[01:11] http://paste.openstack.org/show/uExwgidhc045zVPJ7fS6/ more or less. [07:29] brainwash: could you re-pastebin your patch for the greeter's language menu? or submit it as a real patch, as you prefer [07:29] it's lost in my backlog somewhere [09:47] brainwash: could you re-pastebin your patch for the greeter's language menu? or submit it as a real patch, as you prefer [09:51] ochosi: http://lpaste.net/93287 [09:53] thanks, that patch makes sense :) [09:54] well, no magical stuff involved :D [09:54] yeah (which is good! :)) === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 [10:24] the xfce4-session package does not recommend "consolekit" anymore due to transition to systemd/logind, but it should recommend "systemd-shim" instead from now on (it does not yet). any thoughts? [10:24] bug 1221809 [10:24] bug 1221809 in xfce4-session (Ubuntu) "systemd-shim removal causes restart to logout" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1221809 [11:13] for everyone who's interested in the stupid abiword ruler issue we used to have, look here: http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13301 [11:13] bugzilla.abisource.com bug 13301 in Front End - GTK "AbiWord 2.9.2 Ruler widget looks bad in GTK3" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [11:22] btw, it only seems to affect greybird, bluebird and orion currently (albatross, numix, adwaita seem fine) [11:24] ochosi, we should pick that up [11:24] bbl [12:12] is the update notifier indicator not showing up at all? [12:14] I don't see it - update mangler has started showing up again recently though [12:19] strange [12:21] besides, I installed htop using the software center, it actually did install htop.. and crashed in the end [12:21] typical USC story I guess :) [13:03] only had time to do one testcase this morning. will do more tonight. [13:04] jjfrv8, mhm, no problem :) [13:07] thanks jjfrv8 [13:07] (and yeah, thanks, you are already part of the minority ;)) [13:09] hey GridCube [13:09] GridCube, you able to run some testing this cycle? [13:09] hey mister knome [13:09] i might try [13:09] beta 2 testing is up until thursday [13:09] then we need even more testing for RC [13:10] ok thats the same zsynck all the way right? [13:11] the images shouldn't need zsync before thurday, they are freezed [13:11] but yes, after that, zsyncing will eventually get you the RC images [13:12] ok so ill fetch todays image and keep them updated [13:12] GridCube, thanks, every test is much appreciated [13:12] :) will try to do them [13:13] cool - I'd hate to have to set forestpiskie on you :) [13:14] there is only a xubuntu amd64 iso to download [13:14] is that correct? [13:14] atm the 32bit is not there - there's a problem at ubuntu somewhere [13:14] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/303/builds [13:14] ok [13:15] the build machine has gone offline, so yes, you'll have to wait for the 32-bit images [13:16] ok, im fetching this iso for now :) this machine supports making 64bits vms :D [13:16] thats what im running at the moment [13:21] bluesabre, you gonna run tests? :) [13:22] when I get home tonight, sure! [13:22] great [13:23] hello guys, I have been running dailys updates and there are errors with USC which is crashed sometimes after installing software [13:23] olbi, have you filed a bug? [13:24] not yet, I need to check this with todays Beta, maybe it was fixed :) [13:24] no idea about that, but sure [13:24] if you do a clean install, report the installation to the iso tracker, please [13:24] (with appropriate bugs found) [13:24] yes, of course [13:25] I've not seen it today - but I only tried installing and removing one thing [13:25] how I can change avatar at logon screen? [13:25] olbi, cp yourimage.jpg ~/.face [13:25] ok :) [13:26] yup, gotta get mugshot into 14.04 [13:26] olbi, we'll have an application for that in T, if everything goes as expected [13:26] :) [13:26] ^ that [13:27] cool :D [13:28] brb [13:28] are we planning to add Whisker Menu and Xfce Theme Manager as plugins in next release? [13:29] theme manager is already included [13:29] isn't it? [13:29] yes, gtk-theme-config is in the seed [13:29] olbi, if you make a wikipage to promote them i might tag with you on the whisker menu :D [13:29] olbi, cp yourimage.jpg ~/.face - doesn't work here [13:29] is there some specific size of image needed? [13:30] 96x96 [13:30] I think [13:30] or, get mugshot P: [13:31] elfy, that should though. ask for details from bluesabre (unless you don't have yourimage.jpg and are just trolling :P) [13:31] I'd not troll in here :) [13:31] heh [13:32] * elfy should check out mugshot really [13:32] probably [13:33] it allows you to control much more than just the profile image [13:34] I'll grab it when I see bluesabre next time [13:34] he is like here right now P: [13:35] thought he said he was off somewhere [13:40] mugshot details and ppa info: http://www.smdavis.us/2013/07/27/mugshot-quick-and-easy-user-config/ [13:40] elfy: it did work for me, random 64x64 png file [13:42] bluesabre: daily or stable? if you'd rather I installed the daily so I can test things if you want I'm happy to [13:43] elfy, your choice, not much dev happening on it at the moment, so they are probably the same right now [13:43] ok - well I'll go for the daily one and if you want anything tested by 'just this guy' you can shout :) [13:44] sure thing, thanks! [13:44] :) [13:46] bluesabre: no menu entry for it? [13:46] its in your settings manager [13:46] "About Me" [13:46] aaah [13:46] went there and looked for mugshot :) [13:46] :D [13:47] a little misleading, but hey what can I do ;) [13:47] bluesabre, change it? :P [13:47] no way! [13:47] :D [13:48] :P [13:48] yeah, i just pointed you "can" do that... [13:48] I assume you know that help fails [13:48] news to me [13:49] ok The URI ‘ghelp:mugshot’ does not point to a valid page. [13:49] strange [13:49] I'll have a look at the package tonight [13:49] sorry :( [13:49] lol [13:49] elfy, thanks [13:49] elfy, better notice that now than when 14.04 is out... [13:49] yup, thanks elfy [13:50] * elfy thanks the shaky hand that missed the enormous icon button ... [13:50] :D [13:52] bluesabre, want to create a debdiff for micahg for the gmb stuff? [13:52] I thought he already mostly had one together? [13:53] i didn't think anything :) [13:53] good idea [13:53] yeah, I'll see about throwing one together tonight [13:53] thanks [13:53] I'll join in on that plan [13:54] the not thinking one - just in case you get any ideas ... [13:54] we'll probably land that after B2, there's already only so much time to run that testing [13:57] yeah, if today is b2 freeze there's no way you'll see it for b2 :D [13:57] well there is but... [13:57] :D [13:57] there's always ways to get stuff in [13:58] didn't you say the isos get locked today? [13:58] sure... but don't you think there is a way to un(b)lock? :) [13:59] just not worth it. [13:59] its easier to imagine that there is not :) [13:59] but it's always possible [13:59] lol [13:59] well, a rebuild should be a press of a button for you too, since you are in xubuntu-release [13:59] oh yeah [14:00] keep up :) [14:00] * bluesabre has super cow powers [14:00] bluesabre: you want me to report that help thing as a bug so it doesn't get lost? [14:01] elfy, yeah if you don't mind [14:01] might also try logging out of your session and back in [14:01] not sure if yelp/ghelp need to do some sort of updating [14:01] ok - I'll do that first then [14:06] bluesabre: I'll report it [14:06] thanks elfy [14:07] bluesabre: shall I subscribe us to it? [14:07] please do that [14:07] yes please [14:09] https://bugs.launchpad.net/mugshot/+bug/1229205 [14:09] Ubuntu bug 1229205 in Mugshot "Help button results in Document not found" [Undecided,New] [14:29] it works on 13.04 [14:29] just tested it :) [15:09] off for now [15:24] i've got a weird glitch... a small square in the top left of the screen that sits above all windows except the panel [15:26] can you screenshot it? [15:27] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFLenkPPwXM [15:30] btw it is black on the left side because of the menu shadow [15:30] mmm yes [15:30] each time i open the menu it gets a little bit darker [15:30] i notice the glitch itself has a shadow [15:30] but it doesn't receive X input and especially xwininfo just passes through to the window behind [15:31] mmm [15:31] and xkill? [15:31] wont kill it? [15:32] it will kill whatever window is behind it [15:32] restarting the panel makes it go away [15:33] do you know how to try to repeat it? [15:33] no, i never notice it appearing [15:33] i just notice it's there [15:34] it has happened several times though [15:34] ali1234, :) try and see if you can figure a way to repeat it please [15:34] it is hard to tell when exactly it happens because when it's a region that isn't redrawing... so it has perfect camouflage [15:34] yes [15:34] i figure that much [15:35] figuring out what owns it would help i think [15:35] xfdesktop --reload doesn't make it go away [15:38] ah i think i know exactly what it is [15:39] yes [15:39] it's the notification area (not indicators, the old gnome "tray" stuff) [15:39] :D [15:39] it's a 20x20 glitch because that is what size the notification icons are [15:40] removing just the notification area from the panel made it go away [15:41] and it appears when some java program makes a notification icon [15:41] ali1234, please report a bug against it [15:41] try to disable the xfwm4's compositor [15:42] isn't this a well known bug? [15:42] is there some java program that makes a tray icon in the repos? [15:44] http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=8166 [15:45] ali1234, what xubuntu version are you using? [15:45] saucy [15:47] mmm i understand that in saucy there is a new plugin indicator applet for gtk3 indicators [15:47] yes there is [15:47] is the java application using this? [15:48] no [15:48] i see [15:48] well actually that code is not in saucy yet [15:48] but anyway, this is only with the legacy notification system aka system tray [15:48] yes, thats what i was thinking [15:49] the plugin is called "Notification Area" (but it has nothing to do with the pop up alert bubbles) [15:49] it's almost certainly a java bug anyway [15:50] like the one where accessing the clipboard from java leaks a copy of whatever is on the clipboard every single time [15:50] * GridCube doesnt know [15:50] java is complete rubbish :/ [15:50] so it's not related to xfwm4's compositor? [15:50] well it might only happen when compositing is switched on [15:51] but that's irrelevant - everything else that uses notification icons works fine [15:54] hmm i have an idea what it might be actually [17:56] is it a feature now that the current desktop background turns into the lightdm background? [17:57] i mean is that expected? [18:00] expected [18:01] GridCube: you seen the 32bit are there now [18:01] im doing the amd64 one [18:01] i am assuming the image is the same as earlier [18:01] GridCube: accountsservice is responsible for this behavior [18:02] ok :) is that i made an image with gimp, saved it as png and used it as background and then when i logged out it was there :P [18:13] yeah that's been a feature for a couple of releases for unity users at least [18:13] dunno if anything special was needed for xfce, probably not [18:15] Works in Rarin' [18:16] never noticed in raring [18:16] but then again i never use the login manager [18:17] had to install synaptic 'cos USC would not allow me to set up my proxy [18:17] proxies are the worst in xubuntu [18:23] besides the abiword and the sound indicator everything seems fine [18:23] reported [18:25] i use ssh and socks for proxying [18:25] thanks GridCube [18:26] no particular setup needed, you do need a ssh account somewhere of course [18:26] ali1234: You use polipo or the like as well? [18:26] you cant use USC out of the box in xubuntu if you have a proxy [18:26] no, i just type in the proxy settings directly to firefox [18:27] i find it rather bad that ubbiquity doesnt ask you for networking setting to set up things properly from there, i remember that using the alternate iso you could do so [18:27] Heh, sadly not everything I use will take a socks proxy. [18:27] i only use proxying to evade blocked services, such as my mobile provider blocking irc and various chat programs [18:27] and also i use it as a poor man's cloak [18:28] so in practice this means i only proxy pidgin, and sometimes firefox [18:29] libxfce4ui got tagged. [18:40] libxfce4ui got tagged? what does that mean? [18:40] someone ran up behind it and shouted "You're it" [18:41] :D [18:43] http://git.xfce.org/xfce/libxfce4ui/ means you don't have to roll from git head to get gtk3 indicators. [18:43] elfy, oi! in-flight collision :P [18:44] wut [18:44] elfy, we both replied to that last post on the ML [18:44] I be you said - that's one test ... [18:44] nah, two tests it is [18:44] and two replies ;) [18:44] yay [18:44] xpl and qa lead agreeing without knowing :p [18:45] heh [18:45] woot! [18:45] * elfy will have to work on that ... [18:45] Wow, better record it. [18:53] record? we aren't corded... [19:00] knome: if you're not corded does that mean you are cordless? [19:00] davmor2, yep. [19:00] davmor2, cordless, but aging analog device [19:00] there isn't even a vga port let alone hdmi outputs [19:01] haha [19:02] not sure you should be talking about me like that ... [19:02] :) [19:03] but you do have organic photsensive receptors that took like 1.000.000.000 years to develope [19:03] they're aging as well, not brand new anymore [19:10] all that time to develop and 50 years to ruin them ... [19:11] ;) [19:17] Bleh, was going to actually build xubuntu-core and see what it'd really pull in from a mini, but more effort than I'd want. :P [19:21] Unit193: I'll get the QA apprentice to do it ... [19:23] It's not hard, just :effort: :P [19:24] :) [19:25] knome: just realised there's no upgrade tests there for b2 - shall I add them - can't remember if it's likely to end up losing the exisiting b2 tests [19:26] nobody else has them enabled [19:37] elfy, that won't affect current tests since it's a different product [19:37] elfy, we could just run those with the RC [19:38] ok - I'll remember to set them [19:39] i'd imagine they're enabled for all flavors then, but it's always good to double-check [19:39] yep [19:39] i was about to say nice testing, but then i realized it's mostly you who did the tests [19:39] lol [19:40] I'm not makring them ready - going to see how many pitch up :) [19:40] is there a list of bugs which have to be fixed before final release? [19:41] brainwash, http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/group/topic-s-flavor-xubuntu.html [19:41] knome: thanks [19:42] what's lacking there is the abiword ruler theming fix, bug 1031137 [19:42] bug 1031137 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Abiword has strange black color" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031137 [19:44] knome: and how do we get the fix in ? [19:44] * elfy hasn't ever really followed a bug that's got a bug fixed elsewhere [19:45] that sort of makes less sense than it did in my head ... [19:46] according to ochosi it might be fixable by adjusting the affected shimmer-themes [19:46] not an easy task I guess [19:47] missed that then - last I saw/read he was saying he'd been there before with it [19:47] this one here on the other hand shouldn't be that hard to fix: bug 1227637 [19:47] bug 1227637 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "non existing key specified in override file" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1227637 [19:49] brainwash: it would be for me ;) [19:50] could it be added to the progress list? [19:50] the bug report I mean [19:57] brainwash, i talked with him earlier, but from the upstream bug i understood that the patch alone would fix most of the problems without touching themes [19:58] the latter isn't a very high-importance though? it doesn't really break anything, just throws a warning [19:59] yes, an annoying warning :) [19:59] sure, but still only a warning :) [19:59] setting as importance low [19:59] thanks [20:00] i'm guessing the first thing to do would be checking what happens if that override is removed - does that change the behavior [20:00] if not, then just remove it; if it does, how to apply that without throwing a warning [20:01] I removed it and the warning does not show up anymore, kinda expected, because the update-notifier dconf key does not exist anymore and therefore can't be altered [20:02] yep [20:02] bluesabre, ochosi: bug 1221426 [20:02] bug 1221426 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "incorrect mimetype in defaults.list" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1221426 [20:05] brainwash: Which I hope means they changed the default rather than removed the config option. Several other keys are removed as well. [20:05] ochosi, bug 1069813 [20:05] bug 1069813 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "Applications like gufw and gtkorphan doesn't appear in Xubuntu's menu" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1069813 [20:06] ochosi, fixed description, bug 1069813 [20:06] ah, the missing icon issue [20:07] there's also a duplicate somewhere [20:07] bug 1063512 [20:07] bug 1063512 in xfce4-settings (Ubuntu) "Does not display icon if desktop file extension is in icon path " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1063512 [20:07] I had booted the VM to compare the two com.ubuntu.update-notifier.gschema.xml files. [20:09] brainwash, marked as duplicate [20:10] I did not expect that this missing icon problem still exists [20:22] yay, parole has a purpose! [20:22] bluesabre, you too, maybe we should try to slip a bugfix in ;) [20:23] yup, will try to do that tonight [20:23] cheers [20:23] knome: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-notifier/0.138 [20:26] brainwash, oh right, that explains then. maybe add a comment and a link to that, and then we can mark the bug triaged [20:28] knome: done [20:29] cheers [20:29] our team is doing awesome work this cycle :D [20:29] bluesabre, bug 1227537 if you feel like it [20:29] bug 1227537 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "crashes with gsettings-desktop-schemas 3.10" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1227537 [20:29] bluesabre, i can wholeheartedly agree [20:30] knome, is that the right bug? [20:31] no [20:31] :D [20:31] bug 1227637 [20:31] bug 1227637 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "non existing key specified in override file" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1227637 [20:31] i would imagine it's just poking that one file and remove the key, then debdiff or whatever, and ramp it up the sponsor queue [20:32] yup [20:32] and if you have a patch in the bug, it's possible that dholbach picks it up [20:32] easy fix [20:32] ...and you got yet another sponsored upload [20:32] yup, good times :D [20:33] yep [20:33] better times when you don't need them any more! [20:33] indeed! [20:33] imagine; that bug could be fixed in the next 5 minutes if you had upload rights [20:33] WOOT! [20:33] :) [20:33] (less work too, no need for debdiffs, just go ahead and change the file contents and upload) [20:34] nice and painless [20:34] yep [23:11] ochosi: link me to the gmb bug? [23:53] Unit193, you around? [23:53] bluesabre: No. [23:53] darn [23:53] guess I'll try again later [23:53] :D [23:53] I'm a square. [23:54] no pi for you [23:55] :( [23:55] I'm trying to update the debian folder in x-d-s, not quite sure how to fix this [23:55] W: xubuntu-default-settings source: syntax-error-in-dep5-copyright line 16: Continuation line outside a paragraph. [23:56] in relation to this changelog file: http://dpaste.com/1393470/ [23:56] s/changelog/copyright [23:57] Yep, you need a period at 15, 20, and 24 [23:57] ah