[04:32] <kbmonkey> morning all
[05:11] <Kilos> hi guys
[05:11] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[05:11] <kbmonkey> hello Kilos 
[05:11] <Kilos> ty
[05:11] <kbmonkey> added back agenda items. that site is terrible to use :(
[05:11] <Kilos> fix it
[05:12] <kbmonkey> no you fix it
[05:12] <Kilos> no man i break things
[05:12] <kbmonkey> me too! 
[05:13] <kbmonkey> I am not a web site fixer, that is a different kind of engine to maintain
[05:13] <Kilos> hahaha oh well well have to grab the pro and get him to do some work for a change
[05:14] <kbmonkey> I wonder how one would go on fixing such a thing
[05:14] <kbmonkey> it feels very slow to use as well
[05:14] <Kilos> i have no idea
[05:16] <kbmonkey> when you type paragrpahs into the agenda descriptions, it just lumps all the text into one big wall of text. it ignores all paragraphs.
[05:16] <kbmonkey> lol!
[05:16] <Kilos> All is welcome to speak up should be all are welcome
[05:16] <Kilos> ai!
[05:17] <Kilos> hi space 
[05:17] <kbmonkey> lol thanks Kilos !
[05:18] <kbmonkey> all are fine here
[05:18] <Kilos> haha
[05:18] <Kilos> all is fine here too
[05:18] <kbmonkey> I speak english handsomely since I was twice!
[05:19] <Squirm> morning
[05:19] <Kilos> so you have a holiday today
[05:19] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[05:19] <kbmonkey> hi Squirm `
[05:19] <Kilos> tell me a bit about your weather station
[05:20] <Kilos> where is all the sensing equipment
[05:21] <Kilos> it gives nice info. does it give barometric pressure as well
[05:22] <Squirm> Kilos: http://197.81.54.12/weewx/
[05:22] <Kilos> ty
[05:22] <Squirm> weewx is an opensource weather logging application
[05:22] <Kilos> wow lovely
[05:23] <Squirm> today I'm going to install it on a RPi
[05:23] <Kilos> of software only?
[05:23] <Squirm> weewx is
[05:23] <Squirm> it gets the information every 5 min from the weather stations wireless console
[05:23] <Squirm> and then updates the page every 30
[05:24] <Kilos> where is the weather station
[05:24] <Squirm> http://197.81.54.12/weewx/mobile.html I'm busy modifying that page. going to get it to upload to our schools home page
[05:25] <Kilos> if i remember right you can almost predict a day ahead by checking barometric pressure
[05:25] <Kilos> normally rains a day after a sharp drop in pressure
[05:42] <Kilos> hi Snowy2 
[05:49] <Kilos> hi bduk1 
[06:02] <bduk1> Morning everyone, Kilos 
[06:14]  * Kilos goes to kde for a bit
[06:14] <Kilos> wbb
[06:25] <Kilos> hmm...
[06:26] <Kilos> konversation is so slow to find everyone, whether away or not
[06:26] <Kilos> inetpro: skelm ne
[06:27] <Kilos> lag seker lekker
[06:27] <Kilos> grrr
[06:51] <nocware> Morning everyone
[06:52] <kbmonkey> morning nocware 
[06:53] <nocware> Hey kbmonkey how is everything?
[06:55] <kbmonkey> fine and all. enjoying a quick online collectible card game
[06:56] <nocware> Which one?
[06:57] <kbmonkey> orbsccg. its in beta, if you'd like to try I can send you a referral link and both of us will get a booster pack :)
[06:57] <kbmonkey> don't know if you play ccg's?
[06:58] <kbmonkey> it has an interesting async play method, you have up to 3 days to make a turn
[06:59] <nocware> I haven't played any ccg's but i will try it.
[06:59] <nocware> Send the link! 
[07:00] <kbmonkey> http://orbsccg.com/r/cbgw :)
[07:03] <nocware> Ya. Problem is I'm away from my pc now. But, i've saved the link
[07:04] <kbmonkey> cool - are you on your phone now?
[07:04] <nocware> Yup
[07:04] <kbmonkey> what irc client do you use? 
[07:04] <nocware> AndroIRC
[07:04] <nocware> Really nice
[07:04] <kbmonkey> i'll check that out...
[07:05] <kbmonkey> yey for android :)
[07:05] <nocware> :)
[07:05] <nocware> The android army
[07:05]  * superfly uses QuasselDroid
[07:05] <superfly> but then I run a Quassel core :)
[07:06] <kbmonkey> quassel core? I will google that too
[07:06] <kbmonkey> I tried AndChat, but cant get the hang of irc on a phone
[07:12] <superfly> kbmonkey: quassel is a distributed IRC client
[07:12] <superfly> you run the core on a server somewhere, and then use the client to connect to the core
[07:12] <superfly> so there's the Quassel Client for the desktop, and then QuasselDroid for Android, Quassel2Go for Maemo, etc.
[07:13] <kbmonkey> do you host your own core superfly ?
[07:14] <kbmonkey> hello maiatoday, it's been a while, I hope things are well :)
[07:14] <kbmonkey> hello Vince-0 - also enjoying the day off?
[07:17] <superfly> kbmonkey: i do
[07:17] <kbmonkey> very nice
[07:17] <Vince-0> Giday!
[07:17] <Vince-0> negative, at the office today
[07:17] <superfly> ohai
[07:18] <kbmonkey> I have a shell account I use to irc through so its also online
[07:19] <Vince-0> it would be nice to retrieve the logs for a channel for conversations you may have missed while offline
[07:21] <superfly> Vince-0: that's what makes Quassel so awesome
[07:22] <kbmonkey> cat ~/irclogs/server/channel :)
[07:22] <superfly> kbmonkey: you can download a prebuilt statically linked binary of quassel core that you can run in a shell account with ./quasselcore
[07:23] <kbmonkey> I'll look that up, thanks
[07:24] <Vince-0> I use Quassel client on my winbox
[07:24] <Vince-0> no server tough
[07:24] <Vince-0> though*
[07:25] <kbmonkey> <3 ssh
[07:29] <Vince-0> so everyone got the day off of work except me?
[07:29] <kbmonkey> sorry Vince-0 :(
[07:29] <kbmonkey> we were meant to work too, on the last minute work changed their mind
[07:33] <kbmonkey> it comes down to sitting in front of the pc, coding and listening to music - all I do at work anyway (minus the 100's of meetings)
[07:39] <Vince-0> niiice! I actually have to answer the phone and deal with noobs
[07:45] <roochy> on days like this when I used to work in a NOC I would just watch movies
[07:45] <roochy> let the network monitor itself
[07:45] <roochy> haha
[07:45] <roochy> who feels like troubleshooting ospf on days like this
[07:50] <Kilos> hi roochy nocware superfly Vince-0 
[07:50] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[07:53] <kbmonkey> wb meneer
[07:54] <superfly> hi kbmonkey
[07:55] <superfly> Vince-0: I am at work
[07:55]  * superfly is coding in C again today!
[07:55] <superfly> on an 8-bit microcontroller
[07:57] <kbmonkey> cool! :D
[07:57] <superfly> it is very.
[07:58] <superfly> Anyone want a job coding in C, C++ and Python?
[07:59] <kbmonkey> will relocation be required superfly ?
[07:59] <superfly> yes, but you come to Cape Town
[08:00] <kbmonkey> tempting!
[08:00] <kbmonkey> but not feasible at right this moment
[08:01] <kbmonkey> so its C/++ for the embedded chip and python for the interfacing software?
[08:02] <kbmonkey> or does it actually run python onboard the mp?
[08:03] <superfly> Python on GAE and C/C++ on the two microprocessors
[08:03] <superfly> http://nomanini.com/careers/software-developer
[08:03] <kbmonkey> thanks :)
[08:09] <maiatoday> hi kbmonkey, Kilos
[08:09] <superfly> hi maiatoday
[08:11] <maiatoday> hi superfly
[08:21] <superfly> maiatoday: if you hear of anyone looking for a job, please can you send them my way? we're looking for developers, and we're Ubuntu friendly :-)
[08:24] <Kilos> hi cmsch_ 
[08:24] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[08:29] <Kilos> yay, new choqok working on the tweet place
[08:32] <maiatoday> will do superfly, where are you based again?
[08:35] <superfly> maiatoday: Cape Town CBD
[08:35] <superfly> (the company, though I personally live in Muizenberg)
[08:38] <roochy> Muizenberg is gangster paradise
[08:38] <roochy> million whores around as well
[08:38] <cmsch_> @Kilos Hi there.  Thanks for the welcome.  Sorry, I was away
[08:39] <Kilos> np
[08:39] <superfly> roochy: and you know this because you live there?
[08:39] <roochy> pretty close to muizenberg
[08:39] <roochy> around the corner actually
[08:40] <roochy> where beach front homes go for <14m
[08:41] <roochy> >14m
[08:41] <roochy> lol
[08:45] <Kilos> superfly: how do you see other twitter accounts in choqok
[08:45] <Kilos> theyve autenticated 2 but i see one only
[08:45] <Kilos> you do use choqok hey?
[08:46] <superfly> roochy: and where would that be?
[08:47] <roochy> you gonna stalk me
[08:47] <superfly> roochy: and since you say that Muizenberg is gansta paradise and full of whores, you must either be a gansta or a whore...
[08:47] <superfly> or both 0_o
[08:47] <roochy> that does not make sense
[08:48] <roochy> I used to surf at muizenberg beach when I was a kid
[08:48] <roochy> when the water was kinda clean
[08:48] <roochy> and when I sucked at surfing haha
[08:50] <Kilos> hehe
[09:01] <Kilos> môre inetpro 
[11:04] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[11:09] <nlsthzn> uncle Kilos :) alo
[14:33] <Kilos> hi smile andrewlsd psyatw 
[14:34] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[14:34] <smile> :)
[14:42] <andrewlsd> Hi there
[14:50] <andrewlsd> All quiet on the western front.
[15:03] <Kilos> yeah
[15:04] <Kilos> meeting tonight at 8.30pm guys
[15:11] <Kilos> bbl
[17:20] <superfly> meeting tonight?
[17:20] <superfly> ah, 8:30
[17:20] <superfly> excellent
[17:20] <Kilos> ya
[17:41] <superfly> nlsthzn: did you see the news? http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS
[18:15] <kbmonkey> hallo
[18:15] <captine> Hello
[18:16] <Kilos> hi captine welcome to ubuntu-za
[18:16] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[18:16] <Kilos> haha reak name = ask
[18:16] <Kilos> real
[18:19] <nlsthzn> superfly, doesn't surprise me as they have been totting linux as the next big thing for gaming for a while... but let me read it propperly :)
[18:21] <nlsthzn> oh wow, I am here by accident for the meeting :p
[18:21] <Kilos> hehe
[18:21] <captine> thnx,  saw there was some meeting tonight on the mailing list, so thought I would pop in while I have some time
[18:21]  * nlsthzn just watched "Now you see me"... was ok
[18:22] <kbmonkey> steam os? hmmm, whatever.
[18:22] <nlsthzn> library over a 100 games stromg and growing
[18:23] <nlsthzn> bring it on
[18:23] <kbmonkey> I am disenchanted by steam for many years now
[18:23] <queery> naand
[18:23] <nlsthzn> proper net and steam rocks... anything else and I agree 100%
[18:24] <Kilos> hi queery 
[18:24] <kbmonkey> hi queery
[18:24] <queery> hi oom Kilos 
[18:24] <kbmonkey> hi captine 
[18:24] <queery> hi kbmonkey 
[18:24] <queery> Maaz, coffee on
[18:24]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[18:24] <queery> Maaz, coffee for all
[18:24] <Vince-0> Hi
[18:24] <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already
[18:24]  * nlsthzn has to get the new GladOS announcer pack for dota 2... too funny
[18:25] <kbmonkey> there was that other gaming platform... err I cannot remember the name. You can self publish your games there.
[18:25] <queery> it is meeting tonight right
[18:25] <Kilos> yeah
[18:25] <Kilos> in 5 mins
[18:25] <kbmonkey> that is correct queery 
[18:26] <queery> cool
[18:27] <superfly> kbmonkey: desura?
[18:27] <kbmonkey> cool indeed :)
[18:27] <superfly> You can self-publish on Steam too
[18:27] <kbmonkey> yes it was probably desura, thanks superfly 
[18:28] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for queery!
[18:28] <nlsthzn> Desura held much promise
[18:28] <nlsthzn> bought one game on it...
[18:28] <nlsthzn> Some RTS about Oil
[18:29] <kbmonkey> is nuvolari here tonight?
[18:29] <Kilos> ping him
[18:32] <kbmonkey> maybe he'll pop in a bit later
[18:32] <kbmonkey> shall we start just now?
[18:33] <queery> ok
[18:33] <kbmonkey> right, let me turn on the hamster in maaz's brain
[18:34] <queery> can we please keep to max 1 hour
[18:34] <superfly> I need to get children to bed, so if we start and I register my attendance, then I can be back in about 15 minutes
[18:34] <kbmonkey> sure thing queery and superfly
[18:34] <queery> I though the kids go to bed at 8
[18:34] <kbmonkey> Maaz, start meeting about Monthly Ubuntu-ZA irc meet
[18:34]  * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[18:34]  * nlsthzn switches off dota :(
[18:35] <superfly> Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman
[18:35] <Maaz> superfly: Done
[18:35] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic Welcome
[18:35] <inetpro> Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer
[18:35] <Maaz> inetpro: Yessir
[18:35] <Maaz> Current Topic: Welcome
[18:35]  * superfly exits for the moment
[18:35] <nlsthzn> Maaz, I am Neil Oosthuizen
[18:35] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Righto
[18:35] <Kilos> Maaz, I am Miles Sharpe
[18:35] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto
[18:35] <Vince-0> Maaz: I am Vincent McMan Swart
[18:35] <Maaz> Vince-0: Sure
[18:35] <kbmonkey> what is dota? ;P
[18:35] <kbmonkey> Maaz, I am Wesley Werner
[18:35] <captine>  Maaz I am Bradley Putzier
[18:35] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Yessir
[18:35] <Maaz> captine: Alrighty
[18:35] <queery> Maaz, i am Dewald Noeth lord of Gauteng
[18:35] <Maaz> queery: Alrighty
[18:36] <kbmonkey> Hello everyone and welcome to our Ubuntu ZA irc meeting
[18:36]  * nlsthzn will one day enlighten kbmonkey in dota when he has shown himself worthy...
[18:36] <Kilos> lol
[18:36] <kbmonkey> if you'd like to join then announce your name to our robot Maaz by following our lead
[18:37] <kbmonkey> meanwhile, I'll do the admin bit...
[18:37] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic Previous minutes and Admin
[18:37] <Maaz> Current Topic: Previous minutes and Admin
[18:37] <kbmonkey> The agenda for tonight can be found at: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/645/detail/
[18:38] <kbmonkey> we have a couple of events to mention
[18:38] <kbmonkey> and last time we agreed to move the meeting time to 20:30 (I think that was the second time we agreed to that)
[18:39] <Kilos> yip
[18:39] <kbmonkey> everyone happy with the time so far?
[18:39] <queery> so the kids could be put to bed at 8...
[18:39] <captine> good for me
[18:39]  * nlsthzn is in bed
[18:39] <queery> yea that worked...
[18:39] <kbmonkey> cool!
[18:39]  * inetpro is happy
[18:39] <Kilos> and on time
[18:39] <Kilos> oops
[18:39] <kbmonkey> the other agenda items from last time spawned event topics, so I won't repeat them here
[18:39] <inetpro> eh
[18:40] <nlsthzn> they had kittens
[18:41] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic Event - Software freedom day 2013
[18:41] <Maaz> Current Topic: Event - Software freedom day 2013
[18:41] <queery> \rms
[18:42] <nlsthzn> saw some vids on Youtube looked like a good event
[18:42] <kbmonkey> I want to thank Vince, Una and William for making this happen on the 21st, for Durban that is
[18:42] <queery> JHB one was awesome
[18:42] <Vince-0> so RMS was a bit early for SFD
[18:43] <kbmonkey> nice queery :)
[18:43] <queery> yea but the event was one thing
[18:43] <Vince-0> the Durban talk's video was recorded and will be online eventually
[18:43] <Kilos> pics
[18:43] <kbmonkey> there are some pics floating around from SFD, can we get those onto the ubntu-za site?
[18:44] <queery> depends if we meet the rms requirements heh
[18:44] <Vince-0> here's a kak one I took from the side-lines
[18:44] <Vince-0> http://durbanlinux.org.za/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/IMG_20130906_172543.jpg
[18:44] <superfly> what about uploading them to Flickr or something and then just linking?
[18:44] <kbmonkey> ah cool thanks Vince-0 - am keen for the video of RMS to pass that along
[18:44] <kbmonkey> good idea superfly, they might already be hosted on G+ even
[18:45] <Vince-0> try archive.org see licensing
[18:45] <kbmonkey> hmm, okay I cannot load G+ at this time (maxing out at 1KB/s)
[18:46] <Kilos> ow
[18:46] <kbmonkey> queery, if you find some pics of the JHB sfd please email them to the list :)
[18:47] <queery> will see what I can do
[18:47] <kbmonkey> I'll get what I can from our event and post it on the site at http://ubuntu-za.org/
[18:47] <Kilos> psychicist, you didnt login with maaz did you?
[18:48] <kbmonkey> Maaz, agreed Wesley to post links to SFD pics on http://ubuntu-za.org/
[18:48] <Maaz> Agreed: Wesley to post links to SFD pics on http://ubuntu-za.org/
[18:50] <kbmonkey> and when the RMS talk video is out a link for it will be found on http://durbanlinux.org.za, correct Vince-0? The dlug mailing list (and Ubuntu list) will probably hear of it first though :)
[18:51] <Vince-0> yep, UKZN will probably host it as well, it was about 2 hours long with questions from attendees afterward
[18:52] <kbmonkey> Orsum
[18:52] <Kilos> hi cmsch login with maaz please
[18:52] <Kilos> for the records
[18:52] <kbmonkey> hello cmsch 
[18:52] <queery> JHB one was covered by LetsTalkGeek, will find out where and how they are sharing it
[18:53] <kbmonkey> thanks!
[18:53] <kbmonkey> right, next event...
[18:53] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic Event - PyCon ZA in Cape Town 3+4th October - http://za.pycon.org
[18:54] <Maaz> Current Topic: Event - PyCon ZA in Cape Town 3+4th October - http://za.pycon.org
[18:54] <cmsch> maaz I am Chris Schoonbee
[18:54] <Maaz> cmsch: Yessir
[18:55] <kbmonkey> This sounds amazing, unfortunately I won't be able to join Cape Town for this auspicious event
[18:55] <kbmonkey> anyone from CT here that will be going?
[18:55] <Kilos> nice to see some new faces
[18:56]  * kbmonkey agrees with Kilos 
[18:56] <Kilos> tumbleweed, you lurking?
[18:57] <kbmonkey> wow PyCon has some heavy hitter sponsors
[18:58] <kbmonkey> and the site itself is hosted on GitHub and open for pull requests, now that is quite interesting!
[18:59] <Vince-0> #cpug on shadowfire if I'm not mistaken
[18:59] <Vince-0> I see their pull request announcements in there all day
[18:59] <Vince-0> or is it #ctpug
[18:59] <superfly> kbmonkey: personally I wouldn't grace the site with the time
[19:00] <superfly> Vince-0: #ctpug on Atrum
[19:00] <Vince-0> Atrum! Need to add it here
[19:00] <superfly> kbmonkey: I won't be there, but I'll see if I can find someone else who is
[19:01] <kbmonkey> no worries superfly, was just poking around :)
[19:02] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic House4Hack KZN meet up on Thursday (TBC)
[19:02] <Maaz> Current Topic: House4Hack KZN meet up on Thursday (TBC)
[19:02] <kbmonkey> I thought to just mention this as there is some cross-over interest
[19:02] <queery> didn't know there was a H4H in kzn
[19:03] <kbmonkey> as far as I know the new venue is to be confirmed, 
[19:04] <inetpro> kbmonkey: durban area?
[19:04] <Vince-0> their site is in disrepair: http://kzn.house4hack.co.za/
[19:04] <Vince-0> mail-list here: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/kznhouse4hack
[19:04] <kbmonkey> ah thanks Vince-0 ! I was looking for that
[19:05] <kbmonkey> there we go, a short plug for those interested :)
[19:05] <Vince-0> a more permanent venue will be great, house 3d printer to learn on
[19:06] <Vince-0> maybe some hacker coffee binge events
[19:06] <kbmonkey> indeed!
[19:07] <kbmonkey> I feel very terse tonight :p
[19:07] <queery> please post it on the ubuntu-za site and on ubuntu loco events
[19:08] <queery> as soon as it is confirmed
[19:08] <superfly> if anyone needs access or wants to know if we can expand the site, please don't hesitate to contact me
[19:08] <superfly> PM me if you want my e-mail address
[19:09] <kbmonkey> right, also I believe there is a H4H KZN site coming. 
[19:09] <kbmonkey> thanks superfly
[19:10] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic GNU / Linux studies
[19:10] <Maaz> Current Topic: GNU / Linux studies
[19:10] <kbmonkey> oh thanks again superfly, for getting the studies site back up - you truly are a miracle worker
[19:11] <queery> *someone was listening at the RMS talks
[19:11] <superfly> kbmonkey: heh. Apache was just moaning because I removed some old cruft and forgot to remove the apache config too
[19:11] <kbmonkey> magespawn prompted us to take the studies up again
[19:11] <kbmonkey> the site is at http://linux-studies.za.net
[19:12] <Kilos> and our chat channel is at #linux-studies
[19:12] <kbmonkey> and it says meets are Friday evenings. realistically not everyone will be doing that on a Friday evening, so for the whole of the weekend just come pop into the freenode channel #linux-studies for talk on the LPI material
[19:13] <kbmonkey> I believe we are going for the chapter on partitioning and installing CentOS next
[19:13] <kbmonkey> (but you may use any other distro for the most parts)
[19:13] <Vince-0> so the goal there is to get through LPI1 course entirely?
[19:14] <kbmonkey> that is the goal for some
[19:14] <kbmonkey> the rest also just want to learn, even if you do not plan to write the exams
[19:15] <kbmonkey> hmm, magespawn is not online tonight
[19:15] <Kilos> yeah new job is tiring him out
[19:15] <kbmonkey> shame man
[19:16] <Kilos> heel get used to it, syas maybe 6 months then things will settle down
[19:16] <Kilos> says
[19:16] <kbmonkey> right, events I have left out?
[19:16] <queery> what about release parties
[19:16] <queery> anyone willing to organise some?
[19:17] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic Ubuntu 13.10 release parties
[19:17] <Maaz> Current Topic: Ubuntu 13.10 release parties
[19:17] <inetpro> when is the release date again?
[19:17] <kbmonkey> gee, I am not sure about that
[19:17] <superfly> sometime in October? :-P
[19:17] <kbmonkey> ^ that XD
[19:18] <Kilos> hehe
[19:18] <kbmonkey> usually nearer the end of the month
[19:18] <queery> don't see an official one yet
[19:18] <inetpro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule
[19:18] <queery> oh October 17th
[19:19] <queery> but we can alway schedual it a week or 2 later
[19:19] <kbmonkey> thanks queery 
[19:19] <queery> kk
[19:19] <inetpro> that means it will be released before our next meeting?
[19:20] <kbmonkey> that is 10 days before the next meeting
[19:20] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:20] <queery> jip
[19:21] <queery> still say hild it first weekend in Nov
[19:21] <queery> enough time to sort the bugs and get repos built
[19:21] <kbmonkey> that is also possible
[19:21] <kbmonkey> that will get resolved via the list 
[19:22] <inetpro> good idea
[19:22] <queery> jip
[19:22] <kbmonkey> Maaz, agreed to plan Ubuntu 13.10 (17 Oct) release parties for the first week in November
[19:22] <Maaz> Agreed: to plan Ubuntu 13.10 (17 Oct) release parties for the first week in November
[19:23] <kbmonkey> if it comes down to some folks wanting to have one sooner, then all the better 
[19:23] <kbmonkey> heck, two parties is better than one
[19:23] <kbmonkey> is/are
[19:23] <queery> jip
[19:23] <inetpro> arr
[19:24] <kbmonkey> magic
[19:24] <queery> huh?
[19:24] <kbmonkey> well I think that is our meeting
[19:24] <queery> cool
[19:25] <kbmonkey> 1 hour as requested :)
[19:25] <Kilos> thanks kbmonkey and all who attended
[19:25] <kbmonkey> hang on
[19:25] <kbmonkey> Maaz, topic closing and elect next chair
[19:25] <Maaz> Current Topic: closing and elect next chair
[19:25]  * Kilos votes kbmonkey 
[19:26] <Kilos> just keep the sight working
[19:26] <kbmonkey> yessir
[19:26] <inetpro> +1 for kbmonkey
[19:26] <kbmonkey> Have anything to add? All is welcome to speak up. And elect the next meeting chair
[19:26]  * queery seconds
[19:27] <kbmonkey> cool bananas - thanks all for your time 
[19:27] <Kilos> lets give him some karma
[19:27] <Kilos> Maaz, kbmonkey ++
[19:27] <queery> Maaz, kbmonkey ++
[19:28] <Vince-0> thanks kbmonkey
[19:28] <kbmonkey> Maaz, agreed kbmonkey to chair the next meeting (28 Oct)
[19:28] <Maaz> Agreed: kbmonkey to chair the next meeting (28 Oct)
[19:28] <kbmonkey> Rocktober
[19:28] <kbmonkey> Maaz, end meeting
[19:28] <Maaz> Meeting Ended
[19:28] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-09-23-18-34-54.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-09-23-18-34-54.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-09-23-18-34-54.html
[19:28] <queery> dankie en good night
[19:28] <kbmonkey> gn queery 
[19:28] <Kilos> cheers queery see you th3 28th
[19:29] <queery> nag almal
[19:29] <cmsch> cheers everyone. thanks kbmonkey
[19:29] <kbmonkey> making the next agenda link now
[19:29] <kbmonkey> thanks for staying tuned cmsch 
[19:29] <Kilos> thanks for the visit cm
[19:29] <Kilos> ai!
[19:30] <Kilos> cmsch, you welcome to visit here anytime
[19:30] <Kilos> or all the time
[19:30] <Kilos> some of us live here
[19:30] <cmsch> thanks Kilos: Will do so
[19:31] <Kilos> kbmonkey, you sorted the centos install prob yet?
[19:32] <Kilos> i gotta fix a broken/crashed kde
[19:32]  * Kilos hides
[19:34] <kbmonkey> righto, the next agenda link is http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/666/detail/
[19:35] <kbmonkey> how appropriate for the hallows eve month
[19:35] <kbmonkey> Kilos, hide from that kde! quick! he he
[19:36] <Kilos> no hiding from fly and pro
[19:36] <Kilos> they said dont fiddle there
[19:36] <kbmonkey> I'll research the qemu a bit on that issue. I can always fall back on software emulation...
[19:37] <Vince-0> kbmonkey: try LXC (Linux Containers?)
[19:38] <Vince-0> if you're trying some VMs for dev and tests take a look at Proxmox - easy front end distro for KVM + OpenVZ 
[19:38] <kbmonkey> I have an unused HP microserver just sitting here, but for some reason CentOS cant boot off usb - gotta be a spinnign medium :P
[19:39] <kbmonkey> it does not have a optical drive - murpheys law eh ;)
[19:39] <Vince-0> ya those microservers don't come wif
[19:39] <Kilos> what if you use inetbootin kbmonkey 
[19:40] <Kilos> inet unet i forget
[19:40] <kbmonkey> cool thanks! I will look into LXC and Proxmox!
[19:40] <Vince-0> I'm sure I've got a ROM drive lying around here somewhere
[19:40] <Vince-0> I guess its also easy to run Virtualbox headless with the web front end
[19:40] <Vince-0> depends on your requirements, OpenVZ and LXC are the most lightweight
[19:41] <kbmonkey> good idea Kilos. in fact I could probably setup a syslinux boot that loopback mounts the isos. but yeah... voodoo
[19:41] <Kilos> you have the iso use inetbootin to make it work from a stick
[19:42] <Kilos> anyway guys. sleep tight
[19:42] <Vince-0> cya
[19:42] <kbmonkey> right-o Kilos good night
[19:42] <Kilos> see ya-all morrow
[19:42] <Vince-0> kbmonkey: you hackin something tonight?
[19:43] <kbmonkey> nope Vince-0, I was just trying to install CentOS for the LPI stuff
[19:45] <Vince-0> ag, well CentOS in a VirtualBox will be a sinch 
[19:45] <Vince-0> I used Ubuntu on USB with a microserver once - it was kak slow
[19:45] <Vince-0> switched to the 250gb hdd that came with it
[19:49] <kbmonkey> oh and I got the plivo and adhearsion pages here, I still need to write up some test apps to see how they integrate. very very interesting stuff
[19:50] <kbmonkey> I *wish* the boss took up my advice to move to a cross-platform free framework. these would have been perfect.
[19:51] <Vince-0> it's pretty high level functionality, web progs for telephones is awesome
[19:52] <Vince-0> I'm reading about Django and web design
[19:57] <kbmonkey> I think it is time to listed to some Avatar. 
[19:58] <kbmonkey> Got to love them Swedish Metal
[19:58] <Vince-0> yoh! Can't say I've given 'em a listen
[20:03] <superfly> Vince-0: try Pyramid before you try Django
[20:04] <Vince-0> for front-end noobs?
[20:06] <Vince-0> kbmonkey: those Swedes are somthing else. See a band called Ghost
[20:08] <Vince-0> I like The Haunted
[20:08] <kbmonkey> cool, I'll look them up
[20:09] <Vince-0> I went to Sweden once, saw Opeth, The Haunted, Children of Bodom and some other scandanavians
[20:09] <superfly> Vince-0: it totally depends on your templating engine... you could use Jinja2 which is nearly identical to Django's templating, or you could use something like Genshi, which is XML-based, or Mako in which you can do some fancy stuff to make your designer's lives easier
[20:09] <kbmonkey> isn't Arch Enemy also Swedish
[20:09] <kbmonkey> wow that is some lineup you saw!
[20:10] <superfly> Arrrrrrrr! Alestorm!
[20:10] <Vince-0> kbmonkey: Arch Enemy front-lady is Swedish, the rest of the band are Germans. Metaltown 2009
[20:11]  * superfly goes out to Ingress for a bit
[20:11] <Vince-0> cya superfly
[20:39] <Vince-0> aarrr, falling asleep. bbt
[20:40] <kbmonkey> yeah, that happens. got my chores done