[06:37] <MartijnVdS>   morning everyone
[08:32] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:34] <AlanBell> morning
[08:35] <TheOpenSourcerer> Morning? It's nearly afternoon already!
[08:36] <popey> pip pip
[08:36] <bigcalm> Yes. It's nearly time for Shropgeek tomorrow morning
[08:37] <bigcalm> A sort of day off work
[08:41] <AlanBell> anyone know about SIP proxies?
[08:42] <AlanBell> I want to have something between handsets and an external SIP PBX that can pick up the inbound callerID and can initiate an outbound call
[08:45] <bigcalm> AlanBell: *?
[08:45] <bigcalm> AlanBell: of which I know diddly squat
[08:46] <AlanBell> that is one possibility, however it is kind of for people who don't want a local PBX
[08:49] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy European Day of Languages! :-D
[08:57] <bigcalm> JamesTait: Och aye the noo?
[08:57] <JamesTait> Aye!
[08:57]  * bigcalm attempts to bait mgdm
[09:01] <MooDoo> morning all
[09:03] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[09:26] <popey> \o/ http://popey.mooo.com/minecraft/   \o/ British Isles map
[09:27] <mgdm> ?lastlog mgdm
[09:27] <mgdm> oops
[09:27] <mgdm> oh, it was bigcalm
[09:27] <mgdm> remind me to abuse him later
[09:28] <bigcalm> Bwuhaha
[09:30] <bigcalm> popey: your connection being hammered now?
[09:30] <popey> a bit
[09:30] <popey> not too bad
[09:31]  * Seeker` wants to see BW graphs :P
[09:32] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6158042/
[09:34] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6158047/ more history
[09:37] <popey> i suspect there are a few people trying to find their own house on it
[09:37] <MooDoo> popey: give everyone access to your minecraft map so ubuntu users can build a house or something at their location :D
[09:37] <popey> its open access
[09:37] <MooDoo> cool
[09:38] <popey> same hostname
[09:41] <bigcalm> I'm in the sea
[09:41] <bigcalm> Which is 1 block deep
[09:42] <popey> you spawn in the solent
[09:42] <popey> between southampton water and the isle of wight
[09:42] <bigcalm> Yes
[09:42]  * popey opped bigcalm
[09:42] <bigcalm> Aww, I left
[09:43] <popey> i know ☻
[09:46] <bigcalm> Big Brother is watching
[10:26] <popey> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Region-SIM-Lock-bei-Samsungs-Galaxy-Note-3-1967044.html  lol samsung
[10:26] <popey> region locking phones
[10:28] <bigcalm> Wah, that's horrible
[10:29] <bigcalm> I wonder at what level that would be enforced. If one were able to run Ubuntu Touch on it, would it then work with any sim for instance?
[10:30] <mungbean> what samsung don't need to do this
[10:32] <mungbean> kiddies first day at nursery today...he's just a tad excited
[10:32] <popey> hehe
[10:32] <popey> bigcalm: dunno if it's done internally in the firmware
[10:34] <mgdm> bigcalm: I think it's done in the 'baseband' bit (the bit that handles the air interface, as I understand it)
[10:37] <gordonjcp> it may be that the RF strip only handles EU frequencies
[10:38] <mungbean> any perlverts here?
[10:38] <mungbean> in bash i can do:
[10:38] <mungbean>  cat users.csv.3|while IFS=, read firstname surname email username
[10:38] <mungbean>  do echo "$firstname|$surname|$email|$username"
[10:38] <mungbean> done
[10:39] <mungbean> how can i hack this into a perl script
[10:39] <mungbean> the perl script already exists to create user accounts, taking arguments interactively on the command line
[10:40] <mungbean> i want to either call the perl script with parameters or inesrt the loop in the perl script
[10:43] <SuperMatt> oh god
[10:43] <SuperMatt> I wanted to type renice
[10:43] <SuperMatt> ended up typing remince
[10:49] <mungbean> ok think i fixed my poblem by passing command line params to perl
[10:51] <popey> directhex: thanks for the air tips, helped the guy test his app and he's going to update his kickstarter to reflect linux support...
[10:51] <mungbean> \o/
[10:52] <popey> although he's currently trending towards ~54% of his goal ☹
[10:52] <popey> http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/770576827/color-0/
[10:53] <popey> \o/ Jabber
[10:53] <MattJ> Jabber \o/
[10:53] <SuperMatt> I just typed remince again >.<
[10:54] <directhex> popey, i don't really have an understanding of the cost of development of a game on that scale, so i can't make an informed decision on whether to back it
[10:54] <mungbean> popey: anything like http://www.amazon.com/Trinket-Studios-Inc-Color-Sheep/dp/B00DY8TLA0 ?
[10:54] <bigcalm> Shame about the spelling
[10:54] <directhex> popey, for every game kickstarter, i ask myself "how long will this take? how many people? how much am i effectively paying them?" - if the numbers don't add up, i don't back
[10:55] <popey> tbh it looks mostly done
[10:55] <popey> game mechanics wise, needs loads more levels
[10:55] <AlanBell> the framework is done, lots of interesting levels need designing
[10:55] <popey> and there's some glitchy UI issues
[10:56] <popey> interestingly it offers mouse or joypad to play
[10:56] <popey> I used trackpoint which was way nicer
[10:56] <dogmatic69> popey: I lol'ed at 'one horsepower'
[10:56] <popey> felt like I really had direct control of the character with my finger
[10:56] <popey> ☻
[10:56] <AlanBell> I will probably back it when it updates with linux support
[10:56] <popey> by "linux support" it means "install an outdated version of Adobe Air"
[10:56] <popey> which works
[10:57] <popey> but is a bit bleh
[10:57] <popey> works well on my 1080p display i7, it's not exactly taxing
[11:01] <popey> dogmatic69: that reply is getting a surprising number of faves and RT's
[11:03] <dogmatic69> well JC has 2m + followers
[11:03] <dogmatic69> and it was pretty funny imo
[11:04] <mungbean> despite being a womanising cheat
[11:05] <popey> lunchtime!
[11:05] <dogmatic69> popey: about 2 or 3 already with the same response, yours was first though :
[11:05] <popey> \o/
[11:05] <directhex> popey, i guess i don't know what £5 is paying for. graph suggests about £2k4 on game development? what does that *mean*?
[11:05] <directhex> er, £5k
[11:05] <directhex> a full-time junior programmer for a month?
[11:05] <dogmatic69> where do junior devs get £5k per month?
[11:06] <dogmatic69> that is £60k pa
[11:07] <SuperMatt> oh most of it will go to the HR department
[11:07] <SuperMatt> because hiring a junior means they saved so much money, those savings go to their bonuses
[11:08] <dogmatic69> IT job watch says otherwise http://awesomescreenshot.com/0c21rb7801
[11:10] <directhex> dogmatic69, 2.4k on development costs, not 5k
[11:10] <directhex> dogmatic69, and the cost of hiring an employee is about double his or her salary alone - taxes, estates costs, equipment costs, etc
[11:11] <dogmatic69> taxes?
[11:12] <SuperMatt> well the employer has to contribute to national insurance
[11:12] <mgdm> NI contributions etc
[11:16] <dogmatic69> NI is deducted from the gross salary, HMRC "The amount you earn before tax and National Insurance are deducted is your 'gross salary'."
[11:16] <dogmatic69> so no cost to the company over and above the salary.
[11:16] <SuperMatt> Your contribution is
[11:16] <SuperMatt> but the employer also contributes
[11:17] <SuperMatt> at least, that's what I've always been lead to believe
[11:20] <davmor2> Morning all
[11:22] <bigcalm> Hi davmor2
[11:26] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[11:26] <davmor2> hey bigcalm MooDoo :)
[11:49] <SuperMatt> all right, my work PC is now buttered
[12:06] <diddledan> SuperMatt: and jam?
[12:06] <SuperMatt> no, just btrfs
[12:28] <popey> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/uva-the-linux-powered-games-console  lol
[12:28] <popey> SuperMatt: yay
[12:28] <popey> brave
[12:29] <SuperMatt> I know :/
[12:29] <mungbean> sounds a bit like ouya
[12:29] <SuperMatt> It can't be *that* bad when you consider how many distros are now adding it as an option
[12:29] <mungbean> and a bit ...biological.
[12:30] <popey> 5 million though
[12:30] <SuperMatt> and no one is going to say if it's production ready or not until *someone* bothers using it in production!
[12:30] <mungbean> looks like a stretched wii
[12:31] <mungbean> steam console will be re-purposable i'm sure
[12:38] <bigcalm> Anybody got a how to record skype calls handy?
[12:43] <directhex> FREAKING WIFI
 popey, those gpu specs don't exist
 the memory bandwidth and clock rate say Radeon HD 7950 Boost
 <directhex> also use of the term "stream processors" means AMD
 <directhex> but that's not a number of streams on any AMD GPU
 <directhex> oh
 <directhex> cpu is an amd a10-5800k
 <directhex> so he's adding together on-die gpu plus discrete gpu
 <directhex> in theory the latest version of fglrx supports this behaviour
 <directhex> basically, http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/05/04
[12:45] <popey> haha
[12:45] <popey> bigcalm: skype call recorder, works fine
[12:45] <bigcalm> Just found it and it works for me as well
[12:45] <bigcalm> popey: thanks :)
[12:45] <popey> np
[12:52] <Myrtti> oh man
[12:52] <Myrtti> sister's cat had been found dead in their garden
[12:52] <Myrtti> she called me in hysterics about an hour ago
[12:53] <mgdm> awwww, no
[12:53] <diddledan> :-(
[12:56] <popey> ☹
[12:56] <mungbean> :( natural causes?
[12:57] <Myrtti> probably not, he was barely a year old
[12:57] <mungbean> oh :(
[13:01] <daftykins> never forget the day i saw one of a pair of kittens we had trying to walk back to the house but she couldn't co-ordinate herself
[13:01] <daftykins> i think it was a brain tumour in the end
[13:01] <daftykins> poor little thing
[14:13] <davmor2> popey: do you have a saucy pc knocking about?  If so could you open USC and let me know if the for purchase section is filling up nicely please :)
[14:14] <popey> ya
[14:15] <popey> it is
[14:15] <davmor2> popey: \o/ ta
[14:16] <davmor2> popey: only 830 to go
[14:16] <popey> oof
[14:16] <popey> Be nice when we switch to click packages for the desktop :D
[14:19]  * AlanBell starts USC
[14:20]  * AlanBell taps fingers and stares at a grey window
[14:20]  * AlanBell wonders if it is doing anything
[14:20] <AlanBell> oh, it crashed :(
[14:21] <popey> took a second or two here
[14:21] <popey> 3 seconds
[14:22] <AlanBell> ok, it runs from the command line
[14:22] <AlanBell> and now it starts in 5 seconds or so from the launcher
[14:22] <brobostigon> usc?
[14:23] <AlanBell> software-centre
[14:23] <brobostigon> ah.
[14:24] <davmor2> popey: indeed
[14:24] <daftykins> i find as i get older i forget which spellings are the US and which are the British variant :<
[14:25] <diddledan> daftykins: then you're using the americam variety :-p
[14:25] <daftykins> american cameras? :>
[14:25] <diddledan> lol
[14:25] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ap43ou27y3lyx7i/IMG_20130926_135040.jpg
[14:25] <diddledan> single finger typing
[14:25] <daftykins> found this little guy hanging from my specs before
[14:26] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: yeah, cameras that send everything to the NSA ;)
[14:28] <daftykins> MartijnVdS: please, that was so last month :(
[14:28] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: unfortunately, it's also this month
[14:29] <daftykins> and beyond!
[14:42] <mungbean> bash emergency!
[14:42] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: What's up?
[14:42] <mungbean>  cat bulk.csv|while IFS=, read firstname surname email username
[14:42] <mungbean>  do ./test.pl "$firstname" "$surname" $email $username
[14:42] <mungbean> done
[14:42] <mungbean> my test runs over the whole csv file
[14:43] <mungbean> when i run it against a longer useradd script if only works for the first name in the list
[14:46] <mungbean> any ideas?
[14:46] <MartijnVdS> I'd teach the perl script to do the split (using something like Text::CSV_XS, or just plain "split")
[14:47] <mungbean> yes, but i'mnot v good at perl and time is of the essence :(
[14:47] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: my ($firstname, $surname, $email, $username) = split /,/, $ARGV[0];
[14:47] <MartijnVdS> or similar
[14:48] <mungbean> ( $fn, $sn, $email, $username ) = @ARGV;
[14:48] <mungbean> i use that in the perl script
[14:48] <MartijnVdS> replace @ARGV with "split /,/, $ARGV[0]"
[14:49] <mungbean> then which argument do i pass to the pl script?
[14:49] <MartijnVdS> and go: for x in `cat file`; do perl foo.pl $x; done
[14:49] <mungbean> thanks, i'll try!
[14:49] <mungbean> what was i doing wrong?
[14:49] <MartijnVdS> I have no idea, I'm baffled by harder shell code :)
[14:49] <MartijnVdS> (yet I know perl..)
[14:52] <mungbean> hmm..doens't work
[14:52] <diddledan> I really want to work out perl's more complex capabilities like redefining language constructs
[14:53] <diddledan> having a language that can be entirely different just by loading a module sounds really fun to master
[14:53] <mungbean> doesn't like it if a field is joe,bloggs senior,email,user
[14:53] <diddledan> mungbean: try quoting $x in the do perl foo.pl "$x"
[14:54] <mungbean> nope
[14:54] <diddledan> shell expansions are a black art
[14:54] <mungbean> its the way the perl is splitting it
[15:10] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: you don't want that in Perl, source filters are considered evil, and the new way to do it (manipulating the parse/optrees) is a bit of a black art
[15:16] <mungbean> is the problem with my read line?
[15:26] <diddledan__> oddness. one of my external discs (I think) is causing IO to grind to a halt on my mac
[15:27] <daftykins> D:
[15:27] <daftykins> SMART status all green?
[15:28] <diddledan__> does SMART work over usb?
[15:28] <MartijnVdS> sometimes
[15:29] <diddledan__> and.. I can't check because my mac is unresponsive
[15:29] <diddledan__> I've got this terminal as the only functionable app
[15:29] <diddledan__> and irssi is running on a separate host
[15:31] <daftykins> XD
[15:32] <daftykins> my file server was freezing recently, in the early hours of the morning two saturdays in a row
[15:32] <daftykins> turned it off, (a rare thing) reseated each disk connector and it's been fine since
[15:36] <diddledan> and we just shut down with no warning - beyond a KP it was a hard power cycle without the friendly panic grey-screen-of-death
[15:36] <diddledan> I reported the issue to apple
[15:42] <daftykins> hah
[15:42] <daftykins> how very optimistic of you, sir
[15:42] <diddledan> it was their automatic crash reporting mechanism - I'm not expecting any return
[15:42] <daftykins> i disable the Windows one ^_^
[15:43] <diddledan> yeah, I would disable this one, but it's not pirated :-p
[15:50] <diddledan> (and/or I wasn't watching pr0n at the time of the crash) :-p
[15:59] <zleap> lol
[15:59] <mungbean> MartijnVdS: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/089
[15:59] <mungbean> was my solution
[15:59] <mungbean> had to add </dev/null
[16:04] <Azelphur> Hmm, nginx is being a tad stupid, I've set it up to basic auth my phpmyadmin install, it prompts for a password, and when you hit cancel, it just lets you in anyway.
[16:04]  * Azelphur facedsks
[16:15] <daftykins> whoopsie   884     1  0 Sep25 ?        00:00:00 whoopsie
[16:15] <daftykins> ^ is that a known thing? O_O
[16:16] <daftykins> it's in my ps -ef output from a 12.04 VM
[16:16] <daftykins> (server)
[16:18] <popey> yeah
[16:18] <popey> it gathers crashdumps
[16:18] <daftykins> ah ok :)
[16:18] <daftykins> thanks
[16:18] <popey> it's half of whoopsie-daisy
[16:18] <daftykins> XD
[16:18] <popey> daisy being the backend
[16:19] <daftykins> i'm playing with multi-user screen sessions
[16:19] <popey> ☻
[16:19] <SuperMatt> I'm playing with lxc and I'm probably going to replace all my VMs with it
[16:19] <BigRedS> Ah yeah, containers are brilliant
[16:19] <BigRedS> for some things
[16:19] <SuperMatt> well, most of the time I just need some kind of environment for testing conf changes
[16:20] <SuperMatt> containers are *perfect* for that
[16:20] <BigRedS> yeah
[16:20] <BigRedS> I used VZ for a bit, but for some reason I use KVM now
[16:20] <BigRedS> well, virt-manager
[16:20]  * SuperMatt nods
[16:20] <SuperMatt> I'm using that too for my windows 7 vms
[16:20] <SuperMatt> because I can't escape that
[16:20] <SuperMatt> but it's going to be nice to remove virtualbox
[16:21] <BigRedS> yeah, I stopped using VB because i didn't like the word 'Oracle' being everywhere
[16:21] <SuperMatt> I don't like it either
[16:22] <diddledan> I don't like the word oracle even existing in relation to a company - the whole thing is the opposite of google - they have the mantra of "do lots of evil"
[16:23] <diddledan> I _hate_ that mysql and bdb and various other databases are all shoehorned into oracle ownership
[16:23] <SuperMatt> hurrr
[16:23] <SuperMatt> that's true
[16:23] <SuperMatt> but I'm now using maria
[16:24] <diddledan> effectively if it's sql and not microsoft then it's oracle
[16:24] <diddledan> although I think postgres is still standalone?
[16:24] <SuperMatt> it is
[16:24] <SuperMatt> and I would love to move a lot of my stuff there
[16:24] <SuperMatt> but a lot of my stuff only uses mysql -.-
[16:24] <diddledan> I've never worked out how to use postgres
[16:25] <SuperMatt> it's quite simple when you work your head around the security
[16:25] <SuperMatt> I don't think the ubuntu blog explains it very well, but then again, I don't think anyone can explain it particularly well
[16:25] <diddledan> yeah, I recall the security blocking me and me saying foo this
[16:26] <diddledan> this was many years ago now tho
[16:28] <Azelphur> does anyone know why the user created by these mysql queries cannot login? http://pastebin.com/KzbyuKAR
[16:28] <Azelphur> I get access denied when trying to mysql -ualex -pPassword
[16:28] <diddledan> Azelphur: you have a user account for ""@localhost which isn't allowed to login which gets matched first
[16:29] <diddledan> replace the % with localhost and you'll be set
[16:29] <Azelphur> ah I see
[16:29] <diddledan> you may need both @localhost and @% if you need to connect remotely
[16:30] <diddledan> in addition to locally
[16:30] <diddledan> damn my enter-key-happy pinkie finger!
[16:32] <Azelphur> locally is fine really, I should have set locally to start with
[16:35] <BigRedS> % matches localhost
[16:36] <diddledan> BigRedS: yes, but localhost matches localhost first
[16:41] <BigRedS> oh
[16:41] <BigRedS> yeah
[16:41] <BigRedS> There's only about 20 lines of context and I still missed it...
[16:46] <AlanBell> !info libxmlrpc-c3
[16:46] <AlanBell> so that appears to have gone, and I want it :(
[16:47] <AlanBell> !info libxmlrpc-c3-dev
[16:47] <AlanBell> but that is still there, wassup with that?
[16:47] <bigcalm> !info libxmlrpc-c
[16:47] <diddledan> maybe the binary failed to build?
[16:48] <AlanBell> !info libxmlrpc-core-c3
[16:48] <AlanBell> so, now we have -core-c3, but I have a package that depends on the original thing (if in fact they are the same)
[16:49] <diddledan> shouldn't -core-c3 "provide" -c3?
[16:49] <diddledan> that way it can still be satisfactory in terms of reverse dependencies
[16:54] <AlanBell> I think it probably should
[16:56] <diddledan> I don't get why it would have been renamed anywho
[16:57] <AlanBell> Replaces: libxmlrpc-c3, libxmlrpc-c3-0, libxmlrpc-core-c3-0
[16:57] <AlanBell> so it has a replaces line, but not a provides
[16:59] <diddledan> my naïveté says that replaces should be "good enough" for dpkg to say the package is installed
[16:59] <diddledan> I'm betting that there's a reason it doesn't
[16:59] <AlanBell> https://wiki.debian.org/Renaming_a_Package
[16:59] <diddledan> alan_g|EOD: EOD? End of Dave?
[17:01] <diddledan> reah, method 2 has been traditionally what ubuntu has used
[17:01] <diddledan> yeah*
[17:01] <diddledan> afaict from anecdotal evidence
[17:02] <diddledan> things like the rename of flash-player to flash-plugin-installer for e.g.
[17:11] <AlanBell> downloaded the deb and did a dpkg -i --force-depends on it
[17:13] <AlanBell> woot!
[18:17] <MartijnVdS> woot?
[18:43] <ali1234> bigcalm: i got that QML camera working - it is packaged in ubuntu
[18:44] <bigcalm> ali1234: humm?
[18:44] <ali1234> http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtmultimedia/multimediawidgets-declarative-camera.html
[18:44] <bigcalm> Ah
[18:45]  * bigcalm grumbles at learning another language
[18:45] <kecskebak> Blimey, Kubuntu has got Xye in the repository - I love this game! It's very like the BBC Micro game XOR.
[18:45] <ali1234> it's in qtmobility-examples
[18:45] <ali1234> it's only QML
[18:47] <bigcalm> I got the camera working in Ubuntu Touch. On the desktop it was fine. On the Galaxy Nexus, the image was sideways :)
[18:48] <ali1234> sideways?
[18:48] <bigcalm> Sideways
[18:48] <ali1234> how can it be sideways?
[18:48] <bigcalm> Rotated 90 deg
[18:48] <ali1234> in the preview you mean?
[18:48] <bigcalm> It was only a quick test
[18:48] <ali1234> is running on gnex a requirement?
[18:49] <bigcalm> Throwing the video thingy onto a page
[18:49] <bigcalm> No, just amused me
[18:49] <ali1234> ubuntu touch is QML so it will do the same thing
[18:49] <ali1234> probably
[18:49] <bigcalm> I'm going to be running it off a laptop and displayed on a 10" touch screen
[18:50] <ali1234> QML is really perfect for kiosk style apps like this
[18:50] <ali1234> it is exactly what it is designed for
[18:50] <ali1234> assuming the Qt backend works, which it usually does
[18:50] <bigcalm> I need to give it another shot. Been worn down by work recently
[18:51] <ali1234> what do you actually need aside from "press button, take photo"?
[18:51] <MartijnVdS> ali1234: instagram filters, "digital zoom" (crop & scale up) ?
[18:52] <MartijnVdS> flash on/off
[18:52] <MartijnVdS>  /auto
[18:52] <ali1234> the qml camera has flash on/off/auto
[18:52] <ali1234> but not zoom/filters
[18:52] <ali1234> those can of course be done afterwards
[18:54] <bigcalm> Video display of subject. Button to take photo. Count down before actually taking photo. Photo appears next to video with the option to discard. Repeat 4 times
[18:54] <bigcalm> Repeat per session
[18:55] <ali1234> it doesn't have a countdown and there is no option to discard
[18:55] <ali1234> but it has all the rest
[18:55] <bigcalm> I found an android app that does just that as described
[18:56] <bigcalm> It displayed the last 4 images taken and then starts a new session?
[18:56] <bigcalm> displays
[18:56] <ali1234> no, it just saves every photo you take and runs indefinitely
[18:56] <ali1234> it shows the photo after you take it though
[18:56] <ali1234> but full screen
[18:59] <ali1234> oh apparently it has zoom too
[19:00] <bigcalm> I'll give it a go in a bit
[19:00] <bigcalm> Sadly my 10" touch screen is at my parents' place. So will have to hope that laptop screen works for now
[19:00] <ali1234> you probably need multitouch so you can pinch to zoom
[19:01] <ali1234> there's no button for it that i can see
[19:02] <bigcalm> Not too interested in zooming. This is the screen: http://www.chalk-elec.com/?page_id=1280#!/~/product/category=3094861&id=14647624
[19:03] <bigcalm> "multi-points" wonder if that means multi-touch
[19:04] <ali1234> yeah it does
[19:10]  * bigcalm ponders nipping to down the M5 at the weekend to get the touch screen back
[19:11] <bigcalm> Telford -> Wolverhampton -> Worcester -> Shrewsbury -> Telford
[19:11] <bigcalm> Humm
[19:45] <bigcalm> How does one set *.md to be opened in ReText?
[19:46] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: uhh..
[19:46] <bigcalm> Yeah, I'm not seeing it either :)
[19:46] <MartijnVdS> mailcap? mime.types?
[19:47] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: /etc/gnome/defaults.list seems to do what you want
[19:48] <MartijnVdS> but that's system-wide
[19:48] <MartijnVdS> there must be a way to do it in ~
[19:48] <bigcalm> I'm happy for it to be system wide for my workstation. But I agree, there should be a per user option
[19:50] <MartijnVdS> probably http://askubuntu.com/questions/154906/which-default-list-should-i-modify-for-default-applications-and-what-are-the-dif
[19:51] <bigcalm> Right click, open with, select ReText
[19:51] <bigcalm> It's then associated with it
[19:51] <bigcalm> Magic!
[19:53] <MartijnVdS> magic!
[23:31] <diddledan> http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/26/4772680/bill-gates-admits-ctrl-alt-del-was-a-mistake#! yey