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| pitti | Good morning | 03:55 |
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| smartboyhw | Can someone please upload https://launchpad.net/bugs/1228635 and https://launchpad.net/bugs/1228657 (final fixes for Ubuntu Studio before Beta 2) | 04:11 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1228635 in ubuntustudio-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Background for screen 1 is different from screen 0" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 04:11 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1228657 in ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme (Ubuntu) "Lightdm has the wrong backdrop, it is from 13.04" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 04:11 |
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| smartboyhw | dholbach, heyas, you love sponsoring uploads I know, care to deal with Bug 1228657 and Bug 1228635? | 06:58 |
| ubottu | bug 1228657 in ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme (Ubuntu) "Lightdm has the wrong backdrop, it is from 13.04" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1228657 | 06:58 |
| ubottu | bug 1228635 in ubuntustudio-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Background for screen 1 is different from screen 0" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1228635 | 06:58 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:58 |
| dholbach | hi smartboyhw | 06:58 |
| pitti | hey dholbach | 06:58 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach, good afternoon! | 06:58 |
| dholbach | smartboyhw, one thing at a time - I just started work and will need to go through a bunch of mails first - if you subscribed 'ubuntu-sponsors' it should be in the sponsoring queue though | 06:59 |
| dholbach | hi pitti | 06:59 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach, sure | 06:59 |
| smartboyhw | Hmm, I didn't realize that Len didn't subscribe | 06:59 |
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| pitti | hey smb, wie gehts? made it back in one piece? | 07:07 |
| smb | pitti, Yeah and with less incidents than the other way round. You seemed to have more "fun". Only my sunglasses did not make it with me. Ok, I had to get new ones anyway sooner or later. | 07:08 |
| pitti | smb: forgot them in the hotel, or did they look too suspicious during security check? :-) | 07:09 |
| smb | pitti, Nah, just had them stashed externally on my backpack and somewhere they must have escaped | 07:10 |
| smb | Not that anybody could use then... well except that someone has -10 on both eyes | 07:12 |
| smb | pitti, Did you get delayed a lot by that "obstacle" on the tracks? | 07:14 |
| pitti | smb: not that much any more, I was home around 13:00 | 07:15 |
| smb | Ah, not too bad indeed, I just got back one hour earlier | 07:15 |
| smb | Then made my two crosses and crashed | 07:16 |
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| cff | How can I install GDB 4.6.1 in Ubuntu 13.04 ? | 08:19 |
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| cff | err | 08:19 |
| cff | GDB 7.6.1 | 08:19 |
| cff | The repos don't have it : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/test?field.series_filter=raring | 08:19 |
| infinity | cff: Is there a reason 7.6 isn't good enough for you? | 08:22 |
| cff | infinity: the package in the repos reports version 7.5.91.20130417-cvs-ubuntu | 08:23 |
| cff | infinity: although the package seems to be labeled with gdb 7.6 | 08:23 |
| infinity | cff: Sure, it's a pre-release right before 7.6 shipped. | 08:23 |
| infinity | cff: Again, is there something fundamentally wrong with that, or are we just suffering versionitis? | 08:24 |
| infinity | cff: Anyhow, as a general rule, we don't update upstream versions in stable releases. That's what makes them stable releases. | 08:24 |
| cff | KDevelop reports all my breakpoints as "Your debugger is too old" | 08:24 |
| infinity | I'd argue that's a bug in kdevelop that someone should fix, then. | 08:24 |
| infinity | Ubuntu's version, or your own build? | 08:25 |
| infinity | Anyhow, if the Ubuntu kdevelop fails to work with the Ubuntu gdb, I'd suggest filing a bug at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevelop/+filebug | 08:26 |
| infinity | If it's an upstream/PPA/who-knows-what build of kdevelop, you're likely on your own, or you might want to sort out how to build a new gdb, or try installing the "real" 7.6 from saucy on raring and see if that's good enough. | 08:27 |
| infinity | cff: ^ | 08:27 |
| cff | infinity: okay, thanks for the information | 08:28 |
| JackYu | infinity, hi, would you please review the binary NEW of fcitx-qimpanel? | 08:35 |
| JackYu | infinity, done just now:), thanks. | 08:36 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach, you finished through the mails? :P | 08:37 |
| diwic | @pilot in | 08:43 |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 13.10 Beta 1 released | Archive: Open, FF | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of lucid -> raring | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: diwic | ||
| dholbach | smartboyhw, there are lots of other folks who have upload rights | 08:56 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach, sure, but the Beta 2 block is dropping:( (It is of course OK to be uploaded after the block, but) | 08:57 |
| dholbach | smartboyhw, understood, but don't block on me | 09:00 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach, sure | 09:00 |
| smartboyhw | diwic, since you are on patch pilot duty, look at Bug 1228635 and Bug 1228657 please:) I want that be uploaded so we can respin images. | 09:03 |
| ubottu | bug 1228635 in ubuntustudio-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Background for screen 1 is different from screen 0" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1228635 | 09:03 |
| ubottu | bug 1228657 in ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme (Ubuntu) "Lightdm has the wrong backdrop, it is from 13.04" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1228657 | 09:03 |
| smartboyhw | (For Beta 2 effectively) | 09:03 |
| diwic | smartboyhw, thanks, I saw those, but I don't have upload rights unfortunately | 09:08 |
| diwic | smartboyhw, (except for pulseaudio) | 09:08 |
| smartboyhw | -.- | 09:09 |
| smartboyhw | What the.... | 09:09 |
| diwic | smartboyhw, ask dholbach why he thinks I should be a patch pilot anyway, to me it does not really make sense, but... | 09:09 |
| === cjwatson changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 13.10 Beta 1 released | Archive: beta freeze, FF | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of lucid -> raring | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: diwic | ||
| smartboyhw | LOL | 09:09 |
| diwic | oops, there goes the beta freeze | 09:09 |
| sladen | there /arrives/ the beta freeze | 09:10 |
| diwic | sladen, yeah, that's a better way to put it | 09:10 |
| Laney | The idea of being a patch pilot is to help things along, not necessarily to upload them | 09:17 |
| Laney | So you might for example review these uploads and see if they look OK to you, which will make it easier for someone who can to sponsor it | 09:17 |
| Laney | Or if you know there is a developer with expertise in this area you could ask them to take a look | 09:17 |
| diwic | Laney, dholbach, well, for me I feel that the actual upload is what most items actually need help with | 09:19 |
| diwic | reviewing is already done | 09:20 |
| dholbach | the actual upload is what takes the least amount of work | 09:20 |
| dholbach | and I for one would completely trust your judgement if said: "I looked at X, Y and Z - can you please upload/sync them?" | 09:20 |
| diwic | Laney, dholbach how about that a person with upload should always accompany somebody without, would that make sense? | 09:21 |
| diwic | then I'd at least know who to ask for upload | 09:21 |
| dholbach | you're a great engineer, you've worked in Ubuntu and with Debian and Upstream for ages now and you know what you're talking about | 09:21 |
| dholbach | diwic, if you're suggesting one-on-one mentoring then we tried that for quite a while and it didn't scale very well :-/ | 09:22 |
| diwic | dholbach, no, not at all - I'm suggesting that when patch pilot schedule is set up, one should always work in pairs where at least one has upload rights | 09:22 |
| dholbach | ah ok | 09:23 |
| dholbach | if you have a look at https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=6k1e5rq45m1bdqq0n1ge3oqaok@group.calendar.google.com&gsessionid=OK - there's always 2 or 3 patch pilots at the same day | 09:23 |
| dholbach | so that might be one option | 09:23 |
| dholbach | but you could also just try to ask in here for somebody who can sponsor/sync once you reviewed something | 09:24 |
| smartboyhw | But uptimes can be different . | 09:24 |
| smartboyhw | Like, one patch pilot comes up on duty at 12:00 UTC - 16:00 UTC and the another comes up 16:30 UTC - 20:30 UTC | 09:24 |
| diwic | dholbach, it would feel better if there was a designated uploader rather than just "hey can somebody in here upload" | 09:24 |
| diwic | dholbach, and also I feel like people expect a patch pilot to have upload rights, like smartboyhw just did | 09:25 |
| dholbach | smartboyhw, I just set up this schedule as a reminder for everyone - they are free to move things around as it works best for them - I wouldn't like to specify times for everybody (sometimes people work from different timezones or need to get some other work out of the way first, etc.) | 09:25 |
| * smartboyhw does, actually | 09:25 | |
| dholbach | smartboyhw, well, you'd still need somebody to review and test-build your suggested changes | 09:26 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach, what I expect from a patch pilot is review + test-build + upload (in my point of view) | 09:26 |
| dholbach | sure, "it's uploaded" is what everybody's after, but that's just the "end product" of a proper review including reading the changes, test-building them, checking if they should better go upstream first, if all the processes are followed, etc. | 09:27 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach, maybe we make it like us: diwic reviews and you upload? | 09:27 |
| dholbach | smartboyhw, and that's all documented here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/CodeReviews | 09:27 |
| smartboyhw | :P | 09:27 |
| smartboyhw | (Since you said that upload takes the least time) | 09:27 |
| dholbach | smartboyhw, can you please stop that? I understood your nudge the first time you asked me | 09:28 |
| dholbach | smartboyhw, I have a couple of other things I need to get out of the way first | 09:28 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach, sure.... | 09:28 |
| * diwic goes for lunch, will continue piloting after lunch | 09:36 | |
| diwic | @pilot out | 09:36 |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 13.10 Beta 1 released | Archive: beta freeze, FF | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of lucid -> raring | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: | ||
| mpt | mvo, hi! What do you think of the patch that just got attached to bug 617397? | 09:48 |
| ubottu | bug 617397 in software-center (Ubuntu) ""Fonts" department is empty on new Ubuntu installation" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/617397 | 09:48 |
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| slickymaster | good morning all | 10:05 |
| mvo | mpt: hello! this patch should be fine | 10:10 |
| mpt | cool | 10:10 |
| mvo | mpt: updated to include a additinal piece of information how it could be improved | 10:32 |
| mpt | Thanks mvo! | 10:32 |
| dholbach | smartboyhw, uploaded | 10:43 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach, MANY THANKS! | 10:43 |
| * smartboyhw hugs dholbach with tears:) | 10:43 | |
| dholbach | anytime | 10:43 |
| dholbach | haha | 10:43 |
| dholbach | it's all good | 10:43 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach, sorry for being rude:P | 10:43 |
| dholbach | no, it's fine - I could see that you just wanted to make sure those fixes go in, you just didn't seem to believe them when I said "yeah, later" :) | 10:44 |
| diwic | @pilot in | 11:05 |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 13.10 Beta 1 released | Archive: beta freeze, FF | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of lucid -> raring | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: diwic | ||
| doko | cjwatson, apw: who should subscribe to this package? lp: #1196958 | 11:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1196958 in libmnl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libmnl (b-d of libnetfilter-conntrack)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1196958 | 11:08 |
| doko | foundations or kernel? | 11:09 |
| cjwatson | doko: neither seems to be subscribed to libnetfilter-conntrack; what's the first thing in the rdep chain with a useful subscriber? | 11:24 |
| doko | cjwatson, ahh, dnsmasq and squid3, so probably server team | 11:26 |
| doko | jamespage, ^^^ | 11:26 |
| apw | seems like you have things under control | 11:37 |
| doko | apw, but while you are here ... any news on running the trinity tests? | 11:38 |
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| jamespage | doko, done | 11:54 |
| doko | jamespage, thanks, promoted | 11:56 |
| jamespage | doko, thanks | 11:57 |
| doko | TheMuso, ping on #1196967 | 12:15 |
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| OrokuSaki | I have this bug.. and I don't know what to do.. it involves delta max and a touchscreen. swipes get mistaken for double touches on certain boots.. like 1 out of 5.. put the ts_srv.c in debug mode, everything seems fine with it.. | 12:55 |
| OrokuSaki | maybe its udev.. hmmm | 12:56 |
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| diwic | dholbach, so, I've done some work on bug 1155575 and submitted a MP. You don't have to upload anything, I'll prefer to wait for the review for a few days first | 13:42 |
| ubottu | bug 1155575 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Rhythmbox not reading 'year' tag" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1155575 | 13:42 |
| diwic | @pilot out | 13:42 |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 13.10 Beta 1 released | Archive: beta freeze, FF | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of lucid -> raring | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: | ||
| dholbach | diwic, gotcha | 13:42 |
| diwic | (and the two other bugs I worked on turned out to be already fixed) | 13:44 |
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| OrokuSaki | How can I test my graphics acceleration settings on my gpu? To detect what is working? vainfo? | 13:59 |
| OrokuSaki | Sorry to bug you guys | 13:59 |
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| pitti | OrokuSaki: glxinfo might be a good start | 14:32 |
| geser | OrokuSaki: "/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p" might be helpful too | 14:39 |
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| zul | mterry: wsme should be good now | 15:33 |
| mterry | zul, wsme? | 15:34 |
| zul | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-wsme/+bug/1207030 | 15:34 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1207030 in python-wsme (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-wsme" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 15:34 |
| mterry | zul, why not run the python3 tests too? | 15:42 |
| zul | mterry: dang | 15:42 |
| mterry | zul, does "setup.py test" do anything? Or do we need to run each test manually? | 15:43 |
| mterry | zul, does "setup.py test" do anything? Or do we need to run each test manually? | 15:52 |
| zul | mterry: it doesnt do anything it looks like the other ones need turbogears installed | 15:52 |
| zul | and there doesnt look like there is a python3 package for flask | 15:53 |
| mterry | zul, turbogears isn't even in the archive anymore.... | 15:56 |
| zul | exactly | 15:56 |
| mterry | zul, approved, thanks! | 15:59 |
| zul | mterry: cool | 15:59 |
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| slickymaster | \quit | 17:14 |
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| didrocks | jasoncwarner: slangasek: barry: just update the request on the spreadsheet for getting download manager on track for landing | 17:35 |
| slangasek | didrocks: sorry, do you mean that you have just updated it? | 17:36 |
| didrocks | slangasek: I don't have all context but it was re: 19:29:42 jasoncwarner | didrocks slangasek says the download service should land tomorrow. can you get with him and barry etc to know what we would need to do to update the updater? | 17:36 |
| slangasek | didrocks: ok, so this is a reminder to us to update the spreadsheet? | 17:37 |
| barry | didrocks: i'm told the updated d/l service with everything i need should land tomorrow. if so, i'm hoping to finish my branch by tomorrow too | 17:37 |
| didrocks | slangasek: right, as an answer to "what's needed" | 17:38 |
| slangasek | didrocks: ok. fyi I don't have edit rights on the spreadsheet | 17:38 |
| didrocks | asac: I'm fixing that ^ | 17:39 |
| asac | didrocks: if you can thats good | 17:39 |
| didrocks | slangasek: should be good now | 17:39 |
| asac | thx | 17:39 |
| lamont | the default ipv6-enabled config is both a good and a bad thing | 17:39 |
| lamont | slangasek: who is our favorite ipv6 maven these days? | 17:40 |
| slangasek | lamont: stgraber, who's off today | 17:40 |
| slangasek | lamont: but there are others about who have some experience :) | 17:40 |
| lamont | it would seem that the nifty "too many unreachable, advertised NS hosts causes intermittent resolution falures" bug | 17:41 |
| lamont | seems to show up well if you have BIND running on a host that has no ipv6 connectivity | 17:41 |
| slangasek | didrocks: ok, added at the bottom of the first sheet. but, what are these unlabelled columns that are filled out? is there more information I should be providing? | 17:42 |
| lamont | slangasek: specifically, see the output of dig ns salesforce.com | 17:42 |
| didrocks | slangasek: it's if questions arisent | 17:42 |
| slangasek | didrocks: ok | 17:42 |
| didrocks | slangasek: you should have added to the second list I think, but that's fine anyway | 17:42 |
| slangasek | didrocks: I understood the second page to be for quick'n'easy bugfixes... this is not that | 17:43 |
| slangasek | lamont: erm? but each of those nameservers has both an A and a AAAA record | 17:44 |
| didrocks | slangasek: no, all request on second normally | 17:45 |
| didrocks | then, we move it to the first one | 17:45 |
| didrocks | I'll ack something to get it cleaner I guess | 17:45 |
| slangasek | lamont: so this doesn't seem to be something you need an IPv6 expert for, you just need someone to fix a bug in the bind code ;) | 17:45 |
| lamont | slangasek: yeah - I'm not sure whether it's doing the RTT weighting on IP or host, tbf | 17:45 |
| slangasek | didrocks: ah, that's not what I took away from that email | 17:45 |
| lamont | slangasek: yeah | 17:45 |
| didrocks | slangasek: that's my understanding of it, but maybe I'm really wrong, I didn't design this process ;) | 17:45 |
| lamont | slangasek: specifically, when there are multiple unreachable hosts, the unreachables tend to clump together and make life suck when they all win together | 17:46 |
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| alberts | Is there anyone who is familiar with unity-greeter? With time to review merge proposals attached to this bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-greeter/+bug/1201127 | 17:57 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1201127 in Unity Greeter "support logging in on any screen when using separate x screens" [Medium,Triaged] | 17:57 |
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| shadeslayer | pitti: ping | 18:50 |
| shadeslayer | since you last uploaded automake 1.13, it kind of breaks virtuoso-opensource because of a shell script test-driver not being available | 18:51 |
| shadeslayer | I've worked around the issue by symlinking /usr/share/automake-1.13/test-driver to where autotools try to find the file | 18:52 |
| shadeslayer | is that an appropriate solution? | 18:52 |
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| barry | #py-dev | 19:29 |
| mterry | pitti, what creates the /run/user/$UID directories when you log in? | 20:20 |
| slangasek | mterry: logind | 20:21 |
| mterry | slangasek, ah thanks. hm | 20:21 |
| slangasek | mterry: (triggered via pam_systemd.so in /etc/pam.d/common-session) | 20:22 |
| cjwatson | shadeslayer: virtuoso-opensource probably isn't using automake -f | 20:31 |
| cjwatson | shadeslayer: TBH, I've had consistently bad experiences with cdbs' auto-update rules; you might be best served by migrating to dh-autoreconf (which includes cdbs integration) | 20:32 |
| cjwatson | basically delete DEB_AUTO_UPDATE_* and include wherever it is that autoreconf.mk lives | 20:32 |
| cjwatson | and build-dep on dh-autoreconf | 20:33 |
| cjwatson | doko,wookey: Debian's infrastructure is now coping with :any in both Build-Depends and Depends, so it should be fine to merge such things; the caveat for Depends is that wheezy's apt makes the wrong decisions, so if you use :any in runtime Depends the current consensus appears to be that you need to make sure that there's also a version relationship forcing upgrade to the :any-supporting version, to avoid wheezy->jessie ... | 21:08 |
| cjwatson | ... upgrade hilarity | 21:08 |
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| wookey | cjwatson: excellent | 23:54 |
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