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| pitti | Good morning | 05:26 |
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| pitti | bdmurray: how do you mean? the metapackages will pull in the last version, the blacklist is just for not automatically removing the old version so that you can run pg_upgradecluster | 05:26 |
| pitti | bdmurray: there is a debconf note, README, etc. which explain how to upgrade | 05:26 |
| pitti | ogra_: not yesterday, there's only so many hours I can help out with that stuff; but if you upload, please at least revert the addition of the individual files before even more people get them (seems we have no way to fix that on upgrade?) | 05:27 |
| pitti | awe_: hey Tony, still here? | 05:30 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:46 |
| dholbach | @pilot in | 06:46 |
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| diwic | asac, hi, I want to improve PulseAudio's quality by fixing a bug that causes crashes on desktop. The bug fix is in a module (module-combine-sink) that we do not use on the phone. Can I upload it? | 07:19 |
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| brainwash | why do the logind policy rules for "power-off-multiple-sessions" and "reboot-multiple-sessions" differ? and why does logind think that multiple sessions are running after logging out completely? bug 1226509 | 10:11 |
| ubottu | bug 1226509 in systemd (Ubuntu) "lightdm_get_can_restart returns false in Ubuntu Saucy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1226509 | 10:11 |
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| brainwash | why do the logind policy rules for "power-off-multiple-sessions" and "reboot-multiple-sessions" differ? and why does logind think that multiple sessions are running after logging out completely? bug 1226509 (comment #2) | 12:27 |
| ubottu | bug 1226509 in systemd (Ubuntu) "lightdm_get_can_restart returns false in Ubuntu Saucy" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1226509 | 12:27 |
| * diwic wonders why installing fluidsynth (and only that package) caused an initramfs update. | 12:29 | |
| Laney | ev: Howdy, got two questions about diagnostics in system-settings. 1. Does whoopsie work there (should we hide the settings?) 2. Do you plan on shipping a pkla to make polkit work there? We've been testing it on the device and that one doesn't work. | 12:41 |
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| mlankhorst | cjwatson: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/ redirects to /NBS which 404s | 12:49 |
| cjwatson | mlankhorst: Works for me | 12:50 |
| cjwatson | Perhaps you mean http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS | 12:50 |
| cjwatson | And the buggy redirection there is a bug in IS' reverse proxy for http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/ | 12:51 |
| cjwatson | So please ask them | 12:51 |
| cjwatson | You probably want http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html anyway, though | 12:51 |
| mlankhorst | 404s too ;) | 12:51 |
| cjwatson | Definitely works for me | 12:52 |
| mlankhorst | hm weird, fails in firefox, works with wget | 12:52 |
| cjwatson | WFM in firefox | 12:53 |
| cjwatson | dodgy proxy? | 12:53 |
| mlankhorst | if there is a proxy, it would be some transparant one | 12:53 |
| cjwatson | shift-reload? | 12:53 |
| smoser | anyone else use xchat-indicator and have it not seem to work in saucy ? | 12:54 |
| mlankhorst | hm weird stuff | 12:54 |
| seb128 | smoser, indeed, I've pinged larsu about it (he's doing indicator-messages) | 13:02 |
| seb128 | smoser, can you open a bug on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+filebug ? | 13:03 |
| smoser | seb128, yes. | 13:03 |
| seb128 | smoser, thanks | 13:04 |
| seb128 | smoser, do you know when it stopped working? | 13:04 |
| smoser | seb128, its been quite some time. | 13:06 |
| smoser | maybe a month. | 13:06 |
| seb128 | smoser, ok, thanks | 13:06 |
| smoser | since i dont log in and out often, i kind of assume things like that might fix themselves on a reboot. | 13:06 |
| smoser | and then i'm lazy to ask. | 13:06 |
| smoser | anyway, bug sudo apt-get update | 13:06 |
| smoser | ooops | 13:06 |
| smoser | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat-indicator/+bug/1231435 | 13:07 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1231435 in xchat-indicator (Ubuntu) "indicator does not change color on new messages in saucy" [Undecided,New] | 13:07 |
| smoser | feel free to make it have the right words seb128 | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | infinity: ping, would be really awesome if you could have a look at bug 1212662 | 13:18 |
| ubottu | bug 1212662 in eglibc (Ubuntu) "zic -l Foo/Bar leads to broken /etc/localtime" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1212662 | 13:18 |
| cjwatson | pitti: do you have a VCS for the Ubuntu package of systemd? want to fix bug 1231230 | 13:21 |
| ubottu | bug 1231230 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Rescue on server image fails to detect partitions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1231230 | 13:21 |
| pitti | cjwatson: a local one, yes; haven't yet merged to Debian's git (which is finally there) | 13:21 |
| pitti | cjwatson: I have two local unreleased commits, but in general, don't block on that; I'm fine with grabbing LP diffs | 13:21 |
| pitti | cjwatson: if you don't need that uploaded right now, I can commit it, though | 13:22 |
| cjwatson | pitti: I'd like it today I think, but need to go out now to return some unused hardware, so in a bit. Thanks | 13:23 |
| gusch | seb128: hmmm - state handling seems to be pretty broken ... | 13:41 |
| seb128 | gusch, in system settings or in content-hub? | 13:42 |
| gusch | seb128: content-hub | 13:42 |
| seb128 | gusch, :-( | 13:42 |
| seb128 | gusch, can you get it fixed today? | 13:42 |
| gusch | seb128: let's see - no promises ... | 13:43 |
| seb128 | gusch, should we think about reverting that update to get back to a working feature? | 13:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, asac: ^ | 13:43 |
| seb128 | how did that content-hub land if it's obviously buggy? | 13:43 |
| gusch | seb128: when do we need to deside for that? | 13:43 |
| seb128 | gusch, not sure, let's see what asac and didrocks say | 13:44 |
| gusch | seb128: I looked to the content-hub part only - didin't test with the setting, and for the test it worked fine | 13:44 |
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| didrocks | if gusch can't get a fix in the next hour, let's revert | 13:47 |
| didrocks | seb128: can you try reverting and ensuring it's working on latest image? | 13:47 |
| doko | Riddell, are you aware of the ftbfs for qtwebkit-source on armhf? | 13:47 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I did that already, it does | 13:47 |
| gusch | didrocks: ok - one hour then | 13:47 |
| seb128 | thanks | 13:47 |
| didrocks | seb128: does this work for you (this one hour + revert if nothing?)? ^ | 13:48 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yes, thank you | 13:48 |
| didrocks | ok, let's see | 13:48 |
| seb128 | gusch, thanks as well, finger crossed you fix it ;-) | 13:48 |
| didrocks | gusch: keep us up to date, please ;) | 13:48 |
| doko | seb128, is platform-api expected not to build on powerpc? | 13:49 |
| doko | pitti, pygobject ftbfs on powerpc | 13:49 |
| pitti | doko: thanks for the poke, retrying (sounds like test race condition) | 13:50 |
| seb128 | doko, I think popwerpc is not supposed indeed | 13:50 |
| seb128 | sil2100, Mirv, didrocks: ^ can you confirm? | 13:50 |
| pitti | doko, seb128: I thought basically anythign which uses Qt5 is !powerpc at this point? | 13:51 |
| Riddell | doko: yeah, shadeslayer had an idea to fix it but don't think he get there yes | 13:51 |
| Riddell | yet | 13:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, indeed, I'm unsure the platform-api uses qml though | 13:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, it's lower in the stack | 13:51 |
| didrocks | doko: yeah, no point in having powerpc, I do remember we had issues on platform-api with it | 13:52 |
| didrocks | don't have the whole story in mind though | 13:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, but it use the location service and other bits that might not work on ppc | 13:52 |
| sil2100 | Same here | 13:56 |
| psusi | is there a way to get the original core dump that the stack retracer removed from a bug report? I really need to poke around in there more to find the cause of this crash... | 14:16 |
| geser | you might be lucky and it's still available through the bug history | 14:23 |
| psusi | I think there's a permissions thing... once the link is removed from the bug report, launchpadlib disavows it, like it does for private bugs you aren't subscribed to | 14:25 |
| psusi | in other words, the link shown in the email where it was removed no longer works | 14:26 |
| gusch | seb128: didrocks not looking good to fix it soon :( | 14:32 |
| didrocks | ok ok | 14:32 |
| seb128 | gusch, do you see what's wrong? is there any workaround we could use on the settings side (you said your test example worked) | 14:32 |
| gusch | seb128: I'm not yet sure where the problem really is - still debugging | 14:33 |
| seb128 | gusch, can you confirm the bug at least? (e.g that the settings stopped working) | 14:35 |
| gusch | seb128: yes - doens't work for me either anymore | 14:37 |
| seb128 | ok, at least it's reproducable | 14:38 |
| didrocks | ok, reverting then? | 14:38 |
| seb128 | gusch, ^ do you want another 15 min to see if you get to the bottom of it, or just revert now? | 14:39 |
| psusi | wait a minute... what's going on here? gparted does not have debug symbols.. it is stripped... and not saved... no -dbg package... no symbol file anywhere... no options given to dh_strip... so how is apport retracer providing full stack trace? | 14:40 |
| gusch | seb128: I rather guess I will need another hour just to find the point of error | 14:40 |
| seb128 | gusch, ok, let's revert then | 14:41 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ^ | 14:41 |
| gusch | seb128: better, yes :( | 14:41 |
| seb128 | didrocks, how do we revert nowadays? get a mp to back out the changes from trunk? | 14:41 |
| didrocks | seb128: push it to trunk directly even | 14:41 |
| didrocks | seb128: if you can avoid doing the same mistake than I did, it will be good ;) | 14:42 |
| didrocks | like keep the old changelog | 14:42 |
| didrocks | adding a new one | 14:42 |
| didrocks | telling "reverting blahblahblah" ;) | 14:42 |
| didrocks | seems better than reverting the changelog altogether | 14:42 |
| didrocks | (I did that for ubuntu-keyboard before seeing it was nonsense) | 14:42 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ok, let me try that | 14:43 |
| didrocks | seb128: then, if you don't mind, once build, can you add the ppa, upgrade (adding the content-hub package) to your phone and just poke with it? | 14:43 |
| didrocks | seb128: that would be perfect ;) | 14:43 |
| didrocks | (I can poke you once built) | 14:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, sure can | 14:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks | 14:43 |
| gusch | seb128: but then the seeting change needs to be reverted as well, as that change was incompatible | 14:44 |
| seb128 | gusch, is that in another component? | 14:45 |
| gusch | seb128: in the seetings application (setting the store there) | 14:45 |
| seb128 | gusch, right, I can do that | 14:45 |
| didrocks | seb128: ah, so we'll need another settings altogether? | 14:46 |
| seb128 | didrocks, seems so :/ | 14:46 |
| didrocks | sil2100: so maybe wait on that for settings ^ | 14:46 |
| sil2100 | ...:D | 14:48 |
| * sil2100 feels like he's picks up and drops things one after another | 14:49 | |
| sil2100 | ;) | 14:49 |
| sil2100 | seb128: could you give me a sign once it's done | 14:49 |
| sil2100 | ? | 14:49 |
| pitti | psusi: WDYM? http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/g/gparted/ has debug symbols, at least for aucy? | 14:50 |
| * pitti throws in an "s" | 14:50 | |
| pitti | awe_: hey Tony | 14:51 |
| psusi | oh look at that, we do have a secret repository of debug symbols even when they are supposed to be stripped and not saved | 14:51 |
| pitti | psusi: ddebs.u.c. is the one and only repo, by far not secret :) | 14:51 |
| psusi | well, when you ask dh_strip to, you end up with a -dbg package in the main archive | 14:52 |
| awe_ | pitti, hey... just getting going this morning, and trying to read my back-log | 14:52 |
| pitti | awe_: no worries | 14:52 |
| pitti | awe_: just a quick status update | 14:52 |
| awe_ | lots to read | 14:52 |
| pitti | awe_: so I'm creating a dbusmock for ofono, and test that with the ofono scripts; making nice progress | 14:52 |
| psusi | and when you don't... it's not supposed to go anywhere, but it seems it gets stered to ddebs instead... nifty trick | 14:52 |
| psusi | now to see if I can pry the original crash dump out of launchpadlib | 14:53 |
| pitti | psusi: heh, welcome to 2006 :) | 14:53 |
| * pitti pats https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pkg-create-dbgsym/0.1 | 14:53 | |
| awe_ | pitti, I'd like to discuss more but I have a stand-up in ~5m | 14:53 |
| pitti | awe_: no worries | 14:53 |
| pitti | awe_: I need to leave soon for today anyway | 14:54 |
| pitti | awe_: just wanted to say "there's hope" :) | 14:54 |
| awe_ | pitti, one thought though is what advantage does this have vs. using the internal ofono phone emul? | 14:54 |
| awe_ | pitti, there's always hope | 14:54 |
| awe_ | don't you listen to U2? ;) | 14:54 |
| pitti | awe_: well, I'm investigating both; I still failed to get the emulator actually working (see my mail) | 14:54 |
| awe_ | OK ( still reading emails... ^^ ); ttyl! | 14:55 |
| arges | hallyn: ping | 14:58 |
| doko | hrm, python-werkzeug now shows another test failure | 15:02 |
| seb128 | gusch, didrocks, sil2100: https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/content-hub/revert-buggy-changes/+merge/187812 ... I can't push directly, I'm not in the right team | 15:02 |
| didrocks | perfect, let me push it | 15:03 |
| seb128 | gusch, didrocks, sil2100: I verified with a bzr bd --source that the debdiff has only the changelog between the 20 and 26 version | 15:03 |
| didrocks | seb128: thanks for the extra care! | 15:03 |
| didrocks | asac: FYI, we are reverting content-hub ^ | 15:03 |
| didrocks | ok pushed | 15:03 |
| didrocks | now, let's rebuild content-hub | 15:03 |
| didrocks | seb128: poke me once system-settings is ready, I'll rebuild it as well | 15:04 |
| asac | didrocks: your call. .ensure the stakeholders are well aware and jason in particular | 15:04 |
| didrocks | asac: I guess they are ;) | 15:04 |
| asac | ultimately i am less strict about regressions in apps that have no tests | 15:04 |
| asac | so in this case i probably wouldnt have backed it out unless the content-hub folks say we should do :) | 15:04 |
| asac | but your call... both is valid :) | 15:05 |
| didrocks | asac: gusch says we should do (he's upstream) | 15:05 |
| didrocks | and ken is on holidays | 15:05 |
| didrocks | so I guess it's the only way to get to a sane state | 15:05 |
| doko | yofel, ping about virtuoso-opensource | 15:05 |
| asac | didrocks: sounds right | 15:07 |
| asac | ack | 15:07 |
| hallyn | arges: . | 15:09 |
| psusi | pitti: when apport retraces a bug and removes the coredump, is it really deleted, or just no public way to find it any more? and I have a bug that it incorrectly decided was a dup and removed everything useful without doing a full stack trace... but it isn't a dup. anything to be done about that? | 15:14 |
| mterry | robru, I poked dbarth_ about the cordova MIR and he says we don't need that either, which means we don't need to stress as much about qtaudioengine | 15:17 |
| mterry | robru, though if we want to drop it anyway for 14.04, we might as well drop for 13.10 as well. So question to bzoltan still stands | 15:18 |
| didrocks | mterry: +1, we don't need it for now | 15:45 |
| pitti | psusi: /away -all | 15:52 |
| pitti | sorry, I'm afraid not; I can drop the master bug from the duplicate db, if that's a systematic mis-duplication | 15:53 |
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| pitti | awe_: ok, got the simulator to work | 16:20 |
| awe_ | cool! | 16:21 |
| pitti | awe_: I also have an initial version of an ofono dbusmock (just took me an hour or so, not much wasted), in case we ever need that in the future | 16:22 |
| awe_ | pitti, also good news! | 16:22 |
| pitti | awe_: EOD for me now, but I'll start writing some autopilot tests for the dialer tomorrow (also followed up by mail again) | 16:23 |
| awe_ | pitti, ack | 16:23 |
| awe_ | pitti, I will try and dig thru my overflowing inbox and respond at least once before my EOD. | 16:24 |
| awe_ | pitti, one question... I floated the idea of a hangout to discuss progress, brainstorming, ... | 16:24 |
| awe_ | is 5 UTC too late for you? | 16:24 |
| pitti | awe_: monday, anything before 1600 UTC | 16:24 |
| awe_ | ack | 16:25 |
| pitti | awe_: I have taekwondo in the evening; I could miss that in principle, but earlier would be better | 16:25 |
| awe_ | right | 16:25 |
| awe_ | I'm loathe to schedule something early my time Monday morning, would Tue early be OK ( 14 UTC )? | 16:27 |
| awe_ | or as early as 13UTC? | 16:28 |
| pitti | awe_: works fine for me | 16:28 |
| awe_ | coolio | 16:28 |
| pitti | awe_: Tuesday I can do anything from 0500 to 1800 UTC | 16:28 |
| awe_ | I will schedule a hangout for that time then ( tue 14utc ) | 16:28 |
| pitti | great | 16:28 |
| pitti | I'll hopefully have some ap test prototypes by then | 16:29 |
| awe_ | should I invite everyone on the Connection Testing email? Or should we make it a smaller group? | 16:29 |
| pitti | awe_: can you please invite fginther, if possible? (for how to run this in CI) | 16:29 |
| * awe_ notes the To/Cc list is rather large | 16:29 | |
| pitti | awe_: no need to pull gema, thomi, chris etc. into this IMHO; I think it's fine if I'll be there as a representative of QA; someone from CI, and then of course the dialer/messaging app authors | 16:30 |
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| Guest2048 | Hi all! I would like to ask something! I have a fresh 13.10 Beta installed, and would like to remove the wayland libraries, but... | 18:15 |
| Guest2048 | sudo apt-get purge libwayland-client0 libwayland-cursor0 libwayland-server0 | 18:15 |
| Guest2048 | Reading package lists... Done | 18:15 |
| Guest2048 | Building dependency tree | 18:15 |
| Guest2048 | Reading state information... Done | 18:15 |
| Guest2048 | Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have | 18:15 |
| Guest2048 | requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable | 18:15 |
| Guest2048 | distribution that some required packages have not yet been created | 18:15 |
| Guest2048 | or been moved out of Incoming. | 18:15 |
| Guest2048 | The following information may help to resolve the situation: | 18:15 |
| Guest2048 | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 18:15 |
| Guest2048 | ubuntu-system-settings : Depends: libtimezonemap1 but it is not going to be installed | 18:15 |
| Guest2048 | E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. | 18:15 |
| Guest2048 | I dont understand how ubuntu-system-settings come to the picture | 18:16 |
| Guest2048 | Anybody have some idea, how can I remove wayland? | 18:16 |
| psusi | you have to fix your broken packages ( u-s-s ) before you can do anything else with apt | 18:17 |
| Guest2048 | but I can do anything else, example now I installed xchat | 18:18 |
| Guest2048 | and anyway I dont understand what is broken | 18:19 |
| Guest2048 | should I install ubuntu-system-settings? | 18:19 |
| psusi | u-s-s is broken becuse it depends on libtimezomemap1, but it isn't installed | 18:19 |
| Guest2048 | sudo apt-get install libtimezonemap1 | 18:20 |
| Guest2048 | Reading package lists... Done | 18:20 |
| Guest2048 | Building dependency tree | 18:20 |
| Guest2048 | Reading state information... Done | 18:20 |
| Guest2048 | libtimezonemap1 is already the newest version. | 18:20 |
| Guest2048 | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 19 not upgraded. | 18:20 |
| Guest2048 | now Im installing u-s-s | 18:20 |
| slangasek | Guest2048: you shouldn't purge the wayland libraries | 18:22 |
| Guest2048 | ups... now i can remove wayland, but unity goes with it | 18:22 |
| Guest2048 | because of unity? | 18:22 |
| Guest2048 | I thouth its in different libraries now (Mir) | 18:22 |
| Guest2048 | Im on my way to build the new wayland... So I think gonna install xfce, then remove wayland | 18:25 |
| Guest2048 | thanks for your help goodbye | 18:25 |
| slangasek | Guest2048: because the existing mesa libraries are built against wayland for optional support, so removing them breaks the whole system | 18:28 |
| slangasek | (mesa, and also gtk) | 18:28 |
| psusi | say, what ever happened to x32? I still don't see x32 builds in the archive. Is there a separate archive for that or did it die? | 18:28 |
| slangasek | it was never alive | 18:28 |
| Guest2048 | So how can i build wayland from git? | 18:29 |
| psusi | so developmen has stalled or is there ongoing work somewhere? | 18:29 |
| Guest2048 | Should I build it on xubuntu? | 18:30 |
| Guest2048 | I mean not just build, but use it, with weston | 18:32 |
| Guest2048 | I wasnt able to compile weston because of the default wayland libraries | 18:32 |
| infinity | psusi: There's been no great push to do a full port. There's toolchain support for building x32 binaries with -mx32 | 18:35 |
| infinity | I wouldn't mind doing an x32 port, but I suspect someone needs to make a good case for it. | 18:35 |
| infinity | Guest2048: Having old wayland libraries installed shouldn't prevent you from building new ones... | 18:36 |
| slangasek | Guest2048: not really a question for this channel, though | 18:38 |
| Guest2048 | infinity: yes, I can build it, but how can I use by just replacing the wayland libs? | 18:39 |
| Guest2048 | slangasek: but the not dev ubuntu channel? | 18:40 |
| slangasek | Guest2048: I imagine you would want a wayland channel; this channel is for development of Ubuntu | 18:41 |
| Guest2048 | slangsek: I was there, and they say, the problem, that the old wayland libs | 18:42 |
| Guest2048 | so I was to remove them, but doesnt understand the problem with ubuntu-system-settings and libtimezonemap1 | 18:43 |
| Guest2048 | so reinstalled the system, because I thout I screwed something | 18:44 |
| Guest2048 | but no :) | 18:44 |
| Guest2048 | I will try to install it to a custom location | 18:47 |
| Guest2048 | thanks for your help | 18:47 |
| Guest2048 | ubuntu-devs how doing this? making a new package first then upgrading it with dpkg? | 18:49 |
| sarnold | Guest2048: if you're still talking wayland you can probably do ./configure --prefix=/opt/guest2048/wayland/ and then continue as directed by their README.. | 18:50 |
| sarnold | no need to get dpkg involved if you're just building things locally. | 18:50 |
| psusi | so if I wanted to build x32, how do you do that? dpkg-buildpackage -ax32 doesn't seem to work... it doesn't pass -mx32 to gcc for some reason and so ends up still building for amd64 | 19:25 |
| dobey | x32? | 19:26 |
| dobey | i386? | 19:27 |
| psusi | no... x32... amd64 with 32 bit pointers | 19:28 |
| slangasek | psusi: dpkg-buildpackage -afoo will never use gcc -mbar; you would need an x32-linux-gnu-gcc wrapper | 19:29 |
| dobey | right if you want to cross-compile something you need a cross-compiler | 19:29 |
| psusi | well it doesn't even seem to be looking for x32-linux-gnu-gcc | 19:30 |
| psusi | it's just running regular old gcc | 19:30 |
| slangasek | then you're trying to build a package that isn't cross-buildable? | 19:32 |
| psusi | it's parted.. what's it take to be cross buildable? it seems to go out of its way in the rules file to default DEB_BUILD_ and DEB_HOST_ variables and call dpkg-buildflags to get default flags... doesn't dpkg-buildpakcage -afoo set those varibles? and I would think when they are set dpkg-buildflags would return the correct -mbar flag | 19:36 |
| slangasek | yes, it does set them, but does the package pass them in a useful manner to the upstream build system? | 19:37 |
| slangasek | psusi: so debian/rules certainly seems to dtrt for passing --build= and --host= to configure; do you see this in the build output? | 19:41 |
| infinity | psusi: So, maybe we're asking the wrong questions here. Why would you try to build with -amx32? That would give you an _x32.deb, which would be almost certainly useless to you... | 19:43 |
| infinity | psusi: Given that we're already pointed out that there isn't an x32 port. | 19:44 |
| infinity | s/we're/we've/ | 19:44 |
| psusi | yes... aha... configure says it can't find the cross compiler and so I guess it falls back to gcc | 19:45 |
| psusi | infinity: I figured I'd try making such a port ;) | 19:45 |
| psusi | good learning excercize at least | 19:45 |
| infinity | psusi: http://ports.debian.net/debian/pool-x32/ | 19:46 |
| infinity | psusi: I suspect you'll find all the work is already done. | 19:46 |
| infinity | psusi: It's just neither an official Debian port, nor an Ubuntu port. | 19:46 |
| psusi | ahh, neat | 19:47 |
| infinity | I guess http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian/ is the more canonical URL this decade. | 19:48 |
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| semiosis | slangasek: ping | 20:27 |
| slangasek | semiosis: hello | 20:28 |
| semiosis | greetings. i'm interested in your comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glusterfs/+bug/1205075 | 20:28 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1205075 in glusterfs (Ubuntu) "mountall doesn't treat glusterfs correctly" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:28 |
| slangasek | sure :) | 20:28 |
| slangasek | I guessed that was what I'd done that had brought people hunting for me | 20:29 |
| semiosis | what can we (the upstream community) do to make gluster work better with mountall? | 20:29 |
| semiosis | some interface you mentioned? | 20:29 |
| semiosis | "the expected interfaces required for mount.$fstype helpers" | 20:30 |
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| slangasek | semiosis: right, just responded on the bug for reference - short answer is, "anything that mount(8) lists as a valid commandline for mount itself" | 20:32 |
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| slangasek | there are certain internal options to mount that you don't have to handle... mount -n, mount -f, and of course mount -t | 20:32 |
| semiosis | ok i understand | 20:32 |
| slangasek | but at least in testing with the 13.10 version of glusterfs-client (whose usage output differs from the version in the bug report), it seems that mount.glusterfs expects <device> <-o$options> <dir>, which is actually *contrary* to what the mount manpage describes, and is incompatible with other helpers | 20:33 |
| slangasek | (i.e., mount.nfs) | 20:33 |
| slangasek | and mountall shouldn't have to guess which order the arguments go in :) | 20:33 |
| semiosis | got it. i'll open bugs upstream about this | 20:34 |
| arges | hallyn: I have a patch for bug 1100843, can you review: http://people.canonical.com/~arges/lp1100843/precise/fix-lp1100843-precise.debdiff . so far my tests pass with this build. thanks | 20:34 |
| ubottu | bug 1100843 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Precise) "Live Migration Causes Performance Issues" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1100843 | 20:34 |
| semiosis | slangasek: i've done most of my testing with precise and haven't run into any of these kinds of problems, as far as I know | 20:35 |
| semiosis | slangasek: has anything changed in raring that might affect this? | 20:35 |
| semiosis | s/raring/quantal/ | 20:35 |
| slangasek | semiosis: as far as I know, the mount argument handling in mountall has not changed | 20:38 |
| semiosis | ok. i was planning on putting some time in on the ubuntu packages tonight, i'll dig into this as well while i'm at it | 20:39 |
| semiosis | glusterfs ubuntu packages | 20:39 |
| slangasek | perhaps this was a glusterfs upstream behavior change between 3.2.5 and 3.2.7 | 20:39 |
| slangasek | since 13.04/13.10 have 3.2.7, and 12.04/12.10 have 3.2.5, and the bug is only reported against 13.04 | 20:39 |
| semiosis | right | 20:40 |
| semiosis | most people use my PPA packages of glusterfs, and I've never heard of anyone having this problem -- with any glusterfs version since 3.1 | 20:40 |
| semiosis | but i'll look into that in any case | 20:44 |
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| doko | barry, could you have a look at the python-werkzeug ftbfs and tell me that the wsgi tests need access to the network? | 22:22 |
| jtaylor | doko: fails for me with network enabled and disabled | 22:29 |
| doko | hrm, does succeed here locally | 22:31 |
| doko | jtaylor, so if you have an idea why ... | 22:36 |
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| jtaylor | uh its a pybuild package | 22:37 |
| jtaylor | how do I get that verbose | 22:37 |
| jtaylor | doko: works with LC_ALL=C.UTF-8 | 22:41 |
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