| Kilos | morning all | 05:42 |
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| Kilos | hi mazal lemonxah Spaceghost | 06:41 |
| lemonxah | lo | 06:41 |
| Kilos | hi Xethron | 07:02 |
| Kilos | morning superfly | 07:03 |
| superfly | good afternoon Kilos | 07:03 |
| Kilos | hehe you also deurmekaar like the pro | 07:03 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 07:19 |
| Squirm | morning | 07:25 |
| Xethron | Hello Kilos | 07:56 |
| Xethron | Hello superfly | 07:56 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm psyatw | 08:49 |
| psyatw | hi Kilos | 08:50 |
| psyatw | hi Squirm | 08:50 |
| superfly | hi Xethron, how goes? | 08:58 |
| Xethron | good good and there? | 09:06 |
| superfly | Well thanks. | 09:07 |
| Kilos | wb mazal wat sukkel jy so? | 09:19 |
| mazal | Hallo oom Kilos | 09:32 |
| mazal | Ag ek is so gatvol vir die kamtige goeie moderne osse | 09:32 |
| Kilos | waarmee sukkel jy man | 09:32 |
| mazal | Alewig iets wat nie werk nie , of werk en volgende dag ophou werk vir geen rede nie | 09:32 |
| Kilos | op 12.04? | 09:33 |
| mazal | Currently my pc refuse to see any pc on the network , including myself | 09:33 |
| Kilos | oh my | 09:33 |
| mazal | 12.04 64bit , updated till today | 09:33 |
| mazal | When going to "Browse network" in nautilus I see nothing | 09:33 |
| Kilos | not router probs? | 09:34 |
| mazal | My own pc and a 2nd pc ( also 12.04) on the same network connected to a router and using dhcp | 09:34 |
| mazal | Router is fine as I have internet access | 09:34 |
| Kilos | ya but isnt it blocking this pc? | 09:34 |
| Kilos | the inbuild firewall or the settings | 09:35 |
| Kilos | try go into it from this pc | 09:35 |
| superfly | mazal: do you have smb-common installed? | 09:36 |
| superfly | and smb-client? | 09:36 |
| mazal | Lemme see hang on | 09:36 |
| mazal | Quickets way to see that ? | 09:36 |
| superfly | mazal: remember, Windows implements TCP/IP on top of NetBEUI (the most arcane way to do things) which is why it can see all the other Windows machines on a network | 09:36 |
| mazal | quickest even ? | 09:36 |
| Kilos | hehe i look in synaptic | 09:36 |
| superfly | mazal: erm, aptitude search smb-common | 09:37 |
| superfly | (or is it "samba-common") | 09:37 |
| superfly | mazal: so all the Windows machines broadcast themselves over NetBEUI | 09:37 |
| mazal | samba-common installed yes | 09:37 |
| superfly | and the Linux boxes, which do things the sane way, don't see the Windows boxes | 09:37 |
| mazal | smb-client no , I have a libsmbclient | 09:37 |
| mazal | I assume that's it | 09:37 |
| superfly | that'll do | 09:37 |
| mazal | Yesterday we saw each other on the network and accessed samba share | 09:38 |
| mazal | Now we can't see my pc | 09:38 |
| mazal | Nothing was added , except java | 09:38 |
| mazal | Can't even see myself :-( | 09:39 |
| mazal | Tried re-installing samba , but didn't help | 09:39 |
| Kilos | smb-client must be installed too | 09:39 |
| mazal | it is | 09:39 |
| Kilos | i even have it here | 09:39 |
| mazal | libsmbclient | 09:40 |
| Kilos | no man not only the lib | 09:40 |
| Kilos | smb-client | 09:40 |
| mazal | " no package named smb-client " | 09:40 |
| mazal | That's what ubuntu says | 09:41 |
| Kilos | smbclient | 09:41 |
| mazal | Already installed | 09:42 |
| Kilos | you have the routers http addy? | 09:42 |
| mazal | Only ip | 09:43 |
| mazal | On it now , what is there that can affect it ? | 09:43 |
| Kilos | you need to read the book. i forget all the stuff in there | 09:44 |
| Kilos | most likely some setting is disabled | 09:45 |
| Kilos | maybe a power cut or something and settings werent saved | 09:46 |
| mazal | I seriously doubt the router can affect samba | 09:48 |
| mazal | It is ging ip's and access correctly | 09:48 |
| mazal | giving | 09:48 |
| Kilos | i dunno then | 09:49 |
| Kilos | need expert help | 09:49 |
| mazal | Can ping both pc's visa versa | 09:52 |
| mazal | Problem now is , with " browse network " not showing any pc's I don't know how to access my samba share :-( | 09:53 |
| Kilos | ai! | 09:53 |
| Kilos | what did you do differently from yesterday | 09:54 |
| mazal | Nothing | 09:54 |
| mazal | Stupid crap software that just stop working for nothing | 09:54 |
| Kilos | was pc connected all the time? | 09:54 |
| mazal | Nope , is shut down at night | 09:54 |
| Kilos | do you have synaptic installed | 09:54 |
| mazal | yep | 09:56 |
| Kilos | when i have probs i use synaptic to reinstall everything in the prob area | 09:57 |
| Kilos | type smbclient in and reinstall them all and watch | 09:57 |
| Kilos | maybe one package has a broken file somewhere | 09:58 |
| mazal | re-installed again , still the same | 10:04 |
| Kilos | oh my | 10:04 |
| mazal | Ok so what is the non-nautilus way to access a samba share ? | 10:04 |
| Kilos | http://askubuntu.com/questions/50197/cannot-connect-to-samba-share-from-nautilus | 10:06 |
| Kilos | is that your prob | 10:06 |
| mazal | Nope , that guy can see pc's and shares , my nautilus sees nothing , not even a pc name | 10:08 |
| Kilos | ai! | 10:10 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google nautilus cant see other pcs or shares on 12.04 | 10:15 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "12.04 - Why I cannot see network shares on nautilus? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/263467/why-i-cannot-see-network-shares-on-nautilus :: "nautilus - share folders between two Ubuntu 12.04 machines - Ask ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/176248/share-folders-between-two-ubuntu-12-04-machines :: "12.04 - Can't see other computer on network - | 10:15 |
| Maaz | Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/198660/cant-see-other-computer-on-network :: "… | 10:15 |
| Kilos | someone else must have had the prob | 10:15 |
| mazal | I found the prob oom Kilos | 10:34 |
| mazal | Lemme show you | 10:34 |
| Kilos | ok | 10:35 |
| Kilos | hi bduk | 10:35 |
| mazal | in etc/samba/smb.conf there is this line : | 10:35 |
| mazal | interfaces = 127.0.0.0/8 eth2 | 10:35 |
| mazal | It was | 10:35 |
| mazal | interfaces = 127.0.0.0/8 eth0 | 10:36 |
| Kilos | aha | 10:36 |
| Kilos | wrong socket | 10:36 |
| mazal | My interface magically changed from eth0 to eth2 | 10:36 |
| Kilos | well done | 10:36 |
| mazal | From yesterday | 10:36 |
| Kilos | but how did it work yesterday | 10:36 |
| mazal | So I changed that in smb.conf , now it works | 10:36 |
| Kilos | well done | 10:36 |
| mazal | So now the question is , why did my interface name change from eth0 to eth2 today ? | 10:37 |
| tumbleweed | did you change your network card? | 10:37 |
| mazal | And what sets that ? | 10:38 |
| mazal | Nope tumbleweed | 10:38 |
| tumbleweed | look at /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules | 10:38 |
| mazal | K I see thanx , 4 defined there | 10:41 |
| mazal | How am I gonna remember this file | 10:41 |
| bduk | Morning evryone | 10:42 |
| Kilos | save it on desktop | 10:42 |
| mazal | So that file binds the interface name to the mac adress upon boot-up yes ? | 10:42 |
| mazal | Shees I even did adress reserving on my router to try and find the problem :-P | 10:48 |
| mazal | Oom Kilos ek is nou ten volle terug op 12.04 en het nou uiteindelik 'n install soos ek wou hê. 1 External drive wat ek op al 3 my pc's mee werk | 11:43 |
| Kilos | mooi | 11:44 |
| Kilos | weet jy hoekom dit vergeet het van eth0 mazal ? | 11:54 |
| mazal | Nope | 11:55 |
| mazal | Logika sê vir my hoekom , daar meer as een entry in daai file van my is | 11:55 |
| mazal | Ek werk op meer as een pc met die install , MAAR , vanaf gister tot nou toe was ek net op die een pc. Dan moes hy gister ook nie gewerk het nie | 11:56 |
| mazal | Ek sal nou maar elke keer net gou kyk wat my interface name is en smb.conf edit en restart vir die dag | 11:56 |
| Kilos | kan die router die interface naam verander? | 11:57 |
| mazal | Nope linuc doen dit | 11:58 |
| mazal | linux even | 11:58 |
| mazal | Hy het al 3 verskillende kaarte in die file ( die 3 verskillende pc's wat die install op werk) | 11:58 |
| Kilos | sommer op sy uie? | 11:58 |
| Kilos | of nm | 11:58 |
| mazal | Ja op sy eie , hy dink dis nuwe kaart wat install is | 11:58 |
| Kilos | eie | 11:58 |
| Kilos | ai! | 11:59 |
| mazal | BV op die pc sal nou elke keer eth2 wees , want die pc se mac adress point soontoe , die router het geen effek op dit nie | 11:59 |
| Kilos | ah | 11:59 |
| mazal | eth0 en 1 het ander macs in , ek neem aan een is my pc by die huis en die ander een is my laptop | 11:59 |
| Kilos | dit gee net ip adresse | 11:59 |
| mazal | Maak als lekker sin , behalwe vir dat hy gister gewerk het , hy moes gister ook nie gewerk het nie | 12:00 |
| Kilos | hehe | 12:00 |
| Kilos | se dankie vit die wandel bossie | 12:00 |
| Kilos | hy baie slim | 12:01 |
| mazal | Jy sien , elke keer as linux 'n nuwe kaart sien dan dink hy dis nuwe kaart wat install is en gaan sit sy mac adress en nuwe interface naam in daai file. | 12:01 |
| mazal | Linux lyk my kannie default na net 1 kaart toe nie | 12:01 |
| mazal | Hy gaan clear nie die huidige entry nie , maar gaan skryf 'n nuwe een met nuwe interface naam | 12:02 |
| Kilos | ah | 12:02 |
| mazal | Dis hoe dit vir my lyk anyway | 12:02 |
| mazal | Mens kan sekerlik die vorige entries gaan uithaal en jou huidige mac by eth0 insit. Ek dink dit sal werk ook | 12:03 |
| mazal | Maar dis net opsie as mens kaart vervang het. Vir my is dit nie opsie nie | 12:03 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 12:04 |
| mazal | So nou het ek uiteindelik 'n "raoming os" soos ek wou hê , maar nou is daar weer ander issue :-P | 12:04 |
| Kilos | hehe | 12:04 |
| mazal | So elke keer wat ek samba nodig het moet ek either die smb.conf gaan edit met daai huidige pc se interface naam , of daai interface file en macs rondskuif. Ek sal die eerste opsie doen , makliker en viniger | 12:05 |
| mazal | En dit sal ook net nodig wees as ek samba by 'n ander pc as die een nodig het. As ek hom net hier gebruik kan dit so bly | 12:06 |
| Kilos | wel darem weet jy nou waar om te soek | 12:06 |
| mazal | Yep | 12:07 |
| mazal | Wat my nou worry is wat anders bind na interface name toe | 12:07 |
| mazal | Want dit als sal dan ook nie werk nie | 12:07 |
| Kilos | ai! | 12:07 |
| mazal | Weet oom dalk waar lê apache se config file ? | 12:19 |
| superfly | anyone else on Afrihost? | 12:20 |
| Kilos | nee mazal ek dom met al daai goed | 12:37 |
| Kilos | weet net waar is /var/cache/apt/archives | 12:37 |
| mazal | hehehe | 12:49 |
| mazal | Ja nee ek soek my ook gewoonlik flou | 12:49 |
| mazal | Enjoy the evening everyone | 12:49 |
| mazal | Cheers | 12:49 |
| Vince-0 | we going to the House4Hack KZN venue tonight! | 13:47 |
| Kilos | whew you get home quick Vince-0 | 15:21 |
| Vince-0 | yes indeed! It is the best part of my day | 15:23 |
| Kilos | hehe | 15:24 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 18:30 |
| magespawn | Good evening | 18:31 |
| superfly | hey magespawn, how goes? | 19:10 |
| * superfly eyes Mezenir | 19:10 | |
| smile | Bye, good night! :) | 19:34 |
| magespawn | Good and yourself superfly | 20:07 |
| magespawn | ? | 20:07 |
| magespawn | Maaz tell Kilos i will be back soon and i am loving opera on my tablet | 20:19 |
| Maaz | magespawn: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode | 20:19 |
| superfly | magespawn: yep, all good here | 20:20 |
| superfly | magespawn: how's the new job going? | 20:20 |
| magespawn | Hectic, and only officially start full time next Tuesday | 20:21 |
| magespawn | Good night all | 20:29 |
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