[04:20] <linfeng> hello all, could I seek help about building xorg-server for ubuntu here? I don't know if it's proper to ask here, but thanks in advance :)
[04:24] <linfeng> My problem is that I want to backport a patch for xorg 1.6.4, and rebuild it for exactly ubuntu 9.10. I google for a long time but can't find any guild about this.
[04:26] <linfeng> What I need is the xorg confirue option for u910, it there any website teach me for that? I can't get any useful info even on ubuntu official website :(
[05:52] <linfeng> Hi, is there any guy who is awake can help me?
[06:12] <dpm> linfeng, if you ask your question, perhaps :)
[06:13] <linfeng> aha, dpm so nice you are :)
[06:14] <linfeng> I want to seek help about building xorg-server for ubuntu ?
[06:15] <linfeng> My problem is that I want to backport a patch for xorg 1.6.4, and rebuild it for exactly ubuntu 9.10. I google for a long time but can't find any guidance about this.
[06:15] <linfeng> What I need is the xorg confirue option for u910, it there any website teach me for that? I can't get any useful info even on ubuntu official website.
[06:18] <dpm> linfeng, I'd recommend asking on the #ubuntu-x IRC channel or on their mailing list. This is a channel for application development as opposed to platform development, and while people would be happy to help you, I don't think we've got any X experts on the current channel. You'll find more info on how to contact the X team here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/SwatTeam
[06:20] <linfeng> Oh, got it. dpm, thank you very much for your help :)
[06:20] <dpm> np :-)
[06:27] <zsombi> dpm, popey, nik90, nik90_: finally, the Alarm API with EDS integration landed in SDK trunk
[06:28] <dpm> zsombi, *\o/*
[06:28] <dpm> what a nice way to start the day :)
[06:29] <zsombi> dpm: and I'm updating the other MR which fixes/extends the API so we can get that landed too
[06:31] <dpm> zsombi, excellent. Quick question: do you happen to know the status of the discussion with indicators (i.e. how alarms will actually be shown)? I haven't really been following it, and I'd be interested to know how the notifications will happen
[06:32] <zsombi> dpm: not followed that, Charles hasn't responded on the email, we need to ping tvoss about that
[06:35] <dpm> zsombi, let me try to reach to thostr_ later on, as this seems to have to do more with Unity APIs and tvoss is on holiday. Would you be happy to join in a call later on in the morning?
[06:36] <zsombi> dpm: I'll be away for about 2hs, will leave in ~1h. Not sure whether I can add value to that, I haven't followed notifications at all, as I haven't had  to deal with it...
[06:38] <dpm> zsombi, no worries. So that I have more context, how does the alarms API cater for notifications? Is there a signal or some sort of notification to hook into the indicators API?
[06:40] <zsombi> dpm: alarm has nothing to do with the notifications, it's mor ethe backend who should do the jomm. and in our case it is the QtOrganizer, more precisely the EDS server. Alarms are stored as ToDo entries in EDS, the question is how that triggers the notification. So far I know that part is not yet in place, you should get renato into loop for that.
[06:40] <zsombi> s/jomm/job
[06:41] <dpm> zsombi, ok, thanks.
[07:01] <dholbach> good morning
[07:57] <timp> gusch: do you have a small piece of code that I can use to reproduce this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1227783
[07:59] <gusch> timp: sorry no - but simply load a big image (on the desktop you might need to make it bigger than 8192 pixel)
[08:06] <timp> gusch: ok, I'll try
[08:07] <timp> gusch: the sourceSize is already set to the sourceSize of the input
[08:08] <gusch> timp: but it seems when changing the image, it's not
[08:09] <gusch> timp: in the settings app I was able to see the selected (big) background, when starting the app again - but not when it was freshly selected
[08:10] <timp> ok, I'll experiment a bit
[08:15] <timp> gusch: the code I pasted on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1227783 should expose the bug?
[08:17] <gusch> timp: if the image is really big, yes, I think so
[08:18] <timp> ok, I'll try to make a really big image.
[08:20] <gusch> timp: the problem occurs here in the settings app http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~system-settings-touch/ubuntu-system-settings/trunk/view/head:/plugins/background/SwappableImage.qml
[08:53] <timp> gusch: UbuntuShape can also have an image as input
[08:53] <timp> ah it has
[08:54] <timp> the ses is for the fading??
[09:00] <gusch> timp: I don't know thy the UbuntuShape and the Shader is used there
[09:00] <gusch> timp: but the shell uses plain CrossFadeImage (well a copy of it at the moment), mzanetti knows more about that
[09:00] <timp> gusch: ok, I managed to reproduce the bug without those and a 10K^2 pixels image
[09:01] <mzanetti> gusch: yeah... I already started a branch where I dropped the copy of shell's crossfadeimage. but always got interrupted before finishing it off so far
[09:02] <timp> until today I didn't even know we had a CrossfadeImage in UITK
[09:05] <mzanetti> same here :)
[09:21] <Laney> yes the ses is for fading
[09:21] <Laney> you can't (couldn't) put a CrossFadeImage directly in an UbuntuShape
[09:21] <Laney> K aleo helped me with that at the time
[09:36] <timp> Laney: you work on system settings?
[09:36] <Laney> y
[09:36] <Laney> es
[09:37] <timp> perhaps setting the source size would solve the issue
[09:37] <timp> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~tpeeters/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/crossFadeImage_SourceSize_fix/revision/760
[09:37] <timp> have to think if that breaks something.
[09:38] <Laney> feel free to try ;-)
[09:38] <Laney> we're at a stage where playing with stuff like that has to take a back seat
[09:39] <Laney> for now, anyway
[09:42] <dpm> morning timp, loicm, I think one of you had a chat with the RSS Reader app guys and you gave them recommendations for how to display UbuntuShape'd articles in the overview grid, and how to have an UbuntuShape displaying an image and another one within displaying a title. We've now got the same situation with the Music app (see the screenshots on the MP), would you mind adding a comment to the MP if you have any recommendations for them, so that they
[09:42] <dpm>  are in sync with what the RSS guys do? -> https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/albums-page-label/+merge/187132
[09:42] <dpm> popey, ^
[09:42]  * popey looks
[09:44] <popey> ooh, thats pretty
[09:45] <dpm> :)
[09:46] <loicm> dpm: hi, is that because you're not satisfied with their current rendering?
[09:47] <loicm> dpm: I'll give them the same recommendation I gave the RSS app guys
[09:48] <dpm> loicm, I'm happy with whatever makes sense from the SDK point of view. I'm just trying to make sure they follow the same recommendations as the RSS reader guys, so that we're not reimplementing the same thing again. Thanks!
[09:49] <loicm> dpm: sure
[09:50] <dpm> great, thank you :)
[09:52] <loicm> dpm: just added a comment on the MR
[09:54] <dpm> super, thanks loicm
[09:55] <oSoMoN> daker: hey, can you merge the latest trunk in one of the remaining two MRs, so we can merge it?
[10:02] <daker> oSoMoN: sure
[10:02] <oSoMoN> thanks!
[10:13] <daker> oSoMoN: https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/webbrowser-app/fix.1169758/+merge/186892
[10:14] <oSoMoN> daker: thanks, approved
[10:17] <daker> once it's merged, i'll update the last one
[10:21] <dholbach> dpm, the list of apps still needing some fixes (or are waiting for other reasons) are these, right? ramsamsam reader, skimbou, memories and audiotape, right?
[10:21] <dholbach> dpm, I pinged all of them again
[10:22] <dpm> dholbach, I noticed that memories is already approved and installable, so it seems the security guys made an exception
[10:22] <dpm> thanks :)
[10:22] <dholbach> ok, that's one off the list then
[10:47] <nerochiaro> does anyone know if there's a way to fake making and receiving calls on the phone without having to have a SIM in it and spend money ?
[10:47] <nerochiaro> (not to mention have another phone)
[10:53] <AskUbuntu> Compiling code that depends on QT4 with QT5 installed | http://askubuntu.com/q/349430
[11:08] <oSoMoN> gusch, nerochiaro: hey, could one of you please approve https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/fix-deps-alignment/+merge/187166 ?
[11:13] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: done
[11:15] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: thanks
[11:39] <danielholm> hi, anyone who knows a way to extract data from a localStorage DB? like to a file? or could tell me where the db file is so I at least can back it up?
[11:44] <popey> danielholm: sqlite3 /path/to/database.db .dump
[11:45] <danielholm> popey: cool. and they are stored in ~/.local/share/Qt\ Project/QtQmlViewer/QML/OfflineStore?
[11:45] <popey> yes
[11:45] <popey> grep music *.ini
[11:46] <popey> will tell you which one
[11:46] <danielholm> awesome. thank you! I think I got em now
[11:46] <danielholm> ah
[11:46] <danielholm> thats even better, since I had a lot of them
[11:46] <popey> yeah, we all do ☻
[11:46] <popey> fun ☻
[11:47] <danielholm> hehe. I'm reseting my broken nexus and it had all my quesions from the quiz app I worked on a couple a months ago. so thank you :)
[11:47] <popey> np
[11:48] <danielholm> yeah! got them. that was quite easy - when you know how to :p
[12:00] <oSoMoN> daker: the last MR is ready to be updated
[12:00] <daker> oSoMoN: doing it
[12:00] <oSoMoN> thanks!
[12:01] <daker> oSoMoN: done https://code.launchpad.net/~daker/webbrowser-app/fix.1169759
[12:03] <daker> oSoMoN: do you know why i am getting "module "Ubuntu.Components.Pickers" is not installed" ?
[12:04] <daker> i am using the saucy with the latest version of the ui-toolkit
[12:04] <daker> ubuntu-ui-toolkit-theme:i386/saucy 0.1.46+13.10.20130916-0ubuntu1 uptodate
[12:05] <daker> and it's the same version where the picker component was added https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/0.1.46+13.10.20130916-0ubuntu1
[12:06] <daker> and nothing in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/
[12:08] <wellsb> daker: I just downloaded the picker and picker delegate from source and bundled it in my application as a workaround until the picker lands in the toolkit.  Not sure why it's not there yet
[12:09] <daker> wellsb: look at the changelog https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/0.1.46+13.10.20130916-0ubuntu1
[12:09] <daker> and i do have a "Picker" section on gallery
[12:09] <daker> the*
[12:11] <wellsb> zsombi provided this update a few days about about the picker:  there are few things that needs to be there first: 1) CI needs to work again, 2) I don't have tyet the UI confirmed from UX for the components, 3) I got other more urgent things to do first... so expect at least 2 more weeks to get the components...
[12:12] <wellsb> may have been date picker specific, though.  I'd have to check the conversation
[12:12] <zsombi> wellsb: Ci works again, Picker tumbler is already in the trunk, Dialer is under review, and I'm working on the date and Time picker API right now
[12:13] <wellsb> Right.  I took the picker from trunk to implement my own date picker in the interim
[12:14] <daker> zsombi: will the date & time picker be global ? cause we nee them for the browser too
[12:15] <daker> or just we just need to copy the code ?
[12:16] <zsombi> daker: there are going to be in UITK yes
[12:16] <daker> zsombi: perfect
[12:17] <zsombi> daker under Ubuntu.Componets.Pickers
[12:18] <wellsb> zsombi: For date picker, the model for day number changes based on month.  Right now the pickerstyle says to move to index0 if the model changes.  Will this be fixed?  Right now, I'm just keeping track of the previous value and if the modelchange caused the selectedindex change, I just revert back to the previously assigned value
[12:19] <wellsb> (if the selected index is less than the model count, of course)
[12:20] <Laney> Is there a way to ask a Switch (& similar) to not update their 'checked' state when clicked by the user?
[12:21] <zsombi> welolsb let me check...
[12:21] <zsombi> wellsb: ^
[12:25] <daker> Laney: a hacky way onclicked : checked: true
[12:25] <daker> not sure if it will works or not
[12:25] <Laney> the last one needs to be an =
[12:26] <Laney> and you can't hardcode true
[12:26] <Laney> but yeah, that probably does work
[12:26] <daker> ya
[12:27] <zsombi> wellsb: hold on, why do you change the model?
[12:28] <wellsb> Because there's more days in january than in february.  Since you're asking that question, clearly that's not the best approach.  What should I be doing?
[12:28] <zsombi> wellsb: is a model changes, the index must be reset to 0 as you don't know whether the previous index would point to the proper position, especially if you don;t have that index anymore in the model
[12:30] <wellsb> Yeah, I observed that.  I added a bunch of code to handle that issue, but it seems less than ideal
[12:30] <zsombi> wellsb: but the question is still unanswered: why would you need to change the model?
[12:31] <wellsb> How would you propose I show 30 days for November and 31 for December in my picker?
[12:33] <zsombi> wellsb: depends :) if we must show only the days based on the month (i.e. not graying out the ones which are not selectable) then you're right. But the index can be restored if you keep an internal date which follows the Picker selection
[12:33] <zsombi> wellsb: but that will be the way DatePicker will work
[12:36] <wellsb> Yeah that's how I'm handling it now.  Good to know
[12:40] <zsombi> unless I come up with a better solution :)
[12:40] <wellsb> Feel free :)
[12:41] <wellsb> Like keeping the model at 31, and setting the individual delegate item's visibility based on month
[13:12] <oSoMoN> gusch, nerochiaro: would one of you be available for a quick review? https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/toolbar-spacing/+merge/187205
[13:13] <gusch> oSoMoN: ok
[13:14] <oSoMoN> thanks
[13:19] <gusch> oSoMoN: approved
[13:20] <oSoMoN> gusch: thanks
[13:39] <wellsb> Are there plans to extend the webview functionality to allow to setUserStyleSheetUrl from qml
[13:40] <wellsb> I'll see about setting it w/ js
[14:04] <oSoMoN> bfiller: here is a MR that updates the visuals for expanded activity view: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/activity-expanded/+merge/187190
[14:07] <bfiller> oSoMoN: cool will look
[14:27] <zzzz> how do i delete a document in U1DB
[14:27] <zzzz> ?
[14:31] <daker> zzzz: from the web ui ?
[14:31] <zzzz> daker : in a qml app
[14:32] <daker> zzzz: yes, the db is uploaded to the web, so i guess you will see it here ubuntuone.com
[14:34] <zzzz> daker : iam making a notes app, i want the user to be able to delete a note from the app. And by 'document' i dont mean a file, i mean a db document : http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/devel/ubuntu-13.10/qml/u1db-qt5/tutorial.html
[14:34] <daker> i see you mean from the qml app, right ?
[14:35] <zzzz> daker : yes
[14:35] <daker> zzzz: maybe mhall119 can help you
[14:37] <mhall119> daker: I don't think the u1db is shown as a file on ubuntu one
[15:27] <mhall119> if anybody is intersted in app developer advocacy, we have a live session going on now: http://ubuntuonair.com/
[15:27] <mhall119> and #ubuntu-on-air channel of Freenode
[15:59] <oSoMoN> gusch, nerochiaro: can one of you please approve https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/pot-update/+merge/187275 ?
[15:59] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: you got it
[15:59] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: thanks
[16:19] <nik90|Office> kalikiana: ping (a small question regarding sqlite storage location)
[16:53] <daker> oSoMoN: \o/
[17:42] <Chocanto> nik90_: Hey, thank you for your review. I made all modifications, and I think your are agree about the maintainer of the package, I will put my name. Just for the architecture, why are you thinking "any" should not be ok ?
[17:55] <nik90|Office> Chocanto: since it is a c++ plugin, maybe you need to specify the architecture where it needs to be built specifically..like amd64 and armf
[17:55] <nik90|Office> Chocanto: again I *think*
[17:55] <nik90|Office> Chocanto: perhaps you should ask dpm or mhall119 about this alone
[17:55] <Chocanto> nik90|Office: I will ask :)
[17:56] <nik90|Office> Chocanto: will check again when I get home in about 2 hours... still in office :(
[17:56] <Chocanto> nik90|Office: But again thank a lot for your review :)
[17:56] <nik90|Office> Chocanto: np
[17:56] <Chocanto> nik90|Office: I you want to check again you can, but my modifications will only be what you said
[17:56] <Chocanto> nik90|Office: So if everything else is ok..
[17:57] <nik90|Office> Chocanto: then I guess it is good to go
[17:58] <Chocanto> nik90|Office: Because if fginther is available I will ask him to add it to the PPA tonight. Good luck with your work !
[18:13] <nik90|Office> Chocanto: thnx. leaving now.
[18:26] <bfiller> oSoMoN: regarding the activity view, assuming it's desired that the expansion occurs above the domain now rather than below?
[18:27] <oSoMoN> bfiller: yes, that’s a change that design requested, apparently for consistency with other apps where the expansion happens above
[18:28] <bfiller> oSoMoN: ok, also have you tested when you have "today" and "yesterday", "last 7 days" populated? I only have "today" in my history so can't test those scenarios
[18:28] <oSoMoN> bfiller: yes, on my device I have all the sections populated, and it works well
[18:28] <bfiller> oSoMoN: cool, approving then
[18:29] <oSoMoN> bfiller: thanks
[19:00] <AskUbuntu> Can Unity be used as an independent interface in a custom non-ubuntu build OS? | http://askubuntu.com/q/349608
[20:25] <kalikiana> nik90: the location for sqlite is about to be in the app-specific folder as opposed to Qt Project *soonish* if that's the question. it's waiting on getting into the images
[20:25] <kalikiana> sometime in the next days
[20:26] <kalikiana> Chocanto: was it you asking about opening downloaded files? turns out loicm is the one working on that
[20:26] <Chocanto> kalikiana: Yes it was me :) Ok thank you !
[20:26] <Chocanto> So... loicm ping ?
[20:38] <nik90_> kalikiana: yeah I saw your branch and hence the question. So would the database be stored in .local/share/ubuntu-clock-app?
[20:39] <kalikiana> nik90_: to be exact the name is equivalent to what applicationName in your MainView says
[20:39] <nik90_> kalikiana: that's what it says. thnx
[20:40] <kalikiana> just mentioning it for clarity. the other day I saw a name that was so weird I thought the person didn't understand what to put in there :-P
[20:45] <nik90_> hehe
[22:26] <nerochiaro> boiko: still around ?
[23:46] <JAGAN> HI