| tjaalton | looks like xorg-server has been accumulating a bunch of crashers all over the place | 12:16 |
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| tjaalton | drivers etc | 12:16 |
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| tjaalton | uh, how can a system running on nouveau crash with a trace that points to ../src/sna/sna_threads.c? | 12:58 |
| tjaalton | ahh hybrid, of course.. | 12:59 |
| bjsnider | use the bios switch, turn off one of the chips | 13:09 |
| bjsnider | if you don't have a switch, that's unfortunate | 13:09 |
| tjaalton | nah triaging bugs | 13:10 |
| bcurtiswx_ | why would .Xauthority file not let me login from lightDM even with the 664 user:user for permissions | 13:34 |
| bcurtiswx_ | upon removing the file it let me login, but appeared to have the right permissions to allow me to login | 13:35 |
| bjsnider | mine is 600 user:user | 13:35 |
| bjsnider | maybe it wasn't permissions. maybe the file was corrupt | 13:36 |
| bcurtiswx_ | bjsnider: so then what was causing it to become corrupt? | 13:36 |
| bcurtiswx_ | i haven't purposely messed with that file specifically, only done updates in Saucy | 13:37 |
| bjsnider | impossible question to answer | 13:37 |
| bcurtiswx_ | it's happened twice in the past week | 13:38 |
| bcurtiswx_ | past 2 weeks* | 13:38 |
| bcurtiswx_ | It's a simple workaround and all, but seems like possibly a bigger issue | 13:38 |
| bcurtiswx_ | there's no error that says your .Xauthority file is corrupt that would clue even experienced users into why it happens if they see it for the first time | 13:39 |
| bjsnider | well, i dunno. i'm not on saucy yet, and i don't log in with lightdm | 13:40 |
| bjsnider | file a bug if you want | 13:40 |
| bjsnider | should be against lightdm i suppose | 13:40 |
| bcurtiswx_ | I will next time it arises, that way i can attach my .Xauthority file to the bug report | 13:41 |
| bjsnider | bugs don't arise, they manifest themselves | 14:23 |
| bjsnider | i don't understand this movie by nvidia. are they saying the blob isn't good enough? | 15:08 |
| bjsnider | they'd rather have people using nouveau? | 15:08 |
| tjaalton | they want distros to provide better OOTB experience | 15:09 |
| tjaalton | which is not happening | 15:09 |
| tjaalton | right now | 15:10 |
| bjsnider | i see | 15:10 |
| tjaalton | you need to read the original announcement, not phoronix ;) | 15:10 |
| bjsnider | they want the first boot to be better just before users are prompted to install the blob | 15:10 |
| tjaalton | phoronix jumped the gun | 15:10 |
| tjaalton | it's a start | 15:11 |
| bjsnider | i'm reading ars | 15:11 |
| tjaalton | yeah that's more accurate | 15:12 |
| tjaalton | actual quotes | 15:12 |
| tjaalton | "basic 3d rendering" | 15:12 |
| tjaalton | maybe related to libglvnd too | 15:13 |
| bjsnider | not sure why all of a sudden after so many years they'd make this decision | 15:13 |
| bjsnider | they had their own nv driver for that | 15:13 |
| bjsnider | they abandoned it | 15:14 |
| tjaalton | maybe it took years to get this far | 15:14 |
| tjaalton | behind the curtains | 15:14 |
| tjaalton | they abandoned nv because nouveau was already the default on distros and doing kms | 15:14 |
| bjsnider | yes but that would have been the time to make this movie | 15:15 |
| tjaalton | and nv was obfuscated | 15:15 |
| tjaalton | doubt they were just sitting on the docs | 15:15 |
| tjaalton | just writing them takes time | 15:16 |
| bjsnider | they had to be written down somewhere originally | 15:16 |
| bjsnider | they're not keeping everything in their heads over there | 15:16 |
| bjsnider | it takes time to redact aspects of them that are patented | 15:17 |
| tjaalton | exactly | 15:17 |
| tjaalton | and make the lawyers happy | 15:17 |
| bjsnider | i don't think it would take this much time | 15:17 |
| bjsnider | they could have claimed they were going to do this around the time they abandoned nv | 15:18 |
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