| MartijnVdS | morning everyone | 06:37 |
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| === iahmad is now known as iahmad|afk | ||
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 08:32 |
| AlanBell | morning | 08:34 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Morning? It's nearly afternoon already! | 08:35 |
| popey | pip pip | 08:36 |
| bigcalm | Yes. It's nearly time for Shropgeek tomorrow morning | 08:36 |
| bigcalm | A sort of day off work | 08:37 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| AlanBell | anyone know about SIP proxies? | 08:41 |
| AlanBell | I want to have something between handsets and an external SIP PBX that can pick up the inbound callerID and can initiate an outbound call | 08:42 |
| bigcalm | AlanBell: *? | 08:45 |
| bigcalm | AlanBell: of which I know diddly squat | 08:45 |
| AlanBell | that is one possibility, however it is kind of for people who don't want a local PBX | 08:46 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy European Day of Languages! :-D | 08:49 |
| bigcalm | JamesTait: Och aye the noo? | 08:57 |
| JamesTait | Aye! | 08:57 |
| * bigcalm attempts to bait mgdm | 08:57 | |
| MooDoo | morning all | 09:01 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 09:03 |
| === iahmad|afk is now known as iahmad | ||
| popey | \o/ http://popey.mooo.com/minecraft/ \o/ British Isles map | 09:26 |
| mgdm | ?lastlog mgdm | 09:27 |
| mgdm | oops | 09:27 |
| mgdm | oh, it was bigcalm | 09:27 |
| mgdm | remind me to abuse him later | 09:27 |
| bigcalm | Bwuhaha | 09:28 |
| bigcalm | popey: your connection being hammered now? | 09:30 |
| popey | a bit | 09:30 |
| popey | not too bad | 09:30 |
| * Seeker` wants to see BW graphs :P | 09:31 | |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6158042/ | 09:32 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6158047/ more history | 09:34 |
| popey | i suspect there are a few people trying to find their own house on it | 09:37 |
| MooDoo | popey: give everyone access to your minecraft map so ubuntu users can build a house or something at their location :D | 09:37 |
| popey | its open access | 09:37 |
| MooDoo | cool | 09:37 |
| popey | same hostname | 09:38 |
| bigcalm | I'm in the sea | 09:41 |
| bigcalm | Which is 1 block deep | 09:41 |
| popey | you spawn in the solent | 09:42 |
| popey | between southampton water and the isle of wight | 09:42 |
| bigcalm | Yes | 09:42 |
| * popey opped bigcalm | 09:42 | |
| bigcalm | Aww, I left | 09:42 |
| popey | i know ☻ | 09:43 |
| bigcalm | Big Brother is watching | 09:46 |
| popey | http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Region-SIM-Lock-bei-Samsungs-Galaxy-Note-3-1967044.html lol samsung | 10:26 |
| popey | region locking phones | 10:26 |
| bigcalm | Wah, that's horrible | 10:28 |
| bigcalm | I wonder at what level that would be enforced. If one were able to run Ubuntu Touch on it, would it then work with any sim for instance? | 10:29 |
| mungbean | what samsung don't need to do this | 10:30 |
| mungbean | kiddies first day at nursery today...he's just a tad excited | 10:32 |
| popey | hehe | 10:32 |
| popey | bigcalm: dunno if it's done internally in the firmware | 10:32 |
| mgdm | bigcalm: I think it's done in the 'baseband' bit (the bit that handles the air interface, as I understand it) | 10:34 |
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| gordonjcp | it may be that the RF strip only handles EU frequencies | 10:37 |
| mungbean | any perlverts here? | 10:38 |
| mungbean | in bash i can do: | 10:38 |
| mungbean | cat users.csv.3|while IFS=, read firstname surname email username | 10:38 |
| mungbean | do echo "$firstname|$surname|$email|$username" | 10:38 |
| mungbean | done | 10:38 |
| mungbean | how can i hack this into a perl script | 10:39 |
| mungbean | the perl script already exists to create user accounts, taking arguments interactively on the command line | 10:39 |
| mungbean | i want to either call the perl script with parameters or inesrt the loop in the perl script | 10:40 |
| SuperMatt | oh god | 10:43 |
| SuperMatt | I wanted to type renice | 10:43 |
| SuperMatt | ended up typing remince | 10:43 |
| mungbean | ok think i fixed my poblem by passing command line params to perl | 10:49 |
| popey | directhex: thanks for the air tips, helped the guy test his app and he's going to update his kickstarter to reflect linux support... | 10:51 |
| mungbean | \o/ | 10:51 |
| popey | although he's currently trending towards ~54% of his goal ☹ | 10:52 |
| popey | http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/770576827/color-0/ | 10:52 |
| popey | \o/ Jabber | 10:53 |
| MattJ | Jabber \o/ | 10:53 |
| SuperMatt | I just typed remince again >.< | 10:53 |
| directhex | popey, i don't really have an understanding of the cost of development of a game on that scale, so i can't make an informed decision on whether to back it | 10:54 |
| mungbean | popey: anything like http://www.amazon.com/Trinket-Studios-Inc-Color-Sheep/dp/B00DY8TLA0 ? | 10:54 |
| bigcalm | Shame about the spelling | 10:54 |
| directhex | popey, for every game kickstarter, i ask myself "how long will this take? how many people? how much am i effectively paying them?" - if the numbers don't add up, i don't back | 10:54 |
| popey | tbh it looks mostly done | 10:55 |
| popey | game mechanics wise, needs loads more levels | 10:55 |
| AlanBell | the framework is done, lots of interesting levels need designing | 10:55 |
| popey | and there's some glitchy UI issues | 10:55 |
| popey | interestingly it offers mouse or joypad to play | 10:56 |
| popey | I used trackpoint which was way nicer | 10:56 |
| dogmatic69 | popey: I lol'ed at 'one horsepower' | 10:56 |
| popey | felt like I really had direct control of the character with my finger | 10:56 |
| popey | ☻ | 10:56 |
| AlanBell | I will probably back it when it updates with linux support | 10:56 |
| popey | by "linux support" it means "install an outdated version of Adobe Air" | 10:56 |
| popey | which works | 10:56 |
| popey | but is a bit bleh | 10:57 |
| popey | works well on my 1080p display i7, it's not exactly taxing | 10:57 |
| popey | dogmatic69: that reply is getting a surprising number of faves and RT's | 11:01 |
| dogmatic69 | well JC has 2m + followers | 11:03 |
| dogmatic69 | and it was pretty funny imo | 11:03 |
| mungbean | despite being a womanising cheat | 11:04 |
| popey | lunchtime! | 11:05 |
| dogmatic69 | popey: about 2 or 3 already with the same response, yours was first though : | 11:05 |
| popey | \o/ | 11:05 |
| directhex | popey, i guess i don't know what £5 is paying for. graph suggests about £2k4 on game development? what does that *mean*? | 11:05 |
| directhex | er, £5k | 11:05 |
| directhex | a full-time junior programmer for a month? | 11:05 |
| dogmatic69 | where do junior devs get £5k per month? | 11:05 |
| dogmatic69 | that is £60k pa | 11:06 |
| SuperMatt | oh most of it will go to the HR department | 11:07 |
| SuperMatt | because hiring a junior means they saved so much money, those savings go to their bonuses | 11:07 |
| dogmatic69 | IT job watch says otherwise http://awesomescreenshot.com/0c21rb7801 | 11:08 |
| directhex | dogmatic69, 2.4k on development costs, not 5k | 11:10 |
| directhex | dogmatic69, and the cost of hiring an employee is about double his or her salary alone - taxes, estates costs, equipment costs, etc | 11:10 |
| dogmatic69 | taxes? | 11:11 |
| SuperMatt | well the employer has to contribute to national insurance | 11:12 |
| mgdm | NI contributions etc | 11:12 |
| dogmatic69 | NI is deducted from the gross salary, HMRC "The amount you earn before tax and National Insurance are deducted is your 'gross salary'." | 11:16 |
| dogmatic69 | so no cost to the company over and above the salary. | 11:16 |
| SuperMatt | Your contribution is | 11:16 |
| SuperMatt | but the employer also contributes | 11:16 |
| SuperMatt | at least, that's what I've always been lead to believe | 11:17 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 11:20 |
| bigcalm | Hi davmor2 | 11:22 |
| MooDoo | morning davmor2 | 11:26 |
| davmor2 | hey bigcalm MooDoo :) | 11:26 |
| SuperMatt | all right, my work PC is now buttered | 11:49 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| diddledan | SuperMatt: and jam? | 12:06 |
| SuperMatt | no, just btrfs | 12:06 |
| popey | http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/uva-the-linux-powered-games-console lol | 12:28 |
| popey | SuperMatt: yay | 12:28 |
| popey | brave | 12:28 |
| SuperMatt | I know :/ | 12:29 |
| mungbean | sounds a bit like ouya | 12:29 |
| SuperMatt | It can't be *that* bad when you consider how many distros are now adding it as an option | 12:29 |
| mungbean | and a bit ...biological. | 12:29 |
| popey | 5 million though | 12:30 |
| SuperMatt | and no one is going to say if it's production ready or not until *someone* bothers using it in production! | 12:30 |
| mungbean | looks like a stretched wii | 12:30 |
| mungbean | steam console will be re-purposable i'm sure | 12:31 |
| bigcalm | Anybody got a how to record skype calls handy? | 12:38 |
| directhex | FREAKING WIFI | 12:43 |
| directhex | <directhex> popey, those gpu specs don't exist | 12:43 |
| directhex | <directhex> the memory bandwidth and clock rate say Radeon HD 7950 Boost | 12:43 |
| directhex | <directhex> <directhex> also use of the term "stream processors" means AMD | 12:44 |
| directhex | <directhex> <directhex> but that's not a number of streams on any AMD GPU | 12:44 |
| directhex | <directhex> <directhex> oh | 12:44 |
| directhex | <directhex> <directhex> cpu is an amd a10-5800k | 12:44 |
| directhex | <directhex> <directhex> so he's adding together on-die gpu plus discrete gpu | 12:44 |
| directhex | <directhex> <directhex> in theory the latest version of fglrx supports this behaviour | 12:44 |
| directhex | <directhex> <directhex> basically, http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/05/04 | 12:44 |
| popey | haha | 12:45 |
| popey | bigcalm: skype call recorder, works fine | 12:45 |
| bigcalm | Just found it and it works for me as well | 12:45 |
| bigcalm | popey: thanks :) | 12:45 |
| popey | np | 12:45 |
| Myrtti | oh man | 12:52 |
| Myrtti | sister's cat had been found dead in their garden | 12:52 |
| Myrtti | she called me in hysterics about an hour ago | 12:52 |
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| mgdm | awwww, no | 12:53 |
| diddledan | :-( | 12:53 |
| popey | ☹ | 12:56 |
| mungbean | :( natural causes? | 12:56 |
| Myrtti | probably not, he was barely a year old | 12:57 |
| mungbean | oh :( | 12:57 |
| daftykins | never forget the day i saw one of a pair of kittens we had trying to walk back to the house but she couldn't co-ordinate herself | 13:01 |
| daftykins | i think it was a brain tumour in the end | 13:01 |
| daftykins | poor little thing | 13:01 |
| === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away | ||
| === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk | ||
| davmor2 | popey: do you have a saucy pc knocking about? If so could you open USC and let me know if the for purchase section is filling up nicely please :) | 14:13 |
| popey | ya | 14:14 |
| popey | it is | 14:15 |
| davmor2 | popey: \o/ ta | 14:15 |
| davmor2 | popey: only 830 to go | 14:16 |
| popey | oof | 14:16 |
| popey | Be nice when we switch to click packages for the desktop :D | 14:16 |
| * AlanBell starts USC | 14:19 | |
| * AlanBell taps fingers and stares at a grey window | 14:20 | |
| * AlanBell wonders if it is doing anything | 14:20 | |
| AlanBell | oh, it crashed :( | 14:20 |
| popey | took a second or two here | 14:21 |
| popey | 3 seconds | 14:21 |
| AlanBell | ok, it runs from the command line | 14:22 |
| AlanBell | and now it starts in 5 seconds or so from the launcher | 14:22 |
| brobostigon | usc? | 14:22 |
| AlanBell | software-centre | 14:23 |
| brobostigon | ah. | 14:23 |
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| davmor2 | popey: indeed | 14:24 |
| daftykins | i find as i get older i forget which spellings are the US and which are the British variant :< | 14:24 |
| diddledan | daftykins: then you're using the americam variety :-p | 14:25 |
| daftykins | american cameras? :> | 14:25 |
| diddledan | lol | 14:25 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/ap43ou27y3lyx7i/IMG_20130926_135040.jpg | 14:25 |
| diddledan | single finger typing | 14:25 |
| daftykins | found this little guy hanging from my specs before | 14:25 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: yeah, cameras that send everything to the NSA ;) | 14:26 |
| daftykins | MartijnVdS: please, that was so last month :( | 14:28 |
| MartijnVdS | daftykins: unfortunately, it's also this month | 14:28 |
| daftykins | and beyond! | 14:29 |
| === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g | ||
| mungbean | bash emergency! | 14:42 |
| MartijnVdS | mungbean: What's up? | 14:42 |
| mungbean | cat bulk.csv|while IFS=, read firstname surname email username | 14:42 |
| mungbean | do ./test.pl "$firstname" "$surname" $email $username | 14:42 |
| mungbean | done | 14:42 |
| mungbean | my test runs over the whole csv file | 14:42 |
| mungbean | when i run it against a longer useradd script if only works for the first name in the list | 14:43 |
| mungbean | any ideas? | 14:46 |
| MartijnVdS | I'd teach the perl script to do the split (using something like Text::CSV_XS, or just plain "split") | 14:46 |
| mungbean | yes, but i'mnot v good at perl and time is of the essence :( | 14:47 |
| MartijnVdS | mungbean: my ($firstname, $surname, $email, $username) = split /,/, $ARGV[0]; | 14:47 |
| MartijnVdS | or similar | 14:47 |
| mungbean | ( $fn, $sn, $email, $username ) = @ARGV; | 14:48 |
| mungbean | i use that in the perl script | 14:48 |
| MartijnVdS | replace @ARGV with "split /,/, $ARGV[0]" | 14:48 |
| mungbean | then which argument do i pass to the pl script? | 14:49 |
| MartijnVdS | and go: for x in `cat file`; do perl foo.pl $x; done | 14:49 |
| mungbean | thanks, i'll try! | 14:49 |
| mungbean | what was i doing wrong? | 14:49 |
| MartijnVdS | I have no idea, I'm baffled by harder shell code :) | 14:49 |
| MartijnVdS | (yet I know perl..) | 14:49 |
| mungbean | hmm..doens't work | 14:52 |
| diddledan | I really want to work out perl's more complex capabilities like redefining language constructs | 14:52 |
| diddledan | having a language that can be entirely different just by loading a module sounds really fun to master | 14:53 |
| mungbean | doesn't like it if a field is joe,bloggs senior,email,user | 14:53 |
| diddledan | mungbean: try quoting $x in the do perl foo.pl "$x" | 14:53 |
| mungbean | nope | 14:54 |
| diddledan | shell expansions are a black art | 14:54 |
| mungbean | its the way the perl is splitting it | 14:54 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan: you don't want that in Perl, source filters are considered evil, and the new way to do it (manipulating the parse/optrees) is a bit of a black art | 15:10 |
| mungbean | is the problem with my read line? | 15:16 |
| diddledan__ | oddness. one of my external discs (I think) is causing IO to grind to a halt on my mac | 15:26 |
| daftykins | D: | 15:27 |
| daftykins | SMART status all green? | 15:27 |
| diddledan__ | does SMART work over usb? | 15:28 |
| MartijnVdS | sometimes | 15:28 |
| diddledan__ | and.. I can't check because my mac is unresponsive | 15:29 |
| diddledan__ | I've got this terminal as the only functionable app | 15:29 |
| diddledan__ | and irssi is running on a separate host | 15:29 |
| daftykins | XD | 15:31 |
| daftykins | my file server was freezing recently, in the early hours of the morning two saturdays in a row | 15:32 |
| daftykins | turned it off, (a rare thing) reseated each disk connector and it's been fine since | 15:32 |
| diddledan | and we just shut down with no warning - beyond a KP it was a hard power cycle without the friendly panic grey-screen-of-death | 15:36 |
| diddledan | I reported the issue to apple | 15:36 |
| daftykins | hah | 15:42 |
| daftykins | how very optimistic of you, sir | 15:42 |
| diddledan | it was their automatic crash reporting mechanism - I'm not expecting any return | 15:42 |
| daftykins | i disable the Windows one ^_^ | 15:42 |
| diddledan | yeah, I would disable this one, but it's not pirated :-p | 15:43 |
| diddledan | (and/or I wasn't watching pr0n at the time of the crash) :-p | 15:50 |
| zleap | lol | 15:59 |
| mungbean | MartijnVdS: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/089 | 15:59 |
| mungbean | was my solution | 15:59 |
| mungbean | had to add </dev/null | 15:59 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| Azelphur | Hmm, nginx is being a tad stupid, I've set it up to basic auth my phpmyadmin install, it prompts for a password, and when you hit cancel, it just lets you in anyway. | 16:04 |
| * Azelphur facedsks | 16:04 | |
| daftykins | whoopsie 884 1 0 Sep25 ? 00:00:00 whoopsie | 16:15 |
| daftykins | ^ is that a known thing? O_O | 16:15 |
| daftykins | it's in my ps -ef output from a 12.04 VM | 16:16 |
| daftykins | (server) | 16:16 |
| popey | yeah | 16:18 |
| popey | it gathers crashdumps | 16:18 |
| daftykins | ah ok :) | 16:18 |
| daftykins | thanks | 16:18 |
| popey | it's half of whoopsie-daisy | 16:18 |
| daftykins | XD | 16:18 |
| popey | daisy being the backend | 16:18 |
| daftykins | i'm playing with multi-user screen sessions | 16:19 |
| popey | ☻ | 16:19 |
| SuperMatt | I'm playing with lxc and I'm probably going to replace all my VMs with it | 16:19 |
| BigRedS | Ah yeah, containers are brilliant | 16:19 |
| BigRedS | for some things | 16:19 |
| SuperMatt | well, most of the time I just need some kind of environment for testing conf changes | 16:19 |
| SuperMatt | containers are *perfect* for that | 16:20 |
| BigRedS | yeah | 16:20 |
| BigRedS | I used VZ for a bit, but for some reason I use KVM now | 16:20 |
| BigRedS | well, virt-manager | 16:20 |
| * SuperMatt nods | 16:20 | |
| SuperMatt | I'm using that too for my windows 7 vms | 16:20 |
| SuperMatt | because I can't escape that | 16:20 |
| SuperMatt | but it's going to be nice to remove virtualbox | 16:20 |
| BigRedS | yeah, I stopped using VB because i didn't like the word 'Oracle' being everywhere | 16:21 |
| SuperMatt | I don't like it either | 16:21 |
| diddledan | I don't like the word oracle even existing in relation to a company - the whole thing is the opposite of google - they have the mantra of "do lots of evil" | 16:22 |
| diddledan | I _hate_ that mysql and bdb and various other databases are all shoehorned into oracle ownership | 16:23 |
| SuperMatt | hurrr | 16:23 |
| SuperMatt | that's true | 16:23 |
| SuperMatt | but I'm now using maria | 16:23 |
| diddledan | effectively if it's sql and not microsoft then it's oracle | 16:24 |
| diddledan | although I think postgres is still standalone? | 16:24 |
| SuperMatt | it is | 16:24 |
| SuperMatt | and I would love to move a lot of my stuff there | 16:24 |
| SuperMatt | but a lot of my stuff only uses mysql -.- | 16:24 |
| diddledan | I've never worked out how to use postgres | 16:24 |
| SuperMatt | it's quite simple when you work your head around the security | 16:25 |
| SuperMatt | I don't think the ubuntu blog explains it very well, but then again, I don't think anyone can explain it particularly well | 16:25 |
| diddledan | yeah, I recall the security blocking me and me saying foo this | 16:25 |
| diddledan | this was many years ago now tho | 16:26 |
| Azelphur | does anyone know why the user created by these mysql queries cannot login? http://pastebin.com/KzbyuKAR | 16:28 |
| Azelphur | I get access denied when trying to mysql -ualex -pPassword | 16:28 |
| diddledan | Azelphur: you have a user account for ""@localhost which isn't allowed to login which gets matched first | 16:28 |
| diddledan | replace the % with localhost and you'll be set | 16:29 |
| Azelphur | ah I see | 16:29 |
| diddledan | you may need both @localhost and @% if you need to connect remotely | 16:29 |
| diddledan | in addition to locally | 16:30 |
| diddledan | damn my enter-key-happy pinkie finger! | 16:30 |
| Azelphur | locally is fine really, I should have set locally to start with | 16:32 |
| BigRedS | % matches localhost | 16:35 |
| diddledan | BigRedS: yes, but localhost matches localhost first | 16:36 |
| BigRedS | oh | 16:41 |
| BigRedS | yeah | 16:41 |
| BigRedS | There's only about 20 lines of context and I still missed it... | 16:41 |
| AlanBell | !info libxmlrpc-c3 | 16:46 |
| lubotu3 | Package libxmlrpc-c3 does not exist in quantal | 16:46 |
| AlanBell | so that appears to have gone, and I want it :( | 16:46 |
| AlanBell | !info libxmlrpc-c3-dev | 16:47 |
| lubotu3 | libxmlrpc-c3-dev (source: xmlrpc-c): lightweight RPC library based on XML and HTTP [transitional package]. In component main, is optional. Version 1.16.33-3.1ubuntu6 (quantal), package size 5 kB, installed size 36 kB | 16:47 |
| AlanBell | but that is still there, wassup with that? | 16:47 |
| bigcalm | !info libxmlrpc-c | 16:47 |
| lubotu3 | Package libxmlrpc-c does not exist in quantal | 16:47 |
| diddledan | maybe the binary failed to build? | 16:47 |
| AlanBell | !info libxmlrpc-core-c3 | 16:48 |
| lubotu3 | libxmlrpc-core-c3 (source: xmlrpc-c): lightweight RPC library based on XML and HTTP [C runtime libraries]. In component main, is optional. Version 1.16.33-3.1ubuntu6 (quantal), package size 177 kB, installed size 468 kB | 16:48 |
| AlanBell | so, now we have -core-c3, but I have a package that depends on the original thing (if in fact they are the same) | 16:48 |
| diddledan | shouldn't -core-c3 "provide" -c3? | 16:49 |
| diddledan | that way it can still be satisfactory in terms of reverse dependencies | 16:49 |
| AlanBell | I think it probably should | 16:54 |
| diddledan | I don't get why it would have been renamed anywho | 16:56 |
| AlanBell | Replaces: libxmlrpc-c3, libxmlrpc-c3-0, libxmlrpc-core-c3-0 | 16:57 |
| AlanBell | so it has a replaces line, but not a provides | 16:57 |
| diddledan | my naïveté says that replaces should be "good enough" for dpkg to say the package is installed | 16:59 |
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| diddledan | I'm betting that there's a reason it doesn't | 16:59 |
| AlanBell | https://wiki.debian.org/Renaming_a_Package | 16:59 |
| diddledan | alan_g|EOD: EOD? End of Dave? | 16:59 |
| diddledan | reah, method 2 has been traditionally what ubuntu has used | 17:01 |
| diddledan | yeah* | 17:01 |
| diddledan | afaict from anecdotal evidence | 17:01 |
| diddledan | things like the rename of flash-player to flash-plugin-installer for e.g. | 17:02 |
| AlanBell | downloaded the deb and did a dpkg -i --force-depends on it | 17:11 |
| === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away | ||
| AlanBell | woot! | 17:13 |
| MartijnVdS | woot? | 18:17 |
| ali1234 | bigcalm: i got that QML camera working - it is packaged in ubuntu | 18:43 |
| bigcalm | ali1234: humm? | 18:44 |
| ali1234 | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtmultimedia/multimediawidgets-declarative-camera.html | 18:44 |
| bigcalm | Ah | 18:44 |
| * bigcalm grumbles at learning another language | 18:45 | |
| kecskebak | Blimey, Kubuntu has got Xye in the repository - I love this game! It's very like the BBC Micro game XOR. | 18:45 |
| ali1234 | it's in qtmobility-examples | 18:45 |
| ali1234 | it's only QML | 18:45 |
| bigcalm | I got the camera working in Ubuntu Touch. On the desktop it was fine. On the Galaxy Nexus, the image was sideways :) | 18:47 |
| ali1234 | sideways? | 18:48 |
| bigcalm | Sideways | 18:48 |
| ali1234 | how can it be sideways? | 18:48 |
| bigcalm | Rotated 90 deg | 18:48 |
| ali1234 | in the preview you mean? | 18:48 |
| bigcalm | It was only a quick test | 18:48 |
| ali1234 | is running on gnex a requirement? | 18:48 |
| bigcalm | Throwing the video thingy onto a page | 18:49 |
| bigcalm | No, just amused me | 18:49 |
| ali1234 | ubuntu touch is QML so it will do the same thing | 18:49 |
| ali1234 | probably | 18:49 |
| bigcalm | I'm going to be running it off a laptop and displayed on a 10" touch screen | 18:49 |
| ali1234 | QML is really perfect for kiosk style apps like this | 18:50 |
| ali1234 | it is exactly what it is designed for | 18:50 |
| ali1234 | assuming the Qt backend works, which it usually does | 18:50 |
| bigcalm | I need to give it another shot. Been worn down by work recently | 18:50 |
| ali1234 | what do you actually need aside from "press button, take photo"? | 18:51 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: instagram filters, "digital zoom" (crop & scale up) ? | 18:51 |
| MartijnVdS | flash on/off | 18:52 |
| MartijnVdS | /auto | 18:52 |
| ali1234 | the qml camera has flash on/off/auto | 18:52 |
| ali1234 | but not zoom/filters | 18:52 |
| ali1234 | those can of course be done afterwards | 18:52 |
| bigcalm | Video display of subject. Button to take photo. Count down before actually taking photo. Photo appears next to video with the option to discard. Repeat 4 times | 18:54 |
| bigcalm | Repeat per session | 18:54 |
| ali1234 | it doesn't have a countdown and there is no option to discard | 18:55 |
| ali1234 | but it has all the rest | 18:55 |
| bigcalm | I found an android app that does just that as described | 18:55 |
| bigcalm | It displayed the last 4 images taken and then starts a new session? | 18:56 |
| bigcalm | displays | 18:56 |
| ali1234 | no, it just saves every photo you take and runs indefinitely | 18:56 |
| ali1234 | it shows the photo after you take it though | 18:56 |
| ali1234 | but full screen | 18:56 |
| ali1234 | oh apparently it has zoom too | 18:59 |
| bigcalm | I'll give it a go in a bit | 19:00 |
| bigcalm | Sadly my 10" touch screen is at my parents' place. So will have to hope that laptop screen works for now | 19:00 |
| ali1234 | you probably need multitouch so you can pinch to zoom | 19:00 |
| ali1234 | there's no button for it that i can see | 19:01 |
| bigcalm | Not too interested in zooming. This is the screen: http://www.chalk-elec.com/?page_id=1280#!/~/product/category=3094861&id=14647624 | 19:02 |
| bigcalm | "multi-points" wonder if that means multi-touch | 19:03 |
| ali1234 | yeah it does | 19:04 |
| * bigcalm ponders nipping to down the M5 at the weekend to get the touch screen back | 19:10 | |
| bigcalm | Telford -> Wolverhampton -> Worcester -> Shrewsbury -> Telford | 19:11 |
| bigcalm | Humm | 19:11 |
| bigcalm | How does one set *.md to be opened in ReText? | 19:45 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: uhh.. | 19:46 |
| bigcalm | Yeah, I'm not seeing it either :) | 19:46 |
| === Guest99809 is now known as webpigeon | ||
| MartijnVdS | mailcap? mime.types? | 19:46 |
| MartijnVdS | bigcalm: /etc/gnome/defaults.list seems to do what you want | 19:47 |
| MartijnVdS | but that's system-wide | 19:48 |
| MartijnVdS | there must be a way to do it in ~ | 19:48 |
| bigcalm | I'm happy for it to be system wide for my workstation. But I agree, there should be a per user option | 19:48 |
| MartijnVdS | probably http://askubuntu.com/questions/154906/which-default-list-should-i-modify-for-default-applications-and-what-are-the-dif | 19:50 |
| bigcalm | Right click, open with, select ReText | 19:51 |
| bigcalm | It's then associated with it | 19:51 |
| bigcalm | Magic! | 19:51 |
| MartijnVdS | magic! | 19:53 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| diddledan | http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/26/4772680/bill-gates-admits-ctrl-alt-del-was-a-mistake#! yey | 23:31 |
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