[00:19] <rick_h_> evening
[00:27] <derev> rick_h_: this library is nice and should make the code inside the android client simpler
[00:27] <derev> the retrofit library
[00:27] <derev> my nick has a typo
[00:27] <derev> thats meta
[00:32] <rick_h_> hah
[00:32] <gamerchick02> hi rick_h_
[00:32] <rick_h_> derekv: so you saw the field typo then?
[00:32]  * rick_h_ has been in/out so not sure if you saw it or not. If so, ignore me
[00:32] <rick_h_> howdy gamerchick02
[00:34] <gamerchick02> how's it going? i'm glad the room picks up after 8.
[00:34] <gamerchick02> i feel bad if i don't check in
[00:34] <rick_h_> all good, relaxing time here. Really not spent much time behind a computer so far
[00:34] <gamerchick02> (because i miss everyone)
[00:34] <rick_h_> so trying to get some idea of news/twitter in an hour hit
[00:34] <gamerchick02> all day in front of codep (which behaved itself today, i'm surprised)
[00:38] <gamerchick02> yay for nothing on TV i guess?
[00:41] <derekv> rick_h_: yea I saw it
[00:42] <derekv> interesting that there's no error but i suppose it just becomes null
[00:47] <gamerchick02> book time. see everyone tomorrow. :)
[00:50] <rick_h_> derekv: cool
[00:51] <rick_h_> derekv: yea, I want to keep going on the cli sometime and try to get a python api library going. I think it'll be cool to have full on libraries and see about expanding the usefullness of things.
[00:51] <rick_h_> I like the idea of stealing the 'notes' idea from pinboard. A couple of times I've wanted to write up some note and keep it in bookie, indexed, with tags
[00:51] <rick_h_> could almost see doing something like a new todo system for cmaloney with tags/notes :P
[00:52] <derekv> i have this idea in the back of my mind about wiring up agents that watch my bookmarks on various services and copy stuff around
[00:53] <derekv> like if i favorite something on pocket, it should make sure i have a bookmark in mozilla, chrome, bookie... and set a tag or somesuch
[00:54] <rick_h_> derekv: yea, delicious and pinboard will watch a twitter account for urls and auto bookmark. Thought about that.
[00:55] <rick_h_> oh well, hours in a day and all that. I'm out all. Hopefully check in from MD tomorrow night.
[01:13] <cmaloney> Howdy
[01:38] <derekv> http://fabiensanglard.net/rayTracing_back_of_business_card/index.php
[03:42] <derekv> https://kerbalspaceprogram.com/kspstore/index.php?p=22
[03:42] <derekv> supports debian
[03:43] <derekv> (based distros)
[03:45] <cmaloney> Yeah, JODee was playing it
[03:45] <cmaloney> it's pretty involved
[03:46] <derekv> i don't have time for it.
[03:47] <cmaloney> Try the demo at least
[03:47] <derekv> just think if i did have time for it, it'd easily use up weekends if not weeks
[03:47] <cmaloney> It's pretty full featured
[03:48] <derekv> it already made me stay up too late
[03:48] <derekv> looking at videos
[03:48] <derekv> gn___
[12:46] <brousch> Um, what? "You'll learn to program in a language that' s used in millions of smartphones, tablets, and PCs. You'll code along with the book, writing programs to solve real-world problems as you learn the fundamentals of programming using Python 3. "
[13:00] <waf> 0 smartphones + 0 tablets + 1million PCs
[13:00] <waf> roughly speaking
[13:02] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:03] <cmaloney> Now now, I downloaded brousch's "Say Anything" program on my phone
[13:03] <cmaloney> that means there's Python on at least two phones. :)
[13:03] <brousch> hah
[13:03] <cmaloney> Three if I convince JoDee to download it on her phone
[13:04] <brousch> I need to get my Clever Drip Timer up there
[13:04] <waf> haha, i gave myself some wiggle room via "roughly speaking" because I know brousch is all about kivy/android/python :)
[13:05] <cmaloney> Also Galco n started life as a Pygame project, so I'm not sure if the Android / iPhone versions are still Python based
[13:05] <cmaloney> s/so/but/
[13:06] <cmaloney> SO, the answer is somewhere between 2 and millions. :)
[13:06] <cmaloney> Neither of which I think is entirely accurate
[13:08] <brousch> Misleading
[13:08] <brousch> Also, it specifically says PYthon3
[13:08] <brousch> So my apps don't even count
[13:09] <cmaloney> Huh? That's a huge stretch then
[13:11] <brousch> I reported it to O'Reilly problems
[13:12] <cmaloney> Thank you, Citizen
[13:14] <brousch> I almost fainted yesterday. We were evaluating a replacement for a big part of our business software (estimating, purchasing, stock, shipping) and they said they support Linux servers and OpenOffice/LibreOffice
[13:57] <cmaloney> Really?
[13:57] <cmaloney> That's cool
[13:59] <cmaloney> https://github.com/tybenz/vimdeck
[14:02] <brousch> Ah, so turns out they only support linux server for part of the server, and no openoffice
[14:03] <brousch> Salesman actually talked to technicians
[14:04] <brousch> And "support" is not the best term since they've never done it on a Linux server, but theoretically it is possible
[14:06] <brousch> Quite frankly the fact that the techs are even willing to think about it is more than I usually get
[14:07] <cmaloney> Yeah, I think the Linux stuff is getting some more play
[14:08] <cmaloney> Lilely because it costs less on EC2 to run a Linux instance
[14:08] <cmaloney> vs. a Windows instance
[14:08] <brousch> The companies producing this software should really be thinking about moving to SaaS
[14:08] <cmaloney> (not that I have any hard data either way)
[14:08] <cmaloney> brousch: They likely are.
[14:09] <brousch> Often businesses comprable to where I work have no full-time IT guy, so they are caring for their own critical servers
[14:09] <cmaloney> I'd be surprised if companies aren't seriously considering SaaS
[14:09] <brousch> Most of the ones I talk to are Windows-locked
[14:10] <brousch> And Office-locked
[14:11] <cmaloney> and honestly Microsoft did the Linux community the best service by releasing Windows 8.
[14:11] <cmaloney> It was just different enough to make people change-resistant
[14:11] <brousch> I'm going to end up with a Windows server here in the next year
[14:11] <cmaloney> brousch: That sucks
[14:11] <brousch> Our current software needs a Windows server for the next version, and all the others I talk to do also
[14:12] <cmaloney> Why?
[14:12] <cmaloney> Active Directory?
[14:12] <brousch> dotnet
[14:12] <brousch> SQL Server
[14:12] <cmaloney> Wouldn't Mono handle the dotnet piece?
[14:12] <brousch> You can point and click your way across programming!
[14:12] <cmaloney> Also what were they using before?
[14:12] <brousch> Foxpro
[14:13] <brousch> DB files shared over samba
[14:13] <brousch> So they're moving to "real" database
[14:15] <cmaloney> Ah, OK
[14:15] <cmaloney> Well, can't fault them for that, though I question their technology direction
[14:15] <cmaloney> but whatever
[14:39] <brousch> exactly
[21:46] <waf> oh hey, it's CHC early edition tonight
[22:20] <rick_h_> waf: oh, cool. Sorry, just got to campgroud at MD so been afk today
[22:21] <waf> i'm not blaming you :)
[22:35] <brousch> So o'reilly is claiming the crippled Python script creator on iOS is what they referred to as running Python 3 on smartphones and tablets https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors#Mobile_Device_Editors
[22:49] <jcastro> cmaloney: ping
[23:45] <cmaloney> jcastro: Pong
[23:46] <jrwren> i hate python on ios, its terrible.
[23:46] <jrwren> would be nice to get a good version of it.
[23:54] <rick_h_> evening