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JackYuinfinity, yes:)00:04
JackYucjwatson, yes, we intend to drop these two packages:)00:05
cjwatsonJackYu: Unblocked ubuntukylin-default-settings/1.0.8.  Sorry for the delay.00:05
JackYuthanks for your unblock:)00:05
infinityI already unblocked it...00:05
infinityI should have mentioned that with the "looks saner" comment.00:06
infinityWell, now it's REALLY unblocked.00:06
cjwatsonAh well00:07
JackYuLOL, I'am going to rebuild now.00:08
cjwatsonI thought I'd grepped, but I didn't think to look at the top of your block of output.00:08
cjwatsonJackYu: Er00:08
cjwatsonAh, never mind, the unblock has actually been processed00:08
cjwatson(But be aware that they aren't instant)00:08
JackYuI see, cjwatson. How long will it take effect?:)00:10
cjwatsonJackYu: 01:08 <cjwatson> Ah, never mind, the unblock has actually been processed00:10
cjwatsonJackYu: that is, yes, it's safe to rebuild.  Just for the future, you can't necessarily rebuild the moment somebody tells you it's unblocked - you need to wait for "rmadison <package name>" to show it in saucy rather than saucy-proposed00:11
cjwatsonBut "rmadison ubuntukylin-default-settings" shows 1.0.8 in saucy, so that's fine00:11
JackYuoh, got it. Good night, cjwatson and infinity:).00:11
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sil2100Hi everyone!07:40
sil2100Anyone from the SRU team have a free cycle to take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1043627 ?07:41
xnoxinfinity: plars: RE:panels -> so they got ported to the "new indicators" yet only network manager loads and none of the others (a11y, input methods, system indicator) and the panel gets the same height as the largest indicator menu. I did ask larsu to look into it, but I don't think he is.07:59
xnox(he ported ubiquity to new indicators)07:59
xnoxone option is to not load the panel, but that in turn will regress (can't add/switch keyboards, and/or enable a11y, nor shut-down from within the installer)08:00
Laneytry re-prodding lars08:06
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dokoxnox, had libvigraimpex already done last night09:15
xnoxdoko: oh, ok. thanks.09:15
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seb128Laney, do you know why is ubuntu-system-settings blocked by freeze?09:27
Laneyseb128: it's on edubuntu09:27
LaneyWell, they were trying to fix that actually09:28
seb128shrug, why09:28
Laneylet me see if it happened09:28
Laneyaccident / bug09:28
seb128ok, so can we override the block?09:28
Laneylooks like it did get fixed09:28
Laneylet me refresh the block09:28
ogra_yeah, irt did09:28
ogra_seb128, is it approved on the spreadsheet for landing ?09:29
seb128ogra_, I've no idea09:29
seb128ogra_, asac make it so it go uploaded to saucy-proposed yesterday, is that enough of an approval? or does it need a second one to do saucy-proposed->saucy?09:30
ogra_seb128, well, all uploads and megres have to go there now and be pre-approved09:30
Laneyrefreshed, block should drop off now09:30
ogra_seb128, nah, we can drive proposed ourselves for touch ...09:30
ogra_(it will go stuck there indeed due to the general freeze)09:31
Laneynot any more09:31
ogra_?09:31
seb128ogra_, I'm just back from holidays and don't have  good grasp yet on that crazy new workflow09:31
ogra_beta is out ?09:31
LaneyI just refreshed the block so u-s-s is not frozen09:31
ogra_seb128, haha, expect surprises09:31
ogra_Laney, ah, i thought the beta freeze was suddenly lifted :)09:31
seb128Laney, thanks09:33
xnoxI'd like to request a beta block unfreeze for python3-pam binary packages (they are borked at the moment and the update fixes them), the python-pam binary packages however are seeded on all live images at the moment =/09:47
xnoxfollow up will be pam integration in ubiquity merge proposal which depends on the above fixed python3-pam (still testing at the moment09:47
xnox)09:47
LaneyDo I need FFe to add an installed tests package (and autopkgtest) to glib-networking?10:09
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mdeslauris libvirt on any of the beta images? can it get released?11:43
cjwatsonmdeslaur: It's on server11:44
cjwatsonsays seeded-in-ubuntu11:44
mdeslauroh! I didn't think server was having a beta, sorry11:44
cjwatsonI hope it's having final beta - desktop is11:45
mdeslaurah, thanks...I didn't know that11:46
cjwatsongrr, that last britney2 merge has britney segfaulting.  investigating ...12:15
LaneyScottK: ^^^ maybe you could review glib-networking in Debian binary NEW so that I can sync12:19
cjwatsonbritney fixed12:32
Laneylaney@iota> copy-package -d debian -s sid --to-ppa=ubuntu-desktop --to-ppa-name=gstreamer-1.1 gstreamer1.0                                 ~12:34
LaneyCopy candidates: gstreamer1.0 1.2.0-1 in sid12:34
LaneyCandidate copy target: https://api.launchpad.net/devel/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/gstreamer-1.112:34
LaneyCopy [y|N]? y12:34
LaneyNo such distribution series: 'sid'.12:34
Laneyis that PEBCAK or something else?12:34
Laneyoh yes12:34
LaneyI need to specify the target series12:34
Laneymuch better12:35
xnoxrelease-team: please review/unblock python-pam and ubiquity uploads. Both are needed to fix a few high installer bugs marked on the iso tracker.12:51
cjwatsonLaney: FYI Build-Depends: python:any is safe to upstream to Debian now (glib2.0)12:57
dokowould somebody open for a FFe for a new upstream graphviz version, building using lua5.2 and ruby1.9. then lua5.1 could be demoted, but there is too much to do to demote ruby1.813:05
* xnox is confused about ADT ubiquity 2.15.20 failure on amd64 only.13:42
cjwatsonxnox: dependency install failed - my guess is that was transient since it's around the time glib2.0 was uploaded13:46
cjwatsonxnox: I've mashed retry13:47
Laneycjwatson: oh really, that's good13:53
xnoxcjwatson: thanks, back to green now. And britney will notice updated test-result? =)13:53
cjwatsonxnox: hope so - I'll poke it if it doesn't13:54
cjwatsonOK, I've taught proposed-migration about upload ages13:56
cjwatsonSo the oldest ones will now be sorted to the bottom of update_excuses.html13:56
cjwatson(They're only sorted on day granularity - alphabetical within that)13:56
cjwatsonShould make it easier to deal with things that have been stuck without having to wade through things that are out-of-date because they were only just uploads13:57
smartboyhwxnox, what will be the respin coverage of the new ubiquity?14:00
xnoxsmartboyhw: i don't decide what to respin.14:08
Riddellif we're respinning there's a few things I'd like in kubuntu, still testing one of them14:08
Riddellsmartboyhw: presumably anything that uses ubiquity14:08
smartboyhwIf I was to respin I will only respin for the ubiquity wallpaper...14:08
smartboyhw* Ubuntu Studio wallpaper14:09
xnoxLaney: Riddell: ScottK: stgraber: please review & unblock python-pam, ubiquity for a respin to fix bugs as per ubiquity changelog.14:11
xnoxADT passed, and the freeze block is the last thing blocking transition to release =)14:11
* Riddell unblocks kubuntu-meta and casper14:13
* Riddell unblocks python-pam and ubiquity14:14
* infinity looks sideways at queuebot.14:30
infinityDid someone respin the world while Riddell was unblocking things?14:30
infinityOr maybe queuebot's just being silly.14:31
smartboyhwinfinity, no, that's the EC2 images14:31
infinityRiddell: Let me know when all the bits you care about have slipped in.14:31
infinitysmartboyhw: Ahh, fair enough.  So hard to divine what "25 changes" means if you weren't around to see the previous state (just woke up here).14:32
Riddellinfinity: will do, testing waway14:32
infinityRiddell: Ahh, and you already unblocked ubiquity, thanks.14:34
* Riddell unblocks the fix he wanted unblock kde-workspace/4:4.11.1-0ubuntu414:51
infinitySo, barring some incredible showstopper of doom, this'll probably be the last mass respin before beta.  If anyone has something they really thing needs fixing, now's the time to speak up.15:03
stgraberEdubuntu appears to have some unity issues, highvoltage is looking into it, basically the dash never returns anything. But I'm not yet sure what will need fixing for that15:11
infinitystgraber: Weird.  It should be the same on edubuntu and ubuntu, shouldn't it?15:12
stgraberyep, it should be...15:12
stgraberand I'm pretty sure that if that was happening to the Ubuntu images too, we'd have heard about it by now :)15:13
stgraberhmm, so who's our unity point of contact these days?15:16
stgraberthe only unity process I see running besides compiz is unity-panel-service, I don't see any of the lenses/scopes/services running on that box, which explains why nothing's showing up in the dash but since I've no idea how those are supposed to get spawned, debugging isn't terribly easy15:17
xnoxhud should be running15:17
stgraberxnox: yeah, the hud is running15:18
xnoxi have unity-scope-home, unity-files-daemon, unity-music-daemon running15:18
Laneyhmm, can't remember who the dash search guy is15:18
LaneyYou're probably likely to get better support in #ubuntu-unity though15:19
xnoxstgraber: and /usr/bin/unity-scope-loader loads the rest.15:19
xnox/usr/bin/unity-scope-loader applications/applications.scope applications/scopes.scope commands.scope applications/runningapps.scope15:19
stgraberxnox: right, that's what I'm saying, I have those on my laptop but they're not running on Edubuntu and I have no clue why since they're installed15:20
infinitystgraber: Is panel-service eating 100% CPU and preventing the world from happiness?15:23
stgraberinfinity: nope, the highest CPU user is compiz with 5% of the CPU (which is surprisingly low considering it's running using LLVMpipe in a VM)15:24
xnoxstgraber: i see gschemas for unity-scope-loader which control what's loading, but I don't see what launches unity-scope-loader on the desktop.15:25
stgraberinfinity: tracked it down to edubuntu-live conflicting with unity-scope-home (for some reason) and so breaking the dash15:32
infinitystgraber: Oh, fun.15:32
stgraberinfinity: so I need to check why exactly we were doing that (my guess is that's realted to the old shopping lens), the good news is that's going to be an edubuntu-specific fix15:33
stgraberhighvoltage: ^15:33
infinitystgraber: Oh, it's a hard conflict?  I was about to do debugging to find out what was kicking it out.15:33
infinitystgraber: Ah-ha.  You conflict with unity-lens-shopping, but unity-scope-home now provides it.15:34
stgraberinfinity: right15:34
infinitySo, simple enough fix, assuming the current state of unity-scope-home doesn't upset you.15:35
stgraberinfinity: so I'll drop the conflict and set the gsettings key to turn on the privacy mode by default (disabling remote scopes)15:35
stgraberthat should be the functional equivalent of what we had in 13.04 with that conflict (but in a cleaner way)15:35
infinityKay.  I'll respin !edubuntu when I'm sure everything else is in, and leave your image to you to manually do whenever.15:35
stgrabersounds good to me15:35
infinityActually, maybe I'll shower while I wait for the archive to settle, and then do the respins.15:40
dokocould somebody have a look at 1219889? Ijust promoted it, only seeing the MIR15:45
plarsinfinity: is it just desktop getting respins, or are you expecting to respin server also?15:46
infinityplars: Server too, some underlying packages changed that affected the world.15:48
stgraberoh, actually looks like highvoltage already disabled all remote scopes in edubuntu-artwork a while back, so I just need to drop the conflict and we'll be good to go15:48
plarsinfinity: ack, thanks for the heads up15:48
slangasekdoko: I don't understand what that FFe is asking for.  Is it just making it a dependency of the SDK?15:49
stgraberinfinity: if you haven't started the mass respin yet, you may want to wait a couple more minutes and include Edubuntu, edubuntu-live just got copied to the release pocket so it'll be there once the publisher is done16:04
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infinitystgraber: Ahh, cool.  I can wait, then.  Just de-showered.16:10
infinityRiddell: Did all the things you wanted get in?16:26
Riddellinfinity: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/4:4.11.1-0ubuntu4  still ongoing16:27
infinityAhh, still building.  Check.16:27
infinitydoko: Why did you promote ubuntu-html5-theme?  It's not seeded and nothing in main depends on it.16:31
infinitysmoser: You still haven't seeded (or depended on) ubuntu-cloudimage-keyring to keep it in main.  Were you planning to get to that?16:34
smosermaas will have a dependency on it.16:35
infinityWhen? :P16:35
smoserrsn(tm)16:35
smoserinfinity, you want me to seed it in the interim?16:36
infinitysmoser: Nah, I just want the dependency uploaded so I can stop asking. ;)16:37
slangasekright :)16:37
infinityDear queuebot, please stop spazzing.17:21
ogra_its cant count to 26 ?17:26
infinityNo, it doesn't like to spam the channel.17:27
infinityBut I'm more curious about what any of those three mass changes were. :P17:27
ogra_heh17:27
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stgraberinfinity: my bet would be on a few mass status change for the cloud images (I see they're now all marked as ready)17:33
infinitystgraber: I was betting on gremlins.17:35
plarsxnox: the screenreader situation improved slightly, it starts now but that's about it.  Only thing I can get it to read to me after starting up is the unity controls19:11
plarsinfinity: desktop is still in pretty rough shape I think19:39
infinityplars: I don't like the sounds of that.19:43
plarsinfinity: the strange partitioning bug is still there, no oem-config on first reboot for an oem install, screen reader situation is slightly better but still nonfunctioning, and more19:45
plarsinfinity: the oem-config regressed on this build, the automated tests show it working on the previous image, but not the latest respin19:46
infinityplars: The partitioning thing can probably be release-noted (wiping out the partition table and rebooting works around it), but we need to look deeper.19:46
plarsinfinity: yeah, for beta at least - it can also be worked around by selecting install only rather than live session19:47
infinityplars: The oem-config breakage is a bit more unfortunate.19:48
infinityxnox: You still around to given any insight into plars' oem-config bug?19:48
plarsactually psivaa saw it first - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/1231107 is the link19:49
plarsinfinity: also the u1 stuff during install is still broken, probably release-note for beta on that too is ok19:50
psivaainfinity: plars: the oem config bug could be due to ubiquity and oem being at skewed versions..19:54
psivaathat was the reason when i had a similar issue a while ago according to cjwatson19:55
infinitypsivaa: Err, oh.  They are?  They really shouldn't be.19:56
infinityGrr, they are.19:57
infinityThat's going to need a respin and a swift kick to nusakan to figure out why. :(19:57
psivaainfinity: ack19:57
infinityBah, it's the old version on the server ISO too.19:58
infinitynusakan, why do you hate me so?19:58
* infinity stops the bus and gets out to check on it.19:59
infinityplars / psivaa: Okay, there will be a new set once nusakan's settled down and stopped building what it's currently working on.20:00
infinityplars / psivaa: I'll manually refresh nusakan's mirror out of paranoia and then rebuild the world a bit harder. :/20:00
psivaainfinity: ack )20:01
psivaa:)20:01
plarsinfinity: thanks for the heads up - seriously - it's really annoying when you go to enter results and see nothings there because there's a new build. Good to know when it's on the way :)20:01
infinityplars: I'll spit out ubuntu desktop first, shouldn't take long.  Hopefully you guys can repeat some testing there.  If the oem-config thing was just the skew issue, most of the rest of our bugs can probably be release-noted for beta.20:03
infinity(Though tons there to look at for final release... *sigh*)20:03
plarsinfinity: ok, I need to go run an errand but will be back, and working on this later tonight also20:04
infinityAlright.  Mirror SHOULD be sane.20:08
loolhey20:29
loolI've staged platform-api in proposed which whitelists music-app from getting stopped when in the background -- diff is https://launchpadlibrarian.net/151468112/platform-api_0.19%2B13.10.20130924-0ubuntu1_0.19%2B13.10.20130925.1-0ubuntu1.diff.gz and is in the android bits -- if there's a spot where we can land this, that would be awesome, but I guess the images are close to release now20:30
infinitylool: Yeah, we'll probably drop the block late tonight or early tomorrow, depending on how quickly results of this last build come in.20:38
loolinfinity: ok; great20:42
loolearly tomorrow is perfect for us to roll the next touch image20:42
infinityplars: Do you know anything about the ISO smoketesting automagic promotion bits?20:52
infinityplars: Nevermind on the smoketesting thing, Colin educated me.21:47
jdstrandhey, click-apparmor 0.1.10 is in proposed (pending publication). can someone hint this through? it is touch only21:57
cjwatsonThen it probably doesn't need manual attention21:57
cjwatsonclick-apparmor isn't blocked21:58
jdstrandah, so beta freeze won't block it?21:58
jdstrandok21:58
cjwatsonBeta freeze only blocks packages on the images releasing with beta21:58
* jdstrand is still not totally clear on when things get blocked21:58
jdstrandI see21:58
* jdstrand will try to remember that21:58

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