| johnjohn101 | 3 weeks 3 days. i can't wait | 00:53 |
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| snadge | for what? | 00:55 |
| johnjohn101 | release of 13.10 and hopefully ubuntu on my nexus 7 | 00:55 |
| snadge | oh im already running 13.10 | 00:58 |
| snadge | but you mean.. from a getting excited perspective that its actually released? :p | 00:58 |
| snadge | theres at least one bug that needs to be fixed | 00:59 |
| johnjohn101 | bug for which? desktop or tablet? | 01:00 |
| snadge | desktop | 01:10 |
| snadge | its not a show stopper because nobody uses gnome fallback (no effects) | 01:10 |
| snadge | clearly ;) | 01:10 |
| johnjohn101 | i didn't even know that existed, lol. I am using it on a vmware machine at work and it's pretty good. | 01:14 |
| SuperLag | Is there any known issue that would cause $LAUNCHER_ICON to not retain its position? | 05:55 |
| snadge | so where do i start looking for this ctrl-alt-t gnome fallback session bug ? | 08:55 |
| snadge | figuring out which change broke it is half the fun | 08:56 |
| Smedles | hi all - annoying change in recent days to Unity - clicking the icon of an already running app, makes that app active, but does not change the virtual desktop like it used to | 09:23 |
| Smedles | any way to change this behaviour? | 09:23 |
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| Smedles | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1229540 describes my issue | 09:44 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1229540 in unity (Ubuntu) "[regression] Clicking launcher icon does not switch to application with multiple workspaces" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 09:44 |
| boneslash | Hi guys is here anybody to help me with some delicius problem? :)) | 12:24 |
| boneslash | *delicious | 12:24 |
| Dark_light | How are scopes in 13.10? last time I checked there was no way to disable them selectively, I liked some but don't care/want amazon ads when I'm searching for something | 12:26 |
| boneslash | It was bad idea to install Ubuntu 13.10 still errors :D | 12:27 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:35 |
| boneslash | HOYAAHAAHAHAHA MAN | 12:39 |
| BluesKaj | boneslash, ?? | 12:42 |
| boneslash | wassup man I am just saying hallo in an original way :D | 12:42 |
| BluesKaj | well, that's original alright , boneslash :) | 12:43 |
| boneslash | Hey man are you on of the "helpers" or one of the "askers" do you know what I mean? :) | 12:43 |
| boneslash | *one | 12:44 |
| boneslash | BluesKaj | 12:45 |
| BluesKaj | boneslash, got a question , just ask ,if we can help we will | 12:47 |
| boneslash | alright Is there any possibility of installing other programs similar to Wine? | 12:48 |
| boneslash | I have pretty big lags in every game, It is pretty annyoing I tried to connect myself to other wifi sites but It didnt help me :( | 12:49 |
| boneslash | I mean in multiplayer of course | 12:49 |
| BluesKaj | steam games ? | 12:49 |
| boneslash | well not really :D | 12:50 |
| boneslash | Zdaemon - for running Doom 1, Doom2, hexen, Heretic etc.. | 12:50 |
| boneslash | oh and I had also this problem in Ubuntu 13.04 so I tried to upgrade it to 13.10 but It doesnt help :( | 12:51 |
| BluesKaj | dunno much about games , boneslash , doubr running them in Windoiwsw VB environment would make them much faster | 12:52 |
| BluesKaj | doubt | 12:52 |
| boneslash | Ok thanks for help I hope It will help me | 12:52 |
| BluesKaj | what will help you ? I don't think virtuals will help | 12:53 |
| boneslash | I'll see | 12:53 |
| boneslash | oh and I didnt say the whole story I am running it on Acer Aspire one - Netbook | 12:54 |
| BluesKaj | which ubuntu are you running ? | 12:54 |
| boneslash | but I dont use Unity - using Xfce :) | 12:54 |
| boneslash | 13.10 | 12:54 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 12:54 |
| boneslash | there are everyday updates for it | 12:54 |
| boneslash | beta version of course | 12:54 |
| BluesKaj | right | 12:55 |
| boneslash | I had OS windows on this netbook | 12:57 |
| boneslash | but now Ubuntu I am newbie - trying new OS :) | 12:58 |
| BluesKaj | boneslash, being a new user it's usually best to run a stable OS like 13.04 | 13:03 |
| boneslash | no problem I was experimentator always :D | 13:03 |
| boneslash | same with my mobile phone - but that is out of the topic :D | 13:04 |
| SuperLag | Nice. I didn't know about the Ctrl-Alt-t thing. | 14:28 |
| taneli | after dist-upgrade and reboot, i get only grub prompt | 15:32 |
| taneli | giving linux /vmlinuz and initrd /initrd.img it dies of kernel panic | 15:32 |
| taneli | unable to mount root fs | 15:32 |
| taneli | is this to be expected? | 15:32 |
| taneli | upgraded pretty much every day, rebooted every couple of weeks or so | 15:34 |
| taneli | was xfs support dropped? | 15:37 |
| taneli | xfs seems to be there in /lib/modules ... but it only tries ext3 ext4 vfat fuseblk | 15:54 |
| taneli | do i have to provide some new init= parameter to make it boot? | 16:09 |
| taneli | aha, had to provide root=/dev/sda1, now i get also "VFS: Cannot open root deice "sda1" or unknown-block(0,0): error -6" | 16:21 |
| taneli | any ideas what that might be? | 16:21 |
| MoPac | Hi all. I'm getting a "could not calculate upgrade" error when trying to upgrade in place, and I'm wondering if there is a common reason for that and/or a way to access details of the error | 16:30 |
| BluesKaj | MoPac: what command are you using ? | 16:39 |
| MoPac | update-manager -d | 16:41 |
| MoPac | Sorry, BluesKaj: update-manager -d , following the gui | 16:41 |
| BluesKaj | MoPac: so you're upgrading to 13.10 ? | 16:43 |
| MoPac | BluesKaj: Right | 16:43 |
| BluesKaj | what about sudo do-release-upgrade -d | 16:48 |
| BluesKaj | MoPac: ^ | 16:48 |
| MoPac | BluesKaj: I could try that; is there any practical difference in what that does? | 16:49 |
| BluesKaj | no gui , unles you have a setting that prevents release upgrades | 16:50 |
| MoPac | BluesKaj: Don't mind a lack of GUI; just want to make sure that doing it that way isn't me working around something that I shouldn't work around because update-manager has seen that something is going to break | 16:52 |
| BluesKaj | MoPac: the package managers and apt all use the dpkg system to install /upgrade , if there's a problem dpkg will detect it | 16:55 |
| MoPac | awesome; thanks | 16:55 |
| johnjohn101 | i know of no setting that prevents the update of releases, is there one? | 16:56 |
| BluesKaj | johnjohn101: just the LTS only upgrade | 16:59 |
| BluesKaj | only one that comes to mind , but I don't know for sure | 17:00 |
| johnjohn101 | it's ok. just curious. | 17:00 |
| johnjohn101 | hard to believe it's almost october and we're 3 weeks away. will 13.10 only have nine months of support? | 17:02 |
| MoPac | BluesKaj: Bah, do-release-upgrade also couldn't calculate but didn't give more details. Is there a way to run it verbose? | 17:03 |
| BluesKaj | ok, make sure you've updated, upgraded and distupgraded before trying to release upgrade , MoPac | 17:04 |
| MoPac | so it's safe to do dist-upgrade before release-upgrade? | 17:05 |
| BluesKaj | yes | 17:05 |
| BluesKaj | it also removes unecessary packages and dependenies etc | 17:06 |
| BluesKaj | MoPac: also run autoremove and autoclean | 17:08 |
| BluesKaj | I have to reboot , testing beta 2 atm | 17:18 |
| ubuntu76 | has anyone came across a glitch on 13.10 beta 1 when renaming a file it blanks out | 17:25 |
| ubuntu76 | i was trying to report it but there is no option | 17:26 |
| TJ- | what blanks out? a GUI application's window ? | 17:27 |
| MoPac | BluesKaj: Sorry to keep bothering. Got the same result - unable to calculate - after all the preparatory steps | 17:28 |
| MoPac | BluesKaj: is there a way to get a verbose log for do-release-upgrade -d? | 17:30 |
| BluesKaj | look in /var/log/syslog | 17:30 |
| BluesKaj | did you reboot after running those clean commands etc , MoPac | 17:32 |
| MoPac | BluesKaj: I didn't although there wasn't really much for them to do | 17:32 |
| MoPac | I'll give that a try | 17:32 |
| BluesKaj | nop have tyou checked your partitions with gparted ? | 17:32 |
| BluesKaj | err MoPac^ | 17:33 |
| ubuntu76 | @Tj sorry i was called away the renaming of a folder the name just dissapears until you hit enter and you can't see what your typing | 17:58 |
| ubuntu76 | also will we be able to upgrade to final beta when it comes out or do we have to do a clean install | 17:59 |
| BluesKaj | ubuntu76: yes and no , but a clean install with data backup is always best | 18:00 |
| Anonynimity | I am running ubuntu 13.10. I have some lag issues with gaming. | 18:05 |
| Anonynimity | could anyone help me diagnose this? | 18:05 |
| MoPac | BluesKaj: unfortunately, still no joy on release upgrade after reboot. No obvious hints in the syslog - would it help to do a pastebin of the apt log? | 18:46 |
| BluesKaj | MoPac: have you checked you partitions , there could be something there that will give us a hint | 18:47 |
| BluesKaj | your partitions | 18:47 |
| MoPac | what information about them should I check? | 18:47 |
| BluesKaj | make sure they show a definite size for one | 18:49 |
| TJ- | MoPac: Have you looked at the logs in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ ? | 18:49 |
| MoPac | Yes; the apt.log in there shows a number of breaks and fixes, and the main log shows various debug entries and then failure/abort | 18:51 |
| MoPac | 2013-09-24 12:40:53,219 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.' | 18:51 |
| MoPac | the last thing in the apt.log is Broken gnome-control-center:amd64 Depends on libcheese-gtk23 [ amd64 ] < 3.6.2-0ubuntu3 -> 3.8.3-0ubuntu1 > ( libs ) (>= 3.4.0) | 18:52 |
| MoPac | Considering libcheese-gtk23:amd64 50 as a solution to gnome-control-center:amd64 32 | 18:52 |
| MoPac | Holding Back gnome-control-center:amd64 rather than change libcheese-gtk23:amd64 | 18:52 |
| MoPac | (sorry for the bad paste) | 18:52 |
| TJ- | MoPac: has the /etc/apt/sources.list already been edited by do-release-upgrade to refer to saucy, not raring? If not, will "apt-get -f install" fix it? It sounds like the kind of problem you get when you've used a PPA package at some point and then removed mention of the PPA from the sources lists | 18:56 |
| MoPac | TJ-: it's all showing raring at the moment | 18:58 |
| MoPac | TJ-: apt-get install -f finds nothing to do | 18:59 |
| TJ- | MoPac: No, it wouldn't. Let me check on a 13.10 install here | 18:59 |
| MoPac | TJ-: thanks | 19:00 |
| FernandoMiguel | I'm having a weird keyboard issue | 19:04 |
| TJ- | OK, I believe I have an explanation for you. You probably need to check for, and if not found, file a bug. | 19:04 |
| FernandoMiguel | it's missing @ and ] from many apps | 19:05 |
| FernandoMiguel | it doesn't detect alt+gr | 19:05 |
| TJ- | MoPac: The version of libcheese-gtk23 in raring is 3.6.2-0ubuntu3, in saucy it is 3.8.3-0ubuntu1. gnome-control-center says it needs libcheese-gtk23 > 3.4.0 ... so the raring package satisfies the version. | 19:06 |
| TJ- | MoPac: Not sure if the solution is in gnome-control-center's Depends versioning or in ensuring libcheese-gtk23 is updated prior to gnome-control-center | 19:07 |
| TJ- | MoPac: But, you could try specifically "sudo apt-get install libcheese-gtk23" first, to get you out this bind. | 19:08 |
| MoPac | TJ-: libcheese actually shows up a number of times regarding breaks in the debug section of the apt.log http://pastebin.com/aTNjstTV | 19:08 |
| MoPac | Broken libcheese-gtk23:amd64 Depends on libclutter-1.0-0 [ amd64 ] < 1.12.2-0ubuntu3.1 -> 1.14.4-3 > ( libs ) (>= 1.13.0) | 19:10 |
| MoPac | Considering libclutter-1.0-0:amd64 50 as a solution to libcheese-gtk23:amd64 20 | 19:10 |
| MoPac | Removing libcheese-gtk23:amd64 rather than change libclutter-1.0-0:amd64 | 19:10 |
| TJ- | MoPac: too many breaks on many packages there | 19:11 |
| MoPac | TJ-: could there be a common source for the problems? | 19:12 |
| TJ- | MoPac: I suspect you need to return /etc/apt/sources.list to its Raring state: "sudo sed -i 's/saucy/raring/g' /etc/apt/sources.list" then "sudo apt-get update" which should return to a 'good' Raring state, then try again | 19:13 |
| MoPac | TJ-: My sources.list doesn't have any saucy in it, though | 19:15 |
| TJ- | MoPac: Hmmm, have you previously changed it then? because do-release-upgrade performs by, in part, changing the release codename to the dev release to figure out the upgraded packages. Which is where those log messages originated | 19:17 |
| MoPac | TJ-: when it aborts, it reverts to the original state, which I assume includes rewriting the sources.list? | 19:17 |
| TJ- | MoPac... hmmm, never seen it do that for me when upgrades have barfed! | 19:18 |
| MoPac | TJ-: Well, it's either very broken (not changing the codename in the first place), or it's working very well (changing and then reverting back) | 19:18 |
| MoPac | I guess I could manually s/raring/saucy ... ? | 19:19 |
| TJ- | MoPac: not a good idea! You'd get into a worse mess | 19:20 |
| BluesKaj | MoPac: perhaps backing up your data , then doing a clean installl is best in your case. | 19:21 |
| TJ- | MoPac: Here's a matching bug #1229491 | 19:22 |
| ubottu | bug 1229491 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Can't upgrade to Ubuntu 13.10 from Ubuntu 13.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1229491 | 19:22 |
| MoPac | TJ-: BluesKaj: thanks for the advice -- since my setup is a bit complex (dual boot), I wouldn't really have time to mess with a clean install right now | 19:25 |
| MoPac | I'll check out the bug -- have to go away for a bit now | 19:25 |
| BluesKaj | dual boots are easliy handled by a cleran install , MoPac , they aren't difficult | 19:27 |
| wilee-nilee | kerloi, I have to take off in a minute or so, but we want to be on the correct channel is all, here is some additional uefi info. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295 | 19:59 |
| wilee-nilee | !uefi this as well is used | 20:00 |
| wilee-nilee | !uefi | 20:00 |
| ubottu | UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 20:00 |
| wilee-nilee | kerloi, Besides the IRC that author of the thread is excellent help, and visits and uefi thread on the forums to help, might be worth having a thread there if you do not get answers here. | 20:01 |
| wilee-nilee | and=any | 20:02 |
| kerloi | wilee-nilee, Well I followed the instructions and many other tuto. My problem is that I have a BIOS motherboard | 20:02 |
| wilee-nilee | kerloi, Yeah, they all are, so it is just a matter of getting the setup to work is all | 20:03 |
| wilee-nilee | I believe they all are if it is a oem uefi setup anyway | 20:03 |
| BluesKaj | kerloi: that should not be a preoblem , no uefi is easier to use installtion -wise than uefi is | 20:03 |
| kerloi | AN other problem is that I am unable to see any problem during the installation ... Even when I re-run the grub commands from the live usb everything seems fine. | 20:03 |
| wilee-nilee | I have to catch a bus now is all, so just wanted to get you some info. | 20:04 |
| kerloi | wilee-nilee, ok thx | 20:04 |
| wilee-nilee | no problem, best of luck. ;) | 20:04 |
| ker_loi | Hi all. I bought a new laptop few weeks ago and I was unable to install ubuntu 13.04 on it (many hardware problems ...) I've decided to test ubuntu 13.10. The installation went fine but then when I start my laptop I have the grub 2 command line ... I tried to re-install without success or to live boot and re-run grub update and install without any success | 20:08 |
| BluesKaj | ker_loi: grub rescue ? | 20:09 |
| Version1 | ker_loi: can you boot using live CD? | 20:11 |
| ker_loi | Version1, yes I have a live usb | 20:12 |
| ker_loi | working | 20:12 |
| Version1 | ker_loi: have you deleted the ubuntu partition | 20:14 |
| kerloi | Sorry my connection is not good tonight | 20:18 |
| loiker | >< Fed up with these disconnections | 20:20 |
| loiker | I see "GNU GRUB version 2.00-19ubuntu1" at the top, a line of informations about grub and then the "grub>" | 20:21 |
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| Version1 | kerloi: you can use Grub2Win if you have windows installed | 20:24 |
| kerloi | Version1, I don't | 20:24 |
| Version1 | kerloi: i think you need to type commands and boot the kernel | 20:34 |
| ker_loi | Well it's working. Maybe it will be enought for now. I'll wait 13.10 to be released to fix that problem | 20:39 |
| ker_loi | Thx Version1 | 20:39 |
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