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thomirobru: are you able to paste me the link where I can follow that test run please? is it this? http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/autopilot-saucy-daily_release/00:06
robruthomi, not much to see yet: http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/cu2d-qa-saucy-2.1build/34/console00:07
thomirobru: awesome, I just wanted to catch it when it ended00:08
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thomirobru: fginther: this job looks stuck to me? http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/autopilot-saucy-daily_release/2126/01:17
thomiI'm still waiting for that qa stack run to end01:17
robruthomi, i see a test failure: http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/autopilot-saucy-daily_release/label=autopilot-intel/2125/testReport/junit/unity.tests.test_panel/PanelKeyNavigationTests/test_panel_indicators_key_navigation_prev_works_Single_Monitor_/01:18
thomirobru: but that's the unity tests, I'm after the autopilot tests01:18
robruthomi, dunno then. it could be stalled. there's been lots of infrastructure issues lately, but I dunno many details. maybe didrocks would be better to answer that question? he'll be on in a few hours01:31
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thomiyeah, I guess I'01:33
thomill wait01:33
thomioops01:33
thomithanks for your help anyway01:33
didrocksMirv: do you have some free slots?06:03
didrocksgood morning btw ;)06:04
Mirvdidrocks: morning! not really right now, I've still not been able to start what I suppoed to start with 2h ago because I was debugging sdk problems (which turned out not to probably be sdk problems)06:06
didrocksMirv: ok, good luck then!06:06
Mirvcu2d would also have some bugs to file, but I'll let it run the next tick first06:06
didrocksok06:06
Mirvlibfriends was hanging cu2d since last evening, and will probably do that again so I'll keep an eye on that06:06
didrocksMirv: robru didn't kill it?06:07
didrocksMirv: I explicitely asked him to kill it06:07
Mirvdidrocks: no, it was still running06:07
didrocksok, let's remove libfriends then06:07
didrocksfrom the config06:07
didrocksMirv: we can't have timeout on building because some builds can lag a lot (not the case recently, was the case in the past)06:07
Mirvok06:07
Mirvthat's true06:07
didrocksrobru: removing libfriends, please fix the buildd issue I pointed you at yesterday (and see spreadsheet)06:08
Mirvdidrocks: ah, correction, too many things this morning. it was actually that intel + nvidia jenkins slaves had died..06:08
didrocksMirv: both? again? :/06:08
Mirvdidrocks: and that was since yesterday evening, and then only after that libfriends hung06:09
Mirvdidrocks: could we get QA team to somehow have autokicker/monitor/alerting on that?06:09
didrocksMirv: let's raise it in this morning call06:09
didrocksMirv: libfriends removal deployed06:10
Mirvdidrocks: I just noticed, thanks06:10
didrocksMirv: do not hesitate to do that next time btw ;)06:11
didrocks(as long it's logged somewhere like in the spreadsheet)06:11
Mirvright..06:11
viladidrocks, Mirv: Not fully awake yet but a bit of explanation would help ? (Context, I'm ramping up with how the ci engine works so speak slowly ;)06:17
vilaintel + nvidia jenkins slaves ? slave names ?06:17
didrocksvila: the 2 slaves being the test machines06:17
didrocksit happens quite often that we have a kernel panic06:18
didrocksand so the machine is stuck06:18
didrocksthe jenkins node don't work06:18
didrocksso we can't contact them06:18
vilakenerl panic seen in the jenkins logs or requiring shell access ?06:18
didrocksvila: seen in logs (jibel most of the time get those)06:18
didrocksbut before, the machines needs to be rebooted06:18
didrockselectrically06:18
didrocksthrough the CDU06:19
vilaouch06:19
didrocksso we would need something monitoring those slaves06:19
vilayup06:19
didrocksand if they don't answer for 5 minutes, reboot electrically06:19
vilaprobably not jenkins itself but yeah06:19
didrocksand ensuring the jenkins slave started06:19
didrocksyeah06:19
* vila nods06:19
didrocksvila: mind adding that to the TODO? ;)06:19
didrocksas this is blocking everything when it happens and nobody monitors06:19
* vila 's.head.TODO++06:20
didrocks(everytime we report to the kernel team, it's "have you tried latest kernel update?")06:20
didrocksthanks06:20
viladidrocks: I'm using this channel log as a huge TODO for now :-/06:20
didrocksheh06:20
vila"libfriends removal deployed" how ? What does it mean ?06:21
viladidrocks, Mirv: a commit reference will help me understand how the config work ;)06:22
didrocksvila: latest commit on lp:cupstream2distro-config06:22
vilahttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cupstream2distro-maintainers/cupstream2distro-config/trunk/revision/814?start_revid=81406:24
vilaok ,that's the how06:24
vilawhat does it trigger/stop to trigger ?06:24
didrocksit doesn't build anymore libfriends06:24
didrocksin the daily release machinery06:25
didrocks(basically no prepare-libfriends jobs)06:25
vilaso the last good version is used instead ?06:25
didrocksright06:25
vila\o/06:25
vilawhich version is that then ? ppa/proposed/archive whichever comes first ?06:26
didrockswhicherver comes first06:27
didrocksthe highest version06:27
vilagreat06:27
vilaand then you trigger a stack build again ?06:27
didrockswell, it's triggered every 4 hours06:27
didrocksand we just had a tick06:27
didrocksso should be fine06:27
vilahaaa, the tick!06:27
vilaany wau to trigger that manually or will that result in a huge mess ?06:28
vila*way06:28
didrockswe can, but not needed in that case06:28
vilaok06:28
didrocksbut when you trigger manually you need to know what's the current dep are06:28
vilaelaborate ?06:28
didrocksif you have indicators building06:29
didrocksand you trigger unity06:29
didrocksmaybe you are building against half the new indicators06:29
didrocksand half the old ones06:29
vilaoh right, bad idea06:29
didrocksso you don't know which state you are having06:29
vilaany way to abort all in flight builds ? or some of them ?06:29
didrocksmanually in launchpad06:30
vilaor is that too tricky/unreliable ?06:30
didrocksbut again, you are in an unknown state06:30
vilain lp ???06:30
didrocksas you maybe have binaries published06:30
didrocksyeah06:30
vilaoh, the builds happen in lp after you dput to some ppa ?06:30
didrocks?06:31
didrocksthat's how the system work06:31
didrocksor I don't understand the question? ;)06:31
vilaI'm learning so I may miss some obvious things ;)06:31
didrockslook at my presentation06:31
didrocksthe prepare dput to a ppa06:31
didrocksthen, we monitor the build into that ppa06:31
vilahttps://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentation/d/1-1qB0GamQhdvCHFa49fe6x2emqSe0e_LNnITZRiZLuE/edit#slide=id.gf421d6b8_1107 ?06:34
didrocksvila: right06:34
vilahow do you find the the lp build url ?06:35
jibeldidrocks, vila retoaded could add a nagios check and sned a fence_cdu command if the mahcine doesn't respond after a timeout06:40
jibeldidrocks, 10min is safer than 5 because the mahcines are rebooted every day and if there is an fsck it can take a while06:41
vilajibel: I understand what you mean but I have no idea on how to make it real :) Does retoaded know enough about that to turn it into a working solution ?06:41
jibeland in this case there is a risk of boot loop06:41
jibelvila, yes he knows everything06:41
didrocksjibel: yeah, making sense :)06:41
didrocksvila: why do you need it? the build monitors it06:42
vilajibel: great, will check with him then06:42
didrocksit only print the launchpad build url in case of failure06:42
didrocksif you want to play a little bit, look at the mir stack, mir failed on i38606:42
viladidrocks: I don't  need it *now*, I'm trying to understand what I will do the day I need it ;)06:42
didrocksvila: really, try poking around in the UI first06:43
vilame or anybody with the required access, whatever06:43
didrocksas it seems it's blurry for you ;)06:43
didrockswith the presentation on the other side06:43
didrocksI think it will make sense06:43
vilaok, will try, but if I feel I'm blindly poking around I will come back for more hand holding ;)06:44
didrocksvila: if you don't remember my presentation you should read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease (and the links under More specific topic)06:45
viladidrocks: oh, I do remember it, but that doesn't mean I understood it enough ;)06:45
viladidrocks: starting at http://s-jenkins:8080/view/Mir/job/mir-android-saucy-i386-build/2144/console ?06:53
vilafailed to open trace file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/ubuntu/.bzr.log'06:53
vilais a Bad Thing !06:53
viladidrocks: may be unrelated but '1 conflicts encountered.06:55
vilabzr: ERROR: Conflicts from merge' is obscure, is this a common failure ?06:55
didrocksvila: this is not daily release06:55
didrocksvila: I don't know that one06:55
didrocksyou have a cu2d view06:55
didrocksdaily releases are there06:55
vilacrap, wrong jenkins server ?06:55
didrocksto view the chained jobs, you should use the private instance06:55
didrocks110.97.0.1:808006:55
didrocks10*06:56
vilamy kingdom for a dns entry !06:57
vilahmm http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/ 3 reds 2 greys, really ? grey as disabled ? Too bad it so looked liked stack directory names :-/07:01
vilahttp://10.97.0.1:8080/view/mir/job/cu2d-mir-saucy/14/ is more on track ?07:01
vilathen http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/cu2d-mir-saucy-2.1build/13/console07:02
vilathen https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+build/5050734 ?07:02
didrocksvila: right07:03
vila\o/07:03
vilaa bit weird that it ends up in a failed compilation... could it be that the dev never saw that failure because some update happened after he successfully compiled or are the builds stricter ?07:04
didrocksvila: doesn't happen on other archs07:04
vilahmm07:05
vilabut it's not an infrastructure issue right ?07:05
didrocksno07:05
vilajust something the dev could't reproduce locally so a valid output from the ci engine right ?07:05
didrockseverything is valid, I pinged upstream, they just investigate07:06
vila... from there they fix it however they see fit, land on whatever package's trunk in the mir stack and wait for the next tick ?07:08
didrocksor we will relaunch it as it's very urgent07:08
didrocksand block other stacks07:08
vilaoooooook07:08
vilaenough food for thought during shave/shower ;)07:09
viladidrocks: thanks a ton, sorry for all the silly questions ;)07:09
didrocksno worry ;)07:10
Mirvdidrocks: ok now platform is stalled because it waits for mir https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+build/505081207:20
Mirvcanceling to kick it further07:20
loolmorning guys07:21
looldidrocks: two questions07:21
viladidrocks: in http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/mir/job/cu2d-mir-saucy/, where is that '(blocking)' coming from for the subprojects ?07:21
looldidrocks: first, how's the mir development/experimental branch published?07:21
didrocksMirv: yeah, alf is looking at it, you can kill both platform and unity8 stack if you want07:21
Mirvright07:21
looldidrocks: that is, are we helping land changes from the dev branch of mir into some PPA, or is that some other setup than cu2d?07:21
didrockslool: there is no more experimental branch for Mir07:22
vilaMirv: care to paste the urls you use to kill ?07:22
didrocksthere is a mode on cu2d for that, a pity you were not at the Boston sprint when I presented it07:22
looldidrocks: second, I didn't figure out parameters to build just one package out of a stack, or everything but one package; I looked at the configured scripts, but didn't see any input vars, so I guess you might be driving these manually, with the shell?07:22
didrockslool: can be done using the shell command, but as well, you have REBUILD_ONLY07:23
didrocksit's a space separated values of packages07:23
looldidrocks: I mean ~mir-team/mir/development-branch07:23
didrockslool: I don't know about that branch, so no, we don't do anything special with it07:23
looldidrocks: so I have to set REBUILD_ONLY in the top job, the master control job for a stack, if I wand this to work, correct?07:23
didrocksright07:24
loolok cool07:24
didrocksit will take the previous state07:24
didrocksbut only rebuild those07:24
didrocks(if they have things to release)07:24
loolawesome07:24
didrocksyou have FORCE_REBUILD parameter07:24
didrocksto tell "please, even if there is nothing new to release, rebuild it"07:24
didrocks(it will add a new changelog entry with "manual build forced"07:24
didrocksthere are also the skip dest check parameters, but we can discuss that later on07:25
viladidrocks, Mirv: the '(see spreadsheet)' in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cupstream2distro-maintainers/cupstream2distro-config/trunk/revision/814?start_revid=814 refers to line 5 in https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuDk72Lpx8U5dHFtUmlPOUtCRk8zR2dtaEpIbUVhMmc#gid=3 'Stack status' right ?07:25
didrocksvila: no, current tab, last item07:25
Mirvvila: I use the red 'x':s on the stack's build + check subjob pages07:26
Mirvvila: when logged in to the internal jenkins instance07:26
viladidrocks: I see07:28
vilaMirv: page url ?07:28
vilagrr was not logged in couldn't see any running/pending jobs07:29
didrocksMirv: don't worry about the unity8 failures07:33
didrocksMirv: it's because of unity-mir not being installable07:33
didrocksbecause of mir on i386 not producing the -dev07:33
didrocksand the domino world starts!07:33
vila'ping upstream' in '<didrocks> everything is valid, I pinged upstream, they just investigate' ~== mail allan.lesage@canonical.com since he's 'contact_email' for libfriends ?07:35
didrocksvila: no, pinging #ubuntu-mir on IRC07:35
didrocksemails is too slow07:35
didrocksand we are not talking about friends07:36
didrocksbut Mir here07:36
vilaok, grep 'mir' stacks/saucy/friends.cfg is empty, how do you know it's mir related ? expertise ?07:38
Mirvvila: http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Saucy/view/Platform/ - from there 2.1build and 2.2check. on those pages.07:38
vilaMirv: damn, why are they all grey in jenkins ? I thought grey meant 'disabled' :-/07:41
vilais this aborted instead and bubbles up from aborted build to parent jobs ?07:43
vila*s/parent jobs/ parents jobs or views/07:45
Mirvvila: they're grey because they were aborted on this tick07:54
Mirvvila: yep07:54
viladidrocks: regarding 'it will add a new changelog entry with "manual build forced"', care to point me an url where the changelog is displayed when you come to it ? IIRC, that was one use case were the --multimaint dch fix was required or two entries for were created07:55
vilaMirv: thanks ! Makes far more sense this way ! Pfew07:55
Mirvvila: I also aborted unity already before since because of some previous delays this tick wouldn't have started on time otherwise (unity autopilot tests take the longest, about 1h 45min)07:55
didrocksvila: not now, I'm trying to unblocking production, those are corner cases that don't happen everyday (extra functionality)07:55
didrocksvila: not sure it will be a good use of your time as well ;)07:55
viladidrocks: it should be fixed and display a single entry, just want to look if I'm right. If I'm wrong, so be it ;)07:56
didrocksin fact 2 entries07:56
didrocksthe "manual build forced"07:56
didrocks+ "latest snapshot from rev xxx"07:56
didrocks(the last one is always present)07:56
didrocksvila: you do have examples in the testssuite IIRC07:57
viladidrocks: ok, so there is a corner case I don't understand yet. Good, pushed on stack.07:57
viladidrocks: ha, vila.TODO++ ^07:57
didrocksogra_: hey! how was the image yesterday evening? build went fine?08:08
ogra_didrocks, yes, but the gallery app test on mako failed badly and had to be restarted08:08
didrockssecond run seems better08:08
ogra_i didnt want to wait anymore at 1am so its not released yet08:08
didrocksyeah ;)08:08
Mirvvila: FYI pressing red 'x' on http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Saucy/view/Unity8/job/cu2d-unity8-saucy-2.2check/08:09
ogra_will do so once someone to announce at avengers is around08:09
didrocksnotes-app regressed?08:09
ogra_i wouldnt see how it had no update08:10
didrockssdk was updated, right?08:10
* didrocks looks for ogra's page08:10
ogra_http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/08:10
vilaMirv: thanks, so here the reason is in https://launchpadlibrarian.net/151505876/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-armhf.unity8_7.81.3%2B13.10.20130926-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz right ?08:11
vilaMirv: as well as in https://launchpadlibrarian.net/151506228/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-amd64.unity8_7.81.3%2B13.10.20130926-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz08:11
asacdidrocks: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20130925.1.changes08:11
asacthere are ui-toolkit changes in that one08:11
ogra_ah08:11
didrocksasac: yeah08:11
didrocksso possibly toolkit regressed those notes-app08:11
asacmaybe we need jibels page also project what a release changelog would look like against last current08:12
asac:)08:12
didrocksMirv: mind poking the sdk guys with that failing tests?08:12
Mirvvila: true, and handling missing dependencies is not detected at the moment well, it just waits building08:12
didrocksMirv: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_ro/4443/notes-app-autopilot/08:12
asacdidrocks: notes app has traditionally been flaky08:12
asachave you checked with psivaa if he retried?08:12
asacpsivaa: ^^08:12
asachttp://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_ro/4443/08:12
Mirvdidrocks: I actually did in the morning, and they analyzed it and came into conclusion that it's not toolkit but everything related to 'tapping' so maybe more low-level08:13
Mirvdidrocks: I then also noticed that in the landing plan it says ui-toolkit landed in 65, while the regressions started in 6408:13
Mirvso maybe mir upgrade then?08:13
asachttp://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_ro/4441/ notes app was still ok on the .1 build08:13
vilaMirv: thanks, vila.sanity++, sanity is good, we want moar ;)08:13
asaci really believe its a retry thing08:13
asacpsivaa: ^^ :)08:13
didrocksMirv: hum, right08:14
Mirvasac: not on maguro though08:14
didrocksor maybe just flackiness, I don't see apart from the lxc config I don't know about, what can impact on 6508:14
Mirvand there's rssreader failure on both starting from 64, plus calendar failure on maguro starting from 6408:14
popeyogra_: yo08:15
popeyogra_: we releasing08:15
popey?08:15
ogra_popey, hey, yeah08:15
ogra_gimme a sec08:15
popeykk08:15
ogra_k, should be publishing08:17
popeyi see it already on my device08:17
popey65 right?08:17
popeyand it's auto-downloaded already08:17
popeyman this is great!08:17
asacwhat are you looking for?08:18
ogra_popey, right, 25.2/65 was released08:19
seb128hey08:20
didrockshey seb12808:20
didrockssil2100: hey, around? feeling better today?08:20
seb128can someone add system-settings to the landing board? or do I need to wait on Jason to be up at my end of day,08:20
seb128?08:20
seb128didrocks, hey ;-)08:20
ogra_we take bribes08:21
seb128lol08:21
asacseb128:  you are supposed to have acceess so you can add your own asks08:21
asacseb128: i shared it with you now08:21
seb128asac, I didn't, let me try again08:21
sil2100didrocks: morning, still feeling bad, but not bad enough for coding ;)08:21
didrockssil2100: I think we'll need you for some landing today ;)08:21
looldidrocks: mir >> it's great to see that there are as many changes in code as in tests, but oh $DEITY the amount of code changes  :-)  can't review the ABI changes I'm afraid08:21
seb128asac, that works now, thanks! ;-)08:22
looldidrocks: so how do you handle the package renames exactly?  did you preNEW them already?08:22
sil2100didrocks: please feel free to add me to some tasks, and I'll do those whenever possible ;)08:22
didrockslool: package rename? are you on the multimedia stuff?08:22
looldidrocks: no, mir08:22
vilaoh please someone ! What does preNEW mean ???08:22
didrockssil2100: please come to the HO meeting08:22
loollibmirserver3 -> libmirserver408:22
didrockslool: wait for the meeting, will be easier ;)08:22
didrocksright now, I'm trying to unblock Mir FTBFS08:23
* lool checks PPA08:23
* lool checks #ubuntu-mir08:24
viladidrocks, lool: What does preNEW mean ?08:24
popeyogra_: asac mail sent08:24
vilait's an irritating blind spot ;)08:24
asacpopey: about what?08:24
popey6508:24
asacwhy do we release it with regressions?08:24
asacogra_: didrocks: ^?08:25
didrocksyeah, we shouldn't as there is those apps test failing08:25
popeygah08:25
asacwe dont release with regressions08:25
didrocks(which mail was sent?)08:25
ogra_asac, which regressions ?08:25
asacnotes app08:25
didrockspopey: did you try the notes app AP tests manually?08:25
popeyno.08:25
didrocksare they flacky tests or reproducible issues?08:25
asacright08:25
didrockscan you try that please?08:25
asacwe cant continue until we know08:25
didrocksso that we can assess08:25
ogra_gah, sorry08:26
sil2100vila: preNEW is basically a 'review' that an archive admin needs to do of a new package, ending with a thumbs up from that admin08:26
popeyrunning now08:27
loolvila: it's because the automated archive copying we're doing bypasses the normal processes08:27
loolvila: so when we have new binary or source packages, some archive admin should review them before they get automatically in08:27
vilalool, sil2100: thanks ! archive or -proposed ?08:28
loolvila: they get into proposed08:29
loolbut not to binary new08:29
loolIIRC08:29
vilalool: thanks, one blind spot down, there are N blin spots on the wall... Hey ho !08:29
loolvila: normally, new sources and new binaries uploaded by a developer or a human get stuck into the archive NEW queue08:29
loolbut IIRC, the way we're copying them it bypasses binary NEW08:30
vilalool: archive admin == ubuntu dev ?08:30
loolno08:30
loolarchive admin is like an über-elite secret club of people that can rm -rf launchpad08:30
loolj/k08:30
psivaaasac: sorry just saw the message :), notes is a consistent failure08:30
asacright08:31
asacogra_: so please try to remove the 56 build from release channel08:31
loolvila: essentially a set of people with deep understanding of how archive works, and with access to special host to do maintenance tasks such as accepting packages, creating new releases etc.08:31
vilalool: hmm, so, infinity, didrocks, yourself ?08:31
vilalool: ok, names please ;)08:31
loolI'm not archive admin08:31
loolhttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive08:31
vilapuuurfect08:32
asacpsivaa: we have 3 failures on mako08:32
asacpsivaa: we have 1 failyre on maguro... doesnt sound very consitant08:32
didrocksasac: joining?08:32
ogra_asac, i'm a bit scared that everything explodes then08:32
vilalool: much much clearer :)08:32
asacogra_: well. we have to learn08:32
asaclets talk in a second08:32
psivaaasac: yea, i was talking about the info from last night.. let me retry :)08:32
ogra_yeah08:32
vilalool: there are a few names I should be able to bride there ;)08:32
loolvila: it's kind of orthogonal to developer membership, since these are different tasks, but I guess the levels of trust and understanding of archive / packages goes up from MOTU, to core dev to archive admin08:33
vilalool: received loud and clear, thanks ;)08:33
popeyasac: ogra_ all the tests that failed on jenkins, succeeded on my device locally08:33
ogra_yeah the notes app ones are really random08:34
ogra_not the same across the devices08:34
loolvila: can you do something about upstream merges not being processed for music-app?08:35
loolvila: https://code.launchpad.net/~lool/music-app/singleton/+merge/18758308:35
cjwatsonlool: not quite right - they still land in NEW, although a bit differently (there are some problems, but I don't think those problems are why preNEW exists)08:36
asacpopey: did all tests succeed?08:36
cjwatsonlool: AIUI the problem is that if cu2d copies something then the workflow expects that it will appear in the archive before *too* long, and things can get a bit confused if it sits there for ages08:37
cjwatsonlool: so preNEW is to try to make sure that the actual NEW check doesn't take too long08:37
popeyasac: ran it 3 times, same result each time http://paste.ubuntu.com/6157852/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6157871/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6157875/08:37
cjwatsonlool: (also NEW for copies is harder to review than it ought to be - I have some LP bugs to fix)08:37
loolok08:37
vilalool: not now as I would have to dig to find where somthing can be triggered without knowing if I will have to trigger so -> vila.TODO++ ^08:38
vilameh08:38
cjwatsonvila: ~ubuntu-archive would be a strict subset of ~ubuntu-core-dev if we hadn't been forced to make it otherwise by past management08:38
popeyasac: (and different from jenkins)08:38
cjwatsonvila: hopefully we'll get back to that again though08:38
vilalool: not now as I would have to dig to find where something can be triggered without knowing if I will have the right access to trigger so -> vila.TODO++ ^08:38
asacpopey: you have to unlock a screen08:38
cjwatsonhey, actually, maybe it is a subset again now08:38
popeyasac: i did08:38
cjwatson(aside from the robot)08:38
loolcan we make the robot a core dev?08:39
loolwould help a lot08:39
vilacjwatson: thanks, also lool's 'kind of orthogonal to developer membership' made sense to me08:39
cjwatsonlool: why?08:39
loolquite obviously robots are more productive than humans08:39
cjwatson:-)08:39
loolthey complain less08:39
loolwork crazy hours^W^W^W actually we do that08:39
vila:-D08:40
* vila goes dark a bit to concentrate on some stuff08:40
popeyasac: and again... same http://paste.ubuntu.com/6157890/08:41
asacpopey: do you manually unlock the screen?08:41
asacbefore?08:41
asacyou need to do that for apps08:41
asaccheck https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing#Testing_your_Ubuntu_Touch_Code_before_submission08:42
popeyyes08:42
asacbut guess u know08:42
popeyhence 09:38:55 < popey> asac: i did08:42
asacsry08:42
popeynp ☻08:42
dpmhi psivaa, it seems that the Jenkins jobs for core apps are not running again. Could you give us a hand reactivating them? Here's one example of a MP where Jenkins is not running https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/fix-spacing-issues/+merge/18765908:45
asacpopey: try rebooting and start from fresh state :)08:45
asacgive us a 100% :)08:45
popeyasac: hah, okay ☻08:45
psivaadpm: let me take a look08:45
dpmthanks :)08:46
popeyasac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6157927/ different this time ☹08:55
psivaadpm: it looks like the jenkins instance itself is down (http://91.189.93.70:8080/). we need retoaded or fginther for that.08:56
psivaa:(08:56
dpmpsivaa, ok, will have to wait until they come online, then. Thanks for your help08:57
psivaadpm: i'll dig in in the mean time if i could  restart that jenkinsm but i doubt if i'll be able to08:58
psivaaasac: notes app have been tried 4 times now on mako - 2,3,2,2 failures on maguro 1,1,2,1 failures08:58
popeyasac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6157941/ can't get a 100% pass08:58
dpmpsivaa, perhaps someone on #is could?08:58
psivaadpm: good point :)08:58
psivaadpm: you might have seen the response from the is about that in #is09:07
dpmpsivaa, yes, thanks for following that up. Would it be possible to give access to the Jenkins instance to someone that's not only in US-like time? It would help us with not having to wait until fginther comes online09:10
psivaadpm: agreed, i have the access to jenkins instance but not to the host.. requesting one now09:10
dpmexcellent, thanks!09:11
ogra_grmbl, my mako is dead09:16
dpmhi asac, I've got a MP enabling translations for the rss reader app. I've had to rename some files and fix some paths from ubuntu-rssreader-app to rssreader-app, and while at it, I renamed the package too, something pmcgowan asked us to do for all core apps a while ago anyway, but that has been a low priority. This will mean coordinating this change with the package rename in the seeds if I understand it correctly.09:25
dpmShall I go ahead with the package name change in the MP + seed change MP, or is it better to just stick to the current package name at this point?09:25
didrocksMirv: do you have time now?09:28
didrocksdpm: can you file a landing asks please (detailing all the changes that needs to be done in coordination)09:29
sil2100hmmm09:29
didrockssil2100: everything's fine on the apps side (and Mir is still building u-s-c)09:29
sil2100didrocks: regarding webbrowser-app and the other apps that I am to release - what's with SDK?09:30
sil2100didrocks: since I just wanted to test webbrowser-app on my new image and it wants to pull in qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-extras-browser-plugin from today09:30
didrockssil2100: ah, latest sdk is needed?09:30
sil2100didrocks: webbrowser-app : Depends: qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-extras-browser-plugin (= 0.22+13.10.20130926.1-0ubuntu1)09:30
didrockssil2100: ok, can you try the sdk as well then? (and run all AP tests)09:30
sil2100didrocks: will do09:31
didrocksthanks ;)09:31
didrockssil2100: that way, you will confirm notes-app as well09:31
didrocks(before and after)09:31
dpmdidrocks, sure, I'm just asking if it makes sense before I do that. But if it's better to just file a landing ask directly, happy to do that09:31
Mirvdidrocks: just tell09:32
didrocksdpm: yeah, please do, I think we'll target that after the Mir landing09:32
didrocksMirv: hangout? will be easier I guess (it's for the renaming they are doing for qtmultmedia)09:32
dpmdidrocks, ok, cool, thanks09:32
Mirvsil2100: the browser plugin comes from webbrowser-app itself09:32
Mirvdidrocks: ok09:32
didrockssil2100: ah, so not latest sdk :p09:33
asacdpm: check with didrocks09:33
dpmasac, yep, just done that and will file a landing ask, thanks09:33
didrocksMirv: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/bfff3f6c1356693567d8fddc5805b21b8a1cff4b?hl=fr09:34
* ogra_ sighs 09:34
ogra_i cant get my mako installed09:34
dpmdidrocks, could you give me write access to the spreadsheet to file a landing ask?09:37
sil2100didrocks, Mirv: hm?09:37
sil2100didrocks, Mirv: so what about SDK then?09:37
didrocksdpm: sure, doing09:37
didrockssil2100: no sdk ;)09:37
didrocksjust apps then09:37
sil2100didrocks: but webbrowser-app forces SDK upgrade?09:39
Mirvsil2100: I mean, 'qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-extras-browser-plugin' is not SDK09:40
Mirvsil2100: it comes from webbrowser-app09:40
didrockssil2100: qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-extras-browser-plugin is grabbing Source: webbrowser-app09:40
popeyogra_: wassup with it?09:40
sil2100Ah09:40
sil2100Ah ah09:40
didrocksdoes qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-extras-browser-plugin forces latest sdk?09:40
Mirvsil2100: :)09:40
ogra_popey, hangs at "< waiting for device >09:40
ogra_downloading 'boot.img'..."09:40
Mirvdidrocks: no, it doesn't have a version specific dependency on the SDK09:40
sil2100Ah ah ah09:40
sil2100;)09:40
didrocksok, we're fine then, red alert down!09:41
* didrocks updates landing plan09:41
didrocksthanks Mirv, sil210009:41
sil2100It seems my head is still not clear enough09:42
didrockssil2100: no worry!09:42
didrockslool: music-app is a click package, isn't it?09:43
ogra_sigh sigh sigh09:44
didrocksogra_: what's up? don't cry ;)09:45
asacogra_: maybe popey can help by downgrading?09:45
ogra_didrocks, my mako doesnt install anymore :(09:45
asacpopey: we try to find what caused the regression on notes-app... ogra wanted to try downgrading ubuntu-keyboard09:45
didrocksasac: +109:45
popeyi can09:45
asacpopey: we feel its caused by one of these: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20130925.2.changes09:46
* ogra_ still wants his mako back 09:46
didrocksogra_: no red light at all?09:47
asacogra_: 10 minutes09:47
ogra_didrocks, it works fine, it just cant transfer boot.img09:47
asacwas the time you need to press the button09:47
ogra_asac, it runs, i can even boot into the former image 50something that is installed09:47
ogra_fastboot mode doesnt work09:47
ogra_or rather transferring anything in fastboot mode09:48
* ogra_ puts it on charger for 1h ... even though its over 50% full09:48
popeywhere does ubuntu-keyboard-data come from?09:48
popeyI found ubuntu-keyboard09:48
popeyhttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+build/503544809:49
asacpopey: no clue :)09:49
ogra_popey, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/ubuntu-keyboard09:49
asacpopey: Source: ubuntu-keyboard09:50
ogra_just grab it from lp09:50
asacso its coming from same source09:50
popeyok09:50
ogra_bah09:50
ogra_so i can select stuff on screen in fastboot mode ... but "power as enter" is completely ignored09:50
* asac installs the previous build as we already see a notes-app failure there on maguro09:50
asacmaybe its something still fishy or racy with image production09:51
asac:)09:51
asacor how utah uses them09:51
ogra_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6157994/09:51
popeygot it09:51
ogra_thats the result i got over and over on maguro09:51
ogra_(i did 5 runs)09:51
asacogra_: did you try 54?09:52
asacthat one failed in utah as well... maybe we look at the wrong changeset09:52
ogra_54 runs ?!?09:52
popeyhah09:52
popeyi suspect he means image 54 ☻09:52
asacpopey: worked?09:52
ogra_heh09:52
ogra_no, i didnt09:52
asac6409:52
popeyasac: just running tests now09:52
asacogra_: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20130925.1.changes is suspicious09:52
* ogra_ still wrangels with his mako09:52
asacand maguro failing on that is more so :)09:52
asacit has ui-toolkit09:53
popeybah, booted with sensorservice eating the cpu09:53
dpmdidrocks, have you had the chance to look at the write permissions for the landing spreadsheet?09:53
ogra_asac, so you meant 64 above ?09:53
* popey reboots again09:53
ogra_not 5409:53
didrocksdpm: sorry, done, refresh now09:53
asacogra_: did you add a new landing plan entry?09:53
ogra_asac, yes 41 iirc09:53
asacogra_: didnt we say we do that during meeting?09:54
dpmlooking good, thanks didrocks!09:54
asacjust reminding09:54
asacthx09:54
ogra_asac, oh, that was 1h before the meeting09:54
ogra_i added two last night (already landed) and one this morning before the meeting09:54
asacall good then. thx09:55
sil2100didrocks: apps seem fine, can I publish?09:55
didrockssil2100: sure, if all AP tests pass, please do! (no packaging change for me to review?)09:56
sil2100didrocks: I see the apps stack is blinking though!09:57
didrockssil2100: argh, rebuilding?09:57
sil2100didrocks: it seems so, not sure why since platform still didn't run even - waiting on mir o_O09:57
didrockssil2100: building or waiting?09:58
sil2100didrocks: check job blinking09:58
didrockssil2100: if it's waiting, you can publish the previous state09:58
sil2100didrocks: it's doing autopilot tests on it09:58
popeyasac: ogra_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6158106/  100% pass with downgraded ubuntu-keyboard and ubuntu-keyboard-data09:59
ogra_popey, so seems we have the bad package :)09:59
asacpopey: awesome09:59
asacdidrocks: ^^09:59
sil2100didrocks: aaaand the AP machines are stuck...09:59
asacpopey: can you run three times please?09:59
asac:)09:59
didrockssil2100: ok, please check the diff ;)09:59
popeyalready doing ☻09:59
didrocksasac: popey: \o/09:59
asacpopey: then we back out09:59
asacpopey: maybe do it a second time... just to be sure :)09:59
didrockssil2100: for the new stuff if new commits entered while you were testing10:00
asacthat we are not on a lucky streak10:00
asacoh wait plz10:00
asacfor my test on 6410:00
asacthats where we had notes-app failures on maguro as well10:00
sil2100didrocks: actually I was testing the new version already ;p So it's fine10:00
sil2100I'll abort the check job10:00
didrockssil2100: ah great! ;)10:00
asacbut i guess we can already backout ubuntu-keyboard if popey can confirm10:00
ogra_so how do we do that ?10:00
ogra_:)10:00
didrocksasac: do you have the 64 failing link?10:00
sil2100didrocks: http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/cu2d-apps-saucy-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_webbrowser-app_0.22+13.10.20130926.1-0ubuntu1.diff <- a REALLY cosmetic change ;)10:01
popeyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6158115/ second 100% pass10:02
asacdidrocks: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_ro/4442/10:02
asacdidrocks: might be just flakiness on that one... trying to check that10:02
didrocksasac: yeah, not the same value (and we saw that test failing in the past IIRC, but not 100% sure)10:03
asaci guess its a flaki one10:03
didrockssil2100: +110:03
asacits the same we saw on 6510:03
asacand i couldnt repro that locally10:03
didrockssil2100: a cosmetic but good one :p10:03
asacbut it always happens in utah, which is scary10:03
* asac dist-upgrades phablet-tools10:03
asacmaybe phablet-tools upgrade yesterday broke it :)10:03
asaclol10:03
didrocksrevert phablet-tools!10:03
asacsounds unlikely :)10:03
didrocks;)10:03
popeyhttp://imgur.com/lgXFGg3  <- asac right now10:05
ogra_haha10:05
asaclol10:05
asackick out everything10:05
asacno more bugs to worry about10:05
didrocksok, let's revert10:05
asaclets start with all those core apps that look so unhappy on the dashboard10:05
asachehe10:05
asacdidrocks: gogogog10:05
asac:)10:05
asacpush10:05
asackill10:05
asac:)10:05
didrockspopey: meanwhile, do you mind opening a bug?10:06
didrocksso that I reference it for them?10:06
asacdidrocks: remember to file a bug and send it to bfiller10:06
popeyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6158123/ booo had a failure10:06
* popey reboots and tries again10:06
asaci did that for backouts... people hated us if we do that without a bug and notification and i agree thats pretty harsh :)10:06
didrocksasac: pffff, you are so slowwwww ;)10:06
popeydidrocks: sure thang!10:06
asacdidrocks: already done?10:06
asac:)10:06
asacah10:06
didrocksasac: 12:06:02 didrocks | popey: meanwhile, do you mind opening a bug10:06
asacdidrocks: yeah. but please send it explicitly to bfiller by a mail10:07
asacimportant enough to ensure he knows10:07
didrockswill do10:07
looldidrocks: music-app is built as a click package somewhere, but isn't yet a click package in the image10:07
didrocksI'll reference in the commit as well10:07
looldidrocks: there was a breakthrough on the way to making it one though10:07
asacjust make a default candidate: "Heads up about your backout of ubuntu-keyboard"10:07
didrockslool: ok10:07
asacerr default template10:07
asac:)10:07
looldidrocks: for now, it's from the coreapps-drivers PPA10:07
didrockslool: that's why I didn't find it10:07
ogra_can someone trigger a build for mtp ?10:08
asacogra_: so... where is the lightdm change?10:09
asacyou think we can see if we have all the pieces together for the afternoon?10:09
ogra_asac, on my testing plan for today10:09
asacas an option if MM is not coming along10:09
didrocksI planned it for build 6710:09
loologra_: looking10:09
didrocksnot 66 ;)10:09
ogra_beyond that lightdm is in proposed10:09
asacright10:09
asacdidrocks: 66 is the next we cut after recovery of ubuntu-keyboard and mir, right?10:09
ogra_didrocks, heh, thats optimistic10:09
asacdidrocks: 67 is the one we start prepping in the afternoon10:09
asacright?10:09
didrocksasac: yep10:10
asacogra_: yeah... get your act totgether on teseting that10:10
ogra_asac, thats what i planned for today :)10:10
asacogra_: i think thats the single biggest contribution you can do for th eworld on this thursday :) lol10:10
didrocksasac: 66 will have apps as well10:10
didrocks(safe things)10:10
popeydidrocks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-keyboard/+bug/123135610:10
loologra_: it seems to be in PPA already10:10
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1231356 in ubuntu-keyboard (Ubuntu) "Latest ubuntu-keyboard causes failures in notepad app on phablet" [Undecided,New]10:10
loologra_: r3310:10
ogra_lool, what exactly ?10:10
ogra_oh, mtp10:10
didrocksthanks popey10:10
asacogra_: then why are you still answering my pings :)? lol10:10
asacok thanks10:10
* didrocks opens thunderbird compose10:10
ogra_awesome10:10
ogra_so mtp can go into 66 ... i'll upload lxc-android-config too with the upstart fixes10:11
looldidrocks: and for coreapps, who's running the bzr trunk -> PPA stuff?10:12
looldidrocks: (I guess the upstream merger part stops when it's in bzr trunk)10:12
didrockslool: I don't know TBH10:12
loollol10:13
loolnever thought I'd read that10:13
didrockslool: I think it's a dholbach thingy10:13
loolok10:13
didrocksahah, sorry to disappoint you ;)10:13
asaclool: thats a separate jenkins10:13
asacafaik10:13
loolasac: of course!  why not!  it's not like we have enough jenkinses!  :-)10:13
asaclool: it is a security concern things10:14
asacthing10:14
didrocksogra_: hum, 67 is set for mtp, let's try to not push too much on 6610:14
loolfair enough10:14
asaclool: its painful... i think we need to introduce at least another layer10:14
ogra_didrocks, well, i'd like to keep 67 as clean as possible for MM stuff10:14
asacso we can at least stage and guard those things10:14
loolasac: one jenkins to rule them all?10:14
looland in the darkness bind them?10:14
asacthey currentlyfly in completely untested10:14
didrocksogra_: yeah, but maybe we'll rebuild 66 before the end of beta freeze10:14
loolasac: yeah, well if they become click the problem "goes away" in a way10:15
didrocksinfinity: do you have any estimate on the end of the beta freeze?10:15
ogra_didrocks, MM isnt affected by beta freeze10:15
ogra_thats why i wanted it in today so all the proposed cruft is left out10:15
didrocksogra_: right, but we'll have a flow of things coming in after the beta freeze10:15
asaclool: right. but even there we dont have a real CI story. we just know there is a staging place where we review and wherew we could run these test,  but remember that fixing the future will never fix the present :-P.10:15
didrocksif we can get an image before with those fixes + Mir10:15
loologra_: is qtmultimedia itself in alreadY?10:15
asac:)10:15
infinitydidrocks: Very soon.10:15
didrocksthat would be great10:15
ogra_didrocks, exactly10:15
loologra_: that's used by kubuntu10:16
didrockshum, ok, I think it's going to be a fail then, to only have fixes + Mir ;)10:16
didrocksinfinity: ok, thanks10:16
infinitydidrocks: I pre-published already, but won't commit for sure until I'm ready to push all the flavours.10:16
ogra_lool, -touch ... -touch :)10:16
ogra_lool, it is forked, nobody uses it10:16
loologra_: well they also wanted to update qtmultimedia after all10:16
didrocksinfinity: ok, thanks for the head's up10:16
loologra_: we do10:16
didrocksso I guess that will change our plan for image producing10:16
ogra_lool, nobody but us10:16
didrockssil2100: how is the Mir thing going?10:16
loologra_: qtmultimedia is used by kubuntu10:16
ogra_lool, yes, and ? the changes aare in since days10:17
asacyeah. we need to coordinaqte with them i guess :/10:17
infinitydidrocks: If you're holding up on landing things in proposed though, please do upload freely, so all your autopackagetesting and such happens.  Then it'll all just slide in when I remove the blocks.10:17
ogra_lool, there is nothing to upload for qtubuntu10:17
asacso yeah. go all in on lightdm, i feel this mm thing will take longer than a couple hours :-P10:17
ogra_err10:17
ogra_qtmultimedia10:17
asacisnht?10:17
loologra_: no, qtmultimedia is still at 5.0.210:17
asacok... thats better10:17
ogra_lool, err10:17
didrocksinfinity: we are not holding up at all, we are just trying to mitigate with the flowed of things from -proposed and what we upload10:17
asacstill waiting for rsalveti to show up and tell us that its all good to go10:17
ogra_lool, i dont think qtmultimedia was planned to be anything else10:18
didrocksqtmultimedia stays as it is10:18
ogra_lool, only touch will use 5.110:18
didrockswe have the forked version then10:18
ogra_right10:18
loola couple of days ago I read in email that we wanted to update it to 5.1 too10:18
ogra_the most ugly package i have seen in years10:18
loolso that qtmultimeda-touch and qtmultimedia have the same base version10:18
didrockslool: they won't, I checked again with Mirv10:19
loolBTW keep in mind we build against qtmultimedia and we run against qtmultimedia-touch10:19
ogra_lool, we do ... -touch is 5.1 and diverts all .so files of 5.010:19
looldidrocks: ok; seems risky both ways10:19
loologra_: yeah, but that was considered risky a couple of days ago10:19
asacdid we revert yet :)?10:19
loolbut I guess they didn't get the FFE for 5.1 qtmultimedia10:19
* lool lunch &10:19
seb128hum10:19
ogra_lool, i wasnt involved with the packaging, i just knmow whats to land :)10:19
didrockslool: it's not, qt 5.1 basically breaks unity810:19
asachttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-keyboard10:20
didrocksnobody succeeded in fixing all those in a month10:20
didrocksso, let's move on ;)10:20
seb128didrocks, asac, ogra_: the content-hub udpate from yesterday seems buggy, is that a known issue? we can't select a background in system settings anymore (it works if content-hub is downgraded)10:20
ogra_seb128, no, not known10:20
seb128shrug10:20
ogra_asac, ^^^10:20
asacseb128: we can better protect you if you automate that test10:20
asaclets see10:21
ogra_seb128, seems we're missing a system-settings-autopilot test here10:21
didrocksseb128: not known, was explicitely tested by sil2100 IIRC10:21
seb128asac, noted, having more tests is overdue anyway10:21
asacits super important10:21
seb128ogra_, indeed10:21
asacbecause of this reason10:21
seb128well, suck to be us10:21
seb128we are a few guys who didn't know about qt or the toolkit a few months back10:21
seb128with nobody to help us to set up testing or anything10:21
seb128so we do what we can, but we still learn/struggle10:22
asacseb128: maybe you can try to keep an eye on content-hub commits etc.? guess ken could also ask your team to give peer review on merges10:22
seb128having help from somebody in QA to get us started would be nice10:22
asacseb128: also... maybe help ogra prepping and checking the lightdm thing10:22
asacif thats good enough for you10:22
seb128I'm happy to do that10:22
asacno need to wait till its in the image before going back to mterry about bugs10:23
asacogra_: can you prep some debs so that other people can tests?10:23
seb128right10:23
seb128I wanted to test that today10:24
asacdidrocks: ogra_: who is doing the backout :)? /me checks if there was a landing plan entry giving ownership10:24
seb128but I also need to /etc ro mess to be fixed for the tz selection10:24
didrocksasac: it's building10:24
ogra_asac, didrocks10:24
didrocksI'll handle it10:24
didrockslet me add it to the landing plan10:24
asacok cool. add alanding entry i gues as well.. just as good practice :)10:24
asacnice10:24
* didrocks waits for sil2100 on Mir ;)10:25
seb128didrocks, ogra_, asac, sil2100: opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/content-hub/+bug/1231368 about the regression (and pinged gusch, Ken on vac for a few days)10:29
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1231368 in content-hub (Ubuntu) "Can't select a background anymore since the 2013-09-25 update" [High,New]10:29
didrocksseb128: ok, thanks, keep us updated10:29
asacwho beyond ken is working on content-hub?10:29
didrocksasac: gush, as seb128 mentionned10:30
didrocksgusch*10:30
asacso wehave a new content-hub staged?10:30
asacoh no.10:30
asacnot10:30
ogra_http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/lightdm/10:31
ogra_for anyone wanting to test the lightdm session10:31
asacseb128: ^^10:31
asacogra_: what do i do?10:31
ogra_install these two packages and reboot10:31
seb128ogra_, asac: ok10:32
asacok forgot the other thing i was going to do10:32
asacogra_: can i also install that on top of 64?10:32
asaci went back to check the notes-app again10:32
ogra_asac, shouldnt cause issues10:32
asacok i can try right after then10:32
vilaasac: ping, hangout time ;)10:33
sil2100ACK10:35
didrocksMirv: did you advance on the service front?10:38
Mirvdidrocks: (telephony-service, phone stack) no because it failed to build against latest platform, so I was waiting for the stack to proceed to a needed level10:41
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didrocksMirv: I reran the stack for the keyboard publication10:42
Mirvhmm, why does 10.97.0.1 not open for me10:42
didrocksit does here10:42
Mirvok, now did, took 25s10:42
sil2100Sometimes it takes some time10:42
retoadedpsivaa, the jenkins at http://91.189.93.70:8080 is not within the QA lab itself and is not one of the instances I maintain/administer.10:43
didrockshey retoaded!10:43
retoadeddidrocks, howdy10:43
didrocksretoaded: so, we had 2 issues tonight. Seems we still get some DNS issues (Mirv I think can provide some links). It's still address not being recheable from the test machines10:44
didrocksretoaded: second one is that sometimes the autopilot machine don't have a jenkins slave started10:44
didrocksretoaded: anyway we can brute force that? To ensure they are always ready and not hanging all the automated process?10:44
Mirvretoaded: DNS http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/autopilot-saucy-daily_release/label=autopilot-intel/2137/ + http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/autopilot-saucy-daily_release/label=qa-nvidia-gtx660/2137/10:45
retoadeddidrocks, ack. am almost finished with the replacement dns/dhcp services; just need to make sure the pxeboot options on the dhcp server are set correctly.10:45
didrocksretoaded: ok, and on the jenkins slave side? (if a node is down)10:45
sil2100ogra_: how can I make sure that I'm running Mir on my device?10:46
retoadeddidrocks, as for the jenkins slave not being started, which slaves are not starting properly?10:46
didrocksretoaded: the autopilot machines mostly10:46
retoadeddidrocks, all three of them?10:46
didrocksretoaded: well, the 2 we are using the most (intel and nvidia)10:47
retoadeddidrocks, ack10:47
didrocksretoaded: we have 6 of them btw (3 saucy and 3 raring)10:47
didrockssil2100: touch /home/phablet/.display-mir10:48
didrocksand reboot10:48
ogra_sil2100, ps ax| grep surface10:48
ogra_sil2100, that shouldnt return surfaceflinger :)10:49
retoadeddidrocks, ack but only three with autopilot in the hostname correct10:49
ogra_wow10:49
ogra_i can select german language with logind working now10:49
sil2100ogra_: empty, so good ;) But is that good that I can't turn off my screen when using mir?10:49
ogra_sil2100, known issue10:49
ogra_poerd10:49
ogra_*powerd10:49
ogra_its on the landing plan10:49
didrocksretoaded: yeah, look at http://10.97.0.1:8080/, the 3 qa-… are autopilot ones as well10:49
retoadeddidrocks, ack10:50
ogra_lol10:50
ogra_so switching to german makes the settings app german ... but not the rest of the UI10:50
psivaaretoaded: ack, so fginther it is then :)10:53
retoadedpsivaa, may be. I can't say for sure since I know nothing about that instance.10:53
Mirvdidrocks: can you pre-ack http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Saucy/view/Phone/job/cu2d-phone-saucy-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_telephony-service_0.1+13.10.20130926.1-0ubuntu1.diff so that I can publish it when I've done enough testing?10:54
Mirvadding of libusermetricsinput1, and both telephony-service and it are in universe10:54
didrocksMirv: +1 on preACKing ;)10:54
psivaaretoaded: ack10:55
ogra_asac, so in manual testing it seems lightdm improves everything, runnning the test suites now10:55
Mirvdidrocks: thx10:55
didrocksyw10:55
sil2100didrocks, ogra_: somehow I'm unable to run unity8 tests when Mir is running11:05
sil2100ogra_: do I need to do something different?11:05
didrockssil2100: phablet-test-run doesn't work?11:05
ogra_phablet-test-run -n -p unity8-autopilot unity811:05
ogra_sil2100, did you use -n ?11:06
didrockssil2100: working better that way?11:13
didrocksseb128: how do I select the timezone?11:15
didrocksseb128: I pushed "manually", then entered Lyon, I see some results and the keyboard, but pressing the results doesn't do anything?11:16
didrocks(even hiding the keyboard)11:16
ogra_didrocks, you cant yet11:16
ogra_thats still in flight11:17
didrocksok, I get no feedback when pressing the cities, that's expected then?11:17
ogra_pitti and stgraber are still discvussing the best options11:17
didrocksok, making sense, thanks :)11:17
sil2100ogra_: I get a black screen11:17
ogra_sil2100, ouch11:17
sil2100ogra_: unity8 gets killed and then the phone remains black :|11:17
ogra_it should start a new instance11:18
ogra_in test mode11:18
sil2100Not this time11:19
sil2100:D11:19
ogra_i fear you have to ask in #uubuntu-mir for more details, i dont know if anything special is required in the Mir case, the above used to work11:19
didrocksSaviq: did you try running the AP test with unity8 running on Mir? ^11:19
didrockssil2100: the other tests passed? (the apps ones)11:19
Saviqdidrocks, no, can do now11:19
didrocksSaviq: please ;) (preferably with the mir version in the daily-build ppa)11:20
Saviqdidrocks, everything from daily-build or just mir?11:20
sil2100didrocks: some yes, others still running - there's a lot of those11:20
didrocksso mir + unity-mir + platform-api for touch11:20
didrocksSaviq: just pick those, you never know what's else in it :)11:20
didrockswhat*11:20
Saviqdidrocks, k, let me just go for a run under surfaceflinger first11:21
didrocksok11:21
seb128didrocks, sorry, I was at lunch11:22
didrocksseb128: no worry, ogra answered!11:22
seb128didrocks, yeah, the action doesn't success and you get no feedback11:22
seb128didrocks, I saw11:22
seb128didrocks, we should be better at telling what happens though11:22
didrocksok, I was just pushing like crazy :)11:22
ogra_the tz setup uses symlinks ... the ro image setup doesnt really support that11:23
ogra_so it cant be set on a low level11:23
sil2100I see now that the other tests have problems as well11:24
didrockssil2100: lots of failures?11:24
bregmaso my unity desktop daily failed today because some unit tests failed on the PPC arch -- since when in tarnation did we start building for PPC again?11:25
sil2100Tests not starting, this is strange but I see dbus-daemon getting defunct11:26
ogra_hwy is the gallery app test installing Ui toolkit documentaion ?11:26
didrocksbregma: we never stopped for desktop AFAIK11:27
didrockssil2100: did you see some tests passing at least?11:27
sil2100didrocks: actually, looking at the logs now, it seems he didn't run any of the tests :| All of the test suites failed starting! I'll poke on ubuntu-mir, eh11:28
bregmadidrocks, everything passed except some TestScopeProxy tests, which are known to fail randomly on i386 (sounds like some scope back end fails to run)11:30
bregmacould we rerun the unity build?11:30
didrocksbregma: in the daily-build ppa?11:30
bregmayes11:31
didrocksbregma: it will run again in 2h3011:31
bregmaor force the daily check run despite the PPC failure?11:31
didrocksbregma: well, if it didn't build, it won't pass -proposed anyway (and will rebuild there)11:31
didrocksbregma: so better having it in a good shape in the ppa11:31
bregmawe really need the -check logs as soon as possible so we don't waste another day wonder what fresh hell confronts us11:32
didrocksbregma: the ppc failure didn't block the -check AFAIK11:33
didrocksbregma: as the -check runs in parallel than the build11:33
didrocksso if you build passed on i386, you have the -check results11:33
bregmawell, the check didn;t run because the build was marked as failed, and the only failure was the PPC build11:33
didrocksbregma: are you sure? I doubt about it11:33
* didrocks looks11:33
didrocksso, -check runs at the same time than bulid11:34
didrocksbuild11:34
didrocksas I was telling11:34
didrocksand the AP run was http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/autopilot-saucy-daily_release/2138/11:34
didrocksand it's when we did have the autopilot machine busted11:34
didrocksbut it's not because of the ppc failures11:35
didrocks(it's when timo killed unity tests)11:35
didrockssil2100: ok, confirming11:37
didrocksogra_: Saviq: do you know if anyone trying to run those tests with Mir already?11:38
ogra_didrocks, i weould expect the Mir team to do that before asking for landings11:38
looldidrocks: qtmultimedia 5.1 breaks unity?11:38
didrockslool: qt 5.1 broke unity811:39
didrocksthat's why we don't land it11:39
looldidrocks: the original idea was just qtmm, not all of qt (indeed all of qt 5.1 was too much)11:39
loolhmmm11:39
didrockslool: but they went to diverge it as we discussed yesterday11:39
didrocksfor the touch part11:39
didrocksright?11:39
loolI'm sure it will come up in the sync HO later today11:39
sil2100;/11:39
ogra_didrocks, and you need the -touch packages to have it working11:40
ogra_the plain 5.1 packages will indeed break11:40
didrocksogra_: I know, I think we had a good plan11:40
didrocksand we have enough work to do11:40
ogra_right, we still do11:40
didrocksnot sure why we need to revisit all that again11:40
didrocks(we have other battles that seems more worrying)11:41
ogra_not sure why you are testing it11:41
didrocksogra_: qt 5.1? I don't11:41
didrockssil2100: so, no answer from the Mir team, right?11:41
loolit's a bit early to give kgunn_ a heads up11:43
loolbut we can in 75 mn or so11:43
sil2100didrocks: none... but at least they investigate11:44
didrocksok, this thing is not on by default11:44
didrocksit seems that we can play with Mir enabled11:44
didrocks(manually poking)11:44
sil2100Will poke around11:44
didrockssil2100: a 2 minute one is enough I guess11:44
didrocksI think it's fine from what I'm trying11:44
didrocksso, what we need to do, IMHO is:11:45
didrocks1. ping/ensure that the Mir team is on this (anyway, that will be a criteria for Mir by default)11:45
didrocksand 2. publish the current mir+u-s-c+unity-mir+platform-api stacks11:45
didrockssil2100: sounds good to you? (can you do that?) ^11:45
sil2100didrocks: will do! Still playing manually ;)11:46
didrocksogra_: ok, ubuntu-keyboard revert is in the release pocket11:47
didrocksogra_: what do you think about poking an image? as I guess we won't have next one in the incoming hour11:47
ogra_should i re-spin ?11:47
didrocksyeah ;)11:47
* asac installs lightdm finally11:47
Saviqdidrocks, <facepalm> of course I tried to run them11:47
didrocksSaviq: :p11:47
Saviqdidrocks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1226227 and11:48
didrocksSaviq: so, same than for us?11:48
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1226227 in Mir "libmirserver parses arguments and fails if it's not something it understands" [Medium,Triaged]11:48
ogra_didrocks, asac, lool, image building11:48
Saviqhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/qtubuntu/+bug/122623411:48
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1226234 in Unity 8 "QT_LOAD_TESTABILITY=1 does not work for loading the testability driver under mir" [Undecided,Incomplete]11:48
didrocksSaviq: ok, at least, we have a start of tracking11:48
didrocksthanks ogra_!11:48
ogra_didrocks, hmm, we should probably have rolled back content-hub too11:48
ogra_since it has an undetected regression we know about11:48
loologra_: cool11:49
didrocksogra_: well, we don't have any tests impacted by that, so, let's see, the feature just went in and reverted11:49
loolsadly, no music-app, oh well11:49
ogra_well, not having tests but knowing there is a regression is pretty similar to failing tests imho :)11:49
loologra_: hmm so not waiting for unfreeze?11:49
didrocksI agree, but upstream is investaging11:49
didrockslool: let's get a good image first11:50
ogra_lool, asac and didrocks wanted to back out the keyboard11:50
looloh yeah11:50
lool+111:50
didrockswith notes-app passing11:50
didrocksthen, we will have the one with unfreeze (and I hope mir)11:50
asacso we have click regression11:50
loolI didn't have time to look at all into the lightdm thing11:50
asacsome apps dont launch11:50
asacanyone knew what we landed?11:50
asacor what is in pipeline?11:50
ogra_asac, to late ... image builds already11:50
asacsure11:50
asacdont want to hold11:50
asacits not visible in our testing because there are zero tests.11:50
ogra_yeah11:51
ogra_same as for content-hub11:51
didrockswaow, the mir you are using mir, the slower it is it seems11:53
didrockssil2100: do you get that impression as well? ^11:53
didrocks(like opens a bunch of apps and play with them)11:53
sil2100didrocks: sadly...11:54
sil2100didrocks: even closing apps doesn't help11:55
didrockssil2100: confirmed11:55
didrockssil2100: anyway, let's publish it11:55
didrocksas it doesn't impact the main experience11:55
didrocksand it's still an improvment to previous Mir11:55
didrocks(no more flickering indeed)11:56
ogra_sadly not on maguro11:56
didrocksogra_: you do have huge flickering still with latest?11:56
ogra_maguro never flickered11:57
didrocks(they mention that some will still be in, not sure about the same)11:57
ogra_but it got about 50% slower11:57
didrocksogra_: mako is slower as well (apart on the first minute of boot)11:57
ogra_(and it was more than 50% slower than mako before already)11:57
didrocksat least, people will be able to try it and see11:57
didrocksso, it's an improvment :p11:57
ogra_well, scrolling the UI up and down is close to a slideshow11:57
ogra_before it actually scrolled ... despite being slow11:58
ogra_and indeed it still crashes the phone hard after 10min11:58
didrocksI have focus issues on closing apps as well11:58
ogra_hmm, my lightdm testing doesnt look so well either11:59
ogra_:(11:59
didrocks(everytime I close an app another app is coming to the front)11:59
* ogra_ ponders sto restart from scratch 11:59
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ogra_unity8 passes, but i didnt have a single app that passed all tests yet12:00
looldidrocks: will you send an invite for qtmm sync?12:00
sil2100didrocks: final ACKs: http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Saucy/view/Platform/job/cu2d-platform-saucy-3.0publish/20/artifact/packaging_changes_platform-api_0.19+13.10.20130926.1-0ubuntu1.diff12:02
sil2100didrocks: the unity8 stack is still running, so I'm not sure if it's safe to publish unity-mir...12:02
didrockslool: yeah, I'm trying to see when ricardo will be around, let's see in a couple of hours12:02
sil2100didrocks: it seems unity8 is building and such12:02
didrockssil2100: why is that still running? you did install it without unity-mir?12:03
didrockssil2100: ack on platform-api12:03
Saviqdidrocks, so the two bugs above are still valid, so no way to run AP tests on unity8 under Mir12:04
didrocksSaviq: ok, thanks for the feedback!12:04
ogra_asac,12:11
ogra_unity8          - pass12:11
ogra_mediaplayer-app - 2 failures12:11
ogra_gallery-app     - 22 failures12:11
ogra_webbrowser-app  - 31 failures12:11
ogra_friends-app     - 1 failure12:11
ogra_camera-app      - 7 failures12:11
ogra_i think i'll start over with a re-flash12:12
ogra_asac, thats with lightdm session ... i suspect mterry and cwayne only tried the unity tests12:12
didrocksurgh, yeah, doesn't look good12:12
ogra_well, looks good for unity :)12:13
* ogra_ tries to think positive :)12:13
didrocksheh ;)12:13
didrocksyou should just have pasted the first line!12:14
ogra_didrocks, the prob here is that the session change enabled polkit12:14
ogra_didrocks, and nothing ships pkla files to allow *anything*12:14
didrocksyeah, so a lot of apps are failing against it, surely12:14
didrocksyep12:14
ogra_all the apps would have to ship them12:14
ogra_for what they need to access on dbus12:14
ogra_not sure how we can solve that without having breakage in for a few days12:15
ogra_or at least provide an image with the breakage so people have something to work on top12:15
didrockshum, because you think that people can't add the plka file without seeing the breakage?12:15
didrockslike we can have apps shipping the plka files one  by one12:15
didrocksand once it's all there12:16
didrocksswitch to new lightdm?12:16
ogra_because it makes it easier to work on it if the system is in the condition it will be after the landing12:16
didrockswould be nice if we can stage lightdm in a ppa12:16
didrocksand build a special image for them with that12:16
didrockstelling "you have 3 days to ship the needed plka files"12:16
ogra_its already sitting in proposed and wont harm us12:16
didrocksthere is a hint to block it?12:17
ogra_beta freeze12:17
ogra_we dotn ship it12:17
ogra_so dont worry12:17
didrocksah, it's just a seed change then12:17
didrocks(once it landed)12:17
ogra_ubuntu-touch-session has a dep with the change12:17
ogra_no seeding needed12:17
didrocksok, so shipping this ubuntu-touch-session in a ppa12:18
didrocksand building an image with that12:18
sil2100didrocks: hehe, forgot about this one for ACKing before pushing buttons: http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Saucy/view/Unity8/job/cu2d-unity8-saucy-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_unity-mir_0.1+13.10.20130926.2-0ubuntu1.diff12:18
didrocksspeaking of polkit… :p12:18
didrockssil2100: ok, looking good! +112:18
ogra_didrocks, well, once lightdm is in the archive it boils down to a single package ... probably overkill to have a whole image for that12:19
didrocksogra_: so giving just instructions to people?12:19
ogra_(on second thought)12:19
didrockslike apt-get install lightdm12:19
didrocksreboot12:19
didrocksand "please fix"12:19
didrocks:)12:19
ogra_right, something like that12:19
didrocksthat sounds good to me12:19
Mirvasac: didrocks: FYI the previously postponed autopilot has now a fix for its own tests and would be publishable. it's in the landing plan's list after the "end of plan"12:19
didrocksogra_: we should plan that, let's discuss it in the HO12:20
ogra_wget both packages from http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/lightdm/ ... dpkg -i and reboot12:20
didrocksMirv: ok, thanks! I'll assign it then12:20
didrocksMirv: the fix is in trunk, or it's already in the ppa?12:20
didrocksogra_: installing random binaries from random people? ;)12:20
* didrocks runs12:20
ogra_haha12:21
ogra_didrocks, when did you plan the meeting this afternoon, i have to pick up a parcel on the other side of the city and need to be out for a bit12:21
didrocksogra_: I was thinking at 4PM, is that good for you?12:22
didrockslet me schedule it12:22
Mirvdidrocks: in trunk and built in daily PPA, ie. qa stack is ready12:22
ogra_yeah, thats fine12:22
didrocksMirv: excellent, just need validation then12:22
ogra_just need to know when i have to be back again12:22
didrocksinvitations sent12:23
ogra_great12:23
didrockssil2100: all published now?12:24
sil2100didrocks: ossu! Yes12:24
didrocks\o/12:24
didrockssil2100: free to do this AP one?12:25
didrocks(run 67)12:25
didrockssil2100: I guess it's going back to surfaceflinger (you will enjoy the speed improvment ;)) and running all AP tests12:26
asacMirv: check with didrocks how to resurrect it and where12:26
didrockssil2100: it's request 1012:26
didrocksasac: you mean the autopilot run?12:26
asacright12:26
ogra_sergiusens, poke12:26
sergiusensouch12:26
didrocksasac: already handling it ^12:27
ogra_sergiusens, seems i cant flash any of my devices anymore12:27
asac:)12:27
ogra_INFO:phablet-flash:Booting /tmp/tmp_Ntl3S/partitions/recovery.img12:27
ogra_< waiting for device >12:27
ogra_downloading 'boot.img'...12:27
ogra_hangs there forever12:27
ogra_on both devices12:27
sergiusensogra_, and you said you always used sudo too? so not a perm problem?12:27
ogra_yeah12:27
ogra_ sudo phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel saucy-proposed -d maguro --no-backup12:28
ogra_thats what i use12:28
sergiusensogra_, when you flash, there should be small text on the device screen12:28
ogra_respectively with -d mako12:28
ogra_yes12:28
ogra_i see a blue sripe at the bottom12:28
sergiusensogra_, any errors there?12:28
ogra_"fastboot status ....)12:28
ogra_doesnt look like errors12:29
ogra_"fastboot status - download  0868288812:29
ogra_thats what i have written at the bottom12:29
didrocksok, exercising a little bit, back in ~1h12:30
ogra_sergiusens, this is on raring with latest phablet-tools btw ... worked fine yesterday (at least on maguro, didnt flash mako)12:31
sergiusensogra_, strange is that all that is doing is fastboot boot /tmp/tmp_Ntl3S/partitions/recovery.img12:31
ogra_yeah, that wone works12:32
ogra_the next step is failing i think12:32
sergiusensogra_, yeah, not related to phablet-tools, I haven't touched that in ages12:32
sergiusensogra_, oh... the message from fastboot is confusing ;-)12:32
sergiusensogra_, if you tell it to boot something it calls it boot image from then on (downloading 'boot.img')12:33
ogra_ah12:33
ogra_well, it doesnt proceed ... and there are no errors anywhere12:33
ogra_tricky one :(12:33
sergiusensogra_, and we are not writing to disk anywhere there either12:33
sergiusensogra_, what about syslog or cable errors?12:34
ogra_well, the same cable worked for weeks i always use the same12:34
ogra_but i can try another one12:34
asacdidrocks: so 66 was the image before the MIR landing ?12:34
asacoh i think mir failed to land because of build failures etc.?12:35
ogra_asac, 66 was the keyboard rollback12:35
didrocksasac: run 66 is the image before the MIR landing, right12:35
didrocksasac: builds failures on mir is fixed12:35
asacright. we did that before MIR intentionally12:35
asacgoodie12:35
* didrocks is afraid about run 67 with all the stuff that's going to fly in12:35
ogra_asac, well, semi good ... lightdm doesnt look good12:35
asacgood12:35
asac:)12:35
asacwell ... good we found before12:36
ogra_though until i have done a new test from scratch i'm willing to blame my device12:36
didrocksanyway, really going on exercising now12:36
asacok ... i will get there too soon12:36
ogra_asac, well, it will be *really hard* to coordinate the fixes12:36
asacdidrocks: anything important in flight etc.?12:36
ogra_asac, it isnt lightdm thats breaking here, its all the apps not shipping the right permission files for polkit12:36
asacogra_: why? we tell mterry how to reproduce and he will fix it :)12:36
ogra_he cant fix it12:36
didrocksasac: nothing not in proposed, I gave the resurrected AP to sil210012:37
ogra_the individual apps need to ship pkla files for managing dbus access12:37
asacdidrocks: kk12:37
asacthx12:37
didrocksyw12:37
ogra_asac, that will be a pain to coordinate :(12:37
seb128ogra_, how did those work before have working polkit?12:37
asacsil2100: be extra careful about autopilot changes... those can have lethal effects12:37
ogra_seb128, polkit wasnt used at all12:37
seb128ogra_, why is it getting used?12:37
ogra_seb128, logind didnt register etc12:37
asacseb128: we had turned polkit off... i guess we could just set polkit to _all allowed_ policy12:37
asacwhile we fix it :)12:38
seb128hum12:38
ogra_seb128, because ightdm enables logind and polkit gets usable (as it should)12:38
asacwell, i would have preferred a world without polkit :)12:38
seb128ogra_, asac: what I don't get is that without logind, polkit calls would fail for system settings ... why would they work for others and not us?12:38
asacbut seems everyone agrees we need it, so i stopped questioning that :-P12:38
seb128it seems like things should not work without the acl control12:39
seb128rather than magically work12:39
ogra_asac, we shoiuld have started developemnt only after having the base image ready :P12:39
ogra_but it is how it is :)12:39
asacthe base image is heavily influenced by the continuously evolving requirements of those that develop on top12:39
cjwatsonseb128: at least in several places we have policy overrides to just allow everything for now12:40
cjwatsonwhich is crap12:40
ogra_++12:40
cjwatsonseb128: but e.g. packagekit-plugin-click ships such an override12:40
seb128cjwatson, I see12:40
ogra_NM even ships two12:40
asacbut why would we regress on this if those overrides are in place?12:40
ogra_for both cases12:40
asaccant we land lightdm in first steps while keeping those unchanged and then clear the image after?12:40
seb128asac, right, I don't understand how a working polkit can makes things go backward12:40
ogra_asac, no, the tests all fail12:40
cjwatsonyeah, I'm not sure why apps previously worked12:40
seb128it should just allows extra stuff to work12:41
asacogra_: because you maybe try to enable polkit?12:41
asacmaybe dont do that part12:41
ogra_most of the dbus accesses fail12:41
asaci dont knmow what you are doing, so i cant say12:41
ogra_asac, i cant, logind enables it12:41
asaci believe its something simple as seb128 points out12:41
ogra_lightdm registers with liogind12:41
asacseb128: can you help checking that? This story sounds too odd :/12:41
ogra_anyway, i have to go now12:41
asacyeah cu later :)12:41
ogra_back for the call12:42
seb128asac, yes, we are looking at it12:42
seb128asac, ogra_: for the record, Laney just managed to change the device time with those updates12:42
seb128(that and a fix to a pka)12:42
asacogra_: is it that all tests are failing?12:42
asacif so it might be something with autopilot and policykit12:42
* asac restarts with lightdm12:43
seb128asac, polkit was not working before, things using it should have just failed12:44
* asac shrugs12:44
seb128I don't get how making it handle requests can create autopilot issues12:44
asaci will see in a second if all just fails now12:44
seb128seems like a redherring to me12:44
asacnotes-app succeeded :)12:47
asachow can i figure if use lightdm?12:47
asacseb128: any idea?12:47
seb128asac, run loginctl and see if you have a seat for your user12:47
asacok will do after unity8 tests finish12:48
asacseb128: do you have this on your mako already?12:48
seb128asac, no, I've been trying on my grouper because I needed to do build and I had the build-deps installed there12:48
asackk12:48
seb128(system settings builds)12:48
seb128I can try on mako in a bit12:49
seb128asac, Laney has been testing on mako though12:49
seb128he got the system settings to do changes through polkit12:49
asacsergiusens: do you still have the utah thing set up?12:49
seb128so it's looking good from that side at least12:49
asacsergiusens: can you take the latest image, punt the lightdm stuff onit and run all autopilots?12:49
asacand see if thats bad?12:49
sergiusensasac, I don't have devices to test avail12:50
asacsergiusens: lightdm stuff == http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/lightdm/12:50
asacseb128: ogra said it breaks all tests12:50
asaci dont see it on maguro, but i need someone to confirm on mako... but dont worry12:50
seb128k12:50
sergiusensasac, I have a very custom setup for qtmultimedia now that I'm testing12:51
asacsergiusens: what happened to them?12:51
asacok12:51
asacdont worry12:51
sergiusensasac, oh, I don't have mako12:51
asacsergiusens: whats the state of MM?12:52
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sergiusensasac, mediaplayer is ready ready12:53
sergiusensasac, others, testing testing12:54
asacso thumbnails are working in mediaplayer again or did we cut that feature now?12:54
looladding a landing entry for unity-scope-click13:15
asacsome entries on spreadsheet have been set to DONE even though they are targetted for 6613:18
asac34 for example13:18
asacdidrocks: ^^13:18
looldidrocks: did you reach some Mir folks for the issue on mako?13:19
looldidrocks: if not, I think it would be good to give a heads up to kgunn_ now13:19
asacdidrocks: issue?13:19
asacerr lool :)13:19
asacdidrocks: also 66 is imo INIMAGE13:20
asac(ubuntu-keyboard backout)13:20
loolasac: Mir's testing by sil2100 resulted in some graphical problems (but flickering is gone)13:20
asacyeah. we should let kgunn_ and jfunk know and maybe file a bug so they have a place to discuss this13:21
asacsounds like a general improvement though... so not blocking13:21
loolsil2100: do you have a bug for the Mir issue(s)13:22
sil2100lool: I filled in for the AP issues in Mir, kgunn_ said he'll fill in for the slowdowns13:32
sil2100lool: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/123145213:32
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1231452 in Mir "Autopilot tests not working Mir-driven touch devices" [High,New]13:32
sil2100didrocks: ACK! (sorry for answering now, missed the ping while coding)13:32
rsalvetimorning13:40
* rsalveti checking backlog13:40
ogra_re13:47
rsalvetididrocks: lool: qtmultimedia 5.1 doesn't break anything, but anyway, no FFe for us :-)13:49
loolrsalveti: aha, thanks for confirming, I remained on the (sound) idea of updating qtmultimedia-opensource-src13:50
loolrsalveti: well it's better in this direction than the other one at least13:51
lool(ie not building against 5.1 and running against 5.0  :-)13:51
rsalvetiyes13:51
rsalvetiit's fully compatible with qt 5.013:51
rsalvetididrocks: lool: we can land the media stack13:52
rsalvetias of now13:52
rsalvetijust mediascanner and mediaplayer-app13:52
didrocksrsalveti: there is a meeting in 8 minutes about it13:52
looldidrocks: So I was about to ping Francis or Nicholas on getting https://code.launchpad.net/~lool/unity-scope-click/lp-1231393/+merge/187766 merged, but rather than that, is it ok if I just merge it manually?13:52
didrockslet's discuss it there13:52
loolhmm maybe I cant though13:52
didrocksand let me finish my scrollback first ;)13:52
ogra_rsalveti, what about qrvideo-node ?13:52
ogra_*qt13:52
rsalvetididrocks: well, I can already tell you the meeting results here :P13:52
rsalvetiwe're not using gst-hybris by default yet, as it breaks mediascanner13:53
loolhaha13:53
didrocksasac: yeah, because the image is built, right?13:53
didrocksasac: re line 34 DONE13:53
rsalvetiwe're still investigating, but jim is off, so will probably be on hold until tomorrow13:53
didrockslool: I've already pinged the mir guys, yeah13:53
didrocksasac: not sure about your syntax diff between INIMAGE and DONE ;)13:53
didrocksasac: there are bugs13:54
didrocksasac: for the mir stuff13:54
looldidrocks: I gave a heads up to kgunn_ when he connected 30mn ago or so, with all the issues (fixed FTBFS, testsuite, AP tests, graphical glitches, slowness)13:54
didrocksrsalveti: would be nice to have a good plan, let's discuss in 513:55
loolrsalveti: so we're not seeding gst-hybris, but otherwise it works with software decoding?13:55
looland minus sceneselector13:55
didrockslool: hum, so 4 people pinged hum about this in //13:55
didrockslool: not a real good use on IRC :p13:55
rsalvetijust saying we need jim to discuss the proper plan13:55
looldidrocks: I think that's good  :-)13:55
didrocksrsalveti: is he around? ;)13:55
rsalvetididrocks: as I said, he's off today, back tomorrow13:55
didrocksrsalveti: ok, let's move the discussion to tomorrow then?13:56
didrockslool: ok as well?13:56
rsalvetilool: yup, the update for mediaplayer-app is to remove sceneselector and remove any dependency on gstreamer13:56
loolrsalveti: oh so you don't even want to land the ready parts, but wait til jim is back?13:56
rsalvetilool: so it works already using software decode, that's why we can land it already13:56
loolyes13:56
loolI'd rather we land that updated part today13:56
didrocksI think it should at least be part of build 6813:57
didrocksnot 6713:57
looldidrocks: happy to have a chat with jim tomorrow instead or on top of today's13:57
didrockswe have quite a lot of stuff going in13:57
rsalvetino, I just want to put qtvideo-node and seeding gst-hybris by default on hold13:57
didrocksok, let's discuss in 3 min, it seems it's needed13:57
* didrocks will grab some water13:57
looldidrocks: actually that's the time I can't make13:58
looldidrocks: but you guys go ahead13:58
loolI dont see why we'd seed gst-hybris if it's known borken, but I'm sure rsalveti has a good reason   :-)13:58
rsalvetiI'd just move the meeting for tomorrow, invite jim, and land the media stack today13:58
ogra_lool, gst/hybris is fine13:59
ogra_its the stuff using it that isnt13:59
lool15:53 < rsalveti> we're not using gst-hybris by default yet, as it breaks mediascanner13:59
ogra_so we can seed but not use it13:59
rsalvetiit's just that once gst-hybris is in, playbin selects it by default13:59
didrocksrsalveti: I don't want to land the media stack before we discuss it :)13:59
rsalvetibreaking some use cases, such mediscanner13:59
loologra_: I'm not sure we can13:59
didrocksrsalveti: especially with the churn we have right now in the image13:59
ogra_lool, ah13:59
rsalvetididrocks: that's the discussion, but we can do a meeting if you prefer13:59
rsalvetiso can say the same thing via hangout13:59
loolyou guys meet without me13:59
rsalveti:-)13:59
didrocksrsalveti: yeah, let's jump in a hangout14:00
looland land as you can today14:00
* ogra_ relocates14:00
didrocksogra_: rsalveti: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/8353ddd0558b39c4a5d6c701ddd04b156bda1e6714:00
bfillerpopey: what's the deal with the notes-app tests and why do you think it's related to ubuntu-keyboard?14:01
popeybfiller: I didnt. I was just doing as told by ogra_ and didrocks ☻14:02
popeybfiller: they asked me to run the tests locally, then suggested we try downgrading the ubuntu-keyboard, which I did, and the tests passed once I did14:02
ogra_bfiller, rolling back to the former kbd version made the test errors go away14:03
bfillerogra_: by chance14:03
bfillerogra_: has nothign to do with the u-k changes, none are functional14:03
ogra_bfiller, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20130925.2.changes14:03
ogra_thats the changes14:03
bfillerogra_: only tests and schema file since previous version14:03
ogra_nothing on it that could influence tests14:03
bfillerogra_: no really can't see anything14:04
ogra_bfiller, well if there is a nanosecond delay in the kbd coming up we might hit a race in a timing critical test14:04
ogra_the tests are all pretty shaky14:04
ogra_and poften timing critical14:04
bfillerogra_: right, we need to fix the stupid notes-app tests14:04
ogra_*often14:04
ogra_agreed ...14:05
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bfillerthink we need to put the keyboard back or else it's autopilot tests will fail (:14:05
ogra_asac, ^^^14:05
asacbfiller: keyboard regressed notes-app14:12
asaccan we fix that tests first or at same time?14:12
bfillerasac: I think that is a mis-diagnosis14:13
asacbfiller: its not. downgrading fixed the notes-app test14:13
bfillerasac: by luck14:13
asacbfiller: popey ran it a few times and it always fails14:14
asache downgraded and it succeeded twice in a row14:14
bfillerit's a timing issue, no changes were made in the keyboard other than addding tests and schema files, look at the diff :)14:14
bfillerit's shit notes-app tests14:14
asacright. so we are trying what we can14:14
asacbfiller: can you work on getting the notes-app test fixed?14:14
looldidrocks: could you add me to the team that has commit access to unity-scope-click?14:15
asacthis is something that we would block the line on if we cant get it under control14:15
asacso far we continued because we thought we have figured that backing out helped14:15
Saviqfginther, otto runner pretty backed up again today?14:15
bfillerasac: yes will work on the notes-app tests14:15
didrockslool: I can add you to ~ubuntu-unity, getting access to everywhere as a consequence14:15
ogra_asac, did you run lightdm tests (i cant flash anything here anymore and am not sure my install was clean before testing)14:16
looldidrocks: up to you14:16
* ogra_ tries to downgrade phablet-tools14:16
didrockslool: as you wish, if you prepare only upstream access, you need to ask to the team directly, I'm not an admin of that team14:17
looldidrocks: would like to merge lp:~lool/unity-scope-click/lp-1231393 manually because upstream merger didn't pick it up yet14:17
looland we need it tonight14:17
didrocksjuts tell me ;)14:17
didrockslool: ah, it's the one you added directly on the spreadsheet?14:17
looldidrocks: so each time I want to use this to commit, I ping upstream?14:17
looldidrocks: that's fine14:17
ogra_whats happening tonight ?14:17
didrockslool: no, I meant, ping upstream so that they add you to the team14:17
ogra_click party ?14:17
looldidrocks: ah14:17
didrockslool: I don't have that access :p14:17
fgintherSaviq, looks like two earlier tests got stuck and took the full 2 hours to timeout14:17
looldidrocks: ok14:17
* didrocks hides his backdoor plugged in LP14:18
loolalecu: Ping14:18
Saviqfginther, ah, ok thanks14:18
Saviqfginther, so it should clear up soon14:18
didrocksogra_: a click*y* party ;)14:18
ogra_:)14:18
loolalecu: Could you either a) give me write access to unity-scope-click, or b) merge lp:~lool/unity-scope-click/lp-1231393 manually, or c) do both?  :-)14:18
didrockssil2100: were are we with autopilot?14:18
loolalecu: the upstream merger is too slow, I want us to pick this up as to land it in a soon to be built image14:18
ralsinalool: you *should* have write access already14:19
fgintherSaviq, yes. a couple runs have already finished, but I'll keep an eye on it.14:19
Saviqfginther, thanks14:19
loolralsina: bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(chroot-73675664:///%2Bbranch/unity-scope-click/.bzr/branch/lock): Transport operation not possible: readonly transport14:19
loolwhen pushing to unity-scope-click14:19
asacbfiller: previously it wasnt very hard... i need your help to understand this notes-app14:19
sil2100didrocks: testing apps, got a few failures here and there, not sure if there were failures when running the old autopilot - do we have some results from people on the clean image?14:19
ralsinalool: grrrrr dobey? ^14:19
didrockssil2100: mako is looking like that: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_ro/4453/14:20
didrockswe have the only flacky test on notes-app that we know of14:20
didrocksbfiller: FYI ^14:20
didrocksbfiller: compared to http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_ro/4443/14:21
didrocks(which had always < 90%)14:21
sil2100didrocks: re running, since for instance there were 5 test failures on gallery-app14:21
didrockssil2100: ok, please note those failing so that if we reject autopilot again, upstream can work on those14:21
didrocks(if they fail reliably)14:21
ogra_sil2100, yeah, gallery-app was acting up yesterday too14:22
ogra_second run worked, first one failed badly14:22
sil2100ogra_: with the new autopilot? Or the old one still?14:22
aleculool: ack14:22
sil2100Ok, checking how it runs now14:22
ogra_sil2100, whatever plars runs on utah, no idea14:22
didrockssil2100: so old one14:23
dobeyhmm14:23
* didrocks doesn't have any ice, omg…14:23
ogra_didrocks, whiskey on the rocks before 5 ?14:23
* ogra_ shakes head ... frenchies14:24
sil2100Oh god14:24
didrocksogra_: how do you think I can work so long? :p14:24
ogra_haha14:24
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sil2100;)14:24
didrocksogra_: no, I just need to lower the temperature on the pressure that asac puts on us, so ice is needed :p14:24
plarssil2100: we don't update autopilot14:24
ogra_move into a fridge then :)14:24
plarssil2100: we don't update or install anything on the images now, except the -autopilot packages14:25
sil2100plars: ok14:25
didrocksogra_: already considered that ;)14:25
sil2100ogra_, didrocks: second run - 6 failures on gallery-app itself14:25
didrocksurgh :/14:25
sil2100No idea if it's related to the new autopilot ;/14:25
ogra_try a third :)14:26
loolalecu: mind pinging me when it's merged or I can merge?14:26
sil2100ogra_: checking webbrowser-app now, since I at least know it passed on the old one14:26
dobeylool: it is merged14:27
dobeyalecu, ralsina: ^^14:27
looldobey: thanks14:28
sil2100hmmmmm14:28
looldidrocks: ok for me to run click-package stack?14:28
looldidrocks: would like to pick up the bzr change for unity-click-scope into PPA14:28
sil2100ogra_: ohshit, 35 failures on webbrowser-app!14:28
ogra_awesome :P14:29
didrockslool: yeah, +114:29
sil2100didrocks: I would -1 autopilot for now... ;p14:29
alecudobey: thanks14:29
didrockssil2100: ok, please, just log them, open a bug, ping upstream and let's flush autopilot for now14:29
sil2100Not sure if that's related to AP update, but hmmm14:29
ogra_ogra@chromebook:~$ grep webbrowser tests.txt14:29
ogra_webbrowser-app- 31 failures14:29
asacsil2100: webbrowser is sometimes acting very funny here14:29
loolbuilding14:29
asacwhen rerunning its better14:29
sil2100In the past it was gool14:29
didrockssil2100: well, downgrade it maybe14:29
ogra_hmm, that makes me wonder if my local lightdm testing by chance used the new stuff14:29
loolalecu: Would you mind testing the binaries from the PPA once they appear?14:29
didrocksand retry running some tests?14:29
ogra_sil2100, is that in the archive already ?14:30
asaci think it has to do with accurately unlocking the screen before starting14:30
* asac reruns webbrowser withg lightdm as well14:30
aleculool: sure14:30
ogra_asac, how much more accurate that seeeing the home lens should it be ?14:30
asaci havent figured out14:31
ogra_heh14:31
asacits what we try to solve by having a single tool that always does the right thing for each test14:31
sil2100ogra_: new autopilot?14:31
ogra_when i test the device is usually unlocked for a while already and i touch the screen before firing off the cmd in terminal14:31
ogra_sil2100, yeah14:31
sil2100ogra_: or webbrowser-app?14:31
loolalecu: should appear here any minute: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+packages?field.name_filter=unity-scope-click&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=saucy14:32
ogra_i wonder if that taints my testing too14:32
ogra_sil2100, autopilot14:32
didrocksogra_: downgrade autopilot14:32
didrocksoupsss14:32
didrockssil2100: ^14:32
didrocksstop breaking me!14:32
didrocks;)14:32
ogra_pfft14:32
plarsthostr_: I guess those unity updates didn't land? I'm still seeing the crash on unity tests14:32
sil2100ogra_: autopilot no, I was just testing it - downgrading now so that I can see what's up14:32
loolalecu: building: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+build/505185914:32
ogra_sil2100, hmm, k14:32
sil2100But today I tested webbrowser-app with the old AP and it was ok14:32
thostr_plars: nooooo, can you verify that?14:33
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plarsthomi: yeah, looks like not yet http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20130926.changes14:33
ogra_the last unity8 update landed in 24.114:34
plarsthostr_: ok, found it I think, it's slated for 68 - "For image 68libunity, unity-scope-home"14:34
ogra_from 7.81.3+13.10.20130919.3-0ubuntu1 to 7.81.3+13.10.20130924.2-0ubuntu114:34
ogra_thostr_, plars, i think thats one of the packages held back by beta freeze14:35
ogra_hmm, no14:36
thostr_ogra_: do I actively need to do anything here or just wait?14:36
ogra_http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html doesnt have it14:36
didrocksnot libunity, unity-scope-home, (not done yet, it's targeted, probably tomorrow morning), but would have been blocked by the beta freeze anyway14:36
didrocksthostr_: just wait14:36
thostr_didrocks: ok14:36
ogra_thostr_, if it is in the landing plan sheet it is being taken care of14:36
didrocksthostr_: or if you do the testing, we can fasttrack it14:36
didrocksthostr_: running the unity on desktop AP tests14:36
didrocksand the unity8 on phone14:36
didrockswith those installed14:36
didrocksand ensuring there is no regression14:37
didrocksthen, we can publish14:37
didrocksthostr_: do you have anyone able to do that? ^14:37
thostr_didrocks: testing is easy... without that fix test crash, with the fix everything is ok :)14:37
didrocks(so that you don't block on our current bandwidth)14:37
ogra_didrocks, please also request at least one app test in such cases14:37
loolalecu: note that there are other changes staged in the PPA (your pkcon remove change, and a couple of fixes by dobey)14:37
didrocksthostr_: I mean, you need to ensure that you don't regress other AP tests ;)14:37
didrocksthostr_: so you are up for that?14:37
ogra_didrocks, i.e. lightdm passed unity8 on both arches ... but all apps fail14:37
loolalecu: the goal is to make sure that the updated package fixes the regression and is overall good to go; if we need to revert the other changes, let me know  :-)14:38
didrocksogra_: I doubt libunity/home-scope affects apps, but sure, we can add that to the package :p14:38
thostr_didrocks: I'll quickly rerun unity8 AP on saucy-proposed14:38
ogra_imho we should always ask for one app test14:38
ogra_randomly picked14:38
didrocksthostr_: you need to add the package from the daily-build ppa14:38
sil2100didrocks: downgraded autopilot and webbrowser-app tests seem to be working...14:39
didrocksthostr_: both the unity7 one on desktop and unity8 on touch14:39
didrocksthostr_: there are some intructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing#Testing_your_Ubuntu_Touch_Code_before_submission14:39
sil2100Maybe I forgot upgrading something..?14:39
thostr_didrocks: ok14:39
didrockssil2100: so apt-get install directly the binary packages for libunity & home-scope14:39
didrockssil2100: no, I think that's enough info, just log that in a bug, poke thomi about those and let's move on ;)14:40
didrockssil2100: can you paste me the ref on the bug so that I write it for the landing plan?14:40
sil2100didrocks: doing!14:41
sil2100didrocks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/webbrowser-app/+bug/123149214:43
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1231492 in webbrowser-app "All webbrowser-app tests failing with new autopilot" [High,New]14:43
ogra_sergiusens, err ... http://launchpadlibrarian.net/151320727/phablet-tools_1.0%2B13.10.20130919.3-0ubuntu1_1.0%2B13.10.20130924.1-0ubuntu1.diff.gz  ... isnt there a mkdir missing ?14:44
* ogra_ still cant flash, i downgraded two versions already14:44
didrockssil2100: perfect! mind doing system-settings now? (an easy one :p)14:45
didrockssil2100: let's still it from robru and give robru the media stack14:45
loolalecu: it built; could you confirm it passes your testing?  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+build/5051859  thanks!14:46
sergiusensogra_, hmmm, doanac ^^14:46
looldobey: Did you want to test unity-scope-click binaries for next image too?  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+build/505185914:46
sergiusensogra_, should be harmless if it's not there though... let me try14:47
doanacplars: you have something set up that can do this on ashes? ^^14:47
ogra_sergiusens, well, it will do harm on readonly tests (which we dont do yet) since it will just stay in /14:47
sergiusensogra_, oh, for readonly tests the prev tool sets it up14:48
ogra_ah14:48
sergiusensogra_, phablet-click-test-setup14:48
ogra_k14:48
sil2100didrocks: ACK ;)14:48
didrockssil2100: see #ubuntu-devel, you have some free slots until then I guess ;)14:48
sergiusensogra_, naming it 'click' could be wrong in the future as we can also test unity8 and the sdk with that14:49
didrockssil2100: tracking with seb128 the revert?14:49
ogra_well, you can always rename14:49
didrocks(for content-hub + settings)14:49
plarsdoanac: what, upgrading autopilot but not other stuff?14:49
dobeylool: some specific tests? i've been testing it from trunk as i've been working on fixes.14:49
looldobey: smoketesting that it didn't regress there, when built against the other components14:50
doanacplars: actually, i'm confused.14:50
looldobey: perhaps a good thing to test would be with new download-manager in the PPA14:50
doanacsergiusens: you want us to just install that .deb and run its own tests, or do a full smoke run on an image + this deb?14:51
looldobey: top of http://people.canonical.com/~platform/cu2d/results14:51
didrockslool: are you going to land the download manager at the same time?14:51
sergiusensdoanac, I didn't request anything, if it seemed so, sorry14:51
looldidrocks: I don't know14:52
doanacoh - okay14:52
looldidrocks: is there an entry for it?14:52
looldidrocks: it seems to be low priority fixes14:52
looldidrocks: might be needed to help system-image, but didn't hear a request about it14:52
sergiusensdoanac, just pointed you to ogra_ 's comment, but I think it's not a bug, just not elegant14:52
ogra_doanac, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/151320727/phablet-tools_1.0%2B13.10.20130919.3-0ubuntu1_1.0%2B13.10.20130924.1-0ubuntu1.diff.gz misses a mkdir ... sergiusens was just pointing to my line above14:52
didrockslool: yeah, I'm surprised, slangasek told me system-image would need the download-manager14:52
didrockslool: system-image is going to land?14:52
looldidrocks: I think we already got the new one in14:52
didrocksah ok14:52
looldidrocks: system-image is getting ready, but dont think it's landing yet14:53
dobeylool: is there a list of tests in a document or wiki page somewhere, to run?14:53
didrockslool: ok14:53
doanacsergiusens: oh - i was looking at the wrong comment. yeah, that should probably be fixed14:54
looldobey: no; I'd say: test the features / fixes you're landing (network for instance) and test basic operations: installing a click from store, searching for clicks, opening preinstalled clicks (e.g. dropping letters)14:54
loolthere's a new remove click feature apparently in this one  :-)14:54
doanacsergiusens: a simpler thing would be to simply call it lik with PYTHONPATH, eg: PYTHONPATH=/home/autopilot autopilot run ....14:55
doanacthen no mkdir is needed14:55
aleculool: yes: you can uninstall clicks now, though there's a dash bug that prevents the UI from showing that the uninstall was successful14:55
dobeylool: is there a unity8 update that supports results invalidation?14:55
aleculool: so, you click on "uninstall", the click is uninstalled, but the ui still shows the "uninstall" button14:56
alecuit's supposed to close the preview14:56
sergiusensdoanac, well it's not needed since the ';' doesn't care if the prev command was successful14:57
looldidrocks: I see system-image "please plan for image 67"14:57
sergiusensdoanac, but we can do that14:58
doanacsergiusens: ah - even better. swallow the error :)14:58
sergiusensdoanac, exactly, it's a nop14:58
doanaci wish i could say that was my original intent now :)14:58
looldidrocks: (pocked barry to get a system-image update, will report back once I know more)15:02
didrocksthanks lool15:02
aleculool: I'm able to start franglish with the package in the ppa15:04
loolalecu: cool; did you do other tests?15:05
loolalecu: did you test your other changes, like package removals?15:05
alecufate dice, qr-codes, torch work too15:05
loolalecu: these will go in at the same time (single pipe, everything in trunk has to go in)15:05
loolalecu: was this with current or new download-manager (in ppa)?15:05
looldobey: I dont know what that means (results invalidation); is this what I'd see in the log?15:06
aleculool: download manager was not updated; I only installed unity-scope-click15:07
looldobey: dont see anything like that in unity8; would you have a mp pointer or bzr revision or bug?15:07
loolalecu: ok, I think dobey is testing with new download manager15:07
loolralsina: do you know how urgent the changes to download-manager are?15:07
aleculool: and uninstall seems to be failing here with a pkcon error15:07
loolralsina: should we preferably get them in or preferably not?  assuming preferably yes as what's in trunk should be reusable and system-image might need them?15:07
dobeylool: ah, scopes are supposed to invalidate their results, to force the dash ui to refresh. there is a libunity api call of results_invalidated(), but currently, nothing happens in the UI when it is called15:08
ralsinalool: system-image is (AFAIK) developing against trunk, so it does need those to land the integration15:08
loolalecu: so that's good to know, what's the difference with your local testing that explains the regression?15:08
* ralsina reads backlog15:08
alecu[unity-scope-click] - DEBUG: click-scope.vala:192: Error building preview: Problem running: pkcon -p remove com.ubuntu.developer.alecu.qr-code;0.0;all;local:click (Child process exited with code 7).15:08
loolralsina: would you know what testing the download-manager changes received in trunk?15:10
loolalecu, ralsina: So removal being broken shouldn't stop us from landing it as it's a new feature, so doesn't matter if it doesn't work15:10
aleculool: ah, I manually changed the manifests of every installed app, to test the updater-app issues. I'll try with a freshly installed app.15:11
loolbut I'd like to know why it wasn't found in development15:11
ralsinalool: I think it's because of alecu's manual testing of click-updater15:11
loolok; let's confirm removal indeed works then15:11
mandellool, what exactly do you mean with 'what testing the download-manager changes received in trunk?'15:11
loolmandel: we're assuming trunk is always releasable, and sometimes we publish full stacks (e.g. here this is part of the click stack)15:14
loolmandel: so the couple of changes in trunk need to be releasable15:14
aleculool: uninstall is working. No UI feedback, as expected, due to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8/+bug/123140415:14
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1231404 in Unity 8 "SHOW_DASH does not hide the preview" [High,In progress]15:14
mandellool, aha, and you want to know if the fixes are tested? atm all bug fixes come with unit tests with them15:14
mandellool, ideally I'll grab the integration tests from barry (to start with) and will add them to my trunk too15:15
dobeyok, i need to get lunch. will try to run some tests on my nexus when i get back15:15
loolmandel: yes, kind of15:16
mandellool, well, right now all fixes do come with at least one unit tests or more15:16
mandellool, unless minor changes (logging for example)15:17
loolmandel: so to clarify, nobody asked us to land your changes in trunk, we dont land stuff by default, but there are other changes in the "click" stack (which includes download-manager) that we want to push and we prefer pushing whole stacks15:17
loolmandel: so if you've tested latest download-manager, we're good15:17
mandellool, yes, everything in trunk is 'stable' and has been tested and all the new branches are always tested against the image-updates for integration issues15:19
ralsinamandel: we'll need to also test against click-scope and click-update-manager now15:19
ralsinamandel: since those will drag downloader when they land15:19
ralsinainstead of only testing those when we wanted to land15:20
mandelralsina, lool yes, I wonder how I can get jenkins to run those tests too.. I'm think, if we have integration tests in those dependencies I can add some code to run their tests and do no land if we have issues15:20
mandelralsina, lool but, and is a big BUT, I don't believe those projects have integration tests15:21
ralsinamandel: we'll have to do manual testing until they do15:21
ralsinamandel: which is why I asked mmcc to work on that big integration test in today's call15:21
* mandel nods15:21
loolmandel: that's a good question; autopkgtest is meant for this, and the cu2d infrastructure should arrange for packages to be built in the right order against each other (e.g. click-scope would be built against latest download-manager)15:22
mandellool, ok, so as long as we have integration tests we can find those issues, else we might have problems because we do not have anything automated15:28
mandellool, I might as well as some testing libs for the dependencies to have it easier to have tests agains a download-manager like we are doing with barry15:29
loolmandel: believe me, I've pushed for integration tests  :-)15:29
loolralsina can testify15:29
ralsinaamen15:29
loolI've bumped risk on mtp/lxc-android-config to medium15:39
lool(was low)15:39
loolas this touches boot stuff15:39
didrockssure15:40
didrocksogra_ tried to hide that! ;)15:40
ogra_?? why is that ?15:41
ogra_(medium)15:41
ogra_lool, ^^^15:42
loolchanges container startup/shutdown approach15:42
loolI'm super happy that this is coming in as it might solve my FS corruption issues15:42
looland Jamie's15:42
loolbut it's not low risk15:42
ogra_hmm, it has been tested and it has zero risk to affect any tests15:43
ogra_which is the assesment i use for the prio field15:43
ogra_should we judge prio by anything else ?15:44
didrocksI guess by the risk globally, not only on tests would make sense15:46
didrocksasac: FYI, all ppas are screwed15:57
didrocksping on #ubuntu-release, trying #webops now15:57
asacdidrocks: ?15:58
didrocksI've disabled cu2d autorebuild to avoid us ending up in a bad state15:58
didrocksasac: chroot issues15:58
asacinfinity: cjwatson: ^15:58
loolgah15:58
didrocksasac: already pinged them :p15:58
didrocks(see #ubuntu-release)15:59
didrocks(no answer on #webops yet, will keep you posted)15:59
asacyeah thanks15:59
didrocksseb128: waiting your binaries for content-hub and system-settings to revert :p16:00
didrocksseb128: what you doing? ;)16:00
* seb128 slaps didrocks16:01
didrocksheh16:01
didrocksasac: coming?16:02
didrockssil2100: ^16:02
ogra_asac, hurry up slacker !16:02
ogra_:)16:03
cjwatsondidrocks: I'll give back all the failures now, since I have a script for it16:36
didrockscjwatson: thanks! I've gone ahead for the one I cared in term of timing16:38
cjwatsonFortunately when this happened on Tuesday morning I wrote a script for it rather than doing it ad-hoc ...16:39
cjwatsonSorry I didn't notice.  There's a Debian technical committee meeting this evening so I had to take some time to catch up on mail backlog.16:40
cjwatsonAnd wasn't watching IRC.16:40
looldobey: thanks for testing; mind pinging me when you're done so that I publish from PPA to archive?16:44
dobeyi will16:44
loolcool16:44
loolI might be off for dinner, but will check back16:44
thostr_didrocks: not yet done with testing... somehow my device is broken... need to reflash completely16:46
didrockscjwatson: no worry, it was still dealt promptly16:46
loolthostr_: if it's reassuring, we're fixing a probably filesystem corruption source in an upcoming image  :-)16:54
lool*probable16:54
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ogra_finished. total time: 0.564s17:16
ogra_INFO:phablet-flash:Waiting for install to finish on device. Please do not unplug device until phablet-flash finishes.17:16
ogra_phablet flash hates me today17:16
ogra_i have the tour on the phone already17:16
ogra_omg17:25
ogra_the gates are open ... look for cover ... a beta freeze wave is coming out of proposed17:26
cjwatsonerr17:29
cjwatsonhow about not exaggerating wildly?17:29
loolrobru: so archive is open again, that is proposed migration will happen again17:33
loolrobru: e.g. "mir" is "Valid candidate"17:33
robrulool, oh, great. so i'm just waiting on plars to run some tests for me on his n417:33
cjwatsonbut see #ubuntu-release; we're NOT opening floodgates entirely as ogra_ suggested17:33
ogra_sorry :)17:34
cjwatson... or maybe I spoke up too late17:34
loolcjwatson: Yup, we've staged things in -proposed after testing in PPA and we're waiting for them to be in archive to build our next image17:34
cjwatsonlool: (mir wasn't frozen anyway)17:36
ogra_i think we held back one dep in a PPA or some such to not have it promote ...17:37
loolcjwatson: it's on the image though17:37
ogra_(or was that the former Mir)17:37
cjwatsonlool: it's not on an image releasing for beta17:37
cjwatsonso wasn't frozen17:37
loolcjwatson: libmirclient3 isn't in ubuntu image?17:38
loolor libmirclient2 right now rather17:38
cjwatsonnope17:38
cjwatsonnor is xmir17:38
looloh it's seeded because it's a bdep somewhere17:39
loolso might hurt package builds, but can't regress image in itself17:39
loolI thought we were pulling this in somewhere17:39
cjwatsononly for a build-dep from xorg-server for the xserver-xorg-xmir package, afaik17:40
cjwatsondefinitely nothing runtime17:40
looldobey: going for dinner17:43
ogra_geez17:49
ogra_the webbrowser-app autopilot test is massively scary17:49
ogra_you get a traceback every few minutes on the screen ... but it still passes17:49
dobeylool: have run into some other issues outside the click scope, which will get bugs shortly, but installing, uninstalling, and lack of network are all working as expected17:52
ogra_asac, wohoo ...18:11
* ogra_ is at the 8th app test now with a freshly flashed maguro and lightdm 18:12
ogra_not a single failure yet18:12
kgunn_ogra_, hey since you're still on...18:19
kgunn_ogra_, i was hoping to try out the latest image with latest mir we pushed overnight...18:19
kgunn_however, i can't seem to find it (at least its not in the pending image)18:19
kgunn_any ideas ?18:19
ogra_likely in the daily-release ppa18:19
ogra_kgunn_, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=saucy18:20
ogra_is it there ?18:20
looldobey: ok, publishing these then18:23
kgunn_ogra_, yep, that's it thanks....so, guess you gotta pin that ppa and update....18:24
kgunn_?18:24
ogra_it should have higher versions anyway i guess18:25
ogra_no need for pinning18:25
ogra_i would flash an image, make it writable, add the ppa and install the required packages ... then disable the PPA, reboot and run the tests18:26
balloonsfginther, can you turn on autopilot checks for dropping letters?18:26
balloonsfginther, http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/dropping-letters-ci/1/18:26
fgintherballoons, ack18:26
balloonsty :-)18:26
loolHmm PPA files are "Pending publication"18:28
loolwill see how long that takes18:28
loolkgunn_, ogra_: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mir/0.0.12+13.10.20130926.1-0ubuntu118:30
loolit's in saucy now, just apt-get update to it from an image18:30
ogra_published already ?18:30
kgunn_cool thanks18:32
thostr_asac: just ran AP with the fixes for unity18:32
thostr_asac: no crashes18:32
thostr_asac: so, seems all good, meaning no regressions18:33
asacthostr_: nice!18:33
thostr_asac: that is line 81 in the landing plan18:33
asacthostr_: libunity, unity-scope-home are the only sources you touched?18:36
asacogra_: cool. did we get a positive on the mako side aas well?18:37
asacogra_: do you know if #66 got ever blessed?18:37
ogra_nope, but i'm willing to test that one to18:38
asacor banned :)18:38
ogra_i dont think it did yet18:38
asacogra_: how do the results look like?18:38
lool== Publishing click-package stack to archive ==18:38
loolbut I think it will be caught in freeze18:38
asacbfiller: was there any breakthrough on the notes-app tests?18:38
ogra_https://system-image.ubuntu.com/saucy/mako/index.json ... latest blessed one is 6518:38
ogra_asac, all non community apps are fine ... unity8 is just running ...18:39
bfillerasac: working it with omer, we see what the problem is but not sure how to fix it yet18:39
bfillerasac: only happens on mako18:39
ogra_asac, i have a theory btw ... i suspect my app tests befofre failed because i ran the unity8 one first ... will try to re-run some of the app tests after unity to see if thats true18:40
ogra_asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6159874/18:41
ogra_nothing that doesnt also fail on the dashboard18:41
asacright18:42
asaci also noted that. but we reboot between tests18:42
asacnoticed18:43
ogra_well, i didnt this morning18:43
ogra_yay18:44
asacright. thats true. seems unity is not restarted with same flags or something18:44
ogra_unity8 passed too18:44
ogra_so this is good on maguro i'd say18:44
ogra_asac, yeah, so running notes-app tests after unity8 i get 19 failures ... and i think i also know why18:53
ogra_(not sure how thats fixable though)18:53
ogra_the session info (dbus, upstart session socket etc) are set at login time ... via env vars ... if unity restarts at least the upstart session info changes (not surree about the dbus socket) ... but the vars indeed dont get updated18:54
fgintherballoons,18:56
fgintherballoons, http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests/490/18:56
mdeslaurI have a systemd permission fix that probably doesn't impact touch I'd like to upload: LP: #122650918:56
ubot5Launchpad bug 1226509 in systemd (Ubuntu) "lightdm_get_can_restart returns false in Ubuntu Saucy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122650918:56
mdeslaurlool: do I need to add it to the spreadsheet?18:56
loollooking18:57
balloonsfginther, ack, weird.. probably a quick fix18:58
loolmdeslaur: Looks good, adding an entry; you may upload18:59
mdeslaurlool: thanks19:00
loolmdeslaur: FYI we're in archive freeze right now, so either you or I will have to get an ack from release team19:00
mdeslaurlool: yeah, I just asked in #ubuntu-release19:00
seb128see, lool is there19:01
seb128just ignoring me on other chans :p19:02
seb128or :-(19:02
loolseb128: didn't see your ping, sorry19:02
loolseb128: where was that?19:02
seb128lool, no worry19:02
seb128lool, I was wondering why you were telling people that testing on the n7 is worthless19:02
seb128lool, it might not be the preferred target, it's still useful testing19:02
seb128lool, especially for thing that are not hardware dependend19:02
loolseb128: I told robru it's a secondary citizen and had known breakage19:02
loolseb128: and wasn't alone in explaining that  :-)19:03
balloonsfginther, pushed a fix.. I'll note the printout still isn't showing the esult19:03
seb128lool, ok, he told me that you said it was not worth testing the content-hub fixes on it, and he has access to nothing else19:03
loolseb128: I guess that if things pass on N7, it's a good indication it's likely to pass on N4/galaxy nexus; the reverse is completely false though19:03
robrulool, yeah, true. but specifically in the hangout this morning you told me to find somebody else to test these things. you didn't say i could test content-hub myself ;-)19:03
robrublame also didrocks ;-)19:04
looldidrocks told you to find someone else, but I agree  :-)19:04
loolwe need Nexus 4 tests to confirm things work19:04
seb128lool, content-hub is nowhere device specific19:04
seb128*shrug*19:04
seb128lool, we need to get everybody a n4 if we want every fix to get confirmed there19:04
loolI think he had to run a bunch of autopilots tests that are fragile across devices though19:04
robrulool, just mediaplayer_app19:06
robrudunno if that one is19:06
loolthe app itself is generic, sadly the stack can be quite device specific, especially with hw decode, but fortunately that's broken19:07
* fginther has to step away for an hour or two.19:28
loolI've updated spreadsheet19:29
loolmtp isn't in19:29
loolshould be boot tested before we allow it in19:29
rsalvetilool: can you release the platform stack? just powerd20:05
rsalvetiwe need it in so we can respin the android package and unblock powerd for mir20:05
loolrsalveti: asin publish to archive?20:06
loolrsalveti: did you test the binaries or same source built yourself?20:06
loolrsalveti: landing 37?20:07
rsalvetilool: yes, all deps are already in the archive20:08
loolrsalveti: Indeed, libhybris is good; publishing now20:08
loolrsalveti: FYI, we have another barrier just tonight20:08
rsalvetilool: what do you mean?20:09
loolrsalveti: archive is frozen; so I have to heads up release team20:10
loolthere will be a cron allowing touch specific packages in soon20:10
rsalvetilool: ok, thanks20:11
loolrsalveti: now pending approval by stgraber with his new script20:11
loolrsalveti: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/powerd/0.13+13.10.20130926-0ubuntu1 pending publish in proposed20:22
loolshould migrate to release by itself20:22
loolrsalveti: if you need to upload android with no change, just do so; it should get through automatically now20:22
rsalvetiyup, doing that now20:23
rsalvetiseems powerd was accepted20:23
rsalveti-queuebot/#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted powerd [sync] (saucy-proposed) [0.13+13.10.20130926-0ubuntu1]20:23
rsalvetimaybe still in proposed20:23
* ogra_ uploads the sdk seed change 20:29
lool== publishing services stack ==20:32
loolto get updated mtp20:32
looltested here along lxc-andorid-config (in archive)20:32
loolpff, got to wait til it rebuilds20:33
ogra_phew, that seed stuff was a beast20:34
ogra_(and the changelog looks most scary)20:34
rsalvetilooks scary20:36
ogra_hehe, yeah20:37
ogra_but it makes everything so much nicer20:38
asacdont destroy the image :)20:50
asacthx20:50
asac:)20:50
ogra_heh20:50
looltired to wait for intel test machine, might come back later to chekc20:52
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Saviqfginther, huh, any idea what's https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/unity-phablet-qmluitests-saucy/1905/console about?21:17
fgintherSaviq, I have no idea what happened there. "dh_auto_test -O--parallel -O--fail-missing" crapped out for some reason21:42
Saviqfginther, yeah, it looked pretty weird, have restarted, let's see what happens next21:43
lool== really publishing services stack ==23:16
loolfor mtp23:16
asaclool: is that all according to the plan :)?23:18
* asac stops worrying for now :)23:19
loolyes23:19

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