[00:44] <Omnifrog_> 3D printers are the future http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/09/hugbots-tiny-cars-and-3d-printed-almost-clothes-at-maker-faire/#image-20
[00:50] <Juzzy> haha nice
[00:52] <Juzzy> http://gizmodo.com/5989204/dita-von-teese-flaunts-the-first-3d+printed-dress-you-might-actually-own-someday
[01:29] <Omnifrog> ooh, yes. very nice
[01:31] <Juzzy> well shit
[01:31] <Juzzy> so i had a hdd fail in my raid 5
[01:31] <Juzzy> took it down to replace it
[01:32] <Juzzy> and i guess i booted it with another drive unplugged
[01:32] <Juzzy> so it turned it back off, rewiggled the shit
[01:32] <Juzzy> booted up with all 4 drives
[01:32] <Juzzy> and now i cant get the 3 good drives online to rebuild the 4th
[01:32] <Juzzy> it thinks the one i guess i bumped the power to is a spare
[01:32] <Juzzy> :/
[01:41] <Omnifrog> sounds like fun
[01:43]  * cyberanger wonders what the first 3d gun will look like
[01:43] <cyberanger> I mean, besides the saturday night special that already came & went
[01:53] <Omnifrog> Gnome is removing middle click copy buffer
[01:53] <Omnifrog> lol
[02:04] <cyberanger> why?
[02:04] <cyberanger> makes no sense
[02:08] <wrst> cyberanger: because they needed a feature to remove
[02:11]  * cyberanger repeats his previous statement
[02:15] <wrst> well they didn't rock enough people off when they removed terminal transparency with an update. not a new release but an update
[02:15] <wrst> tick off
[02:15] <wrst> not rock
[02:15] <wrst> silly phone gets me again
[02:16] <Omnifrog> I've never cared for Gnome and this is just another example of why
[02:16] <Omnifrog> they are tards
[02:17] <wrst> it was my go to but it is starting to get stupid
[02:17] <Unit193> Starting? ;)
[02:17] <chris4585> I'm still on cinnamon
[02:17]  * Unit193 spams with http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/ again. :P
[02:17] <chris4585> they usually don't copy the stupid ideas from gnome
[02:18] <Unit193> Cinnamon doesn't seem too bad, but just really isn't for me.
[02:18] <wrst> gnome 3 had a lot of promise start with a stripped down set of features and then add to them..  well they just kept taking them away
[02:18] <Unit193> (So, seems bad to me? :P )
[02:18] <wrst> I like cinnamon OK it's just slow
[02:18] <Unit193> "Oh, we figured you wouldn't shut down unless there was a gnome update, so we added auto-restarts for Gnome updates and removed the menu option" ;P
[02:20] <Omnifrog> I've been KDE since the 90's ( or more light weight DTEs when needed)
[02:25] <wrst> Omnifrog: I'm using kde now because its the most sane one out there at the moment
[02:25] <wrst> other than xfce Unit193 :)
[02:25] <wrst> but I like something that doesn't look like the rear end of a dog by default
[02:25] <Unit193> :)
[02:26] <chris4585> lol
[02:26] <wrst> but xfce can look really nice
[02:26] <Omnifrog> I have KDE, xfce, and E17 in use right now
[02:26] <wrst> I have kde with fluxbox on my laptop and using lxde and xfce on a raspberry pi
[02:27] <Unit193> E17 just doesn't do it for me, seemed a tad...dinky.
[02:27] <Unit193> KDE+flux? ;)
[02:27] <wrst> flux is my fallback
[02:28] <Unit193> So you mean it's got both, not that you replaced kwin with fluxbox. :----D
[02:28] <wrst> I uninstalled gnome completely
[02:28] <wrst> no
[02:28] <wrst> ohh yeah I see how that looked now :)
[02:28] <Unit193> So that is what you mean?
[02:28] <Unit193> :D
[02:28] <Omnifrog> E17 does take a lot of fiddling to get it where you need it to be but over all it's pretty snappy on low powered hardware
[02:29] <Unit193> wrst: Can't argu with default Xfce, even the sites screenshots use Greybird.
[02:29] <Omnifrog> ie. netbooks
[02:29] <wrst> yeah Unit193 why don't they use that by default?
[02:29] <Unit193> I use Xfce on it.
[02:29] <Unit193> wrst: Beats me.
[02:29] <wrst> like gnome2 came with the ugliest default theme and of course every distro out there had a better theme
[02:30] <Omnifrog> ok, I have to retire for the night. See you all after the earth rotates a bit more
[02:30] <Unit193> Coolio.
[02:30] <wrst> night Omnifrog
[02:31] <cyberanger> night Omnifrog
[02:31] <wrst> but really Unit193 are they anti ubuntu so don't want to use the theme?
[02:32] <Unit193> Xfce and Xubuntu rather work together.  Parole, the Xfce player, is actually maintained by two Xubuntu devs.
[02:33] <wrst> weird then
[02:35] <wrst> I'm sure they have their reasons maybe its so other distros don't use that theme for some reason
[02:40] <Unit193> So it's Xfce branding and not Ubuntu?  Yeah, would make sense.  I asked ochosi anyway though.
[02:45] <wrst> and?
[02:49] <Unit193> And he's not on right now so will answer later. :P
[02:50] <wrst> ha OK... goodnight
[08:08] <Unit193> wrst: It'd add a dep on an additional engine for gtk2, murrine.  Once Xfce goes to gtk3 chances are they'd be open to the idea.
[10:21] <wrst> Unit193: I'd think not being ugly by default would be worth that small dependency
[11:38] <wrst> morning Omnifrog!
[11:38] <Omnifrog> morning wrst
[11:40] <wrst> all going well?
[11:41] <Omnifrog> mmm, coffee. the universe is in order so far
[11:41] <wrst> ha ha :)