[12:16] looks like xorg-server has been accumulating a bunch of crashers all over the place [12:16] drivers etc === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [12:58] uh, how can a system running on nouveau crash with a trace that points to ../src/sna/sna_threads.c? [12:59] ahh hybrid, of course.. [13:09] use the bios switch, turn off one of the chips [13:09] if you don't have a switch, that's unfortunate [13:10] nah triaging bugs [13:34] why would .Xauthority file not let me login from lightDM even with the 664 user:user for permissions [13:35] upon removing the file it let me login, but appeared to have the right permissions to allow me to login [13:35] mine is 600 user:user [13:36] maybe it wasn't permissions. maybe the file was corrupt [13:36] bjsnider: so then what was causing it to become corrupt? [13:37] i haven't purposely messed with that file specifically, only done updates in Saucy [13:37] impossible question to answer [13:38] it's happened twice in the past week [13:38] past 2 weeks* [13:38] It's a simple workaround and all, but seems like possibly a bigger issue [13:39] there's no error that says your .Xauthority file is corrupt that would clue even experienced users into why it happens if they see it for the first time [13:40] well, i dunno. i'm not on saucy yet, and i don't log in with lightdm [13:40] file a bug if you want [13:40] should be against lightdm i suppose [13:41] I will next time it arises, that way i can attach my .Xauthority file to the bug report [14:23] bugs don't arise, they manifest themselves [15:08] i don't understand this movie by nvidia. are they saying the blob isn't good enough? [15:08] they'd rather have people using nouveau? [15:09] they want distros to provide better OOTB experience [15:09] which is not happening [15:10] right now [15:10] i see [15:10] you need to read the original announcement, not phoronix ;) [15:10] they want the first boot to be better just before users are prompted to install the blob [15:10] phoronix jumped the gun [15:11] it's a start [15:11] i'm reading ars [15:12] yeah that's more accurate [15:12] actual quotes [15:12] "basic 3d rendering" [15:13] maybe related to libglvnd too [15:13] not sure why all of a sudden after so many years they'd make this decision [15:13] they had their own nv driver for that [15:14] they abandoned it [15:14] maybe it took years to get this far [15:14] behind the curtains [15:14] they abandoned nv because nouveau was already the default on distros and doing kms [15:15] yes but that would have been the time to make this movie [15:15] and nv was obfuscated [15:15] doubt they were just sitting on the docs [15:16] just writing them takes time [15:16] they had to be written down somewhere originally [15:16] they're not keeping everything in their heads over there [15:17] it takes time to redact aspects of them that are patented [15:17] exactly [15:17] and make the lawyers happy [15:17] i don't think it would take this much time [15:18] they could have claimed they were going to do this around the time they abandoned nv === psivaa is now known as psivaa-afk-bbl === psivaa-afk-bbl is now known as psivaa