[04:32] morning all [05:11] hi guys [05:11] hi kbmonkey [05:11] hello Kilos [05:11] ty [05:11] added back agenda items. that site is terrible to use :( [05:11] fix it [05:12] no you fix it [05:12] no man i break things [05:12] me too! [05:13] I am not a web site fixer, that is a different kind of engine to maintain [05:13] hahaha oh well well have to grab the pro and get him to do some work for a change [05:14] I wonder how one would go on fixing such a thing [05:14] it feels very slow to use as well [05:14] i have no idea [05:16] when you type paragrpahs into the agenda descriptions, it just lumps all the text into one big wall of text. it ignores all paragraphs. [05:16] lol! [05:16] All is welcome to speak up should be all are welcome [05:16] ai! [05:17] hi space [05:17] lol thanks Kilos ! [05:18] all are fine here [05:18] haha [05:18] all is fine here too [05:18] I speak english handsomely since I was twice! [05:19] morning [05:19] so you have a holiday today [05:19] hi Squirm [05:19] hi Squirm ` [05:19] tell me a bit about your weather station [05:20] where is all the sensing equipment [05:21] it gives nice info. does it give barometric pressure as well [05:22] Kilos: http://197.81.54.12/weewx/ [05:22] ty [05:22] weewx is an opensource weather logging application [05:22] wow lovely [05:23] today I'm going to install it on a RPi [05:23] of software only? [05:23] weewx is [05:23] it gets the information every 5 min from the weather stations wireless console [05:23] and then updates the page every 30 [05:24] where is the weather station [05:24] http://197.81.54.12/weewx/mobile.html I'm busy modifying that page. going to get it to upload to our schools home page [05:25] if i remember right you can almost predict a day ahead by checking barometric pressure [05:25] normally rains a day after a sharp drop in pressure [05:42] hi Snowy2 [05:49] hi bduk1 [06:02] Morning everyone, Kilos [06:14] * Kilos goes to kde for a bit [06:14] wbb [06:25] hmm... [06:26] konversation is so slow to find everyone, whether away or not [06:26] inetpro: skelm ne [06:27] lag seker lekker [06:27] grrr [06:51] Morning everyone [06:52] morning nocware [06:53] Hey kbmonkey how is everything? [06:55] fine and all. enjoying a quick online collectible card game [06:56] Which one? [06:57] orbsccg. its in beta, if you'd like to try I can send you a referral link and both of us will get a booster pack :) [06:57] don't know if you play ccg's? [06:58] it has an interesting async play method, you have up to 3 days to make a turn [06:59] I haven't played any ccg's but i will try it. [06:59] Send the link! [07:00] http://orbsccg.com/r/cbgw :) [07:03] Ya. Problem is I'm away from my pc now. But, i've saved the link [07:04] cool - are you on your phone now? [07:04] Yup [07:04] what irc client do you use? [07:04] AndroIRC [07:04] Really nice [07:04] i'll check that out... [07:05] yey for android :) [07:05] :) [07:05] The android army [07:05] * superfly uses QuasselDroid [07:05] but then I run a Quassel core :) [07:06] quassel core? I will google that too [07:06] I tried AndChat, but cant get the hang of irc on a phone [07:12] kbmonkey: quassel is a distributed IRC client [07:12] you run the core on a server somewhere, and then use the client to connect to the core [07:12] so there's the Quassel Client for the desktop, and then QuasselDroid for Android, Quassel2Go for Maemo, etc. [07:13] do you host your own core superfly ? [07:14] hello maiatoday, it's been a while, I hope things are well :) [07:14] hello Vince-0 - also enjoying the day off? [07:17] kbmonkey: i do [07:17] very nice [07:17] Giday! [07:17] negative, at the office today [07:17] ohai [07:18] I have a shell account I use to irc through so its also online [07:19] it would be nice to retrieve the logs for a channel for conversations you may have missed while offline [07:21] Vince-0: that's what makes Quassel so awesome [07:22] cat ~/irclogs/server/channel :) [07:22] kbmonkey: you can download a prebuilt statically linked binary of quassel core that you can run in a shell account with ./quasselcore [07:23] I'll look that up, thanks [07:24] I use Quassel client on my winbox [07:24] no server tough [07:24] though* [07:25] <3 ssh [07:29] so everyone got the day off of work except me? [07:29] sorry Vince-0 :( [07:29] we were meant to work too, on the last minute work changed their mind [07:33] it comes down to sitting in front of the pc, coding and listening to music - all I do at work anyway (minus the 100's of meetings) [07:39] niiice! I actually have to answer the phone and deal with noobs [07:45] on days like this when I used to work in a NOC I would just watch movies [07:45] let the network monitor itself [07:45] haha [07:45] who feels like troubleshooting ospf on days like this [07:50] hi roochy nocware superfly Vince-0 [07:50] hiya maiatoday [07:53] wb meneer [07:54] hi kbmonkey [07:55] Vince-0: I am at work [07:55] * superfly is coding in C again today! [07:55] on an 8-bit microcontroller [07:57] cool! :D [07:57] it is very. [07:58] Anyone want a job coding in C, C++ and Python? [07:59] will relocation be required superfly ? [07:59] yes, but you come to Cape Town [08:00] tempting! [08:00] but not feasible at right this moment [08:01] so its C/++ for the embedded chip and python for the interfacing software? [08:02] or does it actually run python onboard the mp? [08:03] Python on GAE and C/C++ on the two microprocessors [08:03] http://nomanini.com/careers/software-developer [08:03] thanks :) [08:09] hi kbmonkey, Kilos [08:09] hi maiatoday [08:11] hi superfly === cmsch is now known as cmsch_ [08:21] maiatoday: if you hear of anyone looking for a job, please can you send them my way? we're looking for developers, and we're Ubuntu friendly :-) [08:24] hi cmsch_ [08:24] welcome to ubuntu-za [08:29] yay, new choqok working on the tweet place [08:32] will do superfly, where are you based again? [08:35] maiatoday: Cape Town CBD [08:35] (the company, though I personally live in Muizenberg) [08:38] Muizenberg is gangster paradise [08:38] million whores around as well [08:38] @Kilos Hi there. Thanks for the welcome. Sorry, I was away [08:39] np [08:39] roochy: and you know this because you live there? [08:39] pretty close to muizenberg [08:39] around the corner actually [08:40] where beach front homes go for <14m [08:41] >14m [08:41] lol [08:45] superfly: how do you see other twitter accounts in choqok [08:45] theyve autenticated 2 but i see one only [08:45] you do use choqok hey? [08:46] roochy: and where would that be? [08:47] you gonna stalk me [08:47] roochy: and since you say that Muizenberg is gansta paradise and full of whores, you must either be a gansta or a whore... [08:47] or both 0_o [08:47] that does not make sense [08:48] I used to surf at muizenberg beach when I was a kid [08:48] when the water was kinda clean [08:48] and when I sucked at surfing haha [08:50] hehe [09:01] môre inetpro [11:04] hi nlsthzn [11:09] uncle Kilos :) alo === psyatw is now known as WalrusBoy === WalrusBoy is now known as psyatw === zerlgi is now known as andrewlsd [14:33] hi smile andrewlsd psyatw [14:34] hi Kilos [14:34] :) [14:42] Hi there [14:50] All quiet on the western front. [15:03] yeah [15:04] meeting tonight at 8.30pm guys [15:11] bbl [17:20] meeting tonight? [17:20] ah, 8:30 [17:20] excellent [17:20] ya [17:41] nlsthzn: did you see the news? http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS [18:15] hallo [18:15] Hello [18:16] hi captine welcome to ubuntu-za [18:16] hi kbmonkey [18:16] haha reak name = ask [18:16] real [18:19] superfly, doesn't surprise me as they have been totting linux as the next big thing for gaming for a while... but let me read it propperly :) [18:21] oh wow, I am here by accident for the meeting :p [18:21] hehe [18:21] thnx, saw there was some meeting tonight on the mailing list, so thought I would pop in while I have some time [18:21] * nlsthzn just watched "Now you see me"... was ok [18:22] steam os? hmmm, whatever. [18:22] library over a 100 games stromg and growing [18:23] bring it on [18:23] I am disenchanted by steam for many years now [18:23] naand [18:23] proper net and steam rocks... anything else and I agree 100% [18:24] hi queery [18:24] hi queery [18:24] hi oom Kilos [18:24] hi captine [18:24] hi kbmonkey [18:24] Maaz, coffee on [18:24] * Maaz puts the kettle on [18:24] Maaz, coffee for all [18:24] Hi [18:24] Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already [18:24] * nlsthzn has to get the new GladOS announcer pack for dota 2... too funny [18:25] there was that other gaming platform... err I cannot remember the name. You can self publish your games there. [18:25] it is meeting tonight right [18:25] yeah [18:25] in 5 mins [18:25] that is correct queery [18:26] cool [18:27] kbmonkey: desura? [18:27] cool indeed :) [18:27] You can self-publish on Steam too [18:27] yes it was probably desura, thanks superfly [18:28] Coffee's ready for queery! [18:28] Desura held much promise [18:28] bought one game on it... [18:28] Some RTS about Oil [18:29] is nuvolari here tonight? [18:29] ping him [18:32] maybe he'll pop in a bit later [18:32] shall we start just now? [18:33] ok [18:33] right, let me turn on the hamster in maaz's brain [18:34] can we please keep to max 1 hour [18:34] I need to get children to bed, so if we start and I register my attendance, then I can be back in about 15 minutes [18:34] sure thing queery and superfly [18:34] I though the kids go to bed at 8 [18:34] Maaz, start meeting about Monthly Ubuntu-ZA irc meet [18:34] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [18:34] * nlsthzn switches off dota :( [18:35] Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman [18:35] superfly: Done [18:35] Maaz, topic Welcome [18:35] Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer [18:35] inetpro: Yessir [18:35] Current Topic: Welcome [18:35] * superfly exits for the moment [18:35] Maaz, I am Neil Oosthuizen [18:35] nlsthzn: Righto [18:35] Maaz, I am Miles Sharpe [18:35] Kilos: Righto [18:35] Maaz: I am Vincent McMan Swart [18:35] Vince-0: Sure [18:35] what is dota? ;P [18:35] Maaz, I am Wesley Werner [18:35] Maaz I am Bradley Putzier [18:35] kbmonkey: Yessir [18:35] captine: Alrighty [18:35] Maaz, i am Dewald Noeth lord of Gauteng [18:35] queery: Alrighty [18:36] Hello everyone and welcome to our Ubuntu ZA irc meeting [18:36] * nlsthzn will one day enlighten kbmonkey in dota when he has shown himself worthy... [18:36] lol [18:36] if you'd like to join then announce your name to our robot Maaz by following our lead [18:37] meanwhile, I'll do the admin bit... [18:37] Maaz, topic Previous minutes and Admin [18:37] Current Topic: Previous minutes and Admin [18:37] The agenda for tonight can be found at: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/645/detail/ [18:38] we have a couple of events to mention [18:38] and last time we agreed to move the meeting time to 20:30 (I think that was the second time we agreed to that) [18:39] yip [18:39] everyone happy with the time so far? [18:39] so the kids could be put to bed at 8... [18:39] good for me [18:39] * nlsthzn is in bed [18:39] yea that worked... [18:39] cool! [18:39] * inetpro is happy [18:39] and on time [18:39] oops [18:39] the other agenda items from last time spawned event topics, so I won't repeat them here [18:39] eh [18:40] they had kittens [18:41] Maaz, topic Event - Software freedom day 2013 [18:41] Current Topic: Event - Software freedom day 2013 [18:41] \rms [18:42] saw some vids on Youtube looked like a good event [18:42] I want to thank Vince, Una and William for making this happen on the 21st, for Durban that is [18:42] JHB one was awesome [18:42] so RMS was a bit early for SFD [18:43] nice queery :) [18:43] yea but the event was one thing [18:43] the Durban talk's video was recorded and will be online eventually [18:43] pics [18:43] there are some pics floating around from SFD, can we get those onto the ubntu-za site? [18:44] depends if we meet the rms requirements heh [18:44] here's a kak one I took from the side-lines [18:44] http://durbanlinux.org.za/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/IMG_20130906_172543.jpg [18:44] what about uploading them to Flickr or something and then just linking? [18:44] ah cool thanks Vince-0 - am keen for the video of RMS to pass that along [18:44] good idea superfly, they might already be hosted on G+ even [18:45] try archive.org see licensing [18:45] hmm, okay I cannot load G+ at this time (maxing out at 1KB/s) [18:46] ow [18:46] queery, if you find some pics of the JHB sfd please email them to the list :) [18:47] will see what I can do [18:47] I'll get what I can from our event and post it on the site at http://ubuntu-za.org/ [18:47] psychicist, you didnt login with maaz did you? [18:48] Maaz, agreed Wesley to post links to SFD pics on http://ubuntu-za.org/ [18:48] Agreed: Wesley to post links to SFD pics on http://ubuntu-za.org/ [18:50] and when the RMS talk video is out a link for it will be found on http://durbanlinux.org.za, correct Vince-0? The dlug mailing list (and Ubuntu list) will probably hear of it first though :) [18:51] yep, UKZN will probably host it as well, it was about 2 hours long with questions from attendees afterward [18:52] Orsum [18:52] hi cmsch login with maaz please [18:52] for the records [18:52] hello cmsch [18:52] JHB one was covered by LetsTalkGeek, will find out where and how they are sharing it [18:53] thanks! [18:53] right, next event... [18:53] Maaz, topic Event - PyCon ZA in Cape Town 3+4th October - http://za.pycon.org [18:54] Current Topic: Event - PyCon ZA in Cape Town 3+4th October - http://za.pycon.org [18:54] maaz I am Chris Schoonbee [18:54] cmsch: Yessir [18:55] This sounds amazing, unfortunately I won't be able to join Cape Town for this auspicious event [18:55] anyone from CT here that will be going? [18:55] nice to see some new faces [18:56] * kbmonkey agrees with Kilos [18:56] tumbleweed, you lurking? [18:57] wow PyCon has some heavy hitter sponsors [18:58] and the site itself is hosted on GitHub and open for pull requests, now that is quite interesting! [18:59] #cpug on shadowfire if I'm not mistaken [18:59] I see their pull request announcements in there all day [18:59] or is it #ctpug [18:59] kbmonkey: personally I wouldn't grace the site with the time [19:00] Vince-0: #ctpug on Atrum [19:00] Atrum! Need to add it here [19:00] kbmonkey: I won't be there, but I'll see if I can find someone else who is [19:01] no worries superfly, was just poking around :) [19:02] Maaz, topic House4Hack KZN meet up on Thursday (TBC) [19:02] Current Topic: House4Hack KZN meet up on Thursday (TBC) [19:02] I thought to just mention this as there is some cross-over interest [19:02] didn't know there was a H4H in kzn [19:03] as far as I know the new venue is to be confirmed, [19:04] kbmonkey: durban area? [19:04] their site is in disrepair: http://kzn.house4hack.co.za/ [19:04] mail-list here: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/kznhouse4hack [19:04] ah thanks Vince-0 ! I was looking for that [19:05] there we go, a short plug for those interested :) [19:05] a more permanent venue will be great, house 3d printer to learn on [19:06] maybe some hacker coffee binge events [19:06] indeed! [19:07] I feel very terse tonight :p [19:07] please post it on the ubuntu-za site and on ubuntu loco events [19:08] as soon as it is confirmed [19:08] if anyone needs access or wants to know if we can expand the site, please don't hesitate to contact me [19:08] PM me if you want my e-mail address [19:09] right, also I believe there is a H4H KZN site coming. [19:09] thanks superfly [19:10] Maaz, topic GNU / Linux studies [19:10] Current Topic: GNU / Linux studies [19:10] oh thanks again superfly, for getting the studies site back up - you truly are a miracle worker [19:11] *someone was listening at the RMS talks [19:11] kbmonkey: heh. Apache was just moaning because I removed some old cruft and forgot to remove the apache config too [19:11] magespawn prompted us to take the studies up again [19:11] the site is at http://linux-studies.za.net [19:12] and our chat channel is at #linux-studies [19:12] and it says meets are Friday evenings. realistically not everyone will be doing that on a Friday evening, so for the whole of the weekend just come pop into the freenode channel #linux-studies for talk on the LPI material [19:13] I believe we are going for the chapter on partitioning and installing CentOS next [19:13] (but you may use any other distro for the most parts) [19:13] so the goal there is to get through LPI1 course entirely? [19:14] that is the goal for some [19:14] the rest also just want to learn, even if you do not plan to write the exams [19:15] hmm, magespawn is not online tonight [19:15] yeah new job is tiring him out [19:15] shame man [19:16] heel get used to it, syas maybe 6 months then things will settle down [19:16] says [19:16] right, events I have left out? [19:16] what about release parties [19:16] anyone willing to organise some? [19:17] Maaz, topic Ubuntu 13.10 release parties [19:17] Current Topic: Ubuntu 13.10 release parties [19:17] when is the release date again? [19:17] gee, I am not sure about that [19:17] sometime in October? :-P [19:17] ^ that XD [19:18] hehe [19:18] usually nearer the end of the month [19:18] don't see an official one yet [19:18] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule [19:18] oh October 17th [19:19] but we can alway schedual it a week or 2 later [19:19] thanks queery [19:19] kk [19:19] that means it will be released before our next meeting? [19:20] that is 10 days before the next meeting [19:20] hmm... [19:20] jip [19:21] still say hild it first weekend in Nov [19:21] enough time to sort the bugs and get repos built [19:21] that is also possible [19:21] that will get resolved via the list [19:22] good idea [19:22] jip [19:22] Maaz, agreed to plan Ubuntu 13.10 (17 Oct) release parties for the first week in November [19:22] Agreed: to plan Ubuntu 13.10 (17 Oct) release parties for the first week in November [19:23] if it comes down to some folks wanting to have one sooner, then all the better [19:23] heck, two parties is better than one [19:23] is/are [19:23] jip [19:23] arr [19:24] magic [19:24] huh? [19:24] well I think that is our meeting [19:24] cool [19:25] 1 hour as requested :) [19:25] thanks kbmonkey and all who attended [19:25] hang on [19:25] Maaz, topic closing and elect next chair [19:25] Current Topic: closing and elect next chair [19:25] * Kilos votes kbmonkey [19:26] just keep the sight working [19:26] yessir [19:26] +1 for kbmonkey [19:26] Have anything to add? All is welcome to speak up. And elect the next meeting chair [19:26] * queery seconds [19:27] cool bananas - thanks all for your time [19:27] lets give him some karma [19:27] Maaz, kbmonkey ++ [19:27] Maaz, kbmonkey ++ [19:28] thanks kbmonkey [19:28] Maaz, agreed kbmonkey to chair the next meeting (28 Oct) [19:28] Agreed: kbmonkey to chair the next meeting (28 Oct) [19:28] Rocktober [19:28] Maaz, end meeting [19:28] Meeting Ended [19:28] Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-09-23-18-34-54.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-09-23-18-34-54.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-09-23-18-34-54.html [19:28] dankie en good night [19:28] gn queery [19:28] cheers queery see you th3 28th [19:29] nag almal [19:29] cheers everyone. thanks kbmonkey [19:29] making the next agenda link now [19:29] thanks for staying tuned cmsch [19:29] thanks for the visit cm [19:29] ai! [19:30] cmsch, you welcome to visit here anytime [19:30] or all the time [19:30] some of us live here [19:30] thanks Kilos: Will do so [19:31] kbmonkey, you sorted the centos install prob yet? [19:32] i gotta fix a broken/crashed kde [19:32] * Kilos hides [19:34] righto, the next agenda link is http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/666/detail/ [19:35] how appropriate for the hallows eve month [19:35] Kilos, hide from that kde! quick! he he [19:36] no hiding from fly and pro [19:36] they said dont fiddle there [19:36] I'll research the qemu a bit on that issue. I can always fall back on software emulation... [19:37] kbmonkey: try LXC (Linux Containers?) [19:38] if you're trying some VMs for dev and tests take a look at Proxmox - easy front end distro for KVM + OpenVZ [19:38] I have an unused HP microserver just sitting here, but for some reason CentOS cant boot off usb - gotta be a spinnign medium :P [19:39] it does not have a optical drive - murpheys law eh ;) [19:39] ya those microservers don't come wif [19:39] what if you use inetbootin kbmonkey [19:40] inet unet i forget [19:40] cool thanks! I will look into LXC and Proxmox! [19:40] I'm sure I've got a ROM drive lying around here somewhere [19:40] I guess its also easy to run Virtualbox headless with the web front end [19:40] depends on your requirements, OpenVZ and LXC are the most lightweight [19:41] good idea Kilos. in fact I could probably setup a syslinux boot that loopback mounts the isos. but yeah... voodoo [19:41] you have the iso use inetbootin to make it work from a stick [19:42] anyway guys. sleep tight [19:42] cya [19:42] right-o Kilos good night [19:42] see ya-all morrow [19:42] kbmonkey: you hackin something tonight? [19:43] nope Vince-0, I was just trying to install CentOS for the LPI stuff [19:45] ag, well CentOS in a VirtualBox will be a sinch [19:45] I used Ubuntu on USB with a microserver once - it was kak slow [19:45] switched to the 250gb hdd that came with it [19:49] oh and I got the plivo and adhearsion pages here, I still need to write up some test apps to see how they integrate. very very interesting stuff [19:50] I *wish* the boss took up my advice to move to a cross-platform free framework. these would have been perfect. [19:51] it's pretty high level functionality, web progs for telephones is awesome [19:52] I'm reading about Django and web design [19:57] I think it is time to listed to some Avatar. [19:58] Got to love them Swedish Metal [19:58] yoh! Can't say I've given 'em a listen [20:03] Vince-0: try Pyramid before you try Django [20:04] for front-end noobs? [20:06] kbmonkey: those Swedes are somthing else. See a band called Ghost [20:08] I like The Haunted [20:08] cool, I'll look them up [20:09] I went to Sweden once, saw Opeth, The Haunted, Children of Bodom and some other scandanavians [20:09] Vince-0: it totally depends on your templating engine... you could use Jinja2 which is nearly identical to Django's templating, or you could use something like Genshi, which is XML-based, or Mako in which you can do some fancy stuff to make your designer's lives easier [20:09] isn't Arch Enemy also Swedish [20:09] wow that is some lineup you saw! [20:10] Arrrrrrrr! Alestorm! [20:10] kbmonkey: Arch Enemy front-lady is Swedish, the rest of the band are Germans. Metaltown 2009 [20:11] * superfly goes out to Ingress for a bit [20:11] cya superfly [20:39] aarrr, falling asleep. bbt [20:40] yeah, that happens. got my chores done