[01:52] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Debian is about as unfrozen as it gets.
[05:30] <cortexA9> testing the daily of today
[05:30] <cortexA9> downloading right now
[05:31] <cortexA9> in live environment
[07:14] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:49] <jussi> hrrr
[07:49] <jussi> my saucy wont login...
[07:50]  * jussi tries the guest session
[07:50] <jussi> meh. logs into ubuntu just fine
[07:50] <jussi> wonder whats up...
[07:52] <lordievader> jussi: Had that yesterday too, updated and rebooted. Things worked fine again.
[07:52] <jussi> hrr, I guess Ill have to reboot (updated, but not rebooted)
[08:18] <cortexA9> all ok with the daily of today.
[08:35] <Riddell> cortexA9: can you mark your reports on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/303/builds for the beta?
[08:35] <cortexA9> yes Riddell
[08:36] <cortexA9> i did it
[08:37] <yofel> Riddell: didn't we have an installer icon in some obvious place in plasma-netbook live session in the past?
[08:38] <Riddell> yofel: mm that's a known but that I had hoped to get round to fixing but haven't yet
[08:39] <Riddell> cortexA9: lovely
[08:39] <cortexA9> Riddell: there are other isos about the nexus 7 ?
[08:40] <yofel> hm, images got respun I see
[08:40] <yofel> Riddell: wifi setup still doesn't work in dm-ubiquity
[08:41] <yofel> can we remove that before release?
[08:43] <cortexA9> oh this plasma-active-4-armv7hl-google-nexus7.tar.gz
[08:49] <Riddell> yofel: I want to check if ubuntu unity has the same issue then work out what to do
[08:50] <yofel> ack
[08:51] <Riddell> cortexA9: you can try that but note that plasma active generally doesn't work just now (individual bits work but not the whole setup) so the nexus will be even more broken
[08:54] <cortexA9> Riddell: did a package for multirom eheh testing right now
[08:59] <smartboyhw> Riddell, BTW why does dh still calls dh_pysupport instead of dh_python2 when the former one is deprecated? We still have to explicitly call --with python2......
[09:04] <yofel> file a bug against debhelper? ^^
[09:04] <yofel> we're like 3 months behind debian though, so checking there might be good too
[09:05] <yofel> though I wonder what the new default should be. --with python2,python3 ?
[09:12] <smartboyhw> yofel, dunno
[09:12] <smartboyhw> Ubuntu will want default = python3
[09:14] <smartboyhw> yofel, hmm, it is fixed in upstream
[09:14] <smartboyhw> Debian
[09:15] <Riddell> not something ubuntu wants to differ on from debian that
[09:15] <smartboyhw> Ouch, that's dh_python instead
[09:52] <smartboyhw> yofel, ah, I get it
[09:52] <smartboyhw> If compat = 9, dh_pysupport will simply not be run
[09:57] <apachelogger> good thing we concluded that compat has no reasonable impact :P
[09:58] <cortexA9> Riddell: i am in ssh on my nexus 7 :D
[09:58] <cortexA9> with the plasma active 4
[09:58] <cortexA9> hehe
[09:58] <cortexA9> it's good.
[09:58] <Riddell> cortexA9: err, wow, really?
[09:59] <Riddell> cortexA9: take a photo!
[09:59] <cortexA9> yea
[09:59] <cortexA9> lol
[09:59] <Riddell> does it just load up and plasma active is all running?
[09:59] <Riddell> cos that's not the case on the i386 image
[09:59] <cortexA9> no i have to do a package multirom
[09:59] <Riddell> cortexA9: what's one of those?
[09:59] <Riddell> hi vassie 
[10:00] <cortexA9> it's an application
[10:00] <vassie> Hello Riddell
[10:00] <cortexA9> for select
[10:00] <cortexA9> the roms
[10:00] <cortexA9> in the begin
[10:00] <cortexA9> hello wassie
[10:00] <cortexA9> *vassie
[10:00] <vassie> :) Hello
[10:00] <vassie> brb
[10:01] <cortexA9> Riddell: it's ok but i have a problem
[10:01] <cortexA9> ssh freeze
[10:01] <cortexA9> after some minutes
[10:03] <cortexA9> i think there is a protection
[10:03] <cortexA9> with the wifi network
[10:04]  * Riddell notices the image from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-active/daily-preinstalled/20130227/ is from february
[10:04] <Riddell> so that's running an older plasma active
[10:04] <Riddell> which explains it
[10:04] <cortexA9> oh Riddell
[10:05] <cortexA9> i have downloaded it from kde.org
[10:05] <cortexA9> the image 4.0
[10:05] <cortexA9> of today
[10:07] <Riddell> oh I see, not a kubuntu one, that makes more sense then
[10:08] <cortexA9> yes sorry Riddell
[10:08] <cortexA9> not the right channel to talk
[10:08] <cortexA9> hehe
[10:26] <Riddell> cortexA9: no that's fine, we need to look at kubuntu active and decide what to do with it
[10:26] <cortexA9> Riddell:  oh there is kubuntu active ?
[10:27] <smartboyhw> There is
[10:27] <cortexA9> good
[10:27] <Riddell> there is but for whatever reason it doesn't start up
[10:27] <Riddell> plasma-device starts ok when I run it on its own
[10:27] <Riddell> but the full session login doesn't work
[10:27] <Riddell> so that needs debugged
[10:27] <Riddell> volunteers welcome :)
[10:28] <cortexA9> sorry i am not a dev
[10:28] <cortexA9> hehe
[10:28] <Riddell> not yet :)
[10:33] <smartboyhw> No time, sorry, testing in ubuntu Studio (and found a bug, presumably)
[10:57] <vassie> i'm back
[10:57] <Riddell> it's... vassie!
[10:57] <Riddell> vassie: able to join in the beta candidates testing?
[10:57] <vassie> sure
[10:59] <vassie> quick question, is there anyway to fix this before 4.11.2? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/1225347
[11:00] <vassie> where to i get the beta from btw?
[11:03] <Riddell> vassie: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/303/builds
[11:03] <vassie> Riddell: Thanks
[11:04] <yofel> vassie: that bug is already fixed in 4.11.2
[11:04] <apachelogger> yofel: oh, there were problems with runtime ... you forgot to change the package to arch:any in your sed change, leading to broken path setup on amd64
[11:04] <apachelogger> all fixed now
[11:04] <yofel> ouch
[11:04] <vassie> yofel: I know, but 4.11.2 is not out yet
[11:04] <yofel> thanks
[11:05] <yofel> vassie: I thought we had fixed that...
[11:05] <vassie> yofel: nope, i cannot pin anything to my task bar
[11:06] <yofel> what release are you on?
[11:06] <apachelogger> also there's magic scripts setup... if one appends PROMOTE to the snapshot-daily ppa description it will get promoted automagically after <=30 minutes to snapshot-weekly, that along with the sync script is now in ~neon/project-neon5/syncer
[11:14] <vassie> yofel: raring
[11:15] <yofel> hm, I see, this was never backported :/
[11:15] <yofel> I'll do so later
[11:15] <vassie> sweet, thanks
[11:23] <shadeslayer> yofel: so I fixed virtuoso by passing add-missing to automake
[11:23] <shadeslayer> instead of linking it manually
[11:24] <shadeslayer> which seems like a better fix to me
[11:27] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1183030] package plasma-widgets-workspace 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: trying to ov... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1183030 (by Fila Kolodny)
[11:36] <yofel> ack
[12:03] <ScottK> apachelogger: It was standards version we concluded not to update, not compat.
[12:04] <apachelogger> ScottK: I was talking about one of the grilling questions that had to do with compat :P
[12:04] <ScottK> Oh.  OK.  
[12:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:35] <Riddell> hi BluesKaj, able to do any beta 2 candidate testing?
[12:36] <BluesKaj> yes Riddell I suppose 
[12:36] <Riddell> great
[12:39] <BluesKaj> I can do a clean install image ...have a couple of empty partitions for / and /home , if that's what's needed.
[12:43] <Riddell> yeah that would be great
[12:43] <BluesKaj> ok , got a url ?
[12:44] <BluesKaj> i see the beta1 site is "up"
[12:44] <Riddell> BluesKaj: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/303/builds
[12:44] <Riddell> this will be beta 2
[12:50] <BluesKaj> ok Riddell DLing 
[13:00] <shadeslayer> virtuoso fixed as well
[13:00]  * shadeslayer does some Beta 2 QA
[13:00] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: ta da http://ro.kubuntu.org/
[13:00] <Riddell> shadeslayer: awooga
[13:01] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what was up with it?
[13:01] <ovidiu-florin> yeeey
[13:01] <ovidiu-florin> I was just about to ask you
[13:01] <ovidiu-florin> :D
[13:01] <shadeslayer> Riddell: so automake 1.13 introduced this new file called a test-driver
[13:01] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: anything else needed or can we announce it?
[13:01] <cortexA9> Riddell
[13:01] <cortexA9> some new isos for today ?
[13:01] <shadeslayer> Riddell: which is not generated in the virtuoso tarball
[13:01] <BluesKaj> shadeslayer, well I usually turn nepomuk and akonadi off 
[13:01] <cortexA9> 24.1 ?
[13:01] <cortexA9> :P
[13:01] <cortexA9> yes me too
[13:02] <cortexA9> nepomuk always
[13:02] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/p02dc4496/
[13:02]  * vHanda should leave
[13:02] <shadeslayer> Riddell: we should sync virtuoso-opensource next cycle though
[13:02] <Riddell> cortexA9: yes we have new candidates today http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/303/builds
[13:02] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: a loco Mail List ?
[13:02] <shadeslayer> sync/merge , whatever is appropriate
[13:03] <shadeslayer> because Debian has multiarch'd virtuoso
[13:03] <Riddell> shadeslayer: lovely
[13:03] <shadeslayer> yofel says there will be some issues with soprano, so let's see
[13:03] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: I was going to announce on my blog and kubuntu.org
[13:03] <shadeslayer> vHanda: why? :(
[13:04] <cortexA9> Riddell: cool
[13:04] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: the announcement sounds great
[13:04] <vHanda> irc complaints are depressing
[13:04] <Riddell> nepomuk rocks!
[13:05] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I was asking for a mail list for Kubuntu-ro
[13:05] <cortexA9> hehe
[13:05] <vHanda> haha. Thank you Johnathan!
[13:05] <Riddell> alt-f2 search in files very useful
[13:05] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: or is that canonical sysadmins again?
[13:05] <vHanda> Riddell: try out milou?
[13:05] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: yes that'll be canonical sysadmin, and it may well be an idea to use any existing ubuntu-ro mailing list
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Riddell, I have no need for nepomuk , as a home user 
[13:06] <Riddell> milou will change that
[13:06] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: will do
[13:06] <Riddell> vHanda: it's on my todo
[13:07] <yofel> what's milou?
[13:07] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: thank you
[13:08] <yofel> bug 1229700 o.O
[13:08] <cortexA9> what akonadi do ?
[13:09] <shadeslayer> hmm
[13:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw, I am no longer in the future :(
[13:09] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, welcome to the cruel reality:)
[13:10] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: you are in the future however
[13:11] <Riddell> yofel: milou is shadeslayer's spotlight style desktop search applet
[13:11] <shadeslayer> mine?
[13:11] <shadeslayer> great
[13:11] <Riddell> um no
[13:11] <Riddell> yofel: milou is vHanda's spotlight style desktop search applet
[13:11] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, huh?
[13:11] <shadeslayer> vHanda can do all the work, and I take credit :P
[13:11] <smartboyhw> I'm always in the present:P
[13:11] <yofel> lol :)
[13:11] <Riddell> getting my catalonians confused
[13:12] <yofel> vHanda++
[13:12]  * vHanda is okay with that as long as shadeslayer's gets the blame as well
[13:12] <shadeslayer> no no, see that
[13:12] <shadeslayer> *see that's my evil plan
[13:12] <shadeslayer> take all the credit
[13:12] <shadeslayer> forward blame
[13:16] <shadeslayer> HDD's are so slow :(
[13:23] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: ping, over here :)
[13:23] <ovidiu-florin> oh... sorry
[13:23] <ovidiu-florin> wrong channel
[13:28] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no, now you are in the past
[13:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: as are you then?
[13:28] <apachelogger> no
[13:28] <apachelogger> I show my face before noon :P
[13:29] <shadeslayer> just because I'm not on IRC doesn't mean I'm not here :P
[13:29] <shadeslayer> here being the office
[13:29] <apachelogger> riiight :P
[13:31] <apachelogger> oh great now I forgot what branch I was in :@
[13:34] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: how do I say Kubuntu Romania in Romanian?
[13:34] <ovidiu-florin> what context?
[13:35] <smartboyhw> I think it's writing
[13:35] <smartboyhw> (Since I have a hunch that Riddell is writing a blog post)
[13:35] <ovidiu-florin> i get that
[13:36] <ovidiu-florin> but it could be: Kubuntu România or Comunitatea Kubuntu România
[13:36] <Riddell> just for the link on http://www.kubuntu.org/community for now
[13:36] <ovidiu-florin> Kubuntu România
[13:37] <BluesKaj> ok Riddell , here goes , just burned the beta 2 image , so wish me luck :)
[13:38] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: how's this? kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-românia
[13:38] <ovidiu-florin> we're planning on news and support
[13:39] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: updated and put on http://www.kubuntu.org/
[13:40] <ovidiu-florin> saw it
[13:40] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[13:41] <ovidiu-florin> I'm updating the wiki right now.. lot's of Ubuntu's there
[13:41] <soee> what is the date for saucy final release ?
[13:41]  * Riddell blogs http://blogs.kde.org/2013/09/24/kubuntu-rom%C3%A2nia
[13:41] <Riddell> soee: 1 month
[13:42] <soee> Riddell, ok so ill put it on my new laptop today :)
[13:42] <soee> and my old one will go to my parents, and ill install them kubuntu also :)
[14:14] <Riddell> smartboyhw: you been playing with tanglu?
[14:22] <davmor2> Riddell: I'm sorry tanglu?  that sounds like something you would use to stick essex girls together with
[14:23] <smartboyhw> Riddell, yes, so?
[14:23] <smartboyhw> davmor2, LOL
[14:24] <smartboyhw> Riddell, the libqinfinity update we mentioned before now finally surfaces: http://scummos.blogspot.com/2013/09/collaborative-text-editing-02-beta.html
[14:28] <Riddell> smartboyhw: rumbled, you updated kubuntu-meta using their version of deboostrap
[14:28] <smartboyhw> Riddell, ouch:(
[14:28] <Riddell> davmor2: I don't think I can comment since I've never liked the name kubuntu
[14:29] <davmor2> Riddell: hehe
[14:34] <shadeslayer> yofel: did you switch out workspace in Neon 4 to 4.11?
[14:35] <Riddell> ta da! https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-docs/13.10ubuntu1
[14:36] <smartboyhw> Riddell, \o/
[14:36] <Riddell> now who remembers what we used to do with kubuntu docs, we have a link on the desktop somewhere?
[14:36] <shadeslayer> apparently yes
[14:36] <smartboyhw> yes
[14:36] <Riddell> but where and when?
[14:37]  * shadeslayer would prefer a lite version of the docs on the ISO itself
[15:00] <BluesKaj> ok , running beta 2 here , no crashes yet , altho i haven't tried to setup kmail yet :)
[15:02] <Riddell> lovely
[15:02] <Riddell> remember to report on iso.qa.ubuntu.com
[15:03]  * shadeslayer is almost done with the 32 bit iso
[15:03] <BluesKaj> FF looks absolutely retro , but I haven't rebooted since I setup the themes and fonts etc 
[15:04] <Riddell> kubuntu netbook live link to ubiquity was done by casper script scripts/casper-bottom/37kubuntu_netbook_installer_link
[15:04] <BluesKaj> ok reboot 
[15:04] <Riddell> but I removed that in 2010 and replaced with a patch in kdebase-workspace
[15:07] <ovidiu-florin> Can we get a trello board on kubuntu Romania?
[15:07] <ovidiu-florin> or how does this work?
[15:08] <ovidiu-florin> Should I make a new Organization?
[15:09] <Riddell> hum I'm not sure
[15:09] <Riddell> I think we can just make a board under kubuntu if you want
[15:11] <ovidiu-florin> which ever you think it's best
[15:11] <ovidiu-florin> I would like to keep the Romanian comunity in close contact with the official one
[15:13] <ovidiu-florin> can we get a board under kubuntu?
[15:13] <ovidiu-florin> no, wait
[15:14] <ovidiu-florin> You only allow members to write in it right?
[15:14] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: yes, although we can add anyone as a member
[15:15] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: go wild https://trello.com/b/OxkEQ8dS/kubuntu-romania
[15:16] <ovidiu-florin> aaaa, so there's members by board not by organisation
[15:16] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[15:17] <ovidiu-florin> Can you make it publicly readable?
[15:18] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: done
[15:18] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[15:18] <Riddell> hmm kubuntu_netbook_favourites.diff in kde-workspace should add the link
[15:23] <shadeslayer> oh my
[15:24] <shadeslayer> Riddell: OEM is kaput
[15:24] <Riddell> hmm
[15:24] <Riddell> shadeslayer: that'll be the same wifi issue as on standalone install
[15:24] <Riddell> shadeslayer: the question is does ubuntu have it?
[15:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/p29dcb15f
[15:25] <shadeslayer> er
[15:26] <shadeslayer> http://i.imgur.com/QBriqe6.png
[15:26] <shadeslayer> looks like a NM issue
[15:27] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yeah known issue
[15:27] <Riddell> shadeslayer: agateau says it affects ubuntu too
[15:27] <shadeslayer> bug number?
[15:27] <shadeslayer> okie
[15:27] <Riddell> but I think that needs confirmed
[15:27] <Riddell> bug 1220193
[15:27] <shadeslayer> thx
[15:28] <shadeslayer> 32 bit all done then
[15:29]  * shadeslayer goes off to do KDE hacking
[16:18] <yofel> shadeslayer: workspace is 4.11 yeah
[16:19] <shadeslayer> okay
[18:01] <ovidiu-florin> what does flavor mean? in the fontext of ubuntu flavors?
[18:01] <ovidiu-florin> context*
[18:04] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin:  mostly differnt desktops like kde , xfce etc
[18:05] <ovidiu-florin> I know what it is
[18:05] <BluesKaj> well , you asked :)
[18:05] <ovidiu-florin> but what I mean it what does flavor mean? I mean what's the connection between Kubuntu and Ubuntu?
[18:06] <ovidiu-florin> besides that Kubuntu is based on Ubuntu
[18:09] <BluesKaj> kubuntu is a flavour of ubuntu, ubuntu being the core 
[18:11] <ovidiu-florin> I'm asking this becouse someone from Ubuntu Romania started to rebuke me becouse I did not announce them that I'm working on the Kubuntu website.
[18:11] <ovidiu-florin> Kubuntu Romania website, I mean
[18:11] <ovidiu-florin> I haven't answered yet
[18:12] <BluesKaj> that depends on what his ubuntu definition is then 
[18:12] <ovidiu-florin> should I have done that?
[18:12] <BluesKaj> is it exclusive or inclusive of the different ubuntu flavouirs
[18:13] <ovidiu-florin> I thougnt Kubuntu is a different distribution, isn't it?
[18:14] <BluesKaj> seems his defintion is ubuntu only , gtk/unity/gnome/gnome shell, and that's all , no kde xfce or other desktop environments 
[18:15] <ovidiu-florin> Can someone please help me sort this out? what should I do?
[18:15] <BluesKaj> yes it's a distro unto itself , they all are but they are still defined as flavours 
[18:16] <BluesKaj> maybe you should consult with the person who tried to rebuke you 
[18:17] <BluesKaj> ask him what's allowed 
[18:17] <BluesKaj> if he's administering the site
[18:18] <ovidiu-florin> He's the contact person for Ubuntu Romania
[18:18] <ovidiu-florin> does this have anything to do with what does the Kubuntu comunity do?
[18:21] <BluesKaj> perhaps he should be reminded or informed what ubuntu flavours really are and find out what's allowed , the if not allowed then consider setting up a kubuntu site with help or advice from the other kubuntu communities in other countries 
[18:22] <BluesKaj> after it does look like ubuntu and kubuntu are going in different directions 
[18:22] <BluesKaj> after all
[18:24] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: the Kubuntu Romania site is set up here http://ro.kubuntu.org/ and has nothing to do with the http://ubuntu.ro site
[18:27] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: any opinions?
[18:28] <lordievader> Looks very Ubuntu targeted, so why should he object.
[19:11] <ScottK> I just replied on the list to the above question.
[19:11] <ScottK> ovidiu-florin: See my reply on the Kubuntu ML.  Does that help?
[19:12] <BluesKaj> well ,so far so good with beta 2 , I've set it up to my preferences , so I've rid the OS of kmail, kontact, ktorrent, network manager , modemmanager and added vlc , konversation and tixati 
[19:13] <ovidiu-florin> thank you ScottK
[19:15] <ovidiu-florin> I agree that talking with them might help. But I don't feel that I did something wrong by not letting them know that I'm working on this
[19:16] <ovidiu-florin> I find their reaction rather upsetting
[19:17] <ScottK> I agree.
[19:17] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[19:18] <ScottK> They have no right to control what you are doing, on the other hand, improving communication is a good thing.
[19:19] <ScottK> You might ask them to add a link to the Kubuntu site from theirs.
[19:19] <ovidiu-florin> :))
[19:19] <ovidiu-florin> good joke
[19:19] <ScottK> No.  Seriously.  They should do it.
[19:19] <ovidiu-florin> not that I wouldn't
[19:19] <ovidiu-florin> but will they?
[19:20] <ScottK> They certainly won't if you don't ask.
[19:20] <ovidiu-florin> I'll write them an email
[19:21] <ScottK> Be nicer than you feel like being.
[19:21] <ScottK> (I confess this would be a challenge for me)
[19:23] <ovidiu-florin> My first reaction was: I'll send them this: Kubuntu != Ubuntu
[19:23] <ovidiu-florin> But I thought I'll ask you guys first
[19:24] <ScottK> Part of the problem is the work Ubuntu is heavily overloaded.
[19:24] <ScottK> It refers to the project, the Linux distribution, and a desktop flavor of that project.
[19:28] <ovidiu-florin> Why isn't Kubuntu completly separating itself from Canonical and Ubuntu? I mean, no strings attached?
[19:28] <ovidiu-florin> this is something I don't understand?
[19:28] <ovidiu-florin> will this happen when wayland comes?
[19:28] <ovidiu-florin> or?
[19:31] <soee> lates daily build - saucy
[19:31] <soee> during installation when i want to connect to wifi installer crashes :)
[19:33] <yofel> soee: bug 1220193 - either go through the live session or use a wire
[19:34] <soee> yofel, ill just skip it
[19:34] <ovidiu-florin> that installer crashes awfly a lot. 
[19:35] <ovidiu-florin> last week it crashe don me when I clicked next on the User info page
[19:38] <soee> :P
[19:39] <soee> i skipped wifi part and its almost finished
[19:41] <ovidiu-florin> Kubuntu Romania is now on Distrowatch
[19:41] <ovidiu-florin> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=kubuntu
[19:41] <ovidiu-florin> wohooooo
[19:41] <ovidiu-florin> who do we have to thank for this?
[19:48] <soee> uhm only english language is available ?
[19:49] <yofel> huh?
[19:49] <soee> in Available languages i see only British  English :M
[19:51] <soee> Additional drivers fails to start :)
[19:52] <yofel> oh drat, there was that jockey issue
[19:52] <yofel> lordievader: didn't you try to fix that? how far did you get?
[19:52] <yofel> soee: available languages in system settings?
[19:52] <soee> yofel, yes
[19:52] <yofel> hm, refresh you package cache, should  work then (I think)
[19:53] <yofel> shadeslayer: so your cache generation work ended nowhere? ^^
[19:53] <BluesKaj> jockey on beta2 needs a workaround , installing the additional drivers doesn't launch the installer 
[19:54] <soee> is it possible to install propriety drivers somehow ?
[19:55] <BluesKaj> basically inert, so i ninstalled the nvidia-319-updates and installed nvidia-319 in the terminal
[19:55] <BluesKaj> installed 
[19:56] <soee> yofel, apt-get update and i have languages, but its strange it didnt use PL as i set it in installer
[19:56] <yofel> manually installing by hand certainly works (possibly using the ubuntu app would work too)
[19:57] <yofel> soee: didn't you install without network? I don't think we have pl translations on the image
[19:57] <BluesKaj> yofel:  installed the updates with muon
[20:08] <ovidiu-florin> the LoCo link from http://www.kubuntu.org/community/contribute is not pointing to kubuntu.org/comunity at the Local Language Support page. It's pointing to the Ubuntu LoCo list. shouldn't this be changed?
[20:10] <soee> BluesKaj, so whats the step do install nvidia drivers ?
[20:12] <BluesKaj> soee:  install the nvidia-319-updates in muon first then install nvidia-319 in the terminal..that method worked for me on the beta1 and beta 2
[20:12] <soee> BluesKaj, ok ill try
[20:13] <soee> btw Kubuntu looks lovely on my new laptop :D <3
[20:16] <BluesKaj> that's great soee :)
[20:16] <ovidiu-florin> How can I upload images to the Kubuntu wiki?
[20:16] <soee> BluesKaj, what about nvidia-319 (binary Xorg drivers) ?
[20:17] <BluesKaj> from nvidia's site ?
[20:17] <soee> nope, from muon
[20:17] <soee> or only 319-updates 
[20:18] <BluesKaj> oh , i see , yeah why not they should work if available 
[20:19] <BluesKaj> I didn't bother looking for them on beta2 because they wren't avialble in muon on beta 1
[20:19] <soee> ;]
[20:19] <BluesKaj> guess i shouldn't assume 
[21:05] <ScottK> ovidiu-florin: Kubuntu and Ubuntu and all the other flavors are all co-developed/released out of the same package archive.  If you separated it, it wouldn't be Kubuntu anymore.
[21:11] <shadeslayer> yofel: not quite
[21:11] <shadeslayer> yofel: we should populate xapian index
[21:11] <shadeslayer> but generating the kde cache is useless since we don't have a way to generate the plasma theme cache
[21:11] <shadeslayer> which forms a big chunk of the cache
[21:12] <shadeslayer> ( space-taken-on-disk wise )
[21:19] <soee> my o my it is impossible to install nvidia 319 on latest saucy
[21:22] <yofel> soee: hm, not really, I'm running it after all
[21:22] <yofel> just installing nvidia-319 doesn't work
[21:22] <soee> for me kbuntu freezes when showing logo
[21:22] <yofel> @_@
[21:22] <soee> yofel, what else then
[21:23] <yofel> er, that's missing a '?' at the end
[21:23] <soee> ?
[21:23] <yofel> why would it freeze though...
[21:23] <soee> no idea, it dies when this glowing logo shows up
[21:27] <soee> i think ill back to Raring
[22:41] <Riddell> KTp 0.7 beta1 is out.
[22:41] <Riddell> anyone want to package for a PPA?