[00:00] <Guest64582> I just installed xubuntu after have installing Windows 8 and now after installation it goes to black screen with a white line blinking but I cant do anythnig
[00:00] <Guest64582> I've tried boot-repair and hasnt helped me at all and can't find anything. Anyone have any suggestions?
[00:02] <reddeath68> sorry was setting up the hardwire basicallly i need help installing the rtl8185L driver I have tried this before and aside from lots of compling errors it seemed bugged so i did some research and found the official driver is bugged in ubuntu but there was another driver suggested but the thread is now gone and im back to square one
[00:06] <reddeath68> any help with this driver so i can have functioning wifi again?
[00:06] <salah367> salut
[00:09] <dysuki> can someone tell me how i can have a program run in the background and to ignore the end signal when closing the terminal as well
[00:09] <dysuki> the simple "&" at the end doesn't work when i close the terminal window
[00:09] <zykotick9> dysuki: personally, i'd suggest you check out tmux or screen.
[00:10] <zykotick9> dysuki: but if you don't want to install anything, try "nohup foo"
[00:10] <reddeath68> does anyone here have a working RTL8185L wireless device and can point me in the right direction?
[00:11] <dysuki> zykotick9, thanks
[00:12] <entreri> hello there, I'm looking for an All-in-One computer with Ubuntu on it, needs to be touchscreen, any suggestions ?
[00:13] <ParadoxGuitarist> So I'm trying to find dependencies for an executable file to create a .deb package and the file has already been compiled. (free  but not open software) I thought there was a way to check what libs a file pull against . I thought there was something like "depends /path/to/file" to tell what libraries it makes calls on.
[00:14] <wylde> entreri: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPre-installed
[00:15] <zykotick9> ParadoxGuitarist: perhaps "ldd /path/to/file"
[00:15] <ParadoxGuitarist> thanks zykotick9
[00:18] <reddeath68> is there a channel where someone might know how to get this wifi driver working?
[00:19] <ParadoxGuitarist> reddeath68: is the model you listed the model of the card or the chipset?
[00:20] <reddeath68> chipset is the RTL8185L
[00:20] <ParadoxGuitarist> hmm not familiar with that one...
[00:21] <friedmushrooms> does ubuntu work well with foscam wireless ipcams?
[00:22] <reddeath68> I had a different wifi card in but i switched to this newer one but it has problems with ubuntu apperently the RTL818x family doesnt like ubuntu
[00:23] <ParadoxGuitarist> But it works fine in other linux distros?
[00:23] <ParadoxGuitarist> Might be a kernel issue then
[00:24] <reddeath68> no i have never tried other linux distros actually lol
[00:24] <ParadoxGuitarist> There might be a newer (testing kernel) available.... but I don't know. To be honest I'm a fedora user and am a bit lost in Ubuntu policy/current packaging
[00:25] <ParadoxGuitarist> https://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x had some information reddeath68.
[00:25] <confused> is there anyone who can tell me if im capable of even getting ubuntu, my computer is barely a computer
[00:25] <friedmushrooms> i'd like to try out (again) linux, just a few concerns about keepass migration
[00:25] <genoobie> hey akk
[00:26] <friedmushrooms> ubuntu for mobile? confused?
[00:26] <ParadoxGuitarist> confused: You'll probably be ok. There are some links about making a Live USB
[00:26] <genoobie> hey all, just finished an install of lubuntu.  Problems with graphics driver.  Was thinking of trying a different distro linux mint / MATE or xubuntu
[00:26] <genoobie> are they going to be any different with respect to graphics issue
[00:26] <confused> its an emachine desktop with a sempron processor and 512 mb ram
[00:27] <genoobie> confused, just time to let that thing go
[00:27] <reddeath68> was actually just reading that pagwe 5 mins ago and i didnt see any mention of the rtl8185L also it says supported by "other drivers" but the linked page isnt very useful
[00:27] <zykotick9> confused: lubuntu... would be my suggestion
[00:27] <genoobie> unless you are going to make a fileserver
[00:28] <confused> can't afford anything better, oh and it has vista, thats the main reason im not sure if ubuntu/lubuntu would be capable of being loaded
[00:29] <wylde> confused: it would probably handle lubuntu 12.04 fine.
[00:31] <confused> ok thanks for the suggestion, i will probably attempt that. Would the vista OS just vanish after the install or is it going to be around after
[00:31] <ParadoxGuitarist> So I'm use to using yum whatprovides to find out what packages provide libs. Does apt-get have something similar or can I just list the libraries in the depends and pre-depends sections?
[00:31] <kostkon> confused, you can keep it if you want
[00:32] <wylde> confused: depends on how you install it. You can dualboot or take over the entire disk with ubuntu.
[00:32] <zykotick9> ParadoxGuitarist: check out "apt-cache depends foo" and/or "apt-cache rdepends foo" perhaps?
[00:32] <zykotick9> ParadoxGuitarist: or are you perhaps asking for "apt-cache search foo"... i'm unclear now
[00:33] <confused> ok thanks very much, i appreciate the help
[00:33] <ParadoxGuitarist> So I have the libraries from ldd like lbc.so.6
[00:34] <ParadoxGuitarist> sorry libc.so.6 can I list that in the dependancies section or do I have to list the package that provides it.
[00:35] <ParadoxGuitarist> If yes to the latter, then what's the best way to find that?
[00:35] <wylde> !info apt-file | ParadoxGuitarist
[00:36] <wylde> ParadoxGuitarist: eg. apt-file update;apt-file find randomlib.so.6
[00:37] <fahadash> Hello,
[00:37] <fahadash> Is there any way we can get Netflix to run on Chrome not Firefox ?
[00:37] <ParadoxGuitarist> thanks wylde
[00:37] <NeverHere> fahadash, you can use moonlight
[00:38] <fahadash> Whats moonlight ?
[00:38] <NeverHere> its an extension, like a greasemonkey script
[00:38] <wylde> ParadoxGuitarist: np :)
[00:38] <fahadash> !moonlight
[00:38] <fahadash> mozilla ???
[00:38] <fahadash> Theres the mozilla crap again
[00:38] <NeverHere> fahadash, you can install it in chrome also
[00:38] <fahadash> I hate firefox, Chrome is much faster than ff
[00:38] <NeverHere> i think you can get it from the chrome webstore
[00:39] <NeverHere> not sure though
[00:39] <fahadash> NeverHere: moonlight-plugin-chrome ?
[00:39] <NeverHere> fahadash, not sure, never installed via terminal
[00:39] <e-coffee> hi :)
[00:39] <fahadash> firefox IMHO is the 2nd slowest browser on this planet
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> fahadash, Your comments have nothing to do with support and is basically fud
[00:52] <Vermoot> Hi !
[00:54] <Jordan_U> fahadash: As watching netflix requires using Wine you'd have to ask in #winehq about how to get it working with Google Chrome, but as the browser you use for Netflix (via wine) should really not be your primary browser, I very much doubt that it's worth bothering with.
[00:56] <vinceableworld> frustration setting in. Okay I've downloaded the ppa - I do not know how to install it
[00:57] <Vermoot> Kinda need some help : I installed 12.04 on an IDE drivev ia virtualbox (raw access to the entire disk) but now when I try to boot for real I get stuck in the BIOS with "Verifying DMI pool data" :/
[00:57] <vinceableworld> what is "launchpad?"
[00:58] <zykotick9> !launchpad | vinceableworld
[01:03] <vinceableworld> Ty now how do I install software from a PPA?
[01:12] <wylde> vinceableworld: with apt-get .... sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install packagename
[01:20] <rubino123> gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
[01:20] <rubino123> gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
[01:20] <rubino123> from an official HP printer driver
[01:21] <rubino123> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html
[01:21] <rubino123> OS 12.10
[01:21] <rubino123> printer type: all in one
[01:21] <rubino123> model f2480
[01:21] <rubino123> model: "deskjet all in one"
[01:22] <rubino123> #linux seems to be drunk and in no mood for serious problem
[01:22] <rubino123> Any ideas?
[01:23] <rubino123> Fails when I do the gpg -verify <cert> <file>
[01:25] <BlueProtoman> I get this error when I try to uninstall some Java packages; http://pastebin.com/Qij9gbu7  I tried to purge java-common, but it had an error which left some packages broken.
[01:26] <BlueProtoman> Any tips?
[01:27] <ParadoxGuitarist>  /quit
[01:27] <ParadoxGuitarist> Thanks guys!
[01:30] <BlueProtoman> Anyone?
[01:32] <wylde> BlueProtoman: only suggestion I have is trying sudo apt-get -f install   beyond that perhaps if you're patient someone else with a better suggestion will come along.
[01:33] <mrrcp> is there a way to manage multiple systems outside of landscape?
[01:33] <mrrcp> anything out there?
[01:41] <thirtythreeforty> mrrcp, sure, take a look at Puppet.
[01:43] <mrrcp> hey how can i look up what video card driver im using
[01:44] <guest2222> does anyone know a terminal commed that will cd into a directory until it gets to the end of the line of folders.
[01:46] <thirtythreeforty> guest2222, no, but I could hack one together with bash:
[01:46] <thirtythreeforty> while 1; do cd `ls -d */`; done
[01:47] <thirtythreeforty> or something
[01:58] <babinlonston> Using Ubuntu 13.04 and using KVM there are Guest Operating systems such as red hat , centos , windows XP are  installed in it but i cant get installed the device drivers for Windows XP in Guest OS how to enable the Kernel module are how to get installed the Driver for that
[02:03] <BlueProtoman> I get this error when I try to uninstall some Java packages; http://pastebin.com/Qij9gbu7  I tried to purge java-common, but it had an error which left some packages broken.  Any tips?
[02:05] <Seven_Six_Two> I logged out of my 13.04 desktop, and now I can't log in via unity-greeter. I can tty no problem. I tried dpkg-reconfigure unity-greeter
[02:09] <Seven_Six_Two> yeah, it's lightdm that's broken for me. can't log in to any desktop.
[02:13] <crankharder> what, if any, processes would be killing things if they consume too much memory?
[02:13] <xac> quit
[02:18] <pckusername> Hiya. Quick libraries question on server.  Trying to build rtorrent. However, I can 'make' it because it says my libtorrent version is too low. I just installed the version it is telling me to upgrade to.
[02:20] <mobilemeyhem> Why would I be able to read the contents of antfs partition but not be able to detect the partition?  Gparted doesn't see it at all and I want to install Ubuntu alongside Windows
[02:21] <mobilemeyhem> But I can mount the drive and read it's contents
[02:21] <selig5> Is it ok to delete old versions of 'initrd.img' files from the /boot directory? On 12.04 I get a message that the volume boot is almost out of free space.
[02:22] <Ben64> mobilemeyhem: how do you know gparted doesn't see it
[02:22] <Seven_Six_Two> I think my video card is mid-fry right now...
[02:22] <mobilemeyhem> It recognizes the drive but says it's unallocated
[02:22] <Ben64> selig5: don't just delete, remove them using synaptic, or apt-get
[02:22] <pckusername> Here' s a paste for my problem. See the end: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6152782/
[02:23] <selig5> Ben64: Use 'apt-get autoremove' 'something'?
[02:24] <mobilemeyhem> Ben64: this laptop is less than 2 months old
[02:24] <Ben64> mobilemeyhem: pastebin the outputs of "sudo blkid" and "sudo parted -l"
[02:26] <Ben64> selig5: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels
[02:26] <mobilemeyhem> Ben64: one moment
[02:26] <selig5> Ben64: Thanks for the info.
[02:27] <mobilemeyhem> Ben64: pastebin.com/3LQjH455
[02:28] <Ben64> mobilemeyhem: you forgot the 2nd command
[02:28] <mobilemeyhem> Ben64: the other one said it had aGPT partition table
[02:29] <mobilemeyhem> Ben64: it's asking if the hard drive has GPT but I have no idea
[02:30] <mobilemeyhem> Ben64: pastebin.com/wwYqwiyh
[02:31] <mobilemeyhem> Ben64: this machine is running Windows 7
[02:31] <Ben64> oh
[02:32] <Ben64> i think windows is dumb with gpt
[02:32] <mobilemeyhem> I hate Windows so much
[02:32] <wolter> does anybody else get a message at shutdown commenting about using /etc/init.d/networking instead of service networking ?
[02:33] <mobilemeyhem> But this isn't my computer and I don't want to get rid of Windows
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> mobilemeyhem, this computer have W8 originally?
[02:33] <mobilemeyhem> Ben64: yes
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> mobilemeyhem, Did you change the partition table to msdos before the W7 install?
[02:34] <mobilemeyhem> No sir. I didn't do the install. So I'm assuming they didn't
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> mobilemeyhem, was is W8 originally?
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> it*
[02:35] <mobilemeyhem> wilee-nilee: yes
[02:35] <mobilemeyhem> wilee-nilee: likely the partition table was not changed to msdos
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> mobilemeyhem, That would be my guess.
[02:37] <mobilemeyhem> wilee-nilee: that is unfortunate. Likely nothing I can do unless that is changed?
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> mobilemeyhem, Not sure there are apps to convert, not done it myself, usually it seems partitions are involved, I would find someone who knows, here is a link though. http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> mobilemeyhem, Might be as simple as wiping the mbr, and reloading the appropriate bootloader, not sure really.
[02:42] <mobilemeyhem> wilee-nilee: Thanks for the help :)
[02:43] <BlueProtoman> I get this error when I try to uninstall some Java packages on Ubuntu 13.04; http://pastebin.com/S1Aq428s I tried to purge java-common, but it had an error which left some packages broken.  Any tips?
[02:44] <woebtz_> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 raring with Gnome desktop on a chromebook pixel. I toggled on the universal access Zoom option and I'm now unable to scroll the screen back to the universal access drop down in the top-right hand corner. I'm limited to about top/left 70% of the screen. Is there a keyboard shortcut or terminal command to undo the zoom? Is there a terminal command to reset my resolution?
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> BlueProtoman, this debian or ubuntu
[02:46] <BlueProtoman> wilee-nilee: Ubuntu.
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> BlueProtoman, Generally you would remove 6 before installing 7 same with 8 what have you done here?
[02:50] <woebtz_> Ah, I was able to setres x,y to a large enough resolution to scroll to the icon
[02:50] <BlueProtoman> wilee-nilee: I tried to change the default version of Java by modifying /etc/alternatives directly with a symlink.
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> BlueProtoman, heh, I would have no clue what that means, these are from a ppa right?
[02:52] <BlueProtoman> wilee-nilee: Yes.
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> BlueProtoman, Not sure what you have done exactly, but if it were me I would probably try ppa purge and start over, if possible at this point.
[02:54] <BlueProtoman> wilee-nilee: But this was not an issue before I fucked with /etc/alternatives!
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> BlueProtoman, Don't swear please. I have no idea what that entails is all, so I can't really help anymore than that, if its help at all.
[03:03] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, hi there :)
[03:03] <zexcriz> guys why is webmin not into ubuntu repository ?
[03:04] <zykotick9> !webmin | zexcriz
[03:04] <zexcriz> zykotick9, then any other software i can use instead of webmin ?
[03:04] <zykotick9> zexcriz: i have no idea...
[03:05] <zexcriz> zykotick9, ok :)
[03:08] <xiaclo> Does anyone know why Linux in general doesn't show all the RAM in a system?  For example, free -m shows 47.1 GB instead of 48 GB on a server I have.
[03:10] <bazhang> !ebox | zexcriz
[03:10] <somsip> !memory | xiaclo
[03:11] <xiaclo> somsip: not quite, looking at total memory, not free.
[03:11] <dcope> do you have to reboot after upgrading openssl?
[03:11] <zexcriz> bazhang, ok
[03:13] <Asad3ainJalout> Hello guys, Installed ubuntu and then installed KDE. Now I do have some issues. Sometimes my Display Manager will switch to Unity after some updates, Other times the Unity File Manager will open instead of Dolphin. This has led me to inquire on how to safely completely remove Unity. Thank you
[03:17] <dormito> Hello, Im having using ubuntu 12.10 (and xfce) I have notice that xscreensaver does not use the current display image (for example mirrorblob just runs a blob on top of a test image that has a red flame and a color check like pattern). since all screensavers that would draw with the screen do this, and I can not find a setting correct this in xscreesaver-demo Im at a loss
[03:18] <somsip> xiaclo: looks like it's how free calculates things. Try "awk '/MemTotal/{print $2}' /proc/meminfo"
[03:20] <xiaclo> somsip: 49411824 / 1024 / 1024 = 47.123
[03:20]  * Demonicpagan yawns
[03:20] <dr_willis> dormito:  on my xubuntu box - i defniatly have a setting to change that image, its like on the 2nd tab of the xscreensavers settings dialog. but this is on  my 13.10  (beta) test machine.   but i think i saw the same layout on  13.04 also.  I dont run 12.10
[03:21] <somsip> xiaclo: maybe dmidecode -t 17 | awk '( /Size/ && $2 ~ /^[0-9]+$/ ) { x+=$2 } END{ print "\t" "Installed Ram: " x "MB"}'
[03:21] <zexcriz> any other web based config tool other than zentyal  ?
[03:22] <xiaclo> somsip: that works, but why can't linux address it?  Installed Ram: 49152MB / 1024 = 48.0 GB
[03:22] <somsip> xiaclo: no idea
[03:23] <dr_willis> MiB vs Mb
[03:23] <xiaclo> dr_willis: RAM should also be MiB, there isn't any strange conversions
[03:23] <xiaclo> *always
[03:23] <somsip> xiaclo: this explains something http://is.gd/vmEpLk
[03:24] <dr_willis> some apps may still be using the MB   perhaps.
[03:24] <dr_willis> i rarely  worry about it. ;)
[03:25] <dr_willis> somsip:  now that url went way over  my head.  ;)
[03:25] <dormito> on the advanced tab there is a check box "grab desktop images" under the "image manipluation section". I at first thought that was what I wanted but it was already checked, and toggleing it does not seem to have an effect
[03:26] <somsip> dr_willis: hence my use of 'something'. I'm not sure what it explains, but it does seem to explain
[03:26] <dr_willis> Holes in the systems memory.  :) sounds like my own memory.
[03:28] <xiaclo> somsip: Hmm, still not sure what that means.  At least I found it, there is 924932k reserved according to dmesg, sounds about right
[03:35] <wolter> does anybody else get a message at shutdown commenting about using /etc/init.d/networking instead of service networking ?
[03:35] <zykotick9> zexcriz: i've pasted the <free whcp> dpkg factoid to http://paste.ubuntu.com/6152942 i haven't used any of them.
[03:35] <sam113101> how do I restart unity? it's crashed
[03:36] <sam113101> at least the dash bar
[03:37] <zexcriz> zykotick9, thank you so much zykotick9 :)
[03:37] <dr_willis> sam113101:  usde to be 'unity --replace'     but not sure if thats valid in newer releases
[03:39] <kostkon> dr_willis, setsid unity
[03:43] <sam113101> dr_willis: thanks
[03:43] <PDilyard> im trying to configure a vhost. I followed this tutorial: http://www.foscode.com/apache-virtual-host-ubuntu/ and i also added "127.0.0.1   sitename" to my hosts file. When i navigate to http://sitename/ i just get a page not found message
[03:44] <reisio> PDilyard: I'd talk to #http
[03:44] <reisio> PDilyard: I'd talk to #httpd
[03:44] <reisio> that is
[03:44] <PDilyard> reisio, thanks
[03:55] <Asad3ainJalout> Hello guys, I installed Ubuntu, then installed KDE and now I am wondering how to permenantly remove Unity as every now and then it will take over my Display Manager and my File manager thank you.
[03:55] <reisio> Asad3ainJalout: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu
[03:56] <bloopletech> Hmm I have a daft question: I am running raring on a macbook pro, and form my understanding, this particular model uses nvidia Optimus. I am running the nvidia-304 driver, which from my understanding has no Optimus support. SO AFAICT my graphics shouldn't be working at all, but they are (at least somewhat), and glxinfo shows I'm using the nvidia driver
[03:56] <dr_willis> unity shouldent be taking over. unless you got somthing very weird going on
[03:56] <dr_willis> bloopletech:  could be the sytem uses nvidia by default and turns off the intel chipse
[03:56] <bloopletech> My question is: if I don't have optimus support installed, like via bumblebee, how is my graphics working at the moment? I'm clearly missing something
[03:56] <bloopletech> ah hmm
[03:57] <dr_willis> ive heard some pcs have bios settings for that. I dont have any optmis systems
[03:58] <dr_willis> the main feature of optimis is the transparent switching from video chipset to  the other on  the fly as needed. to save power or power up for games. :)
[03:58] <xmetal> hmm @ "unity taking over"
[03:58] <bloopletech> mmm, well it would certainly explain the startup graphical issues I've been having.
[03:58] <xmetal> that sounds very odd
[03:58] <dr_willis> You could be suffering from lower battery life if you are using only nvidia
[03:59] <bloopletech> I think they're being a bit ambitious calling it 'transparent' though, I'm not able to boot to lightdm without first entering recovry mode atm :/
[03:59] <dr_willis> the plymouth  booting screens never seme to work nicely with the nvidia drivers
[03:59] <bloopletech> ah, well I'm not particularly fussed by that as I only use it at work and in the evening on the adapter
[03:59] <dr_willis> bloopletech:  the switching on the fly does not work in linux as far as i know.
[03:59] <bloopletech> dr_willis, yeah that seems to be the case from my research
[03:59] <dr_willis> but  you can tellit to switch. (fromm what ive read)
[04:00] <dr_willis> ie: keep it on intel mode,  then with a command. run a game on the nvidia mode
[04:00] <bloopletech> yeah apparently if I install bumblebee then I can at least get it to boot to lightdm properly
[04:04] <fr0ggie> i've got a usb hard drive that has prevents computers from booting when it's plugged in (it appears bootable to the bios but no running mbr probably). It's an lvm pv. 'od -x -N 2 -j 510 /dev/sdc' gives the following: 0000776 aa55
[04:04] <fr0ggie> That's x86 boot signature, is there a way with dd to just zero out bytes 510-512 of the mbr and will this hurt lvm pv?
[04:05] <reisio> fr0ggie: sure you're using Ubuntu?
[04:05] <logic5> I down loaded this torrent client called deluge and I installed deluge-console but I'm not sure how to open it in command line. any ideas?
[04:05] <reisio> logic5: downloaded? Use the package manager
[04:05] <dr_willis> dd can take a range i recall seeing examples to erase part of the mbr.   No idea on the rest. ;) i dont use lvm
[04:05] <Jordan_U> fr0ggie: This device has no partition table?
[04:05] <logic5> ya apt
[04:05] <bloopletech> logic5, try typing deluge and hitting tab
[04:05] <fr0ggie> Jordan_U: it has a dos style partition table yes
[04:06] <reisio> logic5: you "downloaded" with apt?
[04:06] <Asad3ainJalout> reisio: Thank you
[04:06] <bloopletech> it should autocomplete to the right command name
[04:06] <dr_willis> !find deluge
[04:06] <logic5> bloopletech no dice
[04:06] <Jordan_U> fr0ggie: So the physical volume is contained in a partition on the drive, correct?
[04:06] <fr0ggie> Jordan_U: but bytes 511-512 are aa55, which says "hey bios, this disk is bootable" i've wrote a few boot loaders in my life
[04:06] <fr0ggie> Jordan_U: yessir
[04:06] <logic5> reisio apt-get install deluge-console
[04:06] <reisio> logic5: 'deluge-console', no doubt
[04:06] <reisio> logic5: dpkg -L deluge-console | grep bin
[04:06] <Jordan_U> fr0ggie: Then of course removing that signature wouldn't affect the PV.
[04:07] <reisio> I doubt fr0ggie is using Ubuntu anyways :p
[04:07] <fr0ggie> Jordan_U: Wasnt sure if lvm volumes just happen to have aa55 there or no
[04:07] <logic5> reisio awesome im going to need to remember that. whats the -L stand for?
[04:07] <bloopletech> logic5, odd, I just installed deluge-console, and typing deluge-console just works
[04:07] <fr0ggie> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS"
[04:08] <logic5> bloopletech only works for me if im in /usr/bin
[04:08] <reisio> logic5: list, I think
[04:08] <reisio> logic5: --listfiles
[04:08] <dr_willis> logic5:  sounds like your PATH is incorrect then
[04:08] <reisio> man dpkg
[04:09] <logic5> i do have server version does that change stuff?
[04:09] <reisio> fr0ggie: what does your grub.cfg have for root?
[04:09] <dr_willis> echo $PATH and see if your default path includes  /usr/bin
[04:09] <logic5> and in tmux
[04:10] <logic5> oh ya looks like it worked outside of tmux
[04:10] <fr0ggie> main-ROOT
[04:10] <dr_willis> tmux may be using some differnt config files. ive never noticed the issue here when i use tmux
[04:10] <logic5> well now it works everywhere maybe i typed it wrong
[04:11] <fr0ggie> reisio: usb in bios sees a bootable USB on many computers and tries to boot off this drive. seems a little dd will fix this
[04:11] <reisio> fr0ggie: or just altering your BIOS config
[04:11] <reisio> boot order
[04:11] <logic5> THANKS!!!!! everyone
[04:11] <fr0ggie> would this work? # dd if=/dev/zero bs=2 count=2 skip=256 of=/dev/sdc
[04:11] <reisio> from a security perspective you don't usually want things booting before the internal hard disks anyways
[04:11] <fr0ggie> reisio: cant do that on all computers plug this into
[04:11] <fr0ggie> It's better to fix the drives bad behavior
[04:12] <reisio> that's true, but you could put an empty NTFS partition at the beginning
[04:12] <reisio> which is what you need to do with externals you're going to hook up to Windows boxes anyways, so they aren't accidentally reformatted
[04:12] <dr_willis> 'accidently' ;)
[04:12] <dr_willis> its a plot!
[04:13] <reisio> heh
[04:13] <reisio> I'm sure they considered it, yeah
[04:13] <fr0ggie> hmm can play with it in reverse
[04:13] <reisio> although deleting people's data, even if it's on competitors' FSes, is a dangerous game
[04:13] <fr0ggie> reisio: i dont ever hook it up to windows machines
[04:13] <fr0ggie> at least not booted into windows
[04:13] <reisio> someone might
[04:14] <reisio> :D
[04:14] <dr_willis> a pc that defaults to booting external usb media.. is a bit scary. ;) well it has bad defaults..
[04:14] <reisio> but I'm guessing an empty boring partition at the start would take care of it either way
[04:14] <fr0ggie> oh h*** no. i break their hands they touch my disk :(
[04:14] <dr_willis> or use gparted to turn off the boot flag?
[04:14] <reisio> a fair number of Unix boxes will default to using /dev/sda or /dev/sdb for a lot of things, though, instead of UUIDs/LABELs
[04:15] <fr0ggie> ' dd if=/dev/sdc bs=2 skip=255 count=2 of=test; od -x test' gives me: 0000000 aa55 0000
[04:16] <cornfeedhobo> howdy. I just had ubuntu crash on me and I was working on an unsaved text file, does gedit save to a temp dir? the text was also in the clipboard, is the clipboard history saved anywhere that I can try an recover it from?
[04:16] <reisio> yeah you shouldn't need the boot flag
[04:16] <fr0ggie> So dd if=/dev/zero bs=2 skip=255 count=2 of=/dev/sdc ??
[04:16] <reisio> for anything
[04:16] <fr0ggie> reisio: it doesnt show in fdisk, its not a partition set bootable but rather a remnant it seems of old mbr on it
[04:17] <reisio> ah
[04:18] <dan_> I just had an issue where an older ubuntu box had stale root CA certificates. What do I need to do to keep these current? I found update-ca-certificates fixed my immediate problem, but am not sure if this is all I should need to do periodically
[04:18] <reisio> I s'pose if you dd'd a copy first, then altered it, there'd be little risk
[04:18] <dormito> if I recall correctly, you could just dd zeros to the first portion of the mbr, a bios should then skip it... if I recall right
[04:19] <fr0ggie> reisio: i dd'd first 20 * 1024, cp'd that, need a hex editor.. then just dd it back.. dont like fooling with the offset and skip stuff since it seems not right
[04:20] <reisio> heh
[04:20] <dcope> what's the best way to set a persistent environment var?
[04:20] <dcope> i need to set SSL_CERT_FILE
[04:20] <dan_> export SSL_CERT_FILE=XXX
[04:20] <varunendra> cornfeedhobo, the autosave feature in gedit is not enabled by default.
[04:20] <fr0ggie> ohhh
[04:21] <reisio> dcope: could use your shell's rc or profile file
[04:21] <fr0ggie> I can just hexedit /dev/sdb
[04:21] <dcope> dan_: i've tried that but when i relog it's no longer set
[04:21] <fr0ggie> Heck ya.
[04:21] <dan_> use reisio's suggestion of putting it in your shell rc/profile file
[04:21] <dan_> (the export)
[04:21] <dcope> ok
[04:22] <fr0ggie> and the deed is done.
[04:22] <cornfeedhobo> varunendra: ouch
[04:22] <fr0ggie> Pray for this harddrive ;)
[04:23] <malkauns> lol
[04:24] <varunendra> cornfeedhobo, with my long experience with crashes, I've made frequent "Ctrl-S" a habit. Whatever OS, whatever application ;)
[04:24] <fr0ggie> So far, no more sitting at a blinking _
[04:27] <fr0ggie> ohhh.. no more blinky but linux doesnt like the partition table anymore. yay for backups
[04:29] <reisio> yayforbackups indeed
[04:29] <dr_willis> backup your backups
[04:29] <reisio> unregistered: http://www.yayforbackups.com/
[04:29] <dr_willis> backbackupsups
[04:30] <dr_willis> scary that my entire collection of all my amiga floppy disks/backups can fit on a single DVD. ;) how times have progressed
[04:33] <varunendra> dr_willis, and here I'm still finding ways to somehow use VHS tapes for digital backups
[04:34] <fr0ggie> its crazy that entire libraries can fit in a flash stick the size of a key these days
[04:34] <dr_willis> i had a tape drive for backups onc.. made backups then never did restore from them.  soon the hds became bigger/cheaper way of backuping up the other hds
[04:34] <xmetal> i haven't taken the time to hookup my "DVD DVR (records to DVDS)" to my VHS
[04:35] <dr_willis> xmetal:  i got a DVD-recorder (like a vcr to  dvd) also. 2 of them. old one the dvd drive dosent ejece any more. and the new one a sony.. refused to record most shows due to 'protected from copying flag' ;)
[04:35] <varunendra> :P
[04:35] <dr_willis> got a $30 USB-video capture dongle working now in linux.  Makes it much easier to backup  the old tapes
[04:35] <zexcriz> is ispconfig supported by ubuntu ?
[04:36] <dr_willis> if i could just find a sligltly better webcam video capture app then cheese. :)
[04:37] <xmetal> i got 2 of them for free ... the Phillips stinks ... it gets (from sites like Amazon) 1.5 out of 5 avg ... .the lens is "cheap" apparently ... never really worked for anyone
[04:37] <wylde> zexcriz: if it's not in the repos, nope
[04:37] <fr0ggie> dr_willis: you can make a nice thing with ffmpeg or gstreamer from command line
[04:38] <zexcriz> wylde, ok
[04:38] <xmetal> i cant remember the brand i have no (have to open it from time to time ... the vhs side constantly tries to play a tape that is not there, and the the unit shorts out) ... but i have done almost 200 DVDS :) and it is still huming along
[04:38] <xmetal> (both units are a bit old)
[04:38] <dr_willis> fr0ggie:  but i need a nice idiot proof gui for the wife. Cheese does 90% of what i want.  it just needs a timer to auto-stop the recording so i dont get 3 hrs of static if i forget.    and if it could save to mp4 instead of webm that would be nice for me. ;P
[04:38] <zexcriz> i smell ubuntu is only interested in promoting their stuff :( starting to hate ubuntu
[04:39] <qin_> !ot | zexcriz
[04:39] <xmetal> i got one of those "dazzle" usb input from RCA adapters a few years ago .. neer was really happy with it
[04:39] <KnownSyntax> lul
[04:39] <xmetal> never *
[04:40] <zexcriz> qin_, off-topic seriously just one sentence ??
[04:40] <xmetal> i understand about OT and the channels, though some folks seem to be picky
[04:40] <dr_willis> xmetal:  i bought a usb captue thing for $15 was supposed to work in linux. but aparently the company changed chipsets in the device and  now the new ones dont work in linux. the 2nd one i bought for $30 works much better.    I need to get a 2nd one someday
[04:41] <varunendra> zexcriz, there is nothing wrong in switching to another OS if it works better for you :) (I have some hidden hatred to a few things too, but ultimately it overall proves to be better than others I've tried)
[04:41] <zexcriz> varunendra, thanks for you advice.
[04:42] <qin_> zexcriz: there is also distrowatch.com so yuur next may suit better your fine sublime sens of galantry
[04:43] <wylde> zexcriz: there's actually some excellent info on the ispconfig website anyway. http://www.ispconfig.org/page/en/documentation.html
[04:43] <xmetal> you know ... i should look into that
[04:43] <zexcriz> qin_, can't guys over here take some criticism positively ?  why you just hammer guys to change the distro ?
[04:43] <xmetal> i am sure the tech of those capture devices has gotten better
[04:44] <zexcriz> i told because ubuntu want to support zentyal than any other panels.
[04:44] <xmetal> i think it didn't support the OS and i'd have to buy a new one for the new OS anyway so ... i said "screw it" and never got around to it again
[04:44] <qin_> zexcriz: it's just me, now back to suppory, no problem.
[04:44] <zexcriz> wylde, thanks for that nice guide :)
[04:44] <xmetal> most of the items are old tv shows i have on dvd (orginal boxsets) anyway
[04:45] <xmetal> its a few rare things not put on dvd
[04:45] <xmetal> that i'd want to record
[04:45] <xmetal> i tried one and there is a loud humm in the audio .. should look into fixing (/seeing if i can fix that)
[04:45] <dr_willis> xmetal:  my wife always wants the most obscure shows :)  that i can never find on dvd on amazon.
[04:45] <xmetal> lol
[04:46] <xmetal> i should (the shows i couldn't find on dvd) look on amazon .. just for fun
[04:46] <xmetal> see if they recently released anything
[04:46] <xmetal> buying the dvd set would be easier then messing with capture cards that do not work well
[04:47] <xmetal> (if you ask me) ... any maybe cheaper too
[04:48] <dr_willis> problem i find with dvd's is the w2ife wantss them on  her media-player hard drive.. snd some dvds got stupid new protection that wont even play in her legal dvd player/
[04:48] <dr_willis> or play in the pc. and are a pain to rip
[04:55] <dcope> if im changing my SSL_CERT_FILE env var will i need to reboot to have openssl pick it up?
[05:01] <clj_newb_2345> does using encryption on the hd defeat "physical access = able to steal data" ? i.e. if an attacker knows neither my hd encrytion password nor logiin info , how does physical access help them steal data?
[05:04] <dr_willis> they could try to decrypt it i guess at their leisure
[05:04] <dr_willis> bigger issue i see in here weekly. is people forgetting their passwords and being unable to access their own systems. ;)
[05:05] <clj_newb_2345> it's okay, I'm using sections of Twilight for the encrytion password, no nerd will be able to type it in
[05:09] <jmgk> hey all
[05:09] <jmgk> Will Ubuntu support NVIDIA FX 5200
[05:09] <jmgk> I cant seem to detect my card
[05:09] <dr_willis> ioften just install the nvidia-current package and see if it works. ;)
[05:09] <jmgk> hm
[05:10] <hw4ng3r> exit
[05:10] <dr_willis> but all my nvidia-systmes are older and i know they work with the nvidia current packages after the last few years
[05:10] <jmgk> ok
[05:11] <dr_willis> you may wannt to check askubunbtu.com and the forums about that exact chipset. could be it has known issues
[05:11] <jmgk> thanks dr_willis
[05:20] <jmgk> Night all
[05:20] <jmgk> thanks dr_willis  again
[05:38] <tree123> hi i had xp and win7 along with ubuntu and i formatted drive with xp os but now win7 is not booting say bootmgr problem plsese help
[05:40] <tree123> hi i had xp and win7 along with ubuntu and i formatted drive with xp os but now win7 is not booting say bootmgr problem plsese help
[05:41] <xmetal> win7 has a "boot recover/repair" option if i am not mistaken
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> tree123: Windows puts its boot files together, and installing xp after w7 is not a good practice, ##windows is where you need help.
[05:45] <dcope> hey all, how come apt-get install openssl says im running the latest version but https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl has newe versions?
[05:47] <dele> Hello all. I have recently in stall Lubuntu 13.04.
[05:48] <dele> However there is no sound. I have a Creative sound blaster 5.1.card installed
[05:48] <dele> I had no problems with setting tthis up in ubuntu 12.04
[05:49] <dele> Once selected in the sound perferences. This option however is not available in Lubuntu
[05:51] <dele> Can someone guide me on how to enable sound onn this distro
[05:53] <zexcriz> can i have nginx and apache installed side by side ?
[05:54] <aeon-ltd> zexcriz: sure, but i don't think running both at the same time is ideal
[05:55] <zexcriz> aeon-ltd, i dont want to run them together, just wanted to make sure that i can install nginx along with LAMP which i am using currently, so that i can test nginx :)
[05:57] <DanC_> I can't install libsdl1.2-dev : libglib2.0-dev : Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.32.3-0ubuntu1) but 2.32.4-0ubuntu1 is installed.
[05:57] <DanC_> suggestions?
[05:58] <DanC_> ah... aptitude found a solution. cool.
[06:20] <xmetal> ah found my (the working one) DVD recorder on amazon
[06:21] <shagatth> I really hope someone here can help me. I am trying to create a boot USB drive so that I can install Ubuntu. I follow the steps on the site and when i reboot my laptop and tell it to boot from USB it just gives me a black screen with a blinking cursor. I have searched online but cant seem to find anything that fixes this.
[06:22] <dr_willis> shagatth:  tried the nomodeset option yet?
[06:22] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[06:22] <shagatth> I will check that out
[06:23] <dr_willis> thats like a #1 faq/fix ;)   they really should make it an more obvious boot option.
[06:26] <shagatth> that seems to be my problem as it mainly applies to nVidia ans that is what I have. However it seems to require that the Ubuntu spash screen pop up so you can chose nomodeset. I cant even get that far. I dont have a splash screen. It is just black with a blinking cursor...
[06:27] <jnhghy> I have a python program, is there a way to hook in the os and start my program when a user tries to start thunderbird? how things should go: user click thunderbird, my program runs, after that thunderbird starts. is it possible?
[06:28] <dr_willis> you select nomodeset befor you get to the splash screen
[06:29] <dr_willis> unless you dont have a properly made usb flash drie thats not booting properly there should be a man=keyboard icon somewhere really wuick after bootiup. you hit space, or f6 or f6 or somthing like that reall quick and it gets to a options  menu
[06:29] <dr_willis> jnhghy:  make a script. or just make the app launch thunderbird and use it instead of the thunderbird launcher
[06:30] <shagatth> as soon as i select boot from USB it gives me the blinking cursor. the flash drive is fine, I have used it for many other things with no problems... is there a way i can set nomodeset on the USB drive from within windows?
[06:31] <shagatth> by editing the install files somehow?
[06:31] <dr_willis> its 'fine' but it may have not beem made into a proper  bootable usb flash drive with whatever tool you used.
[06:32] <dr_willis> the syslinux config files on the usb can be altered to select nomodeset by default i recall doing it ages ago. but i dont recall what files
[06:32] <dr_willis> you should still see somthing other then just a flashing cursor first
[06:33] <shagatth> i used the one that the ubuntu site said to... but all i get is the cursor. i believe it was "universal usb installer"
[06:33] <dr_willis> id try some of the other tools at the   pendrivelinux site
[06:34] <jnhghy> dr_willis: I know I can start thunderbird from my script but there are many places from where a user can start thunderbird, I won't know if they used my script or just launched thunderbird from a shortcut...
[06:34] <deepblue> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6151697/  ,i wanna delete this entry in grub :Windows NT/2000/XP (loader) (on /dev/sda1)
[06:34] <linu> hi  all i have installed wine tool on my ubuntu pc after that  i have installed ms-office 2007 in wine,but when i open a doc and trying to save it shows a window that is configuring and it takes sometime then shows an another window the message is the save failed due to out of memory space or disk space, can you help me to solve
[06:35] <xmetal> afk researching dvd recorders
[06:35] <xmetal> er afc(chat) that should be
[06:35] <dr_willis> jnhghy:  make your script called  the same name as the thunderbird binary, and rename the real thunderbird to 'thunderbird.real'
[06:36] <jnhghy> dr_willis: will try, thanks
[06:36] <dr_willis> then hae your script run that ;)
[06:36] <dr_willis> firefox does the same trick i recall
[06:37] <shagatth> attempting to format flash drive with YUMI. hope this works
[06:37] <dr_willis> theres a dozen other tools to make bootable flash drives. ;)
[06:38] <dr_willis> you did  verify   the MD5sum of the iso file you are using?
[06:38] <shagatth> that was the recommended one. do you have a recommended one?
[06:38] <shagatth> yes
[06:40] <dr_willis> !md5
[06:40] <dr_willis> try some of the main ones from pendrivelinux
[06:43] <zexcriz> which is the multi_key with keycode 117 ?
[06:43] <zexcriz> that key has some prob, this key always remains pressed so i want to disable it.
[06:43] <tree123> hi my grub loader is not recognising win 7 plese help i hab win7 and ubuntu together
[06:43] <helmut_> hi
[06:43] <tree123> hi my grub loader is not recognising win 7 plese help i hab win7 and ubuntu together
[06:43] <shagatth> just rechecked the MD5 and it is good. I re set up the boot USB with a different program. I am gonna try this. i will be back to let you know if it worked or not. fingers crossed
[06:44] <xmetal> i dont think some people pay attention at all
[06:44] <xmetal> lol
[06:51] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:51] <dr_willis> it is 3am  here in the usa
[06:52] <dr_willis> and im at work.. gotta go do some real work.. bbl
[06:58] <jnhghy> I have a python script called "script" what should I do to be able to launch it by it's name? any tutorials on this?
[07:04] <aeon-ltd> jnhghy: make it executable first with chmod
[07:04] <aeon-ltd> !chmod
[07:04] <jnhghy> aeon-ltd: it is, next?
[07:04] <aeon-ltd> jnhghy: then it should just run when you use it
[07:06] <aeon-ltd> jnhghy: are you looking for something like this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15587877/run-a-python-script-in-terminal-without-the-python-command
[07:08] <jnhghy> aeon-ltd: I wasn't decided how it should work, from what I read I can use full paths in launcher ... but that so also helps, thanks
[07:09] <aeon-ltd> google did most of the work :)
[07:10] <jnhghy> aeon-ltd: I don't know what steps to take(too many solutions I guess). I have a python program that copies some files, after the program runs I need to start thunderbird, I don't want the user to take 2 steps (run my script and then thunderbird) so I've changed the launcher of thunderbird to run my script first, now I'm having trouble starting thunderbird from my script :) any ideas?
[07:11] <shagatth> alright. the install worked. back in windows though because i need to make ubuntu show from the boot list. i have 2 windows boots and 1 ubuntu boot. it is only showing my 2 windows.
[07:12] <jnhghy> shagatth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[07:12] <wilee-nilee> shagatth: What is the bootloader?
[07:12] <shagatth> thank you
[07:12] <shagatth> uhhh, i assume the default windows one
[07:12] <aeon-ltd> jnhghy: how are you launching thunderbird? just "/path/to/script && thunderbird"?
[07:13] <jnhghy> aeon-ltd: don't know yet :) at this point I'm thinking at somthing like your example ... a .sh file that will run my script and then thunderbird %u ...
[07:14] <ArielX_> guys good morning.... please can anyone put me through to setting up an email server and create an email account on ubuntu
[07:14] <deepblue> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6151697/  ,i wanna delete this entry in grub :Windows NT/2000/XP (loader) (on /dev/sda1)
[07:15] <wilee-nilee> shagatth: Make sure to save the bootinfo summary url when you run bootrepair, in case the problem persists.
[07:17] <ArielX_> guys good morning.... please can anyone put me through to setting up an email server and create an email account on ubuntu
[07:17] <bazhang> !patience | ArielX_
[07:19] <ArielX_> lol... funny ubottu... they know but just are busy or have no time to answer me
[07:19] <bazhang> ArielX_, be patient
[07:19] <ArielX_> I'm patent bazhang
[07:22] <jnhghy> I have a .sh file when I double click it it wants to run it asks me if I want to run it in a terminal or dispaly. this file starts thunderbird, but I don't want to have the terminal up can I run the file (in terminal) but without the terminal? am I makin any sense?
[07:24] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/serverguide/postfix.html   <----- ArielX_  ; and for setting up email on Ubuntu, just follow the prompts on whichever client you choose.
[07:25] <bazhang> jnhghy, you want the script to run at certain times? with or without a launcher
[07:25] <jnhghy> bazhang: when a user double clicks the .sh file I want it to run without dispalying any messages, creating a launcher is probably the best option, but how can I do that also?
[07:26] <usr13> The "OpenGL Slideshow" screensaver does not do what I want it to do.  Could it somehow be replaced by geeqie -f -s Pictures/ ?
[07:26] <bazhang> jnhghy, Thunderbird has an icon already, so you want it to check for email at certain intervals? or whats the end goal here
[07:26] <jnhghy> bazhang: I want to download a dinamic abook.mab file from a specific path (done by python script) and after that script runs I want to start thunderbird
[07:28] <jnhghy> bazhang: I've done it, thanks, I've modified the thunderbird shortcut to point to my .sh file and now it works
[07:28] <bazhang> jnhghy, not sure what a .mab file is, ah ok thats good then
[07:29] <sander^work> Have anyone managed to get dualboot working on a pc with secure boot? with UEFI & CMS mode?
[07:29] <sander^work> CSM maybe
[07:30] <Valentina> my ubuntu 12.04 doesn't detects in UEFI mode system..how can i fix it  ???
[07:30] <bazhang> !uefi | sander^work
[07:30] <ArielX_> bazhang... Next, generate or obtain a digital certificate for TLS. See Certificates for details. This example also uses a Certificate Authority (CA). For information on generating a CA certificate see Certification Authority.  but how?
[07:30] <bazhang> ArielX_, is that from the postfix guide?
[07:30] <ArielX_> yip
[07:31] <ArielX_> under SMTP Authentication
[07:33] <Valentina> my ubuntu 12.04 doesn't detects in UEFI mode system..how can i fix it  ???	
[07:33] <bazhang> ArielX_, try #postfix  and possible #ubuntu-server
[07:33] <Valentina> somebody plz help me
[07:34] <bazhang> !helpme | Valentina
[07:34] <Valentina> !repeat
[07:34] <omg_scout> make sure you have 64 bit ubuntu
[07:35] <Valentina> !attitude
[07:35] <omg_scout> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[07:35] <Valentina> omg_scout, I want to install ubuntu 12.04 32bit
[07:36] <ArielX_> so? go ahead and install it
[07:37] <omg_scout> Well the link I posted suggests installing 54bit version
[07:37] <omg_scout> I would follow it if I was not an expert
[07:37] <omg_scout> 64bit * of course I mean
[07:38] <sander^work> bazhang, When I boot into ubuntu from my usbstick, and choose try ubuntu.. I now only gets into text mode.. How do I enable grafical mode?
[07:52] <mpradha> Hi
[07:53] <mpradha> I am using Linux Mint Olivia (ver 15).
[07:53] <mpradha> Trying GNS3 and QEMU. Getting error:
[07:53] <mpradha> "/usr/local/bin/qemu: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by /usr/local/bin/qemu)
[07:53] <mpradha> /usr/local/bin/qemu: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /usr/local/bin/qemu)
[07:53] <mpradha> "
[07:53] <vlt> !mint | mpradha
[07:54] <mpradha> Thanks for the info
[07:54] <amir270311> Hello
[07:55] <amir270311> anyone here have expirience with printing from ubuntu to windows server
[07:55] <nerdtron> mpradha, if you like to use packet tracer, there is an official build for ubuntu
[07:57] <deepblue> hi
[07:57] <mpradha> Hi
[07:57] <mpradha>  I am using Linux Mint Olivia (ver 15).
[07:57] <mpradha> Trying GNS3 and QEMU. Getting error:
[07:57] <mpradha> (01:23:47  IST) Ozch [~Ozch@unaffiliated/ozch] entered the room.
[07:57] <mpradha> (01:23:49  IST) mpradha: "/usr/local/bin/qemu: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by /usr/local/bin/qemu)
[07:57] <mpradha> (01:23:49  IST) mpradha: /usr/local/bin/qemu: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /usr/local/bin/qemu)
[07:57] <FloodBot1> mpradha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:58] <amir270311> My problem is that using samba , i can print just one time from ubuntu 10.04 to window server , after that it gets stuck
[07:58] <amir270311> any suggestions?
[07:59] <bazhang> mpradha, MINT Is not supported here. please stop asking for support of MINT here
[08:01] <miaqinas> hi everyone.. LOVE Ubuntu
[08:10] <jnhghy> How can I see what program is using a specific file? I have python program that writes content to a file after that the file is used by thunderbird but in thunderbird I get error: unable to load file it may be read only or locked by another application. the file is not read-only
[08:11] <wasanzy> hi
[08:11] <vlt> jnhghy: lsof maybe
[08:12] <wasanzy> my Empathy is not working in Gnome, when I click on accounts, so that I can add new accounts, nothing comes up, am using ubuntu 13
[08:12] <miaqinas> hi wasanzy
[08:12] <wasanzy> hi miaqinas
[08:12] <wasanzy> how are you?
[08:12] <ihre> How can I log (e2)fsck results? /var/log/fsck/{checkfs,checkroot} are both empty.
[08:13] <miaqinas> fine., thanks..are u working with ubuntu studio 1304
[08:14] <wasanzy> miaqinas: I use ubuntu 13.04
[08:16] <miaqinas> wasanzy: may i ask u something?
[08:19] <wasanzy> miaqinas: Go ahead
[08:23] <[twisti]> i lost connection while doing apt-get update
[08:23] <[twisti]> now when i try to run it, i get this error
[08:23] <[twisti]> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:23] <[twisti]> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:23] <[twisti]> i mean, i lost connection while doing that over ssh on another server
[08:23] <[twisti]> can i just rm that lock file ?
[08:24] <pascal`> Hey guys, some user has accidentally deleted some important files on one of our servers and I could use some advice. Anyone around?
[08:25] <[twisti]> pascal`: my advice: learn how to do automated backups
[08:25] <wasanzy> [twisti]: you can do this ps aux | grep apt-get  to see the process and kill it
[08:25] <pascal`> Thanks for your help twisti.
[08:26] <[twisti]> sorry pascal, best ive got ;)
[08:26] <wasanzy>  ps aux | grep dpkg also can show you I think
[08:26] <pascal`> The drive only has one partition and I can only access the machine remotely. Nobody is in the remote office today to help me out.
[08:27] <DJones> !recover | pascal` This is about the only help I can suggest in the bots links,
[08:27] <pascal`> I want to avoid anymore write to the partition so that I can use some recovery tools next time somebody is colocated with the machine to help me out.
[08:27] <DJones> pascal`: I think for pretty much all of them, you need physical access to the machine
[08:27] <pascal`> Yes, thanks DJones, I'm aware of the tools.
[08:28] <[twisti]> thanks wasanzy, i think that worked, there was a bad process left that i killed
[08:28] <pascal`> Back to my original point. I need some advice. What's the best way to remotely ensure no more writes are made to the partition?
[08:28] <wasanzy> [twisti]: good
[08:29] <pascal`> I can't remount as read only, since I'm SSH'd in. I guess I could get it to remount as read only on the next boot, but that's about all I can think of right now.
[08:29] <pascal`> And I guess that would all kill my remote access.
[08:30] <[twisti]> "I can't remount as read only, since I'm SSH'd in" <- i dont get how A leads to B
[08:30] <[twisti]> cant you just manually force an unmount ?
[08:30] <pascal`> Well
[08:30] <pascal`> bash keeps a file open (apparently) for the SSH session.
[08:30] <pascal`> Which means the FS is busy and can't unmount/remount.
[08:31] <skraito> hi all
[08:31] <skraito> any ubuntu or canonical hr here
[08:31] <skraito> i would like to join your company
[08:33] <pascal`> "$ sudo mount -r -o remount /"" gives "mount: / is busy"
[08:33] <[twisti]> ah, well, for what its worth, im pretty sure thats because youre logged in, so if you were to put a script in crontab and log out, i think that might work, but you rpobably wont be able to log back on no matter what you do
[08:33] <[twisti]> i guess you already knew that
[08:33] <pascal`> Yes.
[08:33] <wasanzy> my Empathy is not working in Gnome, when I click on accounts, so that I can add new accounts, nothing comes up, am using ubuntu 13
[08:34] <pascal`> The home directory of my virualbox user was somehow deleted.
[08:34] <pascal`> Along with quite a few GB of VMs ;'(
[08:34] <pascal`> And I can't figure out how that happened.
[08:38] <sander^work> Finally.. Managed to install ubuntu 13.04 :-)
[08:38] <NewWorld> great :)
[08:39] <miaqinas> sander^work: cong!!
[08:39] <sander^work> but startx dosn't work. and I get straigt into text mode.
[08:40] <sander^work> got an samsung 9 series laptop which should work with ubuntu.
[08:41] <sander^work> (ee) open /dev/dri/card0: NO such file or directory
[08:41] <sander^work> (ee) VESA(0) V_BIOS adress 0xd00 out of range
[08:42] <sander^work> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have usable configuration
[08:43] <Pricey> sander^work: Odd, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SamsungSeries9 suggests you shouldn't see these problems..
[08:46] <sander^work> Pricey, How can I confirm that the firmware is the same as on the windows7 model? compeard to my windows 8 model?
[08:49] <sander^work> Pricey, Let me see. It's model code: NP915S3G-K02SE
[08:51] <Pricey> sander^work: I'm afraid I don't know.
[08:52] <omg_scout> ATI gfx, they always cause problems
[08:53] <sander^work> There are a number of different Series 9 lines: NP900X3A, NP900X3B, NP900X3C, NP900X3D, NP900X3E, NP900X4B, NP900X4C, NP900X4D.
[08:53] <sander^work> Seems like my model dosnt show here.
[08:54] <sander^work> Damnit!
[08:54] <sander^work> The installation had grafical interface.
[08:57] <hadifarn_> how can I force wget to use parallel connections to download a file? like download manager for windows
[08:57] <jpds> hadifarn_: I don't think you can with wget.
[08:58] <hadifarn_> jpds: too bad. can I using Curl?
[08:59] <jpds> hadifarn_: You could use aria2
[08:59] <jpds> !info aria2 | hadifarn_
[08:59] <fidel> hadifarn_: first google hit shows a possible alternative called 'aria2'
[08:59] <hadifarn_> thanks jpds
[08:59] <hadifarn_> cool
[09:00] <just_me> Hi everybody, I have a problem with cmu-pocketsphinx and the bindings for Python. Here is the error while "import pocketsphinx" http://paste.ubuntu.com/6153651/ .... Can someone help me please?
[09:08] <coker89> People....i have a question??
[09:09] <Myrtti> yes I would agree, you do
[09:09] <coker89> Somebody...... You know about channel irc in spanish??
[09:10] <Myrtti> coker89: ubuntu channel?
[09:10] <coker89> My english is so bad
[09:10] <DJones> coker89: There is an Ubuntu support channel for spanish language, #ubuntu-es
[09:10] <coker89> Yes
[09:10] <coker89> Really???
[09:10] <Myrtti> yes.
[09:10] <coker89> Is very simple....thanks
[09:14] <BrixSat> Morning. I have a server (dual xeon ) with ubuntu desktop in there. The problem is it does not have graphics card able to support full hd. Can i use a  computer with a decent graphics card and use it?
[09:15] <qin_> BrixSat: as X forward?
[09:15] <ikonia> BrixSat: you don't need full HD
[09:15] <BrixSat> qin_:  yes like that.
[09:15] <ikonia> BrixSat: you can either a.) use a lower spec desktop environment b.) see if your card needs configuring correctly to support the standard ubuntu desktop
[09:15] <BrixSat> ikonia:  yes i do!
[09:16] <ikonia> BrixSat: ubuntu does not need a full hd card to run, it just needs 3d accelleration
[09:16] <BrixSat> ikonia: i know that :)
[09:17] <SupaSol> Hello :)
[09:17] <ikonia> ok ? have I missunderstood your question
[09:17] <BrixSat> ikonia:  but being a machine a server it would not have a 3d capable card right? so i would like to use its super performance combined with my normal computer and a super graphic card to be able to get a fast system,
[09:18] <ikonia> BrixSat: you want to use it "with your computer" ?
[09:18] <BrixSat> ikonia:  i want server for cpu and my pc for gpu.
[09:18] <ikonia> BrixSat: many servers have 3d capable cards in them
[09:19] <ikonia> BrixSat: it doesn't work like that
[09:19] <wylde> BrixSat: you won't get "super" performance out of a forwarded x session
[09:19] <ikonia> BrixSat: what is the make / model of your server
[09:19] <ikonia> the forwarded X session is still run on the local card and just exported to the remote machine
[09:20] <ikonia> well, depending on how you are actually forwarding
[09:20] <BrixSat> ikonia:  i have a fujitsu primergy tx 100 s1
[09:20] <ikonia> BrixSat: do you know what video card is in that ?
[09:21] <BrixSat> ikonia: vga compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI es1000 ( rev 02 )
[09:22] <ikonia> BrixSat: ok, so an AMD, that should support it with a little bit of effort (hopefully not checked the driver compatability matrix)
[09:23] <ikonia> BrixSat: are you sure that's the right model, as the manual says it only supports 1 cpu
[09:28] <BrixSat> ikonia:  positive, it show in the lspci :)
[09:29] <[twisti]> BrixSat: may i ask what you are trying to do that for ? like, what are you trying to run like that ?
[09:31] <ihre> (how) Can I log (e2)fsck results? /var/log/fsck/{checkfs,checkroot} are both empty.
[09:34] <Bo_DK> Q: I just got ubuntu loaded on my BBB, building a baloon tracker platform so have made my own cape for this with a gps chip... can read gps data etc but i need to ssh and fire 3 commands as root after each boot.... is there a way to do this automatic? have looked everywhere but not figured how
[09:34] <Bo_DK> www.wattoo.dk
[09:34] <Bo_DK> upps
[09:34] <Bo_DK> chmod 666 /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
[09:34] <Bo_DK> echo ttyO1_armhf.com > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr*/slots
[09:34] <Bo_DK> gpsd /dev/ttyO1
[09:35] <Bo_DK> those are the commands i have to fire as root
[09:35] <mydog2> hi.. trying to quickly port a test py app  from centos to ubuntu
[09:35] <BrixSat> [twisti]:  have  aremote ubuntu running as local
[09:35] <Bo_DK> then its all working and i can start tweaking my python code so it uses gps data
[09:35] <wylde> Bo_DK: /etc/rc.local?
[09:35] <Bo_DK> tried that
[09:35] <mydog2> trying to find out where/how to get a python lib -- libxml2dom..
[09:36] <Bo_DK> its sttill not running it
[09:36] <Bo_DK> noted this
[09:36] <mydog2> tried easy_install, as well as pip.. with no luck.. any other sugestions?
[09:36] <Bo_DK> every time i do this by hand it asks for root pass
[09:37] <Bo_DK> let me copy out rc.local... could have done it wrong
[09:37] <wylde> Bo_DK: have you tried a sleep before the commands are sent?
[09:38] <Bo_DK> nope.... total new... or almost total new to linux world
[09:38] <Bo_DK> been away for far to many years
[09:39] <wylde> Bo_DK: like (I'm sure this isn't correct but to get he idea out) sleep 60; command
[09:39] <Bo_DK> worth a try....
[09:41] <BrixSat> ikonia:  any hint?
[09:41] <wylde> mydog2: apt-file
[09:41] <wylde> !apt-file | mydog2
[09:42] <varunendra> Bo_DK, are you aware that any commands in rc.local file should be added 'BEFORE' the last line "exit 0"? It is very important
[09:42] <BrixSat> ikonia:  i think solution is XDMCPServer
[09:42] <Bo_DK> yes :-D
[09:42] <Bo_DK> that i know
[09:42] <Bo_DK> *lol*
[09:44] <Bo_DK> side Q to this... running on the BBB is comes up with this usb storage thing... how is it that i disable that? will only use usb for power and dont need the usb network part
[09:45] <ikonia> BrixSat: I don't think that is the solution at all
[09:45] <BrixSat> ikonia:  so what would you sugest?
[09:45] <wylde> !blacklist | Bo_DK
[09:46] <ikonia> BrixSat: I'd first confirm the server model so you know what you are working with, the manual says it only supports one socket
[09:46] <Bo_DK> ok, willl try and figure on my own
[09:46] <Bo_DK> sure not the first one to ask
[09:46] <BrixSat> ikonia:  one socket of? cpu? yes correct this one yes
[09:46] <ikonia> BrixSat: oh, you said you had dual xeon
[09:47] <ikonia> dual = 2
[09:47] <BrixSat> i have another one with dual xeon that i would love to use if this works
[09:47] <omg_scout> Bo_DK: is there a reason not to use init.d?
[09:47] <BrixSat> ikonia i have another one with dual xeon that i would love to use if this works :)
[09:47] <ikonia> BrixSat: right - so focus on what you are currently working on
[09:47] <BrixSat> ikonia:  :) ok thks
[09:47] <ikonia> biophoton: so the graphics card in that is an AMD ?
[09:47] <Bo_DK> omg_scout: nope.... as said total new after way to many years away from linux
[09:47] <Bo_DK> just trying to figure how to do it
[09:48] <Bo_DK> the above suggestion with sleep did not work
[09:48] <Bo_DK> also i almost need to be spoonfeed the way to do it
[09:48] <Bo_DK> basic just 3 commands to do
[09:48] <Bo_DK> first as root
[09:48] <Bo_DK> next does not matter
[09:49] <ikonia> biophoton: oops, sorry wrong nick
[09:49] <ikonia> BrixSat: so the amd card in your machine, have you looked at what it's capable of ?
[09:49] <omg_scout> Bo_DK: init.d will for sure run those commands.
[09:49] <omg_scout> !init.d
[09:49] <mydog2> apt-file libxml2dom or apt-file search libxml2dom returns ""
[09:49] <Bo_DK> oki... wil try
[09:50] <mydog2> in 11.04 - running pip install libxml2dom apparently worked..
[09:50] <sander^work> Looks like Samsung 9 series laptop with product number NP915S3G-K02SE needs latest kernel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.1-saucy/ and this firmware: https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers/+files/linux-firmware_1.113~p~gd_all.deb
[09:50] <BrixSat> ikonia:  i know that ubuntu is running with graphics handled by cpu and not gpu
[09:50] <mydog2> i've got 12.04
[09:50] <Bo_DK> first one ischmod 666 /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
[09:50] <ikonia> BrixSat: graphics is not handled by cpu
[09:50] <ikonia> BrixSat: why do you think that ?
[09:50] <sander^work> Else else xorg dosn't work.
[09:50] <omg_scout> Bo_DK: If you have some troubles feel free to write, I am in work, but can help you with most basic problems there
[09:50] <BrixSat> every time i move a window cpu increases to 50 / 60%
[09:51] <Bo_DK> omg_scout: init.d is a folder right?
[09:51] <BrixSat> ikonia:  every time i move a window cpu increases to 50 / 60%
[09:51] <sander^work> How can I be helpfull and add that info to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SamsungSeries9  ?
[09:51] <ikonia> BrixSat: that means nothing
[09:51] <ikonia> BrixSat: that could be as simple as your card
[09:51] <omg_scout> Bo_DK: yes, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[09:51] <BrixSat> ikonia:  ok... i did not knew
[09:51] <ikonia> BrixSat: that could be as simple as your card not being configured
[09:51] <omg_scout> but there are better tutorials on the web propably
[09:52] <ikonia> BrixSat: so checking what you card can do, and configuring it correctly (if possible) would be the first thing
[09:52] <Bo_DK> omg_scout: anything that works
[09:52] <BrixSat> ikonia: where do i start?
[09:52] <ikonia> BrixSat: checking your cards capabilities, and what xorg modules it needs to work, eg: the open ones, or the propitary ones
[09:53] <BrixSat> ikonia:  lspci show 01:07.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI ES1000 (rev 02)" and the menu about this computer shows "Galium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.2, 128 bits)" which one is correct?
[09:53] <ikonia> BrixSat: that's something you'll need to check as I have no idea what a gallium is
[09:55] <MickS> Bo_DK: are you sure all of those 3 commands ain't working from the rc.local? Or is it just the last gpsd command that fails to start? The last one could be because of the PATH not being set. Did you try specify full path for the command? And do you see something in the logs why they fail to run?
[09:56] <Bo_DK> MickS: yes.... tried it
[09:56] <BrixSat> ikonia:  any channel where i can get a more acurate precision help?
[09:56] <Bo_DK> MickS: its the first one i think...
[09:57] <jonascj> hi all. Do any of you know of a ppa or non-ppa package which contain the Lightning plugin for thunderbird 24.0?
[09:57] <Bo_DK> when i do it by hand from ssh it ask for root pass
[09:57] <Bo_DK> MickS: also keep in mind i remember jack sh.... from 10 years back
[09:57] <aethelrick> BrixSat, the ATI ES1000 is a light weight onboard graphics chip
[09:57] <Bo_DK> but doing some experiments now
[09:57] <Bo_DK> back later
[09:58] <MickS> Bo_DK: no worries. What does ask you for a pass, the ssh connection, or one of the command when you execute it?
[09:58] <saki`> okay so how do i wget this: http://bandcamp.com/download?from=email&id=7234239680&payment_id=447234213&sig=bf0d2c6234234f9f219&type=album
[09:58] <Bo_DK> the command....
[09:58] <Bo_DK> the first one
[09:58] <saki`> yeah but it stops at email
[09:58] <saki`> i'm guessing the & throws it off
[09:59] <aethelrick> BrixSat, the sort of thing that comes built in on your motherboard, it's not a discreet graphics card and is fairly underpowered for use with modern operating systems, it will struggle trying to run a 3D desktop environment. You may want to try Lubuntu?
[09:59] <Bo_DK> command is... chmod 666 /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
[10:00] <Bo_DK> have to do sudo first when i do it by hand
[10:00] <Bo_DK> ie sudo chmod 666 /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
[10:00] <MickS> Bo_DK: the chmod? That's a standard system command... that should never ask for a pass. It should fail if the privileges aren't enough.
[10:00] <MickS> ah!
[10:00] <MickS> Bo_DK: the sudo asks you for a pass then
[10:00] <Bo_DK> yeah.... its the only way i can make it work so far
[10:01] <ikonia> BrixSat: the obvious answer would be to contact fujitsu and ask them to confirm, but I'd suggest working from the AMD profile would be the wiser option
[10:01] <Bo_DK> trying to build a init.d script
[10:01] <Bo_DK> #!/bin/sh
[10:01] <Bo_DK> # Launching my app:
[10:01] <MickS> Bo_DK: the rc.local file should be executed ... so you should check if the chmod really isn't working, because it should
[10:01] <Bo_DK> chmod 666 /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots &          # <-- Don't forget the "$
[10:01] <Bo_DK> exit 0
[10:02] <Bo_DK> MickS: i did that... did not work
[10:02] <omg_scout> !paste
[10:03] <Bo_DK> the easy way to test is to fire cgps command after boot
[10:03] <saki`> Bo_DK: you just put it in single quotes apparently, like 'this'.
[10:03] <BrixSat> aethelrick: but cant i use it with a remote computer? like the server as cpu and my pc as gpu
[10:04] <Bo_DK> saki`: ie 'chmod 666 /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots'
[10:04] <Bo_DK> ??
[10:05] <aethelrick> BrixSat, is this card in a server or desktop machine? it should be OK as a thin client or a server, but it's not going to be any good at games or rich modern desktops
[10:05] <Bo_DK> brb
[10:07] <Bo_DK> so
[10:07] <Bo_DK> in rc.local i just put each command in single quotes?
[10:07] <Bo_DK> each command one a line by it self?
[10:08] <wylde> Bo_DK: I think they were referring to their own issue with wget breaking at an unquoted &
[10:08] <Bo_DK> wylde.... ok...
[10:08] <jokoon> hello
[10:08] <jokoon> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx I found this
[10:08] <BrixSat> aethelrick: its a server fujitsu primergy tx100 s1
[10:09] <jokoon> is this supposed to work on all macbooks ?
[10:09] <Bo_DK> me relly confused.... not using wget at all....
[10:09] <Bo_DK> and saki` was writing to me so assumed it was for my issue
[10:11] <aethelrick> BrixSat, OK, so as a server, you should not need a desktop software on it! you can certainly connect to it from a client machine and have it do work for you. What are you trying to achieve? I don't see the weak graphics card as a problem as it should not be in use most of the time on a server.
[10:11] <MickS> Bo_DK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6153858/  <-- /etc/rc.local
[10:12] <jokoon> anyone having a mac here ?
[10:12] <aethelrick> jokoon, I have a mac book pro
[10:12] <jokoon> how old ?
[10:12] <tengopreguntas> hi everyone.
[10:12] <aethelrick> jokoon, not running ubuntu though
[10:12] <jokoon> because my cd driver is busted
[10:12] <jokoon> oh
[10:14] <tengopreguntas> Question: does anybody know how can i find out the full file name of a package that Is already installed in my system. this would be the same name as the file stored in /var/cache/apt/archives/ but i don't know that name.. is there a tool for that? is the the same name the `dpkg -repack PACKAGE` would create
[10:15] <BrixSat> aethelrick: i would love to use a second computer with a decent graphic card as a "remote graphic card" to the server. Being the server only cpu.
[10:16] <aethelrick> BrixSat, that sounds fine, what do you want to use the server for?
[10:17] <van7hu> hi, is gradle too big?
[10:17] <BrixSat> aethelrick: i develop software and mostly netbeans java apps and so on, not usable for gaming or things like that
[10:17] <van7hu> I want to install, but it asked for 326MiB from repository in ubuntu
[10:17] <ikonia> BrixSat: is there a reason you are doding the simple and most effective solution of actually just configuring the card on your server
[10:17] <aethelrick> BrixSat, i.e. what applications are you going to run on the server that you want to connect to from your client. Their are lots of options here and without understanding your goal I can't help you get there
[10:17] <MickS> tengopreguntas: you can use apt-cache show <packagename> and check for the Filename in the output
[10:18] <ikonia> BrixSat: the simple solution is to configure the AMD graphics card in the server, and use i
[10:18] <tengopreguntas> MickS: i will try that. let me see
[10:18] <BrixSat> ikonia:  i have tried it for a few days no success
[10:18] <ikonia> BrixSat: I'm sorry - but you've not
[10:18] <BrixSat> aethelrick: i would like to be on my computer as i would in the server so not jus X forward of some apps
[10:18] <ikonia> BrixSat: because when I asked you about that you have no idea what card / info to use
[10:18] <EtgarDizz> hi all, can i ask a question? i've looked in the forum and google and can't find a similar case...
[10:18] <ikonia> BrixSat: configure the AMD card correctly, and you should be able to use it fine, which will make running things locally easier and better performance
[10:19] <BrixSat> ikonia:  amd driver failed to install
[10:19] <ikonia> BrixSat: which driver ? why did it fail to install ?
[10:19] <BrixSat> ikonia:  give me a minute :) ill post a log
[10:19] <ikonia> BrixSat: runing things like compiling over X11 will not use your machines power as it will be slow due to having to draw everything over the network
[10:19] <ikonia> you are approaching this wrong
[10:20] <ikonia> BrixSat: actually try to fix the problem than persist pushing a solution that is not what you actually need.
[10:20] <axtheb> Hello. I have a problem that I dont know where to start looking for source. I have ubuntu (raring) on my notebook, it spends lots of time in dockingstation with two displays. Sometimes, when I press any of the volume buttons that are on the notebook it changes resolution to 1152x864 and showing the same picture on both screens
[10:20] <qin_> BrixSat: either virtualisation, or xforward (whole x) or cluster, I suspect you will have tons of fun testing solution, since none will utilize full potential of desktop gpu
[10:20] <axtheb> It happens after I put it in the dockingstation
[10:21] <aethelrick> ikonia, what is he trying to actually do?
[10:22] <EtgarDizz> my problem is this: i have ubuntu 13.04 on a netbook. every 20 sec or so the computer "hangs" (i can the graph in System Monitor freeze, or a video i'm streaming pauses). if i touch an arrow key or plug in/out a usb it "wakes up" just fine.
[10:22] <EtgarDizz> so it's not frozen completely... how can i prevent this?
[10:22] <ikonia> aethelrick: he has a xeon "server" and for some reason things the AMD card in it is not powerful enough to run the desktop, so wants to run an exported X11 desktop over the network onto his desktop with a more powerful GPU so the visual is rendered by his desktop and the processing by his server
[10:22] <ikonia> aethelrick: basically - a bad concept
[10:23] <tengopreguntas> MickS: that worked, thanks a whole LOT
[10:23] <aethelrick> ikonia, yup, sounds like a person used to using windows remote desktop to a server to get it to do work for him
[10:23] <ikonia> exactly
[10:23] <MickS> tengopreguntas: you're welcome
[10:23] <ikonia> however the concept is different, so a bad idea to push in linux
[10:23] <ikonia> however, I now have other things to do
[10:23] <simpleuser> Hi there. I'm using the internet access from my university. The problem is that there's a proxy: i have to set my browser to detect automatically the proxy settings, or i should use a "PAC" script or enter directly the address and port of the proxy. Noob question: is there a way to use other protocols (like git) than http on this?
[10:23] <axtheb> ikonia: not at all. There are many thin X clients that do exactly that
[10:23] <simpleuser> By "encapsulating" the packets? Using a VPN? Thanks
[10:25] <aethelrick> BrixSat, I use my server to compile stuff for me and host my development projects, I do not use X11 from it at all. My server does not have X installed, it is headless. I usually use an SSH session to configure it, but mostly I connect to it using applications. i.e. remote debug a Java service from Netbeans etc I don't think you should even need a desktop installed on a server. It's not needed.
[10:27] <aethelrick> BrixSat, if you want to deploy a war file, use your network (Samba), or winscp (SSH), if you want to use remote debug configure your IDE to connect to tomcat or glassfish on the server in debug mode. You do not need a graphical desktop on your server for this stuff
[10:28] <Pupeno> What's the default recipient for cron email?
[10:32] <axtheb> BrixSat: If I understand what are you tryind to do, installing 'ldm-server' on the server and 'ldm' display manager on client computer will allow you to tunnel the desktop over network.
[10:33] <BrixSat> axtheb: thanks :D
[10:33] <axtheb> BrixSat: But I am afraid you will be disappointed, as the network is quite an bottleneck
[10:33] <Cell_> Hello! Does anyone here own a Dell N5110?
[10:34] <BrixSat> ill have to see for my self axtheb
[10:38] <EtgarDizz> anyone? a question about a netbook that semi-hangs?
[10:39] <Anonymous> hi
[10:39] <Guest16255> nice
[10:39] <Guest16255> how are you all?
[10:40] <EtgarDizz> does any1 have exp with a copmuter behaving this way?
[10:40] <Guest16255> what do you mean?
[10:40] <rymate1234> EtgarDizz: What do you mean?
[10:41] <EtgarDizz> i have ubuntu 13.04 on a netbook and every 30 sec or so the computer SEEMS like it freezes, but not really - a touch of any key makes it wake up
[10:41] <EtgarDizz> i can see the graph in system monitor freeze, and when i touch anything it starts again
[10:41] <EtgarDizz> same for streaming video from this computer over LAN
[10:42] <Guest16255> weird!
[10:42] <ArielX__> hmm
[10:42] <EtgarDizz> in beginning i thought it's stuck but it's not. the keypress "brings it back" like nothing happened
[10:42] <Guest16255> where are you from ArielX_ ?
[10:43] <MrQuist> so guys
[10:43] <MrQuist> https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1265062_10201937997481974_1055351408_o.jpg <- left one (update with ubuntu stickers)
[10:43] <Guest16255> it runs by USB?
[10:43] <MrQuist> or right one (update with green biohazard stickers)
[10:44] <EtgarDizz> no it's installed on the hdd
[10:50] <Guest16255> im looking for a solution to ur problem
[10:53]  * Dr_Willis laughs at skynet. ;)
[10:56] <EtgarDizz> thanks Guest16255
[10:59] <OerHeks> EtgarDizz, hard to say what freezes your system, does var/log/syslog or less var/log/dmesg give a clue?
[11:02] <Hisb0hla> <لغة البرنامج النصي = 'JavaScript1.1'
[11:02] <Hisb0hla>   بطبيعة الحال، يتم تدريس اللغة الإنجليزية والتحدث بها في أفريقيا. ومع ذلك، مقابلة وزير الخارجية الكيني امينة محمد يغذي التخمين، التي تنص على الأجانب مع أو بدون جذور الصومالية، شاركوا في الهجوم يمكن.
[11:02] <FloodBot1> Hisb0hla: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:03] <EtgarDizz> OerHeks, can't see anything suspicious right now, I will have to wait for it to happen again to try and catch onto something
[11:04] <EtgarDizz> ooo just happened :(
[11:05] <EtgarDizz> OerHeks, here's what happened: to test it out, I tried transferring a file through smb. in the middle of the transfer it hangs, when i touch a key it unfreezes and i get "connection timed out" on the other computer.
[11:06] <EtgarDizz> from less /var/log/syslog: the only thing worth mentioning is "The canary thread is appearantly starving. Taking action". what's this?
[11:08] <axtheb> EtgarDizz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/86974/what-is-the-canary-thread-and-why-is-it-starving
[11:08] <Bo_DK> to run this command from rc.local i have to put in single quotes right? echo ttyO1_armhf.com > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr*/slots
[11:09] <EtgarDizz> OerHeks, i also have "smbd main process (###) killed by HUP signal" in /var/log/dmesg
[11:09] <jonascj> If anyone saw me ask about a winamp like setup for Ubuntu I just wanted to report back that Guayadeque player is the best thing I've tried for linux yet. Build-in support for "global" hotkeys (pretty good default config)!
[11:09] <EtgarDizz> thanks axtheb :)
[11:11] <axtheb> EtgarDizz: Pay atention to the small note above Answers section
[11:12] <EtgarDizz> axtheb, you say this cos u're familiar with this bios settings causing this kind of problem?
[11:12] <Bo_DK> or should i do something else to do it?
[11:13] <lemao> Are there existing solutions to have upstart jobs in one machine send events to other machines, i.e. distributed upstart?
[11:14] <axtheb> EtgarDizz: not this kind of problem, but others
[11:15] <EtgarDizz> axtheb, i can't find anything from that time about acpi. u think i should change bios regardless?
[11:18] <axtheb> EtgarDizz: Hard to say. If there are no warnings/errors I's say it wont help. But I think it will not hurt;)
[11:18] <EtgarDizz> axtheb, i can't find this setting in my bios anyways :)
[11:22] <bitnumus> hi, can someone tell me how to add firefox or chromium to the 'sounds' application? only rhythmbox is listed as an application but i need to control browser volume.
[11:24] <Head_Phone> isnt that done automatically?
[11:24] <rubic> Only applications currently open and currently producing sound are listed under applications
[11:24] <esdx> Hello, btrfs-convert actually does not works with ext4 due to an upstream bug, there is a patch but it hasn't been approved yet (some week passed), now my question is there is a way to apply the patch (https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/2828820/) to a recipe in launchpad?
[11:24] <Guest86531> hey
[11:25] <Guest86531> clear
[11:26] <Frank81> esdx that should be possible
[11:26] <Frank81> if you use the original package that patch is for
[11:26] <Frank81> then you can applay it without problems
[11:28] <tengopreguntas> i realized when i run a command with `fakeroot -u cmd | grep "something"; grep doesn't work. but if i use sudo, instead of fakeroot, it works just fine. anybody knows a workaround?
[11:28] <esdx> Frank81: thx for the answer, what do you mean by original package? Can I apply the patch even if it is not hosted in a bazaar branch in launchpad, or I need to create one for that?
[11:29] <jrib> tengopreguntas: explain what you mean by "doesn't work"
[11:30] <tengopreguntas> well, it will not filter anyting. all will go through the screen
[11:30] <bitnumus> rubic, so how can i get it to 'stick' there?
[11:30] <bitnumus> i have occasional beeps from certain tabs in firefox that i want to control
[11:30] <jrib> tengopreguntas: are you sure your command isn't producing output to stderr?
[11:30] <rubic> bitnumus, not that I know of.
[11:30] <tengopreguntas> jrib: well, it is sterr what i am filtering
[11:31] <bitnumus> well thats pretty crappy.
[11:31] <jrib> tengopreguntas: | only works on stdin
[11:31] <jrib> tengopreguntas: | only works on stdout
[11:31] <bitnumus> so if i want to listen to music at a decent volume, but don't want ear-piercing beeps from firefox
[11:31] <jrib> tengopreguntas: try "|&" instead
[11:31] <bitnumus> i'm stuck with damaged hearing?
[11:31] <bitnumus> cool
[11:31] <tengopreguntas> jrib: but it is working most of the time...
[11:31] <rubic> change it while its making the sound
[11:31] <jrib> tengopreguntas: give specific examples.
[11:31] <rubic> lemme try it
[11:32] <bitnumus> rubic, not sure if thats possible, i've never actually seen it there being as the beeps are 1second long
[11:32] <tengopreguntas> jrib: oh.. wait. a warning will not be part of stderror, will it?
[11:32] <bitnumus> and if it worked like that, surely that variable must be stored somewhere?
[11:32] <axtheb> bitnumus: play something from the browser, like grooveshark or last.fm and it should appear in the volume control
[11:32] <jrib> tengopreguntas: that's up to the program
[11:32] <tengopreguntas> it's dpkg-repack. i was filtering some warnings that i don't want.
[11:33] <jrib> tengopreguntas: use "|&" and see what happens
[11:33] <glebihan> tengopreguntas, it's up to each program, but the norm would be for the warnings to do to stderr
[11:33] <bitnumus> axtheb, yes you are right,  its says ALSA plugin container
[11:33] <bitnumus> lets see if that sticks on browser restart
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> i got 4 media players in my speaker/volume control list.. that i never use. ;)
[11:35] <bitnumus> Ok this is kind of stupid then, so i have to find something to play through browser to change it each time ?
[11:35] <bitnumus> why can't it just be locked there?
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> bitnumus:  you can end up with a lot of useless items.. like that are in mine - i guess
[11:35] <bullicon> help with iptables, I need to accept incoming connection on port 5000 ?
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> recording works the same way. I have to set cheese to start recording. befor i can change the input its using
[11:35] <jrib> bullicon: did you setup any iptables rules?
[11:35] <bitnumus> Dr_Willis, so have the option to remove
[11:35] <bullicon> jrib no I have not
[11:36] <jrib> bullicon: then nothing should be blocked
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> bitnumus:  theres no option to remove. so its sort of a moot argument
[11:36] <bullicon> jrib I think I did, but cant remener
[11:36] <jrib> bullicon: sudo iptables -L    will show you
[11:36] <bullicon> yeah
[11:37] <bitnumus> Dr_Willis, i'm saying there should be
[11:37] <bullicon> http://pastebin.com/KYDnqu6v
[11:37] <bitnumus> its pretty crap as it is
[11:37] <bullicon> jrib
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> !brainstorm | bitnumus
[11:37] <rubic> bitnumus, it remembred my volume level for firefox
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> No more brainstorm factoid. ;) guess brainstorm is finally dead
[11:37] <bitnumus> rubic, yea it did
[11:37] <IamTrying> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6154108/ - I have HDMI monitor connected and when i do speaker-test why its not making any sound ?????
[11:37] <bitnumus> but i have to load up last.fm or something just to edit it ?
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> I dont see a volume control when playing a vid in chromium
[11:37] <bitnumus> any idea where its stored? i'm rather write something to change it via terminal
[11:38] <bullicon> jrib I'd expect ACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere to accept all ?
[11:38] <jrib> bullicon: default is to have no rules
[11:38] <tengopreguntas> jrib: |& worked for one line , but not for another... weirdddddddddddd
[11:38] <bullicon> jrib yeah, I followed some security setup
[11:38] <jrib> !iptables | bullicon
[11:38] <bullicon> so I must have blocked some ports
[11:39] <jrib> bullicon: you can read about how to add iptables rules on the wiki
[11:39] <bullicon> i don't have time to do that now
[11:39] <jrib> bullicon: ok?
[11:39] <bullicon> I need to urgently open up that port, and will read up when I get home
[11:39] <tengopreguntas> jrib: sorry, my bad, it DOES WORK. there was a little type in my second grep regex. thanks a lot.
[11:39] <jrib> tengopreguntas: no problem
[11:39] <bullicon> Iptables syntax is not very friendly
[11:40] <jrib> bullicon: you can use ufw if you prefer.  The syntax for opening up a port in iptables is not bad at all though, imo
[11:40] <bullicon> jrib its just not obvious what its doing
[11:40] <bullicon> it also seems rules overrides rules?
[11:41] <bullicon> jrib so how do I simply open up 0.0.0.0:5000  ?
[11:42] <TJ-> bullicon: The iptables output you pasted should be accepting connections to every port. Please show the complete iptables output, including interface names, use "sudo iptables -S", since it may be an issue with the interface name not being listed
[11:43] <bullicon> TJ-> http://pastebin.com/96jRWqhR ?
[11:43] <TJ-> bullicon: Also, which interface do you need to have open, and have you confirmed there is a process listening on that interface/port combination?
[11:44] <bitnumus> rubic, i installed  alsamixergui, but that does the master volume, for me firefox using a container of this i think
[11:44] <bitnumus> so must be stored elsewhere, if you could find out that would be great
[11:44] <bullicon> TJ-> its a simple python process I manually invoke for development purposes.
[11:44] <TJ-> bullicon: As I thought. Your anywhere rules are assigned to the local interface only.
[11:45] <TJ-> bullicon: Is the interface you want to listen on eth0 ?
[11:45] <bullicon> its loopback ?
[11:45] <miaqinas> hi there..i got the problem my games..PES2013.,how to install it in ubuntu 13.04? anyone else?
[11:46] <TJ-> The process listens on 'lo' (127.0.0.1 usually) ?
[11:46] <bullicon> 0.0.0.0
[11:47] <TJ-> bullicon: Is the process listening for TCP or UDP connections, or both?
[11:47] <bullicon> TCP
[11:47] <bullicon> TJ-> and I just changed the process to listen to 127.0.0.1 but its not still
[11:48] <TJ-> bullicon: OK. "sudo iptables -I INPUT 1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 5000 -j ACCEPT" will insert that as the first rule in the INPUT chain
[11:48] <bullicon> TJ-> ok
[11:49] <miaqinas> ubottu: please help my prob
[11:49] <TJ-> bullicon: That rule will apply to all interfaces, as per your '0.0.0.0' requirement
[11:50] <TJ-> bullicon: If that doesn't work I'd be suspecting that your process is listening on IPv6 and ip6tables INPUT policy is defaulting to DROP
[11:50] <bullicon> how do I tell if my process is listening to IPv6 ?
[11:50] <bullicon> cos its not working
[11:51] <TJ-> bullicon: "sudo netstat -lntp | grep 5000" will show all processes listening on port 5000
[11:52] <bullicon> ok sweet
[11:52] <bullicon> TJ-> it works now
[11:53] <bullicon> TJ-> thanks
[11:54] <sadfsdfdsfsfds> hello i have a cd with ubuntu server can i easy turn it into an ubuntu desktop?
[11:54] <sadfsdfdsfsfds> it should i just download the iso burn it and install that one
[11:54] <bullicon> TJ-> what does -p and -m mean ?
[11:54] <bullicon> -p == protocol I guess?
[11:54] <TJ-> bullicon: "-p" is protocol; "-m" means module
[11:55] <bullicon> so -p and -m will always be either tcp or udp ?
[11:55] <nbubuntu> anyone know any android phone dev channel ? I have problem with adb
[11:55] <TJ-> bullicon: "-m tcp" loads the TCP module, which has the --dport parameter amongst others
[11:55] <OerHeks> sadfsdfdsfsfds, you can easily install ubuntu-desktop on top of the server.
[11:55] <TJ-> bullicon: "man iptables" for all the details of the modules and their parameters
[11:55] <bullicon> TJ-> I see
[11:56] <sadfsdfdsfsfds> OerHeks and is it the same as an ubuntu desktop then ?
[11:56] <bullicon> TJ-> so multiport is a module as well ?
[11:56] <TJ-> bullicon: Yes
[11:56] <OerHeks> sadfsdfdsfsfds, sure, basicly ubuntu server is the same base
[11:56] <bullicon> TJ-> sweet got itnow
[11:57] <bullicon> how do I save this rule on Ubuntu ?
[12:00] <TJ-> bullicon: Depends if you're using ufw or not. Manually, we usually have a line in /etc/network/interfaces that loads the saved netfilters rules as soon as an interface comes up. the commands "iptables-save" and "iptables-restore" are used to write/read a text file in the "iptables -S" output format. On my servers that file is "/etc/iptables-ethX.save" where ethX is the i/f name
[12:01] <lillo> ubuntu
[12:02] <Raven> Allo Allo
[12:03] <Head_Phone> bonjour rené
[12:03] <Raven> How are you?!
[12:12] <photon> Any idea on how to do this with scripting?: I have thousands of folders, each of which contains only one subfolder. Now I want to copy all files from that subfolder to the parent folder itself. Example: ./Physics\ Docs/ contains the subfolder Documents/ as its only entry, and I want all files in Documents/ to be moved to ./Physics\ Docs, and the empty Documents/ folder deleted.
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> be very carefull with spaces in filenames/paths. :) I learned that the hard way once.
[12:14] <Ben64> photon: you could try asking in ##bash
[12:14] <photon> Dr_Willis: I know, that's why I chose that example. :) But if you don't expect them in your script, your script is broken.
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> may be safer for it to copy each file to some directory,  just incase theres some weirdness. like identical file names
[12:15] <zimbo> i just 'upgraded' from 12.10 to 13.04 - my pointer now flashes when moving it accross the screen
[12:15] <zimbo> ?
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> I had a bunch of torrent files with japenese characeters once really goof me up.
[12:15] <zykotick9> Ben64: while ##bash still works, the channel is #bash ;)
[12:15] <zimbo> i am using gnome (removed unity before the upgrade)
[12:15] <rubic> bitnumus, I dont know where those config files would be kept. The way I have always operated without it is setting the volume to low on firefox and the music player to high. From there I can change the master volume to lower when I play music and higher when I need firefox's audio.
[12:16] <photon> Dr_Willis: Anime porn? ;)
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> photon:  actually it was some Anime Sound Tracks/mp3 files
[12:16] <zimbo> Dr_Willis: sure it was ;-)
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> I couldent even move the files in windows.. had to boot to linux to just rename them :)
[12:18] <Ben64> zykotick9: bah i can never remember which are # and which are ## ... i thought it was # if official, and i didn't think #bash was official
[12:18] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:18] <zykotick9> Ben64: i hear ya.  in this case both will lead to the same spot ;)
[12:18] <Vermoot> Hi !
[12:19] <anvo> How do I copy-paste the debugging info from Apport...?
[12:20] <Vermoot> Having a little trouble with my setup : I installed 12.04 on an IDE hard drive via VirtualBox with full access to the HDD, and now when I try to boot it I'm stuck with "Verifying DMI Pool Data" :/
[12:20] <Vermoot> (I guess it's a BIOS issue but maybe you guys would know how to help me)
[12:21] <anvo> Vermoot: You should alter the options for your HDD's and CD/DVD's... I cannot recall the optimum ones, for now...
[12:21] <daftykins> Vermoot: that's a very interesting installation method. did you do it that way because you lacked a way to get that old system booting?
[12:22] <daftykins> (e.g. booting USB or from a CD/DVD ?)
[12:22] <TJ-> Vermoot: That message originates in the BIOS. It sounds as if you've not correctly set the BIOS boot device order to find/use the hard drive
[12:22] <Vermoot> daftykins: I was on an OSX setup with an ISO and no Cd/DVD to burn or USB to boot on, yes
[12:23] <anvo> Anybody...? How do I copy-paste the debugging info from Apport...?
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if you could have used dd to image the iso to a small primary partion at the start of the hd...
[12:23] <zykotick9> anvo: if you can highlight it, (with it still highlighted) try middle mouse click to paste to where you want.
[12:23] <anvo> Can't highlight
[12:23] <tengopreguntas> here i go with another question. i want to capture the result of dpkg-repack, to know whether it excetured succefully or not, i know this is stored in $?, the thing is that i am piping with grep the results of dpkg-repack, so now in $? is the response from grep, is there any way to store the response of dpkg-repack in another variable and still by able to filter the stderr. THANK YOU
[12:24] <tengopreguntas> will i have to save the stderr to a file, and read it from there?
[12:25] <Vermoot> TJ-: Well I'm trying to boot using "Boot Menu" at start and then choosing the HDD on which I installed ubuntu
[12:25] <Dr_Willis> Vermoot:  so this is on Apple Hardware?
[12:26] <jokoon> hello
[12:26] <jokoon> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[12:26] <jokoon> I have a macbook pro 5,5
[12:26] <Vermoot> Dr_Willis: Nope (Hackintosh)
[12:26] <jokoon> I followed this tutorial
[12:26] <TJ-> Vermoot: What kind of partition table did you install, MBR or  GPT?
[12:26] <daftykins> Dr_Willis: an Apple system wouldn't verify DMI Pool data ;)
[12:26] <jokoon> but my usb drive boot doesn't show up when I press alt
[12:27] <Vermoot> TJ-: I guess it's GPT. The bootloader I have installed on another HDD (used to boot OSX) sees the IDE HDD as "Unknown GPT Partition". When I choose it to try and boot on it via this bootloader, nothing happens.
[12:29] <TJ-> Vermoot: I'm thinking that you also need to add a hybrid MBR - sounds as if that BIOS doesn't understand GPT, otherwise, you should see some sign of GRUB at least trying to start. ... Does the PC report "No boot device" or similar, or just sit there silently once you've choosen the boot device?
[12:29] <Vermoot> TJ-: It's stuck at "Verigying DMI Pool Data" with no further information
[12:30] <TJ-> Vermoot: Usually a BIOS will report "No boot device" if it can't find a device to read sector 0 from. From your description it sounds as if the BIOS reads sector 0 from the hard drive, which should be the GRUB boot-strap, but that code can't find the next GRUB stage code.
[12:31] <TJ-> Vermoot: Are you able to take the drive back to OSX and Virtualbox, and use "gdisk" to create a hybrid MBR ?
[12:32] <IamTrying> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6154108/ - I have HDMI monitor connected and when i do speaker-test why its not making any sound ?????
[12:33] <Vermoot> Well here's how I've been kinda dumb. This ubuntu setup. Was supposed to be a back-up OS to boot to if (when) I had any problems with setting up a new OSX installation
[12:34] <Vermoot> So I have erased my Snow Leopard setup to install Mavericks, and now that I can't properly boot on Mavericks (hey it's a hackintosh, of course you can't properly boot right from the beinning :D), I wanted to fall back to ubuntu. BUT...
[12:35] <Vermoot> So now I have a ubuntu setup I can't boot on, and an OSX setup I can only access in tty
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> time to..punt! ;)
[12:37] <daftykins> aww Dr_Willis you made him leave!
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> some people cant handle punts? ;)
[12:37] <Vermoot> Ooos
[12:37] <Vermoot> Oops*
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> Second half! ;P
[12:37] <Johnny_Linux> lol
[12:38]  * Johnny_Linux the crowd goes wild
[12:39] <Vermoot> And you might think I could do something with the computer I connected to IRC with... PLOT TWIST, it's an iPad.
[12:39] <TJ-> Vermoot: The ISO you have... is only a file on the OSX installation, not a CD/DVD ?
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> Vermoot:  well for rooted android phones/tablets ive seen a thing thats let  you boot a pc from an ISO file via their usb cable. ;) but no idea if ipads can dvdn do a similer task
[12:40] <Vermoot> TJ-: Well yeah it was until I formatted that installation
[12:40] <saki`> Dr_Willis, that sounds sweet
[12:40] <saki`> what is it?
[12:41] <saki`> as in, is it on the appstore?
[12:41] <TJ-> Vermoot: Lets step back a bit. "Verifying DMI pool" appears *after* you choose the boot device, or before?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> saki`:  I for get its name. found it in the android market.  every time i try to use it. some update has always un-rooted my tablet. :) and i got to re-root it.. so i never  manage to actyally try it
[12:41] <ihre> TJ-: thanks for the tip from yesterday, I did fix my problem with the deleted files in /proc/*/fd/*
[12:42] <Vermoot> Dr_Willis: I guess it's possible on android devices because you can use the SD card as a mass storage device, thus using it as a bootable volume. No such luck on an iPad
[12:42] <TJ-> Vermoot: I'm thinking that right-now, we don't have enough evidence to prove that this is a GPT/MBR/Boot-loader issue. It could be that is fine but the BIOS is failing prior to loading the boot-sector.
[12:42] <Vermoot> TJ-: After.
[12:42] <TJ-> ihre: Cool, thanks for letting me know
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> night all..
[12:43] <ihre> TJ-: I had to restart some applications, after that ~12G was cleared
[12:44] <TJ-> Vermoot: OK. I've been doing some research on DMI Pool. It is kept by the BIOS in NVRAM and sometimes this issue can be cleared by resetting NVRAM, either by a BIOS option to return to factory defaults, or by physically removing for 30 seconds or so the button-cell battery (if any) that keeps the Real-Time Clock/NVRAM chip powered.
[12:44] <Vermoot> TJ-: Precisely : Power button, BIOS splashscreen, press DEL to enter boot menu, choosing to boot from HDD, then choosing which HDD I want to boot from.
[12:44] <TJ-> ihre: Yeah, I've been through that a few times... it is so counter-intuitive!
[12:45] <daftykins> TJ-: you are making some very curious leaps here ;)
[12:45] <ihre> dcope: have you fixed it yet ?
[12:45] <TJ-> Vermoot: Did this HDD replace another that was installed? I'm wondering if the BIOS is using DMI data about the previous drive? Also, I'm wondering if the BIOS is in AHCI mode and the device is regular IDE/ATA
[12:46] <TJ-> daftykins: I've been through this stuff myself in the dim distant past; there's a whole raft of related options for clearing the underlying cause, which all show the same symptom
[12:47] <igor2> hi all, got a problem with my graphics, can anybody help?
[12:47] <ihre> !help | igor2
[12:47] <sadfsdfdsfsfds> where can i find an ubuntu desktop thats fits on a cd
[12:47] <sadfsdfdsfsfds> the ubuntu desktop ofrom ubuntu.com is 742 mb.........
[12:47] <SwashBuckla> Hi there  -- I am trying to write a well-behaved upstart job, and want to invoke some command when "restart" is called: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#restart
[12:47] <SwashBuckla> How do I do this?
[12:48] <Vermoot> TJ-: The HDD has been there for ages. The BIOS is currently in IDE mode but I think the problem is the same with AHCI mode.
[12:48] <TJ-> Vermoot: OK, the potential issue I was thinking of was the other way around - an IDE-only drive with a BIOS trying to use AHCI
[12:48] <igor2> my monitor is detectet but i can't change resolution
[12:48] <SwashBuckla> there is a pre-start, a post-start, a pre-stop, a post-stop... I can't seem to find what state the process is in when restart is called ala `service <service> restart`: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#restart
[12:49] <ihre> sadfsdfdsfsfds: try the netboot installer, and install ubuntu-desktop from a terminal after the install
[12:49] <sadfsdfdsfsfds> ihre can i also use ubuntu server for this ?
[12:49] <Vermoot> TJ-: Wait no the BIOS was set to AHCI mode. But I disabled it and it's still the same.
[12:49] <sadfsdfdsfsfds> i do have a cd rom with ubuntu server on it
[12:49] <surface-vermin> both will work
[12:49] <sadfsdfdsfsfds> okay
[12:49] <igor2> my monitor is detectet but i can't change resolution.. heeelp
[12:49] <TJ-> Vermoot: OK, there's one thing we haven't tried yet. Long-shot but worth checking. Reboot the PC and hold down the Shift key as soon as you've selected the drive to boot from... if GRUB is being loaded *and* getting to the point where it is in control, it should at least try to display a menu and tell you about problems.
[12:49] <ihre> sadfsdfdsfsfds: I haven't tried to install ubuntu-desktop on ubuntu server tbh
[12:50] <surface-vermin> when finished the expert command line install use tasksel
[12:50] <surface-vermin> will bring up a menu
[12:50] <surface-vermin> and pick ubuntu desktop
[12:50] <surface-vermin> or any one that is listed
[12:50] <ihre> sudo apt-get install taksel it is I believe, sudo taksel after
[12:51] <ihre> tasksel*
[12:51] <igor2> my monitor is detectet but i can't change resolution
[12:51] <surface-vermin> no as root just run tasksel or sudo tasksel
[12:51] <TJ-> Vermoot: Otherwise, if it were me, I'd now be opening the PC up and removing the battery for the RTC/NVRAM and having a mug of tea whilst I waited for the internal capacitors to drain
[12:51] <Vermoot> TJ-: No such luck :/
[12:51] <profil> Hello, I reinstalled ubuntu and now at boot I am not asked for passphrase to decrypt my root disk, how can I tell the system (grub?) to ask me to enter passphrase?
[12:52] <igor2> my monitor is detectet but i can't change resolution.. heeelp!
[12:53] <alwaysLearn> Can anyone tell me why I am not prompted for wifi password at public wifi spots ?  Also does not open to start URL for hotspot
[12:53] <Elspuddy> hello, what is the latest version of java (Oracle) ???
[12:53] <daftykins> TJ-: the CMOS reset jumper would be far quicker
[12:53] <Vermoot> TJ-: I think I'm gonna go and buy the first ubuntu magazine or such that has a live D
[12:53] <igor2> my monitor is detectet but i can't change resolution.. heeelp!
[12:53] <surface-vermin> profil dpkg-reconfigure grub may help i think it will ask if you what a password protect
[12:53] <Vermoot> Live DVD in it, from which I'll be able to boot and do anything
[12:54] <alwaysLearn> igor2:  try xrandr at terminal and see what resolutions are listed
[12:54] <TJ-> Vermoot: You said there was still OSX command-line access from the 'other' HDD. Maybe we can use that to at least get some access to this problematic one and check the basics of the boot-loader
[12:54] <igor2> 640x512 is highest
[12:55] <igor2> but it can take 1024x768
[12:55] <TJ-> Vermoot: I'm not sure if magazines carry such things any more? Not seem a printed mag in years!
[12:55] <Vermoot> TJ-: We can try that, but I'm not sure I can access this IDE HDD from there. Let's try
[12:55] <alwaysLearn> igor2:  what GFX card ?
[12:55] <igor2> Geforce 5500
[12:55] <alwaysLearn> igor2: are you on new install ?  do you have drivers yet/
[12:56] <Vermoot> TJ-: Oh yes I can find that in maybe 15 minutes, here in France there still are a couple magazines
[12:56] <alwaysLearn> igor2: i believe that is grub default resolution
[12:56] <igor2> The problem appeared since i installed nvidia driver, before he got the right resolution but quite bad experience
[12:57]  * goldenfox -.-
[12:57] <profil> surface-vermin: nothing happens, its just finish without asking anything
[12:57] <igor2> now i took the monitor of my girlfriend, set it to 1024x786 and changed back to my monitor and it works.. (but still my girlfriends monitor in settings and after restart it switches back to my one and the bad resolution)
[12:59] <alwaysLearn> igor2: i wish i could help more but I use built in intel.  I looks like your gfx drivers are not loading or something.  try    inxi -G    in terminal
[12:59] <Ben64> igor2: whats the issue?
[13:00] <igor2> inxi: command not found
[13:00] <alwaysLearn> inxi -G    ?
[13:00] <igor2> my monitor is not detectet corectly
[13:00] <TJ-> igor2: That sounds as if your monitor is not passing EDID information back to the video adapter, so it adopts the lowest common denominator resolution for safety.
[13:00] <alwaysLearn> anyone now of a Steam chat ?
[13:00] <alwaysLearn> TJ-: does inxi not come with ubuntu?
[13:01] <igor2> but when i look into nvidia x-server settings he at least have the right name of the monitor
[13:01] <llutz> alwaysLearn: not by default
[13:01] <surface-vermin> profil have you looked here ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Passwords
[13:02] <TJ-> igor2: If you have the nvidia driver, then it should also report the Native Resolution of the monitor in the details tab, along with a button to "Acquire EDID..."
[13:02] <zykotick9> surface-vermin: ahhh grub-password is NOT the same as encyrptedfs-password....
[13:02] <Vermoot> TJ-: yeah that's what I thought. I'm in single-user OSX right now and 'ls /Volumes/' doesn't show my IDE drive
[13:03] <surface-vermin> sorry forgot the question really
[13:03] <Ben64> igor2: i have to leave in about 5 minutes, if you can explain --with full details-- the problem, i may be able to direct you to a solution
[13:03] <TJ-> Vermoot: I'd be lost with the Mac-specific stuff there, but I'm OK with the standard *nix tools
[13:03] <igor2> where can i find it?
[13:04] <surface-vermin> would chmod change it's read ?
[13:04] <TJ-> Vermoot: I'd have interpreted "Volumes" to mean file-systems, not raw drives outside of partition tables. Is my assumption incorrect?
[13:04] <Vermoot> TJ-: Well there's not much mac-specific stuff for now, i'm just logged in as root on a command line interface from my osx install
[13:04] <alwaysLearn> igor2: if TJ is right then you need to recognize monitor or it will always go to fallback mode
[13:05] <igor2> ben, i've a nvidia 5500 card with driver and fine stuff, but my monitor does not get the right resolution.. the one of my girlfriend works correctly..
[13:06] <Ben64> igor2: pastebin the output of "lspci | grep -i vga"
[13:06] <Vermoot> TJ-: ls /dev does show all of my disks (disk1, disk1s1, disk2 etc, just like sda1 sdb1 on linux)
[13:06] <igor2> but isn't there any posibility to set the corect resolution with my girlfriends monitor and save it somewhere, change back to my monitor and load the file each start up?
[13:06] <alwaysLearn> what monitor igor2 ?  You said it wasnt recognized right ?  Is it a compatibility issue?
[13:06] <igor2> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] (rev a1)
[13:06] <TJ-> igor2: It isn't too uncommon for monitor's EDID flash to get damaged (no idea how!) and report garbage (the data received on the PC is checksumed to check it is valid). The monitor might have that problem and the EDID is disregarded
[13:07] <Ben64> hmm
[13:07] <zykotick9> TJ-: honestly, if this monitor really has a native resolution of 1024x768 it must be ancient (by computer standards).
[13:07] <surface-vermin> so question is to encrypt the grub password while his /root partition is already encrypted ? wouldn't this already be encrypted if boot in " the root partition " ?
[13:07] <Ben64> zykotick9: fx5500 is ancient too
[13:08] <igor2> sory got kicked out :D
[13:09] <TJ-> surface-vermin: explain some more, your question is a little unclear
[13:09] <igor2> the nvidia settings says the right name "philips brilliance 151ax"
[13:09] <TJ-> igor2: It isn't too uncommon for monitor's EDID flash to get damaged (no idea how!) and report garbage (the data received on the PC is checksumed to check it is valid). The monitor might have that problem and the EDID is disregarded
[13:09] <Bo_DK> Q: omg_scout is trying to help me.... but we have some trouble....
[13:09] <Bo_DK> info:
[13:10] <TJ-> igor2: In which case, maybe the EDID is just incorrect... use the tools I suggested to read and decode it
[13:10] <Bo_DK> i have a beagle bone black
[13:10] <Vermoot> Damn, and for some reason I can't connect to irc.osx86.hu ... Is anyone able to ?
[13:10] <igor2> can't i tell the system to ignore that and just make a setting?
[13:10] <Bo_DK> need to run a few commands as root... at boot time
[13:10] <Bo_DK> one works
[13:10] <Bo_DK> but not the next
[13:10] <surface-vermin> some body asked to password encrypt his grub password, so mine turned into a two part question
[13:10] <Ben64> igor2: you should be able to set a custom resolution with nvidia-settings
[13:10] <TJ-> surface-vermin: OK, I thought maybe you were asking about LUKS-encrypted GRUB
[13:10] <jokoon> hello
[13:11] <otak> igor2, i have fx5200, it is indeed old and slow, works with nouveau though
[13:11] <jokoon> I installed lubuntu, I've got no wifi on my macbook pro
[13:11] <igor2> but the problem is
[13:11] <igor2> Unable to load X Server Display Configuration page:
[13:11] <igor2> The NVIDIA X driver on Dark-Knight:0.0 is not new
[13:11] <igor2> enough to support the nvidia-settings Display Configuratio
[13:11] <zykotick9> TJ-: well, i was partly wrong.  it's a 15" LCD monitor...
[13:11] <FloodBot1> igor2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:11] <Bo_DK> in rc.local i  have: chmod 666 /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
[13:11] <Bo_DK> that one works
[13:11] <Bo_DK> next is:
[13:11] <BluesKaj> otak:  have you tried nvidia-current ?
[13:11] <Bo_DK> chmod 666 /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
[13:12] <deepblue> hi, well,i have this /dev/sdb3 mounted but not shown in filesystem
[13:12] <otak> nope
[13:12] <Bo_DK> works if i do it from terminal
[13:12] <surface-vermin> which the question was if his root partition is already encrypted shouldn't the boot or grub password be encrypted if the boot directory is in the root partition
[13:12] <Bo_DK> but not from rc.local
[13:12] <BluesKaj> otak:  although nouveau is actualkly a pretty good driver for older cards
[13:13] <igor2> otak, ye i lke my old pc, speed does not matter, but without the right resolution its hard
[13:13] <otak> yup it doesn't break but it has some strange lags when changing virtual desktops
[13:13] <igor2> the nvidiasettings don't let me set anything concerning resolution
[13:14] <Ben64> igor2: run "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[13:14] <surface-vermin> igor2 have you tried the nvidia-xconfig
[13:14] <igor2> oh
[13:15] <Bo_DK> anyone?????
[13:15] <igor2> VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[13:15] <igor2>                   Device section "Default Device" must have a Driver line
[13:15] <igor2> maybe this is the problem
[13:15] <Ben64> does /etc/X11/xorg.conf exist already?
[13:15] <surface-vermin> have you configure the nvidia xconfig yet ?
[13:16] <alwaysLearn> surface-vermin: I am about to update.  Are you trying to encrypt everything too?  What is hang up ?
[13:16] <igor2> yes
[13:16] <surface-vermin> alwayslearn sorry what's up ?
[13:17] <Ben64> igor2: what version of ubuntu are you running? what did you do previously that created an xorg.conf ? please pastebin the file, note that "pastebin" does not mean "paste here" it means go to pastebin.com and  paste it there, and give us the url to it
[13:17] <otak> I also had a problem with a screen not detected properly, smallest resolution - hugest font, failed to write my own xorg.conf, fixed it with Xft.dpi: 96.0 in ~/.xsession !
[13:18] <igor2> whaa.. got to see if that works at this resolution.. i'm glad to get in here
[13:18] <alwaysLearn> surface-vermin: I was thinking of encrypting my home folder but I heard it slows everything down.   I want to protect laptop from theives.   You were talking about encryptiong grub/harddrive ?
[13:18] <Ben64> changing the dpi will not change the resolution
[13:19] <Bo_DK> weeeeee
[13:19] <Bo_DK> i'm invisible
[13:19] <Ben64> Bo_DK: stop that
[13:19] <surface-vermin> oh no profil asked how to i asked if his root partition is already encrypted shouldn't his boot password be to if his boot is in the root partition
[13:20] <Bo_DK> Ben64: just having fun here
[13:20] <Bo_DK> and desperate
[13:20] <Ben64> Bo_DK: this channel isn't for fun, its for support only
[13:20] <Bo_DK> hehe... thats also why i'm here
[13:20] <Bo_DK> ie the support
[13:20] <jozefk> otak, you can setup the DPI in .xsession even if you have fonts.conf and Xresources and xrandr working in the same time?
[13:20] <zykotick9> Ben64: support can be fun ;)  that's why i'm here.
[13:21] <Ben64> yeah, but shouldn't just add to the spam by going "weeee"
[13:21] <zykotick9> Ben64: oh, "I" got your point.
[13:21] <WriteEscape> Hey everyone
[13:21] <TJ-> yeah... go to the loo like everyone else!
[13:22] <WriteEscape> i was wondering if someone here could walk me through how to setup teamspeak3 onto my dedicated ubuntu box
[13:22] <goles> hey guys, I'm having a problem when trying to mount a volume... I get Permission Denied, how can I get my user to have permissions to mount that volume? (it's a HD)
[13:22] <igor2> http://pastebin.com/wtXArV7K
[13:23] <Ben64> WriteEscape: sudo apt-get install teamspeak-server ?
[13:23] <localg0d> hey guys .. long time no see
[13:23] <alwaysLearn> surface-vermin: so, was the answer yes ?  I want to have different distros on my system, do I need to seprerate /boot ?
[13:23] <Bo_DK> Ben64: sorry for the weee thing
[13:23] <Bo_DK> but as said very desperate to a strange thing
[13:23] <zykotick9> goles: is the drive in fstab?
[13:23] <Bo_DK> omg_scout has tried to help
[13:23] <WriteEscape> Ben64: i feel like an idiot, i did sudo apt-get install teamspeak_server
[13:24] <Bo_DK> but basic what i want is 3 commands run at boot
[13:24] <Bo_DK> or after boot
[13:24] <igor2> Ben64, u get it?
[13:24] <Bo_DK> either way automatic
[13:24] <freannrak> I've got a problem with Intel Graphics 4000. Running 12.04 LTS on HP Folio 9470m. Under System->Details->Graphics it says Driver: Unknown & Experience: Standard. I guess that means that my graphics driver isn't actually installed (the colors are also a bit off). Should I install the driver manually from https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads ? If so, which version should I choose...
[13:24] <Bo_DK> so in rc.local i put:
[13:24] <goles> zykotick9: Actually it doesn't seem to be there hahah
[13:24] <Bo_DK> chmod 666 /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
[13:24] <Bo_DK>  
[13:24] <Bo_DK> echo ttyO1_armhf.com > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr*/slots
[13:24] <Bo_DK> gpsd /dev/ttyO1
[13:24] <FloodBot1> Bo_DK: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:25] <alwaysLearn> does install automatically make room for grub or do I need to make extra room for grub or /boot for multiple distros?
[13:25] <hadifarnoud> my 12.04 ubuntu refuses to startx. says running in low graphics and then exit to terminal
[13:25] <zykotick9> goles: true, well good luck.  i was going to suggest adding "users" as an fstab option.
[13:25] <otak> jozefk: I don't properly understand these things, yes I have ~/.Xresources, I am using openbox so..., it just seemed with pointing out, such a simple yet obscure fix
[13:25] <Bo_DK> hardware... beaglebone black
[13:25] <TJ-> Bo_DK: If any of those commands return non-zero results rc.local will stop executing... so check how those commands execute in the limited environment of root at boot time, as opposed to when you call them with sudo, su, or whatever.
[13:25] <Bo_DK> distro: ubuntu
[13:26] <jozefk> otak, I use LXDE which is not too different than openbox :)
[13:26] <Bo_DK> TJ-: they work if i enter them one at a time at terminal
[13:26] <goles> zykotick9: thanks :), it's been a while since I messed with fstab
[13:26] <Bo_DK> i have just been away far to long from linux world to figure this
[13:27] <TJ-> Bo_DK:  the problem will be the last command that definitely executes.. it will be returning non-zero. You can over-ride that return code with (i seem to recall) "mycommand || true"
[13:27] <TJ-> Bo_DK: yes, they may well, but the environment at boot-time (PATH, etc.,) is different!
[13:27] <alwaysLearn> For multiple distros, what partitioning do I need for grub /boot /root, etc ?      and what should I encrypt ?
[13:27] <zykotick9> goles: if you go the fstab route, you may (or may not) also be interested in "noauto"
[13:27] <TJ-> Bo_DK: It could be as simple as using absolute paths to the commands rather than relying on them being found on the PATH
[13:27] <freannrak> hmm, let me rephrase my question. Has anyone here been able to get Intel Graphics 4000 driver to work on 12.04?
[13:27] <Bo_DK> TJ-: so first thing is full paths right?
[13:28] <TJ-> Bo_DK: Snap :)
[13:28] <Bo_DK> TJ-: makes sense at least
[13:28] <TJ-> Bo_DK: Second is to amend rc.local to report the error when it happens
[13:28] <alwaysLearn> freannrak: intel built in GFX should be in kernel you are using I believe
[13:29] <Bo_DK> TJ- and the noob ask how to do that?
[13:29] <freannrak> alwaysLearn: but why is it showing Driver: Unknown under System->Details->Graphics?
[13:29] <TJ-> Bo_DK: You check the shebang line of rc.local you'll see it uses "sh -e" - the "-e" causes exit if any command returns non-zero result. You could, temporarily for debugging, add "set +e" to rc.local and some debug echo commands writing to a log file in /tmp/ or someplace to find out what the problem is
[13:30] <hadifarnoud> my 12.04 ubuntu refuses to startx. says running in low graphics and then exit to terminal
[13:30] <Ben64> igor2: try this one http://pastebin.com/tqVTBz7L
[13:30] <surface-vermin> alwayslearn no problem
[13:31] <TJ-> Bo_DK: E.g. "set +x" then after each of your commands a line of the form 'echo "CMD #1 returned $?" > /tmp/rc.local.log'
[13:31] <alwaysLearn> freannrak: try     inxi -G    in terminal to see what is being used
[13:32] <TJ-> Bo_DK: correction "set +e" NOT "set +x" !!
[13:32] <Ben64> alwaysLearn: stop suggesting that, it doesn't exist :|
[13:33] <Bo_DK> back... was attacked on mail
[13:33] <Bo_DK> bunch of q's for an energy saving project
[13:33] <llutz> !info inxi | alwaysLearn it is not installed by default and shouldn't be used at all
[13:33] <Bo_DK> doing absolute paths first
[13:33] <freannrak> alwaysLearn: hold on a sec, installing inxi
[13:34] <surface-vermin> lol no don't read above post
[13:34] <Ben64> freannrak: don't install inxi...
[13:34] <ANonAJ> hi
[13:36] <hadifarnoud> my 12.04 ubuntu refuses to start X. says running in low graphics and then exit to terminal.
[13:36] <freannrak> Ben64: why not?
[13:36] <alwaysLearn> freaky[t]: sorry, I am actually using MINT
[13:36] <zykotick9> hadifarnoud: details would help.  what graphics card "lspci | grep -i vga" if unsure.  did it ever work?
[13:37] <meimyself> is there any way to determine and/or modify the frequency of my wireless mouse?
[13:37] <alwaysLearn> freannrak: sorry, I am actually using MINT.  It is based on ubuntu
[13:37] <llutz> freinxi is a 3rd-party tool, spamming channels, just use "sudo lshw -C display" for detailed nfo on your graphics
[13:37] <Ben64> freannrak: theres no point to it
[13:38] <oscar_> my partition tables are a mess, i need someone who has serious experience with ssds/raid0/efi /dualboot win8+xubuntu. How to make an effective partion table without fucking up the raid0 (i hav eno access to the raid controler)
[13:38] <igor2> Ben64, u mean copy that into my xorg config?
[13:38] <loa> hello
[13:38] <loa> can't understand how i can stop start or restart squid under ubuntu?
[13:39] <loa> looks like systemd messed all up
[13:39] <Pici> loa: Ubuntu doesn't use systemd.
[13:39] <TJ-> loa: "sudo service squid3 restart" (squid3 note)
[13:39] <hadifarnoud> zykotick9: says ispci does not exist.  its a fresh install, so no did not work ever
[13:39] <loa> TJ-, this don't work
[13:39] <zykotick9> hadifarnoud: L not i
[13:39] <loa> squid don't restarts
[13:39] <freannrak> Ben64: http://dpaste.com/1395932/
[13:39] <loa> i see that becouse it always have same pid
[13:40] <hadifarnoud> ok
[13:40] <TJ-> loa: define "didn't work". Check the squid log files in /var/log/
[13:40] <Ben64> igor2: yes
[13:40] <loa> TJ-, i defined already
[13:40] <loa> same pid always
[13:40] <TJ-> loa: Have you previously started squid manually?
[13:40] <loa> and configuration don't change
[13:40] <loa> no
[13:41] <TJ-> loa: Is it currently running? "ps -efly | grep squid"
[13:41] <hadifarnoud> zykotick9: VIA Technologies KM400/KN400/P4M800 (S3 UniChrome) Rev 01
[13:41] <hadifarnoud> VGA Compatible controller
[13:42] <zykotick9> hadifarnoud: good luck with that.  sorry i have zero experience with VIA video.  good luck (you might need it i'm afraid)
[13:42] <TJ-> hadifarnoud: zykotick9 I seem to recall S3 driver support being dropped/deprecated recently? Which version of Ubuntu is this?
[13:42] <loa> TJ-, did you said something?
[13:42] <TJ-> loa: Is it currently running? "ps -efly | grep squid"
[13:42] <hadifarnoud> TJ-: 12.04
[13:42] <igor2> Ben64, it's done, now restart x-server?
[13:43] <Mocque> ,,
[13:43] <hadifarnoud> TJ-: why would they drop it? doesn't make sense.
[13:43]  * BTCFreak_  جميع القرود جعل جميع جعل جميع القرود لجعل القرود تجعل من كل القرود جميع لجعل القرود
[13:43] <hadifarnoud> I think its embedded graphic
[13:43]  * Olautze  جميع القرود جعل جميع جعل جميع القرود لجعل القرود تجعل من كل القرود جميع لجعل القرود
[13:43]  * BTCFreak_  جميع القرود جعل جميع جعل جميع القرود لجعل القرود تجعل من كل القرود جميع لجعل القرود
[13:43]  * Olautze  جميع القرود جعل جميع جعل جميع القرود لجعل القرود تجعل من كل القرود جميع لجعل القرود
[13:43] <FloodBot1> BTCFreak_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:43] <TJ-> hadifarnoud: apt-cache shows the driver should be "xserver-xorg-video-openchrome"
[13:43] <FloodBot1> Olautze: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:44] <loa> http://pastebin.com/Z3YpTmpr
[13:44] <TJ-> BTCFreak was trying to crash Apple iPads with the multiple font-direction change bug
[13:44] <loa> TJ-, funny thing that i can't stop it)
[13:44] <loa> i tried all methods
[13:44] <loa> it is like immortal
[13:44] <loa> so thought that systemd is here
[13:44] <Bo_DK> SORRY for those helping me.... got a phone call that will take time
[13:44] <loa> becouse i can't understand who restart it every time when i trying to kill it
[13:45] <TJ-> loa: "sudo kill -TERM $(pidof squid3)" ... if it is still running after that, do "sudo kill -KILL $(pidof squid3)"
[13:45] <tmmunq> !10.04
[13:46] <Mocque> I have a question.
[13:46] <oscar_> ask
[13:46] <tylertwo> Hey, I set it so my bash history could be over 2000 lines, but bash seems to ignore any entr
[13:46] <oscar_> and you might be heard
[13:46] <tylertwo> ies over 2000. Ie !2 works, but !2200 does not. Any idea why?
[13:46] <llutz> loa shorter: "sudo pkill squid3" or "sudo pkill -9 squid3"
[13:46] <Mocque> Can I do C++ on ubuntu 12.04?
[13:46] <tylertwo> Mocque: yes
[13:46] <TJ-> Mocque: yes, of course!
[13:46] <hadifarnoud> TJ-: looks like it's not driver issue? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man4/via.4.html
[13:46] <loa> TJ-, llutz it is only do restart as you see)
[13:46] <Mocque> How?
[13:47] <loa> stop even in 13.10 no systemd?
[13:47] <Mocque> Means, I can compile and execute the code?. If I'm not mistaken, Ubuntu can't read execute file right?
[13:47] <Pici> loa: no.
[13:47] <zykotick9> hadifarnoud: hardy is very old
[13:47] <loa> than i lost control
[13:47] <Pici> loa: Ubuntu does not use systemd at all.
[13:47] <loa> squid find aegis of immortal or it is skeleton king
[13:47] <llutz> loa: ubuntu uses upstart, is squid3 upstart-job  configured to respawn
[13:47] <surface-vermin> i thought ubuntu using it's own take on systemd
[13:48] <TJ-> hadifarnoud: Next, you need to look for errors in the X server log file "/var/log/Xorg.o.log" ... maybe help to pastebin that file
[13:48] <loa> how i can check it?
[13:48] <surface-vermin> yeah upstart
[13:48] <tylertwo> Mocque: you can compile and execute the code. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by your second question.
[13:48] <TJ-> Mocque: If Ubuntu couldn't read executable file... there'd be no Ubuntu!
[13:48] <loa> how i can stop upstart job?
[13:49] <llutz> loa: sudo stop squid3
[13:49] <zykotick9> loa: try "sudo service foo stop"
[13:49] <TJ-> Mocque: You can write, compile, link and execute C++ code on Linux and almost every other OS I know
[13:49] <Mocque> Oh. Okay. Sorry I'm newbie. So, what's the name of the software to C++?.
[13:49] <TJ-> Mocque: The GNU C/C++ toolkit, gcc, and associated tools
[13:50] <hadifarnoud> TJ-: https://gist.github.com/hadifarnoud/812c90567ef57d514125
[13:50] <loa> yes sudo stop squid3 worked nice
[13:51] <loa> sudo service squid3 stop did not
[13:51] <roychri> I am trying to rebuild a deb from source (ruby-mysql) but I have -lmysqlclient file in a different place. I changed the debian/config to not be dependant on libmysqlcient (because that is MySQL 5.5 and we need 5.6).  What file do I need to change to add /opt/mysql/server-5.6/lib/ to the LIBPATH ? I dont see any Makefile
[13:51] <TJ-> hadifarnoud: The error is clear: "(EE) CHROME(0): [drm] Failed to open DRM device for pci:0000:01:00.0: No such file or directory"
[13:51] <hadifarnoud> TJ-: maybe to you. what does it mean?
[13:51] <zykotick9> loa: hummm, sorry, perhaps i'm outdated on what ubuntu is using these days ;)  sorry.
[13:51] <Mocque> Alright thank you. :)
[13:52] <loa> zykotick9, i was too very outdated.
[13:52] <llutz> loa: "service" is for SysV-init
[13:52] <loa> llutz, so ubuntu use both?
[13:52] <TJ-> llutz: 'service' will read init.d/ and init/
[13:52] <llutz> even if it handles some upstart jobs, it's better to use "start/stop/restart"
[13:53] <llutz> loa: kinda, most sysv-jobs are controlled by upstart now
[13:53] <Vermoot> Damn, magazines are so expensive... Every ubuntu/debian/whatever magazine I culd find with a live CD/DVD inside cost 10€/$13 :/
[13:53] <llutz> TJ-: as you see it still fails at some points
[13:53] <loa> where i can read about video streaming using ubuntu?
[13:53] <Vermoot> Why is something free so expensive ? (I just care about the CD, not about the lagazine)
[13:53] <TJ-> hadifarnoud: That error leads to "DRM memory allocation failed -12" which means no access to video adapter memory
[13:53] <loa> just want understand what is "video streaming"
[13:54] <alwaysLearn> Vermoot: where you at ?
[13:54] <loa> for example if i watch web cam
[13:54] <localg0d> hey guys .. i have a legit question about live boot usb drives ....
[13:54] <loa> it is video streaming?
[13:54] <Vermoot> alwaysLearn: france
[13:54] <localg0d> Is pici around ?
[13:54] <TJ-> Vermoot: Did you get one?
[13:54] <alwaysLearn> Vermoot: most ones in US i have seen are about that or more,  but at least you dont have to download them ?
[13:55] <localg0d> Is it possible to live boot from a usb not only ubuntu but windows ? I want to create a live usb-drive that will allow me to boot either a live version of windows 7 or ubuntu . Any ideas ?
[13:55] <Vermoot> TJ-: Man, no way I'm paying that much money for a backup, I just want to run OSX properly :(
[13:55] <hadifarnoud> TJ-: driver issue I suppose? I read here http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/openchrome-users/2012-December/007079.html  I should use softpipe until further notice. I have no idea how to fix Xorg.
[13:55] <localg0d> also , how do i get into the ubuntu help channel ?
[13:56] <Vermoot> alwaysLearn: I'd download it gladly if I had a computer that would allow me to.
[13:57] <loa> thx to all who explain me situation with squid
[13:57] <alwaysLearn> Vermoot: find a linux machine with aria2c on it.  Can download with multiple connections X multiple mirrors !
[13:57] <loa> this was really weir for me
[13:57] <loa> another question, what i can check if screensaver don't work?
[13:57] <loa> wait i will explain clearly
[13:58] <loa> it work some time after boot
[13:58] <loa> but now it don't.
[13:58] <loa> i checked that gnome-screensaver is running
[13:58] <TJ-> hadifarnoud: Ouch! I do wish developers would learn not remove functionality until they've replaced it with the new stuff!
[13:58] <loa> and tried gnome-screensaver-command -a
[13:58] <loa> it switched on
[13:58] <otak> localg0d: you are in #ubuntu, there is also ##windows
[13:58] <Vermoot> alwaysLearn: I have a 100mbps connexion right here, but my computer currently has 2 unbootable OS :/
[13:59] <localg0d> otak : i know this . I prefer the intelligent information from linux rather than windows user ;-)
[13:59] <TJ-> Vermoot: You have OSX command-line, so maybe we should use some basic tools (dd, hexdump, less) to check the IDE drive appears to have a bootable config?
[13:59] <alwaysLearn> Vermoot: ouch.  what OS's?
[14:00] <Vermoot> TJ-: anything's a very good idea right now
[14:00] <TJ-> Vermoot: You may have to help me by finding the exact commands/reading man pages/correcting my Linux-isms :)
[14:01] <Vermoot> alwaysLearn: I have 12.04 on an IDE HDD that's stuck on "Verifying DMI Pool Data" while booting, and an OSX Mavericks installed that I can't properly boot on (hackintosh)
[14:01] <alwaysLearn> Vermoot: are you on a liveCD.  should have gparted will tell you
[14:01] <TJ-> Vermoot: I believe you can list disks using "diskutil list" ? Does that list the raw physical devices, or the logical  block devices (such as partitions), or just valid file-systems?
[14:02] <Vermoot> alwaysLearn: I'm connected to IRC on my iPad, so that's no help
[14:02] <TJ-> Vermoot: maybe we should take this stage private as we'll be talking BSDisms ?
[14:02] <BigRonnieRon> vermoot: can you use a friend or library PC and download unetbootin (very small file)?
[14:02] <alwaysLearn> Vermoot: sorry - i tried
[14:03] <TJ-> Vermoot: and anyone else wants to help Vermoot , /join #Vermoot
[14:03] <Vermoot> BigRonnieRon: That's the plan if I can't find any solution to my problems until my friend's out of school
[14:03] <mplex> I have 12.04LTS installed and seem to get a log of libgmodule unresolved symbols, for example with tshark: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgmodule-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_private_replace, any ideas?
[14:04] <mplex> I've seen this problem with a couple other packages as well, have no idea what's going on
[14:06] <hadifarnoud> TJ-: I tried to fixed it with xserver-xorg-video-openchrome package. now stuck at ubuntu screen.
[14:06] <TJ-> hadifarnoud: Might be best to remove the openchrome package, and rely on the VESA driver. At least you ought to get to a desktop session
[14:06] <c4leb> hello all ! is there a reiserfs guru "in da place" ? :)
[14:07] <hadifarnoud> TJ-: I'm not sure how to do that. just remove openchrome with apt-get?
[14:07]  * Mocque slaps Acce around a bit with a large trout
[14:08] <TJ-> hadifarnoud: Yes, "sudo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-opnechrome" ... but don't let it go on if it wants to remove lots of other packages too!
[14:08] <fudus> then it removes xorg ;)
[14:09] <zykotick9> TJ-: fyi "sudo apt-get purge foo" works these days... less typing.
[14:10] <meimyself> is there any way to determine and/or modify the frequency of my wireless mouse?
[14:10] <fudus> dmi error means busted bios, have you tried resetting settings in bios?
[14:11] <llutz> meimyself: determine: spectrum-analyzer, frequency-counter. to modify: needs some rf-knowledge (basically you cannot)
[14:13] <meimyself> llutz: do you know of any programs that can determine it for me?
[14:13] <c4leb> need some help here: my running ubuntu, i've got a soft-partition that i mount like that "mount /partition" i could mkdir directories, and a ls show me that they are created. But trying to use it they seems to be in the un-mounted partition...
[14:13] <llutz> meimyself: nope
[14:13] <ghoulmann> here for help with preseeding on 12.10.
[14:14] <c4leb> what is the properly way to mount a partition with it directories embeede in it...?
[14:14] <ghoulmann> i want to replicate package install and config from one machine to all other machines in lab. i'm getting an error on debconf-get-selections --installer > file
[14:14] <fudus> meimyself: the config is determined by the hardware maker, you'll need to ask them for a utily to change the channel
[14:15] <fudus> (read, good luck on non osx/win)
[14:15] <scavmartin> I need help with rpm build on ubuntu, anyone here who might be able to help?
[14:16] <meimyself> fudus: well its not really a big deal i suppose i just noticed my mouse was stuttering when playing a game and thought it might be my wifi but i think its iether the battery or its broken
[14:17] <meimyself> just thought that if i knew the frequency i could change the channel of my wireless so there would be less interference
[14:18] <fudus> if you change it in osx/win utility it might stay over in linux?
[14:19] <TJ-> meimyself: Is the mouse Bluetooth, WiFi, or proprietary? If the latter, the manufacturer's web-site should contain frequency information
[14:19] <meimyself> yea but its stuttering now no matter what im doing so its not interference i think
[14:20] <TJ-> meimyself: For Bluetooth and WiFi devices use spread-spectrum techniques. Stuttering can be caused by low battery condition
[14:20] <TJ-> meimyself: My BT mouse starts going off on its own when the batteries are low
[14:20] <jmgk> hi all
[14:20] <meimyself> TJ-: whats the difference between wifi and propietary?
[14:20] <meimyself> TJ-: i know and i think its the battery but i have to go out and buy some later
[14:21] <TJ-> meimyself: proprietary means it uses a license-free band shared with WiFi and Bluetooth and Microwave ovens and baby monitors, but may not play nicely in the presence of other devices, and be susceptible to interference too
[14:22] <meimyself> TJ-: its 2.4ghz but it doesnt say what channel so im not sure if its exactly 2.400 or not
[14:23] <llutz> meimyself: that usually means "somewhere in the 2.4GHz-ISM-Band",, you won't get further info from manufs in most cases
[14:25] <meimyself> shouldnt it be possible to determine the frequency if i put my wireless card in monitor mode though?
[14:25] <llutz> meimyself: it might not cover the same spectrum.
[14:26] <llutz> meimyself: wifi-devices are limited to a set of channels and to specific protocols
[14:27] <TJ-> meimyself: Ahhh, yeah, without more detail its hard to know if its using frequency-hopping or not. Batteries are #1 bet though
[14:30] <K1rk> Hey, anybody have experience with Broadcom drivers on 12.04 who might be able to shed some light on our intermittent connection issues?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2176483
[14:32] <OerHeks> K1rk, 500 pc's on wireless, how many wifi accespoints do you use?
[14:32] <freannrak> I'm running 12.04 LTS on HP Folio 9470m. The brightness adjusting buttons don't work even though I get a nice GUI when pressing those buttons. At this moment I'm able to adjust brightness from the command line only. Where would I start to fix this problem?
[14:32] <K1rk> OerHeks: No worries, we have around 70 APs in the building.
[14:33] <TJ-> freannrak: Does it have an Nvidia video adapter, and are you using the proprietary drivers?
[14:33] <daftykins> K1rk: in most guides they refer to removing bcmwl-kernel-source and using other drivers
[14:33] <freannrak> TJ-: how can I check that? I'm not quite sure.
[14:33] <daftykins> K1rk: is that the only one you're using?
[14:33] <hadifarnoud> ubtuntu get stuck at boot. I think there is a X related issue. how can I debug?
[14:34] <daftykins> K1rk: how are your APs configured also? the first reply to your thread raises the good point of the dangers of mixed-mode WPA1 + 2
[14:34] <K1rk> daftykins: We're having these issues on a non-encrypted SSID.
[14:35] <daftykins> K1rk: ah nm i just read further
[14:35] <meimyself> freannrak: try opening up a terminal and typing in "sudo lshw" and the looking for display
[14:35] <daftykins> sorry
[14:35] <K1rk> np
[14:35] <fudus> freannrak: in the boot menu, press e and add acpi_osi=Linux at the end
[14:35] <TJ-> freannrak: At the command line, "lspci -nn | grep VGA" and "grep 'NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA' /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[14:35] <freannrak> meimyself, TJ- : http://dpaste.com/1395980/
[14:35] <fudus> freannrak: if that doesn't work, try =Windows afterwards
[14:35] <freannrak> sec
[14:36] <meimyself> looks like youre using intel graphics to me
[14:37] <fudus> if either of those work, you'll need to change /etc/default/grub to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_osi=Linux" or Windows
[14:37] <TJ-> freannrak: OK, you have an Intel i915
[14:37] <daftykins> K1rk: have you seen http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/how-to-install-broadcom-wireless-drivers ?
[14:38] <freannrak> fudus: trying your solution, rebooting now
[14:38] <fale_> I've found a package (pdfsam) that is way out of date. I've managed to update it. How can I push it into the main repos?
[14:39] <K1rk> daftykins: Not sure if I've seen that one specifically... but we already have the bcmwl-kernel-source driver installed.
[14:39] <K1rk> daftykins: There's already some stuff that's been automatically blacklisted, as well... I could look into which drivers have been.
[14:40] <fudus> Linux invoking OOM Killer with 600MB+ spare RAM
[14:40] <fudus> yay for linux
[14:40] <daftykins> K1rk: no, they all say to *remove* the bcmwl-kernel-source package and show alternatives
[14:41] <K1rk> daftykins: Oh yeah I see that... at one point I remembered having to install firmware-b43-installer and b43-fwcutter while I had the bcmwl-kernel-source installed.  (This was way back on 10.04, I'm sure they're not that way now).  Let me check.
[14:42] <nem> i shutdown myu ubuntu box all the sudden, and after reboot it onoly allows my display to be in 1024x768 resoution when it was 1600x900 to being with
[14:42] <nem> anyone know what this could be caused by?
[14:42] <K1rk> nem: Driver not loading?
[14:43] <TJ-> nem: check "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for clues
[14:45] <home> bn
[14:45] <freannrak> fudus: neither of those worked (=Windows & =Linux). This is what my /etc/default/grub looks like now: http://dpaste.com/1395998/ ; Both times I edited the file I also did "sudo grub-update" and rebooted.
[14:45] <nem> it saying it loaded the drivers
[14:45] <K1rk> nem: The correct drivers?
[14:46] <K1rk> nem: For example for nvidia there are proprietary drivers and nouveau drivers
[14:46] <K1rk> nem: Just because drivers loaded doesn't mean they're the drivers you wanted.
[14:46] <K1rk> daftykins: I can confirm that b43-* is not installed.
[14:46] <nem> k1rk
[14:46] <fudus> don't know what is causing it then, os=Linux fixed it for my i915
[14:46] <nem> i have a older ati radeon in there
[14:47] <TJ-> freannrak: it's "update-grub" not "grub-update" ... was that just a typo on your part?
[14:47] <daftykins> K1rk: may be worth grabbing a test system from the wild and trying alternate drivers then
[14:47] <K1rk> daftykins: I'm on that right now.
[14:48] <nem> it was a sudden shutdown
[14:48] <nem> im not finding any errors in the logs at all
[14:48] <nem> this is weird
[14:50] <freannrak> TJ-: yeah sorry, I typed it backwards here
[14:51] <nem> xrandr --addmode VGA1 1600x900
[14:52] <lessless> how to use this solution http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.alsa.devel/109855  on ubuntu 13.04?
[14:52] <lessless> *apply
[14:53] <fudus> time for dumb suggestion: try taking out and replugging the vga, it sounds like ithe gpu isn't receiving res info properly from monitor
[14:53] <freannrak> fudus: what drivers are you using on your i915, nouveau or nvidia?
[14:53] <TJ-> freannrak: Add "acpi_backlight=vendor" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT, update-grub, and try again
[14:53] <fudus> he already tried that in his pastebin :P
[14:54] <fudus> i have a GM45, no nvidia
[14:55] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[14:55] <TJ-> freannrak: which kernel are you using? the function keys didn't work until kernel v3.10
[14:55] <Wiz_KeeD> Is there a way you can rename a user and have all the directories and files that he has permission to be renamed with him?
[14:56] <Wiz_KeeD> kinda like rename user user-x and have all the dirs that had him as owner go to user-x
[14:56] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[14:56] <TJ-> Wiz_KeeD: permissions are stored using the numeric ID so renaming a user won't upset that; the /home/$USER/ directory would need to be renamed though
[14:56] <Wiz_KeeD> other than the home TJ-?
[14:56] <freannrak> TJ-: I love you.
[14:57] <Wiz_KeeD> me too! :X
[14:57] <hayer_> How can I find out what login manager I am using?
[14:57] <TJ-> freannrak: Errr :) why? :D
[14:57] <freannrak> TJ-: http://dpaste.com/1396014/ worked
[14:57] <TJ-> freannrak: cool :)
[14:58] <freannrak> adjusting brightness with buttons seems like a luxury now
[14:58] <fudus> yay for acpi
[14:58] <freannrak> thanks TJ-, fudus
[14:58] <freannrak> now I just need to calibrate my LED display, the colors seem way off
[14:59] <nem> K1rk should i just use xrandr to add the modes?
[14:59] <K1rk> nem: Could try and see if that works, don't know that it would though.
[15:00] <hayer_> How can I find out what login manager I am using?
[15:02] <dan_> Does anyone know about the "update-ca-certificates" command/process?
[15:03] <andrew_> update failed and now both mouse and keyboard don't work, any ideas?
[15:04] <TJ-> dan_: what do you want to know?
[15:04] <dan_> TJ- I have some old 11.10 boxes, and I want to understand how to keep their CA certificates up to date, because I just ran across a stale one yesterday on s3.amazonaws.com
[15:04] <dan_> I ran update-ca-certificates and it fixed it, but from the man it looks like it only installs them locally
[15:05] <dan_> i dont understand the process by which ubuntu actually goes out and retrieves new certs
[15:05] <dan_> And if running update-ca-certificates is required periodically or when it's necessary for this purpose
[15:05] <K1rk> Hey daftykins
[15:05] <daftykins> yo
[15:05] <K1rk> daftykins: Installing the b43 drivers from that tutorial has actually rendered the wireless non-functional on this machine.
[15:06] <TJ-> dan_: update-ca-certificates simply updates the certs listed in /etc/ssl/certs/ from the certs installed in /usr/share/ca-certificates ... which come from the package  "ca-certificates"
[15:07] <daftykins> K1rk: ooh-err - perhaps it needs pairing with several other steps like the blacklisting and restarts to sort out the modules
[15:07] <K1rk> daftykins: I did do the blacklisting as well as described on the page.
[15:07] <dan_> TJ- Okay, that's what I was thinking. For some reason my ca-certificates package is up to date, but update-ca-certificates was never run so the new certs weren't being picked up
[15:07] <K1rk> daftykins: Just to be clear, I don't care, I can reimage this machine in 10 mins and grab another one.  But I don't think those drivers are going to work unless I'm doing something wrong.
[15:08] <TJ-> dan_: I'm not sure if the postinst script triggers update-ca-certificates... be interesting to know
[15:08] <daftykins> K1rk: nah that's fair enough. there was another one i'd seen but it was for a different broadcom module, installing a package called linux-restricted-firmware or something i think. probably won't help for your model
[15:08] <dan_> yeah, i believe it was not triggering it in my case
[15:09] <K1rk> daftykins: I think we came across the linux-restricted-firmware (I think it was linux-firmware-nonfree) and I think those drivers do work.  We're testing them on a few machines.
[15:11] <nem> K1rk xrandr: failed to get the size of gamma for output default
[15:12] <TJ-> dan_ looking at the postinst script it should run it when the triggers "update-ca-certificates" or "update-ca-certificates-fresh" is fired, which is done when dpkg --compare-versions is run in postinst
[15:13] <nem> k1rk
[15:13] <nem> that is weird
[15:13] <nem> i unplugged it and plugged it back in
[15:13] <nem> reran the command and it works
[15:13] <nem> the pci connection must be bad
[15:13] <fudus> percussive maintenance victory
[15:13] <dan_> TJ- thanks for checking. Maybe it used to not run in 11.10? For some reason I have a mismatch between package and actual certificates usde
[15:13] <dan_> *used
[15:14] <ingsoc> i am using 12.04 desktop
[15:15] <ingsoc> i have a keyboard button clash
[15:15] <ingsoc> super+ALT+up arrow
[15:15] <ingsoc> switches to workspace above
[15:15] <ingsoc> but also scatters windows in current workspace
[15:15] <ingsoc> which i don;t know where to set to stop doing this
[15:16] <ingsoc> any ideas ?
[15:16] <daftykins> K1rk: ah yeah that's the one. cool, hopefully that works better
[15:16] <daftykins> K1rk: i take it you've had a recent mission to move away from 10.04 which worked fine, then?
[15:17] <K1rk> daftykins: We've been off 10.04 on 1 model for over a year.
[15:17] <K1rk> daftykins: This is kind of a new problem.
[15:17] <K1rk> daftykins: We started phasing in Xubuntu 12.04 about a year and a half ago.
[15:17] <daftykins> ah ok
[15:18] <daftykins> and only now, issues?
[15:18] <K1rk> daftykins: Yeah seems that way.
[15:21] <nitish> Hello, I have some doubts regarding Ubuntu installation
[15:22] <K1rk> daftykins: What do you think about downloading the latest drivers from Broadcom and compiling them?  http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[15:22] <tonyt> ide advise against installing it then . you better off with AOL nitish'
[15:25] <daftykins> K1rk: wouldn't hurt - if it were me i'd be starting with a clean install fully updated each time and trying to spot the best
[15:26] <nem> k1rk that did not work, even after getting xrandr to recognize it
[15:26] <soulisson> Hi, i have an old version of Ubuntu Server (11.10), i would like to upgrade to the latest stable version, is apt-get dist-upgrade is going to work
[15:26] <soulisson> ?
[15:27] <nem> going to try to use the ubuntu unity desktop to change the setting
[15:27] <nem> maybe the kde front just cant set tyat up
[15:29] <TJ-> soulisson: You'll need to dist-upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04, then 12.04 to 12.10 then 12.10 to 13.04 (dist-upgrade will only do hops between LTSs. Last LTS was 12.04, next LTS will be 14.04)
[15:30] <soulisson> TJ-, ok thank you
[15:34] <freannrak> I'm unable to get color calibration to work (12.04) under Settings-->Color-->Select display-->Calibrate. The button is grayed out even though I have gnome-color-manager installed. Any ideas?
[15:36] <calabero111> hi
[15:37] <xsky> hi
[15:37] <mjayk> hi xsky
[15:37] <xsky> hello
[15:39] <zexcriz> is their any gui tool to manage openldap ?
[15:41] <Vermoot> What time is it in the US ?
[15:42] <LinuxGold> 11:41 AM EST (Delaware)
[15:42] <Vermoot> Thanks
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> Vermoot  US has multiple timezones
[15:43] <Vermoot> Yes I know but I just wanted to know if it was nighttime, morning, afternoon...
[15:43] <LinuxGold> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?sort=1
[15:43] <LinuxGold> Vermoot: it will be afternoon here and morning in California
[15:48] <lessless> folks, when music is played  the indicator on my soundcard goes green, but I can hear no sound :(
[15:48] <lessless> audinst hud-mx2
[15:54] <Munkeywaxx> Afternoon guys In need of assistance with java compilers VIA VPS (PuTTY). Basically, I'm trying to use a compiler, but it keeps spitting out errors.
[15:56] <Rory> Munkeywaxx: Can you please put the full error output and any commands you ran to produce it on http://paste.ubuntu.com - also what ubuntu version are you using?
[15:57] <Munkeywaxx> Whats the command to get ubuntu version?
[15:57] <Rory> Munkeywaxx: cat /etc/issue
[15:58] <Munkeywaxx> 12.04.1 LTS \n \l
[15:59] <Munkeywaxx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6155046/
[16:00] <Rory> Munkeywaxx: What did you run to produce that?
[16:00] <Munkeywaxx> bash Compiler.sh
[16:00] <Rory> Oh hang on I see your link
[16:00] <Rory> Wait wtf
[16:01] <Rory> Munkeywaxx: I'm not sure that colon belongs after -classpath lib/*
[16:01] <sairus> всем приветы
[16:01] <Munkeywaxx> I'll take it out and try it again
[16:02] <Rory> Basically Munkeywaxx the problem is you're calling javac with a flag it doesn't recognise. Has it ever worked?
[16:02] <Munkeywaxx> Nope. I've had no clear instructions for using any.
[16:03] <Rory> Munkeywaxx: Did you write this software you're compiling? Are you following a guide to install it?
[16:03] <Rory> Munkeywaxx: Also can you please let me know the output of: javac -version
[16:03] <Munkeywaxx> I've followed several guides, and none of them explain why javac doesn't work with ubuntu unfortunately.
[16:03] <Rory> Javac does work with Ubuntu, I use it every day
[16:04] <Munkeywaxx> java version "1.7.0_40" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_40-b43) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.0-b56, mixed mode)
[16:04] <nem> why is ubuntu registering my pci agp vga card as a "laptop" display?
[16:04] <Rory> The issue is you are not using it correctly, and this isn't even an Ubuntu support issue
[16:04] <Rory> Munkeywaxx: ^
[16:05] <Munkeywaxx> Hmm, Where would I go for a resolution?
[16:05] <Rory> Munkeywaxx: You should ask in ##java on this network
[16:05] <Munkeywaxx> Ok, thank you for your time.
[16:05] <fudus> it might be expecting Oracle's version, download their version from their webpage and run it
[16:05] <nem> why is ubuntu registering my pci agp vga card as a "laptop" display?
[16:06] <nem> only allowing 1024x768 resolution
[16:06] <antar> Hi
[16:06] <nem> i assume its cause i have an on board video card
[16:07] <antar> i am having a poor sound quality on skype for linux
[16:07] <Rory> antar: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[16:07] <fudus> try using a headset instead of the laptop's internal speakers
[16:07] <antar> 12.04
[16:08] <Topslakr> I have a machine that recieves a DHCP address, responds to ping during boot and then cannot ping or do anything else once the login prompt comes up. LTS 12, ufw is disabled. Any ideas?
[16:08] <fudus> my notebook had very loud static with the internal mic, headset worked great
[16:08] <cactuswizard> i got a problem with displays, because i want to use two displays, for example the other one having irssi open and the other one having firefox or something else
[16:08] <Rory> antar: Take a look at this answer if that doesn't work /etc/pulse/default.pa
[16:08] <Rory> !details | cactuswizard
[16:09] <antar> Rory, where
[16:09] <antar> Rory, you mean cat /etc/pulse/default.pa ??
[16:09] <Rory> Oops sorry antar I meant http://askubuntu.com/questions/157891/skype-and-vlc-sounds-sizzle-distorted-bad
[16:09] <cactuswizard> ubuntu version 13.04, display settings complain about timeout, i think it has something to do with resolution which doesn't seem to get right
[16:09] <Rory> cactuswizard: Do you know what graphics card/device you're using?
[16:09] <fudus> antar: are you using a headset or the notebook's inbuilt mic?
[16:09] <antar> Rory, Ok
[16:10] <rahul> hellow
[16:10] <cactuswizard> Rory, ATI Mobility, can't remember the model
[16:10] <Rory> Hello Guest19559
[16:11] <Guest19559> thanks fr the name rory
[16:11] <Rory> cactuswizard: Have you tried installing the drivers from the Additional Drivers program?
[16:11] <Rory> Guest19559: Sorry?
[16:11] <Guest19559> yeah rory
[16:11] <Guest19559> nothing
[16:11] <cactuswizard> Rory, oh, didn't even cross my mind... i'll try that
[16:11] <Rory> Guest19559: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[16:11] <Guest19559> yeah i have
[16:12] <V0dk4L3mm0n> hi
[16:13] <Guest19559> rory..are you there?
[16:13] <V0dk4L3mm0n> i have to install ubuntu on a intel atom. wich kind of architecture i have to download? x86?
[16:13] <spacecamp> Could someone pls, Help me learn how to compile programs from source, Every guide i lookup has  faild me and nothing works, If someone could point me to a noob frienly guide that would be great thanks.
[16:13] <Rory> V0dk4L3mm0n: You need to download the i386 version. Might also be called 32-bit or i686
[16:13] <V0dk4L3mm0n> thank you Rory
[16:13] <Rory> spacecamp: It depends on the program! The person who wrote it should have included a guide on how to compile it
[16:14] <Rory> spacecamp: Generally the pattern is: ./configure && make && sudo make install
[16:14] <Rory> spacecamp: But the project should come with a file called README or INSTALL which could contain special instructions like packages you should install first
[16:14] <gordonjcp> spacecamp: what exactly are you trying to do?
[16:15] <MarcelT3> hi all. my wlan connection fails out of a sudden. using lubuntu 64bit and the realtek chip in my antenna was auto-found by the installer. but no it does not work anymore. pls give me hints where to look. router log remains silent.
[16:15] <hello231> sooo have eany one here tryed ROSA Frresh linux yeett
[16:15] <spacecamp> I know, But they never work, And i always install the stuff that i need to compile, but it always jjust doesnt work for me i feel so bad
[16:15] <freannrak> I'm unable to get color calibration to work (12.04) under Settings-->Color-->Select display-->Calibrate. The button is grayed out even though I have gnome-color-manager installed. Any ideas?
[16:15] <spacecamp> I'm trying to compile weechat from source
[16:15] <hello231> i ment Fresh
[16:15] <spacecamp> and it tells me to use cmake and i'm just lost.
[16:15] <Rory> spacecamp: Weechat is in the Ubuntu repositories, you don't need to compile it from source
[16:15] <spacecamp> I know, but its outdated, And i'm trying to learn how to compile lol
[16:16] <Rory> spacecamp: I'd recommend asking in #weechat
[16:16] <fudus> sudo build-dep weechat, cmake?
[16:16] <fudus> sudo apt-get build-dep
[16:17] <fudus> then go to folder and cmake
[16:17] <Pici> !checkinstall
[16:17] <spacecamp> okay, thanks, It's just that all the guides i lookup make it sound so simple and easy and i even read the read me files and everything it;sjust when i go to compile it just never works for me lol
[16:17] <fabiobik> hello guys, ive made some changes into my pen drive to solve read only file system but now im getting an error while mounting.
[16:17] <Rory> spacecamp: If you're getting specific errors, please put them on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:17] <fabiobik> can someone help me?
[16:17] <fudus> build-dep will bring in all the libraries, you can follow the INSTALL instructions the
[16:17] <Rory> !details | fabiobik
[16:18] <gordonjcp> spacecamp: weechat is already packaged for Ubuntu
[16:18] <Rory> !info weechat-curses | spacecamp
[16:18] <fudus> gordonjcp: he wants to learn to compile :P
[16:18] <gordonjcp> fudus: aha
[16:18] <V0dk4L3mm0n> fur ro dah?
[16:18] <V0dk4L3mm0n> fus ro dah?
[16:18] <gordonjcp> fudus: that's not really much of a thing to learn...
[16:19] <baphomet1> hello all!  I was wondering if someone here could help me out with VPNC
[16:19] <fabiobik> I have a tablet with CWM installed and formated my sdcard trught CWM and becomes a read only file system. so with fsck ive tryed to format again with fat32 but now im getting an error while mouting.
[16:19] <Gerickos> Hey !
[16:19] <gordonjcp> !compiling | spacecamp
[16:19] <mjayk> Hay!
[16:19] <fabiobik> Error mounting /dev/sdd1 at /media/fabio/ROCKCHIPS: Command-line `mount -t "vfat" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush" "/dev/sdd1" "/media/fabio/ROCKCHIPS"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdd1,
[16:20] <Gerickos> Bonjour je suis nouveau dans les chat :)
[16:20] <fabiobik> [  886.248702]  sdd: sdd1
[16:20] <fabiobik> [  886.617942] FAT-fs (sdd1): bogus number of reserved sectors
[16:20] <fabiobik> [  886.617949] FAT-fs (sdd1): Can't find a valid FAT filesystem
[16:20] <fabiobik> [  897.129348] FAT-fs (sdd1): bogus number of reserved sectors
[16:20] <fabiobik> [  897.129355] FAT-fs (sdd1): Can't find a valid FAT filesystem
[16:20] <FloodBot1> fabiobik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:20] <fabiobik> sorry
[16:21] <fabiobik> this is my dmesg output
[16:22] <gordonjcp> fabiobik: how sure are you that it's a FAT filesystem?
[16:22] <MarcelT3> nm-tool sais my wlan connection hangs in "connecting (configuring)" triple checked passphrase, router logs r ok. what could i do to find out the issue?
[16:23] <horrow> anybody can help me run tera on 13.04 ?
[16:23] <baphomet1> I am able to connect to the IPSec tunnel I have setup using various other clients (OSX, windows, mobile), however I am not able to connect to it using any linux clients.  VPNC returns "no response from target".  Can anyone help out?
[16:24] <nem> ubuntu has become garbage
[16:24] <nem> nice one guys
[16:25] <nem> telling my pci card it can only run 1/16th of its memory
[16:25] <nem> therefore fcking my resolution
[16:25] <nem> i appreciate it
[16:25] <LinuxGold> nem = inpatience one --
[16:26] <LinuxGold> impatient *
[16:26] <JohnVonNeumann> y the magnet links r not working in transmission?
[16:28] <superherointj> Hello. I`ve just installed Ubuntu 13.4, but I`m having some issues, I have a Dell XPS 15 (l502x) notebook. And I see my video card (Nvidia GT 525m)  is not properly supported by Ubuntu. Reading docs I see next Ubuntu version 13.10 has an improved support to hybrid cards that use "Optimus" , like mine. So, I'd like to install Ubuntu 13.10 but I could only find it as "Daily Build" and I still downloaded it anyway and tried to install it, but then
[16:28] <superherointj> I could not finish installation. It freezed. I tried 3 times. It seems the version I downloaded (and burned on a DVD) is broken. I'd like to know a working Ubuntu 13.10 version so I can use it with my notebook properly. Thanks for any help in advance.
[16:29] <baphomet1> any VPNC people in here?
[16:29] <Myrtti> superherointj: since you want help for the next version of Ubuntu, you might find more help at #ubuntu+1
[16:29] <superherointj> Thanks.
[16:31] <Absolute0> I ran dist-upgrade and both vlc and smplayer lost audio when playing files. How can I fix this?
[16:35] <horrow> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[16:36] <horrow> anybody can help me fix this i cant install anything from source..?
[16:41] <cpined> hello...when I try to update ubuntu I get an alert "Requires installation of untrusted packages" and the update does not happen.  How can I proceed with the update?
[16:41] <dman777_alter> hi, what version of should the vmlinux say for ubuntu 12.01?
[16:42] <fudus> cpined: go to software updater again, it'll refresh the packages
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> dman777_alter  it's 12.04 or 12.10... you want to run it as a virtual machine?
[16:43] <dman777_alter> 12.10
[16:43] <dman777_alter> yes
[16:44] <dman777_alter> MonkeyDust: what should the virtual kernel say for version?
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> dman777_alter  not sure what you mean
[16:45] <6JTAABWO0> whoami
[16:45] <6JTAABWO0> whoami
[16:46] <dman777_alter> MonkeyDust: should 12.10 say vmlinuz-3.6.0-030600-generic?
[16:49] <jubale> 'aptitude --help' returns errors instead of usage info: http://pastebin.com/J8g37D5j
[16:49] <tek-> How can I enable my wifi from setting?
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> dman777_alter  don't know, guess i misunderstood your first question
[16:51] <tek-> On my Wlan I try to click on, but it goes back to off right away.
[16:52] <cpined> fudus:when I do that i still get the same message.
[16:53] <tek-> What is the console command to turn on wifi?
[16:58] <fudus> cpined: probably one of the servers is down, wait a while
[16:58] <fudus> mirrors*
[17:00] <graingert> http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamMachines/
[17:00] <cpined> fudus:I unchecked the google talk option...and the updates is now working
[17:02] <cpined> fudus:Changes for google-talkplugin versions:
[17:02] <cpined> Installed version: 4.5.3.0-1
[17:02] <cpined> Available version: 4.6.3.0-1
[17:02] <cpined> This update does not come from a source that supports changelogs.
[17:02] <FloodBot1> cpined: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:07] <SuperLag> What do you guys use for Twitter on Ubuntu?
[17:08] <tek-> Will someone cloak me please?
[17:08] <compdoc> cloak?
[17:08] <SuperLag> tek-: I'd go to #services for that
[17:08] <tek-> You can ask for an unaffiliated cloak in #freenode.
[17:09] <tek-> SuperLag thank you
[17:09] <SuperLag> my pleasure
[17:11] <tek-> What is the command to enable wifi?
[17:11] <karthik> hi how to install appserv ubuntu
[17:12] <karthik> hi how to install appserv in ubuntu
[17:12] <BluesKaj> tek-:  sudo ifconfig wlan0 up ,then, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid to find the network(s)
[17:14] <stinkyfax> Hi all
[17:14] <BluesKaj> !appserv
[17:15] <BluesKaj> no factoid
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[17:15] <stinkyfax> I have been using Debian as a server OS for 3 years, but now I am feeling like trying Ubuntu. Can you advice me on which version shall I choose? 12 TLS or 13? I fear picking 13 for it being unstable, yet I fear of 12 having too old packages for my applications (websites, etc)?
[17:16] <tek-> How can I check if I am cloaked
[17:17] <DJones> tek-: You are >>> tek-!~tek_@unaffiliated/tek-
[17:17] <tek-> ok
[17:18] <BluesKaj> karthik:   check for appserv in the software sources
[17:18] <karthik>  hi can any one help me how to install appserv in ubuntu?
[17:18] <tek-> Thanks
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[17:19] <stinkyfax> So.. 12 TLS or 13  for Server?
[17:29] <akshay2000> whoami
[17:29] <Mathisen> you are akshay2000
[17:29] <Mathisen> :)
[17:30] <Purso> chan? :D
[17:30] <akshay2000> Mathisen: Thank you. Pidgin was having some trouble earlier!
[17:30] <blazeme8> Hi, Why would ubuntu of named my primary interface "p17p1" instead of the typical eth0? Ive never seen this before
[17:31] <akshay2000> Naming system has been changed recently in ip link, blazeme8.
[17:32] <karthik> hi how to extend the disk space of filesystem in ubuntu
[17:32] <blazeme8> But I've used server 13.04 before and not had this happen?
[17:33] <blazeme8> karthik: try gparted
[17:33] <tek-> BluesKaj : I did : sudo ifconfig wlan0 up , but it doesn't work
[17:33] <jhutchins> blazeme8: This is a change that's happening across distros to make the naming consistent.
[17:33] <blazeme8> interesting, but why did it kick in now?
[17:34] <blazeme8> I installed some VMs of 13.04 server last week and it used eth0
[17:34] <blazeme8> where yesterdays hardware install did this
[17:34] <blazeme8> im not complaining or anything, just curious why
[17:34] <jhutchins> blazeme8: Probably an update to udev or the kernel.
[17:34] <jhutchins> \
[17:35] <blazeme8> odd
[17:35] <blazeme8> thanks though
[17:35] <dmavroid> hello! simple question! How propable is to get a virus on my ubuntu desktop? do i need an antivirus?
[17:35] <blazeme8> very low and no
[17:36] <dmavroid> lovely thanks!
[17:36] <tek-> How can I enable my wlan0 in settings?
[17:37] <jhutchins> tek-: What chipset?
[17:37] <TheLordOfTime> is there a way to force IPv4 in APT / APT-GET?
[17:37] <BluesKaj> tek-:  what does iwconfig show , pastebin the output if any
[17:38] <TheLordOfTime> my system's trying to use the IPv6 in the us.archive list, and I don't want it to use IPv6 (it doesn't work)
[17:38] <dmavroid> Is there any "light" application for system monitoring on the upper task bar? (CPU, MEMORY, TEMP.)
[17:39] <tek-> BlueKaj : http://pastebin.com/MmZe5VKH
[17:41] <jhutchins> TheLordOfTime: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/05/disable-ipv6-if-your-internet-is.html
[17:41] <Mathisen> dmavroid try " conky "
[17:42] <dmavroid> Mathisen: thanks...you saviour
[17:42] <TheLordOfTime> jhutchins: that's not what I was asking
[17:42] <TheLordOfTime> jhutchins: i ONLY want to force IPv4 for apt-get and updating, not disable IPv6 overall
[17:43] <UrielVigilant> good afternoon, iam with ubuntu 12.04, and i have bcm 4311 hardware. I try this steps :     Uninstall the bcmwl-kernel-source package by issuing the following command on a terminal:
[17:43] <UrielVigilant>     sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source
[17:43] <UrielVigilant>     make sure that the firmware-b43-installer and the b43-fwcutter packages are installed (of course you will need internet by others means):
[17:43] <UrielVigilant>     sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer b43-fwcutter
[17:43] <UrielVigilant>     type into terminal:
[17:43] <FloodBot1> UrielVigilant: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:43] <UrielVigilant>     cat /etc/modprobe.d/* | egrep 'bcm'
[17:44] <tek-> BluesKaj: did you get the pastebin?
[17:45] <UrielVigilant> what it is pastbin hot to use it to dont flood ?
[17:45] <UrielVigilant> how ?
[17:45] <TheLordOfTime> !pastebin | UrielVigilant
[17:45] <Mathisen> TheLordOfTime manual ipv4 entry to /etc/hosts ?
[17:45] <TheLordOfTime> Mathisen: for the entire US archive RR?
[17:45] <TheLordOfTime> because the system uses us.archive and if that has multiple IPs...
[17:46] <TheLordOfTime> :/
[17:46] <UrielVigilant> Good aftrnoon : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6155456/
[17:46] <alejandro_> how do I enable USB ports on Vbox ?  i'm running ubuntu 13.04
[17:46] <Mathisen> just a thought..
[17:48] <tek-> can someone help me figure out how to enable my wlan in settings?
[17:49] <UrielVigilant> I forgot to say, about this situation http://paste.ubuntu.com/6155456/ i was with the bcm4311 always on during the process.
[17:49] <alejandro_> HI everybody, I'm new to ubuntu, I have ubuntu 13.04, I'm running on it virtual box of oracle, I need to enable usb ports on virtual machine, can anyone help me?
[17:50] <tek-> I do : sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid on, and it still says it is off
[17:50] <BluesKaj> tek-: yeah , which wifi chip do you have ?
[17:50] <tek-> Marvell I think?
[17:51] <Subroutine> alejandro_:go to vm virtualbox, settings, usb and add usb port you want to share with virtual pc
[17:51] <UrielVigilant> can someone help me step by step on terminal to install my bcm to work with ubuntu 12.02 ? I already did this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6155456/
[17:51] <UrielVigilant> ops 12.04 i mean
[17:51] <tek-> Maybe I'll just reinstall it, it worked fine on the last install
[17:52] <tek-> reinstall ubuntu I mean
[17:52] <BluesKaj> tek-:  lspci , look for a mobile controller
[17:53] <tek-> It's Marvell
[17:53] <Mathisen> UrielVigilant http://codeghar.wordpress.com/2012/07/12/get-broadcom-bcm4311-working-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[17:53] <napnap> c
[17:54] <jubale> 'aptitude --help' returns these errors unless I use sudo http://pastebin.com/J8g37D5j
[17:54] <tek-> oh, it's intel wifi link 5100
[17:56] <alejandro_> I did that and I couldn't do it
[17:57] <BluesKaj> tek-:  found this tutorial , it's bit lengthy , but might worjk for your setup
[17:57] <BluesKaj> tek-: http://askubuntu.com/questions/257600/marvells-wireless-driver-not-recognized
[17:57] <tek-> meh, ima just reinstall ubuntu
[17:57] <alejandro_> it told me  I have to add  vboxuser group
[17:57] <tek-> Blueskaj, it is an intel anyway, I misspoke
[17:58] <usr_> I just downloaded and extracted samba now what do i DO
[17:58] <UrielVigilant> It says that first i have to remove Broadcom 802.11 Sta linux wireless before install frimwar b43 installer. How do i do that on terminal ?
[17:58] <tek-> It works when I use command line
[17:58] <alejandro_> ADD user to vboxusers group
[17:58] <UrielVigilant> Mathisen: It says that first i have to remove Broadcom 802.11 Sta linux wireless before install frimwar b43 installer. How do i do that on terminal ?
[17:59] <compdoc> usr_, the main part to set up samba is changing /etc/samba/smb.conf
[17:59] <tek-> BluesKaj: iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid, shows me all the connections, so it is installed, just Ubunut is bugged
[17:59] <usr_> ok ill need to read the active directory guide then
[17:59] <compdoc> usr_, and then getting permissions right
[17:59] <tek-> I need to know how to sudo the network settings
[17:59] <tek-> To keep it on
[18:00] <BluesKaj> tek-:  sudo dhclient wlan0
[18:01] <UrielVigilant> how to remove  Broadcom 802.11 Sta linux wireless bmwl kernel source, with the terminal ?
[18:02] <bindi> can I have two seperate accounts be logged in at the same time, with different window managers? and prefrrably swappable with ctrl+alt+ function buttons
[18:02] <Subroutine> alejandro_: i have never used virtual box for linux so this is new to me. check if you have group vboxuser on your system already. you can do it bt checking file /etc/groups
[18:03] <UrielVigilant> Hooo, i see now, i can do it on software center.
[18:03] <tek-> BlueKaj the command tell me operation isn't possible because RF-Kill
[18:04] <Subroutine> alejandro_: sorry its just /etc/group
[18:04] <stinkyfax> Shall I use 12 TLS or 13  for a Server?
[18:06] <alejandro_> subroutine: thanks
[18:06] <alejandro_> thank you for your help
[18:06] <alejandro_> I'll do that
[18:08] <luckyuser> franky
[18:09] <Subroutine> alejandro_: if you find out the group is already on your system just add user into it by command "sudo usermod -a -G vboxusers username"
[18:11] <nacitar> On ubuntu 12.10, my system is set to automatically log in upon boot.  If I ever log out, the login screen shows my user, and directly beneath it there is a "retry" button which clicking fails to authenticate... but there is no password field, so I can't even type my password in... essentially, logging out means i'm forced to reboot due to this.
[18:11] <brahmana> Hi all..
[18:11] <elyezer> I have a cron job that pulls a tarball and have some information like network configuration. I can change it at runtime, but I'd like to persist it. I'm looking for a great solution to do that, what is better an upstart script or if-up.d script or something else?
[18:12] <brahmana> I am trying to setup my Ubuntu (12.04) laptop as a wireless access point
[18:12] <brahmana> so that I can connect to it from my android phone
[18:12] <brahmana> I am connected to the internet on my laptop through a 4G USB modem
[18:13] <Mathisen> brahmana http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/
[18:13] <brahmana> I chose "Use as Hotspot" from Settings -> Network Connections and my laptop is connected to its own wireless network.
[18:14] <brahmana> I have the right iptables rule setup to forward traffic to my ppp0. (That is how I am accessing IRC now)
[18:14] <brahmana> But my android device doesn't see my PC in wireless n/w at all
[18:14]  * brahmana reads the link provided my Mathisen 
[18:15] <hadifarnoud> how can I write cdr image to dvd? K3B doesn't like it.
[18:17] <Mathisen> cdrecord -v speed=XX dev=dev -data image.cdr , Replace XX with the desired speed and set the dev value to your DVD device.
[18:17] <brahmana> Mathisen: I have done the exact same steps but my android device doesn't see the network when I scan for wi-fi networks.. ! :(
[18:18] <Fanatic89> i want more scrollspeed!
[18:18] <Purso> i want more brain
[18:18] <brahmana> Mathisen: Any other suggestions that I can try?
[18:19] <Fanatic89> :D
[18:19] <Subroutine> brahmana: its strange u cant see it any, but have you tried to connect to it as a hidden network?
[18:20] <Fanatic89> is there a solution to get more scrollspeed ?
[18:21] <usr_> how do I remove samba 3
[18:21] <tek-> I think someone hacked me because now windows is broken
[18:21] <usr_> I have samba 4 too so
[18:21] <tek-> I had to use hirens to fix linux
[18:22] <brahmana> Subroutine: I just tried adding the network manually. Entered the SSID, chose the encryption scheme and entered the key
[18:23] <brahmana> Subroutine: But my Nexus 4 shows it as Not in Range.. !
[18:23] <brahmana> Subroutine: I believe that is what you meant by connecting to a hidden n/w. Is that right?
[18:26] <Subroutine> brahmana: yes thats what i ment. are you able to use wireshark, aircrack-ng or something similar to see if your broadcasting?
[18:31] <InsaneGene> guys whenever i try to start reaver I get this message Failed to initialize interface 'wlan0', although it worked before but I suspect that I've made configuration on my wireless adapter long time ago (forgot what i did) that caused the problem
[18:31] <brahmana> Subroutine: Sorry... got disconnected...
[18:32] <brahmana> Subroutine: I have tcpdump
[18:32] <brahmana> Subroutine: What should I try to capture?
[18:32] <usr_> HELP
[18:32] <usr_> ME
[18:32] <jonascj> in ubuntu 12.10 where would I go to bind a key combination to a command such as "dbus-send bla bla bla"?
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> usr_  start with a question and don't use caps
[18:32] <usr_> all I want is to remove these two versions of samba why does it have to be so damn hard
[18:33] <usr_> apt-get purge samba4
[18:33] <usr_> unable to open lock file  /var/lib/dbkg/lock - open
[18:33] <jonascj> usr_: you probably have other package utilities running
[18:33] <brahmana> usr_: Very likely another package manager related program is running. Like the GUI one
[18:34] <jonascj> usr_: try a few "ps aux | grep aptitude" and see if you get anything back
[18:34] <brahmana> usr_: Do you have the Software Updater or the Synaptic Package Manager window open?
[18:34] <brahmana> Subroutine: still around?
[18:35] <Subroutine> brahmana: yes. can you see if your sending bradcast packets?
[18:35] <zexcriz> can i receive mails from gmail, yahoo etc when i am using any mail server like postfix or squirrel mail etc ?
[18:36] <brahmana> Subroutine: umm.. would you happen to know the tcpdump command for that off hand? (Am not really a tcpdump expert. I just know how to capture http packets!)
[18:36] <usr_> when I type ps aux i get A huge list
[18:36] <Subroutine> brahmana: sorry never used tcpdump package
[18:36] <brahmana> usr_: ps aux | grep aptitude -- That was the entire command
[18:36] <usr_> nothing for grep apitude
[18:36] <mplex> if I get unresolved symbols with packages installed from the repository on an amd64 system, could it be because I don't have 32bit libraries installed?
[18:36] <zexcriz> squirrel mail is a mail client ..!!
[18:37] <brahmana> Subroutine: ah.. ok.. let me try and install wireshark
[18:37] <Mathisen> zexcriz yes you can
[18:37] <usr_> I get the same back as what I typed
[18:37] <mplex> brahmana: tcpdump broadcast?
[18:37] <brahmana> trying
[18:38] <zexcriz> Mathisen, with postfix and squirrel mail both ?
[18:38] <usr_> i get nothing back sorry
[18:38] <jonascj> usr_: "ps aux | grep aptitude" should return only one line with "grep bla bla aptitude bla bla color=auto" if aptitude is not running. If it is running it should return an additional line
[18:39] <brahmana> alrighty.. got Wireshark now
[18:39] <Mathisen> zexcriz yes
[18:39] <jonascj> usr_: http://superuser.com/questions/97844/how-can-i-determine-what-process-has-a-file-open-in-linux
[18:39] <Vermoot> Hi
[18:39] <taime1> hi. how can i tell which driver my intel NIC is using on my ubuntu server?
[18:39] <zexcriz> Mathisen, awesome :) thanks
[18:39] <OerHeks> usr_, aptitude, not apitude
[18:39] <usr_> I did that too
[18:40] <brahmana> ok.. this is weird.. Wireshark complains there are no interfaces on which capture can be done..!!
[18:40] <usr_> and nothing happnes
[18:40] <zexcriz> Mathisen, is it a good thing to install sendmail at my home where there are 2-3 machines ? or this mail server are more suited for enterprise purpose where there are large user base.
[18:40] <Pici> usr_: did you use sudo to run your command?
[18:40] <Subroutine> brahmana: ok, just run it in monitoring interface and if you wont see your bssid broadcasted you missconfigured wifi setup
[18:40] <usr_> no???
[18:40] <Pici> usr_: you need to run your apt-get command with sudo
[18:40] <Vermoot> I just booted on a liveDVD, but it doesnt seem to launch properly... so I m on a tty in irssi right now. So first things first : how can I change my keyboard layout ?
[18:41] <mosheh> need help cannot run flash player on ubuntu 12.04 on my 32bit toshiba
[18:41] <usr_> OH great
[18:41] <Pici> usr_: did that work?
[18:41] <cordyceps> trying mplayer from cli: mplayer -shuffle -playlist My_Playlist, getting 'glibc detected ***mplayer: corrupted double-linked list' followed by silence ;(
[18:41] <Mathisen> zexcriz i cant answer that
[18:41] <jonascj> usr_: maybe try to google around for stuff like "linux see which programs have file open". Maybe this will workfor you http://superuser.com/questions/97844/how-can-i-determine-what-process-has-a-file-open-in-linux
[18:41] <zexcriz> Mathisen, ok np :)
[18:42] <usr_> yes
[18:42] <ingsoc> how do you redefine the keys that scatter windows in current workspace
[18:42] <xsi> I need internet I have 1 white IP and 1 grey IP 192.168.. 94.76... Inside NAT network: from receiving PC to server inner/outer IP there is a ping but not farther. What to do with iptables?
[18:42] <Guest96361> Hello, I am newbie here. Is there anybody who could help with problems after attempt to install Ubuntu TV on Ubuntu12.04 in VBox? It doesn't started but at startup I am receiving a lot of qmail 'users'. Is there any chance to repair and delete all that I made with that installation?
[18:42] <cordyceps> vlc works but I prefer cli
[18:42] <jonascj> usr_: if aptitude or similar was running then close it / kill it
[18:42] <Pici> jonascj: they weren't using sudo to run apt-get purge
[18:42] <Mathisen> taime1 sudo lspci -v
[18:42] <jonascj> Pici: oh
[18:43] <brahmana> Subroutine: Wireshark says it can't find an interface on which capture can be run..!
[18:43] <Pici> brahmana: wireshark needs to be run with sudo/gksudo
[18:43] <jonascj> Did anyone know about key bindings in ubuntu 12? Where might I bind ctrl+alt+page-up to fire "dbus-send bla bla bla"?
[18:43] <brahmana> aah.. ok
[18:44] <mosheh> Flash player not working on ubuntu 12.04 i have tried the fixes and all still no change
[18:44] <jonascj> hmm, I guess it depends on your desktop evironment. I'm using xmonad so I guess I have to go ask some xmonad people.
[18:44] <Subroutine> brahmana: simple way to fix it to run wiresahrk as root.
[18:46] <Subroutine> brahmana: proper way to fix it is to run command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure wireshark-common" select option for non root users. and then add user to wireshark group wiht command "usermod -a -G wireshark username"
[18:47] <Mathisen> mosheh firefox ? and what have you tried
[18:48] <brahmana> Subroutine: Dead silence.. 0 packets on eth1 (Wireless connection).. :(
[18:48] <jayar> how do i make a shortcut? i wanna run ./kompozer without typing it in terminal
[18:49] <Subroutine> you didt set up wifi right and your clam that your pc is connected via wifi is false too
[18:49] <Subroutine> *claim
[18:50] <mosheh> Mathisen i tried gnash and flashplayer 11.2 and restricted fix etc..... no lack
[18:50] <brahmana> Subroutine: ifconfig shows me this for eth1 : inet addr:10.42.0.1  Bcast:10.42.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[18:50] <mosheh> *LUCK
[18:50] <brahmana> And the network manager says I am connected to the hotspot n/w I created
[18:51] <xsi> How to check what is wrong. iptables is running. PC from inner network is pinging both white/grey IP interfaces - but not farther?
[18:51] <mosheh> Yes its on firefox
[18:51] <Subroutine> brahmana: eth1 is wired connections
[18:51] <Mathisen> mosheh just to confirm.. are you trying to get an external flash player or in browser
[18:52] <mosheh> mathisen in the browser
[18:52] <Mathisen> 64bit version ?
[18:52] <mosheh> 32
[18:52] <quantumpants> Hi guys, Im having trouble getting the Uplink game to install. any advice?
[18:52] <mosheh> 32 bti
[18:52] <brahmana> Subroutine: That's what I thought.. but in my case eth0 is wired and my wireless is named eth1..!
[18:53] <mosheh> 32 bit
[18:53] <mosheh> i tried from software center too
[18:54] <Mathisen> try sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-installer
[18:54] <Mathisen> in console
[18:55] <brahmana> Subroutine: How can I list all the interfaces on my machine cat /etc/network/interfaces doesn't have much
[18:56] <usr_> reference the linux mint package repository info for getting samba4
[18:57] <usr_> how do I reference the linux mint package repository info for getting samba4*
[18:57] <Pici> usr_: We do not support Linux Mint here.
[18:57] <Pici> !mintsupport | usr_
[18:57] <usr_> oh great not only do I have to fuck on for hours just to uninstall one program now I have to go to that stupid channel
[18:58] <jhutchins> usr_: You could always install Ubuntu.
[18:59]  * Mathisen are going for a smoke .. brb
[18:59] <usr_> I hate ubuntu
[18:59] <usr_> why does the title bar keep replacing the toolbar
[18:59] <mosheh> mathisen "unable to locate package installer
[18:59] <dcope> anyone in here ever used 'leaseweb'?
[18:59] <usr_> I hate window auto snap
[18:59] <dcope> for a dedicated machine?
[18:59] <Mathisen> mosheh > sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[18:59] <Mathisen> brb smoke
[18:59] <usr_> what if I wanna position it accuratley
[18:59] <munsking> hello, i just installed an IRC server, how can i start it with service?  so far i can only run the command itself
[18:59] <Pici> usr_: you don't need to use unity.
[19:00] <usr_> I stil wouldnt be used to the gui
[19:00] <usr_> unless its like windows
[19:00] <theadmin> munsking: Create /etc/init/blah.conf (where "blah" is the name of your IRC server) with two lines: "start on runlevel [2345]" and "exec /path/to/your/irc/server/binary"
[19:00] <theadmin> usr_: Kubuntu resembles Windows a lot.
[19:00] <usr_> and bash is still a pain in the arse
[19:01] <munsking> theadmin: thanks!
[19:01] <mosheh>  Package 'adobe-flashplugin' has no installation candidate
[19:01] <ObrienDave> usr_... so does Xubuntu
[19:01] <theadmin> mosheh: Is of "flashplugin-installer"
[19:01] <theadmin> mosheh: adobe-flashplugin is a way old name
[19:01] <usr_> do they have samba4
[19:01] <Subroutine> brahmana: im running out of ideas. try to have a look at them docd and go trough the procedure again. lo list interfaces you can also use ifconfig or "lshw -class network"
[19:01] <mosheh> got it
[19:02] <munsking> theadmin: erm, what runlevel do you think i should use?
[19:02] <theadmin> usr_: Eh... there's a samba4 package in 13.04 at least
[19:02] <Subroutine> *docs
[19:02] <usr_> ok.
[19:02] <brahmana> Subroutine: Ok.. Appreciate your help.. Thank you..
[19:03] <theadmin> munsking: 2345. Exactly that. Ubuntu assumes those runlevels are identical, that's just... honestly, I'm still not used to Upstart, thinking SysVInit style. I think you might as well use "start on startup" instead.
[19:03] <mosheh> flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.
[19:03] <mosheh> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[19:03] <mosheh>   thunderbird-globalmenu python-support language-pack-kde-en
[19:03] <mosheh>   language-pack-kde-en-base kde-l10n-engb
[19:03] <mosheh> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[19:03] <FloodBot1> mosheh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:03] <mosheh> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[19:03] <Subroutine> brahmana: np
[19:03] <munsking> theadmin: ah, thank you, i thought you meant [2345] as a "pick one of these" placeholder
[19:05] <usr_> if I have to mess on with stupid bash to set up samba forget it
[19:05] <theadmin> usr_: You do not. You can right click a folder and share it.
[19:05] <mosheh> flashplugin is already the newest version
[19:06] <theadmin> mosheh: Open any reasonable browser (anything that supports NPAPI, say, Firefox) and go to its' equivalent of about:plugins.
[19:06] <theadmin> mosheh: See if you can find Flash there
[19:07] <themadchemist91> hello!!! :D
[19:10] <usr_> how do I delete samba
[19:10] <usr_> ive tried wht you said and it still wont delete and it sucks
[19:10] <usr_> sudo -apt purge samba
[19:10] <usr_> sudo -apt purge samba4
[19:10] <theadmin> usr_: That's not a correct command...
[19:10] <theadmin> usr_: You want "sudo apt-get purge samba"
[19:11] <usr_> sorry yes
[19:11] <usr_> thats what I typed
[19:11] <theadmin> usr_: Or just use a graphical package management utility, such as Synaptic, Muon or Ubuntu Software Centre.
[19:11] <usr_> stupid fucking keyboard
[19:11] <OerHeks> You might want to stop samba4 first
[19:11] <usr_> ok
[19:11] <Pici> usr_: Last warning, mind your language here.
[19:11] <Subroutine> usr_: no need for intercourse
[19:12] <Mathisen> intercourse is a good thing :)
[19:12] <usr_> go try doing stupid bash while half blind
[19:12] <Mathisen> usr_ /etc/init.d/samba stop
[19:13] <usr_> ok
[19:13] <theadmin> Okay, I am through helping you. If you hate Linux so much, use Mac OS or Windows, seriously. Sorry, but I can't help someone who keeps calling whatever I say "stupid".
[19:13] <usr_> I do use macosx and windows!
[19:14] <usr_> im not buying windows server and mac uses bash
[19:14] <usr_> I just dont see the point in typing all of this for something so basic
[19:14] <anja> hellow! Is it posiible to set graphic for ubuntu 13.04. As i know in previous releases you could enable or disable desktop effects?
[19:14] <theadmin> usr_: You don't *have* to. Ubuntu offers an insanely huge variety of GUI tools to do those things.
[19:14] <h00k> usr_: Alternatively, open up the Software Center, search Samba there, and remove it with point/click.
[19:15] <Discordian93> can someone help? I followed the instructions on the manual for playing dvd's but I still can't play my The Avengers dvd
[19:15] <anja> hellow! Is it posiible to set graphic for ubuntu 13.04. As i know in previous releases you could enable or disable desktop effects?
[19:15] <usr_> ok well ill install ubuntu again
[19:16] <theadmin> anja: Unity 2D was dumped, unfortunately, I suggest sticking to 12.04 until 2D support is properly supported by Unity.
[19:16] <theadmin> anja: Or, you could use a desktop like Xfce, which is not graphics-heavy.
[19:16] <usr_> sernet-samba-ad
[19:16] <usr_> is this bash or a name in package manager
[19:16] <Discordian93> no one can help? I tried using mplayer, VLC, ripping the dvd with acidrip, nothing works
[19:17] <theadmin> Discordian93: Hm, that's fairly odd, I find that VLC plays about everything
[19:17] <Hexeon> how come you can't play DVD
[19:17] <OerHeks> Discordian93, not all dvdś  will decrypt
[19:17] <theadmin> Discordian93: If it's protected or region-locked you may have issues...
[19:17] <Discordian93> that's the thing, I played it succesfully in 12.04
[19:17] <theadmin> Discordian93: Oh, then this is even weirder
[19:18] <Discordian93> every program crashes when they try to play it
[19:18] <Hexeon> why not use 12.04
[19:18] <usr_> samba does require basic knowledge of bash
[19:18] <usr_> I was told
[19:18] <Discordian93> I found a mailing list from 2006 with someone egtting the same rror from vlc and it was apprently due to a bug in dvdread
[19:19] <theadmin> usr_: Meh, honestly... I have a couple samba shares up on my Ubuntu box, I did *not* type any single command to get these up.
[19:19] <Hexeon> Is VLC open source? Just fix it.
[19:19] <usr_> what about for active directory
[19:19] <OerHeks> Discordian93, what error exactly?
[19:19] <theadmin> usr_: Honestly... I have no idea what that is.
[19:19] <theadmin> usr_: So eh... can't quite say
[19:20] <usr_> it just hosts domains for user accounts
[19:20] <cyberkilla> Hello, I've mentioned this issue before in the past, but... When you open GNOME System Log and move the window around, does your HDD light go crazy?
[19:20] <Discordian93> one on mplayer, but basically they alol boild down to an error message I get immediately after any of the program crashes, i think
[19:20] <cyberkilla> Looking at iotop, when I move the GNOME System Log window around the screen, dconf-service starts writing /megabytes/ of data to the disk.
[19:21] <theadmin> Discordian93: Speaking of LTS versus regular releases. I suggest staying on LTS at all times if you want a stable system that won't have strange bugs or unpredictable behaviour. I consider "regular" releases the equivalent of Debian's "testing".
[19:21] <Discordian93> Warning MVs not available
[19:21] <cyberkilla> It isn't just GNOME System Log, but that's the main offender for me. Does anyone else have this problem?
[19:22] <Discordian93> well, i'm not going to downgrade my system at this point, if everything else fails I can always pirate the movie and it would be legal in my country as a backup copy
[19:22] <NotreDev> if i want to figure out why a process is dying, but it doesn't give good logs, what should i do?
[19:22] <theadmin> Discordian93: Makes sense :)
[19:22] <Discordian93> or just boot into windows :P
[19:23] <theadmin> NotreDev: Does it provide any output to STDOUT/STDERR?
[19:23] <NotreDev> theadmin: nah, launches a daemon and after a few minutes crashes
[19:23] <theadmin> NotreDev: Oh. :/
[19:23] <NotreDev> this is "evaluation" software haha
[19:23] <Discordian93> but i hate booting into windows. after like 10 years of linux, every time i use windows it's painful
[19:23] <Discordian93> so slow
[19:23] <Discordian93> so uncostumizable
[19:23] <theadmin> Discordian93: I hear ye, if not silly school software I'd throw my Windows VM away.
[19:23] <NotreDev> there is something i'm thinking of… not dmesg… but it shows all interactions with a process
[19:24] <NotreDev> process/kernel interactions i think
[19:24] <theadmin> NotreDev: strace?
[19:24] <NotreDev> theadmin: exactly. always forget it
[19:24] <Hexeon> Windows is very customizable. Especially now with Windows 8
[19:24] <usr_> where do I find the gui tools for samba
[19:24] <Hammerhead-SC> HI all,  anyone using linux-ha.org
[19:24] <zorin> hey
[19:24] <downbeam> can you play steam on ubuntu???????????
[19:25] <zorin> yes noob
[19:25] <Discordian93> the only advantage it has is it can play dvd flawlessly. even games aren't porblem anymore with the whole steam for linux and steamos thing
[19:25] <DJones> !steam | downbeam
[19:25] <zorin> best linux software anyone
[19:25] <theadmin> usr_: Nautilus has Samba support built-in, you can right-click a folder and go to the "Sharing" tab and set it up there.
[19:25] <theadmin> downbeam: Yes, Steam has a native Linux version. If your Steam games aren't ported to Linux yet, you can also use the WIndows version of Steam via WINE.
[19:25] <Hexeon> I can play any DVD I want on my fedora box. I don't usually play DVD on my ubuntu box though
[19:25] <Discordian93> I only play dota 2, so i'm fine
[19:26] <usr_> does it work in mint
[19:26] <downbeam> thanks theadmin
[19:26] <Rory> !noob > zorin
[19:26] <Rory> !best | zorin
[19:26] <Version1> Discordian93:  try playing .iso of the dvd with vlc.
[19:26] <theadmin> usr_: I haven't used Mint since forever, sorry, can not say. This channel  doesn't support Mint
[19:27] <usr_> how do I remove the old versions of samba
[19:27] <theadmin> usr_: Ubuntu doesn't keep old versions of software, ever.
[19:27] <Hexeon> Ubuntu has more users than any other distro, right?
[19:27] <theadmin> usr_: You have nothing to worry about :D
[19:27] <usr_> ok
[19:27] <theadmin> Hexeon: More or less, yeah, at least in the desktop field
[19:27] <jhutchins> Hexeon: That's a difficult statistic to measure.
[19:27] <Rory> Hexeon: It's difficult to tell because nobody is counting officially
[19:27] <usr_> ill have to wait till tommorrow to install ubuntu
[19:28] <Discordian93> can't even rip the iso
[19:28] <Discordian93> anyway gonna play dota 2
[19:28] <Hexeon> I will just count the people in each IRC channel on Freenode.
[19:28] <zorin> hey
[19:28] <jhutchins> Discordian93: dd if=/dev/dvd of=avengers.iso
[19:28] <theadmin> Hexeon: Then you'll find #ubuntu has the most users, but most of them idle :D
[19:28] <Hexeon> Most people on IRC are idle. Debian is close
[19:28] <theadmin> jhutchins: Does a video DVD contain a valid ISO filesystem?
[19:28] <theadmin> jhutchins: Not sure if dd will work...
[19:29] <jhutchins> I've done that.
[19:29] <zorin> join zorin channel my one no bans for noob and swears lol
[19:29] <theadmin> jhutchins: Oh, okaysies
[19:29] <theadmin> zorin: Advertisement is definetly unwelcome here.
[19:29] <theadmin> !coc | zorin
[19:29] <cyberkilla> ubottu, do you have that money you owe me?
[19:30] <zorin> join zorin
[19:30] <zorin> iam admin
[19:30] <DJones> zorin: Stop advertising
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> zorin  if you had admin skills, you would know you have to add a slash
[19:31] <h00k> Please don't feed.
[19:31] <usr_> is ntutilis a file tool
[19:31] <Mathisen> filemanager
[19:31] <zorin> oe hry its lou here but making a zorin watts one for my youtube channel on ubuntu but zorin
[19:32] <h00k> ;9
[19:32] <cyberkilla> He's speaking in tongues :o
[19:32] <theadmin> usr_: Nautilus is the default Ubuntu file manager
[19:32] <theadmin> cyberkilla: Is of called "Engrish" :D
[19:32] <zorin> yes done /hey
[19:32] <cyberkilla> theadmin, :P
[19:33] <zorin> yes
[19:33] <zorin> i help with zorin os
[19:33] <usr_> are you sure it can do active directory too
[19:33] <usr_> I dont want to waste any more time
[19:34] <h00k> usr_: "what" can do Active Directory? Nautilus? It's the file manager, like 'explorer.exe' in Windows.
[19:34] <theadmin> usr_: I am not. Again, I never worked with this Microsoft stuff too closely. I think I've seen documentation on setting up AD on Linux but it was so confusing I stopped reading it.
[19:34] <Mathisen> usr_ https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_%26_Active_Directory
[19:34] <usr_> yes that
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> usr_  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto
[19:34] <BubbaH57> I'm looking for a definitive definition of the TIME+ column format in HTOP. My GoogleFu is failing me. Can anyone point me to it?
[19:35] <reisio> definitive, that would be the source code
[19:36] <usr_> how long does ubuntu take to install
[19:36] <usr_> install*
[19:36] <zorin> hey
[19:36] <zorin> install zorin os www.zorinos.com
[19:36] <daftykins> usr_: mere minutes depending on hardware
[19:36] <daftykins> zorin: no thanks
[19:36] <BlueProtoman> I'm going to nuke my laptop and reinstall Ubuntu on it.  How can I get a list of packages I have so I don't have to sniff them out later?
[19:37] <Mathisen> usr_  30-60 minutes on average
[19:37] <theadmin> !clone | BlueProtoman
[19:37] <Mathisen> depends on computer and installtion source
[19:37] <BlueProtoman> !automate
[19:37] <Mathisen> *installation
[19:37] <theadmin> BlueProtoman: Please PM the bot if you wish to investigate factoids for yourself, by the way, rather than give them to someone in the channel
[19:37] <NotreDev> Ok, my process is dying, and strace declares the following: "+++ killed by SIGKILL +++". how do i get more information?
[19:37] <masterxen> is this really weha tyou have to do now to dual boot a system with win8? http://apcmag.com/how-to-dual-boot-windows-8-and-linux.htm
[19:38] <usr_> will it have nautillis
[19:38] <masterxen> well if it's preinstalled
[19:38] <Mathisen> yes
[19:38] <usr_> will it not have samba4 I dont want that installed im using it in nautilis
[19:38] <masterxen> i guess if it's an upgrade it does'nt have the issue?
[19:38] <usr_> does naulis work with all UIs for ubuntu
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> BlueProtoman  dpkg -l|grep ii|awk '{print $2}' > ~/Documents/packages
[19:39] <BlueProtoman> theadmin: Thank you so much.
[19:39] <usr_> ill have to find a ui I like
[19:39] <Mathisen> usr_ advice google around and find a solusion to what you need to do before you do anything ... that way you know what order to do what
[19:39] <BlueProtoman> Is the Ubuntu 13.10 beta worth using yet?
[19:39] <Calinou> probably not
[19:40] <daftykins> #ubuntu+1 for future release discussion
[19:40] <Calinou> usr_: generally it is best to use the native file explorer
[19:40] <BlueProtoman> #ubuntu+1
[19:40] <theadmin> BlueProtoman: General answer: Do not use unreleased Ubuntu versions on important devices. Only on "toys". Or virtual machines.
[19:40] <BlueProtoman> Oops
[19:40] <usr_> I hate unity
[19:40] <Calinou> nautilus for gnome and unity, thunar on xfce
[19:40] <BlueProtoman> theadmin: Got it.
[19:40] <Calinou> and so on
[19:42] <usr_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto this is command line
[19:43] <diverdude> is this http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201112-10223/ a special built distro for t430?
[19:43] <usr_> isnt that nautilis ?
[19:43] <Calinou> nautilus
[19:43] <bekks> diverdude: No. The hardware just runs fine with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[19:43] <theadmin> diverdude: No. This is just a certificate which states that Ubuntu 12.04 LTS has been tested on this device and works perfectly.
[19:43] <syntroPi> Is there any working SyncEvolution package around (for raring x64)??  The one in the repo is too old for current dbus???
[19:44] <Mathisen> usr_ " The SADMS package allows for automated joining to Active Directory through a GUI interface "
[19:44] <xentity1x> Hi im trying to install libva-dev with apt-get but it's saying i have these unmet dependencies http://pastebin.com/sNQuLUih
[19:44] <xentity1x> Can anyone help me figure out how to fix that?
[19:44] <Calinou> full log would help Xentinel
[19:44] <Calinou> xentity1x:
[19:45] <bekks> xentity1x: Do you use conflicting PPA? Looks like you do.
[19:45] <Calinou> that too
[19:45] <xentity1x> calinou, full log http://pastebin.com/S4UTpwdT
[19:46] <cyberkilla> I'll repeat this just one more time, then I'll give up for tonight :)...
[19:46] <cyberkilla> Hello, I'm having a strange issue, and wondering if anyone else can reproduce it... When you open GNOME System Log and move the window around, does your HDD light go crazy? Looking at iotop, when I move the System Log window around the screen, dconf-service starts writing /megabytes/ of data to the disk. It isn't just System Log, but that's the main offender for me. Does anyone else have this problem?
[19:46] <xentity1x> bekks, how can i tell which ppa conflict
[19:46] <Calinou> paste your sources.list mabe
[19:46] <Calinou> maybe
[19:46] <BlueProtoman> Is there anything I should be aware of when reinstalling Ubuntu from scratch, aside from backing up my entire home directory?
[19:46] <syntroPi> The current version of syncevolution http server in the stable raring repo seems to be broken: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mobile.syncevolution/4217
[19:46] <bekks> xentity1x: apt-cache policy libva1
[19:47] <BluesKaj> look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d for ppas , xentity1x
[19:47] <cyberkilla> All you have to do is move the system monitor window around a bit and see whether your HDD light starts flashing like crazy. I'm almost hoping it's just my machine, as that would suggest a config issue.
[19:47] <Calinou> not everyone uses .d, BlueProtoman
[19:47] <Calinou> BluesKaj
[19:47] <theadmin> BlueProtoman: Suggestion: Put /home on a separate partition.
[19:48] <BlueProtoman> theadmin: Is it possible to do that via the Ubuntu installer?
[19:48] <BluesKaj> Calinou:  that's the defaul file for ppas
[19:48] <Calinou> you should have done that earlier
[19:48] <usr_> does sadms work in ubuntu!?
[19:48] <Pici> Calinou: apt-add-repository puts things into sources.list.d by default.
[19:48] <bekks> cyberkilla: Cant reproduce it here.
[19:48] <theadmin> BlueProtoman: That way you can a) use it across a multitude of distributions, b) get to keep it across reinstalls.
[19:48] <Calinou> Pici: yeah but a lot of users edit sources.list by hand (like me)
[19:48] <Calinou> BlueProtoman: yes, but you should have done it already
[19:48] <Calinou> if not done, you'll lose your data...
[19:48] <theadmin> BlueProtoman: I'm not sure whether the automated partitioner allows to do that, but if you use manual partitioning, sure
[19:48] <BlueProtoman> theadmin: I could encrypt it, too.
[19:48] <masterxen> hmm
[19:48] <Calinou> automated doesn't allow that
[19:48] <Calinou> tip of the day: don't use automated
[19:48] <Calinou> tip of the day 2: don't use encrypted
[19:48] <BlueProtoman> Calinou: I'm about to back up the contents of my home to disk drive.
[19:48] <diverdude> hello...i have installed ubuntu on lenovo t430 which should work...however when i boot it just hangs...what could be wrong?
[19:49] <Calinou> that works too :P
[19:49] <xentity1x> bekks, ok so here's the output of that http://pastebin.com/0kZyXcrm
[19:49] <usr_> Mathisen
[19:49] <BlueProtoman> Calinou: So what should I do with regards to making a home partition?  How much space do you usually give to it, as a percentage of the rest of your Ubuntu partition?
[19:49] <cyberkilla> bekks, thanks, that's good to know. It seems as if dconf just writes changes immediately to my disk, the moment it gets them. Every pixel moved is about 80K of writing to the disk, judging by iotop.
[19:50] <Calinou> BlueProtoman: I have 30GB /, 1GB swap, the rest is /home
[19:50] <bekks> xentity1x: Looks like you either installed your libva1 manually or from some PPA which is disabled meanwhile.
[19:50] <Calinou> all ext4
[19:50] <Calinou> works well
[19:51] <BlueProtoman> Calinou: And what's "the rest"?
[19:51] <xentity1x> bekks, hmm how can i undo that
[19:51] <vroom_> Need some help. I've copied some files from windows vista onto a FAT32 USB pen but I cannot see the files when I mount the pen in Ubuntu, only used/avalible space. Works fine in Vista
[19:51] <Calinou> I have a 256GB 840 pro
[19:51] <vlad__> dionyziz
[19:51] <Calinou> so it's about 225GB
[19:51] <usr_> Mathisen
[19:51] <diverdude> hello...i have installed ubuntu on lenovo t430 which should work...however when i boot it just hangs...what could be wrong?
[19:51] <bekks> xentity1x: Uninstall libva1, reinstall it.
[19:51] <Mathisen> ?
[19:51] <BlueProtoman> I can float that.
[19:51] <usr_> does it work in ubuntu
[19:51] <OerHeks> xentity1x, what ubuntu version are you using? 12.10 ?
[19:51] <usr_> does it work with other UIs other than unity
[19:52] <BlueProtoman> Calinou: So the Ubuntu installer *doesn't* have the option of making a /home partition for me?
[19:52] <Calinou> you have to use manual partitioning
[19:52] <xentity1x> orerheks, 13.04
[19:52] <Calinou> the automatic partitioning options will never do that :P
[19:52] <Mathisen> usr_ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbind-SADMS
[19:52] <Calinou> it's not like they are good practice anyway
[19:52] <BlueProtoman> Calinou: It's not difficult to do, at least, is it?
[19:53] <diverdude> hello...i have installed ubuntu on lenovo t430 which should work...however when i boot it just hangs...what could be wrong?
[19:53] <usr_> MORE BASH
[19:53] <Calinou> no, it isn't
[19:53] <theadmin> BlueProtoman: The installer has two ways to do partitioning: automated (single button click, recommended for newbies and people who mess stuff up) and manual (not too hard: for every partition, decide on the filesystem, mountpoint, and whether to format it or not)
[19:53] <xentity1x> bekks, ok thanks that seem to wrok
[19:53] <Calinou> 1) back up your /home (include the hidden files, Ctrl+H) to external HDD
[19:53] <BlueProtoman> Calinou: In progress.  (And I always show my hidden files anyway.)
[19:53] <Calinou> 2) create new partition table on disk, with 1 / partition (root), 1 swap partition of 1GB, the rest as home
[19:54] <Calinou> ideally, you should start gparted by hand, and create a GPT partition table.
[19:54] <Calinou> GPT is more modern, but the installer will never prompt for it
[19:54] <Calinou> it'll always use MBR :/
[19:54] <BlueProtoman> What's the difference?
[19:54] <usr_> Mathisen why is there loads of bash commands on the web page
[19:55] <usr_> cant this work without them to setup Ad
[19:55] <theadmin> BlueProtoman: MBR is an outdated partitioning mechanism, it only lets you have 4 real partitions
[19:55] <theadmin> BlueProtoman: GPT doesn't have that limits and can into large drives
[19:55] <diverdude> hello...i have installed ubuntu on lenovo t430 which should work...however when i boot it just hangs...what could be wrong?
[19:56] <BlueProtoman> theadmin: I see.  OK, so I make a separate partition for /home on my hard drive.  How would I set this partition to be /home?  Or would the installer do that?
[19:56] <Calinou> BlueProtoman: GPT allows for 128 extremely large partitions
[19:56] <BluesKaj> and a 1G swap is pretty small , should be at least as large as one's RAM on a laptop
[19:56] <Calinou> MBR only allows 4 partitions, up to 2TB each
[19:56] <bekks> theadmin: Thats not true. MBR lets you have up to four primary partitions, and up to 15 partitions in every extended partition. There are no "real partitions". And nowadays, people need just two partitions at most, since they are using LVM - even witgh GPT.
[19:56] <theadmin> BlueProtoman: Basically, in manual partitioning, set the settings as follows: filesystem=ext4 (or ext2 if it's a USB stick), format=yes, mountpoint=/home
[19:56] <usr_> Mathisen can I setup active directory with this without using bash
[19:56] <Calinou> BluesKaj: no, only if you use hibernation.
[19:56] <Calinou> nearly noone uses hibernation
[19:57] <BlueProtoman> Calinou: What's "extremely large"?  My hard drive is 500GB.
[19:57] <BluesKaj> Calinou:  lot's of ppl do
[19:57] <Calinou> so don't waste your precious HDD/SSD space and just use 1GB :P
[19:57] <Calinou> BlueProtoman: 16EB I think
[19:57] <Mathisen> usr_ dont know try google.se
[19:57] <Calinou> hibernation is longer than a reboot
[19:57] <Mathisen> .com
[19:57] <Calinou> don't mix suspend and hibernation
[19:57] <usr_> ???
[19:57] <quantumpants> hi guys, can anybody tell me how to get a free copy of "uplink hacker elite" ??
[19:57] <Mathisen> so used to type .se :)
[19:57] <usr_> what has google.se got to do with it
[19:57] <Calinou> bekks: same, nearly noone uses LVM
[19:57] <Calinou> it's way slower and eats CPU
[19:57] <Mathisen> nothing
[19:57] <usr_> im talking about SADMS
[19:57] <Mathisen> but google has try to find a solusion
[19:58] <BlueProtoman> Calinou: Jesus.  If I ever use that much space, it'll be at Google or the NSA.
[19:58] <BluesKaj> Calinou:  maybe you should ask before making suggestions that work for your machine
[19:58] <Mathisen> i dont know any way at least
[19:58] <usr_> look I said 100000 times already I dont wanna use bash
[19:58] <Calinou> GPT is still more modern, just saying :P
[19:58] <BlueProtoman> Is it faster?
[19:58] <Calinou> no, it's the same
[19:58] <jhutchins> usr_: Bash isn't even the default shell in Ubuntu.  You're not using ubuntu and you're wasting bandwidth.
[19:59] <usr_> well command line
[19:59] <BlueProtoman> Then sorry, but I'll just stick with whatever the installer provides.  I need to get this laptop back up and running ASAP; I have a lot of homework due soon.
[19:59] <usr_> that page on SASMS lists command line stuff
[19:59] <theadmin> jhutchins: Wut. Bash *is* the default shell in Ubuntu.
[19:59] <Calinou> jhutchins: it isn't?
[19:59] <jhutchins> I believe it's been dash for quite a while.
[19:59] <Calinou> BlueProtoman: ok
[19:59] <Pici> quantumpants: Buy it from introversion. This is not a warez channel, nor will you find anything like that on freenode.
[19:59] <auronandace> !dash | theadmin
[19:59] <bekks> theadmin: It isnt. :)
[20:00] <BlueProtoman> Calinou: But, thank you for your help!  I really appreciate it.  Anything else I should be on the lookout for when nuking my Ubuntu installation?
[20:00] <Calinou> make sure you backed up your data :P
[20:00] <Calinou> also if you are going to install xubuntu 13.04
[20:00] <Calinou> do not use "auto login"
[20:00] <Calinou> it'll make it impossible to log in
[20:00] <quantumpants> Pici, thanks
[20:00] <jhutchins> Oh, that's right, it's the default system shell, but the interavtive is still bash.
[20:01] <theadmin> bekks: How is it not? It's the default for newly created users...
[20:01] <BlueProtoman> Calinou: I'm not gonna use Xubuntu, just plain Ubuntu.  And yes, of course I'm backing up my data.  :)
[20:01] <theadmin> bekks: Sure, /bin/sh is dash but
[20:01] <Calinou> ok
[20:01] <bekks> theadmin: The default shell is /bin/sh which is dash in fact - and dash isnt bash.
[20:02] <BluesKaj> BlueProtoman:  make you swap as large as your RAM , if you're on a laptop
[20:02] <BlueProtoman> BluesKaj: Yep, I do that anyway.
[20:02] <BluesKaj> ok good
[20:02] <BlueProtoman> Is there a way I can speed up the file copying process?  Give higher priority to it?
[20:03] <Calinou> no
[20:03] <Calinou> get a better HDD :P
[20:03] <Calinou> that's all
[20:03] <Calinou> alternatively, don't copy large but unimportant files
[20:03] <Mathisen> hmm "make swap as large as your ram" is this a thing you always should do ? i missed this
[20:03] <Calinou> "should", no
[20:03] <Calinou> if you want to use hibernation you should
[20:03] <Calinou> if you don't want to, just use 1GB
[20:03] <BluesKaj> or use esata to sata connections instead of usb
[20:03] <theadmin> BlueProtoman: You can renice it to -20 or something I guess, but that's not really going to speed up the copying. It will give the process a higher priority.
[20:04] <kriskropd> does anyone know an iso-information command? I'm looking for something like 'als' for .iso image files
[20:04] <bekks> kriskropd: Mount the ISO, browse it like usual.
[20:04] <kriskropd> BlueProtoman: renice won't speed up your process, only give it priority
[20:04] <kriskropd> bekks: without mounting... like 'als'
[20:05] <theadmin> kriskropd: Not sure what you mean. "file" will provide you with basic information like the label, I suppose.
[20:05] <kriskropd> theadmin: that might've helped, thanks
[20:06] <kriskropd> bekks: I'm trying to find information on this image file because I cannot mount it for lack of specified filesystem - a problem I never have had with .iso fiels before
[20:06] <theadmin> kriskropd: Are you using -o loop?
[20:06] <theadmin> kriskropd: Because if you aren't, you should.
[20:07] <Timtimo> hi
[20:07] <theadmin> kriskropd: The filesystem is normally iso9660 as passed to mount, but... Shouldn't have to specify it
[20:08] <kallisti5> i'll just leave this here:  https://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=Ubuntu#q=Ubuntu&cmpt=q  I like the nice drop off when Unity showed up ^_^
[20:08] <usr_> the admin I need server support not client support in a GUI program for ubuntu
[20:08] <kallisti5> asshats
[20:08] <usr_> theadmin*
[20:08] <Timtimo> anyone of you know the name of the integration in Ubuntu 13 that integrate youtube to the sound menue
[20:08] <theadmin> usr_: servers and GUI don't match up.
[20:08] <bekks> kriskropd: maybe you used udf when creating the iso.
[20:08] <Timtimo> I'd like to add it to the gnome desktop (Ubuntu 12.02)
[20:08] <theadmin> usr_: Generally... Nobody makes GUI servers. Sorry to dissapoint, that might be hard to find
[20:08] <Calinou> there is no 12.02
[20:08] <Calinou> only 12.04 and 12.10
[20:09] <Timtimo> 12.04 sorry :D
[20:09] <usr_> I thought there was loads of non command line programs that do what I need
[20:09] <Calinou> theadmin: nobody is quite wrong, I know some people who use GUI on a server
[20:09] <Timtimo> Do you know the name of it?
[20:09] <Calinou> usr_: not really for server stuff
[20:09] <theadmin> usr_: Yeah... If you're just a user. If you're an admin, you have to know how to admin.
[20:09] <Calinou> Timtimo: no, I don't watch youtube
[20:10] <quantumpants> guys im having trouble installing Wine1.5 through my Terminal.  its telling me that package E has no Installation candidate??
[20:10] <Purso> wine is for drinking
[20:10] <Timtimo> anyone else? In Ubuntu 13.04 is an option to pause videos on youtube in the sound menue
[20:10] <Timtimo> is there a chance to integrate it to Ubuntu 12.04?
[20:11] <theadmin> Timtimo: Probably not, major features like that are usually not backported
[20:11] <Timtimo> sad :( Would like to integrate it 'cause I'm not able to use Unity
[20:11] <Timtimo> Or I don't wan't to :b
[20:11] <theadmin> Timtimo: Eh. It'll be there in 14.04
[20:12] <Calinou> you can use 13.04 without unity
[20:12] <theadmin> Timtimo: (which is the next planned LTS)
[20:12] <Calinou> KDE, LXDE, Xfce are available
[20:12] <Calinou> unofficially, Cinnamon too
[20:12] <Timtimo> I installed 12.04 some hours ago
[20:12] <theadmin> Calinou: Unofficially? It's in the repositories since 13.04.
[20:12] <Calinou> oh
[20:12] <LinuxGold> CLI is available too
[20:12] <Calinou> didn't know
[20:12] <theadmin> Calinou: That's official enough :D
[20:13] <Timtimo> does the feature have a name?
[20:13] <baphomet1> hello all! my software center crashes.  It opens then immediately crashes.  could someone please provide me with some assistance?
[20:13] <Calinou> I don't think so
[20:13] <InsaneGene> how to know the best driver for my wireless adapter ?
[20:13] <Timtimo> Maybe I can find something to it :o
[20:13] <Mathisen> quantumpants 1. sudo apt-get purge wine 2. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa 3. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine 4. "if you want to check that everything is ok" sudo apt-get -s install wine
[20:13] <Calinou> InsaneGene: it is probably used already
[20:13] <Calinou> except if broadcom
[20:14] <Calinou> what does -s do?
[20:14] <Mathisen> simulate
[20:14] <Calinou> ah
[20:14] <Calinou> thought so
[20:14] <quantumpants> Mathisen, great ill give it a go.
[20:15] <InsaneGene> Calinou, I've got both windows and ubuntu installed on my machine and my internet connection is faster on windows, so what is the problem ?
[20:15] <baphomet1> anyone?
[20:15] <Timtimo> @baphomet1: whats the prob?
[20:15] <vojta> ahoj
[20:15] <theadmin> InsaneGene: Try to disable IPv6.
[20:15] <baphomet1> Timtimo, software center opens and immediately crashes
[20:15] <Calinou> InsaneGene: faster by what means?
[20:15] <Calinou> latency? download? upload?
[20:15] <InsaneGene> browsing ?
[20:15] <Calinou> how did you test it?
[20:16] <vojta> Hello, what is your names?
[20:16] <Calinou> browsing isn't only affected by connection speed
[20:16] <theadmin> InsaneGene: I had issues with it being enabled in Linux, causing strange speed drops
[20:16] <Calinou> vojta: none
[20:16] <diverdude> hi..i have installed ubuntu on lenovo t430 which should work...however when i boot it just hangs...what could be wrong?
[20:16] <theadmin> NSA agent detected :D
[20:17] <InsaneGene> theadmin, not solved yet ?
[20:17] <jhutchins> diverdude: Where does it hang?
[20:17] <Mathisen> diverdude it can be alot of things ... more information needed :(
[20:17] <theadmin> InsaneGene: Err, it's not happening to me anymore, but it used to happen so it may be the issue you're having, right?
[20:17] <vojta> Can I help you?
[20:17] <theadmin> InsaneGene: This only applies if your ISP/router/etc does not give you an actual IP of version 6.
[20:18] <theadmin> InsaneGene: If they do, disregard this
[20:18] <vojta> O.o
[20:19] <vojta> I not answer to your question :D I am don'n speak  english = I m speak Czech
[20:19] <InsaneGene> theadmin, how to disable ipv6, in my country ipv6 is not even supported
[20:19] <baphomet1> I am hoping someone can help me with software center crashing
[20:19] <jhutchins> theadmin: I think they fixed that problem where DNS would hang waiting for a 6 reply, but it can still cause trouble.
[20:19] <jhutchins> baphomet1: just crashes, no error message?
[20:20] <theadmin> InsaneGene: Ah, okay. Well, generally, go to NetworkManager, edit your connection settings, on the IPv6 tab choose Method=Ignore
[20:20] <havv> Hello
[20:20] <fellayaboy> how can i add or change unetbootin's option to log me into terminal
[20:20] <vojta> Can I get some video edit software in Ubuntu? What?
[20:20] <baphomet1> jhutchins, yeah.  I open the program and it immediately closes
[20:20] <theadmin> vojta: Hm, well, I'd recommend OpenShot or Kdenlive.
[20:20] <InsaneGene> theadmin, should I reconnect to test the results ?
[20:21] <theadmin> vojta: PiTiVi is also okayish
[20:21] <theadmin> InsaneGene: I think so yeah
[20:21] <Mathisen> vojta http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/top5-linux-video-editing-system-software/
[20:21] <havv> I accidentally burned the .iso as-is (data disk) to the DVD, is there a way to save it and make it bootable?
[20:21] <InsaneGene> theadmin, will be back to tell if it works ;)
[20:22] <quantumpants> Mathisen, its doing something, hope it works! lol
[20:22] <Mathisen> heh :)
[20:22] <vlt> havv: The DVD is finished? Then no
[20:22] <theadmin> havv: Whoops... Probably not, sorry. If the DVD is rewritable you can just burn it properly
[20:22] <Mathisen> after everything is done wine --version
[20:22] <fellayaboy> how can i add or change unetbootin's option to log me into terminal
[20:22] <havv> :(
[20:23] <theadmin> fellayaboy: Unetbootin? Are you using that to create a bootable Ubuntu USB?
[20:23] <havv> gonna have to wait until my usb is back
[20:24] <InsaneGene> theadmin, kind of better !!
[20:24] <fellayaboy> yes theadmin
[20:24] <theadmin> fellayaboy: Bad idea, it usually fails for me -- please follow the official guides for creating a USB on ubuntu.com. Do you need help with that?
[20:25] <AlphaPinky> Unfortunately my notebook with Nvidia optimus video card created so much trouble that I had to remove Ubuntu and get back to Windows 8. I hope to come back when Ubuntu is ready for my notebook. :)
[20:25] <baphomet1> jhutchins, no comment?
[20:25] <theadmin> AlphaPinky: Optimus is supported through Bumblebee
[20:25] <theadmin> AlphaPinky: I have an Optimus, works fine
[20:25] <fellayaboy> no i already have lubuntu on a usb stick ..with live persistence....
[20:26] <fellayaboy> but i want to be able to boot into terminal first
[20:26] <theadmin> fellayaboy: Oh! I see
[20:26] <fellayaboy> so i can run commands
[20:26] <theadmin> !text | fellayaboy
[20:26] <karab44> hello
[20:26] <InsaneGene> I am experiencing another problem with ubuntu 12.04, I get the GUI crashed whenever I play video file, but it works fine when I play videos on youtube, any clue?
[20:27] <karab44> I am on U 13.04. Just discovered that vino takes a lot of CPU load with no reason. Reenabling remote desktop again fixes the problem.
[20:27] <fellayaboy> so i would have to boot into unetbootin by default then keep pushing esc or shift (depending on the grub version) until i get a grub menu?...lubuntu live cd comes with grub in the image already??
[20:27] <baphomet1> can anyone help me please?
[20:28] <baphomet1> or am I going to have to reinstall?
[20:29] <theadmin> fellayaboy: I'm not sure Ubuntu CDs are grub-based, but I think they are. Actually, you might have better experience if you actually install Ubuntu to the stick, as if it were a hard drive
[20:30] <baphomet1> theadmin, can you help me?
[20:30] <fellayaboy> yeah but its a lil more longer to shutdown
[20:30] <fellayaboy> so idk
[20:30] <Ben64> !details | baphomet1
[20:30] <theadmin> baphomet1: Maybe, sorry, I missed -- what's your problem
[20:30] <fellayaboy> but if i could just boot into terminal i should be good to go thanks for your advice though
[20:32] <fellayaboy> !details | fellayaboy
[20:33] <Bo_DK> anyone here running ubuntu on BBB ?
[20:33] <AlphaPinky> hi theadmin, I tried it in Ubuntu 13.4. Didn`t solve the problem. The HDMI output doesnt work. Multiple monitor support is very problematic in Ubuntu. I even tried 13.10, and it crashed every time. Always when I get back home I expect to use my big monitor, keyboard, mouse (in a dock). I tried to follow several tutorials. But later reading Bumblebee wiki and following their suggestions I`ve put myself
[20:33] <AlphaPinky>  in trouble and could not fix my Ubuntu. I think it is just not the right time for me. Ubuntu has to mature their native support for hardware. My notebook is: Dell XPS l502x. Anyway. I know the work done by Ubuntu is VERY important. And free software is very important. But still having to figure out complicated stuff is not easy. I know people here are much more friendly than usual but still it is not
[20:33] <AlphaPinky>  easy. I even donated $20 yesterday to ubuntu in hope one day they get this right anyway. This bumblebee support to me seems a bandaid (Please forgive me If I am wrong I dont know much or enough maybe). Not a real solution. But remember Im talking from an user POV.
[20:33] <FloodBot1> AlphaPinky: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:33] <Mathisen> baphomet1: 1. sudo apt-get purge software-center  2. sudo apt-get install software-center  3. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:34] <theadmin> AlphaPinky: It is a bandaid, sadly. We all depend on the actual manufacturers to provide support, let's hope nVidia releases an Optimus driver for Linux
[20:34] <AlphaPinky> I did not flood. :(
[20:34] <theadmin> AlphaPinky: It's a bot, it just detected a huge lot of text sent in a short amount of time and then sent you that message
[20:35] <baphomet1> Mathisen, thanks
[20:35] <AlphaPinky> Next time I hope to buy a hardware that actually has a good linux support.
[20:35] <theadmin> AlphaPinky: Buy Ubuntu Certified hardware, can't go wrong with that :)
[20:35] <AlphaPinky> But tbh I dont know any good that is available where I live.
[20:36] <AlphaPinky> They only certified low profile hardware. No video card... Now that Steam is available on Linux. Having video card becomes important.
[20:36] <jhutchins> AlphaPinky: Nvidia is supposedly releasing new documentation for their hardware that may help, although I think the multi-GUI architecture is mostly Intel.
[20:37] <AlphaPinky> multi-GUI?
[20:37] <jhutchins> AlphaPinky: Sorry GUP.
[20:37] <jhutchins> GPU even.
[20:37] <InsaneGene> I am experiencing another problem with ubuntu 12.04, I get the GUI crashed whenever I play video file, but it works fine when I play videos on youtube, any clue?
[20:37] <fellayaboy> which video card do u have guy
[20:38] <AlphaPinky> Nvidia GT 525m
[20:38] <fellayaboy> it shoudl work
[20:38] <jhutchins> InsaneGene: We can guess that youtube might be playing with flash, but we don't know what video player is crashing on you.
[20:38] <theadmin> AlphaPinky: Actually there are a few companies which manufacture computers designed to run Ubuntu. ThinkPenguin is one, I had amazing experience with them
[20:38] <fellayaboy> you ahve to go to the options of the drivers that come wiht it....did you install the nvidia hardware drivers?
[20:38] <theadmin> AlphaPinky: System76 is another
[20:39] <baphomet1> Mathisen, still crashing
[20:39] <codephobic> hi
[20:39] <fellayaboy> baphometl whats crashin
[20:39] <InsaneGene> it's called movie player comes with ubuntu, jhutchins
[20:39] <baphomet1> fellayaboy, software center
[20:39] <Chester> hello people! how are you all?
[20:39] <codephobic> I'm having some problems with my system's cpu & motherboard overheating. I think this is specific to Ubuntu 13.04, but I just want to make sure.
[20:39] <fellayaboy> oh..sucks..what are you trying to isntall anyway
[20:40] <fellayaboy> codephobic probably not
[20:40] <Mathisen> baphomet1 hmm > sudo apt-get install synaptic  then you at least can install packages using gui
[20:40] <baphomet1> fellayaboy, just wanted to browse
[20:40] <fellayaboy> maybe you should lower the brightness on your monitor
[20:40] <fellayaboy> strange that thats happening idk what it could be
[20:40] <codephobic> my mobo is an Asus M5A78L-M USB3 and the CPU is an AMD FX4100. No over-clocking.
[20:40] <baphomet1> Mathisen, would the crash show in the syslog or would it be in a different log?
[20:41] <fellayaboy> i guess try a lighter version of linux
[20:41] <fellayaboy> like lubuntu
[20:41] <jhutchins> codephobic: Are the heatsinks and fans clean and properly seated?
[20:41] <fellayaboy> maybe unity is churning but idk
[20:41] <codephobic> I find that, since upgrading to Ubuntu 13.04, temps have been north of 50C on average
[20:41] <AlphaPinky> theadmin, they have notebooks with videocards?
[20:41] <Mathisen> baphomet1 what version of ubuntu are you runing ?
[20:41] <theadmin> AlphaPinky: ...uh... yes.
[20:41] <theadmin> AlphaPinky: lol
[20:41] <baphomet1> Mathisen, 13.04
[20:41] <codephobic> jhutchins, yes. It was a perfectly fine system under previous Ubuntu and is fine under Windows 7.
[20:41] <Mathisen> baphomet1 try sudo pip install --upgrade oauthlib
[20:41] <theadmin> AlphaPinky: ThinkPenguin comes with Intel mostly I *think*, but System76 has some NVidia ones
[20:42] <Mathisen> and see if that helps
[20:42] <fellayaboy> alphapinky did you install nvidias drivers so that you can get multidisplay monitors
[20:42] <jhutchins> codephobic: Yes, but they accumulate dust over time.  That's a good place to start.
[20:42] <Calinou> codephobic: the open source AMD GPU driver can get the graphic card or IGP ridiculously hot
[20:42] <Calinou> only fixes: use catalyst, or use 3.11 kernel + DPM
[20:42] <quantumpants> guys, ive now got Winetricks set up. can anybody help me get Uplink Hacker Elite set up?
[20:42] <jhutchins> codephobic: Next you might want to look at cpufreq and at the system power settings.   You haven't said if this is a laptop or what hardware it is.
[20:42] <AlphaPinky> theadmin, I meant something that can run games with good quality. Not the onboard intel graphics.
[20:42] <codephobic> I've tried running Suse 12 (13? whatever the latest version is) and temps seem to be lower but, as I run Ubuntu 24/7 and with 4-5 VMs in the background, I definitely haven't been "taxing Suse as much as ubuntu".
[20:43] <baphomet1> Mathisen, is PIP python related?
[20:43] <theadmin> AlphaPinky: My Intel card runs games nicely. Portal, HL2, those kinda games. I hardly ever use the NVidia one as it consumes too much power
[20:43] <theadmin> AlphaPinky: So I dunno what you're talking about :D
[20:43] <Mathisen> baphomet1 if that not workes >  delete /home/user/.cache/software-center
[20:43] <codephobic> Calinou, ah, well that could be the issue as I "upgraded" to an Asus Radeon HD 6670
[20:43] <baphomet1> ok
[20:44] <Mathisen> and now im out of ideas
[20:44] <Mathisen> :/
[20:44] <Calinou> codephobic: give catalyst ("fglrx") a try
[20:44] <codephobic> but I needed to upgrade if I wanted to carry on using Ubuntu (or  indeed, Linux), since support for the Radeon HD 3000 series was dropped :(
[20:44] <InsaneGene> fellayaboy, I think I should try vlc, thanx for help anyway
[20:44] <Calinou> it should give better performance too
[20:44] <codephobic> jhutchins, it's a desktop.
[20:44] <Calinou> the open source driver is quickly improving, but power management is not in ubuntu yet
[20:44] <baphomet1> Mathisen, still crashing
[20:44] <codephobic> stock fan and cpu cooler.
[20:45] <codephobic> Calinou, I think I'm running Catalyst drivers.
[20:45] <Mathisen> sorry i dont know what to do :
[20:45] <Mathisen> :(
[20:45] <codephobic> I think I installed them a few months back (let me double-check).
[20:45] <AlphaPinky> Mathisen, I took the information about Multi monitor from here: https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki/Multi-monitor-setup
[20:45] <roychri> Is there a way to make the package manager *think* a package is install or stop trying to install a missing dependency? I installed mysql from mysql.com deb package and apt still want to install mysql-common (which I removed since mysql.deb replaces the earlier version).
[20:45] <Calinou> stock CPU cooler? meh
[20:45] <baphomet1> Mathisen, any idea which log it would show up in?
[20:45] <codephobic> yep, Catalyst is installed and running
[20:45] <Calinou> also, check using a tool such as "htop" for CPU usage
[20:45] <Calinou> maybe something is hogging up all your CPU
[20:46] <codephobic> Calinou, I've been using htop & sensor to get a reading on what the system is up to
[20:46] <codephobic> I find apport using a lot of cpu
[20:46] <codephobic> as well as occasionally nautilus
[20:46] <codephobic> and ntfs something or other (can't remember the process' name now)
[20:46] <Calinou> I'm on xubuntu 13.04 personally, don't have any heat issues, but I have intel CPU and nvidia card :P
[20:47] <codephobic> lol
[20:47] <codephobic> :P
[20:47] <Calinou> never had AMD hardware in my PC for years
[20:47] <codephobic> well, atleast my stuff was cheap
[20:47] <codephobic> :)
[20:47] <Calinou> this is powerful enough so I'll keep it as long as possible
[20:47] <codephobic> I don't play games, and right now I'm out of work, so no point in spending money on stuff I really don't need.
[20:48] <codephobic> I only use my computer for entertainment (comics, movies, youtube) and web work (small sites for clients).
[20:48] <codephobic> I find the biggest issue is with youtube
[20:48] <codephobic> firefox hoards the CPU quite a bit
[20:49] <codephobic> as does Chromium, when I use youtube
[20:49] <Calinou> you lack GPU acceleration then :P
[20:49] <AnotherTinFoilUs> I have a fairly wordy, practical question regarding Ubuntu.  Is this the correct channel for that sort of discussion?
[20:49] <codephobic> it's ridiculous because I actually used to put more strain on it before I upgraded to 13.04 (and thus, before I had a graphics card).
[20:50] <codephobic> back then I was using the on-board graphics chip and had 8GB RAM and the same shitty FX4100 as now :(
[20:50] <theadmin> AnotherTinFoilUs: Is it a tech support question? If so, sure.
[20:50] <theadmin> AnotherTinFoilUs: If not, #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place
[20:50] <Calinou> ask it, don't ask to ask
[20:50] <Calinou> we won't ban you if the question is inappropriate :P
[20:51] <AnotherTinFoilUs> Hey, man, some moderators are picky, Calinou.  :3
[20:51] <Calinou> not /that/ picky
[20:51] <codephobic> Calinou, seriously though, is it possible that youtube is straining my cpu because I thought it would be using my GPU instead?
[20:51] <Calinou> codephobic: neither chromium nor firefox can use acceleration on H.264 with HTML5
[20:51] <Calinou> only the proprietary Chrome can as far as I know
[20:51] <Calinou> with flash, I don't know
[20:51] <codephobic> bah, moderating isn't worth doing unless you get to be fickle and ban people a lot :D
[20:51] <theadmin> codephobic: Please go to chrome://gpu/
[20:51] <theadmin> codephobic: See if 3D acceleration is on
[20:52] <AnotherTinFoilUs> Ubuntu's distributed version of Firefox seems to tack parameters onto my URL bar searches.  client=ubuntu&channel=fs in the case of google, t=canonical in the case of duckduckgo.  Is the best way to get rid of this to be to drop the repository version and snag it directly from Mozilla?
[20:52] <codephobic> theadmin, wow - that's an eye-opener!
[20:52] <codephobic> thanks, that's quite disturbing :(
[20:52] <codephobic> none of the flash stuff can use hardware acceleration at all
[20:52] <codephobic> what's with that?
[20:53] <Calinou> it depends on your driver, and maybe browser
[20:53] <Calinou> AnotherTinFoilUs: why?
[20:53] <theadmin> codephobic: You probably need another driver for your graphics card, what is the card?
[20:53] <jtal> How can I install packages that require open jdk packages but not install open jdk- instead use the oracle jdk I have installed already?
[20:53] <Calinou> HD 6670 + catalyst, theadmin
[20:53] <diverdude> how can i see what php packages i have installed?
[20:53] <codephobic> theadmin, it's an Asus Radeon HD 6670
[20:53] <theadmin> AnotherTinFoilUs: Possibly, yes. I think there's an extension which does it too, "Pure URL" or something.
[20:54] <codephobic> I'm running Catalyst for it
[20:54] <theadmin> codephobic: Is it running properly? Open the CCCLE, does it not bail out with an error?
[20:54] <AnotherTinFoilUs> theadmin:  thank you.  Frankly, all the software I am running is still from repositories, and it's less of a pain to keep updated that way.
[20:54] <codephobic> I could turn off the "tear free" option. It says that should free up the GPU a bit.
[20:55] <codephobic> theadmin, it's running fine as far as I can see - I used it to configure multiple monitors (briefly).
[20:55] <theadmin> AnotherTinFoilUs: Yeah repositories are awesome.
[20:55] <AnotherTinFoilUs> Calinou:  didn't mean to ignore you, I think that's a whole rant better meant for offtopic.
[20:55] <AnotherTinFoilUs> One I'll spare everyone from.
[20:55] <theadmin> codephobic: Is it configured to use the AMD GPU, or a non-dedicated onboard one (usually Intel)?
[20:56] <gawa2103> Hello?
[20:56] <jtal> hello
[20:56] <codephobic> I ran 2 monitors until I realised I was never going to replicate the utility I saw on Windows 7, so now I just use the Dell  -1920x1200 @ 60hz
[20:56] <AnotherTinFoilUs> Good afternoon, gawa.
[20:56] <Calinou> codephobic: tear free slows down stuff, yes
[20:56] <gawa2103> Anyone mind helping me, I can't seem to get my graphic card specs up, it just says "unknown".
[20:56] <Calinou> gawa2103: what is your graphics card?
[20:57] <codephobic> theadmin, sorry didn't get that. are you asking if the browser is configured to use my Radeon or the Catalyst software?
[20:57] <theadmin> gawa2103: Ctrl+Alt+T, type "lspci | grep -i vga"
[20:57] <theadmin> gawa2103: And hit Enter.
[20:57] <theadmin> codephobic: The Control Centre
[20:57] <codephobic> My on-board graphics chip is turned off at BIOS level. I turned it off after I installed the Radeon HD 6670... So as to save on mobo resources.
[20:57] <gawa2103> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[20:57] <theadmin> codephobic: AMD thingamajig
[20:57] <codephobic> lol
[20:57] <theadmin> codephobic: Ah, okay... Hm.
[20:58] <codephobic> the Catalyst thing is running with the 6670
[20:58] <gawa2103> I know my laptop is practically just bs. lol
[20:58] <codephobic> I couldn't use Catalyst before (on the on-board Radeon HD 3040)
[20:58] <jtal> Rules say not to keep asking, so I'll only ask once more and then I dunno not use the software for now... does anyone have a good method for installing packages that depend on open jdk but NOT install open jdk because you already have oracle java installed?
[20:58] <theadmin> codephobic: chrome://flags/#ignore-gpu-blacklist -- enable this option.
[20:58] <theadmin> codephobic: Then restart Chrome and see if stuff starts working sanely.
[20:59] <AnotherTinFoilUs> One more, cautious question, then I'll putter away.  unity-shopping-lens aside, is there any other similar behavior in any of the default packages I should be aware of?  I don't mind helping Canonical monetize, but I prefer to opt-in.
[20:59] <Calinou> no
[20:59] <gawa2103> By the way, I have been trying to change to win7 but everytime I am booting it can't find drivers, anyone care to help? :)
[20:59] <codephobic> theadmin, I use Chromium most of the time (don't trust google), will that be an issue?
[20:59] <AnotherTinFoilUs> jtal:  --no-install-recommends helps in that regard, in some cases, but that's all I got.
[20:59] <Calinou> chromium doesn't have a few proprietary/patented stuff
[20:59] <theadmin> AnotherTinFoilUs: popularity-contest is preinstalled I think. It sends statistics of packages you have installed to Canonical, helps them figure out what to put in the repos and such
[20:59] <Calinou> they do not make any money from that
[20:59] <AnotherTinFoilUs> theadmin:  that's an oldie.  Like I said, I don't mind helping out.  :3
[20:59] <theadmin> codephobic: Eh, not at all, Chromium actually tends to work better with Linux
[21:00] <jtal> ok thanks
[21:00] <baphomet1> looks like reinstalling the OS is probably my only option if no one has any better suggestions
[21:00] <theadmin> codephobic: chrome:// is just an internal URL protocol the Chrome family of browsers (Google Chrome, Chromium, COMODO Dragon, Yandex.Browser, ...) use
[21:01] <theadmin> codephobic: Has nothing to really do with Chrome itself
[21:02] <codephobic> theadmin, I'm looking for the option you said to enable ... found a few options that sound like they should be enabled...
[21:02] <AnotherTinFoilUs> theadmin:  with a little customization, that (Pure URL) did it.  Again, thank you.  A lot of support IRCs are graveyards.
[21:02] <theadmin> codephobic: Just the one I gave, ignore-gpu-blacklist. It's a direct link. It should appear on the very top of the page
[21:03] <theadmin> AnotherTinFoilUs: Hey no problem. I totally understand your concerns.
[21:03] <theadmin> codephobic: The name of it in English is "Override software rendering list"
[21:03] <Bo_DK> anyone running ubuntu on BBB hardware?
[21:03] <codephobic> theadmin, I don't see  a specific option on that page, just a lits of GPU compositing, thread compositing, Accelerated overflow scroll ...
[21:03] <AnotherTinFoilUs> I would just stick with my usual, paranoia-level Debian, but it doesn't play nice with the one device.  Also, I'm the one guy on the planet who likes Gnome 3.8.
[21:03] <AnotherTinFoilUs> Anyway, you all have a nice day.
[21:04] <codephobic> (maybe it's different in chromium?)
[21:04] <theadmin> codephobic: Hm. Maybe you're using a version which doesn't have this feature. I use Chrome myself, primarily because it helps me stay up-to-date and get latest features
[21:04] <theadmin> codephobic: That does suck though, but yeah look around that page to see if you find something helpful
[21:05] <codephobic> thanks theadmin, found that "override software ..."
[21:06] <Calinou> Bo_DK: BBB?
[21:06] <Ben64> baphomet1: run "software-center" from terminal, and pastebin the result
[21:06] <codephobic> oh wow ... my CPU usage is spiiiiiiking
[21:06] <codephobic> lol
[21:06] <theadmin> "center"... Americans :/
[21:06] <jtal> ah apparently the problem is that package maintainers have decided to depend on default-jre
[21:07] <gawa2103> Anyone know how to install win7 from usb on a ubuntu?
[21:07] <baphomet1> Ben64, ok
[21:07] <Bo_DK> BBB=BEagle Bone Black
[21:07] <codephobic> chromium @ 16~20%, Compiz @ 14-17% and something called /usr/bin/X :0 @ 11%
[21:08] <codephobic> Chromium definitely feels a touch more responsive.
[21:08] <theadmin> codephobic: X is X.org, lol. The core of graphics in Ubuntu, it allows graphical software to run
[21:08] <Calinou> /usr/bin/X is the X.org server
[21:08] <gawa2103> How do I install my graphic card drivers?
[21:08] <Calinou> ninja'd :(
[21:08] <baphomet1> Ben64, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6156189/
[21:08] <jtal> theadmin: it kind of makes sense- no one was pronouncing the "e" at the end anyway ;)
[21:08] <Calinou> gawa2103: the open source drivers are in the kernel
[21:09] <Calinou> the proprietary ones are not
[21:09] <Bo_DK> have 3 commands i need to run at boot time... i have tried to put them in rc.local
[21:09] <Bo_DK> does not work
[21:09] <Calinou> gawa2103: you boot the USB drive, but remember that you'll just erase ubuntu when doing that...
[21:09] <jtal> at the same time "tr" doesnt appear at the end of english words... so might as well slip a vowel in there
[21:09] <Bo_DK> if i open an terminal vis ssh and do it manual it works
[21:09] <theadmin> jtal: I guess you have a point... It's probably borrowed anyway
[21:09] <codephobic> theadmin, :$ yeah realised as soon as I pressed enter.
[21:09] <codephobic> It was one of those type-before-think moments.
[21:10] <Ben64> baphomet1: what version of ubuntu?
[21:10] <jtal> off topic: google "etymology centre" now does something
[21:10] <theadmin> Anyways I'm off for now, good night to everyone.
[21:11] <codephobic> night and thanks for your assistance theadmin
[21:11] <codephobic> oh, missed
[21:11] <codephobic> :(
[21:11] <codephobic> well thanks Calinou too :)
[21:11] <Calinou> night too
[21:11] <codephobic> night :)
[21:12] <codephobic> anyone else find ubuntu 13.04 making your system run a little hotter than previous Ubuntu versions?
[21:12] <gawa2103> I have booted the USB drive, gotten the bios to run but when it says something about picking driver, non of them have any space left.
[21:12] <baphomet1> Ben64, 13.04
[21:13] <microserf> Hello there
[21:13] <Ben64> baphomet1: try running "gksudo software-center"
[21:14] <baphomet1> Ben64, same result
[21:14] <baphomet1> messages may be different this time?
[21:14] <baphomet1> hang on
[21:14] <baphomet1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6156208/
[21:14] <baphomet1> Ben64, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6156208/
[21:14] <gawa2103> Again, when I run the bios from the usb stick, there is no drivers with space left, help? :)
[21:17]  * deepblue is away: I'm busy
[21:17] <Ben64> !away > deepblue
[21:17] <gawa2103> Anyone that can help me with changing bios to win7?
[21:17] <Ben64> baphomet1: does /usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/ui/gtk3/views/lobbyview.py exist?
[21:18] <Calinou> gawa2103: if you want to dual boot, install ubuntu *after* windows!
[21:19] <baphomet1> Ben64, yes
[21:19] <Ben64> baphomet1: and are you running any PPAs? namely gnome or other display ones?
[21:19] <puff> I have a thinkpad t520.  I recently installed ubuntu 13.4 (used to run 12.4, did a reinstall instead of upgrading).  My wireless network drops out repeatedly, every 30-45 minutes.  Sometimes I can reconnect by using gnome network manager to select my wireless router, other times the wireless router doesn't appear in the listing and I have to uncheck/recheck Enable Networking to get back online.
[21:19] <gawa2103> calinou: I currently have ubuntu 12.04. I have booted the usb drive and runned it as bios. But there is no drivers with space left.
[21:24] <baphomet1> Ben64, let me check.
[21:24] <ISasdef> test
[21:25] <baphomet1> Ben64, I am running additional PPA's and I do have a gnome 3 PPA
[21:26] <Ben64> well thats whats causing the problem
[21:26] <Ben64> but this may work anyway -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1163886/comments/45
[21:26] <baphomet1> Ben64, checking now.  Should I disable the gnome PPA I have?
[21:27] <baphomet1> oooh
[21:27] <baphomet1> hold on
[21:27] <Ben64> easier to try the link
[21:28] <baphomet1> Ben64, that did the trick!  thanks man!  good find!
[21:28] <gawa2103> I just tried running win7 on usb flash drive as bios, everytime I try its the same error, no driver with space.
[21:28] <baphomet1> bbl
[21:29] <Mathisen> God Night! everyone
[21:29] <sander__> How do I change the terminal language back to english?
[21:30] <lagbox> hello ... i am having issues that just started like 2 days ago where I have no sound devices at the moment
[21:31] <oscar> hi. is it possible to run with terminal1 some programm, which keeps on running even if i close the terminal, AND THEN, LATER, recall the programm to check its progress?
[21:31] <K1rk> oscar: You want screen.
[21:31] <puff> oscar: screen or tmux.
[21:31] <puff> oscar: I use screen, but tmux is the future, so if you're just getting started, probably better to start with tmux.
[21:31] <K1rk> oscar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen
[21:31] <oscar> mmm... yea. heard of those. is that even possible through ssh?
[21:32] <puff> oscar: Yes.
[21:32] <oscar> lets say i call e.g. "nohup wget BLAH" via ssh
[21:32] <pression> hi
[21:32] <oscar> later on the box where i called wget i wanna chck the wget status.
[21:32] <lagbox> screen
[21:32] <oscar> k, screen. on it. :)
[21:32] <bekks> oscar: using nohup, you cant. Using screen/tmux, you can.
[21:32] <pression> hi guys, I am looking for a text editor what be able open other text file with a click, some idea pls?
[21:33] <oscar> thx K1rk thx lagbox
[21:33] <pression> oscar mayer?
[21:33] <oscar> hehe pression
[21:33] <puff> oscar: Screen or tmux.  tmux is a replacement for screen, basically screen with better-coded internals to make it easier to support and extend.  The guy who maintains screen says tmux rocks, so you might as well go with tmux.
[21:33] <pression> hi guys, I am looking for a text editor what be able open other text file with a click, some idea pls?
[21:34] <pression> I need a cafe con leche in plaza mayor...
[21:34] <oscar> good to know. so. purge screen
[21:34] <oscar> and apt-get install tmux
[21:34] <jubale> I'm experiencing a weird problem with aptitude complaining about /opt/lampp/lib/libstdc++ when I try to use aptitude without sudo.
[21:34] <puff> oscar: Yeah.
[21:34] <K1rk> puff: didn't know that, I've always been a screen user
[21:34] <puff> oscar: Only reason I haven't upgraded is I'm just too damned used to screen :-).
[21:34] <lagbox> pression ... what do you mean by a click ?
[21:34] <oscar> hehe. i am new to the business, so lets do it right
[21:34] <bekks> jubale: a) dont use aptitude since there is b) apt-get and c) all the packages of lampp are available through the repos.
[21:35] <oscar> wow. tmux is already installed
[21:35] <jubale> I usually use apt-get, but since I noticed this problem I want to solve it.
[21:35] <K1rk> Hey so I have a quick question about wireless...  if I could come up with a solution, I'd help us out at work and I'd have faster speeds on university WiFi.
[21:35] <pression> I am for example, I write: the box is in the OFFICE, and I open the text file office where the directory is
[21:35] <pression> sorry for my scum english
[21:35] <K1rk> If I have two SSID's with the same name, how can I make network-manager prefer the 5Ghz one?
[21:36] <jubale> The specific error is: aptitude: /opt/lampp/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not found (required by /usr/lib/libboost_iostreams.so.1.49.0)
[21:36] <pression> the spanish irc is almost empty
[21:36] <lagbox> sublime will let you open a directory
[21:37] <f00bar80> I've just installed ubuntu from usb stick on a samsung netbook NP-N100S-E02, the first boot I found and could boot from USB and installed linux ubuntu from usb, now i can't find USB disk option or anything else than HD Toshiba in the Bios boot order menu, any idea what happened or is wrong ?
[21:37] <pression> lovely
[21:37] <K1rk> f00bar80: If you can't find the drives in the BIOS then that's not a software issue and is nothing Ubuntu did.
[21:37] <Soe1en> hello everyone, i have a weird question is it possible to change the output of an terminal? For example instead text on the display I would like to output morse based codes in audio form
[21:37] <karab44> Hi
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> f00bar80, Can you boot the ubuntu, sometimes grub is put on the usb's mbr.
[21:38] <lagbox> so i need to reload alsa but it won't unload the modules
[21:38] <Purso> @ Soe1en lol
[21:38] <Rory> First Soe1en you will need this script which will turn a string into morse code http://grulos.blogspot.co.uk/2006/03/generate-morse-code-from-ascii.html
[21:38] <lagbox> anyone have any success upgrading to 13.10 beta ?
[21:38] <pression> guys, i installed an app: sl
[21:38] <pression> it is very funny
[21:38] <exnntech> Has anybody ever heard of a Ubuntu Server (12.04) installation not rebooting over SSH when sudo -i 'd
[21:38] <Rory> Soe1en: Next you need a quest to turn that series of dots and dashes into a midi or something. It's a programming project really.
[21:39] <Rory> exnntech: Server-specific support belongs in #ubuntu-server
[21:39] <f00bar80> wilee-nilee, yes i can boot ubuntu
[21:39] <exnntech> Rory: Ahhhhh thanks
[21:40] <oscar> niiiice. tmux even works parallel. i can use terminal just like vnc. see what the other part is doing.
[21:40] <f00bar80> wilee-nilee, so what do you suggest?
[21:41] <Soe1en> Rory: guess so, not sure what kind of question would be the righ one to ask, do you have any suggestions?
[21:41] <lagbox> is there a channel to talk about upgrading to the beta ??
[21:42] <gregL> lagbox perhaps #ubuntu+1
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> f00bar80, My router restarted so I lost the channel what was you answer on the ubuntu booting
[21:45] <pression> guys I solved it, if you want open a text file from a text file clickinig in a word, use hyperlink, and then do ctr + click
[21:45] <f00bar80> wilee-nilee, yea ubuntu boots
[21:45] <Soe1en> pression: way to go!
[21:45] <anunnaki> hi can someone reccommend me a DM that has a on screen keyboard just like Gnome3 has? i need to switch out of Gnome3 but need that virtual keyboard since im using a tablet
[21:46] <lagbox> i am certain they all have virtual keyboards ... wether they come up by default or not i am not sure
[21:46] <wilee-nilee> f00bar80, not sure why the usb is not showing, does it show in the OS?
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> f00bar80, Is ubuntu booting without the usb plugged in?
[21:48] <linelevel> Hi guys. I followed the Ubuntu docs to install Postfix, and I can connect to the postfix server locally and send mail, but mail that I send to my gmail address for testing is never received. Can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[21:48] <f00bar80> wilee-nilee, yes the USB shows in the OS, yea ubuntu boots without the USB pluged in
[21:49] <f00bar80> wilee-nilee, is there no way to remove grub from the usb MBR ?
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> f00bar80, I can't say definitively why it is not showing in the bios, I use a per-session bot myself I never change the bios. I would only suspect the mbr if grub was put there on the install as a no read possibility, maybe a reformat is needed.
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> boot*
[21:51] <wilee-nilee> f00bar80, who makes the usb?
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> I had one that had firmware that worked against linux I forget the makers though
[21:53] <f00bar80> wilee-nilee, universal installer
[21:53] <anunnaki> lagbox, yeah i installed a couple with openbox and they were tiny and not as clean
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> f00bar80, who is the usb manufacturer?
[21:54] <f00bar80> wilee-nilee, kingston
[21:54] <baphomet1> can anyone assist with getting vpnc connected to an IPSec tunnel in ubuntu?
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> f00bar80, You might check on the web if there are any problems with that model on linux and firmware, the one I had problems with wasn't a kingston, might just be user error, heaven forbid, lol. ;)
[21:56] <oscar> is there some tool which automounts usb devices on a server without gui?
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | baphomet1
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> oscar, fstab would on a boot
[21:59] <oscar> dont want to boot
[21:59] <baphomet1> I am having troubles getting vpnc to connect to my home IPSec tunnel.  Can someone please help?
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> oscar, plugging it in should mount it.
[21:59] <oscar> really? this would be awesome.
[22:02] <baphomet1> wilee-nilee, any ideas?
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> on what
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> baphomet1, On your question no.
[22:03] <K1rk> baphomet1: I'm vaguely familiar with vpnc. My coworker gave me a config to use for our work vpn.
[22:03] <sevidor> alguien que me ayude aqui
[22:03] <K1rk> I think our config is only like 3 lines.
[22:03] <baphomet1> wilee-nilee, seems this question is unanswerable.  the duckduckgo doesn't return much either
[22:04] <K1rk> are you sure your ipsec server is good, and the firewall is correctly configured, etc?
[22:04] <baphomet1> K1rk, were you using it to connect to an IPSec tunnel?
[22:04] <K1rk> baphomet1: cisco vpn, so I think so yes.
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> baphomet1, without any details usually not is all.
[22:04] <daftykins> one does not connect TO a tunnel, but THROUGH
[22:04] <oscar> plugged my usb into ubuntu server. nothing :(
[22:04] <baphomet1> K1rk, yes.  I am able to connect to it using an OSX client and iPhone and a window sclient.  the only clients with issues are linux clients
[22:04] <oscar> i dont want to edit fstab :((
[22:04] <K1rk> oscar: It should show up as /dev/sd something
[22:04] <K1rk> /dev/sdd, etc
[22:04] <K1rk> Go to /dev
[22:04] <K1rk> ls /dev/sd*
[22:04] <K1rk> Plug in device
[22:05] <K1rk> ls /dev/sd* again
[22:05] <FloodBot1> K1rk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:05] <K1rk> See if it appears there, then if it does, mount it using the mount command.
[22:05] <K1rk> It may not automagically mount, but the partitions should be available in /dev/ once it's plugged in.
[22:05] <K1rk> Then once you find it you could mount it with a command such as mount /dev/sdb4 /media/temp
[22:05] <oscar> thx
[22:05] <oscar> perfect
[22:06] <K1rk> baphomet1: My vpnc config for ipsec has 3 lines.
[22:07] <K1rk> baphomet1: IPSec gateway 1.2.3.4
[22:07] <K1rk> baphomet1: IPSec ID YourIDHere
[22:07] <K1rk> baphomet1: IPSec secret your-ipsec-secret-goes-here
[22:07] <K1rk> Obviously replace 1.2.3.4 with your IP, and replace YourIDHere and your-ipsec-secret-goes-here.
[22:08] <K1rk> baphomet1: No idea how to help you if you have any custom configuration. But that vpnc config works for me on our Cisco tunnel
[22:08] <baphomet1> K1rk, mine has the same info except mine also has a group name and some additional details that are required by my server.  I can have it prompt me for those instead if you think it would help.  Everytime I have tried to connect to it I get "vpnc: no response from target".  but again I know it's up because I am connected to it right now on a windows client.
[22:08] <baphomet1> K1rk, my tunnel is not cisco based.  maybe.
[22:08] <WriteEscape> Hey, is anyone here good with symlinks?
[22:09] <K1rk> WriteEscape: What's up?
[22:09] <baphomet1> K1rk, I installed a package for it.  the config files are housed in the /etc/racoon directory
[22:09] <WriteEscape> I've got a network of minecraft servers sharing a folder for permissions, and i was wondering if i can 'share' a folder containing said permissions
[22:10] <K1rk> WriteEscape: Yeah I do something similar with Halo servers. They just need read access?
[22:10] <WriteEscape> yeah just read access
[22:10] <K1rk> WriteEscape: If you chmod 755, then everyone has read access.
[22:11] <K1rk> WriteEscape: otherwise do group level (750) read access and chgrp the folder to a group all your Minecraft users are contained in
[22:11] <WriteEscape> oh thats where i went wrong
[22:13] <K1rk> baphomet1: If you're getting no response from target, I'd guess you've got a simple mistake, such as vpnc is not loading the config you think it is, or your server is unreachable from your client for some reason.
[22:13] <K1rk> (firewall on server or client, issue with NAT gateway, no Internet connection on client...)
[22:14] <K1rk> baphomet1: Traditionally I think I've always run the command as "vpnc -c /path/to/config"
[22:15] <K1rk> WriteEscape: Got it?
[22:15] <WriteEscape> i just wish they used mysql for permissions so i could link more servers then just local ones
[22:16] <K1rk> WriteEscape: Could always do an NFS mount or something
[22:16] <WriteEscape> K1rk: got teamspeak?
[22:16] <K1rk> WriteEscape: Or rsync nightly between servers
[22:16] <K1rk> WriteEscape: I do use TS from time to time, unfortunately as I'm in a class right now I won't be able to talk on that at the moment.
[22:16] <WriteEscape> Ah okay
[22:17] <K1rk> WriteEscape: If you wanted to add me on xmpp, skype, gtalk, aim, etc... that'd be fine.  Sounds like you might be working on a cool project.
[22:17] <baphomet1> K1rk, I assume it is something simple.  Trying to track down someone who actually is able to help out has been the problem.  most people just say "use openvpn!" or something along those lines.  let me try the -c /path/to/config option
[22:17] <WriteEscape> Yeah sure K1rk hook me up with your skype
[22:18] <K1rk> WriteEscape: pm
[22:18] <K1rk> baphomet1: Yeah suggesting an alternative is not an answer to a question imo
[22:18] <Ronus> I'm wondering...
[22:18] <K1rk> baphomet1: I personally do use openvpn and I hate using the vpnc for work so I rarely ever use it.
[22:18] <neopsyche> hi peeps..
[22:19] <K1rk> baphomet1: (mostly because of how my work has the VPN set up.)
[22:19] <Ronus> can someone give me a hand with trying to figure out how to get my Lexmark X1155 to work
[22:19] <Ronus> <---MAJOR noob
[22:19] <K1rk> Ew lexmark.
[22:19] <neopsyche> Tried to install compiz fuzion extras on unity on 13.4/10 hybrid and ended up with graphics running in low graphics mode after installing gnome 3 to get another GUI working.
[22:19] <baphomet1> K1rk, I have an openVPN tunnel setup that works from a linux client, but not exactly how I want it to
[22:19] <neopsyche> Anyone help get unity back?
[22:19] <K1rk> Ronus: If CUPS doesn't have a driver, you need to find one on the net.  CUPS drivers are called "ppd" files.  So check if Lexmark offers a PPD for the printer.  I'm guessing they won't.  In that case, try one of the universal drivers CUPS offers.
[22:20] <baphomet1> K1rk, being able to connect to the IPSec tunnel would solve the issue.
[22:20] <Ronus> hey k1rk it's ALL I have okay?
[22:20] <baphomet1> K1rk, or if I could get the OpenVPN tunnel working the way I want...
[22:20] <K1rk> baphomet1: Yeah and IPSec is a legitimate solution.
[22:20] <K1rk> baphomet1: I do have some expertise in OpenVPN as well
[22:20] <K1rk> baphomet1: What seems to be the problem?
[22:21] <vite> testing the resilience of a code I wrote, can people msg vitebot and tell me if it echos you
[22:21] <baphomet1> K1rk, perhaps you could help out on that front then :).  When I connect to my openVPN tunnel with a linux client I am not able to access any of the remote LAN clients.  this is what I am trying to solve.  the server I am running my OpenVPN setup on is an Amahi server running on top of ubuntu 12.04.  I followed their instructions for bridging the interfaces, but I am still getting a 10.8.0.0/24 address and not the remote L
[22:21] <baphomet1> AN address as they indicate I should be.
[22:22] <Ronus> okay thanks
[22:22] <K1rk> baphomet1: I'm guessing your issue there is with iptables not being set up how you want.
[22:22] <K1rk> baphomet1: You need IP forwarding turned on in your kernel, you can echo 1 to some file, I think /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forwarding (I can look it up on my config)
[22:23] <K1rk> baphomet1: Then you've either gotta do NAT or have a return route for your VPN IP range on your LAN machines.
[22:23] <baphomet1> K1rk, this is what they said to do
[22:23] <baphomet1> K1rk, https://wiki.amahi.org/index.php/VPN_Bridging
[22:23] <K1rk> There are advantages to both
[22:23] <baphomet1> brb
[22:24] <K1rk> baphomet1: Nah dude I've never had to do a bridged interface for my VPN.  I've had some very complex VPN route setups in the past.
[22:27] <h3lp> boa noite
[22:33] <baphomet1> K1rk, that was what they recommended.  So what would I have to do to get mine working?
[22:33] <h3lp> tem algum canal do brasil?
[22:33] <bekks> !br|h3lp
[22:34] <fellayaboy> in lubuntu how do i get a script to run a popup gui for password input
[22:34] <bekks> fellayaboy: For the password of whom, or for which command?
[22:34] <fellayaboy> im making a script that will ssh -X user@dns program and it wont prompt me for password
[22:35] <bekks> fellayaboy: Then use public keys for ssh.
[22:35] <fellayaboy> no
[22:35] <fellayaboy> how can i invoke a gui for password input ..do i have to modify and add something to the script.
[22:35] <K1rk> baphomet1: I can help you with OVPN in a bit if your VPNC isn't working out for ya.
[22:35] <bekks> fellayaboy: Why dont you (want to) use public keys?
[22:36] <oscar> xubuntu top panel is to "agrressive". i cant play my fav game in fullscreen. how to tell that panel to go in the bg if an application is fullscreened?!
[22:36] <baphomet1> K1rk, vpnc seems to be a dead end at this point.  any help you can offer with OVPN would be greatly appreciated :).
[22:36] <fellayaboy> dont know how they work actually... im guessing i would leave a key that could be copied so its security reason
[22:37] <bekks> fellayaboy: Thats entirely wrong. ssh public keys are much more secure than passwords.
[22:37] <bekks> !ssh | fellayaboy
[22:40] <fellayaboy> isnt there anyway to invoke a prompt though...how can i tell my script that its prompting me for a password ..i know if i echo $1 is the first command argument is there something similar in bash that will tellme ...something like an exit code or something
[22:41] <fabiobik> hello guys, i need a little help. Ive formated my /sdcard/ (internal) and now i cant mount it trught CWM
[22:41] <fellayaboy> hey can someone tell me how to set grub to boot into text mode again
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> !text
[22:42] <ArielX_> can anyone put me through on how to create an email smtp server on ubuntu.. thanks
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> ArielX_: not exactly a small task I doubt anyone will talk through to be honest.
[22:44] <ArielX_> waoh
[22:44] <ArielX_> thats my problem... its just too risky to do it all alone
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> ArielX_: I would try a thread at the ubuntu forums as well, live is not always the best source.
[22:47] <ArielX_> at least mistakes will be corrected ASAP rather than me having much to deal with
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> just a handful of people here, there is #ubuntu-server as well, the forum has a lot of people is all.
[22:48] <fellayaboy> where is the grub menu configuration file
[22:48] <NotreDev> the output of my strace includes this: brk(0) = 0x2052000. however, looking at the man pages, the purpose of that input argument: brk() sets the end of the data segment to the value specified by addr (e.g. 0). this is the second system call. what's going on here?
[22:48] <Rory> !grub | fellayaboy /etc/default/grub
[22:49] <K1rk> ArielX_: Have you looked at Zimbra?
[22:49] <ArielX_> I have zimbra email box
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> fellayaboy: you can do it per  boot, or edit that etc file, run update-grub after the file edit
[22:50] <fellayaboy> thank u tahts exactly what i needed to know wilee
[22:51] <wilee-nilee> cool, enjoy
[22:52] <ArielX_>  Next, generate or obtain a digital certificate for TLS. See Certificates for details. This example also uses a Certificate Authority (CA). For information on generating a CA certificate see Certification Authority.
[22:52] <fellayaboy> hwo do i invoke to bootup the gui os from lubuntus tty
[22:52] <hobarey> how to disable samba?
[22:52] <ArielX_> how do I generate the key
[22:53] <WUTANG4EVA> r
[22:53] <ArielX_> how do I generate the digital certificate
[22:53] <wilee-nilee> fellayaboy: might be startx in lubuntu not sure.
[22:53] <baphomet1> K1rk, ready whenever you are :)
[22:57] <karab44> hello
[22:57] <karab44> I want to add to autostart one service
[22:57] <karab44> how to do this?
[22:58] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know a pdf viewer for ubuntu like the one in Mac?
[22:58] <AlanJenkins> mojtaba: try evince
[22:59] <AlanJenkins> although not sure how similar you want it to be to the mac app
[22:59] <AlanJenkins> any particular feature?
[22:59] <baphomet1> karab44, https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/how-to-auto-start-services-on-boot-112432/
[22:59] <baphomet1> karab44, make sure to update-rc.d when you finish
[22:59] <mojtaba> AlanJenkins: in evince I can not even write down notes or annotations!!
[23:00] <karab44> okay so how many ways are to add app to upstart and why so many?
[23:00] <AlanJenkins> mojtaba: you did not specify you wanted those features =P
[23:00] <karab44> I just read that I have to create /etc/init/tracd.conf
[23:00] <karab44> now rc.d
[23:00] <karab44> I heard also about others
[23:01] <karab44> what is the difference?
[23:01] <bekks>  /etc/init/ is an invalid path.
[23:01] <AlanJenkins> mojtaba: there is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xournal
[23:01] <karab44> bekks: why? There are dozens of ubuntu apps
[23:01] <bekks> karab44: Do you mean "/etc/init.d/tracd.conf"?
[23:01] <karab44> yes
[23:02] <bekks> AH, ok, my fault.
[23:02] <karab44> no
[23:02] <mojtaba> AlanJenkins: If I make annotation with Xournal, then it is just working in linux, not in windows. I want to share something with my friend in windows. :(
[23:02] <karab44> bekks: http://codebyko.se/2010/11/26/tracd-with-upstart-on-ubuntu/
[23:02] <karab44> init
[23:03] <AlanJenkins> mojtaba: ok lemme look a bit more and see if i can find anything
[23:03] <mojtaba> AlanJenkins: thanks
[23:05] <AlanJenkins> mojtaba: its closed source but there is a linux version of foxit reader
[23:05] <hadifarnoud> how can I monitor open connections with nmap? I want to see exactly what the connection path is i.e. google.com/search/?q=...
[23:05] <AlanJenkins> http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/desklinux/
[23:05] <karab44> bekks: could you spot the difference?
[23:06] <mojtaba> AlanJenkins: thanks. I will try it.
[23:06] <bekks> karab44: Nope
[23:07] <zippo^> can I install Gimp 2.8 without PPA?
[23:07] <karab44> There are five methods to do one, the same thing. Four of them are wrong, one is good but this is today tomorrow this one will be wrong and one of the rest good or even sixth of all
[23:07] <pinPoint> so
[23:07] <pinPoint> is apache 2.4 on ubuntu yet?
[23:07] <OerHeks> !info gimp raring
[23:07] <karab44> So who decides which is good and whichone is wrong?
[23:09] <OerHeks> pinPoint, no, it will be in next 13.10 saucy
[23:09] <OerHeks> !info apache2 saucy
[23:09] <OerHeks> !info apache2 raring
[23:10] <pinPoint> precise?
[23:10] <karab44> bekks: so if /init.d is good. Why /init is wrong and what's the difference?
[23:10] <pinPoint> OerHeks: so its live?
[23:10] <OerHeks> !info apache2 precise
[23:10] <bekks> karab44: I corrected myself.
[23:11] <karab44> I think I found the way
[23:11] <OerHeks> maybe backports will give 2.4.x
[23:11] <karab44> It's amatour but it works
[23:11] <karab44> I typed in dash startup and added a command
[23:11] <berc> http://Fun4Days.com/sms/sms.php?share=63274
[23:11] <karab44> could anybody tell me where it goes? where this command is saved and executed?
[23:11] <karab44> It seems it works just fine
[23:12] <karab44> is this a good method to create such daemon?
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> average: hovering at the mean eh. ;)
[23:18] <Rubino123> is there a way to empty the notify-osd message queue, when it get backed-up it gets 5 minutes behind
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> i think theres a service you could restart. but i cant recall its name
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> i had somthing similer happen ages ago
[23:20] <mortal1> guys if I do an apt-get dist-upgrade, it won't upgrade me from 12.04 to ...whatever the latest ubuntu is will it?
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> no
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> mortal1:  dist-upgrade does NOT NOT NOT upgrade to the next release
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[23:21] <daftykins> mortal1: no, just update all packages to the latest versions
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> its just a more intenstive upgrade of your current release
[23:21] <mortal1> lol, then why the heck did they call it dist-upgrade?
[23:21] <mortal1> that's scary
[23:21] <daftykins> to confuse you into coming here to ask :(
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> just so you would ask
[23:21] <daftykins> we support the never-ending cycle.
[23:21] <mortal1> lol
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> it does upgerade your disrto.. to the latest for the current release
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> do-release-upgrade - upgrades t the next release
[23:22] <mortal1> so it might update me to 12.04.x? (which is fine)
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> i think theres some xpecial things to do for upgradeing to those point releases. due to potential issues.
[23:22]  * mortal1 isn't even sure what version of 12.04 he's on
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> i saw a guide about it on askubuntu.com
[23:23] <mortal1> ok, thanks
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> i always use the latest release ;)
[23:24] <Vermoot> Hi again
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> Rubino123:  look for a 'notifyd' process running. i am on xubuntu and notice its called xfce-notifyd   ubuntu may do a similer name.
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> Rubino123:  killing that process may clean out the queue
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis: I found irc android app that does all, tab completes and  most what xchat does, AndChat
[23:24] <mortal1> so I have a script that runs every night at shutdown that does an apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[23:25] <Vermoot> I've got some files on my OSX Hard Drive (dual boot Ubuntu/OSX) that I'd like to rm, but I don't have permission to write, how can I get that ?
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  bene using andchat for like.. 2 years here. ;)
[23:25] <mortal1> should this be a dist-upgrade then?
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> mortal1:  be better to just use the built in updateing tools ;)
[23:25] <Notathinkpad> I have an ASUS EEE PC 1025C netbook. This netbook was released in 2012. Until very recently my battery used to last 3 and a half hours but now it lasts less than a hour.  The battery indicator  reports a remaining percentage of  32% just before it suddenly powers off without any warning. This is quite annoying and will in time damage my hard disk. Is there a GPLed app that will let me recalibrate my netbook's battery?
[23:25] <mortal1> Dr_Willis: I like running my update on shutdown
[23:26] <mortal1> saves me the hassle of dealing with it myself
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis: Heh, took me awhile to try a few to find if, you probably mentioned it when I asked you,lol.
[23:26] <Notathinkpad> BTW I run GNU/Linux Trisquel 6  which is based on Ubuntu 12.04
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  weechat has a android client now that connects to your linux box running weechat. but i found it crashed a lot ;) for now
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> Nothing4You:   technically we can only support 'official' ubuntu  variants in here.
[23:27] <dw-> Sometimes my graphics/mouse freeze, but things unfreeze when I do Ctrl-Alt-F1 then Ctrl-Alt-F7, but after that video (Default) doesn't work in VLC, and when I change ot OpenGl there's weird flickering and other errors.  Any ideas?  Ubuntu 13.04
[23:27] <Nothing4You> Dr_Willis: i agree
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> Nothing4You:  id suggest checking the forums and askubuntu.com theres a lot of threads on helping battery life
[23:27] <f00bar80> anyway to remove grub from MBR?
[23:27] <Nothing4You> Dr_Willis: i also suggest you to fix your tabcomplete though
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> heh
[23:28] <hanky> Older ATI-video cards and ubuntu, what a mess >_<
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> used to my irc client that would auto sort by last spoken person
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> f00bar80:  install a differnt bootloader.
[23:28] <Nothing4You> hehe
[23:28] <dw-> Is there a way to restart the default video pipe?
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> plus i shorten down the lengh of nicks for my phones so i only see like the first 5 characters
[23:28] <Nothing4You> lol
[23:29] <Nothing4You> probably not a good idea in a channel like this
[23:29] <Nothing4You> with 1702 people
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> when you irc on an android phone. you gotta make space somehow.
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> i gotta find that weechat script that reordered nick completion.  at least i think it was a weechat script.
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> im normally in here when thers a whole 4 people active
[23:30] <Nothing4You> wasn't weechat doing that by default?
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> dosent seem to do it by default here Nothing4You
[23:31] <f00bar80> Dr_Willis, is there no way to remove Grub from USB MBR?
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> it has smart filters to hide people/part/joins based on their last chatting. but if i do  n<tab>  lets see
[23:31] <hanky> Guys, did xorg 1.13 come with 12.10 or 12.4?
[23:31] <karab44> okay
[23:31] <Nothing4You> i thought it was - at least in the newer versions (i'm mainly arch user, just currently on windows due to dead linux drive)
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> could be im typing in to many letters befor the tab ;)
[23:31] <hanky> (is this is the place for stupid questions) :D
[23:31] <hanky> if*
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> hanky:  thats putting it mildly. ;P
[23:32] <karab44> I have raid_matrix nad it is visible like USB mounted. But I can not acces it before I click icon and then resources are accessible for me
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> brb. got a meeting to go meet.
[23:32] <karab44> How to make auto accessible these resources?
[23:33] <dw-> is there a way to restart video without restarting the whole desktop.. things get messed up when i do ctrl-alt-f1 and then ctrl-alt-f7
[23:33] <karab44> for example I have all VM's there and when I launch vbox it doesn't see them. I have to open hdd location and try again launching vbox
[23:33] <hanky> Been wanting to try ubuntu for a while, and when I finally did, seems like my radeon 4800 card wasnt supported. Talk about anti-climax. :D
[23:35] <deego> mortal1: hi.
[23:36] <deego> mortal1: re your question on #debian, see pm regarding dist-upgrade.
[23:41] <hanky> Is it at all recommended to downgrade xorg from 13 to 12?
[23:43] <SonikkuAmerica> hanky: It isn't really recommended to downgrade ANYTHING, unless (a) it's supported in the last LTS (in this case 12.04.x) and (b) you understand the risk of a mixed system
[23:43] <karab44> how can I know what parameters is my disk? file system and whatever info I need to mount
[23:43] <karab44> ?
[23:45] <mojtaba> Is there a way to convert pdf file to open office file format or microsoft word?
[23:45] <daftykins> you can pay adobe for their online service to do it
[23:46] <bekks> mojtaba: No.
[23:46] <mojtaba> daftykins: something in ubuntu?
[23:46] <hanky> SonikkuAmerica, Ok I kinda got that impression. To bad, it's the only way to get the drivers for my video card to work.
[23:46] <bekks> mojtaba: No.
[23:46] <SonikkuAmerica> hanky: Is your video card old?
[23:46] <deego> mojtaba: I have seen several such things over the years. This, for example, https://www.pdftoword.com/ , but none native to linux.
[23:47] <deego> mojtaba: Of coures, you can import it into libreoffice, (but that's just an image, and doesn't count.)
[23:47] <daftykins> mojtaba: no, online web service
[23:47] <bekks> mojtaba: A PDF is rendered, it does not contain any formats, etc. as used in other formats.
[23:48] <hanky> SonikkuAmerica, Not really. ATI radeon 4800. Works very well to the games I'm playing. It's just that AMD stoped caring about making drivers for 1.13. And that puts me (extra novice user) in a mess.
[23:48] <SonikkuAmerica> As in no fglrx for Xorg 1.13? Do you know if they're looking to support Mir/Wayland?
[23:48] <SonikkuAmerica> hanky: ^ >
[23:49] <intrik8one> hanks
[23:49] <karab44> ok I see
[23:50] <intrik8one> have a dell  studio 1745 any tips on getting the best from this poor video card
[23:52] <hanky> SonikkuAmerica, I don't really understand what you mean. Mir/Wayland is unknown terms to me.
[23:52] <hanky> :>
[23:53] <hanky> Seems like a mess for sure. Downgrading Xorg seems to be the common solution. Maybe just switching back to windows, haha.
[23:56] <SonikkuAmerica> hanky: Don't give up so easily!
[23:58] <SonikkuAmerica> hanky: Well, the thing is, Xorg will soon be history for most Ubuntu flavors (Xubuntu and Lubuntu won't be immediately changing).
[23:59] <Dr_Willis> i imagone it will be a while befor xorg is gone/
[23:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: IIRC we're planning on Mir being in Ubuntu proper for 13.10