[00:14] zequence_: Yes if there are no packages to deal with that is an error and the user should be told so. [00:16] It would be easy to make installed packages already installed show as selected. I might also replace the description text with "already installed" Or preface the description with "Installed - " [00:18] To add remove, take the original list and subtract the install list to make a remove list. [00:22] very quickly we start to run into the limits that zenity has. Then we have to add more libraries. The whole thing becomes a much bigger project. We want it to be able to run on any DE without adding lots of stuff. I am alsomost [00:23] almost... thinking it would be better to use tcl/tk or perl/tk [00:23] I think tk pulls tcl anyway. [00:26] ubiquity has some code that loads gtk or kde/qtish stuff depending on what it finds. [00:31] Do we want to remove packages at the same time as install? Could we have two select screens one for install and one for remove? [00:33] There are lots of options. Finding the slimmest one that is still does all we want is best. [00:38] OvenWerks: I think it's enough if the installed packages are just toggled. And, it's just about adding an apt-get remove option to items in the list that have been changed to remove since initial read [00:38] However clear that was.. :P [00:39] only if they are already installed :) [00:39] The slimmes option in my view would be just to add an uninstall function for packages that were set to be removed [00:40] The toggles are self-explanatory [00:40] should we ask the user to confirm removal? [00:40] Just confirm changes [00:40] And perhaps show a list of packages set to be installed, and the set of packages to be removed [00:41] ok. [00:42] Before I get there, I will be changing the apt-get running from a run as pipe to a child process so I can get all output and give inputn if needed. [00:43] Right now all I have is STDOUT, I would like STDERR for sure and maybe STDIN as well [00:45] Wonder if we could tag some packages with ubuntustudio [00:45] That would make it easier to automate a lot of stuff [00:46] tag? [00:46] Application category [00:47] I'm thinking another feature in the future for the installer - and then zenity might not work anymore, is to make it a bit like what falktx did for one of his apps [00:47] ..show what each application can do [00:47] what they support [00:48] Why I don't like that idea though, is because it requires so much work from our side, in maintenance [00:48] I think just getting to know apt and its tools might make automation easier too. [00:48] would be better in fact if there was a standard for some type of categorization in Debian packaging, maybe Linux packaging, that would save us that work. We'd just provide a gui with info about the packages [00:49] USC? [00:49] Like, which audio apps support jack - as an example [00:49] :) [00:49] Well, if it would do that, then sure [00:49] or any of the package managers [00:50] in which case, we wouldn't need ubuntustudio-installer in the first place [00:50] The problem with that is audicity supports jack... very badly [00:50] doesn't matter how well it supports jack [00:50] it's a boolean question [00:50] does it, or does it not? [00:51] From POV not [00:51] My POV [00:51] POV is not a technical aspect [00:51] but on paper it does [00:51] If people are unhappy, they should report bugs [00:52] We don't need to bend the truth for them [00:52] The jack support in audacity is so bad in some uses as to be easier to use through pulse [00:53] I really don't see the relevance of how well Audacity supports jack for how to describe the technical features of an application [00:53] The good thing is that doesn't matter, because audacity's best use doesn't need jack [06:49] Good morning, I [06:49] am going to be in a conference for two days now so I'll try to run some test cases in parallell..:) [08:18] Hmm, we got all results ready.... [09:01] Hi smartboyhw, while running the test case for live session, I wonder about the fourth step: [09:02] Use and execute the default applications found for the desktop enviroment being run. All applications should function without error [09:02] Which is our "default applications"? [09:02] cub_, well, what kind of "error" did you encounter into? [09:02] cub_: Browser, audio, blah blah blah [09:03] I haven't started yet. I just wonder if I should open EVERY application in the menus [09:05] cub, random check i think [09:05] :P [09:14] hehe ok === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [13:16] smartboyhw: is 32bit marked ready too? [13:17] OvenWerks, yes [13:17] I haven't gone looking this morning... need coffee [14:17] OvenWerks, do you have the effort to re-test the i386 image? It looks like quite a number of fixes went in ubiquity...... [14:56] Hi all : ) [14:57] Hello madeinkobaia :)P [14:57] :) What's up smartboyhw [14:57] madeinkobaia, waiting for Len's reply [14:58] \o/ [14:58] madeinkobaia, um, it might not be a \o/ [15:02] smartboyhw: for sure, its a paradoxical use of an emoticon (just kiddind ;p ) [15:02] madeinkobaia, :P [15:03] O:-) [15:05] OvenWerks, no need to ask you I think, infinity is doing a MASS respin. [15:06] i.e. everything gets respun === HisaoNakai_ is now known as HisaoNakai [15:59] OvenWerks, please make sure you DO test the respinnned images, I will test the respinned image first thing tomorrow when I came back from school