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JamesTaitGood morning all, happy Punctuation Day! :-D08:32
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vinay_hello any ubuntu one admins out here? i need a urgent help16:57
vinay_hello?16:58
vinay_ any admins please speak to me! i had lost my important file on ubuntu one cloud. i need to recover them16:59
vinay_hello!16:59
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vinay_hello ubuntu one admins? please reply me. i need to recover my very important file17:00
vinay_ello ubuntu one admins? please reply me. i need to recover my very important file17:01
vinay_Hello ubuntu one admins? please reply me. i need to recover my very important file17:01
dobeyplease don't spam the channel17:03
dobeyit is very rude17:03
beunovinay_, sure, give us a minute, we'll fix that for you17:04
vinay_beuno thanks17:05
la_juyishi vinay_17:05
beunovinay_, la_juyis here can help you17:05
vinay_la_juyis: hi17:05
la_juyisvinay_, how can i help? :)17:06
vinay_la_juyis: i had a some important file on ubuntu one cloud. its auto deleted, i need it to recover that17:06
vinay_la_juyis: can i get my lost file back?17:07
la_juyisvinay_, can i please have the  email address you use to login?17:08
la_juyisvinay_, we can certainly try :)17:08
vinay_la_juyis: my email address is vinaydanaraddi@gmail.com17:08
la_juyisvinay_, ok, give me a moment please17:08
vinay_la_juyis: you need any details ?17:10
la_juyisvinay_, i was giving more information through PMs, but: we don't currently have a way to choose just on file17:11
la_juyisvinay_, i'll try to undo all the deletions17:11
la_juyisvinay_, so it might take a while17:11
vinay_la_juyis: the file i lost is "vinay" its a signature file, under the "Android/key" folder17:12
vinay_la_juyis: i can get the file back right?17:12
beunovinay_, yeah, so la_juyis is triggering a task that will recover all your deleted files for the pat 4 months17:13
beunothey'll all go into a folder17:13
beunoand you can pick and choose what to keep, delete, etc17:14
la_juyisvinay_, under normal circumstances, if the file was deleted, it will be recovered and put under a folder that says something like "Recovered- and a date"17:14
la_juyisit will recover all the files deleted17:14
la_juyisvinay_, so you might need to get rid of the ones you don't want17:14
vinay_<beuno> when can i except those files to appear in my account? , i mean time required for the recovery?17:14
beunovinay_, 10-15 minutes, I'd expect17:15
beunomaybe sooner17:15
vinay_la_juyis: ubuntu one has that bug.! you know i have not deleted those files and its all autodone!17:15
beunovinay_, well, there's a few different reasons why it may of gotten deleted17:16
beunomost likely is that the files were mounted on a partition that went away at some point17:16
vinay_la_juyis: the files i need is still unseen17:18
la_juyisvinay_, let me check if the recover finished17:18
dobey10-15 *minutes*, not seconds17:18
beunovinay_, it will appear in the website, not in your computer17:19
vinay_i am checking the website <beuno>17:20
beunocool17:20
vinay_la_juyis: did it finish up?17:20
beunovinay_, no17:20
beunotake a break, come back in 15 minutes17:20
la_juyisvinay_, i haven't received the mail saying it finished yet :)17:20
beunoit'll be fine17:20
la_juyisvinay_, i can let you know when it arrives by sending an email :)17:20
vinay_la_juyis: sorry for the urgency , but i wast almost lost hope of the recovery because my deadlines are appearing17:21
beunovinay_, we understand, we just can't rush things anymore than that17:21
la_juyisvinay_, no problem, the process was already started. when it's finished, i'll let you know :)17:22
vinay_la_juyis: thank you :) , i will take a 15 - 30 min break and return :)17:22
la_juyis^^17:22
vinay_la_juyis: inform me when it is over ^_^17:30
la_juyisvinay_, sure :)17:34
vinay_la_juyis: can i know the status?17:45
la_juyisvinay_, i haven't received an email yet.17:46
vinay_la_juyis: okay i will extend my break :)17:47
la_juyis:)17:47
la_juyisvinay_, i haven't received any email yet, but the amount of storage used is not growing anymore, so I guess it finished18:01
vinay_la_juyis: lemme check the files now18:02
vinay_la_juyis: my important files is still missing :(18:02
la_juyisvinay_, you only had it in the cloud? not synced anywhere?18:03
beunovinay_, could it of been renamed?18:03
vinay_i had that file sepeartly under a folder named key18:03
vinay_the key file was located in Android folder18:04
vinay_only Android project folder is visible18:04
vinay_september 24th i ahd downloaded that file from the cloud manually without syncing18:06
la_juyisvinay_, did you try looking for it in your Trash ?18:06
vinay_i neva trashed those la_juyis18:06
vinay_and also i dint sync it18:06
la_juyisvinay_, there's usually a hidden folder .Trashxxxx in sd cards / internal storage18:07
vinay_la_juyis: i had put that to cloud because my harddisk was dying. now my harddisk is newone and installed a fresh copy of ubuntu18:07
la_juyisvinay_, so, no android device?18:08
vinay_la_juyis:according to my memory i even not synced to mobile18:09
la_juyisi'd still go and check just in case. if you downloaded the file you might still have it somewhere in your hard disk.18:09
vinay_la_juyis:my last activity was sep 24th18:09
vinay_the file was downloaded to my dying hardisk18:09
vinay_la_juyis: even now some of the files are missing in recovery folder18:11
la_juyisvinay_, yes, not every file is recoverable18:12
la_juyisvinay_, for example, files deleted more than 60 days ago may not be there anymore18:12
vinay_how the my important file then? :(18:12
beunovinay_, you could file a support request, and someone could try and dig into the database manually, look in backups18:13
beunoit'll take a little while though18:13
vinay_la_juyis: i have seen the file and downloaded it to my PC on 24th sep not even more than 40days from that day18:14
vinay_beuno : i have registered for the support request and mailed them many times but not a single reply!18:14
beunovinay_, when was this?18:15
beunowhen did you file the support request/18:15
beuno?18:15
vinay_i am registering and trying that for past 3 days18:15
vinay_beuno : i even called the cannonical london office! but the same no reply no proper support!18:16
la_juyisbeuno, U1 queue has more delay :/18:17
la_juyisvinay_, jsut to be clear, sept 24 is today, right?18:17
vinay_sorry18:18
vinay_it was about a its not sep 24th18:18
vinay_8/15/2013 , the exact date18:19
la_juyisvinay_, i'm sorry about that :/18:20
la_juyisvinay_, we are a bit overloaded with U1 requests and are trying to catch up with those18:20
vinay_la_juyis: why sorry?18:21
vinay_<la_juyis> : cant we recover my file?18:21
vinay_<la_juyis> : ??18:23
la_juyisvinay_, sorry for not being able to get back to you before now.18:24
vinay_cant i get my files back? <la_juyis>18:24
beunovinay_, so18:24
la_juyisvinay_, about your file, i guess that as beuno says, we might be able to recover it digging into backups, but can't really promise that18:24
beunoif the automatic file recovery didn't have the file you ned18:24
beuno*need18:24
beunoyou'll have to wait until la_juyis can get an engineer to dig through the database and backups18:25
beunomake sure you provide her with all the details18:25
beunofile name, path, dates, etc18:25
beunoit could take a week or two until someone's available18:25
vinay_can any one give me a email address so that i can contact for support? i am totaly lost !18:25
beunovinay_, you said you already filed the support request?18:26
vinay_yes i filed a report18:26
beunola_juyis, can you search the queue and confirm it's there?18:26
vinay_Your request has been assigned a number of: Ubuntu One #38658. If you have additional information you'd like to provide us with about this request, simply reply to this email.18:26
vinay_bueno : this was the qutoreply18:26
vinay_autoreply*18:26
beunook18:27
beunovinay_, and did you provide all the information in that ticket?18:27
vinay_thast was done a 2 days back!18:27
vinay_beuno : Your request has been assigned a number of: Ubuntu One #38763. If you have additional information you'd like to provide us with about this request, simply reply to this email.18:27
beunovinay_, yes, we don18:27
* la_juyis searching for the issue18:27
beunovinay_, and did you provide all the information in that ticket?18:28
vinay_I had provided! all info in this ticket no #38763. and also i ahve given necessary info in all tickets i filed18:29
la_juyisvinay_, so folder name keystore, file name "vinay", right?18:29
beunovinay_, ok, so la_juyis has this now, it may take a few weeks until she can get an engineer to look into it18:30
vinay_folder name is Key or Androidkey not sure any one with these18:30
vinay_and with in that folder a single file named "vinay" s signature files is there18:30
vinay_few weeks ? that would harm me a lor beuno :(18:31
vinay_lot*18:31
beunovinay_, my guess is that if the hard drive was failing, it probably reported the file deleted or moved at some point18:31
beunoand since the service is "sync" and not "backup", it synced the state18:32
vinay_but i had no sync with the PC at that moment18:32
vinay_i manually downloaded that key from ubuntu one18:32
beunovinay_, well, if it's not there anymore, some device did indeed sync18:33
vinay_i had a sync with that single device18:33
vinay_not even my Android Phone18:34
beunovinay_, I understand that you may of not intentionally synced18:34
beunosomething did, though18:34
vinay_its a done auto ! , i wondering how that can happen?18:35
beunono idea what you mean by that18:35
beunobut, we'll have an engineer try and dig it up, see if they can find it and recover it manually18:35
beunobut as I said, it may take a while18:35
vinay_a while ? should not reach weeks or months!18:36
vinay_because we need that key for file for our Android Apps!18:36
vinay_ because we need that key file for our Android Apps!*18:38
la_juyisvinay_, we'll try to do our best18:38
vinay_juyis : can i expect my file at the end of this month>18:39
vinay_?18:39
beunovinay_, I don't know, as I said, engineering time for support request is scarce and unpredictable18:41
beunoso no guarantees18:41
beunowe understand the urgency18:41
beunoso we'll try our best18:41
VINAY__beuno : any other solution?18:46
dobeygenerate a new key18:46
VINAY__generating a new key is not a small thing or easy task. i had a inapp billings18:47
beunoVINAY__, right. So we'll try and get that for you as fast as possible, but I can't guarantee a time frame, I'm sorry18:48
VINAY__beuno : okay. any other info you need from me?18:48
dobeyyou should never store a private key in a file sharing service anyway. keep it on a usb key fob and keep it secure.18:49
beunoVINAY__, no, I think that should be enough for us to find it. If there's anything else we need we'll email you18:49
VINAY__will be waiting for my file. beuno18:49
VINAY__dobey : i know its my fault. but how the files got disaapeared!?18:50
dobeyi don't know. i can't tell you that, since i don't have any data about it, beyond the fact that it's apparently gone18:51
dobeybut ubuntu one file sync is not a backup service18:51
dobeyit is a file sync service. if you delete a file somewhere on a computer that is synchronizing with u1, it will be deleted on the server, and all other synchronzing computers, as well18:52
VINAY__i had kept there for a while because i had to replace my dying harddisk18:52
dobeywell, if your hard disk was going bad, then that's likely the cause. and you should be aware that even if the file can be recovered, it might not be valid, as if your disk was going bad, the file my have been corrupted as well, and then uploaded to the server as a change to the file, before it had been deleted18:54
dobeydid you ever look in the trash folder on your computer to see if it was in there?18:55
beunoVINAY__, if you replaced the hard disk, and set up Ubuntu One again, it will notice the file is no longer there and delete it, for example18:56
beunothere are many ways it could of gotten deleted18:56
VINAY__beuno, when my new haddisk was there i installed a fresh copy of ubuntu but dint connect to ubuntu sync18:56

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