[00:01] <GridCube> Clownswor, if you are afraid of installing anything you can try a live session, grab a pendrive and place the install iso there, you can boot from it and use it for almost everything, it will be slower than a real install but you will learn a lot
[00:03] <Clownswor> i tried to install it, it would show the Loading thing, then it would go to a black screen and say unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[00:17] <GridCube> Clownswor, is your computer relatively new?
[00:17] <GridCube> i mean if it has an uefi instead of a bios
[00:33] <Clownswor> Uhh, its kinda new, i mean like 2 years old i guess is OLD in computer years
[00:33] <Clownswor> I downloaded the 13.04 Raring Ringtail Version, should i have downloaded a different one?
[00:51] <Clownswor> How do you message people? GridCube was helping me but then he stopped typing =//
[00:55] <XRS1>  /msg nickname
[00:55] <GridCube> Clownswor, you type their name as you just did to hilight them and bring back to your attention
[00:55] <XRS1> ^
[00:56] <XRS1> thats a much better idea
[00:56] <GridCube> also do no /msg someone without asking first, to many is considered rather rude
[00:56] <GridCube> Clownswor, its not that old, try to figure out if you have a bios or a uefi, its rather important to fix boot issues
[00:57] <GridCube> if you have uefi you should read this
[00:57] <GridCube> !uefi
[00:57] <XRS1> or as i was saying earlier, its likely an issue with the live USB, you should check the md5sum and create a new one (without persistence)
[00:58] <Clownswor> Well, i had windows 7 on it, But it fucked up so im trying to reinstall. and you mean an issue with like the USB drive itself? Should i try to plug it into another port?
[00:58] <GridCube> if its not uefi but a proper bios see that when you installed it didnt choose an usb as first boot media, that sometimes happen
[00:58] <GridCube> !lenguage | also Clownswor
[00:58] <Clownswor> Well, i have the Ubuntu .iso on a USB i used Yumi to put it on
[00:58] <GridCube> !language | also Clownswor
[00:58] <XRS1> stepping back, how far did you get? did you make the USB and try to boot, get a boot message, then it failed?
[00:59] <Clownswor> Sorry about that, I plug it into it, it lets me boot ubuntu, It does the little loading thingy, then goes to a black screen saying something failed
[01:00] <Clownswor> Tho, the first time i did it, it gave me the option to try or just install it. i Chose to just give it a shot, then it did the black screen thing again, I havent been able to get it back to the options to choose yet
[01:00] <Clownswor> Im not really good with computers when it comes to code =/ I just want my desktop to Open up so i can play my one game that runs on linux and Learn a little bit at a time. Im currently on my laptop
[01:01] <XRS1> it didnt get created right. the ISO could be slightly corrupt, or there could have been some kind of hiccup during the USB "burn". try verifying the ISO matches the md5sum and create a new live USB (do not create any persistent space)
[01:02] <XRS1> if you downloaded the ISO as a torrent, use the torrent app to "force check"
[01:04] <Clownswor> I downloaded it stright from the website. So idk how to check it. I tried to use the newest form of Yumi.exe but i couldnt even get it to run so i had to download a older version to even put the iso onto my flash drive. How do i verify that the iso matches the Md5sum(?)
[01:04] <XRS1> ah okay
[01:05] <XRS1> download and install lili: http://linuxliveusb.com/
[01:05] <XRS1> use that in windows to make the USB
[01:05] <XRS1> much more reliable
[01:06] <Clownswor> ok im downloading that. Will it erase the iso i already added?
[01:06] <Clownswor> I downloaded it, But its Not even opening to run? Its doing the same thing that the Newest Yumi.exe was doing
[01:07] <XRS1> i have no idea what you just said
[01:07] <Clownswor> I downloaded the Linuxliveusb.exe
[01:07] <Clownswor> It wont open.
[01:07] <Clownswor> Or run
[01:07] <XRS1> are you in linux or windows?
[01:07] <Clownswor> Windoes
[01:07] <cfhowlett> Clownswor, .exe is a windows app ...
[01:07] <Clownswor> windows*
[01:08] <XRS1> right click and select run as admin
[01:09] <Clownswor> Im on windows on my laptop, Which is what im on now. Trying to put linux onto my desktop. I did that, then it told me i didnt have permission to run it as admin, Tho im admin on this computer...
[01:09] <XRS1> sounds like there is something wrong with your windows box
[01:09] <XRS1> just burn it to DVD
[01:10] <XRS1> double clicking on the file in windows 7 should open the burn image wizard
[01:10] <XRS1> the ISO file*
[01:10] <Clownswor> I dont have a disk, I was gonna use a USB
[01:10] <XRS1> but something is wrong with windows that it either is not downloading files correctly, or not letting you open the file you just downloaded
[01:11] <cfhowlett> XRS1, or you're not in admin windows account
[01:11] <XRS1> but he cant run as admin
[01:11] <Clownswor> I clicked to change account types, and it is telling me im in a admin account
[01:11] <XRS1> that should work even as guest
[01:11] <Clownswor> Im the only account on this laptop
[01:11] <cfhowlett> XRS1, I have 2 accounts: 1 admin, 1 not.  thus he's in the wrong account
[01:11] <cfhowlett> ... OK
[01:11] <cfhowlett> Clownswor, wrong password???
[01:14] <Clownswor> No, i am admin on my computer.
[01:15] <XRS1> you shouldnt be
[01:15] <cfhowlett> ?
[01:15] <XRS1> shouldnt always run as admin. gives bad stuff an easy in
[01:18] <Clownswor> It let me open the Yumi.exe i downloaded from a torrent, But wont let me open things from legit websites
[01:18] <XRS1> try downloading it again
[01:18] <cfhowlett> Clownswor, for windows support, ask #windows
[01:19] <XRS1> ##windows
[01:19] <Clownswor> I tried downloading it again, I clicked on it, it said "opening" then nothing happened
[01:19] <XRS1> type /join ##windows
[01:20] <GridCube> Clownswor, if you have the iso you can use unetbootin to make the usb aswell
[01:20] <Clownswor> Well, i have the Iso, i used YUMI-0.0.8.3 to create it, It said that it was created then i ran into them errors
[01:22] <cfhowlett> Clownswor, what should we tell you?  You said it's a windows error.  Ask ##windows!
[01:22] <cfhowlett> Clownswor, OR try unetbootin
[01:22] <Clownswor> Im currently in windows. I will be back
[01:22] <Clownswor> Im looking at the unetbootin now
[01:23] <Clownswor> OK, i got that program to open up
[03:02] <jonzen> can any1 tell me how to perm disable dpms on 13.04
[03:05] <jonzen> screen blanking is really annoying   would be greatful for any cure to disable it
[03:43] <XRS1> launcher menu -> settings -> session & startup -> application autostart -> remove checkmark for power management
[04:53] <xubuntu633> Hello!
[04:53] <XRS1> hi
[04:54] <xubuntu633> skeak portuguese?
[04:54] <XRS1> !br
[04:55] <xubuntu633> thank you
[04:55] <XRS1> your welcome
[08:04] <MarkusDBX> In a livecd session, what is the password for the loggedin user? username:xubuntu
[08:06] <XRS1> username ubuntu
[08:06] <XRS1> no password
[08:06] <cfhowlett> MarkusDBX, no password so far as I know ... where are you seeing a password request.
[08:06] <cfhowlett> ?
[08:07] <Sysi> are you using liveusb? if yes, how did you crate it?
[08:07] <Sysi> *create
[08:07] <XRS1> username is ubuntu and there is no password
[08:12] <linuxfan> hi there!
[08:13] <linuxfan> is about nvidia drivers ? is there bug in xubuntu?
[08:14] <knome> linuxfan, sorry, i'm not sure what you are asking. can you be a bit more elaborate, or alternatively tell us what's your native language so we can guide you to a channel on that language
[08:16] <linuxfan> well i install xubuntu and when i  apt-get install nvidia current and restart my resolution goes 600x.......
[08:16] <linuxfan> and because i didnt know how to fix it i reinstall :( and now im scare to  install it again
[08:16] <well_laid_lawn> !nvidia
[08:17] <well_laid_lawn> linuxfan:  ↑↑
[08:18] <XRS1> where are the default desktop backgrounds stored? (cant find them in /usr/share/backgrounds/)
[08:18] <linuxfan> Thanks i will try it hope i can still ask if i have problem !
[08:21] <elfy> XRS1: /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/
[08:21] <XRS1> thanks
[08:34] <Arthur_D> hi, I am using Xubuntu 12.04, and have a keyboard with multimedia keys. The keys work fine; however only when the corresponding window is in focus, which kinda makes the whole thing rather pointless. Any ideas?
[08:37] <well_laid_lawn> Arthur_D:  having an application respond to keypresses is different to having a window manager respond to the same keypresses
[08:38] <well_laid_lawn> you can configure the window manager to do the same things as the app if you want
[08:39] <Arthur_D> yeah, that would be handy. How do I go about doing that?
[08:39] <well_laid_lawn> when the app isn't in focus it's another app or the window manager that responds to the keypresses
[08:40] <well_laid_lawn> there's a keyboard shortcut entry in system settings
[08:41] <Arthur_D> yes, I am just not sure what command to run when the key is pressed
[08:43] <well_laid_lawn> well, that would depend on what you want to do - what app are you running where you need to do stuff ?
[08:43] <Arthur_D> Spotify
[08:44] <cfhowlett> Arthur_D, I suspect spotify is overriding the default system settings.  normally, multimedia keys no matter the window in focus.
[08:44] <Arthur_D> hmm
[08:44] <cfhowlett> "keys work no matter  ..."
[08:44] <Arthur_D> I see no option in Spotify preferences to turn on/off that behaviour
[08:45] <XRS1> i hate it when that happens
[08:45] <well_laid_lawn> I'm not familiar with it - it might not accept external commands, maybe check the man page for it - things like audio volume are easy to add shortcuts for
[08:46] <Arthur_D> right, I'll try searching some more
[08:59] <elfy> Arthur_D: there is a gnome2/3 tool for the spotify client - you might be able to play with that - but I'd not be at all sure - http://noswap.com/projects/spotify-gnome
[09:00] <cinuu> hi
[09:00] <Arthur_D> yeah I found it at Github too
[09:00] <Arthur_D> not tried it yet, but seems it may be what I'm looking for
[09:03] <antithesis> My laptop's internal speakers work, but my headphones don't. Multiple resources say I have to edit my /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base config but I need to find my modelname for that. How do I find it?
[09:15] <Arthur_D> antithesis, try sudo lshw -class multimedia
[09:22] <Arthur_D> hmm spotify-gnome doesn't seem to do the trick
[09:24] <Arthur_D> seems like XFCE uses their own daemon
[09:26] <elfy> I have the same issue when I have a new look at amarok now and again
[09:27] <Arthur_D> quite annoying
[09:35] <antithesis> Arthur_D, I think I got the right modelname, but that whole solution doesn't work. How do I properly troubleshoot this?
[09:36] <Arthur_D> good question
[09:42] <Malinus> Hello, mind I'm new to linux etc. So I was looking at different processes running, and found "zeitgeist". After doing some resaerch it's apperently some software that is actually a keylogger. I removed it instantly, since it looked like catfish, is the only thing using it. Am I pranoid?
[09:42] <Malinus> *since catfish was depending on it, and I never used it anyway
[09:44] <Arthur_D> zeitgeist can be controlled and is a part of Ubuntu
[09:44] <Arthur_D> so it's not a rogue keylogger, but if you don't want the features it can provide it doesn't hurt to remove it either
[09:46] <Arthur_D> elfy: I found a solution in the case of Spotify - maybe something similar can work for Amarok
[09:46] <elfy> oh I'd not worry about that - I try it now and again and then stop again :)
[09:46] <Arthur_D> alright :)
[09:47] <antithesis> Wait, zeitgeist is a keylogger?
[09:47] <elfy> thanks though :)
[09:47] <antithesis> I've been looking for one
[09:47] <Malinus> Arthur_D, it's not rogue but I still didn't feel good about having a program logging ALL my activity. And also I wish I knew about it, without having to browse trough my processes etc.
[09:49] <Arthur_D> sure, though it will not send your info other than to local applications as far as I'm aware
[09:50] <elfy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/180990/what-is-zeitgeist-used-for
[09:54] <Malinus> Arthur_D, I think it should be removed from xubuntu, or at least you should be warned. I know my browser collects browser history, I know skype logs my chats. I wish I knew there were a default-installed program that logged all those things too.
[09:56] <Arthur_D> fair enough, I too think it could be more clearly communicated or exist as an opt-in
[09:58] <antithesis> Where can I access all these logs?
[09:58] <antithesis> It sounds like a nice feature
[09:59] <Arthur_D> zeitgeist-daemon --log-file seems like an option it's worth looking into
[11:48] <jonzen> how do i perm disable dpms  specifically the screen blanking
[11:49] <jonzen> i cannot be the only person that is having this problem   i try to watch a video and the screen gos blank in 10 min
[11:49] <jonzen> i know how to shut it down with xset commands  but i want it gone from my computer
[11:49] <bgardner> jonzen: Put the xset commands in your /etc/rc.local
[11:50] <torstehu> I've upgraded to 13.10 and I cant shut down/reboot my computer down by using 'action menu' on the panel or the lightdm screen, is this a known bug?
[11:50] <jonzen> ty bgardner
[11:51] <jonzen> have been searching for that anwer for weeks
[11:54] <jonzen> bgardner  do i leave the exit 0 at the end
[11:55] <bgardner> jonzen: Yes, put any commands you add above that line.
[11:55] <jonzen> ty my friend  life just got better
[12:08] <Malinus> Hello. could someone please pastebin their grub file? I've accidently deleted it, and now I can only launch windows.
[12:10] <cfhowlett> !grub|Malinus, just reinstall it
[12:10] <cfhowlett> !saucy|torstehu,
[12:11] <Malinus> cfhowlett, guess I have no choice then..
[12:14] <cfhowlett> Malinus, reinstalling grub is quite easy
[12:15] <Arthur_D> that's the truth, just make sure it's on the right hard drive/partition and you'll be all right
[12:15] <Malinus> cfhowlett, yeah, I need to download the whole ubuntu installation, run the live usb thing. Can't I just start xubuntu from the command line of grub?
[12:16] <cfhowlett> Malinus, depends on where the fail is.  see the link you got from #ubuntu.
[12:17] <Malinus> all the links just tells me to reinstall grub using the live CD. including the one I've found myself. I'm just wondering if I can't launch it manually using grub command-line.
[12:22] <cfhowlett> Malinus, as I said, it depends where the error code is.  but if you insist, slog through a search of grub command line.  About the time you finally get that working, you'll have had time to download a dozen ISO's or so ...
[12:23] <Malinus> cfhowlett, yeah I'm probably just going to use the live cd. I can use ubunto for that, right? No need for xubuntu?
[12:23] <cfhowlett> Malinus, correct
[12:27] <Malinus> cfhowlett, I can't quiet remember which version I have installed. Does it matter?
[12:28] <cfhowlett> Malinus, version numbers probably need to match.  12.04  ubuntu   12.04 xubuntu ...
[12:28] <Malinus> cfhowlett, how do I check which version I have, now I can't launch it?
[12:29] <cfhowlett> ah yeah, that ... well, roll the dice.  you can't check what you can't boot.
[16:06] <Maple__> Hey - how would I go about creating a btrfs partition using ubiquity? [x/post]
[16:06] <wizardd> hey hey, how I can install W7 to my Xubuntu PC without windows boot manager?
[16:06] <wizardd> dual boot*
[16:06] <wizardd> I want to keep grub2
[16:07] <ObrienDave> wizardd... install Win7 first then re-install Xubuntu. that will keep GRUB2
[16:07] <wizardd> I know that, but is there any other way?
[16:08] <GridCube> or install win7 then use boot-repair from a livecd to repair you grub
[16:08] <ObrienDave> that will work
[16:08] <wizardd> would bootable usb work also?
[16:08] <GridCube> or install win7 to a secondary drive, while unpluggin the main grub drive, reconnect the grub drive later and do update-grub
[16:08] <GridCube> wizardd, should do
[16:08] <GridCube> wizardd, BACK UP EVERYTHING
[16:08] <wizardd> :)
[16:09] <GridCube> things should go fine, but do back up every sensible information
[16:10] <wizardd> yeah, I will need to weight up things before I try it. I might get a second PC, with mini-itx mobo
[16:11] <GridCube> wizardd, P: you can try some usb magics if you want, you can install grub to your pendrive, install win7, then replug the pendrive that contains grub, and reinstall grub to the main drive!
[16:11] <GridCube> :D
[16:11] <wizardd> :D
[16:12] <wizardd> gotta love these USB3 ports and USB3 external hdds ;-)
[16:12] <wizardd> really fast back ups
[17:12] <xubuntu372> the Raring Ringtail 13.04 image has 789mb, can´t burn on CD , does it boot from DVD?
[17:12] <Unit193> That or USB.
[17:13] <xubuntu372> thanx unit193! will try it
[20:42] <Soren-ipad> Hi :)
[20:47] <Soren-ipad> Anyone know why i get black screen when starting xubuntu live?
[20:53] <well_laid_lawn> Soren-ipad:  you might need a kernel option for your graphics card
[21:04] <Soren-ipad> Well_laid_lawn how to fix that?
[21:05] <well_laid_lawn> Soren-ipad:  depends on the card
[21:05] <well_laid_lawn> lspci | grep -i vga   should tell
[21:05] <bekks> !nomodeset | well_laid_lawn
[21:06] <well_laid_lawn> bekks:  my os is fine thanks
[21:06] <Soren-ipad> Radeon 6970
[21:08] <well_laid_lawn> Soren-ipad:  using the open source driver ?
[21:08] <well_laid_lawn> !ati
[21:09] <Soren-ipad> I just usel the live boot. I dont know what it uses
[21:11] <well_laid_lawn> then try !nomodeset
[21:11] <well_laid_lawn> !nomodeset
[21:12] <Soren-ipad> This seems like something i really needs to read alot about :(
[21:13] <well_laid_lawn> the live cd should have a method obviously available to tweak boot options
[21:13] <well_laid_lawn> just add  nomodeset  to it
[21:14] <xubuntu524> yes
[21:16] <Soren-ipad> I have no idea how to find these tweak boot options..
[21:19] <well_laid_lawn> Soren-ipad:  have a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[21:22] <Soren-ipad> Hmm. Well, i guess ill try this another day.
[21:22] <Soren-ipad> Seems alittle to mutch for just starting up.
[21:23] <well_laid_lawn> you press F3 at the menu and type nomodeset ...
[21:29] <Soren-ipad> Ok Will try in a minute
[21:31] <yeyeman> how do I store data with python, if it's important that the data is secure?
[21:34] <well_laid_lawn> encrypt it ?
[21:40] <Soren-ipad> Well_laid_lawn booting now :)
[21:41] <Soren-ipad> It worked!
[21:42] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[21:42] <well_laid_lawn> bbiab
[22:40] <c3l3r1on> hello, i've deleted link from desktop to install xubuntu, where i can find it ?
[22:41] <Unit193> Menu > System   or the settings manager.
[22:43] <c3l3r1on> Unit193, gigolo/ibus/task manager .... eh don't see
[22:43] <Poisoned_Dragon> try the settings manager, like Unit193 suggested
[22:45] <c3l3r1on> Poisoned_Dragon, thx work ;]
[22:45] <Poisoned_Dragon> Thank Unit193
[22:45] <Poisoned_Dragon> I've already installed, so I was useless. :)
[22:46] <Unit193> Saaame, knew it was in one of the two though. :P
[22:46] <Poisoned_Dragon> lol
[22:46] <c3l3r1on> Unit193, thx too
[22:46] <Unit193> Sure.
[22:46] <c3l3r1on> and next quest for you, where debian storage .deb files ?
[22:47] <c3l3r1on> downloaded by apt-get
[22:47] <Unit193> /var/cache/apt/archives/, though you can just --reinstall
[22:47] <Unit193> apt-get install --reinstall foober, or apt-get download foober
[22:48] <c3l3r1on> thx
[22:48] <c3l3r1on> ;]