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ruconseHi, has anyone used cgroups to limit I/O bandwidth?00:00
SonikkuAmerica(at least)00:00
hankySonikkuAmerica, Ive been spending half a day now reading trying to understand. Just didnt think I'd get this 'BIG' problem so early when I switched to ubuntu.00:00
SonikkuAmericahanky: How does 12.04 LTS work for you?00:00
Dr_WillisSonikkuAmerica:  i think that was for 14.x   testing out 13.10 on my desktop and its not using mir by default . but that could be because its a nvidia system00:00
SonikkuAmericaDr_Willis: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/mir-display-server-to-ship-default-in-ubuntu-13-1000:02
OerHeksXmir, not mir00:02
Dr_WillisSonikkuAmerica:  well this netbook is using 13.10 right now.  ;) and as far as i can tell. its not using  mir00:02
Dr_Willisthis is an intel chipset netbook00:02
hankyIt's working well except my graphics card wasn't supported. Got the dual monitors with extended wallpaper working after some time.00:02
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hankyBeen wanting to setup a FTP- and web-server as well in the future. But now I'm getting second toughts, if i can't get real video drivers.00:03
SonikkuAmericaDr_Willis: :) Joey Sneddon's comment about "Goodbye, xorg.conf": "I'm going to print mine out and keep it in a photo frame just for old times sake. Look on it now and again with a glint of nostalgia in my eye. We got so close during all those times I had to wrestle with it to make, pun intended, 'x' work." lol00:03
Dr_Willishanky:  best to not use ftp. stick to ssh00:03
hankyYeah of course. I'll keep that in mind.00:04
hankythanks00:04
Dr_Willishanky:  video and wifi drivers have always been a top 10 problem. even on windows pcs ;)00:04
Dr_Willisi find that slightly older (last years new stuff) tends to be the best value/prefornabce/lease problemns on linux machines00:05
hankyDr_Willis, I remember having problems with my wifi-drivers last time i tried ubuntu. so I believe you.00:05
hankyYeah I really would like to install an older version with xorg 1.12 that works with the legacy-drivers from AMD.00:05
Dr_Willisi have bought several wifi dongles the last year that work in linux and even my linux based Media-Home-theate-devices  with NO hassles.. but in windows. they are a pain.00:05
hankyI try to use WIFI as rarely as possible. Seems like a (still) broken technology. ;)00:06
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Winslerhey00:07
hankyBut what I don't understand is that people on the forums whine that they got the problem when using 12.10 (thus, the upgrade to xorg 1.13 was included). Im using 12.4, and still have xorg 1.13. Strange.00:08
Dr_Willisrarely have issues with wifi any more.  ive found its handy to have a low end-cheap usb wifi dongle that works out of th ebox.. to put on problem laptops - so you can then use wifi to get the drivers for the 'built in/problematic' wifi devices in the laptop00:08
Dr_Willisto be honest with ya.  i dont even Look at ati brand video cards any more. I just say no to them.  ;)00:09
hankyIs NVIDIA much better?00:09
Dr_Willisi have very few if any issues with my 3+ nvidia boxs00:09
Dr_Willisim down to a single ati desktop machine. and it uses the open soruced drivers00:09
WinslerI use NVIDIA and have never had problems00:10
Dr_Willisbut my nvidia machines are all almost 2+ yrs old now00:10
Dr_Williseven my high-end-gaming desktop is 2 yrs old.00:10
hankyOk, with this one was NVIDIA, not AMD. >_<00:11
Dr_Willisin most cases withnvidia - i just boot. install the nvidia-current package. reboot. run nvidia-settings and all is good.00:12
hankyLike in windows, haha its ironic.00:12
iceroothanky: the newest ati drivers are better then the nvidia ones because the open source driver was improved very much but is only a few days old, normally ati and nvidia are bad, because they dont provide usefull free software00:12
Dr_Willisunless its one of those dual-gpu Optimis stuff00:12
hankyMy friends told me it's that way with ubuntu and thats why i installed. And im here with the biggest issue out there. :D00:13
Dr_Willisif its just  'work machine'  most of the intel chipsets can do a fine job these days00:13
hankyiceroot, they seem nice. To bad I had a card in the series 4.00:13
hankyThe series 5 were supported. :-)00:13
icerootand intel has the advantage, the driver is free and open source software00:13
Dr_Willisintel had a few issues here and there over the last few years. i think they have gotten things better in the last year.00:14
hankyI have to use the legacy-driver-package. And its not compatible with xorg 1.13.00:14
icerootit will be really funny with ubuntu 13.10, non free drivers and MIR00:14
SonikkuAmericaWhy is a display server named after a Russian space station anyway?00:14
iceroothanky: and the driver package and xorg are both in the ubuntu repos?00:14
hankyiceroot, you will have to treat me as a newbie because I am.00:15
iceroothanky: which ubuntu version? and where does the driver come from?00:16
hankyThe driver comes from AMD, it's the legacy-driver packade, it supports later cards for what I know. I just installed the stabile LTS 10.4 version of ubuntu.00:17
SonikkuAmericahanky: Do a release upgrade immediately.00:17
icerootSonikkuAmerica: why?00:17
hankyAnd that came with xorg 1.13, and the legacy package wasn't made to with with the upgrade from xorg 1.12 --> 1.13.00:18
SonikkuAmericaiceroot: 10.04 (desktop) is dead.00:18
hankySonikkuAmerica, what do you mean?00:18
iceroot10.04 has also 5 years support for desktop?00:18
kostkonhanky, where did you get that info from00:18
icerootor was it only 12.04?00:18
SonikkuAmericaiceroot: Nope.00:18
SonikkuAmericaiceroot: That schedule started with 12.0400:18
hankyI downloaded it from ubuntus homepage.00:18
SonikkuAmerica!support00:18
ubottuThe official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com00:18
SonikkuAmerica!LTS00:18
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)00:18
icerootSonikkuAmerica: thx00:19
SonikkuAmerica!release-upgrade | hanky00:19
Dr_Willis!versionb00:19
Dr_Willis!version00:19
ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »00:19
Dr_Willisdouble check your version with lsb_release -a . verify what version it truely is00:19
SonikkuAmericaDr_Willis: What's the !command that talks about release upgrading? (Do you know?)00:19
Dr_Willis!upgrade00:19
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade00:19
Dr_Willisif he just did a clean install of 10.04 - I would suggest doing a  new install of a newer reelase00:20
hankyDid that earlier, here it is: Distributor ID:Ubuntu00:20
hankyDescription:Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS00:20
hankyRelease:12.0400:20
vadiHow can I reset appmenu? It is failing to show menus and is hampering productivity.00:20
hankyBut wait a minute, will that solve my problem with my video card, to upgrade to a newer version?00:21
Dr_Willishanky:  so you got 12.04.3   ;) thats the latest lts. there is 13.04 that has newer 'stuff' and 13.10 due out next month00:21
Dr_Willishanky:  i would at least test with 13.04 or 13.10 and see if they work any better00:21
kostkonDr_Willis, 12.04.3 comes with the raring X and kernel00:22
SonikkuAmericavadi: App menu? Can you tell us what !version and !flavor your Ubuntu is?00:22
Dr_Willishanky:  not like its a big deal to get  a newer relase and try with a live-usb00:22
hankyDr_Willis, Okey, I guess it's worth a shot!00:22
kostkonvadi, in which app(s)?00:22
vadiUbuntu 13.04, the default Unity edition00:22
vadiEvince00:22
kostkonvadi, works fine here. what's exactly the problem00:23
Dr_Willisvadi:  you mean the top left 'dash' button  is not showing stuff?00:23
taime1What is the safest way to upgrade ubuntu server 12.04.3 to the latest kernel?00:23
SonikkuAmericataime1: [ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ] should do all the work.00:23
vadiIt works fine here too, except when it decides not work. Yes, the applications menu - which gets moved up - is failing to show. Here is a video: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/151482435/appmenu%20breakdown.mp400:24
Dr_Willistaime1:  latest from kernel.org? or latest in the repos?00:24
taime1Dr_Willis: latest in repo00:24
taime1SonikkuAmerica: i was hoping that was all, just wasnt sure00:24
kostkonvadi, weird. so there's a bug report about it00:25
SonikkuAmericavadi: Have you tried right-clicking the Evince icon in the launcher?00:25
Dr_Willisdis-upgrade should do it taime1  ;)00:25
taime1Dr_Willis: SonikkuAmerica thanks00:25
Dr_Willisbbl00:25
kostkonbug 15148243500:25
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 151482435 could not be found00:25
kostkon:/00:25
vadiSonikkuAmerica: I hadn't. How would that be relevant?00:25
vadiI'll try that next time it happens.00:26
vadikostkon: the bug report is what I just filed.00:26
kostkonvadi, ah ok00:26
SonikkuAmericavadi: It may or may not show at least some common options (similar to the GNOME app menu for a GNOME app, which Evince is)00:26
wissam_Hi , how to know if usb drive is mounted in sync or async mode ?00:27
kostkonwissam_, i think by default everythin is copied asynchronously00:28
wissam_kostkon: I am using ubuntu 13.04 and when copying large data to usb drive makes my laptop freeze completely and i have to hardly restart it so i solved this problem by mounting usb devices in async mode using this command "mount -o remount,async /dev/sdb1"00:30
kostkonwissam_, hmm ok00:31
wissam_so by default sync mode is enabled right?00:31
wissam_but how to know if a usb drive is mounted in sync or async mode?00:32
taime1Would it be safe to upgrade from 3.2.0-53-generic to linux-generic-lts-raring on my 12.04.3 64bit server?00:33
SonikkuAmericataime1: It should be.00:34
taime1great00:34
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fellayaboyanyone know how to configure yafaray for blender....i did sudo apt-get install yafaray and it didnt show up in blender01:00
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fellayaboyhow can i find where a package installed its stuff01:10
ObrienDavefellayaboy... READ http://www.yafaray.org/download01:11
FaryshtaHow do I add ubuntu repos to debian?01:12
vicsar.01:12
Ben64Faryshta: thats asking for trouble and beyond the scope of this channel01:13
liz_ubuntu thinks that my external usb hard drive is a cdrom drive.  It says its write protected.  /dev/sr1 is what the label is.  why is this?01:14
vicsarFaryshta -  Try this: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/45879/how-to-add-repository-from-shell-in-debian01:14
vicsarhttp://linuxappfinder.com/addrepo01:15
vicsar-I haven't read it, and yes. This is out of the scope of the channel01:15
vicsar:-)01:15
vicsarGrammar I fail01:15
vicsar:-)01:15
Faryshtavicsar, thanks01:15
ObrienDavevicsar... you're going to make the "off topic" Gods angry LOL01:15
vicsarYep, am that sort of guy01:16
Faryshtavicsar, and I appreciate your anarchism01:16
vicsarDinner!01:16
vicsarLOL01:16
chaotic_goodno lvm2?01:17
chaotic_goodnew 12.04lts install01:17
chaotic_goodcan ping google01:17
ObrienDaveliz_... what brand os USB drive?01:17
chaotic_goodbut its prod environemnt01:17
ObrienDave*of01:17
chaotic_goodwhy mightapt-get not work?01:17
Dr_Willischaotic_good:  pastebin the error messages it gives would be a good start. 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' also01:18
chaotic_goodPackage lvm2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.01:18
chaotic_goodThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or01:18
chaotic_goodis only available from another source01:18
chaotic_goodE: Package 'lvm2' has no installation candidate01:18
Dr_Willisyou have done a sudo apt-get update/upgrade  then tried it again?01:19
chaotic_goodoow appt-get update sems to have done the trick01:19
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Dr_Willis!find lvm201:19
ubottuFound: liblvm2-dev, liblvm2app2.2, liblvm2cmd2.02, lvm2, libllvm2.901:19
nathrisdoes anybody happen to know why bluetooth-applet was removed from gnome-bluetooth in saucy?01:19
ObrienDave*rolls eyes*01:19
savagecrocok unity has crapped itself01:19
savagecrochow do i restart it?   i tried sudo service gdm restart01:19
zykotick9Faryshta: fyi, mixing debian and ubuntu repos is a terrible idea... just sayin'01:20
dman777_alteranyone use sdlmame?01:21
kruxsavagecroc, sudo service lightdm restart01:21
zykotick9savagecroc: try lightdm01:21
Dr_Willisdman777_alter:  not in years.  ;)01:22
zykotick9dman777_alter: ask your real question, and find out.01:22
Dr_Willis!find sdlmame01:23
ubottuFound: mame, sdlmame, sdlmame-tools01:23
Faryshtazykotick9, ok. I just need ubuntu one then will disable the repos01:23
Dr_Willis!info sdlmame01:23
ubottusdlmame (source: mame): Transitional package for sdlmame. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.146-5 (raring), package size 12 kB, installed size 88 kB01:23
dman777_alterdoes sdlmame have a save state so i can save where i am in the game and return to it later?01:23
Dr_Willisdman777_alter:  it should have the same features as normal mame. I do recall mame having save states01:24
dman777_alterDr_Willis: ah..sux. i hate starting from the beggining everytime i play01:24
Dr_Willishit tab during a game and look at the keybindinds (i recall)01:24
Dr_Willissux? it should have the feature01:24
dman777_alterDr_Willis: did you you advance menu to manage sdlmame?01:24
zykotick9dman777_alter: personaly i hate "save state" saving, but i'm 90% sure it does.01:24
Dr_Willisnot used advancemenu in ages01:24
zykotick9dman777_alter: advmenu rocks!01:24
Dr_Willisi only play a few mame games every so often. ;)01:25
Dr_Willis!info advmenu01:25
ubottuPackage advmenu does not exist in raring01:25
Johnny_LinuxD`oh!01:25
Dr_Willisi just tend to use the mame default interface01:25
dman777_alteri'm new to the arcade emulation in linux. i'm going to buy a video card that will output to my tv. i like nvidia. will sdlmame play nice with it? i really like old arcade games and sdlmame is the reason why i am going to buy a new video card(lost tv connection to my old one)01:26
dman777_alterDr_Willis: isn't the mame default interface command line only?01:26
zykotick9dman777_alter: sdlmame has a gui, but it kinda... well... let's just say i NEVER use it.01:27
dman777_alterDr_Willis: i'm a little confused...did you mean sdlmame? or is there a regular mame for linux also?01:27
zykotick9dman777_alter: sdlmame is your best bet on gnu/linux01:28
dman777_alterzykotick9: ok, cool. thanks. i mostly play snk games.01:28
zykotick9dman777_alter: neogeo rocks!01:28
dman777_alter:)01:28
dman777_alterzykotick9: does sdl play nice with nvidia drivers?01:29
zykotick9dman777_alter: yes.01:29
dman777_altercool01:29
bill__dman777_alter, SDL talks to X and X talks to nVidia.  Therefore SDL doesn't really care about nVidia.  It could be AMD or Intel just as easily and wouldn't bother SDL a bit.01:30
dman777_alterok, cool.01:30
dman777_alterwhat is b est to use a xbox 360 on my linux pc?01:30
dman777_alterfor sdl01:30
Dr_Willisdman777_alter:  xmame has a menu system these days01:31
Dr_Willisit lists the roms, or a random selection with a text/filter item01:31
Dr_Willisdman777_alter:  why are you using sdlmame? xmame should work fine unless its a really really low end box01:31
dman777_alterDr_Willis: ok, cool. i will check that out. this is a project for me so i am planning ahead.01:32
Dr_Willisraspberrypi - has pimame => instant mame machine ;) that can output to rca video out01:32
hankyDr_Willis, efter much searching, the work-around solution that was recommended: "Ubuntu 12.04.3 is not supported."01:32
hankyxD01:32
Dr_Willisfor mame - its best to read the docs.. its a VERY old app and has a lot of history and quirks.   i was suprised it had the menu feature. been so long since i had last used it01:33
dman777_alterDr_Willis: wow, the last development for xmame was 2006...01:33
Dr_Willisdman777_alter:  i dont get how xbox360  figures int o this  ?01:33
Dr_Willisdman777_alter:  i think theres newer versions but th enames may have been changed.01:34
dman777_alterDr_Willis: just the controller...i want to use it on my pc with mame(linux)01:34
Dr_Willisive not kept up with mame news. l;)01:34
Dr_Willisdman777_alter:  i got a Hotrod-SE arcade controller ;)   but most any gamepad should work01:34
dman777_alterwhats a good forum to ask on? i get to many to choose from for googleing01:35
fromzI'm doing bitcoin mining on ubuntu 13.04, but I get hardware errors from my GPU (it uses openCL) a lot of people say the solution is to roll ati catalyst drivers back to 11.x series - has anyone done this and had a non-disasterous result, or know of a tutorial?01:37
Dr_Willisdman777_alter:  i imagine the mame homepage has their own forums01:37
jmunsch_have had this happen on several installs ... the only way for me to get wifi to work is to disable it before i shutdown the computer or when i go to restart. if i do no disable the wifi before i reboot i can not use wifi no matter sudo rfkill or anything with sudo iw dev ... has anyone else experienced this? what could it possibly be ... feel like it's trying to open ten doors in a row ... with all combinations of [fn]+[wifi key] e01:39
jmunsch_tc etc ... any thoughts? it's really annoying ... haha01:39
InFlamesi'm having trouble with roadkill's unstoppable copier on ubuntu 13.04, can anyone help me?01:44
MidnightNinjaCan someone help me with this problem:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/113032601:47
ubottuUbuntu bug 1130326 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "No Certificate Authority Certificate Dialog doesn't receive focus" [Undecided,Confirmed]01:47
MidnightNinjaI cant log onto my universities network01:47
MidnightNinjaAnyone got an idea?01:48
varunendrajmunsch_, which card and driver are you using? (output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net")01:48
wilee-nileeInFlames, Your the first person I have ever seen mention this, a 3rd party app I believe, not many are probably familiar, give some details for help to the channel is all.01:48
varunendraMidnightNinja, have you received any certificate files from your university authorities?01:49
MidnightNinjaNot that I am aware of--let me check01:49
MidnightNinjaon 12.04, i never needed certs though01:49
InFlameswilee-nilee, the problem i am having is really with a library i believe. unstopcp: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS6401:49
zykotick9varunendra: awesome-sauce.  thanks.  that "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net" is very cool.01:49
varunendraMidnightNinja, it is usually a .crt file that you should receive from IT support or some similar authority from your university01:50
InFlamesnow i've downloaded getlibs-all.deb and installed it, and tried to get the library i need, but it says it's not found01:50
MidnightNinjavarundera: they only offer windows and mac certs01:50
varunendrazykotick9, I use it with "vga" too . Cheers !!01:50
wilee-nileeInFlames, I found an old UF thread on it, having not heard of it before, that was mentioned, however no real resolution I believe, you would have to check yourself.01:50
jmunsch_varunendra : Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter  ....   Qualcomm Atheros AR8152 v1.1 Fast Ethernet [1969:2060] (rev c1)01:50
InFlamescan you link? (sadly i've read many things, i think gisting the output will help, so i'm doing that now)01:51
varunendraMidnightNinja, does that certificate mention windows in it?? Sorry I'm not aware of its contents.01:51
zykotick9varunendra: you might want to add v to the lspci for vga (for hybrid cards)01:51
MidnightNinjaThe certs explicitly state windows01:51
MidnightNinjaits funny since I've used fedora and 12.04 perfectly fine before01:52
InFlameswilee-nilee, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/670880501:52
varunendrajmunsch_, please also give me the device ID. Is it [14e4:4727]?01:52
jmunsch_yes01:53
varunendraMidnightNinja, what is your connection's name ?01:53
jmunsch_& [1969:2060]01:53
MidnightNinjamy universities connection?01:53
varunendrajmunsch_, and the "Kernel module in use"?01:53
MidnightNinjaspecifically, the ssid?'01:54
varunendraMidnightNinja, yes. It will also be the name of the file that connection settings are saved in.01:54
MidnightNinjaWIRELESS-PITTNET01:54
MidnightNinjaAlso, I am not on ubuntu right now, since I have no way of accessing the internet on it01:55
varunendraMidnightNinja, are you dual booting?01:55
MidnightNinjayup01:55
MidnightNinjawindows 8 and ubuntu 13.0401:55
zykotick9varunendra: :( actually with the -v in lspci, you need "lspci -nnkv | grep -iA8 vga" to get to the "Kernel derive in use:" line :( so that's not so good.01:55
MidnightNinjaidk if hardware is fully functional, but it works01:55
MidnightNinjaand nvidia driver is loaded01:55
varunendrazykotick9, I've used a few variations, so kinda aware of those glitches ;P01:56
zykotick9varunendra: well thanks again, i'm stealing it regardless ;)01:57
varunendraMidnightNinja, there was a workaround, but it does not always work, and it involves modifying the 'Key File' of the connection01:57
MidnightNinjavaurndera: explain?01:57
varunendrazykotick9, I stole it very shamelessly too.. from a senior member :D01:57
varunendraMidnightNinja, there should be a file /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/WIRELESS-PITTNET in your Ubuntu part01:58
MidnightNinjaokay01:58
varunendraMidnightNinja, you must open it as root (can't even read it as a normal user)01:58
MidnightNinjagot it01:59
varunendraMidnightNinja, then there should be a line "ca-system-cert=true" in it. You have to change its value from "true" to "flase"01:59
tech11hi all01:59
MidnightNinjaalright awesome01:59
MidnightNinjathanks for the help01:59
MidnightNinjasee ya in a bit02:00
varunendraMidnightNinja, no probs, hope it solves the issue.02:00
tech11how do u running sh configure?02:00
varunendrajmunsch_, still there?02:00
jmunsch_varunendra : i am not very familiar with what modules relate to the wifi ... but pulling what looks familiar from "lsmod"  ... brcmsmac,mac8021102:00
tech11how do u running sh configure in ubuntu?02:01
varunendrajmunsch_, that should have been mentioned in the output of the command "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net". So is it brcmsmac?02:02
jmunsch_Kernel driver in use: atl1c02:02
varunendrajmunsch_, nope, it is for the ethernet part, see the wireless part02:03
tech11i need help please02:03
jmunsch_varunendra : thnx ... yes brcmsmac02:04
varunendrajmunsch_, also, does it happen while shutting down or rebooting from win8 only or also when shutting down Ubuntu?02:04
zykotick9tech11: compiling software should be your LAST resort.  but have you tried "./configure"?02:04
jmunsch_varunendra : not sure what win8 is ... but wifi must be disabled before shutdown in order for it to work next boot02:05
jmunsch_ubuntu02:05
James_EppI want to make a startup application pointing to a bash script. However, I do not want to type in my password when the script performs sudo commands. Is there any way to make these bash scripts not require the password?02:05
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varunendrajmunsch_, sorry I confused you with someone else, I thought you are dual booting with windows 802:06
jmunsch_varunendra : no ... i had a 12.04 install a few months ago ... and had the same issue ... is there anything that I can do to pinpoint why this would occur? what are your thoughts on it? something to do with module loading?02:07
varunendrajmunsch_, we frequently deal with this card at Ubuntu Forums, but never saw this kind of problem before. Have you also tried the proprietary driver at some point? Or some manual configuration somewhere?02:08
tech11how do u remove ubunut in desktop02:08
Dr_Willistech11:  what do you want to use instead?02:08
Dr_Willis!purekde02:08
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde »02:08
jmunsch_varunendra : no .. this is a fresh install albeit ... ubuntu studio ... but i had the same issue with a 32bit ubuntu desktop version as well ... that's how i figured it might be the same issue02:08
Dr_Williseasier to just leave ubuuntu and unity installed and select a differnt desktop at the login screen02:09
jmunsch_varunendra : no proprietary ... no man config02:09
varunendraJames_Epp, add the command (with absolute paths) in /etc/rc.local file. Make sure the file's last line remains "exit 0"02:09
tech11window 702:10
James_Eppvarunendra: Will that pass on all "root" rights to for instance, "gnome-terminal -x bash /dir/Script.sh"02:10
hankyHas anyone used nitrogen for the function of having an extended wallpaper through dual monitors?02:10
James_Epp>>>As well as open a window for when my user auto-logs in?02:10
varunendrajmunsch_, interesting issue then. We may try a few things but I think a forum thread may be a better place for that kind of 'experiments'02:10
jmunsch_varunendra : sure launchpad? where should i submit the query and other information?02:11
varunendraJames_Epp, that script and all the commands in it are executed at boot time 'as root'. That's all I know about it.02:11
varunendrajmunsch_, ubuntuforums.org02:11
James_Eppvarunendra: Thanks.02:11
varunendraJames_Epp, np :)02:12
tech11i am install window 702:12
varunendrajmunsch_, precisely here : http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=33602:12
James_Epptech11: So If I understand correctly, you ubuntu installed and instead want to completely delete ubuntu and install windows 7 again?02:13
varunendrajmunsch_, for adding details, you might find this script helpful : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1235038502:13
Dr_Willistech11:  if you want to delete ubuntu. then delete the partions and reinstall whatever os you want02:13
tech11yes02:13
James_Epptech11: Join #windows and ask them to walk you through the process of deleting partitions while doing a fresh install.02:14
Dr_Willisive seen windows 'restore disk' sets that automatically delete all the partions anyway. (which can be annoying)02:14
sorsI can't get "aoss gtick" to stay in the unity launcher for my life any ideas ? all other  i tried worked02:15
jmunsch_varunendra : alright ... just getting this SSO stuff under controll ... new login from that server down incident and all i suppose ... i will submit the necessary information ... would you like me to get a link to the thread back here?02:15
varunendrajmunsch_, might get you some help from here. But if you wish to let 'Me' know of it, just pm me there. My id is same at UF02:16
jmunsch_varunendra : alright the more the merrier :D thnx for the help02:17
varunendrawelcome :)02:18
Titaniumi installed ubuntu 12.04 desktop 64 bit, and when I try to boot from the disk I installed too... it immediatly goes to a blank screen with a blinking cursor and stays there02:23
Titaniumshould I be seeing grub instead?02:24
Dr_Willisyou may wan tto try the 'boot-repair' tool Titanium  mentioned at the following url02:25
Dr_Willis!fixboot02:25
Dr_Willis!fixgrub02:25
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub202:25
Dr_Willisor the nomodeset option if you can get to the grub menu. press/hold shift at boot02:25
Dr_Willis!nomodeset02:25
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter02:25
Titaniumthanks! also does ubuntu think ram pairity errors are the same as MCE ?02:25
Dr_Willisby default grub is hidden if ubuntu is ht eonly os on the system02:25
Benkinoobyhi02:26
Titaniumdurign install it said i got MCE, but i checked logs on the server and no such errors happened02:26
Titaniumwtf02:29
Titaniumit setup GPT I think02:29
tech11how do u fixing boot window02:30
Dr_Willistech11:  you wan tto put the windows bootloader on the system? or grub?02:31
tech11yes02:31
Dr_Willisyes to what?02:31
Dr_Willisif you want to restore windows.. ask in #windows02:32
Titaniumhe obviously wants both to happen at the same time :)02:32
Titaniumsorry02:32
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MichaelPhow do i get compiz working in gnome. ?  ccsm.....    compizconfig - Info: Backend     : gsettings....compizconfig - Info: Integration : true...compizconfig - Info: Profile     : Default........Segmentation fault (core dumped)02:33
zykotick9MichaelP: i don't think gnome-shell does compiz...02:34
wilee-nileeMichaelP, the shell is mutter02:34
MichaelPim in fall back... works perfect in ultimate edition 3.5.... but that thing in so loaded02:35
MichaelPDoes it work in unity ?02:37
taime1If i am seeing dropped packets, but ethtool -S eth1 returns no tx errors or any mention of dropped packets, is the problem likely with the router02:40
taime1>?02:40
Dr_WillisMichaelP:  unity is a plugin for compiz.02:40
kandinskiHow can I debug a VPN connection? Is there any way to launch the Network Manager VPN connection from a console, so the output tells me why it's not connecting?02:40
Titaniumhow do i make ubuntu boot, if for some reason it automatically formatted as GPT, do i need to re-install (my compouter cannot boot GPT formatted disks)02:40
terribustaime1: Yeah02:41
Dr_Willisif the pc cant handle gpt.  then that would sound like you need to repartion the disks to the msdos table. and reinstall02:41
MichaelPDr_Willis: i thought unity was like a shell for gnome02:41
Titaniumis there some reason it does GPT by default?02:41
terribustaime1: swap cables first just to be sure,02:41
Dr_Willisand unity is a compiz plugin that runs on top of the core gnome desktop02:42
zykotick9Titanium: is your drive 3+TB?02:42
taime1terribus: yeah, i was going to go that route02:42
MichaelPok02:42
taime1hoe reliable is ethtool?02:42
wilee-nileeTitanium, Did this computer have a OEM W8 install at any point, are you sure it is not a uefi computer?02:42
Titaniumyes, its 2 years old02:43
Titaniummy computer does not support windows...02:43
wilee-nileeTitanium, the last two comments hardly make sense.02:43
Titaniumreverse them02:43
terribustaime1: pretty reliable02:43
MichaelPDr_Willis: if i installed ubuntu insted of kubuntu... compiz and gnome... compiz would be in the ubuntu install ?02:43
wilee-nileelol righ good luck02:43
Titaniumit is not uefi, it is bios, its old02:44
Titaniumit never ran windows as it does not support windows02:44
Dr_WillisMichaelP:  ubuntu uses unity and compiz and gnome.   Kubuntu does not use compiz02:44
Dr_Willisor gnome or unity :)02:44
Titaniumit has too much cpu and ram to support windows :(02:44
wilee-nilee!who | Titanium will help02:44
ubottuTitanium will help: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)02:44
MichaelPso then if i install ubuntu-desktop... everything should be there then02:44
Dr_WillisMichaelP:  yes.02:45
Titanium!tab02:45
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.02:45
wilee-nileeTitanium, I asked a question, "Did this computer have a OEM W8 install at any point" then you said yes then said it does not support windows02:45
Titaniumyeah, sorry i answered the last part first02:46
wilee-nileecould have been yes to anything without a nick is all. Titanium02:46
Titaniumwilee-nilee sorry02:46
MichaelPok... or would i be better off just downloading ubuntu 13.04 iso02:46
wilee-nileeTitanium, No biggie we just want to be sure we understand each other is all. ;)02:46
Titaniumwilee-nilee im just going to re-install02:47
Titaniumwilee-nilee i can manually partition, i just was hoping the automatic one would be sane and do MBR for <2TB02:47
wilee-nileeTitanium, Check the partition table, I would make it a msdos if possible that it is empty, the mbr might have gpt info as well and need clearing.02:48
Dr_WillisMichaelP:  im not sure what you are trying to do.02:48
Titaniumwilee-nilee I re-did the RAID5 before install, and removed all other storage (I had a usb key before on the internal usb slot)02:48
MichaelPDr_Willis: wanting all the effects of compiz02:48
wilee-nileeTitanium, Sometimes big HD's have two HD's attached, I wonder if this is the case 2 terrabytes ca run msdos.02:49
wilee-nileecan*02:49
Dr_WillisMichaelP:  install compiz and all the plugins if thats what you want. Ifyou want the full unity-desktop  install ubuntu-desktop02:49
Titaniumwilee-nilee i have been trying to get this turned into my new gaming pc for like a month now, sorry if i sound frustrated :)02:49
wilee-nileeTitanium, I did not notice that, I was just concerned with giving bad advice is all. ;)02:50
bluedogslimI have a question. What is the short cut key command for starting the calculator in ubuntu?02:50
MichaelPDr_Willis: i did install compiz and everything.....   terminal.....   ccsm.....    compizconfig - Info: Backend     : gsettings....compizconfig - Info: Integration : true...compizconfig - Info: Profile     : Default........Segmentation fault (core dumped)02:51
wilee-nileebluedogslim, I use synapse to trigger apps myself, not keys.02:51
bluedogslimthere has to be a hot key or some short cut02:51
terribusTitanium: Are you using hardware or software RAID? Is it built into your motherboard or did you buy a seperate card?02:52
lotuspsychjeive installed 13.04 64bit on a targa laptop with a geforce go and nouveau driver, it all works flawlessly, just when opening dash searching applictions laptop freezes, any clues?02:52
bluedogslimEspecially if you want to use the calculator in a hurry02:52
wilee-nileebluedogslim, You could assign one I doubt there is one for the calculator.02:52
Titaniumterribus its an LSI 9260-8i02:52
Titaniumterribus hardware RAID02:53
bluedogslimI got it02:53
terribusand you created a RAID 5 container in the RAID bios?02:53
bluedogslimWow thats cool02:53
Titaniumterribus yeah02:53
Titaniumterribus and i set that volume as the boot one02:53
terribusTitanium: and I assume that when you installed, it listed it as /dev/sd* ?02:54
Titaniumterribus and i enabled option ROM for the card02:54
DJ_U|LaptopAnyone know of a way around being stuck on a menu in the install?02:54
terribusTitanium: wacky02:54
Titaniumterribus i didnt check I assumed the auto partitioning would just magically do it02:54
lotuspsychjeDJ_U|Laptop: wich menu?02:54
wilee-nileebluedogslim, here is some info if needed. http://askubuntu.com/questions/83962/assign-keyboard-shortcut-to-program02:54
Dr_WillisTitanium:  its possible the boot-repair tool may fix things.. then again it may not. ;)02:54
TitaniumDr_Willis it is GUI only so i cant tell02:55
bluedogslimwow - thats cool02:55
DJ_U|LaptopI'm stuck on the "Where are you" screen.  Tried the "Install alongside Windows" install option, via live disc02:55
terribusTitanium: *Should*, I'd re run the live CD and explore block devices to see if the device actually shows up.02:55
TitaniumDr_Willis and the CLI commands didnt let me fix it as it said it was GPT foramatted02:55
terribusfdisk -l ?02:55
Titaniumterribus yeah it shows up, but as GPT02:55
bluedogslimubuntu is amazing02:55
lotuspsychjeDJ_U|Laptop: does the 'where are you' menu freezes?02:55
Dr_WillisTitanium:  you can get a boot-repair dedicated live-cd - i dont use gpt enough to even now about it much02:55
TitaniumDr_Willis i dont use GPT either as i cannot boot it02:56
Dr_Willisfdisk is outdated a bit and dosent handle gpt. that dosent mean the system cant handle gpt02:56
wilee-nileebluedogslim, days 11.10, but the keyboard app is in all releases02:56
wilee-nileesays*02:56
terribusfdisk is way outdated :)02:56
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TitaniumDr_Willis i have spent a day before helping someone else try to get windows to intall to GPT on this same computer, and it never worked (they didnt want to create an 80 GB partition for windows :) )02:56
DJ_U|LaptopIt's frozen, I can select the few runnings tasks in the tray, but hitting back and continue in the install does nothing and the cursor in continously spinning.02:57
TitaniumDr_Willis i found later that it was not possible to boot GPT02:57
wilee-nileeTitanium, a website worth knowing about Rod's. http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/02:57
DJ_U|LaptopI might add I'm attempting to install 12.04 LTS02:57
lotuspsychjeTitanium: maybe try ##hardware aswell to doublecheck your raid layout02:57
Titaniumlotuspsychje my raid layout is fine02:57
lotuspsychjeDJ_U|Laptop: wich version did you try now?02:57
DJ_U|Laptopscroll up. :) 12.04 LTS02:58
lotuspsychjemy bad :p02:58
DJ_U|Laptoplol, np02:58
lotuspsychjeDJ_U|Laptop: maybe try 13.04?02:58
DJ_U|LaptopWell, I guess I could try grabbing 13.04, but would that affect the partitioning, given that the install has made it this far, then hanging?02:59
lotuspsychjeDJ_U|Laptop: it will give you alot of options aswell03:00
jmgkhi all03:00
jmgkAnyone here know if laptops have good battery life with Ubuntu?03:00
terribusTitanium: I'd run down if the OS actually sees the block device. Sometimes there's a driver it needs(havent seen this with ubuntu recently, but it happens) especially if it's an LSI controller rather than COTS.03:00
lotuspsychjeDJ_U|Laptop: ive seen few systems hang on the partitioning menu03:00
Kupo24zAnyone know how to fix this problem with python/nova? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/314893503:00
terribusTitanium: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/category/RAID/03:00
bluedogslimUbuntu would have the best battery life out of any os because its effecient.03:01
bluedogslimIf your worried about too many process try installing mint.03:01
DJ_U|LaptopWell, I seem to be able to get past the partitioning menu, on that screen I'm stuck at, it displaying copying files, display bar goes to the end, then I'm stuck.03:02
jmunsch_varunendra : i created a thread for that issue of "wifi does not work unless disabled and computer rebooted"  ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2176768&p=12799023#post1279902303:02
DJ_U|LaptopWell, it's does NOT display the grub loader at boot, it goes directly into windows without the live cd installed.03:03
varunendrajmunsch_, subscribing it. I shall wait to see if someone else with possibly similar experience can pick it up. If not, shall post after sometime..03:04
DWSRHow can I get the last kernel panic message?03:04
Dr_Willisjmgk:  it will depend on the exact laptop and the ubuntu version. theres a lot of issues with some makes and very poor battery life. often due to the laptop makers not following the standards03:05
wilee-nileeDJ_U|Laptop, This a computer with W8?03:05
DJ_U|LaptopNo, Windows 703:06
DWSRHow can I get details about the last kernel panic to occur on my system??03:06
DJ_U|Laptopx6403:06
jmunsch_varunendra : sounds good ... no hurry ... and i forgot to mention ... but i did in the thread ... the issue seems to be resolved in 13.04 ... so is not super pressing since i know how to scoot around it ... but since it is an issue for the LTS maybe something should be added to an update? i dunno. but it is definitely a reason for someone new to ubuntu to just walk away from it.03:07
wilee-nileeDJ_U|Laptop, Mainly is it a uefi, did it ever have W8? Does it have 4 primary partitions maybe if a msdos setup, hard to really tell important details so far.03:07
jmgkok Dr_Willis03:07
DJ_U|LaptopHas 3 primary partitions, but they are all on different drives.  It has never had windows 8 on it.  Not sure what UEFI is, but I have a BIOS03:08
surface-vermindoes you bios enable you to use a mouse ?03:09
DJ_U|Laptopyes, both P/S 2 and USB.  I do not have access to a P/S 2 mouse, however.03:09
wilee-nileeDJ_U|Laptop, are you sure different drives, are you calling partitions drives?03:09
zexcriz_is apparmor enabled by default in ubuntu ?03:10
wilee-nileezexcriz_, no03:10
lotuspsychjeDJ_U|Laptop: how about you use ubuntu for your whole pc, and loose winblows once and for good :p03:10
zexcriz_wilee-nilee, ok03:10
DJ_U|LaptopI would if I could, but I have a ton of games and none of them work under the Linux kernal03:11
lotuspsychjeDJ_U|Laptop: did you check playonlinux and steam?03:11
DJ_U|LaptopI have, but none are availible and I suspect wouldn't run with WINE03:11
dog-foodstop playing games and do something useful03:12
varunendrajmunsch_, thanks for that update, definitely worth looking into. But the latest updates for 12.04 use the same kernel as default 13.04, have you tried updating it?03:12
lotuspsychje!infi playonlinux | DJ_U|Laptop03:12
surface-verminwine has a data base to check03:12
dog-foodor play dota203:12
lotuspsychje!info playonlinux | DJ_U|Laptop03:12
ubottuDJ_U|Laptop: playonlinux (source: playonlinux): front-end for Wine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.1.1-1 (raring), package size 1436 kB, installed size 3507 kB03:12
Dr_Willis!appdb03:12
ubottuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help03:12
wilee-nilee!ot | dog-food this is support03:12
ubottudog-food this is support: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:12
DJ_U|LaptopI'll check those out.  I see in disk management that it did seem to create a partition.  I wonder if I disconnect the other drives would make things easier.  They are backup/storage drives.03:13
zexcriz_can i setup postfix for my home use ? is that a good idea or a bad one ?03:13
lotuspsychjeDJ_U|Laptop: yes would be nice to install 13.04 clean on 1 drive first, will blow your mind03:13
OldTexasYep, jes blew mine.  Quick install too.03:14
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lotuspsychjeOldTexas: tnx for feedback mate03:14
OldTexasMuch obliged03:14
jmunsch_varunendra : yeah i have installed all the updates that have shown up thus far in the notification area.03:14
lotuspsychjeDJ_U|Laptop: and for your dj needs try mixxx :p03:14
surface-verminmixxx is awesome03:15
lotuspsychjesurface-vermin: i agree, very proffessional03:15
varunendrajmunsch_, Okkay then, will watch the thread with interest :)03:15
surface-verminit's really done right alot of the controls feel authentic03:15
lotuspsychjesurface-vermin: i'v recently installed a laptop for a real dj, he looked his eyes out for mixxx :p03:16
jmunsch_varunendra : thanx for the input and feedback03:16
DJ_U|Laptopafk for a minute, Detroit Tigers 1 pitch away from clinching AL Central03:16
DJ_U|Laptop1 out*03:16
surface-verminwhat sorta setup does he have with it ?03:17
surface-verminmidi controller ?03:17
* lotuspsychje hopes to see 1600 users in #ubuntu-offtopic one day..03:17
lotuspsychjesurface-vermin: yes he got a midi controller, and ive installed hydrogen for him aswell03:18
OldTexasReckon I'll mosey on over there.03:18
wilee-nileeDJ_U|Laptop, be careful with using just windows disk management to show partitions, it hides the boot partition usually, look with gparted in ubuntu if you are going to install, I assume you know the amount and limitations of partitions types on a singke HD.03:18
Dr_Willisi seem to recall seeing 3000 in here on release day03:18
lotuspsychjeDr_Willis: lol :p03:18
Dr_Willisthe reason ignore part/joins was invented03:18
DJ_U|LaptopYes, I'm aware of the limitations on a single drive.  I've been working with multiple partitions, as well as drives for more than a decade.  :)03:19
wilee-nileeOldTexas, for your pleasure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yNwuvOur-003:22
DJ_U|LaptopWell, this is going to take awhile, downloading a 785 MB file at ~110 KBps03:23
lotuspsychjeDJ_U|Laptop: 13.04 is worth the wait for sure, i found it very stable and fast03:25
tr3ntonhttp://askubuntu.com/a/157787/50523 I notice in this answer to check if a process is running, they put a square bracket around the first letter of the process name, to exclude the grep process. Is that right? How does that work.. couldnt see any doc about that03:25
tr3ntonps aux | grep "[g]edit"03:25
lotuspsychjetr3nton: man ps maybe?03:27
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DJ_U|LaptopWoo, Detroit Tigers, 2013 American League Central Division Champions!!!03:28
tr3ntonlotuspsychje: ok thanks, will have a read. Thought it'd be more related to grep03:28
lotuspsychjetr3nton: didnt find it at first yet, its a huge man :p alot of options in there03:28
Dr_Willisthat sould be a regular expression woldent it?03:29
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tr3ntonDr_Willis: That's what I initially thought, but im not sure03:30
Dr_Willisthat would be an option/argument going to grep in that example. not ps.03:31
lotuspsychje!info xfetch03:35
ubottuPackage xfetch does not exist in raring03:35
Guest21364!info synaptic03:36
ubottusynaptic (source: synaptic): Graphical package manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.80~exp2raring1 (raring), package size 2373 kB, installed size 7593 kB03:36
lotuspsychjewhats that in terminal? http://www.deviantart.com/art/Dark-36820173903:37
Dr_Willis!find xfetch03:39
ubottuPackage/file xfetch does not exist in raring03:39
lotuspsychje!info dim03:39
ubottuPackage dim does not exist in raring03:39
lotuspsychjehmmz03:39
seanzAnyone here have any advice on where I'd start to learn how to build packages?03:40
Dr_Willis!apt | seanz03:40
ubottuseanz: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)03:40
Guest21364lotuspsychje, Archey? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iQ4GvUgNTgU/UEEQP8tU_tI/AAAAAAAAEvk/efYvPlxyajU/s1600/Screenshot+from+2012-08-31+22:26:24.png03:40
Guest21364!info archey03:41
ubottuPackage archey does not exist in raring03:41
seanzDr_Willis: Thanks very much!03:41
Dr_Willisdebians homepage may also have some  m docs03:41
surface-vermini thought  archey is arch linux package03:41
hua03:42
rscntuse03:42
rscntarch03:42
Guest21364surface-vermin, it is but check that screen shot.03:42
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lotuspsychjefirst url was a xubuntu 13.04 box03:42
Guest21364surface-vermin, I don't know an Ubuntu equivalent name if there is one.03:42
lotuspsychje!info sfetch03:42
ubottuPackage sfetch does not exist in raring03:42
Dr_Williswhat does it do? ;)03:42
surface-verminwish i could help yeah guest sorry03:43
lotuspsychjemaybe its a conky thing from terminal03:44
surface-verminno it like uname -a with dirto logo in teminal03:45
surface-vermindistro *03:45
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lotuspsychjesurface-vermin: yes but wich packate to install to see that03:46
lotuspsychje*package03:46
Guest21364lotuspsychje, the screenshot I gave has a download URL as part of the image.  It might even still be there..03:48
archangle25is there a howto somewhere when i can read on which commands to APPEND to the kernel in a pxe environment so that the installer will use my http local mirror?03:51
Dr_Willis!pxe03:54
Dr_Willisperhaps this one03:54
Dr_Willis!install03:54
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate03:54
Dr_Willisguess you could edit the /etc/apt/sources.list or other apt configs befor starting the installer03:55
archangle25ive read i dont know how many ubuntu specific installs recently all to no avail.03:55
archangle25my problem is that the initrd and kernel are loaded but then dont go anywhere and drop out to busybox03:55
tfdlgood evening to all,03:55
archangle25eg in rhel I would pass ks=blah url etc and annaconda would know to take over03:55
surface-verminevening03:55
Titaniumhi, i am partitioning ubuntu as i install it, is there any guide on how big i should make each partition?03:55
archangle25i know casper is the installation env i *think*03:56
surface-vermintitanium no03:56
wilee-nilee!who | surface-vermin not a nick in sight03:57
ubottusurface-vermin not a nick in sight: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)03:57
Titaniumsurface-vermin can you give me some guidance?03:57
surface-vermin!Titanium sure03:57
Titaniumsurface-vermin I have 200 GB of disk, and 512 GB ram. I plan to use this for gameing (note i will not need much if any swap space)03:58
wilee-nileesurface-vermin, Cool, you can tab complete nicks.03:58
Guest21364Titanium, I have one big / and a swap.  That's it.  I also have a network attached Samba share that is where I back up anything important.  That is why I don't have a separate /home partition.  Basically, you want a root "/" to be big enough for all the applications you would like to install and the rest for home minus a reasonable swap.03:58
tfdlI am looking for help with GtkTerm package on Ubuntu. Can you please point me to a source of documentation for this package?03:59
Guest21364Titanium, but if you have networked attached storage: one big / and a swap.03:59
tfdl!GtkTerm03:59
wilee-nileeTitanium, 512 gigs of ram?03:59
OldTexasThere's this outfit called Identity that makes this $14.95 2 DVD little magazine thing that's got a dDVD for 13.04 32bit on one side n' 64bit on the other.  The second DVD has Xubuntu, Lububtu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu-Gnome  n' Xfce on it. It's a good starter DVD if you are startin' from nothing.  http://www.linuxidentity.com/us/E03:59
TitaniumGuest21364 yeah i will probably use my iSCSI storage as it has better performance than my SSD04:00
wilee-nileeOldTexas, Those are all free in general.04:00
Titaniumwilee-nilee yes04:01
wilee-nileeTitanium, This a super computer or something.04:01
Guest21364Titanium, the reason some people like a separate /home is because they reinstall and don't format the home partition when they do - they just reuse it.  In my case I have gigabit LAN.  I'll flatten my hard-drive and have it copied back in 20 minutes, no big deal.04:01
Titaniumwilee-nilee its my new gaming pc04:01
Titaniumyeah I have 10gbps ports integrated into motherboard so i will probably use my NAS for any high IOPS stuff04:02
tfdlI am looking for help with GtkTerm package on Ubuntu. Can you please point me to a source of documentation for this package?04:06
reisiotfdl: help accomplishing what?04:06
Dr_Willistfdl:  most packages have docs in /usr/share/doc/ or doc-base04:07
totesmuhgoatshi friends04:07
totesmuhgoatshow can i tell to what package a program belongs?04:07
reisiohi totesmuhgoats04:07
totesmuhgoatsreisio: it has been a while04:07
tfdlwith the gui of GtkTerm i can send a hex to serial port successfully, but how can i automate it or how can i do it in command line or as a program, please?04:08
tfdlto both <reisio> and <Dr_Willis> above.04:08
reisiototesmuhgoats: dpkg -S `which program`04:08
Titaniumhow large should i make /, /boot, /home, /tmp, /usr, /var, /srv, /opt, and /usr/local04:09
reisioTitanium: I wouldn't even make them separate04:09
zykotick9totesmuhgoats: or "dpkg -S /path/to/program"04:09
reisioTitanium: the only real advantage to doing so is to use specialized FSes for each partition04:09
Titaniumdoes linux create a swap file like windows that is the same size as RAM?04:09
Titaniummy HDD is smaller than RAM04:09
reisioTitanium: the installer does, yes, if you don't tell it what size you want04:10
reisioTitanium: then it probably wouldn't :p04:10
Guest21364Titanium, reisio, I'm not certain about Ubuntu but if /usr is separate on Arch you have to take care with it or your system won't boot..04:10
surface-verminthat in the mkinitcpio04:10
surface-verminubuntu take's care of that04:11
totesmuhgoatsthanks for the responses, but dpkg says "no path found matching pattern /usr/bin/java"04:11
zykotick9totesmuhgoats: "which java" is it really in /usb/bin/java?04:11
reisioGuest21364: I imagine the installer is informed of any potential issues in that regard04:11
tfdlto both <reisio> and <Dr_Willis>: this is the package with gui that i mentioned above https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/oneiric/gtkterm/04:12
reisiozykotick9: :p04:12
totesmuhgoatszykotick9: yea i used reisio's syntax, so it returned the result of which04:12
reisiotfdl: how're you doing it now?04:12
Titaniumso if I just make a big / is that fine, or should I make /tmp and /var smaller04:12
reisiototesmuhgoats: mmm, it's possible that's some de facto symlink that doesn't count04:12
reisiototesmuhgoats: readlink `which java` :p04:12
reisiobut it should be pretty obvious what provides your java executable04:13
totesmuhgoatswell java -version seems to suggest it is from openjdk04:13
reisiodpkg -l | egrep -i 'jdk|jre|oracle|sun|icedtea'04:13
Guest21364Titanium, if you end up making any of the partitions too small it can be a pain to later increase their sizes.  If you only have 200GB I see no problem with one big /04:13
reisioTitanium: I just make a big /04:13
zykotick9reisio: that's quite the egrep ;)04:13
tfdlto both <reisio> and <Dr_Willis>: I have entered the hex string and send successfully to serial port to switch the light red or green using its gui, but how can i do that programmatically?04:13
reisiozykotick9: yeah but it only took a half second to type :p04:13
zexcriz_what is a vhost ? is that a local host ?04:14
reisiotfdl: how are you doing it now?04:14
reisiozexcriz_: virtual host04:14
reisioit's a host that exists only in software04:14
totesmuhgoatslooks like i have openjdk-6-jre installed04:14
tfdlreisio: I have entered the hex string and send successfully to serial port to switch the light red or green using its gui, but how can i do that programmatically?04:14
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totesmuhgoatsi need a jdk, is it safe to just do something like apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk? will apt take care of everything? or am i gonna break a whole bunch of stuff?04:15
reisiotfdl: need to know precisely how you're doing it manually first04:15
reisio"entered" is not descriptive enough04:15
Titaniumi am tryign to partition this, but i do not see an option for GPT versus MBR in the installer GUI where i setupo my partitions. How do I do this?04:15
zexcriz_reisio, ok :)04:15
reisiototesmuhgoats: it's safe but that's probably not the most proper way04:15
Dr_Willisyou can use echo  to send stuff to a serial port if you wanted to tfdl  i imagine most languages got wyas to open serial devices. I dont code much these days04:15
reisiototesmuhgoats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java04:16
totesmuhgoatsreisio: thanks04:16
totesmuhgoatsand thanks to everyone else too04:16
reisioor maybe it is :p04:16
molly_hi everybody! i have a hopefully quick question to ask: i am trying to install ubuntu on a netbook without a CDrom drive and no USB stick with more than 1.91G of space04:17
molly_i guess basically my qusetion is 'how i shot install'04:18
Dr_WillisTitanium:  i think you would use gparted to set the drives partion table type , befor you partion04:18
reisiomolly_: 1.91 should be enough for the install image04:18
MichaelPhow do i get compiz fusion icon to start on the unity panel ?04:18
Dr_Willismolly_:  lubuntu can fit on a 1gb usb stick i think also04:18
reisiomolly_: http://unetbootin.sf.net/04:18
molly_oh thank goodness04:18
tfdlreisio: first install GtkTerm, from command line open the gui by issuing gtkterm command, gtkterm gui will open then on control signal drop down menu select send a hex string, then at the bottom of the screen enter the hex string then press enter to send to hex string to the serial. the default configuration of the ports is ok to start.04:18
zykotick9reisio: ahhh default ubuntu won't fint on 2G...04:19
reisioMichaelP: apt-cache search fusion | grep -i icon04:19
reisiozykotick9: really?04:19
Dr_WillisMichaelP:  what do you want a 'compiz fusion' icon to do?04:19
MichaelPDr_Willis, so i can choose between compiz or what ever04:20
reisiozykotick9: think molly just wants to install -from- a usb stick04:20
zykotick9reisio: oh, they don't mean at the target?  ya, certainly for install media that would work!04:20
reisioMichaelP: fusion-icon is a separate package04:20
reisiozykotick9: I'm thinkin'04:20
molly_yes04:20
Dr_WillisMichaelP:  unity is a compiz plugin.. if you chose 'whatever' you will be killing off unity.04:20
Dr_Willis!info fusion-icon04:20
molly_i used a CDrom last time that a friend burned for me.04:20
ubottufusion-icon (source: fusion-icon): tray icon to launch and manage Compiz Fusion. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.1.0-2ubuntu2 (raring), package size 29 kB, installed size 189 kB04:20
reisiomolly_: also there are "minimalcd" images, which if you had even less stick space you could use, but needn't ATM :)04:20
Dr_Willisfusion-icon is most likely an Indicator-applet that would show up at the top-right. not in the left side panel04:21
molly_awesome! that link you gave me already has me feeling a bit more hopeful :)04:21
MichaelPreisio, i know compiz fusion icon is seperate i installed it.. but it wont lunch04:22
reisioMichaelP: how have you tried to make it launch?04:22
MichaelPreisio, by clicking on it.... i know when its in panel you right click04:23
reisioMichaelP: you click on it and attempt to do what?04:23
tfdlreisio: first install GtkTerm, from command line open the gui by issuing gtkterm command, gtkterm gui will open then on view drop down menu select send a hex string, then at the bottom of the screen enter the hex string then press enter to send to hex string to the serial. the default configuration of the ports is ok to start.04:24
TitaniumDr_Willis i am in the ubuntu gui installer, it does not have any cli that I can see :( so I am unable to jsut fix it myself04:24
Dr_WillisTitanium:  alt-ctrl-f1 to get to console. or use the 'try ubuntu' option and use gparted befor you start the installer04:25
Dr_Willisor use gparted from a differnt live cd to partion as you want,. then boot the ubuntu install cd04:25
MichaelPreisio, tring to activarte compiz04:25
MichaelPapt-cache search fusion | grep -i icon04:25
MichaelPfusion-icon - tray icon to launch and manage Compiz Fusion04:25
reisioMichaelP: what makes you think compiz isn't already running?04:26
Dr_Willisa try icon - may be outdated. most things use the indicator-applet method not 'system tray'04:26
Dr_Willisive not seen people useing 'fusion-icon' in ages. not needed it here in years.04:26
MichaelPreisio, can't get ccsm to do anything04:27
reisioMichaelP: mmm, you might need to install compiz proper, and run compiz --replace first04:27
Dr_WillisMichaelP:  try 'compiz --replace' that should insure that compiz is running.04:27
reisionot quite sure how Unity works04:27
Dr_WillisMichaelP:  what ubuntu release are you using?04:27
zykotick9reisio: currently, Unity is a compiz plugin...04:28
Tweak_Hello, new user to Ubuntu.  Just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 then 13.04.  On the last upgrade my USB doesn't seem to be working, and I can't use my USB keyboard and mouse.  Any ideas on how I can fix this?  I don't have an older ps2 keyboard and mouse.04:28
MichaelPDr_Willis, 13.04.04:28
Dr_WillisMichaelP:  so on a normal ubuntu unity desktop. if you got proper window decorations, then compiz most likely is running.04:29
reisiozykotick9: mmhmm, but that doesn't mean someone didn't run cp compiz unity to make it happen :p04:29
reisioas I said, I'm simply unfamiliar with it04:29
MichaelPDr_Willis, is there a run command thing in unity.... a ran compiz  --replace... but as soon as i close terminal it goes back to normal04:29
* reisio believes in possibilities04:30
Dr_WillisMichaelP:  dont use the CLOSE button. use the exit command.04:30
Dr_WillisMichaelP:  compiz --replace &04:30
Dr_Willisexit04:30
zykotick9reisio: oh, i'm not "familiar" with unity either.  but i've heard things ;)04:30
Dr_Willisor alt-f2  compiz --replace04:30
reisioI heard things, and stuff too!04:31
Ralliashttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6157288/ <- With the br0:1 address, I'm able to access the server's SSH. With the br0 address, I'm unable to ping in or out. Am I doing anything wrong?04:31
OldTexascool04:31
molly_thanks for the help everybody!04:31
molly_wish me luck XD04:31
tfdlreisio: first install GtkTerm, from command line open the gui by issuing gtkterm command, gtkterm gui will open then on view drop down menu select send a hex string, then at the bottom of the screen enter the hex string then press enter to send to hex string to the serial. the default configuration of the ports is ok to start.04:31
OldTexas]04:32
Dr_Willistfdl:  if you want to send a string to the serial port. You can do that via  (old skool way)   sudo echo 'string' > /dev/whatevertheserialdeviceis04:32
MichaelPDr_Willis, terminal compiz --replace & works... but file close and it goes back to normal desktop04:32
reisiotfdl: right sorry04:32
reisiotfdl: sounds like Dr_Willis has your number04:33
reisioMichaelP: nohup compiz --replace > /dev/null &04:33
tfdlreisio n/p.04:33
reisioor just use ALT+F2, as said04:33
Dr_WillisMichaelP:  'file close' means what?    try alt-f2 and 'compiz --replace'04:33
Dr_Willisor just log out abd back in. l;)04:33
MichaelPDr_Willis, menu on terminal... file button then close04:33
Dr_WillisMichaelP:  DONT use the terminal close button.. use the exit command as i said eralier.04:34
Dr_Willisor just leave the silly terminal open ;)04:34
tfdlDr_Willis: i tried that but it does not work. because i think sending a hex number is not the same as sending the string. Is there a way you can send a hex via this old skool way? Thanks Dr_Willis!04:34
RalliasWait... why would you recommend against using the close button?04:35
MichaelPThat is why i want the fusion icon04:35
Dr_Willis'compiz --replace', then 'exit'   normall works for me04:35
TehSuckijyoyo04:35
Dr_Willistfdl:  no idea.  convert your hex to ascii string perhaps04:35
tfdlah04:35
tfdlnot a bad idea04:35
Dr_Willistfdl:  or use perl or python that can print 'hex' output04:36
tfdlcan you point me to a documentation?04:36
tfdlDr_Willis?04:36
Dr_Willisperl.org  ?04:36
Tweak_I just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 then 13.04.  On the last upgrade my USB doesn't seem to be working, and I can't use my USB keyboard and mouse.  Any ideas on how I can fix this?  I don't have an older ps2 keyboard and mouse.04:36
Dr_Willisall the docs on perl should be there somewhere. ;)04:36
tfdlok04:36
tfdlthanks Dr_Willis.04:37
Dr_Willispython.org for python04:37
tfdlok04:37
tfdli will try there thanks again!04:37
Dr_WillisTweak_:  the keybaord works in the grub menus?04:37
RalliasTweak_, Did you try hotplugging it?04:39
Tweak_Dr_Willis, I dont have a grub menu I dont think, I don't dual boot.  It works in bios.04:40
Dr_Willisbe back in a bit.04:40
Tweak_Rallias: If hot plugging it means unplug and plug it back in the answer is yes.04:40
Dr_WillisTweak_:  you do have a grub  if you are usi9ng ubuntu. Its hidden by default - Press and hold SHIFT to see if it appear04:40
zykotick9Tweak_: i think you'll find, that that isn't uncommon with ubuntu "upgrades".  i'd guess most "experineced" ubuntu-users do fresh installs.  best of luck.04:40
Tweak_Ok Dr_Willis I will try that, thank you.04:41
Dr_Willisor once the system boots.  ssh in and see if you can fix the grub /etc/default/grub file to make grub NOT be hidden.04:41
Dr_WillisTweak_:  then you can try the text mode option to see if they work oin the console04:41
Tweak_Ohhhh Ok, I will just do a fresh install then.  I installed 12.04  2 days ago, I can reinstall the apps.04:41
RalliasDr_Willis, Calling you on that one... SSH isn't installed by default on desktops.04:41
* Dr_Willis hates grub auto-hideing04:41
Dr_WillisRallias:  hes done 3 upgrades in a row.. its likelyhe has installed a lot of things04:42
Dr_Willisi never said it was installed by default. ;) i said its a way to alter the file if he has no keyboard.04:42
Dr_WillisTweak_:  also check if the led/light is on - when the system boots - on the mouse.. had someone in here the other day with a weird issue with no power to the mouse.04:43
Tweak_The mouse is on, but the keyboard wont do num lock.04:43
Dr_Willisjust numlock is not working?04:43
Tweak_Well, none of the keyboard keys are working, nor  the mouse, but the mouse LED is on.04:44
RalliasDid you try plugging it into separate hubs?04:44
Tweak_It was working in 12.10.  But no worries, I am just going to wipe and do a fresh install of 1304:44
Dr_Willisi will bbl. )04:44
Tweak_Yes, I tried front and rear ports.04:44
surface-verminquit04:49
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MichaelPok got it going.... but to install fglrx drivers.. you guys to use jocky right04:50
Hundredhello04:56
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reisio'lo Hundred04:57
Hundredis it true that Dash search tool of Ubuntu logs everything you type and sends it to Canonical and Amazon?04:58
wilee-nileeHundred, yeah and the nsa, lol.04:59
Hundredits all over the internet about Ubuntu privacy concerns04:59
wilee-nileethat's a joke by the way05:00
archangle25hi - ok so ive installed 12.0.4 latest core and then installed xfce4 via command line.  what is the package name for the ubuntu software centre please so i can install that?05:01
Hundredarchangle25 did you try installing Xubuntu?05:01
Dr_WillisHundred:  theres dozens of blog sites and articals out about what it does. It sends ANONYMOUS info  and returns search results05:01
Dr_WillisHundred:  if you dont want it doing it.. you can turn it off.05:02
wilee-nileearchangle25, If your trying to do a trim install the software center is not really part of that.05:02
archangle25Hundred, no i just installed the basic via net install, then xfce405:02
archangle25its really just for steam client so i guess i could install it manually05:03
Dr_Willisarchangle25:  getting the latest steam .deb package maybe a lot easier ;)05:03
Dr_Willis!steam05:03
ubottuValve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.05:03
Dr_Willisarchangle25:  theres also a steam-desktop package that makes a login session that starts up steam directly05:04
archangle25Dr_Willis, oh thats what i want05:05
* archangle25 googles05:05
Dr_Willisarchangle25:  check webupd8 or the omgubuntu blog sites - it was mentined on those i recall05:05
archangle25apt-get doesnt do dependencies??05:11
Dr_Willisarchangle25:  no. but gdebi can05:14
Dr_Willisarchangle25:  oh wait. what are you dong exactly?05:14
Dr_Willisdpkg -i foo.deb   wont..  gdebi foo.deb   will ;)05:14
Dr_Willisapt-get gets stuff from the repos. so should pull in al needed deps05:14
archangle25arg05:14
archangle25-i05:15
archangle25ty05:15
jnhghyfrom time to time I'm facing a strange thing: my browser can't connect to the internet.... if I ping www.google.com I get ping: unkown host www.google.com but my IRC client connects and works without issues...05:16
jnhghyany idea?05:16
Dr_Willistry pinging via ip#   ie:   ping 8.8.8.805:17
Dr_Willisif name dont work. but ip does -> points to a dns issue05:17
SupaSolHello here05:17
Dr_Willisirc client may be cacheing the  ip's05:17
jnhghyDr_Willis: ping 8.8.8.8 rezulted in a Destination host unreacheble...05:20
Dr_Willisthat points to a gateway or router issue05:21
Dr_Willisdoes it just fail for a short amount of time?05:21
jnhghyDr_Willis: and now everything is back to normal ...05:21
Dr_Willis8.8.8.8 is googles main dns server - ;)05:21
Dr_Willisthis is a wireless network?05:22
jnhghyDr_Willis: I understand, what is strange is that if I refresh/try to connect for a couple of minutes... then it starts working, I'm on cable but also have a wifi as backup (it shows connected)05:23
Dr_Williskeep ping going in a terminal window. see if you can  catch when it goes down/back up.05:23
Dr_Willisive een some people use that ping method to keep connections active. ;) but notmally thats just needed for some weird wifi setups05:24
speedfire_laptopHi, anyone have an ide about how to install bumblebee primus under unbuntu 12.04 LTS ?05:24
Dr_Willisthere should be guides on installing bumblebee on the askubuntu.com site and the forums.05:25
Dr_Willisi dont use the stuff - rarely see much mor epeople talk abouit here - other then to say to follow the guides05:26
ak5can someone help me debug this error?05:26
ak5https://gist.github.com/alexanderververis/2405a0fa55fd995e394f05:26
ak5I am trying to install scrapy from the scrapy repo but dpkg is complaining05:26
speedfire_laptopDr_Willis but you knowm each time I am following a guide I got problems, I have try with debian Jessie, debian Wheezy, and now ubuntu :s05:28
seperoak5: uninstall  scrapy-0.1505:28
ak5sepero: why is it not overwriting simply?05:28
seperoak5: i do not know. perhaps it is from a ppa05:29
ak5sepero: it is from a ppa. problem is I am using ansible05:29
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ak5sepero: packages from a ppa can't overwrite older versions of themselves?05:30
nothingnesssHi i'm going to be setting up RAID1 with 2 drives on an ubuntu install with mdadm. I'm seeing a lot of guides but a lot are outdated. Can somebody maybe recommend me one that worked well for them or an official ubuntu one pleasE?05:30
seperoak5: they can, but ppa's are more likely to have bugs than oficial05:31
ak5sepero: I understand. Since I have tested this particular package, is there anyway short of -f that I can get apt to just install the package?05:31
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Dr_Willis!pin05:32
ubottupinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto05:32
ak5ok, thanks05:32
seperoak5: if you force installed it, you would have scrapy-0.15 and scrapy-0.17 installed, and that could cause conflict. are you trying to install both?05:32
ak5I am really confused why scrapy-0.15 is even included05:33
seperoak5: perhaps try:  sudo apt-get install scrapyd-0.17 scrapyd-0.15-05:34
nothingnesssWould this guide be safe to try on a 12.04 ? https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html05:36
Dr_Willisnothingnesss:  what part of it?05:37
nothingnesssDr_Willis: I'm going to be doing a fresh RAID1 install with mdadm on ubuntu 12.04. I just want a good guide to follow that's been tried and tested on 12.04.05:38
nothingnesssI've used my BIOS RAID and it's crap so I want to get this right with mdadm now.05:38
Dr_WillisNo idea on raid and mdadm ;) i stay away from fancy things like that05:38
reisioraid was invented by hard disk manufacturers05:39
reisioto force you to replace drives more often :p05:40
seperonothingnesss: maybe try #mdadm ? Wish I could help, but I never set one up05:40
Dr_Willisbuy more of them for the same storage05:40
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nothingnessssepero: ok ill try it thanks05:41
seperoak5: any luck?05:44
ak5sepero: no, for some reason ubuntu installs scrapy-0.15 when I add the ppa via ansible05:45
ak5even though I don't tell it to05:45
seperoak5: what's the output of this?:  sudo apt-get install scrapyd-0.17 scrapyd-0.15-05:45
ak5sepero: even if that works, I need this to work via ansible because it's ~50 machines05:46
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nothingnesssseemed to have found a good guide for 12.04 https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/advanced-installation.html05:48
seperoak5: ok, i'm not familiar with ansible05:48
ak5sepero: ok, for some reason, it installs scrapy-0.15 (not scrapyd)05:49
Titaniumlol, ubuntu complained I never configured any swap space :)05:51
seperoak5: If only you could run "apt-get" through ansible. Sorry I can't help more05:51
Titaniummy hard disk is smaller than my RAM so i cant :D05:51
Titaniumwould it be good to swap to an iSCSI share?05:52
seperoTitanium: :)05:52
tck9i have a ubuntu server with a single nic. is it possible to enable internet connection sharing with this? the ubuntu server is connected to a local router and the client computer that needs to share the connection is connected to the same router05:57
Ben64why not have the router be a router?05:57
tck9the ubuntu server is using openvpn05:57
tck9need to route the connection through it05:58
Titaniumyes it is possible05:58
tck9i've enabled ipv4 forwarding and added this iptables rule (iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE) ..05:58
tck9doesn't seem to be working though05:58
ak5sepero: thanks for your help anyway05:59
penguiRaiderhello what does the error  "held broken packages" mean ? Sorry if it is a very basic question .06:00
seperopenguiRaider: there are packages that have not been modified because of conflicts06:01
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penguiRaidersepero : can an upgrade of distro be a reason for that conflict?06:02
seperopenguiRaider: sometimes packages can't be removed because other packages depend on them. sometimes 2 packages can't be installed because they conflict with each other. your situation sounds like the second case06:03
seperopenguiRaider: yes it can06:04
penguiRaider Sepero : Is there there a way for apt-get to take care of it by itself ? Or do I have to manually remove the conflicting packages?06:06
Dr_Willismay be easeir to remove the conflict - depending on what you need.06:07
sepero^^06:08
Dr_Willismost of the thme when i see th eissue. they are conflicting over a trivial file. but it can depend on what you are installing06:08
seperopenguiRaider: it could mean a lot of things06:08
seperopenguiRaider: there may be some packages installed that you don't need anymore, or they just don't work with newer packages06:09
seperopenguiRaider: I'd need to see the full output to give you a more clear answer06:12
penguiRaidersepero : Thanks . This is the error that I got when I tried installing openssh server http://pastebin.com/FeinDFFh06:13
Dr_WillispenguiRaider:  whens the last time you did a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and perhaps 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' ?06:16
seperopenguiRaider: Dr_Willis could be right06:17
Dr_Willisalways the first thing to try when apt complains.  ;)06:17
seperopenguiRaider: perhaps try: apt-get install openssh-server openssh-client=1:5.9p1-5ubuntu106:18
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seperopenguiRaider: It may give another error. I'd need to see that too. Could be a rabbit hole06:19
fire__i have installed webmail but i can't login06:19
seperopenguiRaider: the program aptitude is pretty good at giving several options for conflict resolution06:20
fire__i tried all the possibilities but still can't login to squirrelmail.06:20
fire__s/webmail/squirrelmail06:20
stebanhola06:21
submanIs there a chat room devoted to love pat links?06:21
penguiRaiderDr_Willis : :) Thanks sudo apt-get dist-upgrade worked06:21
penguiRaidersepero : I guess the problem afterall was of some conflicting older packages :) thanks06:22
seperopenguiRaider: congrats06:22
BenchMonkeyFlighFirst time ubuntu user needs help running wine06:23
penguiRaider sepero : thanks for listening to me so patiently :)06:23
bazhangBenchMonkeyFligh, which app06:23
BenchMonkeyFlighJasmineCam06:23
seperopenguiRaider: welcome06:23
Dr_WillisBenchMonkeyFligh:    wine /path/to/the/windowsbinary.exe06:23
bazhang!appdb | BenchMonkeyFligh check here first06:23
ubottuBenchMonkeyFligh check here first: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help06:23
bazhangBenchMonkeyFligh, /join #winehq06:24
Dr_Willisthe wine app database is a first stop ;) to see if the app is known to work, or not work06:24
BenchMonkeyFlighdone06:24
roninit's a bit confusing that unix returns 0 when true and programming languages 1 when true06:28
Dr_Willisunix  commands normally return an error code.  0 meaning 'success'06:29
roninyup06:29
Dr_Willisso its not the same as true/false ;)06:29
seperoi agree it can be confusing06:30
Dr_Willisi dont see how its confuseing at all. ;)06:31
reisionever send an integer to do a word's job06:31
Dr_Willisthe byte bit me06:31
Dr_Willisbigger bytes bite back badly.06:32
seperothe program `true` gives 006:35
reisiois that /bin/true, or the shell builtin, though!06:36
seperoreisio: does it matter?06:36
reisiodoes anything06:37
seperoeither would have the same result, otherwise it wouldn't be true06:37
Wiz_KeeDI removed the image at boot and I see a few lines of console showing when the system is loading up, but the first 4-5 secconds there is still that purple background that doesn't reveal what's going on...is there a way to remove that too? (12.04)06:40
aeon-ltdWiz_KeeD: the splash at boot?06:40
aeon-ltdWiz_KeeD: http://askubuntu.com/questions/33416/how-do-i-disable-the-boot-splash-screen06:41
Wiz_KeeDYeah that I removed, but it's not like when I click to boot ubuntu it starts showing the console, it waits like 3-4 secconds before it starts showing06:41
seperoWiz_KeeD: I don't know how to remove it, but if it helps, pressing Alt+F1 or Alt+F2 should allow you to see the diagnostic output06:42
Wiz_KeeDGRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true06:43
Wiz_KeeDwhat is this?06:43
Wiz_KeeDah ok06:43
seperoWiz_KeeD: It's a timeout to select a different OS06:43
Wiz_KeeDahh yes yes, thanks06:44
seperoWiz_KeeD: If you press any keys during bootloading, the "hidden timeout" will be revealed06:45
Wiz_KeeDgotcha06:45
Dr_Willis!text06:51
ubottuTo start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode06:51
seperoWiz_KeeD: ^^^^06:52
matthieu__tes06:52
vinsc'est la cité06:52
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matthieu__vins pd06:52
Guest14752c'toi l'pd06:52
Wiz_KeeDyay Dr_Willis hits a home run!06:57
Wiz_KeeDyet the link does not show how to do that sepeck06:58
Wiz_KeeDsepero*06:58
Wiz_KeeDappending -text06:58
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seperoWiz_KeeD: you have to scroll down to the bottom  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_boot_options_Permanently_for_an_Existing_Installation07:00
seperoWiz_KeeD: It looks like the file to edit is   /boot/grub/grub.cfg07:01
bazhangsepero, you never edit that directly07:01
Dr_Willisthe file to alter is /etc/default/grub07:02
bazhangsepero, there are quite explicit warnings about that iirc07:02
Wiz_KeeDDr_Willis, I need to add something there then because there is not much information07:03
nrdbhow do I tell if a xen vm is running pv or hvm mode?07:03
seperobazhang: someone might want to spend some more time editing the wiki to make these things clear07:04
Dr_WillisWiz_KeeD:  the forums and wiki pages give a lot of documation07:05
Dr_WillisWiz_KeeD:  what exactly are you changeing?07:05
Dr_Willis!grub207:05
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub207:05
seperoI'm more used to the old grub07:06
sepero*familiar07:06
TimtimoMorin'07:06
TimtimoHave a little question again... Is there a known bug in Ubuntu 12.04 with gnome transparent panels?07:06
Wiz_KeeD/etc/default/grub Dr_Willis07:07
Wiz_KeeDhttp://pastie.org/835649107:08
Timtimogot it07:08
Timtimoty07:08
Dr_WillisWiz_KeeD:  and what are you wanting to change?07:10
Wiz_KeeDdisplay terminal infromation from the seccond I boot ubuntu :)07:10
Dr_Willisand that setting is what one?07:10
Dr_Willisyou want to use text mode?  or what exactly?07:10
Wiz_KeeDThat's what I don't know, doesn't appear to be there07:10
Wiz_KeeDif that's what it means yeah I guess07:10
Dr_Willis'quiet splash' -> try 'noquiet nosplash text nofb'  in that file and rerun 'sudo update-grub'07:11
Wiz_KeeDand uncomment it? are you sure?07:12
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Dr_Willisno.. you Change the line07:13
Dr_Willisit should allready be uncommented as far as i have seen07:14
wiiwDr_Willis: how to boot like gentoo : xxx  ...  [ok]07:14
Dr_Williswiiw:  no idea. gentoo uses radically differnt boot scripts.07:14
wiiwoh.07:14
Wiz_KeeDwhat is this? Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-30-generic07:15
Dr_WillisGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="noquiet nosplash nofb text"07:15
seperoWiz_KeeD: You can add the line Dr_Willis wrote at the end of the file07:16
Wiz_KeeDi just changed that one07:16
Wiz_KeeDI'll reboot to see what happens07:16
Dr_Willisthat file seems to have been altered its not looking like my ubuntu default /etc/default/grub07:16
seperoWiz_KeeD: ok. it obviously can't have # at the front07:16
Dr_Willisdid you rerun update-grub?07:16
Wiz_KeeDI have commented that Dr_Willis07:16
Wiz_KeeDyes sir07:16
wiiwDr_Willis: need put nofb before text ?07:17
Dr_Willisdosent matter07:18
Dr_Willis nofb = disables the framebuffer07:19
IamTryingIs this package applicable for 64-bit, no description showing either is it 32/ or 64-bit? "apt-cache show linux-headers-3.2.0-41"07:21
fideli need to check a local html file if all hrefs have valid/existing targets. any idea how to do so? i.e. using lynx or similar?07:22
Dr_Willis!headers07:22
ubottuTo install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages07:22
IamTryingDr_Willis, i am in a kernel 3.5 i know kernel 3.5 crashing my system and i know 3.2.0.-41 is the stable for my can and i know that i have to install. So image is installed07:23
IamTryingDr_Willis, but my uname -a is still showing 3.507:23
IamTryingDr_Willis, if i now do apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)   that is wrong in my case07:24
IamTryingBecause i do not want to live in 3.5 kernel07:24
IamTryingmy kernel is 3.207:24
Wiz_KeeDthank God i've learned a little bit of linux otherwise I would have been in the sack now07:25
Wiz_KeeDIt stopped loading the GUI and I was faced with just the terminal07:26
IamTryingIs this correct to have 3.2 ? $ apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic  linux-headers-3.2.0-41-generic linux-headers-3.2.0-4107:26
IamTryingCause last time ikonia instructed me and it was failed07:26
Wiz_KeeDhaha :))07:26
IamTrying:)07:26
Dr_Willisuname -r prints out the version #07:27
Dr_Willisso replace it with whatever # you need07:28
seperoWiz_KeeD: sudo nano /etc/default/grub07:28
IamTryingOK  - Dr_Willis , last question bugging my brain. Why would i install in 64-bit Ubuntu this two packages? linux-headers-3.2.0-41-generic linux-headers-3.2.0-4107:28
Wiz_KeeDnah, to hell with that sepero i'm done :))07:28
Dr_WillisWiz_KeeD:  thats what text mode does.07:28
seperoWiz_KeeD: kk07:28
Dr_Willis!text07:28
ubottuTo start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode07:28
Dr_WillisWiz_KeeD:   "text only mode" :)    'sudo service lightdm' to start lightdm07:28
Wiz_KeeDI just wanted the gui to stop showing on boot so I get the loading ... [OK]. which i did get but not instantly, there was a 3 seccond pause with the purple background until that came in07:29
Wiz_KeeDI just commented the line leave it be XD07:29
seperoDr_Willis: I think Wiz_KeeD just wants to see linux kernel and bootup info, then boot into regular xwindows07:29
Wiz_KeeDyep that is...not sure about the xwindows, what's that? :))07:30
Dr_Willislightdm is a service and CAN start up  befor you have all the boot messages07:30
Dr_WillisWiz_KeeD:  sounds like you sould go play/learn up on some more basic stuff of linux. :) and leave twiddling with things that canbreak your system for later.07:30
seperoWiz_KeeD: xwindows/xorg/xserver = unity or kde or whatever desktop07:30
Wiz_KeeDheh, yeah i'm good for now :)07:31
Dr_Willisgrub2 is worth reading up on and learning however.  just in case07:31
Dr_Willisbut it can get rather obscure if you dont understand the other parts of the syste07:31
Wiz_KeeDStill got a lot to learn, but at least I have a somewhat decent base07:31
Dr_Willissystem07:31
Wiz_KeeDAnd I'm not toally lost when something bad happens, can track it down a bit and all that07:31
Dr_Willismy ssd based system boots so fast i cant even read the messages07:32
Wiz_KeeDhahah :))07:32
Wiz_KeeDYeah, I'd love a ssd as well :-<07:32
Dr_Willisthe bios takes longer to post..07:32
seperoWiz_KeeD: if you're not afraid of the terminal, you're already ahead of most ppl07:32
Wiz_KeeDnah, i love the terminal, would use as often as possible :X07:32
Wiz_KeeDI don't even edit files in gui, i like to vim :X07:32
IamTryingIs this the correct line? set timeout=${GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT:--1}07:32
IamTryingset timeout=${GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT:--1}   to set -0 ?07:33
seperoI used to be an emacs pro. Nowadays I just use nano  lol07:33
ihrevim <307:34
makarahi. If I place a window using a keyboard shortcut (ccsm, grid utility), then when I press F11 to fullscreen, it doesn't work. If I place the window, stretch it slightly, and then F11, it goes into fullscreen fine.07:34
makarasepero, I use a command line and geany07:35
seperogeany <307:36
sepero  ;)07:36
IamTryingEverytime i boot, system boot to MemTest86 v4.20 not Ubuntu. And if i press shift key i do not get GRUB07:37
seperomakara: it would seem to be a bug where your window manager is intercepting the F11 key07:37
IamTryingset timeout=${GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT:--1}  to set timeout=${GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT:-0}  and update-grub07:37
IamTryingHow can i go to Grub and boot in Ubuntu ?07:37
IamTryingThis happen Twice , ikonia and now myself again. Its a BUG in Grub menu selection.07:38
Dr_Willisonly time ive seen it boot to memtest by default is when someone accidently removed all their kernels ;007:39
seperoIamTrying: perhaps remove memtest from the boot list?07:39
Dr_Willispress and hold shft.. or set the grub configs to not auto-hide grub07:39
IamTryingDr_Willis, no i have not removed kernel, i switch the Debug kernel boot to value 3 which is my kernel 3.2 not memtest07:39
IamTryingsepero, ? how ? i have every boot instantly MemTest86 scree07:40
Dr_Willisgrub starts counting at 0 for that - dosent it? so 3 would be the 4th menu utem07:40
IamTryingsepero, ? how ? i have every boot instantly MemTest86 screen, no boot menu07:40
Dr_Willisor sm i backwards on that07:40
seperoDr_Willis: i believe you are correct07:40
IamTryingDr_Willis, even my 3 was wrong it should have booted in Ubuntu 3.2 recovery mood not memtest07:41
Dr_Willisyou should still get the grub menu if you press and hold shift07:41
IamTryingDr_Willis, this is not first time it failed, ikonia also have seen this and myself i have done this and its like 10th time the boot failed and booting to wrong kernel or boot menu. Is this a BUG?07:41
IamTryingDr_Willis, that is the problem i am not getting Grub menu before reboot i did this: set timeout=${GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT:-0}07:42
Dr_Willisive never sene it happen tome. and cant recall seeing anyone else  mention it in here07:43
IamTrying1) reboot 2) pressing brute force shift key or holding shift key 3) still boot to Memtest8607:43
IamTryingHow can i on this situation get Grub screen at-least which is not showing at all ?07:44
Dr_Willisso you used the bash command   'set   timeout ......'   but dident rerun 'sudo update-grub' ?07:44
IamTryingDr_Willis, i did update-grub after changing the /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/00_header07:44
seperoIamTrying: Remove memtest?  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17787/clean-up-the-new-ubuntu-grub2-boot-menu/07:44
Dr_Willisperhaps it would be best to use a  live cd and change them back. and be sure grub is unhidden07:45
IamTryingsepero, GOD, i wish i can at-least get the GRUB Screen first. Without that screen i cant do anything.07:45
ubuntu#unrEVOkedtest07:45
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IamTryingDr_Willis, Can you please advise so as of this moment 1) i am putting LiveCD now 2) what next? i do not want to lose my whole existing setup in the disk07:46
Dr_Willisyou dont losoe your setup because of grub.. you fix grub. ;)07:46
Dr_Willisthere should be some guides on reinstalling grub from a live cd. or restore the files and use the boot-repair tool07:47
Dr_Willis!fixboot07:47
Dr_Willis!fixgrub07:47
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub207:47
sepero!fixgrub07:47
IamTryingDr_Willis, again wired. 1) i put CD-ROM liveCD 2) it straight showing me booting to Ubuntu in LiveCD07:47
IamTryingDr_Willis, should i boot in LiveCD or i should had a Grub screen of LiveCD?07:47
Dr_Willislive cd dosent have a grub screen as far as i know.07:48
Dr_Willisits using syslinux07:48
IamTryingOK - Thank you Dr_Willis it was perfect instructions, which i was unable to fix this issue and was very confusing. now clear thank you, have a nice morning.07:49
* Dr_Willis closes the ticket07:49
seperolol07:50
kristalI have 2 programs installed, when i run foo in terminal is runs bar but I want foo to run... how do I get the right bin to fire off i set .bashrc and that did nothing even though if i echo the value it's right07:52
bazhang!details | kristal07:52
ubottukristal: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."07:52
Dr_Willisgive the full path to the one yu want to run?07:52
vltkristal: First check with `which foo`07:52
Dr_Willis'set .bashrc to do/be what exactly?07:53
kristalThe program that runs when i run foo is in the place basically all bins are, /bin, but I want to run a bin from /home/me/project/bin07:54
aeon-ltdtalkin bout alias?07:54
kristalI need to toggle between the two07:54
aeon-ltdkristal: why don't you just have different names?07:54
kristalaeon-ltd: Because software/script expects a specific name.07:54
Dr_Williskristal:  set your PATH to have the one you want first.. be the first in the path. OR set an alias of the same name to point to the exact full path07:55
kristalI'm making a drop-in replacement and right now i'm moving the bin back and fourth by hand...07:55
Dr_Willisthen change the alias as needed07:55
seperokristal: temporary solution: alias name="/home/me/project/bin/name"07:55
kristalHmm, I guess I could just script an alias toggle...07:56
Dr_Willisalias an alias toggle07:56
seperokristal: Whichever path you put first in $PATH is the first that will be called07:56
Dr_Willis;)07:56
kristalDr_Willis: lol yup, alias an alias toggle which checks the alias against my desired alias...07:57
Dr_Willisor make a soft link, in your bin that you change07:57
Dr_Willisbut that would affect all shells. an alias would be localized to the current shell07:58
kristalhmm... could toggle a symlink, but if the package updates that'd break things07:58
CoUbuntuHello is this the right place for asking about  ubuntu server?07:59
aeon-ltd#ubuntu-server07:59
aeon-ltdCoUbuntu: no, see above07:59
auronandaceaeon-ltd: here is acceptable too08:00
kristalIt's funny how much this channel flys at peak, much slower now... almost need 2 ubuntu channels peak08:00
seperoCoUbuntu: It depends on whether we can answer the question here or not  ;D08:00
aeon-ltdit's nighttime across the us08:01
Dr_Willis4 am here08:01
aeon-ltdexactly08:01
reisioused to play a MMOG that would automatically split out a new "room" (arena) whenever the population got to FOO08:02
aeon-ltdit's 9 in gmt, so students at school, people at work etc08:02
aeon-ltdand that covers most of the english speaking time zones but aus08:02
nibblerlike the english....08:03
starnixHello people08:05
seperohi08:06
kristalSoo SteamOS seems to be an Ubuntu distro... brace for millions of questions08:06
starnixIs there anyway to install gnome 3.10 on ubuntu 13.04?08:06
bazhangkristal, no its not08:06
aeon-ltdthat was fast08:06
auronandacestarnix: probaby but it isn't supported here08:06
kristalstarnix: There's a PPA but it's kinda broken, although it works for 13.10, and will work great on 14.0408:06
aeon-ltdstarnix: should be08:06
bazhangstarnix, it's still 3.808:06
kristalUbuntu-gnome beta has .10.... i think08:07
kristalnops it's .808:07
aeon-ltdstarnix: if anything anything is installable with the right dependencies it just gets harder to. official repos --> ppas --> pre compiled debs/scripts --> compiliatiion08:07
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rosco_yDoes anyone know why the HP Device Manager - Plug-in Installer runs every time I login to my account?08:08
IamTryingDr_Willis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6157801/  - Thank you this was your guide which fixed the problem.08:08
IamTryingikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6157801/ - here this was your fault you have made me confused to select 2 or 4 , you should have mentioned me how to count the menu08:10
Dr_Willischanges update-grub && update-grub2 <<<---  those 2 commands do the same thing. I think one is an alias to the other ;)08:10
IamTryingDr_Willis, OK but system making user confuse which one to use. If you boot the Grub version show not Grub208:11
Dr_Willissomt things in grub2 count starting with 0.. some start with 1. its a little bit confuseing at times08:11
kristalSo is Ubuntu going 3.12 or kernel 3.11... i hear 3.11 has some pretty nippy bugs08:11
IamTryingDr_Willis, then as a user point of view its confusing which one to always use08:11
sepero$ ls -l /usr/sbin/update-grub208:12
seperolrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 May 17  2012 /usr/sbin/update-grub2 -> update-grub08:12
seperoIamTrying: Use the one that is just  update-grub08:12
Dr_Willis ls -l /usr/sbin/update-grub208:12
Dr_Willislrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Sep 18 16:44 /usr/sbin/update-grub2 -> update-grub08:13
seperoThey may eventually remove the other08:13
Dr_Willis;)08:13
IamTryingOK - Great sepero . From now on i will forever use update-grub only. Because its standard and organized to use just one. Thank you much clear now08:13
flo1546796hi, have anyone ever setut virtual keyboard on textfield event on ubuntu 13.04 ?08:13
flo1546796setup*08:13
rosco_yDoes anyone know why the HP Device Manager - Plug-in Installer runs every time I login to my account?08:17
aeon-ltdwell is it in your startup itema08:18
Dr_Willis   /etc/xdg/autostart/  or ~/.config/autostart  perhaos08:19
seperorosco_y: Did you buy your system with Ubuntu preinstalled?08:21
kristalSo gnome is good again, weird, but good... like kde... but with an obese window bar08:22
seperokristal: ha08:23
jnhghyanybody knows where is in hylafax the setting for the period of time the faxes are saved?08:23
seperokristal: maybe gnome will one day climb back to the top, but i'm not hopeful08:24
kristalsepero: gnome is the first to wayland, but kde is still far ahead08:24
Dr_Willisjnhghy:  try 'locate hylafax' and see if you can find a config08:24
jnhghyDr_Willis: I found a folder "config" in var/spool/hylafax this has about >60 files in it, I tried to use grep to search for 7 but havent found anything related to time period, should it be in /etc/ or something?08:26
kristaljnhghy: Does it hide any stuff on your user folder?08:27
jnhghykristal: what do you mean?08:27
kristaljnhghy: http://www.hylafax.org/content/Man_Pages_6.0.6 Oh god the documentation has no organization.08:28
jnhghyDr_Willis: I've found hyla.conf and hfaxd.conf in /etc/hylafax but no mention of time period in them...08:29
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rosco_ysepero: ty, no I didn't08:29
IamTryingIs there any package available for: apt-cache search cefpython  not found ( https://code.google.com/p/cefpython/wiki/PyGTK )08:32
jnhghykristal: thanks for the link, but these are not the files I found under /var/spool/hylafax, I'm guessing I have to search for them... but they are not under /etc/hylafax either... will keep searching, thanks again08:32
kristaljnhghy: I wonder if they have an irc...08:33
jnhghykristal: I wonder if sarcasm is the result of too much support on irc :)...08:34
kristalEveryone should use IRC, and every project have a channel.08:34
kristalMicrosot cororate support, $400 a month, no IRC, only crappy email, and indians using RDP.08:36
jokoonhello08:39
jnhghykristal: I didn't want to upset you, I just find it funny that everybody offering support gets sarcasm ... it happens to me too ... I really appriciated your link.08:40
Dr_Willisid  bet its a setting not shown by default in the files in /etc/ jnhghy08:41
jokoonI added some broadcom proprietary driver in the additionnal drivers tab in the synaptic settings, but when I click on apply change, it gets stuck08:41
jokooncan someone help me ?08:41
Dr_Willisthe man pages may mention the setting  jnhghy08:41
jnhghyDr_Willis: thanks for the suggestion, i'm in the man pages now...08:41
devilmaycrywho can help me08:43
Dr_Willis!ask08:43
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience08:43
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devilmaycryI  can't shutdown my ubuntu08:45
TimtimoHey :b08:45
Timtimome again... Someone running CompizConfig with Ubuntu? :)08:45
devilmaycryalways restart or just log off08:45
Timtimotalking to me? :D08:46
Timtimomy problem is, that I'd like to use transparent panels, they are working but the menus are still grey :/08:46
TimtimoAnd every setting I'm changing in CompizConfig aren't working08:47
devilmaycry:/08:47
levoi need a GUA software for data recovery08:47
levoubuntu 12.0408:48
Dr_Willisnot sure you can do transparent menus. Never really tried.  #compiz may have some suggestions Timtimo08:48
kristallevo: What type of partition you trying to recover?08:48
levokristal: windows 7 (usb drive)08:48
Timtimohey Willis, thanks for answer.. searched for it a long time and tried much settings but not even one is working08:48
kristallevo: NTFS or FAT?08:49
Timtimoits like that it isn't active08:49
levokristal: not sure08:49
Dr_WillisTimtimo:  are you refering to gnome-shell? or using gnome classic mode? or  unity and the global-menus08:49
kristallevo: what does gparted say about the flash drive?08:49
TimtimoI'm running Ubuntu 12.04 and running Gnome without effects08:50
Timtimothe light design one...08:50
levokristal: fat3208:50
kristalTimtimo: 12.04, man, you don't know how much better gnome is these days, 13.10 is nice.08:51
Timtimoi tried 13.10 but at this time i didn't know how to install gnome :b08:51
kristalTimtimo: You'll like this: http://ubuntugnome.org/08:51
jokooncan someone explain to me why synaptic doesn't want to start in admin mode ?08:51
kristaljokoon: have you tried to sudo synaptic in terminal?08:52
Timtimothe name sounds well (was this correct? :D08:52
Timtimo)08:52
caraconanHi there. Can somebody please clarify what will happen in my case if I run 'sudo do-release-upgrade'? http://paste.debian.net/46339/ Apparently my ubuntu server is up to date08:52
ActionParsnipjokoon: why use it when software centre is default installed?08:52
ActionParsnipcaraconan: you will upgrade to the next release08:52
kristalActionParsnip: I can guess - synaptic is a very powerful tool compared to software centre.08:52
jokoonActionParsnip, eclipse cdt is not in software centre08:52
ActionParsnipcaraconan: if you are on LTS, it wil search for the next LTS, assuming you haven't edittedc configs08:53
kristalcaraconan: Do you have PPAs?08:53
ActionParsnipkristal: they both install and remove packages, how is on more powerful?08:53
caraconanPPA? I don't know sorry08:53
jokoonkristal, it worked before, why doesn't it now ?08:53
ActionParsnipjokoon: synaptic uses the same package system as software centre08:53
caraconanAt the moment the only thing I did is to manually upgrade packages, nothing else08:53
levokristal: datarecovery - usb disk - fat3208:54
caraconanMy current version is Ubuntu server 12.04 (Quantal)08:54
RogueCoderhello08:54
reisio'lo08:54
Timtimobut i cant reinstall it another time .808:54
kristalcaraconan: If you have any custom repos you'd have to update them before dist upgrading... you know the next LTS is 14.04, really nice, 6 months away though...08:54
jokoonActionParsnip, I cant find eclipse cdt with the lubuntu software centre08:54
cfhowlettcaraconan: false. 12.04 is NOT quantal.  verify your data08:54
Timtimo:(08:54
cfhowlett!quantal08:54
ubottu12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) was the 17th release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Notes: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120408:54
caraconanWel,, 12.10 then08:55
caraconanlsb_release is not working08:55
kristallevo: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery for some info08:56
ActionParsnipcaraconan: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue08:56
kristallevo: Also, before you mess with recovery, you may want to rip the raw data from the drive.08:56
TimtimoSo I'm back guys08:57
TimtimoIs there another way to set the menus transparent08:57
Timtimo?08:57
caraconanUbuntu 12.10 \n \l08:57
kristaljokoon: Are there any processes running that use the package manager? sometimes that prevents syn from running, try starting it from terminal, report result08:57
ActionParsnipcaraconan: then it's quantal. quantal is not LTS08:58
ActionParsnipcaraconan: if you run:  sudo do-release-upgrade   you will upgrade to Raring which is EOL in January 2014, Quantal is EOL in July 2014.08:59
ActionParsnipcaraconan: strange you are not using 12.04 for a server08:59
ActionParsnipcaraconan: 12.04 is LTS and EOL in April 201708:59
cfhowlettcaraconan: LTS is highly preferred for server use ...09:00
caraconanActionParsnip: thanks, I need to learn a little bit more about Ubuntu release policies09:00
kristalLTS is great for server, but sometimes you need the newer software...09:00
caraconanSo if I don't move my release, in Feb 2014 if I try a package upgrade nothing will happen, right?09:01
ActionParsnipcaraconan: every 2 years in APril there is an LTS09:01
ActionParsnipcaraconan: you can upgrade from 13.04 t 13.10 next month, then to 14.04 LTS in April next year09:02
caraconanThanks a lot everybody for the information09:02
Wiz_KeeDEasiest way to add a new user to sudoers?09:03
Wiz_KeeDand make a new user09:03
RogueCoderi'm having some issues here .. trying to install ssmtp but it's not really working out :P09:03
RogueCoderhttp://pastebin.com/C3zWgQpF here's my attempt09:03
Wiz_KeeDadduser user then adduser user sudo?09:03
cfhowlett!adduser|Wiz_KeeD:09:03
ubottuWiz_KeeD:: To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "sudo" - See !sudo09:03
RogueCodersais that libgnutls-openssl27 requires libgnutls26.. but libgnutls26 sais it's already up to date09:04
RogueCoderi've tried apt-get update && apt-get upgrade09:04
cfhowlettRogueCoder: apt-get dist-upgrade09:04
Wiz_KeeDnow a better question, how do you rename a user?09:05
RogueCodercfhowlett: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.09:05
SDrhi, I've got nginx recompiled from source, however after system reboot, it's not coming up automagically, even though there's an nginx file in /etc/init.d any ideas what I should be poking at?09:10
SDrlast line on boot screen is /etc/rc2.d/S21sendmail: 1287: /usr/sbin/sendmail-msp: not found09:10
SDr[ OK ]09:10
SDr/etc/init.d/nginx start    works, though, so, wth?09:10
omg_scoutSDr: stupid answer, but sometimes helps: did you enable the script?09:11
SDromg_scout, what specifically do you mean by enable?09:11
omg_scoutDid you add it to runlevel09:11
Lunar_LampSDr: just having a script in /etc/init.d will not autmatically start it at boot, you need to add that script to the relevant runlevel.09:11
Wiz_KeeDHow do I permanently remove a user and it's home directory?09:12
SDrno. how can I do that?09:12
omg_scoutSDr: update-rc.d nginx defaults09:12
Lunar_Lampe.g. update-rc.d nginx defaults09:12
Lunar_Lamp(to add it to the default runlevels, which is most likely what you want)09:12
SDr System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/nginx already exist.09:12
Wiz_KeeDsudo deluser –remove-home username ?09:12
frostropmy firefox keeps crashing on some pages (like this: http://goo.gl/CJVfzn ). is this a flash-plugin issue?09:14
Psil0Cybinhey guys how can i get wifi direct to work with ubuntu 12.04?09:14
Psil0Cybini have a laptop and im connected to the wireless network09:14
Psil0Cybini want to do this to transfer a file off my android to my laptop09:15
jokoonso ubuntu doesnt have a archive manager by default which supports 7z files09:19
Wiz_KeeDdon't think so09:19
reisiojokoon: file-roller should just fine09:19
DJones!7zip | jokoon09:20
ubottujokoon: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression09:20
reisioand also probably ark and xarchiver09:20
cfhowlettPsil0Cybin: take the easy way.  install airdroid on your phone and transfer away09:20
RogueCodercan it be that it doesn't want to install libgnutls26 2.12.20-7 because I have something depending on 2.12.14-5?09:20
reisioyou would have to make sure p7zip were installed, of course09:20
jokoonI had many bugs with lubuntu, is lubuntu community supported ? what is a lxde distrib which has the best support ?09:21
jokoonfor a macbook pro ?09:22
Dr_Willislubuntu wull be an official LTS i think in the next lts  cycle.09:22
ActionParsnipjokoon: install unp and you can extract archives with a single command09:22
reisiojokoon: bugs?09:22
ActionParsnipjokoon: you will need unace to extact ace files09:22
Dr_Williscant say ive really noticed many bugs in lubuntu. ;)09:22
Dr_Williscant think of any actually09:23
ActionParsnip<3 lubuntu09:23
ActionParsnipDr_Willis: probably due to no Compiz stinking the place up09:23
auscompgeekyeah, that's pretty much why09:23
jokoonfor example I wanted to install an additionnal driver, I had it stuck several times for no reasons09:23
cfhowlett!mac|jokoon: macs and ubuntu aren't always 100% .... not a bug, but the reality09:23
ubottujokoon: macs and ubuntu aren't always 100% .... not a bug, but the reality: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages09:23
reisiohaven't seen an ace file in ages09:23
RogueCoderwhen running apt-get check i doesn't give me any info about broken packages09:23
ActionParsnipreisio: yeah, used to be a thing in the early 2000s09:24
jokoonisn't a distrib which is recommended for macs ?09:24
Dr_Willisjokoon:   use the jocky-cli app perhaps09:24
ActionParsnipRogueCoder: try:  sudo apt-get -f install09:24
reisiojokoon: using any other DE with the same version of Ubuntu would've had the same driver issue, if indeed that's what it was09:24
Dr_Willisjokoon:  or just determine the package name and use the package manager tool to install it09:24
reisio7z supports so much that folk don't use anymore :)09:24
jokoonreisio, DE ?09:24
reisiodesktop environment (LXDE, GNOME, KDE, etc.)09:24
RogueCoderkeeps telling me I held broken packages, but apt-check returns nothing09:25
jokoonreisio, oh ok09:25
jokoonother question I had "france" in the repo download location, I can't put france back up, only download locartions under france09:26
MACscrShouldnt these networkign settings work? http://hastebin.com/yanuriseyu.cpp. I just dont get why i cant access it through ssh anymore externally, but it can get to the internet fine through eth0. i didnt change any settings on eth0, just added settings for the secondary nic.09:26
Psil0Cybinthats it cfhowlett09:28
Psil0Cybinairdroid?09:28
jokoonother question: I use the touchpad, and often I touch it while typing and it messes up what I type, isn't there something to detect those mistakes ? under mac it doesn't happen...09:31
cfhowlettPsil0Cybin: yep.  it's in google play sotre09:31
cfhowlettjokoon: you might be able to alter the keypad/mouse settings sensitivity09:32
ActionParsnipjokoon: thats because the MAc OS is designed specifically for your hardware09:32
ActionParsnipjokoon: its why you pay more for a mac09:32
jokoonActionParsnip, I use the same macbook, isn't there a better driver for the touchpad ?09:33
jokoonor some settings in ubuntu09:33
ActionParsnipjokoon: have you tried enabling the disable touchpad while I type09:33
jokoonwhere is this setting09:33
ActionParsnipjokoon: under mouse settings maybe....09:34
Dr_Willisive seen 'disable touchpad on typing'  but it dosent work on every laptop ive had ubuntu on09:34
Dr_Willislike this netbook.09:34
jokoonActionParsnip, no it's not there09:34
hello231hello i was just wondering why i downland sooo slowly now row Ubuntu servers,PS i have fiber Internet,just a stupid comment bu hello,:)09:35
ActionParsnipjokoon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad09:35
ActionParsnipjokoon: used google, took me 3 seconds to find09:35
ActionParsnipjokoon: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-help/mouse-disabletouchpad.html09:35
Dr_Willisi definatly have a 'disable touchpad on typeing' here on xubuntu09:35
cfhowletthello231: torrent is better usually faster ...09:36
ActionParsnipjokoon: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/ubuntu-automatically-disable-touchpad.html09:36
AscavasaionLatest LTS release is 13.04?  How do I upgrade to it please?  Thank you.09:36
cfhowlett!lts|Ascavasaion:09:37
ubottuAscavasaion:: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)09:37
ActionParsnipAscavasaion: 13.04 is not LTS09:37
ActionParsnipAscavasaion: 13.04 is EOL in January 201409:37
AscavasaionActionParsnip: Thank you.09:37
ActionParsnipAscavasaion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases09:37
hello231cfhowlett thanks09:37
jokoonseems hacky... :/09:38
cfhowletthello231: no problem ..09:38
ActionParsnipjokoon: how so?09:38
jokoonthe shell script thing09:38
ActionParsnipjokoon: its a great feature so you dont accidently knock the touchpad while you are typing09:39
ActionParsnipjokoon: how is that hacky?09:39
jokoonthe link you gave me on webupd809:39
ActionParsnipjokoon: its just a script that reads the state then turns the setting to the other option. How is that hacky?09:40
ActionParsnipjokoon: there is this which is prettier09:41
jokoonask any non programmer. that's not a problem I'll try to do eithout09:41
jokoonwithout09:41
ActionParsnipjohttp://lifehacker.com/5843207/touchpad+indicator-for-ubuntu-lets-you-quickly-enable-or-disable-a-laptop-touchpad09:41
ActionParsnipjokoon: but its essentially the sam thing, just pretty09:41
ActionParsnipjokoon: is the indicator way 'hacky' as well?09:41
jokoonI want the touchpad to be disabled when I type09:42
hello231i was just thinking instaling it bekuse i have a lot of crazy friends that is on the computer and doing crazy things09:42
jokoonautomatically09:42
ActionParsnipjokoon: then use the setting. Its a feature of your OS09:42
ActionParsnipjokoon: search the web and you'll find guides09:43
jokoonActionParsnit in itp, I use lubuntu, it's no09:43
jokoonActionParsnip, I use lubuntu, its not in it09:43
ActionParsnipjokoon: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=lubuntu+disable+touchpad+as+I+type&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&gws_rd=cr&ei=1wFEUsGqDZH07Ab7qIHABA09:43
ActionParsnipjokoon: LOTS of guides09:44
jokoonyes I found09:44
jokoonone09:44
jokoonearlier, I also earched09:44
jokoons09:44
ActionParsnipjokoon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Mouse#Disable_touchpad_while_typing09:44
jokoonI already followed that one09:45
ActionParsnip!inf gpointing-device-settings09:45
jokoondon't know if I have to reboot or log out09:45
ActionParsnipjokoon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1695470  you can do it in xorg.conf09:46
ActionParsnipjokoon: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?t=31591&f=809:46
jokoonhe has sensitivity problems09:48
ActionParsnipjokoon: you can see what I am doing right...just search the web and you will get links. That is literally all I am doing09:49
jokoon... I already found stuff before you told me to search, I just asked my question first09:50
fudus(try lubuntu's channel instead)09:50
ActionParsnipjokoon: did you check the mac documentation for ubuntu as well?09:50
ActionParsnip!mac09:50
ubottuFor help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages09:50
ActionParsnipjokoon: they may have tweaks to make the OS run better on the hardware09:50
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fudusit is an option in main ubuntu's mouse settings if you are wondering, so it is lubuntu's problem09:51
jokoonwhy lucid ? does it mean 10.04 is better for my mac than 13.04 ?09:51
jokoonI have a 5,5 macbook09:52
fudusgo to lubuntu's channel and ask09:52
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ActionParsnipjokoon: let me see09:53
quietonehi, I can't ssh from ubuntu server to ubuntu desktop, all 12.0409:53
ActionParsnipjokoon: seen this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-5/Precise09:53
quietoneasking for passphrase09:54
rish007i like i like09:54
ActionParsnipquietone: is openssh-server installed on the deskop system?09:54
babilenquietone: Do you, by chance, have the debug output of the SSH connection attempt? ;)09:54
themillquietone: don't make people wade through the same game again -- please offer information without people having to beg for it09:54
babilenquietone: And yes, we've been through all of this in #debian, just offer all information and links to the relevant pastebins upfront. ActionParsnip will appreciate it.09:55
quietonehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6158100/    http://paste.debian.net/46359/09:57
jokoonwell thanks for the help !09:57
babilenquietone: You obviously (and rightfully!) set a passphrase for your key. The key you offer (cf. "Offering RSA public key: /home/quietone/.ssh/id_rsa") if accepted (cf. "Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 279"), but you have to enter the passphrase for you key.09:57
babilens/if/is/09:57
gregor3005hi, does anybody ever used a wiimote with ubuntu 13? i installed wmgui and tried to connect but it always crashed :-(10:00
gregor3005ah the module uinput is not loaded10:01
babilenquietone: Does that answer your question?10:01
quietonebabilen, no10:02
babilenquietone: How so?10:02
babilenquietone: (and why didn't you say so immediately?)10:02
quietonebabilen, your answer has changed the question and I'm trying to find the words10:02
babilenquietone: Okay, let me know once you finished mulling it over in your brain10:03
rhobotI had a boyfriend named ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.10:04
rhobotI had a boyfriend named ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.10:04
rhobotI had a boyfriend named ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.10:04
FloodBot1rhobot: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:05
gregor3005"modprobe uinput" does not help, i give no error but uinput is still not loaded10:05
quietonebabilen, I think I have answered it my self. And besides it is late, a good night sleep will do the rest10:05
quietonebabilen, thank you very much10:06
babilenquietone: okay: something for free: If you don't want to enter your passphrase over and over again don't decide against using one, but use tools such as ssh-agent and add the key once using ssh-add10:06
fudusremove it and let everyone connect to it whoo10:07
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quietonebabilen, I've made a note of that, thx10:09
quietonegood night10:09
babilengood night10:09
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dayadaya@ubuntu:~$ c=30 daya@ubuntu:~$ readonly c daya@ubuntu:~$ c=50 > /dev/null 2>&1 -bash: c: readonly variable10:29
dayaany idea to remove the readonly warning10:29
auronandacedaya: perhaps ask in #bash10:31
dayaauronandace: ok10:32
BlitzHereHi all10:41
BlitzHereI have this bug10:41
BlitzHerehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/106540010:41
ubottuUbuntu bug 1065400 in linux (Ubuntu Raring) "Support for loading Broadcom bluetooth firmware" [Medium,Fix committed]10:41
BlitzHereIt says fix committed10:41
BlitzHereDo I enable the fix by just loading raring proposed repos?10:42
BlitzHereANd doing an sudo apt-get upgrade?10:42
kristalBlitzHere: Maybe there's a PPA with it already compiled, proosed is a good place to look.10:42
Dr_Willisthe fix should eventually make its way into the updated packages BlitzHere  - it may not be in the current updates. it may take some time.10:43
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BlitzHerekristal, Dr_Willis: Ok, I'm going to enable proposed repos and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:45
BlitzHereHope I don't kill my system10:45
Dr_Williswhy would updateing things kill a system  ;)10:46
BlitzHereDr_Willis: I've had weird issue with Nvidia drivers and proposed repos last year...10:47
HenricVill att enbart 1 grupp skall få tillgång till en mapp (+undermappar). Alltså rwx och resten ska inte ha någon åtkomst. Hur gör jag det lättast?10:48
HenricÄr i terminal så fixar från där :)10:49
Dr_Willisi cant even really recall ever enabling proposed.. but i tend to stick to the latest releases anyway ;)10:49
HenricWrong thread, my bad10:49
BlitzHereOn another note, it says that fix released on ubuntu saucy. Is there anything I can do to get it committed?10:50
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lesshastewhen is the next lts version?10:52
DJoneslesshaste: 14.0410:52
Dr_Willisevery 2 years lesshaste  i belive. ;)10:53
Dr_Willisbut i imagine they could alwyas change that.10:53
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lesshasteDJones, do you know that is due?10:53
lesshastewhen that is10:53
lesshasteDr_Willis, January?10:53
Dr_Willislesshaste:  err.. the version # is the year/month of release10:53
DJoneslesshaste: As the name says , 2014 Month 0410:54
Dr_WillisNo one ever notices that.. ;)10:54
lesshasteDr_Willis, oh..thanks!10:54
lesshasteDr_Willis, including me :)10:54
lesshasteDJones, thanks10:54
Dr_Willisnow a dozen people will chime in.. 'Oh! so thats how they get those Numbers!' ;)10:54
lesshasteI want to upgrade to 64 bit which means I need to reinstall10:55
lesshastehow can I make sure not to wipe my /home ?10:55
Dr_WillisBack it up. ;)10:55
Dr_Willisand put it on a spare partion would be the best way10:55
lesshasteDr_Willis, maybe it is on a spare partition already? How do I check?10:55
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Dr_Willissee wht mount says10:56
Dr_Willisit dosent do that by default. unles syou specifcally told it to10:56
ActionParsniplesshaste: did you make a separate partition for /home?10:56
lesshasteDr_Willis, /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)  I can't interpret this modern stuff :)10:56
lesshasteActionParsnip, I can't remember.. it was a looooong time ago10:56
roninls -dv dir, gives 2:owner@:execute:allow, doesn anyone know what this number 2 is there10:56
Dr_Willis /dev/mapper? isent that some lvm/raid stuff?10:56
lesshastehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6158242/10:56
lesshastethat's my mount10:56
lesshasteDr_Willis, not raid for sure10:57
Dr_Willisthats you rmount for /   not /home10:57
ActionParsniplesshaste: mount     will tell you, if not then mount the partition in liveCD and delete every folder except /home and install to the same partition but not set to format10:57
Dr_Willisif you are using LVM - i thought one feature of LVM was ease to resize the partions. but i dont use lvm. ;)10:57
lesshasteActionParsnip, that is my mount http://paste.ubuntu.com/6158242/10:57
Dr_Willisbrb10:58
lesshasteDr_Willis, right.. I though it was a clever idea at one point10:58
biopytehi there ... i'm looking for a screenshot tool (or a trick) that allows be to define a fixed screenshot area size (e.g. 200x200). i have to make fixed sized screenshots everyday and want to avoid the scaling procedure over and over over again, if possible. any idea?10:58
ActionParsniplesshaste: then you have one partition for / so you will need to arrange this as I said. Probably easiuer to just wipe clean, reinstall then restore user data from your backups10:58
ActionParsnipbiopyte: imagemagick will probably be able to do it10:59
biopytethe standard gnome screenshot tool is a bit lightweighted.10:59
lesshasteActionParsnip, I was hoping lvm could do something helpful10:59
lesshasteActionParsnip, maybe not?10:59
biopyteActionParsnip, thx i check it10:59
Guest1361I want to have the folder /shared/invoices only available to the group finance. I want them to have rwx permissions and none else. How do I do that easiest way?11:00
ActionParsniplesshaste: not used it11:00
biopyteActionParsnip, besides, do we have any other power screenshot tools in the repositories?11:00
ActionParsnipGuest1361: chown root:finance /shared/invoices; chmod 660 /shared/invoices11:00
ActionParsnipbiopyte: yes but they will need mouse input, if this is ok then use them. Shutter is decent11:00
lesshasteActionParsnip, no problem11:01
biopyteok, shutter, thx11:01
Guest1361Thanks. Can I add -R for recursively?11:01
biopytemouse is ok, the area changes but not the size11:01
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ActionParsnipGuest1361: sure11:02
ActionParsnipGuest1361: its a simple enough set of commands :)11:02
cheesecakeshello ActionParsnip11:03
cheesecakesdont have a queston just meant to say hello11:03
ActionParsniphi cheesecakes11:03
cheesecakessince this isnt offtopic will stay away from further conversation11:04
Bo_DKHi11:04
cfhowlettBo_DK: greetings11:05
Bo_DKsitting here and trying to get a python script running....11:05
metaphysicianI have an http server serving the contents of xubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso. I am trying to install on a different machine on the same network. I entered manual mirror configuration, but the netboot installer says "failed to download a file from the mirror". /var/log/syslog says "WARNING  bad d-i Packages file".11:05
Bo_DKbeen working at it for days11:05
cfhowlettBo_DK: ask in #python11:05
fire__why is that we install postfix and dovecat together and not just postfix ?11:05
Bo_DKcfhowlett: may i put up the Q first?11:05
Bo_DKits permission related11:05
Bo_DKnot python in genral11:06
cfhowlettBo_DK:   go for it11:06
metaphysicianWhy can't the netboot installer fetch the live cd contents and install from there? Or do I need a proper ubuntu mirror?11:06
Bo_DKswitching from angstrom distro it now throws a lot of persission errors11:06
Bo_DKjust a simple script to control a servo on BBB11:06
metaphysicianAccording to this howto, it should work. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet11:07
metaphysician...you can also install from a local server. One can loop-back mount the installation sources from the .ISO file. ...11:07
Bo_DKis the default image of ubuntu for BBB more restrictive than angstrom?11:08
Bo_DKBBB=Beagle Bone Black11:08
cfhowlettBo_DK: pretty esoteric query ... NO idea what BBB or angstrom are ...11:08
Dr_Williswhats the permission errors? we can understand those. ;)11:09
Bo_DKyeah... let me get those11:09
Dr_Willisive never heard of BBB or anstrom either. ;)11:09
Bo_DKBBB=beagle bone black11:09
* cfhowlett ... thinks "So, it's not must me!"11:09
Bo_DKangstrom = default distro preloaded on it when they ship11:09
Dr_Willismy dog was a beagle..  ;)  he liked bones...  but he was brown.11:10
Dr_WillisNo idea what an angstrom is. Other then somthing i slept through in science class.11:10
CatKillerUsually these embedded Ubuntu distros are heavilly trimmed down, yes11:10
Bo_DKubuntu@arm:~$ python servotest.py11:10
Bo_DKTraceback (most recent call last):11:10
Bo_DK  File "servotest.py", line 4, in <module>11:10
Bo_DK    PWM.set_duty_cycle("P9_14", 25.5)11:10
Bo_DKIOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots'11:10
FloodBot1Bo_DK: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:10
Bo_DKubuntu@arm:~$11:10
CatKillerWhat is missing from it?11:10
CatKillerSounds like you're simply having a perm issue no?11:11
Bo_DKyeah... also the reason why i'm here11:11
Bo_DKcant figure it on my own11:11
CatKillerWhat are the perms on that file?11:11
Dr_Willisso you are running some command/scripot from BBB on a Ubuntu box?11:11
Dr_Willisis there even a '/sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/' at all11:12
Bo_DKBBB is a pc if you like the term better11:12
Bo_DKyes there is11:12
Bo_DKBBB kind of micro pc... arm cortex based11:12
Dr_Willisand theres a slots file as well. ;)    thats the name for some special hardware device?11:12
Dr_Willisbone_capemgr.9 is what?   some special io/device on the bbb?11:13
biopyteActionParsnip, shutter is great ... you made my day, thank you.11:13
Bo_DKyep... you can stack extension boards on it....11:13
BlitzHereSo, I set Ubuntu to autologin because I have a BIOS password set in but a window pops up on reaching the desktop saying the login keyring did not get unloked and asking me to enter my password anyway11:13
Bo_DKmuch like an arduini11:13
Bo_DKarduino11:14
Bo_DKthey are called  capes11:14
Bo_DKhence capemgr11:14
Dr_WillisBo_DK:  sounds like the device is either owned by root, so needs to be accessed as root. or your user Might need to be in some special group to access.11:14
BlitzHereCan I make to so that I don't have to do that11:14
Dr_Williswhat does   ls -l /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/     show?11:14
BlitzHereI'd like to enter my password only when I need to make changes to system files11:15
Dr_WillisBlitzHere:  you can set a blank keyring password11:15
Dr_Williswhen it asked for the keyring password the first time. if you had entered just blank it would not ask again11:15
Bo_DKhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6158287/11:15
fire__why is that we install postfix and dovecat together and not just postfix ?11:15
Dr_Willisthe seahorse gui tool - lets you manage passwords for it11:15
Dr_Willisseahorse ->  view --> by keyring ---> set a new login password. (i think) its a KEYRING login password. not the users login password11:17
CatKillerBo_DK: What are the perms on that file?11:17
Dr_WillisBo_DK:  looks like its all  owned by root and drwxr-xr-x   which means the users can read. but not write.11:18
amcsi_workhi11:18
amcsi_workif I wanted to make cli programs that use the entire visible cli area and manipulate that (cli-gui), what do I have to look into?11:19
Dr_Willisso if the script was ran by root/with sudo rights. it should be able to access them all.11:19
gordonjcpamcsi_work: curses11:19
Bo_DKDr Willis tried sudo in front...11:19
Bo_DKlet me see if i did11:19
Dr_Willisncurses :) isent that the term?11:19
gordonjcpamcsi_work: you mean like the way that dpkg-reconfigure does its UI?11:19
Dr_Willisgood old text-based gui's for the console and terminals11:19
linuhi i have been using ubuntu 12.04,and i have installed wine on my pc,i would like to install proteus-8,but not only proteus 6,7  ratherthan  8 versions,it did not work properly, can you tell me how to install proteus using wine and is it need any other softwares which are by microsoft ? thanks in advance11:19
amcsi_worklike dpkg-reconfigure, like less, like vim etc11:20
Bo_DKnah11:20
Dr_Willis!appdb | linu11:20
ubottulinu: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help11:20
Bo_DKsudu first same deal11:20
Dr_Willis!wine | linu11:20
ubottulinu: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu11:20
amcsi_worklike those do their ui11:20
CatKillerBo_DK: Your script could drop permissions11:20
Dr_Willisamcsi_work:  ncurses is the normal tool to do fancy text type guis.11:20
CatKillerBo_DK: What is your script?11:20
amcsi_workah okay, thanks!11:21
amcsi_workdoes vim also use curses?11:21
CatKillerBo_DK: Try to change the perm to 777 for all11:21
RogueCoderthere must be some way to fix this package problem.. there's tons of stuff I'm unable to install11:21
Dr_Willisamcsi_work:  its a rather common library that many cli apps use11:21
RogueCoderall returning the same dependency issue (only with different packages)11:21
Dr_Willisamcsi_work:  https://www.google.com/search?q=ncurses+examples&client=ubuntu&hs=dBB&channel=fs&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=vhhEUqDlDcfZqQGrzoDACg&ved=0CFAQsAQ&biw=933&bih=874&dpr=1    Ncurses Examples11:21
linuDr_Willis, sorry i could'n get you?11:21
Bo_DKscript: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6158315/11:22
Dr_Willislinu:  wine help in #winehq  look at the wine app database to see what apps work in wine11:22
RogueCodernow I just tried to install ruby-rvm and it complains about "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"11:22
CatKillerBo_DK: don't know what PWM does though. I'd say change the perms first, try, and if not working it means that whatever driver s populating this /sys entry is failing11:23
amcsi_workthanks!11:23
Bo_DKPWM=Pulse Width Modulation11:23
Dr_WillisRogueCoder:  done a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' recently?  if not try them and try installing it again.11:23
CatKillerBo_DK: In which case, if dmesg is blank11:23
CatKillerBo_DK: I know what it means but not what the library does (drop priviledges etc).11:24
CatKillerSo if dmesg is blank11:24
CatKilleryou need to debug the driver I'm afraid (or find somebody who did before)11:24
Bo_DKshould have said that i'm new to linux11:24
Bo_DKand new to programming11:24
RogueCoderDr_Willis: I've done clean, update, upgrade and dist-upgrade several times today11:24
RogueCoderwhile trying to solving this issue11:24
CatKillerThe bottom line here is that the "permission denied" might not be an *actual* file permission iossue11:24
CatKillerbut an error the driver returns11:24
CatKillerwhen trying to write to this sysfs file11:25
CatKillerfiles in /sys are not real "files"11:25
CatKillerthey are functions in kernel drivers that you can access over a "file like" interface11:25
Bo_DKblack speach11:25
Bo_DK:-D11:25
CatKillerSo you can "configure" kernel drivers or "talk" to them by writing files and reading them11:25
CatKillerit's a kernel configuration interface11:25
Bo_DKfor me the key issue is to know what to do where to mae it work11:25
lordzettlo11:26
CatKillerSo try to change the permissions with chmod 777 file11:26
CatKillerand try again11:26
metaphysicianI think I found a mistake in this wiki article: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet In section "From a local server" the ISO to download and loop-mount should be an alternate image and not a desktop image. Someone please update/correct it.11:26
Bo_DKon my script?11:26
CatKillerif this doesn't work, then I'd say intensive google first11:26
Bo_DKor?11:26
CatKillerno in the Ubuntu shell11:26
CatKillersudo chmod 777 <path_to_file>11:26
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Bo_DKand what file should i do it on?11:26
RogueCoderDr_Willis: any ideas? :)11:26
Dr_Willismetaphysician:  im not sure the alternative image exists any more.11:26
CatKillerthe file that your script reports it has no access to11:27
Bo_DKah11:27
CatKiller"/sys/something/something"11:27
Dr_WillisRogueCoder:  not really. theres been like 5 people tonight with apt issues.. all fixed by doing the update/upgrade. ;)11:27
Bo_DKyeah... need to figure which one11:28
Dr_WillisRogueCoder:  theres some way you can determine why  that package is held. but i cant recall the command11:28
RogueCoderi've also tried apt-get check11:28
RogueCoderand it reports no errors11:28
Dr_WillisBo_DK:  hard core way would be to do it for everything in   /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/    :) but thats a Little extrme11:28
CatKillerBo_DK: It's in the error emssage11:28
Bo_DKgot it11:29
Bo_DKlets see11:29
metaphysician!alternate11:29
ubottuThe alternate CD has been discontinued for the main Ubuntu distro, please use and report any bugs in the !LiveCD11:29
ObrienDave!4211:30
ubottuThe Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything.11:30
Miladiir:D11:30
metaphysicianso how do I install from the desktop ISO image from a network?11:30
JuJuBeeI just ran apt-get update and get the following errors...  http://pastebin.com/iTTPwbET  I tried adding the key for the fist error and still get them.11:31
Bo_DKchmod 777 on '/sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots' did not help11:31
Bo_DKstill no access11:31
Bo_DKwhy not just remove access control all together11:32
Bo_DKfree access to everything for everyone that can access it11:32
CatKillerBo_DK: Same error message?11:32
Bo_DKyes11:33
CatKillertry to write to it from the shell using "echo"11:33
CatKillerfirst go to root11:33
CatKiller"sudo passwd root"11:33
CatKillerset a password for root11:33
CatKillerand then "su"11:33
CatKillerenter the password11:33
FloodBot1CatKiller: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:33
Bo_DKok...11:33
CatKillerthen 'echo 1 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots'11:33
Bo_DKback in a few11:33
CatKillersee if you get the same problem11:33
CatKillerI'd say the driver simply doesn't accept your command11:34
Dr_Willisyou dont need to set a password for root.11:34
Dr_Willis'sudo -s' will give you a root shell11:34
ObrienDaveJuJuBee... it looks like you will have to go through all of those and reinstall the gpg keys11:34
CatKillerDr_Willis: True true, even better11:34
JuJuBeeObrienDave: I tried to install a few and re ran update and still get all of them11:34
ActionParsnipsudo -i    is a little better, uses your user's profile?11:34
Bo_DKhmm11:35
Bo_DKroot@arm:/home/ubuntu# echo 1 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots11:35
Bo_DKbash: echo: write error: No such file or directory11:35
Bo_DKroot@arm:/home/ubuntu#11:35
Dr_WillisActionParsnip:  i never can rember. ;)11:35
ActionParsnipBo_DK: does the file exist?11:35
CatKillerBo_DK: Also this is a known issue11:36
CatKillerhttps://github.com/adafruit/adafruit-beaglebone-io-python/issues/1711:36
Dr_WillisI just see way way to many guides, other disrtos docs, and sites use 'sudo su'  i kepe thinking -s because  sudo su has s's in it11:36
Bo_DKthis is just over my head an understanding11:36
CatKillerBo_DK: Use "tab" to make sure you have the right file, maybe I didn't paste it right11:36
Bo_DKwill read that link11:36
CatKillerWhat is the version of the adafruit you use? (the library)?11:36
CatKillerfixed in 0.0.1411:36
CatKiller2 month ago which is not that long11:37
Bo_DKCatKiller: just installed the lib today11:37
Bo_DKso assume its newest11:37
CatKillerBo_DK: From where?11:38
Bo_DKadafruit11:38
CatKillerBo_DK: What version?11:38
Bo_DKfollowed their install guide11:38
Bo_DKdont know11:38
Bo_DKassume newest since i did install today11:38
CatKillerBo_DK: "newest" is really vague11:38
Bo_DKdid this: http://learn.adafruit.com/setting-up-io-python-library-on-beaglebone-black/installation-on-ubuntu11:38
CatKillermaybe it's the "newest" of the stable11:38
CatKillerwhich is 1 year odl :p11:38
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RogueCoderhere's a copy/paste of the output when trying to get ruby-rvm installed http://pastebin.com/LDV19ZL611:39
CatKillerBo_DK: By the way, what are the permissions on that file11:39
CatKillerBo_DK: Now that you ran "chmod"11:39
CatKillerBo_DK: Did they change at all?11:39
* RogueCoder hopes someone would have a look11:39
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Bo_DKCatKiller: how do i make chmod display current premission? tried --help but not clear on it11:41
Miladiirrun info over your file maybe?11:42
Miladiiror ls-l11:42
Bo_DKand how do i do a simple update of the lib to 0.0.14 ?11:42
Bo_DKinfo command not found11:43
Miladiiryeah sorry, use ls -l11:43
Bo_DKls -L just made it appear green11:43
Miladiirlowercase l11:43
Bo_DKyeah11:43
JuJuBeeI tried reinstalling the keys from my gpg errors post and still get errors for all of the same keys.11:43
Bo_DK-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root11:43
JuJuBeehttp://pastebin.com/iTTPwbET11:44
Miladiirthats 77711:44
Miladiirowned by root of user group root11:44
Bo_DKfunny there is no access still11:44
Miladiirthere we go11:44
CatKillerBo_DK: And from a shell if you echo anything do you get "Permission denied"?11:44
Bo_DKhate security11:44
Miladiirdid you issue whatever you try to do with root privileges? try to do it with sudo again11:44
Bo_DKroot@arm:/home/ubuntu# echo 1 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots11:44
Bo_DKbash: echo: write error: No such file or directory11:44
Bo_DKroot@arm:/home/ubuntu#11:44
CatKillerBo_DK: Ok, are you sure you're writing to the correct file?11:45
Miladiirtry sudo echo ........11:45
Bo_DKsame deal11:45
CatKillerCan you use "tab" to auto complete the file opath11:45
CatKillerecho 1 > /sys/<press tab> etc11:45
Bo_DKyes11:45
CatKilleruntil you let tab autocomplete "slots" (type "slo"11:45
CatKiller)11:45
CatKillersame thing?11:45
Bo_DKyes11:45
Miladiirhmmm11:45
CatKillerThat's what the driver replies11:46
Bo_DKroot@arm:/home/ubuntu# sudo echo 1 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots11:46
Bo_DKecho: write error: No such file or directory11:46
Bo_DKroot@arm:/home/ubuntu#11:46
CatKillerBo_DK: So maybe you need to echo something valid11:47
Bo_DKwhat about disable sercurity?11:47
Bo_DKie no check on anything11:47
Bo_DKno need for it anyway11:47
Miladiiryou eventually have to learn to deal with it11:47
CatKillerit's not a security issue11:47
CatKillertry that: echo am33xx_pwm > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots11:47
CatKilleras root yes11:48
Bo_DKthat did go ok11:48
Bo_DKno errors11:48
CatKilleror this11:48
CatKillerecho bone_pwm_P8_13 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots11:48
CatKillersee11:48
CatKillernot a security issue11:48
FloodBot1CatKiller: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:48
Bo_DKso the issue is?11:49
CatKillerSo the library here is either writing the wrong data (but I don't think so otherwise it would return "No such file or directory"11:49
CatKilleror it is genuinely missing permissions11:49
CatKillerin which case you need to find out its version11:49
Bo_DKconsidering hiring someone....11:50
Bo_DKmy linux skills stinks11:50
Bo_DKmore than  a skunk11:50
gordonjcpBo_DK: what are you trying to do?11:50
Miladiiri was wondering the same thing11:50
Bo_DKwhat i'm trying is to run a python script.... its just not working11:50
Bo_DKand i cant figure shit out11:50
metaphysicianIs difference between systems using PAE and non-PAE kernel, noticeable?11:51
Bo_DKdont know what is wrong11:51
Miladiirhave a link?11:51
Bo_DKyep11:51
Bo_DKhold on11:51
CatKillerBo_DK: By the way, did you checkout the #beaglebone11:51
CatKillerchannel?11:52
Bo_DKhold on11:52
CatKillerPointing them to this link: https://github.com/adafruit/adafruit-beaglebone-io-python/issues/1711:52
elangoi have wrongly mounted the pendrive on home directory,now i cant open the directories under home,somebody help me ya11:52
Bo_DKhttp://pastebin.com/seXc2Qdh11:52
CatKillerBo_DK: Also in your script can you add (below import): "print Adafruit_BBIO.__version__"?11:53
Bo_DKCatKiller: yes have been there.. simple answer from them: read teh f.... manual and learn it11:53
CatKillerBo_DK: Try that11:53
MiladiirI cannot help much here as I dont even have a clue what Adafruit is, I guess a devboard?11:53
Bo_DKMiladiir: a company11:53
MiladiirYeah, just look through the manual. Its a pain in the ass, but everyone has to go through that phase of Linux eventually11:54
CatKillerBo_DK: What's the version?11:54
Bo_DKslow down11:54
Bo_DKi'm not that fast11:54
Miladiirtake your time11:54
BluesKajHiyas all11:55
Miladiirhi11:55
Bo_DKso add to script: "print Adafruit_BBIO.__version__"?11:55
Bo_DKwithout the quotes?11:55
Bo_DKand without the ?11:55
Miladiirtry it ^^11:56
Bo_DKinserted raw it gives a syntax error11:56
DJ_U|LaptopManaged to install 13.04 overnight, but it hangs immediately after login.  Mouse and keyboard inop, no HDD activity/11:57
Bo_DKanyone up for having a poke in my system?11:59
compdocAdafruit? that arudino?12:00
gordonjcpBo_DK: which version of Python are you using?  Which distro of Linux?12:00
Bo_DKDistro: ubuntu12:01
Bo_DKhardware: BBB12:01
Bo_DKso no not arduino12:01
Bo_DKBBB=Beagle Bone Black12:02
gordonjcpBo_DK: which version of Ubuntu?12:03
Bo_DKhave no clue12:03
Bo_DKagain i stink regarding linux12:04
gordonjcpwell that's possibly part of the problem12:04
Bo_DKjust wanted to build a tracker platform12:04
gordonjcpBo_DK: so, find out exactly what you're running maybe?12:05
gordonjcpBo_DK: effectively so far you've given us "I don't know what it is but it doesn't work"12:06
Bo_DKgordonjcp: yep... cause i dont know anymore and just so damm frustrated12:07
Bo_DKcould give ip and port for ssh....12:07
Bo_DKthat i know too12:07
demon-k2008Люди здрассте!12:07
omg_scoutBo_DK: still no luck?12:07
ActionParsnipBo_DK: then how can we know anything, if you don't know...12:07
DJ_U|LaptopI don't ever remember struggling with linux anywhere close to this.  :(12:07
demon-k2008Есть кто из России?12:08
gordonjcp!ru | demon-k200812:08
ubottudemon-k2008: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.12:08
demon-k2008 /join #ubuntu-ru12:08
demon-k2008join #ubuntu-ru12:09
DJ_U|LaptopAnyone have an idea as to why 13.04 would freeze upon login?12:10
exnntechLooking for help and info on Landscape service12:10
omg_scoutDJ_U|Laptop: total freeze?12:10
compdocexnntech, never used it, but theres info on the website12:11
omg_scoutDJ_U|Laptop: I mean can you log to text terminals?12:11
exnntechDJ_U|Laptop: It could be caused by not being able to use Unity!12:11
DJ_U|LaptopIt's a toal freeze, both keyboard and mouse are unresponsive, I have to hit the reset button on the machine12:11
DJ_U|Laptoptotal*12:12
omg_scoutDJ_U|Laptop: Laptop?12:12
DJ_U|LaptopNegative, desktop12:12
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omg_scoutDJ_U|Laptop: This is propably hardware. Something unsupported, wrong drivers or broken part12:14
DJ_U|LaptopI wouldn't doubt it.  I wonder if using a set of commands at the grub loader might be able to somehow get around this.12:15
DIoX|DaZ20512:16
omg_scoutDJ_U|Laptop: I would start with taking my gfx card away and then manipulating ram chips12:16
DJ_U|Laptopgfx card isn't an option, no onboard and I don't have another PCIe GPU I could use.12:17
mn3na3aguys, anyone can help me with i8kmon configuration file?12:18
tyler_d!ask12:18
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:18
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ActionParsnipDJ_U|Laptop: what GPU do you use?12:22
DJ_U|LaptopeVga 8800 GTS 640 MB12:23
mn3na3awhat is the best config for i8kmon file12:23
ActionParsnipDJ_U|Laptop: is the CPU an ivy/sandybridge?12:23
gemma22Hello everybody. Im going to open a small store to sell shoes and i need a computer for the ticketing, stock system, give invoices to the clients and all that, My question is, may i use free ubuntu to achive that so i dont have to pay microsoft? Is there software in the ubuntu repositories to run a very small bussiness as described and control my stock with barcode scanner and those things? English is my second language, what keywords12:24
JohnVonNeumann books4electricians.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default12:24
ActionParsnipgemma22: yes its totally free12:24
DJ_U|Laptopno, it is an Intel P35 chipset CPU, Q660012:24
JohnVonNeumanndoes anyone no how 2 reach this blog : books4electricians.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default12:24
ActionParsnipDJ_U|Laptop: did you install the proprietary video driver or are you yet to do that?12:24
tyler_dgemma22, that would be a POS system, it stands for Point of Sale, there is a free one, but certainly this is off-topic as it's more related to software, not the Operating System12:25
DJ_U|LaptopThat was one thing I couldn't do during the install, network was down for a bit overnight, but since it's a total hang, I can't do any installs.12:25
mn3na3aD12:25
ActionParsnipDJ_U|Laptop: at the login screen, press CTRL+ALT+F1 and login there, run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current12:26
ActionParsnipDJ_U|Laptop: full upgrades and installs the proprietary nvidia driver12:26
gemma22oh thank you very much both ActionParsnip, tyler_d. Im happy to hear is possible, i understand the offtopic question to, i thank for the POS nomenclature that will help me search for what i need. Im just updating my old ubuntu and will search and try right away. ty again12:27
ActionParsnipgemma22: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/incopos/12:27
ActionParsnipone example12:27
crunchbangpessoal12:28
tyler_dgemma22, found through google --> http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensourcepos/12:29
DJ_U|Laptopdo I enter all the commands at once?12:29
gemma22ty actionparsnip, very nice link, im waiting for the last long term distribution to update and i will download right away12:29
ActionParsnipDJ_U|Laptop: if you wnat12:29
ActionParsnipDJ_U|Laptop: each command runs after the other12:30
ActionParsnipDJ_U|Laptop: using a wired connection will make things easier12:30
gemma22tyler_d: nice too, and i have some sql experience, i will try both12:30
tyler_dgemma22, gl12:30
DJ_U|LaptopIt's a desktop, so the only connection is wired.  :)12:30
ActionParsnipDJ_U|Laptop: cool, easy days12:31
tirengarfioI want to buy a laptop and install ubuntu, should I have any problem if the computer has windows 8 installed by default? or can I install ubuntu in any laptop?12:32
tyler_dtirengarfio, efi-boot12:33
gemma22one other question, i ordered allready the box where the change goes, it seems to be opened automaticly by the computer but it has a cable like a telephone cable, do i have to install an old phone modem in my computer to open the money storage? i though i would be usb or something, im socked with the tipe of conexion the money drawr has12:33
MoleManCould someone help me work out why my system doesn't resume from hibernate? I have set the resume= tag in Grub,might it be related to the swap being encrypted? the ouput from blikd for the swap is "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1: (blahblah"12:34
tyler_dgemma22, it's a telephone cable indeed. :)12:34
gemma22tyler_d: lol, so i have to call the drawer to be opened? hahaha, i completely dont understand12:35
tyler_dgemma22, it works on a simple signal from the terminal(computer)12:36
gemma22tyler_d: i understand, i will learn weather the software im studing can send that signal and install and modem on my computer12:37
gavin__...12:43
zottahi, i am trying to run apt-get upgrade on "Ubuntu precise (12.04.3 LTS)"12:43
zottaand it hangs:12:43
cfhowlettzotta, error messages?12:44
zottanone12:44
zottajust hangs12:44
zottaSetting up udev (175-0ubuntu9.4) ...12:44
cfhowlettzotta, running upgrade via terminal?12:44
zottassh12:44
cfhowlettzotta, weird that no error msg came back.  I'd guess a mirror issue ...12:45
tirengarfiotyler_d, thanks, I will say it in another way: is there any way to test if is possible to install linux in that laptop before removing windows 8?12:46
zottathe process udev.postinst never terminates12:46
zottaand uses 0% cpu12:46
tyler_dtirengarfio, you can boot to a live cd12:47
cfhowlettzotta, do a kill -9 on that process and run upgrade again ...12:47
zottai did a kill (without the -9)12:47
zottaand it still does not work12:47
tyler_dtirengarfio, or alternately you could attempt to install it on a usb key or removable hard-disk... from my experience with my little sony vaio it was a pain in the backside to fight through. Mind you that was a few months back now12:48
zottawill appending -9 change anything?12:48
cfhowlettzotta, kill -9 will kill it NOW12:48
theadminzotta: -9 will send signal 9 (SIGKILL), which will force the termination12:48
gemma22Im updating my full working 12.04 LTS, P.IV 2.4Ghz, 2GBRAM and a NVIDIA to the 12.10 LTS but i had the advice that my graphic card may not be full supported. This system will be only POS terminal (no games, photoshop...). I do not need full graphics support, do i?12:48
theadminzotta: If still fails, try with -SEGV, although that's cheating12:48
zottadpkg: error processing udev (--configure):12:49
zotta subprocess installed post-installation script was killed by signal (Killed)12:49
theadmingemma22: Eh. The desktop might fail to load. Suggest to stay on 12.04 until 2D is properly supported by Unity (next LTS, 14.04, should have support)12:49
zottaif i run the upgrade again, it halts again12:50
zottado i even need tu upgrade udev?12:50
zottawhat the hack is udev for?12:50
zottacan i somehow tell the package manager to leave out the udev upgrade?12:51
cfhowlett!udev12:51
gemma22Theadmin: do u recomend then to abort my update? i still on the phase of downloading packages12:51
theadmingemma22: Yeah, I generally suggest to stay on LTS releases unless you really can't wait to see the new features12:51
spacecampif you want everything to work the best, is it best to run LTS rather then the latest release?12:51
theadmingemma22: You can upgrade directly to 14.04 when it's out12:51
theadminspacecamp: See my message to gemma2212:52
spacecampcuss my friend said lts is for servers12:52
cfhowlett!lts|spacecamp, not exactly.12:52
ubottuspacecamp, not exactly.: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)12:52
zottacfhowlett: could you be more explicit?12:52
cfhowlettspacecamp, LTS is long term support so is not so cutting/bleeding edge.  packages are designed for stability12:52
theadminspacecamp: Generally, LTS releases are very very stable and are suitable for server or enterprise use, as well as usual users who just want a stable system. Regular releases are less stable, but have new features.12:52
theadminspacecamp: Honestly, there's no features in 13.04 that aren't in 12.04 that are worth mentioning12:53
gemma22theadmin: perfect them, i will follow your suggestions, im very happy with my actual features, im not a computer geek. thank you.12:53
cfhowlettgemma22, is the way to go then.12:53
spacecampright, okay.. thanks theadmin12:53
zottaCan someone tell me how to make apt-get leave out the udev upgrade?12:54
gemma22wow then im ready to download and test some POS software, thank you! see you around!12:54
cfhowlettgemma22, I run LTS only so I update only every 2 years instead of every 6 months.  few headaches and my system works great.12:54
spacecampzotta, you could use synaptic12:54
spacecampand just uncheck what you don't want?12:54
zottaspacecamp: I have no gui12:54
spacecampupdate then jjust purge what you don't want?12:54
theadminzotta: You can hold the package: echo "udev hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections12:54
DJ_U|Laptopupgrade portion is running for the most part, smooth, though there was one message regarding x11, but as I'm in text mode, that's a given.  :p12:54
spacecampidk, i will let the pros help you : 312:55
CatKillerspacecamp: purging udev *might* not be the best idea ;)12:55
spacecamplol12:55
CatKilleralso because many packages probably have dependencies on it it would probably purge your entire instal l ;12:55
zottatheadmin: and how do i undo it, if i ever need to?12:55
spacecampright12:55
spacecampyeah prolly have a good point lol12:56
theadminzotta: echo "udev install" | sudo dpkg --set-selections12:56
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spacecampCatKiller, theadmin :do you guys run ubuntu?12:59
theadminspacecamp: I do.12:59
CatKillersure12:59
spacecamp12/04?12:59
CatKilleryep12:59
spacecampcool12:59
theadminspacecamp: Nah, I'm running 13.04, I'm  more of the "latest features" kind of person12:59
spacecampoh, okay. idk i was messing around the other day with 13.04 and when i updated the kernal it was a laggy POS13:00
spacecampso i think i will run 12.0413:00
spacecampdownloading it right now to mess around with in a vm13:01
spacecampwhen i ran ubunut 24/7 like 5 months or so ago, i ran 12.04 and it worked great.. so...13:01
spacecampubuntu*13:01
BluesKajrunning any OS in a vm makes it kaggy :)13:02
spacecampwell, this was not in one13:02
spacecampit was barebone13:03
BluesKajor laggy as the case may be13:03
spacecampidk, could of been alot of things tho13:03
theadminspacecamp: 13.04 currently has no 2D support, thus your GPU needs to have 3D acceleration. Being worked on13:03
theadminspacecamp: So yeah13:03
spacecampi think i will run stable debian,+ubuntu from now on...13:03
wreinerhi - i want to boot from a logical volume which resides on an encrypted physical volume. but upon booting i don't get to enter my password, instead I'm being dropped to initram shell complaining no root found. when i check my initrd there is no cryptsetup binary in it. does anyone have some hints on that?13:03
spacecampubuntu LTS that is...13:04
bl4ckdu5tHow can I set permissions recursively for all the files and folders in a folder13:04
roninwhat would you recommend OpenJDK or Sun Java13:04
wreineri can post all needed information to pastebin without problems13:05
theadminbl4ckdu5t: chmod -R blah13:05
BluesKajheh, I'm running kubuntu 13.10 beta2 and it's real fast , even on this old clunker13:05
ActionParsnipronin: is openjdk gives what you need then use it. There is a PPA for Oracle Java (Sun don't own java now)13:05
theadminronin: OpenJDK works nicely for the most part13:05
spacecampnice BluesKaj13:05
spacecampall hardware is diff i guesss,13:05
spacecampusing newist kernal?13:05
spacecampstable not beta kernal i mean?13:06
CatKillerwreiner: Did Ubuntu create and encrypt this LVM LV?13:06
CatKillerwreiner: Or is that a "home made" install?13:06
wreinerhome made13:06
wreinerusing FAI13:06
CatKillerwreiner: Because initramfs only contains what is needed to boot Ubuntu13:06
CatKillerand Ubuntu generates initramfs according to what it *think* it'll need13:06
CatKillerIf this is homemade13:06
BluesKajspacecamp:  3.11.0-8-generic #15-Ubuntu13:07
bl4ckdu5ttheadmin: I thought it should be done with "chown"13:07
CatKillerUbuntu has no idea you're booting an encrypted partition13:07
CatKillerand won't include your required stuff13:07
theadminbl4ckdu5t: chown changes ownerships. chmod changes permissions.13:07
spacecampBluesKaj, thats the kernal thats it comes with out of the box right?13:07
ws2k33hello i want that my ubuntu machine is able to send out email via an external smtp server how should this be done ?13:07
bl4ckdu5ttheadmin: ok thanks!13:07
CatKilleryou're going to have to generate a new initramfs with http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/update-initramfs.8.html13:07
BluesKajyup, thius is a clean install , spacecamp13:07
CatKilleror this http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/mkinitramfs.8.html13:08
spacecampnot latest kernal then BluesKaj correct me if i'm wrong tho13:08
CatKillerAnd some more info: http://askubuntu.com/questions/103844/how-to-customize-the-initrd-embedded-in-or-coming-with-the-kernel-image13:08
wreinerCatKiller: hmm ok, but where would i tell ubuntu to include this stuff? I genereated my crypttab, added /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/cryptroot, added the modules to initramfs and built a new one13:08
spacecampidk, my friend just always told me to make sure you are running the latest kernal13:08
wreinerCatKiller: http://pastebin.com/DYEmBf3p13:09
spacecampso i try to keep up with all that lol13:09
CatKillerwreiner: Maybe that wasn't the procedure, like maybe this didn't copy the right binaries13:09
wreinerCatKiller: this is what i've done so far13:09
BluesKajspacecamp:  I don't pay much attn to newest kernel on a dev OS , that's up to the development ppl , I'm a kubuntu-tester13:09
spacecampright13:09
wreinerCatKiller: most certainly there is something missing but all tutorials around google tell me only to do this13:09
CatKillerwreiner: Sounds like you'd need to add the binaries to the initramdisk as well13:10
spacecampi just want my systems to run the best i can make them, and i was told if you want that then you need to keep up with the latest stable kernal13:10
spacecampagain, correct me if i'm wrong lol13:10
CatKillerwreiner: Does your ramdisk have cryptpv?13:10
CatKillerbecause it will need that according to the cryptroot config13:10
ws2k33hello i want that my ubuntu machine is able to send out email via an external smtp server how should this be done ?13:10
ActionParsnipspacecamp: as long as the hardware is all running ok then the kernelis doing its job13:11
BluesKajspacecamp:  newest isn't necessarily best , but I'm sure you're aware of that :)13:11
spacecampActionParsnip, agreed.13:11
wreinerCatKiller: hmm not sure what you mean by that. as far as i understand, that's a name i give the container. could you tell me how to check?13:11
cfhowlettspacecamp, agt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade   should solve 99% of your upgrade issues plus, perhaps, enabling backports in the repos13:11
ActionParsnipspacecamp: so you dont need to keep grabbing new kernels13:11
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CatKillerwreiner: Not sure, I have never made custom initramdisks using Debian or Ubuntu13:12
wreinerCatKiller: also the cryptosetup binaries are missing in the initrd, but i don't know how to tell update-initramfs to include them13:12
CatKiller100% homemade ones yes13:12
CatKillerbut that's not the same13:12
spacecampright, so if eveything is working like it should.. then i shouldent worry about making sure i have the latest kernal?13:12
cfhowlettspacecamp, chillax.13:12
CatKillerwreiner: That's why I was suggesting to make a new initramfs entirely not with udpate13:12
CatKillerbut with create13:12
CatKillerit's an ext2 image usually13:13
CatKillerthat contains a "skeleton" fs with binaries and such13:13
ActionParsnipspacecamp: exactly13:13
spacecampsweet13:13
CatKillerusually you make it from a directory that contains the right structure13:13
CatKilleror you could "edit" your existing one by mounting the image and adding stuff to it13:13
wreinerCatKiller: sure, but it would break everything on the next kernel update13:13
CatKillerwreiner: Ye[p13:14
CatKillerwreiner: Or actually, "maybe"13:14
CatKillerwreiner: as I said, I have no experience with customizing ubuntu ramdisks13:14
CatKillerjust making full ones13:14
wreinerCatKiller: ok, thank you anyway13:14
roninisn't it a bit weird that my package doesn't include javadoc for example jdk-7u11-linux-x64.tar.gz13:15
ronini have oracle's java now13:15
MoleManCould someone help me work out why my system doesn't resume from hibernate? I have set the resume= tag in Grub,might it be related to the swap being encrypted? the ouput from blikd for the swap is "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1: (blahblah", using 13.04, with partitions automatically setup by Ubuntu during install13:15
CeninantWhat's the best form of Wine to install for a newbie?13:15
user258467Hi, I think I have lost Xorg or gdm or the other display manager I am in chroot, could you tell me how do I install Xorg?13:16
MoleManProbabl Pinot?13:16
cfhowlettCeninant, form?  use the one in the software center.13:16
CeninantPlay on Linux?13:17
ActionParsnipuser258467: sudo apt-get install xorg13:17
UrielVigilanteGood morning, yesterday i came here to ask help to install bcm4311 on ubuntu 12.04.usb persistent mode. and problem solved, today i came here  again because i cant install bcm4311 on another usb persistent mode ubuntu 13.10, here what i tryed until here :   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6158668/13:17
cfhowlettCeninant, you do know that you can install both for free?13:17
cfhowlett!saucy|UrielVigilante,13:17
ubottuUrielVigilante,: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.13:17
CeninantBoth together?13:17
ActionParsnipCeninant: play on linux is a GUI for Wine. Wine is still doing the work. Play on linux is not a 'form of wine'13:17
cfhowlettUrielVigilante, 13.10 is beta ...13:18
UrielVigilantecfhhowlett: please give me a tip13:18
PiciUrielVigilante: ask in #ubuntu+113:18
UrielVigilanteshould i regret to 13.04 to make it work ?13:18
UrielVigilantethanks any way13:18
user258467ActionParsnip, it seems I have already xorg but I can't log in in gui to my computer and as it is encrypted I can't login at all, how is named the new GDM, I think I have to reinstall it13:19
PervMonkGood day all. Ever since the last update, my one USB drive which normally got mounted on /media/FreeAgent GoFlex Drive is now mounted as /media/FreeAgent GoFlex Dri - without the "ve"13:19
PervMonk<PervMonk> this is a mission as my sickbeard has episodes indexed with the original name13:19
PervMonk<PervMonk> how can I change this back via command line?13:19
ActionParsnipPervMonk: unmount it then you can label the partition13:20
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roninhow should I install javadoc, I see it's already in /usr/lib/jvm/jdk.../bin directory. should I copy it to /usr/bin/java or make a link to /usr/bin or hmm13:21
roninwhy isn't it even created as default13:21
DJ_U|LaptopThe nvidia driver download appears complete, going to reboot, since there were some kernel updates and will see if it works.  :)13:21
JoBArTe_Skuldhey guys13:23
JoBArTe_Skuldits possible to have a mail notification if is logged succesfully on ssh?13:24
ActionParsnipJoBArTe_Skuld: you can have a watch on /var/log/auth.log and email successes etc13:26
DJ_U|LaptopSomething's still not right, got an internal error, it's in usr/bin/Xorg13:27
JoBArTe_Skuld[ActionParsnip]: thanks13:28
i_eat_my_niknamehello13:34
Letalisso on a 64 bit system how possible is it for opengl to run fine on 32 bit applications but not on 64 bit ones, because thats what it looks like to me right now :)13:35
Letalisglxgears and kdes desktop compositiong are pretty much a slideshow and cease to work respecitvely. my x3 game on steam? runs flawless.13:36
i_eat_my_niknamehello friends i cant do any one exe with bundle options (py2exe) , always returned  more modules are missing error :(13:36
roninwhat could be wrong >javadoc Error occurred during initialization of VM Could not reserve enough space for code cache13:37
roninI created to symlink to javadoc to /usr/bin/13:38
i_eat_my_nikname@FloodBot how are you today ?13:38
i_eat_my_niknamedmesg | grep brainless13:41
spacecampWhen will skype ever be good on Gnu/Linux?13:42
spacecampProlly never, Since bill gates bought it lol13:43
the_thought_forgspacecamp: Ask Microsoft13:43
spacecampone super sucky thing, cuss most people i talk to use skype lol13:43
spacecampback in the day i used pidgin and it worked great really, But now everyone has went to skype13:43
apnspacecamp, never.  Skype is owned and developped by Microsoft.  They do not support competing systems.13:43
cfhowlettspacecamp, you could always use blackberrymessenger ...13:44
the_thought_forgI'm having some issues getting some nVidia Legacy drivers installed on my system running Lubuntu. Can anybody give me a hand?13:44
spacecampI should be like some or my other friends and Only use irc to talk to people rofl13:44
spacecampbut those friends of mine have autism13:44
spacecamprofl13:45
spacecampSkype has gotten a lil better tho for nix. Compared to the way it was when it 1st came out i guess :\13:46
UrielVigilanteOk i decided already , i will back to ubuntu 13.04, some one can tell me the best waranteed way to do it ?13:46
spacecamplol warranty on Gnu/Linux?13:46
loaUrbanmyt1, time travel machine i guess.13:46
spacecampwut13:46
Pici!offtopic | spacecamp13:47
ubottuspacecamp: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:47
roninpaxctl is the solution.13:47
ronindevil's invetion13:47
spacecamplol13:47
UrielVigilantespacecamp: rephrasing , wich  i decided already , i will back to ubuntu 13.04, some one can tell me the best  way to do it ?13:49
PiciUrielVigilante: It would require a reinstall.13:49
the_thought_forgUrielVigilante: A clean install would work best13:49
spacecampUrielVigilante, Grab a thumb drive and install it?13:49
UrielVigilanteyes , i will do a clean install with usb persistent windows software ...13:50
spacecampapt-get install unetbootin13:50
the_thought_forgUrielVigilante: The best way to keep it clean for upgrading in the future would be to make a separate partition on your hard drive for your /home/, you can always configure a newer installation to use that partition and mount it at /home rather than overwriting it13:50
UrielVigilanteuts possible to make it in persistent mode with unebootin ?13:50
UrielVigilanteThe_thought_forg, iam using it on a persistent mode, the usb way that always remember all cahges in system beetween terminatesś and startś13:52
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the_thought_forgUrielVigilante: Alrighty. That's always fun. I have a Salix USB stick somewhere around here that I used to use in places where I didn't have access to a computer with Linux on it13:53
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UrielVigilanteUnebootin max persitent space possible is 512  Mb ?13:55
the_thought_forgRollin' again... Can anyone help me with installing Nvidia legacy drivers on Lubuntu, or point me to a channel where they might be able to?13:56
UrielVigilantewith windows usb .." something software its 4 GB ....13:56
the_thought_forgUrielVigilante: It shouldn't be. Check that you aren't using an old version13:56
UrielVigilanteok thank you13:56
spacecampHow come unity has such bad support for more then one display?13:59
ActionParsnipspacecamp: depends on config really13:59
the_thought_forgspacecamp: Because it's proprietary and most desktop users only have one monitor, so they can get away with it for now14:00
spacecampLike, can you get rid of the unity bar on the top with some configing?14:00
spacecamp>unity propietary14:00
spacecamplol14:00
ActionParsnipthe_thought_forg: Unity isnt proprietary at all14:01
ActionParsnipthe_thought_forg: where did you hear that?14:01
spacecampYeah, he was just joking14:01
the_thought_forgspacecamp: No, I was pretty serious... ActionParsnip: Isn't the SDK about 1500 USD or something?14:02
ActionParsnipthe_thought_forg: no idea, not something I use. I just use OpenBox as WM14:03
spacecampi like dwm14:04
the_thought_forgActionParsnip: I'm not entirely sure, myself. Just from what I've passively heard, it seems like one of those "Mostly for Windows and Mac" type things14:04
axthebThere are more "unity" named software products imho14:04
axthebThe ubuntu unity desktop (foss) and unity3d game engine14:04
ActionParsnipaxtheb: unity isnt a DE14:05
ActionParsnipaxtheb: its a shell for gnome14:05
the_thought_forgOh14:05
the_thought_forgThat Unity14:05
ActionParsnipaxtheb: a plugin for Compiz14:05
the_thought_forgWhoops... I usually use LXDE, XFCE and Fluxbox. Totally forgot about that one14:06
axthebActionParsnip: I know.14:06
axthebActionParsnip: there was no "DE" in my post14:06
designbybeckIs there a way to recover deleted or removed files from the harddrive or CF card? Here is what this guys prob is: "manually deleted from the camera, and had them on my computer, but I let somebody borrow it to burn a disk and now they are gone"14:07
the_thought_forgdesignbybeck: I don't know which DE you use so this may not apply, but check your trash first14:08
ActionParsnipdesignbybeck: try foremost or scalpel on the unmounted file system14:08
axthebdesignbybeck: Its not that hard to undelete files from FAT filesystem iirc, so you probably can get them from the card.14:08
axthebdesignbybeck: fatback, photorec14:10
MoleMandesignbybeck: I'd personally recommend TestDisk or PhotoRec, which is basically just the part you want from TestDisk http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/14:10
designbybeckThank you all. I'll get this info to him. I might even try it on an old harddrive I have !14:12
ihreare there mirrors available for kernel.org ?14:13
ihreim downloading @ 32KB/s ...14:13
ImQ009Hey14:14
ImQ009I'm running Ubuntu Live (with prersistence file set up) off a pendrive. Now, is there away to set it up so it installs all the applications and libraries on my external HDD? It's NOT the same as my pendrive, just to make it clear14:15
ImQ009I tried setting the external HDD's mountpoint to /usr/bin14:16
ImQ009But - as I expected - it didn't work14:16
whoeverhi all , anyone here using razerconfig ?, i doon't see an option to keeep the logo led solid14:17
whoeveris there an optien and i just missed it14:20
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OerHekswhoever, depends on your type if led actions are supported > http://bues.ch/cms/hacking/razercfg.html14:22
sajaltly14:24
ImQ009Anyone? :/14:24
apnImQ009: sure.  If you want all applications, then leave /boot on your HD, and mount / in your external HDD14:25
apnImQ009: if you are talking abut non-essential applications on external HDD, then mount / on your internal, and /usr to your external.14:26
whoeverOerHeks:  it is the DeathAdder and according to supported features it suppors L(LEDs switching)14:30
ImQ009apn, Thanks14:31
burnerso if I have unity, kde, xfce, lxde, and razor installed and my vertical space is only 768px on my netbook, how do I select the "ubuntu" as my wm in lightdm when it's off the screen?14:32
ImQ009I made a new admin account14:32
ImQ009...in live mode14:32
ImQ009I switched to it14:32
ImQ009I ended up in fullscreen'd terminal, without anything, not being able to do anything at all14:32
ImQ009rebooted, now it won't even boot14:32
ImQ009...... way to go14:32
the_thought_forgburner: You need to right click on the panel and reconfigure it so that it displays on the screen properly14:33
ImQ009Anyone know what's going on?14:33
burnerthe_thought_forg: on the panel at the top when i'm at the lightdm login screen?14:33
the_thought_forgImQ009: What did you try to do?14:33
the_thought_forgburner: I thought you meant on the desktop... I have no idea about that, then14:33
helmut_hi14:33
ImQ009the_thought_forg, Make a new account14:34
the_thought_forgMaybe there's something you can change in the lightdm config files?14:34
the_thought_forgImQ009: Something went horribly wrong. Whatever you did, it sounds like X was unable to start14:34
burnerthe_thought_forg: nah... i'm fine once logged in, but i can't try unity on my netbook since i can't select it at the login screen.  thanks anyway14:34
ImQ009the_thought_forg, All I did is to go system settings, user accounts, click the plus thingy, created new account14:35
the_thought_forgYou should try to login and type the command 'startx'14:35
ImQ009Then I clicked the power button and then the name of the new account14:35
ImQ009the_thought_forg, It doesn't let me type anything at all14:35
the_thought_forgImQ009: Press Ctrl+Alt+F7 or Ctrl+Alt+F8 to see if it will take you back to the desktop14:36
ImQ009the_thought_forg, It doesn't boot anymore :P14:36
ImQ009it goes through the flash screen14:37
zykotick9the_thought_forg: fyi, really if you are in console, it's just ALT+F7 (Ctrl is only required when you are in Xorg)14:37
ImQ009ok it booted THIS time14:37
ImQ009Hmm14:37
the_thought_forgzykotick9: Didn't know that, thanks14:37
the_thought_forgImQ009: If you have a recovery option in your GRUB menu, you should select it14:38
lotuspsychjeive installed 13.04 64bit on a targa laptop, everything works flawless, just somtimes desktop freezes after opening dash, searching applications...grafix card= geforce go and nouveau driver14:38
ImQ009Well, nvm, nvm everything I said14:38
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ImQ009I booted and I realized it didn't keep any of my settings14:38
ImQ009so this whole persistence file thing doesn't work at all :/14:39
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loki_hello, what i can check if ubuntu don't save changes of my inderace? for example such changes: applications which i add on unity panel? i add them from desktop, or time after which screensaver activated, or wallpaper settings?14:40
whoeveris there a more efficent way to clean the razer death adder othere then rubbing alchol, since the matt plastic seems to pick up fingure prints just by looking at it14:46
ActionParsnipwhoever: how is that an ubuntu question?14:46
whoeverActionParsnip: not really but since I am here just decided to ask14:47
ActionParsnipwhoever: try in ##hardware14:47
lotuspsychjethink ive found my issue here for that box: http://askubuntu.com/questions/287354/clicking-the-dash-home-causes-computer-to-freeze-up14:47
pmdHi. I've got LUKS-encrypted installation of ubuntu and I've installed elementary on second partition. Now I'm looking for a way to copy entire elementary installation to encrypted partition. Will dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/mapper/sda5_crypt command work for me?14:48
MoleManis there a way to stop ubuntu being drunk and make it realise websites aren'r programs?14:49
MoleManie FaceBook, Amazon showing up in the launcher / task bar14:49
loki_whoever, just dissasble it, then wash it, and brush it with toothpaste.14:49
lotuspsychjeMoleman: those are normal online accounts you can add14:50
loki_hello, what i can check if ubuntu don't save changes of my inderace? for example such changes: applications which i add on unity panel? i add them from desktop, or time after which screensaver activated, or wallpaper settings?14:50
MoleManlotuspsychje: do you know where the setting to disable them is?14:51
lotuspsychjeMoleMan: check your system settings and disable online accounts14:51
MoleManlotuspsychje: found them in the settings, can't see an option to disable them though?14:53
whoeverloki_: thx14:53
loki_whoever, but don't use tooth brush))14:53
loki_it will be too agrssive14:54
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loki_agressive14:54
lotuspsychjeMoleMan: check privacy settings aswell for amazon searches disable14:54
loki_cotton fabric, little tooth paste, many water at will be ok.14:55
tempspaceAnybody else seeing this today? initramfs-tools : Depends: initramfs-tools-bin (< 0.99ubuntu13.1.1~) but 0.99ubuntu13.2 is to be installed14:55
Piciwhoever, loki_: Can you please move this conversation to ##hardware, as it has nothing whatsoever to do with Ubuntu?14:55
lotuspsychjeloki_: your question is making no sense...does your desktop not remember changes?14:55
loki_lotuspsychje, only interface changes.14:56
loki_for example i click on desktop and select wallpaper i want14:56
loki_all is ok, it is on my desktop14:56
loki_after relogin, i see default one again14:56
MoleManlotuspsychje: still showing up in the taskbar when I open them in firefox14:57
timhansenmorning, all14:57
tyler_dmorning timbermaniac_14:58
OldTexasMornin'14:58
tyler_dtimhansen, I meant14:58
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havvHello14:59
timhansenI'm running ubuntu 13.04 server, and i'm having an issue with my ruby on rails app not being able to connect to mysql. i can access mysql via mysql -u root -p ; and i've discovered the mysql socket exists at /run/mysqld/mysql.sock via sudo find / -type s ; but alas.. when i try to create my rails database, i get the error, "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/run/mysqld/mysql.sock'"15:00
timhansenis there something i'm missing? anyone have anything else to try?15:01
havvI'm running lubuntu on Virtual Box and I'm trying to give it a static ip address. I added "iface eth0 inet static" and added the addresses for address, netmask and gateway. When I restart the VM there is no network connectivity. What am I missing?15:02
MoleMantimhansen: have you checked the config to ensure it is allowed? and you /might/ get better help in #Ubuntu-Server15:03
MoleManonly might though :)15:03
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timhansenMoleMan: which config, to ensure what is allowed?15:05
MichaelPon 12.04 lts is it possible to upgrade to gtk 3.6.4 ?15:05
MoleManeeerm, 1 second,15:06
kanupatarhi , I am having a linux machine installed with ubuntu 12.04, in that machine there is no internet connection.I need to install emacs full package in that machine.So i need to download the emacs deb package from net and then I need to take it there into the ubuntu machine and then only I can install the same.Can anyone tell me the emacs package location without any extra dependency?15:06
kanupatar]/j emacs15:06
MoleManI presume you have whatever ruby extensions or whatever are needed for MySQL integration? (I know nothing about Ruby / Rails)15:06
timhansenMoleMan: yes15:07
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kanupatarAny emacs users here?15:11
MoleMantimhansen: check the socket settings in /etc/mysql/my.cnf15:11
mihaela_hi, I'm geting dhcp (ipv4) timeout with my centrino wireless card (driver iwlwifi)15:11
mihaela_this problem seems to be known for quite a while15:12
mihaela_any fixes already?15:12
MoleManand logs in /var/log/mysql.log /var/log/mysql.err and /var/log/mysql/error.log15:13
timhansenMoleMan: that specifies the socket is at /var/run/mysqld/mysql….d…dot sock. son of a bitch. i tried that before, except with mysql.sock instead of mysqld.sock. son of a bitch15:13
MoleManat least those are the logs I have on my system, you may find a more detailed reason as to why the login failed in them15:13
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SkiOne_anyone can tell me I would get a permission denied when trying to create a folder as root? I can create folders above and below just not at this one level15:17
MoleManSkiOne_: what are the perms on the folder? can you chmod them and does that help at all15:18
MoleManas for why you can't to start with, no idea.15:18
SkiOne__sorry connectionropped15:18
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MoleMan[16:18:42] 26-09-2013 <MoleMan> SkiOne_: what are the perms on the folder? can you chmod them and does that help at all15:19
MoleMan[16:18:50] 26-09-2013 <MoleMan> as for why you can't to start with, no idea.15:19
SkiOnethe file permissions are 755 and I can't chmod them either15:20
zykotick9SkiOne: is this on a FAT or NTFS formatted partition?15:21
SkiOneext315:21
SkiOnehttp://pastebin.com/NiV7pvS5 is my file permissions15:21
tempspaceIs there something other than apt-get update I can do to get apt to re-read package dependencies?15:28
tempspaceI am stuck in a spot where apt is checking for dependencies of the previous package, rather than the package I am trying to install15:28
Sander^workWhen I try to log into ubuntu 13.04 via grafical interface.. I get trown out again.. but guest login works.15:29
Sander^worksyslog says my homedir is already mounted.15:30
Sander^workwhen I log into the console.15:30
zykotick9Sander^work: log into console and do a "ls -la" in your home dir.  do you see anything owned by root?15:31
Sander^workzykotick9, yes. Should I chown it to myself?15:31
Sander^workI guess..15:31
zykotick9Sander^work: NEVER use sudo with GUI applications!  see "/msg ubottu gksudo" for explanation.15:32
Sander^workzykotick9, ok.15:33
RakhollHello, is anyone able to play League of Legends using PlayOnLinux?15:34
RakhollMine stopped working about two patches ago, and if someone actually has it working, I'll try and reinstall, but as things are...15:36
zykotick9Rakholl: you might want to try asking in #winehq (but i don't know how they feel about PoL)15:36
boneslashRakholl - stop playing LOL I heard about WOW :)15:36
ActionParsnipRakholl: did you check the Wine AppDb?15:37
RakhollActionParsnip: Not yet15:39
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zquadhey i am looking for and old ubuntu background that looked like a grid15:41
zquadI think it was the default wallpaper15:41
RakhollActionParsnip: Oh, a new wine version? I'll try it out, see what happens15:42
u3you know any good file crypt programs good to use15:44
nibblergpg, dm-crypt15:44
tfdlGood morning everyone!15:45
tfdlWe have used your Ubuntu package http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/gtkterm.1.html15:45
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tfdlsorry I should say the Ubuntu package not your :)15:46
tfdland successfully sent a hexadecimal commands of strings "FE" and "00" or "FE" and "01" to a serial port to switch a status light device.15:46
Eenmalam15:46
Eenmas15:46
tfdlHowever, we will need to do this programmatically, we don't want to manually enter hexadecimal values, we would need to automate this process.15:46
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tfdlCould you please tell us how to accomplish this? Do we have a command line version of GtkTerm, instead of the gui?15:47
tfdlWe are very thankful to you and your work, we appreciate any help.15:47
baswazzwhat does the -R in: sudo -R chown user:grp * mean?15:47
MoleManbaswazz: recursive15:47
tfdl-R is recursively15:48
MoleManoh, but it should be after chown, not before?15:48
baswazzok thanks guys15:48
MoleManbaswazz: was your command the right way around?15:48
rickferdIs there an build your kernel for dumies15:48
baswazzthis is the howto: http://www.latentexistence.me.uk/zfs-and-ubuntu-home-server-howto/15:48
zykotick9!kernel | rickferd15:49
ubotturickferd: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)15:49
rickferdI can not get any hting newer that 10.04 to run on my system15:50
wheatthinrickferd, what do you mean?15:50
jonascjHi all. Anyone using Guayadeque player? I cannot figure out why I cannot see any songs in my library (My Music) after I've added a path in Guayadeque15:51
MoleManbaswazz: yeah, I think he has made a typo and means 'sudo chown -R steve:steve *'15:51
baswazzMoleMan: ok thanks i already missed it in the manpage :D15:51
zykotick9rickferd: using 10.04 isn't really an option at this point... what is failing with newer versons exactly?15:52
rickferdI can install 10.04  and it runs great If i try and install any of the newer version it will just have a black screen and even bring up a terminal it just sits there nothing. I tried upgrading and the same thing15:52
zykotick9rickferd: if you have nvidia/ati have you tried nomodeset?  "/msg ubottu nomodeset" for details.15:53
wheatthinsounds like your graphics card drivers need to be installed15:53
wheatthin^15:53
rickferdI have an intel series 4 graphics card15:53
wheatthinresolution too high15:54
wheatthinor out of sync15:54
zykotick9rickferd: ok, still same question, have you tried nomodeset?15:54
rickferdno i have not15:54
RakhollActionParsnip: All league gives is bug splats with all the wine versions presented in the AppDb15:55
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kruugI am currenlty unable to ping any resources.  I did not configure any additional firewalls.  This is Ubuntu Server 12.04.15:55
kruugAny starting places?15:55
wheatthinkruug, are you using ip and dns both?15:56
ActionParsnipRakholl: then if the appdb says it wont work, safe bet is that it wont work15:56
kruugwheatthin: so far, I've only tried dns15:56
wheatthintry ip and narrow it down15:56
zquadhey guys, there was a ubuntu wallpaper that looked like a grid. I think it was the default wallpaper of 12, 11 or 13.  Any suggestions?15:56
kruugwheatthin: aha.  thanks, IP pinging is working15:57
wheatthinkruug, perhaps it's just your resolv.conf15:57
ActionParsnipzquad: tried image search online?15:58
ActionParsnipkruug: try:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null15:58
zquadyea... no luck, I am thinking maybe its not default smh, really wanted it15:58
ActionParsnipkruug: then try web access15:58
kruugActionParsnip: I tried pinging google and it gave back unknown host15:59
kruugActionParsnip, wheatthin looks like my coworker misconfigured network interfaces16:03
wheatthinahh lol16:04
wheatthinblame it on the coworker :P16:04
ActionParsnipkruug: d'oh16:05
gambinohi there!16:12
xobbmorning. anyone has an system76 14" laptop? what's the average time on the battery?16:20
wheatthingoogle search it16:21
philinuxxobb: I'm guessing you're not getting what you think it shoudl do?16:21
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ActionParsnipxobb: or email system76 direct16:22
daniel__hello16:24
daniel__i need help with something guys please16:24
daniel__new user16:24
daniel__need help modifying grub config16:24
pmdHi. I've got LUKS-encrypted installation of ubuntu and I've installed elementary on second partition. Now I'm looking for a way to copy entire elementary installation to encrypted partition. Will dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/mapper/sda5_crypt command work for me?16:24
zykotick9daniel__: can you give more details?16:25
daniel__so16:25
daniel__im trying to gksudo gedit it16:25
jhutchinspmd: No, you need to do a file-level copy, not a block copy.16:26
daniel__but apparently asks for password and text editor does not start16:26
xobbI'm about to buy it. but I've read the whole their website didn't getting the information about that16:26
xobbyeah, emailing them is the next thing I'm gonna do after asking here)16:26
jhutchinspmd: I'd probably use rsync.16:26
kalakjhello everyone, i am having a strange problem in my laptop, it never happens in Windows, i am using UBuntu 12.04 LTS and it is updated and it ejects DVD tray at random interval , firstly i thought that it i accidentally hit  eject button, but now it is confirmed that it  ejects it at random intervals, i tried a lot on the net, but no solution find, any body please help.16:26
u3_hello16:26
philinuxdaniel__: just put your log in password in.16:26
daniel__i did16:26
daniel__but nothing happened16:26
philinuxdaniel__: and be careful what you change. What u trying to do16:26
pmdjhutchins: thanks, I'll try this way16:27
zykotick9daniel__: what is the full command you are trying?  "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub"?16:27
u3_i was just going to tell you all that my computer is sooooo fast now i cant believe it16:27
philinuxdaniel__: the password wont show just enter it and press enter16:27
kalakjany other channel that you would like to  recommend if help is not available here16:27
skulltipif using my desktop as a gaming (mostly steam) and light dev box including graphics, should i install 32 or 64bit OS?16:28
zykotick9skulltip: if you're into gaming, i'd suggest 32bit.  YMMV.16:28
daniel__you don't understand me guys16:28
daniel__alright16:28
daniel__terminal16:28
daniel__gksudo gedit /boot/grub16:29
daniel__asks for pass16:29
daniel__enter it16:29
daniel__accepts pass16:29
FloodBot1daniel__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:29
zykotick9daniel__: /boot/grub is WRONG16:29
Rorydaniel__: The file you want is /etc/default/grub16:29
daniel__/etc/boot/grub16:29
daniel__oh damn let me try16:29
philinuxdaniel__: it would really help if you told us what the heck you're trying to do16:30
Roryphilinux: He's quit16:30
daniel__Yeah i tried the patch /etc/default/grub16:30
Rory!grub | daniel__ please read this information before doing anything16:30
ubottudaniel__ please read this information before doing anything: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub216:30
daniel__It just won't open the text editor16:31
zykotick9daniel__: does "gksudo gedit" work?16:31
daniel__yes16:31
daniel__Asks me for my password, i just enter it, and nothing happens16:31
zykotick9daniel__: so "no" then...16:31
zykotick9daniel__: does gedit work?16:32
philinuxdaniel__: copy and paste this into the terminal gksu gedit /etc/default/grub16:32
PeanutHi folks. I have a machine that runs 'Raring', and just did apt-get dist-upgrade (last time was 30 days ago). Now after booting the machine doesn't even load grub (I have disabled the grub hiding in the past), let alone the kernel. I've booted in rescue mode (from the network) and re-installed grub, which didn't help but proves that the SSD that the OS is on is still there and accessible. Any hints on how to get my machine back to life please?16:32
daniel__It asks for password16:33
daniel__I give the pass but still nothing16:33
zykotick9daniel__: does gedit work? by itself?16:33
daniel__Erm I guess i need to sudo apt get it?16:33
daniel__I thought it was included with the system packages16:33
daniel__The program gedit is currently not installed16:33
minasi was sure :P16:33
philinuxdaniel__: which version ubuntu you on and again , what are u trying to do16:34
minastry nano instead16:34
daniel__Well im on xubuntu 12.416:34
daniel__Trying to add nomodeset to the grub config16:34
daniel__Yeah im going to try nano now16:34
philinuxdaniel__: well thats leafpad not gedit but you can install it16:34
zykotick9daniel__: xubuntu will have a different GUI text editor... but i don't know what it's called.16:34
daniel__i think it's nano16:34
zykotick9daniel__: nano is a terminal program, not GUI16:35
zykotick9daniel__: try "gksudo leafpad /etc/default/grub"16:35
ActionParsnipdaniel__: sudo nand /etc/default/grub16:35
ActionParsnipdaniel__: sudo nano /etc/default/grub16:35
ActionParsnipetc16:35
daniel__yes im trying to figure out how to save it in nano right now16:36
daniel__i made the modifications16:36
ActionParsnipdaniel__: CTRL+O, CTRL+X16:36
minascontrol -X16:36
MoleManCtrl + X16:36
MoleManY16:36
ActionParsnipdaniel__: then run: sudo update-grub16:36
daniel__ok i think im done16:36
zykotick9daniel__: don't forget "sudo update-grub" after making changes.16:36
daniel__Alright updated it16:36
ActionParsnipdaniel__: you can check with:  grep nomodeset /boot/grub/grub.cfg16:36
daniel__Thanks guys16:36
daniel__Opened it with nano again and configuration has been saved16:37
daniel__Is it okay to run with nomodeset on the long run?16:37
ActionParsnipdaniel__: sure16:37
daniel__Because I think it loaded some bad drivers from my graphics card16:37
daniel__everything goes black and flickering16:37
philinuxdaniel__: which graphics card?16:38
daniel__radeon hd 745016:39
aerootHey  together. I want to switch back from the old Linux Mint 12 to Ubuntu. In the installer Ubuntu says, he can replace the installation and applications and files of linux mint will be deleted. what does that mean? will the old file system be available after that and files that do not belong to mint won't be deleted?16:39
ActionParsnipaeroot: you should format the mint partition and install a clean Ubuntu install16:40
jhutchinsaeroot: Probably not.  You'll probably loose anything you don't back up.16:40
aerootActionParsnip, jhutchins: I actually planned to do a backup anyhow, but when the files would stay I would do a backup as 'backup' and not as transfer-method to the new system...16:42
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jhutchinsaeroot: There are sometimes problems with the hidden configuration files in a user's profile, especially if you revert to an earlier version of a program that uses those files.16:43
schnitzlhi. i have problems with fancontrol. sudo pwmconfig says i have no sensors installed.../usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no fan-capable sensor modules installed16:44
jhutchinsaeroot: What ActionParsnip said is true, the disk should ideally be re-formatted, so all files will be lost.16:44
ActionParsnip!sensors | schnitzl16:44
ubottuschnitzl: To access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions.16:44
OerHeksschnitzl, do you have lm-sensors installed?16:44
schnitzlsure. i did the check16:44
schnitzlconfirmed all with yes16:45
philinuxdaniel__: maybe a search in ubuntuforums.org may help. I'm not a radeon user so can't help16:45
schnitzli think lm-sensors isnt wiriting the modules.16:45
aerootjhutchins: okay, that was my first approach. i thought it could be more compfortable the other way, but i will do a clean install. thanks16:45
babinlonstonUsing Ubuntu 13.04 and installed KVM for virtual Machine , i have installed RHEL, centos and Winxp as my Guest OS in KVM , Except Win xp In all Operating system Drivers are get installed but in XP its not getting installed , How to get install the guest operating systems Drivers , Help me to get fixed .16:47
zykotick9babinlonston: are you using kvm directly, or through virt-manager?16:47
babinlonstonzykotick9: Throught Virt-manager16:48
aerootbtw, can i configure "Files" that it doesn't do a search/filter when beginning to type but just "jump" to a file with that beginning letter?16:48
zykotick9babinlonston: try asking in #virt on irc.oftc.net16:48
babinlonstonthere is not chatroom as #virt16:49
zykotick9babinlonston: notice the irc.oftc.net - it's NOT on freenode16:50
babinlonstonok16:51
xtrizwhat does headless ubuntu server means ?16:52
zykotick9xtriz: no attached monitor16:52
xtrizzykotick9, :)16:52
ActionParsnipxtriz: no screen on it, most servers are headless16:52
* LinuxGold is running 2 headless servers16:52
PeanutHi folks. I have a machine that runs 'Raring', and just did apt-get dist-upgrade (last time was 30 days ago). Now after booting the machine doesn't even load grub (I have disabled the grub hiding in the past), let alone the kernel. I've booted in rescue mode (from the network) and re-installed grub, which didn't help but proves that the SSD that the OS is on is still there and accessible, I can even mount it. Any hints on how to get my machine back to life plea16:53
ActionParsnipPeanut: hold SHIFT at boot, do you see grub?16:53
bindiso, 10.04 no longer supported? what's the best way to upgrade to 12.04, use the upgrade method presented by ubuntu or just reinstall..?16:54
schnitzlis there another tools to scan for sensors like lm-sensors ? i think it just does not redognize my hardware. but i am sure my fans can be regulated.16:54
zykotick9LinuxGold: <OT> i don't know if it's coincidence or if irssi actually takes colour names of Nicks into account, but the last three times i've seen you most something - your Nick has been yellow (gold)16:54
xtrizActionParsnip, nice to know that i was knowing this before16:54
ActionParsnipbindi: only not supported on the desktop. It still has a year and a bit on server16:54
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zykotick9s/most something/post something/16:54
ActionParsnipbindi: you can upgrade to Precise in one jump as it is LTS to LTS16:54
LinuxGoldzykotick9: uh?  I'm using LimeChat without escape codes16:55
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zykotick9LinuxGold: the colours are determined by client, so it's with MY irssi ;)16:55
LinuxGold=)16:55
skinuxHow does this work: sudo apt-get install nodejs=0.10.18-1chl1~precise1  ?16:55
babinlonstonWhat is the ubuntu server IRC ? #server16:56
zykotick9babinlonston: #ubuntu-server16:56
babinlonstonzykotick9: thanks16:56
PeanutActionParsnip: No, I'm on IPMI. But the grub menu isn't hidden, I turn that off on all my machines (removed GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT)16:57
skinuxNevermind. The installation instructions are invalid.16:59
rimalcan i ask questions about backtrack here16:59
wheatthinno17:00
ActionParsniprimal: #backtrack-linux17:00
ActionParsniprimal: or #kali-linux17:00
zykotick9!backtrack | rimal17:02
ubotturimal: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)17:02
rimalokay17:03
rimalthanks17:03
PeanutUgh.. it seems like the newer kernel detects ttyS0 and ttyS1 in a different order, hence my GRUB would never display!17:05
dubhdaracan someone help me get my gnome configured on ubuntu17:12
ActionParsnipdubhdara: with details, maybe17:12
dubhdaraI did a minimal install then install the gnome set17:12
dubhdarabut it stilll messes up when i start gdm17:13
ActionParsnipdubhdara: how do you mean "messes up"17:13
dubhdaracolumns and bars and is fuzzy17:13
dubhdaraits a older pc it has the old S3 savage graphic card17:13
loawhere i can find in dconf-editor where ubuntu save what icons i have on my unity panel?17:15
dubhdaraubuntu is so strange17:15
NLD0uw3NLhello17:16
trismloa: com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites17:16
jhutchinsdubhdara: You might want to check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see what the system thinks it's doing.17:16
loatrism, you are very helpful thx. maybe you now what can be wrong in my situation i set for example new wallpaper, but after relogin i see that there default again, or for example i set different timeout for screensaver, and he again default17:18
loalooks like settings not saved17:19
loaand system settings is working very strange.17:19
loathere are different settings for wallpaper, every time i open it17:20
loalooks like system settings mess my configuration17:20
loai setuped now all good, checked all things in dconf and will try to restart17:20
xobb_>> anyone has an system76 14" laptop? what's the average time on the battery? 4hrs, that's what the support said. They are expecting dramatic increase when 13.10 is released. Anyone has an idea why should that be increased so dramatically?17:21
igor__hi vsem17:22
igor__est russkie?17:22
ActionParsnip!ru17:22
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.17:22
loa!po17:23
ActionParsnipdubhdara: you may need an xorg.conf file to get a better display17:23
loas[ecial command for russians?17:23
igor__Эй выблядки англопиздючные, пишите на русском17:23
wxli have what i think is a very simple question relating to sudo -u. i'd like to have HOME set to the target user, so i'm using the -H switch, yet sudo -H -u user echo $HOME yields the HOME of the invoking user. the only thing set in /etc/sudoers is env_reset and secure_path and as i read the man page that shouldn't conflict. what am i doing wrong and/or missing?17:23
dubhdarawhere is my xorg.conf suppose to be on a ubuntu system17:24
loathat russian man said very bad words...17:24
ActionParsnipdubhdara: /etc/X11 same as every other Linux box17:24
loahe used top10 bad words in russian.17:24
ActionParsnipdubhdara: one doesnt exist by default but if you make one it will be obeyed17:24
dubhdarawell it shows a xorg.conf.d17:24
zykotick9dubhdara: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (but it's not there by default)17:24
dubhdarabut that says its a dang directory17:24
wxldubhdara: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config might be useful17:24
ActionParsnipdubhdara: /etc/X11/xorg.conf   will be the file17:25
tech11./sh configure No such file or directory17:25
ActionParsniptech11: is there a Configuration file in the pwd?17:25
ikoniatech11: what are you trying to do exactly17:25
dubhdaraokay i also need one last thing17:27
dubhdarahow do i download this17:27
tech11i am setting up gammamoo server17:27
dubhdaraxserver-xorg-driver-savage_2.0.2.3-0ubuntu1_i386 17:27
ActionParsnipdubhdara: isnt it in a default install17:28
dubhdaraapt-get says it can't get it17:28
ActionParsnipdubhdara: dpkg -l | grep savage17:28
dubhdaranot on mine17:28
ActionParsnip!info xserver-xorg-video-all17:29
ubottuxserver-xorg-video-all (source: xorg): X.Org X server -- output driver metapackage. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.7+1ubuntu4 (raring), package size 5 kB, installed size 64 kB17:29
ActionParsnipdubhdara: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all17:29
EricKitDoes anyone understand file systems very well?  What are the benefits of EXT4 and why when Ubuntu writes to an NTFS system can Windows not see the file?  I understand MS doesn't give much specifications to NTFS and the changes to it.17:29
ActionParsnipEricKit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext417:30
ActionParsnipEricKit: couldnt find that?17:31
jhutchinsEricKit: If you have ntfs-3g and can write to the NTFS filesystem, windows can see the file.  Perhaps you have not set the permiissions correctly?17:32
tech11how do u runing sh configure17:32
BookwormserHello quick question. I am currently on release 10.04.2 and I need to get to 10.04.3. Will an apt-get update take me to 10.04.4 or only 10.04.3?17:33
ikoniatech11: you run it in a directory where there is a confiugre script17:33
ikoniatech11: eg: sh ./configure17:33
dtcrshris there a way to save the apps iv installed and install the same apps into another ubuntu?17:33
ActionParsnipBookwormser: you will upgrade to the latest packages in the repos so will go to 10.04..4 direct17:33
dtcrshrIv added no foreign repos, its a lts install17:33
BookwormserAh ok thank you ActionParsnip. Is there a way to simply update to 10.04.3? Would I need to do it package by package?17:34
zykotick9dtcrshr: downloaded packages are in /var/cache/apt/archives/ you can copy that folder's contents to different machines.17:34
ActionParsnipBookwormser: no, the minor releases just means later installs need to upgrade fewer packages17:34
ActionParsnipBookwormser: its the same release17:34
jhutchinsdtcrshr: Yes.17:35
BookwormserOK, great. Thank you for your help, ActionParsnip.17:35
EricKitjhutchins: I'll have to check which version I'm running on my Ubuntu machine.  On the Windows side it's 3.1.  The default Ubuntu load recognized, read and wrote to the NTFS drive.  But Windows 8 did not see the files, detected "errors" and wanted to repair it.17:35
dtcrshrzykotick9: well, I just want them to be installed from the web again, do I have to save thisfolder with binaries?17:35
zykotick9!clone | dtcrshr17:36
ubottudtcrshr: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this may cause problems with multiarch before 12.10) - See also !automate17:36
dtcrshrthanks zykotick917:36
jhutchinsEricKit: Looks like there are some new W8 behaviors that can cause problems with shared disks.17:40
EricKitjhutchins: W8 is one of the main reasons I loaded up Ubuntu.. I wouldn't doubt it.  Must be the best thing that's happened to Ubuntu17:40
xtrizEricKit, what is W8 ?17:43
ActionParsnipxtriz: windows 817:44
xtrizohh17:44
jhutchinsEricKit: Apparently you need to disable the Fast Startup Option.  Windows 8 is doing a "hybrd shutdown" which is more of a suspend in order to conceal how ungodly long it takes to actually boot.  It saves the state of the mounted partition, and changes made by another OS while Windows is down are not recognized.17:45
jhutchinsEricKit: I'd do a little more research on this and not just take my word for it, but that seems to be the issue.17:45
tech11can't open ./configure17:45
ikoniatech11: you don't open it - you execute it17:45
ikoniatech11: you either need to run it with "sh" - or you need to set it to have execute privileges17:46
jhutchinsYou should be able to open it though, it should just be a text file.17:46
EricKitjhutchins:  That's a great idea.  I knew shutdown was actually a hibernate type shutdown.  Actually, now that I think about it... when I "shutdown" and start, Ubuntu won't mount it (it's not allowed).  But when I restart (which is actually a real shutdown and the only way to apply patches), it will mount it and the problem still persists.  Thanks for the idea though.17:46
jhutchinstech11: Note that the file configure must be in the current directory for that to work, and you must have read permissions on it.17:47
ActionParsniptech11: did you read the readme file in the source you have?17:47
jhutchinstech11: You might want to reconsider doing this as you have the potential to wreck your system if you don't understand the process.17:47
jhutchinstech11: It is much better to stick with packages from Ubuntu until you've learned more about how Linux and Ubuntu work.17:48
ActionParsniptech11: is there no PPA for what you are installing? Is it not in the repos?17:50
PrideAndSorrowi wanna change the mount point of /dev/sdb317:57
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MonkeyDustPrideAndSorrow  try      sudo umount /dev/sdb3; mkdir [some easy name]; sudo mount /dev/sdb3 [that name]18:00
vl4kn0Hi, I'm developing a product using ffmpeg, (not avconv) but since ubuntu does not have original ffmpeg in its repositories I found ppa repository that contains original ffmpeg. Problem is that there is ffmpeg from the PPA and ffmpeg from ubuntu repositories. How do I make sure the ffmpeg being installed with apt-get install is the one from ppa not from ubuntu repositories? Also, how do I prevent reinstalling that package when updating?18:01
ImQ009So18:01
ImQ009I got a new pendrive, 16GB18:01
ImQ009And it's 3rd time since I try to install Ubuntu18:01
ImQ009It keeps freezing at random stages18:02
ImQ009It froze at "Please wait" stage18:02
ImQ009And now it froze at "Installing system" stage18:02
VsMaXImQ009, old laptop?18:02
ImQ009VsMaX, Sandybridge18:02
dubhdaraokay now i got gnome working18:02
ImQ009A year old laptop18:02
ImQ009Now something happend that the main window vanished18:03
ImQ009Just like the first time18:03
ImQ009Is that supposed to happen?18:03
chaotic_goodwho here is runignthe show on ubuntu?? I mean varnish to LAMMP with 2 ms the second being memached, software raid 10 or iscsi under psotgrewsql?18:03
dubhdarawat is the strip to the side of gnome in the graphic cd called18:03
VsMaXImQ009, probably you have some unspupported hardware, check if your hardware is supported, dont remember the website but you should be able to find it on google18:04
dubhdaradang it my minds frozen18:04
VsMaXImQ009, also try mint18:04
VsMaXImQ009, linux mint I mean18:04
dubhdarawat is the strip to the side called18:05
chaotic_goodpostgresql aolserver tcl linux oh my!!! with varnish out front, ha proxy in middle and softraid 10 down low!!!18:05
chaotic_goodwww.aolserver.com18:05
ImQ009VsMaX, Live mode worked though18:06
arshavinmy dvd drive reads dvds randomly,but it reads cd's with so many errors,effectively making it impossible to copy or read any data  [ 9143.142301] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 409618:06
arshavin[ 9143.142310] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 1024[ 9143.198286] sr 3:0:0:0: [sr0]18:06
arshavinwhat should I do?18:07
dubhdarashoot it18:07
ImQ009I wanted to use Ubuntu though18:07
ImQ009Not mint18:07
lemonsandpearsI need an email password recovery specialist for hire, pm me if interested18:07
ImQ009That's because I'm a complente Linux n00b18:07
ImQ009And installing stuff on Ubuntu is easy :P18:08
dubhdaraubuntu is suppose to be for the noobs18:08
ImQ009dubhdara, That's why I want to use it18:08
johnjohnjohnhey guys I have several directories that I am parsing and some of the files have annoying prefix like '1234_' or '4544_' added to the front of the file name, is there an easy way to rename losing the number_ at the front?18:08
ImQ009But that fucking shit won't even install :P Sorry for the harsh words but I've been trying to fix my lappy for 2 months18:08
dubhdarawhats the prob again imq00918:08
ImQ009It just won't simply install18:08
dubhdarafrom the graphical cd18:08
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ImQ009It stops at random points18:09
dubhdarayeah it does that18:09
ImQ009And the main window just vanishes18:09
LudovikThis is not necessary a Ubuntu specific question but I was just wondering what the best partition setup would be to have " Operating System / Swap / Program Settings / Storage " in seperate partitions so that if I have to re-install I just have to re-install the "Operating System"?18:09
dubhdarawell you can always install it through the alt/min cd18:09
sdn3rddoes anyone else have an issue where after they issue syndaemon -d -k -i 0.2s their psmouse module has to be reloaded?18:10
dubhdarathen i can walk you through the rest of it but i don't have that neat strip to the left18:10
dubhdaraI can't even remember wat the crap its called18:10
sdn3rdmy trackpad stops tracking the mouse when I issue that until I rmmod psmouse and modprobe it again18:10
xanguaLudovik: lots of guides to make a separate home partition when installing if that is what you ask18:10
arshavinsdn3rd: I have very similar problem on my vaio lapto18:11
LudovikWell, I find that home partition generally is for storage and what not. But let me take a look/18:11
dubhdarayou may have to work on your xorg18:11
dubhdaraor make one18:11
dubhdaraoh you using the pad on the laptop18:12
dubhdarasynaptics i think wat you need18:12
arshavinsdn3rd: I fixed it by modifying my xorg.conf file created by nvidia-xconfig18:12
arshavinsdn3rd: I found archwiki very helpfull though I am using elemnetary os18:14
tech11can or can't i ./options.h18:16
MonkeyDust!details | tech1118:18
ubottutech11: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."18:18
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ImQ0094th attempt18:18
ImQ009Same thing, just stopped at "installing system"18:18
ImQ009doing nothing at all18:19
Neozonzis x11-common required for server type functionality?18:20
skinuxIs /usr/local/src intended to be used as /usr/local/src/<user>/some-src?18:21
ImQ009I don18:23
ImQ009I don't even know what do do anymore :/18:23
f00bar80is there a tool/software for ubuntu like MTPutty for multiple SSH sessions managing?18:23
gordonjcpf00bar80: what does MTPutty do?18:24
MonkeyDustf00bar80  try gigolo18:25
f00bar80gordonjcp, http://ttyplus.com/multi-tabbed-putty/18:25
gordonjcpf00bar80: oh neat18:26
leitaohi. Which glibc will be shipped with 13.10?18:26
gordonjcpf00bar80: well putty is open-source and available for Linux, maybe you could try compiling MTPutty?18:26
tech11i am using ubuntu 13.0418:26
f00bar80gordonjcp, there's no a MTputty like precompiled package?18:29
OerHeksleitao, ask in #ubuntu+118:29
leitaoOerHeks: thankas18:29
gordonjcpf00bar80: oh, it appears that mtputty is closed-source, which is legally questionable if it derives from putty18:29
bekksgordonjcp: It isnt derived, it actually just uses putty.18:30
team_edwardhow do i get this to work for lowercase files too?  $ for file in {A..Z}*; do echo $file; done18:30
bekksfor file in {a..Z}*; do echo $file; done18:30
gordonjcpbekks: oh, putty is MIT licence, I thought it was GPL18:30
kruugI'm looking to modify the motd of server 12.04 to include the stardate.  Anyone know of a good way to do so?18:30
team_edwardthanks bekks18:30
gordonjcpbekks: so mtputty is legal, just morally objectionable18:30
bekksgordonjcp: Yeah :)18:30
gordonjcpkruug: have you got a script to generate the stardate?18:31
team_edwardbad substitution bekks18:31
f00bar80gordonjcp, so there no way to have something like it in ubuntu?18:31
gordonjcpf00bar80: maybe, I don't know18:31
team_edwardah nvm i see it18:31
gordonjcpf00bar80: I just open up a terminal and ssh to the machine I want to connect to18:31
gordonjcpf00bar80: actually these days I mostly use mosh instead18:31
kruuggordonjcp: no, I don't.  I wasn't sure if that would have been reinventing the wheel or not18:31
bekksteam_edward: Then use two substitutions, one in lowercase, one in uppercase.18:31
kruugIf that's the case, I'll probably just skip it as it's more of a joke between a coworker and I18:32
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Griff|Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as18:32
Griff|bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD). When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5]18:32
Griff|along with / and boot.18:32
FloodBot1Griff|: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:32
gordonjcpkruug: take a look in /etc/update-motd.d18:32
MonkeyDustbbl18:33
kruuggordonjcp: will that remove what's already in there?18:33
gordonjcpkruug: that contains a bunch of scripts updated periodically18:33
hassanvbxv<18:34
UrielVigilantehow to install bcm 4311 on ubuntu 13.04 . I alread try this before :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6159854/18:34
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Griff|Anyone able to assist with my issue?18:35
ImQ009And now it' stuck at "please wait" after scanning local repositories18:35
ImQ009wtf is going on18:35
Griff|Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as18:36
Griff|bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).18:36
bekksImQ009: Then "please wait".18:36
Griff|When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.18:36
bekksGriff|: Too long, didnt read.18:36
ImQ009bekks, The whole point being I don't know how long I'm supposed to wait. :P18:36
bekksImQ009: Until it finishes :)18:37
ImQ009Because I don't know whether the window is gonna stay like that for-nvm, this time it did something18:37
ImQ009The window used to randomly vanish after that :P18:37
bekksImQ009: So waiting means: "wait longer than 10s" :)18:37
ImQ009bekks, That was actually 10 minutes :P18:37
ImQ009Anyway, let's hope it finishes the installation :D18:38
fellayaboyfrom text mode how can i run (startx) in hardware rendering mode instead of software rendering mode18:39
bekksfellayaboy: Dont use startx anymore, thats heavily deprecated.18:39
fellayaboybekks what do i use then18:39
azizzinstall gentoo18:40
bekksfellayaboy: Use lightdm to start your X.18:40
fellayaboythanks18:40
killerhey18:40
fellayaboyim using mate though does that matter? im not using unity18:40
killerwhere are the fonts location in ubuntu18:40
bekksfellayaboy: Do you use Ubuntu or Mint?18:41
fellayaboymint i believe18:41
bekksfellayaboy: Then please consult the mint support.18:41
bekks!mint | fellayaboy18:41
ubottufellayaboy: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org18:41
fellayaboyok sorry thanks18:41
UrielVigilanteIam installing bcm 4311 on ubuntu 13.04 , after i write : sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree  , on terminal it says is not able to find the package. ! I also tryed  trought out the software source, and then add the additional drivers, it dont work too. why ?18:41
siddsubuntu software center and steam closes within seconds after opening. Help..18:41
Griff|Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as18:43
Griff|bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).18:44
Griff|When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.18:44
UrielVigilante!bcm18:44
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx18:44
team_edwardI need to get this to work for lowercase because the folders I want to send the files to are lower case initial characters as well: $ for file in {A..Z}; do mv $file* $file ; done18:44
zykotick9sidds: try starting one of them from a terminal, do you get any error output?18:44
zykotick9team_edward: did you try {a..z} perhaps?18:45
siddshii everyone. i'm facing a problem. ubuntu software center and steam closes within seconds after opening. Help..18:45
team_edwardi have mixed upper and lowercase on the initial filenames18:45
team_edwardso it needs to include both for those, but ignore case for the folders18:45
sdn3rdarshavin elementary os?18:45
UrielVigilanteI cant find how to make bcm 4311 work on ubuntu 13.0418:46
Griff|{a..z,A..Z} ?18:46
Griff|Shot in the dark.18:46
UrielVigilante!bcm 13.0418:46
ImQ009How long is creating user stage supposed to take?18:46
wilee-nilee!broadcom | UrielVigilante18:46
ubottuUrielVigilante: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx18:46
ImQ009It's already taking 10 minutes18:46
ImQ009I didn't pick any sort of encryption18:47
team_edwardsorry no luck griff18:47
Griff|:( Thanks anyways dude18:47
siddszykotick9: yes i am getting an error. where can i paste the info. it's a little big.18:48
zykotick9sidds: paste.ubuntu.com18:48
siddszykotick9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6159913/18:49
siddszykotick9: this error is for software-center18:50
Griff|Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as18:50
Griff|bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).18:50
zykotick9sidds: sorry, i don't have a clue.  good luck!18:50
Griff|When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.18:50
FloodBot1Griff|: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:50
BerylliumHi there. It sounds like the apple magic trackpad works on Ubuntu 12.04 and 13.04 (with some minor annoyances in BT pairing, but that's fine) - just wondering, though. Has anyone here used a magic trackpad or other multitouch device in Ubuntu? Are there easy ways to set up gestures, like tab-left/tab-right in a web browser by using finger swipes?18:51
azizzare you guys going to switch to SteamOS or what?18:53
killerwhat is the location of system fonts18:54
siddsubuntu software center and steam closes within seconds after opening. help needed..18:54
wilee-nileeazizz, not everyone is a gamer and this is support18:55
azizzwhy the fuck would you not play video games on your PC?18:57
azizzare you a coding nerd or something?18:57
IdleOne!language18:57
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.18:57
azizz!cryaboutit18:57
sdn3rdarshavin anyhow im using saucy gnomeubuntu18:58
azizzbesides, we're all grown men here. don't act like you've never said the word "fuck" in your life18:58
OerHekssdn3rd, saucy is not supported here (yet) join #ubuntu+118:58
IdleOneazizz: I'm going to ask you not to use that language in here again18:59
sdn3rdOerHeks: darn and its like what, a day or two away form release18:59
sdn3rdhaha18:59
azizzwhat language? what word should I not use?18:59
azizzI am confused18:59
IdleOneazizz: swear one more time and there will be no confusion18:59
azizzI just want to know the exact word that I should not use18:59
ImQ009Nice troll19:00
tozensidds: cd ~/.config; rm -rf software-center && sudo apt-get install -- reinstall software-center ??19:00
tozensidds: cd ~/.config; rm -rf software-center && sudo apt-get install --reinstall software-center ??19:01
tozensorry19:01
siddstozen: did that already. did not solve the issue.19:01
azizzam I allowed to say "ballsack"?19:01
azizzthats not a swear word19:01
tozensidds: did you tried to launch software-center through console?19:02
dieguezzhello, can somebody help me? i need to find fstab file19:02
zykotick9dieguezz: /etc/fstab you mean?19:03
dieguezzoh yes!!  tyvm zykotick919:03
siddstozen: yes. the error is in the pastbin. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6159913/19:04
Griff|Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as19:04
Griff|bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).19:04
Griff|When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.19:04
FloodBot1Griff|: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:04
siddstozen: can u help on this??19:05
mrrcpwhats the best method to get netflix to work on 12.0419:06
tozensidds: have you tried to launch with sudo?19:06
mrrcp?19:06
DJones!netflix | mrrcp19:06
ubottumrrcp: If you use Netflix, there is an unofficial solution for using it in Ubuntu detailed in http://www.compholio.com/netflix-desktop/ - bug reports in https://bugs.launchpad.net/netflix-desktop19:06
siddstozen: yes. this error was with sudo.19:07
tozensidds: let me think for a while19:07
siddstozen: when i open it from dash..it just closes after 1-2 seconds.19:07
zykotick9sidds: you should NEVER use sudo with GUI applications!  see "/msg ubottu gksudo" for details.  but i don't think that's related to your error (but it might cause others)19:07
siddszykotick9: yes u r right. i use gksudo for gui applications.19:10
zykotick9sidds: did this ever work?  if so, do you know what changed?  and, is your system up-to-date?19:12
sam113101does any of you want to be my girlfriend?19:13
siddszykotick9: yes my system is up-to-date. what i'm suspecting is the a few days back "sudo apt-get autoremove" uninstalled 3 libs which i suspect might be causing this prob. not sure though.19:14
zykotick9sidds: well, you could check /var/log/apt/history.log to see what was removed?19:15
tozensidds r u here?19:15
siddszykotick9: checked that. installed some of the uninstalled ones with no effect.19:16
siddstozen: yes i'm still here.19:16
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tozensidds: what sais sudo ap-get update?19:16
zykotick9sidds: i gots nothin'.  again, best of luck.19:16
tozensidds: what sais sudo apt-get update?19:17
ubuntusuckshi19:17
siddszykotick9: thanks..19:17
siddstozen: did that. no change from that.19:17
tozenubuntusucks: hi! what the matter, pal?19:17
tozensidds: so clear yes?19:18
ImQ009Hmm19:18
ImQ009Odd19:18
mib_kitkathi, i'm looking for a decent irc client for a gtk-based environment19:18
ImQ009Chromium won't install on 13:0419:18
ubuntusuckstozen: i have problems installing ubuntu on a gtp ssd19:18
mib_kitkatmaybe alternatives to xchat?19:18
ImQ00913.04* It complains about missing libs19:18
mrrcpmib_kitkat: irssi19:18
ubuntusucksgpt sorry19:18
mrrcpits the best19:18
siddstozen: what could this mean. /usr/share/app-install/desktop/workrave:workrave.desktop' could not be read correctly.19:19
mib_kitkatmrrcp, well ok thanks19:19
ubuntusucksis it possible to use ubuntu with a gpt ssd on a non uefi bios mobo ???19:19
oaulakhhow to add desklets to ubuntu19:19
oaulakh?19:19
OldTexasubuntusucks, I got a SSD on mine, not sure 'bout the UEFI.  I only use AMD.19:20
tozensidds: how you get it?19:21
ubuntusucksOldTexas: does your bios look like a normal bios or is it colourful, with mouse support ???19:21
bekksubuntusucks: Thats pretty pointless to use GPT if your mobo doesnt support UEFI.19:21
ImQ009it just gives me "package dependencies cannot be resolved" when I try to install chromium19:22
siddstozen: this is while reinstalling software-center19:22
OldTexasColorful with mou8se support.  Dangdest thang I ever saw.19:22
Mouser25ubuntusucks, My ssd is gpt and I am using grub without UEFI'19:22
zykotick9bekks: ? GPT supports large disks, MSDOS partition tables don't.19:22
bekksubuntusucks: The colors of a BIOS do net tell you anythiong about UEFI-support. HP Itanium BIOS's are evening black and white and support UEFI since decades.19:22
siddstozen: if u want i'll paste the complete error in pasebin..19:22
Griff|Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as19:22
Griff|bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).19:22
bekkszykotick9: I strongly doubt he has a > 2TB SSD.19:22
Griff|When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.19:22
tozensidds: yes please19:22
ubuntusucksok, gpt with non uefi isnt suggested  here - so i ahev to format and re install :((19:23
OldTexasI got a M5A99X Evo R2.0 Asus board.19:23
zykotick9bekks: i wasn't aware it was an SSD, i'm not seeing the other side of this conversation.19:23
ImQ009Ok, I changed the download source to United States19:23
ImQ009Now it says "package chromium-browser isn't available"19:23
siddstozen: here it is.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6160025/19:24
bekksImQ009: USe chrome, not chromium, if you want PepperFlash support.19:24
Calinouit's chromium then19:25
Calinoubekks: you can backport pepperflash19:25
Calinouchrome is bad19:25
ubuntusucksdon't use chrome , use platinum19:25
OldTexasIntel is in cahoots with Microsoft.  They probably sabatoged their Intels for Linux.19:25
bekksCalinou: Thats FUD, honestly. And how do you backport PeppperFlash then - any links?19:25
Calinouno, it isn't19:25
Calinoubekks: search engines are your friend there19:26
Calinoubut I'm sure you can backport pepperflash to chromium...19:26
ubuntusucksIntel has developped the new 3.12 kernel, i guess they are pro linux+19:26
Calinouthey did not ubuntusucks19:26
bekksCalinou: So you dont even have a link then. Its FUD, you just prove it.19:26
Calinouthey aren't the only kernel contributor19:26
OldTexasAh, cool.19:26
Calinouhttps://startpage.com/do/search?q=backporting+pepperflash+to+chromium19:26
Calinouhave a good read 8)19:26
bekksubuntusucks: Intel hasnt developed a single kernel until know. They just employ several kernel devs, as other companies do, too.19:27
OldTexasThey'll prolly try to pass it off as OS/319:27
bekks-k19:27
loahello, i am trying to add unity://desktop-icon to com.canonical.Unity.Launcher using dconf-editor, all added correctrly but after relog it dissapears from unity launcher.19:27
loawhat ca i check?19:27
DJonesubuntusucks: Do you have an actual Ubuntu upport question?19:27
ubuntusucksmany questions DJones19:27
DJonesubuntusucks: Well we wait wait with bated breath, remembering !guidleines and !coc19:28
tozensidds: seems it's rarings bug... :(19:29
ubuntusucksjust joking, ubuntu is so brilliant that everything is running perfectly ;)+19:29
ImQ009bekks, I downloaded the package from Google.com. It says "Depedency is not satisfable: libxss1" :P19:29
tozenwas reading couple topicks on askubuntu.com19:29
bekksImQ009: Then ask google what they did there :)19:29
ImQ009bekks, Then why recommend using it in the first place? :/19:30
bekksImQ009: Because google even has a PPA.19:31
ubuntusuckstroll whq just called i have to go19:31
surfdueVermoot, hola.19:31
f00bar80how to save ssh credentials for multiple servers from terminal to get access automaticall without the need everytime to fill in the server's credentials ?19:31
surfdue;)19:31
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VermootHi there ! I have an OSX drive on which I'd like to copy a file from my ubuntu setup. So I guess I'm looking for a way to have writing permissions on an HFS+ volume.19:32
VermootI tried this (http://askubuntu.com/questions/332315/how-to-read-and-write-hfs-journaled-external-hdd-in-ubuntu-without-access-to-os) with no luck, as a result i get what I think to be the man mount page.19:33
ImQ009bekks, Wtf. It won't let me ender super user. it keeps saying auth failiture19:33
Griff|Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as19:33
Griff|bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).19:33
Griff|When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.19:33
Vermootsurfdue, ;)19:33
bekksImQ009: I am sorry. I didnt gget what you were saying.19:33
surfdueVermoot, hopefully someone can help you here.19:34
ImQ009bekks, What I'm trying to say is even Ubuntu is too confusing for me :/ I fail to install one single piece of software19:35
CalinouImQ009: you didn't see what Griff| said19:35
Calinouthat's 300% more confusing19:35
ImQ009Just installing the operating system took me literally whole, WHOLE day19:35
bekksImQ009: Because you do it like you did on Windows. Download something, doubleclick it, hope the best. Thats not how to install software in Ubuntu.19:35
ImQ009bekks, That's why I never used it :P I'm not a patient person19:36
* Calinou can vouch for it19:36
ImQ009Fiddling around with just installing something has always been annoying for me19:36
bekksImQ009: [#ubuntu]19:37
bekksImQ009: Sorry.19:37
bekksImQ009: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/google_chrome19:37
* ImQ009 googles "How to install Chrome on ubuntu"19:37
VermootImQ009, installing software on ubuntu is way easier than it is on Windows. You just have to learn how for a bit and then it'll all be good ;)19:37
Calinou"Thats not how to install software in Ubuntu."19:37
Calinoumeanwhile: advocates PPAs19:37
ImQ009Vermoot, I don't think it is :P19:37
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ImQ009Not for me at least19:37
Calinounow you know why I say chrome is bad19:38
ImQ009ESPECIALLY if I have to download and configure libs for every thing I want to install19:38
VermootImQ009, in a lot of cases installing software is just typing one line in a terminal, or similar to installing an app on a smartphone.19:38
ImQ009Right now I'm trying to figure out how to enter super user19:38
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OerHeksthe package on the chrome page is just a ppa AFAIK, you might want chromium-browser, without the pdf reader flash and serial number19:38
f00bar80ppl any comment19:39
ImQ009But at the moment all it says auth failiture19:39
ImQ009And I have no damn idea why19:39
ImQ009I'm using the same password I used when I prompted me during some installations under Soft Center19:39
Calinouare you really sure? check keyboard layout and caps lock and num lock19:41
CalinouImQ009: don't use sudo su19:41
ImQ009Calinou, How am I supposed to install it without sudo/su19:43
Calinousudo <your command here>19:44
Calinouyou just don't use sudo su19:44
PiciCalinou means "sudo su" as one command19:44
f00bar80even how to manually connect to multiple servers using ssh as th way it's done in MTPUTTY?19:46
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gordonjcpf00bar80: open a tab, run ssh19:47
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ImQ009Calinou, I didn't use sudo su19:48
ImQ009Why would I?19:48
Calinouwe never know19:48
ImQ009I tried this http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/10/heres-how-to-install-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal/19:48
ImQ009Doesn't work :P19:48
ImQ009How the hell do you install Chrome on Ubuntu?19:48
f00bar80gordonjcp, i want credentials/ports to be save for every server, with no need to fill them every timne19:48
apes /leave19:49
bindiImQ009: download 32 bit or 64 bit .deb from http://google.com/chrome - doubleclick on the file downloaded, shouldn't be hard19:49
mrrcpf00bar80: ssh keys?19:49
ImQ009bindi, That's what I did19:50
mrrcp!sshkey19:50
mrrcphmm19:50
ImQ009It complains about missing libs19:50
zippo^has firefox-launchpad-plugin no .xpi ?19:51
MonkeyDustImQ009  try chromium-browser from teh repos https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome19:51
fudusdownload the .deb, double click, hit install?19:52
OerHeksor perform " sudo apt-get install -f  " to correct missing libs19:52
irreverantbased on that link; chrome is better hands down19:52
fudusit is the same as a msi in windows19:52
fudusbut with less "next"19:53
ImQ009I tried sudo apt-get install libxss1:i38619:53
ImQ009It says "the package is not available, but is referred to by another package. this may mean that the packager is missing ..........." I'm sure you know the rest of that error19:54
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ImQ009E: Package 'name' has no installation candidate19:54
ImQ009HOW DO YOU INSTALL THIS THING!19:54
fudusdo another update, one of the servers is down19:54
ImQ009Update? What kind of update?19:54
fudusor click the software update and let it do it in a gui-way19:55
fudusupdater*19:55
f00bar80mrrcp, how ? any guide?19:55
ImQ009fudus, Ok, I got to the updater19:56
ImQ009It asked me about updated version of soft center19:56
ImQ009And it says "Package does not exist"19:56
fuduscheck for updates, let it finish, then let it update19:56
awaadIs there any application that helps me to manage my access into different servers with different IPs and different credentials?19:57
irreverantis peppermint os based on ubuntu?19:58
awaadirreverant: I am using ubuntu.19:58
irreverantyes; i'm thinking of installing a linux distro on my dell mini not sure if it's going to stay as ubuntu19:59
Piciawaad: Like a password safe?19:59
awaadPici: Like "Putty" and saves access credentials.20:00
Piciawaad: Theres Putty.20:00
Pici!info putty20:00
ubottuputty (source: putty): Telnet/SSH client for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.62-10ubuntu0.1 (raring), package size 326 kB, installed size 799 kB20:00
ImQ009I'm already scared how much time setting up Wine is gonna take :(20:01
irreverantputty is awesome!20:01
ImQ009I'm not sure whether I'll be able to make it in time20:01
irreverantdoes anyone recommend peppermint os?20:01
Piciirreverant: We only support Ubuntu here, so not really, no.20:01
JohnMichaelFFSHey, I'm having some issues with a mdadm array on a fresh install of 12.04.3 server20:03
JohnMichaelFFSOne of my RAID1 arrays was reported as degraded on the second boot, so I tried removing and re-adding the degraded device to the array, but now when i boot the system it gets stuck in a loop20:03
JohnMichaelFFSit prints out the log messages about the array still being degraded and rebuilding, but the boot freezes and then the same message output again every 30 or so seconds20:04
JohnMichaelFFSany ideas on what is going on?20:04
irreverantdoes ubuntu support conky?20:07
Calinouirreverant: yes20:08
Griff|Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as20:10
Griff|bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).20:10
Griff|When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.20:10
FloodBot1Griff|: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:10
bekksGriff|: Too long; didnt read.20:10
alex1989hello, could somebody help me, please? :(20:11
zykotick9alex1989: ask a question and see ;)20:11
alex1989okay well, i just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu on a new laptop and all i get is a black screen prompting me to login20:12
alex1989so i do, and its just..still black screen and text20:12
alex1989the installation went fine, had the full gui so i assumed nothing went wrong20:12
bekksalex1989: Which text?20:12
alex1989just asking me to login20:12
bekksalex1989: And after login in, what happens?20:12
alex1989just the command line, nothing else20:13
alex1989very strange20:13
bekksalex1989: So your X doesnt start up. Take a look at the logs to see what happens.20:13
alex1989how do i do that, bekks?20:13
zykotick9alex1989: did you use the regular desktop ubuntu install?  or server or mini?20:13
alex1989i am fairly certain i used the regular desktop installation, else surely the install would not have used the gui?20:13
Griff|Sigh, I take it nobody knows / has had experience with my issue then. Is there a better place I can ask my question?20:14
zykotick9alex1989: "lspci | grep -i vga"20:14
alex1989sorry for stealing your thunder, griff.20:14
bekksGriff|: I just refused to read, because your text was too long :)20:14
alex1989keeps saying command not found, is that an I at the start?20:15
alex1989or an L?20:15
alex1989ahh it was an l. forgive me20:15
user154pw bots in here?20:16
bekksuser154: No.20:16
greenuthey how i can execute adb comand on terminal20:16
alex1989not much comes up, just "VGA compatible controller: advanced micro devices [AMD]20:16
user154k20:16
greenut ubuntu@ubuntu:~/HTC$ adb push flash_image /data/local/20:16
greenut cannot stat 'flash_image': No such file or directory20:16
greenut it says on terminal. whats wrong20:16
alex1989model is Radeon HD 821020:16
bekksgreenut: The file "flash_image" does not exist.20:16
greenutanyone help me... im runing live cd20:16
greenut ubuntu@ubuntu:~/HTC$ adb push flash_image /data/local/20:17
greenut cannot stat 'flash_image': No such file or directory20:17
greenut it says on terminal. whats wrong20:17
bekksgreenut: The file "flash_image" does not exist.20:17
greenutyeah im running  ubuntu live cd20:18
greenuthow to solve it?20:18
bekksgreenut: By replacing "flash_image" with the correct filename.20:18
MonkeyDustgreenut  and what is it supposed to do?20:18
alex1989so i entered the command and it hasnt really given me any logs regarding errors, it just tells me the model of the GPU20:18
greenuti need access my phone to root20:18
alex1989what would be the next step?20:19
bekksalex1989: Thats what the command should do. TEl you which graphics card you have.20:19
alex1989ah, well its an Radeon HD 821020:19
bekksgreenut: Then replace "flash_image" with the correct filename.20:19
alex1989im aware AMD support on linux is a little flaky, but im not exactly gaming on a gpu that low-end20:19
greenuthttp://pastebin.com/embed_iframe.php?i=4pY738C520:20
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greenutim struggling on that part: 4. Enter the following commands (in bold):20:20
greenutit doesnt let me access20:20
bekksgreenut: Then replace "flash_image" with the correct filename.20:20
greenutsorry. which flash_image ure talking abt?20:21
bekksgreenut: The one you are typing in that command.20:21
greenutmy directory where files is in the home/HTC20:21
bekksgreenut: If you dont know what you are doing there, you should not root your phone.20:21
greenutlet me investigate. hd on.20:22
alex1989bekks, any suggestions on what to do next? :)20:22
alex1989appreciate your help20:22
bekksalex1989: Sorry, no. I am refusing to deliberately using ATI/AMD grpahics cards since my first own computer.20:22
Calinouread: nvidia fanboy20:23
MonkeyDustintel here, never any issues20:23
bekksCalinou: realist, not fanboy.20:23
alex1989i guess i'll go try the forums then, thanks for your help anyway20:23
Calinouyes, fanboy20:23
Calinoubut I gtg :P20:23
Calinoubekks: you clearly haven't used AMD stuff recently20:23
bekksCalinou: I wont do it, though.20:24
p1l0tIn fstab should be /Expansion Drive/ or /Expansion\ Drive/20:24
bazhang!behelpful | Calinou20:24
ubottuCalinou: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.20:24
mn3na3aquestion: should i upgrade my ram to 6 GB instead of 4GB ?20:24
bekksp1l0t: The latter.20:24
Calinoudepends on what you do20:24
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bekksmn3na3a: If you need 6GB of RAM, then yes.20:24
p1l0tbekks: thanks20:24
MonkeyDustmn3na3a  if you feel more comfortable with 6GB, then yes20:25
mn3na3afor my usage my rams takes up to like 60 - 70% but i wonder if i upgraded my ram would my system be faster?20:25
Calinouno20:25
bekksmn3na3a: Unused RAM is wasted RAM.20:25
CalinouRAM doesn't mean performance20:25
bekksmn3na3a: Please read http://www.linuxatemyram.com/20:26
mn3na3athen i should stick with the 4GB?20:26
mn3na3athx bekks :)20:26
f00bar80anybody can point me on how to automate servers' ssh remote access in ubuntu without using keys?20:28
bekks!ssh | f00bar8020:29
ubottuf00bar80: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)20:29
krambiorixhi, i want to set my apache locale to dutch ... How can i do that without modifying the ubuntu locale?20:29
cn28hstrange issue I'm having -- I upgraded from 12.04 -> 12.10 and no issues.  I then upgraded to 13.04 and had some display issues. Unity wasn't coming up, but I fixed that by enabling unity and window decorations and opengl etc in the compiz settings manager20:30
cn28hafter doing that I have unity again and window decorations, but I can't move windows by their title bars20:30
cn28hI upgraded to 13.10 just to see if it would help, but same problem20:30
cn28hany ideas what might cause that ?20:30
Kinglethello all. my brightness get low and high after seconds when i'm watching via VLC20:32
zykotick9cn28h: if you are on 13.10 now, try #ubuntu+1 as it's not supported here (yet)20:32
cn28haight20:32
Kingletwhen it's idle get low and again get hight and ...20:32
Kinglethigh*20:32
Kingletanyone knows a solution?20:33
loahello, i am trying to add unity://desktop-icon to com.canonical.Unity.Launcher using dconf-editor, all added correctrly but after relog it dissapears from unity launcher.20:37
prp-ewhen Ubuntu 13.10 Beta 1 will be released?!20:38
MonkeyDustprp-e  not, beta's only for kubuntu, xubuntu and lubuntu20:40
MonkeyDustprp-e  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule20:40
jared_hi20:44
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Guest66166anyone here?20:44
prp-eMonkeyDust, According to that link, It should be released yesterday !20:44
Guest66166anyone here?? i need help20:45
Guest66166ANYone HERE20:45
MonkeyDustprp-e  1) it's still 26the here   2) not sure if it's for ubuntu or for the 'opt in flavors'20:45
prp-eMonkeyDust, If you live in GB , time should be about 9:30 PM.20:46
prp-eI have to wait for it :)20:46
glycanHello. I booted in text mode, now I can't start x.20:47
linuxuz3rtry startx20:47
glycanYeah, I know. It doesn't work.20:47
linuxuz3rwhat error do you get20:48
glycanxinit: connection to X server lost20:48
glycanthen it seems to be normal X termination20:48
Guest66166u need to connect to wifi and do sudo apt-get xinit20:49
glycan"waiting for X server to shut down  ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log\nServer terminated successfully (0). Closing log file."20:49
linuxuz3rglycan try ps aux | grep xserver20:49
glycannothing20:49
glycanGuest66166: xinit is installed and at the latest version20:50
linuxuz3rwhat happens if you try to boot normally20:51
glycanI can boot normally20:51
glycanbut I'd rather not20:51
linuxuz3r?20:51
linuxuz3rare you root when you try startx?20:51
zykotick9glycan: how are you trying to start xorg exactly?20:52
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greenutbekks: hey found my problem... i had to extract everything. now i have another problem. look at http://pastebin.com/1BMv4sFX20:56
greenutit says permission is denied at end20:56
greenuthow to get around it. im running ubuntu live cd.20:56
glycanlinuxuz3r: yes, I am20:58
glycanzykotick9: startx20:58
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greenutbekks: hi, i solved my problem. can you please check it.. can u help me? check at http://pastebin.com/1BMv4sFX20:58
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glycanI want to use text-only by default20:58
MonkeyDust!text20:58
ubottuTo start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode20:58
greenuthow to get around with permission denied running ubuntu live cd?20:59
greenutusing adb shell command20:59
glycanSo how do I start X properly?20:59
linuxuz3rwhen you boot in safe mode i dont think you can startx21:00
gordonjcp!x | glycan21:00
MonkeyDustgreenut  if you don't get an answer here, try asking in #ubuntu-touch21:00
ubottuglycan: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution21:00
linuxuz3rlet me boot my laptop21:00
zykotick9glycan: perhaps "sudo service lightdm start" (but there is some, other way ubuntu is using these days...)21:00
greenuthey anyone can help me how to get around with command adb shell - permission denied? please check at http://pastebin.com/1BMv4sFX21:00
glycanzykotick9: thanks, that works!21:00
greenutok thank you, MonkeyDust.21:01
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linuxuz3rglycan how exactly did you boot in text mode21:04
greenuthey anyone can help me how to get around with command adb shell - permission denied? please check at http://pastebin.com/1BMv4sFX21:07
gregor30051hi, i try to connect my wiimote to ubuntu 13 but i have the problem that i can't load the module uinput "sudo modprobe uinput", lsmod do not display it after i run the command and i get no error message. can anybody help?21:08
linuxuz3rgreenut, you are not in ubuntu anymore when you execute line 1421:09
Griff|Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as21:12
Griff|bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).21:12
Griff|When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.21:13
somanWhy xubuntu 12.04 doesn't recognize canon photocamera? It recognized it yesterday but dosn't do that today. Windows always recognizes it well. lsusb _ dmesg outputs => http://paste.kde.org/pf1c2d548/23000313/21:13
Griff|this channel is useless :(21:17
gordonjcp!patience | Griff|21:17
ubottuGriff|: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/21:17
SunTsuGriff|: You're going wrong where you use the hardware RAID21:18
irssi-mikeGriff|: What's your question21:18
gordonjcpGriff|: and also, you're doing it wrong where you use encrypted partitions21:18
lord2800hi, I'm having an issue with audio on ubuntu 13.04 server--it works via speaker-test, but not via XBMC21:18
Griff|Can I not encrypt the lvm on the raid?21:19
gordonjcpGriff|: have you done it before?21:19
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SunTsuGriff|: Hardware RAID will get you in trouble, use Linux' RAID facilities and better encrypt the whole disk21:19
gregor30051can anybody help when the kernel module uinput can't be loaded? (http://www.circuitdb.com/?p=598)21:19
Griff|No, never, I figured why would it not be possible? RAID is virtulized into a logical drive anyway so whats the difference?21:19
gordonjcpGriff|: well it sounds massively overcomplicated21:19
lord2800I've configured /etc/asound.conf to use device hw:0,3 as the pcm default, and when I do speaker-test it either doesn't pick that up or doesn't use it; if I do speaker-test -D hw:0,3 it works21:20
SunTsuGriff|: The difference is: If your controller breaks your data probably is gone too21:20
Griff|But with RAID[5] I suffer a massive performance hit with soft raid21:20
Griff|Thats fine21:20
irssi-mikelord2800: is xmbc in the audio group21:20
gordonjcpGriff|: if your machine can't deal with soft RAID it will be even worse with encryption21:20
Griff|I have a 4tb I'm planning to automate backups to21:20
lord2800yes21:20
lord2800(that threw me at first too)21:20
Griff|believe me, my machine can deal with soft raid, but thats not the issue.21:21
lord2800speaker-test works without any options when run as root, but not as the xbmc user21:21
gordonjcpGriff|: how experienced are you with setting up Linux on complex arrangements of drives?21:21
oz0negordonjcp: can't be that exp. as of then he would have read up on the container and lvm on theyr pages. and maybe taken the point of using the software raid.21:22
gordonjcpGriff|: keep it simple21:23
Griff|Indeed, I'm not. I have a vague idea of where I want to be though21:23
seynbGriff: sounds like your bootloader if it's just blinking cursor21:23
gordonjcpseynb: yees21:23
lord2800hmm, it seems it's making a liar out of me now, without an X server running (but with pulseaudio -vv running), it doesn't work at all21:23
seynbGriff: where did you install grub ?21:23
Griff|Thats what I thought, but boot is there.21:23
gordonjcpcould be just as simple as installing grub to the wrong place ;-)21:23
Griff|It was handled by ubuntu install. I assume it went to the bootable raid partition i selected for the install.21:23
Griff|Hmm21:24
delinquentmeI'm in a dir w a ton of directory ... I want to get the total HD space taken up by all files starting with " ex1202"21:24
gregor30051can anybody help when the kernel module uinput can't be loaded? (http://www.circuitdb.com/?p=598)21:24
seynbGriff : see ubuntu is not good for advanced setups i have luks/lvm/fakeraid but i had to set it up manually21:24
Griff|Yes I have seen a few articles speaking of such21:24
delinquentmesomething like du -sh ./ex1202  ... except the sum total ... not the individual values for each21:24
Griff|What sort of read/write do you get and out of what disks?21:25
Griff|and config21:25
irssi-mikelord2800: what happens if you login as xmbx then do alsamixer, is that possible?21:25
irssi-mikexmbc*21:25
Griff|Hmm, for refrence, where should grub be installed?21:26
Griff|./boot/grub if i remember?21:26
seynbGriff : yeah but then grub-install has to put the core image on the mbr/partition21:27
Ben64the files for it yeah... but it gets installed in the mbr21:27
lord2800irssi-mike: I see the standard alsamixer screen, with the correct card selected by default, and no muted outputs21:27
Griff|Hm21:27
Griff|This could possibly be the issue.21:27
seynbGriff: your best bet is to read this and https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/System_Encryption_with_LUKS21:28
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irssi-mikelord2800: gnome-alsamixer too?21:28
lord2800not running gnome21:28
irssi-mikewell even still21:28
gordonjcpGriff|: simplify it for now, and concentrate on adding the RAID arrays later21:28
Griff|will this not be incompatible with ubuntu to some extent?21:28
irssi-mikemight hace something muted21:28
gordonjcpGriff|: leave the encryption stuff off too21:28
Griff|Hmm21:29
lord2800I suspect it's something to do with the card it's trying to use in XBMC, now that I'm fiddling with options here--speaker-test -D hdmi works as the xbmc user21:29
Griff|What would be the mininum space i would want for booting the OS on an SSD?21:29
AdityaRajhi21:29
Griff|I don't have much to play with.21:29
gordonjcpGriff|: 8GB ought to be plenty21:29
oz0neif i am not to rusty, put /boot on a accessable none encypted. anyway i recommand reading the whole FAQ for LUKS at http://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#2._Setup21:29
AdityaRaji need some help with my ubuntu installation21:29
SonikkuAmerica!raid21:29
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto21:29
gordonjcpGriff|: especially if you stick /home on another drive21:29
Griff|Thanks21:30
seynbGriff: if you have encryption then you have to check your /etc/crypttab probably do an update-initramfs and make sure your grub config passes root=/dev/mapper/root_decrypted21:30
Griff|Yes21:30
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: What kind of help, sir?21:30
Griff|Oooh21:30
AdityaRaji need to setup bootable stick but i am unable to format it with fat3221:30
linuxuz3rlater21:30
AdityaRaji have used the inbuilt device manager21:30
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Device manager? Are you on Windows?21:30
AdityaRajbut ubootnetin does not seem to be able to detect my pen drive still21:30
AdityaRajno21:30
AdityaRaji am on ubuntu21:30
AdityaRaji read somewhere that i need to use gparted maybe21:30
gregor30051does anybody use a wiimote under ubuntu?21:31
AdityaRajbut when i try to install gparted with aptget i get errors21:31
Griff|Thanks so much guys. Saving this chat.21:31
seynbAdityaRaj : can you do a sudo fdisk -l21:31
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Can you !pastebin them for us?21:31
AdityaRajsure21:31
f00bar80anybody can point me on how to automate servers' ssh remote access without using keys?21:31
AdityaRajwith the pen drive mounted ?21:31
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Yes.21:31
Shining_KoW210Hey everyone21:32
Shining_KoW210I need help with TightVNC21:32
irssi-mikeAdityaRaj: be careful with that, no long filenames21:32
AdityaRajDisk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes21:33
AdityaRaj255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders21:33
AdityaRajUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes21:33
AdityaRajSector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes21:33
AdityaRajI/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes21:33
FloodBot1AdityaRaj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:33
AdityaRajDisk identifier: 0x0000ada321:33
SonikkuAmerica!pastebin21:33
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:33
Shining_KoW210!pastebin21:33
Shining_KoW210Hmm21:33
Shining_KoW210!pastebin21:33
Shining_KoW210Hey everyone21:34
SonikkuAmericaShining_KoW210: Once I !flag the bot, it doesn't do anything for ~15-20 seconds (to prevent spam).21:34
SonikkuAmerica(or anyone else)21:34
Shining_KoW210I just wasn't sure what it did.21:34
AdityaRajNot sure if my message got through earlier.. guess i was blocked.. here is the paste url: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6160498/21:35
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, u still there?21:36
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Yep. Trying to read your pastebin.21:36
AdityaRajthanks21:36
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Is /dev/sdc your USB drive?21:37
glycanservice lightdm start works, but doesn't let me log in21:38
glycanI soon as I log in successfully, it switches back to text then back to an non-logged-in graphical login screen21:38
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LeftCheekSneakIs there a doctor in the house? :-)21:40
Phantombrainhello21:40
Dr_WillisNope.21:40
Dr_Willis;)21:40
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Phantombrain;)21:41
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Hello?21:41
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glycanchown glycan:glycan .Xauthority fixed it21:44
LeftCheekSneakAnyone know if you can you run Ubuntu 13.04 on a Commadore 64?21:44
jhutchinsglycan: Good catch!21:45
glycancan you explain why?21:45
LeftCheekSneakI want to make it my pentest box.21:45
SonikkuAmericaLeftCheekSneak: I wish you much luck... Lubuntu 13.10 maybe, but don't count on it.21:47
glycanthat was to jhutchins21:47
SonikkuAmericaLeftCheekSneak: Unless you want Ubuntu Server for a CLI21:47
glycanI'm running Lubuntu on a box with <1GB RAM21:47
LeftCheekSneakWhat you use that box for glycan?21:49
glycancoding, web21:49
LeftCheekSneakCool21:49
gordonjcpI tried Lubuntu but it was quite buggy21:50
gordonjcpI'm using normal Ubuntu on a box with 1GB of RAM21:50
glycanreally? I haven't seen anything at all so far21:50
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glycanscreen, links, irssi, finch, asciiview, vi and I'm mostly OK.21:50
glycanwhat do you use?21:50
glycanthe graphical interface seems meh, though21:51
gordonjcpglycan: lxde crashes all the time when I run firefox21:51
glycan...firefox?21:51
Dr_Williscant say ive ever seen lxde crash on me21:51
SonikkuAmericaglycan: That's what Lubuntu is _for_ , really.21:51
SonikkuAmericagordonjcp: Is that so? Innnnteresting.21:51
glycanSonikkuAmerica: what?21:51
gordonjcpglycan: yeah, I've never been able to reliably *cause* the crashes but they seem to be related to indications when a download finishes21:51
SonikkuAmericaglycan: Lubuntu is geared toward low-RAM systems.21:52
gordonjcpglycan: the firefox thing in the bar at the bottom flashes and won't stop flashing, and if you close firefox when it's doing that LXDE crashes21:52
glycanSonikkuAmerica: oh. well, yes, that's why I'm using it21:52
gordonjcpsometimes hard enough to take out X21:52
SonikkuAmericaglycan: :)21:52
gordonjcpit's also a bit greedy on memory21:52
glycangordonjcp: why are you using firefox?21:52
SonikkuAmericagordonjcp, glycan: With 13.10 comes zRAM support.21:52
gordonjcpglycan: because it's what I use21:53
gordonjcpglycan: and it's what you kind of need to check web pages in21:53
glycanoh, okay, web dev makes sense21:53
gordonjcpglycan: why, what do you use?21:53
glycanI wouldn't be using firefox at all for 1GB RAM21:53
glycanlinks21:54
glycanit's a console browser21:54
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, sorry i guess i got disconnected21:54
gordonjcpglycan: okay, so not really usable then21:54
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Don't worry, I'll pull up the case.21:54
glycanit does nearly everything I need it to do21:54
gordonjcpglycan: I know what links is, I just don't know why anyone would bother21:54
lord2800how can I find out what device speaker-test means when it says "default"?21:54
glycangordonjcp: it does everything I want21:54
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: All right. From your output from [ lsusb ], is /dev/sdc your USB drive?21:54
gordonjcpglycan: firefox works just fine in less that 1GB21:54
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, yes it is21:55
glycanreally? huh21:55
glycanwhat can't you do in links?21:55
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Open up a terminal21:55
gordonjcpglycan: I'm running a normal 12.04 on a machine with 512MB of RAM21:55
AdityaRajok21:55
Dr_Williscant say ive had any real issues with lubuntu and firefox on my 1gb netbook.21:55
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: and [ sudo parted /dev/sdc ]21:55
glycanfor me it's not so much as firefox or anything but the insurmountable lag of graphics in general21:55
gordonjcpglycan: you can't use github, you can't use youtube, you can't use facebook, twitter, it looks crap21:56
glycanyes, i can21:56
glycandedicated stuff21:56
glycanfbcmd, finc for youtube21:56
gordonjcpglycan: I left all that textmode shit behind 30 years ago21:56
glycanfinch*21:56
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica,  i am there21:56
glycanI mean for facebook. various console scripts for github21:56
BlueProtomanI'm nuking my Ubuntu installation and starting from scratch.  I'm repartitioning the space I originally gave to Ubuntu; I assume that my /home partition's mount point is /home, and my system's mount point is / (root)?21:56
glycanI assume that there's stuff for twitter and yotube sound21:56
gordonjcpBlueProtoman: yes21:57
Dr_WillisBlueProtoman:  yes. '/' is called the root of the filesystem21:57
gordonjcpglycan: yes, just use a normal browser21:57
glycannormal browser = graphics21:57
Dr_WillisBlueProtoman:  dont forget your swap partition also. ;)21:57
BlueProtomanDr_Willis: How much space would you give to the system, if I originally had 450GB allocated to 13.04?21:57
glycangraphics = can't mutlitask21:57
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: How big do you want your partition to be?21:57
gordonjcpcorrect21:57
BlueProtomanDr_Willis: Yep, 6 gigs, equal to my RAM.21:57
gordonjcpglycan: why can't graphics "multitask"?21:57
glycanbecause everything slows down to a crawl21:58
gordonjcpBlueProtoman: you can fit an install into about 8GB, but you really want more21:58
Dr_WillisBlueProtoman:  depends on your needs.  perhaps 50 for / if you want to be  sure you never run out. rest for home and swap.  for 6gb of ram. You really only need 6+gb of swap if you plan on using that suspend-to-ram stuff.21:58
gordonjcpglycan: then your system is too old, or broken21:58
Dr_Willisive filled up 30gb / befor. ;)21:58
AdityaRaji dont really care about that21:58
gordonjcpglycan: come and have some 512MB P4 machines, free for the taking.  They run normal Unity desktop just fine21:59
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, it is a 32gb drive i can use it whole21:59
AdityaRaji want to make it a bootable pendrive to install ubuntu on my laptop21:59
glycanfree?21:59
glycano.021:59
gordonjcpglycan: oh okay21:59
gordonjcpglycan: haul away four and I'll pay your petrol21:59
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: To span the whole USB stick, type in >>> mkpartfs primary fat32 0 3276821:59
glycanis this like a free-as-in-liberty kind of thing?21:59
Dr_Willisbut he lives on the south pole. ;)22:00
gordonjcpglycan: this is free-as-in-get-the-damn-things-out-of-my-workshop thing22:00
glycanoh22:00
gordonjcpglycan: they are not, however inexpensive-as-in-won't-guzzle-electricity22:00
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, i get Error: The location 32768 is outside of the device /dev/sdc.22:00
glycanheh. In all honesty, I've grown to prefer this to what lubuntu looks like22:00
AdityaRajthere is already a partition there22:01
AdityaRajmaybe we need to delete that first?22:01
glycanand I can always just turn on graphics to watch moveis or whatever22:01
glycanmovies*22:01
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Oh! No need to delete it...22:01
gordonjcpglycan: here's a funny one22:01
glycangordonjcp: pardon?22:01
gordonjcpglycan: open two terminals, and then open the settings panel in LXDE22:01
gordonjcpglycan: change the window manager theme in LXDE22:01
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Simply change the filesystem type with >>> mkfs 1 fat3222:02
gordonjcpglycan: change it a few times, in fact22:02
gordonjcpglycan: what has happened to the terminals?22:02
glycanis this supposed to be a lubuntu-is-buggy thing?22:02
BlueProtomanDr_Willis: Is it a problem if the swap size is *just under* 6GB (my RAM)?22:02
gordonjcpglycan: it's a bug that's been there for three years22:02
LeftCheekSneakI never heard of lunbuntu, going to have to look into it.22:03
SonikkuAmericaLeftCheekSneak: www.lubuntu.net22:03
AdityaRaji got invalid token 122:03
irssi-mikegordonjcp: just gonna say about firefox, i'm on 1gb ram, give midori a try22:03
LeftCheekSneakThank you SonikkuAmerica22:03
gordonjcpirssi-mike: midori doesn't really work well22:04
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: type >>> quit <<< then reinvoke it with [ sudo parted /dev/sdc1 ] and see what happens.22:04
LeftCheekSneakSoni, from what I just read, it sounds like it would be a perfert port for a raspberrypi.22:05
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, i got invalid token 122:05
Dr_WillisBlueProtoman:  only if you want to use that suspend to ram stuff. *i never use that feature*  so i can get by with veyr lkittle swap on my mahcines22:05
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Did you exit parted?22:05
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: And reinvoke it for /dev/sdc122:06
SonikkuAmerica?22:06
BlueProtomanDr_Willis: I do plan on using it, but I want to be sure that being a few megabytes shy doesn't botch it all up, as getting the exact amounts right is a pain.22:06
Dr_WillisBlueProtoman:  if you plan on using it - you want to  use ram+a little bit more  i imagine22:06
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica,  no i did not i am still on that console only22:06
Dr_Willissince if may totally fail if its less then ram size22:06
jmgkhmm22:06
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Go ahead and quit parted (type "quit") and reinvoke parted for /dev/sdc1 : [ sudo parted /dev/sdc1 ]22:07
BlueProtomanDr_Willis: What's "a little bit more", half a gig?  A quarter?22:07
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Dr_Willis256 mb to 512 id say22:07
BlueProtoman512 it is.22:08
Dr_WillisI dont even think i have swap on this 8gb machine.22:08
Guest53284So when i want to scroll on a page i just push my cursor to the right side of the screen and click and drag, only problem is if you're really on the edge you can't select the scroll bar, is there any way to fix?22:08
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, Error: Could not stat device /dev/sdc1 - No such file or directory.22:08
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: OK, then we're doing it right... [ sudo parted -l ] please.22:09
BlueProtomanDr_Willis: Does Linux run faster if I order the /home, system, and swap partitions in a certain way?22:09
Dr_WillisBlueProtoman:  i doubt if it will matter in any measureable way.  Having them on differnt hard drives can help ;)  but i doubt if it will be very noticeable for most desktop-ussage-cases22:10
BlueProtomanDr_Willis: What would you say is not in "most", out of curiosity?22:10
Dr_WillisBlueProtoman:  years ago having swap across differnt hard drives was a common trick. but these days - people use swap less and less22:10
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6160601/22:11
Dr_WillisBlueProtoman:  you doing anything weird with the system? or just daily common tasks.. if you want the best speed boost.  get a SSD drive. ;)22:11
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: There isn't even a partition on /dev/sdc .22:11
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: We need to make one. Type >>> mkpartfs primary fat32 0 3276722:12
BlueProtomanDr_Willis: Coding games doesn't count as "weird", so I supposed not.  Just trying to be sure, as I want to get this right now rather than later.22:12
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: NOTE THE DIFFERENCE!22:12
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, still got the same error: Error: The location 32767 is outside of the device /dev/sdc.22:13
BlueProtomanDr_Willis: One more thing.  When I removed the old Ubuntu partition in the partitioner, an NTFS partition on my drive (which I gave to Windows, but not for system files) took on the Ubuntu label in the "System" column.  Is that something I should be concerned about?22:13
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: You said before you had repo issues trying to install GParted.22:14
AdityaRajyes22:15
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Mind a pastebin of [ sudo apt-get update ]22:15
SonikkuAmerica?22:15
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, su22:15
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, sure22:15
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: While you do that, I am going to head to a cafe. I'll be back in a moment.22:16
kemmishey22:20
jmgkhello22:21
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6160623/22:24
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Thank you for waiting.22:24
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, where else could i go..22:24
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Good point. Well, I have some good news and some bad news.22:24
Heeeeelphello22:26
AdityaRajok22:26
Heeeeelpcan someone assist me in something22:26
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Do you want to bat first or bowl first? (Good news or bad news?)22:26
Heeeeelpyes22:27
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, bad news first please22:27
gordonjcp!help | Heeeeelp22:27
ubottuHeeeeelp: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:27
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: The bad news is, since Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty) is dead, its repos are no longer active.22:27
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Therefore, you have an impossible situation in terms of fetching stuff from the server.22:28
AdityaRajok22:28
AdityaRajand what is the good news?22:28
daftykinsi think you can get to old repos22:28
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Are you using Ubuntu proper (with Unity)?22:28
daftykinsAdityaRaj: you get to upgrade? 8D22:28
BlueProtomanDr_Willis?22:28
peyamhi22:29
Heeeeelptrying to install ubuntu and coming into a serious issue. I get past the partition screen and it tells me that I cant do anything until I remove the cddrive22:29
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, i am not sure i know how to answer that22:29
peyamI need a lightweight video recorder. Does anybody know?22:29
ikoniaHeeeeelp: i'm sure it doesn't say that22:29
ikoniaHeeeeelp: why don't you take a screen shot22:29
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: The thing with the top bar and the icons on the left side of the screen.22:29
AdityaRajdaftykins, i do not update.. i installed it once and then i ignore the updates22:29
Dr_WillisBlueProtoman:  sorry. i got to head to work. be back in about an hr or so.22:29
Heeeeelpi cant take a screenshot22:30
AdityaRaji guess it used to be there but i closed that22:30
daftykinsAdityaRaj: to a newer version i mean... also i said upgrade not update22:30
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: I'll tell ya right now, what you said to daftykins - bad idea.22:30
Dr_Willispeyam:  to record from what :) I use cheese to record from my webcam/video capture device.. good luck.22:30
ikoniaHeeeeelp: why not ?22:30
peyamfor my camera22:30
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, well i live in the fear of breaking things after update22:30
Heeeeelptrying to install ubuntu and coming into a serious issue. I get past the partition screen and it tells me that I cant do anything until I remove the cddrive22:31
daftykinsAdityaRaj: i take it you don't do anything online that would make you unsafe with that outdated system?22:31
Heeeeelpsorry about repost22:31
ikoniaHeeeeelp: yes, I told you, it's doubtful it's saying that, please take a screen shot or explain why you can't22:31
Heeeeelpi copied and pasted the same thing hold on22:31
peyamHeeeeelp: do you follow the installation steps as explained on the website?22:31
peyamHeeeeelp: how do you install ubuntu? CD?Usb?22:32
HeeeeelpCD22:32
Heeeeelpi followed exactly22:32
AdityaRajdaftykins, i do a lot of things online.. infact i am 24x7 online22:32
Heeeeelpbut they leave out the problem parts :P22:32
AdityaRajdaftykins,  no you are scaring me22:33
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: I asked if you used Ubuntu mainly because I want to point you to the right image.22:33
daftykinsAdityaRaj: this is really not a wise move, if you don't mind me saying so22:33
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Heeeeelphttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1237721 this is my issue22:33
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, mainly ?22:33
Heeeeelphis problem is simular to mine22:33
BlueProtomanWhich partition should I install the device bootloader on when installing Ubuntu?22:34
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Or did you want GNOME, KDE, XFCE, LXDE...?22:34
daftykinsBlueProtoman: /dev/sda if there's one disk and only ubuntu, no other OS22:34
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, i am so sorry but i dont even know the difference22:34
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: My point being, you need to release upgrade.22:34
AdityaRajok22:34
peyamHeeeeelp: choose ext3 as explained in the link you just posted22:34
ikoniaHeeeeelp: and you're booting from a cdrom - not a usb ?22:35
BlueProtomandaftykins: I dual-boot Ubuntu and Windows 7.  I have Ubuntu now, but I'm reinstalling it.22:35
Heeeeelpfor all of them22:35
Heeeeelpext 4 isnt better?22:35
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Head for www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop and pick either Ubuntu 12.04 LTS or Ubuntu 13.04 (I'd recommend the former for you).22:35
daftykinsBlueProtoman: so what's on the disk right now?22:35
ikoniaext4 is better, yes22:35
peyamHeeeeelp: never used ext3 but it might help22:35
ikonia(for your needs)22:35
Heeeeelpthey why can i not use ext4 then i would rather22:36
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, but i wont be able to use it !!22:36
ikoniathe file system on your machine is not really important, it seems to suggest you're trying to partition the cdrom22:36
AdityaRajas i would again need to make a bootable drive and i cant22:36
ikoniaHeeeeelp: can you please take a screen shot of the partition screen22:36
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: I don't understand... what do you mean you won't be able to use it?22:36
AdityaRaji already have image for 12.0422:36
BlueProtomandaftykins: A Windows 7 partition (ntfs), an NTFS partition I made for Windows 7 (that contains no system files), and at present an Ubuntu partition with  swap, plus some miscellaneous partitions for system restore, bootup, etc.22:36
HeeeeelpI have now way of doing that22:36
Heeeeelpit freezes at that point22:36
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: Press the Windows logo key and type in "startup disk creator"22:36
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, i cant burn a disc , dont have a dvd writter.. so i need to make a bootable pen drive22:37
ikoniaHeeeeelp: don't actually press the click that makes the message appear, just get a screen shot of the partitioner layout pleaes22:37
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: That's what Startup Disk Creator does.22:37
Heeeeelpi can take a picture with my phone22:37
Heeeeelpthats about it22:37
ikoniaHeeeeelp: if you press print screen it should take a screen shot22:38
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, i dont have a cd drive on my system22:38
Heeeeelpand then what...the computer doesnt have any folders or anything to do that22:38
HeeeeelpI do not have any operating system22:38
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: The Startup Disk Creator is for creating bootable USB pendrives with Linux OSes.22:39
ikoniaHeeeeelp: the livecd your installing from is the operating system22:39
AdityaRajcan you give me a link to the startup disk creator22:39
daftykinsBlueProtoman: does it have the ~100MB boot partition in front of C: for win7?22:39
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, i have been using ubootnetin to no resolve22:39
BlueProtomandaftykins: Yes.22:39
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: In a terminal, [ usb-creator-gtk & ]22:39
daftykinsBlueProtoman: i'd have thought on that would work22:40
BlueProtomandaftykins: I don't have any issues at present with Ubuntu and Windows 7.  I'm just trying to keep it that way by making sure.22:40
BlueProtomandaftykins: So installing to /dev/sda; yes or no?22:40
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica,  would 11.04 lts iso work22:40
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ikonia!away > AndresSM_away22:41
ubottuAndresSM_away, please see my private message22:41
daftykinsBlueProtoman: it's not like it can't be undone either way :)22:41
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: 11.04 (a) is no longer supported and (b) wasn't an LTS.22:41
AdityaRajsorry, you must think i am fool22:41
SonikkuAmerica!11.0422:41
ubottuUbuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) was the fourteenth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended on October 28, 2012. See !upgrade, !lts and !eol for more details.22:41
BlueProtomandaftykins: But my question.  Which partition should I install the bootloader on?22:41
AdityaRajso which version do you recommend me to download?22:41
daftykinsi thought i'd answered that22:41
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: 12.04 LTS.22:42
BlueProtomandaftykins: You did?22:42
AdityaRajok going to download that now and install it fresh on my machine.. see you after that22:42
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: All right...22:42
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, for how long are you around?22:42
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: All night, hopefully...22:43
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, do you work with ubuntu support?22:43
BlueProtomandaftykins: So, /dev/sda then?22:44
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: That's what this channel is for. Type !volunteer in your chat window.22:44
AdityaRaj!volunteer22:44
daftykinsBlueProtoman: ja22:45
BlueProtomandaftykins: Got it.  Thank you so much.22:45
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about volunteer22:45
SonikkuAmericaErr... hmm...22:45
SonikkuAmerica!volunteers22:45
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines22:45
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: And we come from all walks of life... from high-school to retirement.22:46
AdityaRajwell i cant appreciate all the help u r doing here.. good work SonikkuAmerica keep it up22:46
SonikkuAmerica?!22:46
daftykinslol22:46
daftykinsthat's like the time my German housemates visited one of my friends and said "thank you for the hostility"22:47
mattwj2002hi guys22:47
daftykinsSonikkuAmerica: it's ok, *I* appreciate you :(22:47
daftykinsmattwj2002: hi what's up?22:47
SonikkuAmericadaftykins: :>22:47
mattwj2002my system was off when I got home22:47
daftykinssorry i tripped over the mains22:48
mattwj2002is there a way to tell why it was off?22:48
mattwj2002haha daftykins22:48
mattwj2002is there a way to tell if it was a graceful shutdown or not?22:48
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, i am usually always confused which iso to pick 32 or 64, is there a way to fnd out which one will work for me?22:48
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: pastebin [ uname -a ]22:49
jribmattwj2002: is your alarm clock blinking?22:50
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6160703/22:50
mattwj2002yes jrib but it has been blinking for over a month22:50
mattwj2002:P22:50
SonikkuAmericaAdityaRaj: You'll need a 32-bit image (the 64-bit one won't work on your machine.)22:50
SonikkuAmericajrib: Is your refrigerator running?22:51
* mattwj2002 runs and catches it22:51
jribSonikkuAmerica: why yes it is, why do you ask!?22:51
mattwj2002I don't think it was a power outage22:51
* daftykins watches the channel donning their Sherlock Holmes deerstalker hats22:51
mattwj2002my tv didn't give me a time error22:51
SonikkuAmericaYou're lucky mattwj2002 caught it for you jrib22:51
mattwj2002:P22:51
jribmy grilled cheese sandwich thanks you, mattwj200222:52
AdityaRajSonikkuAmerica,  thanks22:52
jribmattwj2002: try checking /var/log/syslog and dmesg22:52
HeeeeelpIt says /dev/sda1     ext4    /   format yes    5119mb     unknown22:52
lonewulf85!offtopic22:53
HeeeeelpIt says /dev/sda1     ext4    /   format yes    5119mb     unknown22:53
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:53
Heeeeelpi hate this copy paste thing22:53
Heeeeelpim not on the coputer to take a screenshot22:53
lonewulf85If I wanted to display a list in human readable long format of all the files that started with the character H in the computers root directory what would be the command I need to issue to complete this action?22:54
ikonialonewulf85: it's for ubuntu related support as you said22:54
mattwj2002thanks jrib22:54
mattwj2002jrib I have a grill cheese if you want one22:54
mattwj2002:)22:54
ikonialonewulf85: that is shell scripting22:54
ikonialonewulf85: or bash22:54
lonewulf85!bash22:54
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal22:54
wyldelonewulf85: I bet they'd have a good idea over in #bash22:55
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peyamHi23:00
peyamChese freez when I want to capture a cideo from my webcam23:01
Vivekanandahello everyone back but with a problems23:01
agliodbsthere appears to be no way to delete wireless networks from my list without connecting to that network first23:04
VivekanandaI initially installed lubuntu and then the ubuntu-desktop. I have a primary ntfs , an extended with ubuntu in it and a third ntfs partition. When trying to change a .sh script to executable or double clicking on it  it does not run. also chmod does not work. I have tried to do this -- http://askubuntu.com/questions/11840/how-to-chmod-on-an-ntfs-or-fat32-partition   ( I tried the 8 hits options) but as a result I got two mount p23:05
Vivekanandaoints of the same name but still no chmod options23:05
Vivekanandawhat should I do now ?23:05
agliodbsas in there's no way to edit the list of networks23:05
miaqinasgood morning23:05
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Vivekanandahello23:07
CoderGirl42HI is there anyone that can help me determine a good backup solution?23:08
CoderGirl42I'd like to be able to make an image of my system with all of the installed programms and burn that to a disk, anyone have any suggestions?23:09
daftykins!backup | CoderGirl4223:10
ubottuCoderGirl42: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning23:10
Vivekanandahello anyone can gimme ny clue to my problem23:14
VivekanandaI initially installed lubuntu and then the ubuntu-desktop. I have a primary ntfs , an extended with ubuntu in it and a third ntfs partition. When trying to change a .sh script to executable or double clicking on it  it does not run. also chmod does not work. I have tried to do this -- http://askubuntu.com/questions/11840/how-to-chmod-on-an-ntfs-or-fat32-partition   ( I tried the 8 hits options) but as a result I got two mount p23:14
Vivekanandaoints of the same name but still no chmod options23:14
dr_willisyou trying to chmid a file on a ntfs partition?23:15
nicu_yo23:17
Vivekanandadr_willis: hello :)23:17
Vivekanandaand yes I am trying to make a script executable which is at present on a ntfs partitions23:17
Vivekanandapartition*23:17
dr_willisso you will basically  mount the ntfs  - with the options that make EVErY file on the ntfs executable.23:18
dr_willisthats the fmask=0000 option i   think.23:18
dr_willisi seem to recall the ntfs-3g homepage/faq/guides having some dettails on this. normally i dont ever want the files on my ntfs to be edecutable23:19
dr_willisof course even if they are not  executable you could still do a   'bash ./whatver.sh'23:19
Vivekanandadr_willis: if you look above I tried to do that according to the askubuntu link I posted. but after trying that and rebooting what I have is just one folder under /media called yojimbo and it has been mounted but23:19
VivekanandaI see another folder named 'Yojimbo' also. on a double click it says --- Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.he volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which23:20
Vivekanandacould be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.23:20
dr_willisVivekananda:  i would unmount it . then give us the mount command or fstab line you are using.23:21
dr_willissounds like the fstab entry and the nautilus auto mounting stuff are fighting. id stick to the shell for now to verify it is mounting how you want23:21
Vivekanandaokay let me do it. But just so you know there is just one of the 'yojimbos' mounted and the other is not23:22
dr_willisid use a differnt name for the mountpoint also.  like /mnt/MyDrive23:22
dr_willisthe automounting system gets the mountpoint name from the disks label.23:22
Vivekanandahttps://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/672200423:23
Vivekanandadr_willis: in that case I will delete the label as one is enough isnt it ?23:23
dr_willisyou could have just pasted the single line for the ntfs-3g device. ;)23:24
dr_willisive never seen the 'permissions' option used in fstab like that.. may be a new ntfs-3g option ive never heard of.23:24
dr_willisOR it could be  incorrect option.23:24
Vivekanandahere is what you see on my desktop now ( after unmounting) http://imagebin.org/27203023:25
dr_willisid change the  fstab to be like     mounting to /media/TestDrive    and  try the fmask=0000 option23:25
Vivekanandadr_willis: could you gimme the full command ?23:26
Vivekanandaalso should I delete the label for now ?23:26
dr_williswhat 'label' are you refering to?23:26
dr_willisthe Label is  the name on the filesystem. You dont just delete it.23:26
miaqinashi dr willis..hw about u now?23:26
dr_willispaste that ntfs-3g fstab entry here for others to see.. they may notice any other issues with it. Im on my phone so its hard ro me to jump back and forth btween browsers and the irc23:27
VivekanandaI mean that while using the gparted I had put a 'label' on the ntfs drive and it was 'Yojimbo'. After that I included that fstab line I showed you with the exact same string as mountpoint ie 'Yojimbo'. But now I get two 'Yojimbo' as you see in the screenshot23:28
Vivekanandaokay hold on23:28
VivekanandaUUID=41B9013F54905221 /media/Yojimbo ntfs-3g auto,users,permissions 0 023:28
Vivekanandabut why am I having this issue now23:29
Vivekanandadid not have it before23:29
Vivekanandashould I format the partiiton to ext3 or 4 ?23:29
Vivekanandathis is killing valuable time for me23:29
dr_willisive never seen the 'permissions' option EVER mentioned in the ntfs-3g docs.23:30
dr_williswhere did you read about that option?23:30
dr_willistypical ntfs-3g entry for me would be ...23:30
dr_willissudo mount -t ntfs -o fmask=0022,dmask=0000,uid=1000,gid=1000 DRIVE /media/vista23:31
dr_willisin fstab terms23:31
dr_willis  /dev/sda1  /media/thedrive  ntfs-3g   uid=1000,fmask=0022,dmask=0000  0 023:31
dr_willisi tink.23:31
Vivekanandadr_willis I followed this ---http://askubuntu.com/questions/11840/how-to-chmod-on-an-ntfs-or-fat32-partition23:32
VivekanandaI went to the choice with 8 hits23:32
Vivekanandaokay23:32
Vivekanandalet me try that23:32
dr_willisi think the CORE of the issue is  that example is using  the word 'permissions' to mean 'You set the permission options how you want'   not the literal word 'permissions23:33
dr_willisbecause EVERY other example shows using the umask,fmask, and dmask options23:33
dr_willisunless anyone else has ever seen ntfs-3g use a 'permissions' option?23:34
dr_willisi gott a meeting to go to.. bck in about 20 min23:34
Vivekanandaokay but23:35
Vivekanandawhat do I do about the second Yojimbo?23:35
Vivekanandahow do I remove that ?23:35
ukd1How good is ubuntu on a macbook pro retina? Do external thunderbolt displays work?23:38
ikoniaukd1: thunderbolt = nope, retina = not great23:38
ukd1*by good I mean, supported; wifi, drivers, sleep etc.23:38
ukd1ok23:38
ukd1ikonia, any idea what works and doesn't?23:39
daftykinslast i read, any thunderbolt usage causes mass CPU load that renders the OS unusable23:39
ikoniaukd1: there is a page on the wiki, but in general thunderbolt displays, no, I'm currently trying to get something out of a thinkpad with thunderbolt display,23:39
ikoniadaftykins: I'm not seeing that at all, I'm seeing a real lack of actual supported device identification23:40
ukd1ikonia, ok! It's a shame as I'd rather be running ubuntu, but I have 2x thunderbolt so would be a waste.23:40
ukd1you having any luck with the thinkpad?23:40
MoleManCould someone help me work out why my system doesn't resume from hibernate? I have set the resume= tag in Grub,might it be related to the swap being encrypted? the ouput from blikd for the swap is "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1: (blahblah)", using 13.04, with partitions automatically setup by Ubuntu during install23:40
loahow i can downgrade chrome?23:40
ikoniaukd1: funny, thats why I've been playing with it too.23:40
MoleManikonia: will recreating just the partition work? or would it be easier to just reinstall completely considering I only installed the other day and don't have much set up23:40
ikoniaukd1: no, thunderbolt in general, not mac/other platform seems to be th eproblem23:40
ukd1what's needed for it to work?23:41
ukd1ok23:41
ikoniaMoleMan: I'd do a clean unencypted setup, then move forward23:41
ikoniaukd1: at the moment, I don't think it's possible/supported from my research,23:41
ikoniaukd1: I've only been playing with it for a few days though, so I've not done/tried everything yet23:41
MoleManso if I choose to encrypt my home dir, does that trigger the swap to be encrypted as well? I chose to encrypt my home dir but never saw an option for the SWAP23:42
ikoniaukd1: research suggests it's a total none working situation23:42
ikoniaMoleMan: I would do totally unencypted to validate23:42
ikoniaMoleMan: then move forward from there23:42
MoleManokay23:42
daftykinsikonia: oh well if you're not seeing it... ;)23:43
ikoniadaftykins: I'm not seeing much else though to be honest23:44
daftykinsikonia: i think this was with a thunderbolt display come to think of it, may've been old too23:46
Heeeeelpthe installer needs to commit changes to partition tables,23:46
ttyS1how can I speed up copying a file from one internal SATA disc to another internal SATA disc. Is currently copying at 23MB/s using Nautilus. This seems painfully slow.23:47
pozoriare ther any better diagram editors than Dia ?23:47
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Heeeeelpthe installer needs to commit changes to partition tables, but cannot do so because partitions on the following could not be unmounted      /cdrom23:49
Heeeeelpwhat does this mean23:49
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ikoniaHeeeeelp: it means it's trying to unmount /cdrom - which can't happen as your live OS is running from the cdrom23:50
Heeeeelpi still run into issues without the live23:51
_____all terminal gives me is '?'23:54
ikonia_____: please ask a proper question if you want help23:54
bwaynepozori: I like LucidChat (web) and yEd.23:54
_____when I type something in terminal all I get back from it is '?'23:54
_____what do I do so it actually gives me something useful23:55
ikonia_____: that suggests your not in a shell23:55
bwaynesounds like ed23:55
_____how do I go into a shell23:55
ikonia_____: how are you opening a terminal ?23:55
_____im clicking it from the start menu23:55
ikoniawhat does the prompt look like23:55
Vivekanandamy gnome ubuntu 12.04 on high resolution is very small23:56
_____owner@owner23:56
VivekanandaI want to make things bigger23:56
_____thats all23:56
Vivekanandahow do I do that ?23:56
ikoniawhat happens if you type "id" and hit enter23:56
_____then I get GUI UID etc23:57
bwayneVivekananda: decreasing the resolution might work.23:57
ikonia_____: ok, so then you're in a valid shell23:57
ikonia_____: what are you typing that gives you "?"23:57
Heeeeelpinonia-- same issue when im regular installing as the live installing23:57
Vivekanandabwayne: but isnt that kind of the wrong way to goo23:57
Vivekanandahigher resolution is good23:57
linuxuz3rhi so they going to replace xorg with wayland23:57
_____clearm cls, clr, sudo apt-get purge23:57
Vivekanandacan I not increase just the font of everything somehow23:58
ikonia_____: they are not valid commands23:58
_____im trying to remove samba323:58
_____and its doing my HEAD in23:58
ikonia_____: what happens if you type "uname -a"23:58
_____linux owner 3.8.0 generic blah blah23:58
ikonia_____: ok, so the enviornment is also valid23:58
_____ok23:59
bwayneVivekananda: perhaps "Universal access" > Change font size.23:59
Heeeeelpiknoia how would i solve the issue above23:59
ikonia_____: can you pastebin the output of "uname -a" and "id" so I can see the state of your system/shell23:59
_____not easily no23:59
ikoniawhy not?23:59
_____sorry23:59

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