| === xin_ is now known as zhangchao_ | ||
| === jzheng_afk is now known as jzheng | ||
| jzheng | ping maclin | 06:25 |
|---|---|---|
| maclin | jzheng, pong | 06:26 |
| happyaron | JackYu: 今天的CD生成咋样？ | 08:10 |
| happyaron | maclin: ^ | 08:10 |
| JackYu | happyaron, 64位的可以了，32位还有点问题。 | 08:11 |
| JackYu | 不过刚才cjwatson说是整个系统都出问题了。 | 08:11 |
| happyaron | 没看见i386的log | 08:12 |
| happyaron | 哦 | 08:12 |
| happyaron | 那就等一下吧 | 08:12 |
| happyaron | JackYu: 能否再找steve/cjwatson弄一下youker-assistant的FFe | 08:12 |
| happyaron | 要来不及了 | 08:12 |
| JackYu | happyaron, 咱们今天得把default-settings和youker-assistant更新了 | 08:13 |
| JackYu | happyaron, OK | 08:13 |
| happyaron | JackYu: qimpanel目前还trap在NEW里，因为source和binary各要review一次，现在是binary NEW | 08:13 |
| smartboyhw | happyaron, binary NEW gets through real quick... | 08:14 |
| smartboyhw | As long as there are Archive Admins woke up | 08:14 |
| smartboyhw | If one approves source NEW, there should not be a problem with binary NEW | 08:15 |
| happyaron | smartboyhw: suspect no one is around | 08:15 |
| smartboyhw | happyaron, huh? | 08:15 |
| smartboyhw | I see cjwatson | 08:15 |
| happyaron | smartboyhw: he's busy and not processing it frequently | 08:15 |
| happyaron | JackYu: 如果你ping了steve/cjwatson中的任何一个，请他们把qimpanel尽快binNEW吧 | 08:16 |
| JackYu | Ok | 08:16 |
| happyaron | JackYu: 否则default-settings上传就会出broken dependency | 08:16 |
| smartboyhw | happyaron, at least you guys got through source NEW, I'm in need of somebody to make uploads | 08:16 |
| JackYu | smartboyhw, :( | 08:17 |
| smartboyhw | JackYu, technically, it's Studio packages fixing bugs without requiring NEW | 08:17 |
| smartboyhw | But i need somebody to upload, IIRC. | 08:17 |
| smartboyhw | Asked dholbach, says he needs to get through some e-mail before that | 08:17 |
| JackYu | happyaron, Laney答应晚点看FFe。 | 08:31 |
| happyaron | JackYu: 好的 | 08:32 |
| JackYu | happyaron, New: accepted fcitx-qimpanel | 08:37 |
| smartboyhw | Congratulations people | 08:37 |
| happyaron | JackYu: 赞 | 08:37 |
| JackYu | smartboyhw, :), how about yours? | 08:37 |
| smartboyhw | JackYu, not yet, pinged dholbach again. | 08:37 |
| happyaron | JackYu: 我比较建议去掉manpages-zh | 08:41 |
| happyaron | JackYu: 质量真心不好 | 08:41 |
| JackYu | smartboyhw, hope you and happyaron will be u developer soon. 这样就方便了，哈哈。 | 08:41 |
| happyaron | 现在弄起来比较困难啊 | 08:42 |
| happyaron | 两年前很容易，从去年开始变得非常难了。 | 08:42 |
| JackYu | happyaron, 我们以后可以维护这个package | 08:42 |
| happyaron | 嗯？ | 08:42 |
| smartboyhw | happyaron, no, you should say you hope us to be archive admins :P | 08:42 |
| smartboyhw | JackYu, ^ | 08:42 |
| JackYu | happyaron, 现在是谁在维护manpages-zh啊？ | 08:43 |
| happyaron | JackYu: 没人 | 08:44 |
| JackYu | happyaron, Chinese Man Pages Project? 现在没人管了？ | 08:46 |
| happyaron | JackYu: 好多年没人理了 | 08:46 |
| smartboyhw | Where's the original webpage?:P | 08:47 |
| JackYu | 好像找不到了。 | 08:53 |
| happyaron | JackYu: 还保留么？ | 08:57 |
| * happyaron 在准备-default-settings | 08:57 | |
| JackYu | happyaron, 那去掉吧。 | 08:58 |
| happyaron | ok | 08:58 |
| happyaron | JackYu: rar/unrar 这俩能装么？ | 08:58 |
| JackYu | pishuilu,请将upstream上的manpages-zh去掉。 | 08:59 |
| smartboyhw | JackYu, the manpages-zh won't automatically disappear in Ubuntu | 08:59 |
| happyaron | p7zip-full可以装，但是rar/unrar这俩可能有问题 | 08:59 |
| smartboyhw | You need to file a bug (and subscribe archive admins) to get it removed in Ubuntu | 08:59 |
| JackYu | happyaron, 我们测过，rar/unrar有的。 | 09:00 |
| happyaron | JackYu: 我是说，license允许么 | 09:00 |
| JackYu | rar/unrar是什么License? | 09:00 |
| happyaron | JackYu: 私有，和winrar一样 | 09:01 |
| smartboyhw | That's a suck:P | 09:01 |
| JackYu | 噢，既然已经在Archieve里面，是否表示我们就可以安装？ | 09:01 |
| happyaron | 不是 | 09:02 |
| happyaron | JackYu: 他的意思是，大家自觉，买了license再装。 | 09:02 |
| happyaron | lol | 09:02 |
| JackYu | 。。。 | 09:02 |
| happyaron | 允许分发 | 09:02 |
| happyaron | 但不允许没买license就用 | 09:02 |
| JackYu | 那就换成 p7zip-full吧:( | 09:03 |
| happyaron | ok | 09:03 |
| JackYu | 好的，我让pishuilu更新一下:) | 09:03 |
| pishuilu | 好的，我在upstream上改一下 | 09:03 |
| zhangchao_ | p7zip会抢zip和unzip功能吗？ | 09:04 |
| happyaron | 貌似不会 | 09:04 |
| happyaron | 会抢就好了？ | 09:04 |
| happyaron | 我直接更新了 lp:ubuntukylin-default-settings | 09:04 |
| happyaron | p7zip 要是不合适就去掉 | 09:05 |
| happyaron | 但是感觉可能还是得用 | 09:05 |
| zhangchao_ | p7zip的zip包也有中文编码问题的，现在必须是zip库生效才能解决那个乱码问题 | 09:05 |
| happyaron | 哪个zip库？ | 09:05 |
| zhangchao_ | zip和unzip | 09:05 |
| happyaron | libzip? | 09:06 |
| zhangchao_ | 就叫zip，zip_3.0-7_i386.deb | 09:08 |
| happyaron | zip不是库啊 | 09:09 |
| happyaron | http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/zip | 09:10 |
| zhangchao_ | 刚试了下，p7zip-full会抢zip的功能，又有乱码了 | 09:15 |
| happyaron | zhangchao_: 那你的意见是不加？ JackYu ? | 09:15 |
| pishuilu | 我觉得不加得了。rar的解压缩，用户自己装就行了 | 09:17 |
| happyaron | 那干掉。。 | 09:18 |
| happyaron | pishuilu zhangchao zhangchao_ 你们再看一下branch里有没有要改动的了 | 09:23 |
| happyaron | 没有的话我一会儿就传 | 09:23 |
| JackYu | happyaron, 不加p7zip了。 | 09:26 |
| happyaron | 嗯，已经删了 | 09:26 |
| happyaron | 最后看一下行不行，行我就传 | 09:26 |
| happyaron | https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntukylin-members/ubuntukylin-default-settings/trunk | 09:26 |
| JackYu | 我看了一下，应该没问题。 | 09:27 |
| happyaron | 好的 | 09:29 |
| happyaron | JackYu: uploaded 1.0.7 | 09:32 |
| happyaron | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/ubuntukylin-default-settings/1.0.7 | 09:32 |
| JackYu | happyaron, great:) | 09:32 |
| JackYu | 现在就剩youker-assistant | 09:33 |
| happyaron | 对 | 09:33 |
| === jzheng is now known as jzheng_afk | ||
| smartboyhw | maclin, you might want a respin so that you can start reporting bugs against Beta 2. | 11:20 |
| maclin | smartboyhw,yes, but the qatracker does not work now | 12:00 |
| smartboyhw | maclin, -.- | 12:02 |
| maclin | cjwatson said the livefs builder down since two days ago | 12:02 |
| smartboyhw | Anyhow, i386 builds don't work too | 12:02 |
| maclin | yes, yesterday I ever ask you about the building time. In fact, the i386 didn't build ^_^ | 12:03 |
| happyaron | *.ubuntu.com 这会儿巨慢。。。 | 15:12 |
| smartboyhw | Stupid London DC :P | 15:13 |
| smartboyhw | happyaron, developer.ubuntu.com is quitequick | 15:13 |
| happyaron | maybe stupic carrier at my side | 15:14 |
| happyaron | stupid | 15:14 |
| JackYu | 时快时慢。 | 15:17 |
| happyaron | 貌似default-settings卡在proposed了 | 15:23 |
| happyaron | 已经final freeze了么？ | 15:23 |
| happyaron | 还是说cjwaston的bot挂了一堆呢 | 15:24 |
| happyaron | 貌似是他的问题 | 15:24 |
| smartboyhw | happyaron, you need a unblock | 15:24 |
| smartboyhw | Since the Beta 2 freeze is imposed | 15:24 |
| happyaron | smartboyhw: 什么时候开始的？ | 15:25 |
| smartboyhw | happyaron, this afternoon? | 15:25 |
| happyaron | smartboyhw: 从ui freeze么？ | 15:25 |
| smartboyhw | See ubuntu-devel-announce | 15:25 |
| smartboyhw | happyaron, no | 15:25 |
| smartboyhw | FinalBetaFreeze is another thing | 15:25 |
| smartboyhw | It means all packages related to flavours having a Beta 2 will be frozen and blocked from entering -releaes | 15:25 |
| smartboyhw | happyaron, you can ask for a unblock | 15:25 |
| smartboyhw | in #ubuntu-release | 15:25 |
| smartboyhw | (ping Riddell might be a better idea) | 15:26 |
| happyaron | smartboyhw: 就是final beta freeze | 15:27 |
| happyaron | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2013-September/001059.html | 15:28 |
| happyaron | freeze date moved :( | 15:28 |
| happyaron | JackYu: ^ | 15:28 |
| smartboyhw | happyaron, heh heh heh | 15:28 |
| JackYu | oh... | 15:29 |
| happyaron | JackYu: 是找jr还是去-release找人呢？ | 15:29 |
| JackYu | 我记得是说从周二才开始block的。 | 15:30 |
| happyaron | 顺带着 youker-assistant的FFe还木有啊 | 15:30 |
| happyaron | JackYu: colin waston的邮件说提前到欧洲时间的周一 | 15:30 |
| JackYu | happyaron, 好吧。。。 | 15:31 |
| smartboyhw | Who said that it was Tuesday!? | 15:31 |
| JackYu | happyaron, Laney说他会去处理FFe，但一直没做 | 15:31 |
| JackYu | 我记得有一次邮件中所了 | 15:32 |
| JackYu | 说了 | 15:32 |
| happyaron | 我一直以为26号捏。 | 15:32 |
| JackYu | 26号是Beta2发布 | 15:32 |
| happyaron | 嗯 | 15:33 |
| happyaron | 传的时间差几个小时 | 15:33 |
| happyaron | 悲剧。 | 15:33 |
| JackYu | happyaron, 我找cjwatson去unlock | 15:34 |
| happyaron | 嗯 unblock | 15:34 |
| JackYu | happyaron, cjwatson嫌changelog不够详细。。。 | 15:58 |
| happyaron | JackYu: 他要再upload一版？还是说给他bzr log就行 | 16:00 |
| happyaron | JackYu: 一般有bzr log应该就可以，但是log里的中文他是看不懂了…… | 16:00 |
| JackYu | 我的直觉是再upload一次。 | 16:01 |
| happyaron | 那样没有什么意义啊。 | 16:01 |
| JackYu | happyaron, 主要是这次改了不少东西，但写得不够明确。 | 16:01 |
| happyaron | JackYu: 他应该可以接受一份详细的changelog，他应该是需要看到到底改了什么。 | 16:02 |
| happyaron | JackYu: 所以做个清单用英语说一下bzr上每个commit都做了什么可能就成。 | 16:02 |
| JackYu | 恩，是的，不过这个清单也要更新上去吧？ | 16:03 |
| happyaron | 应该不用。 | 16:03 |
| happyaron | paste到个什么地方应该就行 | 16:03 |
| JackYu | 他可以通过“diff from 1.0.6 to 1.0.7 (4.4 KiB)”这个链接看到有哪些改变。 | 16:04 |
| JackYu | happyaron, 我觉得他的意思是需要更新changelog那个文件。 | 16:04 |
| JackYu | 你再上传一次麻烦不 | 16:04 |
| JackYu | happyaron, 你看到cjwatson的comments没？ | 16:12 |
| JackYu | 在-release | 16:12 |
| happyaron | JackYu: 我没在release | 16:12 |
| happyaron | 传不麻烦 | 16:13 |
| happyaron | 但是我还有15分钟断电…… | 16:13 |
| happyaron | 这周都要断电…… | 16:13 |
| JackYu | 我晕。。。 | 16:13 |
| JackYu | JackYu: Also, disabling apport and whoopsie entirely? *Really*? | 16:13 |
| JackYu | JackYu: And there's a misspelling, "UbuntyKylin" | 16:13 |
| JackYu | JackYu: Do you know if it's intentional that depends.txt was entirely removed? | 16:13 |
| JackYu | n> JackYu: And putting random stuff in /etc/environment is not really the best plan - that will be hard to upgrade later | 16:14 |
| happyaron | 嗯。 | 16:14 |
| JackYu | JackYu: I'm sorry, I'm not at all happy with this upload and don't really want to unblock it while I have the choice. The random Upstart overrides with no explanation are the worst (I see it also disables avahi-daemon and modemmanager), but really, all of the stuff I just mentioned should be addressed | 16:14 |
| JackYu | JackYu: depends.txt> So you don't want e.g. unity-china-music-scope any more? | 16:14 |
| JackYu | cjwatson, we use recommends.txt instead of depends.txt, since if using depends.txt, removing one package will lead to the fail of default-settings. | 16:14 |
| JackYu | JackYu: Ah, right. Mentioning that the removed dependencies were duplicated as Recommends is the sort of thing that should have been mentioned in the changelog. | 16:14 |
| happyaron | 嗯。 | 16:14 |
| JackYu | JackYu: I notice that gnome-tweak-tool and chromium-browser are not in recommends.txt, though. | 16:15 |
| JackYu | cjwatson, yes. we don't want to include these two packages. | 16:15 |
| happyaron | 其实他这意思，应该是要改很多东西。 | 16:15 |
| JackYu | JackYu: OK. Again, changelog :-) | 16:15 |
| JackYu | JackYu: It's not just for me, it's for your users too | 16:15 |
| JackYu | 是的 | 16:15 |
| happyaron | 那就改吧，我来电了就动手干。 | 16:15 |
| JackYu | 他是想我们把为什么要这么做都写出来。 | 16:15 |
| happyaron | to be rude but honest， 有很多变化应该就是进不去。 | 16:16 |
| JackYu | 好的，那辛苦你了。今天还来得及不？ | 16:16 |
| happyaron | 应该没戏了……十几分钟应该搞不定。 | 16:16 |
| happyaron | upstart/apport这类的override，我觉得他就接受不了。 | 16:17 |
| JackYu | 呵呵，是的。Beta1之后不应该有很大变化。 | 16:17 |
| happyaron | 我觉得不是时间问题，而是“信仰”问题了 | 16:17 |
| happyaron | apport等被override掉的那些东西，基本都是他和几个人搞出来的，然后你都给关了他能乐意么…… | 16:18 |
| JackYu | 是的。。。 | 16:18 |
| JackYu | 不过我们作为flavor，有自己的选择权嘛。。。 | 16:18 |
| JackYu | 否则那就是Ubuntu了 | 16:19 |
| happyaron | 他可能觉得目前这个flavor还年轻，upstart这种东西就不要去碰了。。。 | 16:19 |
| happyaron | 我说不清楚他完全的想法，但是应该是对这里面的系统foundation的定制他都比较有意见。 | 16:20 |
| happyaron | steve可能也有，但是恐怕不好意思直接说，只能通过colin说了吧。 （他们就是foundation team） | 16:20 |
| JackYu | happyaron, 额 ，我能理解。 | 16:20 |
| happyaron | 我们现在就只能是想法去来把事情尽量推了。 | 16:21 |
| happyaron | 我也认可那些东西里有一些的体验确实不好。 | 16:22 |
| JackYu | 那你觉得咋整呢？怎么推。。。 | 16:22 |
| happyaron | 比如/儿童从/ | 16:22 |
| happyaron | 比如/etc/envronment的修改只能revert了 | 16:22 |
| happyaron | 额。马上断电，明天说…… | 16:22 |
| JackYu | 好的，明天还来得及不？ | 16:23 |
| happyaron | 应该行 | 16:24 |
| JackYu | 好的:) | 16:24 |
| JackYu | 这次有些修改就revert回去吧。 | 16:24 |
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