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GridCubeClownswor, if you are afraid of installing anything you can try a live session, grab a pendrive and place the install iso there, you can boot from it and use it for almost everything, it will be slower than a real install but you will learn a lot00:01
Clownswori tried to install it, it would show the Loading thing, then it would go to a black screen and say unable to find a medium containing a live file system00:03
GridCubeClownswor, is your computer relatively new?00:17
GridCubei mean if it has an uefi instead of a bios00:17
ClownsworUhh, its kinda new, i mean like 2 years old i guess is OLD in computer years00:33
ClownsworI downloaded the 13.04 Raring Ringtail Version, should i have downloaded a different one?00:33
ClownsworHow do you message people? GridCube was helping me but then he stopped typing =//00:51
XRS1 /msg nickname00:55
GridCubeClownswor, you type their name as you just did to hilight them and bring back to your attention00:55
XRS1^00:55
XRS1thats a much better idea00:56
GridCubealso do no /msg someone without asking first, to many is considered rather rude00:56
GridCubeClownswor, its not that old, try to figure out if you have a bios or a uefi, its rather important to fix boot issues00:56
GridCubeif you have uefi you should read this00:57
GridCube!uefi00:57
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI00:57
XRS1or as i was saying earlier, its likely an issue with the live USB, you should check the md5sum and create a new one (without persistence)00:57
ClownsworWell, i had windows 7 on it, But it fucked up so im trying to reinstall. and you mean an issue with like the USB drive itself? Should i try to plug it into another port?00:58
GridCubeif its not uefi but a proper bios see that when you installed it didnt choose an usb as first boot media, that sometimes happen00:58
GridCube!lenguage | also Clownswor00:58
ClownsworWell, i have the Ubuntu .iso on a USB i used Yumi to put it on00:58
GridCube!language | also Clownswor00:58
ubottualso Clownswor: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.00:58
XRS1stepping back, how far did you get? did you make the USB and try to boot, get a boot message, then it failed?00:58
ClownsworSorry about that, I plug it into it, it lets me boot ubuntu, It does the little loading thingy, then goes to a black screen saying something failed00:59
ClownsworTho, the first time i did it, it gave me the option to try or just install it. i Chose to just give it a shot, then it did the black screen thing again, I havent been able to get it back to the options to choose yet01:00
ClownsworIm not really good with computers when it comes to code =/ I just want my desktop to Open up so i can play my one game that runs on linux and Learn a little bit at a time. Im currently on my laptop01:00
XRS1it didnt get created right. the ISO could be slightly corrupt, or there could have been some kind of hiccup during the USB "burn". try verifying the ISO matches the md5sum and create a new live USB (do not create any persistent space)01:01
XRS1if you downloaded the ISO as a torrent, use the torrent app to "force check"01:02
ClownsworI downloaded it stright from the website. So idk how to check it. I tried to use the newest form of Yumi.exe but i couldnt even get it to run so i had to download a older version to even put the iso onto my flash drive. How do i verify that the iso matches the Md5sum(?)01:04
XRS1ah okay01:04
XRS1download and install lili: http://linuxliveusb.com/01:05
XRS1use that in windows to make the USB01:05
XRS1much more reliable01:05
Clownsworok im downloading that. Will it erase the iso i already added?01:06
ClownsworI downloaded it, But its Not even opening to run? Its doing the same thing that the Newest Yumi.exe was doing01:06
XRS1i have no idea what you just said01:07
ClownsworI downloaded the Linuxliveusb.exe01:07
ClownsworIt wont open.01:07
ClownsworOr run01:07
XRS1are you in linux or windows?01:07
ClownsworWindoes01:07
cfhowlettClownswor, .exe is a windows app ...01:07
Clownsworwindows*01:07
XRS1right click and select run as admin01:08
ClownsworIm on windows on my laptop, Which is what im on now. Trying to put linux onto my desktop. I did that, then it told me i didnt have permission to run it as admin, Tho im admin on this computer...01:09
XRS1sounds like there is something wrong with your windows box01:09
XRS1just burn it to DVD01:09
XRS1double clicking on the file in windows 7 should open the burn image wizard01:10
XRS1the ISO file*01:10
ClownsworI dont have a disk, I was gonna use a USB01:10
XRS1but something is wrong with windows that it either is not downloading files correctly, or not letting you open the file you just downloaded01:10
cfhowlettXRS1, or you're not in admin windows account01:11
XRS1but he cant run as admin01:11
ClownsworI clicked to change account types, and it is telling me im in a admin account01:11
XRS1that should work even as guest01:11
ClownsworIm the only account on this laptop01:11
cfhowlettXRS1, I have 2 accounts: 1 admin, 1 not.  thus he's in the wrong account01:11
cfhowlett... OK01:11
cfhowlettClownswor, wrong password???01:11
ClownsworNo, i am admin on my computer.01:14
XRS1you shouldnt be01:15
cfhowlett?01:15
XRS1shouldnt always run as admin. gives bad stuff an easy in01:15
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ClownsworIt let me open the Yumi.exe i downloaded from a torrent, But wont let me open things from legit websites01:18
XRS1try downloading it again01:18
cfhowlettClownswor, for windows support, ask #windows01:18
XRS1##windows01:19
ClownsworI tried downloading it again, I clicked on it, it said "opening" then nothing happened01:19
XRS1type /join ##windows01:19
GridCubeClownswor, if you have the iso you can use unetbootin to make the usb aswell01:20
ClownsworWell, i have the Iso, i used YUMI-0.0.8.3 to create it, It said that it was created then i ran into them errors01:20
cfhowlettClownswor, what should we tell you?  You said it's a windows error.  Ask ##windows!01:22
cfhowlettClownswor, OR try unetbootin01:22
ClownsworIm currently in windows. I will be back01:22
ClownsworIm looking at the unetbootin now01:22
ClownsworOK, i got that program to open up01:23
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jonzencan any1 tell me how to perm disable dpms on 13.0403:02
jonzenscreen blanking is really annoying   would be greatful for any cure to disable it03:05
XRS1launcher menu -> settings -> session & startup -> application autostart -> remove checkmark for power management03:43
xubuntu633Hello!04:53
XRS1hi04:53
xubuntu633skeak portuguese?04:54
XRS1!br04:54
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.04:54
xubuntu633thank you04:55
XRS1your welcome04:55
MarkusDBXIn a livecd session, what is the password for the loggedin user? username:xubuntu08:04
XRS1username ubuntu08:06
XRS1no password08:06
cfhowlettMarkusDBX, no password so far as I know ... where are you seeing a password request.08:06
cfhowlett?08:06
Sysiare you using liveusb? if yes, how did you crate it?08:07
Sysi*create08:07
XRS1username is ubuntu and there is no password08:07
linuxfanhi there!08:12
linuxfanis about nvidia drivers ? is there bug in xubuntu?08:13
knomelinuxfan, sorry, i'm not sure what you are asking. can you be a bit more elaborate, or alternatively tell us what's your native language so we can guide you to a channel on that language08:14
linuxfanwell i install xubuntu and when i  apt-get install nvidia current and restart my resolution goes 600x.......08:16
linuxfanand because i didnt know how to fix it i reinstall :( and now im scare to  install it again08:16
well_laid_lawn!nvidia08:16
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto08:16
well_laid_lawnlinuxfan:  ↑↑08:17
XRS1where are the default desktop backgrounds stored? (cant find them in /usr/share/backgrounds/)08:18
linuxfanThanks i will try it hope i can still ask if i have problem !08:18
elfyXRS1: /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/08:21
XRS1thanks08:21
Arthur_Dhi, I am using Xubuntu 12.04, and have a keyboard with multimedia keys. The keys work fine; however only when the corresponding window is in focus, which kinda makes the whole thing rather pointless. Any ideas?08:34
well_laid_lawnArthur_D:  having an application respond to keypresses is different to having a window manager respond to the same keypresses08:37
well_laid_lawnyou can configure the window manager to do the same things as the app if you want08:38
Arthur_Dyeah, that would be handy. How do I go about doing that?08:39
well_laid_lawnwhen the app isn't in focus it's another app or the window manager that responds to the keypresses08:39
well_laid_lawnthere's a keyboard shortcut entry in system settings08:40
Arthur_Dyes, I am just not sure what command to run when the key is pressed08:41
well_laid_lawnwell, that would depend on what you want to do - what app are you running where you need to do stuff ?08:43
Arthur_DSpotify08:43
cfhowlettArthur_D, I suspect spotify is overriding the default system settings.  normally, multimedia keys no matter the window in focus.08:44
Arthur_Dhmm08:44
cfhowlett"keys work no matter  ..."08:44
Arthur_DI see no option in Spotify preferences to turn on/off that behaviour08:44
XRS1i hate it when that happens08:45
well_laid_lawnI'm not familiar with it - it might not accept external commands, maybe check the man page for it - things like audio volume are easy to add shortcuts for08:45
Arthur_Dright, I'll try searching some more08:46
elfyArthur_D: there is a gnome2/3 tool for the spotify client - you might be able to play with that - but I'd not be at all sure - http://noswap.com/projects/spotify-gnome08:59
cinuuhi09:00
Arthur_Dyeah I found it at Github too09:00
Arthur_Dnot tried it yet, but seems it may be what I'm looking for09:00
antithesisMy laptop's internal speakers work, but my headphones don't. Multiple resources say I have to edit my /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base config but I need to find my modelname for that. How do I find it?09:03
Arthur_Dantithesis, try sudo lshw -class multimedia09:15
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Arthur_Dhmm spotify-gnome doesn't seem to do the trick09:22
Arthur_Dseems like XFCE uses their own daemon09:24
elfyI have the same issue when I have a new look at amarok now and again09:26
Arthur_Dquite annoying09:27
antithesisArthur_D, I think I got the right modelname, but that whole solution doesn't work. How do I properly troubleshoot this?09:35
Arthur_Dgood question09:36
MalinusHello, mind I'm new to linux etc. So I was looking at different processes running, and found "zeitgeist". After doing some resaerch it's apperently some software that is actually a keylogger. I removed it instantly, since it looked like catfish, is the only thing using it. Am I pranoid?09:42
Malinus*since catfish was depending on it, and I never used it anyway09:42
Arthur_Dzeitgeist can be controlled and is a part of Ubuntu09:44
Arthur_Dso it's not a rogue keylogger, but if you don't want the features it can provide it doesn't hurt to remove it either09:44
Arthur_Delfy: I found a solution in the case of Spotify - maybe something similar can work for Amarok09:46
elfyoh I'd not worry about that - I try it now and again and then stop again :)09:46
Arthur_Dalright :)09:46
antithesisWait, zeitgeist is a keylogger?09:47
elfythanks though :)09:47
antithesisI've been looking for one09:47
MalinusArthur_D, it's not rogue but I still didn't feel good about having a program logging ALL my activity. And also I wish I knew about it, without having to browse trough my processes etc.09:47
Arthur_Dsure, though it will not send your info other than to local applications as far as I'm aware09:49
elfyhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/180990/what-is-zeitgeist-used-for09:50
MalinusArthur_D, I think it should be removed from xubuntu, or at least you should be warned. I know my browser collects browser history, I know skype logs my chats. I wish I knew there were a default-installed program that logged all those things too.09:54
Arthur_Dfair enough, I too think it could be more clearly communicated or exist as an opt-in09:56
antithesisWhere can I access all these logs?09:58
antithesisIt sounds like a nice feature09:58
Arthur_Dzeitgeist-daemon --log-file seems like an option it's worth looking into09:59
jonzenhow do i perm disable dpms  specifically the screen blanking11:48
jonzeni cannot be the only person that is having this problem   i try to watch a video and the screen gos blank in 10 min11:49
jonzeni know how to shut it down with xset commands  but i want it gone from my computer11:49
bgardnerjonzen: Put the xset commands in your /etc/rc.local11:49
torstehuI've upgraded to 13.10 and I cant shut down/reboot my computer down by using 'action menu' on the panel or the lightdm screen, is this a known bug?11:50
jonzenty bgardner11:50
jonzenhave been searching for that anwer for weeks11:51
jonzenbgardner  do i leave the exit 0 at the end11:54
bgardnerjonzen: Yes, put any commands you add above that line.11:55
jonzenty my friend  life just got better11:55
MalinusHello. could someone please pastebin their grub file? I've accidently deleted it, and now I can only launch windows.12:08
cfhowlett!grub|Malinus, just reinstall it12:10
ubottuMalinus, just reinstall it: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub212:10
cfhowlett!saucy|torstehu,12:10
ubottutorstehu,: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.12:10
Malinuscfhowlett, guess I have no choice then..12:11
cfhowlettMalinus, reinstalling grub is quite easy12:14
Arthur_Dthat's the truth, just make sure it's on the right hard drive/partition and you'll be all right12:15
Malinuscfhowlett, yeah, I need to download the whole ubuntu installation, run the live usb thing. Can't I just start xubuntu from the command line of grub?12:15
cfhowlettMalinus, depends on where the fail is.  see the link you got from #ubuntu.12:16
Malinusall the links just tells me to reinstall grub using the live CD. including the one I've found myself. I'm just wondering if I can't launch it manually using grub command-line.12:17
cfhowlettMalinus, as I said, it depends where the error code is.  but if you insist, slog through a search of grub command line.  About the time you finally get that working, you'll have had time to download a dozen ISO's or so ...12:22
Malinuscfhowlett, yeah I'm probably just going to use the live cd. I can use ubunto for that, right? No need for xubuntu?12:23
cfhowlettMalinus, correct12:23
Malinuscfhowlett, I can't quiet remember which version I have installed. Does it matter?12:27
cfhowlettMalinus, version numbers probably need to match.  12.04  ubuntu   12.04 xubuntu ...12:28
Malinuscfhowlett, how do I check which version I have, now I can't launch it?12:28
cfhowlettah yeah, that ... well, roll the dice.  you can't check what you can't boot.12:29
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Maple__Hey - how would I go about creating a btrfs partition using ubiquity? [x/post]16:06
wizarddhey hey, how I can install W7 to my Xubuntu PC without windows boot manager?16:06
wizardddual boot*16:06
wizarddI want to keep grub216:06
ObrienDavewizardd... install Win7 first then re-install Xubuntu. that will keep GRUB216:07
wizarddI know that, but is there any other way?16:07
GridCubeor install win7 then use boot-repair from a livecd to repair you grub16:08
ObrienDavethat will work16:08
wizarddwould bootable usb work also?16:08
GridCubeor install win7 to a secondary drive, while unpluggin the main grub drive, reconnect the grub drive later and do update-grub16:08
GridCubewizardd, should do16:08
GridCubewizardd, BACK UP EVERYTHING16:08
wizardd:)16:08
GridCubethings should go fine, but do back up every sensible information16:09
wizarddyeah, I will need to weight up things before I try it. I might get a second PC, with mini-itx mobo16:10
GridCubewizardd, P: you can try some usb magics if you want, you can install grub to your pendrive, install win7, then replug the pendrive that contains grub, and reinstall grub to the main drive!16:11
GridCube:D16:11
wizardd:D16:11
wizarddgotta love these USB3 ports and USB3 external hdds ;-)16:12
wizarddreally fast back ups16:12
xubuntu372the Raring Ringtail 13.04 image has 789mb, can´t burn on CD , does it boot from DVD?17:12
Unit193That or USB.17:12
xubuntu372thanx unit193! will try it17:13
Soren-ipadHi :)20:42
Soren-ipadAnyone know why i get black screen when starting xubuntu live?20:47
well_laid_lawnSoren-ipad:  you might need a kernel option for your graphics card20:53
Soren-ipadWell_laid_lawn how to fix that?21:04
well_laid_lawnSoren-ipad:  depends on the card21:05
well_laid_lawnlspci | grep -i vga   should tell21:05
bekks!nomodeset | well_laid_lawn21:05
ubottuwell_laid_lawn: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter21:05
well_laid_lawnbekks:  my os is fine thanks21:06
Soren-ipadRadeon 697021:06
well_laid_lawnSoren-ipad:  using the open source driver ?21:08
well_laid_lawn!ati21:08
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto21:08
Soren-ipadI just usel the live boot. I dont know what it uses21:09
well_laid_lawnthen try !nomodeset21:11
well_laid_lawn!nomodeset21:11
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter21:11
Soren-ipadThis seems like something i really needs to read alot about :(21:12
well_laid_lawnthe live cd should have a method obviously available to tweak boot options21:13
well_laid_lawnjust add  nomodeset  to it21:13
xubuntu524yes21:14
Soren-ipadI have no idea how to find these tweak boot options..21:16
well_laid_lawnSoren-ipad:  have a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions21:19
Soren-ipadHmm. Well, i guess ill try this another day.21:22
Soren-ipadSeems alittle to mutch for just starting up.21:22
well_laid_lawnyou press F3 at the menu and type nomodeset ...21:23
Soren-ipadOk Will try in a minute21:29
yeyemanhow do I store data with python, if it's important that the data is secure?21:31
well_laid_lawnencrypt it ?21:34
Soren-ipadWell_laid_lawn booting now :)21:40
Soren-ipadIt worked!21:41
well_laid_lawncheers21:42
well_laid_lawnbbiab21:42
c3l3r1onhello, i've deleted link from desktop to install xubuntu, where i can find it ?22:40
Unit193Menu > System   or the settings manager.22:41
c3l3r1onUnit193, gigolo/ibus/task manager .... eh don't see22:43
Poisoned_Dragontry the settings manager, like Unit193 suggested22:43
c3l3r1onPoisoned_Dragon, thx work ;]22:45
Poisoned_DragonThank Unit19322:45
Poisoned_DragonI've already installed, so I was useless. :)22:45
Unit193Saaame, knew it was in one of the two though. :P22:46
Poisoned_Dragonlol22:46
c3l3r1onUnit193, thx too22:46
Unit193Sure.22:46
c3l3r1onand next quest for you, where debian storage .deb files ?22:46
c3l3r1ondownloaded by apt-get22:47
Unit193/var/cache/apt/archives/, though you can just --reinstall22:47
Unit193apt-get install --reinstall foober, or apt-get download foober22:47
c3l3r1onthx22:48
c3l3r1on;]22:48

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