| OvenWerks | zequence_: Yes if there are no packages to deal with that is an error and the user should be told so. | 00:14 |
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| OvenWerks | It would be easy to make installed packages already installed show as selected. I might also replace the description text with "already installed" Or preface the description with "Installed - " | 00:16 |
| OvenWerks | To add remove, take the original list and subtract the install list to make a remove list. | 00:18 |
| OvenWerks | very quickly we start to run into the limits that zenity has. Then we have to add more libraries. The whole thing becomes a much bigger project. We want it to be able to run on any DE without adding lots of stuff. I am alsomost | 00:22 |
| OvenWerks | almost... thinking it would be better to use tcl/tk or perl/tk | 00:23 |
| OvenWerks | I think tk pulls tcl anyway. | 00:23 |
| OvenWerks | ubiquity has some code that loads gtk or kde/qtish stuff depending on what it finds. | 00:26 |
| OvenWerks | Do we want to remove packages at the same time as install? Could we have two select screens one for install and one for remove? | 00:31 |
| OvenWerks | There are lots of options. Finding the slimmest one that is still does all we want is best. | 00:33 |
| zequence_ | OvenWerks: I think it's enough if the installed packages are just toggled. And, it's just about adding an apt-get remove option to items in the list that have been changed to remove since initial read | 00:38 |
| zequence_ | However clear that was.. :P | 00:38 |
| OvenWerks | only if they are already installed :) | 00:39 |
| zequence_ | The slimmes option in my view would be just to add an uninstall function for packages that were set to be removed | 00:39 |
| zequence_ | The toggles are self-explanatory | 00:40 |
| OvenWerks | should we ask the user to confirm removal? | 00:40 |
| zequence_ | Just confirm changes | 00:40 |
| zequence_ | And perhaps show a list of packages set to be installed, and the set of packages to be removed | 00:40 |
| OvenWerks | ok. | 00:41 |
| OvenWerks | Before I get there, I will be changing the apt-get running from a run as pipe to a child process so I can get all output and give inputn if needed. | 00:42 |
| OvenWerks | Right now all I have is STDOUT, I would like STDERR for sure and maybe STDIN as well | 00:43 |
| zequence_ | Wonder if we could tag some packages with ubuntustudio | 00:45 |
| zequence_ | That would make it easier to automate a lot of stuff | 00:45 |
| OvenWerks | tag? | 00:46 |
| zequence_ | Application category | 00:46 |
| zequence_ | I'm thinking another feature in the future for the installer - and then zenity might not work anymore, is to make it a bit like what falktx did for one of his apps | 00:47 |
| zequence_ | ..show what each application can do | 00:47 |
| zequence_ | what they support | 00:47 |
| zequence_ | Why I don't like that idea though, is because it requires so much work from our side, in maintenance | 00:48 |
| OvenWerks | I think just getting to know apt and its tools might make automation easier too. | 00:48 |
| zequence_ | would be better in fact if there was a standard for some type of categorization in Debian packaging, maybe Linux packaging, that would save us that work. We'd just provide a gui with info about the packages | 00:48 |
| OvenWerks | USC? | 00:49 |
| zequence_ | Like, which audio apps support jack - as an example | 00:49 |
| OvenWerks | :) | 00:49 |
| zequence_ | Well, if it would do that, then sure | 00:49 |
| zequence_ | or any of the package managers | 00:49 |
| zequence_ | in which case, we wouldn't need ubuntustudio-installer in the first place | 00:50 |
| OvenWerks | The problem with that is audicity supports jack... very badly | 00:50 |
| zequence_ | doesn't matter how well it supports jack | 00:50 |
| zequence_ | it's a boolean question | 00:50 |
| zequence_ | does it, or does it not? | 00:50 |
| OvenWerks | From POV not | 00:51 |
| OvenWerks | My POV | 00:51 |
| zequence_ | POV is not a technical aspect | 00:51 |
| OvenWerks | but on paper it does | 00:51 |
| zequence_ | If people are unhappy, they should report bugs | 00:51 |
| zequence_ | We don't need to bend the truth for them | 00:52 |
| OvenWerks | The jack support in audacity is so bad in some uses as to be easier to use through pulse | 00:52 |
| zequence_ | I really don't see the relevance of how well Audacity supports jack for how to describe the technical features of an application | 00:53 |
| OvenWerks | The good thing is that doesn't matter, because audacity's best use doesn't need jack | 00:53 |
| cub | Good morning, I | 06:49 |
| cub | am going to be in a conference for two days now so I'll try to run some test cases in parallell..:) | 06:49 |
| smartboyhw | Hmm, we got all results ready.... | 08:18 |
| cub_ | Hi smartboyhw, while running the test case for live session, I wonder about the fourth step: | 09:01 |
| cub_ | Use and execute the default applications found for the desktop enviroment being run. All applications should function without error | 09:02 |
| cub_ | Which is our "default applications"? | 09:02 |
| smartboyhw | cub_, well, what kind of "error" did you encounter into? | 09:02 |
| smartboyhw | cub_: Browser, audio, blah blah blah | 09:02 |
| cub_ | I haven't started yet. I just wonder if I should open EVERY application in the menus | 09:03 |
| smartboyhw | cub, random check i think | 09:05 |
| smartboyhw | :P | 09:05 |
| cub_ | hehe ok | 09:14 |
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| OvenWerks | smartboyhw: is 32bit marked ready too? | 13:16 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerks, yes | 13:17 |
| OvenWerks | I haven't gone looking this morning... need coffee | 13:17 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerks, do you have the effort to re-test the i386 image? It looks like quite a number of fixes went in ubiquity...... | 14:17 |
| madeinkobaia | Hi all : ) | 14:56 |
| smartboyhw | Hello madeinkobaia :)P | 14:57 |
| madeinkobaia | :) What's up smartboyhw | 14:57 |
| smartboyhw | madeinkobaia, waiting for Len's reply | 14:57 |
| madeinkobaia | \o/ | 14:58 |
| smartboyhw | madeinkobaia, um, it might not be a \o/ | 14:58 |
| madeinkobaia | smartboyhw: for sure, its a paradoxical use of an emoticon (just kiddind ;p ) | 15:02 |
| smartboyhw | madeinkobaia, :P | 15:02 |
| madeinkobaia | O:-) | 15:03 |
| smartboyhw | OvenWerks, no need to ask you I think, infinity is doing a MASS respin. | 15:05 |
| smartboyhw | i.e. everything gets respun | 15:06 |
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| smartboyhw | OvenWerks, please make sure you DO test the respinnned images, I will test the respinned image first thing tomorrow when I came back from school | 15:59 |
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