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pittiGood morning05:49
jibelGood morning pitti , wie gehts? did you recover from your trip already?05:51
pittijibel: I felt really good yesterday; this morning I'm a bit tired, but by and large it went well, yes05:55
pittijibel: et toi, ça va ?05:55
jibelpitti, ça va bien merci, en plus l'été est de retour :)06:02
pittijibel: ici aussi, mais il est plus froid que New Orleans :)06:03
JackYupitti, jibel, French?06:12
pittiJackYu: oui, Monsieur !06:12
JackYupitti, Bonjour:)06:13
jibelJackYu, yes06:23
jibelJackYu, Bonjour06:23
JackYu:006:23
JackYu:)06:23
veeberspitti: re: the new autopilot-sandbox-run, I was having issues with input. Namely, it was moving my actual mouse while the tests were running06:27
veeberspitti: is there something further that I need to do perhaps?06:28
veebers(I was trying to run unity8 tests, will try something a little more basic and see if I came across it still)06:28
pittiveebers: could  it be that it was using the evdev method instead of the x11 driver? that would explain it06:29
veeberspitti: ah ok, yeah that would explain it06:30
pittiveebers: sandboxing would only work with the x11 driver when it uses $DISPLAY; /dev/uinput can't easily be sandboxed that way06:30
veebersso no luck using the sandbox with evdev right? Is that due to it beinging at a lower level06:30
veebersright, ok cheers06:30
pittiveebers: I think it could work if the emulated device gets blacklisted in the real X and only added to the emulated X; that's much harder to do though, requires root and restarting your session06:31
pittiveebers: so you ran with Xephyr, not Xvfb, right?06:31
veeberspitti: I tried both06:31
pittiveebers: unity8 sounds rather demanding, though; so far we only tried it with app tests like shotwell06:32
veeberspitti: sure, fair enough. I suppose hardware acceleration would also be an issue06:32
pittiveebers: yes; these two would only offer llvmpipe06:33
pittiveebers: I guess unity8 should be less demanding on that than unity 7/compiz, though06:33
veebersah ok. thanks for clarifying that pitti.06:33
veeberspitti: would you think it'll be worth me looking if I can get it working if I can get it to use the X11 backend?06:34
DanChapmanmorning all06:34
pittiveebers: if unity8 can use X, that be nice; if not, it's probably easier to run the whole thing in a VM instead06:35
veeberspitti: well, I can run the unity8 test suite on my desktop as is (launches it in a window)06:36
pittiveebers: ah, so much the better06:36
pittiwould still steal focus and pretty much disallow any other interaction though?06:36
veebershmm, us having this discussion now . . . I seem to recall having a similar one with thomi a wee while ago06:37
veebersfrom what I understand, it runs just like a normal windowed application when run like that06:37
veebersi.e. unity8 -testability -geometry 384x640  -mousetouch06:38
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knomehmph, was there a way to see who tested the previous build of a certain product/milestone again?08:21
elfyhttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/303/history08:21
elfyif you're after b2 ones ...08:22
knomeaha08:22
knomewhere's the link to that?08:22
elfy^^08:22
knomei mean, in the ISO tracker08:22
knomeor is it a semi-hidden page?08:22
knomeah, there, i got it08:22
knometa08:22
elfycool - quicker than I can type :)08:23
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davmor2Morning all10:05
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elopiogood morning.12:39
DanChapmanmorning elopio12:40
elopiohey DanChapman.12:40
davmor2morning elopio12:41
elopiohello davmor2.12:43
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balloonsmorning everyone13:35
smartboyhwHello balloons13:35
smartboyhwSo, we got less work thanks to the CI! :P13:35
DanChapmanmorning balloons :-)13:36
balloonssmartboyhw, hello.. We certainly have the potential to do more yes13:36
smartboyhwballoons, heh heh13:36
smartboyhwHello DanChapman, care to do some Beta 2 testing?13:36
balloonsDanChapman, so I was looking at your autopilot ubiquity tests again yesterday in preparation for pushing forward using them to ease the manual testing burden. It seems some of your code is still unmerged in the source tree of ubiquity13:39
cgoldbergpitti, i couldn't sleep last night... so I was up at midnight tweaking the docs for autopilot :)  I made the theme look more Ubuntu-ized.  wanna have a look at the output before I do an MP?13:42
DanChapmanballoons: I am working on new tests as we speak right now. Taking a slightly different approach with them, which turned out i needed to basically re-write them all. But will be alot more solid when done13:43
pitticgoldberg: heh, never ask me about visual design :) but sure13:46
cgoldbergpitti, i soprta suck at design also... but i think it looks better...13:47
cgoldbergbefore: http://unity.ubuntu.com/autopilot/13:47
cgoldbergadfter: http://goldb.org/autopilot_docs/13:47
cgoldbergusing Ubuntu font, and colors from the design guidelines pallete13:48
cgoldberg^^ ... comments welcome from anyone13:50
elopiocgoldberg: I like the colors a lot better. balloons: we can tell cgoldberg to change the emulators docs colors on his next sleepless night :)13:55
cgoldberg:)13:55
balloonscgoldberg, :-) indeed, there is a gtk emulator too..13:56
* balloons nudges pitti to review it :-)13:56
cgoldbergelopio, balloons,  as long as they use sphinx for generating docs, I can reuse my theme13:57
balloonsyes, they use sphinx13:57
balloonswhoa, that's quite a difference13:57
pitticgoldberg: ah, nice color schema!13:57
balloonsreally nice cgoldberg !13:58
cgoldbergthanks ;)  I'll MP it, and it will land where the official docs are13:58
xeranashi balloons14:12
balloonsxeranas, hello14:12
xeranasballoons, been busy more than month after vocation. I was thought that ubuntu touch apps will be fully covered by pilot tests, but seems that development still in progress14:16
balloonsxeranas, more or less, but a good test is always useful. you can see the tests being run each day on the dashboard: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/14:17
balloonsso for instance, there's been some changes in music app or calendar app that have caused them to no longer completely pass: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_ro/4412/14:18
jibelcgoldberg, Nice!  Although 1 comment: the search box is slightly misaligned (Go should be on the same level than the saerch box) and dark gray on light gray is difficult to read http://ubuntuone.com/6VbwbkxMuWuPRIgfXFkuVB <- on saucy/firefox 2414:21
cgoldbergjibel, thanks for feeback!  I'll tweak the sidebar and repost14:22
xnoxballoons: DanChapman: what branches are un-merged? I don't see anything here https://code.launchpad.net/ubiquity/+activereviews14:25
cgoldbergjibel, refresh and look again.  better?  http://goldb.org/autopilot_docs/14:27
jibelcgoldberg, perfect, thanks!14:30
cgoldbergany web hackers know if there is a program like 'tidy' that reformats CSS files to adjust whitespace, indentation, etc14:31
cgoldbergaha.. 'csstidy' is in the repos14:33
DanChapmanxnox, i don't believe i proposed it. Alots changing with it so I will leave the MP till thats done. :-)14:34
balloonsxnox, DanChapman yes, I was stating to Dan that what's running in the jenkins instance is from his branch, not from trunk, and his branch has changes it in14:40
balloons*in it not found in trunk and vice versa14:40
jibelballoons, maybe I should switch run trunk instead?14:42
jibelor is Dan's branch still okay for now14:43
balloonsjibel, I would say so. In addition, would it possible to run the version of ubiquity found on an image?14:43
balloonsjibel, so yes switch it to trunk ;-)14:43
balloonsthough DanChapman may have enjoyed being able to change things and see the outcome14:44
balloons:-)14:44
xnoxDanChapman: ideally i'd like to have all tests in lp:ubiquity. So propose changes there for quick merging. And/or I think we can even grant you commit access, as long as you commit only autopilot tests and not break clean target (mostly means pep8 / pyflakes do not complain)14:45
jibelballoons, we can run both, of course14:50
DanChapmanxnox, ok cool. I'm not entirely sure why the tests were getting pulled from my branch anyway and forgot to ask jibel about it. commit access would be handy as it can take a while to sort the timing issues compared with running locally :-)14:51
balloonsSo jibel, you, DanChapman and myself should talk a little bit about the next steps. I want to push forward with getting these running in a way that we can scale down our manual efforts. I'd like to have a full implementation up and running for final release next month14:55
balloonsthe goal would be to have it running alongside all the normal manual testing, and we'll do a comparison of how it works out14:56
jibelballoons, +1, when do you want to talk?14:57
balloonsI can hangout right no if you want to be impromptu ;-) Otherwise, let's put something on the calendar for this week14:58
DanChapmanballoons: I can do a hangout some point this week, bit tied up right now15:01
balloonsjibel, DanChapman, is Thursday at 1400 UTC a good time?15:01
DanChapmanballoons: thats good for me15:02
balloonshmm, actually I could even do Weds at 1400 UTC as well..15:02
balloonsok, jibel if thursday at 1400 works for you, I'll pencil that in15:04
DanChapmanballoons: I can do either15:04
balloonsDanChapman, ok, we'll leave it to jibel.. pick a date :-)15:04
xeranasit been a while, I probably forget but what is 'ubuntuuitoolkit' (music app emulator trying to import but on my sistem not founds)15:07
balloonsxeranas, ahh, the ubuntuuitoolkit is the qt/qml emulator15:07
balloonsxeranas, http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/devel/ubuntu-13.04/autopilot/ubuntuuitoolkit.html#module-ubuntuuitoolkit.emulators15:08
balloonsxeranas, install ubuntu-ui-toolkit-autopilot15:09
cgoldbergpitti, do the docs for Autopilot get published as part of the CI build?  (to http://unity.ubuntu.com/autopilot/)15:22
pitticgoldberg: I don't know how that works; if you get an answer from thomi, I'll happily learn15:23
cgoldbergpitti, I MP'ed my docs branch:  https://code.launchpad.net/~coreygoldberg/autopilot/pretty-sphinx-docs/+merge/18726915:23
jibelballoons, thursday 1400utc is fine15:23
cgoldbergpitti, we can always land it and see if it updates :)  or does thomi get final review on all changes we land?15:24
jibelballoons, I cannot on Weds15:24
balloonsjibel, sending invite for thursday, ty15:24
balloonscgoldberg, the docs do get published as part of the ci build15:28
cgoldbergballoons, ok cool.  wanna review my branch? :)   https://code.launchpad.net/~coreygoldberg/autopilot/pretty-sphinx-docs/+merge/18726915:29
cgoldbergi also tweaked the color scheme a little more a min ago15:29
jibelballoons, you said 1400utc and sent an invite for 130015:31
cgoldbergballoons, also.. process question...  whats the protocol for landing branches in Autopilot?  after 1 accepted review, can i do a global approve to merge  it?  or does thomi get global approve?, or something else?   So far I've relied on thomi to land my changes after I MP'ed them15:32
balloonsjibel, bah, sorry15:46
balloonsI'll move it15:46
balloonscgoldberg, that I can't tell you15:47
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balloonselopio, ping16:58
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elopioballoons: pong17:17
balloonselopio, so were are we on the modifying the base emulator to get rid of the __init__.py craziness? I need to add a test_launch_click to all the core apps, so now is a good time to use it17:19
elopioballoons: 3/4 done. Let me push what I have.17:20
balloonsis it done enough to migrate to it?17:21
elopioballoons: no. I need to test it in the template.17:26
elopiobut well, actually thomi was against hardcoding all the code on the setUp of the base class.17:26
balloonslet me know if I can help.. ohh was he?17:26
elopioso we will be inherithing from ubuntuuitoolkit.base.UbuntuUIToolkitAppTestCase, and duplicating the rest of the code.17:27
elopiothat base class is ready.17:27
balloonselopio, ok, well I'd like to save the work and do it all at once. So let me know :-) I'll make the changes I need to make first17:31
balloonsplars, did you try an oem install?17:56
plarsballoons: I tried it at one point and was blocked on one of the bugs... I need to go back and start afresh with it, make sure I have a clean system and *don't* try installing from live session17:57
plarsballoons: unless you want to take that one?17:57
balloonsplars, I'm playing with it now17:57
plarsballoons: it passed in automation iirc, but the automated case doesn't go all the way through17:57
plarsballoons: so it's one we definitely want to hit17:57
balloonsit's not working.. but I found other little gotchas17:57
balloonsjust thought I'd ask :-)17:57
plarsballoons: I'm not surprised17:57
plarsballoons: I think I saw mention of a bug someone opened recently about the oem temporary user not getting removed, that's one thing to watch for17:58
balloonswell I wanted to see how the u1 screen handled everything, but I can't get to enduser setup :-)17:58
plarsballoons: I expect the desktop install is generally busted at the moment, so it's hard to make much progress on that one17:58
plarsballoons: yeah, I logged a bug on that also17:58
plarsballoons: it never progresses if you try to give it login info for u1 (at least for me it didn't)17:59
plarsballoons: and if I click continue, I get an error17:59
balloonsahh, I filed this.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/122987417:59
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1229874 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "OEM initial install contains u1 setup screen" [Undecided,New]17:59
balloonsI wouldn't have expected to see it in the oem install17:59
balloonskind of a dupe I guess then17:59
plarsballoons: actually... it gave a crash and was a dup18:01
plarsballoons: let me see if I can find it18:01
plarsballoons: oh, yeah if it's asking you about that before you get to the oem-config portion, that's a big problem :)18:01
elfyhi balloons - all going well for you I hope18:02
plarsballoons: no, that's a different bug18:02
plarsballoons: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1223641 was the one I was thinking of... it's marked private but probably doesn't need to be. I just haven't had a chance to finish reviewing all the attachments for confidential data yet18:03
ubot5Error: ubuntu bug 1223641 not found18:03
balloonsplars, so the secondary bug is the failure during end user setup.. it boots to an "unrecoverable" error message and that's it18:03
balloonsplars, yea, I can't see that bug then18:03
plarsballoons: you are not bug-control?18:04
balloonselfy, hello.. I see your name showing up for xubuntu so I know you've been busy18:04
balloonsplars, I am not that cool18:04
balloonsyou are eh?18:04
plarsballoons: surely you've done enough bug-wrangling to have gone through the process by now!18:04
plarsballoons: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl18:05
elfyballoons: indeed, though I wish I'd not done anything yesterday - didn't expect them to get respun again while I was sleeping :)18:05
* plars suspects balloons has met the criteria a few times over by now18:06
balloonselfy, aye18:07
elfywe've had a good response though - almost 60 results over the archived and live b2 test - happy piskie :)18:08
balloonsbtw, is it just me or is failsafe x kind of borked?18:09
balloonswhoa, lightening just struck the house or very very close.. wicked.. the sound and light..18:14
elfyalways nice that :)18:15
elfynature's laser and sound shows are usually good watching - better from a short distance though18:16
balloonsit delivered interference to the whole house.. all the electronics went buzz and the screen went wild.. everything still seems ok though18:17
DanChapmanelfy, i used to think the same... until i witnessed someone get struck by it on a golf course. Not a happy ending..18:18
elfy:(18:18
balloonsdude, it happened again..18:20
* balloons runs around screaming18:20
DanChapmanlol18:21
* elfy waits for balloons to go offline 18:21
elopioballoons: I'm sorry, I got distracted: https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/uitk_base_class/+merge/18731318:26
elopioI can't finish it today, because I have to reply to support tickets.18:27
elopiodo you need it urgently?18:27
balloonselopio, no that is fine. I'll assume it's complete and modify the core apps18:28
balloonselopio, did you see how sergio did the click launches?18:28
elopioballoons: no, how?18:28
balloonselfy, lol, that won't happen because it's connected via my cloud server18:29
balloonsbut jimney man, I'm checking everything out.. this is crazy18:29
elfydon't go outside though18:30
elfyunless you can film it for us :p18:30
balloonselopio, https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/notes-app/click/+merge/187036.. starting @ 15618:30
balloonselfy, I *think* the bulk of the excitement has passed now.. the thunder is further away18:33
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elfy:) from where I sit I can see the top of the Isle of Wight - often seen lightiing strikes hitting Lord Tennyson's monument18:35
* robotfuel waves at jfunk18:40
* jfunk waves back to robotfuel 18:40
elopioballoons: hum, but according to thomi we can't use launch_click_package18:50
elopioon the desktop18:50
elopiomaybe I should give it a try.18:50
elopiothat would reduce a couple of cases from the code.18:50
balloonselopio, I'm probably more confused than you are by the whole thing but Sergio was saying this was how to do it18:53
sergiusenselopio, balloons you can on desktop as long as you run mir and confined apps (so in reality, no)18:59
balloonselfy, I had never heard of the isle of wight. interesting19:03
knomeballoons, woot19:03
elfyballoons: it's just 'there' :p19:06
balloonsohh fastnet starts on the isle of wight.. d'oh! I know it19:06
elfyha ha ha19:06
elopiosergiusens: got it. But we will be able to install click apps on the desktop sometime in the near future, right?19:10
sergiusenselopio, I don't feel good answering those questions anymore :-)19:11
cgoldbergballoons, never heard of Isle of Wight?   famous for their music festival in late 1960's.  Jimi Hendrix had one of his most famous concerts there in 1970:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5WLFQx0AhM19:18
balloonscgoldberg, the name didn't sound familiar at all at first.. but yea, I jogged my memory enough :-)19:19
elopiosergiusens: I'll take that as a yes ;)19:24
elopioI'm going to have lunch19:25
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letozafballoons, hi20:12
balloonsletozaf, hello20:12
letozafballoons, don't know if you had time to read my mail on autopilot sandboxing20:13
letozafballoons, running a test with autopilot run has no failures, with autopilot sandbox has  failures20:14
letozafballoons, I was wondering If I have to report a bug or what20:14
letozafballoons, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6141359/20:15
balloonsletozaf, no I haven't gotten any mails20:28
balloonsletozaf,  and hmm.. that is interesting.. did you try it with xfvb? just drop the -X20:28
letozafballoons, ok I will now ...20:29
letozafballoons, I re-sent the mail now, but it's not so important as I am telling you now on IRC :P20:30
cgoldbergthomi.. I Ubuntu-ized the Autopilot sphinx docs.  MP is up.  here's a preview:  http://goldb.org/autopilot_docs/20:30
cgoldbergnitpicks and suggestions welcome20:30
balloonsletozaf, indeed :-)20:31
thomicgoldberg: *gah* my eyes!!!20:31
thomicgoldberg: ;)20:31
cgoldbergthomi, it follows Ubuntu color guidelines ;)20:31
thomiyeah, well....20:31
thomiit's the orange20:31
letozafballoons, test is running without -X ...20:31
balloonsso you are seeing failures that occur only in Xephyr yes?20:32
letozafballoons, just a second the tests are still running ...20:32
thomicgoldberg: looks good otherwise - is this in preparation to move the docs out of the unity.ubuntu.com domain?20:33
letozafballoons, no errors with xfvb20:33
cgoldbergthomi, overall the docs are great in terms of content.  I was impressed when I actually really read it all.20:33
letozafballoons, so it looks like it happens only with Xephyr20:33
balloonsletozaf, perfect, yes I would say go ahead and report it, so a closer look can be had. However, I'm not shall we say, super surprised20:34
thomicgoldberg: thanks! Theres' still a few holes here and there20:34
cgoldbergthomi, no idea.. i just wanted the docs to look pretty :)20:34
balloonsthomi, cgoldberg it will certainly help :-)20:34
letozafballoons, ok I will report the bug now20:34
thomicgoldberg: if you're looking for something to do, perhaps talk with mhall119 and see if we can't move the AP docs to the developer.ubuntu.com domain20:34
thomicgoldberg: also, we really need a way to publish multiple versions of the docs: 1.3 for S, 1.4 for T.... the docs.python.org sphinx docs solve this niocely20:35
thomi*nicely20:35
thomiperhaps we can steal some of their code20:35
cgoldbergthomi, got it... yea.. we need versioned docs for sure.. i'll look into that, and talk to mhall119 for publishing20:36
balloonsyes, the longterm home is developer.u.c.. which they've spent some time on recently ;-)20:37
mhall119thomi: cgoldberg: are you talking about API docs?20:40
thomimhall119: API, tutorial, reference...20:40
thomimhall119: what is currently at unity.ubuntu.com/autopilot20:40
balloonsmhall119, the qml emulator stuff is hosted there already, if you'll remember.. http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/devel/ubuntu-13.04/autopilot/ubuntuuitoolkit.html#module-ubuntuuitoolkit.emulators.. I'm assuming cgoldberg will theme it to match as well as the gtk emulator docs. All three can live there sanely I trust20:44
balloonsletozaf, since I have you, this works for me. https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-messages/+bug/122991320:45
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1229913 in Messaging Menu ""Clear All" button does not work im messaging tab" [Undecided,New]20:45
mhall119balloons: actually for those I would rather import them into the new API website, in which case theming shouldn't be necessary20:46
letozafballoons, :( I have a message and cannot delete it :(20:46
balloonsmhall119, ohh really? I know you've been working on it but I haven't seen the results yet20:46
letozafballoons, it-'s a missed call message and when I tap "Clear all" nothing happens20:47
balloonsletozaf, yes I tried a text and missed call.. both worked20:47
mhall119balloons: http://91.189.93.79/api/qml/sdk-1.0/20:47
mhall119balloons: also http://91.189.93.79/api/charms/1.14/20:47
mhall119we could have a similar section for Autopilot API docs20:47
mhall119it would give you versioning and search capabilities20:47
letozafballoons, how come  ? I mean ?)20:48
balloonsletozaf, let me try again :-)20:48
mhall119and, in the future, the ability to add comments, screenshots, links to tutorials, and more20:48
letozafballoons, I cannot get rid of it20:48
balloonsletozaf, I  believe you :-) I'll see if I can't make the same thing happen20:48
balloonsreboot and try again20:49
balloonsthat is, I'm rebooting and trying again20:49
letozafballoons, ok I will do the same20:49
cgoldbergmhall119, can you show me  how I push our docs to it?  right now its html/css generated by sphinx from rst.20:50
letozafballoons, image 61 is available now, just read the e-mail, maybe I should also try to update :)20:50
* cgoldberg brb's20:51
balloonsletozaf, yes I updated thinking maybe you had the new version already20:51
mhall119cgoldberg: you'll need to write an importer script20:52
balloonsnope still works here :-020:52
mhall119cgoldberg: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~api-website-devs/ubuntu-api-website/trunk/files/head:/developer_network/apidocs/management/commands/ has the two I made, one for importing qdoc and one for importing simple juju doc files20:52
letozafballoons, after reboot the message is gone! I did not even tap "clear all" it had just disappeared20:52
balloonsweird..20:52
letozafballoons, I will try to send myself another message... let's see what happens20:53
letozafballoons, so I had 3 messages, tapping on clear all cleard 2 of the 3 I had20:56
letozafballoons, still got one20:56
letozafballoons, the one that still is there is a missed call message20:56
letozafballoons, I will reboot now20:56
balloonsright, so something with missed calls don;t disappear for you.. interesting20:57
letozafballoons, after reboot I will upgrade20:58
letozafballoons, gone! the third message is gone after reboot20:58
letozafballoons, I will upgrade20:58
balloonswild, we should have someone else try as well20:58
letozafballoons, maybe after upgrade the problem will be gone21:01
letozafballoons, nooo can't believe it21:03
letozafballoons, after upgrade, had 3 messages, tapped "clear all" two have gone and one is still there21:04
letozafballoons, let's reboot21:04
* balloons rattles head21:04
letozafballoons, :)21:04
balloonsom26er, does the clear all button work for you in the messaging menu or no?21:05
balloonsom26er, I can't confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-messages/+bug/122991321:05
om26erballoons, it works sometimes it does not the others, depends on the type of the notification it seems21:05
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1229913 in Messaging Menu ""Clear All" button does not work im messaging tab" [Undecided,New]21:05
letozafballoons, om26er only a missed call message remains for me21:06
om26erthat21:06
letozafballoons, after reboot the message is gone!21:07
letozafletozaf, lol21:07
om26erletozaf, I am trying to confirm the issue21:07
balloonsok, so we can confirm the bug with the note it will randomly not go away for some..21:08
om26erI know one of those issues exists21:08
letozafom26er, ok21:09
letozafwow it's late, going to bed, 'night21:17
cgoldbergmhall119, hey.. looking at those importer scripts.. got a sec?21:24
elopioback21:26
mhall119cgoldberg: sure do21:44
cgoldbergmhall119, so those are specific hooks for qdoc and whatever juju is using?  what format does the original doc have to be in for uploading?21:44
mhall119cgoldberg: it needs to be in HTML21:45
mhall119cgoldberg: both scripts just take a chunk of pre-generated HTML (without header or footer) and puts that into a large text field21:46
mhall119it then assembles that into the final page with header and footer using Django templates21:46
cgoldbergmhall119, ok.  we currently write it in restructuredText, which I can convert to html.21:46
mhall119cgoldberg: that's fine, the qdoc stuff has to be processed into html before importing too21:46
cgoldberggotcha.  and that includes css?  do I need to tweak any tags in my html or upload custom css?21:46
mhall119cgoldberg: no custom css, it'll use the site's css, which uses tags like <h3> and <p> and <ul><li>, not specific class names21:47
mhall119as long as you don't go overly fancy with your html, it should be fine21:47
mhall119so, don't do a bunch of <div> with css layouting21:48
cgoldbergmhall119, hmm.. it should work... but sphinx uses some funky divs to create a sidebar and stuff21:48
cgoldbergmhall119, yea.. I'll need to make it flatter and less formatted21:48
mhall119cgoldberg: can you make it leave out sidebars?21:48
cgoldbergmhall119, yes21:48
mhall119if not, the import can strip it out, we have to strip out headers  and footers from the generated qdocs21:49
cgoldbergmhall119, what about code highlighting?  we have a lot of snippets of stylized python in the docs21:49
mhall119it won't do that21:50
mhall119not yet anyway21:50
mhall119maybe in a future iteration21:50
mhall119just use <code> and <pre>21:50
mhall119FYI, the content used to populate juju docs is here: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mhall119/ubuntu-api-website/juju-api/files21:50
mhall119since they didn't have any way to generate it from source, we just put some html together in files21:51
cgoldbergmhall119, ok cool.. i think I know what I need to do.. I'll ping you once I get a stripped down html version ready21:52
mhall119cgoldberg: awesome!21:52
cgoldbergmhall119, btw, adding pygments support for syntax highlighting *would* rock21:52
mhall119cgoldberg: patches welcome ;)21:52
cgoldberg;)21:53

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