[05:24] <dpm> good morning everyone
[05:27] <timp> good morning david
[05:30] <dpm> hey, good morning timp :)
[05:31] <dpm> bzoltan, when you guys have got a minute, could you check if bug 1229571 is indeed a bug in the toolkit?
[05:31] <dpm> hm, bug bot died?
[05:31] <dpm> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/1229571
[05:47] <mihir_> good Morning :)
[05:57] <timp> dpm: it might be a UITK bug. I think I won't manage to check in detail today if it really is, and tomorrow my holidays start
[05:57] <timp> dpm: but I left a comment on the bug report
[06:26] <dpm> thanks timp
[07:01] <dholbach> good morning
[07:49] <nik90|Office> dpm: regarding your question, the clock app uses geonames.org which provides an extensive set of API for this purpose
[07:52] <dpm> nik90|Office, thanks. I know m-b-o was looking into using the Mapquest API (http://developer.mapquest.com/web/products/open/geocoding-service) - did you have a look at it when you picked the API to use for city locations? Do you know if it offers any advantages over geonames.org?
[07:54] <nik90|Office> dpm: I did not know about mapquest when I chose geonames.org. However on geoname's website, they stated that their services are (or was) being used by the ubuntu installer
[07:54] <nik90|Office> dpm: and after looking through their webservices it suited the needs of the clock app
[07:54] <dpm> yeah, I think it still is, and also for tthe time indicator
[07:55] <nik90|Office> dpm: that said, if mapquest seems better, switching to it should be easy enough
[07:55] <m-b-o> dpm, nik90|Office: Hi, did I missed something? :)
[07:56] <dpm> hi m-b-o, morning!
[07:56] <dpm> we were just talking with nik90|Office about using geonames.org vs. mapquest
[07:56] <nik90|Office> m-b-o: dpm told me you are looking into mapquest API and wanted to know if I looked at it when I chose geonames.org for the clock app
[07:56] <nik90|Office> m-b-o: and good morning :)
[07:56] <dpm> nik90|Office, I don't know yet, trying to get a feel on whether it gives us data we need or not. Do you get the country names for the cities from geonames.org as well? Does it give you e.g. US states too?
[07:57] <nik90|Office> dpm: it gives me city name, state and country names
[07:57] <m-b-o> even better, also county names in GB or "Landkreise"  in Deutschland
[07:58] <dpm> m-b-o, I guess that's with mapquest, right? nik90|Office do you know if geonames gives us that as well? ^
[07:58] <m-b-o> it's really good, but I'm unsure about timezones at the moment
[07:58] <m-b-o> dpm: yes, mapquest
[08:00] <nik90|Office> dpm: geonames does provides names in their local language as well
[08:00] <nik90|Office> dpm: however I am not sure how many languages are supported. It could be that for certain languages, the support is lacking
[08:01] <nik90|Office> dpm: which is also the reason why I did not enable that in the clock app
[08:01] <mihir_> dpm: can you review this bug please ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1229859
[08:02] <dpm> nik90|Office, that's a plus point for geonames, yes. But the do you know whether it supports things like U.S. states, UK counties and more fine-grained territorial divisions?
[08:03] <mihir_> I have added the descripction
[08:04] <nik90|Office> dpm: for US states yes
[08:04] <nik90|Office> dpm: for uk counties I havent tried
[08:04] <nik90|Office> dpm: do you have some examples I can test now
[08:06] <popey> nik90|Office: btw did you see my PM late last night?
[08:06] <popey> probably not as it went to nik90 not nik90|Office
[08:07] <dpm> m-b-o, do you have some examples of German "Landkreise" to test geonames.org with? ^
[08:07] <nik90|Office> popey: I briefly glanced at it this morning. will test when I get home today or tomorrow
[08:08] <nik90|Office> popey: was rushing to office, so dint have much time to check it out completely
[08:08] <dpm> popey, would you have some UK examples of same name cities in different UK counties to test geonames.org with? ^
[08:08] <nik90|Office> dpm: http://imgur.com/NLCFEIs
[08:09] <nik90|Office> dpm: it shows the us states clearly ^^
[08:09] <m-b-o> dpm: "Schramberg" for example
[08:09] <popey> dpm: hmm.. we don't have a huge amount of duplication in the UK
[08:10] <nik90|Office> m-b-o, dpm: http://imgur.com/BQcTFMo
[08:10] <popey> Farnborough is a good one though ☻  there's 3 of them
[08:10] <m-b-o> nik90|Office: try "aichhalden"
[08:11] <dpm> m-b-o, nik90|Office, for "Schramberg" in Germany, at least it gives you the "Land", which should be more or less equivalent to the US state
[08:11] <m-b-o> nik90|Office: there are some doubling and I wondered if it would be safe, to filter sout some data sources in geonames results.
[08:12] <nik90|Office> m-b-o: agreed. http://imgur.com/yH4UpGZ
[08:12] <m-b-o> dpm: It gives you "Landkreis", which is an equivalent to county
[08:12] <nik90|Office> m-b-o: but I do not know how to remove duplicate results from a list view
[08:13] <m-b-o> nik90|Office: lat/long is one option, another is to filter out specific data sources they use. Have to look at the api result
[08:13] <nik90|Office> popey, dpm: farmborough -> http://imgur.com/ggMfsIF
[08:14] <popey> dpm: also, farnham, there's more than one of them
[08:14] <popey> nice nik90|Office !
[08:14] <m-b-o> http://open.mapquestapi.com/geocoding/ there's a web form to play with
[08:14] <popey> thats the problem, there's three of them and I don't know which one is mine
[08:14] <oSoMoN> gusch: hey, could you please review and test https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/qsettings/+merge/187353 ?
[08:14] <popey> ooh, four.
[08:14] <gusch> oSoMoN: ok
[08:14] <oSoMoN> thx
[08:15] <nik90|Office> popey: they will all lead to the same result
[08:16] <gusch> oSoMoN: quick question, why qsettings and not qgsettings?
[08:16] <nik90|Office> popey: it is just that there are minor variations in their lat and lng
[08:16] <m-b-o> nik90|Office: in geonames, there's a filed <fcodeName
[08:16] <m-b-o> field, sorry
[08:16] <oSoMoN> gusch: you mean gsettings?
[08:16] <nik90|Office> m-b-o: do you have link?
[08:16] <dpm> nik90|Office, popey, it seems that geonames might be able to provide UK county info too? -> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/geonames/7bNvFNOCyng
[08:17] <m-b-o> http://api.geonames.org/search?username=uweatherdev&q=Aichhalden&style=long
[08:17] <dpm> thanks m-b-o
[08:18] <popey> that doesn't have counties...
[08:18] <popey> nik90|Office: oh
[08:19] <dpm> oh, reading the thread in more detail, it seems geonames.org does not have counties in the placename service
[08:19] <oSoMoN> gusch: if so, that’s because application confinement doesn’t support gsettings yet, and it’s been delayed until 14.04, so I went for the simplest solution, which is an ini file under ~/.config/<appname>/, which is supported by application confinement
[08:19] <dpm> then agaoin, that thread is from 2006
[08:19] <nik90|Office> popey, dpm, m-b-o : I got to go as my nick says I am in office :P. But if you feel that mapquest seems to be a better option, then I am fine with that. I will transition the clock app to use that instead.
[08:20] <nik90|Office> but the decision for that has to be made by you guys :)
[08:21] <nik90|Office> m-b-o: let me know how you find mapquest after all it would be nice to get the same city results both in clock and weather
[08:21] <dpm> yep, we'll finish the assessment and keep everyone in the loop. Thanks nik90|Office!
[08:21] <gusch> oSoMoN: ok - thx
[08:21] <nik90|Office> dpm: no problem ...se you guys
[08:21] <m-b-o> nik90|Office, dpm, popey: I would be fine with mapquest. But I guess you nik90 we would have to use geonames for the timezones?
[08:22] <dpm> http://www.geonames.org/search.html?q=Farnborough&country=
[08:22] <nik90|Office> m-b-o: true, but I can use city search from mapquest and get back to geonames for the timezone
[08:23] <m-b-o> nik90|Office:ok, would be the same for weather app
[08:23] <dpm> that lists counties ^^, let me check if that info can be queried via API
[08:24] <m-b-o> http://www.geonames.org/postalcode-search.html?q=Farnborough&country=
[08:26] <Laney> Chaps!
[08:26] <Laney> The Dialer component looks exciting
[08:26] <Laney> is that what we want for time & date selectors?
[08:27] <Laney> will there be predefined dialers for those so that everyone does them the same?
[08:30] <oSoMoN> gusch: when you finish with the first MR, I have a second one for you (your time permitting of course): https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/domain-with-only-one-entry/+merge/187455
[08:31] <dpm> Laney, I think that might be a question for zsombi perhaps ^^
[08:33] <gusch> oSoMoN: ok - but first I have to review a MR for SDK ;)
[08:35] <zsombi> Laney: there will be a TimePicker component which will be used to select a time, if you referred to that...
[08:36] <Laney> zsombi: Ah, I guess date is a Picker instead of a Dialer then
[08:38] <zsombi> Laney: the Picker is just a tumbler-type value selector, The DatePicker will use 3 of those, then the Dialer is the disk-type value selector, and the TimePiclker will use one of that and a Picker (for the seconds)
[08:41] <Laney> zsombi: Right then, thanks
[08:41] <Laney> as long as apps don't have to roll thei rown
[08:41] <zsombi> Laney: the plan is not to... unless they don';t want something uber-fancy :)
[08:45] <mihir_> how can we format date like 1st,2nd , 3rd using Qt.formatDateTime ??
[08:49] <dpm> m-b-o, I've filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1230153 - if you could add the advantages you think mapquest bring as a comment, it would be really helpful to have all the facts and make the decision
[08:49] <m-b-o> dpm: ok
[08:51] <m-b-o> dpm: do you have adminName2 or adminName3 in geonames search results?
[08:52] <m-b-o> dpm: forget it :)
[08:57] <dpm> yeah, they're there :)
[08:57] <dpm> although we'll need to check how well populated they are
[08:57] <m-b-o> nik90|Office, dpm, popey: I'm sorry :) I haven't seen the "style=full" parameter in the geonames api. Now it's just perfect for me. it even has timezone offset. Mea culpa.
[08:58] <m-b-o> http://api.geonames.org/search?username=uweatherdev&q=Aichhalden&style=full
[08:58] <dpm> m-b-o, no worries. Having the discussion has helped us understanding more the data available and what we need!
[09:12] <popey> \o/
[09:20] <mihir_> popey: i did sent email to lina pio but didn't get any reply from her
[09:22] <nik90|Office> mihir_, popey: me too ^^
[09:22] <popey> will nudge
[09:24] <mihir_> popey: thank you :)
[09:24] <nik90|Office> popey: ty
[09:25] <mihir_> is there anyway we can change the color of toolbar which is docked at bootom of the app ?
[09:36] <gusch> oSoMoN: approved and commented first MR
[09:39] <oSoMoN> gusch: thanks, commented back
[09:43] <gusch> oSoMoN: ok
[09:45] <mihir_> nik90|Office: is that okay to have multiple Mainview in single app ?
[09:47] <gusch> oSoMoN: shall I top approve?
[09:49] <oSoMoN> gusch: please do, I added cwayne to the requested reviewers only to keep him updated on the feature implementation, as he’s the one who requested it, but if it works (and I’m confident it does) there’s no need for an extra review
[09:51] <nik90|Office> mihir_: no you cannot have more than one mainview
[09:51] <nik90|Office> timp: ping (1 small question pls)
[09:52] <popey> mihir_: my fault, Lina had mailed me and I missed the mail, have replied to her.
[09:52] <mihir_> nik90|Office: okay :)
[09:52] <mihir_> popey: no problem
[09:57] <timp> nik90|Office: *really* fast then, I'm leaving for dinner
[09:58] <timp> nik90|Office: sorry I gotta go. bbl.
[10:01] <gusch> oSoMoN: approved second MR
[10:02] <oSoMoN> gusch|lunch: thanks, and enjoy your lunch
[10:06] <nik90|Office> timp: no worries, I will just leave the question for you to answer when you are free. Hopeful before you on vacation :)
[10:06] <nik90|Office> timp: Is it possible to increase the height of a ListItem.Standard or ListItem.Base? Otherwise I seem to get the text overflowing its boundaries
[10:27] <nik90|Office> dpm, popey: Could you try https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/sync-clock-backend on your device and let me know if it returns your current location correctly using geoIP. If yes, I will merge it in. Me and dpm discussed this in the morning.
[10:27] <popey> certainly can
[10:27] <popey> *exciting*
[10:27] <popey> ☻
[10:27] <nik90|Office> dpm, popey: I would recommend clearing your db first
[10:28] <nik90|Office> dpm, popey: to prove its working
[10:28] <popey> mine is a cleanly flashed phone
[10:28] <nik90|Office> popey: okay
[10:29]  * popey runs ./adhoc_branch_build_run.sh lp:~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/sync-clock-backend  and awaits magic happening
[10:43] <popey> nik90|Office: how do I know when it's working?
[10:45] <nik90|Office> popey: your current location. Did it set your current location automatically?
[10:45] <nik90|Office> popey: I am referring to the name of the city like farmborough etc.
[10:45] <popey> no, lemme put it on the window sill, it takes ages to get a lock
[10:45] <nik90|Office> popey: Previously the clock app on the first start, defaulted to UTC
[10:46] <nik90|Office> popey: it is not based on gps but geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup
[10:46] <nik90|Office> popey: it should be instant
[10:46] <popey> oh
[10:46] <popey> location is None
[10:46] <nik90|Office> popey: screenshot and I can understand what's happening
[10:46] <popey> 10:46
[10:46] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-25-114655.png
[10:51] <dpm> nik90|Office, I'll let popey do the testing since he's started already, I need to switch to a couple of other tasks. Re: one of the comments on the merge proposal, I think the initial (long) delay in getting the GPS location is to be expected and it is not a bug in Qt Location. mzanetti explained to me the other day it can take around 12 mins to get a fix (your position from GPS measurements), as we currently don't have any AGPS support to speed it
[10:51] <dpm> up
[10:52] <nik90|Office> popey: can you navigate to geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup and see your city locatio
[10:53] <nik90|Office> popey: sry, I had to leave because of a false fire alarm
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[10:53] <popey> a "false fire" alarm or a "false fire alarm" ? ☻
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[10:53] <popey> nik90|Office: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6153990/
[10:54] <nik90|Office> popey: someone triggered the fire alarm accidentally. no idea how..
[10:54] <popey> ☻
[10:54] <nik90|Office> popey: that's really weird you get None as the city
[10:54] <nik90|Office> damn
[10:54] <popey> ☹
[10:54] <popey> let me get others to test
[10:55] <nik90|Office> popey: also why is your time 10:46?
[10:55] <nik90|Office> shouldnt it be 11:46 in UK now
[10:55] <nik90|Office> or 11:55
[10:55] <popey> it is ☻
[10:55] <popey> I guess the phone is on UTC?
[10:55] <nik90|Office> I guess
[10:55] <nik90|Office> the clock app shows system time by default now
[10:55] <nik90|Office> so then your system time is wrong
[10:56] <popey> alan@deep-thought:~$ adb shell
[10:56] <popey> root@ubuntu-phablet:/# date
[10:56] <popey> Wed Sep 25 10:56:36 UTC 2013
[10:56] <popey> yup
[10:56] <popey> ok, checked with other -uk people and they get towns
[10:57] <nik90|Office> popey: why is it always that you get the worst bugs ever :P ?
[10:57] <popey> \o/
[10:57] <popey> I know, right!?
[10:57] <popey> It's awesome
[10:57] <nik90|Office> lol
[10:58] <popey> Friend of mine has learned never to launch apps until I have "played" with them.
[10:58] <nik90|Office> hehe
[10:58] <nik90|Office> I am called for lunch...brb in another 30 mins.
[10:59] <popey> \o/ lunch
[10:59] <mihir_> dpm:  i did push MR
[10:59] <mihir_> https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni-123/ubuntu-calendar-app/NewEventdetails/+merge/187489
[10:59] <mihir_> if you get time to review
[11:00] <mihir_> still i haven't changed any colors & some of the things are static mentioned in description
[11:02] <popey> nik90|Office: 12:01:01 < ali1234> i also get None
[11:02] <popey> not just me \o/
[11:30] <clepto> nik90, hello!
[11:32] <popey> clepto: he's at lunch tight now, back soon.
[11:32] <clepto> popey, hey man! thanks
[11:32] <popey> np
[11:32] <clepto> just wanted to ask about the contest
[11:38] <daker> nik90|Office: me too http://paste.ubuntu.com/6154110/
[11:39] <nik90|Office> hey clepto
[11:40] <nik90|Office> popey: I will investigate qtlocation
[11:41] <nik90|Office> popey: temporarily, i will add a if statement which will allow the user to set the location manually if the location returned by geoIP is NONE
[11:41] <nik90|Office> clepto: the results will be announced next week I think, if that's what you wanted to know
[11:41] <nik90|Office> clepto: the past week was spent trying to get the apps into the app store
[11:42] <clepto> nik90|Office, ok, thanks!
[11:42] <nik90|Office> popey: or rather I will get the lat, lng from geoIp and then get the city name through the online API
[11:43] <nik90|Office> daker: I have a fix for that in mind.
[11:45] <nik90|Office> bzoltan: in the systemInfo app, I am missing "import QtSystemInfo 5.0". Do you know its package name?
[11:47] <nik90|Office> popey: if I didnt mention before, you are the best test candidate :D
[11:49] <bzoltan> nik90|Office: Yes... a second
[11:50] <bzoltan> nik90|Office: qtdeclarative5-systeminfo-plugin
[11:54] <popey> hah
[12:09] <nik90|Office> bzoltan: thnx
[12:34] <daker> popey: when the results of the contest will be announced ?
[12:35] <popey> next week I believe
[12:35] <daker> ok thanks
[12:52] <dpm> daker, we updated the showdown page with the dates. We're planning to finish judging this week and announce the winners next Monday: http://developer.ubuntu.com/showdown/
[12:53] <dpm> dholbach, did any of the guys you reached to replied or sent updates to the store (skimbou, audiotape, ramsamsam)?
[12:57] <nik90|Office> zsombi: I tried the pickers, however it is having a package discrepancy
[12:57] <nik90|Office> zsombi: import Ubuntu.Components.Pickers 0.1
[12:58] <nik90|Office> zsombi: file:///home/krnekhelesh/Documents/Clock/test/test.qml:3 module "Ubuntu.Components.Pickers" is not installed
[12:58] <nik90|Office> zsombi: I copy  pasted an example as it is. I also noticed that in the toolkit gallery, for the picker tab is completely empty.
[12:58] <zsombi> nik90"Office do you have the latest SDK installed?
[12:59] <nik90|Office> zsombi: yes
[12:59] <nik90|Office> zsombi: looking at the API docs, I see the dialer documentation indicating the latest commit to uitk
[12:59] <zsombi> nik90|Office any logs? check also that you have the Pickers under the system imports
[13:00] <nik90|Office> zsombi: how can I check the system imports?
[13:00] <zsombi> ls /usr/lib/*/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/Pickers
[13:01] <nik90|Office> zsombi: ls: cannot access /usr/lib/*/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/Pickers: No such file or directory
[13:01] <zsombi> nik90|Office well....
[13:02] <nik90|Office> zsombi: nvr mind, on checking apt-cache policy qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin, I dont have the latest
[13:03] <nik90|Office> zsombi: weird only that plugin alone is not updated to the latest, while everything else is
[13:05] <dpm> nik90|Office, what's the latest on the Alarms API implementation? zsombi told me the SDK bits landed yesterday and there was also a branch with further fixes in the pipeline. Is there anything you're waiting on?
[13:07] <nik90|Office> dpm: it landed only  yesterday. I just need to test my branch one last time and then push it to trunk I guess
[13:07] <nik90|Office> dpm: it was crashing before the fix, so I definitely need to test it
[13:08] <zsombi> nik90|Office there's something else weird there... I don't have the Pickers folder either!!!
[13:08] <nik90|Office> zsombi: lol
[13:08] <dpm> nik90|Office, awesome, I'm looking forward to get that one landed, thanks a lot for also helping with the platform bits along the way! :-)
[13:08] <nik90|Office> dpm: all thanks to zsombi (man of the hour) :)
[13:09] <nik90|Office> dpm: although I did mention this earlier, from the user's perspective alarm is still broken since there is no notification support
[13:09] <dpm> that thing landing made him man of the week ;)
[13:09] <nik90|Office> dpm: from clock app dev point of view, it is ready
[13:09] <dpm> nik90|Office, yeah, I've had that on my to do to check who is responsible for that, but afaik, there will be limited indicator support for 13.10
[13:10] <nik90|Office> dpm: not just indicator
[13:11] <nik90|Office> dpm: if an alarm goes off, the phone wont do anything special to indicate that (no ringtone or anything)
[13:12] <zsombi> nik90|Office damn it! we have a problem in one of the deployment descriptors!
[13:13] <nik90|Office> zsombi: also in the state saver API docs, right in the first line there is a spelling error "Attached propertyes"
[13:14] <zsombi> nik90|Office: fix it :)
[13:15] <nik90|Office> zsombi: well since I wouldnt need to compile uitk to fix it, sure! hehe
[13:15] <zsombi> nik90|Office that's just a doc ;)
[13:48] <dholbach> dpm, nope
[13:51] <dpm> dholbach, sorry, I missed the context. What's the nope for, and should I worry about it? :)
[13:51] <dholbach> dpm, nobody got in touch :/
[13:52] <dholbach> mhall119, do we have API docs for the ubuntu download manager?
[13:52] <daker> nik90|Office: that's the getting the same problem ...
[13:52] <daker> i am getting*
[13:52] <dpm> ah, the remaining contest apps, well, they've had nearly a week to reply, at this point I think we should then not block the judges anymore
[13:53] <mhall119> dholbach: not that I know of
[13:53] <dholbach> mhall119, ok
[13:53] <mhall119> not sure who was working on that one either
[13:53] <dholbach> mandel on the code, but I'm not sure how it can be used from the app side
[14:12] <nik90|Office> daker: if you were referring to the picker, then yes it has been confirmed by zsombi as well.
[14:12] <zsombi> nik90|Office I'm working on fixing that
[14:12] <daker> nik90|Office: ok
[14:12] <daker> zsombi: perfect!
[14:12] <zsombi> daker: there was a typo in the deployment :(
[14:14] <nik90|Office> dpm: there is still the bug about the graphic canvas shown black in two apps. Michael reported the bug upstream. What do we do about those 2 apps?
[14:14]  * nik90|Office tries to find the bug report
[14:15] <nik90|Office> dpm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1229287
[14:16] <daker> zsombi: aha i was confused since i was getting the "pickers" section on the gallery but nothing in /Components, the changelog was mentioning the addition of the picker and everything was updated on my machine
[14:18] <boiko> dpm: hi, so yesterday I was debugging the calculator app freezing
[14:40] <dpm> hi boiko, thanks for looking into that, I saw your comments on the bug report
[14:42] <boiko> dpm: so I think we can live with that workaround for now, and check for a proper solution afterwards?
[14:43] <dpm> boiko, most probably, yes
[14:44] <dpm> boiko, unless you think the workaround changing the cache size might make the app explode at some point :)
[14:44] <boiko> dpm: probably not, so it helps because it creates extra delegates assynchronously before showing them onscreen
[14:57] <balloons> ping dpm
[16:00] <mhall119> jvrbanac: can you join today's API website call?
[16:09] <jvrbanac> mhall119, unfortunately, no. I'm in another meeting right now.
[16:09] <mhall119> jvrbanac: ok, when you have a chance go visit http://91.189.93.79/api/
[16:11] <dpm> nik90, in the interim while there is no notification support in the platform for alarms, how are you signaling that an alarm goes off? Are you just showing a message within the app? Or setting a signal which has got no consumer yet?
[16:53] <oSoMoN> bfiller: MR for the UA overrides changes we discussed: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/ua-override-domains/+merge/187561
[16:54] <bfiller> oSoMoN: nice, will try
[16:55] <nik90> dpm: I havent done anything interim for that
[16:55] <nik90> dpm: the EDS should be the one to fire a signal when an alarm goes off
[16:56] <nik90> dpm: the only way I can do it in the clock app is to check every minute (using a qml timer) if the alarm has gone off or not which is quite cpu intensive.
[16:56] <Laney> Looking at the weather app for the first time
[16:56] <Laney> it looks super sexy
[16:57] <nik90> dpm: It is similar to the situation of the calendar app, if the calendar creates an event for 09:00AM, the EDS should trigger it on behalf of the calendar app.
[16:57] <nik90> Laney: the work of m-b-o and his team
[16:57] <m-b-o> Laney: thanks! :)
[16:58] <Laney> \o/
[17:05] <dpm> nik90, thanks. So I guess it's the EDS part that runs in the background and as you're saying should trigger the notification, right?
[17:05] <nik90> dpm: yup
[17:07] <dpm> ok, thanks for confirming. Just had a chat with thostr about it, and he'll check the support we've got in the platform for this. It seems that we could use libnotify using a C plugin (which I don't think we'll have the time for in 13.10) or if there is a QML binding for notifications already, we could use that. He'll come back to me tomorrow once he finds out more, and we'll need some syncing with Design on how it all should work as well. We'll try
[17:07] <dpm> to join the dots tomorrow.
[17:08] <dpm> nik90, popey ^
[17:08] <nik90> dpm: awesome
[17:08] <nik90> dpm, popey: Tomorrow I am at home all day. Just ping if you have any questions
[17:09] <dpm> nik90, awesome, if you've got time and you're interested, we can also do a quick ad-hoc call with design
[17:10] <nik90> dpm: I am in :)
[17:16] <nik90> daker: if you have time, could you test https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/sync-clock-backend
[17:17] <nik90> daker: I believe you were one of the people who has the city returned by geopIP as None
[17:17] <daker> nik90: yes
[17:17] <nik90> daker: you need to delete the clock db
[17:18] <nik90> daker: on the desktop it is stored in .local/share/Qt Project/QML/Database/..
[17:18] <daker> nik90: you'll need to wait sometime, since i am on 12.04 rightnow
[17:22] <daker> nik90: well replacing thing manually i got this http://api.geonames.org/findNearbyPlaceName?lat=32.0000&lng=-5.0000&username=krnekhelesh
[17:29] <nik90> daker: is that your current location?
[17:29] <daker> nik90: the lat/long yes
[17:29] <daker> but this : Amellago no
[17:30] <nik90> daker: what is the city name that it shows under hte current location?
[17:30] <daker> it should says Casablanca or Rabat
[17:30] <nik90> daker: Does it show Amellago?
[17:30] <nik90> daker: Also is Amellago far away from where you live?
[17:30] <daker> nik90: i can't test the app rightnow,
[17:37] <nik90> daker: how far is Amellago from where you live?
[17:37] <daker> nik90: one sec
[17:38] <daker> nik90: http://goo.gl/maps/u5nY1
[17:39] <dpm> nik90, ok, cool, tty tomorrow, then, thanks!
[17:39] <daker> nik90: i am in "A"
[17:40] <nik90> daker: damn, the result is quite off :(
[17:40]  * nik90 is getting annoyed with geonames.org API
[17:40] <daker> nik90: geobytes shows the exacte location http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation&IpAddress=41.249.133.102
[17:42] <daker> nik90: ah i see, http://geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup show a different lat/long
[17:42] <nik90> daker: I rather not send a user's IP to a website without their consent
[17:42] <nik90> daker: yeah I noticed that
[17:43] <nik90> daker: could it be that the lat/lng you are sending to geoname is incorrect?
[17:43] <nik90> daker: did you get that lat/lng from geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup?
[17:43] <daker> nik90: yes
[17:43] <daker> nik90: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6155444/
[17:45] <daker> nik90: even sending the lat/long from geobytes to geonames show on a "Place" name rather than a "City" name
[17:45] <daker> http://api.geonames.org/findNearbyPlaceName?lat=34.0330&lng=-6.8330&username=krnekhelesh
[17:48] <nik90> daker: I accept that it wont narrow down to the exact city sometimes,, but 500 KM is way off!
[17:48] <nik90> daker: although searching casablanca gives http://api.geonames.org/search?q=casablanca&maxRows=10&username=krnekhelesh
[17:48] <nik90> daker: the lat,lng of cassablanca is around 33.5 and -7.6
[17:49] <daker> nik90: it's rabat http://api.geonames.org/search?q=rabat&maxRows=10&username=krnekhelesh
[17:49] <nik90> daker: which makes me wonder why geoIP does not return something closer to that value
[17:51] <daker> nik90: just to confirm this is the exact place http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation&IpAddress=41.249.133.102
[17:52] <daker> nik90: i guess the problem is here http://geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup
[17:52] <nik90> daker: I checked that link
[17:54] <nik90> daker: yup
[19:38] <peter__> hi! I'm trying Ubuntu SDK and can't see any Touch project templates in "New project" window. Does anyone knows how to fix it?
[19:48] <blaroche> peter__: i had something similar
[19:49] <blaroche> do you have the qt libs (qmake) what is packaged with ubuntu-sdk configured in qtcreator qt versions?
[19:50] <blaroche> I had the regular qt sdk libs configured and not ubuntu, and that caused the templates to not show up
[19:51] <blaroche> in my case,i just had to ensure I added qmake from /usr/bin/qmake
[19:51] <peter__> hmm
[19:52] <peter__> where should I configure that?
[19:52] <blaroche> tools->options->build & run
[19:52] <peter__> and yes - most probably I have qt4 libs installed before
[19:53] <blaroche> "Qt Versions" and "kits" tabs
[19:54] <blaroche> you shouldn't have to remove other versions, just add the correct ubuntu qt libs
[19:56] <peter__> blaroche: bingo
[19:56] <blaroche> great :)
[19:57] <peter__> Thanks - I wouldn't figure it out by myself and couldn't find it in google either...
[19:58] <blaroche> yw
[20:11] <daker> nik90: i am using a 3G connection now with differente IP range and i am getting the same location
[20:14] <nik90> daker: okay
[20:14] <nik90> daker: I need to come up with a better solution
[20:15] <daker> nik90: http://i.imgur.com/uKTsFVu.png
[20:15] <daker> same place
[20:34] <nik90> daker: I have a feeling that is because of your provider. None the less the result is not acceptable
[20:38] <daker> nik90: ISP 1 wired http://paste.ubuntu.com/6155444/
[20:38] <daker> ISP 2 3G http://paste.ubuntu.com/6156071/
[20:40] <daker> actually the two links should reversed
[20:41] <daker> with my IP i am getting a different city using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation&IpAddress=41.92.105.53
[20:44] <nik90> daker: I will be switching to gps hopefully in the next few days.
[20:44] <nik90> daker: nothing much I can do with geoIP
[20:45] <nik90> daker: when it works, it works perfectly
[20:45] <daker> ok
[20:45] <nik90> daker: when it doesnt it is way off :(
[22:23] <daker> nik90: did we get the picker update ?