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* slangasek waves15:03
slangasek#startmeeting15:03
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Sep 26 15:03:28 2013 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:03
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slangasek[TOPIC] lightning round15:03
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slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox stokachu)15:03
slangasekev stokachu doko barry cjwatson jodh stgraber xnox bdmurray slangasek15:03
slangasekand ev is on vacation this week15:03
slangasekstokachu: hi there :)15:04
stokachuhey!15:04
dokothat means, short meeting =)15:04
stokachubug 1207123 - verification done, bug 995719 - needs upload, done.15:04
ubottubug 1207123 in gnutls26 (Ubuntu Quantal) "Key usage violation in certificate has been detected" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120712315:04
ubottubug 995719 in puppet (Ubuntu Precise) "process_name.rb removed in 2.7.11 but still provided by puppet-common" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99571915:04
dokostokachu, are you finished?15:07
slangasekanyone here speak ruby who could verify that puppet SRU and sponsor it? :)15:08
stokachudoko: yea sorry i had done. at the end15:09
dokomeh, yes, I can look at that one15:09
stokachudoko <3 ruby? :P15:10
doko- fixed native gcc-4.7 bootstrap on aarch6415:10
doko- one last gcc-4.8 update for saucy15:10
doko- investigated an interaction of ld 2.24 and --as-needed or static linking15:10
doko  http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2013-09/msg00196.html15:10
doko- MIR processing15:10
doko- fixing build failures for packages in main, didn't count ...15:10
ubottugcc.gnu.org bug 2013 in c++ "g++ 2.96: typedefs + namespaces + inheritance == problem" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]15:10
doko- aarch64 porting meeting15:11
doko- fix pythonX.Y autopkg test failures15:11
dokoubottu, you are wrong15:11
ubottudoko: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:11
doko(end)15:11
barrylp: #119699115:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1196991 in Ubuntu system image "Support the new download dbus service" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119699115:11
barrydone15:11
barry;)15:11
stgraber;)15:11
cjwatsonClick:15:12
cjwatson * Arranged to run system hooks when removing packages (bug 1227681).15:12
cjwatson * Sped up system and session startup when many packages are installed (bug 1227604).15:12
ubottubug 1227681 in click (Ubuntu) "dangling symlinks in /var/lib/apparmor/clicks" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122768115:12
cjwatson * Filtered out VCS metadata (bug 1223640).15:12
ubottubug 1227604 in lxc-android-config (Ubuntu) "Boot speed is significantly affected by installing apps" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122760415:12
cjwatson * PackageKit API tidy-up and enhancements to show removability.15:12
ubottubug 1223640 in click (Ubuntu) "Version control meta directories should be filtered out" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122364015:12
cjwatson * Implemented unregistration of preinstalled packages.15:12
cjwatsonOEM bugs:15:12
cjwatson * Cleaned up most of the rest of bug 1065281.  Now reported to work at least in saucy.15:12
ubottubug 1065281 in OEM Priority Project quantal "Installer crashed when trying to partition 4k/4k sector hard disks" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106528115:12
cjwatsonLaunchpad:15:12
cjwatson * Worked on some build slave crashes / bad failure modes (bug 993642, bug 1227086 - the latter exposed by the test rebuild).15:12
ubottubug 993642 in launchpad-buildd "Breaks if the build doesn't produce the expected changes file" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99364215:12
cjwatsonMiscellaneous:15:12
ubottubug 1227086 in launchpad-buildd "Slaves on 32-bit architectures crash on >2GiB build logs" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122708615:12
cjwatson * Backported a fix for bug 1193136, an irritation when trying to use w3m/precise with Launchpad.15:12
ubottubug 1193136 in Canonical SSO provider "launchpad login service doesn't render in w3m (<= precise)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119313615:12
cjwatson * Analysed Edubuntu livefs build failure; turned out to be a subtle bug in livecd-rootfs (as well as an arguable bug in indicator-sound packaging).15:12
cjwatson * Worked with IS to migrate ubuntu-archive jobs from lillypilly to new machine (snakefruit).  Much faster, yay.15:12
cjwatson * Fixed readthedocs.org to handle bzr branches with tags again, for click.readthedocs.org.15:12
cjwatson * Some NBS tidy-up.15:12
cjwatson * Organised travel to client sprint.15:12
cjwatson..15:12
jodh* Upstart:15:12
jodh*** Working on bug 122721215:12
jodh***** Improved session shutdown time dramatically.15:12
jodh***** Currently updating tests and checking all code paths.15:12
jodh*** Presented on Upstart at LinuxCon North America and Linux Plumbers last week.15:12
ubottubug 1227212 in upstart "Session logout takes too long" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122721215:12
jodh    Slides and LaTeX source:15:13
jodh    http://people.canonical.com/~jhunt/presentations/LPC13/15:13
jodh* Misc:15:13
jodh*** Travelling Monday (and day off Tuesday to recover :)15:13
jodh15:13
jodh 15:13
stgraberBlueprint-related work:15:13
stgraber - Image based updates (BLUEPRINT: foundations-1305-image-based-updates)15:13
stgraber   - Landed the rewritten server code, everything appears to work as expected15:13
stgraber   - Discussed the changes required to run private system-image servers (also applies to ports)15:13
stgraber   - Reworked the list of channels and channel aliases15:14
stgraber   - Updated the specification on the wiki15:14
stgraber - LXC15:14
stgraber   - Serge and I are the new maintainers15:14
stgraber   - Busy moving everything from sourceforge to github, working on a new website, ...15:14
stgraber   - Code reviews15:14
stgraber   - Working on implementing the container autostart specification15:14
stgraber   - Proposed some cross-distro templates improvement for 1.015:14
stgraber 15:14
stgraberOther work:15:14
stgraber - Linux Plumbers 201315:14
stgraber  - Organized the Containers mini-summit (waiting for video recording to be released)15:14
stgraber  - Attended the Secure Boot mini-summit15:14
stgraber  - Quite a lot of interesting hallway (and bar) discussions15:14
stgraber - Other15:14
stgraber  - Various additions to writable-paths in Ubuntu Touch15:14
stgraber  - Debugged a few issues related to upstart on current touch images15:14
stgraber  - Tried to figure out what's wrong with the shutdown sequence that'd cause /userdata to remain writable, leading to dataloss15:14
stgraber  - Wrote a draft spec for boot time hooks for touch15:14
stgraber 15:14
stgraberTODO (hopefully this week):15:14
stgraber - Update wiki documentation for system-image15:14
stgraber - Try to prioritize the system-image client work so we have all the bits we really need in 13.1015:14
stgraber - Write a slightly more user friendly tool to release an image from saucy-proposed to saucy15:15
stgraber - Spend some more time debugging the filesystem unmount sequence, fixing anything that needs fixing15:15
stgraber - LXC upstream work (some more bugs to move to github, website work, ...)15:15
stgraber(DONE)15:15
xnox* added logind/pam session support to ubiquity, closing off a few bugs15:15
xnox  for beta images15:15
xnox* proposed ubuntu-touch & ubuntu-sdk seed restructure15:15
xnox* working on emulator, now mounting some filesystems15:15
xnox  (mknod to the rescue, to get me mtdblock device nodes)15:15
xnox* gave upstart talks with james at plumbers/linuxcon, they went well15:15
xnox  (a few comments / bug reports gathered from discussions there)15:15
xnoxdone.15:15
bdmurraybug triage of iso-testing bug reports15:16
bdmurrayubuntu-release-upgrader cruft cleanup15:16
bdmurrayresearch into update-notifier crash notification for things that have already been reported (bug 1229856)15:16
ubottubug 1229856 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "kernel oops results in apport-gtk launching for every .crash file" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122985615:16
bdmurrayresearch into update-manager bug 1223815, bug 122332115:16
ubottubug 1223815 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "At session start it always alert me: "system updated"" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122381515:16
ubottubug 1223321 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "update-notifier notifies of phased-updates for which you may not be eligible" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122332115:16
bdmurrayfixed ubuntu-release-uprader bug 121064315:16
ubottubug 1210643 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Saucy) "UnsupportedDialog not displayed for an unsupported release" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121064315:16
bdmurrayuploaded aptitude with fix for bug 92387615:16
ubottubug 923876 in aptitude (Ubuntu Quantal) "FR: Limit and clean-up kernel images and headers automatically in LTS" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92387615:16
bdmurrayreported ubuntu-release-upgrader bug 1225016 (supported meta packages)15:16
bdmurrayreported apport bug 1226776 regarding linux package hook uname check15:16
bdmurrayinvestigation into bug 917339 and lvremove bug15:16
bdmurrayinvestigation into bug 102459015:16
ubottubug 1225016 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "code disagrees about supported metapackages" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122501615:16
bdmurraySRU verification of bug 92387615:16
ubottubug 1226776 in apport (Ubuntu) "linux package hook checks uname for KernelOops" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122677615:16
ubottubug 917339 in schroot (Ubuntu) "10mount: umount: /<<CHROOT>>/dev: device is busy" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91733915:16
ubottubug 1024590 in update-manager (Ubuntu Saucy) "update-manager crashed with AttributeError in _on_download_changed(): 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_value'" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102459015:16
bdmurraytesting kernels for bug 121800415:16
ubottubug 1218004 in linux (Ubuntu Saucy) "Apple Wireless Trackpad causes kernel oops" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121800415:16
bdmurraydone15:16
slangasekah, we're to me already :)15:19
slangasek * LinuxCon, Linux Plumbers Conference, UEFI Plugfest15:19
slangasek  * kudos to jodh and xnox for their presentations at the conference; they led to a number of good discussions about some easy wins that would help folks trying to use upstart in the wild15:19
slangasek  * lots of work on UEFI/SecureBoot: fixes to shim netboot support (v4 and v6), merged upstream and landed in saucy, RT filed to get this submitted to SysDev and signed by MS15:19
slangasek  * learned that edk2's FAT driver is non-free, overlooked a license addendum when preparing the package the first time around; now moved to non-free in Debian and mulitverse in Ubuntu, so qemu doesn't get to depend on it15:19
slangasek * poking at the system-image test suite to try to work around the behavior of ubuntu-download-manager, apparently it's really hard to run a test suite when your test http server takes 2 minutes to timeout open connections15:19
slangasek * today: beta release notes15:19
slangasek(done)15:19
slangasekany questions?15:19
slangasek[TOPIC] Final Beta15:20
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slangasekso the release notes are always the bit that gets done last15:20
barrythe python 3.3 release note looks fine15:21
slangasekthose of you who still have time left in your day today, please take a little of that time to help get the ISO testing bugs from http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/303/builds documented in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes15:21
slangasekand if there are cool things that we've added in saucy that you think should also be there, please add them as well!15:22
dokoI don't think toolchain bits are cool enough15:22
slangasekdoko: you want to upload gcc 4.8 to make it cooler? :)15:23
dokoslangasek, xnox wants me to fix one more thing ...15:23
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB15:23
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slangasekanything else here?15:23
slangasekdid anyone think of a topic they'd like to present on today?15:24
xnoxdoko++ =)15:24
barryxnox: that's actually ++doko15:24
dokojust keep fixing build failures ...15:24
dokohttp://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20130917-saucy.html15:25
dokohttp://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/15:25
* slangasek nods15:25
cjwatsonclearing NBS and as much of proposed-migration as can be done would help too15:26
cjwatsonone thing I forgot to mention: I changed proposed-migration so that the excuses are sorted by age (well, at one-day granularity, and alphabetically within that)15:26
cjwatsonso when you're trying to clear out long-standing entries, you can more easily ignore noise from things uploaded recently15:26
cjwatsonI find things sort of in the middle are usually the most fertile ground15:27
slangasekoh, nice!15:27
slangasek#endmeeting15:29
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dokocjwatson, slangasek: would like to upload anew graphviz upstream, letting us get rid of lua5.1 in main15:29
barrythanks!15:29
slangasekthat's all, folks15:29
jodhthanks!15:29
slangasekdoko: probably should be an FFe bug?15:29
cjwatsonI guess I wonder whether getting rid of lua5.1 in main is a pressing problem15:30
cjwatsonbut yeah, FFe15:30
stgraberthanks!15:31
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