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| ppisati | moin | 06:24 |
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| smb | ppisati, morning | 07:15 |
| ppisati | smb: ciao | 07:15 |
| * ppisati goes for the monday morning dist-upgrade... | 07:21 | |
| * smb waits to hear ppisati 's level of cursing | 07:23 | |
| ppisati | can't be, just 267pkgs to upgrade, what could go wrong? :) | 07:23 |
| smb | Not so much what *could* but what *will* :) | 07:28 |
| * apw wonders if ppisati survived | 07:51 | |
| apw | welcome back smb | 07:51 |
| smb | apw, Morning | 07:51 |
| apw | morning | 07:52 |
| ppisati | yep, i'm alive | 08:03 |
| ppisati | from the album "Imaginations from the Other Side", Blind Guardian | 08:04 |
| apw | ppisati, :) | 08:08 |
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| ppisati | brb | 09:03 |
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| snadge | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1217196 | 11:16 |
| snadge | this bug has been assigned to gnome-shell, but the original submitter claims the problem appeared with a kernel update | 11:17 |
| snadge | i just happen to be having the same problem, ie.. i seem to have a setup which can reproduce the above issue | 11:18 |
| snadge | what i want to try to do is downgrade to an older saucy kernel, to see if the problem goes away | 11:19 |
| apw | snadge, sounds worth testing indeed | 11:20 |
| snadge | theres no real reason that contrl-alt-t shouldn't open a terminal in metacity.. it does in unity.. i assumed it was a change in something relating to that | 11:20 |
| snadge | but i've noticed that sometimes my keypresses arn't being registered.. particularly space | 11:21 |
| snadge | i just assumed my keyboard was becoming faulty / less responsive | 11:21 |
| apw | it seems highly unlikely that input handling is completely borked and noone has noticed, as kernel side that is completely orthoganal to the upper windowing system | 11:21 |
| apw | ie it work be broke for everyone using any windowing at all, and the bug implies that downgrading from gnome-shell has fixed it for the reported no ? | 11:22 |
| snadge | im using gnome in fallback mode with metacity.. im assuming the bug is related | 11:23 |
| snadge | it started happening after an update a few weeks to a month ago | 11:23 |
| apw | snadge, hard to say, but the test is easy to confirm if it is the kernel, boot an older kernel | 11:23 |
| apw | and if it goes away there is a relationship, it could still not be a bug in the kernel of course, but indicative | 11:23 |
| snadge | where can i find the older saucy kernels? | 11:27 |
| apw | snadge, well you should first check if you have them in your /boot already as you can have more than one kernel installed at the same time anyhow | 11:29 |
| snadge | yeah i've cleaned most of them out | 11:29 |
| apw | snadge, otherwise they are in the launchpad librarian which has everything ever published: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+publishinghistory | 11:29 |
| apw | that link has all the versions for the linunx package | 11:30 |
| apw | look for lines for 'Saucy' 'release' | 11:30 |
| snadge | the version i want has been deleted | 11:32 |
| apw | it being 'deleted' just means it is not in the archive any more, because it was no longer referenced by a live archive pocket | 11:33 |
| apw | the link on the rigth still has the launchpad librarian copies | 11:33 |
| snadge | yeah im looking at that now.. udeb files and lots of module files.. what a headache | 11:33 |
| snadge | this is new to me | 11:34 |
| snadge | i have to download all of them ? | 11:34 |
| apw | you can ignore _all_ .udebs | 11:34 |
| apw | you need just the common headers (an _all package) and the _<arch>.debs you need for your architecture and flavour | 11:34 |
| snadge | ok im going to try 3.9.0-7 | 11:40 |
| snadge | ok that one just freezes and wont input anything | 11:54 |
| snadge | have to hard reset it | 11:54 |
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| snadge | ok so if i dont install linux-image-extra.. my pc crashes ;) | 12:49 |
| apw | snadge, heh that is half of the kernel after all | 13:52 |
| snadge | metacity shortcut problem doesnt appear to be kernel related anyway | 13:56 |
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| apw | snadge, good to know | 15:03 |
| apw | kamal, i am assuming you are going to be applying your own patch for kteam-toosl | 15:03 |
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| kdub | so, trying to compile saucy kernel for mako... complains that it can't find prebuilts/gcc/linux-x86/arm/arm-eabi-4.6/bin/arm-eabi-gcc-4.7 | 16:08 |
| kdub | so i probably have to install the toolchain there? do most people just symlink to a toolchain or something? | 16:08 |
| ogra_ | rtg, ^^^ can you help kdub a bit ? they are trying to get kernel patches in for Mir | 16:12 |
| ogra_ | or apw | 16:12 |
| rtg | kdub, I think I was cross-compiling that kernel in Raring. lemme check | 16:13 |
| kdub | yes, i'm at the point where i'm waiting on a fence from the sync driver forever, want to dig a bit into what is going on | 16:13 |
| kdub | thangs rtg | 16:13 |
| apw | yeah i thought you needed the appropriate cross compiler in your chroot | 16:14 |
| rtg | yep, requires gcc-4.7-arm-linux-gnueabi in Raring | 16:15 |
| apw | i think we installed these two: gcc-4.7-arm-linux-gnueabihf g++-4.7-arm-linux-gnueabihf | 16:15 |
| rtg | kdub, ^ | 16:15 |
| apw | or something didn't we ? | 16:15 |
| rtg | apw, right, gcc-4.7-arm-linux-gnueabihf | 16:16 |
| rtg | I think that gets everything you need | 16:16 |
| kdub | okay, giving it a try | 16:16 |
| apw | i think the one without hf gives you the el compilers, i _think_ | 16:17 |
| rtg | kdub, echo "dpkg-buildpackage -d -B -aarmhf -us -uc"|schroot -c raring-amd64 | 16:17 |
| apw | but install the whole damn lot :) | 16:17 |
| kamal | apw, yes I'll apply the kteam-tools patch -- if I can get it past the whitespace police! ;-) thanks for the ack, man. | 16:17 |
| * apw looks at kamal sideways ... | 16:17 | |
| kamal | but if you look at me sideways, then you'll see that my tabs and spaces don't line up! | 16:18 |
| apw | heh indeed | 16:18 |
| rtg | apw, impertinent pup today, isn't he ? | 16:18 |
| apw | always, rtg, always | 16:18 |
| apw | kdub, or if you have a specific patch you want built we might be able to build it for you | 16:19 |
| apw | depending on how desperate timewise you are | 16:19 |
| * ogra_ guesses more desparate than we all can imagine | 16:19 | |
| kdub | eh, i don't have a specific patch, just trying to get to the root of the problem still | 16:20 |
| kdub | there's a moderately big delta between what qcom's current drivers put out and cm-10.1 kernel | 16:21 |
| kdub | so i'll probably have to come up with some patch (once I understand a bit more) that fixes things | 16:21 |
| apw | good job we have so long before the release | 16:21 |
| ogra_ | apw, touch works a lot different QA wise | 16:22 |
| ogra_ | we dont have freezes and milestones | 16:22 |
| ogra_ | every daily image we release is handled like a milstone instead | 16:23 |
| rtg | cking, have you got a bit to have a look at CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL_ALL as well ? | 16:31 |
| cking | rtg, yep, I can spin a kernel and test that tomorrow morning | 16:32 |
| rtg | cking, IIRC that was the config option that was giving us the most problems | 16:32 |
| cking | rtg, yep, I think I recall that too | 16:33 |
| kdub | let me back up a bit... the way i'm used to building kernels for android is in the android source tree, the ubuntu touch kernels aren't built like that though, right? | 16:33 |
| rtg | kdub, nope, they are debian packaged | 16:34 |
| kdub | ah :) i'll pursue that route then | 16:35 |
| apw | rtg, when you considering this nwe upload, for after thursday ? | 16:36 |
| apw | rtg, i want to switch out some hyperv bits for the next one | 16:37 |
| rtg | apw, dunno, anytime its convenient for you | 16:38 |
| apw | rtg, well we are fozded now through 'final beta' anyhow, so i'll get those patches sorted today | 16:38 |
| apw | frozded | 16:38 |
| rtg | apw, frozded -> frozen ? | 16:39 |
| apw | yeah, past-made-up-participle of freeze | 16:39 |
| apw | as on erm 9pm my time today, except it seems to have happened already | 16:39 |
| apw | as of | 16:39 |
| rtg | apw, k-freeze isn't until next week | 16:40 |
| apw | rtg, indeed, but we are in archive freeze now so anything you upload won't be getting out of -proposed till friday | 16:40 |
| rtg | apw, grumble. so much for development velocity. | 16:41 |
| apw | yeah we can upload, but we won't get any images, but i'll get my patches switched round next | 16:41 |
| apw | so i won't be holding u up | 16:41 |
| apw | rtg, ok those patches slammed in | 16:44 |
| ppisati | it seems there's a new embedded linux distro for set top box&c: | 17:08 |
| ppisati | http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/ | 17:08 |
| apw | ppisati, keep us informed as you find out more, i assume it will be linux under the hood after all the owrk they have done with us | 17:11 |
| ppisati | apw: yes, it's linux | 17:11 |
| ppisati | apw: "SteamOS combines the rock-solid architecture of Linux with a gaming experience built for the big screen." | 17:12 |
| * ppisati wonders on top of which distro they built this thing | 17:12 | |
| apw | ppisati, yeah i wonder indeed | 17:16 |
| * ogra_ bets its another ubuntu-core breed | 17:27 | |
| ogra_ | like the OS in the tesla and in the google cars | 17:27 |
| manjo | rtg, yeah I am not in favor of disabling it wholesale | 17:43 |
| manjo | rtg, but we need to turn off CONFIG_HVC_DCC coz that causes hangs as well ... | 17:44 |
| manjo | ppisati, ^ is cced on that discussion | 17:44 |
| rtg | manjo, lets run all those changes through ppisati | 17:44 |
| manjo | yep ack | 17:44 |
| manjo | he is cced on all those conversations | 17:44 |
| ppisati | manjo: ??? | 17:47 |
| ppisati | manjo: email subj? | 17:47 |
| manjo | ppisati, email galore for you :) | 17:47 |
| rtg | ppisati, "Disable broken CPU offloading armhf" | 17:47 |
| manjo | ppisati, sub gotomeeting | 17:47 |
| manjo | and sub what rtg just mentioned | 17:48 |
| manjo | so 2 issues | 17:48 |
| manjo | ppisati, would you like to listen in on those calls ? I know you have better things to do ... so your call on that | 17:49 |
| manjo | ppisati, todays call starts in 15mts | 17:49 |
| manjo | ppisati, tomorrow onwards calls at 10:30cst | 17:49 |
| rtg | manjo, prolly ought to take this to #hwe | 17:50 |
| manjo | yeah | 17:50 |
| ppisati | rtg: i never received that email, let me grep my inbox | 17:50 |
| manjo | ppetraki, switching channels | 17:51 |
| manjo | ppisati, ^ oops | 17:51 |
| manjo | too many nics with pp | 17:51 |
| manjo | ppisati, join hwe | 17:51 |
| ppisati | manjo: i'm already there | 17:52 |
| ppisati | manjo: ah no | 17:52 |
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| ppisati | manjo: i'm on hyperscale | 17:52 |
| kdub | rtg, for building that arm kernel, what variant should debootstrap be? buildd isn't working for some reason | 18:56 |
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| apw | kdub, you need to install the kernel build-depends in there obviously, but i assume you have done that | 19:02 |
| manjo | rtg, #hwe | 19:04 |
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| kdub | apw, got the build started... had to do 'fakeroot debian/rules clean' first | 19:47 |
| phillw | jsalisbury: ping | 21:12 |
| * rtg -> EOD | 21:49 | |
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