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kbmonkeymorning all04:32
Kiloshi guys05:11
Kiloshi kbmonkey 05:11
kbmonkeyhello Kilos 05:11
Kilosty05:11
kbmonkeyadded back agenda items. that site is terrible to use :(05:11
Kilosfix it05:11
kbmonkeyno you fix it05:12
Kilosno man i break things05:12
kbmonkeyme too! 05:12
kbmonkeyI am not a web site fixer, that is a different kind of engine to maintain05:13
Kiloshahaha oh well well have to grab the pro and get him to do some work for a change05:13
kbmonkeyI wonder how one would go on fixing such a thing05:14
kbmonkeyit feels very slow to use as well05:14
Kilosi have no idea05:14
kbmonkeywhen you type paragrpahs into the agenda descriptions, it just lumps all the text into one big wall of text. it ignores all paragraphs.05:16
kbmonkeylol!05:16
KilosAll is welcome to speak up should be all are welcome05:16
Kilosai!05:16
Kiloshi space 05:17
kbmonkeylol thanks Kilos !05:17
kbmonkeyall are fine here05:18
Kiloshaha05:18
Kilosall is fine here too05:18
kbmonkeyI speak english handsomely since I was twice!05:18
Squirmmorning05:19
Kilosso you have a holiday today05:19
Kiloshi Squirm 05:19
kbmonkeyhi Squirm `05:19
Kilostell me a bit about your weather station05:19
Kiloswhere is all the sensing equipment05:20
Kilosit gives nice info. does it give barometric pressure as well05:21
SquirmKilos: http://197.81.54.12/weewx/05:22
Kilosty05:22
Squirmweewx is an opensource weather logging application05:22
Kiloswow lovely05:22
Squirmtoday I'm going to install it on a RPi05:23
Kilosof software only?05:23
Squirmweewx is05:23
Squirmit gets the information every 5 min from the weather stations wireless console05:23
Squirmand then updates the page every 3005:23
Kiloswhere is the weather station05:24
Squirmhttp://197.81.54.12/weewx/mobile.html I'm busy modifying that page. going to get it to upload to our schools home page05:24
Kilosif i remember right you can almost predict a day ahead by checking barometric pressure05:25
Kilosnormally rains a day after a sharp drop in pressure05:25
Kiloshi Snowy2 05:42
Kiloshi bduk1 05:49
bduk1Morning everyone, Kilos 06:02
* Kilos goes to kde for a bit06:14
Kiloswbb06:14
Kiloshmm...06:25
Kiloskonversation is so slow to find everyone, whether away or not06:26
Kilosinetpro: skelm ne06:26
Kiloslag seker lekker06:27
Kilosgrrr06:27
nocwareMorning everyone06:51
kbmonkeymorning nocware 06:52
nocwareHey kbmonkey how is everything?06:53
kbmonkeyfine and all. enjoying a quick online collectible card game06:55
nocwareWhich one?06:56
kbmonkeyorbsccg. its in beta, if you'd like to try I can send you a referral link and both of us will get a booster pack :)06:57
kbmonkeydon't know if you play ccg's?06:57
kbmonkeyit has an interesting async play method, you have up to 3 days to make a turn06:58
nocwareI haven't played any ccg's but i will try it.06:59
nocwareSend the link! 06:59
kbmonkeyhttp://orbsccg.com/r/cbgw :)07:00
nocwareYa. Problem is I'm away from my pc now. But, i've saved the link07:03
kbmonkeycool - are you on your phone now?07:04
nocwareYup07:04
kbmonkeywhat irc client do you use? 07:04
nocwareAndroIRC07:04
nocwareReally nice07:04
kbmonkeyi'll check that out...07:04
kbmonkeyyey for android :)07:05
nocware:)07:05
nocwareThe android army07:05
* superfly uses QuasselDroid07:05
superflybut then I run a Quassel core :)07:05
kbmonkeyquassel core? I will google that too07:06
kbmonkeyI tried AndChat, but cant get the hang of irc on a phone07:06
superflykbmonkey: quassel is a distributed IRC client07:12
superflyyou run the core on a server somewhere, and then use the client to connect to the core07:12
superflyso there's the Quassel Client for the desktop, and then QuasselDroid for Android, Quassel2Go for Maemo, etc.07:12
kbmonkeydo you host your own core superfly ?07:13
kbmonkeyhello maiatoday, it's been a while, I hope things are well :)07:14
kbmonkeyhello Vince-0 - also enjoying the day off?07:14
superflykbmonkey: i do07:17
kbmonkeyvery nice07:17
Vince-0Giday!07:17
Vince-0negative, at the office today07:17
superflyohai07:17
kbmonkeyI have a shell account I use to irc through so its also online07:18
Vince-0it would be nice to retrieve the logs for a channel for conversations you may have missed while offline07:19
superflyVince-0: that's what makes Quassel so awesome07:21
kbmonkeycat ~/irclogs/server/channel :)07:22
superflykbmonkey: you can download a prebuilt statically linked binary of quassel core that you can run in a shell account with ./quasselcore07:22
kbmonkeyI'll look that up, thanks07:23
Vince-0I use Quassel client on my winbox07:24
Vince-0no server tough07:24
Vince-0though*07:24
kbmonkey<3 ssh07:25
Vince-0so everyone got the day off of work except me?07:29
kbmonkeysorry Vince-0 :(07:29
kbmonkeywe were meant to work too, on the last minute work changed their mind07:29
kbmonkeyit comes down to sitting in front of the pc, coding and listening to music - all I do at work anyway (minus the 100's of meetings)07:33
Vince-0niiice! I actually have to answer the phone and deal with noobs07:39
roochyon days like this when I used to work in a NOC I would just watch movies07:45
roochylet the network monitor itself07:45
roochyhaha07:45
roochywho feels like troubleshooting ospf on days like this07:45
Kiloshi roochy nocware superfly Vince-0 07:50
Kiloshiya maiatoday 07:50
kbmonkeywb meneer07:53
superflyhi kbmonkey07:54
superflyVince-0: I am at work07:55
* superfly is coding in C again today!07:55
superflyon an 8-bit microcontroller07:55
kbmonkeycool! :D07:57
superflyit is very.07:57
superflyAnyone want a job coding in C, C++ and Python?07:58
kbmonkeywill relocation be required superfly ?07:59
superflyyes, but you come to Cape Town07:59
kbmonkeytempting!08:00
kbmonkeybut not feasible at right this moment08:00
kbmonkeyso its C/++ for the embedded chip and python for the interfacing software?08:01
kbmonkeyor does it actually run python onboard the mp?08:02
superflyPython on GAE and C/C++ on the two microprocessors08:03
superflyhttp://nomanini.com/careers/software-developer08:03
kbmonkeythanks :)08:03
maiatodayhi kbmonkey, Kilos08:09
superflyhi maiatoday08:09
maiatodayhi superfly08:11
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superflymaiatoday: if you hear of anyone looking for a job, please can you send them my way? we're looking for developers, and we're Ubuntu friendly :-)08:21
Kiloshi cmsch_ 08:24
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za08:24
Kilosyay, new choqok working on the tweet place08:29
maiatodaywill do superfly, where are you based again?08:32
superflymaiatoday: Cape Town CBD08:35
superfly(the company, though I personally live in Muizenberg)08:35
roochyMuizenberg is gangster paradise08:38
roochymillion whores around as well08:38
cmsch_@Kilos Hi there.  Thanks for the welcome.  Sorry, I was away08:38
Kilosnp08:39
superflyroochy: and you know this because you live there?08:39
roochypretty close to muizenberg08:39
roochyaround the corner actually08:39
roochywhere beach front homes go for <14m08:40
roochy>14m08:41
roochylol08:41
Kilossuperfly: how do you see other twitter accounts in choqok08:45
Kilostheyve autenticated 2 but i see one only08:45
Kilosyou do use choqok hey?08:45
superflyroochy: and where would that be?08:46
roochyyou gonna stalk me08:47
superflyroochy: and since you say that Muizenberg is gansta paradise and full of whores, you must either be a gansta or a whore...08:47
superflyor both 0_o08:47
roochythat does not make sense08:47
roochyI used to surf at muizenberg beach when I was a kid08:48
roochywhen the water was kinda clean08:48
roochyand when I sucked at surfing haha08:48
Kiloshehe08:50
Kilosmôre inetpro 09:01
Kiloshi nlsthzn 11:04
nlsthznuncle Kilos :) alo11:09
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Kiloshi smile andrewlsd psyatw 14:33
psyatwhi Kilos14:34
smile:)14:34
andrewlsdHi there14:42
andrewlsdAll quiet on the western front.14:50
Kilosyeah15:03
Kilosmeeting tonight at 8.30pm guys15:04
Kilosbbl15:11
superflymeeting tonight?17:20
superflyah, 8:3017:20
superflyexcellent17:20
Kilosya17:20
superflynlsthzn: did you see the news? http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS17:41
kbmonkeyhallo18:15
captineHello18:15
Kiloshi captine welcome to ubuntu-za18:16
Kiloshi kbmonkey 18:16
Kiloshaha reak name = ask18:16
Kilosreal18:16
nlsthznsuperfly, doesn't surprise me as they have been totting linux as the next big thing for gaming for a while... but let me read it propperly :)18:19
nlsthznoh wow, I am here by accident for the meeting :p18:21
Kiloshehe18:21
captinethnx,  saw there was some meeting tonight on the mailing list, so thought I would pop in while I have some time18:21
* nlsthzn just watched "Now you see me"... was ok18:21
kbmonkeysteam os? hmmm, whatever.18:22
nlsthznlibrary over a 100 games stromg and growing18:22
nlsthznbring it on18:23
kbmonkeyI am disenchanted by steam for many years now18:23
queerynaand18:23
nlsthznproper net and steam rocks... anything else and I agree 100%18:23
Kiloshi queery 18:24
kbmonkeyhi queery18:24
queeryhi oom Kilos 18:24
kbmonkeyhi captine 18:24
queeryhi kbmonkey 18:24
queeryMaaz, coffee on18:24
* Maaz puts the kettle on18:24
queeryMaaz, coffee for all18:24
Vince-0Hi18:24
MaazCome on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already18:24
* nlsthzn has to get the new GladOS announcer pack for dota 2... too funny18:24
kbmonkeythere was that other gaming platform... err I cannot remember the name. You can self publish your games there.18:25
queeryit is meeting tonight right18:25
Kilosyeah18:25
Kilosin 5 mins18:25
kbmonkeythat is correct queery 18:25
queerycool18:26
superflykbmonkey: desura?18:27
kbmonkeycool indeed :)18:27
superflyYou can self-publish on Steam too18:27
kbmonkeyyes it was probably desura, thanks superfly 18:27
MaazCoffee's ready for queery!18:28
nlsthznDesura held much promise18:28
nlsthznbought one game on it...18:28
nlsthznSome RTS about Oil18:28
kbmonkeyis nuvolari here tonight?18:29
Kilosping him18:29
kbmonkeymaybe he'll pop in a bit later18:32
kbmonkeyshall we start just now?18:32
queeryok18:33
kbmonkeyright, let me turn on the hamster in maaz's brain18:33
queerycan we please keep to max 1 hour18:34
superflyI need to get children to bed, so if we start and I register my attendance, then I can be back in about 15 minutes18:34
kbmonkeysure thing queery and superfly18:34
queeryI though the kids go to bed at 818:34
kbmonkeyMaaz, start meeting about Monthly Ubuntu-ZA irc meet18:34
* Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles18:34
* nlsthzn switches off dota :(18:34
superflyMaaz: I am Raoul Snyman18:35
Maazsuperfly: Done18:35
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Welcome18:35
inetproMaaz: I am Gustav H Meyer18:35
Maazinetpro: Yessir18:35
MaazCurrent Topic: Welcome18:35
* superfly exits for the moment18:35
nlsthznMaaz, I am Neil Oosthuizen18:35
Maaznlsthzn: Righto18:35
KilosMaaz, I am Miles Sharpe18:35
MaazKilos: Righto18:35
Vince-0Maaz: I am Vincent McMan Swart18:35
MaazVince-0: Sure18:35
kbmonkeywhat is dota? ;P18:35
kbmonkeyMaaz, I am Wesley Werner18:35
captine Maaz I am Bradley Putzier18:35
Maazkbmonkey: Yessir18:35
Maazcaptine: Alrighty18:35
queeryMaaz, i am Dewald Noeth lord of Gauteng18:35
Maazqueery: Alrighty18:35
kbmonkeyHello everyone and welcome to our Ubuntu ZA irc meeting18:36
* nlsthzn will one day enlighten kbmonkey in dota when he has shown himself worthy...18:36
Kiloslol18:36
kbmonkeyif you'd like to join then announce your name to our robot Maaz by following our lead18:36
kbmonkeymeanwhile, I'll do the admin bit...18:37
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Previous minutes and Admin18:37
MaazCurrent Topic: Previous minutes and Admin18:37
kbmonkeyThe agenda for tonight can be found at: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/645/detail/18:37
kbmonkeywe have a couple of events to mention18:38
kbmonkeyand last time we agreed to move the meeting time to 20:30 (I think that was the second time we agreed to that)18:38
Kilosyip18:39
kbmonkeyeveryone happy with the time so far?18:39
queeryso the kids could be put to bed at 8...18:39
captinegood for me18:39
* nlsthzn is in bed18:39
queeryyea that worked...18:39
kbmonkeycool!18:39
* inetpro is happy18:39
Kilosand on time18:39
Kilosoops18:39
kbmonkeythe other agenda items from last time spawned event topics, so I won't repeat them here18:39
inetproeh18:39
nlsthznthey had kittens18:40
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Event - Software freedom day 201318:41
MaazCurrent Topic: Event - Software freedom day 201318:41
queery\rms18:41
nlsthznsaw some vids on Youtube looked like a good event18:42
kbmonkeyI want to thank Vince, Una and William for making this happen on the 21st, for Durban that is18:42
queeryJHB one was awesome18:42
Vince-0so RMS was a bit early for SFD18:42
kbmonkeynice queery :)18:43
queeryyea but the event was one thing18:43
Vince-0the Durban talk's video was recorded and will be online eventually18:43
Kilospics18:43
kbmonkeythere are some pics floating around from SFD, can we get those onto the ubntu-za site?18:43
queerydepends if we meet the rms requirements heh18:44
Vince-0here's a kak one I took from the side-lines18:44
Vince-0http://durbanlinux.org.za/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/IMG_20130906_172543.jpg18:44
superflywhat about uploading them to Flickr or something and then just linking?18:44
kbmonkeyah cool thanks Vince-0 - am keen for the video of RMS to pass that along18:44
kbmonkeygood idea superfly, they might already be hosted on G+ even18:44
Vince-0try archive.org see licensing18:45
kbmonkeyhmm, okay I cannot load G+ at this time (maxing out at 1KB/s)18:45
Kilosow18:46
kbmonkeyqueery, if you find some pics of the JHB sfd please email them to the list :)18:46
queerywill see what I can do18:47
kbmonkeyI'll get what I can from our event and post it on the site at http://ubuntu-za.org/18:47
Kilospsychicist, you didnt login with maaz did you?18:47
kbmonkeyMaaz, agreed Wesley to post links to SFD pics on http://ubuntu-za.org/18:48
MaazAgreed: Wesley to post links to SFD pics on http://ubuntu-za.org/18:48
kbmonkeyand when the RMS talk video is out a link for it will be found on http://durbanlinux.org.za, correct Vince-0? The dlug mailing list (and Ubuntu list) will probably hear of it first though :)18:50
Vince-0yep, UKZN will probably host it as well, it was about 2 hours long with questions from attendees afterward18:51
kbmonkeyOrsum18:52
Kiloshi cmsch login with maaz please18:52
Kilosfor the records18:52
kbmonkeyhello cmsch 18:52
queeryJHB one was covered by LetsTalkGeek, will find out where and how they are sharing it18:52
kbmonkeythanks!18:53
kbmonkeyright, next event...18:53
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Event - PyCon ZA in Cape Town 3+4th October - http://za.pycon.org18:53
MaazCurrent Topic: Event - PyCon ZA in Cape Town 3+4th October - http://za.pycon.org18:54
cmschmaaz I am Chris Schoonbee18:54
Maazcmsch: Yessir18:54
kbmonkeyThis sounds amazing, unfortunately I won't be able to join Cape Town for this auspicious event18:55
kbmonkeyanyone from CT here that will be going?18:55
Kilosnice to see some new faces18:55
* kbmonkey agrees with Kilos 18:56
Kilostumbleweed, you lurking?18:56
kbmonkeywow PyCon has some heavy hitter sponsors18:57
kbmonkeyand the site itself is hosted on GitHub and open for pull requests, now that is quite interesting!18:58
Vince-0#cpug on shadowfire if I'm not mistaken18:59
Vince-0I see their pull request announcements in there all day18:59
Vince-0or is it #ctpug18:59
superflykbmonkey: personally I wouldn't grace the site with the time18:59
superflyVince-0: #ctpug on Atrum19:00
Vince-0Atrum! Need to add it here19:00
superflykbmonkey: I won't be there, but I'll see if I can find someone else who is19:00
kbmonkeyno worries superfly, was just poking around :)19:01
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic House4Hack KZN meet up on Thursday (TBC)19:02
MaazCurrent Topic: House4Hack KZN meet up on Thursday (TBC)19:02
kbmonkeyI thought to just mention this as there is some cross-over interest19:02
queerydidn't know there was a H4H in kzn19:02
kbmonkeyas far as I know the new venue is to be confirmed, 19:03
inetprokbmonkey: durban area?19:04
Vince-0their site is in disrepair: http://kzn.house4hack.co.za/19:04
Vince-0mail-list here: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/kznhouse4hack19:04
kbmonkeyah thanks Vince-0 ! I was looking for that19:04
kbmonkeythere we go, a short plug for those interested :)19:05
Vince-0a more permanent venue will be great, house 3d printer to learn on19:05
Vince-0maybe some hacker coffee binge events19:06
kbmonkeyindeed!19:06
kbmonkeyI feel very terse tonight :p19:07
queeryplease post it on the ubuntu-za site and on ubuntu loco events19:07
queeryas soon as it is confirmed19:08
superflyif anyone needs access or wants to know if we can expand the site, please don't hesitate to contact me19:08
superflyPM me if you want my e-mail address19:08
kbmonkeyright, also I believe there is a H4H KZN site coming. 19:09
kbmonkeythanks superfly19:09
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic GNU / Linux studies19:10
MaazCurrent Topic: GNU / Linux studies19:10
kbmonkeyoh thanks again superfly, for getting the studies site back up - you truly are a miracle worker19:10
queery*someone was listening at the RMS talks19:11
superflykbmonkey: heh. Apache was just moaning because I removed some old cruft and forgot to remove the apache config too19:11
kbmonkeymagespawn prompted us to take the studies up again19:11
kbmonkeythe site is at http://linux-studies.za.net19:11
Kilosand our chat channel is at #linux-studies19:12
kbmonkeyand it says meets are Friday evenings. realistically not everyone will be doing that on a Friday evening, so for the whole of the weekend just come pop into the freenode channel #linux-studies for talk on the LPI material19:12
kbmonkeyI believe we are going for the chapter on partitioning and installing CentOS next19:13
kbmonkey(but you may use any other distro for the most parts)19:13
Vince-0so the goal there is to get through LPI1 course entirely?19:13
kbmonkeythat is the goal for some19:14
kbmonkeythe rest also just want to learn, even if you do not plan to write the exams19:14
kbmonkeyhmm, magespawn is not online tonight19:15
Kilosyeah new job is tiring him out19:15
kbmonkeyshame man19:15
Kilosheel get used to it, syas maybe 6 months then things will settle down19:16
Kilossays19:16
kbmonkeyright, events I have left out?19:16
queerywhat about release parties19:16
queeryanyone willing to organise some?19:16
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic Ubuntu 13.10 release parties19:17
MaazCurrent Topic: Ubuntu 13.10 release parties19:17
inetprowhen is the release date again?19:17
kbmonkeygee, I am not sure about that19:17
superflysometime in October? :-P19:17
kbmonkey^ that XD19:17
Kiloshehe19:18
kbmonkeyusually nearer the end of the month19:18
queerydon't see an official one yet19:18
inetprohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule19:18
queeryoh October 17th19:18
queerybut we can alway schedual it a week or 2 later19:19
kbmonkeythanks queery 19:19
queerykk19:19
inetprothat means it will be released before our next meeting?19:19
kbmonkeythat is 10 days before the next meeting19:20
inetprohmm...19:20
queeryjip19:20
queerystill say hild it first weekend in Nov19:21
queeryenough time to sort the bugs and get repos built19:21
kbmonkeythat is also possible19:21
kbmonkeythat will get resolved via the list 19:21
inetprogood idea19:22
queeryjip19:22
kbmonkeyMaaz, agreed to plan Ubuntu 13.10 (17 Oct) release parties for the first week in November19:22
MaazAgreed: to plan Ubuntu 13.10 (17 Oct) release parties for the first week in November19:22
kbmonkeyif it comes down to some folks wanting to have one sooner, then all the better 19:23
kbmonkeyheck, two parties is better than one19:23
kbmonkeyis/are19:23
queeryjip19:23
inetproarr19:23
kbmonkeymagic19:24
queeryhuh?19:24
kbmonkeywell I think that is our meeting19:24
queerycool19:24
kbmonkey1 hour as requested :)19:25
Kilosthanks kbmonkey and all who attended19:25
kbmonkeyhang on19:25
kbmonkeyMaaz, topic closing and elect next chair19:25
MaazCurrent Topic: closing and elect next chair19:25
* Kilos votes kbmonkey 19:25
Kilosjust keep the sight working19:26
kbmonkeyyessir19:26
inetpro+1 for kbmonkey19:26
kbmonkeyHave anything to add? All is welcome to speak up. And elect the next meeting chair19:26
* queery seconds19:26
kbmonkeycool bananas - thanks all for your time 19:27
Kiloslets give him some karma19:27
KilosMaaz, kbmonkey ++19:27
queeryMaaz, kbmonkey ++19:27
Vince-0thanks kbmonkey19:28
kbmonkeyMaaz, agreed kbmonkey to chair the next meeting (28 Oct)19:28
MaazAgreed: kbmonkey to chair the next meeting (28 Oct)19:28
kbmonkeyRocktober19:28
kbmonkeyMaaz, end meeting19:28
MaazMeeting Ended19:28
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queerydankie en good night19:28
kbmonkeygn queery 19:28
Kiloscheers queery see you th3 28th19:28
queerynag almal19:29
cmschcheers everyone. thanks kbmonkey19:29
kbmonkeymaking the next agenda link now19:29
kbmonkeythanks for staying tuned cmsch 19:29
Kilosthanks for the visit cm19:29
Kilosai!19:29
Kiloscmsch, you welcome to visit here anytime19:30
Kilosor all the time19:30
Kilossome of us live here19:30
cmschthanks Kilos: Will do so19:30
Kiloskbmonkey, you sorted the centos install prob yet?19:31
Kilosi gotta fix a broken/crashed kde19:32
* Kilos hides19:32
kbmonkeyrighto, the next agenda link is http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/666/detail/19:34
kbmonkeyhow appropriate for the hallows eve month19:35
kbmonkeyKilos, hide from that kde! quick! he he19:35
Kilosno hiding from fly and pro19:36
Kilosthey said dont fiddle there19:36
kbmonkeyI'll research the qemu a bit on that issue. I can always fall back on software emulation...19:36
Vince-0kbmonkey: try LXC (Linux Containers?)19:37
Vince-0if you're trying some VMs for dev and tests take a look at Proxmox - easy front end distro for KVM + OpenVZ 19:38
kbmonkeyI have an unused HP microserver just sitting here, but for some reason CentOS cant boot off usb - gotta be a spinnign medium :P19:38
kbmonkeyit does not have a optical drive - murpheys law eh ;)19:39
Vince-0ya those microservers don't come wif19:39
Kiloswhat if you use inetbootin kbmonkey 19:39
Kilosinet unet i forget19:40
kbmonkeycool thanks! I will look into LXC and Proxmox!19:40
Vince-0I'm sure I've got a ROM drive lying around here somewhere19:40
Vince-0I guess its also easy to run Virtualbox headless with the web front end19:40
Vince-0depends on your requirements, OpenVZ and LXC are the most lightweight19:40
kbmonkeygood idea Kilos. in fact I could probably setup a syslinux boot that loopback mounts the isos. but yeah... voodoo19:41
Kilosyou have the iso use inetbootin to make it work from a stick19:41
Kilosanyway guys. sleep tight19:42
Vince-0cya19:42
kbmonkeyright-o Kilos good night19:42
Kilossee ya-all morrow19:42
Vince-0kbmonkey: you hackin something tonight?19:42
kbmonkeynope Vince-0, I was just trying to install CentOS for the LPI stuff19:43
Vince-0ag, well CentOS in a VirtualBox will be a sinch 19:45
Vince-0I used Ubuntu on USB with a microserver once - it was kak slow19:45
Vince-0switched to the 250gb hdd that came with it19:45
kbmonkeyoh and I got the plivo and adhearsion pages here, I still need to write up some test apps to see how they integrate. very very interesting stuff19:49
kbmonkeyI *wish* the boss took up my advice to move to a cross-platform free framework. these would have been perfect.19:50
Vince-0it's pretty high level functionality, web progs for telephones is awesome19:51
Vince-0I'm reading about Django and web design19:52
kbmonkeyI think it is time to listed to some Avatar. 19:57
kbmonkeyGot to love them Swedish Metal19:58
Vince-0yoh! Can't say I've given 'em a listen19:58
superflyVince-0: try Pyramid before you try Django20:03
Vince-0for front-end noobs?20:04
Vince-0kbmonkey: those Swedes are somthing else. See a band called Ghost20:06
Vince-0I like The Haunted20:08
kbmonkeycool, I'll look them up20:08
Vince-0I went to Sweden once, saw Opeth, The Haunted, Children of Bodom and some other scandanavians20:09
superflyVince-0: it totally depends on your templating engine... you could use Jinja2 which is nearly identical to Django's templating, or you could use something like Genshi, which is XML-based, or Mako in which you can do some fancy stuff to make your designer's lives easier20:09
kbmonkeyisn't Arch Enemy also Swedish20:09
kbmonkeywow that is some lineup you saw!20:09
superflyArrrrrrrr! Alestorm!20:10
Vince-0kbmonkey: Arch Enemy front-lady is Swedish, the rest of the band are Germans. Metaltown 200920:10
* superfly goes out to Ingress for a bit20:11
Vince-0cya superfly20:11
Vince-0aarrr, falling asleep. bbt20:39
kbmonkeyyeah, that happens. got my chores done20:40

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