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solaruinheh, ok, so i may have broke this pretty nicely, but its no worse than it was before00:00
solaruinso i got an error 17 from grub when loading00:00
solaruinso i just reinstalled grub, thinking everything would be fine00:00
solaruinso when i reloaded it, its just the grub prompt, and it wants me to tell it where the kernel is00:00
wilee-nileesolaruin, Context?00:00
solaruinhow the hell do i find the kernel :p00:00
Dr_Willisreinstalled grub how?00:00
solaruinused a live disk00:01
Dr_Willisyou should have used the boot-repair tool - i imagine00:01
daftykinswhy are the most useful technical posts (wilee-nilee's UEFI forum link) written by non-English speakers so they're hard to understand =|00:01
solaruinprobably :p00:01
wilee-nileesolaruin, That tool generates a script that is quite helpful.00:01
solaruinwhich, the boot-repair tool?00:02
arayaqdaftykins: link?00:02
Dr_Willis!fixgrub00:02
solaruini only need to get into it once so i can get the files i need. any way i can find the kernal from the grub menu?00:02
OerHeksdaftykins, you might want to learn french http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/uefi00:02
solaruini can do that from the grub menu?00:03
daftykinsarayaq: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214729500:03
daftykinsOerHeks: no thanks00:03
solaruinnope. so from the live disk then i assume00:03
wilee-nileesolaruin, you can manual boot, use supergrub, or use the bootrepair app, your choice really.00:04
solaruini'd like to manual boot. all i need to do is give it the kernel location, and t ell it to boot. i just dont know where the kernel is00:04
genoobieI was looking at the docs on ubuntu to install the b43 driver without internet00:05
usuariohello Im charo00:05
genoobiebut there's no documentation for 13.0400:05
genoobiewould this be the same cl in 13.04? tar xfvj broadcom-wl-5.10.56.27.3_mipsel.tar.bz2 sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware broadcom-wl-5.10.56.27.3/driver/wl_apsta/wl_prebuilt.o00:05
arayaqgenoobie: There are some debs packed in the ISO for that, do you have the ISO around?00:06
wilee-nileeusuario, lets here some flamenco. ;)00:06
usuarioI would like improve my english00:06
genoobiearayaq yes00:06
wilee-nileehear*00:06
genoobieit's on a usb stick00:06
genoobiethe live version anyone00:06
genoobieanyhow00:06
genoobienot sure how to extract that from the usb00:07
wilee-nilee!enter | genoobie00:07
ubottugenoobie: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!00:07
arayaqgenoobie: ok. Give mea second to get you the right path00:07
masakaHi everyone, i have a problem with 13.04. I can no longer login as my user to Unity or Gnome classic; guest session works, though. Ctrl_Shift+F1 terminal session also works00:08
genoobiearayaq: it's lubuntu00:09
usuarioIḿ new usuary and I dont know what is this exactly00:11
arayaqgenoobie: ok. First install the dkms module. In the USB is in pool/main/d/dksm/. Then install the driver in /pool/restricted/b/bcmwl/00:11
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Dr_Willismasaka:  login at console.  check the owner of the .Xauthority file (move/rename it if you want)  most likely Some setting file is causing the  issue. You can move them to some Backup Directory00:12
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Dr_Willisbut the .Xauthority file is a common issue00:12
OerHeksDr_Willis +1 thinking the same issue, it is owned now by root:root if i recall00:13
masakaPermissions on .Xauthority are 600, owner is myself00:13
Dr_Willisyou can move/rename it just in case.  it will get remade00:14
Dr_Willisand move you rother config files to some backup dir if you want to be sure. :)00:14
masakaDr_Willis: yes, moving the file got me in. Thanks!00:15
Dr_Willisi Belive that file gets the wrong info due to use of sudo instead of sudo00:19
Dr_Willisoops sudo instead of Gksudo00:19
twobitspriteif I buy software from ubuntu software-center, but  I'm not running ubuntu, will I still be able to download it?00:19
* daftykins docks Dr_Willis' wages00:19
twobitsprite(I'm running linux mint, so I don't know if I should ask here or in the mint channel :P)00:20
somsip!mint | twobitsprite00:20
ubottutwobitsprite: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org00:20
masakaDr_Willis: the only "sudo" command that I ran yesterday was "sudo shutdown -h now", is this something risky?00:21
Flanneltwobitsprite: You should ask in the mint channel.  It depends on whether mint has maintained compatibility with that particular package (library versions, etc)00:21
SonikkuAmericaOK, I did as y'all suggested previously, do I need to set a device to put GRUB in?00:21
pfrazeworking on a cli tool, am wondering: what are the benefits of using argv versus environment flags (eg PORT=8000 myprogram)?00:22
twobitspriteWell, my question isn't necessarily about compatibility with mint, I can figur that out... I'm just asking about the logistics of downloading packages from ubuntu software center that I purchased00:23
pfrazein c, argv is much more accessible, but this is a nodejs script, so it's actually easier to access the environment variables00:23
SonikkuAmericaTo clarify, on my potential Ubuntu 13.04 (64-bit) install on a UEFI machine dual-booting with Windows 8, do I need to set a separate partition for GRUB, or not?00:23
FloodBot1!netsplit00:24
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit00:24
* dharmaturtle noms popcorn00:24
SonikkuAmericaTo clarify, on my potential Ubuntu 13.04 (64-bit) install on a UEFI machine dual-booting with Windows 8, do I need to set a separate partition for GRUB, or not?00:24
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twobitspriteSonikkuAmerica: grub doesn't need it's own partition... do you mean a /boot partition?00:26
SonikkuAmericatwobitsprite: Possibly. I should rephrase: Do I need to mess with the "Device for bootloader installation" combo box, or is the default correct for UEFI?00:27
twobitspriteSonikkuAmerica: I'm not sure if UEFI cares... I have servers are work with UEFI and they just have grub installed in the MBR and have a single partition00:28
SonikkuAmericatwobitsprite: Well if it's called the MBR, then it's not UEFI.00:28
twobitspritebut then again, they're booting over iSCSI...00:28
FreederHello. is there a way to see what shares an nfs server is offering, locally? I just set up an nfs server (or so I think) but can't connect to it from my client machine. How would I start to troubleshoot this?00:29
twobitspriteUEFI supports standard/classic PC disk partition labels.00:29
SonikkuAmericatwobitsprite: Well, that answered it. :)00:30
twobitspriteSonikkuAmerica: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Disk_device_compatibility00:31
SonikkuAmericatwobitsprite: Well, I know it supports GPT (which is what I'm using). Thanks for the help though.00:32
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zippo^is ppa stable too?00:36
twobitspriteFreeder: I would start by making sure the NFS daemons are running, then check netstat/rpcinfo to see what ports they're running on and check iptables to make sure those ports are open00:36
twobitsprite(including portmapper, which should be running on port 111)00:37
wskyhey, how do i maximize windows in unity?00:50
wskyi mean, with keybard.00:50
wskyshortcuts.00:50
Dr_Willispress and hold the SUPER key to see a list of common actions00:51
genoobiedo you have to sudo dpkg?00:53
wskyDr_Willis: cool, thx00:53
FreederI have two web servers behind my NAT. server A is currently exposed to the world on port 80. I mounted web server B's content on server A at /var/www/B . However, when I surf to that location, it attempts to make me download a php file, instead of view it in the browser ( I can view it fine surfing directly to server B). Any thoughts on why that doesn't work?00:55
FreederI don't know much about web serving00:55
Dr_Williscould be theres some sort of security/permissions wrong. or the server is not following mounts or links. You might want to ask in #apache if thats what you are using00:56
Freederperms all match up, and the file being served is the one that I should be viewing, not downloading.00:56
Freederthanks00:56
FreederI'll ask there as well00:56
Freederbut everything 'looks' just like B, on A00:56
genoobieugh00:59
genoobieI am stuck00:59
rypervenchegenoobie: What's up?01:02
Thorium220hi, newbie here needs a hand. anyone around?01:04
rypervenche!ask | Thorium22001:05
ubottuThorium220: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience01:05
Thorium220danke01:05
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bluedogslimHello all01:06
bluedogslimI love ubuntu01:06
bluedogslimPretty cool os01:06
sjlsjlanyone available to help with a PCIe SATA card driver issue?  01:07
bluedogslimsjlsjl - did try installing the latest kernel?01:07
sjlsjli've got the latest in 12.04.3 LTS01:07
Thorium220I have a robot running ubuntu server 12.blah, and I need to install VNC on it. I have the appropriate .deb file, but I ws wondering what the best way to go about installing it is? The robot doesn't have an internet connection, and the only way I can get anything to/from it is via SSH from my laptop. I'm rather inexperienced and don't want to bugger things up (again).01:08
bluedogslimI just downloaded the latest kernel in 13.04 and it fixed all my issues01:08
sjlsjlBought it partly because they advertized built in support in 2.6.31+ - I'm on 3.8.0 so it should be new enough01:08
bluedogslimYou guys have any luck getting scanners to work in all in one printers?01:13
petergunnmy old Hp c7280 all-in-one worked with xsane over network01:14
petergunnwith hplip01:14
petergunnand hp toolbox01:14
bluedogslimYa01:14
bluedogslimI have a canon01:14
bluedogslimI can't seem to get the scannner working01:14
bluedogslimI will play with it at work tomorrow01:15
petergunnyah not sure about that - I have a Brother all-in-one ow but I havent tried scanning01:15
HappyNewYear13is the last Firefox, version 24, acting funny for you guys too?01:16
bluedogslimpetergunn - how did you install the drivers on the brother?01:16
petergunnI installed the .debs from the Brother website01:17
HappyNewYear13is the last Firefox, version 24, acting funny for you guys too?01:17
bluedogslimPetergunn - did you use the terminal to install?01:17
HappyNewYear13what's the channel where all the ubuntu ops get together?01:17
wilee-nileeHappyNewYear13, This channel works with you addressing the actual issues.01:18
HappyNewYear13wilee-nilee, i have another question for them, something that happened in the past01:18
TuxBlackEdohey, i am trying to make a script execute only on startup, but it also executes on shutdown, how do i fix that? I used "update-rc.d myscript defaults"01:18
wilee-nilee#ubuntu-ops01:18
HappyNewYear13thanks wilee-nilee01:18
wilee-nileenp01:18
SoftFeta264 s!01:19
lucknerjbexit01:19
HappyNewYear13who here knows bahzang? what happened to him?01:19
SoftFetadead01:19
HappyNewYear13or bazhang01:19
HappyNewYear13i don't remember how to spell his nickname, but really  where is bazhang01:20
HappyNewYear13did he change his nickname?01:20
wilee-nileeHappyNewYear13, this is not support stuff take it to the opd channel.01:20
wilee-nileeopps*01:20
dharmaturtleDoes anyone know a preferred Rescue LiveCD/USB?01:21
wilee-nileedharmaturtle, For?01:21
dharmaturtlelost a bunch of text files. Hoping to get them back. Original OS was Ubuntu.01:21
wilee-nileedharmaturtle, testdisk is commonly used01:22
petergunnblueslimdog: cant remember - it was either via nautilus or command like using alien01:22
petergunnhttp://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_scn.html#brscan401:23
petergunnwas the scanner download01:23
bluedogslimI gotta check the support for my printer.01:25
bluedogslimHow do you guys pick new hardware?  Like printers? Isn't the support weak for  linux drivers on some models?01:26
petergunnI bought a Brother MFCJ430W because of the cheap ink and manufacturer Linux support01:29
petergunnprinter was under $5001:29
petergunnink is super cheap - 24 for ~$1501:30
petergunnprint quality is only ok tho - nut that fine for me01:30
UnHolyTerrorI buy HP printers.01:35
Dr_Willisive switched to Brother also. HP gave me too many issues in the past few years01:36
Dr_WillisIt pays to research befor you buy.01:36
linuxuz3rhi01:39
Pernicious-Tainthi01:39
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hugokHey whats up guys?01:43
Pernicious-Tainthi!01:44
hugokIm manually partitioning a 40GB into "/" "/home" and 'swap", how many gigs each?01:44
Dr_Willisjust 40gb? Id just use a / and swap01:45
hugokalso, should the "/" be a phyisical partition or logical?01:45
Dr_WillisUnless you know how much space you will be needing01:45
Dr_WillisPRIMARY or logical - dosent matter01:45
Dr_Willis;)01:45
Dr_Willisi use all primaries if i can in most cases01:45
hugokhow does 10gb "/", 27.9 gb "/home", and 2.1gb "swap" sound?01:46
Dr_Willis10gb for / would be WAY to tiny for my rather basic needs01:46
hugokhmmm01:46
Dr_Willisit would be workable.. if you kept track of what you where doing01:46
hugokwhat exactly does / do?01:46
Dr_Willis  / holds everything01:46
hugokcompared to /home?01:47
Dr_Willisincluding /tmp /var/ /var/apt/cache (shich is like 2 gb for me right now)01:47
Dr_Willis   / is the 'root' of the whole filesystem01:47
Dr_Williswhats not in /home/ will be in /01:47
hugokso like 1/2 & 1/2 /home vs /01:47
hugok?01:47
Dr_Willisfor 30gb.. id do it all to / and swap. but you lose the benifits of a seperate /home/ but face it with JUST 30gb// you can backup your whole system to a $15 flash drive.01:48
hugokits 40gb01:48
hugokbut still, i see01:48
Dr_WillisI got a 3TB hd just for my /home/ ;)01:49
hugoklol, the 40 was the biggest HDD i could get for free01:49
hugokits IDE01:49
hugokand has max transfer speed of like 20 Mb/s01:49
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hugokits only the OS so my server file transfer wont be too bad01:50
Dr_Willislets just say that if / fills up.. it really really sucks. ;)01:50
Dr_Willisif /home/ fills up.. the users are annoyed.. but the system should stillwork. ;)01:50
Dr_Willisi always use at least 20-30 for / if i can.01:51
Dr_Willisits also fairly easy to setup a external USB for the users to use as part of their /home/ if you want01:51
hugokyeah, I was thinking that01:51
hugokis there a way to resize a partition without screwing everything?01:52
hugoklike in 6 months or so when I realize you are right01:52
Dr_Willisgparted can resize01:53
hugokoh yeah01:53
Dr_Willisbut with such small partions. it may be faster to just backup01:53
Nothing_MuchIs there any status on XMir on Armel?01:53
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bluedogslimAny suggestions for getting a good covert art browers for mp3s?  Should I use rythmn box? Or another mp3 player?01:56
Nothing_MuchIs there any status on XMir on Armel?01:57
hugokI don't know01:58
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hugokman I used to be so scared about partitioning now im doing it left-handed while eating ribs and playing cs01:59
hugokRaid)!01:59
Dr_Willisfrom what ive seen in here.. :) best to stay away from raid.02:00
Dr_Willisand of course always make backups02:00
hugokis raid a bad thing?02:00
Dr_WillisI need to write up a Top Lessos learned in #ubuntu ;)02:00
Dr_Willishugok:  if you dont understand what raid is doing.. and it breaks. ;) it can be a very tough learning experience02:00
Dr_Williswhen in doubt. keep things simple02:01
hugokWell I know Raid0 breaks everything if it breaks, but its nothing critical really02:01
hugokjust a home movie streming server02:01
hugokon a budget of 002:01
hugokmake that -002:01
Dr_Willisabout every pc i got in the house - works as a dlna server :)02:02
Dr_Willisseveral rasperry pis. android devicves. even the router02:03
hugokandroids?02:03
hugokwhat do they do?02:03
hugokAw frick now its asking me which kernel I want02:04
hugokthere's like 30 options02:04
hugokactually more like 7002:04
hugokjesus02:04
hugokgood thing there is a 'none' option :)02:05
zippo^hugok!! Wi-Fi works great now (-:02:05
hugokzippo^, sweet, what did you do?02:06
zippo^hugok: http://askubuntu.com/questions/345608/sorry-installation-of-this-driver-failed-please-have-a-look-at-the-log-file-f02:06
hugokhuh, interesting02:06
hugokgood thing you got that working :)02:07
zippo^i was searching long. i am very happy that it works now02:07
cratolahi02:09
cratolaI need to increase ulimit -n02:09
cratolaI have updated /etc/security/limits.conf but it's not taking effect02:09
benklophey everyone, i'm running into a strange apt issue02:11
benklopand im not sure what is going on02:11
qythaha02:12
benklopit seems like no packages in 'main' are getting loaded by any package manager02:12
benklopbut main is in my sources.list02:12
benklopand i have no failures during update02:12
qytkankan02:12
rrmhello peeps, how long will 10.04.4 LTS be supported?02:13
cratolacan anyone help me with ulimit -n?02:14
kostkonrrm, server till apr 201502:14
cratolaU've tried like 3 times02:14
cratolaI can't restart production *again*02:14
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bluedogslimWhat is the best music player for ubuntu?02:15
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bluedogslimANy suggestions?02:15
kostkon!poll | bluedogslim02:15
ubottubluedogslim: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.02:15
bluedogslimAny suggestions?02:15
benklopbluedogslim: i really enjoy clementine, but ubottu is right02:15
bluedogslimok02:15
bluedogslimthats cool02:15
benklopbluedogslim: you should look on alternativeto if you want to have a decent list of choices.. thats what I do usually02:16
rrm@kostkon how about desktop?02:16
kostkonrrm, desktop version has already expired, not supported any more02:16
kostkonrrm, you should upgrade to 12.0402:17
bluedogslimTo be honest I love rythmn box02:17
bluedogslimI just want something better for cover art02:17
bluedogslimI love ubuntu02:17
qyt....02:17
renzomhi everyone, back in my windows days i was a MediaMonkey fanboy, specially for its tagging capabilities. What tagging software would you recommend as a linux alternative?02:18
cratolaso does anyone know how to increase ulimit?02:19
qytI can not use the irc xchat package wireshark capture02:20
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moes12.04-lts...unity..How to change cursor on desktop02:21
Dr_Willismoes:  ive seen people have issues changeing that for all apps.02:22
kostkonrenzom, easytag kid3 puddletag picard02:22
Dr_Willismoes:  you may wan tto check on askubuntu.com for whats the best way02:22
moesDr_Willis, I have already gone that route with no sucess02:23
Dr_Willismoes:  Yep. its just one of those buggy areas. its never worked well for several releases i recall.02:25
benklopbluedogslim: there are a number of utilities to help you download and manage cover art and metadata for your music collection, picard being one option. it might be a bit too much though - it's more for serious metadata management...02:25
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renzomkostkon, benklop thanks for your answers, i'll try them out! :)02:30
renzomoops benklop wasn't answering me, but it helped too :) thanks anyway02:31
benkloprenzom: for what you are mentioning, picard is nice since it can potentially automate a large part of the process02:32
benklopbut it takes a while to learn to use02:32
benklopand it gets all its data using audio fingerprints and  musicbrainz DB info02:32
benklopno prob! :)02:32
renzombenklop: if it is not too much asking, what's your player of choice? I'm now with guayadeque (i spell it different every time), but i'm looking to test some others02:36
benkloprenzom: i use clementine mostly02:37
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ubuntuclear02:37
benkloprenzom: but i used picard primarily to clean up all my data so i could upload to google music and have useful art and tagging on my phone02:38
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renzombenklop: i think i tried it a while a go, i'll give it a chance02:38
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benkloprenzom: its not bad, honestly i like it because it mostly stays out of my way, but still isnt too minimal02:39
benkloprenzom: it's based on the old versions of amarok02:39
benklopbefore they did their rewrite a number of years ago02:39
Guest9161Hi, I have 3 other machines running windows and I would like to make periodic backup of some folders there. Do you know how can I simply do that? ( I am aware of backup tools like bacula, but I am looking for something simpler.)02:39
genoobiehey all02:39
renzombenklop: sounds good :)02:39
genoobietrying to get my wireless working without internet02:40
genoobieI've got the b43-fwcutter installed02:40
genoobieand I've unpacked the tarball02:40
genoobieI'm not quite sure how to proceed with the CL02:40
genoobiethe CL I am experimenting with is02:40
genoobiesudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware broadcom-wl-5.10.56.27.3/driver/wl_apsta/wl_prebuilt.o02:41
hugokhey genoobie !02:41
genoobiehey hugok02:41
hugokyou're back02:41
genoobieyep02:41
hugokany troubles?02:41
genoobieworking on my wireless card install02:41
genoobieI'm so close I can taste it :)02:41
genoobieyes02:41
genoobieof course.  I tried following the guide here02:41
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mojtabaHi, I have 3 other machines running windows and I would like to make periodic backup of some folders there. Do you know how can I simply do that? ( I am aware of backup tools like bacula, but I am looking for something simpler.)02:42
genoobiehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx02:42
Dr_Willisgenoobie:  so you unpacked stuff and it made a broadcom-wl-5.1*  type directory/path?02:42
genoobieDr_Willis: yes02:42
Dr_Willisgenoobie:  so you used that command and change it to reflect the proper path to the extracted files? The version #'s can often change02:42
genoobieI have a ~/Desktop/b43-fwcutter/broadcom-wl-5.100.13802:42
genoobieDr_Willis: that's where I am having a bit of trouble02:43
camilonghelp me02:43
Dr_Willisuse the tab key to complete the paths.02:43
genoobiethe broadcom folder has two dirs02:43
genoobieconfig and linux02:43
genoobieand the linux dir has 3 .o files02:43
genoobieI'm not sure which one to point to02:43
camilongconfiguration  wi fi  usb02:43
Dr_Willisone is named wl_prebuilt.o  ?02:43
genoobieI'm also not sure if anything should be in the /lib/firmware directory02:43
camilongnot recognition02:43
genoobieDr_Willis: no02:43
varun_genoobie, have you confirmed what chip your card uses? Are you sure it uses b43?02:44
genoobievarun_: yes02:44
Dr_Williscould be you got an  differnt archive then what you needed.02:44
genoobieno, the guide is for 12.0402:44
genoobieI have 13.0402:44
genoobiewhen I followed guide02:44
genoobieit wanted this firmware02:44
varun_genoobie, so which card is it?02:44
mojtabaHi, I have 3 other machines running windows  in a LAN and I would like to make periodic backup of some folders there. Do you know how can I simply do that? ( I am aware of backup tools like bacula, but I am looking for something simpler.)02:45
genoobiebcm431802:45
camilong 13.0402:45
varun_genoobie, all the b43 firmware files go into /lib/firmware, but your description looks a bit confusing02:45
genoobiewell02:46
varun_genoobie, actually /lib/firmware/b4302:46
genoobieI'm confused then02:46
Dr_Willis!find broadcom-sta-dkms02:46
ubottuFound: broadcom-sta-dkms02:46
genoobiebecause I followed the guide more or less02:46
lagboxso i see the upgrade to 13.10 ... anyone against me upgrading to the beta at the moment ?02:46
Dr_Willis!info broadcom-sta-dkms02:46
ubottubroadcom-sta-dkms (source: broadcom-sta): dkms source for the Broadcom STA Wireless driver. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 5.100.82.112-9 (raring), package size 2155 kB, installed size 6040 kB02:46
varun_genoobie, where have you got this folder from - ~/Desktop/b43-fwcutter/broadcom-wl-5.100.13802:47
genoobiehttp://www.lwfinger.com/b43-firmware/broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz202:47
varun_genoobie, Dr_Willis, that card won't work with the sta driver, only with b4302:47
genoobieDr_Willis: it's not the "STA"02:47
genoobievarun02:47
genoobieso basically I followed the directions for 12.0402:48
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Dr_Willisi dident see him list a specific card. )02:48
genoobiebut subbed in 13.04 links02:48
genoobiefirst step was this02:48
genoobiesudo dpkg -i b43-fwcutter*02:48
genoobieso I installed b43-fwcutter02:48
varun_genoobie, it says "wl-5.100.138.." which I perfectly remember to be a sta driver version, that's why I say it was confusing..02:49
genoobievarun_: hey, you know more then I do02:49
genoobieso I got the wrong tarball02:49
varun_genoobie, do you have internet connection on that machine ?02:49
genoobieno02:49
genoobiebut I can move a tarball to it02:49
Dr_Willishttp://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-5.10.56.27.3_mipsel.tar.bz2 is this the arvhive you need?02:49
Dr_Willisb43 (12.04 Precise Pangolin)02:50
genoobieyeah but I have 13.0402:50
genoobiedidn't know if that firmware was going to work02:50
varun_genoobie, have you also attempted the sta driver? We'll have to remove it first if you had.02:50
genoobieno not yet02:50
mojtabaHi, I have 3 other machines running windows  in a LAN and I would like to make periodic backup of some folders there. Do you know how can I simply do that? ( I am aware of backup tools like bacula, but I am looking for something simpler.)02:51
k0ff33I'm trying to set up racoon.02:51
Dr_Willismojtaba:  rsync and a cron job02:51
k0ff33but I get check and compare ids wrong02:51
genoobieso02:51
k0ff33 DEBUG: check and compare ids : value mismatch (IPv4_subnet)02:51
genoobieDr_Willis: will that tarball work with 13.04?02:51
genoobieor varun?02:51
genoobievarun_: I mean02:51
Dr_Willisgenoobie:  no idea. I dont see why the Firmware would matter02:51
TradeFortress/etc/security/limits.conf is not taking any effect02:51
varun_genoobie, all you need is the firmware file, which is included in the nonfree firmware package. Download this package from here : http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/all/linux-firmware-nonfree/download02:51
genoobievarun_: I loaded that too02:52
mojtabaDr_Willis: Could you please let me know how can I have access to the windows partition? I will check man rsync later.02:52
varun_sorry, my time-lag here is 25+ seconds :(02:52
genoobiewhen I dpkg'ed that I wonder if it put the firmware in the directory?02:52
Dr_Willismojtaba:  setup a windows share. and  mount it from the linux machines02:52
varun_genoobie, linux-firmware-nonfree ?02:52
Dr_Willismojtaba:  or setup a ftp server,  if you want to go old skool02:52
genoobieyes02:52
mojtabaDr_Willis: Do you know how can I have access to c$? because windows partitions are shared by default!02:53
genoobievarun_: I already had downloaded that02:53
genoobieI just haven't properly executed the b43-fwcutter command02:53
genoobieI don't know the path to the firmware02:53
Dr_Willisi dident think you needed the fwcutter if you installed that package02:53
varun_genoobie, check with "ls /lib/firmware/b43" ... that directory doesn't exist by default02:53
genoobieyes, there is a folder there02:54
varun_genoobie, Dr_Willis is right. b43-fwcutter does the same thing as the nonfree package, just in a different way..02:54
genoobiethere's a ton of ".fw" files02:54
mojtabaDr_Willis: Do you know how can I have access to c$? because windows partitions are shared by default!02:54
genoobieso now what?02:54
Dr_Willisthat package (look at its contents with mc)  has  /lib/firmware/b43 and a LOT of other .fw files02:55
genoobieyes02:55
Dr_Willismojtaba:  a share with $ is special i belive.    Id make a 'backups' share. and use it.02:55
varun_genoobie, then do - "sudo modprobe -rv b43"... then ... "sudo modprobe -v b43" .... then check - "dpkg | grep b43" ........ are there any firmware errors?02:55
Dr_Willis!samba02:56
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.02:56
mojtabaDr_Willis: You mean I make a backup at the windows machine and share it?02:56
Dr_Willismojtaba:  yes.. make a Backups Folder and make it a share.02:56
genoobiedpkg | grep b4302:57
genoobiedpkg error need an action option02:57
varun_genoobie, oops, it was - "dmesg | grep b43" - sorry, just awoke ;P02:58
mojtabaDr_Willis: The data is changing always, then I should backup 2 times? one in the windows and second on the linux machine?02:58
genoobieb43 phy0 error02:58
genoobiefirmware file b43/ucode5.fw  not found02:58
varun_genoobie, is it a recent message? could be an older one when the firmware wasn't installed..02:59
genoobiebut at the end it says b43-phy0 loading firmware version 666.202:59
genoobiethat seems to be the latest version02:59
Dr_Willismojtaba:  No idea. depends on how critical yor data is.02:59
genoobievarun_: will this be persistent?03:00
varun_genoobie, check again "ls /lib/firmware/b43 | grep ucode5" - is it there?03:00
genoobieis there anything else I need to do?03:00
varun_yes03:00
mojtabaDr_Willis: If I format new hard drive NTFS on the linux machine, should I defragment it later? or there is no need for that in linux?03:00
genoobiewell wireless signals are coming up03:00
Dr_Willismojtaba:  a newly formated ntfs - is not fragmented03:00
varun_genoobie, it's all good then :)03:00
Dr_Willismojtaba:  and ext2/3/4 dont have fragmentation issues.03:00
genoobieyes it is there03:00
mojtabaDr_Willis: I mean after a while03:00
genoobieso reboot will yield a working wireless03:00
genoobieyay!03:00
genoobievarun_: thank you very much03:01
varun_genoobie, and did you mean the message will be persistent? If so.. no, it'll be gone at next boot03:01
varun_Welcome :)03:01
genoobieno03:02
genoobieI meant will the wireless be persistent03:02
genoobieso varun_ I'd like to do a cleanup03:02
genoobieshould I uninstall b4303:02
genoobieI mean b43-fwcutter03:02
varun_genoobie, yup that will be persistent (unless you fiddled with the sta driver too, we'll be right here if you did ;P)03:03
genoobieno I never did03:03
genoobievarun_: do you have a second03:04
genoobieI'm trying to make a synopsis of what I did03:04
varun_genoobie, once the firmware files are in place, they'll always be there, unless you manually remove them. The only possible problem is the sta driver blacklisting the b43, which is as easy to fix as purging the sta03:04
varun_yup03:04
genoobie1) installed b43-fwcutter03:04
genoobie2) tried to install firmware-b43-installer03:05
genoobiethis failed because it wanted the firmware from the internet03:05
genoobiethen 3) installed linux-firmware-nonfree103:05
varun_genoobie, b43-fwcutter is just a helper, not needed anymore, but won't hurt either. So is no. 2)03:05
genoobie4) accidentally grabbed the wrong tarball03:06
varun_3) is the real thing, has to be there now03:06
genoobiebut #3 is just unpacking a bunch of firmware03:06
genoobieno?03:06
genoobiethen I was going to execute the b43-fwcutter command on the wrong file but was stopped by you and Dr_Willis03:07
varun_genoobie, yes, 3 did what you think, but I'm not sure if purging it will also remove the files. so better just leave it installed.03:08
genoobiewho recognized that tarball was the wrong one03:08
genoobiethen since you saw that I did #303:08
genoobiewe can skip to #5) modprobe the right fw03:08
varun_genoobie, we are not sure if it was the right or wrong file, we just didn't know about it, so better get rid of it03:09
varun_the tar.bz file03:09
genoobiedeleted it03:09
genoobieso to uninstall those two helper pkgs03:09
genoobieb43-fwcutter and firmware installer03:10
genoobiehow do I do that03:10
genoobiedpkg -u?03:10
varun_genoobie, if everything is right, you won't need to do anything manually now. It should all work automatically on next boot.03:10
genoobielet me reboot03:10
genoobiebut don't I want to get rid of those helper bin?03:10
varun_genoobie, in fact, you can just copy the /lib/firmware/b43 directory --> remove everything you tried --> copy the directory back "IF" it gets deleted during purging the nonfree package..03:11
genoobiewhen I tried to copy a folder into that directory earlier it said "access denied"03:12
varun_genoobie, you can copy "From" it. To copy "Into" it, you'll need to be root "sudo cp..."03:13
genoobieoh03:13
genoobiethe FileMan won't handle this automatically?03:13
varun_genoobie, so in short - you can delete all the helper packages now. Just keep the "linux-firmware-nonfree" one just in case. It'll work on all versions of Ubuntu.03:13
genoobiehow do you "delete" the helper pkgs?03:14
varun_genoobie, only if FileMan is opened as root "gksu.."03:14
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genoobiehow do you delete the helper pkgs03:15
varun_not necessary, but you should be able to "apt-get remove <desired package>"03:15
varun_basically, I meant the garbage in your home or desktop :)03:15
genoobieoh03:15
genoobieso just the .deb files03:16
varun_genoobie, the helpers are in KB anyway..03:16
genoobieyeah03:16
varun_yup03:16
genoobieI just like to keep it clean03:16
varun_or "look" clean ;P03:16
genoobieto update the OS?03:16
genoobiesoftware updater03:17
varun_the firmware dir will survive updates03:17
genoobiewas going to install flash03:17
genoobiehold a sec, I am going to shut down this laptop03:17
genoobieand start xchat from lubuntu03:17
varun_go ahead..03:17
genoobieoh03:18
genoobieUpdated software has been issued since 13.04 was released03:19
genoobie177MB03:19
genoobieughj03:19
varun_Mine has 640 MB pending.... ;)03:20
Dr_Willisand when installed.. takes up another 1mb of space. ;P03:20
genoobieyeah, I was happy with quetzal03:20
rrmno more support for 10.04.4 desktop?03:21
varun_Dr_Willis, not going to sacrifice that much.. lol03:21
varun_rrm, normally not, but what is your problem?03:21
genoobieI hoped that lubuntu would be lighter03:21
genoobieI want my kids to learn how to use a linux box03:21
genoobiescrew windows03:21
genoobiebut learn them both really03:21
Dr_Willislubuntu is the lightest full featured desktop.03:22
varun_on the system, yes, on the download size, not much03:22
Dr_Willisbut lubuntu is lacking in some features  many people want.03:22
tekn33qdont force your children to learn unix!!!!03:22
rrm@varun_  I can not run 12.04 LTS since no pae, I wanted centos 6.4 but that does not have pae either03:22
tekn33qthats mean03:22
genoobieDr_Willis: like what?03:22
varun_rrm, how much ram do you have? And are you sure your CPU is not 64 bit?03:23
Dr_Willisgenoobie:  just little things you may never notice.  unless you use the other desktops then wonder how to drag an icon from the menu to the desktop. or a panel. or why theres no right-click-to-share feature03:23
varun_genoobie, in order to learn Linux, your children don't have to learn to "screw windows".. :P03:23
genoobieyeah, I know03:24
rrm@varun_  ThinkPad R51, 1.5GHZ Pentium M, 2048Ram, 60GB HDD,03:24
wilee-nileerrm, You can use the net install it has no pae.03:24
genoobiebut I don't want to buy win7 or win803:24
genoobieI am running xp03:24
genoobiepretty soon at the EOL03:24
varun_rrm, pae is required for more than 3.5 GB ram03:24
Dr_Willisits allready at EO. but its like a zombie that wont stay down.. ;P03:24
grahamsavage_genoobie: all modern os's are pretty much the same, so unless your training them how to use terminal commands03:24
genoobie:)03:24
grahamsavage_genoobie: i wouldn't say there's a great deal of difference between osx / windows / ubuntu from the UI side of things03:25
varun_rrm, just download Lubuntu or Xubuntu 32 bit (torrents are recommended), and install it.03:25
genoobiewell grahamsavage_ I would disagree just a little03:26
genoobiexp requires a quite a bit more maintenance than linux imo03:26
rrmdo they have a long term support?  I can do debian but that is a bit too hippy for me03:26
cfhowlettgrahamsavage_, even less between OSX and stock Android03:26
genoobiefrom the perspective of browsing easily infected03:26
genoobiemy kids are 1003:26
genoobiethey go to those stupid flash game sites and wham03:27
genoobiecomputer is infected03:27
varun_rrm, Xubuntu has the long term support as far as I know, but Lubuntu not03:27
grahamsavage_genoobie: nooooo, your kidding .. ubuntu is much harder than xp.  xp has much wider range of device support (mainly because the manufacturers target windows) and in general you would have less problems even just for browsing03:27
cfhowlettrrm, next lubuntu 14.04 should be LTS03:27
genoobiegrahamsavage_: yes03:27
grahamsavage_genoobie: i view ubuntu as the OS for people who dont' mind putting in the effort03:27
Dr_Willisdoes it really matter if it has LTS support or not? ;)03:28
grahamsavage_genoobie: I wouldn't recommend it to non-computer minded people though03:28
varun_genoobie, be aware of the flash games, they can cause issues on Linux too if "allow connection to internet" is not disabled.03:28
cfhowlettDr_Willis, only if you'd prefer to avoid updating every 6 - 9 months ...03:28
genoobievarun_: good to know03:28
genoobieis that a flash setting or a game by game setting03:28
varun_genoobie, I was playing one on Gnash, and found it was connected to its server despite being an offline game.03:29
genoobieugh03:29
varun_genoobie, it is the player's setting. I was using Gnash03:29
varun_by default, "Enable" was selected.03:30
genoobiewell, the likelihood that a linux box will be infected is definitely much smaller than a windows box03:30
genoobieand just a tad bit easier to diag03:30
genoobieanyhow03:31
varun_genoobie, yeah, as long as you don't run it as root, it can't spread anything, but still - the behaviour was something unwanted and unexpected.03:31
LinuxGoldeach OS is tailored for a level of user -- I prefer linux cuz it got a lot of utilities that helps me to do what Winblowz can't do.03:31
genoobienow that the install is nearly compete I'm going to clonezilla03:31
genoobieput the img somewhere safe03:31
genoobieand wait until my kids break it03:31
genoobie:)03:31
varun_good idea - a very good one (clonezilla)03:31
genoobiethis time it will be easier than a complete install03:31
genoobievarun_: thanks for the help btw03:32
varun_it was fun :)03:32
genoobie:)03:33
genoobieoh crap03:33
genoobieI knew I should have uninstalled the helper apps03:33
varun_What happened?03:34
genoobiewhen I updated, it just copied all new FW files into that dir03:34
varun_shouldn't be a prob.03:34
genoobiefunny because it downloaded that 5.10003:34
genoobiehope you're right03:34
varun_packages are new, but the fw files are almost always the same.03:35
genoobieif that is the case I can just dpkg that linux-nonfree03:35
varun_Yup :)03:35
genoobieand it ought to overwrite them03:35
misseggI'm using gparted to copy the contents of one partition onto another. I got an error, "Input/output error during read on /dev/sda" What does it mean?03:39
rrmHolly cow, 1.8mb/s over LTE from xubuntu torrent, impressive03:40
varun_rrm, and it ensures the integrity of the downloaded data too :)03:40
cfhowlettrrm, torrents are definitely the way to get ISO's ...03:41
genoobievarun_: LTE?03:41
genoobiebrb03:41
misseggI'm using gparted to copy the contents of one partition onto another. I got an error, "Input/output error during read on /dev/sda" What does it mean?03:42
grahamsavage_long-term-evolution is such a stupid name03:42
crocketDoes ubuntu have an integrated calenar app?03:42
crocketKDE has KOrganizer.03:42
crocketI want to be notified about events.03:42
rrmcfhowlett, indeed, but at work i need to get direct, since they ban torrents and only get less than 1mb03:42
varun_grahamsavage_, where did that name come from? I was going to look up the net ;)03:42
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cfhowlettrrm, your are virtually guaranteed to get a fragged ISO via direct download.  do your MD5sum hash check before installing same.03:43
grahamsavage_varun_: no idea03:43
cfhowlett*you're*03:43
varun_missegg, there can be many reasons for the error you are getting, most common being a failing drive, loose connection of bad sata/pata port.03:43
varun_or*(03:44
genoobieyay03:44
genoobieI'm on my kids linux box03:44
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Gamer1990okay guys i'm having some issues with my screensavers03:44
fuleoi did a cd /var/www and theres an error message. INPUT/OUTPUT error.03:44
varun_genoobie, so it survived the reboot?03:44
misseggvarun_: Shall I stop the operation and do a disk check, or can I do it after?03:44
fuleowhat does this mean...03:44
genoobieseems so03:44
expo987you know a way to automatically run a terminal command on login?03:44
genoobienow time to install flash anbd go to bed03:44
genoobiehow difficult is it to install flash03:44
varun_missegg, you should check it first, else the copy may be corrupt too03:44
fuleoand i went to cd /var   and do an ls -la... it shows file permission as D?????????03:44
fuleoand owner as ????03:45
Gamer1990i get this error when i run memscroller03:45
fuleoand group as ????03:45
fuleocouldnt get into my /var/www03:45
varun_beer to everyone on behalf of genoobie ??03:45
cfhowlettgenoobie, if you haven't already: set up the admin account for admin stuff and set up a normal desktop user account (non-privileged)  for daily use.  they can't install/delete system that way03:45
rrm@cfhowlett you know, i got centos 5.9 over ftp and was ok, depends of the network load i would say03:45
Dr_Willisexpo987:  depends on what the command is doing. ;)03:45
misseggvarun_: What if I want to finish homework before the millenium ends? Is it the worst thing ever to do this? I mean the original has had zero problems03:45
misseggvarun_: To run the disk check after, I mean03:45
Dr_Willisexpo987:  ~/.config/autostart/ is one place to put scripts and commands03:45
varun_missegg, of course you can. It's your priorities :)03:46
Gamer1990the error is unable to load font corier bold etc03:46
misseggvarun_: As someone more experienced than me, what do you think the likelihood is of there being something seriously wrong?03:46
genoobiecfhowlett, okay03:47
fuleoguys... what does it mean if you run ls -la on your command console... and u see a folder with permissions as D?????????  lots of question mark. is this corrupt ?03:47
expo987Dr_Willis: i want to save thinkpad trackpoint settings03:47
Dr_WillisGamer1990:  so install the font? check the repos for fonts. or it may be in the ms fonts package03:47
genoobieI created two user accounts, one for each kid03:47
misseggvarun_: the partition I'm copying is all my stuff and my operating system. So far no horrible problems. Computer is a couple years old03:47
cfhowlettgenoobie, nicely done.03:47
genoobiehow do I restrict their usage?03:47
expo987Dr_Willis: Will that be okay?03:48
Dr_Willisgenoobie:  restrict them in what way?03:48
varun_missegg, the only possible problem is a corrupt copy at the end. Worst case scenario - an unreadable partition on the target drive.03:48
Dr_Willisexpo987:  installing fonts is rather trivial.03:48
genoobiewell nevermind03:48
genoobieI'm going to clonezilla the machine03:48
genoobieso let them break it03:48
cfhowlettgenoobie, these are normal desktop accounts?  restricted by default03:48
ace_mehi all ! I get in the log of a site  configuration error:  couldn't check user.  Check your authn provider!: /frontend_dev.php03:48
expo987Dr_Willis: Fonts? Wrong user ;)03:48
Dr_Willis!info ttf-mscorefonts-installer03:48
ubottuttf-mscorefonts-installer (source: msttcorefonts): Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.4+nmu1ubuntu1 (raring), package size 27 kB, installed size 131 kB03:48
Dr_Willisexpo987:  why wouldent saveing settings be ok? sure you dont mean Load settings?03:49
expo987Dr_Willis: how would i do it03:49
misseggvarun_: So if I ignored, finished copying, ran a disk check, and assuming it succeeded in repairs, deleted the old partition everything would probably be okay?03:49
Gamer1990i have installed ttf-mscorefonts-installer from synaptic03:49
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Dr_Willisexpo987:  make a script that does whatever command you want. put it in ~/.config/autostart/03:49
Dr_WillisGamer1990:  search the repos/package manager for that font perhaps its in some other package03:49
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Dr_Willis!fonts03:50
ubottuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "ttf-mscorefonts-installer" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". For the official ubuntu font, see: http://font.ubuntu.com/03:50
varun_missegg, repairs don't always work the way you think, they can sometimes 'change' the files which I'm sure you don't want. Better compare with the source, then delete.03:50
expo987Dr_Willis: how do you 'make' a script03:50
Dr_Willisexpo987:  with a text editor03:50
Gamer1990i already have it03:50
misseggvarun_: Compare? How can I do that?03:50
Gamer1990do i just reboot?03:50
Dr_Willis!abs03:50
ubottuAdvanced Bash-Scripting Guide, obtainable with ${package-manager} install abs-guide, is a quick and comprehensive guide to bash (command line) scripting in *nix systems. It is also viewable via web at http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/03:50
Dr_WillisGamer1990:  try logging out/back in?03:51
Gamer1990!ops ubottu03:51
misseggI was gonna laugh if it talked about workouts when you wrote abs.03:51
Gamer1990!seen gamer9003:51
ubottuI have no seen command03:51
varun_missegg, I'm not sure, but probably 'rsync' would be the fasted way to check/fix that. It copies data from source to destination 'Only' when there is a difference, ignores the data which is same.03:51
misseggvarun_: Woah, I didn't think it could do it accross partitions.03:52
Gamer1990can someone please answer me?03:52
misseggvarun_: Thanks. You've been extremely helpful and pleasant.03:52
cfhowlett!patience|Gamer1990,03:52
ubottuGamer1990,: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/03:52
varun_missegg, yes it can, although it is usually used across network.03:52
Gamer1990do i have to reboot after installing the "ttf-mscorefonts-installer" package?03:52
varun_missegg, pleasure :)03:52
Gamer1990i'll be back in a few mins03:53
misseggvarun_: Man I should use a feminine handle every time I'm in here. Now that's service03:54
varun_missegg, I didn't notice that until now :P03:54
* fuleo change handle to miss_fuleo03:54
varun_lol !!03:54
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* varunendra thinks some people get confused by the "dra" part of the name ;)03:55
Gamer1990i'm back03:57
Gamer1990it works03:57
Gamer1990now i want to know something03:57
Gamer1990how do i get my hard drives to show up in linux?03:58
Gamer1990other than my ubuntu drive03:58
varunendraGamer1990, using Xubuntu?03:58
Gamer1990no03:59
Gamer1990Lubuntu03:59
Gamer1990i have 6 sata drives03:59
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Gamer19901 of which is my main os drive03:59
varunendrathen you should be able to see their icons in the left pane when the file manager is open. Just click to mount/open them03:59
Gamer1990i have pcmanfm03:59
varunendraDoesn't it show the icons?04:00
genoobiehmm04:00
genoobiebeen googling a bit04:01
Gamer1990hold on04:01
genoobiewill be using chromium04:01
genoobienot sure exactly how to install flash04:01
Gamer1990do i run PCManFM as root or standard user?04:01
xanguagenoobie: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer04:01
varunendraGamer1990, unless you have a very specific and justifiable reason, never use the file manager as root04:02
memeanonymoushola04:02
memeanonymoushola04:02
Gamer1990hi04:02
varunendraGamer1990, I don't remember, but there used to be some utility to mount/unmount the partitions, not sure if it is part of pcmanfm or not04:02
memeanonymousspanish ???04:02
memeanonymousenglish??04:02
Gamer1990okay04:02
Gamer1990i speak canadian english04:02
Dr_Willisi thought the file manager showed them somewhere04:02
Dr_Willis!info ntfs-config04:03
ubottuntfs-config (source: ntfs-config): Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-10 (raring), package size 95 kB, installed size 776 kB (Only available for linux-any)04:03
memeanonymousi speak spanish BOLIVIAN04:03
wilee-nileeI thought the desktop on lubuntu04:03
genoobiexangua, will this be for all users?04:03
wilee-nilee!es | memeanonymous04:03
ubottumemeanonymous: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.04:03
Gamer1990!es memeanonymous04:03
xanguagenoobie: yes04:03
memeanonymousokay04:03
genoobiexangua thanks04:03
Gamer1990!spanish memeanonymous04:03
memeanonymousxDD04:04
Gamer1990i don't know much about this irc chat channel04:04
genoobiexangua anything to do after that?04:04
genoobieupdate or anything?04:04
genoobierestart?04:04
Gamer1990!ubuntu-es04:04
DuncanNZGamer1990: type  /join #ubuntu-es  to join it?04:04
xanguagenoobie: enjoy laggy flash videos04:05
genoobiexangua any tips for flash video?04:05
genoobieor flash games?04:05
DuncanNZGamer1990: or type  !foo | bar  to tell bar about foo (eg: "es")04:05
genoobie(run xp I suppose)04:05
Gamer1990memeanonymous : En la mayor?a de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla s?lo en ingl?s. Si busca ayuda en espa?ol entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.04:05
histo!flash | genoobie04:06
ubottugenoobie: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash04:06
Gamer1990is there a good PC emulation package?04:07
Gamer1990for lubuntu?04:07
histoGamer1990: vbox or qemu04:07
Gamer1990which one is better vbox or qemu?04:09
Dr_WillisGamer1990:  try them both.  it deoends on your needs04:10
Dr_Willis!wine | Gamer199004:10
ubottuGamer1990: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu04:10
histo!best | Gamer199004:10
ubottuGamer1990: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.04:10
Gamer1990okay04:11
Dr_WillisIt very very much depends on what you want to run from the windows world. ;004:13
misseggOh geez, varnum_ isn't here04:32
misseggI've just cloned the contents of an extended partition to a new primary partition. How do I know which I have booted to?04:33
Dr_Willissee what the mount command says is mounted where04:34
misseggThe extended partition is/was running my OS04:34
misseggDr_Willis what command exactly04:34
Dr_Willis'mount'04:34
misseggDr_Willis JUST mount?04:35
Dr_Willisyes.....04:35
Dr_Willisand look at where / is mounted04:35
Dr_Willis!mount04:35
ubottumount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount04:35
Dr_Willismount04:35
Dr_Willis/dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,noatime,nodiratime,discard,errors=remount-ro)04:35
Dr_Willissda2 is my /04:35
Dr_Willisoops sda1 ;)04:35
misseggI'm trying04:36
misseggto post04:36
misseggand it won't let me04:36
missegg             /dev/sda6 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)04:36
misseggtada04:36
FloodBot1missegg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:36
misseggGraah04:36
al_lahey all, quick question: cntl+alt+L locks screen, but is there a way to lock+turn screen off with shortcut command?04:37
misseggal_la super + L04:37
misseggal_la: I *think*04:38
al_lamissegg by default in 13.04 that's not doing anything for me04:38
misseggal_la: I apologize for being useless04:38
al_lamissegg: it's not as if I knew the answer :)04:38
misseggDr_Willis, I had a primary with my OS, then I installed a second OS on an extended, then I deleted the original, then I created a new primary, then I copied the extended to the primary, and now I am trying to boot from that04:39
Dr_Willisid have to pull out the old 'go search on askubuntu.com' answer. ;) i bet they got a page/sheet of all the shortcts. also perss and hold the SUPER key to see a common list04:39
Dr_Willismissegg:  you copied as in CLONED/Imaged? if so i imagine you will need to correct your grub and fstab entries to match the new UUIDs04:40
al_laDr_Willis tried and trying, no luck yet.  was hoping it was something obvious, will keep looking though.04:40
misseggDr_Willis: I copied as in whatever gparted does when you copy + paste04:40
Ben64al_la: make a script to do it for you04:41
misseggDr_Willis: But what you said sounds like it is probably the right thing to do. How may I do it04:41
al_laBen64: yeah that's the only way I'm seeing to do it04:41
Ben64either make one to turn the screen off whenever its locked, or a new shortcut to do both04:42
Ben64i have my computer set up so when i walk in the room, the screen turns on and the lock is disabled automatically04:42
Dr_Willismissegg:  no idea. Id check that the uuids are in fact differnt. if they are the same. that may cause all sorts of issues04:42
misseggDr_Willis: I don't know how to do that either.04:43
Dr_Willismissegg:  the uuids may be differnt if Gparted04:43
Ben64when you copy partitions, the uuid usually stays the same04:43
Dr_Willis!uuid04:43
ubottuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)04:43
Ben64and you can make the uuids whatever you want... /dev/sdc2: UUID="00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000064" TYPE="ext4"04:43
misseggDr_Willis: They are exactly the same04:44
Dr_Willisif you are feeling brave.. change the one you DONT want to boot from/use ;)04:44
Dr_Willistune2fs command can change the uuid04:44
misseggBen64, Dr_Willis: How can I change one? What would I do after that to boot to the new primary?04:44
Dr_Willisthere could be other things we are missing. Ive never bothered to switch drives this way04:45
misseggPing me I don't know who you're talking to04:45
misseggor what you mean04:45
Ben64missegg: tune2fs can change UUID04:45
Ben64oh , Dr_Willis said that04:46
misseggBen64: Oh geez, this command scares me.04:46
Dr_Willisyou are the only one with a question at this time missegg  ;)04:46
misseggDr_Willis: Great, I love attention04:47
Dr_Willis [-U UUID]04:47
Dr_Willistune2fs /dev/sda1 -U ENTER_NEW_UUID04:47
Dr_Willis(with a sudo at the front of course)04:47
misseggDr_Willis: Awesome04:47
misseggDr_Willis: it should have the same amount of digits and the same dashes, yes?04:48
Ben648-4-4-4-1204:48
ur0plis there a way to remap just a certain key?04:54
Daemonxis there anything non-wine use for netflix sub silverlight ?04:55
misseggDr_Willis: it should have the same amount of digits and the same dashes, yes?04:55
misseggDaemonx: Not at the moment04:55
Dr_Willisthats most likely a good idea missegg04:55
misseggDr_Willis: Gracias04:55
Ari-YangDaemonx, as of now.. no04:55
ur0pli have a second hand keyboard for my netbook with a peace sign key, a heart key, and a music note key as extra keys. any of oyu seen these keyboards?04:57
bluedogslim_is there an easy way to install a .tar.gz file?  Rather than using command lines?04:58
Dr_Willisbluedogslim_:  No.04:58
Dr_Willisand how to inmstal it totally depends on whats IN that .tar.gz   that is JUST an archive04:58
Dr_Willisit culd contain anything04:59
bluedogslim_Ya, I'm noticing.04:59
Dr_Willisbest to tell us what it is you want to do04:59
Dr_Willisand what is is you are installing04:59
bluedogslim_I want to install a printer driver04:59
bluedogslim_And its a tar.gz file.05:00
Dr_Willisand the printer is a?05:00
bluedogslim_Canon ImageClass MF4890dw05:00
Myrttibluedogslim_: have you plugged it in yet for the first time?05:00
bluedogslim_I can't seem to get the scanner portion of it to work properly05:00
Dr_WillisCanon - eww. ;)  THere are many canon drivers in the repos - just not installed by default05:00
bluedogslim_Everything else works fine.05:00
Myrttioh ok. You have.05:01
Dr_Willisthe Scanner  part - does NOT use the printer drivers. ;) cups handles printing05:01
Dr_WillisSANE handles scanners05:01
bluedogslim_What is SANE?05:01
Dr_Willisits possible the scanner is not supported05:01
Dr_Willis!sane05:01
ubottuScanning software: Simple-Scan (GNOME), Xsane, the GIMP (GNOME), Kooka (KDE). For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners - See also !OCR05:01
Dr_WillisSCANE is the 'set' of tools that use scanners05:01
bluedogslim_How do I know if my scanner is compatible with Sane?05:02
Dr_Willis https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners -05:02
Dr_Willisor the sane.org site05:02
Dr_Willischeck at askubuntu.com may help also05:02
misseggDr_Willis: the output of changing it was 'tune2fs 1.42 (29-Nov-2011)'05:03
misseggDr_Willis: Does that mean I did it right?05:03
crockethi05:03
misseggHi, crocket05:03
Dr_Willismissegg:  i dont think you will noticve the uuid change untill you reboot05:03
crocketDoes unity or ubuntu have an integrated PIM software?05:03
bluedogslim_Doesn't look like my scanner is supported.05:03
Dr_Willisbluedogslim_:  with canon - be happy the printer works at all05:04
crocketI want a deamon to notify me of events in the background.05:04
misseggDr_Willis: sudo blkid says they are different now05:04
bluedogslim_Dr_Willis - what brand should I consider in the future?05:04
Dr_WillisThe Canon company - does not support  linux very well05:04
Dr_Willisbluedogslim_:  anything NOT canon. :)05:04
Dr_Willisi perfer brother05:04
misseggDr_Willis: I wrote the new one down.05:04
bluedogslim_Its sometimes tricky to pick a printer for ubuntu05:05
crocketanyone?05:05
kostkon_crocket, empathy?05:05
crocketwhat?05:05
misseggbluedogslim: I generally have very good luck with printers.05:05
crocketIt's an IM software.05:05
kostkon_crocket, click on the envelope icon in the tray, then select chat05:05
kostkon_crocket, oh right. you said pi05:06
crocketI don't want chat.05:06
misseggkostkon_: I don't think that's what he's asking for05:06
kostkon_pim*05:06
bluedogslim_The issue isn't so much the printer. Its the extra features.05:06
crocketI want calendar.05:06
bluedogslim_ie - Scanner05:06
crocketcalendar events.05:06
crocketI want to be notified of calendar events.05:06
misseggcrocket: evolution calendar05:06
crocketmissegg, Does it run in the background?05:06
crocketHow about thunderbird lightning?05:07
misseggcrocket: last I checked it was the ONLY calendar supported. Also yes05:07
misseggcrocket: I think you still have to hook thunderbird into evolution in a special way to get it to work.05:07
bluedogslim_I'm here -05:07
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misseggDr_Willis, what do I do now?05:07
misseggDr_Willis: If I reboot, will it let me boot to the primary?05:07
Dr_Willismissegg:  if you are lucky. it will see the new uuid and use that.05:09
Dr_Willisbluedogslim_:  in the future - buy seperate scanner/printers. ;) much less hassles05:10
misseggDr_Willis: Okay, I'm putting my faith in you Doctor. Brb05:10
Dr_Willismissegg:  ive sayd ive never done this befor05:10
Dr_Willisthers dozens of things we could be missing05:10
bluedogslim_Dr_Willis - Its ok - Dont need the scanner. would be nice however05:10
misseggDr_Willis: Your bedside manner is terrible.05:11
bluedogslim_I really do love ubuntu.05:11
misseggDr_Willis: I'm gonna reboot05:11
Dr_Willislast canon printer i had.. decided that  the FullNew Blue Ink bottle that i spent $25 on.. was empty.05:11
Dr_Willisthen it would work for a day.. then not for a week...05:11
Dr_Willisthat one got gave away. ;)  Gone to Brother and not had issues since.05:11
misseggI don't know what the point of owning a printer is. It never seems cost effective, always painful.05:12
Rimtechi need help with the cisco vpn client vpnc can anyone help me? i want to create 2 vpn tunnels to 2 different vpn concentrators05:12
misseggLike a cell phone plan, you got to have one with a bunch of people.05:12
Dr_Willismy HP printer lasted me 13 yrs. ;)05:12
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misseggSorry, brb05:12
bluedogslim_Anyone know of a good mass email program ?   I have a mailing list I do once per month to my cients.  I can't seem to find anything on ubuntu05:13
kostkon!find mailing list05:13
ubottulist is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, saucy, saucy-backports, saucy-proposed, stable, testing, unstable05:13
kostkon:/05:13
Dr_Willisapt-cache search  mail list05:13
Dr_Willisperhaps05:13
bluedogslim_what does that do?05:14
Dr_Willisuses the package manager to search for packages05:14
Dr_Willis!apt05:14
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)05:14
airtonixInstalling from source, is there something better than checkinstall?05:15
BrodocKanyone using ubuntu 13.10 and think it's "stable enough"? in other words... can I upgrade right now and make it not crash the video card?05:15
bluedogslim_hmmm   Hard to pick on05:16
bluedogslim_one05:16
Dr_WillisBrodocK:  its working fine for me. buut thats all i can say - its workng for ME. ;)05:16
BrodocKDr_Willis: AMD or Nvidia video card?05:16
Dr_WillisBrodocK:  Nvidia here05:16
BrodocKthanks05:17
missegg_I think I need to update grub.05:17
missegg_I ran sudo update-grub. Should I do anything else?05:17
Rimtechi need help with the cisco vpn client vpnc can anyone help me? i want to create 2 vpn tunnels to 2 different vpn concentrators05:18
Dr_Willisyou may want to use that boot-repair tool missegg_05:18
missegg_Dr_Willis: ?05:18
Dr_Willis!fixgrub05:18
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub205:18
missegg_Dr_Willis: Why would I need to05:19
Dr_Willisfirst url mentions boot-repair05:19
Dr_Willisit can fix most any grub issyes you may ever encounter05:19
missegg_Dr_Willis: I haven't had windows on this thing in years05:19
Dr_Williswhy did you think you need to 'update-grub' ? ;)05:19
missegg_Dr_Willis: Because grub didn't know there was another partition with an OS on it?05:20
missegg_Dr_Willis: It wasn't listed as an option at boot05:20
Dr_Willisthought you dident want to boot that one? ;)   or was i thinking of someone else.05:20
Dr_Willisthe switched OS worked ?05:20
missegg_Dr_Willis: Also gparted had a tool to generate to a new uuid all along. Why didn't you tell me, man?05:20
missegg_Dr_Willis: I don't know man, I only just updated grub.05:20
Dr_Willismissegg_:  and how many times did i say  Ive never done this specific task befor05:21
missegg_Dr_Willis: It's not a switched OS anyway, it's a clone of my current partition05:21
Dr_Willismissegg_:  boot-repair i imagone could have fixed it with the existing uuid;s also05:21
missegg_Dr_Willis: I bet you aren't even a licensed doctor05:21
* Dr_Willis got his degree in Loveology, because he IS the dr of LOOOOVEEEE!05:21
wilee-nileePhD=Dr05:22
missegg_Dr_Willis: Philology?05:23
missegg_Dr_Willis: You're a philiphile05:23
Dr_WillisRaspberry Piofile.05:24
missegg_Mm. Save me a slice ;)05:24
missegg_wink wink nudge nudge05:24
missegg_Okay, rebooting again.05:25
missegg_brb05:25
Dr_Willisseems theres work on the RaspberryPi to make it work as a ChromeCast Reciever.05:25
root32How to boot ubuntu from USB ?05:30
porchaolive05:31
Dr_Willismake a bootable usb. plug it in.. power up.. tell pc to boot the usb05:31
Dr_Willispendrivelinux web ste has several tools to make a bootable usb with05:31
root32Dr_Willis: What is it ?05:32
Dr_Williswhat is 'what' ?05:32
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misseggY'know I would REALLY like to go to bed someday05:33
root32Dr_Willis: Several tools for make boot usb ?05:33
Dr_Willisroot32:  the Pendrivelinux web site has a listing of such tools.05:33
misseggDr_Willis: I chose sda1, but it booted to sda6 anyway05:33
Dr_Willistheres dozens of them  to choose from05:33
Dr_Willismissegg:  chose what where?05:33
misseggDr_Willis: at boot05:33
Dr_Willisyou mean at the GRUB menu?05:34
misseggDr_Willis: it gave me a list of options05:34
Dr_Willisyou have both os's  the 2 clones in the grub menu?05:34
misseggDr_Willis: yes05:34
misseggDr_Willis: and many different kernel choices as well05:34
Dr_Williswhy not disable the one you dont want? thats what i culdent understand earlier why you were adding it back05:34
misseggAdding what back05:34
misseggI don't understand05:35
Dr_WillisIf the grub configs tell the kernel to set / to be on sda6 then thats what it willuse for /.05:35
misseggI don't understand05:35
Dr_WillisYep. i think thats part of the issue.05:35
missegg:\05:35
misseggI have an extension partition.05:35
Dr_Willisgrub passes that UUID info to the kernel. that tells the  kernel where to look for /05:35
Dr_Willisexctended or primary dosent matter. its where its being told to look05:36
misseggI don't understand.05:36
misseggIt said blah blah blah elementary kernel at sda105:36
root32root32: Ok , i will check it..05:36
misseggI chose the most recent kernel at sda105:36
misseggit booted to sda605:36
root32Dr_Willis: Ok , i will check it..05:36
Dr_Willismay be time to read up on how grub2 works. I imagine your grub configs are  confused.  or you got 2 differnt os's messing with grub. so its not using the right configs05:37
Dr_Willis'booted to sda6' as in.. / is now mounted to sda6 ?05:37
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misseggDr_Willis: Yes, I'm mounted on sda605:37
misseggDr_Willis: Like usual05:38
misseggDr_Willis: But I wanted to boot to the clone05:38
misseggDr_Willis: so that I could disk check, be sure they were the same, and then delete the extension and use the extra space for my primary05:38
Dr_Willisboth os's have differnt UUID's now?05:39
misseggDr_Willis: Basically I made a mistake a long time ago of only using an extension, and I couldn't get it to use the whole disk. Now I've run out of space05:39
Dr_Willison al their partions?05:39
misseggDr_Willis: Yes05:39
Dr_Willisid have to ssuggest trying that boot-repair tool it may notice somthing thats been overlooked05:40
kattimy wirelless modem not detected in ubuntu05:40
misseggDr_Willis: My goal is to have a normal primary partition that can use the whole disk space, minus the swap.05:40
misseggDr_Willis: Right now I've got this fixed extension.05:41
Dr_Willisyou mean 'extended' partition?05:41
Dr_WillisYou can resize those05:41
misseggDr_Willis: Not without a primary05:41
Dr_Willisyou need to resize the Extended, then resize the logicals in it.05:41
misseggDr_Willis: it wouldn't let me. I came in a bunch of times asking how to do just that.05:41
Dr_WillisYou just have to be carefullin your clickings in gparted05:42
misseggDr_Willis: I was told repeatedly that I needed to make a normal primary partition and use that,05:42
misseggDr_Willis: Trust me, I tried.05:42
Dr_Willisive resized extended/logicals befor.05:42
misseggDr_Willis: I already cloned it. I just want a normal primary.05:42
misseggDr_Willis: I don't want to deal with a bizarre set up after a hellish time trying to resize it.05:43
misseggDr_Willis: What is the tool I need to use05:44
Dr_WillisIve mentioned trying 'boot-repair' several times missegg05:44
Dr_Willisit can sort out most issues05:44
misseggDr_Willis: It's not a known package.05:44
Dr_Willisdid you look at the wiki page the bot said? it gives how to install it05:45
Dr_Willishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair05:45
misseggokay okay05:45
missegghold up05:45
misseggDr_Willis: It's doing stuff.05:48
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misseggDr_Willis: Holy moly. I can restore MBR with this thing??05:52
misseggDr_Willis: Testing brb05:53
Dr_Willisnow you know why ive mentioned it several times. ;)05:53
Dr_Willishopefully someday - t will get on the default ubuntu cds05:53
misseggAggh05:58
misseggDr_Willis: It didn't work05:58
Dr_Willisand what is it doing exactly?05:58
misseggDr_Willis: I chose sda1 and yet I'm mounted at sda605:58
Dr_Willisand if you choose sda6 ?05:59
misseggDr_Willis: I used recommended repair05:59
misseggDr_Willis: uh05:59
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misseggDr_Willis: sda1 even has a boot flag06:00
Dr_Willisim not sure that grub/linux cares about the boot flag06:01
misseggDr_Willis: Well I checked it for errors as well06:01
misseggDr_Willis: I do not understand what is wrong06:01
misseggDr_Willis: or why it hates this partition06:01
Dr_Willislook in the /boot/grub/grub.cfg   file06:02
Dr_Willisthere will be some lines  that mention   root=UUID=(YOURUUID NUMBERS)06:03
Dr_Willisif those are pointing to the wrong UUID  then that may be the issue06:03
Dr_Willisbu that file is auto-generated by the grub tools. so not sure how best to make it sort it out06:03
Dr_WillisALSO  YOU did alter your /etc/fstab ?06:04
Dr_Willis#Entry for /dev/sda1 :06:04
Dr_WillisUUID=96db155e-8d35-4766-8719-7af79fc82eac / ext4 discard,n06:04
Dr_Willisthat UUID tells the system where to mount / to.06:04
Dr_Willisdid you change the NEW installs UUID. or the old installs?06:04
misseggtoo many sentences and you're not pinging my Dr_Willis06:05
missegghold up06:05
misseggDr_Willis: first, the UUID is wrong it looks like06:05
Dr_Willisif your fstab is telling it to use / on the sda1   then thats what both os's will use. if their fstab is identical06:05
misseggDr_Willis actually wait wait wait06:06
dyayHi06:06
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Dr_Willishowdys06:06
varunendra:P06:06
misseggI'm confused and you said way too much06:06
Dr_Willisreread it slowly i guess06:06
misseggI didn't touch /etc/fstab06:06
Dr_Willisfstab definds where / is at.. so sounds like thats your next step06:06
misseggI don't remember what the first thing you said was06:06
misseggYou completely lost me06:07
Dr_Willisi imagine the grub files are corredt. its your fstab thats wrong06:07
misseggI haven't seen 80% of your messages06:07
Dr_Williswhy not? we are the only 2 here.06:07
misseggThe WHOLE CHAT is CONSTANTLY MOVING UP06:07
misseggThere are new messages constantly06:07
misseggno06:07
misseggI cannot easily read your messages06:07
Dr_WillisHmm. Not for me. ;)  but you may want to figure out how to ignreo parts/joins in your client06:07
misseggYou have to go at a pace that is reasonable. I don't care if it's not hard for you. Not everyone is you.06:08
dyayCan't you tilt your phone?06:08
Dr_Willismissegg:  bottom line -   check/fix your /etc/fstab to point to the right uuid for /06:08
Dr_WillisI stil have to wonder what new messages.. if you mean  'bubba has joined, bubba has left' you CAN turn those off in most irc clients06:09
dyayReally?06:09
dyayNot on andchat!06:10
Dr_Williserr.. Yes you can on andchat06:10
Dr_WillisI use andchat daily for 5+ hrs a day06:10
dyayAnd xchat..06:10
Dr_Willisxchat - you definatly can also06:10
dyayHow?06:10
Dr_Willisused that for literally decades. ;)06:10
Dr_Williswell years06:10
Dr_Willisright click on a tab/channel name..06:10
Dr_Willisits in the xchat docs/faq i imagine.06:10
dyayHow you turn the messages off?06:10
Dr_Willisandchat has it in the settings06:11
misseggDr_Willis: I'm looking at fstab06:11
misseggDr_Willis: it says it's static information06:11
Dr_Willisxchat has a conf_mode (conferance mode)06:11
misseggDr_Willis: It's listing the mounted partitions06:11
Dr_Willismissegg:  the first line that defines /  here. mentions the UUID. you need to tell it the proper UUID for the partion you want it to mount to / when you boot up.06:12
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Dr_Willismissegg:  i would alter  the /etc/fstab file on both installs. to be the same. and make them both mount / on  the primary partion you made.06:12
misseggDr_Willis: I don't think this is a config file06:13
Dr_Willisyou can even use the /dev/sdXX type name instead of UUID=####   if it makes it easier to read06:13
Dr_Willisyou could pastebin your /etc/fstab06:13
misseggDr_Willis: It looks weird06:13
dyayWhy my wubi ubuntu 12.04 graphics drivers from nvidia always crash after around 2-4 months?!06:13
misseggDr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144303/06:14
Dr_WillisUUID=736c920a-1666-4edc-9e1b-9abf9e7aeaca /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       106:14
Dr_Willismake that UUID point to the UUID of the partion you want to be /06:15
Dr_Williswhat was the device you want to be / ?   sda2? or what exactly06:15
misseggDr_Willis: sda106:15
Dr_Willisand the UUID of sda1 is what?06:16
misseggDr_Willis: The same, but instead of 1666 it is 177706:16
Dr_Willis'sudo blkid /dev/sda1' will show you06:16
Dr_Willisso.. you chante the fstab file to be                  UUID=736c920a-1777-   >the rest<06:17
misseggDr_Willis: So I mount the clone and do the same to its fstab?06:17
Dr_Willismissegg:  yes. i would do it to both06:17
Dr_Willisbooting either one will  then get your / to be on  sda106:18
malkaunshow do i get facebook to work using empathy on 13.04?06:18
misseggDr_Willis: uh... it's mounted but how do I navigate to it? pantheon-files doesn't see it06:20
misseggDr_Willis:?06:22
scrapcodeI'm getting a lot of "Upgrade will continue but ... pkg may not be in a working state......." errors while upgrading to 13.04 - What's the deal? Is this popping up a lot for others06:22
misseggbrb06:23
Dr_WillisNot seen anyone else mention it scrapcode06:24
varunendrascrapcode, upgrading from what? A previous version of Ubuntu?06:24
Dr_Willisbut i imagine most people are either upgraded.. or waiting for 13.1006:24
scrapcodeI uppped to 12.10 from 12.04 then this06:25
scrapcodeJust realized it was out >_<06:25
Dr_Willis13.04 has been out for almost 6 mo06:25
Dr_Willis13.10 is due out  next month06:25
scrapcodeIt's at the "Installing the upgrades" step and has been spitting a few "Can06:25
scrapcodeCan06:25
scrapcodeCan't install this pkg" errors06:26
scrapcodeSorry, my keyboard is layed out weird.06:26
varunendrascrapcode, are you using PPAs?06:26
missegg_Dr_Willis: I changed fstab in sda6 but it still boots to sda106:26
Dr_Willischange it in both?06:27
scrapcodevarunendra: What's that? I am trying this one through the GUI.06:27
scrapcodeAh, shit. Just finished: "The upgrade has completed but there were errors during the upgrade process" This should end well...06:28
Dr_Willisscrapcode:  ;)06:28
scrapcodeAnd I just downloaded Ubuntu like a week ago, and 12.04 is what it gave me06:28
varunendrascrapcode, PPAs are third party repositories, used for third party software.06:28
Dr_Willisscrapcode:  12.04 is the latest 'LTS" release06:28
missegg_Dr_Willis: I don't know how06:28
missegg_Dr_Willis: I tried mounting but I didn't know how to get to the contents06:28
Dr_Willismissegg_:  use the shell. and  a text editor as root (sudo  vi /the/path/to/the/other/install/etc/fstab)06:29
scrapcodevarunendra: Yeah, I've added a few for some things like Code::Blocks and Spotify, Skype...06:29
Dr_Willismissegg_:  or nano instead of vi06:29
r02922070j06:29
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scrapcodeI'll be back in a minute, going to reboot.06:29
SpeedFire_laptopHi, Someone can help me to install bumblebee under ubuntu 12.04 ?06:30
ljsoftnetSpeedFire_laptop what does bumblebee do?06:31
Dr_Willisthere should be some guides at askubuntu.com SpeedFire_laptop06:31
SpeedFire_laptopIts when you have 2 graphic cards on your laptop06:31
ljsoftnettwo discrete or 1 integrated 1 discrete?06:31
missegg_Dr_Willis: first, vi sucks. I don't understand this. Second, permission denied.06:31
missegg_Dr_Willis: it is sudo and it is mounted06:32
varunendramissegg_, I think you wanted to boot to sda1 - "<Dr_Willis> what was the device you want to be / ?   sda2? or what exactly06:32
varunendra<missegg> Dr_Willis: sda1"06:32
Dr_Willismissegg_:  what was the exact command you used?06:32
missegg_Yes06:32
missegg_sda106:32
SpeedFire_laptoptheses commands : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee06:32
Pingucodex, you there?06:32
missegg_Dr_Willis: I can't give you the exact one because vi behaves strangely and I hate it. I have to close terminal to get it to quit. I said sudo vi /dev/sda1/etc/fstab06:33
missegg_and got [permission denied]06:33
Dr_Willismissegg_:  i said you can use nano instead.06:34
Dr_Willisand that command is wrong06:34
varunendramissegg_, I think it may be helpful if we can take a look at current outputs of "sudo blkid" and "cat <path to desired partition for '/'>/etc/fstab"06:34
Dr_Willis  /media/themountpoint/etc/fstab06:34
Dr_Willisnot /dev/sda106:34
Dr_Willismissegg_:  to close vi -> esc :q06:35
missegg_Dr_Willis: I don't understand.06:35
Dr_Willisdont understand what?06:35
Dr_Willis /dev/sda1 is NOT a mountpoint - its a device.   you use the path to the file. not /dev/ANYTHING06:35
karab44hello06:35
missegg_JESUS06:35
missegg_I did cat /dev/sda1 and unleashed hellfire06:36
missegg_I don't understand what you want from me06:36
missegg_I don't know what the damn path is06:36
Dr_Williswe are training you in whats rather core/fundamental stuff here missegg_06:36
missegg_Dr_Willis: Core fundamental stuff is using a GUI, smartypants. 99% of the population would never consider this core.06:37
Dr_Willisit may be time to read up on some bash basics.  as we said. /dev/sda1 is the 'partion'   you MOUNT a partition to a folder. ie:  /media/sda106:37
Dr_Willismissegg_:  this is very very much core stuff here.06:37
Dr_Willisa path is not a device.06:37
missegg_Dr_Willis: Stop being condescending. If I knew everything I wouldn't be here.06:37
Dr_Willismissegg_:  you dont seem to be listening is the main problem. and you are expecting us to train you in  stuff you can learn from some basic guides.06:37
viddyHe is not being condescending. He's trying to help you.06:38
missegg_viddy: He is doing one well and the other badly06:38
varunendramissegg_, do you have the partition mounted that you want to boot from? If yes, please show us the output of "mount" command.06:38
missegg_varunedra: I do, one sec06:38
missegg_varunendra: What should I be looking for in the output?06:39
varunendramissegg_, the "Female handle" not working anymore ? ;P06:39
varunendramissegg_, just pastebin the output, and give us its link06:40
missegg_varunedra: oh hush06:40
varunendrait'd be easier to suggest after taking a look at it06:40
missegg_kk, one sec06:40
missegg_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144365/06:40
Dr_Willismissegg_:  so what command did you use to mount sda1 earlier?06:41
missegg_Dr_Willis: the gparted option06:41
Dr_Willisi would suggest not doing that any more. but use the cli to mount.06:42
Dr_Willisyou have sda6 and sda1 BOTH mounted to /06:42
Dr_Willissome how..06:42
varunendramissegg_, please show us the outputs of "sudo blkid" also.06:42
missegg_Dr_Willis: uh06:42
Dr_Willisim not even sure how thats possible. i would 'sudo umount /dev/sda1'  and see  if it lets you do it06:42
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missegg_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144374/06:43
missegg_I'm magic, clearly.06:43
missegg_I've ascended past petty terminals.06:43
varunendraI've seen that the first time too, although knew it is theoretically possible..06:44
missegg_Oh God what have I done06:44
Dr_Willisvarunendra:  ;)  now what one is actaually on /   heh.. best bet i would say - reboot to clean out all the weird mounts. agree?06:44
missegg_Well how was I supposed to unmount the partition I'm using?!06:44
missegg_Nobody told me to go to a live drive06:44
Dr_Willismissegg_:  you dont need to do it from a live drive.06:45
missegg_I'm a wizard, not a psychic.06:45
Dr_Willisyou can use a live drive.. or not.06:45
Daniel110hi06:45
varunendraDr_Willis, let's take a look at them separately first (unmount - remount on a different mount point)06:45
Dr_Willis varunendra  yep.  if it lets that happen06:45
varunendramissegg_, now the output of "cat /etc/fstab"06:45
varunendra:P06:46
Daniel110my windows partition crashed and i can't log in, i really need to get a file saved in my windows parition i was wondering if there was a way to access it from my ubuntu parition06:46
missegg_varunendra: the output belongs to sda606:46
Dr_WillisDaniel110:  the file manager, or cli should let you  mount windows partions and access the files06:46
aeon-ltdDaniel110: if it's mounted can you explore it?06:46
missegg_varunendra: It's the one Dr_Condescension had me edit06:46
varunendrawe'll figure that out missegg_06:46
missegg_varunendra: I never edited the other one06:47
Dr_Willismissegg_:  i imagine very few people will jump in to help you  if you keep that up.06:47
Daniel110i never mounted a partition so i don't really know how it works06:47
Dr_WillisDaniel110:  use 'sudo blkid' to see what partion is the windows partion06:47
varunendramissegg_, just show us the output, then maybe pour yourself some coffee and get a huge sandwich, while we....06:47
missegg_Dr_Willis: I imagine very few people will jump to be helped by you if you're lecturing them about what they don't know in a support irc06:48
Dr_Willismissegg_:  your attitude is worse. good luck.06:48
missegg_Dr_Willis: not to mention rushing them with information06:48
helmut_hi06:48
Dr_WillisHowdy helmut_06:48
varunendramissegg_, output please, and change the coffee with some chilled cold drink06:48
Daniel110this is what i get http://pastebin.com/BapXMELD i pretty sure window is on sda106:48
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Dr_WillisDaniel110:  you got 3 possible windows partions. ;)  the file manager dosent show any of them at the left side of its screen?06:49
Dr_WillisDaniel110:  under 'devices' ?06:49
missegg_varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144383/06:50
miaqinashi there06:50
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Daniel110ohh lol thanks yeah i found it06:50
missegg_varunendra: I think I was slightly high regarding my insistence of editing it06:50
missegg_varunendra: I'm so screwed for class tomorrow06:51
Dr_WillisDaniel110:  ;)  just never noticed them eh. :) now IF windows ever crashes badly - the system can refuse to mount the windows partions.06:51
Daniel110mm i see06:52
manik_Can somebody help me, I want to switch back from openbox to default after rebooting06:52
Dr_Willismanik_:  just select the desktop you want to use at the login screen?06:52
manik_I don't get that window where we have to choose06:52
manik_dr_willis06:52
Dr_Willismanik_:  what do you get then?06:52
manik_straight into openbox dr_willis06:53
Dr_Willismanik_:  so log out..  and select the one you want?06:53
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shashank_rustyhi06:53
manik_I don't get any box from where I can select06:53
Dr_Willisor disable the auto-login feature of lightdm06:53
missegg_varunendra: You there buddy?06:53
varunendramissegg_, can you successfully do - "sudo umount /dev/sda1" ?06:53
manik_hmmm, how to do that? Dr_Willis06:53
Dr_Willismanik_:  alternatively  see if you got a .dmrc file   if so rename it so it uses the default06:53
Daniel110just for future references if the system refused to mount my windows files is there anything i can do to recover them?06:54
missegg_varunendra: It says it's busy06:54
Dr_WillisDaniel110:  depends on why it refuses. you can force a mount06:54
varunendramissegg_, and "sudo umount /dev/sda6" ?06:55
Dr_Willismanik_:  run 'gnome-control-center06:55
missegg_varunendra: uh should I do that? I am not on a live drive06:55
Dr_Willismanik_:  and disable automatic login06:55
SupaSolhello06:55
varunendramissegg_, if you are running off the same partition, it shouldn't let you unmount it anyway. But I'm not very sure..06:56
miaqinashello06:56
missegg_varunendra: >_>06:56
Dr_Willismanik_:  your .dmrc file defines your last selection from the login screen.  there should be a gear icon  to select the sessions06:56
missegg_varunendra: woah06:56
missegg_varunendra: umount: cannot unmount /dev/sda6 -- /dev/sda1 is mounted over it on the same point06:56
varunendramissegg_, that's what baffled us as well :P06:57
manik_trying06:57
missegg_varunendra: Man, this is weird. Can I just restart? Shall I boot from the usb drive?06:58
varunendramissegg_, probably the only way to make things clear is a reboot. Are you sure both sda1 and sda6 contain bootable OSes?06:58
manik_Don't have gnome-control-center here (Lubuntu) Dr_Willis06:58
Dr_Willismanik_:  no idea what the lubuntu equilivent is.06:59
Dr_Williswhat desktop are you wanting to ise manik_ ?06:59
missegg_varunendra: Well I don't know for sure with sda1, since it always boots to sda6 anyway06:59
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manik_there must be a keyboard shortcut just after booting to bring that window, no? Dr_Willis06:59
varunendramissegg_, please wait a min..06:59
missegg_varunendra: But it has no errors and it appears to be a perfect clone06:59
missegg_oh06:59
missegg_ok06:59
Dr_Willismanik_:  not really. You have the loginmanager set to auto login.06:59
manik_LXDE and Openbox Dr_Willis06:59
Dr_Willismanik_:  you can change/rename your .dmrc file and it should go back to the system default07:00
manik_where should that file be? Dr_Willis07:00
Dr_Willismanik_:  in your home directory with all the other . (dot) files07:00
Dr_Willismanik_:  'mv .dmrc  backup.dmrc'  to rename it07:00
varunendramissegg_, a clone? I forgot that. Probably booting into a live session is a good idea. Other partitions won't mount automatically in it.07:01
varunendramissegg_, reboot with the USB, and let us know..07:01
missegg_varunendra: Yes. That's alright, I understand. i will be right back on the live drive.07:02
nefsationsome one can help me with port forwarding07:03
nefsation?07:03
manik_can't even open that now. Could you tell me its exact command to open the folder? (Sorry) Dr_Willis07:04
Dr_Willismanik_:  its a file.07:05
Dr_Willismanik_:  'mv .dmrc  backup.dmrc'   will rename the file07:05
manik_just that command? Dr_Willis07:05
Dr_Willisyes...07:05
manik_already did that07:05
manik_Should try and exit now Dr_Willis07:05
Dr_Willisso cat backup.dmrc    will show what was in it.  :) 2 lines i imagine07:05
Dr_Williswhat desktop are you wanting to use anyway?07:06
manik_LXDE which is there in Lubuntu by default07:06
Dr_Willisyep. it should seelct that as the default07:06
manik_somehow I entered Openbox, and couldn't go back07:06
Dr_Willisdisable auto login - its annoying. :)07:06
misseggHelp, I'm exhausted07:06
manik_:)07:07
misseggvarunendra07:07
varunendramissegg, so you're on live usb now?07:07
misseggvarunendra: Yessir07:07
Wiz_KeeDhey guys07:08
varunendramissegg, now please post the output of "sudo blkid" once more (the sda1, 2... may change in live session)07:08
misseggvarunendra: I just want my computer to boot to sda1 so I can make sure it works, expand it, and get rid of sda607:08
Wiz_KeeDI have two monitors in Ubuntu and I would like to setup a shortcut to move one application from a monitor to the other07:08
manik_Got it. Thanks, Dr_Willis!07:08
Wiz_KeeDI have used compizconfig in the past, is that the way to go?07:08
misseggvarunendra: Yessir07:08
varunendramissegg, from your previous output, it looked to me as if it is already booting from sda107:09
misseggvarunendra: It did not, I mounted sda107:09
misseggvarunendra: and I was using data that was not on sda107:10
varunendralets see the output then missegg07:10
sgo11I am not sure how I can call the screen shown by pressing "Start" or "Alt+F1" button. is that possible to launch that screen through command line? thanks.07:10
misseggvarunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144440/07:10
sgo11oh, I forgot to mention. I am using gnome3.07:10
misseggsgo11: Go to gnome for gnome questions07:11
varunendramissegg, please run Gparted and assign a label (like "part-6") to sda6, so that it can be easily identified.07:12
Dr_Willissgo11:  you may want to look at the gnome-shell extensions if thats what you are using.  theres lots of added stuff you can do07:13
misseggvarunendra: Done07:13
varunendramissegg, now close gparted, and see if you see two different partitions "Primary" and "<whatever you named the other>".07:14
varunendrain the file manager07:14
sgo11Dr_Willis, I don't think I need gnome-shell extension. thanks.07:14
Dr_Willissgo11:  perhaps find a list of gnomeshell shortcuts then? ;) i tried gnomeshell for a few weeks and gave up on it. ;P07:15
misseggvarunendra: I do07:15
sgo11let me try another question or way. is that possible to simulate a key press event in command line? I just want to write a script which can do the same thing when I press "start" button. thanks.07:16
varunendramissegg, what is the name of the other (for clarity)?07:16
misseggvarunendra: sda6 is Old Blood, sda1 is New Blood07:16
misseggDon't laugh07:16
sgo11Dr_Willis, I knew the shortcut. "Start" button or "Alt+F1" are doing the same thing. I just want to trigger that event with a command. thanks. :)07:16
varunendramissegg, I already did, and continuing... anyway, click the "Old Blood" to see its contents. Does it have an "etc" folder?07:17
Dr_Willissgo11:  its all in javascript.  If you are a java-scripting ninja perhaps.07:17
Dr_Willis;)07:17
misseggsgo11: in gparted?07:17
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misseggvarunendra: in gparted?07:18
misseggsgo11: disregard me07:18
sgo11Dr_Willis, I can do javascripting. but not sure how to achieve that in gnome. I will try gnome channel. thanks. :)07:18
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varunendramissegg, close gparted. Open the file manager (which is Nautilus I assume)07:18
sgo11missegg, :)07:18
misseggvarunendra: Shouldn't I mount them both?07:19
varunendramissegg, not yet07:19
misseggvarunendra: NVM07:19
manik_Anybody here could tell why LXDE goes back to the default wallpaper after a reboot?07:19
varunendramissegg, we want to verify the contents separately. That's the whole point of booting live07:20
peepshello, i have installed a dual boot of windows on my computer and now I can't get back into ubuntu.  i tried running "boot repair" but it doesn't seem to work07:20
misseggvarunendra: I know I know I said nevermind07:20
Dr_Willismanik_:  first guess. some ofyour setting files in your users home - are accidently owned by root. so the user can set the setting. but not write the changes to the file07:20
misseggvarunendra: am I pastebinning?07:20
varunendramissegg, the contents? No.07:20
misseggvarunendra: Well, I've got it open07:20
varunendramissegg, if there is the "etc" dir, pastebin the "fstab" file in it. (from Old Blood)07:21
misseggvarunendra:  I just asked that... okay07:21
manik_Dr_Willis Goes like this since installing the OS.07:21
qin_sgo11: xdotolls yuo after?07:22
Dr_Willismanik_:  test with a newly made user.. or look at the settings files.07:22
Dr_Willismanik_:  or both. ;)07:23
sgo11qin_, thanks. i am installing xdotools07:23
misseggvarunendra:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144465/07:23
sgo11qin_, "xdotool key Alt+F1" works very well. thanks.07:23
git-userThis is a new laptop that came with Ubuntu pre-installed. I enabled security repository and updated linux-image-generic and linux-headers-generic, but I got an "Bad return status for module build on kernel" error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144468/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144464/07:23
manik_hehe okay Dr_Willis07:23
varunendramissegg, now unmount this partition (click on the "Eject" button) > mount the "New Blood" and pastebin the "etc/fstab" from that one.07:24
miaqinaspeeps> hello, i have installed a dual boot of windows on my computer and now I can't get back into ubuntu.  i tried running "boot repair" but it doesn't seem to work07:24
zexcrizwhen ever i am installing any softwares i am getting this error ->  Erros were encoutered while processing : man-db cups, hplip, hplip-gui.07:24
varunendramissegg, NVM ;P07:24
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misseggvarunendra:  They both automounted anyway07:25
zexcrizany help it's been more than week but no solution yet :(07:25
misseggvarunendra:  -1777- is New Blood's uuid07:26
auscompgeekmiaqinas: sounds like you need to fix grub07:26
auscompgeek!dualboot07:26
ubottuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot07:26
wilee-nileemiaqinas, You save the bootinfo summary url?07:26
miaqinasno..07:27
wilee-nileemiaqinas, Is the windows install W8?07:27
root32i installed ubuntu 12.4 , but when start Say : Error Load operating system.. , why ?07:27
varunendramissegg, and you want to boot from sda1? Not (read "Never") from sda6?07:27
auscompgeekroot32: could you send us the exact error message you get?07:28
misseggvarunendra:  uuh07:28
misseggvarunendra: I want to boot from sda107:28
miaqinasno..i dint installing W807:28
auscompgeekzexcriz: tried apt-get -f ?07:28
misseggvarunendra: but I still want to be able to check it agains sda607:28
auscompgeekmiaqinas: take a look at the first link ubottu sent above07:28
miaqinask thank you very much07:29
wilee-nileemiaqinas, run the bootinfo summary in the bootrepair app only and post the url that is made to it.07:29
misseggvarunendra: there was a small error when I was cloning. i checked the disk, but I still want to be 100% sure it's a good clone07:29
varunendramissegg, do you have both the partitions mounted? We need to edit or swap both the fstab files.07:30
misseggvarunendra: yess07:30
varunendramissegg, close the file manager, and open it as root (gksu nautilus).07:31
misseggvarunendra: yessir07:31
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root32auscompgeek: Sorry , it Say : Missing Operating System..07:31
misseggvarunendra: next?07:31
miaqinasso..to make dual OS..need a make partitiona 1st?07:31
git-usersorry, got disconnected, say again.07:31
git-userothers are facing similar problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/330979/wireless-adapter-connection-error07:32
varunendramissegg, now browse to one fstab, cut-paste it to the desktop > browse to the other > cut-paste it to where the first was > move the desktop one to the second one's location.07:32
varunendramissegg, so that both are swapped07:32
misseggvarunendra: Why am I doing that?07:32
varunendramissegg, because each one needs to reflect the UUID of the partition it is on.07:33
zexcrizauscompgeek,  apt-get -f ? what should i do ?07:33
miaqinasInstalling Ubuntu after Windows..i got it..thanks07:33
varunendramissegg, currently, both are mounting the other partition, not the one they themselves are on.07:34
root32After the ubuntu install error message : Missing Operating System :(07:34
auscompgeekroot32: you'll have do a boot repair07:35
misseggvarunendra: It is done my liege07:35
auscompgeekzexcriz: open a terminal and type in sudo apt-get -f07:35
auscompgeekzexcriz: hopefully that'll fix things07:35
root32auscompgeek: how to do it?07:35
Dr_Willisroot32:  could be you are booting the wrong hard drive. or need to use that boot-repair tool to fix it07:35
Dr_Willisroot32:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair07:36
SpeedFire_laptopa boot repair ? why ?07:36
varunendramissegg, now reboot with the hard disk this time, don't mount any partitions after booting, and check if "sda1" is mounted ("mount" command). I assume only sda6 will mount, which we'll fix then07:36
misseggvarunendra: Do I attempt to boot to sda1?07:37
misseggvarunendra: or do I let it go to sda607:37
varunendramissegg, do you get the grub menu?07:37
misseggvarunendra: Always have07:38
varunendramissegg, do you have the other one listed already?07:38
zexcrizauscompgeek, sudo apt-get -f does nothing, it's an uncomplete command.07:38
misseggvarunendra: Yes07:38
zexcrizs/uncomplete/incomplete07:38
usr13missegg: Shift Key07:38
varunendramissegg, then go ahead, boot the one on sda107:38
misseggvarunendra: I try to choose sda1 but it never goes to it07:38
misseggvarunendra: It always boots to sda6 as normal07:39
varunendramissegg, this time it should07:39
misseggvarunendra: okay07:39
misseggbrb07:39
* Dr_Willis hands varunendra a cookie07:42
* varunendra desperately needed it ;P07:42
Dr_Willisvarunendra:  this is going on like 6 hrs now.07:42
varunendraDr_Willis, height of expectations sometimes.. :)07:43
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misseggUgh07:43
misseggBeing Egg is suffering07:44
varunendramissegg, fresh output of mount? Any better?07:44
misseggvarunendra: no07:44
misseggvarunendra: Exactly the same as it's been for the past four hours07:44
varunendramissegg, let's see it then07:44
misseggvarunendra: It's sda607:45
misseggvarunendra: I have to sleep07:45
varunendramissegg, Please do - "sudo update-grub", then reboot (I hate to say that word, but..) and try booting to the other one (sda6)07:46
varunendraohsosoft, okay missegg07:46
misseggvarunendra: okay okay07:46
wilee-nileeI would just use super grub to see if sda1 boots it had an error in the copy.07:46
varunendraohsosoft, sorry, didn't mean you07:46
misseggwilee-nilee: Hm?07:47
misseggwilee-nilee: I thought it might have, but I checked it for errors07:47
misseggbrb rebooting07:47
wilee-nileemissegg, Has sda1 ever booted yet?07:48
misseggwilee-nilee: No07:48
varunendrawilee-nilee, if they never did an "update-grub", I would think it is all normal behaviour, the sda1 listing in grub menu could be a result of messed up fstab.07:48
misseggI did update-grub multiple times07:48
varunendramissegg, once more :)07:48
misseggok.07:49
misseggbrb07:49
wilee-nileesure, but an easy check by manually booting it or using super grub to it would answer a few questions, if it boot load grub to the mbr from its desktop and confirm the fstab.07:49
wilee-nileeboots*07:49
varunendrawilee-nilee, perhaps the next, probably the last recommendation would be boot-repair? I think it can easily fix it all.07:50
varunendraalthough I may attempt doing it manually with "grub-install"07:51
varunendrafrom live session07:51
wilee-nileeyeah might do it, clones in the same HD are a tough one, even if you change the uuid, we have to assume that change worked right.07:51
missegg_Nope nope nope07:51
missegg_tears for Egg, tears eternal07:52
varunendramissegg_, mount shows both sda1 and sda6 mounted? or just sda6?07:52
missegg_varunendraL07:52
missegg_varunendra: the same as the last four freaking hours07:53
missegg_varunendra: just sda107:53
missegg_varunendra: just sda607:53
missegg_varunendra: I meant 607:53
varunendramissegg_, I'm confused. Only sda6, right? That's expected07:53
missegg_varunendra: JUST SDA607:54
missegg_varunendra: EVEN THOUGH I CHOSE SDA107:54
missegg_varunendra: AND WANT SDA107:54
varunendramissegg_, forget what your current grub menu tells you. We only need to make sure only one partitions is mounted which it currently is..07:55
varunendranow the rest of the things should be easy..07:55
missegg_varunendra: THERE IS BUT ONE07:55
missegg_varunendra: it's definitely and absolutely sda607:56
wilee-nileemissegg_, Have you run sudo update-grub from the original sda^?07:56
wilee-nileesda6*07:56
missegg_wilee-nilee: Many many times07:56
missegg_wilee-nilee: As I said earlier07:56
wilee-nileemissegg_, It is reading the same grub info from sda1 I think07:56
missegg_This is stupid. Why is it so damn hard to create a new partition, put an OS on it, and boot to it07:57
varunendramissegg_, let's just reinstall grub, with correct config this time (hopefully)07:57
missegg_varunendra: I did that earlier and it did nothing07:58
varunendramissegg_, how did you do it? And earlier, your fstab wasn't correct as far as I know07:58
wilee-nileevarunendra, I would chroot sda1 and purge and reload grub and then its bootloader to the mbr07:58
missegg_varunendra: with boot-repair like Dr_Willis said07:59
varunendrawilee-nilee, how about "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/<mountpoint of sda1> sda" ??07:59
wilee-nileevarunendra, Might work, if not I would purge it, persoanlly I would do it all since you would be chrooted in is all.08:00
varunendramissegg_, please open the file manager and confirm that "New Blood" is not already mounted.08:00
perpustakaanfibugjhfh08:00
missegg_For some reason New Blood is mounted now08:00
perpustakaanfibugfjhfgjhfgjh08:00
varunendramissegg_, already?08:00
missegg_After running boot-repair, yeah08:00
missegg_I can actually go to its directory now08:01
missegg_It's not doing something crazy like earlier08:01
varunendramissegg_, I would think that it corrected it now.08:01
varunendrasince the fstab is fixed08:01
missegg_varunendra: So now what08:01
varunendrareboot to check, if not fixed yet, we'll do it manually08:02
missegg_uuuuuuuuugh08:02
missegg_brb08:02
varunendrawilee-nilee, I've never tried chroot, so it just scares me ;P08:03
varunendraalthough theoretically it seems the perfect remedy08:04
tiffany22Hi there, can somebody help me please. I have serious problem with my browsers08:04
lkthomashey guys, is there have any program help to connect cifs or nfs ?08:05
varunendra!details | tiffany2208:06
ubottutiffany22: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."08:06
tiffany22ok, so facebook and youtube render weird.. like it's only text, no images or CSS styles08:06
wilee-nileevarunendra, Yeah, I use this when I chroot it has one all in one command #8 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot08:06
tiffany22same problem on both Chrome and Firefox08:06
tiffany22some other sites work ok, some have same problem08:07
lkthomasunity seem not that user friendly08:07
teeenoooWhat would Jesus do if my kernel crashed?08:08
wilee-nileelkthomas, It's not the same as gnome 2 is all.08:08
wilee-nileepray08:08
lkthomaswilee-nilee: tools is not enough08:08
* lkthomas go ahead to install KDE instead08:09
Dr_Willislkthomas:  cifs = samba shares right? Nautilus has the connect to server.... feature  and can browse windows shares here08:09
teeenooowilee-nilee: Why would he pray??08:09
lkthomasDr_Willis: not work against active directory login08:09
wilee-nileelkthomas, Not sure what you mean, but use what works for you, I use the shell with a dock and synapse.08:09
Dr_Williscant say ive ever used actve directory on my home lan. ;)08:09
lkthomasha08:09
misseggI am in the same fucking place I was four hours ago but with four hours less sleep to show for it08:10
teeenooomissegg: Issue?08:10
Dr_Willisgnome-shells   gnome-2 classic mode thing. in 13.10 - isent too bad a change from good old gnome2(ick) ;P08:10
tiffany22can somebody tell me how to fix my problem with sites rendering without images?08:11
teeenoooOh that's easy!08:11
teeenoooFix your Apache server or fix your URL link to those images08:12
tiffany22what? how am i supposed to fix my url to all images on facebook?08:12
teeenoooOh08:13
teeenoooThat's a ssl issue, look into that08:14
misseggVarunendra08:14
misseggVarunendra I'm dead08:14
tiffany22SSL Issue? what's that?08:14
varunendramissegg, yup. I can feel that ;)08:14
misseggVarunendra I'm going to jump off a building08:14
varunendramissegg, so wanna try more or break for now?08:14
varunendramissegg, hope you brushed the teeth in the meanwhile..08:15
tiffany22This is how most sites look in my browsers http://i.imgur.com/bTArshd.png08:15
misseggVarunendra: I will just have to deal with a 99% full partition08:15
misseggVarunendra: Because this is like the sixth fucking time I've come to this channel and wasted hours and hours getting absolutely no farther on this08:16
wilee-nileetiffany22, same in firefox?08:16
aeon-ltdmissegg: what's the problem?08:16
IdleOne!language | missegg08:16
ubottumissegg: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.08:16
varunendramissegg, if you want to take a break, I'd suggest to post a thread in ubuntuforums.org and post all the details there. Sometimes a fresh mind can do miracles, and a tired one can do 'different' kind of miracles.. ;P08:16
aeon-ltdmissegg: you should post on the forum if you don't want to use up too much time08:16
tiffany22wilee-nilee: yes :(08:16
misseggIdleOne when families actually go to IRC channels I will care more08:16
wilee-nileetiffany22, Has it been this way from the beginning, what caused it do you know?08:17
IdleOnemissegg: I understand you are frustrated but that is no reason to use bad language, not to mention it is part of the guidelines of the channel.08:17
aeon-ltdit's not families it's <18 in general, plus anyone can find it offensive08:17
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varunendramissegg, ubuntu has it's culture nonetheless08:17
tiffany22wilee-nilee: no, it was working okay for several months, it started happening few days ago08:18
misseggIt's 4am, culture has left me.08:18
aeon-ltdmissegg: what's the problem again?08:18
varunendramissegg, so a break or try more right now?08:18
wilee-nileetiffany22, Make a new user and see if it is the same there.08:18
tiffany22wilee-nilee: okay08:18
varunendraaeon-ltd, cloned a root partition, can't boot into the desired one now, that's all with missegg08:19
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misseggaeon-ltd: I installed Ubuntu. i installed eOS (ubuntu with another DE) on an extended partition. I liked that better. I used it instead. I deleted the old one. I tried to expand it to the whole disk. I was told that was impossible. i cloned it to a new primary. I can't boot to the primary08:19
smallcathello08:20
ikoniamissegg: sadly we don't support eOS here08:21
aeon-ltdmissegg: why not just start partitioning again, but this time just migrate data by copying the files you need instead of cloning?08:21
ikoniamissegg: so your clonding/re-setup of Eos will need to be handled by their support resources please.08:21
aeon-ltdmissegg: also does grub show no options then?08:21
misseggaeon-ltd: Grub shows it08:21
misseggaeon-ltd: I select it, it boots to sda6 anyway08:22
ikoniaguys, please take it to a private chat session or to the eOS support channels08:22
misseggikonia: Shut the fuck up. They are the same damn operating system. I did not spend four hours hear for you to whine incessantly about a trivial detail.08:23
aeon-ltdmissegg: besides manual copying post reinstall i can't think of a cleaner way to do this right now08:23
aeon-ltdbeing an asshole doesn't help08:23
aeon-ltdoh08:23
ikoniaaeon-ltd: easy there, he's gone now08:23
* cfhowlett ... thinks "Dang it! Missed all the fun ... again!"08:24
tiffany22wilee-nilee: it doesn't work on other account08:24
wilee-nileetiffany22, Hmm, we have had kernel updates lately, have you tried an earlier kernel from the grub menu?08:24
dejanfchi, does anyone know of a good web based frontend for openssl?08:25
tiffany22wilee-nilee: no.. should this help?08:25
ikoniadejanfc: front end for openssl ? what do you mean ?08:25
dejanfcto issue certs08:25
dejanfcinstead of typing it out in cli08:25
ikoniano, but you may want to try #openssl08:25
dejanfccheers08:26
wilee-nileetiffany22, It's hard to say, some info that may of caused it would help me, I have to some what guess since you are getting some of the web page.08:26
tiffany22wilee-nilee: I just noticed that same thing is happening on my android08:26
tiffany22wilee-nilee: could this be cause by some problems from ISP?08:27
wilee-nileetiffany22, we had a flash update lately as well, but that was chrome you showed it has its own flash. Hard to say about the ISP.08:27
auscompgeekzexcriz: oops. sudo apt-get install -f08:30
auscompgeekzexcriz: sorry about that, got sidetracked with other stuff08:30
zexcrizauscompgeek, even executing those command i am getting the same error.08:32
zexcrizany experienced ubuntu user ? i can't find any way to solve this :(08:33
auscompgeekzexcriz: what were you installing the first time you started getting these messages?08:34
pop_Hi.. I just had my ubuntu server crashed.. It was completely stuck so I had to do hardware reset.. Now when I check the logs, there is nothing there... Actually it looks like it crashed while writing to log because there is half written log data (half line of data and it continues with with another entry!) in many log files..!08:34
cfhowlett!ubuntu-server|pop_,08:35
ubottupop_,: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server08:35
zexcrizauscompgeek, don't remember exactly as this is the error i am getting from over a month.08:35
irssi-mikepop_: did it run out of space08:35
wilee-nileezexcriz, the command is sudo apt-get -f install but have you changed the sources.list at all in this?08:35
pop_irssi-mike: No, there should be 50+ gigabytes space still08:36
wilee-nileezexcriz, What ubuntu release is it, as well?08:36
zexcrizwilee-nilee, i have not changed anything. i am using ubuntu 13.0408:36
zexcrizin sources.list08:36
wilee-nileezexcriz, run sudo apt-get update and pastebin all of it/08:37
zexcrizwilee-nilee, sudo apt--get update goes fine no errors in it.08:37
wilee-nileezexcriz, So it is a specific install right, which is? is there a ppa involved?08:38
Ben64zexcriz: pastebin it anyway08:38
zexcrizwilee-nilee, even not using any specific ppa.08:38
zexcrizok08:39
wilee-nileezexcriz, so run sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin all of it.08:39
zexcrizwilee-nilee, ok doing it08:39
grammoboyI cant install packages http://fpaste.org/41464/92583513/08:44
zexcrizhttp://dpaste.com/1392566/08:44
zexcrizBen64, wilee-nilee ^08:44
paramhow to add user hduser (hadoop user) into sudoers file08:45
wilee-nileegrammoboy, seems important, "No space left on device"08:45
ikoniagrammoboy: you're out of disk space08:45
Gentoo64param: to allow root use?08:45
paramyes probably08:45
cfhowlettgrammoboy, time to clean up.  sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove should help08:45
grammoboyikonia: http://fpaste.org/41465/99259361/08:45
Gentoo64param: you could add it to the wheel group08:46
parami got the error : hduser is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.08:46
parami was trying to edit a file in etc08:46
cfhowlettgrammoboy, yep.  you've definitely filled that HDD!08:46
ikoniagrammoboy: yes, no space there08:46
ikoniaGentoo64: it's not the wheel group08:47
grammoboyheh where do you see 100%?08:47
paramcan you please tel me the command to add this hduser into sudoers08:47
Gentoo64ikonia: ok08:47
ikoniagrammoboy:look at the %96 - and how much space is left08:47
ikoniaparam: the "sudo" gropu08:47
ikoniagroup08:47
Gentoo64normally wheel will let you08:47
ikoniano08:47
Ben64Gentoo64: not on ubuntu08:47
paramwheel ?08:47
Gentoo64no thats why i said normally08:48
ikoniaGentoo64: have you looked at the sudoers file in ubuntu ?08:48
Ben64then why even say it here?08:48
ikoniaparam: add the user to the "sudo" group08:48
paramhow to add it ?08:48
cfhowlettgrammoboy, 96% + system reserved by ubuntu of about 5% = 101%08:48
ikoniaparam: user the user admin gui08:48
paramis tht the comand ?08:48
wilee-nileezexcriz, the info in the dist-upgrade should be helpful, I'm not quite sure how to read that and offer help. My wonder is how and where that broken stuff came from.08:49
zexcrizwilee-nilee, it's been quite long time i am facing this prob.08:50
zexcrizthe prob is with the man-db package08:50
zexcrizif i remove it everything works fine08:51
wilee-nileezexcriz, What was the original install, and where is it from?08:51
zexcrizwilee-nilee, can't get you ?08:51
HanCan somebody turn on http://doc.ubuntu.com again? :P08:52
cfhowlettHan, http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://doc.ubuntu.com08:52
wilee-nileezexcriz, this stuff, you have 6 broken packages. /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/File.pm08:52
wilee-nileewhatever that is attached to, I don't recognize exactly what it is, whatever you removed did not get everything is my guess,08:53
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wilee-nileezexcriz, I'm not sure what you mean by "if i remove it everything works fine" this happens then when you try a install of the same thing again?08:55
Hancfhowlett, you tell me something which I already know. It's down.08:55
zexcrizwilee-nilee, when i am install man-db packages probs are created08:55
zexcrizthen i can't install even a single package.08:55
grammoboychicken egg problem http://fpaste.org/41467/79926542/08:55
zexcrizbut after removing it atleast i can install and remove the packaged though the errors remain.08:56
oaulakhhow to install nvidia driver08:56
oaulakh?08:56
cfhowlett!nvidia|oaulakh,08:56
zexcrizgrammoboy, may be your / partition is full ?08:56
ubottuoaulakh,: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto08:56
wilee-nileezexcriz, Ah, I have never messed with that I rarely use man, so just not sure.08:56
cfhowlettzexcriz, tis.  trying to clean it out ...08:57
zexcrizwilee-nilee, even i have not messed with it, but when i started getting errors, i figured out that by removing man-db i can atleast install stuff.08:57
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cfhowlettgrammoboy, are you dual booting ?08:57
grammoboydon t think so08:58
cfhowlettgrammoboy, does this computer also run windows?08:58
wilee-nileezexcriz, Wish I could figure it out, I gotta crash, hope you get it resolved.08:58
grammoboyno why?08:58
varunendragrammoboy, please show us the output of  "df -h"08:59
cfhowlettgrammoboy, would have suggested you repartition to add some space but since you don't ...08:59
grammoboyhttp://fpaste.org/41465/99259361/09:00
cfhowlettgrammoboy, this is going to sound crazy but ... are you running fedora?09:00
grammoboythat sounds crazy09:00
grammoboycome on guys, ive a full disk but cant use autoremove09:01
grammoboychicken egg that is09:01
cfhowlettgrammoboy, that doesn't answer the question.  your paste says "fedora" so ... are you running fedora?09:01
ikoniagrammoboy: "clean down the disk"09:01
ikoniagrammoboy: look at what's using the space, clear it down, exeand the partition,09:02
paramproblem solved thanks :)09:02
eleasar221I am using Sony VAIO VPCEB24EN laptop. After installing Ubuntu 12.04 or Lubuntu 13.04 my laptop CPU makes a terrible noise.09:03
eleasar221Please advise how to fix this.09:03
cfhowletteleasar22, lubricate the fan?09:04
cfhowletteleasar22, for the record, cpu's don't make audible noise under normal circumstances ...09:04
Dr_Willisunless you got uber hearing and can hear the electrons zipping around? ;)09:05
eleasar221 @cfhowlett: no boss09:05
varunendraDr_Willis, or unless it is cracking with heat.. :P09:05
zippo^why has ubuntu 12.04 installed little theme's as Radiance , Ambiance?09:06
zippo^I want Human theme too09:06
eleasar221@cfhowlett: cpu making noise after installing lubuntu but no noise when using windows 709:06
Dr_Williseleasar221:  now the cpu or video FAN running at high speed - is a common bug in linux.09:07
varunendraeleasar221, what is your graphics card. Is everything performing nicely other than the sound?09:07
cfhowletteleasar221, cpu's don't make noise within the range of human hearing ...09:09
eleasar221@varunendra: ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5145 Graphics09:09
eleasar221@varunendra: any advise please? Graphics card : ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5145 Graphics09:10
eleasar221Thanks cfhowlett09:10
varunendraeleasar221, not very familiar with graphics drivers, but I think the proprietary fglrx drivers work better than the native radeon driver (or it's the opposite of it)09:10
cfhowlett!ati09:11
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto09:11
varunendraeleasar221, are you using the proprietary driver for it?09:11
Soul_Samplewell, that's the case usually. i get really high temperatures when using anything but the proprietary driver09:11
eleasar221@varunendra: no09:12
varunendraeleasar221, probably the link cfhowlett gave can offer better help than I can, but does "Additional Drivers" program offer any proprietary driver for it?09:12
varunendraeleasar221, see Soul_Sample 's testimony for the proprietary drivers (although it is not 'always' the case with everything) ;)09:14
fotoport-1i need help09:15
eleasar221ok varunendra..thanks09:15
Soul_Samplelol testimony :D but yeah, I can cook on my laptop before installing fglrx09:15
varunendranp :)09:15
kk_hi09:16
kk_test09:16
kk_test for first chat09:16
kk_never09:16
cfhowletteleasar221, choose your battles.  Sounds like 2 issues are in play;  the fan is running long & loud and the graphics driver may be wrong.  Those 2 problems have been observed to occur together.  First see to your graphics.  That might fix the fan issue.09:16
fotoport-1on all versions starting with 11, two and a printer attached to one computer do not print. Printing stops when you send a job to the second printer. Printers epson T50 . I put ubuntu 11.04 11.10  12.04 Ubuntu Saucy Salamander 13.10. yesterday tried to run on 12.04  /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf     blacklist usblp   did not work and divided into groups09:16
cfhowlett!test|kk_, yes we see you.09:17
ubottukk_, yes we see you.: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )09:17
kk_many thanks09:17
eleasar221Okay cfhowlett. I will check.. Thank u so much09:18
cfhowletteleasar221, take your time and follow the steps.  I suspect it's an easy, if difficult to localize, fix.09:18
eleasar221Sure cfhowlett.. Thanks09:20
fotoport-1somebody help me?09:23
mooperdWhat is the current Ubuntu kernel?09:24
mooperdis the main release on 3.1 yet?09:24
Dr_Willis13.10  has 3.11.0-7-generic  I dont think 13.04 has  that new a kenrel. yet. ;)09:28
ActionParsnipmooperd: what is the 'main release'?09:31
mooperdActionParsnip: er 13.04 I guess?09:31
ActionParsnipmooperd: thats just the latest stable, nothing 'main' about it09:32
IdleOne13.04 is using 3.8.0-3109:32
mooperdIdleOne: Slightly more advanced than the redhat folks then09:32
user258467Hi, when I try to add a printer via General Settings interface I have a blank interface and I can't add anything like I have not the permissions what can I do?09:33
ActionParsnipuser258467: http://localhost:63109:33
user258467ActionParsnip, works like a charm09:33
cfhowlettfotoport-1,^^^^ see that link for your needs as well.09:34
ActionParsnipuser258467: old school09:34
fotoport-1<cfhowlett> ,I do not see the link09:38
cfhowletthttp://localhost:63109:39
muindorhey all09:40
cfhowlettmuindor, greetings09:41
fotoport-1cfhowlett, this administration. That there?09:41
cfhowlettfotoport-1, yep.  add your printers again and test09:42
firstroadhi09:42
muindorhave some kind of problem with installing ubuntu server. got an ibm hardware server here for testing. i set up the raid in bios (lsi megaraid) by setting device options from ide to raid and created a raid 1. now after doing this and trying to boot from the cd, it just kicks me right into some grub shell instead of the usual menue (install ubuntu, install in expert mode etc). im not sure how to go on from this grub shell now09:42
cfhowlett!ubuntu-server|muindor,09:42
ubottumuindor,: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server09:42
firstroadi have a netbook (toshiba nb200 13j) and its card reader is not working? any advice?09:43
Dr_Willisfirstroad:  on my older netbooks - i had to pass a kernel option to get the readers working.09:44
Dr_Willisfirstroad:  id check askubuntu.com for the exact make/model and se eif others have had the same issue09:44
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Dr_Willisfirstroad:  sadly with mine. I had to have a sd card in at boot time for it to read it. It couldent/wouldent read it if i later removed/reinserted it. (not tried that netbook lately however)09:45
ActionParsnipfirstroad: reboot with an SD card out of the system, log in and let the OS settle. push in an SD card, wait 5 seconds and run:  dmesg | tail -n 10    do you see messages reflecting a reaction by the OS?09:51
jeetpeiHelloo all09:51
cfhowlettjeetpei, greetings09:51
zippo^has someone expierence that firefox via www.mozilla.com install on ubuntu without ppa or software center?09:52
ActionParsnipfirstroad: also, make sure the BIOS is up to date09:52
cfhowlettzippo^, NO idea what you're talking about ...09:52
cfhowlett!details|zippo^,09:52
ActionParsnipzippo^: i've installed using the downloaded file from mozilla.com etc09:52
jeetpeii want to create a script which create a number of files suppose 1.txt 2.txt and should have input such as 1.txt have One and 2.txt have Two ?09:53
jeetpeiany idea ?09:53
ubottuzippo^,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."09:53
jeetpei<cfhowlett> :09:53
zippo^cfhowlett, : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion/MozillaBuilds09:53
jeetpeicfhowlett : any idea09:53
ActionParsnipjeetpei: so the file has a list of file names to create?09:53
zippo^I did firefox on /opt and /usr/bin. it works great. but must I do more setting, ActionParsnip ?09:54
cfhowlettzippo^, ah, so this is to install FIREFOX  not ubunut.09:54
jeetpeiActionParsnip: actually i need each file .. suppose 1.txt have string One and 2.txt have Two .. show on09:54
zippo^exec "\$HOME/firefox/firefox" -P mozilla-build "\$@" .. that must be /opt/firefox/firefox. Shall I type: "exec "\$opt/firefox/firefox" -P  mozilla-build "\$@", ActionParsnip ?09:55
firstroadActionParsnip did you get my messages?09:58
ActionParsnipjeetpei: so the files have half the file name to be made?09:58
ActionParsnipfirstroad: yes10:00
jeetpeiActionParsnip: i guess i am not getting you, let me explain .. i am creating some random file .. but problem is that /dev/urandom generate data which is not readable .. and i cant apply some searching and sorting function .. .. i what i am thinking is .. i create random file but each file should have readable string .. say i create 1.txt 2.txt 3.txt and each file have string One, Two, Three in it ..10:01
jeetpeiis it possible10:01
jeetpeiActionParsnip: here is what i am doing right now10:03
jeetpeihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6144876/10:03
ActionParsnipjeetpei: sure, you can use a simple bash loop10:03
mn2010mmhmm, and just have it output unixfortune cookie data if you want some readable data10:03
jeetpeiActionParsnip: i am not aware about this can you please give me more info ?10:03
ActionParsnipjeetpei: you'll need a variable which increases, there may be a bash command to make words of a number, you can then add that to the filename10:04
jeetpeiActionParsnip: can you please give some more info .. i am kind of confuse here !! sorry10:05
ActionParsnipjeetpei: I'd ask in #bash10:06
jeetpeiok Thanks a lot10:06
niklasI just installed Ubuntu 13.04 on my pc. In the start when I plugged my Razer Taipan into the computer it worked fine, but now it can move, but wont click. Do I need to update some drivers, or?10:07
firstroadset scollback_save_formats = ON10:10
firstroadoups10:10
firstroadsorry10:10
cfhowlettniklas, run updates and also see your "additional drivers" under system settings.  there may be a better driver for your device.10:11
niklasThanks m8 :)10:11
legend123Hi there. I have a old pc that doesn't support USB boot and it's DVD drive is broken. So only solution for me to install ubuntu on it is to take its hard drive to my new PC and install ubuntu on it there. My question is, if i put that hard disk back to my old pc again, will it cause any conficts since the drivers related to motherboard etc. were installed related to new pc?10:11
Dr_Willisniklas:  normally you dont need any drivers.  by 'in the start' you mean it worked on the live cd. but not the installed system? or did it work on the installed system, then stopped?10:11
ActionParsniplegend123: do you have a floppy drive?10:11
legend123nope10:12
Dr_Willislegend123:  ive moved hd's befor. with vey few issues. HOWEVER. how old is that pc? does its cpu support PAE? thats needed by the newer releases of ubuntu10:12
ActionParsniplegend123: you can install in one PC then transfer the drive over, that's very doable10:12
niklasIn the start i ment after I installed the live CD, it worked for like 10 hours, but the next day (yesterday) it just stopped working10:12
vltlegend123: It should work. You might have to delete the persistent-net file in udev rules because your NIC’s MAC address is different.10:13
legend123Thanks. Dr_Willis: Yes, it does.10:13
niklasI can easly move my mouse around on the screen, but it refuses to click, nethier right nor left10:13
cfhowlettniklas, right, it's not working properly.   we get that.  so ... try the suggested fixes?10:14
Dr_Willisgot a razer deathadder here. ;) i did find some 'server/config' tool for it that let me tweak it a bit. turn off lights and so forth.10:15
jmpiloqhi all10:15
jmpiloqanyone got convirt working?10:15
niklasI'm on it  :)10:15
* cfhowlett ... thinks "deathadder" is an ... uncomfortable name for a device that I'm expected to wrap y delicate hand around.;10:15
Dr_Willishttp://bues.ch/cms/hacking/razercfg.html ;)10:15
Dr_Williscfhowlett:  yep. but it was on sale for like $2510:18
Dr_Willisand that was like 1/3 the normal cost.10:18
cfhowlettDr_Willis, alright then.  frag away!10:18
Dr_Willisits so senestive its over kill for my desktop.10:18
Dr_Willis3500dpi = one inch travel - across both my monitors. ;)10:19
niklascfhowlett, it dosen't work. But sometimes when I plug my mouse it works, but when I go to the menubar in the top it wont click again. Just tried it.. I have googled and searched for like 2 days, so I hope you can help me :=)10:19
cfhowlettniklas, DID YOU CHECK ADDITIONAL DRIVERS?10:19
stlutest12310:19
Dr_Willisniklas:  so if you unplug/plug it back in. some times it does work?10:19
oaulakhhow to install notepad++ in ubuntu10:19
stluI am unable to make a post in the forums.  I get a "VBulletin message" that is totally blank.  Arrgh, this is frustrating!10:19
cfhowlettniklas, asked with a smile :)10:19
oaulakhwith apt-get10:19
niklasYes I did, cfhowlett10:19
Dr_Willisoaulakh:  isent that a windows application?10:20
niklasAnd yes I have tried that several times, Dr_willis10:20
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Dr_Willisniklas:  yes it does some times work? or no it never works?10:20
dkeouihow can i dd just the last GB of a drive?10:20
oaulakhyes it is, but i know it works on linux too10:20
oaulakhbut dunno how to install it10:20
dkeouithe drive's size is 160041885184 bytes.10:20
Dr_Willisoaulakh:  if theres a linux Native port.. ive not seen it..  have you> or you use wine to install the iwndows version10:20
oaulakhany c/c++ ide for ubuntu from apt-get10:21
niklasSometimes, when I rightclick first, I can left click onces10:21
niklasAnd other times it just dosen't work10:21
Dr_Willisoaulakh:  theres dozens of IDE's in the repos10:21
Dr_Willis!info geany10:21
ubottugeany (source: geany): fast and lightweight IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.22+dfsg-2ubuntu1 (raring), package size 1052 kB, installed size 2519 kB10:21
oaulakhgeany is an ide ,its a  text editor so please tell another10:21
Dr_Willisand i would call notepad++ a text editor also.10:22
Dr_Willisso go look for your self i guess.10:22
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oaulakhhahaha dont angry10:22
oaulakhplease tell if you know anything10:22
stluhello? any idea why I'm unable to stay logged in, can't make any posts on ubuntuforums.org?10:22
Dr_Willisgeany calls itself an ide.. so i wonder who knows.. the writers.. or us.10:23
Dr_Willisits about all i ever use.10:23
cfhowlettstlu, might need to re-register.  recent hack made many users reset10:23
legend123I have read that USB flash drives have  limited write/erase cycles and after that they give up. Now if i boot Ubuntu Live using a USB flash drive, would it greatly limit its life? What's your experiences?10:23
oaulakhthe how to compile c program in geany10:23
oaulakh?10:23
Dr_Willislegend123:  ive never managed to  wear out a usb yet.. and i use them a lot.10:23
stlucfhowlett: recent hack? like a modification, or unauthorized alteration?10:24
Dr_Willislegend123:  i do full normal installs to them and have yet to ware one out..  now WASH one out.. in my pants pocket. ;) done that befor..10:24
legend123heh great10:24
Dr_Willislegend123:   I have 4gb usbs that are quite old and still working fine10:24
oaulakhDr_Willis: how i compile c in geany?10:24
Dr_Willislegend123:  plus - really. they are getting dirt cheap.10:24
stlucfhowlett: because I only get logged out when I click "Submit new Thread" -- and therefore lose everything I wrote!!!10:24
lkeijserhi, I'm trying to install an ubuntu 1204 server via preseed and get a dependency problem. Apparently it asks for accountsservice 0.6.15-2ubuntu9.5 but I can't find this in any mirror ...10:25
Dr_Willisoaulakh:  check its docs/help yet?  I generally only code in perl these days (rarely any more at that)10:25
lkeijserhow do I find out where (on which mirror) this package is?10:25
cfhowlettstlu, forums were hacked in June or July.  Many users had to re-register.  Try it.10:25
oaulakhok10:25
ActionParsniplkeijser: apt-cache policy packagename10:25
legend123Dr_Willis: I think that live ubuntu USB drive doesn't constitute write/erase cycle unless its persistent. Am i right?10:25
stluI DID re-register, I have a SSO, but t10:25
stluI only stay logged in until I press "Submit new thread"10:26
Dr_Willislegend123:  yep. you can still access/write to the fat32 part of th eusb if you wanted.10:26
lkeijserActionParsnip: this is via preseed, so no apt-cache available10:26
Dr_Willislegend123:  i even put swap on my USB ;) a big no-no.. and haven ruined one yet.10:26
cfhowlettstlu, OK.  Don't know why it's doing that.  try tomorrow.  If still acting up, contact the forum teams10:26
stluAnd a few weeks ago I DID make successful posts, this is a new problem this week, or maybe the past 30 minutes10:26
Dr_Willislegend123:  but they are cheap. :) eveyr xmas the wife buys me a few more10:26
varunendrastlu, there is an "autosave" feature in the forum software. So you shouldn't loose anything you typed.10:27
legend123lol10:27
ActionParsniplkeijser: oic10:27
varunendrastlu, did your last post take more than two hours? Because 2 hrs. is the default timeout for the forum login.10:28
stluheaven forbid, I would take 2 hours to write anything and have it lost... no, it was about 5-7 minutes.10:28
Dr_Willismore like.. you write 1 line.. then have to go cook supper for the kids.. then come back 2 hrs later. ;)10:29
stluBut whether its 5 minutes or 10 seconds, I only stay logged in until I press "submit new thread" because the header of the site has that "login with sso" button re-appear.10:29
stluthen I get a blank "vBulletin message"10:29
varunendrastlu, I take more than 2 very often (start a thread, go into research mode or afk) ;P10:29
stlucan anyone try? I see a post 8 mins ago in Absolute beginners, but I don't know about any newer posts.10:31
varunendrastlu, perhaps you should use "Contact Us" link at the bottom then, they'll sort it out for you.10:31
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varunendrastlu, I posted 3-4 just now. Didn't try to start a thread though.10:31
stluI am trying to start a thread, I could test posting, but if it works, I'd kind of derail the thread I picked.10:32
surface-verminmorning10:33
varunendrastlu, what you describe is an unusual problem. You should contact the admins10:33
cfhowlettsurface-vermin, greetings10:33
surface-vermini have question regarding a problem with a video card10:34
stluvarunendra: the auto-save feature DIDNT work, because i got logged-out upon pressing "submit new thread"  Also, there is no "Contact US" at the bottom of ubuntuforums.org.10:34
varunendrastlu, did you see the orange bar at the bottom? This is the link btw - http://ubuntuforums.org/sendmessage.php10:35
stluthe last started post in Absolute beginners is now 55mins ago, the last response is 15 mins.  I think new threads are broken for everyone.10:35
surface-verminthe question is more or less on how to report the issue, with the video card10:36
cfhowlett!details10:36
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."10:36
salamandre43025Hi all, tried 12.04LTS on an HP TouchSmart. I got the boot logo then just a flashing cursor. Anyone have experience with the TouchSmart?10:36
Dr_Willis!nomodeset | salamandre4302510:36
ubottusalamandre43025: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter10:36
surface-verminversion 13.04  xserver-xorg-video-neomagic problem ever thing is green or because xorg pulls all package's it's no running said card10:37
stluvarunendra: the bottom orange bar has 1. combo box for vBulletin colours. 2. "ubuntu forums" main link. 3. "archive". 4. "Top"10:37
surface-verminseems to be running maybe vesa10:37
stluThe contact us button is also missing.10:37
varunendrastlu, on the index page? It is showing here10:39
stluI tried navigating to http://ubuntuforums.org/sendmessage.php10:39
Dr_WillisI dont see a contact us button either. but im not logged in10:39
surface-verminubottu should i add the parm to my boot anr try then report if changes work ?10:39
ubottusurface-vermin: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:39
surface-verminand *10:39
stluDr_Willis: Oh crap, so I can't ask for help because I'm being logged-out.... because new threads are broken...10:39
varunendrastlu, didn't the send mail form open up for you? It does here.10:40
Dr_Willisstlu:  i always use askubuntu.com these days. ;)10:40
surface-vermindidn't realize i was talking to a bot.10:40
stluno I can't send for help because I keep getting logged out.10:40
salamandre43025@ubottu: thanks. Even if you are a bot10:40
Dr_Willissurface-vermin:  :) a Fembot even10:40
surface-verminoh ! my10:41
TechmanHi. Can someone please tell me how to fetch a svn repository10:41
surface-verminwell ill use what the fem bot suggested them report back if nothing changes ?10:41
TechmanI have all of the libsvn packages installed already.10:41
Dr_Willissurface-vermin:  most likely you may need to install some video drivers. depending on your video chipset10:41
varunendraDr_Willis, stlu wow! Just tried a different browser (to simulate logged off scenario), and I don't see the link or the form as well. Something is really broken10:42
surface-verminthe package is installed10:42
Dr_Willisvarunendra:  im using firefox here. with dozens of plugins/extensions. :)10:42
stluCan somebody send a message or start a thread on my behalf?  The email address associated with my account is <ajh8888@gmail.com>10:42
varunendraDr_Willis, I'm logged in on chromium, tried ff as alternative.10:43
stluThat is, if it is proven that I'm the only one affected.10:43
surface-verminbut as i can tell it may not be configures correctly, i have also done a expert command line install and had a issue where my wouldn't start cause it couldn't find the module10:43
stlulast post in Absolute Beginners is now 1 hour old10:43
surface-verminmy equal's x server  *10:44
varunendrastlu, although not a support channel, I think you can join #ubuntuforums and shout there. Maybe a mod/admin can hear..10:44
Dr_Willisstlu:  nothing on their twitter stream  yet. :)10:45
stluI will try #ubuntuforums, brb10:45
Dr_Willisif anyone still twits. ;P10:45
tirengarfioTo track the position of my websites in Google I have purchased an app. Since I have a big list of keywords ("windows spain", "windows france"..), I have problems with those requests to get the position of the website, becasuse Google thinks Im a kind of spammer or bot.. To fix this and don't have more problems, the documentation of the app says:"Hide your IP address behind a proxy server (Preferences -> Proxy Settings) so10:45
tirengarfiothe temporary block will no longer apply." What should I do exactly?? I dont have any idea..10:45
tirengarfioShould I purchase something like this? https://getfoxyproxy.org/proxyservice/10:47
tirengarfioIm lost..10:47
xanuxhello..10:48
surface-verminlooking the Xorg log it fails to load the module10:49
surface-verminin *10:49
surface-verminwell ill try what the fem bot told me and ill report back in a few10:50
Dr_Willistirengarfio:  theres dozens of proxy services you can hire/pay for by the month. Not really a ubuntu support topic.10:50
xanuxhow would i speed ubuntu up?10:51
Dr_Willistirengarfio:  or go cheap and use TOR10:51
Dr_Willisxanux:  depends on what part of it is slow.10:51
xanuxnothing really10:51
xanuxi just wont more speed10:52
Dr_WillisBEST thing i ever did was switch to a SSD hard drive. ;)10:52
Dr_Willisworth all of the $100 ;P10:52
xanuxi dont have lots of money10:52
xanux..10:52
Benkinoobytirengarfio: maybe ask in ##networking10:52
Benkinoobyor #network or however it is called10:52
Benkinoobyxanux: so you want more speed by modifying the software/OS?10:53
Dr_Willisxanux:   want more speed where exactly?  i doubt if theres much you are gong to be able to tweek.  theres a few tricks at the various blog sites like putting  the browser cache in tmpfs and so forth.10:53
xanuxthx10:54
Benkinoobyxanux: apart from that - ssd will give you a noticeable boost as Dr_Willis said10:54
sarkiehi, I am looking for a good upnp server, mediatomb, ps3server, other? What's the de facto for ubuntu?10:54
Benkinoobyxanux: what helped me a lot was to use a window manager instead of a fully blown desktop environment, and to use minimalist gtk-themes10:54
xanuxok10:55
Benkinoobyxanux: but that will of course make your GUI look less fancy10:55
Benkinoobybe warned ;)10:55
xanuxfancy pants :D10:55
Benkinooby:)10:55
Benkinoobyso what i use is fluxbox # kupfer10:56
Benkinooby# -> +10:56
stluxanux: about the fasted you could "speed ubuntu up" would be to burn to a CD and drop it off a tall tower ;)10:56
Benkinoobybut it's a quite specific setup - if you are used to gnome you'll have some trouble with it for a while10:56
gordonjcpsarkie: I use minidlna, which works, kinda10:57
jeetpeiActionParsnip: Thanks i found idea in #bash10:57
Benkinoobystlu: i heard that usb sticks are faster10:57
gordonjcpsarkie: every so often it freaks out and won't add new files10:57
gordonjcpsarkie: you need to periodically nuke its database and let it rebuild10:57
sarkiegordonjcp, perfect, do it do any fancy transcoding?10:57
xanuxis there vb for linux?10:58
Benkinoobyvb?10:58
xanuxits a windows thing10:58
xanux:S10:58
Benkinoobyvirtual basic10:58
xanuxyeah10:58
Benkinoobyvisual basic ?10:58
xanuxyes thats it10:59
xanuxmy collage use it10:59
xanuxi dont have any experience using it10:59
Benkinoobyyou can use wine10:59
xanuxdunno10:59
Dr_Willisid suggest learning a better language10:59
xanuxlol11:00
xanuxi was learning shell for a while11:00
Dr_Willisyou never finish learning the shell. ;)11:00
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xanux:D11:00
xanuxi do love shell11:00
Dr_Willisshell tip # 231 - renaming a lot of files. check out 'qmv' in the renameutils package. ;)11:01
shashank_rustyeven if u finish learning ... u cant explore all shell functionalities11:01
Dr_Willisqmv -f do -e vim *.jpg11:01
Dr_Willishandy for bulk renameing11:01
Benkinoobydo youself some good and learn c, c++, python or java ;)11:01
Benkinoobymy opinion11:02
xanuxits a good onew11:02
Dr_Willislearn regular expressions - The girls go crazy for a guy that can do a mean regular expression.11:02
Benkinoobylol11:02
Dr_Willisthose things are like magical-voodoo11:02
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surface-verminso adding nomodeset to kernel does nothing11:03
Dr_Willisreally impress people  when you whip out a pattern that matches all phone numbers :)  or other things11:03
xanuxbye11:03
Dr_Willissurface-vermin:  whats your video chipset? the installer cd worked?11:03
BenkinoobyDr_Willis: lol, you scared him11:03
BenkinoobyXD11:03
Dr_WillisBenkinooby:  we can replace him with a small regular expression now.11:04
Aussie_matthi all.  anyone here using ubuntu via crouton on the samsung chromebook?11:04
surface-vermini using the system right now, the chip set is xserver-xorg-video-neomagic11:04
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Dr_Willissurface-vermin:  using the system on  what os? windows? some linux?11:04
surface-verminlubuntu 13.04 also tried ubuntu 13.10 beta they all seem to be failling load module11:05
surface-vermin*to load11:05
xanuxubuntu battery drivers for laptops?11:05
Dr_Willissurface-vermin:  so lubuntu worked. but ubuntu dosent.. that points to the drivers/chipset lacking proper 3d support11:05
surface-verminno they seem to be jumping to vesa instead as a fallback11:06
surface-verminin the ubuntu install's i only use command line install's11:06
shashank_rustyhi11:07
surface-verminboth 13.04 and 13.10 seem to be failling to load said module11:07
surface-verminand i just tried putting nomodeset to kernel just now to which did no work11:07
shashank_rustyUbuntu 12.04 is pretty good11:07
surface-verminhello11:08
xanuxon my desktop i have 8 cpus , could dedicate cpus to programs ?11:08
Benkinoobyxanux: you don't want that11:08
surface-verminonly is the program supports hyper threading i think11:08
Benkinoobyxanux: the OS can handle such things better than you ever can11:08
Twicetimeshi all.  if i want to use ubuntu just to run a LAMP stack and SSH, should I be going for the desktop or server release?11:08
shashank_rustyxanux u can enable mpi and do that11:08
surface-verminyeah the package is openmpi11:09
BenkinoobyTwicetimes: better use server11:09
xanuxok thx11:09
Dr_WillisTwicetimes:  if you ever want a gui. go desktop.   if not you can use the server.if you want11:09
Twicetimesok, cheers.  so it's not a trivial matter to add a gui to the server version?11:09
Dr_WillisTwicetimes:  assuming you do know how to admin via the command line11:09
BenkinoobyDr_Willis: server has no gui at all? not even window managr?11:09
Dr_WillisTwicetimes:  if you want a gui. eaier t go with the desktop first11:09
Dr_WillisBenkinooby:  no X at all.. = no gui11:09
Twicetimesok, desktop it is.  thanks11:09
shashank_rustyi want to create a system based installer for my web based application11:09
Benkinoobyoh11:10
surface-verminso really Dr_willis what i am asking is how to report this or if i am doing something wrong during the installation11:10
shashank_rustyhi11:10
xanuxhi11:11
shashank_rustyxanux can you guide me in using this IRC11:11
shashank_rustyi am kinda new here11:11
xanuxum i new too11:11
xanuxlol11:11
xanux:D11:11
shashank_rustyLoLz ok11:11
shashank_rusty:-P11:11
xanuxwhat help you need11:12
xanux?11:12
surface-verminalso am i in the right channel to reprot the error ?11:12
Extreminadorguys i create a bridge connection in my windows on the desktop beetween the router (with auto dhcp) and the laptop11:12
surface-verminreport *11:12
Dr_Willissurface-vermin:  any askubuntu.com hits i find on neomagic are quite old. ;)11:12
Dr_Willis!bug | surface-vermin11:12
ubottusurface-vermin: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.11:12
Extreminadorbut for some reazon i can´t connect to it11:12
shashank_rustyactually i wanted to know how this stuff works11:12
shashank_rustyi am exploring on my own ! nevermind xanux !11:12
shashank_rustythanks !11:13
Dr_Willissurface-vermin:  id check the forums and askubuntu.com - that chipset seems to be a bit of fosssile. :P11:13
shashank_rusty:-)11:13
xanuxwhats best c++ or c11:13
shashank_rustyC is Ultimate11:13
surface-verminit is11:13
xanuxso fuck c++11:13
fudusPython11:13
Dr_Willisxanux:  go learn them both if you really want to code.11:13
Benkinoobynoooooooooooooo!11:13
fudusPython > all11:13
shashank_rustyC++ is more OOPS oriented11:13
Dr_Willisand python, and perl, and rexx, and comal,11:13
surface-verminbut all distro's support the chip and i am sucker for antique's11:13
shashank_rustyPython is Better than C11:13
surface-vermindebian and arch work just fine11:14
fudusYes11:14
surface-vermini was going to try and see if 12.04 works11:14
Dr_Willissurface-vermin:  check the versions of X and the kernel and the drivers they are using. so you can mention it in your bug reports11:14
shashank_rustyDr_Willis in which language can i create a Installer Wizard with ease !?11:14
Twicetimesi haven't used a linux system in about 10 years.  last experience was with redhat 4 or something.  how alien is a standard ubuntu installation going to feel?11:14
Dr_Willisshashank_rusty:  whatever one you know i imagine.11:14
surface-vermindo think trying 12.04 works and the filling a report should be the best plan of action ?11:15
Dr_Willisshashank_rusty:  id say stick to the lowest common demonator. and use bash. ;)11:15
surface-verminif it works ?11:15
Dr_Willissurface-vermin:  if people dont file bugs - stuff dosent get fixed. or looked at.11:15
shashank_rustyya as off now i have a Shell Script11:15
surface-verminright11:15
surface-vermini know it's why i am here11:15
shashank_rustythinking of creating a GUI and with all GTK+ Qt and what not11:15
xanuxis ubuntu secure from the box?11:16
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Benkinoobyxanux: i think c++ for starters is the best idea. c is quite raw and does not support all that object sutff as good as c++ does. and python is a cool language, but it is good to have the basics first with c++, otherwise you will misunderstand many things11:16
Dr_Willisxanux:  pretty much.11:16
Dr_Willishttp://pyweek.org/  python game of the week - :) fun to play with11:17
Benkinoobyxobb: or, java - it is quite noob-friendly, i think/feel11:17
Benkinoobyxanux: or, java - it is quite noob-friendly, i think/feel11:17
jnhghyI'm trying to use romanian characters with libre office writer, I've selected romanian as text language but still no ro characters, what else should I do?11:17
Benkinoobyxobb: sorry, disregard that11:17
surface-verminbut i believe i used 12.04 on said chip set and it worked so... i was going to try a 12.04 install then see if it works if not file a report to see if during the upstream process , which i know nothing about.11:17
fudusjnhghy: have you set up the proper keyboard in keyboard layout?11:17
fudus(sorry if it that is too obvious)11:18
xanuxdid any one have the problem when programming  they just dont know what to program ??11:18
Dr_Willisbah - go learn scratch for programming.. ;)11:18
jnhghyfudus: don't think so...where can I access keyboard layout...11:18
Dr_Willishttp://scratch.mit.edu/scratch_1.4/11:18
fudusdash, type layout11:18
surface-vermini mean to see if during the new package's in newer version are being compiles wrongly11:18
jnhghyI have gnome2 desktop ... no dash type :)11:18
jnhghyfudus: I have gnome2 desktop ... no dash type :)11:18
Twicetimesxanux: when i first started programming i'd always think of cool little projects to focus on, and always bite off more than i could chew11:18
xanuxlol same here11:19
fudussomewhere in softwaer settings in admin then11:19
Twicetimesso, thinking of something really simple and keeping it that was is a good tip for beginners i'd say11:19
fudusor system settings11:19
Twicetimesway*11:19
Dr_WillisI always coded a  D&D dice roller app as a test of any new language. ;)11:19
jnhghyfudus: found it... will test11:19
xanuxi could try a simple game11:19
Benkinoobyxanux: that's too much to start with11:20
xanuxohh11:20
xanuxhello world then lol11:20
Dr_Willisstart with hello world. ;)11:20
xanuxto easy11:20
Dr_Willisruby was the big thing a  yeare or so ago. I dont hear as mucha bout it these days11:20
fudushttp://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-189-a-gentle-introduction-to-programming-using-python-january-iap-2011/index.htm11:20
Twicetimesnever could get into ruby11:20
Benkinoobycuz it's DEAD Dr_Willis  ;)11:21
Twicetimesi use c# for most things at the moment11:21
to_mashekhi people. Is here anyone who knows how to fix the problem with initramfs-tools-bin dependency?11:21
Dr_Willis'its not dead! its pineing for the feiords!'11:21
Dr_Willis;P11:21
fudusmit's 40k tuition cannot be wrong11:21
fudus(or was it 50k)11:21
jnhghyfudus: i've checked keyboard layout...but I can't find romanian anywhere ...11:21
Benkinoobyxanux: i'd recommend you to do something like Dr_Willis ... it's the same thing i do too... use your language to solve small taks or puzzles11:22
Benkinoobyxanux: for example a sudoku solver11:22
fudusis it romanian keyboard layout?11:22
xanuxok11:22
Benkinoobyxanux: i coded something in c++ that will give me my chances for success when attacking in the game "RISK"11:22
jnhghyfudus: nope only english and chinese available in the list11:22
fudus+ button, romanian has list11:22
Twicetimesyeah, little apps that help with some real life task are a good bet.  don't have to have a flashy ui or anything11:23
jnhghyfudus: + button and only chinese and english in the list11:23
Twicetimeskeep it as straightforward as possible11:23
fudusin "sleect an input source to add11:23
Benkinoobyxanux: as soon as you add graphics, it will get big11:23
xanuxim off to cod11:23
fudusit has romanian keyboard layout for me?11:23
Benkinoobyxanux: start with something, where simple command line in and output is sufficent11:23
Benkinoobyxanux: and if you start, ask in the channels for the right way to start11:23
Benkinoobyyou will get lots of oppinions, but usually there is one or two standard books that will give you a good introduction11:24
to_mashekI tried several solutions from different forums but nothing worked for me11:24
surface-verminThanks for the link Dr_Willis11:25
surface-vermini'll report the issue11:25
MonkeyDustto_mashek  solutions to do what?11:25
jnhghyfudusȘ you were correct...found it and ifxed it....thanks11:25
TJ-to_mashek: Have you confirmed that /boot/ has free space? See for example, http://askubuntu.com/questions/246870/broken-dependencies-12-0411:26
to_mashekinitramfs-tools needs initramfs-tools-bin (< 0.99ubuntu13.1.1~)  but having 0.99ubuntu13.2 installed instead11:27
to_mashekI will check this link first11:27
to_mashekwill tell you about the result soon11:27
TJ-to_mashek: also see the covering bug #98468811:28
ubottubug 984688 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "initramfs-tools depends on initramfs-tools-bin (<< 0.99ubuntu11.1~)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98468811:28
Twicetimesis this channel mainly for discussion about ubuntu bugs/development or is it ok to ask newbie questions about general usage too?11:29
BenkinoobyTwicetimes: both11:30
Twicetimescool11:30
BenkinoobyTwicetimes: but you are only allowed to ask a noob question, when you asked a developer question before11:30
Benkinooby;)11:30
Twicetimesheh11:30
Twicetimesk, time to look up some pro-sounding buzzwords11:30
BenkinoobyTwicetimes: i usully look up some bugs and randombly throw words i read there in here11:31
Twicetimesyeah.  i totally pagefaulted my kernel cache.  or something11:32
Dr_Willisjust dont ask why theres no 'n' in the Unmount command.  ;)11:32
Benkinoobyby doing so you win twice: you sound like you ahve some kind of idea, and others get the chance to sound smart too11:32
Benkinoobyif they find the bug you are using as source11:32
Benkinoobyit's a bit like theatre: you open with a random quetion, and then others first try to guess what bug you are using, and once they found out, you and them will replay the whole bug11:33
Benkinooby:P11:33
Twicetimes:)11:33
Benkinoobysometimes people ask real questions, but we usually ingnore them11:34
TJ-I'm still trying to figure out how to stop Unity 13.04 from auto-reopening an LVM volume group and logical volumes after I manually close the volume group. All the automount controls I've found don't stop it happening11:34
Twicetimeswell this is my first time using linux for 10 years.  i'm expecting some stuff to come back quickly and other stuff not so much11:34
BenkinoobyTwicetimes: yeah... the pain will come quickly :P11:34
Twicetimesi remember some funky 'find' syntax.  that's my only lasting memory11:34
xanuxtunnelling netcat  with tor ? is it possible ?11:35
Benkinoobyxanux: only if it is tcp11:35
xanuxwhich it is11:35
Benkinoobyxanux: tor does not do udp11:36
xanuxok11:36
Benkinoobyxanux: well then, why not11:36
Benkinoobyxanux: in doupt ask ##networking11:36
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Benkinooby*doupt11:36
Benkinoobydoubt11:36
Twicetimesone more time11:36
Twicetimesthere it is11:36
Benkinooby*sogh*11:36
Benkinooby*sigh*11:36
Twicetimesrofl11:36
Twicetimes'sogh' was too perfect11:36
Benkinoobythat's it - i'm going for lunch :)11:37
Benkinoobyweeeee - my ipv6 tunnel works :D11:38
Twicetimesi wish i was clever enough to be genuinely happy for you11:39
BenkinoobyTwicetimes: just look up some randum bugs ;)11:39
Benkinooby*random11:39
hplcwhen the grammar gets tough, the tough goes for lunch? :p11:39
Benkinoobyso it is - also it's not the grammar but the spelling. when grammar starts to go the same way my spelling does, i'm lost...11:40
guest-d3aVADI USED 13.10!11:40
Benkinoobyit will look like i randomly type stuff here, and then i'll be kicked... and i'm not able to defend myself, becuase it will look like "fjaöef lidsfa,j öaodj  ialsdjals"11:41
hplchmm no no, theres a "ö" missing in the center i think :D11:42
Benkinoobyhplc: no it's not. many people spell it wrong - look it up in the dictionary i wrote :P11:43
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sarkiehttp://usvsth3m.com/post/62051383205/the-15-things-you-need-to-know-if-youre-dating-an-it11:44
sarkieoops11:44
sarkiesorry11:44
xanuxwhen you think you learnt something in IT , it just gets bigger11:45
xanux:C11:45
Twicetimesyup :/11:46
Extreminadorguys i have a bride connection beetween this computer and the router (that has automátic DHCP on)11:46
Extreminadorhow can i configure the laptop that has ubuntu to configure and have acces to the internet using the bridge ?11:47
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to_mashekany idea how to solve this problem : curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'security' ?11:50
to_mashekI wanted to download some initramfs-tools-bin package manually11:51
ikoniafix your dns ?11:51
ikoniaor enter a valid host11:51
ikoniaor don't enter a repo name as a host11:51
ActionPa1snipExtreminador: set the bridge IP as the default gateway11:52
to_masheksure, spelling mistake :P11:52
ExtreminadorActionPa1snip but that is done automatic already and it's like that11:52
Extreminadormy problem is with the ubuntu ... for some reason o can´t connect11:53
RoryExtreminador: Can you ping the gateway IP?11:53
Twicetimesdoes default gateway basically mean 'any packets that aren't for IPs on this interface, send them there'?11:53
Extreminadorhumm let me check11:53
RoryTwicetimes: It means it's the gateway that's used when there's not a specific route set for the target network11:54
guest-d3aVADServer Has Joined  Brandon Maxwell.11:54
Twicetimesok, thanks11:54
ActionPa1snipExtreminador: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?11:54
xanuxthats google dns ?11:54
Extreminadori can´t ping the gateway no... that one let me check11:55
RoryExtreminador: If you can't ping the gateway you won't be able to ping anything else.11:55
ActionPa1snipxanux: yes 8.8.8.8 is google's primary public dns server11:55
Extreminadorlet me explain better mybe it's me...11:55
ActionPa1snipExtreminador: if you can't ping the gateway then that is why you get no connection11:55
ActionPa1snipExtreminador: you need to check routing so that the traffic goes out of the right interface11:56
dmavroidHello! I am trying to get Playdeb working on my desktop but it seems that i have a problem. I am installing the package as playdeb site recommends but when i am trying to install a game a window pops up in order to select an application to run the game, but the list of applications is empty what should i do?11:56
dmavroidthanks11:56
ikoniacontact the playdev support resources11:56
ikoniait's their package/software11:56
RoryYes dmavroid ask in #playonlinux11:56
dmavroidok thanks11:56
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Extreminadorthis computer (windows 7) is is the desktop one (it connect direclty to the router using automatic DHCP). I did put a while ago another network hardware to connect beetween this and the laptop (ubuntu). After i put it i bridge the two connections11:57
to_mashekok people. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/984688/comments/3 ...this link helped me with the problem with initramfs-tools-bin dependency11:57
ubottuUbuntu bug 984688 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "initramfs-tools depends on initramfs-tools-bin (<< 0.99ubuntu11.1~)" [Undecided,Invalid]11:57
Extreminadorin this computer all works fine but on laptop it's not11:58
ActionPa1snipExtreminador: you'll need to check routing and IP addressing11:58
to_mashekthanks for help11:58
dmavroidRory: is there any other channel? because everyone seems to do something else at the time :S11:58
Rorydmavroid: That's the official channel. They have support forums on their website too11:59
dmavroidRory: thanks again11:59
ExtreminadorActionPa1snip you mean in router ?11:59
ActionPa1snipExtreminador: if one computer can connect and one cannot then trhe router is fine12:00
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kongthapIn dash, how to search only just for app (ignore music, vde, etc.) ??? Ubunut 13.0412:00
ActionPa1snipExtreminador: if only one computer cannot connect then it is the system which is with issue12:00
hplcis there any cookbook with tons of python recipies?12:00
ActionPa1sniphplc: try asking in #python12:00
ActionPa1snipkongthap: maybe click the application lens first..?12:00
kongthapActionPalsnip: there is no ways to config that in the setting or something???12:01
Extreminadorit what i was think off them...12:01
Extreminadori will try to configure manualy and see12:01
ActionPa1snipkongthap: what setting?12:01
shashank_rustyhi12:01
shashank_rustyany one here for just time pass12:02
BluesKaj'Morning folks12:02
ActionPa1sniphi BluesKaj12:02
shashank_rustyLoL12:02
Rory!ot | shashank_rusty12:02
ubottushashank_rusty: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:02
BluesKajhi ActionPa1snip12:02
kongthapActionPalsnip: any setting which makes the dash only list app (ignore others)12:02
kongthapActionPalsnip: may be i just have to use "Super + A" shortcut to search for only apps....12:03
ActionPa1snipkongthap: not sure, not something I use.12:04
Extreminadorbrb going to eat12:04
kongthapActionPalsnip: anyway thanks for your help :)12:05
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ActionPa1snipword12:06
schnitzlhi. how to put a running process nto backgroundwithout stopping it12:09
schnitzlbash12:09
Roryschnitzl: ctrl-z12:10
Roryschnitzl: then type bg12:10
schnitzlbut with ctrl z it gets stopped, doesnt it?12:10
Roryno, when you type "bg" it will run in the background12:11
schnitzlnice...and the momenti do ctrl+z its stopped for a second?12:11
schnitzlrunning some kind of game server. dont want ppl to get kicked just because i wanna check the output...12:12
schnitzl;)12:12
ActionPa1snipschnitzl: it doesn't stop it, no12:14
djlanzabody here12:14
ActionPa1snipdjlanz: lots12:14
schnitzlthank you guys.12:14
djlanzanybody here12:14
djlanzok12:14
Roryschnitzl: You might find this useful http://www.unix.com/unix-advanced-expert-users/78975-make-foreground-running-process-run-background-without-hang-up.html12:15
schnitzl:) thanks mate12:16
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p1l0tI'm having some kind of graphics issue I think. I just installed 12.04 LTS and neither of my browsers will work nor will libre office. I get this in the syslog: "<3>[fglrx:firegl_apl_loadDatabase] *ERROR* APL: apl initialize fail."12:18
p1l0tI would google it but heh..12:18
p1l0toh wait my phone12:18
Roryp1l0t: Did you just install it, or did you install it and then do something else ? ;)12:23
p1l0tRory: I think it's the additional drivers I downloaded I might try uninstalling those12:24
Roryp1l0t: It is those, yes.12:24
p1l0tRory: thanks12:25
efbiaiV'Las: کیوں آپ کو ایک Shuttlepod شروع کیا؟12:25
efbiaiTucker: کیوں تم اس پر برطرف کر دیا؟12:25
efbiaiحملے اور Maywether Mannöver پرواز کرنے کی حوصلہ افزائی کی گئی ہے جس کے تحت Shuttlepod میں Lt.Reed:12:25
efbiaiLt.Reed: میں نے آج ناشتا چھوڑ دینا چاہئے12:25
efbiai"Borderland"12:25
efbiaiDr.Soong جوناتھن آرچر ... وہ یہاں کیا اس کی طرف جاتا ہے؟ تم ان کے لیے جیل کا نام تبدیل کرنا چاہتے ہیں؟12:25
efbiai"موت اسٹیشن"12:25
FloodBot1efbiai: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:25
rosco_yhow do I tell lpr to use my printer (when I try to print using "lpr file.ps", the message reads: "lpr: Error - no default destination available.")12:26
Roryrosco_y: Can you specify the printer manually?12:26
rosco_yRory: I can print from software, but I'm not familiar with the lpr command12:27
Roryrosco_y: use "lpr -p" to list printer names, and then "lpr -d printername" to set "printername" as the default printer12:27
rosco_yRory: ty!12:27
HypnotiXHello, i have a silly question can i recover some files that i overwritten? i have no backup12:31
Extreminadorback12:31
Daemonxis anyone able to get redbox to work under wine sub silverlight ?12:31
MonkeyDust!recover | HypnotiX12:31
ubottuHypnotiX: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel12:31
hello231no ja12:31
Daemonxnetflix  works fine.  issues with redbox12:32
Extreminadorgrrr will check with windows to see if i can´configure this easly12:36
Subo1977_someone from russia here?12:42
MonkeyDust!ru12:42
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.12:42
Subo1977_MonkeyDust: thx12:42
SoWhatlittle help needed in installing Ubuntu on Asus Vivotab12:43
Rory!details | SoWhat12:43
ubottuSoWhat: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:43
MonkeyDustSoWhat  let's hear it!12:43
SoWhatI made USB stick with ubuntu 13.412:43
SoWhatchanged UEFI settings so my vivotab boots from it12:44
SoWhatbut in the end it simply waits a bit longer and goes to WIndows boot manager12:44
SoWhatand tries to buut my damaged windoes 812:45
SoWhat*boot12:45
RorySoWhat: How did you make the USB stick?12:45
SoWhatfrom windows with Universal USB installer12:45
schnitzli am via putty to some ubuntu server. want to pimp my bash. (PS1). i edit /etc/bash.bashrc. exit putty, restart putty, relogin, but bast is plain white and simple again, why?12:47
SoWhatI think that USB stick is okay, because if it doesn't have correct UEFI files on it, system doesn't offer a stick as a boot device12:47
Roryschnitzl: You need to edit ~/.bashrc it's different per user12:49
schnitzlwell. this one was empty12:49
schnitzlso i just added a line.12:49
Roryschnitzl: OK, what I said is  still true12:49
schnitzlstill doesnt work :(12:49
Pici7012:49
Roryschnitzl: Can you please put your ~/.bashrc file on http://paste.ubuntu.com12:50
schnitzlhaha, got it. was my fault (ofc it was...!)12:51
schnitzlapperantly bash.rc is empty12:51
schnitzlbut bashrc isnt12:51
schnitzldamnn12:51
schnitzlwhat is bash.rc for anyways, if its empty. :(12:51
Roryschnitzl: Nothing. you just made the file by trying to open a non-existant file12:52
Roryschnitzl: So it looked empty when you opened it12:52
schnitzlgod damn it. i feel stupid.12:52
schnitzlthanks again Rory :D12:52
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chiefw0tjgood morning all!13:03
Daemonxis anyone able to get redbox to work under wine sub silverlight ?13:03
Daemonxnetflix  works fine.  issues with redbox13:03
e-dardHi, I was configuring sshd to only use keys and I set usepam = no. For some reason this stopped on of the users on my system from being able to login over SSH. Wondered why this might be?13:03
SoWhatI noticed there is a blinking symbol _ in the top left corner of the screen when ubuntu is trying to boot and after 20 sec it goes either to UEFI settings of windows boot manager13:04
SoWhat* or13:04
Daemonx_13:04
RorySoWhat: That usually means the USB hasn't been created sucesfully. Try using a different tool like unetbootin or LiLiUSB, and format the flash drive as fat32 first13:04
e-dardBasically I disabled root loging, disabled password login, and all users can login fine with their keys. However if I add usepam to this one of the users can't lo in13:04
SoWhatokay, thanks Rory! I will try it on different machine13:05
RorySoWhat: That would help to determine whether the USB is faulty or not, yes13:05
SoWhatI think I found the problem. This is a 64bit ubuntu but my VivoTab has a 32bit processor13:07
Rorylol SoWhat yeah that could be a problem :P13:08
SoWhaton different machine I could read an error message13:08
e-dardIn Ubuntu 12.04 are all ports closed by default/13:08
trijntjeHi all, I'm trying to get m wireless dongle to work with ndiswrapper, but whatever command I use, I only get13:08
trijntje$ ndiswrapper -l13:08
trijntjeError: unable to find a version of ndiswrapper!13:08
e-dardI would expect this to be the case but not sure13:08
SoWhatRory: can I get 32 bit ubumtu with UEFI support?13:09
RorySoWhat: I don't think it's only the 64 bit version13:10
Rory!uefi | SoWhat maybe info here13:10
ubottuSoWhat maybe info here: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI13:10
SoWhatthanks13:11
e-dardSo Ubuntu has all ports open by default until you enable ufw?13:11
Rorye-dard: That's correct yes13:11
e-dardRory: is it possible to allow services to open ports without having to set ufw?13:12
Rorye-dard: It's assumed if you have an application listening on a port, you don't want access to that port to be restricted by default13:12
Rorye-dard: What you just described is the default behaviour13:12
e-dardOK. So If I enable ufw, it's not like I lock myself out of machine (remote cloud server accessed by ssh)13:13
e-dardbecause SSH runs as a service13:13
ikoniayou can lock yourself out of anything with a firewall13:13
ikoniait's up to you to have a clue of what you are doing and show some level of checking your own work13:13
MonkeyDust!ufw | e-dard start here13:14
ubottue-dard start here: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo13:14
e-dardikonia: I read somewhere you can setup ubuntu's firewall to automatically let services through13:14
e-dardI'm familiar with ufw13:14
e-dardI wondered if you can let services through automatically?13:14
ikoniae-dard: you can just set the default rule to "allow"13:15
ikoniathat will let things through by default13:15
ikoniabut that is unwise13:15
e-dardikonia: indeed. That will let everything though13:15
e-dardI guess I have to just open up right ports for services13:15
trijntjeis ndiswrapper broken on ubuntu 13.10? Whatever I do, I only get "Error: unable to find a version of ndiswrapper!"13:16
Rorytrijntje: How did you install ndiswrapper?13:16
trijntje13.04 I mean13:16
Rory!sudo | trijntje You may also have to run it using sudo13:16
ubottutrijntje You may also have to run it using sudo: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo13:16
trijntjeRory: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-dkms13:17
trijntjeRory: running it with sudo makes no difference13:17
Rorytrijntje: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.913:18
ihreclear13:19
trijntjeRory: thanks, that  fixed it. Why is utils not a dependency of ndiswrapper-common if you cant do anything without it?13:20
Rorytrijntje: because ndiswrapper-common is just libraries and things. Where told you to install that?13:21
trijntjeRory: the guide i'm following to get my wireless to work. It said I needed -common and -dkms13:23
Rorytrijntje: It's possibly outdated, could you show me it?13:23
Rorytrijntje: I want to check if there's any other incorrect instructions in there13:23
SoWhatyeah.. I can't install Ubuntu on my 32bit VivoTab :(13:24
RorySoWhat: Looks like you have to do some voodoo to make it work with EFI on 32-bit http://askubuntu.com/questions/296543/installing-ubuntu-on-an-asus-vivotab-smart-windows-8-32-bit-processor-tablet13:26
juniourhey which is better adobe phototshop or gimp ??13:27
Rory!best13:27
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.13:27
NikPDoes anyone have an idea, how i can set the sound of ALSA to mono? Seems to be difficult, not much answers on Google....13:28
deanrock0is it possible to install package without installing extra packages?13:28
Rory!details | deanrock013:29
ubottudeanrock0: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."13:29
RoryNikP: Found this, first result: http://superuser.com/questions/155522/force-downmix-to-mono-on-linux13:29
deanrock0i'm trying to install drush package, but don't want apache2; is it possible to install just the package i want?13:29
Rory!info drush13:29
ubottudrush (source: drush): command line shell and Unix scripting interface for Drupal. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.8-1 (raring), package size 335 kB, installed size 1368 kB13:29
deanrock0that doesn't really answer my question13:30
RoryI know, I just needed to see it13:31
Rorydeanrock0: There are a few ways, all of them various levels of hackery: http://serverfault.com/questions/250224/how-do-i-get-apt-get-to-ignore-some-dependencies13:31
NikPRory: OK, I'll try it out! Thanks in advance!13:31
M0NK_ingend، الرقص، في حالة سكر مع السعادة: كيف احتفلت قيادة حزب الاتحاد الديمقراطي المسيحي انتصارهم على خشبة المسرح. وأظهرت أنجيلا ميركل أيضا لمعاييرها سعداء جدا وكان حتى هاينر جايسلر واحد من الحزب. النتيجة تجاوزت بوضوح التوقعات الاكثر وحشية للحزب. من انتصار13:31
M0NK_خطاب المستشار، والتي تتم مقارنة مع 50.2 في المئة اديناور في عام 1957. لكن ميركل لا يكفي لفي المئة غالبية مطلقة من المقاعد 41.5 سنة. حتى المرأة التي تثق بها الألمان، تعتمد على شريك الائتلاف في الحكم، من ناحية من المعسكر المنافس. لأن الحقيقة من ليلة الانتخابات يعني13:31
FloodBot1M0NK_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:31
deanrock0Rory: ok, thanks for the help13:32
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trijntjeRory: http://askubuntu.com/questions/100090/how-do-i-install-the-driver-for-my-linksys-ae1200-wireless-n-usb-adapter13:33
jmpiloqhas anyone get convirt working with raring?13:34
oaulakhhow to repair bootsplash in ubuntu13:34
Rorytrijntje: "First, install ndiswrapper and be sure to install ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper-dkms as well." - looks like you just misread the instructions13:34
Rory!details | oaulakh13:34
ubottuoaulakh: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."13:34
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jmpiloqI seem to stumble over this one: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-sponsors/2012-April/022074.html13:35
jmpiloqis there a solution?13:35
oaulakhmeans when i boot my bootscreen is not working and sometimes my system freezes at startup with eth0 not found error13:36
trijntjeRory: there is not package ndiswrapper as far as I can tell13:36
oaulakham using ubuntu 13.0413:36
oaulakhwhat should i do now?13:38
Rorytrijntje: It's OK you have it installed now13:38
oaulakhi think something ba with my bootsplash13:38
oaulakhi think something bad with my bootsplash13:38
mydog2morn...13:39
oaulakhRory: what should i do to reapair my boot screen?13:40
juniourhey which is better adobe phototshop or gimp ??13:41
juniour???13:41
juniour??13:41
oaulakhafkos adobe... :)13:42
Pici!best | juniour13:42
ubottujuniour: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.13:42
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oaulakhmeans when i boot my bootscreen is not working and sometimes my system freezes at startup with eth0 not found error13:42
oaulakhhow to repair bootsplash in ubuntu13:43
juniourk13:43
NikPRory: No, I've restarted my PC, but it is still stereo. In the german ubuntu forum I've read, that in some causes the .asoundrc doesn't recognizes from the pc. (Sorry for my bad english...)13:43
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NikPRory: I've tried it out in Fedora and OpenSUSE, there it works perfectly, but I mostly use Ubuntu, why not there?13:44
ActionPa1snipNikP: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload13:45
bountyhunterUbuntu or Linux Mint will work better on old hardware laptops?13:46
NikPActionPa1snip: Here it is: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=2d196d885a209e351b9a81e79cd22923ecbd790913:46
luhexit13:49
WarDekarhow do i change the name of the compouter name shown on the CLI? like "username@compname: ~/# "13:49
WarDekari want to change what compname is displayed13:49
ihreWarDekar: change /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts13:50
WarDekarjust add "127.0.0.1    new_hostname" to each?13:50
ihreno, change the line in /etc/hostname to the new name13:51
WarDekarthat file is blank currently13:51
andrenevesadd the hostname you want in the first line13:53
ActionPa1snipNikP: if you run:  alsamixer    are all levels maxed and unmuted?13:54
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NikPActionPa1snip: Yep.13:54
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oaulakhhow to restore bootsplash in ubuntu 13.04?13:59
oaulakhhow to restore bootsplash in ubuntu 13.04?13:59
xanux_hello13:59
oaulakhhow to restore bootsplash in ubuntu 13.04?14:00
zippo^hello , can i disable a touchpad via terminal? I want always disable touchpad , restart too14:00
zippo^?14:00
oaulakhhow to restore bootsplash in ubuntu 13.04?14:00
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Johnny_Linuxoaulakh  http://askubuntu.com/questions/12394/getting-back-ubuntus-default-boot-splash14:02
Johnny_Linuxjust a thought14:02
NikPDoes anybody other have an answer?14:05
ActionPa1snipcauplease dont spam14:06
ActionPa1snipNikP: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse*    wait 10 seconds and reboot14:06
mydog2got a ssh priv/pub key issue...14:07
RoryCould you elaborate, mydog2 ?14:07
mydog2i've pasted to http://fpaste.org/41553/ <<14:07
mydog2Rory,  - i know.. it's a fedora paste.. but old habits!!14:07
mydog2but here's the issue...14:08
mydog2pub/priv key testing, using the config file14:08
Rorymydog2: is your private key in /home/foo/id_rsa_foo ? by default it would be in /home/foo/.ssh/id_rsa14:08
Rorymydog2: also it looks like it's trying to connect to port 50122, check your config file to make sure that's what you actually want14:09
NikPActionPa1snip: OK, I'll be there in a few minutes...14:09
Rorymydog2: ssh usually runs on port 22, and does by default14:09
mydog2however, when i ssh into a ssh domain that's not in the config file, it appears that ssh/config file is trying to redirect what's on the commandline to the config file hostname/domain14:09
Priceymydog2: Begin with a 'Host' section, indent anything belonging to that by a couple of spaces14:09
Priceymydog2: e.g.  http://fpaste.org/41555/99454111/14:10
Rorymydog2: Pricey is correct, your ssh config file is set to apply to ALL ssh connections14:10
PriceyThe indenting isn't required... but'll make life easier reading.14:10
mydog2Pricey,  - ok.. how to change the config file to just apply to the 5.1814:11
Priceymydog2: "'Host' Restricts the following declarations (up to the next Host keyword) to be only for those hosts that match one of the patterns given after the keyword."14:11
Priceymydog2: See my example paste :)14:11
mydog2Pricey,  -ohh.. so it was host.. not hostname!!!!14:11
mydog2doah! let em try,,,14:11
Rorymydog2: hostname is valid14:11
mydog2jesus..!!14:11
Priceymydog2: Yep. They mean different things. "man 5 ssh_config"14:12
mydog2Pricey,  - i had looked at that for a bit.. just went right over it!! thanks man... the little things...14:13
mydog2'ppreciate it!14:13
Rorymydog2: This is the SSH config I use at work, it's a good template http://rory.sh/files/ssh_config14:13
mydog2thanks guys!!!14:13
Priceymydog2: Not a problem!14:13
NikPActionPa1snip: No, doesn't brings anything. Other ideas?14:14
ss_hazeyello, error:error parsing environment "amazon": no public ssh keys found on juju bootstrap14:14
ss_hazeand I tought I will get wordpress by this :>14:14
ActionPa1snipNikP: my sound troubleshooting is basic, sorry14:17
ss_hazealso 64 thousands of cash for trying this stuff14:18
NikPActionPa1snip: OK, but thank you for your help! I'll try it with an other soundcard as the onboard! Finally, a reason to buy a Soundblaster Z!14:22
RoryNikP: If you're looking for sound card recommendations please PM me, I can't let someone buy a soundblaster in good conscience14:24
ActionPa1snipNikP: i'd get something more generic14:25
ActionPa1snipNikP: creative stuff is either super easy or a pain14:26
artifex1990hello all14:28
artifex1990kill me somebody)14:28
NikPActionPa1snip: Do you know good Soundcards they're not too expensive ~120$14:29
NewWeekhello all14:30
Dr_feelgudhi all14:30
artifex1990hi14:30
Dr_feelgudhow do i change titlebar on terminal?14:32
RoryDr_feelgud: What terminal?14:33
Dr_feelgudterminator14:33
RoryDr_feelgud: http://software.jessies.org/terminator/faq.html#heading_toc_j_414:34
Dr_feelgudRory, thanks14:35
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sloweI'm seeing an odd error attempting to install 12.04 over the network (using Apache HTTPd). Most of the way through the install, it fails with package dependency errors. Any suggestions?14:40
sh_Hi everybody.14:42
sh_I have problem with internal microphone. It's not working14:42
sh_Please help me !14:43
Dr_feelgudsh_: may we know what version of ubuntu ar u using?14:43
sh_my ubuntu is 13.0414:44
Rorysh_: can you please run the command: alsamixer14:44
Rorysh_: Use the left and right arrow keys to move between sliders, and ensure they are all set as maximum14:44
Rorysh_: (use the up and down arrow keys to modify the value of the currently selected slider)14:45
sloweAnyone have any suggestions as to what might cause package dependency errors when installing 12.04 over the network (via HTTP)?14:45
sh_Yes, I run command: alsamixer14:45
sh_It work14:45
Rory!pm | sh_14:49
ubottush_: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.14:49
sh_ubottu_: thanks14:50
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)14:50
dNSTARHello guys. I have a question.. When I start my computer it dosen't allways show where I have to write my encryption-password. But if I press esc I can write it but the interface dosen't look like the same.14:51
Rory!nomodeset | dNSTAR14:51
ubottudNSTAR: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter14:51
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sh_Rory: !pm mean?14:51
Rorysh_: !pm makes ubottu say that to you14:51
SkeptixHi, I don't understand how the security/limits.conf file works. Here is what I put in it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6145821/. I want all the process of www-data to have a nice level of 19. What am I doing wrong?14:51
sh_!nomodeset | dNSTAR14:52
ubottudNSTAR: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter14:52
sh_!pm14:52
ubottuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.14:52
moparisthebestI am seeing these in dmesg: 'thinkpad_acpi: docked into hotplug port replicator' and 'thinkpad_acpi: undocked from hotplug port replicator', and I need to run a script when those happen, how can I do that?14:52
ActionPa1snipmoparisthebest: sounds like a udev thing14:53
moparisthebestudev or acpi?14:53
RorySkeptix: sudo -i -u www-data14:54
RorySkeptix: then run: ulimit -a14:54
sh_Rory: Ok, I got it. How do I check my driver is work?14:54
sh_Rory: My speaker work well, but Internal micro is bad :(14:54
Rorysh_: Did you turn up all the sliders?14:54
SkeptixRory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6145833/14:54
sh_Rory: Yes, I've  turn up all sliders14:55
RorySkeptix: You could just reboot14:55
roninisn't this right if I want to run cron every 3rd hour: 0 6,9,12,15,18,21 * * *14:55
SkeptixRory: I have just rebooted14:55
RorySkeptix: What exact file did you edit?14:55
Picironin: 0 */3 * * * would be much cleaner14:55
SkeptixRory: /etc/security/limits.conf on ubuntu 12.04.314:56
Picironin: or 0 6-21/3 * * *14:57
sh_Rory: My laptop is Asus K45VD. Codec: Realtek ALC269VB, Codec: Intel PantherPoint HDMI.14:57
mydog2one other issue?? how to force/get a knew dhcp ip address14:57
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hugok!raid | hugok14:58
ubottuhugok, please see my private message14:58
hugok!raid14:58
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto14:58
dNSTARHello guys. In startup I get the fail: ubuntu can't open /dev/mapper/ubuntu vg-root no such file, any help please? :/14:58
Rorymydog2: sudo dhclient -r && sudo dhclient14:58
Rorymydog2: Bear in mind some DHCP servers (Such as the one in my router) will always assign the same device the same IP14:59
slowe!pxe14:59
yeatsdNSTAR: did you change anything on your system before getting that error?15:00
dNSTARNope..15:00
dNSTARI just got Ubuntu yesterday so...15:01
dNSTARIt has been here since this morning15:01
yeatsdNSTAR: can you boot up with a live CD/USB?15:01
dNSTARyeats: yea15:01
mydog2Rory,  - yeah.. that's what i had tried. as well as blowing away the lease files..15:02
mydog2got the same ip address..15:02
yeatsdNSTAR: please do so and post back when you're up and ready15:02
Rorymydog2: So it's likely your DHCP server is remembering, and reassigning you the same IP every time15:03
dNSTARAlright, thanks!15:03
mydog2rory - it is.. which is why i was looking for a method to test forcing the change to a new ip.. i was thinking of changing the mac15:04
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slowe!installer15:06
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root32I installed ubuntu 12.4 , but when it start get very long time for boot...15:08
Rorymydog2: Look in your DHCP server's settings, there's nothing you can do from the client15:11
yeats!bootchart | root3215:12
ubotturoot32: bootchart charts your machine at boot time, to install >> sudo apt-get install bootchart << the graphic is in /var/log/bootchart after the next reboot15:12
yeatsroot32: ^^ that should tell you where any hangs are in the boot process15:12
slowe!netboot15:12
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate15:12
root32ubottu: Say : sudo: Unable to resolve host (none) , why ?15:14
ubotturoot32: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:14
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yeatsroot32: what is the output of 'cat /etc/hostname'?15:16
slowe!automate15:16
ubottuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html - See also !cloning15:16
yeats!msgthebot | slowe15:17
ubottuslowe: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".15:17
sloweThanks yeats15:17
root32yeats: no i typed : sudo apt-get --reinstall install dpkg15:20
tirengarfioI have two monitors, my primary monitor (where the taskbar is) has change to the other one, how can I switch?15:20
tirengarfiook, I switch15:21
tirengarfioed15:21
zetherooI have been trying for many moons now to do some pretty basic video editing in Ubuntu and am getting absolutely nowhere!! I am using RecordMyDesktop to record a simple slideshow of images - this then ends up as an ogv file - I then import that file into OpenShot and cut a piece out - then it all goes to hell! The video frames are all out of sync etc ...15:21
zetherooI have tried converting to AVI using WinFF which just ruins the quality ...15:21
zetherooI uploaded the file to YouTube and then downloaded it as an mp4 - the video was still crisp but same issue when editing in OpenShot15:22
zetherooDo I have to go get a Mac in order to do this simple task?!15:23
yeatsroot32: I wasn't asking what you typed, I was trying to see if your hostname is properly set in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts15:23
yeatsroot32: and why would you be installing/reinstalling dpkg?15:24
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BluesKajzet which player are you using for playback ?..recommend vlc , it plays most codecs and dvds without any conversion needed15:24
BluesKajzetheroo,^15:25
ActionPa1snipzetheroo: tried a different desktop recording app? Or set record my desktop to record straight to avi etc?15:25
yeatstirengarfio: try going to Displays and see the Launcher Placement setting15:25
zetherooBluesKaj: playback not the issue ... VLC, Xine, Movie Player ... no diff15:25
zetherooActionPa1snip: Avidemux can't even begin to handle mp4 or ogv ...15:26
mn3na3aquestion: guys does installing a lot of apps in ubuntu slows the system down?15:26
zetherooActionPa1snip: have not found any way to change the default video format of RMD15:27
yeatsmn3na3a: depends on the apps and when/whether they are running simultaneously15:27
root32yeats: i installed ubuntu 12.4 and had very long time to boot.. : (15:27
BluesKajzet DRM ?15:27
BluesKajzetheroo,^15:27
yeatsroot32: did you install bootchart yet as ubottu suggested to you above?15:27
zetherooBluesKaj: !?15:28
root32yeats: how to install it ?15:28
mn3na3ano i mean installing only for example if i have 200 apps installed does this affect the system?15:28
yeats!bootchart | root3215:28
ubotturoot32: bootchart charts your machine at boot time, to install >> sudo apt-get install bootchart << the graphic is in /var/log/bootchart after the next reboot15:28
BluesKajDRM , digital rights management15:28
zetherooBluesKaj: I know what DRM means ... but why are you bringing it up!?15:28
BluesKajok zetheroo nm , I'm obviously out of the loop info-wise on this one15:29
root32ubottu: ubottu: How can i type this , because my pc is not boot...  sudo apt-get install bootchart ?15:29
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BluesKajsorry for inrerrupting zetheroo cary on15:30
zetherooBluesKaj: no worries ... DRM no issue here ... I am recording everything myself15:30
yeats!pm | mn3na3a15:30
ubottumn3na3a: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.15:30
yeatsmn3na3a: my original answer still applies15:31
mn3na3ayeats: sry abt that :)15:31
djangoi have the .bin files, how to convert it to disk image (.iso ) files ?15:32
ikoniadjango: you don't15:33
ikoniadjango: unless it's an iso that's been renamed15:33
djangono no, i have to compile an os from source code15:33
djangono no, i have to compile an os from source code15:33
ikoniadjango: ok, go on then15:33
ikoniathat's nothing to do with ubuntu/this channel15:34
djangoplz guide how to run it in virtual box ?15:34
ikoniarun what ?15:34
Giant81I have a question.  I use linux quite a bit at home, and I seutp my brother with Ubuntu 12.04 for his desktop.  If he had problems, any easy way to get in and remote manage it?15:34
djangothe os executable15:34
ikoniadjango: it's a binary file, you execute it15:34
yeatsGiant81: ssh?15:34
djangoi am asking how to package it into iso ?15:34
Giant81without having him have to setup a NAT15:35
djangoso that we can supply it to a vm15:35
ikoniadjango: you don't15:35
djangoy ?15:35
ikoniadjango: you'd need to extract it onto an iso file system15:35
ikoniadjango: it's a binary file - not an iso file15:35
Giant81I love ssh, but not sure how I get into his box with ssh from remote without a nat setup15:35
Giant81any way to do a reverse ssh session he initiates on his end and I can get into his box?15:36
ikoniaGiant81: no15:36
* Giant81 goes to check gotoassist15:36
Giant81I know we use gotoassist at work, do they have a linux client?15:36
OerHeksdjango, a .bin is a binairy file, an executable file. if this is part of your OS, we don't know.15:36
ikoniaGiant81: ask them15:36
djangoit is the os15:36
yeatsGiant81: routers usually allow port forwarding - I forward a nonstandard port on my public IP to ssh on one of my hosts in the LAN15:36
djangonot a part of it15:36
ikoniadjango: ok, so then it's up to you how you do it15:37
ikoniadjango: sadly, it's nothing to do with this channel/ubuntu15:37
OerHeksdjango so if it is an OS, it is not ubuntu. you might want to ask their support channel or forum?15:37
Giant81yeats, oh I know, I'm a network engineer, and I may just do that for him next time I'm there, I just don't see him being able to loginto his router and set it up himself15:37
yeatsGiant81: understood15:37
djangoOk, here is the situation >> I have written a basic kernel in C, now i want its iso disk image15:37
ikoniadjango: then do it15:38
ikoniadjango: make an iso file system - but it on, done15:38
djangohow to ?15:38
djangogive any utils15:38
ikoniadjango: this is nothing to do with ubuntu15:38
ikoniadjango: I think you need to research it15:38
Rory!ot | django15:38
ubottudjango: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:38
djangoi am on ubuntu 12.0415:38
* Giant81 wishes his bother had an ASA, I'd just setup an ssl vpn into his network, then I can connect to that then ssh into his box without allowing the ssh port to sit open on the internet :) but we work with what we have15:38
ikoniadjango: yes, and telling you how to build your own kernel boot iso is nothing to do with ubuntu15:39
zetherooThankfully I have my ol' Win XP VM to do some video editing on :P15:44
varunendrazetheroo, what application do you use on it for the editing?15:45
zetheroovarunendra: I had used AVS on it before ...15:46
zetheroojust updating it now ...15:46
barihodoes rsync work well over curlftpfs? are there ftp clients, that have rsync-like behavior?15:46
varunendrazetheroo, AVS? Abbrevation to actually some other name?15:47
varunendrazetheroo, the only AVS I remember is Avid Video Studio, which is overkill for a simple cut/slice15:48
schnitzlis it possible to run a bash script IN a directory from another directory.15:50
schnitzlthe script wants to run something.exe (without path to something.exe). i am in ~ and type: /patch/to/sript/RUN.sh15:51
varunendraschnitzl, is "cd <target dir> && <script>" not possible?15:51
schnitzlpossible. but me no want that ;)15:52
schnitzlahh wait15:52
schnitzlmabye. let me try15:52
schnitzlits in rc.local if this helps15:52
schnitzlwanna run a script at startup...15:52
varunendra.exe ?15:53
schnitzlyea. no win. downt worry.15:53
schnitzljust the developers style. no idea why15:53
varunendraso what is in rc.local? "/patch/to/sript/RUN.sh" ?15:54
* LinuxGold looks around.15:54
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schnitzlin rc.local is /usr/share/openra/start.sh15:55
m-fhi15:55
m-fhow to add the facebook chat to pidgin15:55
schnitzlthe script executes a server15:55
p5yxhey i've want my ls be aliased with ls --color=auto. so i've added the line to my .bashrc and logged in again. then i got the error: -bash: alias: --color: Not found. Any ideas?15:56
m-fxubuntu 12.0415:56
p5yxif i type in ls --color manually everything is fine....15:56
schnitzlbut the file to execute is without path15:56
varunendraschnitzl, is this server executable named <something>.exe ?15:57
schnitzlyep15:57
UserNameMy GParted fails to recognize the swap partition after I boot to Windows 8 and reboot to Ubuntu. Any ideas why this happens?15:57
zetheroovarunendra: AVS Video Editor15:57
m-fdid someone saw my question?15:57
schnitzlm-f http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Pidgin15:58
m-fty15:58
varunendraschnitzl, so what is the problem in adding "cd <location of the .exe>" before the line in rc.local?15:58
UserNameIt is strange because the swap partition remains functional on reboot.15:59
varunendraUserName, and when does it recognizes it?15:59
varunendrarecognize*15:59
schnitzlso you mean...: "cd /usr/share/openra/ && start.sh"15:59
UserNamevarunendra:  After I delete the swap partition, and reboot and then format it to swap partition again.15:59
schnitzlthis should execute start.sh in /usr/share/openra/15:59
schnitzlright?15:59
varunendraschnitzl, if the .exe is in that directory, then yes16:00
varunendrayes16:00
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schnitzlok. but if i type that in the console from, lets say ~. it wont work.16:01
UserNameSo basically, whenever I boot to Windows, the disk manager loses the ability to recognize the swap partition.16:01
schnitzlcant find command "start.sh"16:01
varunendraUserName, you have changed the UUID of swap. You need to change it in the fstab file accordingly.16:01
m-fit was fukin frencgh site16:02
p5yxhey i've want my ls be aliased with ls --color=auto. so i've added the line to my .bashrc and logged in again. then i got the error: -bash: alias: --color: Not found. Any ideas?16:02
p5yxif i type in ls --color manually everything is fine....16:02
varunendraschnitzl, try ""cd /usr/share/openra/ && ./start.sh""16:02
UserNameOkay, let me check varunendra .16:02
schnitzlm-f haha sorry mate. it is german. i cant even see the differance anymore16:02
schnitzlyay varunendra you are the man...thank you. :D16:02
m-f:D16:03
m-fit didnt help me at all16:03
m-f:D16:03
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schnitzlm-f but search for yourself, there should be somekind of the same page in your language.16:03
m-fwheres the ebglish lang button :D16:03
drew__where can i find help on juju16:03
schnitzli bet english speaking ubunt community has its own wiki ;)16:03
yeats!pidgin | m-f16:04
ubottum-f: The Instant Messenger client Pidgin (formerly Gaim) (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin) supports MSN, XMPP (Jabber, GTalk and variants), AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ, YIM, IRC and others. See also !Kopete16:04
oaulakhhow to copy folder to /usr/share/themes folder?16:04
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UserNamevarunendra:  The UUID shouldn't change when I boot to Windows, right?16:05
yeatsp5yx: I would assume there's a typo in what you added to .bashrc16:05
UserNamevarunendra:  I think the /etc/fstab file entry gets automatically updated.16:05
varunendraUserName, yes, although anything is possible with win8 ;P16:05
zykotick9UserName: /etc/fstab is NOT updated...16:05
varunendraUserName, as far as I know, it does not16:06
oaulakhhow to copy folder to /usr/share/themes folder?16:06
oaulakhhow to copy folder to /usr/share/themes folder?16:06
UserNamezykotick9:  Strange, because it runs mkswap during the operation. But I will check it again.16:06
threex5Is there a GUI that will actually search in hidden folders? It works with find -name in CLI but I get nothing with Nautilus or with Gnome Search tool. I'm running Ubuntu classic 12.04.16:07
tgagreetings. does anyone happen to know whether it's possible to do nat traversal for ssh so that after the handshake the machines communicate directly?16:07
varunendraoaulakh, what folder? What is your objective. Providing details may get you some help16:07
UserNamevarunendra:  Yes, I have been thinking, maybe it's because of the Secure Boot feature? Then again, changing of UUID doesn't quite seem legit.16:07
zykotick9UserName: a suggestion = when you mkswap you can assign a LABEL, then use a LABEL in fstab rather then UUID...16:07
varunendraUserName, like I said - 'anything' is possible with win8... :D16:08
UserNamezykotick9:  Hmm, thanks, sounds good.16:08
oaulakhi want to change my theme, so i download one from deviant art "nord" theme16:08
hugokhi guie16:08
UserNameThanks folks.16:08
oaulakhnow i want to place that folder in themes folder under /usr/share/themes16:08
varunendraUserName, try rebooting instead of shutting down win8. That way it won't save drive snapshot16:08
UserNameI will be back to bug youse if it doesn't work out though :D16:08
oaulakhvarunendra : i want to change my theme, so i download one from deviant art "nord" theme16:09
UserNamevarunendra:  I have quick shutdown feature turned off.16:09
oaulakhvarunendra : now i want to place that folder in themes folder under /usr/share/themes16:09
Forsevinoaulakh, ok...16:09
Forsevinoaulakh, is there a problem doing so?16:09
varunendraoaulakh, I have never tried that myself. Are you sure just copying the folder will add the theme?16:10
oaulakhyeah its shows me "cp: cannot stat ‘Nord’: No such file or directory"16:10
p5yxyeats: i didn't add anything, just copied the bashrc from /etc/skel/.bashrc16:10
oaulakhyeah its shows me "cp: cannot stat ‘Nord’: No such file or directory"16:11
Forsevinoaulakh, there's obviously something you're doing wrong here.16:11
varunendraoaulakh, you can open the file manager with root access, then simply copy --> browse to /usr/share/themes --> paste it.16:12
oaulakhthen please tell me what i'm doing wrong here?16:12
yeatsp5yx: can you pastebin your ~/.bashrc?16:12
Forsevinoaulakh, It's hard saying, make sure the file actually existing, $ ls?16:12
oaulakhhow to open file manager with root aceess16:12
varunendraoaulakh, are you using Nautilus (default Ubuntu file manager)?16:12
Forsevinsudo <your filemanager>16:12
oaulakhyes file is there16:12
varunendraForsevin, gksu16:13
zykotick9Forsevin: NO!  don't use sudo with GUI apps!  it's important.  see "/msg ubottu gksudo" for details why.16:13
oaulakhyes file is there man16:13
p5yxyeats: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6146138/16:13
Forsevinzykotick9 Guess you always learn something new, never given me any problems however.16:13
varunendraoaulakh, is it default Ubuntu? Or something else (xubuntu, lubuntu...)16:14
varunendraForsevin, it's just a bad practice16:14
zykotick9p5yx: you have line 78, for the ls color alias (which is there by default)16:14
oaulakhyeah i'm using default ubuntu file manager 13.0416:14
Forsevinoaulakh, how do you attempt copying the file?16:15
varunendraoaulakh, then press Alt+F2 --> type "gksu nautilus" --> press Enter16:15
oaulakhok16:16
varunendraoaulakh, be VERY CAREFUL when you are running the file manager as root. Don't do anything other than what you have opened it for16:16
yeatsp5yx: hmm - that works fine for me16:16
p5yxzykotick9: ehm i know but it doesn't work...16:16
p5yxyeats: i'll reboot16:17
zykotick9p5yx: if you type "alias" do you see it?  what terminal are you using?16:17
yeatsp5yx: '. ~/.bashrc' should do it16:17
NeoKarnavarunendra, there's a big article explaining why you shouldn't use gksu, but it is easier for newbies16:17
p5yxzykotick9: just tty right now...16:17
zykotick9yeats: does . work the same as source?16:17
oaulakhnothing is happing16:18
yeatszykotick9: yep16:18
oaulakhnothing is happning16:18
p5yxyeats: i did. i'm root but that shouldn't matter right?16:18
varunendraoaulakh, didn't the file manager open?16:18
zykotick9p5yx: console, hummm.  colour certainly works for me?  well, good luck.16:18
oaulakhno16:18
p5yxzykotick9: thx16:18
oaulakhits not opening16:18
varunendraNeoKarna, gksu or sudo?16:18
zykotick9p5yx: root is different, no colour by default.  DON'T USE ROOT LOGIN.16:18
NeoKarnavarunendra,  gksu ;)16:19
varunendraoaulakh, please show us exactly what you typed in the "Alt+F2" box16:19
varunendraNeoKarna, link please?16:19
oaulakhgksu nautilus16:19
p5yxzykotick9: why not?16:19
p5yxzykotick9: you're not talking about security reasons here are you?16:20
zykotick9p5yx: do you want colour?  if so, then log in as a user.16:20
zykotick9p5yx: ubuntu was designed to NOT use root account.  see "/msg ubottu notroot" for details.16:20
oaulakhvarunendra, gksu nautilus16:20
NeoKarnavarunendra,  sorry got that wrong, it was sudo ;)16:20
varunendraoaulakh, I read somewhere that gksu is not installed by default in 13.04, maybe it's true. Try "gksudo nautilus" instead16:20
p5yxzykotick9: i'm using it in qemu for developing purposes.16:21
varunendraNewWeek, the psychocat tutorials ? :P16:21
p5yxzykotick9: therefore i need root access16:21
NeoKarnaoaulakh,  varunendra  gksudo always works with me16:21
zykotick9varunendra: fyi, gksudo is actually just an alias of gksu ;)  can't have one without the other.16:21
p5yxzykotick9: why shouldn't colors work for root?16:21
oaulakhits open thanks16:21
p5yxzykotick9: if i type in ls --color it works without any problem.16:21
zykotick9p5yx: if you're using root, i'm not interested in helping.  best of luck to you.16:21
UserNamezykotick9:  Do I replace the volume UUID with the label in /etc/fstab file?16:21
varunendrazykotick9, was a shot in the dark, thanks for clearing up ;)16:22
zykotick9UserName: ya, LABEL=foo16:22
p5yxzykotick9: did you even read my posts?16:22
oaulakhbut its not pasing nord folder in themes16:22
p5yxzykotick9: i need root for developing purposes...16:22
oaulakhbut its not pasting nord folder in themes16:22
UserNamezykotick9:  Oh, you mean, "LABEL" instead of "UUID", right?16:22
zykotick9UserName: yes, you won't need UUID after the LABEL is working.16:23
NeoKarnaoaulakh,  you should be able to paste without any problem16:23
igw3#offsec16:23
oaulakhits not16:23
igw3ping16:23
p5yxzykotick9: it's just a qemu guest. what should be dangerous about it?16:23
NeoKarnaoaulakh,  where is your nord folder ?16:23
varunendraoaulakh, just right-click in the themes folder (any blank area inside the folder). Do you see "Create New Folder" option enabled?16:23
oaulakhin download folder16:24
varunendraoaulakh, could you browse to it?16:24
NeoKarnaoaulakh,  please follow these steps:16:25
oaulakhok16:25
oaulakhtell me16:25
varunendraoaulakh, if you copied it in the normal mode, it is not in 'Your' clipboard at present. You have to copy it from 'This' file manager16:25
NeoKarnaoaulakh,  1. open a terminal16:25
oaulakhok16:25
oaulakhthen16:25
varunendra:P16:25
NeoKarnaoaulakh,  2.type "gksudo nautilus"16:25
p5yxhm ok i got it just in case someone is interessted. moving .bashrc to /etc/bash.bashrc fixed the problem for the root user16:25
NeoKarnaoaulakh, hit enter and type your password16:26
oaulakhcommand not found16:26
NeoKarnaoaulakh,  then "sudo apt-get install gksudo"16:27
oaulakhok16:27
oaulakhits installed then16:27
zykotick9NeoKarna: gksudo is in the gksu package!  oaulakh16:28
varunendralooks like it is "gksu" NeoKarna16:28
varunendra^^ ;P16:28
oaulakhits installed then16:28
oaulakhits open root file manager16:28
fahadashIs there anything we can do about this burgundy/maroon background in ubuntu? Its so uncool16:28
oaulakhyes its man16:29
varunendraoaulakh, what opened root file manager? Did you already install it and run "gksu nautilus"?16:29
oaulakhyes its done man16:29
MonkeyDustfahadash  you can change the !theme, or just the background colour16:29
NeoKarnaoaulakh,  then go to filesystem-> home->"folder with your username" -> Downloads-> Copy the folder again16:29
oaulakhthanks very much16:29
fahadashMonkeyDust: It appears at the startup welcome screen, can we change that ?16:30
NeoKarnavarunendra,  gksu and gksudo are same atleast in ubuntu ;)16:30
varunendraoaulakh, close all instances of root file manager as soon as you are done. Enjoy :)16:30
oaulakhnow where i see my new theme that i recently paste16:30
oaulakhto apply16:30
oaulakhyeah i closed man16:30
fahadashMy wallpapere is not the same size as screen, so that color appears on the sides;16:30
pmenonhey folks, adobe acrobat prints a multi-page pdf on a single page .. any idea how to solve ?16:30
varunendraNeoKarna, but the package names are apparently not16:31
NeoKarnaoaulakh,  you would  probably get that in system settings-> appearance-> select the theme16:31
fahadashWho chose that maroon color to be background ?16:31
oaulakhit does not show me that theme16:32
MonkeyDustfahadash  i guess ubuntu-tweak let's you change the login background http://ubuntu-tweak.com/16:32
NeoKarnavarunendra,  gksudo is just a symbolic link to gksu http://askubuntu.com/questions/21033/what-is-the-difference-between-gksudo-and-gksu16:32
fahadashMonkeyDust: Is it hard to do ?16:32
varunendraoaulakh, you may have to log off, then re-login16:32
oaulakhok16:32
MonkeyDustfahadash  explore ubuntu-tweak a bit16:32
oaulakhwell try16:32
barihois there something like rsync, that works well over ftp? mirroring, basically. a gui ftp client that can do that would be nice.16:33
varunendraNeoKarna, yes I know that (now), I was talking about the package name (to be used with "apt-get install..")16:33
MonkeyDustbariho  there's grsync16:33
NeoKarnavarunendra,  ;)16:33
fahadashMonkeyDust: Thanks16:33
oaulakhit still showing nothing new16:34
NeoKarnaoaulakh,  also paste the theme folder in .themes folder which is a hidden folder (Ctrl +h to show hidden folder) in home16:34
oaulakhok16:34
varunendraoaulakh, did you follow some tutorial? Like I said before, I've never tried this myself, so not sure if just copying the folder will be all.16:35
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NeoKarnaoaulakh,  if .themes is not present create it16:35
oaulakhyeah i create iit and paste theme in it16:36
oaulakhthen?16:36
NeoKarnaoaulakh,  if you still can't see the theme in appearance, let me know16:37
oaulakhyeah i cant see it16:38
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oaulakhNeoKarna, yeah i cant see it16:38
NeoKarnaoaulakh,  follow this link  http://askubuntu.com/questions/213697/how-can-i-install-themes16:39
oaulakhokkk16:39
chaotic_goodcan I run windows 2012 on KVM? or XEN? what is that command to check if my cpu is KVM friendly?16:40
Fudusor gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme "CoolestThemeOnEarth"16:40
Fuduschange CoolestTheme to name of the folder you put in .themes16:40
zykotick9chaotic_good: cat /proc/cpuinfo | egrep '(vmx|svm)'16:41
compdocchaotic_good, try the command:  kvm-ok16:41
NeoKarnaoaulakh,  also remember that not all themes work well under unity. Be careful, installing themes  are risky. Also be careful with ubuntu tweak.16:41
oaulakhokkk thanks16:42
NeoKarnaoaulakh,  :)16:43
oaulakhNeoKarna, ;)16:43
Fudusoaulakh: you can use gsettings directly without needed to instead tweak16:44
NeoKarnaFudus,  wow I didn't know about gsettings. I've used ubuntu tweak and myunity(not available for 13.04 :(). Thanks for mentioning it.16:46
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MonkeyDustNeoKarna  in 13.04, myunity is called unity-tweak-tool16:46
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NeoKarnaMonkeyDust,  thanks , I didn't know that. I haven't used 13.04 yet. I currently use elementary(based on ubuntu 12.04 LTS)16:49
MonkeyDustNeoKarna  mind: elementary is not supported here16:49
NeoKarnaMonkeyDust,  it is a stripped version of 12.04 LTS ;)16:50
NeoKarnaMonkeyDust,  with a cooler interface16:50
avnishhow to initalise / in regular expression in php16:51
chaotic_good$ kvm-ok16:51
chaotic_goodINFO: Your CPU does not support KVM extensions16:51
zaggynlhi, anyone here using Evolution? I can t get my gmail account to show up16:51
chaotic_goodfail16:51
zaggynlits synchronizing but no johndoe@gmail.com in the left pane16:51
NeoKarnaMonkeyDust,  Ubuntu Tweak Tool is not like MyUnity of 12.04 or 12.10. It looks different.16:51
MonkeyDustNeoKarna  true, it's morfe elaborate16:52
MonkeyDustmore*16:52
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Fudustweak tool was called Mechanig, there are 3+ unity tweak utilties16:54
NeoKarnaMonkeyDust, do you mean by 3+ tweak utility in unity tweak tool ?16:56
Fudusunsettings,ubuntu-tweak,myunity,unity-tweak-tool16:57
Fudusand of course ccsm ;)16:57
MonkeyDustNeoKarna  yes, there are plenty tweak tools16:57
NeoKarnaFudus,  thanks !16:58
NeoKarnaMonkeyDust,  ;)16:58
Fudusgnome 3 has the boringly named gnome-tweak-tool which also can do gtk theme changes on unity16:58
NeoKarnaFudus,  I knew about MyUnity , Ubuntu-Tweak only. gnome-tweak-tool , thanks for mentioning it.17:01
NeoKarnaquit17:03
chaotic_goodiceWM17:03
chaotic_goodpidgin17:03
zetherooafter a power outage I rebooted my PC and got this message: "Network service discovery disabled. You current network has a .local  domain, which is not recommended and incompatible with the Avahi network  service discovery. The service has been disabled" - I rebooted and the message no longer shows up but now I cannot view any network shares ...17:05
fedeTullo hola..17:07
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yeatschaotic_good: you may need to enable virt extensions in your BIOS17:15
chaotic_goodoow17:15
chaotic_goodthats interesting17:15
reisioto do whatses?17:16
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CountryfiedLinuxWill all apps that work on Ubuntu also work on Ubuntu Touch? And if not yet, is that what the new package format will be all about?17:19
reisioCountryfiedLinux: not all, but most, technically17:19
CountryfiedLinuxreisio, Like Kdenlive for video editing and pavucontrol and ffmpeg, stuff like that?17:20
reisioCountryfiedLinux: what format are you talking about, though? :)17:20
CountryfiedLinuxreisio, The new Ubuntu package format coming out for 13.10 touch and 14.10 desktop.17:21
reisioCountryfiedLinux: the primary limiting factor will be things that aren't readily built on arm17:21
reisioCountryfiedLinux: which is called?17:21
CountryfiedLinuxreisio, I forgot17:21
reisiothis? https://click-package.readthedocs.org/en/latest/17:21
reisiothat doesn't seem like a new format so much as a modified version of the existing format17:22
reisiobut it's impossible to tell from this vague propaganda17:22
LordAioriaone question .. i have installed jailkit, i have created a user into jailkit ... then i have tried to enter with this user using SSH and i received this error : ERROR: failed to execute shell /bin/bash for user XXXX check the permissions and libraries of /opt/jail//bin/bash . i see that at my folder /opt/jail there isn't any bin folder... i have used jk_cp -v -f /opt/jail /bin/bash17:23
CountryfiedLinuxreisio, well new something to make it easier for devs to make apps for Ubuntu.17:23
LordAiorianow i can enter with my user using SSH but ... when i have tried to use a LS command it says : not command found ..17:24
reisioCountryfiedLinux: I don't know about that, it's probably intended to make it "easier" for people to think of .deb's as something like .apk's17:24
LordAioriahow can i solve this situation? i saw that into /opt/jail there isn't any opt folder17:24
CountryfiedLinuxHere it is http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20130909#news17:24
daftykinsLordAioria: are you sure BASH is supposed to remain as the default shell for whatever you're trying to do? surely there's documentation for whatever you're using17:24
CountryfiedLinuxreisio, ^17:24
CountryfiedLinuxclick packages17:24
LordAioria[daftykins] i was following this guide: http://www.binarytides.com/setup-a-jail-shell-with-jailkit-on-ubuntu/17:25
reisioCountryfiedLinux: sounds like it's intended for rudimentary "apps" of the sort people like for phones17:26
reisiolike angry birds and todo lists17:26
LordAioriabut following it ... i have this situation17:26
reisioterrible name, click packages17:26
reisiosounds like an awful reinterpretation of .bin's17:26
CountryfiedLinuxWell names for Ubuntu stuff tend to be terrible haha17:26
reisioAKA random unmanaged installers like on Windows17:27
reisioanyways17:27
CountryfiedLinuxI dunno17:27
reisiolike I said, the major limiting factor will be the arm arch, vs x86/etc.17:27
reisiomost software is portable across all, and has already been ported17:27
reisiosome isn't17:27
jophish_Yo yo yo17:28
reisioyo17:28
jophish_Just booted up this "ubuntu software center", The banner ad at the top for "Don't Starve" features the words "Now available on steam"...17:28
LordAioriais there any guide that could help me to create a jail one group of people (SSH and SFTP) into one folder (using ubuntu) ????17:29
reisioLordAioria: rssh kind of does that17:29
LordAioriai will search for it17:30
LordAioriabecause it's the first time that i see it17:31
LordAioria[reisio] but is only scp and sftp ... what happends with ssh?17:32
eb0thi guys i just wanted to know ....is fecking ubuntu ....fecking spyware17:33
reisioeb0t: not really17:33
zykotick9eb0t: that isn't a technical question, thus it's Offtopic for this channel.17:34
reisioeb0t: it comes with software that helps amazon sell you things17:34
ThanatosOfOneI cannot get my ubuntu 13.04 server networking configured for static IP17:34
eb0tah right17:34
reisiowhich is lame, but not exactly a surprise17:34
zykotick9ThanatosOfOne: are you using /etc/network/interfaces or Network Manager?17:34
ThanatosOfOneMy /etc/network/interfaces file appears to be set properly, yet it will not start17:34
eb0tzykotick9 fecking spyware is fecking spyware...no matter how you write it17:34
reisiowhen you search for something and amazon results come up, you know why17:34
reisio:)17:35
ThanatosOfOnezyk Interfaces17:35
zykotick9ThanatosOfOne: paste.ubuntu.com your /e/n/interfaces17:35
eb0tyou cant get more technial that THAT17:35
eeoshi everybody .... I have a ralink rt2500 wireless card and I cannot make it work17:35
eeosanyone who knows where I can find instructions?17:35
zykotick9eb0t: trust me, I'm NOT defending ubuntu/canonical.  just don't want these discussion type questions in #u17:35
eb0tthrw your fecking wireless card ...in the fecking bin17:36
eb0tsorry guys im just practticing a new troll technique.17:36
DJoneseb0t: Mind the language17:36
ThanatosOfOnelets see if I can get it in here17:36
boneslashyou are so rude eb0t :(17:36
chemicalrageGuys I need some help installing Ubuntu17:38
chemicalrageis anyone here?17:38
hiowhy is ubuntu so shitty? holy fuck, I cant even use the mousewheel to scroll through my unity list, it's like this entire distro was made by paid zombies17:38
Benkinoobychemicalrage: just ask your question here :)17:39
chemicalrageI am trying to dual boot Windows 8 and Ubuntu 12.04 on a HP laptop. What should I choose as the bootloader17:39
eb0tagreed hio...at least yours works ...poor eeos had to throw his wireless card in the fecking bin17:40
chemicalragetheres a 199MB system partition17:40
chemicalrageand a C drive which was used to install windows 817:40
Benkinoobychemicalrage: grub - the windows boot loader will not recognize ubuntu. but you have to mind UEFI17:40
swcdxhi, is there a samba check list for ubuntu? I have tried everything and even mimicked another share. it's still telling me access denied under windows. I have it set to guest okay and my permissions on the share are at 777. any suggestions? TY17:40
chemicalrageYup, the grub17:40
chemicalragewhere does it belong17:41
chemicalragein the system partition or C drive17:41
Impossiblewhere do i find peerguardian build dependencies on ubuntu17:41
Benkinoobychemicalrage: no, it belongs to the master boot record17:41
chemicalrageThe thing is I am trying to use 3 partitions - 1 for root, 1 for home and 1 for swap17:42
chemicalragejust a sec I ll send a screenshot17:42
swcdxLOL17:42
swcdxfigured out my problem17:42
h00khio: please keep the language appropriate in here17:42
chaotic_goodWINE is really good wow17:42
chaotic_good0 bs17:42
chaotic_goodWOW17:42
ThePendulumHow can I access a USB stick from an SSH session?17:43
h00kThePendulum: if it's mounted remotely, it should come up in /media/devicenamehere17:43
ThePendulumoof17:44
ThePendulumDoesn't seem to be17:44
eb0tyou see chemical rage ...what you really should do is install linux first and put your grub bootloader on ..and then install windows on a later partition17:44
ThePendulumSomeone is showing a presentation using our media center, and we expect him to be a traitor17:44
deepblue http://mibpaste.com/f0IjmS , i wanna delete thid line : Windows NT/2000/XP (loader) on /dev/sda117:44
null0anyone know GRE and source NAT'ing in ubunto?17:45
eb0twindows doesnt like other systems being on the same disk17:45
boneslashI agree with ebot :D :D17:45
chemicalragehttp://i.imgur.com/u02VmSX.jpg17:45
chemicalragesorry for the late reply17:45
Benkinoobychemicalrage: np17:45
chemicalrageignore the virtual box17:46
eb0tand if you try to put your grub bootloader where your windows bootloader is...then your windows wont work any more17:46
chemicalragei just want to know what should go in the bootloader section17:46
zykotick9eb0t: fyi, it's a lot easier to install windows first, then ubuntu...  or windows is gonna overwrite grub17:46
ThePendulumIt says a device is mounted to /media/simenon/44D6-68A017:46
ThePendulumBut I can't access that location for some reason, it doesn't exist17:46
oaulakhhow to remove unity title bar?17:46
eb0tzykotick9 fyi ...no it isnt17:46
oaulakhhow to remove unity title bar?17:46
Benkinoobychemicalrage: um, i think you said dualboot - where is your windows?17:46
reisiooaulakh: are you trying to remove unity title bar?17:47
eb0tno it wont overwrite grub at all17:47
chemicalrageits in the C drive17:47
oaulakhyeah i want17:47
eb0tif you know what your doing and partition your drive correctly17:47
oaulakhto17:47
chemicalrageshould I use that partition17:47
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ThePendulumNevermind, got it17:47
DJoneseb0t: Stop giving bad advice, Windows will overwrite grub if its installed after Ubuntu17:47
oaulakhhow to remove unity title bar?17:47
oaulakhhow to remove unity title bar?17:47
Benkinoobychemicalrage: um, are you sure you know what you are doing? on this partition layout you posted, there will be no windows17:47
MonkeyDust!repeat | oaulakh17:48
ubottuoaulakh: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/17:48
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ActionParsnipDjones: you can reinstate it with livecd....17:48
DJonesActionParsnip: I know17:48
chemicalrageyup I know this is just a sample screenshot of a a virtual box installation17:48
chemicalrageTo ask my doubt17:48
g105bCan anyone help me work out where to start debugging why my laptop insists of hanging for 5-10 seconds every so often? It only happens in Ubuntu, it's a really new laptop.17:48
ActionParsnipDjones : so it's not wholly bad17:48
lossg105b, tail  -f /var/log/syslog17:48
Benkinoobychemicalrage: ok - so usually ou want to install it on /dev/sdX17:49
ActionParsnipG105b: check ram using Memtest86 from Grub17:49
Benkinoobychemicalrage: no numbers at the end17:49
chemicalrageok17:49
chemicalragewhat exactly is the 199MB system partition17:49
Benkinoobychemicalrage: if there is only sdX it means the MDR of that hard disk. if there is a number, like sdX2 it means the second partition17:49
g105bMy initial idea is that the hang is something todo with the hard drive ... happens when I'm torrenting or saving large photographs in gimp.17:49
deepblue http://mibpaste.com/f0IjmS , i wanna delete thid line : Windows NT/2000/XP (loader) on /dev/sda117:49
reisiochemicalrage: for Windows?17:50
chemicalrageyup17:50
reisiohang on17:50
chemicalrageokay17:50
Benkinoobydeepblue: why do you want to delete it?17:51
deepblue<Benkinooby>it's not working17:51
ActionParsnipG105b : run an fsck from livecd as well. You may want to test the drive using manufacturers tool on the ultimate boot cd17:51
reisiosorry, crazy lawnmowers outside17:51
Benkinoobydeepblue: do you have windows XP still installed on sda1?17:52
reisiochemicalrage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_partition_and_boot_partition17:52
chemicalragethanks lemme chk it out17:52
deepblueBenkinooby: yep17:52
reisiochemicalrage: basically it's just a Microsoft oddity without EFI, and with EFI it doubles as the EFI partition, AIUI17:52
chemicalrageSo thats not the bootloader?17:52
Benkinoobydeepblue: well then i guess you want to make it work again, instead of removing it, no?17:52
deepblueBenkinooby: i mean no17:52
reisiosometimes they also double as rescue partitions17:52
reisiochemicalrage: partitions aren't boot loaders, sometimes they hold them, however17:53
ActionParsnipWindows xp is eol on 1st April 2014.17:53
chemicalragethats what is confusing me17:53
deepblueBenkinooby: IT'S MOUNTED ON /SDB117:53
chemicalrageis there anyway to know where the bootloader is on Windows 8?17:53
chemicalragevia cmd or anythign?17:53
reisiochemicalrage: in the first partition17:53
deepblueBenkinooby:  in /dev/sdb117:54
chemicalragejust a sec I ll send u a screenshot17:54
Benkinoobychemicalrage: think of it this ways: you have the BOOT MANAGER in the MASTERBOOTRECORD. that manager then chooses the BOOTLOADER. usually the boot loader is also placed in or close to the master boot record. but its also common to place the boot loader of each specific OS in the start of the partition of that OS.17:54
ActionParsnipChemicalrage: sudo update-grub ,may show the Windows version17:54
Benkinoobychemicalrage: power on -> boot manager -> boot loader -> operating system17:55
Benkinoobychemicalrage: many bootloaders are bootmanagers at the same time, so the borders are not very clear17:55
deepblueBenkinooby:  i want 2 delete this line:Windows NT/2000/XP (loader) on /dev/sda117:55
chemicalragehttp://i.imgur.com/76xY8FD.png17:55
Benkinoobydeepblue: i know - but your statements are contradicting17:56
deepblueBenkinooby: ,sorry,didn't mean 217:56
Benkinoobydeepblue: so now, what is currently in sda1 ?=17:56
ThanatosOfOneScrew it, I am burnin this VM and starting over17:56
deepblueBenkinooby: nothing in /dev/sda117:57
Benkinoobydeepblue: if there was nothing, there wouldn't be a win XP boot loader17:57
chemicalrageThis is my windows 8 installation17:57
chemicalragethat manager then chooses the BOOTLOADER17:57
Benkinoobydeepblue: reformat that partition17:57
chemicalrageoops sec17:57
chemicalragehttp://i.imgur.com/76xY8FD.png17:57
deepblueBenkinooby:  it's an old installation of windows which i deleted a long time ago17:58
Benkinoobydeepblue: ok. reformat that partition. that should kill the boot loader in that partition. then do update-grub17:59
deepblueBenkinooby:  i can't format it.i have files in it18:00
blaboomTook a long-ish hiatus from ubuntu dev, read an article about Ubuntu being the future of gaming. What changed?18:00
chemicalrage?18:00
MonkeyDustdeepblue  backup first18:00
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deepblueBenkinooby: i haven't got the space18:00
ActionParsnipDeepblue: usb storage is cheap18:01
ActionParsnipDeepblue : if the drive ide fails. Where is your data?18:01
deepblueBenkinooby: it's 63 GB18:01
Benkinoobydeepblue: hm, i think you have three ways: [1] remove the boot loader (i don't know how to do that) [2] mabye you can set that partition to be ignored by grub. i think grub has a ignore list [3] mabye it is sufficent to remove that bootable-flag from that partition (you can do that with fdisk)18:02
Naturalreformat18:02
Naturalthats it18:02
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ActionParsnipBenkinooby: could use dd to zero the mbr (risky)18:02
chemicalrage@Benkinooby could u determine which partition has the bootloader from this screenshot please - http://i.imgur.com/76xY8FD.png18:03
BenkinoobyActionParsnip: i thought about that too, but i don't want to recommend that to others. i am helping deepblue18:03
deepbluei wanna do it by means of editing boot.cfg18:03
eeoseb0t: why? is it impossible to use it?18:03
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deepblueor whatever nessecary other file18:04
Benkinoobydeepblue: hm, do you use grub or grub2?18:04
ActionParsnipDeepblue : editting grub.cfg is pointless. Next kernel install will put it back how it is now18:04
Te3-BloodyIronwhy use likewiseopen instead of samba to authenticate against an AD domain?18:04
ActionParsnipTe3-bloodyIron: why not?18:05
deepblueok,i'll delete it again by then18:05
eb0teeos its not impossible...you just need to know how to identify it and make sure all your configurations are correct18:05
Benkinoobychemicalrage: hm, i can't. i am guessing it is C: since that has "Boot"... better ask in ##windows18:05
chemicalrageOkay, thanks a lot everyone.18:05
wilee-nileedeepblue, I would only be concerned that W7 and the old XP are intertwined windows tends to do this, so that you have some Bcd for W7 is in sda1, we can look at it with a script and tell.18:05
Te3-BloodyIronActionParsnip: because I can do full user and group auth with just samba? why should i use likewiseopen at all?18:05
deepblueBenkinooby: it's Mint 15,GRUB II18:05
wizarddI have two screens, one in laptop, one other. different size, fglrx driver doesn't let me shut down the laptop screen and then enable 3d applications to larger screen18:05
eeoseb0t: but how? I have tried all that I know ....18:05
wizarddopen source driver works18:05
wizarddbut worse performance18:06
eb0tcan you see the device in your /dev directory18:06
ActionParsnipTe3-bloodyIron : if you have something in place that works why change it18:06
Benkinoobychemicalrage: sorry i couldn't help you. as soon as you know where your windows boot is you can can come here again, i guess :)18:06
deepblue<wilee-nilee> i did it b4 and it was ok18:06
wilee-nileedeepblue, Cool as long as your sure is all.18:06
eeoseb0t: what should it look like?18:06
Benkinoobydeepblue: ok, as i see it, there is a way to tell grub2 to ignore certain partitions - i think that's the easies way18:07
Te3-BloodyIronActionParsnip: I don't have something in place, I just don't see why anyone would use Likewise instead of Samba/Kerberos/Winbind18:07
deepbluewilee-nilee: it happened again after reinstallation of Mint18:07
Te3-BloodyIronI want to know the reasoning behind it18:07
ActionParsnipTe3 -bloodyIron : could use LDAP instead18:08
wilee-nileedeepblue, are you familiar with the boot script and what is in a grub, xp, and windows boot?18:08
Te3-BloodyIronActionParsnip: that doesn't answer my question at all18:08
Te3-BloodyIronI'm asking why would someone use LikewiseOpen18:08
eeoseb0t: I have tried configuring wpa by hand ...18:08
eb0teeos look thorough this document and although it is not specific to you it will show you where to find stuff18:08
eb0thttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_Setup18:08
Benkinoobydeepblue: again - make grub2 to ignore that partition when it's makin it's list - that's the easist and safest way18:08
deepbluewilee-nilee:  u may say so18:09
deepblueBenkinooby: how 2 do it?18:09
ActionParsnipTe3-bloodyIron : each has its advantages18:09
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eb0tlspci -k18:10
eb0tetc18:10
wilee-nileedeepblue, Cool all three grub, xp, and W7 have different setups is all, good help here, and if you have a W7 recovery or install disc/usb you can fix it if needed.18:10
Te3-BloodyIronActionParsnip: by all means feel free to actually tell me the advantages of LikewiseOpen18:10
Benkinoobydeepblue: deepblue for example here http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/1028-how-to-grub2-hide-windows-recovery-partition/18:10
fission6does /tmp get erased on some freq basis18:10
Benkinoobydeepblue: of course you have to adapt it to your needs18:10
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deepblueok,Benk18:11
jhutchinsfission6: Only on reboot.18:11
JoBArTe_Skuldguys18:11
fission6interesting18:11
deepblueBenkinooby: ok,thanx18:11
JoBArTe_Skuldwhat the best for improve a fileshare server? lighttpd or nginx?18:11
jhutchinsfission6: /var/tmp/ is for stuff that needs to survive reboot.18:11
eb0tthen check your  iplink command etc ..and keep stepping through until you realise where the problem may lie18:11
Benkinoobydeepblue: i just saw - the link i sent you is based on this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1330700&p=8343454#post834345418:12
fission6ok, was looking for s pace to through files that would be flushed on a feq basis18:12
Sideyhello18:13
ActionParsnipTe3-bloodyIron : www.purplerage.com/likewise/enterprise.php18:13
Te3-BloodyIronI take it from your silence there is no known advantage to using LikewiseOpen18:13
Te3-BloodyIronerm im backpedaling on that statement18:13
stantshello18:14
PiciTe3-BloodyIron: How about we don't know.18:14
ActionParsnipTe3-bloodyIron : of course there is or nobody would use it. What a ridiculous statement. Think about it18:14
stantsi have a point of sale system that i need to make boot18:14
Te3-BloodyIronwell what you link here is the enterprise version18:14
Te3-BloodyIronyet all the guides i find are for the open version, as in non enterprise18:15
Te3-BloodyIronand in that case, i don't yet see a reason to use LikewiseOpen, as in the non-enterprise version, instead of samba18:15
ActionParsnipTe3-bloodyIron : "I'm a developmer of likewise but there is no advantage or point to my work but I'll just keep on making new releases"18:15
Te3-BloodyIronthe features you show me here for enterprise are valid indeed, but this is not quite the same version that so many guides direct you to use18:15
ActionParsnipTe3-bloodyIron : is what you just implied18:16
Te3-BloodyIronpeople actually get paid to write non-premium oss software btw18:16
Te3-BloodyIroni take it you've never heard of i dunno openssh?18:16
ActionParsnipTe3-bloodyIron : I use it daily18:16
ActionParsnipAnyway food time.18:17
Benkinoobymahlzeit!18:17
Te3-BloodyIronif you dont understand the point i just made, then i suspect you cannot answer my basic question i've now asked more than 3 times18:17
nice-coderThe LTS Enablement stacks are suitable for only x86 architecture or x86-64 too?18:17
Naturali like turtles18:17
boneslashI love trains... :D18:17
Te3-BloodyIronwell this has been a productive time, cya folks18:18
Benkinoobydunno if this is ot: what do you use for backup? so far i use dirvish and i am pretty happy with it - just interested what others use18:19
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Naturalcopy paste18:19
MonkeyDustBenkinooby  rsync18:20
eeoseb0t: I keep getting device failed to enter state 4 in the dmesg18:20
eb0tis it a plug in usb device18:21
eb0tor is it proper installed card18:21
eeoseb0t: proper installe card18:21
param_hello i want to extract a file in /usc/local directory, but it gives error you dont hve permissions , how to fix it ?18:22
MonkeyDustparam_  use sudo to extract it18:23
param_i am not extracting through terminal18:23
param_using archive manager18:24
eb0tim not sure but you should maybe look here  ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=155284718:24
jhutchinsparam_: Don't.18:24
param_have to extract through terminal only ?18:25
jhutchinsparam_: You have more options and control that way.18:26
guest9999hi, I have broadcom wifi and I can't get it to connect to my wireless modem.18:27
eb0ti just typed 'device failed to enter state 4' in google and some listings came up18:27
eb0tthat one i gave you doesnt look like the best one18:27
eb0tthere is another with a fix.18:27
nutzzhey guys, i'm learning about X server, the author of book that i'm reading says something a bout the /etc/x11/ directory, but i can't seem to find this directory on my system. maybe the data that should be in that directory are stored in another place?18:27
eb0tbut i cant put the address in because it on another computer18:27
SietsemIts in /etc/X1118:28
SietsemWith a capital X18:28
Sietsem:P18:28
nutzz:) this is embarrassing18:29
SietsemHaha :D18:29
eeoseb0t: just tried as well, but it does not fix it ....18:29
yugandharHi Team18:30
yugandharI couldn't able to login to the remote machine18:30
Benkinooby!broadcom18:31
yugandharcan anyone help on this ?18:31
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx18:31
Benkinoobyguest9999: ^ look tis18:32
jhutchinsparam_: What kind of archive is it?18:33
param_its a hadoop archive18:33
yugandharPlease check the error on this link : http://pastebin.com/1QvrjnTz18:33
param_i downloaded hadoop18:33
jhutchinsparam_: zip?  tar?  tgz?18:33
param_and want to extract in /usr/local directory18:33
param_tar18:34
param_tar.gz18:34
nutzzhey guys, in /etc/X11 shouldn't be a xorg.conf file?18:34
jhutchinsparam_: tar -xzvf <path/to/file>, run in /usr/local18:34
Benkinoobynutzz: do you really want to mess around with x11 directly?18:34
jhutchinsparam_: Probably with sudo.18:34
yugandharhttp://pastebin.com/1QvrjnTz18:34
daftykinsnutzz: these days configuration is automatic so there won't often be one18:34
DJones!xorgconf | nutzz18:35
ubottunutzz: The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf - ATI/AMD ( fglrx driver ) specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd - NVidia ( nvidia driver )specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia man xorg.conf for file structure and syntax.18:35
nutellaanyone here use ubuntu with an alienware machine?18:35
xangua!anyone | nutella18:35
ubottunutella: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.18:35
param_file is i downloads folder18:35
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Benkinoobyfu* ! i forgot to buy nutella18:35
xangua!language | Benkinooby18:35
ubottuBenkinooby: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.18:35
Benkinoobysorry18:36
nutellabetter yet, I'm having issues with bumblebee and nvidia driverss18:36
asdfghjklDo I have to have a hard drive to boot an Ubuntu Live CD??? Everytime I tried to boot it said I needed a medium.18:37
BenkinoobyMonkeyDust: thx for your reply ('bout backup) - maybe you want to look into dirvish. basically it's some smart rysnc with cron18:37
daftykinsasdfghjkl: no you don't need any other drives. are you sure that's what the error means?18:37
Benkinoobyasdfghjkl: no. did you check your BIOS settings?18:37
wilee-nileeasdfghjkl, nope, when do you see this, are you sure you are booting the disc?18:38
asdfghjklWell, when I went to another computer which had a HDD it worked.18:38
Benkinoobyasdfghjkl: the problem is, that you computer is not trying to start from CD - you need to set that in BIOS or, if available, during boot18:38
Benkinoobyasdfghjkl: the magic word is boot order18:38
asdfghjklI checked the boot sequence, none of it worked even after changing it around...18:39
param_can you tell how to write the path,   file name is hadoop-1.2.1.tar.gz and its in Downloads folder18:39
param_sudo tar -xzf /Downloads/hadoop-1.2.1.tar.gz          dis gives me error18:40
esuavedoes anyone know where i can get the list of repos to use still for 8.04?18:40
asdfghjklDoes medium mean a HDD or an OS? Kind of like a foundation?18:40
Benkinoobyasdfghjkl: if you are 100% sure your boot order is correct, and the CD works on other computers, i'd test the CD-drive18:40
jhutchinsparam_: if you do pwd you will see what directory you are currently in.  It's probably something like /home/param_/.  The tilde (~) substitutes for your $HOME, so ~/Downloads/<file> or /home/param_/Downloads/<file>.18:41
esuavetrying to install a few packages but i see ubuntu got rid of its 8.04 repos18:41
param_thanks18:41
jhutchinsparam_: Some people get touchy about /msg18:41
param_problem sovlved18:41
param_solved18:41
jhutchinsparam_: I don't, but I don't usually see them until long after you're gone.18:41
eb0teeos try doing...........iwconfig wlan0 power off18:41
param_Cheers ,18:42
asdfghjklI got all the way to the point where it asked would I like to boot the 64bit or 32bit version of Raring Ringtail... Then it said there wasn't a medium.18:42
eb0tthat disables power saving and then the card has continuous supply18:42
eb0tand the bug may stop showing up18:42
eeoseb0t: yes, already tried, did not work18:42
internetpandawhats that big shared library for building stuff under ubuntu called?18:42
internetpandaapt-get install what?18:42
jhutchinsparam_: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxcommand.org/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/05/20/terminal1.html http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/~kevin/unix-tutorial/toc.html18:42
polteris there an easy command to see what's automatically started at boot?18:43
param_Thanks :)18:43
esuaveso if i cannot use my sources.list anymore because it is out of date.. where can i get a new list of sources to apt get stuff?18:44
asdfghjklWhat is a medium? All I know is I need it to boot my Live CD. Is it a hard drive or OS? Because my comp doesn't have one- and my Live CD actually works on ones that do.18:44
yugandharHi Techs,  I am worrying alot about it18:44
yugandharplease please help me on this18:44
eb0ttry that same command but put in ra0 rather than wlan018:45
asdfghjklWhat does the word MEDIUM mean?18:46
asdfghjklsrry about all caps on that18:46
yeatspolter: you can do 'ls /etc/rc2.d/' (that assumes a runlevel of 2 which is the default for ubuntu desktop)18:46
polterasdfghjkl: it's a CD, or a USB drive or a network boot drive18:46
polterasdfghjkl: it's not just one thing18:47
asdfghjklCan I boot an Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Live CD without a HDD in my computer?18:47
polteryeats: awesome, thanks18:47
polterasdfghjkl: yes, you should be able to do that just fine18:47
polteryeats: do you know if it's safe to remove stuff from there? I have an nginx service listed there even though I uninstalled nginx for example18:48
asdfghjklTo boot an ubuntu Live CD, what should I select to boot first in BIOS boot sequence???18:49
polterasdfghjkl: DVD/CDROM18:49
asdfghjklThanks polter18:49
omid8bimohey im getting this err when i use sudo, "sudo: unable to resolve host dhcppc1" but my hostname is something else in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts; any idea?18:51
fdsfhttp://imgur.com/a/DBix4    imgur ubuntu look18:51
polterdo not click that link18:51
imanchey ... .i accidently nuked /var/cache/*  any ideas if/what is required for system to function?18:57
Impossibleiam on ubuntu and want to make a bootable ubuntu usb for another pc. what program allows me to o this18:58
polterImpossible: unetbootin19:00
wilee-nileeImpossible, startup disk creator is onboard19:00
Rory4/join #r.trees19:01
Impossiblepolter wilee-nilee unetbook from soft center correct19:01
wilee-nileeImpossible, that is unetbootin, quite usable, already installed though is the one I mentioned.19:02
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kristalIs there any alternative to flash yet that somewhat works?19:06
tgm4883kristal, HTML519:06
digitalknighthu all19:06
digitalknighti needed a bit of help please19:07
kristaltgm4883: Sadly we developers are idiots so that adoption is going really slow.19:07
tgm4883kristal, then I'm not sure what you are asking?19:07
digitalknighti am looking to input a c++ code file in another C++ program19:08
Impossiblepolter wilee-nille should i format the usb in a certain format or will unet do it for me19:08
digitalknightqnd then compile it19:08
kristaltgm4883: gnash and the others19:08
digitalknightcan anyone help me wih it please?19:08
tgm4883kristal, that isn't an alternative to flash19:08
kristaltgm4883: Is it to adobe's flash player which has in the wild exploits19:09
tgm4883kristal, I.... Have you tried openjdk?19:09
Impossiblewhat format should a usb be for it to be made ubuntu bootable19:09
wilee-nileeImpossible, fat3219:09
kristaltgm4883: There's a java based flash player?19:10
tgm4883kristal, yea, I'm apparently on crack right now. Trying to do too many things at once. Don't mind me :/19:10
kristalAnyone know if exfat works? I know fat32 and ntfs does...19:11
Rory!gnash | kristal and yes exfat works19:11
ubottukristal and yes exfat works: Gnash is an open-source Flash replacement. It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/19:11
RoryOh hold on kristal I may be mistaken about exfat, let me check for you19:12
wilee-nileekristal, I have always used adobe and never been compromised in 7 years use, you can get a bit ocd in this area. ;)19:12
digitalknightanybody,please?19:12
digitalknighti am trying to call bfork and replace it with gcc19:12
Rory!info exfat-fuse | kristal19:12
ubottukristal: exfat-fuse (source: fuse-exfat): read and write exFAT driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (raring), package size 28 kB, installed size 89 kB (Only available for linux-any; kfreebsd-any)19:12
digitalknightbut cant really check the error codes19:12
kristalRory:  Whooo, it works now huh, ages ago it was still alpha. Good... I use exfat on my windows SSD.19:13
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deegenIs there currently a way to send SMS messages from an iPhone cabled to a Ubuntu machine?19:14
kristaldeegen: Hmm, I know you can with andriod and firefoxos, I think there's an app for iphone which relays sms to email...19:15
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Eduard_MunteanuSay I want to install and configure Ubuntu once, then replicate it on different machines. Is there some way to "refresh" a system after I install the clone, like say regenerate ssh keys and filesystem UUIDs.19:18
Eduard_MunteanuErm, that was a question. :)19:19
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: make a little bash script?19:19
Eduard_MunteanuBenkinooby: that's what I'm trying to avoid, I'm looking for a generic and already-done thing.19:20
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: also as far as i know you can set up a server to serve out the correct stuff to each machines19:20
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: so it will boot ofer lan (PXE) and automatically draw the correct image / setting19:21
Rorykristal: I know, right? I looked at Gnash in something like 2006 and it *sucked* - glad to see it actually can be used now in the real world!19:21
Benkinooby!gnash19:21
ubottuGnash is an open-source Flash replacement. It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/19:21
TJ-With Unity on 13.04 how can it be stopped from auto-re-opening an LVM VG that is manually closed?19:21
Eduard_MunteanuBenkinooby: MAAS or stuff like cobbler? Yeah, but I don't have a master server available right now.19:21
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: how many computers are you speaking of?19:21
Eduard_MunteanuBenkinooby: around 2519:22
internetpandawhat library am I missing? "/usr/bin/ld cannot find -lboost_thread"19:22
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: is it for a school?19:23
wilee-nileeTJ-, Is it in fstab?19:23
Eduard_MunteanuBenkinooby: no, they're all in different locations... they're playing ads on TVs in stores19:24
badasscan anyone assist me with setting up postfix via webmin?19:24
badassI'm having trouble authenticating with smtp remotely19:24
wilee-nileeTJ-, waht exactly is "LVM VG"19:25
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: make one of them your cobbler server. OR, use a live system on them anyway19:25
TJ-wilee-nilee: No, I'm currently building a whole-disk encryption USB flash device, and each time I do "vgchange -an $VG" something in Unity/Nautilus immediately auto-reopens the VG and enumerates the LVs!19:26
TJ-wilee-nilee: I tried disabling the dconf automount options for media but that isn't it19:26
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: get a live system, remaster it, and use it. it will have many advantages too19:26
Eduard_MunteanuBenkinooby: I can't really do that, there's no other (usable) computer to act as a server locally.19:26
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: e.g. you can make it read only after the remaster, so security will be better19:26
TJ-wilee-nilee: LVM VG is Logical Volume Management, Volume Group. The container for LVs (Logical Volumes)19:27
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wilee-nileeTJ-, Thats what I thought, I'm not familiar is all.19:27
TJ-wilee-nilee: I've watched the logs, nothing showing up to give a clue as to which process is doing it although I suspect gvfs19:27
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: how do you feel about remastered life system19:27
Eduard_MunteanuBenkinooby: you mean preconfiguring a server then cloning it? Yeah, that's what I've done so far.19:28
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: other than [1] scripts, [2] cobbler and alike [3] remastered life system i am out of ideas19:28
Eduard_MunteanuBenkinooby: oh, you mean live as in live cd?19:28
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: cloning a server?19:28
TJ-Eduard_Munteanu: Are you trying to set up a TFTP server for PXE boots? You could use a VM with dnsmasq and tftp-hpa / tftpd19:28
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: yes19:28
Eduard_MunteanuTJ-: no, not really19:29
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: yes, live as in live CD19:29
Eduard_MunteanuBenkinooby: that seems difficult to customize for this purpose, lemme think19:29
designbybeck___My Notification area always posts shows old content...like days later I see it pop up in the HUD. Not sure why it does that? Can I just turn it off?19:30
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: well, you can do it on an usb-stick. then custiomize as you want it. and then reporduce that usb stick 25 times and mount it at the target machines as read only19:30
Eduard_MunteanuBenkinooby: I can make it a partition, I need persistent settings and data.19:31
Eduard_MunteanuPartition on an internal HDD.19:31
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: sure. you can make 2 partiton on it or on internal hdd19:31
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: you can also install that live system as a live system(!) on the hdds - no need for usb-sticks19:32
Eduard_MunteanuYeah, that's what I meant.19:32
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: although using a live system might be some kind of over-kill19:33
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: maybe you also askin #debian for ideas?19:33
LorraHi everybody, tonight I was happily using fluxbox when pixels started falling like snowflakes on my screen and I had to restart my computer in order for this to stop. I use lightdm as  a login manager, but it wouldn't stop there either. Does anybody have a clue of what can this be due to?19:33
lolfunnygaiHai. There's an envelope beside my clock on the top of the screen. It annoys me, since I don't use it. How can I get rid of it?19:33
BenkinoobyLorra: can you show us a screenshot?19:34
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: are those computers also connected via network?19:34
Eduard_MunteanuHm, I don't remember asking the same question in #debian, I did ask about automated installs.19:35
Eduard_MunteanuBenkinooby: yes, not the same LAN segment though.19:35
LorraBenkinooby, I've restarted my computer, now it's gone19:35
Eduard_MunteanuThey're in stores all over the country.19:35
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: oh, i was suggest that you ask there19:35
sas12hello19:35
sas12guys i cant buy something from humblebundles19:36
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: can you access them via ssh, or put them in a vpn or so? how ill you manage them?19:36
sas12i need help. can gift natural selection 219:36
LorraBenkinooby, it never happened to me so far though, have been using various linuxes for almost 8 years now19:36
BenkinoobyLorra: maybe it was a screensaver?19:36
BenkinoobyLorra: iirc there is a "pixels falling down" screensaver19:36
Eduard_MunteanuBenkinooby: yeah, I do have SSH access, there's a single server giving them files as well.19:36
Eduard_Munteanu*and there's a19:37
wilee-nileeLorra, There are effects in compiz which will do this, but fluxbox would not be using compiz, unless you have set it up.19:37
LorraBenkinooby, no, it wasn't, it would stop when I move my mouse otherwise, asking for password.19:37
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: and you can't use that server for network setup?19:37
Eduard_MunteanuBenkinooby: it's not on the same LAN physically, so PXE wouldn't work.19:37
Lorrawilee-nilee, I don't use compiz...19:38
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: oh yes, sorry forgot19:38
wilee-nileeLorra, I figured that with fluxbox, just commenting.19:38
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: i think in that case a live system probably is a good guess - but maybe there are more professional solutions19:38
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BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: just make a live system on a usbstick. modify it as you need it. and the clone the usbstick - or the hdds, as you like19:39
Eduard_MunteanuBenkinooby: well actually there are two separate problems: (1) installing the system, and (2) (re)configuring it.19:40
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: the advantage of live systems is (when done correctly), that they also cut down logging and stuff that might cause truoble (not enough space and such)19:40
miss_lolfunnyhow does apt-get remove differ from apt-get purge?19:40
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: well, these computers. are the allready in their locations?19:40
zykotick9miss_lolfunny: purge removes teh config files in /etc19:40
TJ-miss_lolfunny: purge will remove config files that remove leaves alone19:40
anonymous_miss_lolfunny  :    man apt-get    ;D19:41
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Eduard_MunteanuBenkinooby: yes, and I initially cloned an install onto them. But we're going to ship some more and reinstall the existing ones at some point.19:41
miss_lolfunnyI just uninstalled indicator-messages.. what did I just uninstall?19:42
Eduard_MunteanuBenkinooby: still, if I preconfigure one in a VM, I have to (1) clone it, which is easy, and (2) refresh SSH keys, set up networking etc.19:42
miss_lolfunnyI did that to get rid of the envelope beside the clock panel19:42
BenkinoobyEduard_Munteanu: i think a script will be the easiest way19:43
trismmiss_lolfunny: that's what it is, although you'll likely have to log out/back in to see it removed19:43
TJ-Eduard_Munteanu: You're trying to install multiple identical systems, is that it? (I missed your original question)19:43
Eduard_MunteanuTJ-: yes19:43
Ben64miss_lolfunny: you shouldn't remove things that you don't know what they are/do, you can break your system19:43
miss_lolfunnyk thanks trism lol19:43
miss_lolfunnyBen64: that's how you learn :)19:43
TJ-Eduard_Munteanu: Have you looked at creating a custom seed? see  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement19:43
TJ-Eduard_Munteanu: Probably more relevant to your specific needs https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-using.html19:44
Eduard_MunteanuTJ-: hm, does that handle configuration as well? At least until the point where it can hand the keys to a config management system.19:44
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TJ-Eduard_Munteanu: Yes, you can run custom commands, see e.g. https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-advanced.html19:46
eZtaRHey guys19:46
Benkinoobybye Eduard_Munteanu good luck!"19:49
eZtaRI have an external drive (~2 TB) filled with goodies, which i want to convert to ext4 from ntfs. Problem is that I can't just format it without losing all my data, and I don't have a spare linux machine laying around for the copy. Any pointers?19:49
miss_lolfunnydo you use flash? Btw, shouldn't youtube support html5 videos?19:51
FireBeardhello19:51
miss_lolfunnyHELLO, LOL HI FireBeard!119:51
poltereZtaR: I would just keep it NTFS. Is there a particular reason for formatting it ext4?19:51
compdoceZtaR, might be worth getting a 2nd drive19:51
Eduard_MunteanueZtaR: what goodies? If they're movies or porn you can download them again later. :)19:52
eZtaRpolter -> Yeah, ntfs-3g uses about 50% cpu on my rpi19:52
FireBeardhey, I have 2 12.04 installs, and they both refuse to display a 24 hour clock19:52
poltereZtaR: fair enough ;)19:52
Eduard_MunteanuIf it's compressible then you might be able to transfer it to a smaller drive.19:52
TJ-eZtaR: shrink the NTFS partition to remove all free space, then create a new partition and make an LVM physical volume. Add that PV to a Volume Group, then create a Logical Volume and format it ext4. Copy all (or some) of the NTFS into the ext4 the, if necessary, again shrink the NTFS, create a new partition to hold the the newly released space, make that partition a PV, add that PV to the VG, and then extend the LV to use the new PV... etc19:52
eZtaRTJ- -> Thanks man, hadn't thought about that :)19:52
TJ-eZtaR: s/Copy/Move/ of course... so you release space on the NTFS as you move the files to the ext419:53
Eduard_MunteanuNot sure if that's been automated, it would suck to do manually if you have little free space.19:53
TJ-eZtaR: If you've got a spare USB flash device you could use it to shuttle more data out of the NTFS in one pass19:54
eZtaREduard_Munteanu: From my recent google history it hasn't been automated yet, but i see a lot of potential users for such an app ;)19:54
FireBeardjaneks991: wow, lots of you !19:55
Eduard_MunteanueZtaR: the easiest way is to get a backup drive, it's convenient for multiple purposes.19:55
javatexanhey all19:55
eZtaRTJ-: Yeah, I might just have to install ubuntu on my desktop pc and try to move some data around19:55
eZtaRThanks guys, my mind's been fried over this, might be time for bed xD19:55
MsSayianwhere does the configuration settings for the network manager get stored. I.e if i configure a network through the gui, where do these settings get stored.19:56
TJ-eZtaR: Or use a live ISO image19:56
eZtaRTJ-: True :)19:56
javatexanhaving trouble with mac laptop overheating with fans pegged at 6200rpm (seems to be ceiling).  Is there a way to force processor not to use turbo mode?  I assume that would be hottest thing other than say the video card...right?19:56
Eduard_Munteanujavatexan: if it's a BIOS option19:57
TJ-MsSayian: /etc/NetworkManager/ for system settings19:57
Eduard_Munteanujavatexan: I'm not sure if cpufreq can control that19:58
Eduard_MunteanuIt might work to scale down the frequency.19:58
MsSayianThanks TJ19:58
eZtaRWell I'm off, thanks again guys :)19:58
zykotick9TJ-: i'd "think" most, important data for N-M is actually stored in gconf database, and not in any files on the system...20:00
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MsSayianHow would i bring the eth0 if i used the gui to enable it. I am trying to enable promiscious mode but ifdown doesnt work.20:01
TJ-zykotick9: No, system connections are in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/20:02
zykotick9TJ-: humm, good to know then.  thanks.20:02
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TJ-wilee-nilee: Finally figured it out... "/usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor" - killed that process, everything now good20:06
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wilee-nileeTJ-, Cool, good job.20:14
deepbluehttp://dpaste.com/1393237/ , i wanna delete the line :Windows NT/2000/XP (loader) on /dev/sda120:14
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wilee-nileedeepblue, If it is just extra you can delete it from the partition itself, by just mounting it in ubuntu.20:15
wilee-nileedeepblue, I would not bother with blocking it in grub.20:16
LordAioriaone question .. i was following this guide http://www.serverubuntu.it/SFTP-chroot to chroot SFTP users with OpenSSH ... and now i have one user created jailed that works perfect in SFTP (it's jailed) But now i want that the same user allows ssh jailed too..... at creation i have used this : usermod -s /bin/bash myuser instead of /bin/false but when i have tried to enter ssh with this user .... i see this message: This service allows sftp connections only20:18
chiefkit's 2013 and people still use linux? LOL20:19
chiefkdead OS general i guess20:19
deepbluewilee-nilee :it's alredy mounted20:21
delinquentmeget a file + object count within a dir?20:22
charliehello20:24
charlie?20:24
kyzehey, how can i get my ubuntu server to execute a command at startup ?20:27
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sas12kyze, strange. u have a ready to go server or ideas of it and say that question. world is strange20:28
nearmisswhy is it I can only see my own owned processes when doing ps aux? (its screwing with some monitoring I'm trying to setup)20:29
nmprois there a limit on how big an iso that can be burned to usb stick using usb-creator-gtk ?20:29
sas12nmpro, try to create multiboot usb manually20:30
sas12nmpro, it gives u way to add unlimited cd images and boot any20:30
nmprosas12? what do you mean?20:31
nearmissI don't get this behaviour on non-ubuntu systems20:31
sas12nearmiss, try htop20:31
nmproI am trying to add a win7 iso image to my usb stick drive, so I can install and run in parallel to ubuntu20:31
sas12nmpro, u can. make on your usb stick empty partition with 2mb free in start of partition. install grub2.20:33
anonymous_Hi guys i want to thank all of u for helping me out almost every time i had a question :)  the ubuntu community is damn great :)20:33
sas12anonymous_, i think so20:33
nearmisssas12: why is the behaviour different on ubuntu though? I have stuff depending on being able to ps aux and grep for a process20:34
sas12nearmiss, i dont know. im on debian testing flavor20:34
delinquentmeAre there screaming issues in ubuntu with naming folders with spaces in them?20:34
nearmisssas12: yeah, thats what I use elsewhere....should have here too I guess!20:34
delinquentmeclearly its ideal to NOT have this ... but how much of an issue is it?20:34
kristalIs linux-image-lowlatency better than generic linux?20:35
sas12delinquentme, perhabs no. anytime you use paths space mark as a \20:35
sas12delinquentme, no /20:35
bekkskristal: If you have to ask that - no.20:35
delinquentmesas12,  it looks like red\ box20:35
sas12kristal, compare by yourself. good experience20:35
kristalI'm jsut wondering if it'll help with input lag and audio latency for editing.20:36
sas12delinquentme, looks like ~$ cd PlayOnLinux\'s\ virtual\ drives20:36
kristalI think it's lower performance but more responsive20:36
delinquentmeyeah :D20:36
bekkskristal: It doesnt lower performance.20:36
kristalbekks: Whooo Gonna try it.20:37
sas12still ask: does anyone can help me buy humblebundle? i gift natural selection 2 in Steam20:38
dNSTARHello guys. I'm having some trouble with my mouse. I have updated all software updates, but it still work. When I plug my Razer Taipan into the computer I can't left nor right click, if I unplug it and stick it into another usb It works for like 10 seconds. Any solutions?20:39
nearmisshmm seems my problem may be unique to grsec kernels, which are used by my providor.  fun fun.20:41
CupSQueHi....i'm unable to locate how to allow cupds restart to any user....can anybody help me, plz?20:41
Eren97hi20:41
Eren97can i ask a question about virtual amchines in combination with linux?20:41
sas12ok. contact me with spamer.metropoliten dog yandex dot ru about helping to buy humblebundle. i go sleep20:42
sas12bye20:42
Eren97can anybody help me?20:42
* Guest83774 hey20:43
teknix_Hi20:43
Pici!ask20:43
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:43
teknix_Could anyone tell me how I can expand an windows ISO to a USB in linux or how to run windows in a virtual maching through linux?20:44
Eren97ah sry20:44
Eren97My hardware should be capable of running 64 bit(had 64 bit win7 be4)20:44
teknix_I tried like unetbootin and another prog, but they failed20:45
Eren97now I wanna run ubuntu 64 bit in a VM but it tells me i can't20:45
kyzeim obviously too dumb to autostart a single bash command :/20:45
teknix_Yumi is awesome but it only works in windows I think.20:46
teknix_Is anyone there?20:46
Eren97yea20:46
_namei cant boot ubuntu from my hdd, can anyone help me?20:47
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odiumI would like to install a package from a repo with only raring i386 binaries, while my system is saucy amd64, is this possible?20:49
CupSQuehow can i allow any user to /etc/init.d/cupsd restart =???20:50
teknix_Yep the USB creators don't work at all20:50
teknix_Atleast not for windows ISO20:51
teknix_Does anyone know of one that will expand a windows ISO through linux to make a bootable USB?20:51
mantys89Try UnetBootin20:52
teknix_I just tried it, it just gave me a default option20:52
ciaocioa20:52
teknix_and didn't go anywhere20:52
ciao!list20:53
ubottuciao: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».20:53
_namei cant boot ubuntu from my hdd, can anyone help me?20:53
teknix_It looks like it put everything of the USB, but it doesn't boot into windows install20:54
teknix_nah, it is only 1.3mb on it, rofl, win7 is 3kmb20:55
Eren97lol20:56
teknix_The .ISO is 3.3 GB20:56
teknix_3kmb i meant 3000 mb20:56
teknix_MB20:56
teknix_sry20:56
BluesKaj_name, do you get a grub menu ?20:57
teknix_What about Xen? What do you guys think about that?20:58
_nameBlueskaj: yes, i think it might be because i ugraded my graphics driver but not sure since i just installed it20:58
_nameBlueskaj: juxt installed ubuntu that is20:58
teknix_Aha, vbox is for linux ^.^20:59
bekksteknix_: It is available for linux, windows, mac OSX, freebsd, solaris.20:59
BluesKaj_name, which graphics card and driver ?20:59
teknix_nice, so I can put my win 7 iso in a vbox and use yuni right?21:00
teknix_Yumi*21:00
bekksteknix_: You dont need yumi. All you need is the ISO.21:01
_nameBlueskaj: card is nvidia quadro fx 770m, i think i ugraded to nvidia-319 driver or something21:01
teknix_I mean to make a multi-boot21:01
teknix_stick21:01
bekksteknix_: You dont need an usb stick, all you need is the .ISO when using vbox.21:01
teknix_lol, I am trying to make a USB stick, that's my main mission21:02
teknix_to expand a windows ISO on USB through linux21:02
BluesKaj_name, ok describe what happens when you "can't boot ",. What appears on your screen , if anything ?21:02
Eren97did u setup the USB to be bootable of21:03
Eren97*get booted of21:03
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_nameBlueskaj: after grub i only get a black screen with like a flickering white _ at the top left21:04
TJ-_name: When you say 'grub' - do you actually see the GRUB menu? If not, have you helpd down Shift key whilst the system boots in order to get the grub menu, and then tried booting the recovery option?21:05
_nameTJ-: yes i see the actual grub menu21:06
_nameTJ-: tried the recovery but it didnt work21:06
BluesKaj_name, ok at grub , choose the recovery kernel , and once the dialog comes up choose "repair broken packages" or something similar21:06
TJ-_name: That's good. When you tried recovery did you see the kernel messages scrolling up the screen before it failed?21:06
_nameBlueskaj: hmm didnt try that yet21:06
ice9when Ubuntu will use Wayland instead of X?21:07
anvoTestdrive downloads the latest beta for Saucy with PAE kernel, which is not supported by my CPU... How do I proceed to testing?21:07
_nameTJ- yea saw some stuff, looked normal to me21:07
TJ-ice9: Ubuntu has its own display server, Mir, which is the default from 13.10 unless proprietary graphics drivers are selected, when it uses X21:07
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BluesKajice9, it won't , but Kubuntu is looking to use Wayland21:08
TJ-_name: OK, then it should reach the recovery menu with options such as "root shell" - is that what you saw?21:08
ice9TJ-, BluesKaj so Kubuntu will be different from Ubuntu? each will use different display server?21:08
_nameTJ-: yep21:08
BluesKajice9, yes21:08
MonkeyDustin my experience, ubuntu with kde is already more responsive than ubuntu with gnome21:09
TJ-ice9: http://blogs.kde.org/2013/06/26/kubuntu-wont-be-switching-mir-or-xmir21:09
BluesKajok ,too many cooks , ..later21:09
ice9how can I know if Mir can work on my graphics card or not?21:10
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teknix_How can I uninstall?21:11
TJ-_name: OK, if you can get the root shell you can check the system logs in /var/log/  - I'd be looking at kern.log, syslog, and if there is one, Xorg.0.log for clues. Look at the entries matching the time of the *failed* boot since they will also contain the current session too, of course21:11
TJ-ice9: Try it21:12
teknix_I installed this, "Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ("Precise Pangolin")  i386 |  AMD64" from here:  https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads , but can't get it to run21:12
hugokHey I just setup software raid in the ubuntu 12.04 alternate, do I need to format the /dev/md0 (raid drive) as ext4 and/or creat a filesystem?21:13
bekkshugok: Yes, both. First create a filesystem, then format it.21:13
_nameTJ-: should i get on my liveusb and put those on pastebin?21:13
bekkshugok: Yes, both. First create a partition for a filesystem, then format it.21:14
hugokbekks, is there a terminal command for that?21:14
hugokthe make fileystem?21:14
bekkshugok: mkfs21:14
hugokbekks, thanks21:14
TJ-_name: It'd be better to be selective by looking for warnings and errors and things that just don't seem right, compared to earlier logs, and selectively investigate any that you find.21:15
hugokbekks, is 'make new partition table' under gparted the same thing?21:16
bekkshugok: No. That creates a new partition table, not a filesystem.21:16
hugokbekks, ok21:16
Eren97guys21:17
hugokbekks, how do I know how many blocks in my drive?21:17
bekkshugok: Its displayed who big drive is, in gparted.21:17
Eren97what do i get from encrypting the ubuntu install21:17
_nameTJ-: looks like it might be in Xorg.0.log21:17
ice9Why Xmir is better than X?21:17
hugokbekks, 'total secors'?21:17
jhutchinshugok: fdisk -l also.21:17
bekkshugok: The drive size is even displayed in MB, and you can enter MB when creating new filesystems in gparted,21:18
xanux_any programmers could explain <windows.h> for linux ?21:18
Eren97ah, k-line, g-line all same..?21:19
Eren97failchat21:19
Eren97what do i get from encrypting the ubuntu install21:19
bekksEren97: A good feeling. Chocolate may cause the same.21:19
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Eren97so no sense at all?21:19
AVA0528:)21:19
bekksEren97: Depends on wether you want encryption or not.21:20
Eren97but what do i get from encrypting it21:20
Eren97I ain't goin to do suspicious things or something so who theh ell is going to try to read my ubuntu install21:20
compdocEren97, encription caused me problems when trying to connect remotely with VNC21:20
Eren97oh ok21:21
Eren97no problemo nonono problemo21:21
ice9I'm unable to install Xmir on Ubuntu 13.04:  E: Unable to locate package mir-demos21:21
ice9E: Unable to locate package unity-system-compositor21:21
tylertwoIs it possible to assign custom hotkeys from terminal? I know how to do this from Gnome-Control-Center.21:22
Eren97how can i display ue(german letter) in linux?21:22
teknix_Which sort of harddrive should I create for the best emulation experience of win7 in my vbox?21:23
hugokhey bekks, it finished making filesystem. Do I make partition table with gparted now?21:23
bekksteknix_: vbox does not emulate, it virtualizes. Just use the defaults or refer to the vbox manual for a detailed explanation of almost every option choosable.21:23
lolfunnygaihi, is there any particular reason why some packages in ubuntus respitory is ceveral years old (when there are new versions out there since a long time ago)?21:23
Eren97how can i display ue(german letter) in linux?21:24
lolfunnygaiEren97: you'll have to set up your charset. Google it :)21:24
m6121Greetings.  I have just connected my external terabyte drive and am wondering what is the best or favorite ripping program you all use for Ubuntu?  There are lots, and lots of opinions.  Just curious.21:24
m6121Gonna use FLAC I think, btw.21:25
malkaunshow do i get facebook to work using empathy on 13.04?21:25
tylertwololfunnygai: maybe nobody's gotten around to updating it?21:25
teknix_bekks ty21:25
Eren97lolfunnygai still in the setup xD21:25
k1llolfunnygai: maybe just no one  cared, no one did the work, there are depencies not met, ... there could be a lot of reasons. most time ubuntu doesnt get new versions (besides security and bug fixes) after release21:26
lolfunnygaiEren97: that's where you set it up, in the setup. There will be an option for your keyboard language etc21:26
lolfunnygaik1l: so the way to go, is to download the updates yourself?21:26
lolfunnygaiI thought apt-get is the way you SHOULd install them :P21:26
k1llolfunnygai: the question is: do you neeed the update?21:27
Eren97lolfunnygai yea after the location selection xD21:27
k1llolfunnygai: and dont tell me: "its newer"21:27
tylertwololfunnygai: apt-get makes things easy for you. it's fine to dowlnoad things without it though (assuming you take safety precautions)21:28
m6121Greetings.  I have just connected my external terabyte drive and am wondering what is the best or favorite ripping program you all use for Ubuntu?  There are lots, and lots of opinions.  Just curious.21:28
lolfunnygaik1l: well, in this case, it's from 2008, and there's a 2013 release for that package. I'm pretty sure it's better in many aspects :P21:28
spikebikeAnyone have an idea for debugging a server that boots and gets on the net, but the console stays locked in the "Ubuntu 13.04" splash screen with the ". . . ." animation.21:28
mantys891For German keyboard layout just type in terminal: setxkbmap de :P21:28
k1llolfunnygai: you are sure?21:28
k1llolfunnygai: which package is it?21:28
lolfunnygaikismet21:29
qin_lotuspsychje: http://travelingfrontiers.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/how-to-add-colors-to-linux-command-line-output/21:29
k1llolfunnygai: so we are talking baout backtrack and kali?21:29
m6121I am thinking about trying Asunder.  Anyone have any opinion?21:29
lolfunnygaik1l: ubuntu21:30
_nameTJ-: so the problem seems to be that the video drivers cant be loaded21:31
ice9how to install Mir on Ubuntu 13.0421:32
adios8ndoes anyone know what daemon/service to restart when desktop auto-mounting quits functioning (for removable drives)21:32
k1llolfunnygai: version in next release will be: 2013.03.R1b-1. so i dont see any problems. when you really need to work in that topic (and not for illegal intentions) you sure will have the time to dig into that topic.21:32
OerHekslolfunnygai, kismet is community supported i guess, they choose to work with their ppa http://www.kismetwireless.net/download.shtml21:32
deepblue────────────────────────┤ Configuring lightdm ├──────────────────────────┐21:34
deepblue │                                                                           │21:34
deepblue │ A display manager is a program that provides graphical login              │21:34
deepblue │ capabilities for the X Window System.                                     │21:34
deepblue │                                                                           │21:34
FloodBot1deepblue: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:34
kostkonice9, http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/21:34
ice9kostkon, didn't work, package are not in the current repo21:34
Eren97what is +z again?21:34
lolfunnygaiI don't really have a problem with kismet, I just downloaded it to see what it was. But it striked me that it was from 2008, and made me think that perhaps a lot of ubuntus packages haven't been updated for years21:34
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kostkonice9, try in 13.10.21:35
arnezt/server irc.freenode.net:666721:36
SamehDo anyone have idea how to operate nvidia driver on Ubuntu? It's not loaded and conflicts with unity and compiz21:37
k1lSameh: install "nvidia-current" from repos. thats it21:38
lolfunnygaiis it bad to add a lot of repositories?21:39
SamehK1l. I did that but didn't help and have me glx missing display 0:0 .. I don't know that why? Some applications depending on display stopped working21:39
k1llolfunnygai: alot of PPAs brings alot of risk that things break21:40
lolfunnygaik1l: how come?21:40
k1lSameh: that sounds like you installed some driver from another origin or have PPAs enabled which cause trouble now21:40
lolfunnygaiI suppose your repository is where you get your software automatically updated?21:40
k1llolfunnygai: because of depencies21:41
lolfunnygaiah21:41
kostkonlolfunnygai, if you add official project ppas that at most provide one or two packages then it should be fine21:41
kostkonlolfunnygai, e.g. wine ppa, etc21:41
lolfunnygaibut adding, say, gentoos repository would most certainly mess things up?21:41
k1llolfunnygai: the standard ubuntu repos are tested against each other. but if you add a PPA with a newer version the maintainer has to make sure it doesnt interfer with the original repos21:41
kostkonlolfunnygai, totally21:41
k1llolfunnygai: oh no. dont add other distros repos21:42
teknix_fun fun21:42
ice9is there a download manager accelerator for Ubuntu?21:42
mantys89flareget21:42
wilee-nileeice9, there is apt-fast21:42
Territoriojovenwhat happened here? http://pastebin.com/M9MNXBEU21:43
wilee-nileeice9, There is a ppa for it.21:43
lolfunnygaibut in ubuntus case, the repository stays the same for 6 months, and then constitutes a mega-update?21:43
malkaunshow do i get facebook to work using empathy on 13.04?21:43
k1llolfunnygai: no21:43
lolfunnygaimalkauns: I'd try to update empathy to the latest version using their official ppa.. that might or might not be relevant21:44
k1lTerritoriojoven: wubi :(21:44
Territoriojovenyes21:44
Territoriojoveni could install ubuntu and xubuntu before21:44
Territoriojovenwhy is lubuntu not working now21:44
ice9wilee-nilee, i mean for general http downloads21:44
wilee-nileeTerritoriojoven, why are you using wubi, it is just for trying out the OS?21:44
Territoriojoveni waited like 3 hours21:44
Territoriojovenwell i don't have usb or cd/dvd21:45
mantys89ice9 ->> flareget, uget, prozilla21:45
wilee-nileeice9, thats what's it's for.21:45
teknix_Does anyone use Kali?21:46
macgugesjoin #lfs-support21:46
wilee-nilee!kali | teknix_21:46
ubottuteknix_: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)21:46
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k1lteknix_: no kali support in here (its not even based on ubuntu)21:46
teknix_its debian right21:46
k1lsee the mentioned kali support21:47
teknix_I'd just get in trouble with it t.t21:47
_namehow do i connect to wifi from the root terminal in recovery mode?21:47
_namethe network option doesnt seem to work and neither does iwconfig21:48
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lolfunnygaialright, so let's say that I do this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa ....     now, what do ubuntu-wine/ppa point to? Wine's website? If so, how does it map "ubuntu-wine/ppa" to http://winehq.org/somethingosmething21:50
OerHekslolfunnygai, no, to the PPA @ launchpad21:50
kostkonlolfunnygai, it maps it to the launchpad ppa not the wine website21:50
k1l!ppa | lolfunnygai21:50
ubottulolfunnygai: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge21:50
lolfunnygaiah.. right. Gotta check out what that launchpad is. Seems to be some kind of NAV21:51
kostkonlolfunnygai, NAV?21:51
lolfunnygaiI meant, communication central for package distribution something something.21:51
iShotzI just installed AMD drivers and when i boot to ubuntu, my resolution is fixed at 1280x1024, after i login all i get is my desktop21:52
OerHekslaunchpad is a hidden treasure, complete building service and publishing21:52
kostkonlolfunnygai, software project hosting website21:52
wilee-nileeiShotz, really, and you were expecting?21:53
iShotzWilee-nilee: working drivers...?21:53
wilee-nileeiShotz, How can we tell what you see your desktop means that, your desktop seems to be missing something eh.21:54
wilee-nilee!details | iShotz21:54
ubottuiShotz: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:54
OerHeksiShotz, wilee-nilee wants to know what resolution you expected to see21:55
wilee-nileeor what is missing..etc21:55
iShotzUnity is gone and all i can do is drag a box and thats it, before i installed the drivers my reso was 1920x1080, my gpu is Radeon 300021:56
ice9will the amd64 desktop iso work on Macbook?21:56
iShotzI can bring up terminal with ctrl alt t21:56
bekksice9: use the mac amd64 iso.21:56
wilee-nileeiShotz, Ah, are these amd drivers from them or the ubuntu repos?21:56
ice9bekks, sorry I mean for 13.10 beta21:56
Sheilahow i can delete all sub folder and files in main folder ?21:57
bekksice9: The above applies again.21:57
Sheilaand leaving the main folder empty21:57
jribSheila: select the mall, right click, delete21:57
ice9bekks, there is no mac iso, it's only the amd64 and the i38621:57
bekksSheila: When doing so, your system renders unusable and totally broken.21:57
iShotzFirst time i tried they were from AMD, i re installed the os since i had the same problem21:57
iShotzThis time, i followed this wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide21:57
OerHeksSheila, hit ctrl+h to see if there are hidden files to select too21:58
OerHeksin nautilus filemanager that is21:58
bekksice9: I can see it there: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/21:59
chamunksIf i want to check any incoming traffic on a port and dump it to a log file what would I need for this?21:59
wilee-nileeiShotz, I'm not your best help with drivers, mainly I was trying to get you to post enough details for those that are.21:59
iShotzOh ok, thanks anyhow22:00
MoPacHello -- I'm looking for help understanding and setting PYTHONPATH environment variables. I don't really get which file I need to put lines in or what the "export" command does (Ubuntu 13.04, Python versions 2.7 and 3)22:00
MoPacchamunks: if you're looking for raw traffic, Wireshark probably22:00
chamunksMoPac, I have to do this via CMD line22:00
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chamunksI'm just trying to figure out what traffic that I need to pass to servers behind my proxy server for some customers.22:01
jribMoPac: why do you even want to mess with PYTHONPATH at all?22:01
MoPacchamunks: tcpdump maybe?22:01
chamunksI'll do some googling thanks MoPac22:01
SheilaMoPac : can you help me22:02
MoPacjrib: I had a script install a suite of programs, and it suggested that I export a pythonpath to a folder under 2.7 before running them. I think my failure to do this might be a reason why I can't seem to call the scripts from bash22:02
jribMoPac: what script?  What suite of programs?22:03
MoPacjrib: The script is at http://www.sbrac.org/files/build-gnuradio22:03
MoPacjrib: search the code for the words "you should probably set"22:03
MoPacSheila: I don't know if I can help you; what is your question?22:04
jribMoPac: gnuradio seems to be in the repositories; why not use the packages in the repositories/22:04
Sheilahow i can delete all sub folder and files in main folder ?22:04
Sheilaand leaving the main folder empty with same name22:04
jribSheila: select them all, right click, delete22:04
Sheilai use CLI22:04
MoPacjrib: The script-built and git-hosted versions are more up-to-date and also easier to mess with22:05
jribSheila: why do you want to do this?22:05
jribSheila: what are you deleting exactly?22:05
Sheilaall sub folder and files located in folder22:05
MoPacjrib: Sheila: from within a folder, would " rmdir -r * " work for that?22:05
jribMoPac: apparently not :P  Anyway, you can put PYTHONPATH in ~/.pam_environment.  Or if you need some bashish things, use ~/.profile22:06
jribMoPac: no22:06
iShotzOk i managed to uninstall the old drivers a bit but unity and the ui is gone still22:08
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wilee-nileeiShotz, have you rebooted?22:11
iShotzA few times yes22:12
iShotzIm trying to remove the packages i installed by this wiki22:12
wilee-nileesince this last adjustment?22:12
halkAnyone here knows about PCI modems? I have a problem with mine since I upgraded from 12.04 to 13.04. It does not properly communicate (using minicom I get garbage for commands such as ATI)22:12
wilee-nileeiShotz, If you are using PPA's you would want to use ppa purge22:12
iShotz Ppa?22:13
iShotzIm apt-get purging these22:13
wilee-nileeiShotz, I noticed that link you posted had references to PPA's is all. really with this you have to give exact info for real help here.22:13
iShotzIll upload a video to show my issue fully22:14
wilee-nileeiShotz, Can you document what you have done so far?22:14
iShotzWell i installed everything from that wiki22:15
iShotzThen i removed a few packages22:15
iShotzRebooted22:15
iShotzRemoved a few more22:15
iShotzAbout to reboot again22:15
wilee-nileeiShotz, You have to understand how vague that sounds to us is all.22:15
iShotzI know22:15
wilee-nilee;)22:16
lolfunnygai"apt-get update" doesn't seem to update my software?22:16
iShotzSaid packages are the ones listed in that wiki22:16
iShotzIts not meant to funny22:16
wilee-nileelolfunnygai, are you running sudo apt-get upgrade22:16
lolfunnygaiwilee-nilee: no, but I will now :)22:17
lolfunnygaiI suppose22:17
wilee-nileewhy not eh22:17
lolfunnygaiso, when there's a new ubuntu version out, does "apt-get upgrade" install that too?22:17
jriblolfunnygai: no22:17
wilee-nileeiShotz, That wiki had many options, they do not all go together is all, most here will not wade through all of it.22:18
iShotzScrew this, im re installing again22:18
Dr_Willislolfunnygai:  upgrade - ONLY upgrades to the latest packages in the current 'release'22:18
jribSheila: if you don't answer questions, we can't help you22:18
wilee-nileeiShotz, when you do a frsh install does it work fine?22:18
lolfunnygaiso when I want the newest ubuntu, I'll have to get the .iso image and upgrade my system from there?22:18
iShotzYeah fresh install have no issues22:18
Dr_Willislolfunnygai:  do-release-upgrade    can go to the next released version22:18
halklolfunnygai: that's do-release-upgrade to go to a new full version22:18
Dr_Willislolfunnygai:  so thats a no also. ;)22:19
iShotzIts only after i installed these drivers22:19
wilee-nileeiShotz, I would stick with that then.22:19
iShotzBut i need these drivers for my games22:19
kostkonlolfunnygai, just use the updater22:19
k1l!upgrade | lolfunnygai22:19
ubottulolfunnygai: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade22:19
lolfunnygailol, k22:19
iShotzAka steam22:19
lolfunnygaithnk22:19
wilee-nileeiShotz, You want the drivers from the ubuntu repos is all, for best use. I would talk with the channel before you mess with the drivers in lieu of doing changes is all for steam.22:20
iShotzAlso, good news netflix users22:20
iShotzOk wil22:20
iShotzI talked to their live chat and i convinced them to move to HTML 522:21
kostkoniShotz, old newzz22:21
iShotzSrsly22:21
Dr_Willisill belive it when i see it.22:21
iShotzAppantly im down for beta testing22:21
wilee-nilee!cookie | iShotz for convincing netflix22:21
ubottuiShotz for convincing netflix: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!22:21
wilee-nilee;)22:22
ice9how to create bootable Ubuntu USB with GUID partition table to boot on Macbook?22:22
iShotzI nagged them about html5 a few months back22:22
halkAny idea why an internal modem would stop working in Ubuntu 13.04 vs 12.04?22:22
iShotzSo yey22:22
halkIt's a Search Results   MultiTech MT9234ZPX-UPCI22:22
iShotzNow all i need is native support on adobe and autodesk stuff22:22
kostkoniShotz, will neven happen22:23
kostkonnever*22:23
iShotzAlso, you dudes heard of SteamOS?22:23
kostkony22:23
lolfunnygaibut if I upgrade, will the repositories that I've added in my repository list file (something like "deb http://winehq.org RELEASENAME something"), change to the releasename to the name of my upgraded release?22:23
iShotzkostkon: i can dream22:23
kostkoniShotz, ubuntu 12.04 based22:23
iShotzI figured it'd be Ubuntu based22:24
k1llolfunnygai: yes, the updater does that. but the question is, if the repository got packages for that new release.22:25
lolfunnygaiah22:26
lolfunnygaiit seems that wine's PPA only had 1.4.1 (the newest is 1.7) for my release22:26
k1llolfunnygai: well, more accurate. it will disable the non origin repos to make sure the upgrade doesnt get in trouble because of faulty non origin packages22:26
kostkonlolfunnygai, the updater will update and then disable any 3rd party repos before proceeding22:26
lolfunnygaibut that's not really a concern, is it?22:26
k1llolfunnygai: dont get on the "the latest is the best" train22:27
kostkonlolfunnygai, oyu can enable them yourself afterwards22:27
lolfunnygaik1l: hmm... really?22:27
k1lthats why i asked: do you really need the latest version.22:27
lolfunnygainah, but in my experience they're often nicer from a user experience perspective, and usability perspective22:27
k1land from the "it will brake my installation" perspective?22:28
k1l*break22:28
halkk1l: when you jump from an LTS to another, you break EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE!22:29
halkI've done that, once...22:29
kostkonhalk, ??22:29
halkAt least, when you upgrade every 6 months / 1 year, you don't have to repair everything all at once.22:29
k1lhalk: worked for me several times. just yesterday22:29
halkkostkon: when you run many services, they tend to break (incompatible configuration files)22:30
lolfunnygaihmm, I see. And this is due to how the OS eco system works?22:30
kostkonhalk, that's another story i guess22:30
lolfunnygaieh, open source eco system22:30
lolfunnygaiand in this case, ubuntu in particular22:30
kostkonlolfunnygai, what exactly?22:31
lolfunnygaikostkon: that things break22:31
kostkonhalk, my lts -> lts upgrades were successful22:31
lolfunnygaiif you compare it to windows, everybody gets the same updates from microsoft.22:31
kostkonlolfunnygai, not it's not normal. upgrades, in any OS, can fail sometimes22:31
kostkonlolfunnygai, what do you mean22:32
qwebirc29536if you don't use many PPAs related to low-level components of your OS, then they should be mostly reliable with minor issues (upgrading)22:32
k1leven upgrades on windows machines can break. that is not the point. in general lts to lts upgrade work22:32
SolarAquarionhow do I properly build packages for ubuntu?22:32
halkkostkon: the upgrade itself works, the services don't22:32
kostkonlolfunnygai, in ubuntu everyone gets the same updates from canonical22:32
halkkostkon: for example, right now my fax service is down because the OS doesn't talk to the modem PCI card...22:32
lolfunnygaikostkon: I mean that the compability of software on linux systems are much more complex than that on windows22:33
SolarAquarioni mean packaging sofware22:33
gordonjcphalk: good22:33
gordonjcphalk: fax machines need to die22:33
k1lhalk: that could be because of the new drivers in new kernels.22:33
gordonjcp!packaging | SolarAquarion22:33
ubottuSolarAquarion: The packaging guide is at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/  - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring22:33
lolfunnygaihalk: yes, but canonical get their "system critical" packages from a lot of places22:34
gordonjcplolfunnygai: no, all the Ubuntu packages come from the Ubuntu servers22:34
lolfunnygaiin windows, a program might just be dependent on what service pack you've installed. In linux, it depends on what version of a lot of dependencies that you've got22:34
halkgordonjcp: lolfunnygai is correct, all the free software comes from all over the place22:34
lolfunnygaigordonjcp: the ubuntu servers gets some of it from github22:34
halkk1l: yes, I am thinking that the "Exar Corp. XR17C/D152 Dual PCI UART (rev 02) (prog-if 02 [16550])" has changed and was hoping someone here would know something about it22:35
lolfunnygaihalk: which makes it all more complex. Upgrading one package might break package A but fix package B (which in turn might mean compability issues for C)22:36
gordonjcphalk: right, but the packages all come from *one* place22:36
gordonjcplolfunnygai: and?22:36
Pici*packages*22:36
k1lhalk: besides ranting and flaming you should actually give a proper issue explanation with details. so people can help22:36
gordonjcplolfunnygai: the *packages* are all from one source22:36
halkgordonjcp: yeah, although you could be using PPA packages and even Debian packages...22:36
gordonjcphalk: right, but it's not advisable to use Debian packages22:37
halk(as in packages that were compiled for Debian opposed to Ubuntu itself)22:37
lolfunnygaimy point was just that, that's the reason why you can't always have the lastest version of everything that easy.22:37
gordonjcplolfunnygai: yes22:37
gordonjcplolfunnygai: it does take time to package stuff up22:37
gordonjcplolfunnygai: you could use Arch Linux, where everything is so new that half the time it doesn't work properly ;-)22:37
halklolfunnygai: I am aware of those problems... I wrote wpkg so I could manage packages under MS-Windows... http://windowspackager.org/22:38
zykotick9halk: fyi, mixing packages from different distros is a TERRIBLE idea.22:38
gordonjcphalk: oh, like using dpkg but for Windows?22:39
Dr_Williseven mixing from differnt releases - is a nasty idea22:39
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halkgordonjcp: some companies have no idea Linux exists...22:39
gordonjcphalk: <shrug>22:39
OerHeksBest advise is to use backports or even more kinky proposed ubuntu-repo22:39
lolfunnygaiit's just quite interesting how a huge amount of different "unrelated modular programmers" can combine their work like that.22:39
gordonjcphalk: I must admit, I don't really know how packages work in Windows, or how to install stuff22:40
lolfunnygaibut that's another discussion22:40
matti-007!op22:43
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!22:43
kostkon??22:43
Achilles`Hi all,22:49
kamiyuhhullo22:49
Achilles`Any Ptrace gurus around?22:49
lolfunnygaiwhat do you guys think about flash?22:54
lolfunnygaineeded? (I know it's a "dumb" question)22:54
lolfunnygaibut perhaps you have some nice philosophy behind your choise22:55
HodappI think Flash needs to die in a fire.22:55
wilee-nilee!ot22:55
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:55
StarFlowerwhen I look at the files in my folders there is always text overlaying the bottom file, is there a way to turn that off22:55
lolfunnygaion an ubuntu system that is, is it useful? My question is really: how can you watch youtube on ubuntu without it? do you need it?22:56
Achilles`No one familiar with Ptrace around then?22:56
Hodapplolfunnygai: You can watch youtube videos with youtube-dl or various other programs without needing Flash. You can watch them in the browser (for the most part) with HTML5 - though the ads are not HTML5, and you'll need Chrome/Chromium to get H264 video support for HTML5.22:56
TerritoriojovenWHY is the wubi for lubuntu taking 2 hours after download!?22:57
Hodapplolfunnygai: I'm on Arch, not Ubuntu, but I've not installed Flash on this box, and I've encountered very few sites that insist on Flash for their video.22:57
yeatsAchilles`: you'll probably get farther by asking your actual question22:57
lolfunnygaibut ubuntu seems to require it.22:58
Achilles`ah makes sense…. well, here's my problem.22:58
lolfunnygaibut I've ff 24.0, it should support html522:58
StarFlowerDoes anyone know if theres a way to turn off the text that covers the bottom files in the file manager22:58
Hodapplolfunnygai: It's not whether it supports HTML5 or not, it's that it doesn't do all the codecs required.22:58
Hodapplolfunnygai: go to youtube.com/html5 (I think) and it will show you.22:58
Hodapplolfunnygai: there might be ways to hack Firefox into doing H264, but I've never tried; Chrome can do it just fine.22:59
Territoriojoven<Territoriojoven> WHY is the wubi for lubuntu taking 2 hours after download!?22:59
lolfunnygaiah, non-free codec22:59
lolfunnygaiis it specifically firefox, or just not my system that supports it?23:00
lolfunnygai(ubuntu of course)23:00
Achilles`I want to stop a forked child (PTRACE_TRACEME).. then do some set up in the parent process before I unblock the child (execev) to continue. How do I make the child continue ONLY after a certain point in my code, after I have finished all my set up… I don't want to Single Step or anything… I just want to collect some performance data on the forked child.23:00
Hodapplolfunnygai: It's Firefox + Linux.23:00
Achilles`Trouble is… I don't know how to make it continue after that certain point.23:00
utusanI'd rather have flash than M$ silverlight23:00
lolfunnygaisilverlight, ugh23:01
lolfunnygaiit's forced upon you, but not useful for you23:01
lolfunnygaisorry, ot though23:01
Hodapputusan: Flash certainly gets you further, than the approximately zero sites that use solely Silverlight.23:01
utusanHodapp: there are sites that force you to have silverlight23:02
Hodapputusan: They're very few.23:02
lolfunnygaiand they use silverlight not because it's useful, but because they're forced to when they use certain MS publishing tools23:02
Hodapputusan: The only one I'm aware of is Netflix.23:02
Hodappand even they relax that rule for some clients.23:02
Achilles`Anyone?23:02
jakeHi23:02
halkAchiles: signal STOP23:02
utusanHodapp: true very few but not zero as you claimed23:02
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halkAchiles: then later signal CONT23:03
Guest3171I just installed Xubuntu 13.0423:03
Nothing_MuchWho uses Silverlight anymore? MS is pulling the plug on it too from what I've heard.23:03
Ulfalizeri tried to install a 32-bit version of SDL on my amd64 install, and apt decided to remove a whole bunch of critical packages. looks like i'm currently without a window manager. any tips for getting it back? :P23:03
Hodapputusan: I said approximately zero. Compared to the number of sites using Flash, it is.23:03
Ulfalizerought to be a package for it...23:03
Nothing_MuchUlfalizer, the window manager?23:03
Nothing_Muchit should be compiz23:03
Hodappwhich is probably part of why MS is shitcanning it.23:03
Guest3171However, there's something labelled UDF Volume on the desktop, even though I didn't create any seperate partitions23:03
Ulfalizerok, let's see if i can get another terminal up...23:04
Nothing_Muchhang on Ulfalizer You're using Ubuntu right?23:04
Ulfalizeryup23:04
Achilles`@halk I tried CONT, somehow the parents get blocked I think till the child can finish… which is not what I had in mind.23:04
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Achilles`get/gets*23:04
Nothing_MuchAlright, it's compiz, if you used a different DE it would've been different23:04
lolfunnygaihmmm... I suppose my system is somewhat respects my privacy right now (it's a fresh install). But of what I've heard, google23:04
UlfalizerNothing_Much: sudo apt-get install compiz?23:04
Nothing_MuchUlfalizer, yes23:04
Ulfalizernot sure if that's what i'm currently missing, but the windows have no chrome at least23:04
Nothing_Muchit's that and try unity as well23:04
halkAchiles: there is no reason why the parent would hang at that time, these are just signals...23:05
Ulfalizerok, thanks23:05
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Nothing_Muchwhich version of Ubuntu btw?23:05
Achilles`@halk Thanks man… let me give it another try and see if it works.23:05
UlfalizerNothing_Much: 13.0223:05
Nothing_MuchUlfalizer, do 'sudo apt-get install unity' first23:06
Nothing_Muchthat should give you the proper dependencies for Ubuntu back23:06
Nothing_Muchat least for the window manager23:06
lolfunnygaiI don't know how much of a ubuntu question this is. Now, I suppose my system is somewhat respects my privacy right now (it's a fresh install). But of what I've heard, google's gmail app "hacked" the iOS sandbox and placed privacy intruding cookies in the safari browser. If I install chrome, will my overall system privacy be compromiced by them?23:06
Ulfalizerdid them in the opposite order. seems to have worked though. :)23:06
Ulfalizerthanks!23:06
Guest3171Pictures:23:06
Guest3171http://imgur.com/pQhbnHX,ncjGPv523:06
Nothing_Muchnot a problem Ulfalizer23:07
Guest3171So, if it's a swap partition, why is it showing up as a mountable partition?23:07
Ulfalizerwouldn't be surprised if something else is messed up with this system now though...23:07
Ulfalizer*reboot*23:08
Guest3171?23:08
Nothing_Muchis there a Debian channel for armel/armhf stuff?23:08
PiciNothing_Much: start in #debian and see what they say?23:09
Nothing_MuchAh okay23:09
utusantry in oftc23:09
zykotick9Nothing_Much: try on OFTC23:09
PiciNothing_Much: also try on oftc, I think thats where debian's official channels are23:09
zykotick9utusan: ;)23:09
Nothing_Muchoftc?23:09
utusandebian doesn't use freenode23:09
Nothing_MuchOhh23:09
Nothing_MuchThat's a shame23:09
Nothing_MuchWell23:09
Ulfalizerseems it removed e.g. gnome-terminal as well...23:09
Ulfalizerthose apt-get install <package>:i386 commands seem dangerous as hell23:10
Ulfalizeri had imagined it would just install a i386 version alongside the 64-bit one :/23:10
Nothing_MuchI was hoping to know why I couldn't find Unity (the interface) on Armhf or armel23:10
Guest3171And here's the output of dmesg | tail23:10
Guest3171http://imgur.com/LKPAszw23:10
XRS1whats the hdparm to remove write ptoection from a SATA drive?23:10
zykotick9Ulfalizer: not all packages are multiarch aware at this point, so yes, can be dangerous.23:10
Ulfalizerzykotick9: would it do that if it was a multiarch-aware package?23:11
zykotick9Ulfalizer: no.  but CHECK what is happening with apt-get BEFORE you proceed in future.23:11
Guest3171Hello?23:11
Ulfalizeryeah, should look into that. do a dry run thingie first...23:12
XRS1protection*23:12
zykotick9Ulfalizer: just default apt-get install foo will tell you want it's gonna do, before it does it...23:12
Ulfalizermight've seen the "deleting x packages" and thought "prolly needed to set things up for multiarch" :)23:13
Ulfalizerbit naive23:13
Ulfalizer*removing23:13
Ulfalizerah well, it was a fresh install at least, and i know what not to do in the future :P23:14
Guest3171So, any ideas?23:14
XRS1Guest3171,  have you tried running testdisk?23:16
Guest3171not yet23:16
XRS1that will try and repair the drive23:16
Ulfalizerwhile i'm here - what would you suggest for cross-compiling and testing 32-bit versions of an app on 64-bit ubuntu?23:19
Ulfalizerthat depends on non-multiarch-aware packages23:20
Ulfalizerone of the reasons i got a 64-bit install was to be able to test both easily, but maybe it's not that straightforward23:20
XRS1gcc and both the 32bit and 64bit libs23:21
Ulfalizerwhat would be a good way to get the 32-bit sdl libs alongside the 64-bit ones?23:21
Ulfalizerand possibly other non-multiarch-aware packages23:22
Ulfalizergoogle suggests chrooting. i'll look into that.23:23
Dr_Willis32bit test os - inside virtualbox perhaps?23:23
Dr_Willisto better simulate what a 32bit user would have23:23
UlfalizerDr_Willis: that'd work, but i'd rather not have to deal with cumbersome VMs unless necessary23:24
Ulfalizeryeah, that'd be an advantage23:24
XRS1well you cant test something without actually testing it23:24
Dr_WillisI dont find lubuntu in vbox cumbersom ;)23:24
Dr_Willisgiven how my normal 'setup' is so tweaked compared to a vanilla install of ubuntu - id think you would want to test in a 'clean' known install in any case23:25
UlfalizerXRS1: it's better than nothing, and i'd probably do more rigorous testing before releases23:25
Dr_Willisat least you are not asking how to get your app in the default ubuntu repos just so you can have others test it. ;)  (had someone in here demanding to do that the other day, he dident even want to bother making his own ppa) ;P23:26
zykotick9Ulfalizer: you may run into issue with chroot and X... best of luck.23:26
zippo^hello, xinput set-prop 12 "Device Enabled" 0 works great. but when the computer restart, than must I again xinput set-prop 12 "Device Enabled" 0. where can I a setting from automatic?23:28
loahello, how i can make loading of ubuntu really sillent?23:29
loasometimes when ubuntu boot i see warning or other output of init scripts23:30
Ulfalizerzykotick9: yeah, not sure how that would work with something like sdl, which needs to link against the x libs :/23:30
loahow i can switch it off complete?23:30
Ulfalizerif those are 64-bit as well, you'd need a whole separate system with a ton of packages in the chroot it seems...23:30
Dr_Willisloa:  if theres a 'disk needing fsck'ed message' you really really do want to see those. ;)23:31
Ulfalizerbleh23:31
loaDr_Willis, =/23:31
Dr_Willisloa:  most people come in here asking how to see all the messages ;)23:32
* Ulfalizer wonders what the least-hassle vm thingy you could run is23:32
Dr_Willisbecause by default -  pymouth covers up most all of them  in many cases23:32
Dr_WillisUlfalizer:  vbox is rather easy to get going23:32
loaDr_Willis, it really anoing that i see messages for example about stunnel or something like this)23:32
loai just want emblem of ubuntu)23:32
Ulfalizerok23:32
loawithout any text and artefacts23:33
loabut knowlege about seeing all text messages will be good information too)23:33
loabut i think i no how i can do)23:33
Dr_Willis!text23:33
ubottuTo start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode23:33
Dr_Willisthe system boots to a framebuffer mode, and plymouth runs as soon as possible to give you the lovely (and often broken) ubuntu ....     loading screen23:34
OerHeks"GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" should prevent 'normal' text messages23:34
Dr_Willisit never seems to work right for me. because of issues with the nvidia drivers23:34
lb_Can someone help me?23:34
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Dr_Willis"quiet splash" is the defaults as far as i know.23:34
lbb2Can someone help me?23:36
FrozenlockHello gentlemen. Yesterday I updated my machine (sudo apt-get update) and since then my screens turn black a few seconds after boot. Audio is disabled as well, and pretty much everything else. It's as if my machine was going into sleep mode, and getting stuck in it.23:36
OerHeksjust ask lbb223:36
FrozenlockIs this a known problem for the last few updates?23:36
lbb2I need help.. OerHeks23:37
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lbb2I'm installing UbunTu in Virtual Box on my Windows 8 lap Top. Everytime it is done it asks me to restart and everytime I do Virtual Box stops working and it says it is not responding. I tried this with UbunTu 12.04 TLS and 13.04 I even unistalled Virtual Box and tried again and it didn't work.23:37
Dr_Willishmm.23:38
jared_Hello23:41
Dr_Willishowdies23:42
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Guest98274Is there a way to get Ubuntu on a 700mb disc, like a Ubuntu thats 700mb for 64bit pc23:42
Dr_Willislubuntu i belive fits on a 700mb cd   Guest9827423:42
Dr_Willisor use an older ubuntu release.23:42
Guest98274can i have a link23:43
Dr_Willis!torrents23:43
ubottuRaring can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/raring/desktop/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/raring/server/ubuntu-13.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your needs. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:696923:43
Guest98274im not very used to this23:43
Dr_Willis!lubuntu23:43
ubottulubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.23:43
Dr_Willislubuntu - is ubuntu without unity. but using the lxde desktop instead23:43
Guest98274im using XUbuntu23:43
Dr_Willismost people use a USB to install from these days Guest9827423:43
Guest98274i use a cd, but u can use usb drives??23:44
Dr_Willisyou have been able to use a bootalbe usb flash for like.. years...23:44
Guest98274WOW23:44
Dr_Willismost all disrtos do it that way these days. or can23:44
Guest98274how can i boot them on though, do i need a special one23:44
Dr_WillisIve ran whold systems off of a 32gb usb flash. ;)23:44
Dr_Willisyou just use a tool to put the ISO file on the usb in a special way23:44
Guest98274like??23:45
Dr_Willishttp://www.pendrivelinux.com/23:45
shusainGuest nearly all bios chips support the option but you have to go into bios sometimes23:45
Dr_Willis!install23:45
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate23:45
yeatsGuest98274: unetbootin is a good option too23:45
Guest98274k,well i gtg ima look into that23:45
Dr_Willisive had way to many issues with unetbootin over the years.  :) not tried it recently23:45
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Dr_Willissome of the tools at pendrivelinux have much nicer feature sets.23:46
Dr_Willislike Multi ISO files on a single usb. ;)23:46
Ulfalizerone issue i had when installing earlier today was that i couldn't change the boot order to put the usb stick first as it'd confuse the installer and break the install (infinite blinking cursor). had to keep the boot order with the disk first and force boot from the usb stick in the bios instead. :/23:47
Ulfalizerstuff like that could be more robust23:47
Dr_WillisUlfalizer:  ive not seen that been an issue in years.23:47
Ulfalizerthis is a two-year-old core-i7 machine23:47
Dr_WillisI dont have to change th4e order to install. i just tell the bios to boot the usb23:47
Ulfalizerdon't remember mobo off the top of my head. ssd drive.23:47
Ulfalizerhad to tell it to boot from the usb rather than put the usb first in the boot order though23:48
Ulfalizermy bios has an option for that23:48
Dr_Willisyou do have to double check that the GRUB loader is going on the MBR of the hd you plan on booting once you install.23:48
Ulfalizerseemed to be the difference between sda and sdb in the installer, so some confusion over mappings i guess...23:48
Dr_Willisyou dont need to put the USB first. ;)  unless you want it to always boot the usb if its plugged in.. but if you remove the usb. that bios setting gets reset from what ive seen23:49
Dr_Willisnow years ago - i had a pc that whatever HD you selected to boot from the bios menu - became 'sda' that really really casued issues.  this was befor the switch to 'UUID' nameing23:49
UlfalizerDr_Willis: i don't think putting the usb stick first in the boot order should break the install though. in many older bios:es that was the only way to boot from a cd iirc, if you also had a bootable hdd.23:50
unknown__Will someone teach me how to expand a Windows 7 iso onto a flash drive using ubuntu?23:50
Dr_WillisIve seen grub break for many other reasns Ulfalizer   - i imagine 'boot-repair' from a live cd - would have fixed your issues23:50
Dr_Willisunknown__:  you can use the 'dd' command to Image a ISO file straight to a usb.23:50
Ulfalizeroh, wasn't aware of that option23:50
Dr_Willisunknown__:  ie:  ->   'sudo dd if=windows.iso  of=/dev/sdX bs=4M'     where sdX is the proper device name for your USB.. DONT get it wrong.23:51
Fyodorovnaunknown_, ntfs with a boot flag, exstract it to it with the archive manager.23:51
Ulfalizerdid a linux from scratch thingy years ago, and i remember there being some guesswork involved in the bios->device mappings in grub, so not that weird if it's easily confused23:51
unknown__Dr_Willis ; Thank you, but I not sure what I'm doing23:51
Dr_Willisgrub not getting set right = is a top 10 problem these days23:52
Dr_Willisunknown__:  id suggest asking in #windows for guideance. they may know of some guides23:52
Dr_Willisunknown__:  the pendrivelinux site might have some tools to automate it also. Ive never put windows on a usb that way.23:52
unknown__Dr_Willis the Iso is in my homefolder and it's name is X17-24281.iso23:52
Fyodorovnathere is a forked to linux usb windows loader from ms23:52
unknown__do you have a link fyodorovna?23:53
Dr_Willishttp://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html23:54
threesixesoh yeah ubuntu 12.04 saving the day23:55
Dr_Willisseems unetbootin at one time had the feature as well23:55
Dr_Willisit may still have it. ;)23:55
unknown__Thank you Dr_willis23:55
unknown__I tried unetbootin but it didn't seem to work, maybe user error :P23:56
Fyodorovnaunknown_ look up winusb, it's a forked windows usb loader23:57
Fyodorovnaunknown_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/116885/can-i-use-ubuntu-to-write-a-windows-7-iso-to-usb-in-ubuntu23:58
FyodorovnaIt canbe installed without the ppa I believe, as a download23:59

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