| maclin | Is anyone nearby can help to confirm the problem of qatracker rebuilding? I request a rebuild of UbuntuKylin on qatracker yesterday, But it has keep rebuilding status for 14+ hours and I can't cancel the rebuild now. | 01:23 |
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| ScottK | debfx: It's technically open, but if it's in Debian, I don't mind doing a sync, just file an FFe bug for the record. | 02:29 |
| infinity | slangasek: New fakeroot in sid has a patch from you. Did you want to sync that? | 02:57 |
| slangasek | infinity: that patch is nothing urgent. setpriority() no longer causes problems for upstart builds. | 03:14 |
| ScottK | infinity: If you have a spare tuit, would you please take a gander at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lesstif2/+bug/1222747/comments/29 - My brain is far to fuzzy to trust ATM. | 03:15 |
| maclin | infinity, hi | 03:44 |
| infinity | ScottK: Looked at and commented. | 04:09 |
| ScottK | infinity: Thanks. | 04:10 |
| cjwatson | maclin: The i386 livefs builder has been down all weekend and requires physical attention to bring it back up. It's not specific to UbuntuKylin. | 08:10 |
| cjwatson | (Replying in two places since you asked in two places. Best not to do that really.) | 08:10 |
| JackYu | cjwatson, :). | 08:12 |
| maclin | cjwatson, thanks | 08:15 |
| JackYu | cjwatson, hi, would you help to review the FFe request at bug #1227197? | 08:19 |
| cjwatson | I have a lot to do this morning, sorry | 08:21 |
| JackYu | ok:( | 08:21 |
| attente | hello, is there anyone i can talk to about this FFe? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-greeter/+bug/1228207 | 08:29 |
| Laney | I'll look at the list of FFes later on | 08:31 |
| cjwatson | Laney: Wanna set up a migration block for final beta? | 08:46 |
| Laney | cjwatson: oh, yes, OK | 08:47 |
| Laney | give me a sec and I'll pastebin the list the script gives for you to review | 08:47 |
| smartboyhw | Laney, um, we have uploads for Studio here waiting to be uploaded for Final Beta and nobody is sponsoring | 08:47 |
| Laney | Things can be unblocked | 08:48 |
| smartboyhw | Laney, sure, telling you that:) | 08:48 |
| Laney | cjwatson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144679 | 08:50 |
| cjwatson | Didn't moin used to have a copy-page action? | 08:51 |
| Laney | does here | 08:51 |
| cjwatson | Where is it? :) | 08:52 |
| cjwatson | Laney: TBH I'm not sure I can realistically review this. What flavours did you select? | 08:52 |
| Laney | More actions: combo | 08:52 |
| Laney | ?action=CopyPage | 08:52 |
| cjwatson | Laney: Don't see it on help.ubuntu.com/community | 08:52 |
| Laney | oh, help, was on wiki | 08:52 |
| cjwatson | "Unknown action CopyPage" | 08:52 |
| cjwatson | so not supported there I guess | 08:52 |
| Laney | I don't think I have meaningful access to that one | 08:52 |
| cjwatson | Never mind, will just do it the crude way | 08:53 |
| Laney | ['ubuntu-gnome', 'xubuntu', 'lubuntu', 'ubuntukylin', 'kubuntu', 'edubuntu', 'ubuntustudio', 'ubuntu', 'ubuntu-server'] | 08:53 |
| cjwatson | Laney: Seems to be roughly plausible for that, I'd say go ahead | 08:57 |
| Laney | Roger. I just wanted a sanity check that I didn't completely break it in ways that I wasn't seeing. | 08:58 |
| Laney | done | 08:59 |
| * Laney mails -devel | 09:00 | |
| cjwatson | stgraber: Could you prepare a final beta milestone on the ISO tracker? | 09:00 |
| cjwatson | stgraber: Hm, never mind, I think I can | 09:01 |
| Laney | Yeah, any RT member can do | 09:02 |
| cjwatson | The "based on manifest" column seems fairly random - I went for "yes" | 09:02 |
| cjwatson | And hopefully it's still correct to edit ~cdimage/.isotracker.conf | 09:03 |
| Laney | No | 09:04 |
| cjwatson | ? | 09:04 |
| Laney | If you tick the "automtically publish" thing then it copies from daily to the milestone | 09:04 |
| cjwatson | Oh right | 09:04 |
| Laney | I think based on that manifest toggle | 09:04 |
| cjwatson | I'll edit *Process to say that then | 09:04 |
| Laney | good idea | 09:04 |
| cjwatson | Laney: did you mail -devel-announce? | 09:09 |
| === cjwatson changed the topic of #ubuntu-release to: Released: 13.10 Beta 1, 13.04, and 12.04.3 | Archive: beta freeze | Saucy Salamander Release Coordination. Please don't upload things during freezes where you shouldn't, or be prepared to apologise to the release team | we accept payment in cash, check or beer | melior malum quod cognoscis | ||
| Laney | cjwatson: No, just devel | 09:09 |
| Laney | Can bounce if you want | 09:09 |
| cjwatson | please | 09:09 |
| Laney | Also, one more thing that I remember | 09:10 |
| Laney | The manifest http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/series/37/manifest needs to be current for publishing to the milestone to work | 09:10 |
| Laney | bounced | 09:11 |
| cjwatson | OK, so we should re-enable netboot, Ubuntu desktop {amd64,amd64+mac,armhf+omap4,i386}, core, and Ubuntu server? | 09:12 |
| cjwatson | I've done that, shout if wrong | 09:12 |
| cjwatson | debian-cd/CONF.sh tweaked | 09:14 |
| cjwatson | infinity: I've done most of the technical actions necessary up to this point, I think. I haven't done anything like contacting marketing for release notes, checking with QA/certification, etc. | 09:15 |
| cjwatson | seeing as I'm not actually signed up for beta ;-) | 09:16 |
| forestpiskie | sorry to bother you busy chaps - do I need to deal with this http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/builds to get beta2 to show up on the tracker for us? | 09:24 |
| * forestpiskie is new to this :) | 09:24 | |
| Laney | forestpiskie: The next build should show up automatically if you are in http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/series/37/manifest | 09:25 |
| forestpiskie | yep - we are - just wanted to check, thanks | 09:26 |
| Laney | Assuming another one happens (don't know if a full respin will take place) - otherwise the current daily can be copied over | 09:26 |
| elfy | Laney: I'll just let it chunter away and check later then - thanks | 09:32 |
| Laney | mmk | 09:33 |
| Laney | did my bounce to u-d-a work? | 09:57 |
| cjwatson | yes, just approved now | 10:00 |
| Laney | ah, k, didn't get a moderation mail | 10:00 |
| === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 | ||
| cjwatson | FYI: Tomorrow morning we hope to be moving some archive jobs to a new machine. Vulnerable services: saucy-proposed -> saucy migration, any content under http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/ | 10:23 |
| cjwatson | Uploads, builds, publication to saucy-proposed and stable releases, and downloads from the archive will be unaffected | 10:23 |
| Laney | yay! | 10:24 |
| cjwatson | Laney: Do you know why unity-scope-click showed up in your block? | 10:25 |
| cjwatson | I don't see it in images | 10:26 |
| Laney | let me see | 10:27 |
| cjwatson | I only see it in ubuntu-touch, which you didn't list | 10:27 |
| cjwatson | didrocks: ^- | 10:27 |
| didrocks | yeah, it's only used and installed on touch | 10:27 |
| Laney | probably a bug, sec | 10:28 |
| asac | ubuntu-touch-session is the same | 10:28 |
| Laney | haha, I forgot to put back the code to consider the flavours | 10:28 |
| cjwatson | Whoops | 10:28 |
| Laney | that block is probably everything seeded on all images | 10:29 |
| didrocks | Laney: how long do you think it will take you? I can help unblocking to get a touch image for now if needed (listing ubuntu-touch-session and unity-scope-click) | 10:29 |
| asac | ok ... could you unblock unity-click-scope and camera-app | 10:29 |
| Laney | two seconds | 10:29 |
| asac | and ubuntu-touch-session? | 10:29 |
| Laney | there's no need to unblock things | 10:29 |
| asac | thanks | 10:29 |
| asac | ah ok | 10:29 |
| didrocks | ok, great that the code is still around | 10:29 |
| didrocks | thanks Laney | 10:29 |
| asac | so this will just move after fixing the bug? | 10:29 |
| cjwatson | Yeah | 10:30 |
| asac | awesome | 10:30 |
| Laney | somehow gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas got onto edubuntu | 10:31 |
| Laney | block should be better now, modulo that and anything else in the same situation | 10:32 |
| Laney | like ubuntu-system-settings | 10:35 |
| Laney | hmm | 10:35 |
| cjwatson | well, I've done the block/unblock delegation for touch as mentioned on ubuntu-release@, so if it's just the odd edge case then they can unblock for themselves | 10:36 |
| Laney | I doubt edubuntu actually want ubuntu-system-settings though | 10:37 |
| Laney | now why did that happen | 10:49 |
| Laney | oh, because of default_milestone | 10:50 |
| smartboyhw | Please unblock ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme and ubuntustudio-default-settings from saucy-proposed. | 10:56 |
| cjwatson | Laney: damn, did I not set it back? | 11:01 |
| Laney | cjwatson: no, but I fixed it | 11:03 |
| Laney | hopefully ... | 11:03 |
| ogra_ | Laney, is slomos comment on the gst-bad bug enough for you or do i need to hunt him down again to actually leave a bug comment ? | 11:04 |
| Laney | ogra_: Don't know, not read it | 11:04 |
| Laney | Let me see | 11:04 |
| ogra_ | :) | 11:04 |
| ogra_ | i just added it, he didnt comment on the bug itself but left a line on IRc | 11:05 |
| Laney | haha | 11:05 |
| Laney | I'm trying to get at whether we'll have fun with the packaging in future | 11:05 |
| ogra_ | i think the long term plan is to give the package its own source too (if thats possible witout forking the whole thing) | 11:06 |
| ogra_ | though thats not 13.10 material | 11:06 |
| Laney | is it? | 11:06 |
| ogra_ | dunno | 11:07 |
| Laney | Not sure upstream would go for that | 11:07 |
| ogra_ | if it can be merged fully upstream then the current approach is fine | 11:07 |
| Laney | nobody has told me they don't think it can be | 11:08 |
| ogra_ | but i think upstream it would have to be a completely new plugin in the end ... i assume whoever wrote the android codec plugin this comes from didnt want to use hybris | 11:08 |
| Laney | see jim's comments there | 11:08 |
| Laney | anyway. Let's do it. | 11:09 |
| ogra_ | ah, right | 11:09 |
| * ogra_ hugs Laney | 11:09 | |
| cjwatson | Laney: thanks, sorry about that | 11:23 |
| Laney | cjwatson: no problem | 11:23 |
| smartboyhw | Laney, saw my unblocking request? :) | 11:24 |
| Laney | yes, so did other RT members; doing other stuff currently | 11:24 |
| smartboyhw | Release Team: BTW, it looks like i386 images are simply not been built (it does build fail according to e-mail sent to our -devel mailing list, but I get no LiveFS build log at people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive) | 11:30 |
| smartboyhw | It started since 20130920 | 11:31 |
| smartboyhw | I'm wondering if it is related to the previous downtime of London Canonical datacentre. | 11:31 |
| smartboyhw | Shouldn't be the reason though | 11:31 |
| === peterm-ubuntu is now known as Peter-lunch | ||
| smartboyhw | It happens to at least us, Kylin. Xubuntu, Lubuntu | 11:32 |
| smartboyhw | Even Ubuntu desktop | 11:33 |
| Laney | The machine went down | 11:33 |
| smartboyhw | uh:( | 11:33 |
| Laney | Being worked on | 11:34 |
| smartboyhw | Laney, thanks | 11:34 |
| ScottK | smartboyhw: Also, already mentioned in this channel about 3 1/2 hours ago. | 11:44 |
| smartboyhw | ScottK, oh, I didn't notice the backlogs about that | 11:45 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: I agree, no i386 logs in sight | 11:47 |
| ScottK | Riddell: the builder is down. | 11:56 |
| Riddell | ScottK: ah hah | 12:28 |
| cjwatson | smartboyhw: Sysadmins have iLO access now, so it's waiting for a prod via that | 12:36 |
| smartboyhw | cjwatson, what's iLO? | 12:39 |
| smartboyhw | -.- | 12:39 |
| cjwatson | remote console | 12:39 |
| smartboyhw | cjwatson, ah great:) | 12:40 |
| === barry` is now known as barry_ | ||
| === barry_ is now known as barry | ||
| cjwatson | The i386 livefs builder is back; I'll do a bunch of builds shortly unless somebody wants to beat me to it | 13:39 |
| knome | infinity, ping me when you've set Beta 2 release notes up for tweaking :) | 13:55 |
| knome | infinity, or ping me and tell me we should do that ourself. :) | 13:56 |
| smartboyhw | s/ourself/ourselves/ :) | 13:57 |
| jhodapp | ScottK, ping | 14:06 |
| Riddell | jhodapp: if it's about kubuntu I can help | 14:06 |
| jhodapp | Riddell, it's about qtmultimedia | 14:06 |
| Riddell | that bundle of joy | 14:07 |
| jhodapp | :) | 14:07 |
| Riddell | jhodapp: what's the question? | 14:07 |
| ogra_ | heh | 14:07 |
| jhodapp | Riddell, we need an approver for this FFe once it hits the NEW queue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1227987 | 14:07 |
| ogra_ | jhodapp, no, you need an approver for the FFe before you upload | 14:07 |
| jhodapp | ok :) | 14:08 |
| smartboyhw | Anyhow, he's asking the correct person:P | 14:08 |
| ogra_ | jhodapp, when it hits the archive you need an approver from the ubuntu-archive team to get it through NEW | 14:08 |
| jhodapp | Riddell, what orga_ said :) | 14:08 |
| jhodapp | ogra_, thanks for the clarification | 14:08 |
| ogra_ | so first of all ubuntu-release approval, then the rest :) | 14:08 |
| jhodapp | ogra_, cool, this part is all new to me | 14:09 |
| ogra_ | yeah, thats all these distro processes .... :) you cant know them yet | 14:09 |
| Riddell | jhodapp: commented I can do New | 14:10 |
| jhodapp | Riddell, awesome...you're able to do that today by chance? | 14:10 |
| Riddell | jhodapp: yeah should be able to but it still needs a FFe | 14:10 |
| * ogra_ hugs Riddell | 14:10 | |
| Riddell | jhodapp: presumably you're in contact with upstream to get it merged? | 14:10 |
| Riddell | jhodapp: are you wanting this in beta 2? | 14:11 |
| jhodapp | Riddell, I'm not in contact yet, but will be heading that way soon...rsalveti might have been talking with someone from upstream though | 14:11 |
| Riddell | jhodapp: who else uses qtmultimedia 5 and might be affected? | 14:11 |
| ogra_ | Riddell, thats all for ubuntu-touch | 14:11 |
| jhodapp | Riddell, yeah, this is a diverted package only for touch | 14:11 |
| ogra_ | Riddell, we dont do beta ... (we do every single image like a milestone for touch) | 14:12 |
| jhodapp | Riddell, sergiusens put the package together if you have questions specific to that | 14:12 |
| Riddell | jhodapp: what does qtmultimedia 5 use now instead of gstreamer? | 14:13 |
| jhodapp | Riddell, still uses gstreamer, just ported to 1.x | 14:14 |
| Riddell | jhodapp: this is quite a major feature to port to 1.0 isn't it? wouldn't you want to be in contact with upstream to ensure you're not duplicating anything? | 14:14 |
| jhodapp | Riddell, but the reason we had to make a diverted package is because it doesn't port the mediacapture nor the camerabin support, which would break things on the desktop if we simply replaced the qtmultimedia package | 14:14 |
| jhodapp | Riddell, the person who started the port was in contact with them and said there wasn't anything available yet for porting to 1.x | 14:15 |
| Riddell | jhodapp: presumably there's no sensible reason to install this except being an ubuntu edge user on a phone/tablet? so it shouldn't get in the way of desktop users | 14:16 |
| ogra_ | Riddell, yeah | 14:16 |
| jhodapp | Riddell, exactly | 14:16 |
| ogra_ | it wont go into desktop | 14:17 |
| jhodapp | correct | 14:17 |
| sergiusens | not for desktop at all | 14:17 |
| jhodapp | Riddell, any other questions we can answer? | 14:20 |
| Riddell | jhodapp: nope, approved! | 14:21 |
| jhodapp | Riddell, excellent, thanks much | 14:21 |
| Riddell | poke me when you need a review, although I'm doing install testing so may not be around for some periods | 14:21 |
| jhodapp | Riddell, ok | 14:21 |
| cjwatson | crontab disabled, kicking off a full round of builds now | 14:28 |
| jhodapp | ogra_, can you push the packages for us now that we have approval? :) | 14:28 |
| ogra_ | yeah, where are the source packages ? | 14:28 |
| jhodapp | sergiusens, ^ | 14:28 |
| jhodapp | ogra_, so when we have bug fixes to these packages, we don't have to go through the same approval process, correct? | 14:29 |
| sergiusens | https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phablet-extras/qtmultimedia-touch | 14:29 |
| sergiusens | ogra_, jhodapp &^^ | 14:29 |
| ogra_ | jhodapp, right, its just for getting it in | 14:29 |
| jhodapp | ogra_, ok excellent | 14:29 |
| tkamppeter | Hi, I have synced pyppd and hplip from Debian to get a security fix into Saucy. The fix is in HPLIP, thepyppd update merely only bumbs the version number, fulfilling a dependency of HPLIP and does not have real changes otherwise. | 14:30 |
| tkamppeter | They two, pyppd and hplip need to be moved into the release now. | 14:30 |
| kgunn | didrocks: ok, i filed an FFe for libmirclient | 14:31 |
| kgunn | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mir/+bug/1229212 | 14:31 |
| didrocks | kgunn: don't assign, please subscribe the release team to it | 14:31 |
| kgunn | didrocks: gah...sorry | 14:31 |
| didrocks | Riddell: Laney: hey, do you have some time to have a look at that one? ^ | 14:31 |
| didrocks | that would be helpful so that we can proceed and get latest Mir for touch | 14:32 |
| didrocks | (it has no real impact for desktop, apart from the rebuilds) | 14:32 |
| kgunn | didrocks: thinking...does mirserver also need one ? for since u-s-c is there....altho its in universe | 14:34 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, hmm, thats just the debian dir | 14:34 |
| didrocks | kgunn: it doesn't impact desktop image as u-s-c isn't installed by default on desktop, the ABI breakage is for Touch, so I would say this will fall in the Touch FFe | 14:35 |
| sergiusens | ogra_, bzr bd -S | 14:35 |
| kgunn | didrocks: ack, agree...but wanted to make sure | 14:35 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, what source tarball does it use ? i dont think we can upload the same upstream source tarball twice | 14:35 |
| cjwatson | You can upload it twice as long as the contents are identical or the name is changed | 14:36 |
| sergiusens | ogra_, it's a different source package | 14:36 |
| ogra_ | cjwatson, ah, thanks | 14:36 |
| sergiusens | ogra_, do I need to change anything then? | 14:37 |
| sergiusens | ogra_, source package gets a name like qtmultimedia-opensource-src-touch_5.1.1+git20130920+5b12abb862.orig.tar.gz | 14:37 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, let me test build ... | 14:37 |
| ogra_ | i guess its alll fine | 14:37 |
| sergiusens | ogra_, takes it's time ;-) | 14:38 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 14:38 |
| sergiusens | ogra_, the latest build is also on ppa:sergiusens/phablet | 14:38 |
| ogra_ | my chromebook is chuggin away :) | 14:38 |
| ogra_ | grrr | 14:39 |
| ogra_ | build-deps | 14:39 |
| Riddell | kgunn: bug is now unassigned? | 14:41 |
| kgunn | Riddell: sorry, shall i reassign it? | 14:42 |
| Riddell | kgunn: doesn't really matter just wondered what it ment | 14:42 |
| kgunn | Riddell: me screwing up :) | 14:42 |
| Riddell | oh you following the "subscribe (do not assign to) the 'ubuntu-release' team. " instruction :) | 14:42 |
| Riddell | kgunn: what are the rdepends? | 14:43 |
| kgunn | Riddell: right...so, shall i just update the bug with "apt-rdepends libmirclient" ? | 14:45 |
| kgunn | making sure i get the right rdepends | 14:45 |
| Riddell | kgunn: yeah, and note which flavours it affects | 14:46 |
| jhodapp | ogra_, are you working on qtmultimedia right now or in a bit? We also need our gst-plugins-bad-hybris package pushed as well | 14:53 |
| ogra_ | jhodapp, do you know if ricardo comes back today or tomorrow ? | 14:54 |
| jhodapp | ogra_, I thought tomorrow | 14:54 |
| ogra_ | i wanted to leave the plugin part to him | 14:54 |
| ogra_ | hmm | 14:55 |
| ogra_ | then i should probably upload that too, ok | 14:55 |
| kgunn | Riddell: ok updated | 14:55 |
| ogra_ | i'll try to get both done before end of my day | 14:55 |
| jhodapp | ogra_, ok excellent...can you let me know when you've pushed them and I can help verify that everything is good once they land | 14:55 |
| Riddell | kgunn: that's dependencies not rdepends no? | 14:56 |
| ogra_ | jhodapp, indeed | 14:56 |
| jhodapp | ogra_, thanks | 14:56 |
| JackYu | Laney, hi. May I know when will you review the FFe at bug #1227197? It's middle night here:) | 15:04 |
| sergiusens | ogra_, tomorrow | 15:04 |
| kgunn | Riddell: bah...sorry...now its right | 15:07 |
| Riddell | kgunn: which flavours does this affect? | 15:09 |
| kgunn | Riddell: when you say flavours...do you mean desktops ? unity, xubuntu etc ? | 15:10 |
| Riddell | kgunn: yes flavours are ubuntu (unity), edubuntu, ubuntu studio,mythbuntu etc | 15:11 |
| Riddell | those ones might all be affected I don't konw | 15:11 |
| doko | Laney, "Not touching package due to block request by laney" -> libnetfilter-conntrack | 15:18 |
| Laney | see ubuntu-devel-announce | 15:18 |
| kgunn | Riddell: i think the answer is, any flavour using 13.10 | 15:21 |
| cjwatson | Flavours don't *use* 13.10 as such | 15:21 |
| kgunn | cjwatson: i think my conjecture is still accurate right ? | 15:22 |
| cjwatson | And I didn't think all flavours were using Mir? | 15:22 |
| cjwatson | (If nothing else, server is clearly unaffected, but I thought others had opted out of Xmir too) | 15:22 |
| kgunn | cjwatson: there's no dependency on mir per se....in xmir mir sits under x unbeknownst to anyone, but yes...people can choose to fallback to no xmir | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | Is libmirclient2 even on any images right now (other than touch)? seeded-in-ubuntu suggests now | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | *not | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | kgunn: I thought you at least had to have the xserver-xorg-xmir package installed to use it | 15:25 |
| kgunn | cjohnston: libmirclient2 is part of main archive, yes...you do have to have xmir installed( also part of main archive)...but the real trigger is the install of unity-system-compositor | 15:25 |
| cjwatson | Which is not even in Ubuntu desktop images never mind anything else | 15:25 |
| kgunn | cjohnston: unity-system-compositor is in universe | 15:26 |
| cjwatson | I'm cjwatson not cjohnston | 15:26 |
| cjwatson | So therefore this doesn't affect any flavours (other than touch) in their default configurations right now | 15:26 |
| kgunn | cjwatson: woops...sorry cjohnston | 15:26 |
| kgunn | cjwatson: that is technically correct | 15:26 |
| cjwatson | I would recommend you take that interpretation as it makes it easier for you to land your change :-) | 15:27 |
| kgunn | cjwatson: awesome...thank you for the navigation of logic there :) | 15:27 |
| cjwatson | Also FYI xserver-xorg-xmir is in universe, not main | 15:27 |
| kgunn | cjwatson: reallly...so u-s-c install must pull it in ? | 15:28 |
| Riddell | u-s-c? | 15:29 |
| Riddell | software centre? | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | kgunn: Yes | 15:29 |
| kgunn | cjwatson: wow..your right...hadn;t looked.... | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | Riddell: unity-system-compositor | 15:29 |
| Riddell | aah | 15:29 |
| kgunn | Riddell: sorry...u-s-c, unity-system-compositor | 15:29 |
| kgunn | cjwatson: i was under the belief that we had everything but unity-system-compositor in main...thanks for pointing that out | 15:30 |
| cjwatson | It doesn't matter that much; xserver-xorg-xmir is a binary package produced by a source package in main, so it can be moved to main without paperwork once it becomes necessary for something else | 15:31 |
| Riddell | kgunn: where are these touch images that it goes onto? | 15:33 |
| ogra_ | dpkg-source -b gst-plugins-bad1.0-1.1.4 | 15:34 |
| ogra_ | dpkg-source: info: using source format `3.0 (quilt)' | 15:34 |
| ogra_ | dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address | 15:34 |
| ogra_ | GRRR | 15:34 |
| ogra_ | so how do i work around that ? | 15:34 |
| kgunn | Riddell: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/ | 15:34 |
| ogra_ | (an ubuntu maintainer committed with a canonical address) | 15:34 |
| Riddell | kgunn: cleverly hidden under ubuntu-touch-preview/ :) | 15:34 |
| kgunn | we're tricky like that | 15:35 |
| Riddell | ogra_: fix the maintainer line? | 15:36 |
| didrocks | ogra_: DEBEMAIL=foo | 15:36 |
| didrocks | ogra_: if you -k for signing | 15:36 |
| JackYu | cjwatson, can we unblock some packages for UbuntuKylin flavor? | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | Riddell, i dont want to change the changelog :) i just want to sign it :) | 15:37 |
| Riddell | kgunn: so aye if it's in touch only and the touch people are happy with it that's all good | 15:37 |
| cjwatson | ogra_: you don't need to | 15:37 |
| Riddell | ogra_: it's not changelog it's debian/control | 15:37 |
| Riddell | paste in Maintainer: Kubuntu Developers <kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com> | 15:37 |
| Riddell | XSBC-Original- | 15:37 |
| cjwatson | ogra_: just set DEBEMAIL to something that doesn't contain ubuntu when you run debuild | 15:37 |
| Riddell | adapted to your preferred team | 15:37 |
| cjwatson | ogra_: that downgrades the error to a warning | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | oh | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | ! | 15:37 |
| kgunn | Riddell: yeah...they want us to land real bad...hence my showing up here :) | 15:37 |
| kgunn | didrocks: ^ | 15:37 |
| cjwatson | JackYu: sure | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | thats news to me thanks !!!! | 15:37 |
| didrocks | kgunn: saw it, please ping me once all the bumps we talked about are done | 15:38 |
| cjwatson | and Riddell is right, this isn't about what you commit as, it's about the Maintainer field | 15:38 |
| didrocks | kgunn: I'm changing the config | 15:38 |
| didrocks | kgunn: and please merge my branch as well :) | 15:38 |
| didrocks | kgunn: also please, ensure the changelog reference that bug number (as you are doing a merge to bump the version anyway) | 15:39 |
| JackYu | cjwatson, great, please unlock youker-assistant and ubuntukylin-default-settings. | 15:39 |
| cjwatson | Versions? | 15:41 |
| cjwatson | JackYu: ^- | 15:41 |
| cjwatson | BTW, please move away from the model where you have a single preferred contact point - I'm not always around | 15:42 |
| JackYu | cjwatson, ubuntukylin-default-settings 1.0.7 and youker-assistant 0.2.1. The youker-assistant is still waiting for FFe review:) | 15:43 |
| JackYu | cjwatson, got it. | 15:44 |
| cjwatson | I'm not going to unblock something not in the archive yet, sorry | 15:44 |
| cjwatson | Looking at ubuntukylin-default-settings | 15:44 |
| JackYu | ok | 15:44 |
| cjwatson | "* add some package dependencies and delete some packages" - your uploaders really need to be less vague! | 15:45 |
| jhodapp | Riddell, both gst-plugins-bad and qtmultimedia are in the NEW queue and waiting for your approval | 15:45 |
| Riddell | jhodapp: queuebot disagrees :) | 15:45 |
| jhodapp | ogra_, ^ | 15:45 |
| ogra_ | jhodapp, he was to fast for you | 15:45 |
| ogra_ | :) | 15:45 |
| ogra_ | Riddell, coudl we get gst-plugins-bad too ? | 15:45 |
| * ogra_ digs for the FFe | 15:45 | |
| JackYu | cjwatson, happyaron is here:) | 15:46 |
| Riddell | ogra_: waiting for it to appear in new, where's the FFe? | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | bug 1224665 | 15:46 |
| cjwatson | JackYu: The uploader in this case is ShuiLu Pi, who I don't think is happyaron | 15:46 |
| * ogra_ tickles ubotu | 15:46 | |
| cjwatson | JackYu: Also, disabling apport and whoopsie entirely? *Really*? | 15:46 |
| cjwatson | You intentionally want to make sure that UbuntuKylin is left out of any error analysis, so we won't notice if a change regresses something for Chinese speakers? | 15:47 |
| ogra_ | Riddell, thanks for the hint btw, i fixed the maintainer address in the end :) | 15:47 |
| cjwatson | JackYu: And there's a misspelling, "UbuntyKylin" | 15:47 |
| JackYu | cjwaston, yes, I will tell Pi. | 15:47 |
| cjwatson | JackYu: Do you know if it's intentional that depends.txt was entirely removed? | 15:48 |
| JackYu | cjwatson, yes | 15:49 |
| cjwatson | JackYu: And putting random stuff in /etc/environment is not really the best plan - that will be hard to upgrade later | 15:49 |
| cjwatson | JackYu: I'm sorry, I'm not at all happy with this upload and don't really want to unblock it while I have the choice. The random Upstart overrides with no explanation are the worst (I see it also disables avahi-daemon and modemmanager), but really, all of the stuff I just mentioned should be addressed | 15:50 |
| cjwatson | JackYu: Could you pass this on? | 15:50 |
| cjwatson | JackYu: depends.txt> So you don't want e.g. unity-china-music-scope any more? | 15:50 |
| JackYu | cjwatson, OK, let me check your comments and hope we can fix it soon. | 15:50 |
| Riddell | ogra_: I'm away in 10 minutes, upload soon if you want me to New review it | 15:52 |
| ogra_ | Riddell, i uploaded quite a while ago | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | Riddell, didnt get a reciept either yet | 15:53 |
| JackYu | cjwatson, we use recommends.txt instead of depends.txt, since if using depends.txt, removing one package will lead to the fail of default-settings. | 15:53 |
| Riddell | ogra_: something may have gone wrong then | 15:54 |
| cjwatson | JackYu: Ah, right. Mentioning that the removed dependencies were duplicated as Recommends is the sort of thing that should have been mentioned in the changelog. | 15:55 |
| ogra_ | Riddell, oh, indeed, iwont get a reciept mail since rsalveti owns the changelog | 15:55 |
| cjwatson | JackYu: I notice that gnome-tweak-tool and chromium-browser are not in recommends.txt, though. | 15:55 |
| cjwatson | ogra_: Normally the signer is notified too. | 15:55 |
| ogra_ | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/gst-plugins-bad1.0/1.1.4-2ubuntu2 | 15:56 |
| ogra_ | well, its already building | 15:56 |
| JackYu | cjwatson, yes. we don't want to include these two packages. | 15:56 |
| ogra_ | Riddell, we only need you for binary NEW for this one actually | 15:56 |
| cjwatson | JackYu: OK. Again, changelog :-) | 15:56 |
| cjwatson | JackYu: It's not just for me, it's for your users too | 15:56 |
| ogra_ | Riddell, i'll try to find someone else for that then | 15:56 |
| ogra_ | cjwatson, well, i didnt ... i get other ubuntu mail so my mail server seems to be fine | 15:57 |
| JackYu | cjwatson, yes, we should add more changelog for our decision:) | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | could some archive admin let the gst/plugins/bad and qtmultimedia-opensource-src-touch builds out of binary NEW ? | 16:36 |
| jhodapp | Riddell, ^ | 16:40 |
| ogra_ | jhodapp, he said he would be out | 16:41 |
| jhodapp | Riddell, ah missed that message | 16:42 |
| ogra_ | cjwatson, could you perhaps ? | 16:42 |
| slangasek | ogra_: so we have a parallel upload of qtmultimedia-opensource now for touch? | 17:13 |
| ogra_ | slangasek, atm yeah | 17:14 |
| ogra_ | 5.1.1 vs 5.0.x i thinnk | 17:15 |
| slangasek | ah | 17:15 |
| slangasek | did someone already work out how we're going to transition back to the main packages once they bump to 5.1 in t? | 17:15 |
| ogra_ | heh, not sure | 17:15 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, ^^ ? | 17:15 |
| slangasek | the package names all look ok, as far as that goes | 17:16 |
| ogra_ | we had a few reviews from different people | 17:17 |
| ogra_ | and endless tests across the team | 17:17 |
| slangasek | which of those were archive admins? | 17:18 |
| sergiusens | slangasek, ogra_ do we need a test scenario? | 17:18 |
| ogra_ | slangasek, Riddell ... who let it through source NEW as well | 17:18 |
| sergiusens | I can stage one in a PPA and see how it goes | 17:19 |
| ogra_ | sergiusens, nah, i dont think we do | 17:19 |
| ogra_ | we can test from the archive | 17:19 |
| ogra_ | nothing is seeded yet | 17:19 |
| ogra_ | we just need them through NEW | 17:19 |
| ogra_ | so you can pull from the archive actually :) | 17:19 |
| slangasek | ogra_: ack | 17:19 |
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| infinity | Gah, alarm clock fail. | 17:44 |
| ogra_ | slangasek, the gst-plugins-bad one too ? | 17:44 |
| ogra_ | there should be a new binary as well | 17:45 |
| ogra_ | -hybris iirc | 17:45 |
| mdeslaur | Laney: could you unblock pyopenssl in saucy-proposed, please? | 17:45 |
| slangasek | ogra_: hadn't gotten to it yet, doing it now | 17:45 |
| * ogra_ hugs slangasek | 17:46 | |
| ogra_ | jhodapp, ^^^ | 17:46 |
| jhodapp | awesome, thanks slangasek | 17:46 |
| slangasek | ogra_: and gstreamer1.0-hybris is added on i386 in addition to armhf for the goldfish case? | 17:46 |
| ogra_ | slangasek, right, just not amd64 | 17:47 |
| ogra_ | (and ppc) | 17:47 |
| infinity | slangasek / cjwatson: Either of you want to catch me up with reality, since I seem to have entirely missed out on what should have been Monday morning? | 18:20 |
| slangasek | infinity: I think reality has mostly been waiting for you. but we have an i386 livefs builder again, so that's good news | 18:20 |
| slangasek | and the beta freeze is on | 18:21 |
| infinity | s/freeze/block/ | 18:21 |
| infinity | Laney: Thanks for putting the block in. No thanks for it being right before glibc would have migrated. ;) | 18:22 |
| slangasek | I assume we want glibc up to date for beta, however | 18:22 |
| slangasek | have you forced it in yet? | 18:22 |
| infinity | slangasek: I haven't unblocked it, it's not particularly critical. Just a security fix, a testsuite fix (which has already made jenkins happy, so meh), and a compiler swap for arm64. | 18:23 |
| slangasek | yes, but if you want it for release it should go in for beta | 18:24 |
| infinity | slangasek: But if other things are being unblocked and the world's still spinning, there's no harm in taking it either. | 18:24 |
| * infinity unblocks. | 18:24 | |
| Laney | mdeslaur: N | 18:24 |
| slangasek | okie | 18:24 |
| Laney | Not here, ask someone else | 18:24 |
| Laney | I want to set up a role account for milestone blocks so that I don't get all the pings. :P | 18:24 |
| mdeslaur | Laney: ok, thanks | 18:25 |
| mdeslaur | infinity: could you please unblock the pyopenssl packages in saucy-proposed? | 18:25 |
| infinity | mdeslaur: I can indeed. | 18:25 |
| mdeslaur | infinity: thanks | 18:25 |
| infinity | Laney: I can steal your block so I get the pings instead, if you prefer. But yeah, a role account would do nicely. | 18:25 |
| infinity | slangasek: Per our previous discussion on the topic, I'm going to drop the +omap4 images from the beta. Not sure if I'll get to the archive surgery to actually remove all the bits too, since there's some fallout from dropping the kernel (ie: d-i needs it torn out, etc), but no point in testing an image we intend to drop in a week. | 18:46 |
| slangasek | infinity: right. this should probably be announced on ubuntu-release at least, before making the change? | 18:46 |
| infinity | slangasek: Announced before sounds like an invitation for discussion, but I agree that it should be announced period, sure. | 18:47 |
| * infinity drafts. | 18:47 | |
| cjwatson | Laney: role account> good idea, Debian uses "freeze" IIRC | 18:50 |
| infinity | slangasek: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6146813/ | 18:56 |
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| infinity | slangasek: Taking your lack of response as consent and sending it. *cough* | 19:22 |
| slangasek | infinity: yeah, lgtm. Did you confirm that kubuntu no longer wants it? | 19:22 |
| slangasek | IIRC that was one of the outstanding points | 19:23 |
| infinity | slangasek: I had a bit of a chat with Riddell, where the conclusion seemed to be "that's unfortunate, but if Canonical no longer wants to maintain the glue needed to make that go..." | 19:23 |
| infinity | slangasek: It's *possible* Kubuntu could do an omap4 desktop based on the -generic kernel and omapfb, since they don't *need* 3D acceleration like Unity does, but the performance would be awful. | 19:24 |
| infinity | slangasek: Nearly everyone I know, Canonical and Community, that uses Pandas, however, uses them to test builds, not to test GUI software, so a full desktop probably isn't that useful to 99% of 'em. I do wish we had *some* default desktop target, but I suspect that's just not likely for 13.10. | 19:25 |
| infinity | slangasek: For 14.04, we could perhaps do it on Beaglebone Blacks or something. | 19:26 |
| slangasek | by 14.04, Intel tells me the minnowboard will make ARM obsolete | 19:26 |
| slangasek | ;) | 19:26 |
| infinity | *smirk* | 19:26 |
| slangasek | of course, they also then proceeded to misspeak and refer to the minnowboard as the beagleboard in their own presentation, so there ya go | 19:27 |
| infinity | All I want is one dev board with a proper open source driver that doesn't suck. Is that too much to ask? | 19:27 |
| apw | heh with the latest unity even some of the existing released h/w now sucks | 19:27 |
| apw | (or mesa or something) | 19:28 |
| tkamppeter | I have synced HPLIP from Debian this weekend (hplip 3.13.9-1) to pull in a security fix, and it is still hanging in -proposed. Can someone move it into the release? | 19:28 |
| infinity | tkamppeter: Looks safe, I'll unblock it. | 19:29 |
| tkamppeter | infinity, thanks. | 19:29 |
| knome | is Janeks991____ seeking support in #u or so? | 20:16 |
| knome | oh, sorry, wrong channel | 20:16 |
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| infinity | slangasek: Any issues with me unblocking the 1-char fix in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/finish-install/2.43ubuntu2 ? | 20:49 |
| cjwatson | infinity: LGTM. May be others ... | 20:55 |
| infinity | cjwatson: That's enough of a +1 for me. | 21:02 |
| cjwatson | Don't see anything else obvious on a brief look. I guess we'll find out. | 21:03 |
| infinity | cjwatson: It's a short-lived hack anyway, robher just pushed a kernel fix to LKML that will let us back this out for 14.04. | 21:04 |
| cjwatson | k, cool | 21:04 |
| infinity | cjwatson: As for other things to unblock, not seeing anything obvious. | 21:05 |
| cjwatson | No, I meant other code to fix | 21:05 |
| infinity | (Also, I think Laney's block script doesn't get d-i anyway) | 21:05 |
| cjwatson | But don't see any | 21:05 |
| cjwatson | I guess armhf/generic is fairly new so not too entrenched | 21:05 |
| infinity | Yeah. Also, I love that Debian picked a different name for that flavour. :/ | 21:06 |
| cjwatson | Joy | 21:06 |
| infinity | I need to sit down and make the Debian armmp and Ubuntu generic things look as similar as I can manage in d-i. | 21:06 |
| infinity | Sort of hoping for a future where we can tear out 99% of the subarch craziness from ARM. | 21:07 |
| plars | beta is not looking too good at the moment | 21:16 |
| plars | xnox: seeing lots of install related issues | 21:16 |
| plars | xnox: seen anything recently with ubiquity where it just fails to come up at all? | 21:17 |
| plars | "error opening config file '/root/.config/pango/pangorc': Permission denied | 21:18 |
| plars | hmm | 21:18 |
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| Riddell | infinity, slangasek: yeah we seem to have come to the conclusion it's ok to end the omap4 images | 21:44 |
| infinity | Riddell: I will try to put some time into making sure the omap4 d-i and server images still work for people who want to use Pandas as headless build test systems. | 21:45 |
| infinity | Riddell: (with the -generic kernel, that is) | 21:46 |
| Riddell | infinity: I just installed the daily last week and it works fine as far as I can tell | 21:46 |
| Riddell | of server | 21:46 |
| infinity | Riddell: Does that already use the -generic kernel, or is that ti-omap4? | 21:46 |
| infinity | (I would have expected it to be omap4, but will be pleasantly surprised if someone already switched that over when I wasn't looking) | 21:48 |
| Riddell | ...logging in... | 21:49 |
| Riddell | jr@airm:~$ uname -a | 21:49 |
| Riddell | Linux airm 3.5.0-232-omap4 #48-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Wed Aug 28 18:37:01 UTC 2013 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux | 21:49 |
| Riddell | linux-omap4 install | 21:50 |
| infinity | Riddell: Right. So, what I meant when I said "make sure server and d-i images work" was "make sure they work with the generic kernel, cause I'm dropping that omap4 kernel on the floor and kicking it in the teeth". | 21:50 |
| Riddell | cruel but kind | 21:50 |
| infinity | Does anyone have any other things they've spotted that need to be unblocked for beta? If not, I'm going to do a full respin to pick up the bits we've trickled in over the day. | 23:40 |
| slangasek | nothing from me | 23:43 |
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