[00:00] <solaruin> heh, ok, so i may have broke this pretty nicely, but its no worse than it was before
[00:00] <solaruin> so i got an error 17 from grub when loading
[00:00] <solaruin> so i just reinstalled grub, thinking everything would be fine
[00:00] <solaruin> so when i reloaded it, its just the grub prompt, and it wants me to tell it where the kernel is
[00:00] <wilee-nilee> solaruin, Context?
[00:00] <solaruin> how the hell do i find the kernel :p
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> reinstalled grub how?
[00:01] <solaruin> used a live disk
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> you should have used the boot-repair tool - i imagine
[00:01] <daftykins> why are the most useful technical posts (wilee-nilee's UEFI forum link) written by non-English speakers so they're hard to understand =|
[00:01] <solaruin> probably :p
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> solaruin, That tool generates a script that is quite helpful.
[00:02] <solaruin> which, the boot-repair tool?
[00:02] <arayaq> daftykins: link?
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[00:02] <solaruin> i only need to get into it once so i can get the files i need. any way i can find the kernal from the grub menu?
[00:02] <OerHeks> daftykins, you might want to learn french http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/uefi
[00:03] <solaruin> i can do that from the grub menu?
[00:03] <daftykins> arayaq: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[00:03] <daftykins> OerHeks: no thanks
[00:03] <solaruin> nope. so from the live disk then i assume
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> solaruin, you can manual boot, use supergrub, or use the bootrepair app, your choice really.
[00:04] <solaruin> i'd like to manual boot. all i need to do is give it the kernel location, and t ell it to boot. i just dont know where the kernel is
[00:05] <genoobie> I was looking at the docs on ubuntu to install the b43 driver without internet
[00:05] <usuario> hello Im charo
[00:05] <genoobie> but there's no documentation for 13.04
[00:05] <genoobie> would this be the same cl in 13.04? tar xfvj broadcom-wl-5.10.56.27.3_mipsel.tar.bz2 sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware broadcom-wl-5.10.56.27.3/driver/wl_apsta/wl_prebuilt.o
[00:06] <arayaq> genoobie: There are some debs packed in the ISO for that, do you have the ISO around?
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> usuario, lets here some flamenco. ;)
[00:06] <usuario> I would like improve my english
[00:06] <genoobie> arayaq yes
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> hear*
[00:06] <genoobie> it's on a usb stick
[00:06] <genoobie> the live version anyone
[00:06] <genoobie> anyhow
[00:07] <genoobie> not sure how to extract that from the usb
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> !enter | genoobie
[00:07] <arayaq> genoobie: ok. Give mea second to get you the right path
[00:08] <masaka> Hi everyone, i have a problem with 13.04. I can no longer login as my user to Unity or Gnome classic; guest session works, though. Ctrl_Shift+F1 terminal session also works
[00:09] <genoobie> arayaq: it's lubuntu
[00:11] <usuario> Iḿ new usuary and I dont know what is this exactly
[00:11] <arayaq> genoobie: ok. First install the dkms module. In the USB is in pool/main/d/dksm/. Then install the driver in /pool/restricted/b/bcmwl/
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> masaka:  login at console.  check the owner of the .Xauthority file (move/rename it if you want)  most likely Some setting file is causing the  issue. You can move them to some Backup Directory
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> but the .Xauthority file is a common issue
[00:13] <OerHeks> Dr_Willis +1 thinking the same issue, it is owned now by root:root if i recall
[00:13] <masaka> Permissions on .Xauthority are 600, owner is myself
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> you can move/rename it just in case.  it will get remade
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> and move you rother config files to some backup dir if you want to be sure. :)
[00:15] <masaka> Dr_Willis: yes, moving the file got me in. Thanks!
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> i Belive that file gets the wrong info due to use of sudo instead of sudo
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> oops sudo instead of Gksudo
[00:19] <twobitsprite> if I buy software from ubuntu software-center, but  I'm not running ubuntu, will I still be able to download it?
[00:19]  * daftykins docks Dr_Willis' wages
[00:20] <twobitsprite> (I'm running linux mint, so I don't know if I should ask here or in the mint channel :P)
[00:20] <somsip> !mint | twobitsprite
[00:21] <masaka> Dr_Willis: the only "sudo" command that I ran yesterday was "sudo shutdown -h now", is this something risky?
[00:21] <Flannel> twobitsprite: You should ask in the mint channel.  It depends on whether mint has maintained compatibility with that particular package (library versions, etc)
[00:21] <SonikkuAmerica> OK, I did as y'all suggested previously, do I need to set a device to put GRUB in?
[00:22] <pfraze> working on a cli tool, am wondering: what are the benefits of using argv versus environment flags (eg PORT=8000 myprogram)?
[00:23] <twobitsprite> Well, my question isn't necessarily about compatibility with mint, I can figur that out... I'm just asking about the logistics of downloading packages from ubuntu software center that I purchased
[00:23] <pfraze> in c, argv is much more accessible, but this is a nodejs script, so it's actually easier to access the environment variables
[00:23] <SonikkuAmerica> To clarify, on my potential Ubuntu 13.04 (64-bit) install on a UEFI machine dual-booting with Windows 8, do I need to set a separate partition for GRUB, or not?
[00:24] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[00:24]  * dharmaturtle noms popcorn
[00:24] <SonikkuAmerica> To clarify, on my potential Ubuntu 13.04 (64-bit) install on a UEFI machine dual-booting with Windows 8, do I need to set a separate partition for GRUB, or not?
[00:26] <twobitsprite> SonikkuAmerica: grub doesn't need it's own partition... do you mean a /boot partition?
[00:27] <SonikkuAmerica> twobitsprite: Possibly. I should rephrase: Do I need to mess with the "Device for bootloader installation" combo box, or is the default correct for UEFI?
[00:28] <twobitsprite> SonikkuAmerica: I'm not sure if UEFI cares... I have servers are work with UEFI and they just have grub installed in the MBR and have a single partition
[00:28] <SonikkuAmerica> twobitsprite: Well if it's called the MBR, then it's not UEFI.
[00:28] <twobitsprite> but then again, they're booting over iSCSI...
[00:29] <Freeder> Hello. is there a way to see what shares an nfs server is offering, locally? I just set up an nfs server (or so I think) but can't connect to it from my client machine. How would I start to troubleshoot this?
[00:29] <twobitsprite> UEFI supports standard/classic PC disk partition labels.
[00:30] <SonikkuAmerica> twobitsprite: Well, that answered it. :)
[00:31] <twobitsprite> SonikkuAmerica: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Disk_device_compatibility
[00:32] <SonikkuAmerica> twobitsprite: Well, I know it supports GPT (which is what I'm using). Thanks for the help though.
[00:36] <zippo^> is ppa stable too?
[00:36] <twobitsprite> Freeder: I would start by making sure the NFS daemons are running, then check netstat/rpcinfo to see what ports they're running on and check iptables to make sure those ports are open
[00:37] <twobitsprite> (including portmapper, which should be running on port 111)
[00:50] <wsky> hey, how do i maximize windows in unity?
[00:50] <wsky> i mean, with keybard.
[00:50] <wsky> shortcuts.
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> press and hold the SUPER key to see a list of common actions
[00:53] <genoobie> do you have to sudo dpkg?
[00:53] <wsky> Dr_Willis: cool, thx
[00:55] <Freeder> I have two web servers behind my NAT. server A is currently exposed to the world on port 80. I mounted web server B's content on server A at /var/www/B . However, when I surf to that location, it attempts to make me download a php file, instead of view it in the browser ( I can view it fine surfing directly to server B). Any thoughts on why that doesn't work?
[00:55] <Freeder> I don't know much about web serving
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> could be theres some sort of security/permissions wrong. or the server is not following mounts or links. You might want to ask in #apache if thats what you are using
[00:56] <Freeder> perms all match up, and the file being served is the one that I should be viewing, not downloading.
[00:56] <Freeder> thanks
[00:56] <Freeder> I'll ask there as well
[00:56] <Freeder> but everything 'looks' just like B, on A
[00:59] <genoobie> ugh
[00:59] <genoobie> I am stuck
[01:02] <rypervenche> genoobie: What's up?
[01:04] <Thorium220> hi, newbie here needs a hand. anyone around?
[01:05] <rypervenche> !ask | Thorium220
[01:05] <Thorium220> danke
[01:06] <bluedogslim> Hello all
[01:06] <bluedogslim> I love ubuntu
[01:06] <bluedogslim> Pretty cool os
[01:07] <sjlsjl> anyone available to help with a PCIe SATA card driver issue?  
[01:07] <bluedogslim> sjlsjl - did try installing the latest kernel?
[01:07] <sjlsjl> i've got the latest in 12.04.3 LTS
[01:08] <Thorium220> I have a robot running ubuntu server 12.blah, and I need to install VNC on it. I have the appropriate .deb file, but I ws wondering what the best way to go about installing it is? The robot doesn't have an internet connection, and the only way I can get anything to/from it is via SSH from my laptop. I'm rather inexperienced and don't want to bugger things up (again).
[01:08] <bluedogslim> I just downloaded the latest kernel in 13.04 and it fixed all my issues
[01:08] <sjlsjl> Bought it partly because they advertized built in support in 2.6.31+ - I'm on 3.8.0 so it should be new enough
[01:13] <bluedogslim> You guys have any luck getting scanners to work in all in one printers?
[01:14] <petergunn> my old Hp c7280 all-in-one worked with xsane over network
[01:14] <petergunn> with hplip
[01:14] <petergunn> and hp toolbox
[01:14] <bluedogslim> Ya
[01:14] <bluedogslim> I have a canon
[01:14] <bluedogslim> I can't seem to get the scannner working
[01:15] <bluedogslim> I will play with it at work tomorrow
[01:15] <petergunn> yah not sure about that - I have a Brother all-in-one ow but I havent tried scanning
[01:16] <HappyNewYear13> is the last Firefox, version 24, acting funny for you guys too?
[01:16] <bluedogslim> petergunn - how did you install the drivers on the brother?
[01:17] <petergunn> I installed the .debs from the Brother website
[01:17] <HappyNewYear13> is the last Firefox, version 24, acting funny for you guys too?
[01:17] <bluedogslim> Petergunn - did you use the terminal to install?
[01:17] <HappyNewYear13> what's the channel where all the ubuntu ops get together?
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> HappyNewYear13, This channel works with you addressing the actual issues.
[01:18] <HappyNewYear13> wilee-nilee, i have another question for them, something that happened in the past
[01:18] <TuxBlackEdo> hey, i am trying to make a script execute only on startup, but it also executes on shutdown, how do i fix that? I used "update-rc.d myscript defaults"
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> #ubuntu-ops
[01:18] <HappyNewYear13> thanks wilee-nilee
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> np
[01:19] <SoftFeta> 264 s!
[01:19] <lucknerjb> exit
[01:19] <HappyNewYear13> who here knows bahzang? what happened to him?
[01:19] <SoftFeta> dead
[01:19] <HappyNewYear13> or bazhang
[01:20] <HappyNewYear13> i don't remember how to spell his nickname, but really  where is bazhang
[01:20] <HappyNewYear13> did he change his nickname?
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> HappyNewYear13, this is not support stuff take it to the opd channel.
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> opps*
[01:21] <dharmaturtle> Does anyone know a preferred Rescue LiveCD/USB?
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> dharmaturtle, For?
[01:21] <dharmaturtle> lost a bunch of text files. Hoping to get them back. Original OS was Ubuntu.
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> dharmaturtle, testdisk is commonly used
[01:22] <petergunn> blueslimdog: cant remember - it was either via nautilus or command like using alien
[01:23] <petergunn> http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_scn.html#brscan4
[01:23] <petergunn> was the scanner download
[01:25] <bluedogslim> I gotta check the support for my printer.
[01:26] <bluedogslim> How do you guys pick new hardware?  Like printers? Isn't the support weak for  linux drivers on some models?
[01:29] <petergunn> I bought a Brother MFCJ430W because of the cheap ink and manufacturer Linux support
[01:29] <petergunn> printer was under $50
[01:30] <petergunn> ink is super cheap - 24 for ~$15
[01:30] <petergunn> print quality is only ok tho - nut that fine for me
[01:35] <UnHolyTerror> I buy HP printers.
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> ive switched to Brother also. HP gave me too many issues in the past few years
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> It pays to research befor you buy.
[01:39] <linuxuz3r> hi
[01:39] <Pernicious-Taint> hi
[01:43] <hugok> Hey whats up guys?
[01:44] <Pernicious-Taint> hi!
[01:44] <hugok> Im manually partitioning a 40GB into "/" "/home" and 'swap", how many gigs each?
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> just 40gb? Id just use a / and swap
[01:45] <hugok> also, should the "/" be a phyisical partition or logical?
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> Unless you know how much space you will be needing
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> PRIMARY or logical - dosent matter
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> i use all primaries if i can in most cases
[01:46] <hugok> how does 10gb "/", 27.9 gb "/home", and 2.1gb "swap" sound?
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> 10gb for / would be WAY to tiny for my rather basic needs
[01:46] <hugok> hmmm
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> it would be workable.. if you kept track of what you where doing
[01:46] <hugok> what exactly does / do?
[01:46] <Dr_Willis>   / holds everything
[01:47] <hugok> compared to /home?
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> including /tmp /var/ /var/apt/cache (shich is like 2 gb for me right now)
[01:47] <Dr_Willis>    / is the 'root' of the whole filesystem
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> whats not in /home/ will be in /
[01:47] <hugok> so like 1/2 & 1/2 /home vs /
[01:47] <hugok> ?
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> for 30gb.. id do it all to / and swap. but you lose the benifits of a seperate /home/ but face it with JUST 30gb// you can backup your whole system to a $15 flash drive.
[01:48] <hugok> its 40gb
[01:48] <hugok> but still, i see
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> I got a 3TB hd just for my /home/ ;)
[01:49] <hugok> lol, the 40 was the biggest HDD i could get for free
[01:49] <hugok> its IDE
[01:49] <hugok> and has max transfer speed of like 20 Mb/s
[01:50] <hugok> its only the OS so my server file transfer wont be too bad
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> lets just say that if / fills up.. it really really sucks. ;)
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> if /home/ fills up.. the users are annoyed.. but the system should stillwork. ;)
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> i always use at least 20-30 for / if i can.
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> its also fairly easy to setup a external USB for the users to use as part of their /home/ if you want
[01:51] <hugok> yeah, I was thinking that
[01:52] <hugok> is there a way to resize a partition without screwing everything?
[01:52] <hugok> like in 6 months or so when I realize you are right
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> gparted can resize
[01:53] <hugok> oh yeah
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> but with such small partions. it may be faster to just backup
[01:53] <Nothing_Much> Is there any status on XMir on Armel?
[01:56] <bluedogslim> Any suggestions for getting a good covert art browers for mp3s?  Should I use rythmn box? Or another mp3 player?
[01:57] <Nothing_Much> Is there any status on XMir on Armel?
[01:58] <hugok> I don't know
[01:59] <hugok> man I used to be so scared about partitioning now im doing it left-handed while eating ribs and playing cs
[01:59] <hugok> Raid)!
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> from what ive seen in here.. :) best to stay away from raid.
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> and of course always make backups
[02:00] <hugok> is raid a bad thing?
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> I need to write up a Top Lessos learned in #ubuntu ;)
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> hugok:  if you dont understand what raid is doing.. and it breaks. ;) it can be a very tough learning experience
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt. keep things simple
[02:01] <hugok> Well I know Raid0 breaks everything if it breaks, but its nothing critical really
[02:01] <hugok> just a home movie streming server
[02:01] <hugok> on a budget of 0
[02:01] <hugok> make that -0
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> about every pc i got in the house - works as a dlna server :)
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> several rasperry pis. android devicves. even the router
[02:03] <hugok> androids?
[02:03] <hugok> what do they do?
[02:04] <hugok> Aw frick now its asking me which kernel I want
[02:04] <hugok> there's like 30 options
[02:04] <hugok> actually more like 70
[02:04] <hugok> jesus
[02:05] <hugok> good thing there is a 'none' option :)
[02:05] <zippo^> hugok!! Wi-Fi works great now (-:
[02:06] <hugok> zippo^, sweet, what did you do?
[02:06] <zippo^> hugok: http://askubuntu.com/questions/345608/sorry-installation-of-this-driver-failed-please-have-a-look-at-the-log-file-f
[02:06] <hugok> huh, interesting
[02:07] <hugok> good thing you got that working :)
[02:07] <zippo^> i was searching long. i am very happy that it works now
[02:09] <cratola> hi
[02:09] <cratola> I need to increase ulimit -n
[02:09] <cratola> I have updated /etc/security/limits.conf but it's not taking effect
[02:11] <benklop> hey everyone, i'm running into a strange apt issue
[02:11] <benklop> and im not sure what is going on
[02:12] <qyt> haha
[02:12] <benklop> it seems like no packages in 'main' are getting loaded by any package manager
[02:12] <benklop> but main is in my sources.list
[02:12] <benklop> and i have no failures during update
[02:12] <qyt> kankan
[02:13] <rrm> hello peeps, how long will 10.04.4 LTS be supported?
[02:14] <cratola> can anyone help me with ulimit -n?
[02:14] <kostkon> rrm, server till apr 2015
[02:14] <cratola> U've tried like 3 times
[02:14] <cratola> I can't restart production *again*
[02:15] <bluedogslim> What is the best music player for ubuntu?
[02:15] <bluedogslim> ANy suggestions?
[02:15] <kostkon> !poll | bluedogslim
[02:15] <bluedogslim> Any suggestions?
[02:15] <benklop> bluedogslim: i really enjoy clementine, but ubottu is right
[02:15] <bluedogslim> ok
[02:15] <bluedogslim> thats cool
[02:16] <benklop> bluedogslim: you should look on alternativeto if you want to have a decent list of choices.. thats what I do usually
[02:16] <rrm> @kostkon how about desktop?
[02:16] <kostkon> rrm, desktop version has already expired, not supported any more
[02:17] <kostkon> rrm, you should upgrade to 12.04
[02:17] <bluedogslim> To be honest I love rythmn box
[02:17] <bluedogslim> I just want something better for cover art
[02:17] <bluedogslim> I love ubuntu
[02:17] <qyt> ....
[02:18] <renzom> hi everyone, back in my windows days i was a MediaMonkey fanboy, specially for its tagging capabilities. What tagging software would you recommend as a linux alternative?
[02:19] <cratola> so does anyone know how to increase ulimit?
[02:20] <qyt> I can not use the irc xchat package wireshark capture
[02:21] <moes> 12.04-lts...unity..How to change cursor on desktop
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> moes:  ive seen people have issues changeing that for all apps.
[02:22] <kostkon> renzom, easytag kid3 puddletag picard
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> moes:  you may wan tto check on askubuntu.com for whats the best way
[02:23] <moes> Dr_Willis, I have already gone that route with no sucess
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> moes:  Yep. its just one of those buggy areas. its never worked well for several releases i recall.
[02:25] <benklop> bluedogslim: there are a number of utilities to help you download and manage cover art and metadata for your music collection, picard being one option. it might be a bit too much though - it's more for serious metadata management...
[02:30] <renzom> kostkon, benklop thanks for your answers, i'll try them out! :)
[02:31] <renzom> oops benklop wasn't answering me, but it helped too :) thanks anyway
[02:32] <benklop> renzom: for what you are mentioning, picard is nice since it can potentially automate a large part of the process
[02:32] <benklop> but it takes a while to learn to use
[02:32] <benklop> and it gets all its data using audio fingerprints and  musicbrainz DB info
[02:32] <benklop> no prob! :)
[02:36] <renzom> benklop: if it is not too much asking, what's your player of choice? I'm now with guayadeque (i spell it different every time), but i'm looking to test some others
[02:37] <benklop> renzom: i use clementine mostly
[02:37] <ubuntu> clear
[02:38] <benklop> renzom: but i used picard primarily to clean up all my data so i could upload to google music and have useful art and tagging on my phone
[02:38] <renzom> benklop: i think i tried it a while a go, i'll give it a chance
[02:39] <benklop> renzom: its not bad, honestly i like it because it mostly stays out of my way, but still isnt too minimal
[02:39] <benklop> renzom: it's based on the old versions of amarok
[02:39] <benklop> before they did their rewrite a number of years ago
[02:39] <Guest9161> Hi, I have 3 other machines running windows and I would like to make periodic backup of some folders there. Do you know how can I simply do that? ( I am aware of backup tools like bacula, but I am looking for something simpler.)
[02:39] <genoobie> hey all
[02:39] <renzom> benklop: sounds good :)
[02:40] <genoobie> trying to get my wireless working without internet
[02:40] <genoobie> I've got the b43-fwcutter installed
[02:40] <genoobie> and I've unpacked the tarball
[02:40] <genoobie> I'm not quite sure how to proceed with the CL
[02:40] <genoobie> the CL I am experimenting with is
[02:41] <genoobie> sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware broadcom-wl-5.10.56.27.3/driver/wl_apsta/wl_prebuilt.o
[02:41] <hugok> hey genoobie !
[02:41] <genoobie> hey hugok
[02:41] <hugok> you're back
[02:41] <genoobie> yep
[02:41] <hugok> any troubles?
[02:41] <genoobie> working on my wireless card install
[02:41] <genoobie> I'm so close I can taste it :)
[02:41] <genoobie> yes
[02:41] <genoobie> of course.  I tried following the guide here
[02:42] <mojtaba> Hi, I have 3 other machines running windows and I would like to make periodic backup of some folders there. Do you know how can I simply do that? ( I am aware of backup tools like bacula, but I am looking for something simpler.)
[02:42] <genoobie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> genoobie:  so you unpacked stuff and it made a broadcom-wl-5.1*  type directory/path?
[02:42] <genoobie> Dr_Willis: yes
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> genoobie:  so you used that command and change it to reflect the proper path to the extracted files? The version #'s can often change
[02:42] <genoobie> I have a ~/Desktop/b43-fwcutter/broadcom-wl-5.100.138
[02:43] <genoobie> Dr_Willis: that's where I am having a bit of trouble
[02:43] <camilong> help me
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> use the tab key to complete the paths.
[02:43] <genoobie> the broadcom folder has two dirs
[02:43] <genoobie> config and linux
[02:43] <genoobie> and the linux dir has 3 .o files
[02:43] <genoobie> I'm not sure which one to point to
[02:43] <camilong> configuration  wi fi  usb
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> one is named wl_prebuilt.o  ?
[02:43] <genoobie> I'm also not sure if anything should be in the /lib/firmware directory
[02:43] <camilong> not recognition
[02:43] <genoobie> Dr_Willis: no
[02:44] <varun_> genoobie, have you confirmed what chip your card uses? Are you sure it uses b43?
[02:44] <genoobie> varun_: yes
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> could be you got an  differnt archive then what you needed.
[02:44] <genoobie> no, the guide is for 12.04
[02:44] <genoobie> I have 13.04
[02:44] <genoobie> when I followed guide
[02:44] <genoobie> it wanted this firmware
[02:44] <varun_> genoobie, so which card is it?
[02:45] <mojtaba> Hi, I have 3 other machines running windows  in a LAN and I would like to make periodic backup of some folders there. Do you know how can I simply do that? ( I am aware of backup tools like bacula, but I am looking for something simpler.)
[02:45] <genoobie> bcm4318
[02:45] <camilong>  13.04
[02:45] <varun_> genoobie, all the b43 firmware files go into /lib/firmware, but your description looks a bit confusing
[02:46] <genoobie> well
[02:46] <varun_> genoobie, actually /lib/firmware/b43
[02:46] <genoobie> I'm confused then
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> !find broadcom-sta-dkms
[02:46] <genoobie> because I followed the guide more or less
[02:46] <lagbox> so i see the upgrade to 13.10 ... anyone against me upgrading to the beta at the moment ?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> !info broadcom-sta-dkms
[02:47] <varun_> genoobie, where have you got this folder from - ~/Desktop/b43-fwcutter/broadcom-wl-5.100.138
[02:47] <genoobie> http://www.lwfinger.com/b43-firmware/broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2
[02:47] <varun_> genoobie, Dr_Willis, that card won't work with the sta driver, only with b43
[02:47] <genoobie> Dr_Willis: it's not the "STA"
[02:47] <genoobie> varun
[02:48] <genoobie> so basically I followed the directions for 12.04
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> i dident see him list a specific card. )
[02:48] <genoobie> but subbed in 13.04 links
[02:48] <genoobie> first step was this
[02:48] <genoobie> sudo dpkg -i b43-fwcutter*
[02:48] <genoobie> so I installed b43-fwcutter
[02:49] <varun_> genoobie, it says "wl-5.100.138.." which I perfectly remember to be a sta driver version, that's why I say it was confusing..
[02:49] <genoobie> varun_: hey, you know more then I do
[02:49] <genoobie> so I got the wrong tarball
[02:49] <varun_> genoobie, do you have internet connection on that machine ?
[02:49] <genoobie> no
[02:49] <genoobie> but I can move a tarball to it
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-5.10.56.27.3_mipsel.tar.bz2 is this the arvhive you need?
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> b43 (12.04 Precise Pangolin)
[02:50] <genoobie> yeah but I have 13.04
[02:50] <genoobie> didn't know if that firmware was going to work
[02:50] <varun_> genoobie, have you also attempted the sta driver? We'll have to remove it first if you had.
[02:50] <genoobie> no not yet
[02:51] <mojtaba> Hi, I have 3 other machines running windows  in a LAN and I would like to make periodic backup of some folders there. Do you know how can I simply do that? ( I am aware of backup tools like bacula, but I am looking for something simpler.)
[02:51] <k0ff33> I'm trying to set up racoon.
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  rsync and a cron job
[02:51] <k0ff33> but I get check and compare ids wrong
[02:51] <genoobie> so
[02:51] <k0ff33>  DEBUG: check and compare ids : value mismatch (IPv4_subnet)
[02:51] <genoobie> Dr_Willis: will that tarball work with 13.04?
[02:51] <genoobie> or varun?
[02:51] <genoobie> varun_: I mean
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> genoobie:  no idea. I dont see why the Firmware would matter
[02:51] <TradeFortress> /etc/security/limits.conf is not taking any effect
[02:51] <varun_> genoobie, all you need is the firmware file, which is included in the nonfree firmware package. Download this package from here : http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/all/linux-firmware-nonfree/download
[02:52] <genoobie> varun_: I loaded that too
[02:52] <mojtaba> Dr_Willis: Could you please let me know how can I have access to the windows partition? I will check man rsync later.
[02:52] <varun_> sorry, my time-lag here is 25+ seconds :(
[02:52] <genoobie> when I dpkg'ed that I wonder if it put the firmware in the directory?
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  setup a windows share. and  mount it from the linux machines
[02:52] <varun_> genoobie, linux-firmware-nonfree ?
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  or setup a ftp server,  if you want to go old skool
[02:52] <genoobie> yes
[02:53] <mojtaba> Dr_Willis: Do you know how can I have access to c$? because windows partitions are shared by default!
[02:53] <genoobie> varun_: I already had downloaded that
[02:53] <genoobie> I just haven't properly executed the b43-fwcutter command
[02:53] <genoobie> I don't know the path to the firmware
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> i dident think you needed the fwcutter if you installed that package
[02:53] <varun_> genoobie, check with "ls /lib/firmware/b43" ... that directory doesn't exist by default
[02:54] <genoobie> yes, there is a folder there
[02:54] <varun_> genoobie, Dr_Willis is right. b43-fwcutter does the same thing as the nonfree package, just in a different way..
[02:54] <genoobie> there's a ton of ".fw" files
[02:54] <mojtaba> Dr_Willis: Do you know how can I have access to c$? because windows partitions are shared by default!
[02:54] <genoobie> so now what?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> that package (look at its contents with mc)  has  /lib/firmware/b43 and a LOT of other .fw files
[02:55] <genoobie> yes
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  a share with $ is special i belive.    Id make a 'backups' share. and use it.
[02:55] <varun_> genoobie, then do - "sudo modprobe -rv b43"... then ... "sudo modprobe -v b43" .... then check - "dpkg | grep b43" ........ are there any firmware errors?
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> !samba
[02:56] <mojtaba> Dr_Willis: You mean I make a backup at the windows machine and share it?
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  yes.. make a Backups Folder and make it a share.
[02:57] <genoobie> dpkg | grep b43
[02:57] <genoobie> dpkg error need an action option
[02:58] <varun_> genoobie, oops, it was - "dmesg | grep b43" - sorry, just awoke ;P
[02:58] <mojtaba> Dr_Willis: The data is changing always, then I should backup 2 times? one in the windows and second on the linux machine?
[02:58] <genoobie> b43 phy0 error
[02:58] <genoobie> firmware file b43/ucode5.fw  not found
[02:59] <varun_> genoobie, is it a recent message? could be an older one when the firmware wasn't installed..
[02:59] <genoobie> but at the end it says b43-phy0 loading firmware version 666.2
[02:59] <genoobie> that seems to be the latest version
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  No idea. depends on how critical yor data is.
[03:00] <genoobie> varun_: will this be persistent?
[03:00] <varun_> genoobie, check again "ls /lib/firmware/b43 | grep ucode5" - is it there?
[03:00] <genoobie> is there anything else I need to do?
[03:00] <varun_> yes
[03:00] <mojtaba> Dr_Willis: If I format new hard drive NTFS on the linux machine, should I defragment it later? or there is no need for that in linux?
[03:00] <genoobie> well wireless signals are coming up
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  a newly formated ntfs - is not fragmented
[03:00] <varun_> genoobie, it's all good then :)
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> mojtaba:  and ext2/3/4 dont have fragmentation issues.
[03:00] <genoobie> yes it is there
[03:00] <mojtaba> Dr_Willis: I mean after a while
[03:00] <genoobie> so reboot will yield a working wireless
[03:00] <genoobie> yay!
[03:01] <genoobie> varun_: thank you very much
[03:01] <varun_> genoobie, and did you mean the message will be persistent? If so.. no, it'll be gone at next boot
[03:01] <varun_> Welcome :)
[03:02] <genoobie> no
[03:02] <genoobie> I meant will the wireless be persistent
[03:02] <genoobie> so varun_ I'd like to do a cleanup
[03:02] <genoobie> should I uninstall b43
[03:02] <genoobie> I mean b43-fwcutter
[03:03] <varun_> genoobie, yup that will be persistent (unless you fiddled with the sta driver too, we'll be right here if you did ;P)
[03:03] <genoobie> no I never did
[03:04] <genoobie> varun_: do you have a second
[03:04] <genoobie> I'm trying to make a synopsis of what I did
[03:04] <varun_> genoobie, once the firmware files are in place, they'll always be there, unless you manually remove them. The only possible problem is the sta driver blacklisting the b43, which is as easy to fix as purging the sta
[03:04] <varun_> yup
[03:04] <genoobie> 1) installed b43-fwcutter
[03:05] <genoobie> 2) tried to install firmware-b43-installer
[03:05] <genoobie> this failed because it wanted the firmware from the internet
[03:05] <genoobie> then 3) installed linux-firmware-nonfree1
[03:05] <varun_> genoobie, b43-fwcutter is just a helper, not needed anymore, but won't hurt either. So is no. 2)
[03:06] <genoobie> 4) accidentally grabbed the wrong tarball
[03:06] <varun_> 3) is the real thing, has to be there now
[03:06] <genoobie> but #3 is just unpacking a bunch of firmware
[03:06] <genoobie> no?
[03:07] <genoobie> then I was going to execute the b43-fwcutter command on the wrong file but was stopped by you and Dr_Willis
[03:08] <varun_> genoobie, yes, 3 did what you think, but I'm not sure if purging it will also remove the files. so better just leave it installed.
[03:08] <genoobie> who recognized that tarball was the wrong one
[03:08] <genoobie> then since you saw that I did #3
[03:08] <genoobie> we can skip to #5) modprobe the right fw
[03:09] <varun_> genoobie, we are not sure if it was the right or wrong file, we just didn't know about it, so better get rid of it
[03:09] <varun_> the tar.bz file
[03:09] <genoobie> deleted it
[03:09] <genoobie> so to uninstall those two helper pkgs
[03:10] <genoobie> b43-fwcutter and firmware installer
[03:10] <genoobie> how do I do that
[03:10] <genoobie> dpkg -u?
[03:10] <varun_> genoobie, if everything is right, you won't need to do anything manually now. It should all work automatically on next boot.
[03:10] <genoobie> let me reboot
[03:10] <genoobie> but don't I want to get rid of those helper bin?
[03:11] <varun_> genoobie, in fact, you can just copy the /lib/firmware/b43 directory --> remove everything you tried --> copy the directory back "IF" it gets deleted during purging the nonfree package..
[03:12] <genoobie> when I tried to copy a folder into that directory earlier it said "access denied"
[03:13] <varun_> genoobie, you can copy "From" it. To copy "Into" it, you'll need to be root "sudo cp..."
[03:13] <genoobie> oh
[03:13] <genoobie> the FileMan won't handle this automatically?
[03:13] <varun_> genoobie, so in short - you can delete all the helper packages now. Just keep the "linux-firmware-nonfree" one just in case. It'll work on all versions of Ubuntu.
[03:14] <genoobie> how do you "delete" the helper pkgs?
[03:14] <varun_> genoobie, only if FileMan is opened as root "gksu.."
[03:15] <genoobie> how do you delete the helper pkgs
[03:15] <varun_> not necessary, but you should be able to "apt-get remove <desired package>"
[03:15] <varun_> basically, I meant the garbage in your home or desktop :)
[03:15] <genoobie> oh
[03:16] <genoobie> so just the .deb files
[03:16] <varun_> genoobie, the helpers are in KB anyway..
[03:16] <genoobie> yeah
[03:16] <varun_> yup
[03:16] <genoobie> I just like to keep it clean
[03:16] <varun_> or "look" clean ;P
[03:16] <genoobie> to update the OS?
[03:17] <genoobie> software updater
[03:17] <varun_> the firmware dir will survive updates
[03:17] <genoobie> was going to install flash
[03:17] <genoobie> hold a sec, I am going to shut down this laptop
[03:17] <genoobie> and start xchat from lubuntu
[03:17] <varun_> go ahead..
[03:18] <genoobie> oh
[03:19] <genoobie> Updated software has been issued since 13.04 was released
[03:19] <genoobie> 177MB
[03:19] <genoobie> ughj
[03:20] <varun_> Mine has 640 MB pending.... ;)
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> and when installed.. takes up another 1mb of space. ;P
[03:20] <genoobie> yeah, I was happy with quetzal
[03:21] <rrm> no more support for 10.04.4 desktop?
[03:21] <varun_> Dr_Willis, not going to sacrifice that much.. lol
[03:21] <varun_> rrm, normally not, but what is your problem?
[03:21] <genoobie> I hoped that lubuntu would be lighter
[03:21] <genoobie> I want my kids to learn how to use a linux box
[03:21] <genoobie> screw windows
[03:21] <genoobie> but learn them both really
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu is the lightest full featured desktop.
[03:22] <varun_> on the system, yes, on the download size, not much
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> but lubuntu is lacking in some features  many people want.
[03:22] <tekn33q> dont force your children to learn unix!!!!
[03:22] <rrm> @varun_  I can not run 12.04 LTS since no pae, I wanted centos 6.4 but that does not have pae either
[03:22] <tekn33q> thats mean
[03:22] <genoobie> Dr_Willis: like what?
[03:23] <varun_> rrm, how much ram do you have? And are you sure your CPU is not 64 bit?
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> genoobie:  just little things you may never notice.  unless you use the other desktops then wonder how to drag an icon from the menu to the desktop. or a panel. or why theres no right-click-to-share feature
[03:23] <varun_> genoobie, in order to learn Linux, your children don't have to learn to "screw windows".. :P
[03:24] <genoobie> yeah, I know
[03:24] <rrm> @varun_  ThinkPad R51, 1.5GHZ Pentium M, 2048Ram, 60GB HDD,
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> rrm, You can use the net install it has no pae.
[03:24] <genoobie> but I don't want to buy win7 or win8
[03:24] <genoobie> I am running xp
[03:24] <genoobie> pretty soon at the EOL
[03:24] <varun_> rrm, pae is required for more than 3.5 GB ram
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> its allready at EO. but its like a zombie that wont stay down.. ;P
[03:24] <grahamsavage_> genoobie: all modern os's are pretty much the same, so unless your training them how to use terminal commands
[03:24] <genoobie> :)
[03:25] <grahamsavage_> genoobie: i wouldn't say there's a great deal of difference between osx / windows / ubuntu from the UI side of things
[03:25] <varun_> rrm, just download Lubuntu or Xubuntu 32 bit (torrents are recommended), and install it.
[03:26] <genoobie> well grahamsavage_ I would disagree just a little
[03:26] <genoobie> xp requires a quite a bit more maintenance than linux imo
[03:26] <rrm> do they have a long term support?  I can do debian but that is a bit too hippy for me
[03:26] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage_, even less between OSX and stock Android
[03:26] <genoobie> from the perspective of browsing easily infected
[03:26] <genoobie> my kids are 10
[03:27] <genoobie> they go to those stupid flash game sites and wham
[03:27] <genoobie> computer is infected
[03:27] <varun_> rrm, Xubuntu has the long term support as far as I know, but Lubuntu not
[03:27] <grahamsavage_> genoobie: nooooo, your kidding .. ubuntu is much harder than xp.  xp has much wider range of device support (mainly because the manufacturers target windows) and in general you would have less problems even just for browsing
[03:27] <cfhowlett> rrm, next lubuntu 14.04 should be LTS
[03:27] <genoobie> grahamsavage_: yes
[03:27] <grahamsavage_> genoobie: i view ubuntu as the OS for people who dont' mind putting in the effort
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> does it really matter if it has LTS support or not? ;)
[03:28] <grahamsavage_> genoobie: I wouldn't recommend it to non-computer minded people though
[03:28] <varun_> genoobie, be aware of the flash games, they can cause issues on Linux too if "allow connection to internet" is not disabled.
[03:28] <cfhowlett> Dr_Willis, only if you'd prefer to avoid updating every 6 - 9 months ...
[03:28] <genoobie> varun_: good to know
[03:28] <genoobie> is that a flash setting or a game by game setting
[03:29] <varun_> genoobie, I was playing one on Gnash, and found it was connected to its server despite being an offline game.
[03:29] <genoobie> ugh
[03:29] <varun_> genoobie, it is the player's setting. I was using Gnash
[03:30] <varun_> by default, "Enable" was selected.
[03:30] <genoobie> well, the likelihood that a linux box will be infected is definitely much smaller than a windows box
[03:30] <genoobie> and just a tad bit easier to diag
[03:31] <genoobie> anyhow
[03:31] <varun_> genoobie, yeah, as long as you don't run it as root, it can't spread anything, but still - the behaviour was something unwanted and unexpected.
[03:31] <LinuxGold> each OS is tailored for a level of user -- I prefer linux cuz it got a lot of utilities that helps me to do what Winblowz can't do.
[03:31] <genoobie> now that the install is nearly compete I'm going to clonezilla
[03:31] <genoobie> put the img somewhere safe
[03:31] <genoobie> and wait until my kids break it
[03:31] <genoobie> :)
[03:31] <varun_> good idea - a very good one (clonezilla)
[03:31] <genoobie> this time it will be easier than a complete install
[03:32] <genoobie> varun_: thanks for the help btw
[03:32] <varun_> it was fun :)
[03:33] <genoobie> :)
[03:33] <genoobie> oh crap
[03:33] <genoobie> I knew I should have uninstalled the helper apps
[03:34] <varun_> What happened?
[03:34] <genoobie> when I updated, it just copied all new FW files into that dir
[03:34] <varun_> shouldn't be a prob.
[03:34] <genoobie> funny because it downloaded that 5.100
[03:34] <genoobie> hope you're right
[03:35] <varun_> packages are new, but the fw files are almost always the same.
[03:35] <genoobie> if that is the case I can just dpkg that linux-nonfree
[03:35] <varun_> Yup :)
[03:35] <genoobie> and it ought to overwrite them
[03:39] <missegg> I'm using gparted to copy the contents of one partition onto another. I got an error, "Input/output error during read on /dev/sda" What does it mean?
[03:40] <rrm> Holly cow, 1.8mb/s over LTE from xubuntu torrent, impressive
[03:40] <varun_> rrm, and it ensures the integrity of the downloaded data too :)
[03:41] <cfhowlett> rrm, torrents are definitely the way to get ISO's ...
[03:41] <genoobie> varun_: LTE?
[03:41] <genoobie> brb
[03:42] <missegg> I'm using gparted to copy the contents of one partition onto another. I got an error, "Input/output error during read on /dev/sda" What does it mean?
[03:42] <grahamsavage_> long-term-evolution is such a stupid name
[03:42] <crocket> Does ubuntu have an integrated calenar app?
[03:42] <crocket> KDE has KOrganizer.
[03:42] <crocket> I want to be notified about events.
[03:42] <rrm> cfhowlett, indeed, but at work i need to get direct, since they ban torrents and only get less than 1mb
[03:42] <varun_> grahamsavage_, where did that name come from? I was going to look up the net ;)
[03:43] <cfhowlett> rrm, your are virtually guaranteed to get a fragged ISO via direct download.  do your MD5sum hash check before installing same.
[03:43] <grahamsavage_> varun_: no idea
[03:43] <cfhowlett> *you're*
[03:43] <varun_> missegg, there can be many reasons for the error you are getting, most common being a failing drive, loose connection of bad sata/pata port.
[03:44] <varun_> or*(
[03:44] <genoobie> yay
[03:44] <genoobie> I'm on my kids linux box
[03:44] <Gamer1990> okay guys i'm having some issues with my screensavers
[03:44] <fuleo> i did a cd /var/www and theres an error message. INPUT/OUTPUT error.
[03:44] <varun_> genoobie, so it survived the reboot?
[03:44] <missegg> varun_: Shall I stop the operation and do a disk check, or can I do it after?
[03:44] <fuleo> what does this mean...
[03:44] <genoobie> seems so
[03:44] <expo987> you know a way to automatically run a terminal command on login?
[03:44] <genoobie> now time to install flash anbd go to bed
[03:44] <genoobie> how difficult is it to install flash
[03:44] <varun_> missegg, you should check it first, else the copy may be corrupt too
[03:44] <fuleo> and i went to cd /var   and do an ls -la... it shows file permission as D?????????
[03:45] <fuleo> and owner as ????
[03:45] <Gamer1990> i get this error when i run memscroller
[03:45] <fuleo> and group as ????
[03:45] <fuleo> couldnt get into my /var/www
[03:45] <varun_> beer to everyone on behalf of genoobie ??
[03:45] <cfhowlett> genoobie, if you haven't already: set up the admin account for admin stuff and set up a normal desktop user account (non-privileged)  for daily use.  they can't install/delete system that way
[03:45] <rrm> @cfhowlett you know, i got centos 5.9 over ftp and was ok, depends of the network load i would say
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> expo987:  depends on what the command is doing. ;)
[03:45] <missegg> varun_: What if I want to finish homework before the millenium ends? Is it the worst thing ever to do this? I mean the original has had zero problems
[03:45] <missegg> varun_: To run the disk check after, I mean
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> expo987:  ~/.config/autostart/ is one place to put scripts and commands
[03:46] <varun_> missegg, of course you can. It's your priorities :)
[03:46] <Gamer1990> the error is unable to load font corier bold etc
[03:46] <missegg> varun_: As someone more experienced than me, what do you think the likelihood is of there being something seriously wrong?
[03:47] <genoobie> cfhowlett, okay
[03:47] <fuleo> guys... what does it mean if you run ls -la on your command console... and u see a folder with permissions as D?????????  lots of question mark. is this corrupt ?
[03:47] <expo987> Dr_Willis: i want to save thinkpad trackpoint settings
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> Gamer1990:  so install the font? check the repos for fonts. or it may be in the ms fonts package
[03:47] <genoobie> I created two user accounts, one for each kid
[03:47] <missegg> varun_: the partition I'm copying is all my stuff and my operating system. So far no horrible problems. Computer is a couple years old
[03:47] <cfhowlett> genoobie, nicely done.
[03:47] <genoobie> how do I restrict their usage?
[03:48] <expo987> Dr_Willis: Will that be okay?
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> genoobie:  restrict them in what way?
[03:48] <varun_> missegg, the only possible problem is a corrupt copy at the end. Worst case scenario - an unreadable partition on the target drive.
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> expo987:  installing fonts is rather trivial.
[03:48] <genoobie> well nevermind
[03:48] <genoobie> I'm going to clonezilla the machine
[03:48] <genoobie> so let them break it
[03:48] <cfhowlett> genoobie, these are normal desktop accounts?  restricted by default
[03:48] <ace_me> hi all ! I get in the log of a site  configuration error:  couldn't check user.  Check your authn provider!: /frontend_dev.php
[03:48] <expo987> Dr_Willis: Fonts? Wrong user ;)
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> !info ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> expo987:  why wouldent saveing settings be ok? sure you dont mean Load settings?
[03:49] <expo987> Dr_Willis: how would i do it
[03:49] <missegg> varun_: So if I ignored, finished copying, ran a disk check, and assuming it succeeded in repairs, deleted the old partition everything would probably be okay?
[03:49] <Gamer1990> i have installed ttf-mscorefonts-installer from synaptic
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> expo987:  make a script that does whatever command you want. put it in ~/.config/autostart/
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> Gamer1990:  search the repos/package manager for that font perhaps its in some other package
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> !fonts
[03:50] <varun_> missegg, repairs don't always work the way you think, they can sometimes 'change' the files which I'm sure you don't want. Better compare with the source, then delete.
[03:50] <expo987> Dr_Willis: how do you 'make' a script
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> expo987:  with a text editor
[03:50] <Gamer1990> i already have it
[03:50] <missegg> varun_: Compare? How can I do that?
[03:50] <Gamer1990> do i just reboot?
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> !abs
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> Gamer1990:  try logging out/back in?
[03:51] <Gamer1990> !ops ubottu
[03:51] <missegg> I was gonna laugh if it talked about workouts when you wrote abs.
[03:51] <Gamer1990> !seen gamer90
[03:51] <varun_> missegg, I'm not sure, but probably 'rsync' would be the fasted way to check/fix that. It copies data from source to destination 'Only' when there is a difference, ignores the data which is same.
[03:52] <missegg> varun_: Woah, I didn't think it could do it accross partitions.
[03:52] <Gamer1990> can someone please answer me?
[03:52] <missegg> varun_: Thanks. You've been extremely helpful and pleasant.
[03:52] <cfhowlett> !patience|Gamer1990,
[03:52] <varun_> missegg, yes it can, although it is usually used across network.
[03:52] <Gamer1990> do i have to reboot after installing the "ttf-mscorefonts-installer" package?
[03:52] <varun_> missegg, pleasure :)
[03:53] <Gamer1990> i'll be back in a few mins
[03:54] <missegg> varun_: Man I should use a feminine handle every time I'm in here. Now that's service
[03:54] <varun_> missegg, I didn't notice that until now :P
[03:54]  * fuleo change handle to miss_fuleo
[03:54] <varun_> lol !!
[03:55]  * varunendra thinks some people get confused by the "dra" part of the name ;)
[03:57] <Gamer1990> i'm back
[03:57] <Gamer1990> it works
[03:57] <Gamer1990> now i want to know something
[03:58] <Gamer1990> how do i get my hard drives to show up in linux?
[03:58] <Gamer1990> other than my ubuntu drive
[03:58] <varunendra> Gamer1990, using Xubuntu?
[03:59] <Gamer1990> no
[03:59] <Gamer1990> Lubuntu
[03:59] <Gamer1990> i have 6 sata drives
[03:59] <Gamer1990> 1 of which is my main os drive
[03:59] <varunendra> then you should be able to see their icons in the left pane when the file manager is open. Just click to mount/open them
[03:59] <Gamer1990> i have pcmanfm
[04:00] <varunendra> Doesn't it show the icons?
[04:00] <genoobie> hmm
[04:01] <genoobie> been googling a bit
[04:01] <Gamer1990> hold on
[04:01] <genoobie> will be using chromium
[04:01] <genoobie> not sure exactly how to install flash
[04:01] <Gamer1990> do i run PCManFM as root or standard user?
[04:01] <xangua> genoobie: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[04:02] <varunendra> Gamer1990, unless you have a very specific and justifiable reason, never use the file manager as root
[04:02] <memeanonymous> hola
[04:02] <memeanonymous> hola
[04:02] <Gamer1990> hi
[04:02] <varunendra> Gamer1990, I don't remember, but there used to be some utility to mount/unmount the partitions, not sure if it is part of pcmanfm or not
[04:02] <memeanonymous> spanish ???
[04:02] <memeanonymous> english??
[04:02] <Gamer1990> okay
[04:02] <Gamer1990> i speak canadian english
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> i thought the file manager showed them somewhere
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> !info ntfs-config
[04:03] <memeanonymous> i speak spanish BOLIVIAN
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> I thought the desktop on lubuntu
[04:03] <genoobie> xangua, will this be for all users?
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> !es | memeanonymous
[04:03] <Gamer1990> !es memeanonymous
[04:03] <xangua> genoobie: yes
[04:03] <memeanonymous> okay
[04:03] <genoobie> xangua thanks
[04:03] <Gamer1990> !spanish memeanonymous
[04:04] <memeanonymous> xDD
[04:04] <Gamer1990> i don't know much about this irc chat channel
[04:04] <genoobie> xangua anything to do after that?
[04:04] <genoobie> update or anything?
[04:04] <genoobie> restart?
[04:04] <Gamer1990> !ubuntu-es
[04:04] <DuncanNZ> Gamer1990: type  /join #ubuntu-es  to join it?
[04:05] <xangua> genoobie: enjoy laggy flash videos
[04:05] <genoobie> xangua any tips for flash video?
[04:05] <genoobie> or flash games?
[04:05] <DuncanNZ> Gamer1990: or type  !foo | bar  to tell bar about foo (eg: "es")
[04:05] <genoobie> (run xp I suppose)
[04:05] <Gamer1990> memeanonymous : En la mayor?a de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla s?lo en ingl?s. Si busca ayuda en espa?ol entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.
[04:06] <histo> !flash | genoobie
[04:07] <Gamer1990> is there a good PC emulation package?
[04:07] <Gamer1990> for lubuntu?
[04:07] <histo> Gamer1990: vbox or qemu
[04:09] <Gamer1990> which one is better vbox or qemu?
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> Gamer1990:  try them both.  it deoends on your needs
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> !wine | Gamer1990
[04:10] <histo> !best | Gamer1990
[04:11] <Gamer1990> okay
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> It very very much depends on what you want to run from the windows world. ;0
[04:32] <missegg> Oh geez, varnum_ isn't here
[04:33] <missegg> I've just cloned the contents of an extended partition to a new primary partition. How do I know which I have booted to?
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> see what the mount command says is mounted where
[04:34] <missegg> The extended partition is/was running my OS
[04:34] <missegg> Dr_Willis what command exactly
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> 'mount'
[04:35] <missegg> Dr_Willis JUST mount?
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> yes.....
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> and look at where / is mounted
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> mount
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,noatime,nodiratime,discard,errors=remount-ro)
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> sda2 is my /
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> oops sda1 ;)
[04:36] <missegg> I'm trying
[04:36] <missegg> to post
[04:36] <missegg> and it won't let me
[04:36] <missegg>              /dev/sda6 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[04:36] <missegg> tada
[04:36] <FloodBot1> missegg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:36] <missegg> Graah
[04:37] <al_la> hey all, quick question: cntl+alt+L locks screen, but is there a way to lock+turn screen off with shortcut command?
[04:37] <missegg> al_la super + L
[04:38] <missegg> al_la: I *think*
[04:38] <al_la> missegg by default in 13.04 that's not doing anything for me
[04:38] <missegg> al_la: I apologize for being useless
[04:38] <al_la> missegg: it's not as if I knew the answer :)
[04:39] <missegg> Dr_Willis, I had a primary with my OS, then I installed a second OS on an extended, then I deleted the original, then I created a new primary, then I copied the extended to the primary, and now I am trying to boot from that
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> id have to pull out the old 'go search on askubuntu.com' answer. ;) i bet they got a page/sheet of all the shortcts. also perss and hold the SUPER key to see a common list
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  you copied as in CLONED/Imaged? if so i imagine you will need to correct your grub and fstab entries to match the new UUIDs
[04:40] <al_la> Dr_Willis tried and trying, no luck yet.  was hoping it was something obvious, will keep looking though.
[04:40] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I copied as in whatever gparted does when you copy + paste
[04:41] <Ben64> al_la: make a script to do it for you
[04:41] <missegg> Dr_Willis: But what you said sounds like it is probably the right thing to do. How may I do it
[04:41] <al_la> Ben64: yeah that's the only way I'm seeing to do it
[04:42] <Ben64> either make one to turn the screen off whenever its locked, or a new shortcut to do both
[04:42] <Ben64> i have my computer set up so when i walk in the room, the screen turns on and the lock is disabled automatically
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  no idea. Id check that the uuids are in fact differnt. if they are the same. that may cause all sorts of issues
[04:43] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I don't know how to do that either.
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  the uuids may be differnt if Gparted
[04:43] <Ben64> when you copy partitions, the uuid usually stays the same
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> !uuid
[04:43] <Ben64> and you can make the uuids whatever you want... /dev/sdc2: UUID="00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000064" TYPE="ext4"
[04:44] <missegg> Dr_Willis: They are exactly the same
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> if you are feeling brave.. change the one you DONT want to boot from/use ;)
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> tune2fs command can change the uuid
[04:44] <missegg> Ben64, Dr_Willis: How can I change one? What would I do after that to boot to the new primary?
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> there could be other things we are missing. Ive never bothered to switch drives this way
[04:45] <missegg> Ping me I don't know who you're talking to
[04:45] <missegg> or what you mean
[04:45] <Ben64> missegg: tune2fs can change UUID
[04:46] <Ben64> oh , Dr_Willis said that
[04:46] <missegg> Ben64: Oh geez, this command scares me.
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> you are the only one with a question at this time missegg  ;)
[04:47] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Great, I love attention
[04:47] <Dr_Willis>  [-U UUID]
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> tune2fs /dev/sda1 -U ENTER_NEW_UUID
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> (with a sudo at the front of course)
[04:47] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Awesome
[04:48] <missegg> Dr_Willis: it should have the same amount of digits and the same dashes, yes?
[04:48] <Ben64> 8-4-4-4-12
[04:54] <ur0pl> is there a way to remap just a certain key?
[04:55] <Daemonx> is there anything non-wine use for netflix sub silverlight ?
[04:55] <missegg> Dr_Willis: it should have the same amount of digits and the same dashes, yes?
[04:55] <missegg> Daemonx: Not at the moment
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> thats most likely a good idea missegg
[04:55] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Gracias
[04:55] <Ari-Yang> Daemonx, as of now.. no
[04:57] <ur0pl> i have a second hand keyboard for my netbook with a peace sign key, a heart key, and a music note key as extra keys. any of oyu seen these keyboards?
[04:58] <bluedogslim_> is there an easy way to install a .tar.gz file?  Rather than using command lines?
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> bluedogslim_:  No.
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> and how to inmstal it totally depends on whats IN that .tar.gz   that is JUST an archive
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> it culd contain anything
[04:59] <bluedogslim_> Ya, I'm noticing.
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> best to tell us what it is you want to do
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> and what is is you are installing
[04:59] <bluedogslim_> I want to install a printer driver
[05:00] <bluedogslim_> And its a tar.gz file.
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> and the printer is a?
[05:00] <bluedogslim_> Canon ImageClass MF4890dw
[05:00] <Myrtti> bluedogslim_: have you plugged it in yet for the first time?
[05:00] <bluedogslim_> I can't seem to get the scanner portion of it to work properly
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> Canon - eww. ;)  THere are many canon drivers in the repos - just not installed by default
[05:00] <bluedogslim_> Everything else works fine.
[05:01] <Myrtti> oh ok. You have.
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> the Scanner  part - does NOT use the printer drivers. ;) cups handles printing
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> SANE handles scanners
[05:01] <bluedogslim_> What is SANE?
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> its possible the scanner is not supported
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> !sane
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> SCANE is the 'set' of tools that use scanners
[05:02] <bluedogslim_> How do I know if my scanner is compatible with Sane?
[05:02] <Dr_Willis>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners -
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> or the sane.org site
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> check at askubuntu.com may help also
[05:03] <missegg> Dr_Willis: the output of changing it was 'tune2fs 1.42 (29-Nov-2011)'
[05:03] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Does that mean I did it right?
[05:03] <crocket> hi
[05:03] <missegg> Hi, crocket
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  i dont think you will noticve the uuid change untill you reboot
[05:03] <crocket> Does unity or ubuntu have an integrated PIM software?
[05:03] <bluedogslim_> Doesn't look like my scanner is supported.
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> bluedogslim_:  with canon - be happy the printer works at all
[05:04] <crocket> I want a deamon to notify me of events in the background.
[05:04] <missegg> Dr_Willis: sudo blkid says they are different now
[05:04] <bluedogslim_> Dr_Willis - what brand should I consider in the future?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> The Canon company - does not support  linux very well
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> bluedogslim_:  anything NOT canon. :)
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> i perfer brother
[05:04] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I wrote the new one down.
[05:05] <bluedogslim_> Its sometimes tricky to pick a printer for ubuntu
[05:05] <crocket> anyone?
[05:05] <kostkon_> crocket, empathy?
[05:05] <crocket> what?
[05:05] <missegg> bluedogslim: I generally have very good luck with printers.
[05:05] <crocket> It's an IM software.
[05:05] <kostkon_> crocket, click on the envelope icon in the tray, then select chat
[05:06] <kostkon_> crocket, oh right. you said pi
[05:06] <crocket> I don't want chat.
[05:06] <missegg> kostkon_: I don't think that's what he's asking for
[05:06] <kostkon_> pim*
[05:06] <bluedogslim_> The issue isn't so much the printer. Its the extra features.
[05:06] <crocket> I want calendar.
[05:06] <bluedogslim_> ie - Scanner
[05:06] <crocket> calendar events.
[05:06] <crocket> I want to be notified of calendar events.
[05:06] <missegg> crocket: evolution calendar
[05:06] <crocket> missegg, Does it run in the background?
[05:07] <crocket> How about thunderbird lightning?
[05:07] <missegg> crocket: last I checked it was the ONLY calendar supported. Also yes
[05:07] <missegg> crocket: I think you still have to hook thunderbird into evolution in a special way to get it to work.
[05:07] <bluedogslim_> I'm here -
[05:07] <missegg> Dr_Willis, what do I do now?
[05:07] <missegg> Dr_Willis: If I reboot, will it let me boot to the primary?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  if you are lucky. it will see the new uuid and use that.
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> bluedogslim_:  in the future - buy seperate scanner/printers. ;) much less hassles
[05:10] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Okay, I'm putting my faith in you Doctor. Brb
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  ive sayd ive never done this befor
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> thers dozens of things we could be missing
[05:10] <bluedogslim_> Dr_Willis - Its ok - Dont need the scanner. would be nice however
[05:11] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Your bedside manner is terrible.
[05:11] <bluedogslim_> I really do love ubuntu.
[05:11] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I'm gonna reboot
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> last canon printer i had.. decided that  the FullNew Blue Ink bottle that i spent $25 on.. was empty.
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> then it would work for a day.. then not for a week...
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> that one got gave away. ;)  Gone to Brother and not had issues since.
[05:12] <missegg> I don't know what the point of owning a printer is. It never seems cost effective, always painful.
[05:12] <Rimtech> i need help with the cisco vpn client vpnc can anyone help me? i want to create 2 vpn tunnels to 2 different vpn concentrators
[05:12] <missegg> Like a cell phone plan, you got to have one with a bunch of people.
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> my HP printer lasted me 13 yrs. ;)
[05:12] <missegg> Sorry, brb
[05:13] <bluedogslim_> Anyone know of a good mass email program ?   I have a mailing list I do once per month to my cients.  I can't seem to find anything on ubuntu
[05:13] <kostkon> !find mailing list
[05:13] <kostkon> :/
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search  mail list
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> perhaps
[05:14] <bluedogslim_> what does that do?
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> uses the package manager to search for packages
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> !apt
[05:15] <airtonix> Installing from source, is there something better than checkinstall?
[05:15] <BrodocK> anyone using ubuntu 13.10 and think it's "stable enough"? in other words... can I upgrade right now and make it not crash the video card?
[05:16] <bluedogslim_> hmmm   Hard to pick on
[05:16] <bluedogslim_> one
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> BrodocK:  its working fine for me. buut thats all i can say - its workng for ME. ;)
[05:16] <BrodocK> Dr_Willis: AMD or Nvidia video card?
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> BrodocK:  Nvidia here
[05:17] <BrodocK> thanks
[05:17] <missegg_> I think I need to update grub.
[05:17] <missegg_> I ran sudo update-grub. Should I do anything else?
[05:18] <Rimtech> i need help with the cisco vpn client vpnc can anyone help me? i want to create 2 vpn tunnels to 2 different vpn concentrators
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> you may want to use that boot-repair tool missegg_
[05:18] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: ?
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[05:19] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: Why would I need to
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> first url mentions boot-repair
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> it can fix most any grub issyes you may ever encounter
[05:19] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: I haven't had windows on this thing in years
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> why did you think you need to 'update-grub' ? ;)
[05:20] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: Because grub didn't know there was another partition with an OS on it?
[05:20] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: It wasn't listed as an option at boot
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> thought you dident want to boot that one? ;)   or was i thinking of someone else.
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> the switched OS worked ?
[05:20] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: Also gparted had a tool to generate to a new uuid all along. Why didn't you tell me, man?
[05:20] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: I don't know man, I only just updated grub.
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  and how many times did i say  Ive never done this specific task befor
[05:21] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: It's not a switched OS anyway, it's a clone of my current partition
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  boot-repair i imagone could have fixed it with the existing uuid;s also
[05:21] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: I bet you aren't even a licensed doctor
[05:21]  * Dr_Willis got his degree in Loveology, because he IS the dr of LOOOOVEEEE!
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> PhD=Dr
[05:23] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: Philology?
[05:23] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: You're a philiphile
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> Raspberry Piofile.
[05:24] <missegg_> Mm. Save me a slice ;)
[05:24] <missegg_> wink wink nudge nudge
[05:25] <missegg_> Okay, rebooting again.
[05:25] <missegg_> brb
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> seems theres work on the RaspberryPi to make it work as a ChromeCast Reciever.
[05:30] <root32> How to boot ubuntu from USB ?
[05:31] <porchao> live
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> make a bootable usb. plug it in.. power up.. tell pc to boot the usb
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> pendrivelinux web ste has several tools to make a bootable usb with
[05:32] <root32> Dr_Willis: What is it ?
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> what is 'what' ?
[05:33] <missegg> Y'know I would REALLY like to go to bed someday
[05:33] <root32> Dr_Willis: Several tools for make boot usb ?
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> root32:  the Pendrivelinux web site has a listing of such tools.
[05:33] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I chose sda1, but it booted to sda6 anyway
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> theres dozens of them  to choose from
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  chose what where?
[05:33] <missegg> Dr_Willis: at boot
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> you mean at the GRUB menu?
[05:34] <missegg> Dr_Willis: it gave me a list of options
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> you have both os's  the 2 clones in the grub menu?
[05:34] <missegg> Dr_Willis: yes
[05:34] <missegg> Dr_Willis: and many different kernel choices as well
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> why not disable the one you dont want? thats what i culdent understand earlier why you were adding it back
[05:34] <missegg> Adding what back
[05:35] <missegg> I don't understand
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> If the grub configs tell the kernel to set / to be on sda6 then thats what it willuse for /.
[05:35] <missegg> I don't understand
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> Yep. i think thats part of the issue.
[05:35] <missegg> :\
[05:35] <missegg> I have an extension partition.
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> grub passes that UUID info to the kernel. that tells the  kernel where to look for /
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> exctended or primary dosent matter. its where its being told to look
[05:36] <missegg> I don't understand.
[05:36] <missegg> It said blah blah blah elementary kernel at sda1
[05:36] <root32> root32: Ok , i will check it..
[05:36] <missegg> I chose the most recent kernel at sda1
[05:36] <missegg> it booted to sda6
[05:36] <root32> Dr_Willis: Ok , i will check it..
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> may be time to read up on how grub2 works. I imagine your grub configs are  confused.  or you got 2 differnt os's messing with grub. so its not using the right configs
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> 'booted to sda6' as in.. / is now mounted to sda6 ?
[05:37] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Yes, I'm mounted on sda6
[05:38] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Like usual
[05:38] <missegg> Dr_Willis: But I wanted to boot to the clone
[05:38] <missegg> Dr_Willis: so that I could disk check, be sure they were the same, and then delete the extension and use the extra space for my primary
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> both os's have differnt UUID's now?
[05:39] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Basically I made a mistake a long time ago of only using an extension, and I couldn't get it to use the whole disk. Now I've run out of space
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> on al their partions?
[05:39] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Yes
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> id have to ssuggest trying that boot-repair tool it may notice somthing thats been overlooked
[05:40] <katti> my wirelless modem not detected in ubuntu
[05:40] <missegg> Dr_Willis: My goal is to have a normal primary partition that can use the whole disk space, minus the swap.
[05:41] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Right now I've got this fixed extension.
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> you mean 'extended' partition?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> You can resize those
[05:41] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Not without a primary
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> you need to resize the Extended, then resize the logicals in it.
[05:41] <missegg> Dr_Willis: it wouldn't let me. I came in a bunch of times asking how to do just that.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> You just have to be carefullin your clickings in gparted
[05:42] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I was told repeatedly that I needed to make a normal primary partition and use that,
[05:42] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Trust me, I tried.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> ive resized extended/logicals befor.
[05:42] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I already cloned it. I just want a normal primary.
[05:43] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I don't want to deal with a bizarre set up after a hellish time trying to resize it.
[05:44] <missegg> Dr_Willis: What is the tool I need to use
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> Ive mentioned trying 'boot-repair' several times missegg
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> it can sort out most issues
[05:44] <missegg> Dr_Willis: It's not a known package.
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> did you look at the wiki page the bot said? it gives how to install it
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:45] <missegg> okay okay
[05:45] <missegg> hold up
[05:48] <missegg> Dr_Willis: It's doing stuff.
[05:52] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Holy moly. I can restore MBR with this thing??
[05:53] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Testing brb
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> now you know why ive mentioned it several times. ;)
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> hopefully someday - t will get on the default ubuntu cds
[05:58] <missegg> Aggh
[05:58] <missegg> Dr_Willis: It didn't work
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> and what is it doing exactly?
[05:58] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I chose sda1 and yet I'm mounted at sda6
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> and if you choose sda6 ?
[05:59] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I used recommended repair
[05:59] <missegg> Dr_Willis: uh
[06:00] <missegg> Dr_Willis: sda1 even has a boot flag
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> im not sure that grub/linux cares about the boot flag
[06:01] <missegg> Dr_Willis: Well I checked it for errors as well
[06:01] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I do not understand what is wrong
[06:01] <missegg> Dr_Willis: or why it hates this partition
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> look in the /boot/grub/grub.cfg   file
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> there will be some lines  that mention   root=UUID=(YOURUUID NUMBERS)
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> if those are pointing to the wrong UUID  then that may be the issue
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> bu that file is auto-generated by the grub tools. so not sure how best to make it sort it out
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> ALSO  YOU did alter your /etc/fstab ?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> #Entry for /dev/sda1 :
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> UUID=96db155e-8d35-4766-8719-7af79fc82eac / ext4 discard,n
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> that UUID tells the system where to mount / to.
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> did you change the NEW installs UUID. or the old installs?
[06:05] <missegg> too many sentences and you're not pinging my Dr_Willis
[06:05] <missegg> hold up
[06:05] <missegg> Dr_Willis: first, the UUID is wrong it looks like
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> if your fstab is telling it to use / on the sda1   then thats what both os's will use. if their fstab is identical
[06:06] <missegg> Dr_Willis actually wait wait wait
[06:06] <dyay> Hi
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> howdys
[06:06] <varunendra> :P
[06:06] <missegg> I'm confused and you said way too much
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> reread it slowly i guess
[06:06] <missegg> I didn't touch /etc/fstab
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> fstab definds where / is at.. so sounds like thats your next step
[06:06] <missegg> I don't remember what the first thing you said was
[06:07] <missegg> You completely lost me
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> i imagine the grub files are corredt. its your fstab thats wrong
[06:07] <missegg> I haven't seen 80% of your messages
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> why not? we are the only 2 here.
[06:07] <missegg> The WHOLE CHAT is CONSTANTLY MOVING UP
[06:07] <missegg> There are new messages constantly
[06:07] <missegg> no
[06:07] <missegg> I cannot easily read your messages
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. Not for me. ;)  but you may want to figure out how to ignreo parts/joins in your client
[06:08] <missegg> You have to go at a pace that is reasonable. I don't care if it's not hard for you. Not everyone is you.
[06:08] <dyay> Can't you tilt your phone?
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  bottom line -   check/fix your /etc/fstab to point to the right uuid for /
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> I stil have to wonder what new messages.. if you mean  'bubba has joined, bubba has left' you CAN turn those off in most irc clients
[06:09] <dyay> Really?
[06:10] <dyay> Not on andchat!
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> err.. Yes you can on andchat
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> I use andchat daily for 5+ hrs a day
[06:10] <dyay> And xchat..
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> xchat - you definatly can also
[06:10] <dyay> How?
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> used that for literally decades. ;)
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> well years
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> right click on a tab/channel name..
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> its in the xchat docs/faq i imagine.
[06:10] <dyay> How you turn the messages off?
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> andchat has it in the settings
[06:11] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I'm looking at fstab
[06:11] <missegg> Dr_Willis: it says it's static information
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> xchat has a conf_mode (conferance mode)
[06:11] <missegg> Dr_Willis: It's listing the mounted partitions
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  the first line that defines /  here. mentions the UUID. you need to tell it the proper UUID for the partion you want it to mount to / when you boot up.
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  i would alter  the /etc/fstab file on both installs. to be the same. and make them both mount / on  the primary partion you made.
[06:13] <missegg> Dr_Willis: I don't think this is a config file
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> you can even use the /dev/sdXX type name instead of UUID=####   if it makes it easier to read
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> you could pastebin your /etc/fstab
[06:13] <missegg> Dr_Willis: It looks weird
[06:13] <dyay> Why my wubi ubuntu 12.04 graphics drivers from nvidia always crash after around 2-4 months?!
[06:14] <missegg> Dr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144303/
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> UUID=736c920a-1666-4edc-9e1b-9abf9e7aeaca /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> make that UUID point to the UUID of the partion you want to be /
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> what was the device you want to be / ?   sda2? or what exactly
[06:15] <missegg> Dr_Willis: sda1
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> and the UUID of sda1 is what?
[06:16] <missegg> Dr_Willis: The same, but instead of 1666 it is 1777
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> 'sudo blkid /dev/sda1' will show you
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> so.. you chante the fstab file to be                  UUID=736c920a-1777-   >the rest<
[06:17] <missegg> Dr_Willis: So I mount the clone and do the same to its fstab?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> missegg:  yes. i would do it to both
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> booting either one will  then get your / to be on  sda1
[06:18] <malkauns> how do i get facebook to work using empathy on 13.04?
[06:20] <missegg> Dr_Willis: uh... it's mounted but how do I navigate to it? pantheon-files doesn't see it
[06:22] <missegg> Dr_Willis:?
[06:22] <scrapcode> I'm getting a lot of "Upgrade will continue but ... pkg may not be in a working state......." errors while upgrading to 13.04 - What's the deal? Is this popping up a lot for others
[06:23] <missegg> brb
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> Not seen anyone else mention it scrapcode
[06:24] <varunendra> scrapcode, upgrading from what? A previous version of Ubuntu?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> but i imagine most people are either upgraded.. or waiting for 13.10
[06:25] <scrapcode> I uppped to 12.10 from 12.04 then this
[06:25] <scrapcode> Just realized it was out >_<
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> 13.04 has been out for almost 6 mo
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> 13.10 is due out  next month
[06:25] <scrapcode> It's at the "Installing the upgrades" step and has been spitting a few "Can
[06:25] <scrapcode> Can
[06:26] <scrapcode> Can't install this pkg" errors
[06:26] <scrapcode> Sorry, my keyboard is layed out weird.
[06:26] <varunendra> scrapcode, are you using PPAs?
[06:26] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: I changed fstab in sda6 but it still boots to sda1
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> change it in both?
[06:27] <scrapcode> varunendra: What's that? I am trying this one through the GUI.
[06:28] <scrapcode> Ah, shit. Just finished: "The upgrade has completed but there were errors during the upgrade process" This should end well...
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> scrapcode:  ;)
[06:28] <scrapcode> And I just downloaded Ubuntu like a week ago, and 12.04 is what it gave me
[06:28] <varunendra> scrapcode, PPAs are third party repositories, used for third party software.
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> scrapcode:  12.04 is the latest 'LTS" release
[06:28] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: I don't know how
[06:28] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: I tried mounting but I didn't know how to get to the contents
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  use the shell. and  a text editor as root (sudo  vi /the/path/to/the/other/install/etc/fstab)
[06:29] <scrapcode> varunendra: Yeah, I've added a few for some things like Code::Blocks and Spotify, Skype...
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  or nano instead of vi
[06:29] <r02922070> j
[06:29] <scrapcode> I'll be back in a minute, going to reboot.
[06:30] <SpeedFire_laptop> Hi, Someone can help me to install bumblebee under ubuntu 12.04 ?
[06:31] <ljsoftnet> SpeedFire_laptop what does bumblebee do?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> there should be some guides at askubuntu.com SpeedFire_laptop
[06:31] <SpeedFire_laptop> Its when you have 2 graphic cards on your laptop
[06:31] <ljsoftnet> two discrete or 1 integrated 1 discrete?
[06:31] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: first, vi sucks. I don't understand this. Second, permission denied.
[06:32] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: it is sudo and it is mounted
[06:32] <varunendra> missegg_, I think you wanted to boot to sda1 - "<Dr_Willis> what was the device you want to be / ?   sda2? or what exactly
 Dr_Willis: sda1"
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  what was the exact command you used?
[06:32] <missegg_> Yes
[06:32] <missegg_> sda1
[06:32] <SpeedFire_laptop> theses commands : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[06:32] <Pingu> codex, you there?
[06:33] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: I can't give you the exact one because vi behaves strangely and I hate it. I have to close terminal to get it to quit. I said sudo vi /dev/sda1/etc/fstab
[06:33] <missegg_> and got [permission denied]
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  i said you can use nano instead.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> and that command is wrong
[06:34] <varunendra> missegg_, I think it may be helpful if we can take a look at current outputs of "sudo blkid" and "cat <path to desired partition for '/'>/etc/fstab"
[06:34] <Dr_Willis>   /media/themountpoint/etc/fstab
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> not /dev/sda1
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  to close vi -> esc :q
[06:35] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: I don't understand.
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> dont understand what?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis>  /dev/sda1 is NOT a mountpoint - its a device.   you use the path to the file. not /dev/ANYTHING
[06:35] <karab44> hello
[06:35] <missegg_> JESUS
[06:36] <missegg_> I did cat /dev/sda1 and unleashed hellfire
[06:36] <missegg_> I don't understand what you want from me
[06:36] <missegg_> I don't know what the damn path is
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> we are training you in whats rather core/fundamental stuff here missegg_
[06:37] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: Core fundamental stuff is using a GUI, smartypants. 99% of the population would never consider this core.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> it may be time to read up on some bash basics.  as we said. /dev/sda1 is the 'partion'   you MOUNT a partition to a folder. ie:  /media/sda1
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  this is very very much core stuff here.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> a path is not a device.
[06:37] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: Stop being condescending. If I knew everything I wouldn't be here.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  you dont seem to be listening is the main problem. and you are expecting us to train you in  stuff you can learn from some basic guides.
[06:38] <viddy> He is not being condescending. He's trying to help you.
[06:38] <missegg_> viddy: He is doing one well and the other badly
[06:38] <varunendra> missegg_, do you have the partition mounted that you want to boot from? If yes, please show us the output of "mount" command.
[06:38] <missegg_> varunedra: I do, one sec
[06:39] <missegg_> varunendra: What should I be looking for in the output?
[06:39] <varunendra> missegg_, the "Female handle" not working anymore ? ;P
[06:40] <varunendra> missegg_, just pastebin the output, and give us its link
[06:40] <missegg_> varunedra: oh hush
[06:40] <varunendra> it'd be easier to suggest after taking a look at it
[06:40] <missegg_> kk, one sec
[06:40] <missegg_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144365/
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  so what command did you use to mount sda1 earlier?
[06:41] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: the gparted option
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> i would suggest not doing that any more. but use the cli to mount.
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> you have sda6 and sda1 BOTH mounted to /
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> some how..
[06:42] <varunendra> missegg_, please show us the outputs of "sudo blkid" also.
[06:42] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: uh
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> im not even sure how thats possible. i would 'sudo umount /dev/sda1'  and see  if it lets you do it
[06:43] <missegg_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144374/
[06:43] <missegg_> I'm magic, clearly.
[06:43] <missegg_> I've ascended past petty terminals.
[06:44] <varunendra> I've seen that the first time too, although knew it is theoretically possible..
[06:44] <missegg_> Oh God what have I done
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> varunendra:  ;)  now what one is actaually on /   heh.. best bet i would say - reboot to clean out all the weird mounts. agree?
[06:44] <missegg_> Well how was I supposed to unmount the partition I'm using?!
[06:44] <missegg_> Nobody told me to go to a live drive
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  you dont need to do it from a live drive.
[06:45] <missegg_> I'm a wizard, not a psychic.
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> you can use a live drive.. or not.
[06:45] <Daniel110> hi
[06:45] <varunendra> Dr_Willis, let's take a look at them separately first (unmount - remount on a different mount point)
[06:45] <Dr_Willis>  varunendra  yep.  if it lets that happen
[06:45] <varunendra> missegg_, now the output of "cat /etc/fstab"
[06:46] <varunendra> :P
[06:46] <Daniel110> my windows partition crashed and i can't log in, i really need to get a file saved in my windows parition i was wondering if there was a way to access it from my ubuntu parition
[06:46] <missegg_> varunendra: the output belongs to sda6
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> Daniel110:  the file manager, or cli should let you  mount windows partions and access the files
[06:46] <aeon-ltd> Daniel110: if it's mounted can you explore it?
[06:46] <missegg_> varunendra: It's the one Dr_Condescension had me edit
[06:46] <varunendra> we'll figure that out missegg_
[06:47] <missegg_> varunendra: I never edited the other one
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  i imagine very few people will jump in to help you  if you keep that up.
[06:47] <Daniel110> i never mounted a partition so i don't really know how it works
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> Daniel110:  use 'sudo blkid' to see what partion is the windows partion
[06:47] <varunendra> missegg_, just show us the output, then maybe pour yourself some coffee and get a huge sandwich, while we....
[06:48] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: I imagine very few people will jump to be helped by you if you're lecturing them about what they don't know in a support irc
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> missegg_:  your attitude is worse. good luck.
[06:48] <missegg_> Dr_Willis: not to mention rushing them with information
[06:48] <helmut_> hi
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> Howdy helmut_
[06:48] <varunendra> missegg_, output please, and change the coffee with some chilled cold drink
[06:48] <Daniel110> this is what i get http://pastebin.com/BapXMELD i pretty sure window is on sda1
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> Daniel110:  you got 3 possible windows partions. ;)  the file manager dosent show any of them at the left side of its screen?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> Daniel110:  under 'devices' ?
[06:50] <missegg_> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144383/
[06:50] <miaqinas> hi there
[06:50] <Daniel110> ohh lol thanks yeah i found it
[06:50] <missegg_> varunendra: I think I was slightly high regarding my insistence of editing it
[06:51] <missegg_> varunendra: I'm so screwed for class tomorrow
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Daniel110:  ;)  just never noticed them eh. :) now IF windows ever crashes badly - the system can refuse to mount the windows partions.
[06:52] <Daniel110> mm i see
[06:52] <manik_> Can somebody help me, I want to switch back from openbox to default after rebooting
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  just select the desktop you want to use at the login screen?
[06:52] <manik_> I don't get that window where we have to choose
[06:52] <manik_> dr_willis
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  what do you get then?
[06:53] <manik_> straight into openbox dr_willis
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  so log out..  and select the one you want?
[06:53] <shashank_rusty> hi
[06:53] <manik_> I don't get any box from where I can select
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> or disable the auto-login feature of lightdm
[06:53] <missegg_> varunendra: You there buddy?
[06:53] <varunendra> missegg_, can you successfully do - "sudo umount /dev/sda1" ?
[06:53] <manik_> hmmm, how to do that? Dr_Willis
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  alternatively  see if you got a .dmrc file   if so rename it so it uses the default
[06:54] <Daniel110> just for future references if the system refused to mount my windows files is there anything i can do to recover them?
[06:54] <missegg_> varunendra: It says it's busy
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> Daniel110:  depends on why it refuses. you can force a mount
[06:55] <varunendra> missegg_, and "sudo umount /dev/sda6" ?
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  run 'gnome-control-center
[06:55] <missegg_> varunendra: uh should I do that? I am not on a live drive
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  and disable automatic login
[06:55] <SupaSol> hello
[06:56] <varunendra> missegg_, if you are running off the same partition, it shouldn't let you unmount it anyway. But I'm not very sure..
[06:56] <miaqinas> hello
[06:56] <missegg_> varunendra: >_>
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  your .dmrc file defines your last selection from the login screen.  there should be a gear icon  to select the sessions
[06:56] <missegg_> varunendra: woah
[06:56] <missegg_> varunendra: umount: cannot unmount /dev/sda6 -- /dev/sda1 is mounted over it on the same point
[06:57] <varunendra> missegg_, that's what baffled us as well :P
[06:57] <manik_> trying
[06:58] <missegg_> varunendra: Man, this is weird. Can I just restart? Shall I boot from the usb drive?
[06:58] <varunendra> missegg_, probably the only way to make things clear is a reboot. Are you sure both sda1 and sda6 contain bootable OSes?
[06:58] <manik_> Don't have gnome-control-center here (Lubuntu) Dr_Willis
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  no idea what the lubuntu equilivent is.
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> what desktop are you wanting to ise manik_ ?
[06:59] <missegg_> varunendra: Well I don't know for sure with sda1, since it always boots to sda6 anyway
[06:59] <manik_> there must be a keyboard shortcut just after booting to bring that window, no? Dr_Willis
[06:59] <varunendra> missegg_, please wait a min..
[06:59] <missegg_> varunendra: But it has no errors and it appears to be a perfect clone
[06:59] <missegg_> oh
[06:59] <missegg_> ok
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  not really. You have the loginmanager set to auto login.
[06:59] <manik_> LXDE and Openbox Dr_Willis
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  you can change/rename your .dmrc file and it should go back to the system default
[07:00] <manik_> where should that file be? Dr_Willis
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  in your home directory with all the other . (dot) files
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  'mv .dmrc  backup.dmrc'  to rename it
[07:01] <varunendra> missegg_, a clone? I forgot that. Probably booting into a live session is a good idea. Other partitions won't mount automatically in it.
[07:01] <varunendra> missegg_, reboot with the USB, and let us know..
[07:02] <missegg_> varunendra: Yes. That's alright, I understand. i will be right back on the live drive.
[07:03] <nefsation> some one can help me with port forwarding
[07:03] <nefsation> ?
[07:04] <manik_> can't even open that now. Could you tell me its exact command to open the folder? (Sorry) Dr_Willis
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  its a file.
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  'mv .dmrc  backup.dmrc'   will rename the file
[07:05] <manik_> just that command? Dr_Willis
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> yes...
[07:05] <manik_> already did that
[07:05] <manik_> Should try and exit now Dr_Willis
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> so cat backup.dmrc    will show what was in it.  :) 2 lines i imagine
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> what desktop are you wanting to use anyway?
[07:06] <manik_> LXDE which is there in Lubuntu by default
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> yep. it should seelct that as the default
[07:06] <manik_> somehow I entered Openbox, and couldn't go back
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> disable auto login - its annoying. :)
[07:06] <missegg> Help, I'm exhausted
[07:07] <manik_> :)
[07:07] <missegg> varunendra
[07:07] <varunendra> missegg, so you're on live usb now?
[07:07] <missegg> varunendra: Yessir
[07:08] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[07:08] <varunendra> missegg, now please post the output of "sudo blkid" once more (the sda1, 2... may change in live session)
[07:08] <missegg> varunendra: I just want my computer to boot to sda1 so I can make sure it works, expand it, and get rid of sda6
[07:08] <Wiz_KeeD> I have two monitors in Ubuntu and I would like to setup a shortcut to move one application from a monitor to the other
[07:08] <manik_> Got it. Thanks, Dr_Willis!
[07:08] <Wiz_KeeD> I have used compizconfig in the past, is that the way to go?
[07:08] <missegg> varunendra: Yessir
[07:09] <varunendra> missegg, from your previous output, it looked to me as if it is already booting from sda1
[07:09] <missegg> varunendra: It did not, I mounted sda1
[07:10] <missegg> varunendra: and I was using data that was not on sda1
[07:10] <varunendra> lets see the output then missegg
[07:10] <sgo11> I am not sure how I can call the screen shown by pressing "Start" or "Alt+F1" button. is that possible to launch that screen through command line? thanks.
[07:10] <missegg> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144440/
[07:10] <sgo11> oh, I forgot to mention. I am using gnome3.
[07:11] <missegg> sgo11: Go to gnome for gnome questions
[07:12] <varunendra> missegg, please run Gparted and assign a label (like "part-6") to sda6, so that it can be easily identified.
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> sgo11:  you may want to look at the gnome-shell extensions if thats what you are using.  theres lots of added stuff you can do
[07:13] <missegg> varunendra: Done
[07:14] <varunendra> missegg, now close gparted, and see if you see two different partitions "Primary" and "<whatever you named the other>".
[07:14] <varunendra> in the file manager
[07:14] <sgo11> Dr_Willis, I don't think I need gnome-shell extension. thanks.
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> sgo11:  perhaps find a list of gnomeshell shortcuts then? ;) i tried gnomeshell for a few weeks and gave up on it. ;P
[07:15] <missegg> varunendra: I do
[07:16] <sgo11> let me try another question or way. is that possible to simulate a key press event in command line? I just want to write a script which can do the same thing when I press "start" button. thanks.
[07:16] <varunendra> missegg, what is the name of the other (for clarity)?
[07:16] <missegg> varunendra: sda6 is Old Blood, sda1 is New Blood
[07:16] <missegg> Don't laugh
[07:16] <sgo11> Dr_Willis, I knew the shortcut. "Start" button or "Alt+F1" are doing the same thing. I just want to trigger that event with a command. thanks. :)
[07:17] <varunendra> missegg, I already did, and continuing... anyway, click the "Old Blood" to see its contents. Does it have an "etc" folder?
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> sgo11:  its all in javascript.  If you are a java-scripting ninja perhaps.
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[07:17] <missegg> sgo11: in gparted?
[07:18] <missegg> varunendra: in gparted?
[07:18] <missegg> sgo11: disregard me
[07:18] <sgo11> Dr_Willis, I can do javascripting. but not sure how to achieve that in gnome. I will try gnome channel. thanks. :)
[07:18] <varunendra> missegg, close gparted. Open the file manager (which is Nautilus I assume)
[07:18] <sgo11> missegg, :)
[07:19] <missegg> varunendra: Shouldn't I mount them both?
[07:19] <varunendra> missegg, not yet
[07:19] <missegg> varunendra: NVM
[07:19] <manik_> Anybody here could tell why LXDE goes back to the default wallpaper after a reboot?
[07:20] <varunendra> missegg, we want to verify the contents separately. That's the whole point of booting live
[07:20] <peeps> hello, i have installed a dual boot of windows on my computer and now I can't get back into ubuntu.  i tried running "boot repair" but it doesn't seem to work
[07:20] <missegg> varunendra: I know I know I said nevermind
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  first guess. some ofyour setting files in your users home - are accidently owned by root. so the user can set the setting. but not write the changes to the file
[07:20] <missegg> varunendra: am I pastebinning?
[07:20] <varunendra> missegg, the contents? No.
[07:20] <missegg> varunendra: Well, I've got it open
[07:21] <varunendra> missegg, if there is the "etc" dir, pastebin the "fstab" file in it. (from Old Blood)
[07:21] <missegg> varunendra:  I just asked that... okay
[07:21] <manik_> Dr_Willis Goes like this since installing the OS.
[07:22] <qin_> sgo11: xdotolls yuo after?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  test with a newly made user.. or look at the settings files.
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  or both. ;)
[07:23] <sgo11> qin_, thanks. i am installing xdotools
[07:23] <missegg> varunendra:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144465/
[07:23] <sgo11> qin_, "xdotool key Alt+F1" works very well. thanks.
[07:23] <git-user> This is a new laptop that came with Ubuntu pre-installed. I enabled security repository and updated linux-image-generic and linux-headers-generic, but I got an "Bad return status for module build on kernel" error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144468/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144464/
[07:23] <manik_> hehe okay Dr_Willis
[07:24] <varunendra> missegg, now unmount this partition (click on the "Eject" button) > mount the "New Blood" and pastebin the "etc/fstab" from that one.
[07:24] <miaqinas> peeps> hello, i have installed a dual boot of windows on my computer and now I can't get back into ubuntu.  i tried running "boot repair" but it doesn't seem to work
[07:24] <zexcriz> when ever i am installing any softwares i am getting this error ->  Erros were encoutered while processing : man-db cups, hplip, hplip-gui.
[07:24] <varunendra> missegg, NVM ;P
[07:25] <miaqinas> * peeps has quit (Client Quit)
[07:25] <missegg> varunendra:  They both automounted anyway
[07:25] <zexcriz> any help it's been more than week but no solution yet :(
[07:26] <missegg> varunendra:  -1777- is New Blood's uuid
[07:26] <auscompgeek> miaqinas: sounds like you need to fix grub
[07:26] <auscompgeek> !dualboot
[07:26] <wilee-nilee> miaqinas, You save the bootinfo summary url?
[07:27] <miaqinas> no..
[07:27] <wilee-nilee> miaqinas, Is the windows install W8?
[07:27] <root32> i installed ubuntu 12.4 , but when start Say : Error Load operating system.. , why ?
[07:27] <varunendra> missegg, and you want to boot from sda1? Not (read "Never") from sda6?
[07:28] <auscompgeek> root32: could you send us the exact error message you get?
[07:28] <missegg> varunendra:  uuh
[07:28] <missegg> varunendra: I want to boot from sda1
[07:28] <miaqinas> no..i dint installing W8
[07:28] <auscompgeek> zexcriz: tried apt-get -f ?
[07:28] <missegg> varunendra: but I still want to be able to check it agains sda6
[07:28] <auscompgeek> miaqinas: take a look at the first link ubottu sent above
[07:29] <miaqinas> k thank you very much
[07:29] <wilee-nilee> miaqinas, run the bootinfo summary in the bootrepair app only and post the url that is made to it.
[07:29] <missegg> varunendra: there was a small error when I was cloning. i checked the disk, but I still want to be 100% sure it's a good clone
[07:30] <varunendra> missegg, do you have both the partitions mounted? We need to edit or swap both the fstab files.
[07:30] <missegg> varunendra: yess
[07:31] <varunendra> missegg, close the file manager, and open it as root (gksu nautilus).
[07:31] <missegg> varunendra: yessir
[07:31] <root32> auscompgeek: Sorry , it Say : Missing Operating System..
[07:31] <missegg> varunendra: next?
[07:31] <miaqinas> so..to make dual OS..need a make partitiona 1st?
[07:31] <git-user> sorry, got disconnected, say again.
[07:32] <git-user> others are facing similar problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/330979/wireless-adapter-connection-error
[07:32] <varunendra> missegg, now browse to one fstab, cut-paste it to the desktop > browse to the other > cut-paste it to where the first was > move the desktop one to the second one's location.
[07:32] <varunendra> missegg, so that both are swapped
[07:32] <missegg> varunendra: Why am I doing that?
[07:33] <varunendra> missegg, because each one needs to reflect the UUID of the partition it is on.
[07:33] <zexcriz> auscompgeek,  apt-get -f ? what should i do ?
[07:33] <miaqinas> Installing Ubuntu after Windows..i got it..thanks
[07:34] <varunendra> missegg, currently, both are mounting the other partition, not the one they themselves are on.
[07:34] <root32> After the ubuntu install error message : Missing Operating System :(
[07:35] <auscompgeek> root32: you'll have do a boot repair
[07:35] <missegg> varunendra: It is done my liege
[07:35] <auscompgeek> zexcriz: open a terminal and type in sudo apt-get -f
[07:35] <auscompgeek> zexcriz: hopefully that'll fix things
[07:35] <root32> auscompgeek: how to do it?
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> root32:  could be you are booting the wrong hard drive. or need to use that boot-repair tool to fix it
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> root32:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[07:36] <SpeedFire_laptop> a boot repair ? why ?
[07:36] <varunendra> missegg, now reboot with the hard disk this time, don't mount any partitions after booting, and check if "sda1" is mounted ("mount" command). I assume only sda6 will mount, which we'll fix then
[07:37] <missegg> varunendra: Do I attempt to boot to sda1?
[07:37] <missegg> varunendra: or do I let it go to sda6
[07:37] <varunendra> missegg, do you get the grub menu?
[07:38] <missegg> varunendra: Always have
[07:38] <varunendra> missegg, do you have the other one listed already?
[07:38] <zexcriz> auscompgeek, sudo apt-get -f does nothing, it's an uncomplete command.
[07:38] <missegg> varunendra: Yes
[07:38] <zexcriz> s/uncomplete/incomplete
[07:38] <usr13> missegg: Shift Key
[07:38] <varunendra> missegg, then go ahead, boot the one on sda1
[07:38] <missegg> varunendra: I try to choose sda1 but it never goes to it
[07:39] <missegg> varunendra: It always boots to sda6 as normal
[07:39] <varunendra> missegg, this time it should
[07:39] <missegg> varunendra: okay
[07:39] <missegg> brb
[07:42]  * Dr_Willis hands varunendra  a cookie
[07:42]  * varunendra desperately needed it ;P
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> varunendra:  this is going on like 6 hrs now.
[07:43] <varunendra> Dr_Willis, height of expectations sometimes.. :)
[07:43] <missegg> Ugh
[07:44] <missegg> Being Egg is suffering
[07:44] <varunendra> missegg, fresh output of mount? Any better?
[07:44] <missegg> varunendra: no
[07:44] <missegg> varunendra: Exactly the same as it's been for the past four hours
[07:44] <varunendra> missegg, let's see it then
[07:45] <missegg> varunendra: It's sda6
[07:45] <missegg> varunendra: I have to sleep
[07:46] <varunendra> missegg, Please do - "sudo update-grub", then reboot (I hate to say that word, but..) and try booting to the other one (sda6)
[07:46] <varunendra> ohsosoft, okay missegg
[07:46] <missegg> varunendra: okay okay
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> I would just use super grub to see if sda1 boots it had an error in the copy.
[07:46] <varunendra> ohsosoft, sorry, didn't mean you
[07:47] <missegg> wilee-nilee: Hm?
[07:47] <missegg> wilee-nilee: I thought it might have, but I checked it for errors
[07:47] <missegg> brb rebooting
[07:48] <wilee-nilee> missegg, Has sda1 ever booted yet?
[07:48] <missegg> wilee-nilee: No
[07:48] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, if they never did an "update-grub", I would think it is all normal behaviour, the sda1 listing in grub menu could be a result of messed up fstab.
[07:48] <missegg> I did update-grub multiple times
[07:48] <varunendra> missegg, once more :)
[07:49] <missegg> ok.
[07:49] <missegg> brb
[07:49] <wilee-nilee> sure, but an easy check by manually booting it or using super grub to it would answer a few questions, if it boot load grub to the mbr from its desktop and confirm the fstab.
[07:49] <wilee-nilee> boots*
[07:50] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, perhaps the next, probably the last recommendation would be boot-repair? I think it can easily fix it all.
[07:51] <varunendra> although I may attempt doing it manually with "grub-install"
[07:51] <varunendra> from live session
[07:51] <wilee-nilee> yeah might do it, clones in the same HD are a tough one, even if you change the uuid, we have to assume that change worked right.
[07:51] <missegg_> Nope nope nope
[07:52] <missegg_> tears for Egg, tears eternal
[07:52] <varunendra> missegg_, mount shows both sda1 and sda6 mounted? or just sda6?
[07:52] <missegg_> varunendraL
[07:53] <missegg_> varunendra: the same as the last four freaking hours
[07:53] <missegg_> varunendra: just sda1
[07:53] <missegg_> varunendra: just sda6
[07:53] <missegg_> varunendra: I meant 6
[07:53] <varunendra> missegg_, I'm confused. Only sda6, right? That's expected
[07:54] <missegg_> varunendra: JUST SDA6
[07:54] <missegg_> varunendra: EVEN THOUGH I CHOSE SDA1
[07:54] <missegg_> varunendra: AND WANT SDA1
[07:55] <varunendra> missegg_, forget what your current grub menu tells you. We only need to make sure only one partitions is mounted which it currently is..
[07:55] <varunendra> now the rest of the things should be easy..
[07:55] <missegg_> varunendra: THERE IS BUT ONE
[07:56] <missegg_> varunendra: it's definitely and absolutely sda6
[07:56] <wilee-nilee> missegg_, Have you run sudo update-grub from the original sda^?
[07:56] <wilee-nilee> sda6*
[07:56] <missegg_> wilee-nilee: Many many times
[07:56] <missegg_> wilee-nilee: As I said earlier
[07:56] <wilee-nilee> missegg_, It is reading the same grub info from sda1 I think
[07:57] <missegg_> This is stupid. Why is it so damn hard to create a new partition, put an OS on it, and boot to it
[07:57] <varunendra> missegg_, let's just reinstall grub, with correct config this time (hopefully)
[07:58] <missegg_> varunendra: I did that earlier and it did nothing
[07:58] <varunendra> missegg_, how did you do it? And earlier, your fstab wasn't correct as far as I know
[07:58] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, I would chroot sda1 and purge and reload grub and then its bootloader to the mbr
[07:59] <missegg_> varunendra: with boot-repair like Dr_Willis said
[07:59] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, how about "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/<mountpoint of sda1> sda" ??
[08:00] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, Might work, if not I would purge it, persoanlly I would do it all since you would be chrooted in is all.
[08:00] <varunendra> missegg_, please open the file manager and confirm that "New Blood" is not already mounted.
[08:00] <perpustakaanfibu> gjhfh
[08:00] <missegg_> For some reason New Blood is mounted now
[08:00] <perpustakaanfibu> gfjhfgjhfgjh
[08:00] <varunendra> missegg_, already?
[08:00] <missegg_> After running boot-repair, yeah
[08:01] <missegg_> I can actually go to its directory now
[08:01] <missegg_> It's not doing something crazy like earlier
[08:01] <varunendra> missegg_, I would think that it corrected it now.
[08:01] <varunendra> since the fstab is fixed
[08:01] <missegg_> varunendra: So now what
[08:02] <varunendra> reboot to check, if not fixed yet, we'll do it manually
[08:02] <missegg_> uuuuuuuuugh
[08:02] <missegg_> brb
[08:03] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, I've never tried chroot, so it just scares me ;P
[08:04] <varunendra> although theoretically it seems the perfect remedy
[08:04] <tiffany22> Hi there, can somebody help me please. I have serious problem with my browsers
[08:05] <lkthomas> hey guys, is there have any program help to connect cifs or nfs ?
[08:06] <varunendra> !details | tiffany22
[08:06] <tiffany22> ok, so facebook and youtube render weird.. like it's only text, no images or CSS styles
[08:06] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, Yeah, I use this when I chroot it has one all in one command #8 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[08:06] <tiffany22> same problem on both Chrome and Firefox
[08:07] <tiffany22> some other sites work ok, some have same problem
[08:07] <lkthomas> unity seem not that user friendly
[08:08] <teeenooo> What would Jesus do if my kernel crashed?
[08:08] <wilee-nilee> lkthomas, It's not the same as gnome 2 is all.
[08:08] <wilee-nilee> pray
[08:08] <lkthomas> wilee-nilee: tools is not enough
[08:09]  * lkthomas go ahead to install KDE instead
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> lkthomas:  cifs = samba shares right? Nautilus has the connect to server.... feature  and can browse windows shares here
[08:09] <teeenooo> wilee-nilee: Why would he pray??
[08:09] <lkthomas> Dr_Willis: not work against active directory login
[08:09] <wilee-nilee> lkthomas, Not sure what you mean, but use what works for you, I use the shell with a dock and synapse.
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive ever used actve directory on my home lan. ;)
[08:09] <lkthomas> ha
[08:10] <missegg> I am in the same fucking place I was four hours ago but with four hours less sleep to show for it
[08:10] <teeenooo> missegg: Issue?
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> gnome-shells   gnome-2 classic mode thing. in 13.10 - isent too bad a change from good old gnome2(ick) ;P
[08:11] <tiffany22> can somebody tell me how to fix my problem with sites rendering without images?
[08:11] <teeenooo> Oh that's easy!
[08:12] <teeenooo> Fix your Apache server or fix your URL link to those images
[08:12] <tiffany22> what? how am i supposed to fix my url to all images on facebook?
[08:13] <teeenooo> Oh
[08:14] <teeenooo> That's a ssl issue, look into that
[08:14] <missegg> Varunendra
[08:14] <missegg> Varunendra I'm dead
[08:14] <tiffany22> SSL Issue? what's that?
[08:14] <varunendra> missegg, yup. I can feel that ;)
[08:14] <missegg> Varunendra I'm going to jump off a building
[08:14] <varunendra> missegg, so wanna try more or break for now?
[08:15] <varunendra> missegg, hope you brushed the teeth in the meanwhile..
[08:15] <tiffany22> This is how most sites look in my browsers http://i.imgur.com/bTArshd.png
[08:15] <missegg> Varunendra: I will just have to deal with a 99% full partition
[08:16] <missegg> Varunendra: Because this is like the sixth fucking time I've come to this channel and wasted hours and hours getting absolutely no farther on this
[08:16] <wilee-nilee> tiffany22, same in firefox?
[08:16] <aeon-ltd> missegg: what's the problem?
[08:16] <IdleOne> !language | missegg
[08:16] <varunendra> missegg, if you want to take a break, I'd suggest to post a thread in ubuntuforums.org and post all the details there. Sometimes a fresh mind can do miracles, and a tired one can do 'different' kind of miracles.. ;P
[08:16] <aeon-ltd> missegg: you should post on the forum if you don't want to use up too much time
[08:16] <tiffany22> wilee-nilee: yes :(
[08:16] <missegg> IdleOne when families actually go to IRC channels I will care more
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> tiffany22, Has it been this way from the beginning, what caused it do you know?
[08:17] <IdleOne> missegg: I understand you are frustrated but that is no reason to use bad language, not to mention it is part of the guidelines of the channel.
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> it's not families it's <18 in general, plus anyone can find it offensive
[08:17] <varunendra> missegg, ubuntu has it's culture nonetheless
[08:18] <tiffany22> wilee-nilee: no, it was working okay for several months, it started happening few days ago
[08:18] <missegg> It's 4am, culture has left me.
[08:18] <aeon-ltd> missegg: what's the problem again?
[08:18] <varunendra> missegg, so a break or try more right now?
[08:18] <wilee-nilee> tiffany22, Make a new user and see if it is the same there.
[08:18] <tiffany22> wilee-nilee: okay
[08:19] <varunendra> aeon-ltd, cloned a root partition, can't boot into the desired one now, that's all with missegg
[08:19] <missegg> aeon-ltd: I installed Ubuntu. i installed eOS (ubuntu with another DE) on an extended partition. I liked that better. I used it instead. I deleted the old one. I tried to expand it to the whole disk. I was told that was impossible. i cloned it to a new primary. I can't boot to the primary
[08:20] <smallcat> hello
[08:21] <ikonia> missegg: sadly we don't support eOS here
[08:21] <aeon-ltd> missegg: why not just start partitioning again, but this time just migrate data by copying the files you need instead of cloning?
[08:21] <ikonia> missegg: so your clonding/re-setup of Eos will need to be handled by their support resources please.
[08:21] <aeon-ltd> missegg: also does grub show no options then?
[08:21] <missegg> aeon-ltd: Grub shows it
[08:22] <missegg> aeon-ltd: I select it, it boots to sda6 anyway
[08:22] <ikonia> guys, please take it to a private chat session or to the eOS support channels
[08:23] <missegg> ikonia: Shut the fuck up. They are the same damn operating system. I did not spend four hours hear for you to whine incessantly about a trivial detail.
[08:23] <aeon-ltd> missegg: besides manual copying post reinstall i can't think of a cleaner way to do this right now
[08:23] <aeon-ltd> being an asshole doesn't help
[08:23] <aeon-ltd> oh
[08:23] <ikonia> aeon-ltd: easy there, he's gone now
[08:24]  * cfhowlett ... thinks "Dang it!  Missed all the fun ... again!"
[08:24] <tiffany22> wilee-nilee: it doesn't work on other account
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> tiffany22, Hmm, we have had kernel updates lately, have you tried an earlier kernel from the grub menu?
[08:25] <dejanfc> hi, does anyone know of a good web based frontend for openssl?
[08:25] <tiffany22> wilee-nilee: no.. should this help?
[08:25] <ikonia> dejanfc: front end for openssl ? what do you mean ?
[08:25] <dejanfc> to issue certs
[08:25] <dejanfc> instead of typing it out in cli
[08:25] <ikonia> no, but you may want to try #openssl
[08:26] <dejanfc> cheers
[08:26] <wilee-nilee> tiffany22, It's hard to say, some info that may of caused it would help me, I have to some what guess since you are getting some of the web page.
[08:26] <tiffany22> wilee-nilee: I just noticed that same thing is happening on my android
[08:27] <tiffany22> wilee-nilee: could this be cause by some problems from ISP?
[08:27] <wilee-nilee> tiffany22, we had a flash update lately as well, but that was chrome you showed it has its own flash. Hard to say about the ISP.
[08:30] <auscompgeek> zexcriz: oops. sudo apt-get install -f
[08:30] <auscompgeek> zexcriz: sorry about that, got sidetracked with other stuff
[08:32] <zexcriz> auscompgeek, even executing those command i am getting the same error.
[08:33] <zexcriz> any experienced ubuntu user ? i can't find any way to solve this :(
[08:34] <auscompgeek> zexcriz: what were you installing the first time you started getting these messages?
[08:34] <pop_> Hi.. I just had my ubuntu server crashed.. It was completely stuck so I had to do hardware reset.. Now when I check the logs, there is nothing there... Actually it looks like it crashed while writing to log because there is half written log data (half line of data and it continues with with another entry!) in many log files..!
[08:35] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|pop_,
[08:35] <zexcriz> auscompgeek, don't remember exactly as this is the error i am getting from over a month.
[08:35] <irssi-mike> pop_: did it run out of space
[08:35] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, the command is sudo apt-get -f install but have you changed the sources.list at all in this?
[08:36] <pop_> irssi-mike: No, there should be 50+ gigabytes space still
[08:36] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, What ubuntu release is it, as well?
[08:36] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, i have not changed anything. i am using ubuntu 13.04
[08:36] <zexcriz> in sources.list
[08:37] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, run sudo apt-get update and pastebin all of it/
[08:37] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, sudo apt--get update goes fine no errors in it.
[08:38] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, So it is a specific install right, which is? is there a ppa involved?
[08:38] <Ben64> zexcriz: pastebin it anyway
[08:38] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, even not using any specific ppa.
[08:39] <zexcriz> ok
[08:39] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, so run sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin all of it.
[08:39] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, ok doing it
[08:44] <grammoboy> I cant install packages http://fpaste.org/41464/92583513/
[08:44] <zexcriz> http://dpaste.com/1392566/
[08:44] <zexcriz> Ben64, wilee-nilee ^
[08:45] <param> how to add user hduser (hadoop user) into sudoers file
[08:45] <wilee-nilee> grammoboy, seems important, "No space left on device"
[08:45] <ikonia> grammoboy: you're out of disk space
[08:45] <Gentoo64> param: to allow root use?
[08:45] <param> yes probably
[08:45] <cfhowlett> grammoboy, time to clean up.  sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove should help
[08:45] <grammoboy> ikonia: http://fpaste.org/41465/99259361/
[08:46] <Gentoo64> param: you could add it to the wheel group
[08:46] <param> i got the error : hduser is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[08:46] <param> i was trying to edit a file in etc
[08:46] <cfhowlett> grammoboy, yep.  you've definitely filled that HDD!
[08:46] <ikonia> grammoboy: yes, no space there
[08:47] <ikonia> Gentoo64: it's not the wheel group
[08:47] <grammoboy> heh where do you see 100%?
[08:47] <param> can you please tel me the command to add this hduser into sudoers
[08:47] <Gentoo64> ikonia: ok
[08:47] <ikonia> grammoboy:look at the %96 - and how much space is left
[08:47] <ikonia> param: the "sudo" gropu
[08:47] <ikonia> group
[08:47] <Gentoo64> normally wheel will let you
[08:47] <ikonia> no
[08:47] <Ben64> Gentoo64: not on ubuntu
[08:47] <param> wheel ?
[08:48] <Gentoo64> no thats why i said normally
[08:48] <ikonia> Gentoo64: have you looked at the sudoers file in ubuntu ?
[08:48] <Ben64> then why even say it here?
[08:48] <ikonia> param: add the user to the "sudo" group
[08:48] <param> how to add it ?
[08:48] <cfhowlett> grammoboy, 96% + system reserved by ubuntu of about 5% = 101%
[08:48] <ikonia> param: user the user admin gui
[08:48] <param> is tht the comand ?
[08:49] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, the info in the dist-upgrade should be helpful, I'm not quite sure how to read that and offer help. My wonder is how and where that broken stuff came from.
[08:50] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, it's been quite long time i am facing this prob.
[08:50] <zexcriz> the prob is with the man-db package
[08:51] <zexcriz> if i remove it everything works fine
[08:51] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, What was the original install, and where is it from?
[08:51] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, can't get you ?
[08:52] <Han> Can somebody turn on http://doc.ubuntu.com again? :P
[08:52] <cfhowlett> Han, http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://doc.ubuntu.com
[08:52] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, this stuff, you have 6 broken packages. /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/File.pm
[08:53] <wilee-nilee> whatever that is attached to, I don't recognize exactly what it is, whatever you removed did not get everything is my guess,
[08:55] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, I'm not sure what you mean by "if i remove it everything works fine" this happens then when you try a install of the same thing again?
[08:55] <Han> cfhowlett, you tell me something which I already know. It's down.
[08:55] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, when i am install man-db packages probs are created
[08:55] <zexcriz> then i can't install even a single package.
[08:55] <grammoboy> chicken egg problem http://fpaste.org/41467/79926542/
[08:56] <zexcriz> but after removing it atleast i can install and remove the packaged though the errors remain.
[08:56] <oaulakh> how to install nvidia driver
[08:56] <oaulakh> ?
[08:56] <cfhowlett> !nvidia|oaulakh,
[08:56] <zexcriz> grammoboy, may be your / partition is full ?
[08:56] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, Ah, I have never messed with that I rarely use man, so just not sure.
[08:57] <cfhowlett> zexcriz, tis.  trying to clean it out ...
[08:57] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, even i have not messed with it, but when i started getting errors, i figured out that by removing man-db i can atleast install stuff.
[08:57] <cfhowlett> grammoboy, are you dual booting ?
[08:58] <grammoboy> don t think so
[08:58] <cfhowlett> grammoboy, does this computer also run windows?
[08:58] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, Wish I could figure it out, I gotta crash, hope you get it resolved.
[08:58] <grammoboy> no why?
[08:59] <varunendra> grammoboy, please show us the output of  "df -h"
[08:59] <cfhowlett> grammoboy, would have suggested you repartition to add some space but since you don't ...
[09:00] <grammoboy> http://fpaste.org/41465/99259361/
[09:00] <cfhowlett> grammoboy, this is going to sound crazy but ... are you running fedora?
[09:00] <grammoboy> that sounds crazy
[09:01] <grammoboy> come on guys, ive a full disk but cant use autoremove
[09:01] <grammoboy> chicken egg that is
[09:01] <cfhowlett> grammoboy, that doesn't answer the question.  your paste says "fedora" so ... are you running fedora?
[09:01] <ikonia> grammoboy: "clean down the disk"
[09:02] <ikonia> grammoboy: look at what's using the space, clear it down, exeand the partition,
[09:02] <param> problem solved thanks :)
[09:03] <eleasar221> I am using Sony VAIO VPCEB24EN laptop. After installing Ubuntu 12.04 or Lubuntu 13.04 my laptop CPU makes a terrible noise.
[09:03] <eleasar221> Please advise how to fix this.
[09:04] <cfhowlett> eleasar22, lubricate the fan?
[09:04] <cfhowlett> eleasar22, for the record, cpu's don't make audible noise under normal circumstances ...
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> unless you got uber hearing and can hear the electrons zipping around? ;)
[09:05] <eleasar221>  @cfhowlett: no boss
[09:05] <varunendra> Dr_Willis, or unless it is cracking with heat.. :P
[09:06] <zippo^> why has ubuntu 12.04 installed little theme's as Radiance , Ambiance?
[09:06] <zippo^> I want Human theme too
[09:06] <eleasar221> @cfhowlett: cpu making noise after installing lubuntu but no noise when using windows 7
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> eleasar221:  now the cpu or video FAN running at high speed - is a common bug in linux.
[09:07] <varunendra> eleasar221, what is your graphics card. Is everything performing nicely other than the sound?
[09:09] <cfhowlett> eleasar221, cpu's don't make noise within the range of human hearing ...
[09:09] <eleasar221> @varunendra: ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5145 Graphics
[09:10] <eleasar221> @varunendra: any advise please? Graphics card : ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5145 Graphics
[09:10] <eleasar221> Thanks cfhowlett
[09:10] <varunendra> eleasar221, not very familiar with graphics drivers, but I think the proprietary fglrx drivers work better than the native radeon driver (or it's the opposite of it)
[09:11] <cfhowlett> !ati
[09:11] <varunendra> eleasar221, are you using the proprietary driver for it?
[09:11] <Soul_Sample> well, that's the case usually. i get really high temperatures when using anything but the proprietary driver
[09:12] <eleasar221> @varunendra: no
[09:12] <varunendra> eleasar221, probably the link cfhowlett gave can offer better help than I can, but does "Additional Drivers" program offer any proprietary driver for it?
[09:14] <varunendra> eleasar221, see Soul_Sample 's testimony for the proprietary drivers (although it is not 'always' the case with everything) ;)
[09:15] <fotoport-1> i need help
[09:15] <eleasar221> ok varunendra..thanks
[09:15] <Soul_Sample> lol testimony :D but yeah, I can cook on my laptop before installing fglrx
[09:15] <varunendra> np :)
[09:16] <kk_> hi
[09:16] <kk_> test
[09:16] <kk_> test for first chat
[09:16] <kk_> never
[09:16] <cfhowlett> eleasar221, choose your battles.  Sounds like 2 issues are in play;  the fan is running long & loud and the graphics driver may be wrong.  Those 2 problems have been observed to occur together.  First see to your graphics.  That might fix the fan issue.
[09:16] <fotoport-1> on all versions starting with 11, two and a printer attached to one computer do not print. Printing stops when you send a job to the second printer. Printers epson T50 . I put ubuntu 11.04 11.10  12.04 Ubuntu Saucy Salamander 13.10. yesterday tried to run on 12.04  /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf     blacklist usblp   did not work and divided into groups
[09:17] <cfhowlett> !test|kk_, yes we see you.
[09:17] <kk_> many thanks
[09:18] <eleasar221> Okay cfhowlett. I will check.. Thank u so much
[09:18] <cfhowlett> eleasar221, take your time and follow the steps.  I suspect it's an easy, if difficult to localize, fix.
[09:20] <eleasar221> Sure cfhowlett.. Thanks
[09:23] <fotoport-1> somebody help me?
[09:24] <mooperd> What is the current Ubuntu kernel?
[09:24] <mooperd> is the main release on 3.1 yet?
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> 13.10  has 3.11.0-7-generic  I dont think 13.04 has  that new a kenrel. yet. ;)
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> mooperd: what is the 'main release'?
[09:31] <mooperd> ActionParsnip: er 13.04 I guess?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> mooperd: thats just the latest stable, nothing 'main' about it
[09:32] <IdleOne> 13.04 is using 3.8.0-31
[09:32] <mooperd> IdleOne: Slightly more advanced than the redhat folks then
[09:33] <user258467> Hi, when I try to add a printer via General Settings interface I have a blank interface and I can't add anything like I have not the permissions what can I do?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> user258467: http://localhost:631
[09:33] <user258467> ActionParsnip, works like a charm
[09:34] <cfhowlett> fotoport-1,^^^^ see that link for your needs as well.
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> user258467: old school
 ,I do not see the link
[09:39] <cfhowlett> http://localhost:631
[09:40] <muindor> hey all
[09:41] <cfhowlett> muindor, greetings
[09:41] <fotoport-1> cfhowlett, this administration. That there?
[09:42] <cfhowlett> fotoport-1, yep.  add your printers again and test
[09:42] <firstroad> hi
[09:42] <muindor> have some kind of problem with installing ubuntu server. got an ibm hardware server here for testing. i set up the raid in bios (lsi megaraid) by setting device options from ide to raid and created a raid 1. now after doing this and trying to boot from the cd, it just kicks me right into some grub shell instead of the usual menue (install ubuntu, install in expert mode etc). im not sure how to go on from this grub shell now
[09:42] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|muindor,
[09:43] <firstroad> i have a netbook (toshiba nb200 13j) and its card reader is not working? any advice?
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> firstroad:  on my older netbooks - i had to pass a kernel option to get the readers working.
[09:44] <Dr_Willis> firstroad:  id check askubuntu.com for the exact make/model and se eif others have had the same issue
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> firstroad:  sadly with mine. I had to have a sd card in at boot time for it to read it. It couldent/wouldent read it if i later removed/reinserted it. (not tried that netbook lately however)
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> firstroad: reboot with an SD card out of the system, log in and let the OS settle. push in an SD card, wait 5 seconds and run:  dmesg | tail -n 10    do you see messages reflecting a reaction by the OS?
[09:51] <jeetpei> Helloo all
[09:51] <cfhowlett> jeetpei, greetings
[09:52] <zippo^> has someone expierence that firefox via www.mozilla.com install on ubuntu without ppa or software center?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> firstroad: also, make sure the BIOS is up to date
[09:52] <cfhowlett> zippo^, NO idea what you're talking about ...
[09:52] <cfhowlett> !details|zippo^,
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> zippo^: i've installed using the downloaded file from mozilla.com etc
[09:53] <jeetpei> i want to create a script which create a number of files suppose 1.txt 2.txt and should have input such as 1.txt have One and 2.txt have Two ?
[09:53] <jeetpei> any idea ?
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[09:53] <zippo^> cfhowlett, : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion/MozillaBuilds
[09:53] <jeetpei> cfhowlett : any idea
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> jeetpei: so the file has a list of file names to create?
[09:54] <zippo^> I did firefox on /opt and /usr/bin. it works great. but must I do more setting, ActionParsnip ?
[09:54] <cfhowlett> zippo^, ah, so this is to install FIREFOX  not ubunut.
[09:54] <jeetpei> ActionParsnip: actually i need each file .. suppose 1.txt have string One and 2.txt have Two .. show on
[09:55] <zippo^> exec "\$HOME/firefox/firefox" -P mozilla-build "\$@" .. that must be /opt/firefox/firefox. Shall I type: "exec "\$opt/firefox/firefox" -P  mozilla-build "\$@", ActionParsnip ?
[09:58] <firstroad> ActionParsnip did you get my messages?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> jeetpei: so the files have half the file name to be made?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> firstroad: yes
[10:01] <jeetpei> ActionParsnip: i guess i am not getting you, let me explain .. i am creating some random file .. but problem is that /dev/urandom generate data which is not readable .. and i cant apply some searching and sorting function .. .. i what i am thinking is .. i create random file but each file should have readable string .. say i create 1.txt 2.txt 3.txt and each file have string One, Two, Three in it ..
[10:01] <jeetpei> is it possible
[10:03] <jeetpei> ActionParsnip: here is what i am doing right now
[10:03] <jeetpei> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6144876/
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> jeetpei: sure, you can use a simple bash loop
[10:03] <mn2010> mmhmm, and just have it output unixfortune cookie data if you want some readable data
[10:03] <jeetpei> ActionParsnip: i am not aware about this can you please give me more info ?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> jeetpei: you'll need a variable which increases, there may be a bash command to make words of a number, you can then add that to the filename
[10:05] <jeetpei> ActionParsnip: can you please give some more info .. i am kind of confuse here !! sorry
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> jeetpei: I'd ask in #bash
[10:06] <jeetpei> ok Thanks a lot
[10:07] <niklas> I just installed Ubuntu 13.04 on my pc. In the start when I plugged my Razer Taipan into the computer it worked fine, but now it can move, but wont click. Do I need to update some drivers, or?
[10:10] <firstroad> set scollback_save_formats = ON
[10:10] <firstroad> oups
[10:10] <firstroad> sorry
[10:11] <cfhowlett> niklas, run updates and also see your "additional drivers" under system settings.  there may be a better driver for your device.
[10:11] <niklas> Thanks m8 :)
[10:11] <legend123> Hi there. I have a old pc that doesn't support USB boot and it's DVD drive is broken. So only solution for me to install ubuntu on it is to take its hard drive to my new PC and install ubuntu on it there. My question is, if i put that hard disk back to my old pc again, will it cause any conficts since the drivers related to motherboard etc. were installed related to new pc?
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> niklas:  normally you dont need any drivers.  by 'in the start' you mean it worked on the live cd. but not the installed system? or did it work on the installed system, then stopped?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> legend123: do you have a floppy drive?
[10:12] <legend123> nope
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> legend123:  ive moved hd's befor. with vey few issues. HOWEVER. how old is that pc? does its cpu support PAE? thats needed by the newer releases of ubuntu
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> legend123: you can install in one PC then transfer the drive over, that's very doable
[10:12] <niklas> In the start i ment after I installed the live CD, it worked for like 10 hours, but the next day (yesterday) it just stopped working
[10:13] <vlt> legend123: It should work. You might have to delete the persistent-net file in udev rules because your NIC’s MAC address is different.
[10:13] <legend123> Thanks. Dr_Willis: Yes, it does.
[10:13] <niklas> I can easly move my mouse around on the screen, but it refuses to click, nethier right nor left
[10:14] <cfhowlett> niklas, right, it's not working properly.   we get that.  so ... try the suggested fixes?
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> got a razer deathadder here. ;) i did find some 'server/config' tool for it that let me tweak it a bit. turn off lights and so forth.
[10:15] <jmpiloq> hi all
[10:15] <jmpiloq> anyone got convirt working?
[10:15] <niklas> I'm on it  :)
[10:15]  * cfhowlett ... thinks "deathadder" is an ... uncomfortable name for a device that I'm expected to wrap y delicate hand around.;
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> http://bues.ch/cms/hacking/razercfg.html ;)
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> cfhowlett:  yep. but it was on sale for like $25
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> and that was like 1/3 the normal cost.
[10:18] <cfhowlett> Dr_Willis, alright then.  frag away!
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> its so senestive its over kill for my desktop.
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> 3500dpi = one inch travel - across both my monitors. ;)
[10:19] <niklas> cfhowlett, it dosen't work. But sometimes when I plug my mouse it works, but when I go to the menubar in the top it wont click again. Just tried it.. I have googled and searched for like 2 days, so I hope you can help me :=)
[10:19] <cfhowlett> niklas, DID YOU CHECK ADDITIONAL DRIVERS?
[10:19] <stlu> test123
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> niklas:  so if you unplug/plug it back in. some times it does work?
[10:19] <oaulakh> how to install notepad++ in ubuntu
[10:19] <stlu> I am unable to make a post in the forums.  I get a "VBulletin message" that is totally blank.  Arrgh, this is frustrating!
[10:19] <cfhowlett> niklas, asked with a smile :)
[10:19] <oaulakh> with apt-get
[10:19] <niklas> Yes I did, cfhowlett
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> oaulakh:  isent that a windows application?
[10:20] <niklas> And yes I have tried that several times, Dr_willis
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> niklas:  yes it does some times work? or no it never works?
[10:20] <dkeoui> how can i dd just the last GB of a drive?
[10:20] <oaulakh> yes it is, but i know it works on linux too
[10:20] <oaulakh> but dunno how to install it
[10:20] <dkeoui> the drive's size is 160041885184 bytes.
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> oaulakh:  if theres a linux Native port.. ive not seen it..  have you> or you use wine to install the iwndows version
[10:21] <oaulakh> any c/c++ ide for ubuntu from apt-get
[10:21] <niklas> Sometimes, when I rightclick first, I can left click onces
[10:21] <niklas> And other times it just dosen't work
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> oaulakh:  theres dozens of IDE's in the repos
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> !info geany
[10:21] <oaulakh> geany is an ide ,its a  text editor so please tell another
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> and i would call notepad++ a text editor also.
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> so go look for your self i guess.
[10:22] <oaulakh> hahaha dont angry
[10:22] <oaulakh> please tell if you know anything
[10:22] <stlu> hello? any idea why I'm unable to stay logged in, can't make any posts on ubuntuforums.org?
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> geany calls itself an ide.. so i wonder who knows.. the writers.. or us.
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> its about all i ever use.
[10:23] <cfhowlett> stlu, might need to re-register.  recent hack made many users reset
[10:23] <legend123> I have read that USB flash drives have  limited write/erase cycles and after that they give up. Now if i boot Ubuntu Live using a USB flash drive, would it greatly limit its life? What's your experiences?
[10:23] <oaulakh> the how to compile c program in geany
[10:23] <oaulakh> ?
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> legend123:  ive never managed to  wear out a usb yet.. and i use them a lot.
[10:24] <stlu> cfhowlett: recent hack? like a modification, or unauthorized alteration?
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> legend123:  i do full normal installs to them and have yet to ware one out..  now WASH one out.. in my pants pocket. ;) done that befor..
[10:24] <legend123> heh great
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> legend123:   I have 4gb usbs that are quite old and still working fine
[10:24] <oaulakh> Dr_Willis: how i compile c in geany?
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> legend123:  plus - really. they are getting dirt cheap.
[10:24] <stlu> cfhowlett: because I only get logged out when I click "Submit new Thread" -- and therefore lose everything I wrote!!!
[10:25] <lkeijser> hi, I'm trying to install an ubuntu 1204 server via preseed and get a dependency problem. Apparently it asks for accountsservice 0.6.15-2ubuntu9.5 but I can't find this in any mirror ...
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> oaulakh:  check its docs/help yet?  I generally only code in perl these days (rarely any more at that)
[10:25] <lkeijser> how do I find out where (on which mirror) this package is?
[10:25] <cfhowlett> stlu, forums were hacked in June or July.  Many users had to re-register.  Try it.
[10:25] <oaulakh> ok
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> lkeijser: apt-cache policy packagename
[10:25] <legend123> Dr_Willis: I think that live ubuntu USB drive doesn't constitute write/erase cycle unless its persistent. Am i right?
[10:25] <stlu> I DID re-register, I have a SSO, but t
[10:26] <stlu> I only stay logged in until I press "Submit new thread"
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> legend123:  yep. you can still access/write to the fat32 part of th eusb if you wanted.
[10:26] <lkeijser> ActionParsnip: this is via preseed, so no apt-cache available
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> legend123:  i even put swap on my USB ;) a big no-no.. and haven ruined one yet.
[10:26] <cfhowlett> stlu, OK.  Don't know why it's doing that.  try tomorrow.  If still acting up, contact the forum teams
[10:26] <stlu> And a few weeks ago I DID make successful posts, this is a new problem this week, or maybe the past 30 minutes
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> legend123:  but they are cheap. :) eveyr xmas the wife buys me a few more
[10:27] <varunendra> stlu, there is an "autosave" feature in the forum software. So you shouldn't loose anything you typed.
[10:27] <legend123> lol
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> lkeijser: oic
[10:28] <varunendra> stlu, did your last post take more than two hours? Because 2 hrs. is the default timeout for the forum login.
[10:28] <stlu> heaven forbid, I would take 2 hours to write anything and have it lost... no, it was about 5-7 minutes.
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> more like.. you write 1 line.. then have to go cook supper for the kids.. then come back 2 hrs later. ;)
[10:29] <stlu> But whether its 5 minutes or 10 seconds, I only stay logged in until I press "submit new thread" because the header of the site has that "login with sso" button re-appear.
[10:29] <stlu> then I get a blank "vBulletin message"
[10:29] <varunendra> stlu, I take more than 2 very often (start a thread, go into research mode or afk) ;P
[10:31] <stlu> can anyone try? I see a post 8 mins ago in Absolute beginners, but I don't know about any newer posts.
[10:31] <varunendra> stlu, perhaps you should use "Contact Us" link at the bottom then, they'll sort it out for you.
[10:31] <varunendra> stlu, I posted 3-4 just now. Didn't try to start a thread though.
[10:32] <stlu> I am trying to start a thread, I could test posting, but if it works, I'd kind of derail the thread I picked.
[10:33] <surface-vermin> morning
[10:33] <varunendra> stlu, what you describe is an unusual problem. You should contact the admins
[10:33] <cfhowlett> surface-vermin, greetings
[10:34] <surface-vermin> i have question regarding a problem with a video card
[10:34] <stlu> varunendra: the auto-save feature DIDNT work, because i got logged-out upon pressing "submit new thread"  Also, there is no "Contact US" at the bottom of ubuntuforums.org.
[10:35] <varunendra> stlu, did you see the orange bar at the bottom? This is the link btw - http://ubuntuforums.org/sendmessage.php
[10:35] <stlu> the last started post in Absolute beginners is now 55mins ago, the last response is 15 mins.  I think new threads are broken for everyone.
[10:36] <surface-vermin> the question is more or less on how to report the issue, with the video card
[10:36] <cfhowlett> !details
[10:36] <salamandre43025> Hi all, tried 12.04LTS on an HP TouchSmart. I got the boot logo then just a flashing cursor. Anyone have experience with the TouchSmart?
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | salamandre43025
[10:37] <surface-vermin> version 13.04  xserver-xorg-video-neomagic problem ever thing is green or because xorg pulls all package's it's no running said card
[10:37] <stlu> varunendra: the bottom orange bar has 1. combo box for vBulletin colours. 2. "ubuntu forums" main link. 3. "archive". 4. "Top"
[10:37] <surface-vermin> seems to be running maybe vesa
[10:37] <stlu> The contact us button is also missing.
[10:39] <varunendra> stlu, on the index page? It is showing here
[10:39] <stlu> I tried navigating to http://ubuntuforums.org/sendmessage.php
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> I dont see a contact us button either. but im not logged in
[10:39] <surface-vermin> ubottu should i add the parm to my boot anr try then report if changes work ?
[10:39] <surface-vermin> and *
[10:39] <stlu> Dr_Willis: Oh crap, so I can't ask for help because I'm being logged-out.... because new threads are broken...
[10:40] <varunendra> stlu, didn't the send mail form open up for you? It does here.
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> stlu:  i always use askubuntu.com these days. ;)
[10:40] <surface-vermin> didn't realize i was talking to a bot.
[10:40] <stlu> no I can't send for help because I keep getting logged out.
[10:40] <salamandre43025> @ubottu: thanks. Even if you are a bot
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> surface-vermin:  :) a Fembot even
[10:41] <surface-vermin> oh ! my
[10:41] <Techman> Hi. Can someone please tell me how to fetch a svn repository
[10:41] <surface-vermin> well ill use what the fem bot suggested them report back if nothing changes ?
[10:41] <Techman> I have all of the libsvn packages installed already.
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> surface-vermin:  most likely you may need to install some video drivers. depending on your video chipset
[10:42] <varunendra> Dr_Willis, stlu wow! Just tried a different browser (to simulate logged off scenario), and I don't see the link or the form as well. Something is really broken
[10:42] <surface-vermin> the package is installed
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> varunendra:  im using firefox here. with dozens of plugins/extensions. :)
[10:42] <stlu> Can somebody send a message or start a thread on my behalf?  The email address associated with my account is <ajh8888@gmail.com>
[10:43] <varunendra> Dr_Willis, I'm logged in on chromium, tried ff as alternative.
[10:43] <stlu> That is, if it is proven that I'm the only one affected.
[10:43] <surface-vermin> but as i can tell it may not be configures correctly, i have also done a expert command line install and had a issue where my wouldn't start cause it couldn't find the module
[10:43] <stlu> last post in Absolute Beginners is now 1 hour old
[10:44] <surface-vermin> my equal's x server  *
[10:44] <varunendra> stlu, although not a support channel, I think you can join #ubuntuforums and shout there. Maybe a mod/admin can hear..
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> stlu:  nothing on their twitter stream  yet. :)
[10:45] <stlu> I will try #ubuntuforums, brb
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> if anyone still twits. ;P
[10:45] <tirengarfio> To track the position of my websites in Google I have purchased an app. Since I have a big list of keywords ("windows spain", "windows france"..), I have problems with those requests to get the position of the website, becasuse Google thinks Im a kind of spammer or bot.. To fix this and don't have more problems, the documentation of the app says:"Hide your IP address behind a proxy server (Preferences -> Proxy Settings) so
[10:45] <tirengarfio> the temporary block will no longer apply." What should I do exactly?? I dont have any idea..
[10:47] <tirengarfio> Should I purchase something like this? https://getfoxyproxy.org/proxyservice/
[10:47] <tirengarfio> Im lost..
[10:48] <xanux> hello..
[10:49] <surface-vermin> looking the Xorg log it fails to load the module
[10:49] <surface-vermin> in *
[10:50] <surface-vermin> well ill try what the fem bot told me and ill report back in a few
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> tirengarfio:  theres dozens of proxy services you can hire/pay for by the month. Not really a ubuntu support topic.
[10:51] <xanux> how would i speed ubuntu up?
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> tirengarfio:  or go cheap and use TOR
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> xanux:  depends on what part of it is slow.
[10:51] <xanux> nothing really
[10:52] <xanux> i just wont more speed
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> BEST thing i ever did was switch to a SSD hard drive. ;)
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> worth all of the $100 ;P
[10:52] <xanux> i dont have lots of money
[10:52] <xanux> ..
[10:52] <Benkinooby> tirengarfio: maybe ask in ##networking
[10:52] <Benkinooby> or #network or however it is called
[10:53] <Benkinooby> xanux: so you want more speed by modifying the software/OS?
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> xanux:   want more speed where exactly?  i doubt if theres much you are gong to be able to tweek.  theres a few tricks at the various blog sites like putting  the browser cache in tmpfs and so forth.
[10:54] <xanux> thx
[10:54] <Benkinooby> xanux: apart from that - ssd will give you a noticeable boost as Dr_Willis said
[10:54] <sarkie> hi, I am looking for a good upnp server, mediatomb, ps3server, other? What's the de facto for ubuntu?
[10:54] <Benkinooby> xanux: what helped me a lot was to use a window manager instead of a fully blown desktop environment, and to use minimalist gtk-themes
[10:55] <xanux> ok
[10:55] <Benkinooby> xanux: but that will of course make your GUI look less fancy
[10:55] <Benkinooby> be warned ;)
[10:55] <xanux> fancy pants :D
[10:55] <Benkinooby> :)
[10:56] <Benkinooby> so what i use is fluxbox # kupfer
[10:56] <Benkinooby> # -> +
[10:56] <stlu> xanux: about the fasted you could "speed ubuntu up" would be to burn to a CD and drop it off a tall tower ;)
[10:56] <Benkinooby> but it's a quite specific setup - if you are used to gnome you'll have some trouble with it for a while
[10:57] <gordonjcp> sarkie: I use minidlna, which works, kinda
[10:57] <jeetpei> ActionParsnip: Thanks i found idea in #bash
[10:57] <Benkinooby> stlu: i heard that usb sticks are faster
[10:57] <gordonjcp> sarkie: every so often it freaks out and won't add new files
[10:57] <gordonjcp> sarkie: you need to periodically nuke its database and let it rebuild
[10:57] <sarkie> gordonjcp, perfect, do it do any fancy transcoding?
[10:58] <xanux> is there vb for linux?
[10:58] <Benkinooby> vb?
[10:58] <xanux> its a windows thing
[10:58] <xanux> :S
[10:58] <Benkinooby> virtual basic
[10:58] <xanux> yeah
[10:58] <Benkinooby> visual basic ?
[10:59] <xanux> yes thats it
[10:59] <xanux> my collage use it
[10:59] <xanux> i dont have any experience using it
[10:59] <Benkinooby> you can use wine
[10:59] <xanux> dunno
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> id suggest learning a better language
[11:00] <xanux> lol
[11:00] <xanux> i was learning shell for a while
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> you never finish learning the shell. ;)
[11:00] <xanux> :D
[11:00] <xanux> i do love shell
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> shell tip # 231 - renaming a lot of files. check out 'qmv' in the renameutils package. ;)
[11:01] <shashank_rusty> even if u finish learning ... u cant explore all shell functionalities
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> qmv -f do -e vim *.jpg
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> handy for bulk renameing
[11:01] <Benkinooby> do youself some good and learn c, c++, python or java ;)
[11:02] <Benkinooby> my opinion
[11:02] <xanux> its a good onew
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> learn regular expressions - The girls go crazy for a guy that can do a mean regular expression.
[11:02] <Benkinooby> lol
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> those things are like magical-voodoo
[11:03] <surface-vermin> so adding nomodeset to kernel does nothing
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> really impress people  when you whip out a pattern that matches all phone numbers :)  or other things
[11:03] <xanux> bye
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> surface-vermin:  whats your video chipset? the installer cd worked?
[11:03] <Benkinooby> Dr_Willis: lol, you scared him
[11:03] <Benkinooby> XD
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> Benkinooby:  we can replace him with a small regular expression now.
[11:04] <Aussie_matt> hi all.  anyone here using ubuntu via crouton on the samsung chromebook?
[11:04] <surface-vermin> i using the system right now, the chip set is xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> surface-vermin:  using the system on  what os? windows? some linux?
[11:05] <surface-vermin> lubuntu 13.04 also tried ubuntu 13.10 beta they all seem to be failling load module
[11:05] <surface-vermin> *to load
[11:05] <xanux> ubuntu battery drivers for laptops?
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> surface-vermin:  so lubuntu worked. but ubuntu dosent.. that points to the drivers/chipset lacking proper 3d support
[11:06] <surface-vermin> no they seem to be jumping to vesa instead as a fallback
[11:06] <surface-vermin> in the ubuntu install's i only use command line install's
[11:07] <shashank_rusty> hi
[11:07] <surface-vermin> both 13.04 and 13.10 seem to be failling to load said module
[11:07] <surface-vermin> and i just tried putting nomodeset to kernel just now to which did no work
[11:07] <shashank_rusty> Ubuntu 12.04 is pretty good
[11:08] <surface-vermin> hello
[11:08] <xanux> on my desktop i have 8 cpus , could dedicate cpus to programs ?
[11:08] <Benkinooby> xanux: you don't want that
[11:08] <surface-vermin> only is the program supports hyper threading i think
[11:08] <Benkinooby> xanux: the OS can handle such things better than you ever can
[11:08] <Twicetimes> hi all.  if i want to use ubuntu just to run a LAMP stack and SSH, should I be going for the desktop or server release?
[11:08] <shashank_rusty> xanux u can enable mpi and do that
[11:09] <surface-vermin> yeah the package is openmpi
[11:09] <Benkinooby> Twicetimes: better use server
[11:09] <xanux> ok thx
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> Twicetimes:  if you ever want a gui. go desktop.   if not you can use the server.if you want
[11:09] <Twicetimes> ok, cheers.  so it's not a trivial matter to add a gui to the server version?
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> Twicetimes:  assuming you do know how to admin via the command line
[11:09] <Benkinooby> Dr_Willis: server has no gui at all? not even window managr?
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> Twicetimes:  if you want a gui. eaier t go with the desktop first
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> Benkinooby:  no X at all.. = no gui
[11:09] <Twicetimes> ok, desktop it is.  thanks
[11:09] <shashank_rusty> i want to create a system based installer for my web based application
[11:10] <Benkinooby> oh
[11:10] <surface-vermin> so really Dr_willis what i am asking is how to report this or if i am doing something wrong during the installation
[11:10] <shashank_rusty> hi
[11:11] <xanux> hi
[11:11] <shashank_rusty> xanux can you guide me in using this IRC
[11:11] <shashank_rusty> i am kinda new here
[11:11] <xanux> um i new too
[11:11] <xanux> lol
[11:11] <xanux> :D
[11:11] <shashank_rusty> LoLz ok
[11:11] <shashank_rusty> :-P
[11:12] <xanux> what help you need
[11:12] <xanux> ?
[11:12] <surface-vermin> also am i in the right channel to reprot the error ?
[11:12] <Extreminador> guys i create a bridge connection in my windows on the desktop beetween the router (with auto dhcp) and the laptop
[11:12] <surface-vermin> report *
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> surface-vermin:  any askubuntu.com hits i find on neomagic are quite old. ;)
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> !bug | surface-vermin
[11:12] <Extreminador> but for some reazon i can´t connect to it
[11:12] <shashank_rusty> actually i wanted to know how this stuff works
[11:12] <shashank_rusty> i am exploring on my own ! nevermind xanux !
[11:13] <shashank_rusty> thanks !
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> surface-vermin:  id check the forums and askubuntu.com - that chipset seems to be a bit of fosssile. :P
[11:13] <shashank_rusty> :-)
[11:13] <xanux> whats best c++ or c
[11:13] <shashank_rusty> C is Ultimate
[11:13] <surface-vermin> it is
[11:13] <xanux> so fuck c++
[11:13] <fudus> Python
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> xanux:  go learn them both if you really want to code.
[11:13] <Benkinooby> noooooooooooooo!
[11:13] <fudus> Python > all
[11:13] <shashank_rusty> C++ is more OOPS oriented
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> and python, and perl, and rexx, and comal,
[11:13] <surface-vermin> but all distro's support the chip and i am sucker for antique's
[11:13] <shashank_rusty> Python is Better than C
[11:14] <surface-vermin> debian and arch work just fine
[11:14] <fudus> Yes
[11:14] <surface-vermin> i was going to try and see if 12.04 works
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> surface-vermin:  check the versions of X and the kernel and the drivers they are using. so you can mention it in your bug reports
[11:14] <shashank_rusty> Dr_Willis in which language can i create a Installer Wizard with ease !?
[11:14] <Twicetimes> i haven't used a linux system in about 10 years.  last experience was with redhat 4 or something.  how alien is a standard ubuntu installation going to feel?
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> shashank_rusty:  whatever one you know i imagine.
[11:15] <surface-vermin> do think trying 12.04 works and the filling a report should be the best plan of action ?
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> shashank_rusty:  id say stick to the lowest common demonator. and use bash. ;)
[11:15] <surface-vermin> if it works ?
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> surface-vermin:  if people dont file bugs - stuff dosent get fixed. or looked at.
[11:15] <shashank_rusty> ya as off now i have a Shell Script
[11:15] <surface-vermin> right
[11:15] <surface-vermin> i know it's why i am here
[11:15] <shashank_rusty> thinking of creating a GUI and with all GTK+ Qt and what not
[11:16] <xanux> is ubuntu secure from the box?
[11:16] <Benkinooby> xanux: i think c++ for starters is the best idea. c is quite raw and does not support all that object sutff as good as c++ does. and python is a cool language, but it is good to have the basics first with c++, otherwise you will misunderstand many things
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> xanux:  pretty much.
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> http://pyweek.org/  python game of the week - :) fun to play with
[11:17] <Benkinooby> xobb: or, java - it is quite noob-friendly, i think/feel
[11:17] <Benkinooby> xanux: or, java - it is quite noob-friendly, i think/feel
[11:17] <jnhghy> I'm trying to use romanian characters with libre office writer, I've selected romanian as text language but still no ro characters, what else should I do?
[11:17] <Benkinooby> xobb: sorry, disregard that
[11:17] <surface-vermin> but i believe i used 12.04 on said chip set and it worked so... i was going to try a 12.04 install then see if it works if not file a report to see if during the upstream process , which i know nothing about.
[11:17] <fudus> jnhghy: have you set up the proper keyboard in keyboard layout?
[11:18] <fudus> (sorry if it that is too obvious)
[11:18] <xanux> did any one have the problem when programming  they just dont know what to program ??
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> bah - go learn scratch for programming.. ;)
[11:18] <jnhghy> fudus: don't think so...where can I access keyboard layout...
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> http://scratch.mit.edu/scratch_1.4/
[11:18] <fudus> dash, type layout
[11:18] <surface-vermin> i mean to see if during the new package's in newer version are being compiles wrongly
[11:18] <jnhghy> I have gnome2 desktop ... no dash type :)
[11:18] <jnhghy> fudus: I have gnome2 desktop ... no dash type :)
[11:18] <Twicetimes> xanux: when i first started programming i'd always think of cool little projects to focus on, and always bite off more than i could chew
[11:19] <xanux> lol same here
[11:19] <fudus> somewhere in softwaer settings in admin then
[11:19] <Twicetimes> so, thinking of something really simple and keeping it that was is a good tip for beginners i'd say
[11:19] <fudus> or system settings
[11:19] <Twicetimes> way*
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> I always coded a  D&D dice roller app as a test of any new language. ;)
[11:19] <jnhghy> fudus: found it... will test
[11:19] <xanux> i could try a simple game
[11:20] <Benkinooby> xanux: that's too much to start with
[11:20] <xanux> ohh
[11:20] <xanux> hello world then lol
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> start with hello world. ;)
[11:20] <xanux> to easy
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> ruby was the big thing a  yeare or so ago. I dont hear as mucha bout it these days
[11:20] <fudus> http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-189-a-gentle-introduction-to-programming-using-python-january-iap-2011/index.htm
[11:20] <Twicetimes> never could get into ruby
[11:21] <Benkinooby> cuz it's DEAD Dr_Willis  ;)
[11:21] <Twicetimes> i use c# for most things at the moment
[11:21] <to_mashek> hi people. Is here anyone who knows how to fix the problem with initramfs-tools-bin dependency?
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> 'its not dead! its pineing for the feiords!'
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[11:21] <fudus> mit's 40k tuition cannot be wrong
[11:21] <fudus> (or was it 50k)
[11:21] <jnhghy> fudus: i've checked keyboard layout...but I can't find romanian anywhere ...
[11:22] <Benkinooby> xanux: i'd recommend you to do something like Dr_Willis ... it's the same thing i do too... use your language to solve small taks or puzzles
[11:22] <Benkinooby> xanux: for example a sudoku solver
[11:22] <fudus> is it romanian keyboard layout?
[11:22] <xanux> ok
[11:22] <Benkinooby> xanux: i coded something in c++ that will give me my chances for success when attacking in the game "RISK"
[11:22] <jnhghy> fudus: nope only english and chinese available in the list
[11:22] <fudus> + button, romanian has list
[11:23] <Twicetimes> yeah, little apps that help with some real life task are a good bet.  don't have to have a flashy ui or anything
[11:23] <jnhghy> fudus: + button and only chinese and english in the list
[11:23] <Twicetimes> keep it as straightforward as possible
[11:23] <fudus> in "sleect an input source to add
[11:23] <Benkinooby> xanux: as soon as you add graphics, it will get big
[11:23] <xanux> im off to cod
[11:23] <fudus> it has romanian keyboard layout for me?
[11:23] <Benkinooby> xanux: start with something, where simple command line in and output is sufficent
[11:23] <Benkinooby> xanux: and if you start, ask in the channels for the right way to start
[11:24] <Benkinooby> you will get lots of oppinions, but usually there is one or two standard books that will give you a good introduction
[11:24] <to_mashek> I tried several solutions from different forums but nothing worked for me
[11:25] <surface-vermin> Thanks for the link Dr_Willis
[11:25] <surface-vermin> i'll report the issue
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> to_mashek  solutions to do what?
[11:25] <jnhghy> fudusȘ you were correct...found it and ifxed it....thanks
[11:26] <TJ-> to_mashek: Have you confirmed that /boot/ has free space? See for example, http://askubuntu.com/questions/246870/broken-dependencies-12-04
[11:27] <to_mashek> initramfs-tools needs initramfs-tools-bin (< 0.99ubuntu13.1.1~)  but having 0.99ubuntu13.2 installed instead
[11:27] <to_mashek> I will check this link first
[11:27] <to_mashek> will tell you about the result soon
[11:28] <TJ-> to_mashek: also see the covering bug #984688
[11:29] <Twicetimes> is this channel mainly for discussion about ubuntu bugs/development or is it ok to ask newbie questions about general usage too?
[11:30] <Benkinooby> Twicetimes: both
[11:30] <Twicetimes> cool
[11:30] <Benkinooby> Twicetimes: but you are only allowed to ask a noob question, when you asked a developer question before
[11:30] <Benkinooby> ;)
[11:30] <Twicetimes> heh
[11:30] <Twicetimes> k, time to look up some pro-sounding buzzwords
[11:31] <Benkinooby> Twicetimes: i usully look up some bugs and randombly throw words i read there in here
[11:32] <Twicetimes> yeah.  i totally pagefaulted my kernel cache.  or something
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> just dont ask why theres no 'n' in the Unmount command.  ;)
[11:32] <Benkinooby> by doing so you win twice: you sound like you ahve some kind of idea, and others get the chance to sound smart too
[11:32] <Benkinooby> if they find the bug you are using as source
[11:33] <Benkinooby> it's a bit like theatre: you open with a random quetion, and then others first try to guess what bug you are using, and once they found out, you and them will replay the whole bug
[11:33] <Benkinooby> :P
[11:33] <Twicetimes> :)
[11:34] <Benkinooby> sometimes people ask real questions, but we usually ingnore them
[11:34] <TJ-> I'm still trying to figure out how to stop Unity 13.04 from auto-reopening an LVM volume group and logical volumes after I manually close the volume group. All the automount controls I've found don't stop it happening
[11:34] <Twicetimes> well this is my first time using linux for 10 years.  i'm expecting some stuff to come back quickly and other stuff not so much
[11:34] <Benkinooby> Twicetimes: yeah... the pain will come quickly :P
[11:34] <Twicetimes> i remember some funky 'find' syntax.  that's my only lasting memory
[11:35] <xanux> tunnelling netcat  with tor ? is it possible ?
[11:35] <Benkinooby> xanux: only if it is tcp
[11:35] <xanux> which it is
[11:36] <Benkinooby> xanux: tor does not do udp
[11:36] <xanux> ok
[11:36] <Benkinooby> xanux: well then, why not
[11:36] <Benkinooby> xanux: in doupt ask ##networking
[11:36] <Benkinooby> *doupt
[11:36] <Benkinooby> doubt
[11:36] <Twicetimes> one more time
[11:36] <Twicetimes> there it is
[11:36] <Benkinooby> *sogh*
[11:36] <Benkinooby> *sigh*
[11:36] <Twicetimes> rofl
[11:36] <Twicetimes> 'sogh' was too perfect
[11:37] <Benkinooby> that's it - i'm going for lunch :)
[11:38] <Benkinooby> weeeee - my ipv6 tunnel works :D
[11:39] <Twicetimes> i wish i was clever enough to be genuinely happy for you
[11:39] <Benkinooby> Twicetimes: just look up some randum bugs ;)
[11:39] <Benkinooby> *random
[11:39] <hplc> when the grammar gets tough, the tough goes for lunch? :p
[11:40] <Benkinooby> so it is - also it's not the grammar but the spelling. when grammar starts to go the same way my spelling does, i'm lost...
[11:40] <guest-d3aVAD> I USED 13.10!
[11:41] <Benkinooby> it will look like i randomly type stuff here, and then i'll be kicked... and i'm not able to defend myself, becuase it will look like "fjaöef lidsfa,j öaodj  ialsdjals"
[11:42] <hplc> hmm no no, theres a "ö" missing in the center i think :D
[11:43] <Benkinooby> hplc: no it's not. many people spell it wrong - look it up in the dictionary i wrote :P
[11:44] <sarkie> http://usvsth3m.com/post/62051383205/the-15-things-you-need-to-know-if-youre-dating-an-it
[11:44] <sarkie> oops
[11:44] <sarkie> sorry
[11:45] <xanux> when you think you learnt something in IT , it just gets bigger
[11:45] <xanux> :C
[11:46] <Twicetimes> yup :/
[11:46] <Extreminador> guys i have a bride connection beetween this computer and the router (that has automátic DHCP on)
[11:47] <Extreminador> how can i configure the laptop that has ubuntu to configure and have acces to the internet using the bridge ?
[11:50] <to_mashek> any idea how to solve this problem : curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'security' ?
[11:51] <to_mashek> I wanted to download some initramfs-tools-bin package manually
[11:51] <ikonia> fix your dns ?
[11:51] <ikonia> or enter a valid host
[11:51] <ikonia> or don't enter a repo name as a host
[11:52] <ActionPa1snip> Extreminador: set the bridge IP as the default gateway
[11:52] <to_mashek> sure, spelling mistake :P
[11:52] <Extreminador> ActionPa1snip but that is done automatic already and it's like that
[11:53] <Extreminador> my problem is with the ubuntu ... for some reason o can´t connect
[11:53] <Rory> Extreminador: Can you ping the gateway IP?
[11:53] <Twicetimes> does default gateway basically mean 'any packets that aren't for IPs on this interface, send them there'?
[11:53] <Extreminador> humm let me check
[11:54] <Rory> Twicetimes: It means it's the gateway that's used when there's not a specific route set for the target network
[11:54] <guest-d3aVAD> Server Has Joined  Brandon Maxwell.
[11:54] <Twicetimes> ok, thanks
[11:54] <ActionPa1snip> Extreminador: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[11:54] <xanux> thats google dns ?
[11:55] <Extreminador> i can´t ping the gateway no... that one let me check
[11:55] <Rory> Extreminador: If you can't ping the gateway you won't be able to ping anything else.
[11:55] <ActionPa1snip> xanux: yes 8.8.8.8 is google's primary public dns server
[11:55] <Extreminador> let me explain better mybe it's me...
[11:55] <ActionPa1snip> Extreminador: if you can't ping the gateway then that is why you get no connection
[11:56] <ActionPa1snip> Extreminador: you need to check routing so that the traffic goes out of the right interface
[11:56] <dmavroid> Hello! I am trying to get Playdeb working on my desktop but it seems that i have a problem. I am installing the package as playdeb site recommends but when i am trying to install a game a window pops up in order to select an application to run the game, but the list of applications is empty what should i do?
[11:56] <dmavroid> thanks
[11:56] <ikonia> contact the playdev support resources
[11:56] <ikonia> it's their package/software
[11:56] <Rory> Yes dmavroid ask in #playonlinux
[11:56] <dmavroid> ok thanks
[11:57] <Extreminador> this computer (windows 7) is is the desktop one (it connect direclty to the router using automatic DHCP). I did put a while ago another network hardware to connect beetween this and the laptop (ubuntu). After i put it i bridge the two connections
[11:57] <to_mashek> ok people. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/984688/comments/3 ...this link helped me with the problem with initramfs-tools-bin dependency
[11:58] <Extreminador> in this computer all works fine but on laptop it's not
[11:58] <ActionPa1snip> Extreminador: you'll need to check routing and IP addressing
[11:58] <to_mashek> thanks for help
[11:58] <dmavroid> Rory: is there any other channel? because everyone seems to do something else at the time :S
[11:59] <Rory> dmavroid: That's the official channel. They have support forums on their website too
[11:59] <dmavroid> Rory: thanks again
[11:59] <Extreminador> ActionPa1snip you mean in router ?
[12:00] <ActionPa1snip> Extreminador: if one computer can connect and one cannot then trhe router is fine
[12:00] <kongthap> In dash, how to search only just for app (ignore music, vde, etc.) ??? Ubunut 13.04
[12:00] <ActionPa1snip> Extreminador: if only one computer cannot connect then it is the system which is with issue
[12:00] <hplc> is there any cookbook with tons of python recipies?
[12:00] <ActionPa1snip> hplc: try asking in #python
[12:00] <ActionPa1snip> kongthap: maybe click the application lens first..?
[12:01] <kongthap> ActionPalsnip: there is no ways to config that in the setting or something???
[12:01] <Extreminador> it what i was think off them...
[12:01] <Extreminador> i will try to configure manualy and see
[12:01] <ActionPa1snip> kongthap: what setting?
[12:01] <shashank_rusty> hi
[12:02] <shashank_rusty> any one here for just time pass
[12:02] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:02] <ActionPa1snip> hi BluesKaj
[12:02] <shashank_rusty> LoL
[12:02] <Rory> !ot | shashank_rusty
[12:02] <BluesKaj> hi ActionPa1snip
[12:02] <kongthap> ActionPalsnip: any setting which makes the dash only list app (ignore others)
[12:03] <kongthap> ActionPalsnip: may be i just have to use "Super + A" shortcut to search for only apps....
[12:04] <ActionPa1snip> kongthap: not sure, not something I use.
[12:04] <Extreminador> brb going to eat
[12:05] <kongthap> ActionPalsnip: anyway thanks for your help :)
[12:06] <ActionPa1snip> word
[12:09] <schnitzl> hi. how to put a running process nto backgroundwithout stopping it
[12:09] <schnitzl> bash
[12:10] <Rory> schnitzl: ctrl-z
[12:10] <Rory> schnitzl: then type bg
[12:10] <schnitzl> but with ctrl z it gets stopped, doesnt it?
[12:11] <Rory> no, when you type "bg" it will run in the background
[12:11] <schnitzl> nice...and the momenti do ctrl+z its stopped for a second?
[12:12] <schnitzl> running some kind of game server. dont want ppl to get kicked just because i wanna check the output...
[12:12] <schnitzl> ;)
[12:14] <ActionPa1snip> schnitzl: it doesn't stop it, no
[12:14] <djlanz> abody here
[12:14] <ActionPa1snip> djlanz: lots
[12:14] <schnitzl> thank you guys.
[12:14] <djlanz> anybody here
[12:14] <djlanz> ok
[12:15] <Rory> schnitzl: You might find this useful http://www.unix.com/unix-advanced-expert-users/78975-make-foreground-running-process-run-background-without-hang-up.html
[12:16] <schnitzl> :) thanks mate
[12:18] <p1l0t> I'm having some kind of graphics issue I think. I just installed 12.04 LTS and neither of my browsers will work nor will libre office. I get this in the syslog: "<3>[fglrx:firegl_apl_loadDatabase] *ERROR* APL: apl initialize fail."
[12:18] <p1l0t> I would google it but heh..
[12:18] <p1l0t> oh wait my phone
[12:23] <Rory> p1l0t: Did you just install it, or did you install it and then do something else ? ;)
[12:24] <p1l0t> Rory: I think it's the additional drivers I downloaded I might try uninstalling those
[12:24] <Rory> p1l0t: It is those, yes.
[12:25] <p1l0t> Rory: thanks
[12:25] <efbiai> V'Las: کیوں آپ کو ایک Shuttlepod شروع کیا؟
[12:25] <efbiai> Tucker: کیوں تم اس پر برطرف کر دیا؟
[12:25] <efbiai> حملے اور Maywether Mannöver پرواز کرنے کی حوصلہ افزائی کی گئی ہے جس کے تحت Shuttlepod میں Lt.Reed:
[12:25] <efbiai> Lt.Reed: میں نے آج ناشتا چھوڑ دینا چاہئے
[12:25] <efbiai> "Borderland"
[12:25] <efbiai> Dr.Soong جوناتھن آرچر ... وہ یہاں کیا اس کی طرف جاتا ہے؟ تم ان کے لیے جیل کا نام تبدیل کرنا چاہتے ہیں؟
[12:25] <efbiai> "موت اسٹیشن"
[12:25] <FloodBot1> efbiai: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:26] <rosco_y> how do I tell lpr to use my printer (when I try to print using "lpr file.ps", the message reads: "lpr: Error - no default destination available.")
[12:26] <Rory> rosco_y: Can you specify the printer manually?
[12:27] <rosco_y> Rory: I can print from software, but I'm not familiar with the lpr command
[12:27] <Rory> rosco_y: use "lpr -p" to list printer names, and then "lpr -d printername" to set "printername" as the default printer
[12:27] <rosco_y> Rory: ty!
[12:31] <HypnotiX> Hello, i have a silly question can i recover some files that i overwritten? i have no backup
[12:31] <Extreminador> back
[12:31] <Daemonx> is anyone able to get redbox to work under wine sub silverlight ?
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> !recover | HypnotiX
[12:31] <hello231> no ja
[12:32] <Daemonx> netflix  works fine.  issues with redbox
[12:36] <Extreminador> grrr will check with windows to see if i can´configure this easly
[12:42] <Subo1977_> someone from russia here?
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[12:42] <Subo1977_> MonkeyDust: thx
[12:43] <SoWhat> little help needed in installing Ubuntu on Asus Vivotab
[12:43] <Rory> !details | SoWhat
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> SoWhat  let's hear it!
[12:43] <SoWhat> I made USB stick with ubuntu 13.4
[12:44] <SoWhat> changed UEFI settings so my vivotab boots from it
[12:44] <SoWhat> but in the end it simply waits a bit longer and goes to WIndows boot manager
[12:45] <SoWhat> and tries to buut my damaged windoes 8
[12:45] <SoWhat> *boot
[12:45] <Rory> SoWhat: How did you make the USB stick?
[12:45] <SoWhat> from windows with Universal USB installer
[12:47] <schnitzl> i am via putty to some ubuntu server. want to pimp my bash. (PS1). i edit /etc/bash.bashrc. exit putty, restart putty, relogin, but bast is plain white and simple again, why?
[12:47] <SoWhat> I think that USB stick is okay, because if it doesn't have correct UEFI files on it, system doesn't offer a stick as a boot device
[12:49] <Rory> schnitzl: You need to edit ~/.bashrc it's different per user
[12:49] <schnitzl> well. this one was empty
[12:49] <schnitzl> so i just added a line.
[12:49] <Rory> schnitzl: OK, what I said is  still true
[12:49] <schnitzl> still doesnt work :(
[12:49] <Pici> 70
[12:50] <Rory> schnitzl: Can you please put your ~/.bashrc file on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:51] <schnitzl> haha, got it. was my fault (ofc it was...!)
[12:51] <schnitzl> apperantly bash.rc is empty
[12:51] <schnitzl> but bashrc isnt
[12:51] <schnitzl> damnn
[12:51] <schnitzl> what is bash.rc for anyways, if its empty. :(
[12:52] <Rory> schnitzl: Nothing. you just made the file by trying to open a non-existant file
[12:52] <Rory> schnitzl: So it looked empty when you opened it
[12:52] <schnitzl> god damn it. i feel stupid.
[12:52] <schnitzl> thanks again Rory :D
[13:03] <chiefw0tj> good morning all!
[13:03] <Daemonx> is anyone able to get redbox to work under wine sub silverlight ?
[13:03] <Daemonx> netflix  works fine.  issues with redbox
[13:03] <e-dard> Hi, I was configuring sshd to only use keys and I set usepam = no. For some reason this stopped on of the users on my system from being able to login over SSH. Wondered why this might be?
[13:04] <SoWhat> I noticed there is a blinking symbol _ in the top left corner of the screen when ubuntu is trying to boot and after 20 sec it goes either to UEFI settings of windows boot manager
[13:04] <SoWhat> * or
[13:04] <Daemonx> _
[13:04] <Rory> SoWhat: That usually means the USB hasn't been created sucesfully. Try using a different tool like unetbootin or LiLiUSB, and format the flash drive as fat32 first
[13:04] <e-dard> Basically I disabled root loging, disabled password login, and all users can login fine with their keys. However if I add usepam to this one of the users can't lo in
[13:05] <SoWhat> okay, thanks Rory! I will try it on different machine
[13:05] <Rory> SoWhat: That would help to determine whether the USB is faulty or not, yes
[13:07] <SoWhat> I think I found the problem. This is a 64bit ubuntu but my VivoTab has a 32bit processor
[13:08] <Rory> lol SoWhat yeah that could be a problem :P
[13:08] <SoWhat> on different machine I could read an error message
[13:08] <e-dard> In Ubuntu 12.04 are all ports closed by default/
[13:08] <trijntje> Hi all, I'm trying to get m wireless dongle to work with ndiswrapper, but whatever command I use, I only get
[13:08] <trijntje> $ ndiswrapper -l
[13:08] <trijntje> Error: unable to find a version of ndiswrapper!
[13:08] <e-dard> I would expect this to be the case but not sure
[13:09] <SoWhat> Rory: can I get 32 bit ubumtu with UEFI support?
[13:10] <Rory> SoWhat: I don't think it's only the 64 bit version
[13:10] <Rory> !uefi | SoWhat maybe info here
[13:11] <SoWhat> thanks
[13:11] <e-dard> So Ubuntu has all ports open by default until you enable ufw?
[13:11] <Rory> e-dard: That's correct yes
[13:12] <e-dard> Rory: is it possible to allow services to open ports without having to set ufw?
[13:12] <Rory> e-dard: It's assumed if you have an application listening on a port, you don't want access to that port to be restricted by default
[13:12] <Rory> e-dard: What you just described is the default behaviour
[13:13] <e-dard> OK. So If I enable ufw, it's not like I lock myself out of machine (remote cloud server accessed by ssh)
[13:13] <e-dard> because SSH runs as a service
[13:13] <ikonia> you can lock yourself out of anything with a firewall
[13:13] <ikonia> it's up to you to have a clue of what you are doing and show some level of checking your own work
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> !ufw | e-dard start here
[13:14] <e-dard> ikonia: I read somewhere you can setup ubuntu's firewall to automatically let services through
[13:14] <e-dard> I'm familiar with ufw
[13:14] <e-dard> I wondered if you can let services through automatically?
[13:15] <ikonia> e-dard: you can just set the default rule to "allow"
[13:15] <ikonia> that will let things through by default
[13:15] <ikonia> but that is unwise
[13:15] <e-dard> ikonia: indeed. That will let everything though
[13:15] <e-dard> I guess I have to just open up right ports for services
[13:16] <trijntje> is ndiswrapper broken on ubuntu 13.10? Whatever I do, I only get "Error: unable to find a version of ndiswrapper!"
[13:16] <Rory> trijntje: How did you install ndiswrapper?
[13:16] <trijntje> 13.04 I mean
[13:16] <Rory> !sudo | trijntje You may also have to run it using sudo
[13:17] <trijntje> Rory: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-dkms
[13:17] <trijntje> Rory: running it with sudo makes no difference
[13:18] <Rory> trijntje: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[13:19] <ihre> clear
[13:20] <trijntje> Rory: thanks, that  fixed it. Why is utils not a dependency of ndiswrapper-common if you cant do anything without it?
[13:21] <Rory> trijntje: because ndiswrapper-common is just libraries and things. Where told you to install that?
[13:23] <trijntje> Rory: the guide i'm following to get my wireless to work. It said I needed -common and -dkms
[13:23] <Rory> trijntje: It's possibly outdated, could you show me it?
[13:23] <Rory> trijntje: I want to check if there's any other incorrect instructions in there
[13:24] <SoWhat> yeah.. I can't install Ubuntu on my 32bit VivoTab :(
[13:26] <Rory> SoWhat: Looks like you have to do some voodoo to make it work with EFI on 32-bit http://askubuntu.com/questions/296543/installing-ubuntu-on-an-asus-vivotab-smart-windows-8-32-bit-processor-tablet
[13:27] <juniour> hey which is better adobe phototshop or gimp ??
[13:27] <Rory> !best
[13:28] <NikP> Does anyone have an idea, how i can set the sound of ALSA to mono? Seems to be difficult, not much answers on Google....
[13:28] <deanrock0> is it possible to install package without installing extra packages?
[13:29] <Rory> !details | deanrock0
[13:29] <Rory> NikP: Found this, first result: http://superuser.com/questions/155522/force-downmix-to-mono-on-linux
[13:29] <deanrock0> i'm trying to install drush package, but don't want apache2; is it possible to install just the package i want?
[13:29] <Rory> !info drush
[13:30] <deanrock0> that doesn't really answer my question
[13:31] <Rory> I know, I just needed to see it
[13:31] <Rory> deanrock0: There are a few ways, all of them various levels of hackery: http://serverfault.com/questions/250224/how-do-i-get-apt-get-to-ignore-some-dependencies
[13:31] <NikP> Rory: OK, I'll try it out! Thanks in advance!
[13:31] <M0NK_> ingend، الرقص، في حالة سكر مع السعادة: كيف احتفلت قيادة حزب الاتحاد الديمقراطي المسيحي انتصارهم على خشبة المسرح. وأظهرت أنجيلا ميركل أيضا لمعاييرها سعداء جدا وكان حتى هاينر جايسلر واحد من الحزب. النتيجة تجاوزت بوضوح التوقعات الاكثر وحشية للحزب. من انتصار
[13:31] <M0NK_> خطاب المستشار، والتي تتم مقارنة مع 50.2 في المئة اديناور في عام 1957. لكن ميركل لا يكفي لفي المئة غالبية مطلقة من المقاعد 41.5 سنة. حتى المرأة التي تثق بها الألمان، تعتمد على شريك الائتلاف في الحكم، من ناحية من المعسكر المنافس. لأن الحقيقة من ليلة الانتخابات يعني
[13:31] <FloodBot1> M0NK_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:32] <deanrock0> Rory: ok, thanks for the help
[13:33] <trijntje> Rory: http://askubuntu.com/questions/100090/how-do-i-install-the-driver-for-my-linksys-ae1200-wireless-n-usb-adapter
[13:34] <jmpiloq> has anyone get convirt working with raring?
[13:34] <oaulakh> how to repair bootsplash in ubuntu
[13:34] <Rory> trijntje: "First, install ndiswrapper and be sure to install ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper-dkms as well." - looks like you just misread the instructions
[13:34] <Rory> !details | oaulakh
[13:35] <jmpiloq> I seem to stumble over this one: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-sponsors/2012-April/022074.html
[13:35] <jmpiloq> is there a solution?
[13:36] <oaulakh> means when i boot my bootscreen is not working and sometimes my system freezes at startup with eth0 not found error
[13:36] <trijntje> Rory: there is not package ndiswrapper as far as I can tell
[13:36] <oaulakh> am using ubuntu 13.04
[13:38] <oaulakh> what should i do now?
[13:38] <Rory> trijntje: It's OK you have it installed now
[13:38] <oaulakh> i think something ba with my bootsplash
[13:38] <oaulakh> i think something bad with my bootsplash
[13:39] <mydog2> morn...
[13:40] <oaulakh> Rory: what should i do to reapair my boot screen?
[13:41] <juniour> hey which is better adobe phototshop or gimp ??
[13:41] <juniour> ???
[13:41] <juniour> ??
[13:42] <oaulakh> afkos adobe... :)
[13:42] <Pici> !best | juniour
[13:42] <oaulakh> means when i boot my bootscreen is not working and sometimes my system freezes at startup with eth0 not found error
[13:43] <oaulakh> how to repair bootsplash in ubuntu
[13:43] <juniour> k
[13:43] <NikP> Rory: No, I've restarted my PC, but it is still stereo. In the german ubuntu forum I've read, that in some causes the .asoundrc doesn't recognizes from the pc. (Sorry for my bad english...)
[13:44] <NikP> Rory: I've tried it out in Fedora and OpenSUSE, there it works perfectly, but I mostly use Ubuntu, why not there?
[13:45] <ActionPa1snip> NikP: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[13:46] <bountyhunter> Ubuntu or Linux Mint will work better on old hardware laptops?
[13:46] <NikP> ActionPa1snip: Here it is: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=2d196d885a209e351b9a81e79cd22923ecbd7909
[13:49] <luh> exit
[13:49] <WarDekar> how do i change the name of the compouter name shown on the CLI? like "username@compname: ~/# "
[13:49] <WarDekar> i want to change what compname is displayed
[13:50] <ihre> WarDekar: change /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[13:50] <WarDekar> just add "127.0.0.1    new_hostname" to each?
[13:51] <ihre> no, change the line in /etc/hostname to the new name
[13:51] <WarDekar> that file is blank currently
[13:53] <andreneves> add the hostname you want in the first line
[13:54] <ActionPa1snip> NikP: if you run:  alsamixer    are all levels maxed and unmuted?
[13:54] <NikP> ActionPa1snip: Yep.
[13:59] <oaulakh> how to restore bootsplash in ubuntu 13.04?
[13:59] <oaulakh> how to restore bootsplash in ubuntu 13.04?
[13:59] <xanux_> hello
[14:00] <oaulakh> how to restore bootsplash in ubuntu 13.04?
[14:00] <zippo^> hello , can i disable a touchpad via terminal? I want always disable touchpad , restart too
[14:00] <zippo^> ?
[14:00] <oaulakh> how to restore bootsplash in ubuntu 13.04?
[14:02] <Johnny_Linux> oaulakh  http://askubuntu.com/questions/12394/getting-back-ubuntus-default-boot-splash
[14:02] <Johnny_Linux> just a thought
[14:05] <NikP> Does anybody other have an answer?
[14:06] <ActionPa1snip> cauplease dont spam
[14:06] <ActionPa1snip> NikP: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse*    wait 10 seconds and reboot
[14:07] <mydog2> got a ssh priv/pub key issue...
[14:07] <Rory> Could you elaborate, mydog2 ?
[14:07] <mydog2> i've pasted to http://fpaste.org/41553/ <<
[14:07] <mydog2> Rory,  - i know.. it's a fedora paste.. but old habits!!
[14:08] <mydog2> but here's the issue...
[14:08] <mydog2> pub/priv key testing, using the config file
[14:08] <Rory> mydog2: is your private key in /home/foo/id_rsa_foo ? by default it would be in /home/foo/.ssh/id_rsa
[14:09] <Rory> mydog2: also it looks like it's trying to connect to port 50122, check your config file to make sure that's what you actually want
[14:09] <NikP> ActionPa1snip: OK, I'll be there in a few minutes...
[14:09] <Rory> mydog2: ssh usually runs on port 22, and does by default
[14:09] <mydog2> however, when i ssh into a ssh domain that's not in the config file, it appears that ssh/config file is trying to redirect what's on the commandline to the config file hostname/domain
[14:09] <Pricey> mydog2: Begin with a 'Host' section, indent anything belonging to that by a couple of spaces
[14:10] <Pricey> mydog2: e.g.  http://fpaste.org/41555/99454111/
[14:10] <Rory> mydog2: Pricey is correct, your ssh config file is set to apply to ALL ssh connections
[14:10] <Pricey> The indenting isn't required... but'll make life easier reading.
[14:11] <mydog2> Pricey,  - ok.. how to change the config file to just apply to the 5.18
[14:11] <Pricey> mydog2: "'Host' Restricts the following declarations (up to the next Host keyword) to be only for those hosts that match one of the patterns given after the keyword."
[14:11] <Pricey> mydog2: See my example paste :)
[14:11] <mydog2> Pricey,  -ohh.. so it was host.. not hostname!!!!
[14:11] <mydog2> doah! let em try,,,
[14:11] <Rory> mydog2: hostname is valid
[14:11] <mydog2> jesus..!!
[14:12] <Pricey> mydog2: Yep. They mean different things. "man 5 ssh_config"
[14:13] <mydog2> Pricey,  - i had looked at that for a bit.. just went right over it!! thanks man... the little things...
[14:13] <mydog2> 'ppreciate it!
[14:13] <Rory> mydog2: This is the SSH config I use at work, it's a good template http://rory.sh/files/ssh_config
[14:13] <mydog2> thanks guys!!!
[14:13] <Pricey> mydog2: Not a problem!
[14:14] <NikP> ActionPa1snip: No, doesn't brings anything. Other ideas?
[14:14] <ss_haze> yello, error:error parsing environment "amazon": no public ssh keys found on juju bootstrap
[14:14] <ss_haze> and I tought I will get wordpress by this :>
[14:17] <ActionPa1snip> NikP: my sound troubleshooting is basic, sorry
[14:18] <ss_haze> also 64 thousands of cash for trying this stuff
[14:22] <NikP> ActionPa1snip: OK, but thank you for your help! I'll try it with an other soundcard as the onboard! Finally, a reason to buy a Soundblaster Z!
[14:24] <Rory> NikP: If you're looking for sound card recommendations please PM me, I can't let someone buy a soundblaster in good conscience
[14:25] <ActionPa1snip> NikP: i'd get something more generic
[14:26] <ActionPa1snip> NikP: creative stuff is either super easy or a pain
[14:28] <artifex1990> hello all
[14:28] <artifex1990> kill me somebody)
[14:29] <NikP> ActionPa1snip: Do you know good Soundcards they're not too expensive ~120$
[14:30] <NewWeek> hello all
[14:30] <Dr_feelgud> hi all
[14:30] <artifex1990> hi
[14:32] <Dr_feelgud> how do i change titlebar on terminal?
[14:33] <Rory> Dr_feelgud: What terminal?
[14:33] <Dr_feelgud> terminator
[14:34] <Rory> Dr_feelgud: http://software.jessies.org/terminator/faq.html#heading_toc_j_4
[14:35] <Dr_feelgud> Rory, thanks
[14:40] <slowe> I'm seeing an odd error attempting to install 12.04 over the network (using Apache HTTPd). Most of the way through the install, it fails with package dependency errors. Any suggestions?
[14:42] <sh_> Hi everybody.
[14:42] <sh_> I have problem with internal microphone. It's not working
[14:43] <sh_> Please help me !
[14:43] <Dr_feelgud> sh_: may we know what version of ubuntu ar u using?
[14:44] <sh_> my ubuntu is 13.04
[14:44] <Rory> sh_: can you please run the command: alsamixer
[14:44] <Rory> sh_: Use the left and right arrow keys to move between sliders, and ensure they are all set as maximum
[14:45] <Rory> sh_: (use the up and down arrow keys to modify the value of the currently selected slider)
[14:45] <slowe> Anyone have any suggestions as to what might cause package dependency errors when installing 12.04 over the network (via HTTP)?
[14:45] <sh_> Yes, I run command: alsamixer
[14:45] <sh_> It work
[14:49] <Rory> !pm | sh_
[14:50] <sh_> ubottu_: thanks
[14:51] <dNSTAR> Hello guys. I have a question.. When I start my computer it dosen't allways show where I have to write my encryption-password. But if I press esc I can write it but the interface dosen't look like the same.
[14:51] <Rory> !nomodeset | dNSTAR
[14:51] <sh_> Rory: !pm mean?
[14:51] <Rory> sh_: !pm makes ubottu say that to you
[14:51] <Skeptix> Hi, I don't understand how the security/limits.conf file works. Here is what I put in it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6145821/. I want all the process of www-data to have a nice level of 19. What am I doing wrong?
[14:52] <sh_> !nomodeset | dNSTAR
[14:52] <sh_> !pm
[14:52] <moparisthebest> I am seeing these in dmesg: 'thinkpad_acpi: docked into hotplug port replicator' and 'thinkpad_acpi: undocked from hotplug port replicator', and I need to run a script when those happen, how can I do that?
[14:53] <ActionPa1snip> moparisthebest: sounds like a udev thing
[14:53] <moparisthebest> udev or acpi?
[14:54] <Rory> Skeptix: sudo -i -u www-data
[14:54] <Rory> Skeptix: then run: ulimit -a
[14:54] <sh_> Rory: Ok, I got it. How do I check my driver is work?
[14:54] <sh_> Rory: My speaker work well, but Internal micro is bad :(
[14:54] <Rory> sh_: Did you turn up all the sliders?
[14:54] <Skeptix> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6145833/
[14:55] <sh_> Rory: Yes, I've  turn up all sliders
[14:55] <Rory> Skeptix: You could just reboot
[14:55] <ronin> isn't this right if I want to run cron every 3rd hour: 0 6,9,12,15,18,21 * * *
[14:55] <Skeptix> Rory: I have just rebooted
[14:55] <Rory> Skeptix: What exact file did you edit?
[14:55] <Pici> ronin: 0 */3 * * * would be much cleaner
[14:56] <Skeptix> Rory: /etc/security/limits.conf on ubuntu 12.04.3
[14:57] <Pici> ronin: or 0 6-21/3 * * *
[14:57] <sh_> Rory: My laptop is Asus K45VD. Codec: Realtek ALC269VB, Codec: Intel PantherPoint HDMI.
[14:57] <mydog2> one other issue?? how to force/get a knew dhcp ip address
[14:58] <hugok> !raid | hugok
[14:58] <hugok> !raid
[14:58] <dNSTAR> Hello guys. In startup I get the fail: ubuntu can't open /dev/mapper/ubuntu vg-root no such file, any help please? :/
[14:58] <Rory> mydog2: sudo dhclient -r && sudo dhclient
[14:59] <Rory> mydog2: Bear in mind some DHCP servers (Such as the one in my router) will always assign the same device the same IP
[14:59] <slowe> !pxe
[15:00] <yeats> dNSTAR: did you change anything on your system before getting that error?
[15:00] <dNSTAR> Nope..
[15:01] <dNSTAR> I just got Ubuntu yesterday so...
[15:01] <dNSTAR> It has been here since this morning
[15:01] <yeats> dNSTAR: can you boot up with a live CD/USB?
[15:01] <dNSTAR> yeats: yea
[15:02] <mydog2> Rory,  - yeah.. that's what i had tried. as well as blowing away the lease files..
[15:02] <mydog2> got the same ip address..
[15:02] <yeats> dNSTAR: please do so and post back when you're up and ready
[15:03] <Rory> mydog2: So it's likely your DHCP server is remembering, and reassigning you the same IP every time
[15:03] <dNSTAR> Alright, thanks!
[15:04] <mydog2> rory - it is.. which is why i was looking for a method to test forcing the change to a new ip.. i was thinking of changing the mac
[15:06] <slowe> !installer
[15:08] <root32> I installed ubuntu 12.4 , but when it start get very long time for boot...
[15:11] <Rory> mydog2: Look in your DHCP server's settings, there's nothing you can do from the client
[15:12] <yeats> !bootchart | root32
[15:12] <yeats> root32: ^^ that should tell you where any hangs are in the boot process
[15:12] <slowe> !netboot
[15:14] <root32> ubottu: Say : sudo: Unable to resolve host (none) , why ?
[15:16] <yeats> root32: what is the output of 'cat /etc/hostname'?
[15:16] <slowe> !automate
[15:17] <yeats> !msgthebot | slowe
[15:17] <slowe> Thanks yeats
[15:20] <root32> yeats: no i typed : sudo apt-get --reinstall install dpkg
[15:20] <tirengarfio> I have two monitors, my primary monitor (where the taskbar is) has change to the other one, how can I switch?
[15:21] <tirengarfio> ok, I switch
[15:21] <tirengarfio> ed
[15:21] <zetheroo> I have been trying for many moons now to do some pretty basic video editing in Ubuntu and am getting absolutely nowhere!! I am using RecordMyDesktop to record a simple slideshow of images - this then ends up as an ogv file - I then import that file into OpenShot and cut a piece out - then it all goes to hell! The video frames are all out of sync etc ...
[15:21] <zetheroo> I have tried converting to AVI using WinFF which just ruins the quality ...
[15:22] <zetheroo> I uploaded the file to YouTube and then downloaded it as an mp4 - the video was still crisp but same issue when editing in OpenShot
[15:23] <zetheroo> Do I have to go get a Mac in order to do this simple task?!
[15:23] <yeats> root32: I wasn't asking what you typed, I was trying to see if your hostname is properly set in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[15:24] <yeats> root32: and why would you be installing/reinstalling dpkg?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> zet which player are you using for playback ?..recommend vlc , it plays most codecs and dvds without any conversion needed
[15:25] <BluesKaj> zetheroo,^
[15:25] <ActionPa1snip> zetheroo: tried a different desktop recording app? Or set record my desktop to record straight to avi etc?
[15:25] <yeats> tirengarfio: try going to Displays and see the Launcher Placement setting
[15:25] <zetheroo> BluesKaj: playback not the issue ... VLC, Xine, Movie Player ... no diff
[15:26] <zetheroo> ActionPa1snip: Avidemux can't even begin to handle mp4 or ogv ...
[15:26] <mn3na3a> question: guys does installing a lot of apps in ubuntu slows the system down?
[15:27] <zetheroo> ActionPa1snip: have not found any way to change the default video format of RMD
[15:27] <yeats> mn3na3a: depends on the apps and when/whether they are running simultaneously
[15:27] <root32> yeats: i installed ubuntu 12.4 and had very long time to boot.. : (
[15:27] <BluesKaj> zet DRM ?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> zetheroo,^
[15:27] <yeats> root32: did you install bootchart yet as ubottu suggested to you above?
[15:28] <zetheroo> BluesKaj: !?
[15:28] <root32> yeats: how to install it ?
[15:28] <mn3na3a> no i mean installing only for example if i have 200 apps installed does this affect the system?
[15:28] <yeats> !bootchart | root32
[15:28] <BluesKaj> DRM , digital rights management
[15:28] <zetheroo> BluesKaj: I know what DRM means ... but why are you bringing it up!?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> ok zetheroo nm , I'm obviously out of the loop info-wise on this one
[15:29] <root32> ubottu: ubottu: How can i type this , because my pc is not boot...  sudo apt-get install bootchart ?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> sorry for inrerrupting zetheroo cary on
[15:30] <zetheroo> BluesKaj: no worries ... DRM no issue here ... I am recording everything myself
[15:30] <yeats> !pm | mn3na3a
[15:31] <yeats> mn3na3a: my original answer still applies
[15:31] <mn3na3a> yeats: sry abt that :)
[15:32] <django> i have the .bin files, how to convert it to disk image (.iso ) files ?
[15:33] <ikonia> django: you don't
[15:33] <ikonia> django: unless it's an iso that's been renamed
[15:33] <django> no no, i have to compile an os from source code
[15:33] <django> no no, i have to compile an os from source code
[15:33] <ikonia> django: ok, go on then
[15:34] <ikonia> that's nothing to do with ubuntu/this channel
[15:34] <django> plz guide how to run it in virtual box ?
[15:34] <ikonia> run what ?
[15:34] <Giant81> I have a question.  I use linux quite a bit at home, and I seutp my brother with Ubuntu 12.04 for his desktop.  If he had problems, any easy way to get in and remote manage it?
[15:34] <django> the os executable
[15:34] <ikonia> django: it's a binary file, you execute it
[15:34] <yeats> Giant81: ssh?
[15:34] <django> i am asking how to package it into iso ?
[15:35] <Giant81> without having him have to setup a NAT
[15:35] <django> so that we can supply it to a vm
[15:35] <ikonia> django: you don't
[15:35] <django> y ?
[15:35] <ikonia> django: you'd need to extract it onto an iso file system
[15:35] <ikonia> django: it's a binary file - not an iso file
[15:35] <Giant81> I love ssh, but not sure how I get into his box with ssh from remote without a nat setup
[15:36] <Giant81> any way to do a reverse ssh session he initiates on his end and I can get into his box?
[15:36] <ikonia> Giant81: no
[15:36]  * Giant81 goes to check gotoassist
[15:36] <Giant81> I know we use gotoassist at work, do they have a linux client?
[15:36] <OerHeks> django, a .bin is a binairy file, an executable file. if this is part of your OS, we don't know.
[15:36] <ikonia> Giant81: ask them
[15:36] <django> it is the os
[15:36] <yeats> Giant81: routers usually allow port forwarding - I forward a nonstandard port on my public IP to ssh on one of my hosts in the LAN
[15:36] <django> not a part of it
[15:37] <ikonia> django: ok, so then it's up to you how you do it
[15:37] <ikonia> django: sadly, it's nothing to do with this channel/ubuntu
[15:37] <OerHeks> django so if it is an OS, it is not ubuntu. you might want to ask their support channel or forum?
[15:37] <Giant81> yeats, oh I know, I'm a network engineer, and I may just do that for him next time I'm there, I just don't see him being able to loginto his router and set it up himself
[15:37] <yeats> Giant81: understood
[15:37] <django> Ok, here is the situation >> I have written a basic kernel in C, now i want its iso disk image
[15:38] <ikonia> django: then do it
[15:38] <ikonia> django: make an iso file system - but it on, done
[15:38] <django> how to ?
[15:38] <django> give any utils
[15:38] <ikonia> django: this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[15:38] <ikonia> django: I think you need to research it
[15:38] <Rory> !ot | django
[15:38] <django> i am on ubuntu 12.04
[15:38]  * Giant81 wishes his bother had an ASA, I'd just setup an ssl vpn into his network, then I can connect to that then ssh into his box without allowing the ssh port to sit open on the internet :) but we work with what we have
[15:39] <ikonia> django: yes, and telling you how to build your own kernel boot iso is nothing to do with ubuntu
[15:44] <zetheroo> Thankfully I have my ol' Win XP VM to do some video editing on :P
[15:45] <varunendra> zetheroo, what application do you use on it for the editing?
[15:46] <zetheroo> varunendra: I had used AVS on it before ...
[15:46] <zetheroo> just updating it now ...
[15:46] <bariho> does rsync work well over curlftpfs? are there ftp clients, that have rsync-like behavior?
[15:47] <varunendra> zetheroo, AVS? Abbrevation to actually some other name?
[15:48] <varunendra> zetheroo, the only AVS I remember is Avid Video Studio, which is overkill for a simple cut/slice
[15:50] <schnitzl> is it possible to run a bash script IN a directory from another directory.
[15:51] <schnitzl> the script wants to run something.exe (without path to something.exe). i am in ~ and type: /patch/to/sript/RUN.sh
[15:51] <varunendra> schnitzl, is "cd <target dir> && <script>" not possible?
[15:52] <schnitzl> possible. but me no want that ;)
[15:52] <schnitzl> ahh wait
[15:52] <schnitzl> mabye. let me try
[15:52] <schnitzl> its in rc.local if this helps
[15:52] <schnitzl> wanna run a script at startup...
[15:53] <varunendra> .exe ?
[15:53] <schnitzl> yea. no win. downt worry.
[15:53] <schnitzl> just the developers style. no idea why
[15:54] <varunendra> so what is in rc.local? "/patch/to/sript/RUN.sh" ?
[15:54]  * LinuxGold looks around.
[15:55] <schnitzl> in rc.local is /usr/share/openra/start.sh
[15:55] <m-f> hi
[15:55] <m-f> how to add the facebook chat to pidgin
[15:55] <schnitzl> the script executes a server
[15:56] <p5yx> hey i've want my ls be aliased with ls --color=auto. so i've added the line to my .bashrc and logged in again. then i got the error: -bash: alias: --color: Not found. Any ideas?
[15:56] <m-f> xubuntu 12.04
[15:56] <p5yx> if i type in ls --color manually everything is fine....
[15:56] <schnitzl> but the file to execute is without path
[15:57] <varunendra> schnitzl, is this server executable named <something>.exe ?
[15:57] <schnitzl> yep
[15:57] <UserName> My GParted fails to recognize the swap partition after I boot to Windows 8 and reboot to Ubuntu. Any ideas why this happens?
[15:57] <zetheroo> varunendra: AVS Video Editor
[15:57] <m-f> did someone saw my question?
[15:58] <schnitzl> m-f http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Pidgin
[15:58] <m-f> ty
[15:58] <varunendra> schnitzl, so what is the problem in adding "cd <location of the .exe>" before the line in rc.local?
[15:59] <UserName> It is strange because the swap partition remains functional on reboot.
[15:59] <varunendra> UserName, and when does it recognizes it?
[15:59] <varunendra> recognize*
[15:59] <schnitzl> so you mean...: "cd /usr/share/openra/ && start.sh"
[15:59] <UserName> varunendra:  After I delete the swap partition, and reboot and then format it to swap partition again.
[15:59] <schnitzl> this should execute start.sh in /usr/share/openra/
[15:59] <schnitzl> right?
[16:00] <varunendra> schnitzl, if the .exe is in that directory, then yes
[16:00] <varunendra> yes
[16:01] <schnitzl> ok. but if i type that in the console from, lets say ~. it wont work.
[16:01] <UserName> So basically, whenever I boot to Windows, the disk manager loses the ability to recognize the swap partition.
[16:01] <schnitzl> cant find command "start.sh"
[16:01] <varunendra> UserName, you have changed the UUID of swap. You need to change it in the fstab file accordingly.
[16:02] <m-f> it was fukin frencgh site
[16:02] <p5yx> hey i've want my ls be aliased with ls --color=auto. so i've added the line to my .bashrc and logged in again. then i got the error: -bash: alias: --color: Not found. Any ideas?
[16:02] <p5yx> if i type in ls --color manually everything is fine....
[16:02] <varunendra> schnitzl, try ""cd /usr/share/openra/ && ./start.sh""
[16:02] <UserName> Okay, let me check varunendra .
[16:02] <schnitzl> m-f haha sorry mate. it is german. i cant even see the differance anymore
[16:02] <schnitzl> yay varunendra you are the man...thank you. :D
[16:03] <m-f> :D
[16:03] <m-f> it didnt help me at all
[16:03] <m-f> :D
[16:03] <schnitzl> m-f but search for yourself, there should be somekind of the same page in your language.
[16:03] <m-f> wheres the ebglish lang button :D
[16:03] <drew__> where can i find help on juju
[16:03] <schnitzl> i bet english speaking ubunt community has its own wiki ;)
[16:04] <yeats> !pidgin | m-f
[16:04] <oaulakh> how to copy folder to /usr/share/themes folder?
[16:05] <UserName> varunendra:  The UUID shouldn't change when I boot to Windows, right?
[16:05] <yeats> p5yx: I would assume there's a typo in what you added to .bashrc
[16:05] <UserName> varunendra:  I think the /etc/fstab file entry gets automatically updated.
[16:05] <varunendra> UserName, yes, although anything is possible with win8 ;P
[16:05] <zykotick9> UserName: /etc/fstab is NOT updated...
[16:06] <varunendra> UserName, as far as I know, it does not
[16:06] <oaulakh> how to copy folder to /usr/share/themes folder?
[16:06] <oaulakh> how to copy folder to /usr/share/themes folder?
[16:06] <UserName> zykotick9:  Strange, because it runs mkswap during the operation. But I will check it again.
[16:07] <threex5> Is there a GUI that will actually search in hidden folders? It works with find -name in CLI but I get nothing with Nautilus or with Gnome Search tool. I'm running Ubuntu classic 12.04.
[16:07] <tga> greetings. does anyone happen to know whether it's possible to do nat traversal for ssh so that after the handshake the machines communicate directly?
[16:07] <varunendra> oaulakh, what folder? What is your objective. Providing details may get you some help
[16:07] <UserName> varunendra:  Yes, I have been thinking, maybe it's because of the Secure Boot feature? Then again, changing of UUID doesn't quite seem legit.
[16:07] <zykotick9> UserName: a suggestion = when you mkswap you can assign a LABEL, then use a LABEL in fstab rather then UUID...
[16:08] <varunendra> UserName, like I said - 'anything' is possible with win8... :D
[16:08] <UserName> zykotick9:  Hmm, thanks, sounds good.
[16:08] <oaulakh> i want to change my theme, so i download one from deviant art "nord" theme
[16:08] <hugok> hi guie
[16:08] <UserName> Thanks folks.
[16:08] <oaulakh> now i want to place that folder in themes folder under /usr/share/themes
[16:08] <varunendra> UserName, try rebooting instead of shutting down win8. That way it won't save drive snapshot
[16:08] <UserName> I will be back to bug youse if it doesn't work out though :D
[16:09] <oaulakh> varunendra : i want to change my theme, so i download one from deviant art "nord" theme
[16:09] <UserName> varunendra:  I have quick shutdown feature turned off.
[16:09] <oaulakh> varunendra : now i want to place that folder in themes folder under /usr/share/themes
[16:09] <Forsevin> oaulakh, ok...
[16:09] <Forsevin> oaulakh, is there a problem doing so?
[16:10] <varunendra> oaulakh, I have never tried that myself. Are you sure just copying the folder will add the theme?
[16:10] <oaulakh> yeah its shows me "cp: cannot stat ‘Nord’: No such file or directory"
[16:10] <p5yx> yeats: i didn't add anything, just copied the bashrc from /etc/skel/.bashrc
[16:11] <oaulakh> yeah its shows me "cp: cannot stat ‘Nord’: No such file or directory"
[16:11] <Forsevin> oaulakh, there's obviously something you're doing wrong here.
[16:12] <varunendra> oaulakh, you can open the file manager with root access, then simply copy --> browse to /usr/share/themes --> paste it.
[16:12] <oaulakh> then please tell me what i'm doing wrong here?
[16:12] <yeats> p5yx: can you pastebin your ~/.bashrc?
[16:12] <Forsevin> oaulakh, It's hard saying, make sure the file actually existing, $ ls?
[16:12] <oaulakh> how to open file manager with root aceess
[16:12] <varunendra> oaulakh, are you using Nautilus (default Ubuntu file manager)?
[16:12] <Forsevin> sudo <your filemanager>
[16:12] <oaulakh> yes file is there
[16:13] <varunendra> Forsevin, gksu
[16:13] <zykotick9> Forsevin: NO!  don't use sudo with GUI apps!  it's important.  see "/msg ubottu gksudo" for details why.
[16:13] <oaulakh> yes file is there man
[16:13] <p5yx> yeats: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6146138/
[16:13] <Forsevin> zykotick9 Guess you always learn something new, never given me any problems however.
[16:14] <varunendra> oaulakh, is it default Ubuntu? Or something else (xubuntu, lubuntu...)
[16:14] <varunendra> Forsevin, it's just a bad practice
[16:14] <zykotick9> p5yx: you have line 78, for the ls color alias (which is there by default)
[16:14] <oaulakh> yeah i'm using default ubuntu file manager 13.04
[16:15] <Forsevin> oaulakh, how do you attempt copying the file?
[16:15] <varunendra> oaulakh, then press Alt+F2 --> type "gksu nautilus" --> press Enter
[16:16] <oaulakh> ok
[16:16] <varunendra> oaulakh, be VERY CAREFUL when you are running the file manager as root. Don't do anything other than what you have opened it for
[16:16] <yeats> p5yx: hmm - that works fine for me
[16:16] <p5yx> zykotick9: ehm i know but it doesn't work...
[16:17] <p5yx> yeats: i'll reboot
[16:17] <zykotick9> p5yx: if you type "alias" do you see it?  what terminal are you using?
[16:17] <yeats> p5yx: '. ~/.bashrc' should do it
[16:17] <NeoKarna> varunendra, there's a big article explaining why you shouldn't use gksu, but it is easier for newbies
[16:17] <p5yx> zykotick9: just tty right now...
[16:17] <zykotick9> yeats: does . work the same as source?
[16:18] <oaulakh> nothing is happing
[16:18] <yeats> zykotick9: yep
[16:18] <oaulakh> nothing is happning
[16:18] <p5yx> yeats: i did. i'm root but that shouldn't matter right?
[16:18] <varunendra> oaulakh, didn't the file manager open?
[16:18] <zykotick9> p5yx: console, hummm.  colour certainly works for me?  well, good luck.
[16:18] <oaulakh> no
[16:18] <p5yx> zykotick9: thx
[16:18] <oaulakh> its not opening
[16:18] <varunendra> NeoKarna, gksu or sudo?
[16:18] <zykotick9> p5yx: root is different, no colour by default.  DON'T USE ROOT LOGIN.
[16:19] <NeoKarna> varunendra,  gksu ;)
[16:19] <varunendra> oaulakh, please show us exactly what you typed in the "Alt+F2" box
[16:19] <varunendra> NeoKarna, link please?
[16:19] <oaulakh> gksu nautilus
[16:19] <p5yx> zykotick9: why not?
[16:20] <p5yx> zykotick9: you're not talking about security reasons here are you?
[16:20] <zykotick9> p5yx: do you want colour?  if so, then log in as a user.
[16:20] <zykotick9> p5yx: ubuntu was designed to NOT use root account.  see "/msg ubottu notroot" for details.
[16:20] <oaulakh> varunendra, gksu nautilus
[16:20] <NeoKarna> varunendra,  sorry got that wrong, it was sudo ;)
[16:20] <varunendra> oaulakh, I read somewhere that gksu is not installed by default in 13.04, maybe it's true. Try "gksudo nautilus" instead
[16:21] <p5yx> zykotick9: i'm using it in qemu for developing purposes.
[16:21] <varunendra> NewWeek, the psychocat tutorials ? :P
[16:21] <p5yx> zykotick9: therefore i need root access
[16:21] <NeoKarna> oaulakh,  varunendra  gksudo always works with me
[16:21] <zykotick9> varunendra: fyi, gksudo is actually just an alias of gksu ;)  can't have one without the other.
[16:21] <p5yx> zykotick9: why shouldn't colors work for root?
[16:21] <oaulakh> its open thanks
[16:21] <p5yx> zykotick9: if i type in ls --color it works without any problem.
[16:21] <zykotick9> p5yx: if you're using root, i'm not interested in helping.  best of luck to you.
[16:21] <UserName> zykotick9:  Do I replace the volume UUID with the label in /etc/fstab file?
[16:22] <varunendra> zykotick9, was a shot in the dark, thanks for clearing up ;)
[16:22] <zykotick9> UserName: ya, LABEL=foo
[16:22] <p5yx> zykotick9: did you even read my posts?
[16:22] <oaulakh> but its not pasing nord folder in themes
[16:22] <p5yx> zykotick9: i need root for developing purposes...
[16:22] <oaulakh> but its not pasting nord folder in themes
[16:22] <UserName> zykotick9:  Oh, you mean, "LABEL" instead of "UUID", right?
[16:23] <zykotick9> UserName: yes, you won't need UUID after the LABEL is working.
[16:23] <NeoKarna> oaulakh,  you should be able to paste without any problem
[16:23] <igw3> #offsec
[16:23] <oaulakh> its not
[16:23] <igw3> ping
[16:23] <p5yx> zykotick9: it's just a qemu guest. what should be dangerous about it?
[16:23] <NeoKarna> oaulakh,  where is your nord folder ?
[16:23] <varunendra> oaulakh, just right-click in the themes folder (any blank area inside the folder). Do you see "Create New Folder" option enabled?
[16:24] <oaulakh> in download folder
[16:24] <varunendra> oaulakh, could you browse to it?
[16:25] <NeoKarna> oaulakh,  please follow these steps:
[16:25] <oaulakh> ok
[16:25] <oaulakh> tell me
[16:25] <varunendra> oaulakh, if you copied it in the normal mode, it is not in 'Your' clipboard at present. You have to copy it from 'This' file manager
[16:25] <NeoKarna> oaulakh,  1. open a terminal
[16:25] <oaulakh> ok
[16:25] <oaulakh> then
[16:25] <varunendra> :P
[16:25] <NeoKarna> oaulakh,  2.type "gksudo nautilus"
[16:25] <p5yx> hm ok i got it just in case someone is interessted. moving .bashrc to /etc/bash.bashrc fixed the problem for the root user
[16:26] <NeoKarna> oaulakh, hit enter and type your password
[16:26] <oaulakh> command not found
[16:27] <NeoKarna> oaulakh,  then "sudo apt-get install gksudo"
[16:27] <oaulakh> ok
[16:27] <oaulakh> its installed then
[16:28] <zykotick9> NeoKarna: gksudo is in the gksu package!  oaulakh
[16:28] <varunendra> looks like it is "gksu" NeoKarna
[16:28] <varunendra> ^^ ;P
[16:28] <oaulakh> its installed then
[16:28] <oaulakh> its open root file manager
[16:28] <fahadash> Is there anything we can do about this burgundy/maroon background in ubuntu? Its so uncool
[16:29] <oaulakh> yes its man
[16:29] <varunendra> oaulakh, what opened root file manager? Did you already install it and run "gksu nautilus"?
[16:29] <oaulakh> yes its done man
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> fahadash  you can change the !theme, or just the background colour
[16:29] <NeoKarna> oaulakh,  then go to filesystem-> home->"folder with your username" -> Downloads-> Copy the folder again
[16:29] <oaulakh> thanks very much
[16:30] <fahadash> MonkeyDust: It appears at the startup welcome screen, can we change that ?
[16:30] <NeoKarna> varunendra,  gksu and gksudo are same atleast in ubuntu ;)
[16:30] <varunendra> oaulakh, close all instances of root file manager as soon as you are done. Enjoy :)
[16:30] <oaulakh> now where i see my new theme that i recently paste
[16:30] <oaulakh> to apply
[16:30] <oaulakh> yeah i closed man
[16:30] <fahadash> My wallpapere is not the same size as screen, so that color appears on the sides;
[16:30] <pmenon> hey folks, adobe acrobat prints a multi-page pdf on a single page .. any idea how to solve ?
[16:31] <varunendra> NeoKarna, but the package names are apparently not
[16:31] <NeoKarna> oaulakh,  you would  probably get that in system settings-> appearance-> select the theme
[16:31] <fahadash> Who chose that maroon color to be background ?
[16:32] <oaulakh> it does not show me that theme
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> fahadash  i guess ubuntu-tweak let's you change the login background http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[16:32] <NeoKarna> varunendra,  gksudo is just a symbolic link to gksu http://askubuntu.com/questions/21033/what-is-the-difference-between-gksudo-and-gksu
[16:32] <fahadash> MonkeyDust: Is it hard to do ?
[16:32] <varunendra> oaulakh, you may have to log off, then re-login
[16:32] <oaulakh> ok
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> fahadash  explore ubuntu-tweak a bit
[16:32] <oaulakh> well try
[16:33] <bariho> is there something like rsync, that works well over ftp? mirroring, basically. a gui ftp client that can do that would be nice.
[16:33] <varunendra> NeoKarna, yes I know that (now), I was talking about the package name (to be used with "apt-get install..")
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> bariho  there's grsync
[16:33] <NeoKarna> varunendra,  ;)
[16:33] <fahadash> MonkeyDust: Thanks
[16:34] <oaulakh> it still showing nothing new
[16:34] <NeoKarna> oaulakh,  also paste the theme folder in .themes folder which is a hidden folder (Ctrl +h to show hidden folder) in home
[16:34] <oaulakh> ok
[16:35] <varunendra> oaulakh, did you follow some tutorial? Like I said before, I've never tried this myself, so not sure if just copying the folder will be all.
[16:35] <NeoKarna> oaulakh,  if .themes is not present create it
[16:36] <oaulakh> yeah i create iit and paste theme in it
[16:36] <oaulakh> then?
[16:37] <NeoKarna> oaulakh,  if you still can't see the theme in appearance, let me know
[16:38] <oaulakh> yeah i cant see it
[16:38] <oaulakh> NeoKarna, yeah i cant see it
[16:39] <NeoKarna> oaulakh,  follow this link  http://askubuntu.com/questions/213697/how-can-i-install-themes
[16:39] <oaulakh> okkk
[16:40] <chaotic_good> can I run windows 2012 on KVM? or XEN? what is that command to check if my cpu is KVM friendly?
[16:40] <Fudus> or gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface gtk-theme "CoolestThemeOnEarth"
[16:40] <Fudus> change CoolestTheme to name of the folder you put in .themes
[16:41] <zykotick9> chaotic_good: cat /proc/cpuinfo | egrep '(vmx|svm)'
[16:41] <compdoc> chaotic_good, try the command:  kvm-ok
[16:41] <NeoKarna> oaulakh,  also remember that not all themes work well under unity. Be careful, installing themes  are risky. Also be careful with ubuntu tweak.
[16:42] <oaulakh> okkk thanks
[16:43] <NeoKarna> oaulakh,  :)
[16:43] <oaulakh> NeoKarna, ;)
[16:44] <Fudus> oaulakh: you can use gsettings directly without needed to instead tweak
[16:46] <NeoKarna> Fudus,  wow I didn't know about gsettings. I've used ubuntu tweak and myunity(not available for 13.04 :(). Thanks for mentioning it.
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> NeoKarna  in 13.04, myunity is called unity-tweak-tool
[16:49] <NeoKarna> MonkeyDust,  thanks , I didn't know that. I haven't used 13.04 yet. I currently use elementary(based on ubuntu 12.04 LTS)
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> NeoKarna  mind: elementary is not supported here
[16:50] <NeoKarna> MonkeyDust,  it is a stripped version of 12.04 LTS ;)
[16:50] <NeoKarna> MonkeyDust,  with a cooler interface
[16:51] <avnish> how to initalise / in regular expression in php
[16:51] <chaotic_good> $ kvm-ok
[16:51] <chaotic_good> INFO: Your CPU does not support KVM extensions
[16:51] <zaggynl> hi, anyone here using Evolution? I can t get my gmail account to show up
[16:51] <chaotic_good> fail
[16:51] <zaggynl> its synchronizing but no johndoe@gmail.com in the left pane
[16:51] <NeoKarna> MonkeyDust,  Ubuntu Tweak Tool is not like MyUnity of 12.04 or 12.10. It looks different.
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> NeoKarna  true, it's morfe elaborate
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> more*
[16:54] <Fudus> tweak tool was called Mechanig, there are 3+ unity tweak utilties
[16:56] <NeoKarna> MonkeyDust, do you mean by 3+ tweak utility in unity tweak tool ?
[16:57] <Fudus> unsettings,ubuntu-tweak,myunity,unity-tweak-tool
[16:57] <Fudus> and of course ccsm ;)
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> NeoKarna  yes, there are plenty tweak tools
[16:58] <NeoKarna> Fudus,  thanks !
[16:58] <NeoKarna> MonkeyDust,  ;)
[16:58] <Fudus> gnome 3 has the boringly named gnome-tweak-tool which also can do gtk theme changes on unity
[17:01] <NeoKarna> Fudus,  I knew about MyUnity , Ubuntu-Tweak only. gnome-tweak-tool , thanks for mentioning it.
[17:03] <NeoKarna> quit
[17:03] <chaotic_good> iceWM
[17:03] <chaotic_good> pidgin
[17:05] <zetheroo> after a power outage I rebooted my PC and got this message: "Network service discovery disabled. You current network has a .local  domain, which is not recommended and incompatible with the Avahi network  service discovery. The service has been disabled" - I rebooted and the message no longer shows up but now I cannot view any network shares ...
[17:07] <fede> Tullo hola..
[17:15] <yeats> chaotic_good: you may need to enable virt extensions in your BIOS
[17:15] <chaotic_good> oow
[17:15] <chaotic_good> thats interesting
[17:16] <reisio> to do whatses?
[17:19] <CountryfiedLinux> Will all apps that work on Ubuntu also work on Ubuntu Touch? And if not yet, is that what the new package format will be all about?
[17:19] <reisio> CountryfiedLinux: not all, but most, technically
[17:20] <CountryfiedLinux> reisio, Like Kdenlive for video editing and pavucontrol and ffmpeg, stuff like that?
[17:20] <reisio> CountryfiedLinux: what format are you talking about, though? :)
[17:21] <CountryfiedLinux> reisio, The new Ubuntu package format coming out for 13.10 touch and 14.10 desktop.
[17:21] <reisio> CountryfiedLinux: the primary limiting factor will be things that aren't readily built on arm
[17:21] <reisio> CountryfiedLinux: which is called?
[17:21] <CountryfiedLinux> reisio, I forgot
[17:21] <reisio> this? https://click-package.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
[17:22] <reisio> that doesn't seem like a new format so much as a modified version of the existing format
[17:22] <reisio> but it's impossible to tell from this vague propaganda
[17:23] <LordAioria> one question .. i have installed jailkit, i have created a user into jailkit ... then i have tried to enter with this user using SSH and i received this error : ERROR: failed to execute shell /bin/bash for user XXXX check the permissions and libraries of /opt/jail//bin/bash . i see that at my folder /opt/jail there isn't any bin folder... i have used jk_cp -v -f /opt/jail /bin/bash
[17:23] <CountryfiedLinux> reisio, well new something to make it easier for devs to make apps for Ubuntu.
[17:24] <LordAioria> now i can enter with my user using SSH but ... when i have tried to use a LS command it says : not command found ..
[17:24] <reisio> CountryfiedLinux: I don't know about that, it's probably intended to make it "easier" for people to think of .deb's as something like .apk's
[17:24] <LordAioria> how can i solve this situation? i saw that into /opt/jail there isn't any opt folder
[17:24] <CountryfiedLinux> Here it is http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20130909#news
[17:24] <daftykins> LordAioria: are you sure BASH is supposed to remain as the default shell for whatever you're trying to do? surely there's documentation for whatever you're using
[17:24] <CountryfiedLinux> reisio, ^
[17:24] <CountryfiedLinux> click packages
[17:25] <LordAioria> [daftykins] i was following this guide: http://www.binarytides.com/setup-a-jail-shell-with-jailkit-on-ubuntu/
[17:26] <reisio> CountryfiedLinux: sounds like it's intended for rudimentary "apps" of the sort people like for phones
[17:26] <reisio> like angry birds and todo lists
[17:26] <LordAioria> but following it ... i have this situation
[17:26] <reisio> terrible name, click packages
[17:26] <reisio> sounds like an awful reinterpretation of .bin's
[17:26] <CountryfiedLinux> Well names for Ubuntu stuff tend to be terrible haha
[17:27] <reisio> AKA random unmanaged installers like on Windows
[17:27] <reisio> anyways
[17:27] <CountryfiedLinux> I dunno
[17:27] <reisio> like I said, the major limiting factor will be the arm arch, vs x86/etc.
[17:27] <reisio> most software is portable across all, and has already been ported
[17:27] <reisio> some isn't
[17:28] <jophish_> Yo yo yo
[17:28] <reisio> yo
[17:28] <jophish_> Just booted up this "ubuntu software center", The banner ad at the top for "Don't Starve" features the words "Now available on steam"...
[17:29] <LordAioria> is there any guide that could help me to create a jail one group of people (SSH and SFTP) into one folder (using ubuntu) ????
[17:29] <reisio> LordAioria: rssh kind of does that
[17:30] <LordAioria> i will search for it
[17:31] <LordAioria> because it's the first time that i see it
[17:32] <LordAioria> [reisio] but is only scp and sftp ... what happends with ssh?
[17:33] <eb0t> hi guys i just wanted to know ....is fecking ubuntu ....fecking spyware
[17:33] <reisio> eb0t: not really
[17:34] <zykotick9> eb0t: that isn't a technical question, thus it's Offtopic for this channel.
[17:34] <reisio> eb0t: it comes with software that helps amazon sell you things
[17:34] <ThanatosOfOne> I cannot get my ubuntu 13.04 server networking configured for static IP
[17:34] <eb0t> ah right
[17:34] <reisio> which is lame, but not exactly a surprise
[17:34] <zykotick9> ThanatosOfOne: are you using /etc/network/interfaces or Network Manager?
[17:34] <ThanatosOfOne> My /etc/network/interfaces file appears to be set properly, yet it will not start
[17:34] <eb0t> zykotick9 fecking spyware is fecking spyware...no matter how you write it
[17:34] <reisio> when you search for something and amazon results come up, you know why
[17:35] <reisio> :)
[17:35] <ThanatosOfOne> zyk Interfaces
[17:35] <zykotick9> ThanatosOfOne: paste.ubuntu.com your /e/n/interfaces
[17:35] <eb0t> you cant get more technial that THAT
[17:35] <eeos> hi everybody .... I have a ralink rt2500 wireless card and I cannot make it work
[17:35] <eeos> anyone who knows where I can find instructions?
[17:35] <zykotick9> eb0t: trust me, I'm NOT defending ubuntu/canonical.  just don't want these discussion type questions in #u
[17:36] <eb0t> thrw your fecking wireless card ...in the fecking bin
[17:36] <eb0t> sorry guys im just practticing a new troll technique.
[17:36] <DJones> eb0t: Mind the language
[17:36] <ThanatosOfOne> lets see if I can get it in here
[17:36] <boneslash> you are so rude eb0t :(
[17:38] <chemicalrage> Guys I need some help installing Ubuntu
[17:38] <chemicalrage> is anyone here?
[17:38] <hio> why is ubuntu so shitty? holy fuck, I cant even use the mousewheel to scroll through my unity list, it's like this entire distro was made by paid zombies
[17:39] <Benkinooby> chemicalrage: just ask your question here :)
[17:39] <chemicalrage> I am trying to dual boot Windows 8 and Ubuntu 12.04 on a HP laptop. What should I choose as the bootloader
[17:40] <eb0t> agreed hio...at least yours works ...poor eeos had to throw his wireless card in the fecking bin
[17:40] <chemicalrage> theres a 199MB system partition
[17:40] <chemicalrage> and a C drive which was used to install windows 8
[17:40] <Benkinooby> chemicalrage: grub - the windows boot loader will not recognize ubuntu. but you have to mind UEFI
[17:40] <swcdx> hi, is there a samba check list for ubuntu? I have tried everything and even mimicked another share. it's still telling me access denied under windows. I have it set to guest okay and my permissions on the share are at 777. any suggestions? TY
[17:40] <chemicalrage> Yup, the grub
[17:41] <chemicalrage> where does it belong
[17:41] <chemicalrage> in the system partition or C drive
[17:41] <Impossible> where do i find peerguardian build dependencies on ubuntu
[17:41] <Benkinooby> chemicalrage: no, it belongs to the master boot record
[17:42] <chemicalrage> The thing is I am trying to use 3 partitions - 1 for root, 1 for home and 1 for swap
[17:42] <chemicalrage> just a sec I ll send a screenshot
[17:42] <swcdx> LOL
[17:42] <swcdx> figured out my problem
[17:42] <h00k> hio: please keep the language appropriate in here
[17:42] <chaotic_good> WINE is really good wow
[17:42] <chaotic_good> 0 bs
[17:42] <chaotic_good> WOW
[17:43] <ThePendulum> How can I access a USB stick from an SSH session?
[17:43] <h00k> ThePendulum: if it's mounted remotely, it should come up in /media/devicenamehere
[17:44] <ThePendulum> oof
[17:44] <ThePendulum> Doesn't seem to be
[17:44] <eb0t> you see chemical rage ...what you really should do is install linux first and put your grub bootloader on ..and then install windows on a later partition
[17:44] <ThePendulum> Someone is showing a presentation using our media center, and we expect him to be a traitor
[17:44] <deepblue>  http://mibpaste.com/f0IjmS , i wanna delete thid line : Windows NT/2000/XP (loader) on /dev/sda1
[17:45] <null0> anyone know GRE and source NAT'ing in ubunto?
[17:45] <eb0t> windows doesnt like other systems being on the same disk
[17:45] <boneslash> I agree with ebot :D :D
[17:45] <chemicalrage> http://i.imgur.com/u02VmSX.jpg
[17:45] <chemicalrage> sorry for the late reply
[17:45] <Benkinooby> chemicalrage: np
[17:46] <chemicalrage> ignore the virtual box
[17:46] <eb0t> and if you try to put your grub bootloader where your windows bootloader is...then your windows wont work any more
[17:46] <chemicalrage> i just want to know what should go in the bootloader section
[17:46] <zykotick9> eb0t: fyi, it's a lot easier to install windows first, then ubuntu...  or windows is gonna overwrite grub
[17:46] <ThePendulum> It says a device is mounted to /media/simenon/44D6-68A0
[17:46] <ThePendulum> But I can't access that location for some reason, it doesn't exist
[17:46] <oaulakh> how to remove unity title bar?
[17:46] <eb0t> zykotick9 fyi ...no it isnt
[17:46] <oaulakh> how to remove unity title bar?
[17:46] <Benkinooby> chemicalrage: um, i think you said dualboot - where is your windows?
[17:47] <reisio> oaulakh: are you trying to remove unity title bar?
[17:47] <eb0t> no it wont overwrite grub at all
[17:47] <chemicalrage> its in the C drive
[17:47] <oaulakh> yeah i want
[17:47] <eb0t> if you know what your doing and partition your drive correctly
[17:47] <oaulakh> to
[17:47] <chemicalrage> should I use that partition
[17:47] <ThePendulum> Nevermind, got it
[17:47] <DJones> eb0t: Stop giving bad advice, Windows will overwrite grub if its installed after Ubuntu
[17:47] <oaulakh> how to remove unity title bar?
[17:47] <oaulakh> how to remove unity title bar?
[17:47] <Benkinooby> chemicalrage: um, are you sure you know what you are doing? on this partition layout you posted, there will be no windows
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> !repeat | oaulakh
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Djones: you can reinstate it with livecd....
[17:48] <DJones> ActionParsnip: I know
[17:48] <chemicalrage> yup I know this is just a sample screenshot of a a virtual box installation
[17:48] <chemicalrage> To ask my doubt
[17:48] <g105b> Can anyone help me work out where to start debugging why my laptop insists of hanging for 5-10 seconds every so often? It only happens in Ubuntu, it's a really new laptop.
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Djones : so it's not wholly bad
[17:48] <loss> g105b, tail  -f /var/log/syslog
[17:49] <Benkinooby> chemicalrage: ok - so usually ou want to install it on /dev/sdX
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> G105b: check ram using Memtest86 from Grub
[17:49] <Benkinooby> chemicalrage: no numbers at the end
[17:49] <chemicalrage> ok
[17:49] <chemicalrage> what exactly is the 199MB system partition
[17:49] <Benkinooby> chemicalrage: if there is only sdX it means the MDR of that hard disk. if there is a number, like sdX2 it means the second partition
[17:49] <g105b> My initial idea is that the hang is something todo with the hard drive ... happens when I'm torrenting or saving large photographs in gimp.
[17:49] <deepblue>  http://mibpaste.com/f0IjmS , i wanna delete thid line : Windows NT/2000/XP (loader) on /dev/sda1
[17:50] <reisio> chemicalrage: for Windows?
[17:50] <chemicalrage> yup
[17:50] <reisio> hang on
[17:50] <chemicalrage> okay
[17:51] <Benkinooby> deepblue: why do you want to delete it?
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[17:51] <ActionParsnip> G105b : run an fsck from livecd as well. You may want to test the drive using manufacturers tool on the ultimate boot cd
[17:51] <reisio> sorry, crazy lawnmowers outside
[17:52] <Benkinooby> deepblue: do you have windows XP still installed on sda1?
[17:52] <reisio> chemicalrage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_partition_and_boot_partition
[17:52] <chemicalrage> thanks lemme chk it out
[17:52] <deepblue> Benkinooby: yep
[17:52] <reisio> chemicalrage: basically it's just a Microsoft oddity without EFI, and with EFI it doubles as the EFI partition, AIUI
[17:52] <chemicalrage> So thats not the bootloader?
[17:52] <Benkinooby> deepblue: well then i guess you want to make it work again, instead of removing it, no?
[17:52] <deepblue> Benkinooby: i mean no
[17:52] <reisio> sometimes they also double as rescue partitions
[17:53] <reisio> chemicalrage: partitions aren't boot loaders, sometimes they hold them, however
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Windows xp is eol on 1st April 2014.
[17:53] <chemicalrage> thats what is confusing me
[17:53] <deepblue> Benkinooby: IT'S MOUNTED ON /SDB1
[17:53] <chemicalrage> is there anyway to know where the bootloader is on Windows 8?
[17:53] <chemicalrage> via cmd or anythign?
[17:53] <reisio> chemicalrage: in the first partition
[17:54] <deepblue> Benkinooby:  in /dev/sdb1
[17:54] <chemicalrage> just a sec I ll send u a screenshot
[17:54] <Benkinooby> chemicalrage: think of it this ways: you have the BOOT MANAGER in the MASTERBOOTRECORD. that manager then chooses the BOOTLOADER. usually the boot loader is also placed in or close to the master boot record. but its also common to place the boot loader of each specific OS in the start of the partition of that OS.
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Chemicalrage: sudo update-grub ,may show the Windows version
[17:55] <Benkinooby> chemicalrage: power on -> boot manager -> boot loader -> operating system
[17:55] <Benkinooby> chemicalrage: many bootloaders are bootmanagers at the same time, so the borders are not very clear
[17:55] <deepblue> Benkinooby:  i want 2 delete this line:Windows NT/2000/XP (loader) on /dev/sda1
[17:55] <chemicalrage> http://i.imgur.com/76xY8FD.png
[17:56] <Benkinooby> deepblue: i know - but your statements are contradicting
[17:56] <deepblue> Benkinooby: ,sorry,didn't mean 2
[17:56] <Benkinooby> deepblue: so now, what is currently in sda1 ?=
[17:56] <ThanatosOfOne> Screw it, I am burnin this VM and starting over
[17:57] <deepblue> Benkinooby: nothing in /dev/sda1
[17:57] <Benkinooby> deepblue: if there was nothing, there wouldn't be a win XP boot loader
[17:57] <chemicalrage> This is my windows 8 installation
[17:57] <chemicalrage> that manager then chooses the BOOTLOADER
[17:57] <Benkinooby> deepblue: reformat that partition
[17:57] <chemicalrage> oops sec
[17:57] <chemicalrage> http://i.imgur.com/76xY8FD.png
[17:58] <deepblue> Benkinooby:  it's an old installation of windows which i deleted a long time ago
[17:59] <Benkinooby> deepblue: ok. reformat that partition. that should kill the boot loader in that partition. then do update-grub
[18:00] <deepblue> Benkinooby:  i can't format it.i have files in it
[18:00] <blaboom> Took a long-ish hiatus from ubuntu dev, read an article about Ubuntu being the future of gaming. What changed?
[18:00] <chemicalrage> ?
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> deepblue  backup first
[18:00] <deepblue> Benkinooby: i haven't got the space
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> Deepblue: usb storage is cheap
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> Deepblue : if the drive ide fails. Where is your data?
[18:01] <deepblue> Benkinooby: it's 63 GB
[18:02] <Benkinooby> deepblue: hm, i think you have three ways: [1] remove the boot loader (i don't know how to do that) [2] mabye you can set that partition to be ignored by grub. i think grub has a ignore list [3] mabye it is sufficent to remove that bootable-flag from that partition (you can do that with fdisk)
[18:02] <Natural> reformat
[18:02] <Natural> thats it
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Benkinooby: could use dd to zero the mbr (risky)
[18:03] <chemicalrage> @Benkinooby could u determine which partition has the bootloader from this screenshot please - http://i.imgur.com/76xY8FD.png
[18:03] <Benkinooby> ActionParsnip: i thought about that too, but i don't want to recommend that to others. i am helping deepblue
[18:03] <deepblue> i wanna do it by means of editing boot.cfg
[18:03] <eeos> eb0t: why? is it impossible to use it?
[18:04] <deepblue> or whatever nessecary other file
[18:04] <Benkinooby> deepblue: hm, do you use grub or grub2?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Deepblue : editting grub.cfg is pointless. Next kernel install will put it back how it is now
[18:04] <Te3-BloodyIron> why use likewiseopen instead of samba to authenticate against an AD domain?
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Te3-bloodyIron: why not?
[18:05] <deepblue> ok,i'll delete it again by then
[18:05] <eb0t> eeos its not impossible...you just need to know how to identify it and make sure all your configurations are correct
[18:05] <Benkinooby> chemicalrage: hm, i can't. i am guessing it is C: since that has "Boot"... better ask in ##windows
[18:05] <chemicalrage> Okay, thanks a lot everyone.
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> deepblue, I would only be concerned that W7 and the old XP are intertwined windows tends to do this, so that you have some Bcd for W7 is in sda1, we can look at it with a script and tell.
[18:05] <Te3-BloodyIron> ActionParsnip: because I can do full user and group auth with just samba? why should i use likewiseopen at all?
[18:05] <deepblue> Benkinooby: it's Mint 15,GRUB II
[18:05] <wizardd> I have two screens, one in laptop, one other. different size, fglrx driver doesn't let me shut down the laptop screen and then enable 3d applications to larger screen
[18:05] <eeos> eb0t: but how? I have tried all that I know ....
[18:05] <wizardd> open source driver works
[18:06] <wizardd> but worse performance
[18:06] <eb0t> can you see the device in your /dev directory
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Te3-bloodyIron : if you have something in place that works why change it
[18:06] <Benkinooby> chemicalrage: sorry i couldn't help you. as soon as you know where your windows boot is you can can come here again, i guess :)
 i did it b4 and it was ok
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> deepblue, Cool as long as your sure is all.
[18:06] <eeos> eb0t: what should it look like?
[18:07] <Benkinooby> deepblue: ok, as i see it, there is a way to tell grub2 to ignore certain partitions - i think that's the easies way
[18:07] <Te3-BloodyIron> ActionParsnip: I don't have something in place, I just don't see why anyone would use Likewise instead of Samba/Kerberos/Winbind
[18:07] <deepblue> wilee-nilee: it happened again after reinstallation of Mint
[18:07] <Te3-BloodyIron> I want to know the reasoning behind it
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Te3 -bloodyIron : could use LDAP instead
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> deepblue, are you familiar with the boot script and what is in a grub, xp, and windows boot?
[18:08] <Te3-BloodyIron> ActionParsnip: that doesn't answer my question at all
[18:08] <Te3-BloodyIron> I'm asking why would someone use LikewiseOpen
[18:08] <eeos> eb0t: I have tried configuring wpa by hand ...
[18:08] <eb0t> eeos look thorough this document and although it is not specific to you it will show you where to find stuff
[18:08] <eb0t> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_Setup
[18:08] <Benkinooby> deepblue: again - make grub2 to ignore that partition when it's makin it's list - that's the easist and safest way
[18:09] <deepblue> wilee-nilee:  u may say so
[18:09] <deepblue> Benkinooby: how 2 do it?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Te3-bloodyIron : each has its advantages
[18:10] <eb0t> lspci -k
[18:10] <eb0t> etc
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> deepblue, Cool all three grub, xp, and W7 have different setups is all, good help here, and if you have a W7 recovery or install disc/usb you can fix it if needed.
[18:10] <Te3-BloodyIron> ActionParsnip: by all means feel free to actually tell me the advantages of LikewiseOpen
[18:10] <Benkinooby> deepblue: deepblue for example here http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/1028-how-to-grub2-hide-windows-recovery-partition/
[18:10] <fission6> does /tmp get erased on some freq basis
[18:10] <Benkinooby> deepblue: of course you have to adapt it to your needs
[18:11] <deepblue> ok,Benk
[18:11] <jhutchins> fission6: Only on reboot.
[18:11] <JoBArTe_Skuld> guys
[18:11] <fission6> interesting
[18:11] <deepblue> Benkinooby: ok,thanx
[18:11] <JoBArTe_Skuld> what the best for improve a fileshare server? lighttpd or nginx?
[18:11] <jhutchins> fission6: /var/tmp/ is for stuff that needs to survive reboot.
[18:11] <eb0t> then check your  iplink command etc ..and keep stepping through until you realise where the problem may lie
[18:12] <Benkinooby> deepblue: i just saw - the link i sent you is based on this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1330700&p=8343454#post8343454
[18:12] <fission6> ok, was looking for s pace to through files that would be flushed on a feq basis
[18:13] <Sidey> hello
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Te3-bloodyIron : www.purplerage.com/likewise/enterprise.php
[18:13] <Te3-BloodyIron> I take it from your silence there is no known advantage to using LikewiseOpen
[18:13] <Te3-BloodyIron> erm im backpedaling on that statement
[18:14] <stants> hello
[18:14] <Pici> Te3-BloodyIron: How about we don't know.
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Te3-bloodyIron : of course there is or nobody would use it. What a ridiculous statement. Think about it
[18:14] <stants> i have a point of sale system that i need to make boot
[18:14] <Te3-BloodyIron> well what you link here is the enterprise version
[18:15] <Te3-BloodyIron> yet all the guides i find are for the open version, as in non enterprise
[18:15] <Te3-BloodyIron> and in that case, i don't yet see a reason to use LikewiseOpen, as in the non-enterprise version, instead of samba
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Te3-bloodyIron : "I'm a developmer of likewise but there is no advantage or point to my work but I'll just keep on making new releases"
[18:15] <Te3-BloodyIron> the features you show me here for enterprise are valid indeed, but this is not quite the same version that so many guides direct you to use
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Te3-bloodyIron : is what you just implied
[18:16] <Te3-BloodyIron> people actually get paid to write non-premium oss software btw
[18:16] <Te3-BloodyIron> i take it you've never heard of i dunno openssh?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Te3-bloodyIron : I use it daily
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Anyway food time.
[18:17] <Benkinooby> mahlzeit!
[18:17] <Te3-BloodyIron> if you dont understand the point i just made, then i suspect you cannot answer my basic question i've now asked more than 3 times
[18:17] <nice-coder> The LTS Enablement stacks are suitable for only x86 architecture or x86-64 too?
[18:17] <Natural> i like turtles
[18:17] <boneslash> I love trains... :D
[18:18] <Te3-BloodyIron> well this has been a productive time, cya folks
[18:19] <Benkinooby> dunno if this is ot: what do you use for backup? so far i use dirvish and i am pretty happy with it - just interested what others use
[18:19] <Natural> copy paste
[18:20] <MonkeyDust> Benkinooby  rsync
[18:20] <eeos> eb0t: I keep getting device failed to enter state 4 in the dmesg
[18:21] <eb0t> is it a plug in usb device
[18:21] <eb0t> or is it proper installed card
[18:21] <eeos> eb0t: proper installe card
[18:22] <param_> hello i want to extract a file in /usc/local directory, but it gives error you dont hve permissions , how to fix it ?
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> param_  use sudo to extract it
[18:23] <param_> i am not extracting through terminal
[18:24] <param_> using archive manager
[18:24] <eb0t> im not sure but you should maybe look here  ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1552847
[18:24] <jhutchins> param_: Don't.
[18:25] <param_> have to extract through terminal only ?
[18:26] <jhutchins> param_: You have more options and control that way.
[18:27] <guest9999> hi, I have broadcom wifi and I can't get it to connect to my wireless modem.
[18:27] <eb0t> i just typed 'device failed to enter state 4' in google and some listings came up
[18:27] <eb0t> that one i gave you doesnt look like the best one
[18:27] <eb0t> there is another with a fix.
[18:27] <nutzz> hey guys, i'm learning about X server, the author of book that i'm reading says something a bout the /etc/x11/ directory, but i can't seem to find this directory on my system. maybe the data that should be in that directory are stored in another place?
[18:27] <eb0t> but i cant put the address in because it on another computer
[18:28] <Sietsem> Its in /etc/X11
[18:28] <Sietsem> With a capital X
[18:28] <Sietsem> :P
[18:29] <nutzz> :) this is embarrassing
[18:29] <Sietsem> Haha :D
[18:29] <eeos> eb0t: just tried as well, but it does not fix it ....
[18:30] <yugandhar> Hi Team
[18:30] <yugandhar> I couldn't able to login to the remote machine
[18:31] <Benkinooby> !broadcom
[18:31] <yugandhar> can anyone help on this ?
[18:32] <Benkinooby> guest9999: ^ look tis
[18:33] <jhutchins> param_: What kind of archive is it?
[18:33] <param_> its a hadoop archive
[18:33] <yugandhar> Please check the error on this link : http://pastebin.com/1QvrjnTz
[18:33] <param_> i downloaded hadoop
[18:33] <jhutchins> param_: zip?  tar?  tgz?
[18:33] <param_> and want to extract in /usr/local directory
[18:34] <param_> tar
[18:34] <param_> tar.gz
[18:34] <nutzz> hey guys, in /etc/X11 shouldn't be a xorg.conf file?
[18:34] <jhutchins> param_: tar -xzvf <path/to/file>, run in /usr/local
[18:34] <Benkinooby> nutzz: do you really want to mess around with x11 directly?
[18:34] <jhutchins> param_: Probably with sudo.
[18:34] <yugandhar> http://pastebin.com/1QvrjnTz
[18:34] <daftykins> nutzz: these days configuration is automatic so there won't often be one
[18:35] <DJones> !xorgconf | nutzz
[18:35] <nutella> anyone here use ubuntu with an alienware machine?
[18:35] <xangua> !anyone | nutella
[18:35] <param_> file is i downloads folder
[18:35] <Benkinooby> fu* ! i forgot to buy nutella
[18:35] <xangua> !language | Benkinooby
[18:36] <Benkinooby> sorry
[18:36] <nutella> better yet, I'm having issues with bumblebee and nvidia driverss
[18:37] <asdfghjkl> Do I have to have a hard drive to boot an Ubuntu Live CD??? Everytime I tried to boot it said I needed a medium.
[18:37] <Benkinooby> MonkeyDust: thx for your reply ('bout backup) - maybe you want to look into dirvish. basically it's some smart rysnc with cron
[18:37] <daftykins> asdfghjkl: no you don't need any other drives. are you sure that's what the error means?
[18:37] <Benkinooby> asdfghjkl: no. did you check your BIOS settings?
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> asdfghjkl, nope, when do you see this, are you sure you are booting the disc?
[18:38] <asdfghjkl> Well, when I went to another computer which had a HDD it worked.
[18:38] <Benkinooby> asdfghjkl: the problem is, that you computer is not trying to start from CD - you need to set that in BIOS or, if available, during boot
[18:38] <Benkinooby> asdfghjkl: the magic word is boot order
[18:39] <asdfghjkl> I checked the boot sequence, none of it worked even after changing it around...
[18:39] <param_> can you tell how to write the path,   file name is hadoop-1.2.1.tar.gz and its in Downloads folder
[18:40] <param_> sudo tar -xzf /Downloads/hadoop-1.2.1.tar.gz          dis gives me error
[18:40] <esuave> does anyone know where i can get the list of repos to use still for 8.04?
[18:40] <asdfghjkl> Does medium mean a HDD or an OS? Kind of like a foundation?
[18:40] <Benkinooby> asdfghjkl: if you are 100% sure your boot order is correct, and the CD works on other computers, i'd test the CD-drive
[18:41] <jhutchins> param_: if you do pwd you will see what directory you are currently in.  It's probably something like /home/param_/.  The tilde (~) substitutes for your $HOME, so ~/Downloads/<file> or /home/param_/Downloads/<file>.
[18:41] <esuave> trying to install a few packages but i see ubuntu got rid of its 8.04 repos
[18:41] <param_> thanks
[18:41] <jhutchins> param_: Some people get touchy about /msg
[18:41] <param_> problem sovlved
[18:41] <param_> solved
[18:41] <jhutchins> param_: I don't, but I don't usually see them until long after you're gone.
[18:41] <eb0t> eeos try doing...........iwconfig wlan0 power off
[18:42] <param_> Cheers ,
[18:42] <asdfghjkl> I got all the way to the point where it asked would I like to boot the 64bit or 32bit version of Raring Ringtail... Then it said there wasn't a medium.
[18:42] <eb0t> that disables power saving and then the card has continuous supply
[18:42] <eb0t> and the bug may stop showing up
[18:42] <eeos> eb0t: yes, already tried, did not work
[18:42] <internetpanda> whats that big shared library for building stuff under ubuntu called?
[18:42] <internetpanda> apt-get install what?
[18:42] <jhutchins> param_: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxcommand.org/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/05/20/terminal1.html http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/~kevin/unix-tutorial/toc.html
[18:43] <polter> is there an easy command to see what's automatically started at boot?
[18:43] <param_> Thanks :)
[18:44] <esuave> so if i cannot use my sources.list anymore because it is out of date.. where can i get a new list of sources to apt get stuff?
[18:44] <asdfghjkl> What is a medium? All I know is I need it to boot my Live CD. Is it a hard drive or OS? Because my comp doesn't have one- and my Live CD actually works on ones that do.
[18:44] <yugandhar> Hi Techs,  I am worrying alot about it
[18:44] <yugandhar> please please help me on this
[18:45] <eb0t> try that same command but put in ra0 rather than wlan0
[18:46] <asdfghjkl> What does the word MEDIUM mean?
[18:46] <asdfghjkl> srry about all caps on that
[18:46] <yeats> polter: you can do 'ls /etc/rc2.d/' (that assumes a runlevel of 2 which is the default for ubuntu desktop)
[18:46] <polter> asdfghjkl: it's a CD, or a USB drive or a network boot drive
[18:47] <polter> asdfghjkl: it's not just one thing
[18:47] <asdfghjkl> Can I boot an Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Live CD without a HDD in my computer?
[18:47] <polter> yeats: awesome, thanks
[18:47] <polter> asdfghjkl: yes, you should be able to do that just fine
[18:48] <polter> yeats: do you know if it's safe to remove stuff from there? I have an nginx service listed there even though I uninstalled nginx for example
[18:49] <asdfghjkl> To boot an ubuntu Live CD, what should I select to boot first in BIOS boot sequence???
[18:49] <polter> asdfghjkl: DVD/CDROM
[18:49] <asdfghjkl> Thanks polter
[18:51] <omid8bimo> hey im getting this err when i use sudo, "sudo: unable to resolve host dhcppc1" but my hostname is something else in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts; any idea?
[18:51] <fdsf> http://imgur.com/a/DBix4    imgur ubuntu look
[18:51] <polter> do not click that link
[18:57] <imanc> hey ... .i accidently nuked /var/cache/*  any ideas if/what is required for system to function?
[18:58] <Impossible> iam on ubuntu and want to make a bootable ubuntu usb for another pc. what program allows me to o this
[19:00] <polter> Impossible: unetbootin
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> Impossible, startup disk creator is onboard
[19:01] <Rory> 4/join #r.trees
[19:01] <Impossible> polter wilee-nilee unetbook from soft center correct
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> Impossible, that is unetbootin, quite usable, already installed though is the one I mentioned.
[19:06] <kristal> Is there any alternative to flash yet that somewhat works?
[19:06] <tgm4883> kristal, HTML5
[19:06] <digitalknight> hu all
[19:07] <digitalknight> i needed a bit of help please
[19:07] <kristal> tgm4883: Sadly we developers are idiots so that adoption is going really slow.
[19:07] <tgm4883> kristal, then I'm not sure what you are asking?
[19:08] <digitalknight> i am looking to input a c++ code file in another C++ program
[19:08] <Impossible> polter wilee-nille should i format the usb in a certain format or will unet do it for me
[19:08] <digitalknight> qnd then compile it
[19:08] <kristal> tgm4883: gnash and the others
[19:08] <digitalknight> can anyone help me wih it please?
[19:08] <tgm4883> kristal, that isn't an alternative to flash
[19:09] <kristal> tgm4883: Is it to adobe's flash player which has in the wild exploits
[19:09] <tgm4883> kristal, I.... Have you tried openjdk?
[19:09] <Impossible> what format should a usb be for it to be made ubuntu bootable
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> Impossible, fat32
[19:10] <kristal> tgm4883: There's a java based flash player?
[19:10] <tgm4883> kristal, yea, I'm apparently on crack right now. Trying to do too many things at once. Don't mind me :/
[19:11] <kristal> Anyone know if exfat works? I know fat32 and ntfs does...
[19:11] <Rory> !gnash | kristal and yes exfat works
[19:12] <Rory> Oh hold on kristal I may be mistaken about exfat, let me check for you
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> kristal, I have always used adobe and never been compromised in 7 years use, you can get a bit ocd in this area. ;)
[19:12] <digitalknight> anybody,please?
[19:12] <digitalknight> i am trying to call bfork and replace it with gcc
[19:12] <Rory> !info exfat-fuse | kristal
[19:12] <digitalknight> but cant really check the error codes
[19:13] <kristal> Rory:  Whooo, it works now huh, ages ago it was still alpha. Good... I use exfat on my windows SSD.
[19:14] <deegen> Is there currently a way to send SMS messages from an iPhone cabled to a Ubuntu machine?
[19:15] <kristal> deegen: Hmm, I know you can with andriod and firefoxos, I think there's an app for iphone which relays sms to email...
[19:18] <Eduard_Munteanu> Say I want to install and configure Ubuntu once, then replicate it on different machines. Is there some way to "refresh" a system after I install the clone, like say regenerate ssh keys and filesystem UUIDs.
[19:19] <Eduard_Munteanu> Erm, that was a question. :)
[19:19] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: make a little bash script?
[19:20] <Eduard_Munteanu> Benkinooby: that's what I'm trying to avoid, I'm looking for a generic and already-done thing.
[19:20] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: also as far as i know you can set up a server to serve out the correct stuff to each machines
[19:21] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: so it will boot ofer lan (PXE) and automatically draw the correct image / setting
[19:21] <Rory> kristal: I know, right? I looked at Gnash in something like 2006 and it *sucked* - glad to see it actually can be used now in the real world!
[19:21] <Benkinooby> !gnash
[19:21] <TJ-> With Unity on 13.04 how can it be stopped from auto-re-opening an LVM VG that is manually closed?
[19:21] <Eduard_Munteanu> Benkinooby: MAAS or stuff like cobbler? Yeah, but I don't have a master server available right now.
[19:21] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: how many computers are you speaking of?
[19:22] <Eduard_Munteanu> Benkinooby: around 25
[19:22] <internetpanda> what library am I missing? "/usr/bin/ld cannot find -lboost_thread"
[19:23] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: is it for a school?
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> TJ-, Is it in fstab?
[19:24] <Eduard_Munteanu> Benkinooby: no, they're all in different locations... they're playing ads on TVs in stores
[19:24] <badass> can anyone assist me with setting up postfix via webmin?
[19:24] <badass> I'm having trouble authenticating with smtp remotely
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> TJ-, waht exactly is "LVM VG"
[19:25] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: make one of them your cobbler server. OR, use a live system on them anyway
[19:26] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: No, I'm currently building a whole-disk encryption USB flash device, and each time I do "vgchange -an $VG" something in Unity/Nautilus immediately auto-reopens the VG and enumerates the LVs!
[19:26] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: I tried disabling the dconf automount options for media but that isn't it
[19:26] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: get a live system, remaster it, and use it. it will have many advantages too
[19:26] <Eduard_Munteanu> Benkinooby: I can't really do that, there's no other (usable) computer to act as a server locally.
[19:26] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: e.g. you can make it read only after the remaster, so security will be better
[19:27] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: LVM VG is Logical Volume Management, Volume Group. The container for LVs (Logical Volumes)
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> TJ-, Thats what I thought, I'm not familiar is all.
[19:27] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: I've watched the logs, nothing showing up to give a clue as to which process is doing it although I suspect gvfs
[19:27] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: how do you feel about remastered life system
[19:28] <Eduard_Munteanu> Benkinooby: you mean preconfiguring a server then cloning it? Yeah, that's what I've done so far.
[19:28] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: other than [1] scripts, [2] cobbler and alike [3] remastered life system i am out of ideas
[19:28] <Eduard_Munteanu> Benkinooby: oh, you mean live as in live cd?
[19:28] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: cloning a server?
[19:28] <TJ-> Eduard_Munteanu: Are you trying to set up a TFTP server for PXE boots? You could use a VM with dnsmasq and tftp-hpa / tftpd
[19:28] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: yes
[19:29] <Eduard_Munteanu> TJ-: no, not really
[19:29] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: yes, live as in live CD
[19:29] <Eduard_Munteanu> Benkinooby: that seems difficult to customize for this purpose, lemme think
[19:30] <designbybeck___> My Notification area always posts shows old content...like days later I see it pop up in the HUD. Not sure why it does that? Can I just turn it off?
[19:30] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: well, you can do it on an usb-stick. then custiomize as you want it. and then reporduce that usb stick 25 times and mount it at the target machines as read only
[19:31] <Eduard_Munteanu> Benkinooby: I can make it a partition, I need persistent settings and data.
[19:31] <Eduard_Munteanu> Partition on an internal HDD.
[19:31] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: sure. you can make 2 partiton on it or on internal hdd
[19:32] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: you can also install that live system as a live system(!) on the hdds - no need for usb-sticks
[19:32] <Eduard_Munteanu> Yeah, that's what I meant.
[19:33] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: although using a live system might be some kind of over-kill
[19:33] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: maybe you also askin #debian for ideas?
[19:33] <Lorra> Hi everybody, tonight I was happily using fluxbox when pixels started falling like snowflakes on my screen and I had to restart my computer in order for this to stop. I use lightdm as  a login manager, but it wouldn't stop there either. Does anybody have a clue of what can this be due to?
[19:33] <lolfunnygai> Hai. There's an envelope beside my clock on the top of the screen. It annoys me, since I don't use it. How can I get rid of it?
[19:34] <Benkinooby> Lorra: can you show us a screenshot?
[19:34] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: are those computers also connected via network?
[19:35] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hm, I don't remember asking the same question in #debian, I did ask about automated installs.
[19:35] <Eduard_Munteanu> Benkinooby: yes, not the same LAN segment though.
[19:35] <Lorra> Benkinooby, I've restarted my computer, now it's gone
[19:35] <Eduard_Munteanu> They're in stores all over the country.
[19:35] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: oh, i was suggest that you ask there
[19:35] <sas12> hello
[19:36] <sas12> guys i cant buy something from humblebundles
[19:36] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: can you access them via ssh, or put them in a vpn or so? how ill you manage them?
[19:36] <sas12> i need help. can gift natural selection 2
[19:36] <Lorra> Benkinooby, it never happened to me so far though, have been using various linuxes for almost 8 years now
[19:36] <Benkinooby> Lorra: maybe it was a screensaver?
[19:36] <Benkinooby> Lorra: iirc there is a "pixels falling down" screensaver
[19:36] <Eduard_Munteanu> Benkinooby: yeah, I do have SSH access, there's a single server giving them files as well.
[19:37] <Eduard_Munteanu> *and there's a
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> Lorra, There are effects in compiz which will do this, but fluxbox would not be using compiz, unless you have set it up.
[19:37] <Lorra> Benkinooby, no, it wasn't, it would stop when I move my mouse otherwise, asking for password.
[19:37] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: and you can't use that server for network setup?
[19:37] <Eduard_Munteanu> Benkinooby: it's not on the same LAN physically, so PXE wouldn't work.
[19:38] <Lorra> wilee-nilee, I don't use compiz...
[19:38] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: oh yes, sorry forgot
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> Lorra, I figured that with fluxbox, just commenting.
[19:38] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: i think in that case a live system probably is a good guess - but maybe there are more professional solutions
[19:39] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: just make a live system on a usbstick. modify it as you need it. and the clone the usbstick - or the hdds, as you like
[19:40] <Eduard_Munteanu> Benkinooby: well actually there are two separate problems: (1) installing the system, and (2) (re)configuring it.
[19:40] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: the advantage of live systems is (when done correctly), that they also cut down logging and stuff that might cause truoble (not enough space and such)
[19:40] <miss_lolfunny> how does apt-get remove differ from apt-get purge?
[19:40] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: well, these computers. are the allready in their locations?
[19:40] <zykotick9> miss_lolfunny: purge removes teh config files in /etc
[19:40] <TJ-> miss_lolfunny: purge will remove config files that remove leaves alone
[19:41] <anonymous_> miss_lolfunny  :    man apt-get    ;D
[19:41] <Eduard_Munteanu> Benkinooby: yes, and I initially cloned an install onto them. But we're going to ship some more and reinstall the existing ones at some point.
[19:42] <miss_lolfunny> I just uninstalled indicator-messages.. what did I just uninstall?
[19:42] <Eduard_Munteanu> Benkinooby: still, if I preconfigure one in a VM, I have to (1) clone it, which is easy, and (2) refresh SSH keys, set up networking etc.
[19:42] <miss_lolfunny> I did that to get rid of the envelope beside the clock panel
[19:43] <Benkinooby> Eduard_Munteanu: i think a script will be the easiest way
[19:43] <trism> miss_lolfunny: that's what it is, although you'll likely have to log out/back in to see it removed
[19:43] <TJ-> Eduard_Munteanu: You're trying to install multiple identical systems, is that it? (I missed your original question)
[19:43] <Eduard_Munteanu> TJ-: yes
[19:43] <Ben64> miss_lolfunny: you shouldn't remove things that you don't know what they are/do, you can break your system
[19:43] <miss_lolfunny> k thanks trism lol
[19:43] <miss_lolfunny> Ben64: that's how you learn :)
[19:43] <TJ-> Eduard_Munteanu: Have you looked at creating a custom seed? see  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement
[19:44] <TJ-> Eduard_Munteanu: Probably more relevant to your specific needs https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-using.html
[19:44] <Eduard_Munteanu> TJ-: hm, does that handle configuration as well? At least until the point where it can hand the keys to a config management system.
[19:46] <TJ-> Eduard_Munteanu: Yes, you can run custom commands, see e.g. https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-advanced.html
[19:46] <eZtaR> Hey guys
[19:49] <Benkinooby> bye Eduard_Munteanu good luck!"
[19:49] <eZtaR> I have an external drive (~2 TB) filled with goodies, which i want to convert to ext4 from ntfs. Problem is that I can't just format it without losing all my data, and I don't have a spare linux machine laying around for the copy. Any pointers?
[19:51] <miss_lolfunny> do you use flash? Btw, shouldn't youtube support html5 videos?
[19:51] <FireBeard> hello
[19:51] <miss_lolfunny> HELLO, LOL HI FireBeard!1
[19:51] <polter> eZtaR: I would just keep it NTFS. Is there a particular reason for formatting it ext4?
[19:51] <compdoc> eZtaR, might be worth getting a 2nd drive
[19:52] <Eduard_Munteanu> eZtaR: what goodies? If they're movies or porn you can download them again later. :)
[19:52] <eZtaR> polter -> Yeah, ntfs-3g uses about 50% cpu on my rpi
[19:52] <FireBeard> hey, I have 2 12.04 installs, and they both refuse to display a 24 hour clock
[19:52] <polter> eZtaR: fair enough ;)
[19:52] <Eduard_Munteanu> If it's compressible then you might be able to transfer it to a smaller drive.
[19:52] <TJ-> eZtaR: shrink the NTFS partition to remove all free space, then create a new partition and make an LVM physical volume. Add that PV to a Volume Group, then create a Logical Volume and format it ext4. Copy all (or some) of the NTFS into the ext4 the, if necessary, again shrink the NTFS, create a new partition to hold the the newly released space, make that partition a PV, add that PV to the VG, and then extend the LV to use the new PV... etc
[19:52] <eZtaR> TJ- -> Thanks man, hadn't thought about that :)
[19:53] <TJ-> eZtaR: s/Copy/Move/ of course... so you release space on the NTFS as you move the files to the ext4
[19:53] <Eduard_Munteanu> Not sure if that's been automated, it would suck to do manually if you have little free space.
[19:54] <TJ-> eZtaR: If you've got a spare USB flash device you could use it to shuttle more data out of the NTFS in one pass
[19:54] <eZtaR> Eduard_Munteanu: From my recent google history it hasn't been automated yet, but i see a lot of potential users for such an app ;)
[19:55] <FireBeard> janeks991: wow, lots of you !
[19:55] <Eduard_Munteanu> eZtaR: the easiest way is to get a backup drive, it's convenient for multiple purposes.
[19:55] <javatexan> hey all
[19:55] <eZtaR> TJ-: Yeah, I might just have to install ubuntu on my desktop pc and try to move some data around
[19:55] <eZtaR> Thanks guys, my mind's been fried over this, might be time for bed xD
[19:56] <MsSayian> where does the configuration settings for the network manager get stored. I.e if i configure a network through the gui, where do these settings get stored.
[19:56] <TJ-> eZtaR: Or use a live ISO image
[19:56] <eZtaR> TJ-: True :)
[19:56] <javatexan> having trouble with mac laptop overheating with fans pegged at 6200rpm (seems to be ceiling).  Is there a way to force processor not to use turbo mode?  I assume that would be hottest thing other than say the video card...right?
[19:57] <Eduard_Munteanu> javatexan: if it's a BIOS option
[19:57] <TJ-> MsSayian: /etc/NetworkManager/ for system settings
[19:58] <Eduard_Munteanu> javatexan: I'm not sure if cpufreq can control that
[19:58] <Eduard_Munteanu> It might work to scale down the frequency.
[19:58] <MsSayian> Thanks TJ
[19:58] <eZtaR> Well I'm off, thanks again guys :)
[20:00] <zykotick9> TJ-: i'd "think" most, important data for N-M is actually stored in gconf database, and not in any files on the system...
[20:01] <MsSayian> How would i bring the eth0 if i used the gui to enable it. I am trying to enable promiscious mode but ifdown doesnt work.
[20:02] <TJ-> zykotick9: No, system connections are in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[20:02] <zykotick9> TJ-: humm, good to know then.  thanks.
[20:06] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: Finally figured it out... "/usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor" - killed that process, everything now good
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> TJ-, Cool, good job.
[20:14] <deepblue> http://dpaste.com/1393237/ , i wanna delete the line :Windows NT/2000/XP (loader) on /dev/sda1
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> deepblue, If it is just extra you can delete it from the partition itself, by just mounting it in ubuntu.
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> deepblue, I would not bother with blocking it in grub.
[20:18] <LordAioria> one question .. i was following this guide http://www.serverubuntu.it/SFTP-chroot to chroot SFTP users with OpenSSH ... and now i have one user created jailed that works perfect in SFTP (it's jailed) But now i want that the same user allows ssh jailed too..... at creation i have used this : usermod -s /bin/bash myuser instead of /bin/false but when i have tried to enter ssh with this user .... i see this message: This service allows sftp connections only
[20:19] <chiefk> it's 2013 and people still use linux? LOL
[20:19] <chiefk> dead OS general i guess
[20:21] <deepblue> wilee-nilee :it's alredy mounted
[20:22] <delinquentme> get a file + object count within a dir?
[20:24] <charlie> hello
[20:24] <charlie> ?
[20:27] <kyze> hey, how can i get my ubuntu server to execute a command at startup ?
[20:28] <sas12> kyze, strange. u have a ready to go server or ideas of it and say that question. world is strange
[20:29] <nearmiss> why is it I can only see my own owned processes when doing ps aux? (its screwing with some monitoring I'm trying to setup)
[20:29] <nmpro> is there a limit on how big an iso that can be burned to usb stick using usb-creator-gtk ?
[20:30] <sas12> nmpro, try to create multiboot usb manually
[20:30] <sas12> nmpro, it gives u way to add unlimited cd images and boot any
[20:31] <nmpro> sas12? what do you mean?
[20:31] <nearmiss> I don't get this behaviour on non-ubuntu systems
[20:31] <sas12> nearmiss, try htop
[20:31] <nmpro> I am trying to add a win7 iso image to my usb stick drive, so I can install and run in parallel to ubuntu
[20:33] <sas12> nmpro, u can. make on your usb stick empty partition with 2mb free in start of partition. install grub2.
[20:33] <anonymous_> Hi guys i want to thank all of u for helping me out almost every time i had a question :)  the ubuntu community is damn great :)
[20:33] <sas12> anonymous_, i think so
[20:34] <nearmiss> sas12: why is the behaviour different on ubuntu though? I have stuff depending on being able to ps aux and grep for a process
[20:34] <sas12> nearmiss, i dont know. im on debian testing flavor
[20:34] <delinquentme> Are there screaming issues in ubuntu with naming folders with spaces in them?
[20:34] <nearmiss> sas12: yeah, thats what I use elsewhere....should have here too I guess!
[20:34] <delinquentme> clearly its ideal to NOT have this ... but how much of an issue is it?
[20:35] <kristal> Is linux-image-lowlatency better than generic linux?
[20:35] <sas12> delinquentme, perhabs no. anytime you use paths space mark as a \
[20:35] <sas12> delinquentme, no /
[20:35] <bekks> kristal: If you have to ask that - no.
[20:35] <delinquentme> sas12,  it looks like red\ box
[20:35] <sas12> kristal, compare by yourself. good experience
[20:36] <kristal> I'm jsut wondering if it'll help with input lag and audio latency for editing.
[20:36] <sas12> delinquentme, looks like ~$ cd PlayOnLinux\'s\ virtual\ drives
[20:36] <kristal> I think it's lower performance but more responsive
[20:36] <delinquentme> yeah :D
[20:36] <bekks> kristal: It doesnt lower performance.
[20:37] <kristal> bekks: Whooo Gonna try it.
[20:38] <sas12> still ask: does anyone can help me buy humblebundle? i gift natural selection 2 in Steam
[20:39] <dNSTAR> Hello guys. I'm having some trouble with my mouse. I have updated all software updates, but it still work. When I plug my Razer Taipan into the computer I can't left nor right click, if I unplug it and stick it into another usb It works for like 10 seconds. Any solutions?
[20:41] <nearmiss> hmm seems my problem may be unique to grsec kernels, which are used by my providor.  fun fun.
[20:41] <CupSQue> Hi....i'm unable to locate how to allow cupds restart to any user....can anybody help me, plz?
[20:41] <Eren97> hi
[20:41] <Eren97> can i ask a question about virtual amchines in combination with linux?
[20:42] <sas12> ok. contact me with spamer.metropoliten dog yandex dot ru about helping to buy humblebundle. i go sleep
[20:42] <sas12> bye
[20:42] <Eren97> can anybody help me?
[20:43]  * Guest83774 hey
[20:43] <teknix_> Hi
[20:43] <Pici> !ask
[20:44] <teknix_> Could anyone tell me how I can expand an windows ISO to a USB in linux or how to run windows in a virtual maching through linux?
[20:44] <Eren97> ah sry
[20:44] <Eren97> My hardware should be capable of running 64 bit(had 64 bit win7 be4)
[20:45] <teknix_> I tried like unetbootin and another prog, but they failed
[20:45] <Eren97> now I wanna run ubuntu 64 bit in a VM but it tells me i can't
[20:45] <kyze> im obviously too dumb to autostart a single bash command :/
[20:46] <teknix_> Yumi is awesome but it only works in windows I think.
[20:46] <teknix_> Is anyone there?
[20:46] <Eren97> yea
[20:47] <_name> i cant boot ubuntu from my hdd, can anyone help me?
[20:49] <odium> I would like to install a package from a repo with only raring i386 binaries, while my system is saucy amd64, is this possible?
[20:50] <CupSQue> how can i allow any user to /etc/init.d/cupsd restart =???
[20:50] <teknix_> Yep the USB creators don't work at all
[20:51] <teknix_> Atleast not for windows ISO
[20:51] <teknix_> Does anyone know of one that will expand a windows ISO through linux to make a bootable USB?
[20:52] <mantys89> Try UnetBootin
[20:52] <teknix_> I just tried it, it just gave me a default option
[20:52] <ciao> cioa
[20:52] <teknix_> and didn't go anywhere
[20:53] <ciao> !list
[20:53] <_name> i cant boot ubuntu from my hdd, can anyone help me?
[20:54] <teknix_> It looks like it put everything of the USB, but it doesn't boot into windows install
[20:55] <teknix_> nah, it is only 1.3mb on it, rofl, win7 is 3kmb
[20:56] <Eren97> lol
[20:56] <teknix_> The .ISO is 3.3 GB
[20:56] <teknix_> 3kmb i meant 3000 mb
[20:56] <teknix_> MB
[20:56] <teknix_> sry
[20:57] <BluesKaj> _name, do you get a grub menu ?
[20:58] <teknix_> What about Xen? What do you guys think about that?
[20:58] <_name> Blueskaj: yes, i think it might be because i ugraded my graphics driver but not sure since i just installed it
[20:58] <_name> Blueskaj: juxt installed ubuntu that is
[20:59] <teknix_> Aha, vbox is for linux ^.^
[20:59] <bekks> teknix_: It is available for linux, windows, mac OSX, freebsd, solaris.
[20:59] <BluesKaj> _name, which graphics card and driver ?
[21:00] <teknix_> nice, so I can put my win 7 iso in a vbox and use yuni right?
[21:00] <teknix_> Yumi*
[21:01] <bekks> teknix_: You dont need yumi. All you need is the ISO.
[21:01] <_name> Blueskaj: card is nvidia quadro fx 770m, i think i ugraded to nvidia-319 driver or something
[21:01] <teknix_> I mean to make a multi-boot
[21:01] <teknix_> stick
[21:01] <bekks> teknix_: You dont need an usb stick, all you need is the .ISO when using vbox.
[21:02] <teknix_> lol, I am trying to make a USB stick, that's my main mission
[21:02] <teknix_> to expand a windows ISO on USB through linux
[21:02] <BluesKaj> _name, ok describe what happens when you "can't boot ",. What appears on your screen , if anything ?
[21:03] <Eren97> did u setup the USB to be bootable of
[21:03] <Eren97> *get booted of
[21:04] <_name> Blueskaj: after grub i only get a black screen with like a flickering white _ at the top left
[21:05] <TJ-> _name: When you say 'grub' - do you actually see the GRUB menu? If not, have you helpd down Shift key whilst the system boots in order to get the grub menu, and then tried booting the recovery option?
[21:06] <_name> TJ-: yes i see the actual grub menu
[21:06] <_name> TJ-: tried the recovery but it didnt work
[21:06] <BluesKaj> _name, ok at grub , choose the recovery kernel , and once the dialog comes up choose "repair broken packages" or something similar
[21:06] <TJ-> _name: That's good. When you tried recovery did you see the kernel messages scrolling up the screen before it failed?
[21:06] <_name> Blueskaj: hmm didnt try that yet
[21:07] <ice9> when Ubuntu will use Wayland instead of X?
[21:07] <anvo> Testdrive downloads the latest beta for Saucy with PAE kernel, which is not supported by my CPU... How do I proceed to testing?
[21:07] <_name> TJ- yea saw some stuff, looked normal to me
[21:07] <TJ-> ice9: Ubuntu has its own display server, Mir, which is the default from 13.10 unless proprietary graphics drivers are selected, when it uses X
[21:08] <BluesKaj> ice9, it won't , but Kubuntu is looking to use Wayland
[21:08] <TJ-> _name: OK, then it should reach the recovery menu with options such as "root shell" - is that what you saw?
[21:08] <ice9> TJ-, BluesKaj so Kubuntu will be different from Ubuntu? each will use different display server?
[21:08] <_name> TJ-: yep
[21:08] <BluesKaj> ice9, yes
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> in my experience, ubuntu with kde is already more responsive than ubuntu with gnome
[21:09] <TJ-> ice9: http://blogs.kde.org/2013/06/26/kubuntu-wont-be-switching-mir-or-xmir
[21:09] <BluesKaj> ok ,too many cooks , ..later
[21:10] <ice9> how can I know if Mir can work on my graphics card or not?
[21:11] <teknix_> How can I uninstall?
[21:11] <TJ-> _name: OK, if you can get the root shell you can check the system logs in /var/log/  - I'd be looking at kern.log, syslog, and if there is one, Xorg.0.log for clues. Look at the entries matching the time of the *failed* boot since they will also contain the current session too, of course
[21:12] <TJ-> ice9: Try it
[21:12] <teknix_> I installed this, "Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ("Precise Pangolin")  i386 |  AMD64" from here:  https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads , but can't get it to run
[21:13] <hugok> Hey I just setup software raid in the ubuntu 12.04 alternate, do I need to format the /dev/md0 (raid drive) as ext4 and/or creat a filesystem?
[21:13] <bekks> hugok: Yes, both. First create a filesystem, then format it.
[21:13] <_name> TJ-: should i get on my liveusb and put those on pastebin?
[21:14] <bekks> hugok: Yes, both. First create a partition for a filesystem, then format it.
[21:14] <hugok> bekks, is there a terminal command for that?
[21:14] <hugok> the make fileystem?
[21:14] <bekks> hugok: mkfs
[21:14] <hugok> bekks, thanks
[21:15] <TJ-> _name: It'd be better to be selective by looking for warnings and errors and things that just don't seem right, compared to earlier logs, and selectively investigate any that you find.
[21:16] <hugok> bekks, is 'make new partition table' under gparted the same thing?
[21:16] <bekks> hugok: No. That creates a new partition table, not a filesystem.
[21:16] <hugok> bekks, ok
[21:17] <Eren97> guys
[21:17] <hugok> bekks, how do I know how many blocks in my drive?
[21:17] <bekks> hugok: Its displayed who big drive is, in gparted.
[21:17] <Eren97> what do i get from encrypting the ubuntu install
[21:17] <_name> TJ-: looks like it might be in Xorg.0.log
[21:17] <ice9> Why Xmir is better than X?
[21:17] <hugok> bekks, 'total secors'?
[21:17] <jhutchins> hugok: fdisk -l also.
[21:18] <bekks> hugok: The drive size is even displayed in MB, and you can enter MB when creating new filesystems in gparted,
[21:18] <xanux_> any programmers could explain <windows.h> for linux ?
[21:19] <Eren97> ah, k-line, g-line all same..?
[21:19] <Eren97> failchat
[21:19] <Eren97> what do i get from encrypting the ubuntu install
[21:19] <bekks> Eren97: A good feeling. Chocolate may cause the same.
[21:19] <Eren97> so no sense at all?
[21:19] <AVA0528> :)
[21:20] <bekks> Eren97: Depends on wether you want encryption or not.
[21:20] <Eren97> but what do i get from encrypting it
[21:20] <Eren97> I ain't goin to do suspicious things or something so who theh ell is going to try to read my ubuntu install
[21:20] <compdoc> Eren97, encription caused me problems when trying to connect remotely with VNC
[21:21] <Eren97> oh ok
[21:21] <Eren97> no problemo nonono problemo
[21:21] <ice9> I'm unable to install Xmir on Ubuntu 13.04:  E: Unable to locate package mir-demos
[21:21] <ice9> E: Unable to locate package unity-system-compositor
[21:22] <tylertwo> Is it possible to assign custom hotkeys from terminal? I know how to do this from Gnome-Control-Center.
[21:22] <Eren97> how can i display ue(german letter) in linux?
[21:23] <teknix_> Which sort of harddrive should I create for the best emulation experience of win7 in my vbox?
[21:23] <hugok> hey bekks, it finished making filesystem. Do I make partition table with gparted now?
[21:23] <bekks> teknix_: vbox does not emulate, it virtualizes. Just use the defaults or refer to the vbox manual for a detailed explanation of almost every option choosable.
[21:23] <lolfunnygai> hi, is there any particular reason why some packages in ubuntus respitory is ceveral years old (when there are new versions out there since a long time ago)?
[21:24] <Eren97> how can i display ue(german letter) in linux?
[21:24] <lolfunnygai> Eren97: you'll have to set up your charset. Google it :)
[21:24] <m6121> Greetings.  I have just connected my external terabyte drive and am wondering what is the best or favorite ripping program you all use for Ubuntu?  There are lots, and lots of opinions.  Just curious.
[21:25] <m6121> Gonna use FLAC I think, btw.
[21:25] <malkauns> how do i get facebook to work using empathy on 13.04?
[21:25] <tylertwo> lolfunnygai: maybe nobody's gotten around to updating it?
[21:25] <teknix_> bekks ty
[21:25] <Eren97> lolfunnygai still in the setup xD
[21:26] <k1l> lolfunnygai: maybe just no one  cared, no one did the work, there are depencies not met, ... there could be a lot of reasons. most time ubuntu doesnt get new versions (besides security and bug fixes) after release
[21:26] <lolfunnygai> Eren97: that's where you set it up, in the setup. There will be an option for your keyboard language etc
[21:26] <lolfunnygai> k1l: so the way to go, is to download the updates yourself?
[21:26] <lolfunnygai> I thought apt-get is the way you SHOULd install them :P
[21:27] <k1l> lolfunnygai: the question is: do you neeed the update?
[21:27] <Eren97> lolfunnygai yea after the location selection xD
[21:27] <k1l> lolfunnygai: and dont tell me: "its newer"
[21:28] <tylertwo> lolfunnygai: apt-get makes things easy for you. it's fine to dowlnoad things without it though (assuming you take safety precautions)
[21:28] <m6121> Greetings.  I have just connected my external terabyte drive and am wondering what is the best or favorite ripping program you all use for Ubuntu?  There are lots, and lots of opinions.  Just curious.
[21:28] <lolfunnygai> k1l: well, in this case, it's from 2008, and there's a 2013 release for that package. I'm pretty sure it's better in many aspects :P
[21:28] <spikebike> Anyone have an idea for debugging a server that boots and gets on the net, but the console stays locked in the "Ubuntu 13.04" splash screen with the ". . . ." animation.
[21:28] <mantys891> For German keyboard layout just type in terminal: setxkbmap de :P
[21:28] <k1l> lolfunnygai: you are sure?
[21:28] <k1l> lolfunnygai: which package is it?
[21:29] <lolfunnygai> kismet
[21:29] <qin_> lotuspsychje: http://travelingfrontiers.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/how-to-add-colors-to-linux-command-line-output/
[21:29] <k1l> lolfunnygai: so we are talking baout backtrack and kali?
[21:29] <m6121> I am thinking about trying Asunder.  Anyone have any opinion?
[21:30] <lolfunnygai> k1l: ubuntu
[21:31] <_name> TJ-: so the problem seems to be that the video drivers cant be loaded
[21:32] <ice9> how to install Mir on Ubuntu 13.04
[21:32] <adios8n> does anyone know what daemon/service to restart when desktop auto-mounting quits functioning (for removable drives)
[21:32] <k1l> lolfunnygai: version in next release will be: 2013.03.R1b-1. so i dont see any problems. when you really need to work in that topic (and not for illegal intentions) you sure will have the time to dig into that topic.
[21:32] <OerHeks> lolfunnygai, kismet is community supported i guess, they choose to work with their ppa http://www.kismetwireless.net/download.shtml
[21:34] <deepblue> ────────────────────────┤ Configuring lightdm ├──────────────────────────┐
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[21:34] <FloodBot1> deepblue: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:34] <kostkon> ice9, http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/
[21:34] <ice9> kostkon, didn't work, package are not in the current repo
[21:34] <Eren97> what is +z again?
[21:34] <lolfunnygai> I don't really have a problem with kismet, I just downloaded it to see what it was. But it striked me that it was from 2008, and made me think that perhaps a lot of ubuntus packages haven't been updated for years
[21:35] <kostkon> ice9, try in 13.10.
[21:36] <arnezt> /server irc.freenode.net:6667
[21:37] <Sameh> Do anyone have idea how to operate nvidia driver on Ubuntu? It's not loaded and conflicts with unity and compiz
[21:38] <k1l> Sameh: install "nvidia-current" from repos. thats it
[21:39] <lolfunnygai> is it bad to add a lot of repositories?
[21:39] <Sameh> K1l. I did that but didn't help and have me glx missing display 0:0 .. I don't know that why? Some applications depending on display stopped working
[21:40] <k1l> lolfunnygai: alot of PPAs brings alot of risk that things break
[21:40] <lolfunnygai> k1l: how come?
[21:40] <k1l> Sameh: that sounds like you installed some driver from another origin or have PPAs enabled which cause trouble now
[21:40] <lolfunnygai> I suppose your repository is where you get your software automatically updated?
[21:41] <k1l> lolfunnygai: because of depencies
[21:41] <lolfunnygai> ah
[21:41] <kostkon> lolfunnygai, if you add official project ppas that at most provide one or two packages then it should be fine
[21:41] <kostkon> lolfunnygai, e.g. wine ppa, etc
[21:41] <lolfunnygai> but adding, say, gentoos repository would most certainly mess things up?
[21:41] <k1l> lolfunnygai: the standard ubuntu repos are tested against each other. but if you add a PPA with a newer version the maintainer has to make sure it doesnt interfer with the original repos
[21:41] <kostkon> lolfunnygai, totally
[21:42] <k1l> lolfunnygai: oh no. dont add other distros repos
[21:42] <teknix_> fun fun
[21:42] <ice9> is there a download manager accelerator for Ubuntu?
[21:42] <mantys89> flareget
[21:42] <wilee-nilee> ice9, there is apt-fast
[21:43] <Territoriojoven> what happened here? http://pastebin.com/M9MNXBEU
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> ice9, There is a ppa for it.
[21:43] <lolfunnygai> but in ubuntus case, the repository stays the same for 6 months, and then constitutes a mega-update?
[21:43] <malkauns> how do i get facebook to work using empathy on 13.04?
[21:43] <k1l> lolfunnygai: no
[21:44] <lolfunnygai> malkauns: I'd try to update empathy to the latest version using their official ppa.. that might or might not be relevant
[21:44] <k1l> Territoriojoven: wubi :(
[21:44] <Territoriojoven> yes
[21:44] <Territoriojoven> i could install ubuntu and xubuntu before
[21:44] <Territoriojoven> why is lubuntu not working now
[21:44] <ice9> wilee-nilee, i mean for general http downloads
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> Territoriojoven, why are you using wubi, it is just for trying out the OS?
[21:44] <Territoriojoven> i waited like 3 hours
[21:45] <Territoriojoven> well i don't have usb or cd/dvd
[21:45] <mantys89> ice9 ->> flareget, uget, prozilla
[21:45] <wilee-nilee> ice9, thats what's it's for.
[21:46] <teknix_> Does anyone use Kali?
[21:46] <macguges> join #lfs-support
[21:46] <wilee-nilee> !kali | teknix_
[21:46] <k1l> teknix_: no kali support in here (its not even based on ubuntu)
[21:46] <teknix_> its debian right
[21:47] <k1l> see the mentioned kali support
[21:47] <teknix_> I'd just get in trouble with it t.t
[21:47] <_name> how do i connect to wifi from the root terminal in recovery mode?
[21:48] <_name> the network option doesnt seem to work and neither does iwconfig
[21:50] <lolfunnygai> alright, so let's say that I do this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa ....     now, what do ubuntu-wine/ppa point to? Wine's website? If so, how does it map "ubuntu-wine/ppa" to http://winehq.org/somethingosmething
[21:50] <OerHeks> lolfunnygai, no, to the PPA @ launchpad
[21:50] <kostkon> lolfunnygai, it maps it to the launchpad ppa not the wine website
[21:50] <k1l> !ppa | lolfunnygai
[21:51] <lolfunnygai> ah.. right. Gotta check out what that launchpad is. Seems to be some kind of NAV
[21:51] <kostkon> lolfunnygai, NAV?
[21:51] <lolfunnygai> I meant, communication central for package distribution something something.
[21:52] <iShotz> I just installed AMD drivers and when i boot to ubuntu, my resolution is fixed at 1280x1024, after i login all i get is my desktop
[21:52] <OerHeks> launchpad is a hidden treasure, complete building service and publishing
[21:52] <kostkon> lolfunnygai, software project hosting website
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> iShotz, really, and you were expecting?
[21:53] <iShotz> Wilee-nilee: working drivers...?
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> iShotz, How can we tell what you see your desktop means that, your desktop seems to be missing something eh.
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> !details | iShotz
[21:55] <OerHeks> iShotz, wilee-nilee wants to know what resolution you expected to see
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> or what is missing..etc
[21:56] <iShotz> Unity is gone and all i can do is drag a box and thats it, before i installed the drivers my reso was 1920x1080, my gpu is Radeon 3000
[21:56] <ice9> will the amd64 desktop iso work on Macbook?
[21:56] <iShotz> I can bring up terminal with ctrl alt t
[21:56] <bekks> ice9: use the mac amd64 iso.
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> iShotz, Ah, are these amd drivers from them or the ubuntu repos?
[21:56] <ice9> bekks, sorry I mean for 13.10 beta
[21:57] <Sheila> how i can delete all sub folder and files in main folder ?
[21:57] <bekks> ice9: The above applies again.
[21:57] <Sheila> and leaving the main folder empty
[21:57] <jrib> Sheila: select the mall, right click, delete
[21:57] <ice9> bekks, there is no mac iso, it's only the amd64 and the i386
[21:57] <bekks> Sheila: When doing so, your system renders unusable and totally broken.
[21:57] <iShotz> First time i tried they were from AMD, i re installed the os since i had the same problem
[21:57] <iShotz> This time, i followed this wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide
[21:58] <OerHeks> Sheila, hit ctrl+h to see if there are hidden files to select too
[21:58] <OerHeks> in nautilus filemanager that is
[21:59] <bekks> ice9: I can see it there: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[21:59] <chamunks> If i want to check any incoming traffic on a port and dump it to a log file what would I need for this?
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> iShotz, I'm not your best help with drivers, mainly I was trying to get you to post enough details for those that are.
[22:00] <iShotz> Oh ok, thanks anyhow
[22:00] <MoPac> Hello -- I'm looking for help understanding and setting PYTHONPATH environment variables. I don't really get which file I need to put lines in or what the "export" command does (Ubuntu 13.04, Python versions 2.7 and 3)
[22:00] <MoPac> chamunks: if you're looking for raw traffic, Wireshark probably
[22:00] <chamunks> MoPac, I have to do this via CMD line
[22:01] <chamunks> I'm just trying to figure out what traffic that I need to pass to servers behind my proxy server for some customers.
[22:01] <jrib> MoPac: why do you even want to mess with PYTHONPATH at all?
[22:01] <MoPac> chamunks: tcpdump maybe?
[22:01] <chamunks> I'll do some googling thanks MoPac
[22:02] <Sheila> MoPac : can you help me
[22:02] <MoPac> jrib: I had a script install a suite of programs, and it suggested that I export a pythonpath to a folder under 2.7 before running them. I think my failure to do this might be a reason why I can't seem to call the scripts from bash
[22:03] <jrib> MoPac: what script?  What suite of programs?
[22:03] <MoPac> jrib: The script is at http://www.sbrac.org/files/build-gnuradio
[22:03] <MoPac> jrib: search the code for the words "you should probably set"
[22:04] <MoPac> Sheila: I don't know if I can help you; what is your question?
[22:04] <jrib> MoPac: gnuradio seems to be in the repositories; why not use the packages in the repositories/
[22:04] <Sheila> how i can delete all sub folder and files in main folder ?
[22:04] <Sheila> and leaving the main folder empty with same name
[22:04] <jrib> Sheila: select them all, right click, delete
[22:04] <Sheila> i use CLI
[22:05] <MoPac> jrib: The script-built and git-hosted versions are more up-to-date and also easier to mess with
[22:05] <jrib> Sheila: why do you want to do this?
[22:05] <jrib> Sheila: what are you deleting exactly?
[22:05] <Sheila> all sub folder and files located in folder
[22:05] <MoPac> jrib: Sheila: from within a folder, would " rmdir -r * " work for that?
[22:06] <jrib> MoPac: apparently not :P  Anyway, you can put PYTHONPATH in ~/.pam_environment.  Or if you need some bashish things, use ~/.profile
[22:06] <jrib> MoPac: no
[22:08] <iShotz> Ok i managed to uninstall the old drivers a bit but unity and the ui is gone still
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> iShotz, have you rebooted?
[22:12] <iShotz> A few times yes
[22:12] <iShotz> Im trying to remove the packages i installed by this wiki
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> since this last adjustment?
[22:12] <halk> Anyone here knows about PCI modems? I have a problem with mine since I upgraded from 12.04 to 13.04. It does not properly communicate (using minicom I get garbage for commands such as ATI)
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> iShotz, If you are using PPA's you would want to use ppa purge
[22:13] <iShotz>  Ppa?
[22:13] <iShotz> Im apt-get purging these
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> iShotz, I noticed that link you posted had references to PPA's is all. really with this you have to give exact info for real help here.
[22:14] <iShotz> Ill upload a video to show my issue fully
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> iShotz, Can you document what you have done so far?
[22:15] <iShotz> Well i installed everything from that wiki
[22:15] <iShotz> Then i removed a few packages
[22:15] <iShotz> Rebooted
[22:15] <iShotz> Removed a few more
[22:15] <iShotz> About to reboot again
[22:15] <wilee-nilee> iShotz, You have to understand how vague that sounds to us is all.
[22:15] <iShotz> I know
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[22:16] <lolfunnygai> "apt-get update" doesn't seem to update my software?
[22:16] <iShotz> Said packages are the ones listed in that wiki
[22:16] <iShotz> Its not meant to funny
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> lolfunnygai, are you running sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:17] <lolfunnygai> wilee-nilee: no, but I will now :)
[22:17] <lolfunnygai> I suppose
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> why not eh
[22:17] <lolfunnygai> so, when there's a new ubuntu version out, does "apt-get upgrade" install that too?
[22:17] <jrib> lolfunnygai: no
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> iShotz, That wiki had many options, they do not all go together is all, most here will not wade through all of it.
[22:18] <iShotz> Screw this, im re installing again
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> lolfunnygai:  upgrade - ONLY upgrades to the latest packages in the current 'release'
[22:18] <jrib> Sheila: if you don't answer questions, we can't help you
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> iShotz, when you do a frsh install does it work fine?
[22:18] <lolfunnygai> so when I want the newest ubuntu, I'll have to get the .iso image and upgrade my system from there?
[22:18] <iShotz> Yeah fresh install have no issues
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> lolfunnygai:  do-release-upgrade    can go to the next released version
[22:18] <halk> lolfunnygai: that's do-release-upgrade to go to a new full version
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> lolfunnygai:  so thats a no also. ;)
[22:19] <iShotz> Its only after i installed these drivers
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> iShotz, I would stick with that then.
[22:19] <iShotz> But i need these drivers for my games
[22:19] <kostkon> lolfunnygai, just use the updater
[22:19] <k1l> !upgrade | lolfunnygai
[22:19] <lolfunnygai> lol, k
[22:19] <iShotz> Aka steam
[22:19] <lolfunnygai> thnk
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> iShotz, You want the drivers from the ubuntu repos is all, for best use. I would talk with the channel before you mess with the drivers in lieu of doing changes is all for steam.
[22:20] <iShotz> Also, good news netflix users
[22:20] <iShotz> Ok wil
[22:21] <iShotz> I talked to their live chat and i convinced them to move to HTML 5
[22:21] <kostkon> iShotz, old newzz
[22:21] <iShotz> Srsly
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> ill belive it when i see it.
[22:21] <iShotz> Appantly im down for beta testing
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> !cookie | iShotz for convincing netflix
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[22:22] <ice9> how to create bootable Ubuntu USB with GUID partition table to boot on Macbook?
[22:22] <iShotz> I nagged them about html5 a few months back
[22:22] <halk> Any idea why an internal modem would stop working in Ubuntu 13.04 vs 12.04?
[22:22] <iShotz> So yey
[22:22] <halk> It's a Search Results   MultiTech MT9234ZPX-UPCI
[22:22] <iShotz> Now all i need is native support on adobe and autodesk stuff
[22:23] <kostkon> iShotz, will neven happen
[22:23] <kostkon> never*
[22:23] <iShotz> Also, you dudes heard of SteamOS?
[22:23] <kostkon> y
[22:23] <lolfunnygai> but if I upgrade, will the repositories that I've added in my repository list file (something like "deb http://winehq.org RELEASENAME something"), change to the releasename to the name of my upgraded release?
[22:23] <iShotz> kostkon: i can dream
[22:23] <kostkon> iShotz, ubuntu 12.04 based
[22:24] <iShotz> I figured it'd be Ubuntu based
[22:25] <k1l> lolfunnygai: yes, the updater does that. but the question is, if the repository got packages for that new release.
[22:26] <lolfunnygai> ah
[22:26] <lolfunnygai> it seems that wine's PPA only had 1.4.1 (the newest is 1.7) for my release
[22:26] <k1l> lolfunnygai: well, more accurate. it will disable the non origin repos to make sure the upgrade doesnt get in trouble because of faulty non origin packages
[22:26] <kostkon> lolfunnygai, the updater will update and then disable any 3rd party repos before proceeding
[22:26] <lolfunnygai> but that's not really a concern, is it?
[22:27] <k1l> lolfunnygai: dont get on the "the latest is the best" train
[22:27] <kostkon> lolfunnygai, oyu can enable them yourself afterwards
[22:27] <lolfunnygai> k1l: hmm... really?
[22:27] <k1l> thats why i asked: do you really need the latest version.
[22:27] <lolfunnygai> nah, but in my experience they're often nicer from a user experience perspective, and usability perspective
[22:28] <k1l> and from the "it will brake my installation" perspective?
[22:28] <k1l> *break
[22:29] <halk> k1l: when you jump from an LTS to another, you break EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE!
[22:29] <halk> I've done that, once...
[22:29] <kostkon> halk, ??
[22:29] <halk> At least, when you upgrade every 6 months / 1 year, you don't have to repair everything all at once.
[22:29] <k1l> halk: worked for me several times. just yesterday
[22:30] <halk> kostkon: when you run many services, they tend to break (incompatible configuration files)
[22:30] <lolfunnygai> hmm, I see. And this is due to how the OS eco system works?
[22:30] <kostkon> halk, that's another story i guess
[22:30] <lolfunnygai> eh, open source eco system
[22:30] <lolfunnygai> and in this case, ubuntu in particular
[22:31] <kostkon> lolfunnygai, what exactly?
[22:31] <lolfunnygai> kostkon: that things break
[22:31] <kostkon> halk, my lts -> lts upgrades were successful
[22:31] <lolfunnygai> if you compare it to windows, everybody gets the same updates from microsoft.
[22:31] <kostkon> lolfunnygai, not it's not normal. upgrades, in any OS, can fail sometimes
[22:32] <kostkon> lolfunnygai, what do you mean
[22:32] <qwebirc29536> if you don't use many PPAs related to low-level components of your OS, then they should be mostly reliable with minor issues (upgrading)
[22:32] <k1l> even upgrades on windows machines can break. that is not the point. in general lts to lts upgrade work
[22:32] <SolarAquarion> how do I properly build packages for ubuntu?
[22:32] <halk> kostkon: the upgrade itself works, the services don't
[22:32] <kostkon> lolfunnygai, in ubuntu everyone gets the same updates from canonical
[22:32] <halk> kostkon: for example, right now my fax service is down because the OS doesn't talk to the modem PCI card...
[22:33] <lolfunnygai> kostkon: I mean that the compability of software on linux systems are much more complex than that on windows
[22:33] <SolarAquarion> i mean packaging sofware
[22:33] <gordonjcp> halk: good
[22:33] <gordonjcp> halk: fax machines need to die
[22:33] <k1l> halk: that could be because of the new drivers in new kernels.
[22:33] <gordonjcp> !packaging | SolarAquarion
[22:34] <lolfunnygai> halk: yes, but canonical get their "system critical" packages from a lot of places
[22:34] <gordonjcp> lolfunnygai: no, all the Ubuntu packages come from the Ubuntu servers
[22:34] <lolfunnygai> in windows, a program might just be dependent on what service pack you've installed. In linux, it depends on what version of a lot of dependencies that you've got
[22:34] <halk> gordonjcp: lolfunnygai is correct, all the free software comes from all over the place
[22:34] <lolfunnygai> gordonjcp: the ubuntu servers gets some of it from github
[22:35] <halk> k1l: yes, I am thinking that the "Exar Corp. XR17C/D152 Dual PCI UART (rev 02) (prog-if 02 [16550])" has changed and was hoping someone here would know something about it
[22:36] <lolfunnygai> halk: which makes it all more complex. Upgrading one package might break package A but fix package B (which in turn might mean compability issues for C)
[22:36] <gordonjcp> halk: right, but the packages all come from *one* place
[22:36] <gordonjcp> lolfunnygai: and?
[22:36] <Pici> *packages*
[22:36] <k1l> halk: besides ranting and flaming you should actually give a proper issue explanation with details. so people can help
[22:36] <gordonjcp> lolfunnygai: the *packages* are all from one source
[22:36] <halk> gordonjcp: yeah, although you could be using PPA packages and even Debian packages...
[22:37] <gordonjcp> halk: right, but it's not advisable to use Debian packages
[22:37] <halk> (as in packages that were compiled for Debian opposed to Ubuntu itself)
[22:37] <lolfunnygai> my point was just that, that's the reason why you can't always have the lastest version of everything that easy.
[22:37] <gordonjcp> lolfunnygai: yes
[22:37] <gordonjcp> lolfunnygai: it does take time to package stuff up
[22:37] <gordonjcp> lolfunnygai: you could use Arch Linux, where everything is so new that half the time it doesn't work properly ;-)
[22:38] <halk> lolfunnygai: I am aware of those problems... I wrote wpkg so I could manage packages under MS-Windows... http://windowspackager.org/
[22:38] <zykotick9> halk: fyi, mixing packages from different distros is a TERRIBLE idea.
[22:39] <gordonjcp> halk: oh, like using dpkg but for Windows?
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> even mixing from differnt releases - is a nasty idea
[22:39] <halk> gordonjcp: some companies have no idea Linux exists...
[22:39] <gordonjcp> halk: <shrug>
[22:39] <OerHeks> Best advise is to use backports or even more kinky proposed ubuntu-repo
[22:39] <lolfunnygai> it's just quite interesting how a huge amount of different "unrelated modular programmers" can combine their work like that.
[22:40] <gordonjcp> halk: I must admit, I don't really know how packages work in Windows, or how to install stuff
[22:40] <lolfunnygai> but that's another discussion
[22:43] <matti-007> !op
[22:43] <kostkon> ??
[22:49] <Achilles`> Hi all,
[22:49] <kamiyuh> hullo
[22:49] <Achilles`> Any Ptrace gurus around?
[22:54] <lolfunnygai> what do you guys think about flash?
[22:54] <lolfunnygai> needed? (I know it's a "dumb" question)
[22:55] <lolfunnygai> but perhaps you have some nice philosophy behind your choise
[22:55] <Hodapp> I think Flash needs to die in a fire.
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> !ot
[22:55] <StarFlower> when I look at the files in my folders there is always text overlaying the bottom file, is there a way to turn that off
[22:56] <lolfunnygai> on an ubuntu system that is, is it useful? My question is really: how can you watch youtube on ubuntu without it? do you need it?
[22:56] <Achilles`> No one familiar with Ptrace around then?
[22:56] <Hodapp> lolfunnygai: You can watch youtube videos with youtube-dl or various other programs without needing Flash. You can watch them in the browser (for the most part) with HTML5 - though the ads are not HTML5, and you'll need Chrome/Chromium to get H264 video support for HTML5.
[22:57] <Territoriojoven> WHY is the wubi for lubuntu taking 2 hours after download!?
[22:57] <Hodapp> lolfunnygai: I'm on Arch, not Ubuntu, but I've not installed Flash on this box, and I've encountered very few sites that insist on Flash for their video.
[22:57] <yeats> Achilles`: you'll probably get farther by asking your actual question
[22:58] <lolfunnygai> but ubuntu seems to require it.
[22:58] <Achilles`> ah makes sense…. well, here's my problem.
[22:58] <lolfunnygai> but I've ff 24.0, it should support html5
[22:58] <StarFlower> Does anyone know if theres a way to turn off the text that covers the bottom files in the file manager
[22:58] <Hodapp> lolfunnygai: It's not whether it supports HTML5 or not, it's that it doesn't do all the codecs required.
[22:58] <Hodapp> lolfunnygai: go to youtube.com/html5 (I think) and it will show you.
[22:59] <Hodapp> lolfunnygai: there might be ways to hack Firefox into doing H264, but I've never tried; Chrome can do it just fine.
 WHY is the wubi for lubuntu taking 2 hours after download!?
[22:59] <lolfunnygai> ah, non-free codec
[23:00] <lolfunnygai> is it specifically firefox, or just not my system that supports it?
[23:00] <lolfunnygai> (ubuntu of course)
[23:00] <Achilles`> I want to stop a forked child (PTRACE_TRACEME).. then do some set up in the parent process before I unblock the child (execev) to continue. How do I make the child continue ONLY after a certain point in my code, after I have finished all my set up… I don't want to Single Step or anything… I just want to collect some performance data on the forked child.
[23:00] <Hodapp> lolfunnygai: It's Firefox + Linux.
[23:00] <Achilles`> Trouble is… I don't know how to make it continue after that certain point.
[23:00] <utusan> I'd rather have flash than M$ silverlight
[23:01] <lolfunnygai> silverlight, ugh
[23:01] <lolfunnygai> it's forced upon you, but not useful for you
[23:01] <lolfunnygai> sorry, ot though
[23:01] <Hodapp> utusan: Flash certainly gets you further, than the approximately zero sites that use solely Silverlight.
[23:02] <utusan> Hodapp: there are sites that force you to have silverlight
[23:02] <Hodapp> utusan: They're very few.
[23:02] <lolfunnygai> and they use silverlight not because it's useful, but because they're forced to when they use certain MS publishing tools
[23:02] <Hodapp> utusan: The only one I'm aware of is Netflix.
[23:02] <Hodapp> and even they relax that rule for some clients.
[23:02] <Achilles`> Anyone?
[23:02] <jake> Hi
[23:02] <halk> Achiles: signal STOP
[23:02] <utusan> Hodapp: true very few but not zero as you claimed
[23:03] <halk> Achiles: then later signal CONT
[23:03] <Guest3171> I just installed Xubuntu 13.04
[23:03] <Nothing_Much> Who uses Silverlight anymore? MS is pulling the plug on it too from what I've heard.
[23:03] <Ulfalizer> i tried to install a 32-bit version of SDL on my amd64 install, and apt decided to remove a whole bunch of critical packages. looks like i'm currently without a window manager. any tips for getting it back? :P
[23:03] <Hodapp> utusan: I said approximately zero. Compared to the number of sites using Flash, it is.
[23:03] <Ulfalizer> ought to be a package for it...
[23:03] <Nothing_Much> Ulfalizer, the window manager?
[23:03] <Nothing_Much> it should be compiz
[23:03] <Hodapp> which is probably part of why MS is shitcanning it.
[23:03] <Guest3171> However, there's something labelled UDF Volume on the desktop, even though I didn't create any seperate partitions
[23:04] <Ulfalizer> ok, let's see if i can get another terminal up...
[23:04] <Nothing_Much> hang on Ulfalizer You're using Ubuntu right?
[23:04] <Ulfalizer> yup
[23:04] <Achilles`> @halk I tried CONT, somehow the parents get blocked I think till the child can finish… which is not what I had in mind.
[23:04] <Achilles`> get/gets*
[23:04] <Nothing_Much> Alright, it's compiz, if you used a different DE it would've been different
[23:04] <lolfunnygai> hmmm... I suppose my system is somewhat respects my privacy right now (it's a fresh install). But of what I've heard, google
[23:04] <Ulfalizer> Nothing_Much: sudo apt-get install compiz?
[23:04] <Nothing_Much> Ulfalizer, yes
[23:04] <Ulfalizer> not sure if that's what i'm currently missing, but the windows have no chrome at least
[23:04] <Nothing_Much> it's that and try unity as well
[23:05] <halk> Achiles: there is no reason why the parent would hang at that time, these are just signals...
[23:05] <Ulfalizer> ok, thanks
[23:05] <Nothing_Much> which version of Ubuntu btw?
[23:05] <Achilles`> @halk Thanks man… let me give it another try and see if it works.
[23:05] <Ulfalizer> Nothing_Much: 13.02
[23:06] <Nothing_Much> Ulfalizer, do 'sudo apt-get install unity' first
[23:06] <Nothing_Much> that should give you the proper dependencies for Ubuntu back
[23:06] <Nothing_Much> at least for the window manager
[23:06] <lolfunnygai> I don't know how much of a ubuntu question this is. Now, I suppose my system is somewhat respects my privacy right now (it's a fresh install). But of what I've heard, google's gmail app "hacked" the iOS sandbox and placed privacy intruding cookies in the safari browser. If I install chrome, will my overall system privacy be compromiced by them?
[23:06] <Ulfalizer> did them in the opposite order. seems to have worked though. :)
[23:06] <Ulfalizer> thanks!
[23:06] <Guest3171> Pictures:
[23:06] <Guest3171> http://imgur.com/pQhbnHX,ncjGPv5
[23:07] <Nothing_Much> not a problem Ulfalizer
[23:07] <Guest3171> So, if it's a swap partition, why is it showing up as a mountable partition?
[23:07] <Ulfalizer> wouldn't be surprised if something else is messed up with this system now though...
[23:08] <Ulfalizer> *reboot*
[23:08] <Guest3171> ?
[23:08] <Nothing_Much> is there a Debian channel for armel/armhf stuff?
[23:09] <Pici> Nothing_Much: start in #debian and see what they say?
[23:09] <Nothing_Much> Ah okay
[23:09] <utusan> try in oftc
[23:09] <zykotick9> Nothing_Much: try on OFTC
[23:09] <Pici> Nothing_Much: also try on oftc, I think thats where debian's official channels are
[23:09] <zykotick9> utusan: ;)
[23:09] <Nothing_Much> oftc?
[23:09] <utusan> debian doesn't use freenode
[23:09] <Nothing_Much> Ohh
[23:09] <Nothing_Much> That's a shame
[23:09] <Nothing_Much> Well
[23:09] <Ulfalizer> seems it removed e.g. gnome-terminal as well...
[23:10] <Ulfalizer> those apt-get install <package>:i386 commands seem dangerous as hell
[23:10] <Ulfalizer> i had imagined it would just install a i386 version alongside the 64-bit one :/
[23:10] <Nothing_Much> I was hoping to know why I couldn't find Unity (the interface) on Armhf or armel
[23:10] <Guest3171> And here's the output of dmesg | tail
[23:10] <Guest3171> http://imgur.com/LKPAszw
[23:10] <XRS1> whats the hdparm to remove write ptoection from a SATA drive?
[23:10] <zykotick9> Ulfalizer: not all packages are multiarch aware at this point, so yes, can be dangerous.
[23:11] <Ulfalizer> zykotick9: would it do that if it was a multiarch-aware package?
[23:11] <zykotick9> Ulfalizer: no.  but CHECK what is happening with apt-get BEFORE you proceed in future.
[23:11] <Guest3171> Hello?
[23:12] <Ulfalizer> yeah, should look into that. do a dry run thingie first...
[23:12] <XRS1> protection*
[23:12] <zykotick9> Ulfalizer: just default apt-get install foo will tell you want it's gonna do, before it does it...
[23:13] <Ulfalizer> might've seen the "deleting x packages" and thought "prolly needed to set things up for multiarch" :)
[23:13] <Ulfalizer> bit naive
[23:13] <Ulfalizer> *removing
[23:14] <Ulfalizer> ah well, it was a fresh install at least, and i know what not to do in the future :P
[23:14] <Guest3171> So, any ideas?
[23:16] <XRS1> Guest3171,  have you tried running testdisk?
[23:16] <Guest3171> not yet
[23:16] <XRS1> that will try and repair the drive
[23:19] <Ulfalizer> while i'm here - what would you suggest for cross-compiling and testing 32-bit versions of an app on 64-bit ubuntu?
[23:20] <Ulfalizer> that depends on non-multiarch-aware packages
[23:20] <Ulfalizer> one of the reasons i got a 64-bit install was to be able to test both easily, but maybe it's not that straightforward
[23:21] <XRS1> gcc and both the 32bit and 64bit libs
[23:21] <Ulfalizer> what would be a good way to get the 32-bit sdl libs alongside the 64-bit ones?
[23:22] <Ulfalizer> and possibly other non-multiarch-aware packages
[23:23] <Ulfalizer> google suggests chrooting. i'll look into that.
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> 32bit test os - inside virtualbox perhaps?
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> to better simulate what a 32bit user would have
[23:24] <Ulfalizer> Dr_Willis: that'd work, but i'd rather not have to deal with cumbersome VMs unless necessary
[23:24] <Ulfalizer> yeah, that'd be an advantage
[23:24] <XRS1> well you cant test something without actually testing it
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> I dont find lubuntu in vbox cumbersom ;)
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> given how my normal 'setup' is so tweaked compared to a vanilla install of ubuntu - id think you would want to test in a 'clean' known install in any case
[23:25] <Ulfalizer> XRS1: it's better than nothing, and i'd probably do more rigorous testing before releases
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> at least you are not asking how to get your app in the default ubuntu repos just so you can have others test it. ;)  (had someone in here demanding to do that the other day, he dident even want to bother making his own ppa) ;P
[23:26] <zykotick9> Ulfalizer: you may run into issue with chroot and X... best of luck.
[23:28] <zippo^> hello, xinput set-prop 12 "Device Enabled" 0 works great. but when the computer restart, than must I again xinput set-prop 12 "Device Enabled" 0. where can I a setting from automatic?
[23:29] <loa> hello, how i can make loading of ubuntu really sillent?
[23:30] <loa> sometimes when ubuntu boot i see warning or other output of init scripts
[23:30] <Ulfalizer> zykotick9: yeah, not sure how that would work with something like sdl, which needs to link against the x libs :/
[23:30] <loa> how i can switch it off complete?
[23:30] <Ulfalizer> if those are 64-bit as well, you'd need a whole separate system with a ton of packages in the chroot it seems...
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> loa:  if theres a 'disk needing fsck'ed message' you really really do want to see those. ;)
[23:31] <Ulfalizer> bleh
[23:31] <loa> Dr_Willis, =/
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> loa:  most people come in here asking how to see all the messages ;)
[23:32]  * Ulfalizer wonders what the least-hassle vm thingy you could run is
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> because by default -  pymouth covers up most all of them  in many cases
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> Ulfalizer:  vbox is rather easy to get going
[23:32] <loa> Dr_Willis, it really anoing that i see messages for example about stunnel or something like this)
[23:32] <loa> i just want emblem of ubuntu)
[23:32] <Ulfalizer> ok
[23:33] <loa> without any text and artefacts
[23:33] <loa> but knowlege about seeing all text messages will be good information too)
[23:33] <loa> but i think i no how i can do)
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> !text
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> the system boots to a framebuffer mode, and plymouth runs as soon as possible to give you the lovely (and often broken) ubuntu ....     loading screen
[23:34] <OerHeks> "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" should prevent 'normal' text messages
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> it never seems to work right for me. because of issues with the nvidia drivers
[23:34] <lb_> Can someone help me?
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> "quiet splash" is the defaults as far as i know.
[23:36] <lbb2> Can someone help me?
[23:36] <Frozenlock> Hello gentlemen. Yesterday I updated my machine (sudo apt-get update) and since then my screens turn black a few seconds after boot. Audio is disabled as well, and pretty much everything else. It's as if my machine was going into sleep mode, and getting stuck in it.
[23:36] <OerHeks> just ask lbb2
[23:36] <Frozenlock> Is this a known problem for the last few updates?
[23:37] <lbb2> I need help.. OerHeks
[23:37] <lbb2> I'm installing UbunTu in Virtual Box on my Windows 8 lap Top. Everytime it is done it asks me to restart and everytime I do Virtual Box stops working and it says it is not responding. I tried this with UbunTu 12.04 TLS and 13.04 I even unistalled Virtual Box and tried again and it didn't work.
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> hmm.
[23:41] <jared_> Hello
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> howdies
[23:42] <Guest98274> Is there a way to get Ubuntu on a 700mb disc, like a Ubuntu thats 700mb for 64bit pc
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu i belive fits on a 700mb cd   Guest98274
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> or use an older ubuntu release.
[23:43] <Guest98274> can i have a link
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> !torrents
[23:43] <Guest98274> im not very used to this
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> !lubuntu
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu - is ubuntu without unity. but using the lxde desktop instead
[23:43] <Guest98274> im using XUbuntu
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> most people use a USB to install from these days Guest98274
[23:44] <Guest98274> i use a cd, but u can use usb drives??
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> you have been able to use a bootalbe usb flash for like.. years...
[23:44] <Guest98274> WOW
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> most all disrtos do it that way these days. or can
[23:44] <Guest98274> how can i boot them on though, do i need a special one
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> Ive ran whold systems off of a 32gb usb flash. ;)
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> you just use a tool to put the ISO file on the usb in a special way
[23:45] <Guest98274> like??
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[23:45] <shusain> Guest nearly all bios chips support the option but you have to go into bios sometimes
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> !install
[23:45] <yeats> Guest98274: unetbootin is a good option too
[23:45] <Guest98274> k,well i gtg ima look into that
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> ive had way to many issues with unetbootin over the years.  :) not tried it recently
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> some of the tools at pendrivelinux have much nicer feature sets.
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> like Multi ISO files on a single usb. ;)
[23:47] <Ulfalizer> one issue i had when installing earlier today was that i couldn't change the boot order to put the usb stick first as it'd confuse the installer and break the install (infinite blinking cursor). had to keep the boot order with the disk first and force boot from the usb stick in the bios instead. :/
[23:47] <Ulfalizer> stuff like that could be more robust
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> Ulfalizer:  ive not seen that been an issue in years.
[23:47] <Ulfalizer> this is a two-year-old core-i7 machine
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> I dont have to change th4e order to install. i just tell the bios to boot the usb
[23:47] <Ulfalizer> don't remember mobo off the top of my head. ssd drive.
[23:48] <Ulfalizer> had to tell it to boot from the usb rather than put the usb first in the boot order though
[23:48] <Ulfalizer> my bios has an option for that
[23:48] <Dr_Willis> you do have to double check that the GRUB loader is going on the MBR of the hd you plan on booting once you install.
[23:48] <Ulfalizer> seemed to be the difference between sda and sdb in the installer, so some confusion over mappings i guess...
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> you dont need to put the USB first. ;)  unless you want it to always boot the usb if its plugged in.. but if you remove the usb. that bios setting gets reset from what ive seen
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> now years ago - i had a pc that whatever HD you selected to boot from the bios menu - became 'sda' that really really casued issues.  this was befor the switch to 'UUID' nameing
[23:50] <Ulfalizer> Dr_Willis: i don't think putting the usb stick first in the boot order should break the install though. in many older bios:es that was the only way to boot from a cd iirc, if you also had a bootable hdd.
[23:50] <unknown__> Will someone teach me how to expand a Windows 7 iso onto a flash drive using ubuntu?
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> Ive seen grub break for many other reasns Ulfalizer   - i imagine 'boot-repair' from a live cd - would have fixed your issues
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> unknown__:  you can use the 'dd' command to Image a ISO file straight to a usb.
[23:50] <Ulfalizer> oh, wasn't aware of that option
[23:51] <Dr_Willis> unknown__:  ie:  ->   'sudo dd if=windows.iso  of=/dev/sdX bs=4M'     where sdX is the proper device name for your USB.. DONT get it wrong.
[23:51] <Fyodorovna> unknown_, ntfs with a boot flag, exstract it to it with the archive manager.
[23:51] <Ulfalizer> did a linux from scratch thingy years ago, and i remember there being some guesswork involved in the bios->device mappings in grub, so not that weird if it's easily confused
[23:51] <unknown__> Dr_Willis ; Thank you, but I not sure what I'm doing
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> grub not getting set right = is a top 10 problem these days
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> unknown__:  id suggest asking in #windows for guideance. they may know of some guides
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> unknown__:  the pendrivelinux site might have some tools to automate it also. Ive never put windows on a usb that way.
[23:52] <unknown__> Dr_Willis the Iso is in my homefolder and it's name is X17-24281.iso
[23:52] <Fyodorovna> there is a forked to linux usb windows loader from ms
[23:53] <unknown__> do you have a link fyodorovna?
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html
[23:55] <threesixes> oh yeah ubuntu 12.04 saving the day
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> seems unetbootin at one time had the feature as well
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> it may still have it. ;)
[23:55] <unknown__> Thank you Dr_willis
[23:56] <unknown__> I tried unetbootin but it didn't seem to work, maybe user error :P
[23:57] <Fyodorovna> unknown_ look up winusb, it's a forked windows usb loader
[23:58] <Fyodorovna> unknown_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/116885/can-i-use-ubuntu-to-write-a-windows-7-iso-to-usb-in-ubuntu
[23:59] <Fyodorovna> It canbe installed without the ppa I believe, as a download