[00:00] <ruconse> Hi, has anyone used cgroups to limit I/O bandwidth?
[00:00] <SonikkuAmerica> (at least)
[00:00] <hanky> SonikkuAmerica, Ive been spending half a day now reading trying to understand. Just didnt think I'd get this 'BIG' problem so early when I switched to ubuntu.
[00:00] <SonikkuAmerica> hanky: How does 12.04 LTS work for you?
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> SonikkuAmerica:  i think that was for 14.x   testing out 13.10 on my desktop and its not using mir by default . but that could be because its a nvidia system
[00:02] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/mir-display-server-to-ship-default-in-ubuntu-13-10
[00:02] <OerHeks> Xmir, not mir
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> SonikkuAmerica:  well this netbook is using 13.10 right now.  ;) and as far as i can tell. its not using  mir
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> this is an intel chipset netbook
[00:02] <hanky> It's working well except my graphics card wasn't supported. Got the dual monitors with extended wallpaper working after some time.
[00:03] <hanky> Been wanting to setup a FTP- and web-server as well in the future. But now I'm getting second toughts, if i can't get real video drivers.
[00:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: :) Joey Sneddon's comment about "Goodbye, xorg.conf": "I'm going to print mine out and keep it in a photo frame just for old times sake. Look on it now and again with a glint of nostalgia in my eye. We got so close during all those times I had to wrestle with it to make, pun intended, 'x' work." lol
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> hanky:  best to not use ftp. stick to ssh
[00:04] <hanky> Yeah of course. I'll keep that in mind.
[00:04] <hanky> thanks
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> hanky:  video and wifi drivers have always been a top 10 problem. even on windows pcs ;)
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> i find that slightly older (last years new stuff) tends to be the best value/prefornabce/lease problemns on linux machines
[00:05] <hanky> Dr_Willis, I remember having problems with my wifi-drivers last time i tried ubuntu. so I believe you.
[00:05] <hanky> Yeah I really would like to install an older version with xorg 1.12 that works with the legacy-drivers from AMD.
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> i have bought several wifi dongles the last year that work in linux and even my linux based Media-Home-theate-devices  with NO hassles.. but in windows. they are a pain.
[00:06] <hanky> I try to use WIFI as rarely as possible. Seems like a (still) broken technology. ;)
[00:07] <Winsler> hey
[00:08] <hanky> But what I don't understand is that people on the forums whine that they got the problem when using 12.10 (thus, the upgrade to xorg 1.13 was included). Im using 12.4, and still have xorg 1.13. Strange.
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> rarely have issues with wifi any more.  ive found its handy to have a low end-cheap usb wifi dongle that works out of th ebox.. to put on problem laptops - so you can then use wifi to get the drivers for the 'built in/problematic' wifi devices in the laptop
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> to be honest with ya.  i dont even Look at ati brand video cards any more. I just say no to them.  ;)
[00:09] <hanky> Is NVIDIA much better?
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> i have very few if any issues with my 3+ nvidia boxs
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> im down to a single ati desktop machine. and it uses the open soruced drivers
[00:10] <Winsler> I use NVIDIA and have never had problems
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> but my nvidia machines are all almost 2+ yrs old now
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> even my high-end-gaming desktop is 2 yrs old.
[00:11] <hanky> Ok, with this one was NVIDIA, not AMD. >_<
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> in most cases withnvidia - i just boot. install the nvidia-current package. reboot. run nvidia-settings and all is good.
[00:12] <hanky> Like in windows, haha its ironic.
[00:12] <iceroot> hanky: the newest ati drivers are better then the nvidia ones because the open source driver was improved very much but is only a few days old, normally ati and nvidia are bad, because they dont provide usefull free software
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> unless its one of those dual-gpu Optimis stuff
[00:13] <hanky> My friends told me it's that way with ubuntu and thats why i installed. And im here with the biggest issue out there. :D
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> if its just  'work machine'  most of the intel chipsets can do a fine job these days
[00:13] <hanky> iceroot, they seem nice. To bad I had a card in the series 4.
[00:13] <hanky> The series 5 were supported. :-)
[00:13] <iceroot> and intel has the advantage, the driver is free and open source software
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> intel had a few issues here and there over the last few years. i think they have gotten things better in the last year.
[00:14] <hanky> I have to use the legacy-driver-package. And its not compatible with xorg 1.13.
[00:14] <iceroot> it will be really funny with ubuntu 13.10, non free drivers and MIR
[00:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Why is a display server named after a Russian space station anyway?
[00:14] <iceroot> hanky: and the driver package and xorg are both in the ubuntu repos?
[00:15] <hanky> iceroot, you will have to treat me as a newbie because I am.
[00:16] <iceroot> hanky: which ubuntu version? and where does the driver come from?
[00:17] <hanky> The driver comes from AMD, it's the legacy-driver packade, it supports later cards for what I know. I just installed the stabile LTS 10.4 version of ubuntu.
[00:17] <SonikkuAmerica> hanky: Do a release upgrade immediately.
[00:17] <iceroot> SonikkuAmerica: why?
[00:18] <hanky> And that came with xorg 1.13, and the legacy package wasn't made to with with the upgrade from xorg 1.12 --> 1.13.
[00:18] <SonikkuAmerica> iceroot: 10.04 (desktop) is dead.
[00:18] <hanky> SonikkuAmerica, what do you mean?
[00:18] <iceroot> 10.04 has also 5 years support for desktop?
[00:18] <kostkon> hanky, where did you get that info from
[00:18] <iceroot> or was it only 12.04?
[00:18] <SonikkuAmerica> iceroot: Nope.
[00:18] <SonikkuAmerica> iceroot: That schedule started with 12.04
[00:18] <hanky> I downloaded it from ubuntus homepage.
[00:18] <SonikkuAmerica> !support
[00:18] <SonikkuAmerica> !LTS
[00:19] <iceroot> SonikkuAmerica: thx
[00:19] <SonikkuAmerica> !release-upgrade | hanky
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> !versionb
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> !version
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> double check your version with lsb_release -a . verify what version it truely is
[00:19] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: What's the !command that talks about release upgrading? (Do you know?)
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> if he just did a clean install of 10.04 - I would suggest doing a  new install of a newer reelase
[00:20] <hanky> Did that earlier, here it is: Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[00:20] <hanky> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[00:20] <hanky> Release:	12.04
[00:20] <vadi> How can I reset appmenu? It is failing to show menus and is hampering productivity.
[00:21] <hanky> But wait a minute, will that solve my problem with my video card, to upgrade to a newer version?
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> hanky:  so you got 12.04.3   ;) thats the latest lts. there is 13.04 that has newer 'stuff' and 13.10 due out next month
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> hanky:  i would at least test with 13.04 or 13.10 and see if they work any better
[00:22] <kostkon> Dr_Willis, 12.04.3 comes with the raring X and kernel
[00:22] <SonikkuAmerica> vadi: App menu? Can you tell us what !version and !flavor your Ubuntu is?
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> hanky:  not like its a big deal to get  a newer relase and try with a live-usb
[00:22] <hanky> Dr_Willis, Okey, I guess it's worth a shot!
[00:22] <kostkon> vadi, in which app(s)?
[00:22] <vadi> Ubuntu 13.04, the default Unity edition
[00:22] <vadi> Evince
[00:23] <kostkon> vadi, works fine here. what's exactly the problem
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> vadi:  you mean the top left 'dash' button  is not showing stuff?
[00:23] <taime1> What is the safest way to upgrade ubuntu server 12.04.3 to the latest kernel?
[00:23] <SonikkuAmerica> taime1: [ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ] should do all the work.
[00:24] <vadi> It works fine here too, except when it decides not work. Yes, the applications menu - which gets moved up - is failing to show. Here is a video: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/151482435/appmenu%20breakdown.mp4
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> taime1:  latest from kernel.org? or latest in the repos?
[00:24] <taime1> Dr_Willis: latest in repo
[00:24] <taime1> SonikkuAmerica: i was hoping that was all, just wasnt sure
[00:25] <kostkon> vadi, weird. so there's a bug report about it
[00:25] <SonikkuAmerica> vadi: Have you tried right-clicking the Evince icon in the launcher?
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> dis-upgrade should do it taime1  ;)
[00:25] <taime1> Dr_Willis: SonikkuAmerica thanks
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[00:25] <kostkon> bug 151482435
[00:25] <kostkon> :/
[00:25] <vadi> SonikkuAmerica: I hadn't. How would that be relevant?
[00:26] <vadi> I'll try that next time it happens.
[00:26] <vadi> kostkon: the bug report is what I just filed.
[00:26] <kostkon> vadi, ah ok
[00:26] <SonikkuAmerica> vadi: It may or may not show at least some common options (similar to the GNOME app menu for a GNOME app, which Evince is)
[00:27] <wissam_> Hi , how to know if usb drive is mounted in sync or async mode ?
[00:28] <kostkon> wissam_, i think by default everythin is copied asynchronously
[00:30] <wissam_> kostkon: I am using ubuntu 13.04 and when copying large data to usb drive makes my laptop freeze completely and i have to hardly restart it so i solved this problem by mounting usb devices in async mode using this command "mount -o remount,async /dev/sdb1"
[00:31] <kostkon> wissam_, hmm ok
[00:31] <wissam_> so by default sync mode is enabled right?
[00:32] <wissam_> but how to know if a usb drive is mounted in sync or async mode?
[00:33] <taime1> Would it be safe to upgrade from 3.2.0-53-generic to linux-generic-lts-raring on my 12.04.3 64bit server?
[00:34] <SonikkuAmerica> taime1: It should be.
[00:34] <taime1> great
[01:00] <fellayaboy> anyone know how to configure yafaray for blender....i did sudo apt-get install yafaray and it didnt show up in blender
[01:10] <fellayaboy> how can i find where a package installed its stuff
[01:11] <ObrienDave> fellayaboy... READ http://www.yafaray.org/download
[01:12] <Faryshta> How do I add ubuntu repos to debian?
[01:12] <vicsar> .
[01:13] <Ben64> Faryshta: thats asking for trouble and beyond the scope of this channel
[01:14] <liz_> ubuntu thinks that my external usb hard drive is a cdrom drive.  It says its write protected.  /dev/sr1 is what the label is.  why is this?
[01:14] <vicsar> Faryshta -  Try this: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/45879/how-to-add-repository-from-shell-in-debian
[01:15] <vicsar> http://linuxappfinder.com/addrepo
[01:15] <vicsar> -I haven't read it, and yes. This is out of the scope of the channel
[01:15] <vicsar> :-)
[01:15] <vicsar> Grammar I fail
[01:15] <vicsar> :-)
[01:15] <Faryshta> vicsar, thanks
[01:15] <ObrienDave> vicsar... you're going to make the "off topic" Gods angry LOL
[01:16] <vicsar> Yep, am that sort of guy
[01:16] <Faryshta> vicsar, and I appreciate your anarchism
[01:16] <vicsar> Dinner!
[01:16] <vicsar> LOL
[01:17] <chaotic_good> no lvm2?
[01:17] <chaotic_good> new 12.04lts install
[01:17] <chaotic_good> can ping google
[01:17] <ObrienDave> liz_... what brand os USB drive?
[01:17] <chaotic_good> but its prod environemnt
[01:17] <ObrienDave> *of
[01:17] <chaotic_good> why mightapt-get not work?
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> chaotic_good:  pastebin the error messages it gives would be a good start. 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' also
[01:18] <chaotic_good> Package lvm2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:18] <chaotic_good> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:18] <chaotic_good> is only available from another source
[01:18] <chaotic_good> E: Package 'lvm2' has no installation candidate
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> you have done a sudo apt-get update/upgrade  then tried it again?
[01:19] <chaotic_good> oow appt-get update sems to have done the trick
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> !find lvm2
[01:19] <nathris> does anybody happen to know why bluetooth-applet was removed from gnome-bluetooth in saucy?
[01:19] <ObrienDave> *rolls eyes*
[01:19] <savagecroc> ok unity has crapped itself
[01:19] <savagecroc> how do i restart it?   i tried sudo service gdm restart
[01:20] <zykotick9> Faryshta: fyi, mixing debian and ubuntu repos is a terrible idea... just sayin'
[01:21] <dman777_alter> anyone use sdlmame?
[01:21] <krux> savagecroc, sudo service lightdm restart
[01:21] <zykotick9> savagecroc: try lightdm
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> dman777_alter:  not in years.  ;)
[01:22] <zykotick9> dman777_alter: ask your real question, and find out.
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> !find sdlmame
[01:23] <Faryshta> zykotick9, ok. I just need ubuntu one then will disable the repos
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> !info sdlmame
[01:23] <dman777_alter> does sdlmame have a save state so i can save where i am in the game and return to it later?
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> dman777_alter:  it should have the same features as normal mame. I do recall mame having save states
[01:24] <dman777_alter> Dr_Willis: ah..sux. i hate starting from the beggining everytime i play
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> hit tab during a game and look at the keybindinds (i recall)
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> sux? it should have the feature
[01:24] <dman777_alter> Dr_Willis: did you you advance menu to manage sdlmame?
[01:24] <zykotick9> dman777_alter: personaly i hate "save state" saving, but i'm 90% sure it does.
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> not used advancemenu in ages
[01:24] <zykotick9> dman777_alter: advmenu rocks!
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> i only play a few mame games every so often. ;)
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> !info advmenu
[01:25] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> i just tend to use the mame default interface
[01:26] <dman777_alter> i'm new to the arcade emulation in linux. i'm going to buy a video card that will output to my tv. i like nvidia. will sdlmame play nice with it? i really like old arcade games and sdlmame is the reason why i am going to buy a new video card(lost tv connection to my old one)
[01:26] <dman777_alter> Dr_Willis: isn't the mame default interface command line only?
[01:27] <zykotick9> dman777_alter: sdlmame has a gui, but it kinda... well... let's just say i NEVER use it.
[01:27] <dman777_alter> Dr_Willis: i'm a little confused...did you mean sdlmame? or is there a regular mame for linux also?
[01:28] <zykotick9> dman777_alter: sdlmame is your best bet on gnu/linux
[01:28] <dman777_alter> zykotick9: ok, cool. thanks. i mostly play snk games.
[01:28] <zykotick9> dman777_alter: neogeo rocks!
[01:28] <dman777_alter> :)
[01:29] <dman777_alter> zykotick9: does sdl play nice with nvidia drivers?
[01:29] <zykotick9> dman777_alter: yes.
[01:29] <dman777_alter> cool
[01:30] <bill__> dman777_alter, SDL talks to X and X talks to nVidia.  Therefore SDL doesn't really care about nVidia.  It could be AMD or Intel just as easily and wouldn't bother SDL a bit.
[01:30] <dman777_alter> ok, cool.
[01:30] <dman777_alter> what is b est to use a xbox 360 on my linux pc?
[01:30] <dman777_alter> for sdl
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> dman777_alter:  xmame has a menu system these days
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> it lists the roms, or a random selection with a text/filter item
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> dman777_alter:  why are you using sdlmame? xmame should work fine unless its a really really low end box
[01:32] <dman777_alter> Dr_Willis: ok, cool. i will check that out. this is a project for me so i am planning ahead.
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> raspberrypi - has pimame => instant mame machine ;) that can output to rca video out
[01:32] <hanky> Dr_Willis, efter much searching, the work-around solution that was recommended: "Ubuntu 12.04.3 is not supported."
[01:32] <hanky> xD
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> for mame - its best to read the docs.. its a VERY old app and has a lot of history and quirks.   i was suprised it had the menu feature. been so long since i had last used it
[01:33] <dman777_alter> Dr_Willis: wow, the last development for xmame was 2006...
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> dman777_alter:  i dont get how xbox360  figures int o this  ?
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> dman777_alter:  i think theres newer versions but th enames may have been changed.
[01:34] <dman777_alter> Dr_Willis: just the controller...i want to use it on my pc with mame(linux)
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> ive not kept up with mame news. l;)
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> dman777_alter:  i got a Hotrod-SE arcade controller ;)   but most any gamepad should work
[01:35] <dman777_alter> whats a good forum to ask on? i get to many to choose from for googleing
[01:37] <fromz> I'm doing bitcoin mining on ubuntu 13.04, but I get hardware errors from my GPU (it uses openCL) a lot of people say the solution is to roll ati catalyst drivers back to 11.x series - has anyone done this and had a non-disasterous result, or know of a tutorial?
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> dman777_alter:  i imagine the mame homepage has their own forums
[01:39] <jmunsch_> have had this happen on several installs ... the only way for me to get wifi to work is to disable it before i shutdown the computer or when i go to restart. if i do no disable the wifi before i reboot i can not use wifi no matter sudo rfkill or anything with sudo iw dev ... has anyone else experienced this? what could it possibly be ... feel like it's trying to open ten doors in a row ... with all combinations of [fn]+[wifi key] e
[01:39] <jmunsch_> tc etc ... any thoughts? it's really annoying ... haha
[01:44] <InFlames> i'm having trouble with roadkill's unstoppable copier on ubuntu 13.04, can anyone help me?
[01:47] <MidnightNinja> Can someone help me with this problem:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/1130326
[01:47] <MidnightNinja> I cant log onto my universities network
[01:48] <MidnightNinja> Anyone got an idea?
[01:48] <varunendra> jmunsch_, which card and driver are you using? (output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net")
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, Your the first person I have ever seen mention this, a 3rd party app I believe, not many are probably familiar, give some details for help to the channel is all.
[01:49] <varunendra> MidnightNinja, have you received any certificate files from your university authorities?
[01:49] <MidnightNinja> Not that I am aware of--let me check
[01:49] <MidnightNinja> on 12.04, i never needed certs though
[01:49] <InFlames> wilee-nilee, the problem i am having is really with a library i believe. unstopcp: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[01:49] <zykotick9> varunendra: awesome-sauce.  thanks.  that "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net" is very cool.
[01:50] <varunendra> MidnightNinja, it is usually a .crt file that you should receive from IT support or some similar authority from your university
[01:50] <InFlames> now i've downloaded getlibs-all.deb and installed it, and tried to get the library i need, but it says it's not found
[01:50] <MidnightNinja> varundera: they only offer windows and mac certs
[01:50] <varunendra> zykotick9, I use it with "vga" too . Cheers !!
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> InFlames, I found an old UF thread on it, having not heard of it before, that was mentioned, however no real resolution I believe, you would have to check yourself.
[01:50] <jmunsch_> varunendra : Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter  ....   Qualcomm Atheros AR8152 v1.1 Fast Ethernet [1969:2060] (rev c1)
[01:51] <InFlames> can you link? (sadly i've read many things, i think gisting the output will help, so i'm doing that now)
[01:51] <varunendra> MidnightNinja, does that certificate mention windows in it?? Sorry I'm not aware of its contents.
[01:51] <zykotick9> varunendra: you might want to add v to the lspci for vga (for hybrid cards)
[01:51] <MidnightNinja> The certs explicitly state windows
[01:52] <MidnightNinja> its funny since I've used fedora and 12.04 perfectly fine before
[01:52] <InFlames> wilee-nilee, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6708805
[01:52] <varunendra> jmunsch_, please also give me the device ID. Is it [14e4:4727]?
[01:53] <jmunsch_> yes
[01:53] <varunendra> MidnightNinja, what is your connection's name ?
[01:53] <jmunsch_> & [1969:2060]
[01:53] <MidnightNinja> my universities connection?
[01:53] <varunendra> jmunsch_, and the "Kernel module in use"?
[01:54] <MidnightNinja> specifically, the ssid?'
[01:54] <varunendra> MidnightNinja, yes. It will also be the name of the file that connection settings are saved in.
[01:54] <MidnightNinja> WIRELESS-PITTNET
[01:55] <MidnightNinja> Also, I am not on ubuntu right now, since I have no way of accessing the internet on it
[01:55] <varunendra> MidnightNinja, are you dual booting?
[01:55] <MidnightNinja> yup
[01:55] <MidnightNinja> windows 8 and ubuntu 13.04
[01:55] <zykotick9> varunendra: :( actually with the -v in lspci, you need "lspci -nnkv | grep -iA8 vga" to get to the "Kernel derive in use:" line :( so that's not so good.
[01:55] <MidnightNinja> idk if hardware is fully functional, but it works
[01:55] <MidnightNinja> and nvidia driver is loaded
[01:56] <varunendra> zykotick9, I've used a few variations, so kinda aware of those glitches ;P
[01:57] <zykotick9> varunendra: well thanks again, i'm stealing it regardless ;)
[01:57] <varunendra> MidnightNinja, there was a workaround, but it does not always work, and it involves modifying the 'Key File' of the connection
[01:57] <MidnightNinja> vaurndera: explain?
[01:57] <varunendra> zykotick9, I stole it very shamelessly too.. from a senior member :D
[01:58] <varunendra> MidnightNinja, there should be a file /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/WIRELESS-PITTNET in your Ubuntu part
[01:58] <MidnightNinja> okay
[01:58] <varunendra> MidnightNinja, you must open it as root (can't even read it as a normal user)
[01:59] <MidnightNinja> got it
[01:59] <varunendra> MidnightNinja, then there should be a line "ca-system-cert=true" in it. You have to change its value from "true" to "flase"
[01:59] <tech11> hi all
[01:59] <MidnightNinja> alright awesome
[01:59] <MidnightNinja> thanks for the help
[02:00] <MidnightNinja> see ya in a bit
[02:00] <varunendra> MidnightNinja, no probs, hope it solves the issue.
[02:00] <tech11> how do u running sh configure?
[02:00] <varunendra> jmunsch_, still there?
[02:00] <jmunsch_> varunendra : i am not very familiar with what modules relate to the wifi ... but pulling what looks familiar from "lsmod"  ... brcmsmac,mac80211
[02:01] <tech11> how do u running sh configure in ubuntu?
[02:02] <varunendra> jmunsch_, that should have been mentioned in the output of the command "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net". So is it brcmsmac?
[02:02] <jmunsch_> Kernel driver in use: atl1c
[02:03] <varunendra> jmunsch_, nope, it is for the ethernet part, see the wireless part
[02:03] <tech11> i need help please
[02:04] <jmunsch_> varunendra : thnx ... yes brcmsmac
[02:04] <varunendra> jmunsch_, also, does it happen while shutting down or rebooting from win8 only or also when shutting down Ubuntu?
[02:04] <zykotick9> tech11: compiling software should be your LAST resort.  but have you tried "./configure"?
[02:05] <jmunsch_> varunendra : not sure what win8 is ... but wifi must be disabled before shutdown in order for it to work next boot
[02:05] <jmunsch_> ubuntu
[02:05] <James_Epp> I want to make a startup application pointing to a bash script. However, I do not want to type in my password when the script performs sudo commands. Is there any way to make these bash scripts not require the password?
[02:06] <varunendra> jmunsch_, sorry I confused you with someone else, I thought you are dual booting with windows 8
[02:07] <jmunsch_> varunendra : no ... i had a 12.04 install a few months ago ... and had the same issue ... is there anything that I can do to pinpoint why this would occur? what are your thoughts on it? something to do with module loading?
[02:08] <varunendra> jmunsch_, we frequently deal with this card at Ubuntu Forums, but never saw this kind of problem before. Have you also tried the proprietary driver at some point? Or some manual configuration somewhere?
[02:08] <tech11> how do u remove ubunut in desktop
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> tech11:  what do you want to use instead?
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> !purekde
[02:08] <jmunsch_> varunendra : no .. this is a fresh install albeit ... ubuntu studio ... but i had the same issue with a 32bit ubuntu desktop version as well ... that's how i figured it might be the same issue
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> easier to just leave ubuuntu and unity installed and select a differnt desktop at the login screen
[02:09] <jmunsch_> varunendra : no proprietary ... no man config
[02:09] <varunendra> James_Epp, add the command (with absolute paths) in /etc/rc.local file. Make sure the file's last line remains "exit 0"
[02:10] <tech11> window 7
[02:10] <James_Epp> varunendra: Will that pass on all "root" rights to for instance, "gnome-terminal -x bash /dir/Script.sh"
[02:10] <hanky> Has anyone used nitrogen for the function of having an extended wallpaper through dual monitors?
[02:10] <James_Epp> >>>As well as open a window for when my user auto-logs in?
[02:10] <varunendra> jmunsch_, interesting issue then. We may try a few things but I think a forum thread may be a better place for that kind of 'experiments'
[02:11] <jmunsch_> varunendra : sure launchpad? where should i submit the query and other information?
[02:11] <varunendra> James_Epp, that script and all the commands in it are executed at boot time 'as root'. That's all I know about it.
[02:11] <varunendra> jmunsch_, ubuntuforums.org
[02:11] <James_Epp> varunendra: Thanks.
[02:12] <varunendra> James_Epp, np :)
[02:12] <tech11> i am install window 7
[02:12] <varunendra> jmunsch_, precisely here : http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=336
[02:13] <James_Epp> tech11: So If I understand correctly, you ubuntu installed and instead want to completely delete ubuntu and install windows 7 again?
[02:13] <varunendra> jmunsch_, for adding details, you might find this script helpful : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> tech11:  if you want to delete ubuntu. then delete the partions and reinstall whatever os you want
[02:13] <tech11> yes
[02:14] <James_Epp> tech11: Join #windows and ask them to walk you through the process of deleting partitions while doing a fresh install.
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> ive seen windows 'restore disk' sets that automatically delete all the partions anyway. (which can be annoying)
[02:15] <sors> I can't get "aoss gtick" to stay in the unity launcher for my life any ideas ? all other  i tried worked
[02:15] <jmunsch_> varunendra : alright ... just getting this SSO stuff under controll ... new login from that server down incident and all i suppose ... i will submit the necessary information ... would you like me to get a link to the thread back here?
[02:16] <varunendra> jmunsch_, might get you some help from here. But if you wish to let 'Me' know of it, just pm me there. My id is same at UF
[02:17] <jmunsch_> varunendra : alright the more the merrier :D thnx for the help
[02:18] <varunendra> welcome :)
[02:23] <Titanium> i installed ubuntu 12.04 desktop 64 bit, and when I try to boot from the disk I installed too... it immediatly goes to a blank screen with a blinking cursor and stays there
[02:24] <Titanium> should I be seeing grub instead?
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> you may wan tto try the 'boot-repair' tool Titanium  mentioned at the following url
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> !fixboot
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> or the nomodeset option if you can get to the grub menu. press/hold shift at boot
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[02:25] <Titanium> thanks! also does ubuntu think ram pairity errors are the same as MCE ?
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> by default grub is hidden if ubuntu is ht eonly os on the system
[02:26] <Benkinooby> hi
[02:26] <Titanium> durign install it said i got MCE, but i checked logs on the server and no such errors happened
[02:29] <Titanium> wtf
[02:29] <Titanium> it setup GPT I think
[02:30] <tech11> how do u fixing boot window
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> tech11:  you wan tto put the windows bootloader on the system? or grub?
[02:31] <tech11> yes
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> yes to what?
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> if you want to restore windows.. ask in #windows
[02:32] <Titanium> he obviously wants both to happen at the same time :)
[02:32] <Titanium> sorry
[02:33] <MichaelP> how do i get compiz working in gnome. ?  ccsm.....    compizconfig - Info: Backend     : gsettings....compizconfig - Info: Integration : true...compizconfig - Info: Profile     : Default........Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[02:34] <zykotick9> MichaelP: i don't think gnome-shell does compiz...
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> MichaelP, the shell is mutter
[02:35] <MichaelP> im in fall back... works perfect in ultimate edition 3.5.... but that thing in so loaded
[02:37] <MichaelP> Does it work in unity ?
[02:40] <taime1> If i am seeing dropped packets, but ethtool -S eth1 returns no tx errors or any mention of dropped packets, is the problem likely with the router
[02:40] <taime1> >?
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> MichaelP:  unity is a plugin for compiz.
[02:40] <kandinski> How can I debug a VPN connection? Is there any way to launch the Network Manager VPN connection from a console, so the output tells me why it's not connecting?
[02:40] <Titanium> how do i make ubuntu boot, if for some reason it automatically formatted as GPT, do i need to re-install (my compouter cannot boot GPT formatted disks)
[02:41] <terribus> taime1: Yeah
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> if the pc cant handle gpt.  then that would sound like you need to repartion the disks to the msdos table. and reinstall
[02:41] <MichaelP> Dr_Willis: i thought unity was like a shell for gnome
[02:41] <Titanium> is there some reason it does GPT by default?
[02:41] <terribus> taime1: swap cables first just to be sure,
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> and unity is a compiz plugin that runs on top of the core gnome desktop
[02:42] <zykotick9> Titanium: is your drive 3+TB?
[02:42] <taime1> terribus: yeah, i was going to go that route
[02:42] <MichaelP> ok
[02:42] <taime1> hoe reliable is ethtool?
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> Titanium, Did this computer have a OEM W8 install at any point, are you sure it is not a uefi computer?
[02:43] <Titanium> yes, its 2 years old
[02:43] <Titanium> my computer does not support windows...
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> Titanium, the last two comments hardly make sense.
[02:43] <Titanium> reverse them
[02:43] <terribus> taime1: pretty reliable
[02:43] <MichaelP> Dr_Willis: if i installed ubuntu insted of kubuntu... compiz and gnome... compiz would be in the ubuntu install ?
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> lol righ good luck
[02:44] <Titanium> it is not uefi, it is bios, its old
[02:44] <Titanium> it never ran windows as it does not support windows
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> MichaelP:  ubuntu uses unity and compiz and gnome.   Kubuntu does not use compiz
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> or gnome or unity :)
[02:44] <Titanium> it has too much cpu and ram to support windows :(
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> !who | Titanium will help
[02:44] <MichaelP> so then if i install ubuntu-desktop... everything should be there then
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> MichaelP:  yes.
[02:45] <Titanium> !tab
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> Titanium, I asked a question, "Did this computer have a OEM W8 install at any point" then you said yes then said it does not support windows
[02:46] <Titanium> yeah, sorry i answered the last part first
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> could have been yes to anything without a nick is all. Titanium
[02:46] <Titanium> wilee-nilee sorry
[02:46] <MichaelP> ok... or would i be better off just downloading ubuntu 13.04 iso
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> Titanium, No biggie we just want to be sure we understand each other is all. ;)
[02:47] <Titanium> wilee-nilee im just going to re-install
[02:47] <Titanium> wilee-nilee i can manually partition, i just was hoping the automatic one would be sane and do MBR for <2TB
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> Titanium, Check the partition table, I would make it a msdos if possible that it is empty, the mbr might have gpt info as well and need clearing.
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> MichaelP:  im not sure what you are trying to do.
[02:48] <Titanium> wilee-nilee I re-did the RAID5 before install, and removed all other storage (I had a usb key before on the internal usb slot)
[02:48] <MichaelP> Dr_Willis: wanting all the effects of compiz
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> Titanium, Sometimes big HD's have two HD's attached, I wonder if this is the case 2 terrabytes ca run msdos.
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> can*
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> MichaelP:  install compiz and all the plugins if thats what you want. Ifyou want the full unity-desktop  install ubuntu-desktop
[02:49] <Titanium> wilee-nilee i have been trying to get this turned into my new gaming pc for like a month now, sorry if i sound frustrated :)
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> Titanium, I did not notice that, I was just concerned with giving bad advice is all. ;)
[02:50] <bluedogslim> I have a question. What is the short cut key command for starting the calculator in ubuntu?
[02:51] <MichaelP> Dr_Willis: i did install compiz and everything.....   terminal.....   ccsm.....    compizconfig - Info: Backend     : gsettings....compizconfig - Info: Integration : true...compizconfig - Info: Profile     : Default........Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> bluedogslim, I use synapse to trigger apps myself, not keys.
[02:51] <bluedogslim> there has to be a hot key or some short cut
[02:52] <terribus> Titanium: Are you using hardware or software RAID? Is it built into your motherboard or did you buy a seperate card?
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> ive installed 13.04 64bit on a targa laptop with a geforce go and nouveau driver, it all works flawlessly, just when opening dash searching applictions laptop freezes, any clues?
[02:52] <bluedogslim> Especially if you want to use the calculator in a hurry
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> bluedogslim, You could assign one I doubt there is one for the calculator.
[02:52] <Titanium> terribus its an LSI 9260-8i
[02:53] <Titanium> terribus hardware RAID
[02:53] <bluedogslim> I got it
[02:53] <terribus> and you created a RAID 5 container in the RAID bios?
[02:53] <bluedogslim> Wow thats cool
[02:53] <Titanium> terribus yeah
[02:53] <Titanium> terribus and i set that volume as the boot one
[02:54] <terribus> Titanium: and I assume that when you installed, it listed it as /dev/sd* ?
[02:54] <Titanium> terribus and i enabled option ROM for the card
[02:54] <DJ_U|Laptop> Anyone know of a way around being stuck on a menu in the install?
[02:54] <terribus> Titanium: wacky
[02:54] <Titanium> terribus i didnt check I assumed the auto partitioning would just magically do it
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> DJ_U|Laptop: wich menu?
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> bluedogslim, here is some info if needed. http://askubuntu.com/questions/83962/assign-keyboard-shortcut-to-program
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> Titanium:  its possible the boot-repair tool may fix things.. then again it may not. ;)
[02:55] <Titanium> Dr_Willis it is GUI only so i cant tell
[02:55] <bluedogslim> wow - thats cool
[02:55] <DJ_U|Laptop> I'm stuck on the "Where are you" screen.  Tried the "Install alongside Windows" install option, via live disc
[02:55] <terribus> Titanium: *Should*, I'd re run the live CD and explore block devices to see if the device actually shows up.
[02:55] <Titanium> Dr_Willis and the CLI commands didnt let me fix it as it said it was GPT foramatted
[02:55] <terribus> fdisk -l ?
[02:55] <Titanium> terribus yeah it shows up, but as GPT
[02:55] <bluedogslim> ubuntu is amazing
[02:55] <lotuspsychje> DJ_U|Laptop: does the 'where are you' menu freezes?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> Titanium:  you can get a boot-repair dedicated live-cd - i dont use gpt enough to even now about it much
[02:56] <Titanium> Dr_Willis i dont use GPT either as i cannot boot it
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> fdisk is outdated a bit and dosent handle gpt. that dosent mean the system cant handle gpt
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> bluedogslim, days 11.10, but the keyboard app is in all releases
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> says*
[02:56] <terribus> fdisk is way outdated :)
[02:56] <Titanium> Dr_Willis i have spent a day before helping someone else try to get windows to intall to GPT on this same computer, and it never worked (they didnt want to create an 80 GB partition for windows :) )
[02:57] <DJ_U|Laptop> It's frozen, I can select the few runnings tasks in the tray, but hitting back and continue in the install does nothing and the cursor in continously spinning.
[02:57] <Titanium> Dr_Willis i found later that it was not possible to boot GPT
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> Titanium, a website worth knowing about Rod's. http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/
[02:57] <DJ_U|Laptop> I might add I'm attempting to install 12.04 LTS
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> Titanium: maybe try ##hardware aswell to doublecheck your raid layout
[02:57] <Titanium> lotuspsychje my raid layout is fine
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> DJ_U|Laptop: wich version did you try now?
[02:58] <DJ_U|Laptop> scroll up. :) 12.04 LTS
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> my bad :p
[02:58] <DJ_U|Laptop> lol, np
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> DJ_U|Laptop: maybe try 13.04?
[02:59] <DJ_U|Laptop> Well, I guess I could try grabbing 13.04, but would that affect the partitioning, given that the install has made it this far, then hanging?
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> DJ_U|Laptop: it will give you alot of options aswell
[03:00] <jmgk> hi all
[03:00] <jmgk> Anyone here know if laptops have good battery life with Ubuntu?
[03:00] <terribus> Titanium: I'd run down if the OS actually sees the block device. Sometimes there's a driver it needs(havent seen this with ubuntu recently, but it happens) especially if it's an LSI controller rather than COTS.
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> DJ_U|Laptop: ive seen few systems hang on the partitioning menu
[03:00] <Kupo24z> Anyone know how to fix this problem with python/nova? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3148935
[03:00] <terribus> Titanium: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/category/RAID/
[03:01] <bluedogslim> Ubuntu would have the best battery life out of any os because its effecient.
[03:01] <bluedogslim> If your worried about too many process try installing mint.
[03:02] <DJ_U|Laptop> Well, I seem to be able to get past the partitioning menu, on that screen I'm stuck at, it displaying copying files, display bar goes to the end, then I'm stuck.
[03:02] <jmunsch_> varunendra : i created a thread for that issue of "wifi does not work unless disabled and computer rebooted"  ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2176768&p=12799023#post12799023
[03:03] <DJ_U|Laptop> Well, it's does NOT display the grub loader at boot, it goes directly into windows without the live cd installed.
[03:04] <varunendra> jmunsch_, subscribing it. I shall wait to see if someone else with possibly similar experience can pick it up. If not, shall post after sometime..
[03:04] <DWSR> How can I get the last kernel panic message?
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> jmgk:  it will depend on the exact laptop and the ubuntu version. theres a lot of issues with some makes and very poor battery life. often due to the laptop makers not following the standards
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> DJ_U|Laptop, This a computer with W8?
[03:06] <DJ_U|Laptop> No, Windows 7
[03:06] <DWSR> How can I get details about the last kernel panic to occur on my system??
[03:06] <DJ_U|Laptop> x64
[03:07] <jmunsch_> varunendra : sounds good ... no hurry ... and i forgot to mention ... but i did in the thread ... the issue seems to be resolved in 13.04 ... so is not super pressing since i know how to scoot around it ... but since it is an issue for the LTS maybe something should be added to an update? i dunno. but it is definitely a reason for someone new to ubuntu to just walk away from it.
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> DJ_U|Laptop, Mainly is it a uefi, did it ever have W8? Does it have 4 primary partitions maybe if a msdos setup, hard to really tell important details so far.
[03:07] <jmgk> ok Dr_Willis
[03:08] <DJ_U|Laptop> Has 3 primary partitions, but they are all on different drives.  It has never had windows 8 on it.  Not sure what UEFI is, but I have a BIOS
[03:09] <surface-vermin> does you bios enable you to use a mouse ?
[03:09] <DJ_U|Laptop> yes, both P/S 2 and USB.  I do not have access to a P/S 2 mouse, however.
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> DJ_U|Laptop, are you sure different drives, are you calling partitions drives?
[03:10] <zexcriz_> is apparmor enabled by default in ubuntu ?
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz_, no
[03:10] <lotuspsychje> DJ_U|Laptop: how about you use ubuntu for your whole pc, and loose winblows once and for good :p
[03:10] <zexcriz_> wilee-nilee, ok
[03:11] <DJ_U|Laptop> I would if I could, but I have a ton of games and none of them work under the Linux kernal
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> DJ_U|Laptop: did you check playonlinux and steam?
[03:11] <DJ_U|Laptop> I have, but none are availible and I suspect wouldn't run with WINE
[03:12] <dog-food> stop playing games and do something useful
[03:12] <varunendra> jmunsch_, thanks for that update, definitely worth looking into. But the latest updates for 12.04 use the same kernel as default 13.04, have you tried updating it?
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> !infi playonlinux | DJ_U|Laptop
[03:12] <surface-vermin> wine has a data base to check
[03:12] <dog-food> or play dota2
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | DJ_U|Laptop
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> !appdb
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> !ot | dog-food this is support
[03:13] <DJ_U|Laptop> I'll check those out.  I see in disk management that it did seem to create a partition.  I wonder if I disconnect the other drives would make things easier.  They are backup/storage drives.
[03:13] <zexcriz_> can i setup postfix for my home use ? is that a good idea or a bad one ?
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> DJ_U|Laptop: yes would be nice to install 13.04 clean on 1 drive first, will blow your mind
[03:14] <OldTexas> Yep, jes blew mine.  Quick install too.
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> OldTexas: tnx for feedback mate
[03:14] <OldTexas> Much obliged
[03:14] <jmunsch_> varunendra : yeah i have installed all the updates that have shown up thus far in the notification area.
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> DJ_U|Laptop: and for your dj needs try mixxx :p
[03:15] <surface-vermin> mixxx is awesome
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> surface-vermin: i agree, very proffessional
[03:15] <varunendra> jmunsch_, Okkay then, will watch the thread with interest :)
[03:15] <surface-vermin> it's really done right alot of the controls feel authentic
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> surface-vermin: i'v recently installed a laptop for a real dj, he looked his eyes out for mixxx :p
[03:16] <jmunsch_> varunendra : thanx for the input and feedback
[03:16] <DJ_U|Laptop> afk for a minute, Detroit Tigers 1 pitch away from clinching AL Central
[03:16] <DJ_U|Laptop> 1 out*
[03:17] <surface-vermin> what sorta setup does he have with it ?
[03:17] <surface-vermin> midi controller ?
[03:17]  * lotuspsychje hopes to see 1600 users in #ubuntu-offtopic one day..
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> surface-vermin: yes he got a midi controller, and ive installed hydrogen for him aswell
[03:18] <OldTexas> Reckon I'll mosey on over there.
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> DJ_U|Laptop, be careful with using just windows disk management to show partitions, it hides the boot partition usually, look with gparted in ubuntu if you are going to install, I assume you know the amount and limitations of partitions types on a singke HD.
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> i seem to recall seeing 3000 in here on release day
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: lol :p
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> the reason ignore part/joins was invented
[03:19] <DJ_U|Laptop> Yes, I'm aware of the limitations on a single drive.  I've been working with multiple partitions, as well as drives for more than a decade.  :)
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> OldTexas, for your pleasure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yNwuvOur-0
[03:23] <DJ_U|Laptop> Well, this is going to take awhile, downloading a 785 MB file at ~110 KBps
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> DJ_U|Laptop: 13.04 is worth the wait for sure, i found it very stable and fast
[03:25] <tr3nton> http://askubuntu.com/a/157787/50523 I notice in this answer to check if a process is running, they put a square bracket around the first letter of the process name, to exclude the grep process. Is that right? How does that work.. couldnt see any doc about that
[03:25] <tr3nton> ps aux | grep "[g]edit"
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> tr3nton: man ps maybe?
[03:28] <DJ_U|Laptop> Woo, Detroit Tigers, 2013 American League Central Division Champions!!!
[03:28] <tr3nton> lotuspsychje: ok thanks, will have a read. Thought it'd be more related to grep
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> tr3nton: didnt find it at first yet, its a huge man :p alot of options in there
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> that sould be a regular expression woldent it?
[03:30] <Dr_Willis>  [g]edit => would be gedit, or edit    (or am i forgeting my regrexp-fu skills)
[03:30] <tr3nton> Dr_Willis: That's what I initially thought, but im not sure
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> that would be an option/argument going to grep in that example. not ps.
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> !info xfetch
[03:36] <Guest21364> !info synaptic
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> whats that in terminal? http://www.deviantart.com/art/Dark-368201739
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> !find xfetch
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> !info dim
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> hmmz
[03:40] <seanz> Anyone here have any advice on where I'd start to learn how to build packages?
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> !apt | seanz
[03:40] <Guest21364> lotuspsychje, Archey? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iQ4GvUgNTgU/UEEQP8tU_tI/AAAAAAAAEvk/efYvPlxyajU/s1600/Screenshot+from+2012-08-31+22:26:24.png
[03:41] <Guest21364> !info archey
[03:41] <seanz> Dr_Willis: Thanks very much!
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> debians homepage may also have some  m docs
[03:41] <surface-vermin> i thought  archey is arch linux package
[03:42] <hu> a
[03:42] <rscnt> use
[03:42] <rscnt> arch
[03:42] <Guest21364> surface-vermin, it is but check that screen shot.
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> first url was a xubuntu 13.04 box
[03:42] <Guest21364> surface-vermin, I don't know an Ubuntu equivalent name if there is one.
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> !info sfetch
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> what does it do? ;)
[03:43] <surface-vermin> wish i could help yeah guest sorry
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> maybe its a conky thing from terminal
[03:45] <surface-vermin> no it like uname -a with dirto logo in teminal
[03:45] <surface-vermin> distro *
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> surface-vermin: yes but wich packate to install to see that
[03:46] <lotuspsychje> *package
[03:48] <Guest21364> lotuspsychje, the screenshot I gave has a download URL as part of the image.  It might even still be there..
[03:51] <archangle25> is there a howto somewhere when i can read on which commands to APPEND to the kernel in a pxe environment so that the installer will use my http local mirror?
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> !pxe
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> perhaps this one
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> !install
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> guess you could edit the /etc/apt/sources.list or other apt configs befor starting the installer
[03:55] <archangle25> ive read i dont know how many ubuntu specific installs recently all to no avail.
[03:55] <archangle25> my problem is that the initrd and kernel are loaded but then dont go anywhere and drop out to busybox
[03:55] <tfdl> good evening to all,
[03:55] <archangle25> eg in rhel I would pass ks=blah url etc and annaconda would know to take over
[03:55] <surface-vermin> evening
[03:55] <Titanium> hi, i am partitioning ubuntu as i install it, is there any guide on how big i should make each partition?
[03:56] <archangle25> i know casper is the installation env i *think*
[03:56] <surface-vermin> titanium no
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> !who | surface-vermin not a nick in sight
[03:57] <Titanium> surface-vermin can you give me some guidance?
[03:57] <surface-vermin> !Titanium sure
[03:58] <Titanium> surface-vermin I have 200 GB of disk, and 512 GB ram. I plan to use this for gameing (note i will not need much if any swap space)
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> surface-vermin, Cool, you can tab complete nicks.
[03:58] <Guest21364> Titanium, I have one big / and a swap.  That's it.  I also have a network attached Samba share that is where I back up anything important.  That is why I don't have a separate /home partition.  Basically, you want a root "/" to be big enough for all the applications you would like to install and the rest for home minus a reasonable swap.
[03:59] <tfdl> I am looking for help with GtkTerm package on Ubuntu. Can you please point me to a source of documentation for this package?
[03:59] <Guest21364> Titanium, but if you have networked attached storage: one big / and a swap.
[03:59] <tfdl> !GtkTerm
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> Titanium, 512 gigs of ram?
[03:59] <OldTexas> There's this outfit called Identity that makes this $14.95 2 DVD little magazine thing that's got a dDVD for 13.04 32bit on one side n' 64bit on the other.  The second DVD has Xubuntu, Lububtu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu-Gnome  n' Xfce on it. It's a good starter DVD if you are startin' from nothing.  http://www.linuxidentity.com/us/E
[04:00] <Titanium> Guest21364 yeah i will probably use my iSCSI storage as it has better performance than my SSD
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> OldTexas, Those are all free in general.
[04:01] <Titanium> wilee-nilee yes
[04:01] <wilee-nilee> Titanium, This a super computer or something.
[04:01] <Guest21364> Titanium, the reason some people like a separate /home is because they reinstall and don't format the home partition when they do - they just reuse it.  In my case I have gigabit LAN.  I'll flatten my hard-drive and have it copied back in 20 minutes, no big deal.
[04:01] <Titanium> wilee-nilee its my new gaming pc
[04:02] <Titanium> yeah I have 10gbps ports integrated into motherboard so i will probably use my NAS for any high IOPS stuff
[04:06] <tfdl> I am looking for help with GtkTerm package on Ubuntu. Can you please point me to a source of documentation for this package?
[04:06] <reisio> tfdl: help accomplishing what?
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> tfdl:  most packages have docs in /usr/share/doc/ or doc-base
[04:07] <totesmuhgoats> hi friends
[04:07] <totesmuhgoats> how can i tell to what package a program belongs?
[04:07] <reisio> hi totesmuhgoats
[04:07] <totesmuhgoats> reisio: it has been a while
[04:08] <tfdl> with the gui of GtkTerm i can send a hex to serial port successfully, but how can i automate it or how can i do it in command line or as a program, please?
[04:08] <tfdl> to both <reisio> and <Dr_Willis> above.
[04:08] <reisio> totesmuhgoats: dpkg -S `which program`
[04:09] <Titanium> how large should i make /, /boot, /home, /tmp, /usr, /var, /srv, /opt, and /usr/local
[04:09] <reisio> Titanium: I wouldn't even make them separate
[04:09] <zykotick9> totesmuhgoats: or "dpkg -S /path/to/program"
[04:09] <reisio> Titanium: the only real advantage to doing so is to use specialized FSes for each partition
[04:09] <Titanium> does linux create a swap file like windows that is the same size as RAM?
[04:09] <Titanium> my HDD is smaller than RAM
[04:10] <reisio> Titanium: the installer does, yes, if you don't tell it what size you want
[04:10] <reisio> Titanium: then it probably wouldn't :p
[04:10] <Guest21364> Titanium, reisio, I'm not certain about Ubuntu but if /usr is separate on Arch you have to take care with it or your system won't boot..
[04:10] <surface-vermin> that in the mkinitcpio
[04:11] <surface-vermin> ubuntu take's care of that
[04:11] <totesmuhgoats> thanks for the responses, but dpkg says "no path found matching pattern /usr/bin/java"
[04:11] <zykotick9> totesmuhgoats: "which java" is it really in /usb/bin/java?
[04:11] <reisio> Guest21364: I imagine the installer is informed of any potential issues in that regard
[04:12] <tfdl> to both <reisio> and <Dr_Willis>: this is the package with gui that i mentioned above https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/oneiric/gtkterm/
[04:12] <reisio> zykotick9: :p
[04:12] <totesmuhgoats> zykotick9: yea i used reisio's syntax, so it returned the result of which
[04:12] <reisio> tfdl: how're you doing it now?
[04:12] <Titanium> so if I just make a big / is that fine, or should I make /tmp and /var smaller
[04:12] <reisio> totesmuhgoats: mmm, it's possible that's some de facto symlink that doesn't count
[04:12] <reisio> totesmuhgoats: readlink `which java` :p
[04:13] <reisio> but it should be pretty obvious what provides your java executable
[04:13] <totesmuhgoats> well java -version seems to suggest it is from openjdk
[04:13] <reisio> dpkg -l | egrep -i 'jdk|jre|oracle|sun|icedtea'
[04:13] <Guest21364> Titanium, if you end up making any of the partitions too small it can be a pain to later increase their sizes.  If you only have 200GB I see no problem with one big /
[04:13] <reisio> Titanium: I just make a big /
[04:13] <zykotick9> reisio: that's quite the egrep ;)
[04:13] <tfdl> to both <reisio> and <Dr_Willis>: I have entered the hex string and send successfully to serial port to switch the light red or green using its gui, but how can i do that programmatically?
[04:13] <reisio> zykotick9: yeah but it only took a half second to type :p
[04:14] <zexcriz_> what is a vhost ? is that a local host ?
[04:14] <reisio> tfdl: how are you doing it now?
[04:14] <reisio> zexcriz_: virtual host
[04:14] <reisio> it's a host that exists only in software
[04:14] <totesmuhgoats> looks like i have openjdk-6-jre installed
[04:14] <tfdl> reisio: I have entered the hex string and send successfully to serial port to switch the light red or green using its gui, but how can i do that programmatically?
[04:15] <totesmuhgoats> i need a jdk, is it safe to just do something like apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk? will apt take care of everything? or am i gonna break a whole bunch of stuff?
[04:15] <reisio> tfdl: need to know precisely how you're doing it manually first
[04:15] <reisio> "entered" is not descriptive enough
[04:15] <Titanium> i am tryign to partition this, but i do not see an option for GPT versus MBR in the installer GUI where i setupo my partitions. How do I do this?
[04:15] <zexcriz_> reisio, ok :)
[04:15] <reisio> totesmuhgoats: it's safe but that's probably not the most proper way
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> you can use echo  to send stuff to a serial port if you wanted to tfdl  i imagine most languages got wyas to open serial devices. I dont code much these days
[04:16] <reisio> totesmuhgoats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[04:16] <totesmuhgoats> reisio: thanks
[04:16] <totesmuhgoats> and thanks to everyone else too
[04:16] <reisio> or maybe it is :p
[04:17] <molly_> hi everybody! i have a hopefully quick question to ask: i am trying to install ubuntu on a netbook without a CDrom drive and no USB stick with more than 1.91G of space
[04:18] <molly_> i guess basically my qusetion is 'how i shot install'
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> Titanium:  i think you would use gparted to set the drives partion table type , befor you partion
[04:18] <reisio> molly_: 1.91 should be enough for the install image
[04:18] <MichaelP> how do i get compiz fusion icon to start on the unity panel ?
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> molly_:  lubuntu can fit on a 1gb usb stick i think also
[04:18] <reisio> molly_: http://unetbootin.sf.net/
[04:18] <molly_> oh thank goodness
[04:18] <tfdl> reisio: first install GtkTerm, from command line open the gui by issuing gtkterm command, gtkterm gui will open then on control signal drop down menu select send a hex string, then at the bottom of the screen enter the hex string then press enter to send to hex string to the serial. the default configuration of the ports is ok to start.
[04:19] <zykotick9> reisio: ahhh default ubuntu won't fint on 2G...
[04:19] <reisio> MichaelP: apt-cache search fusion | grep -i icon
[04:19] <reisio> zykotick9: really?
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> MichaelP:  what do you want a 'compiz fusion' icon to do?
[04:20] <MichaelP> Dr_Willis, so i can choose between compiz or what ever
[04:20] <reisio> zykotick9: think molly just wants to install -from- a usb stick
[04:20] <zykotick9> reisio: oh, they don't mean at the target?  ya, certainly for install media that would work!
[04:20] <reisio> MichaelP: fusion-icon is a separate package
[04:20] <reisio> zykotick9: I'm thinkin'
[04:20] <molly_> yes
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> MichaelP:  unity is a compiz plugin.. if you chose 'whatever' you will be killing off unity.
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> !info fusion-icon
[04:20] <molly_> i used a CDrom last time that a friend burned for me.
[04:20] <reisio> molly_: also there are "minimalcd" images, which if you had even less stick space you could use, but needn't ATM :)
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> fusion-icon is most likely an Indicator-applet that would show up at the top-right. not in the left side panel
[04:21] <molly_> awesome! that link you gave me already has me feeling a bit more hopeful :)
[04:22] <MichaelP> reisio, i know compiz fusion icon is seperate i installed it.. but it wont lunch
[04:22] <reisio> MichaelP: how have you tried to make it launch?
[04:23] <MichaelP> reisio, by clicking on it.... i know when its in panel you right click
[04:23] <reisio> MichaelP: you click on it and attempt to do what?
[04:24] <tfdl> reisio: first install GtkTerm, from command line open the gui by issuing gtkterm command, gtkterm gui will open then on view drop down menu select send a hex string, then at the bottom of the screen enter the hex string then press enter to send to hex string to the serial. the default configuration of the ports is ok to start.
[04:24] <Titanium> Dr_Willis i am in the ubuntu gui installer, it does not have any cli that I can see :( so I am unable to jsut fix it myself
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> Titanium:  alt-ctrl-f1 to get to console. or use the 'try ubuntu' option and use gparted befor you start the installer
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> or use gparted from a differnt live cd to partion as you want,. then boot the ubuntu install cd
[04:25] <MichaelP> reisio, tring to activarte compiz
[04:25] <MichaelP> apt-cache search fusion | grep -i icon
[04:25] <MichaelP> fusion-icon - tray icon to launch and manage Compiz Fusion
[04:26] <reisio> MichaelP: what makes you think compiz isn't already running?
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> a try icon - may be outdated. most things use the indicator-applet method not 'system tray'
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> ive not seen people useing 'fusion-icon' in ages. not needed it here in years.
[04:27] <MichaelP> reisio, can't get ccsm to do anything
[04:27] <reisio> MichaelP: mmm, you might need to install compiz proper, and run compiz --replace first
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> MichaelP:  try 'compiz --replace' that should insure that compiz is running.
[04:27] <reisio> not quite sure how Unity works
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> MichaelP:  what ubuntu release are you using?
[04:28] <zykotick9> reisio: currently, Unity is a compiz plugin...
[04:28] <Tweak_> Hello, new user to Ubuntu.  Just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 then 13.04.  On the last upgrade my USB doesn't seem to be working, and I can't use my USB keyboard and mouse.  Any ideas on how I can fix this?  I don't have an older ps2 keyboard and mouse.
[04:28] <MichaelP> Dr_Willis, 13.04.
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> MichaelP:  so on a normal ubuntu unity desktop. if you got proper window decorations, then compiz most likely is running.
[04:29] <reisio> zykotick9: mmhmm, but that doesn't mean someone didn't run cp compiz unity to make it happen :p
[04:29] <reisio> as I said, I'm simply unfamiliar with it
[04:29] <MichaelP> Dr_Willis, is there a run command thing in unity.... a ran compiz  --replace... but as soon as i close terminal it goes back to normal
[04:30]  * reisio believes in possibilities
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> MichaelP:  dont use the CLOSE button. use the exit command.
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> MichaelP:  compiz --replace &
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> exit
[04:30] <zykotick9> reisio: oh, i'm not "familiar" with unity either.  but i've heard things ;)
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> or alt-f2  compiz --replace
[04:31] <reisio> I heard things, and stuff too!
[04:31] <Rallias> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6157288/ <- With the br0:1 address, I'm able to access the server's SSH. With the br0 address, I'm unable to ping in or out. Am I doing anything wrong?
[04:31] <OldTexas> cool
[04:31] <molly_> thanks for the help everybody!
[04:31] <molly_> wish me luck XD
[04:31] <tfdl> reisio: first install GtkTerm, from command line open the gui by issuing gtkterm command, gtkterm gui will open then on view drop down menu select send a hex string, then at the bottom of the screen enter the hex string then press enter to send to hex string to the serial. the default configuration of the ports is ok to start.
[04:32] <OldTexas> ]
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> tfdl:  if you want to send a string to the serial port. You can do that via  (old skool way)   sudo echo 'string' > /dev/whatevertheserialdeviceis
[04:32] <MichaelP> Dr_Willis, terminal compiz --replace & works... but file close and it goes back to normal desktop
[04:32] <reisio> tfdl: right sorry
[04:33] <reisio> tfdl: sounds like Dr_Willis has your number
[04:33] <reisio> MichaelP: nohup compiz --replace > /dev/null &
[04:33] <tfdl> reisio n/p.
[04:33] <reisio> or just use ALT+F2, as said
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> MichaelP:  'file close' means what?    try alt-f2 and 'compiz --replace'
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> or just log out abd back in. l;)
[04:33] <MichaelP> Dr_Willis, menu on terminal... file button then close
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> MichaelP:  DONT use the terminal close button.. use the exit command as i said eralier.
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> or just leave the silly terminal open ;)
[04:34] <tfdl> Dr_Willis: i tried that but it does not work. because i think sending a hex number is not the same as sending the string. Is there a way you can send a hex via this old skool way? Thanks Dr_Willis!
[04:35] <Rallias> Wait... why would you recommend against using the close button?
[04:35] <MichaelP> That is why i want the fusion icon
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> 'compiz --replace', then 'exit'   normall works for me
[04:35] <TehSuckij> yoyo
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> tfdl:  no idea.  convert your hex to ascii string perhaps
[04:35] <tfdl> ah
[04:35] <tfdl> not a bad idea
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> tfdl:  or use perl or python that can print 'hex' output
[04:36] <tfdl> can you point me to a documentation?
[04:36] <tfdl> Dr_Willis?
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> perl.org  ?
[04:36] <Tweak_> I just upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 then 13.04.  On the last upgrade my USB doesn't seem to be working, and I can't use my USB keyboard and mouse.  Any ideas on how I can fix this?  I don't have an older ps2 keyboard and mouse.
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> all the docs on perl should be there somewhere. ;)
[04:36] <tfdl> ok
[04:37] <tfdl> thanks Dr_Willis.
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> python.org for python
[04:37] <tfdl> ok
[04:37] <tfdl> i will try there thanks again!
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> Tweak_:  the keybaord works in the grub menus?
[04:39] <Rallias> Tweak_, Did you try hotplugging it?
[04:40] <Tweak_> Dr_Willis, I dont have a grub menu I dont think, I don't dual boot.  It works in bios.
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> be back in a bit.
[04:40] <Tweak_> Rallias: If hot plugging it means unplug and plug it back in the answer is yes.
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> Tweak_:  you do have a grub  if you are usi9ng ubuntu. Its hidden by default - Press and hold SHIFT to see if it appear
[04:40] <zykotick9> Tweak_: i think you'll find, that that isn't uncommon with ubuntu "upgrades".  i'd guess most "experineced" ubuntu-users do fresh installs.  best of luck.
[04:41] <Tweak_> Ok Dr_Willis I will try that, thank you.
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> or once the system boots.  ssh in and see if you can fix the grub /etc/default/grub file to make grub NOT be hidden.
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> Tweak_:  then you can try the text mode option to see if they work oin the console
[04:41] <Tweak_> Ohhhh Ok, I will just do a fresh install then.  I installed 12.04  2 days ago, I can reinstall the apps.
[04:41] <Rallias> Dr_Willis, Calling you on that one... SSH isn't installed by default on desktops.
[04:41]  * Dr_Willis hates grub auto-hideing
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> Rallias:  hes done 3 upgrades in a row.. its likelyhe has installed a lot of things
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> i never said it was installed by default. ;) i said its a way to alter the file if he has no keyboard.
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> Tweak_:  also check if the led/light is on - when the system boots - on the mouse.. had someone in here the other day with a weird issue with no power to the mouse.
[04:43] <Tweak_> The mouse is on, but the keyboard wont do num lock.
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> just numlock is not working?
[04:44] <Tweak_> Well, none of the keyboard keys are working, nor  the mouse, but the mouse LED is on.
[04:44] <Rallias> Did you try plugging it into separate hubs?
[04:44] <Tweak_> It was working in 12.10.  But no worries, I am just going to wipe and do a fresh install of 13
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> i will bbl. )
[04:44] <Tweak_> Yes, I tried front and rear ports.
[04:49] <surface-vermin> quit
[04:50] <MichaelP> ok got it going.... but to install fglrx drivers.. you guys to use jocky right
[04:56] <Hundred> hello
[04:57] <reisio> 'lo Hundred
[04:58] <Hundred> is it true that Dash search tool of Ubuntu logs everything you type and sends it to Canonical and Amazon?
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> Hundred, yeah and the nsa, lol.
[04:59] <Hundred> its all over the internet about Ubuntu privacy concerns
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> that's a joke by the way
[05:01] <archangle25> hi - ok so ive installed 12.0.4 latest core and then installed xfce4 via command line.  what is the package name for the ubuntu software centre please so i can install that?
[05:01] <Hundred> archangle25 did you try installing Xubuntu?
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Hundred:  theres dozens of blog sites and articals out about what it does. It sends ANONYMOUS info  and returns search results
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> Hundred:  if you dont want it doing it.. you can turn it off.
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> archangle25, If your trying to do a trim install the software center is not really part of that.
[05:02] <archangle25> Hundred, no i just installed the basic via net install, then xfce4
[05:03] <archangle25> its really just for steam client so i guess i could install it manually
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> archangle25:  getting the latest steam .deb package maybe a lot easier ;)
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> !steam
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> archangle25:  theres also a steam-desktop package that makes a login session that starts up steam directly
[05:05] <archangle25> Dr_Willis, oh thats what i want
[05:05]  * archangle25 googles
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> archangle25:  check webupd8 or the omgubuntu blog sites - it was mentined on those i recall
[05:11] <archangle25> apt-get doesnt do dependencies??
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> archangle25:  no. but gdebi can
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> archangle25:  oh wait. what are you dong exactly?
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> dpkg -i foo.deb   wont..  gdebi foo.deb   will ;)
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> apt-get gets stuff from the repos. so should pull in al needed deps
[05:14] <archangle25> arg
[05:15] <archangle25> -i
[05:15] <archangle25> ty
[05:16] <jnhghy> from time to time I'm facing a strange thing: my browser can't connect to the internet.... if I ping www.google.com I get ping: unkown host www.google.com but my IRC client connects and works without issues...
[05:16] <jnhghy> any idea?
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> try pinging via ip#   ie:   ping 8.8.8.8
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> if name dont work. but ip does -> points to a dns issue
[05:17] <SupaSol> Hello here
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> irc client may be cacheing the  ip's
[05:20] <jnhghy> Dr_Willis: ping 8.8.8.8 rezulted in a Destination host unreacheble...
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> that points to a gateway or router issue
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> does it just fail for a short amount of time?
[05:21] <jnhghy> Dr_Willis: and now everything is back to normal ...
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> 8.8.8.8 is googles main dns server - ;)
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> this is a wireless network?
[05:23] <jnhghy> Dr_Willis: I understand, what is strange is that if I refresh/try to connect for a couple of minutes... then it starts working, I'm on cable but also have a wifi as backup (it shows connected)
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> keep ping going in a terminal window. see if you can  catch when it goes down/back up.
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> ive een some people use that ping method to keep connections active. ;) but notmally thats just needed for some weird wifi setups
[05:24] <speedfire_laptop> Hi, anyone have an ide about how to install bumblebee primus under unbuntu 12.04 LTS ?
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> there should be guides on installing bumblebee on the askubuntu.com site and the forums.
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> i dont use the stuff - rarely see much mor epeople talk abouit here - other then to say to follow the guides
[05:26] <ak5> can someone help me debug this error?
[05:26] <ak5> https://gist.github.com/alexanderververis/2405a0fa55fd995e394f
[05:26] <ak5> I am trying to install scrapy from the scrapy repo but dpkg is complaining
[05:28] <speedfire_laptop> Dr_Willis but you knowm each time I am following a guide I got problems, I have try with debian Jessie, debian Wheezy, and now ubuntu :s
[05:28] <sepero> ak5: uninstall  scrapy-0.15
[05:28] <ak5> sepero: why is it not overwriting simply?
[05:29] <sepero> ak5: i do not know. perhaps it is from a ppa
[05:29] <ak5> sepero: it is from a ppa. problem is I am using ansible
[05:30] <ak5> sepero: packages from a ppa can't overwrite older versions of themselves?
[05:30] <nothingnesss> Hi i'm going to be setting up RAID1 with 2 drives on an ubuntu install with mdadm. I'm seeing a lot of guides but a lot are outdated. Can somebody maybe recommend me one that worked well for them or an official ubuntu one pleasE?
[05:31] <sepero> ak5: they can, but ppa's are more likely to have bugs than oficial
[05:31] <ak5> sepero: I understand. Since I have tested this particular package, is there anyway short of -f that I can get apt to just install the package?
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> !pin
[05:32] <ak5> ok, thanks
[05:32] <sepero> ak5: if you force installed it, you would have scrapy-0.15 and scrapy-0.17 installed, and that could cause conflict. are you trying to install both?
[05:33] <ak5> I am really confused why scrapy-0.15 is even included
[05:34] <sepero> ak5: perhaps try:  sudo apt-get install scrapyd-0.17 scrapyd-0.15-
[05:36] <nothingnesss> Would this guide be safe to try on a 12.04 ? https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> nothingnesss:  what part of it?
[05:38] <nothingnesss> Dr_Willis: I'm going to be doing a fresh RAID1 install with mdadm on ubuntu 12.04. I just want a good guide to follow that's been tried and tested on 12.04.
[05:38] <nothingnesss> I've used my BIOS RAID and it's crap so I want to get this right with mdadm now.
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> No idea on raid and mdadm ;) i stay away from fancy things like that
[05:39] <reisio> raid was invented by hard disk manufacturers
[05:40] <reisio> to force you to replace drives more often :p
[05:40] <sepero> nothingnesss: maybe try #mdadm ? Wish I could help, but I never set one up
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> buy more of them for the same storage
[05:41] <nothingnesss> sepero: ok ill try it thanks
[05:44] <sepero> ak5: any luck?
[05:45] <ak5> sepero: no, for some reason ubuntu installs scrapy-0.15 when I add the ppa via ansible
[05:45] <ak5> even though I don't tell it to
[05:45] <sepero> ak5: what's the output of this?:  sudo apt-get install scrapyd-0.17 scrapyd-0.15-
[05:46] <ak5> sepero: even if that works, I need this to work via ansible because it's ~50 machines
[05:46] <speedfire_laptop>  
[05:48] <nothingnesss> seemed to have found a good guide for 12.04 https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/advanced-installation.html
[05:48] <sepero> ak5: ok, i'm not familiar with ansible
[05:49] <ak5> sepero: ok, for some reason, it installs scrapy-0.15 (not scrapyd)
[05:51] <Titanium> lol, ubuntu complained I never configured any swap space :)
[05:51] <sepero> ak5: If only you could run "apt-get" through ansible. Sorry I can't help more
[05:51] <Titanium> my hard disk is smaller than my RAM so i cant :D
[05:52] <Titanium> would it be good to swap to an iSCSI share?
[05:52] <sepero> Titanium: :)
[05:57] <tck9> i have a ubuntu server with a single nic. is it possible to enable internet connection sharing with this? the ubuntu server is connected to a local router and the client computer that needs to share the connection is connected to the same router
[05:57] <Ben64> why not have the router be a router?
[05:57] <tck9> the ubuntu server is using openvpn
[05:58] <tck9> need to route the connection through it
[05:58] <Titanium> yes it is possible
[05:58] <tck9> i've enabled ipv4 forwarding and added this iptables rule (iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE) ..
[05:58] <tck9> doesn't seem to be working though
[05:59] <ak5> sepero: thanks for your help anyway
[06:00] <penguiRaider> hello what does the error  "held broken packages" mean ? Sorry if it is a very basic question .
[06:01] <sepero> penguiRaider: there are packages that have not been modified because of conflicts
[06:02] <penguiRaider> sepero : can an upgrade of distro be a reason for that conflict?
[06:03] <sepero> penguiRaider: sometimes packages can't be removed because other packages depend on them. sometimes 2 packages can't be installed because they conflict with each other. your situation sounds like the second case
[06:04] <sepero> penguiRaider: yes it can
[06:06] <penguiRaider>  Sepero : Is there there a way for apt-get to take care of it by itself ? Or do I have to manually remove the conflicting packages?
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> may be easeir to remove the conflict - depending on what you need.
[06:08] <sepero> ^^
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> most of the thme when i see th eissue. they are conflicting over a trivial file. but it can depend on what you are installing
[06:08] <sepero> penguiRaider: it could mean a lot of things
[06:09] <sepero> penguiRaider: there may be some packages installed that you don't need anymore, or they just don't work with newer packages
[06:12] <sepero> penguiRaider: I'd need to see the full output to give you a more clear answer
[06:13] <penguiRaider> sepero : Thanks . This is the error that I got when I tried installing openssh server http://pastebin.com/FeinDFFh
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> penguiRaider:  whens the last time you did a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and perhaps 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' ?
[06:17] <sepero> penguiRaider: Dr_Willis could be right
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> always the first thing to try when apt complains.  ;)
[06:18] <sepero> penguiRaider: perhaps try: apt-get install openssh-server openssh-client=1:5.9p1-5ubuntu1
[06:19] <sepero> penguiRaider: It may give another error. I'd need to see that too. Could be a rabbit hole
[06:19] <fire__> i have installed webmail but i can't login
[06:20] <sepero> penguiRaider: the program aptitude is pretty good at giving several options for conflict resolution
[06:20] <fire__> i tried all the possibilities but still can't login to squirrelmail.
[06:20] <fire__> s/webmail/squirrelmail
[06:21] <steban> hola
[06:21] <subman> Is there a chat room devoted to love pat links?
[06:21] <penguiRaider> Dr_Willis : :) Thanks sudo apt-get dist-upgrade worked
[06:22] <penguiRaider> sepero : I guess the problem afterall was of some conflicting older packages :) thanks
[06:22] <sepero> penguiRaider: congrats
[06:23] <BenchMonkeyFligh> First time ubuntu user needs help running wine
[06:23] <penguiRaider>  sepero : thanks for listening to me so patiently :)
[06:23] <bazhang> BenchMonkeyFligh, which app
[06:23] <BenchMonkeyFligh> JasmineCam
[06:23] <sepero> penguiRaider: welcome
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> BenchMonkeyFligh:    wine /path/to/the/windowsbinary.exe
[06:23] <bazhang> !appdb | BenchMonkeyFligh check here first
[06:24] <bazhang> BenchMonkeyFligh, /join #winehq
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> the wine app database is a first stop ;) to see if the app is known to work, or not work
[06:24] <BenchMonkeyFligh> done
[06:28] <ronin> it's a bit confusing that unix returns 0 when true and programming languages 1 when true
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> unix  commands normally return an error code.  0 meaning 'success'
[06:29] <ronin> yup
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> so its not the same as true/false ;)
[06:30] <sepero> i agree it can be confusing
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> i dont see how its confuseing at all. ;)
[06:31] <reisio> never send an integer to do a word's job
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> the byte bit me
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> bigger bytes bite back badly.
[06:35] <sepero> the program `true` gives 0
[06:36] <reisio> is that /bin/true, or the shell builtin, though!
[06:36] <sepero> reisio: does it matter?
[06:37] <reisio> does anything
[06:37] <sepero> either would have the same result, otherwise it wouldn't be true
[06:40] <Wiz_KeeD> I removed the image at boot and I see a few lines of console showing when the system is loading up, but the first 4-5 secconds there is still that purple background that doesn't reveal what's going on...is there a way to remove that too? (12.04)
[06:40] <aeon-ltd> Wiz_KeeD: the splash at boot?
[06:41] <aeon-ltd> Wiz_KeeD: http://askubuntu.com/questions/33416/how-do-i-disable-the-boot-splash-screen
[06:41] <Wiz_KeeD> Yeah that I removed, but it's not like when I click to boot ubuntu it starts showing the console, it waits like 3-4 secconds before it starts showing
[06:42] <sepero> Wiz_KeeD: I don't know how to remove it, but if it helps, pressing Alt+F1 or Alt+F2 should allow you to see the diagnostic output
[06:43] <Wiz_KeeD> GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true
[06:43] <Wiz_KeeD> what is this?
[06:43] <Wiz_KeeD> ah ok
[06:43] <sepero> Wiz_KeeD: It's a timeout to select a different OS
[06:44] <Wiz_KeeD> ahh yes yes, thanks
[06:45] <sepero> Wiz_KeeD: If you press any keys during bootloading, the "hidden timeout" will be revealed
[06:45] <Wiz_KeeD> gotcha
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> !text
[06:52] <sepero> Wiz_KeeD: ^^^^
[06:52] <matthieu__> tes
[06:52] <vins> c'est la cité
[06:52] <matthieu__> vins pd
[06:52] <Guest14752> c'toi l'pd
[06:57] <Wiz_KeeD> yay Dr_Willis hits a home run!
[06:58] <Wiz_KeeD> yet the link does not show how to do that sepeck
[06:58] <Wiz_KeeD> sepero*
[06:58] <Wiz_KeeD> appending -text
[07:00] <sepero> Wiz_KeeD: you have to scroll down to the bottom  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_boot_options_Permanently_for_an_Existing_Installation
[07:01] <sepero> Wiz_KeeD: It looks like the file to edit is   /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:01] <bazhang> sepero, you never edit that directly
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> the file to alter is /etc/default/grub
[07:02] <bazhang> sepero, there are quite explicit warnings about that iirc
[07:03] <Wiz_KeeD> Dr_Willis, I need to add something there then because there is not much information
[07:03] <nrdb> how do I tell if a xen vm is running pv or hvm mode?
[07:04] <sepero> bazhang: someone might want to spend some more time editing the wiki to make these things clear
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> Wiz_KeeD:  the forums and wiki pages give a lot of documation
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> Wiz_KeeD:  what exactly are you changeing?
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[07:06] <sepero> I'm more used to the old grub
[07:06] <sepero> *familiar
[07:06] <Timtimo> Morin'
[07:06] <Timtimo> Have a little question again... Is there a known bug in Ubuntu 12.04 with gnome transparent panels?
[07:07] <Wiz_KeeD> /etc/default/grub Dr_Willis
[07:08] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/8356491
[07:08] <Timtimo> got it
[07:08] <Timtimo> ty
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> Wiz_KeeD:  and what are you wanting to change?
[07:10] <Wiz_KeeD> display terminal infromation from the seccond I boot ubuntu :)
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> and that setting is what one?
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> you want to use text mode?  or what exactly?
[07:10] <Wiz_KeeD> That's what I don't know, doesn't appear to be there
[07:10] <Wiz_KeeD> if that's what it means yeah I guess
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> 'quiet splash' -> try 'noquiet nosplash text nofb'  in that file and rerun 'sudo update-grub'
[07:12] <Wiz_KeeD> and uncomment it? are you sure?
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> no.. you Change the line
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> it should allready be uncommented as far as i have seen
[07:14] <wiiw> Dr_Willis: how to boot like gentoo : xxx  ...  [ok]
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> wiiw:  no idea. gentoo uses radically differnt boot scripts.
[07:14] <wiiw> oh.
[07:15] <Wiz_KeeD> what is this? Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-30-generic
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="noquiet nosplash nofb text"
[07:16] <sepero> Wiz_KeeD: You can add the line Dr_Willis wrote at the end of the file
[07:16] <Wiz_KeeD> i just changed that one
[07:16] <Wiz_KeeD> I'll reboot to see what happens
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> that file seems to have been altered its not looking like my ubuntu default /etc/default/grub
[07:16] <sepero> Wiz_KeeD: ok. it obviously can't have # at the front
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> did you rerun update-grub?
[07:16] <Wiz_KeeD> I have commented that Dr_Willis
[07:16] <Wiz_KeeD> yes sir
[07:17] <wiiw> Dr_Willis: need put nofb before text ?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> dosent matter
[07:19] <Dr_Willis>  nofb = disables the framebuffer
[07:21] <IamTrying> Is this package applicable for 64-bit, no description showing either is it 32/ or 64-bit? "apt-cache show linux-headers-3.2.0-41"
[07:22] <fidel> i need to check a local html file if all hrefs have valid/existing targets. any idea how to do so? i.e. using lynx or similar?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> !headers
[07:23] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis, i am in a kernel 3.5 i know kernel 3.5 crashing my system and i know 3.2.0.-41 is the stable for my can and i know that i have to install. So image is installed
[07:23] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis, but my uname -a is still showing 3.5
[07:24] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis, if i now do apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)   that is wrong in my case
[07:24] <IamTrying> Because i do not want to live in 3.5 kernel
[07:24] <IamTrying> my kernel is 3.2
[07:25] <Wiz_KeeD> thank God i've learned a little bit of linux otherwise I would have been in the sack now
[07:26] <Wiz_KeeD> It stopped loading the GUI and I was faced with just the terminal
[07:26] <IamTrying> Is this correct to have 3.2 ? $ apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic  linux-headers-3.2.0-41-generic linux-headers-3.2.0-41
[07:26] <IamTrying> Cause last time ikonia instructed me and it was failed
[07:26] <Wiz_KeeD> haha :))
[07:26] <IamTrying> :)
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> uname -r prints out the version #
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> so replace it with whatever # you need
[07:28] <sepero> Wiz_KeeD: sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[07:28] <IamTrying> OK  - Dr_Willis , last question bugging my brain. Why would i install in 64-bit Ubuntu this two packages? linux-headers-3.2.0-41-generic linux-headers-3.2.0-41
[07:28] <Wiz_KeeD> nah, to hell with that sepero i'm done :))
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> Wiz_KeeD:  thats what text mode does.
[07:28] <sepero> Wiz_KeeD: kk
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> !text
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> Wiz_KeeD:   "text only mode" :)    'sudo service lightdm' to start lightdm
[07:29] <Wiz_KeeD> I just wanted the gui to stop showing on boot so I get the loading ... [OK]. which i did get but not instantly, there was a 3 seccond pause with the purple background until that came in
[07:29] <Wiz_KeeD> I just commented the line leave it be XD
[07:29] <sepero> Dr_Willis: I think Wiz_KeeD just wants to see linux kernel and bootup info, then boot into regular xwindows
[07:30] <Wiz_KeeD> yep that is...not sure about the xwindows, what's that? :))
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> lightdm is a service and CAN start up  befor you have all the boot messages
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> Wiz_KeeD:  sounds like you sould go play/learn up on some more basic stuff of linux. :) and leave twiddling with things that canbreak your system for later.
[07:30] <sepero> Wiz_KeeD: xwindows/xorg/xserver = unity or kde or whatever desktop
[07:31] <Wiz_KeeD> heh, yeah i'm good for now :)
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> grub2 is worth reading up on and learning however.  just in case
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> but it can get rather obscure if you dont understand the other parts of the syste
[07:31] <Wiz_KeeD> Still got a lot to learn, but at least I have a somewhat decent base
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> system
[07:31] <Wiz_KeeD> And I'm not toally lost when something bad happens, can track it down a bit and all that
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> my ssd based system boots so fast i cant even read the messages
[07:32] <Wiz_KeeD> hahah :))
[07:32] <Wiz_KeeD> Yeah, I'd love a ssd as well :-<
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> the bios takes longer to post..
[07:32] <sepero> Wiz_KeeD: if you're not afraid of the terminal, you're already ahead of most ppl
[07:32] <Wiz_KeeD> nah, i love the terminal, would use as often as possible :X
[07:32] <Wiz_KeeD> I don't even edit files in gui, i like to vim :X
[07:32] <IamTrying> Is this the correct line? set timeout=${GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT:--1}
[07:33] <IamTrying> set timeout=${GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT:--1}   to set -0 ?
[07:33] <sepero> I used to be an emacs pro. Nowadays I just use nano  lol
[07:34] <ihre> vim <3
[07:34] <makara> hi. If I place a window using a keyboard shortcut (ccsm, grid utility), then when I press F11 to fullscreen, it doesn't work. If I place the window, stretch it slightly, and then F11, it goes into fullscreen fine.
[07:35] <makara> sepero, I use a command line and geany
[07:36] <sepero> geany <3
[07:36] <sepero>   ;)
[07:37] <IamTrying> Everytime i boot, system boot to MemTest86 v4.20 not Ubuntu. And if i press shift key i do not get GRUB
[07:37] <sepero> makara: it would seem to be a bug where your window manager is intercepting the F11 key
[07:37] <IamTrying> set timeout=${GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT:--1}  to set timeout=${GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT:-0}  and update-grub
[07:37] <IamTrying> How can i go to Grub and boot in Ubuntu ?
[07:38] <IamTrying> This happen Twice , ikonia and now myself again. Its a BUG in Grub menu selection.
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> only time ive seen it boot to memtest by default is when someone accidently removed all their kernels ;0
[07:39] <sepero> IamTrying: perhaps remove memtest from the boot list?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> press and hold shft.. or set the grub configs to not auto-hide grub
[07:39] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis, no i have not removed kernel, i switch the Debug kernel boot to value 3 which is my kernel 3.2 not memtest
[07:40] <IamTrying> sepero, ? how ? i have every boot instantly MemTest86 scree
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> grub starts counting at 0 for that - dosent it? so 3 would be the 4th menu utem
[07:40] <IamTrying> sepero, ? how ? i have every boot instantly MemTest86 screen, no boot menu
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> or sm i backwards on that
[07:40] <sepero> Dr_Willis: i believe you are correct
[07:41] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis, even my 3 was wrong it should have booted in Ubuntu 3.2 recovery mood not memtest
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> you should still get the grub menu if you press and hold shift
[07:41] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis, this is not first time it failed, ikonia also have seen this and myself i have done this and its like 10th time the boot failed and booting to wrong kernel or boot menu. Is this a BUG?
[07:42] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis, that is the problem i am not getting Grub menu before reboot i did this: set timeout=${GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT:-0}
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> ive never sene it happen tome. and cant recall seeing anyone else  mention it in here
[07:43] <IamTrying> 1) reboot 2) pressing brute force shift key or holding shift key 3) still boot to Memtest86
[07:44] <IamTrying> How can i on this situation get Grub screen at-least which is not showing at all ?
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> so you used the bash command   'set   timeout ......'   but dident rerun 'sudo update-grub' ?
[07:44] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis, i did update-grub after changing the /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/00_header
[07:44] <sepero> IamTrying: Remove memtest?  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17787/clean-up-the-new-ubuntu-grub2-boot-menu/
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> perhaps it would be best to use a  live cd and change them back. and be sure grub is unhidden
[07:45] <IamTrying> sepero, GOD, i wish i can at-least get the GRUB Screen first. Without that screen i cant do anything.
[07:45] <ubuntu> #unrEVOkedtest
[07:46] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis, Can you please advise so as of this moment 1) i am putting LiveCD now 2) what next? i do not want to lose my whole existing setup in the disk
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> you dont losoe your setup because of grub.. you fix grub. ;)
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> there should be some guides on reinstalling grub from a live cd. or restore the files and use the boot-repair tool
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> !fixboot
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[07:47] <sepero> !fixgrub
[07:47] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis, again wired. 1) i put CD-ROM liveCD 2) it straight showing me booting to Ubuntu in LiveCD
[07:47] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis, should i boot in LiveCD or i should had a Grub screen of LiveCD?
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> live cd dosent have a grub screen as far as i know.
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> its using syslinux
[07:49] <IamTrying> OK - Thank you Dr_Willis it was perfect instructions, which i was unable to fix this issue and was very confusing. now clear thank you, have a nice morning.
[07:49]  * Dr_Willis closes the ticket
[07:50] <sepero> lol
[07:52] <kristal> I have 2 programs installed, when i run foo in terminal is runs bar but I want foo to run... how do I get the right bin to fire off i set .bashrc and that did nothing even though if i echo the value it's right
[07:52] <bazhang> !details | kristal
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> give the full path to the one yu want to run?
[07:52] <vlt> kristal: First check with `which foo`
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> 'set .bashrc to do/be what exactly?
[07:54] <kristal> The program that runs when i run foo is in the place basically all bins are, /bin, but I want to run a bin from /home/me/project/bin
[07:54] <aeon-ltd> talkin bout alias?
[07:54] <kristal> I need to toggle between the two
[07:54] <aeon-ltd> kristal: why don't you just have different names?
[07:54] <kristal> aeon-ltd: Because software/script expects a specific name.
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> kristal:  set your PATH to have the one you want first.. be the first in the path. OR set an alias of the same name to point to the exact full path
[07:55] <kristal> I'm making a drop-in replacement and right now i'm moving the bin back and fourth by hand...
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> then change the alias as needed
[07:55] <sepero> kristal: temporary solution: alias name="/home/me/project/bin/name"
[07:56] <kristal> Hmm, I guess I could just script an alias toggle...
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> alias an alias toggle
[07:56] <sepero> kristal: Whichever path you put first in $PATH is the first that will be called
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[07:57] <kristal> Dr_Willis: lol yup, alias an alias toggle which checks the alias against my desired alias...
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> or make a soft link, in your bin that you change
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> but that would affect all shells. an alias would be localized to the current shell
[07:58] <kristal> hmm... could toggle a symlink, but if the package updates that'd break things
[07:59] <CoUbuntu> Hello is this the right place for asking about  ubuntu server?
[07:59] <aeon-ltd> #ubuntu-server
[07:59] <aeon-ltd> CoUbuntu: no, see above
[08:00] <auronandace> aeon-ltd: here is acceptable too
[08:00] <kristal> It's funny how much this channel flys at peak, much slower now... almost need 2 ubuntu channels peak
[08:00] <sepero> CoUbuntu: It depends on whether we can answer the question here or not  ;D
[08:01] <aeon-ltd> it's nighttime across the us
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> 4 am here
[08:01] <aeon-ltd> exactly
[08:02] <reisio> used to play a MMOG that would automatically split out a new "room" (arena) whenever the population got to FOO
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> it's 9 in gmt, so students at school, people at work etc
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> and that covers most of the english speaking time zones but aus
[08:03] <nibbler> like the english....
[08:05] <starnix> Hello people
[08:06] <sepero> hi
[08:06] <kristal> Soo SteamOS seems to be an Ubuntu distro... brace for millions of questions
[08:06] <starnix> Is there anyway to install gnome 3.10 on ubuntu 13.04?
[08:06] <bazhang> kristal, no its not
[08:06] <aeon-ltd> that was fast
[08:06] <auronandace> starnix: probaby but it isn't supported here
[08:06] <kristal> starnix: There's a PPA but it's kinda broken, although it works for 13.10, and will work great on 14.04
[08:06] <aeon-ltd> starnix: should be
[08:06] <bazhang> starnix, it's still 3.8
[08:07] <kristal> Ubuntu-gnome beta has .10.... i think
[08:07] <kristal> nops it's .8
[08:07] <aeon-ltd> starnix: if anything anything is installable with the right dependencies it just gets harder to. official repos --> ppas --> pre compiled debs/scripts --> compiliatiion
[08:08] <rosco_y> Does anyone know why the HP Device Manager - Plug-in Installer runs every time I login to my account?
[08:08] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6157801/  - Thank you this was your guide which fixed the problem.
[08:10] <IamTrying> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6157801/ - here this was your fault you have made me confused to select 2 or 4 , you should have mentioned me how to count the menu
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> changes update-grub && update-grub2 <<<---  those 2 commands do the same thing. I think one is an alias to the other ;)
[08:11] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis, OK but system making user confuse which one to use. If you boot the Grub version show not Grub2
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> somt things in grub2 count starting with 0.. some start with 1. its a little bit confuseing at times
[08:11] <kristal> So is Ubuntu going 3.12 or kernel 3.11... i hear 3.11 has some pretty nippy bugs
[08:11] <IamTrying> Dr_Willis, then as a user point of view its confusing which one to always use
[08:12] <sepero> $ ls -l /usr/sbin/update-grub2
[08:12] <sepero> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 May 17  2012 /usr/sbin/update-grub2 -> update-grub
[08:12] <sepero> IamTrying: Use the one that is just  update-grub
[08:12] <Dr_Willis>  ls -l /usr/sbin/update-grub2
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Sep 18 16:44 /usr/sbin/update-grub2 -> update-grub
[08:13] <sepero> They may eventually remove the other
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[08:13] <IamTrying> OK - Great sepero . From now on i will forever use update-grub only. Because its standard and organized to use just one. Thank you much clear now
[08:13] <flo1546796> hi, have anyone ever setut virtual keyboard on textfield event on ubuntu 13.04 ?
[08:13] <flo1546796> setup*
[08:17] <rosco_y> Does anyone know why the HP Device Manager - Plug-in Installer runs every time I login to my account?
[08:18] <aeon-ltd> well is it in your startup itema
[08:19] <Dr_Willis>    /etc/xdg/autostart/  or ~/.config/autostart  perhaos
[08:21] <sepero> rosco_y: Did you buy your system with Ubuntu preinstalled?
[08:22] <kristal> So gnome is good again, weird, but good... like kde... but with an obese window bar
[08:23] <sepero> kristal: ha
[08:23] <jnhghy> anybody knows where is in hylafax the setting for the period of time the faxes are saved?
[08:24] <sepero> kristal: maybe gnome will one day climb back to the top, but i'm not hopeful
[08:24] <kristal> sepero: gnome is the first to wayland, but kde is still far ahead
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> jnhghy:  try 'locate hylafax' and see if you can find a config
[08:26] <jnhghy> Dr_Willis: I found a folder "config" in var/spool/hylafax this has about >60 files in it, I tried to use grep to search for 7 but havent found anything related to time period, should it be in /etc/ or something?
[08:27] <kristal> jnhghy: Does it hide any stuff on your user folder?
[08:27] <jnhghy> kristal: what do you mean?
[08:28] <kristal> jnhghy: http://www.hylafax.org/content/Man_Pages_6.0.6 Oh god the documentation has no organization.
[08:29] <jnhghy> Dr_Willis: I've found hyla.conf and hfaxd.conf in /etc/hylafax but no mention of time period in them...
[08:29] <rosco_y> sepero: ty, no I didn't
[08:32] <IamTrying> Is there any package available for: apt-cache search cefpython  not found ( https://code.google.com/p/cefpython/wiki/PyGTK )
[08:32] <jnhghy> kristal: thanks for the link, but these are not the files I found under /var/spool/hylafax, I'm guessing I have to search for them... but they are not under /etc/hylafax either... will keep searching, thanks again
[08:33] <kristal> jnhghy: I wonder if they have an irc...
[08:34] <jnhghy> kristal: I wonder if sarcasm is the result of too much support on irc :)...
[08:34] <kristal> Everyone should use IRC, and every project have a channel.
[08:36] <kristal> Microsot cororate support, $400 a month, no IRC, only crappy email, and indians using RDP.
[08:39] <jokoon> hello
[08:40] <jnhghy> kristal: I didn't want to upset you, I just find it funny that everybody offering support gets sarcasm ... it happens to me too ... I really appriciated your link.
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> id  bet its a setting not shown by default in the files in /etc/ jnhghy
[08:41] <jokoon> I added some broadcom proprietary driver in the additionnal drivers tab in the synaptic settings, but when I click on apply change, it gets stuck
[08:41] <jokoon> can someone help me ?
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> the man pages may mention the setting  jnhghy
[08:41] <jnhghy> Dr_Willis: thanks for the suggestion, i'm in the man pages now...
[08:43] <devilmaycry> who can help me
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[08:45] <devilmaycry> I  can't shutdown my ubuntu
[08:45] <Timtimo> Hey :b
[08:45] <Timtimo> me again... Someone running CompizConfig with Ubuntu? :)
[08:45] <devilmaycry> always restart or just log off
[08:46] <Timtimo> talking to me? :D
[08:46] <Timtimo> my problem is, that I'd like to use transparent panels, they are working but the menus are still grey :/
[08:47] <Timtimo> And every setting I'm changing in CompizConfig aren't working
[08:47] <devilmaycry> :/
[08:47] <levo> i need a GUA software for data recovery
[08:48] <levo> ubuntu 12.04
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> not sure you can do transparent menus. Never really tried.  #compiz may have some suggestions Timtimo
[08:48] <kristal> levo: What type of partition you trying to recover?
[08:48] <levo> kristal: windows 7 (usb drive)
[08:48] <Timtimo> hey Willis, thanks for answer.. searched for it a long time and tried much settings but not even one is working
[08:49] <kristal> levo: NTFS or FAT?
[08:49] <Timtimo> its like that it isn't active
[08:49] <levo> kristal: not sure
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> Timtimo:  are you refering to gnome-shell? or using gnome classic mode? or  unity and the global-menus
[08:49] <kristal> levo: what does gparted say about the flash drive?
[08:50] <Timtimo> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 and running Gnome without effects
[08:50] <Timtimo> the light design one...
[08:50] <levo> kristal: fat32
[08:51] <kristal> Timtimo: 12.04, man, you don't know how much better gnome is these days, 13.10 is nice.
[08:51] <Timtimo> i tried 13.10 but at this time i didn't know how to install gnome :b
[08:51] <kristal> Timtimo: You'll like this: http://ubuntugnome.org/
[08:51] <jokoon> can someone explain to me why synaptic doesn't want to start in admin mode ?
[08:52] <kristal> jokoon: have you tried to sudo synaptic in terminal?
[08:52] <Timtimo> the name sounds well (was this correct? :D
[08:52] <Timtimo> )
[08:52] <caraconan> Hi there. Can somebody please clarify what will happen in my case if I run 'sudo do-release-upgrade'? http://paste.debian.net/46339/ Apparently my ubuntu server is up to date
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: why use it when software centre is default installed?
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> caraconan: you will upgrade to the next release
[08:52] <kristal> ActionParsnip: I can guess - synaptic is a very powerful tool compared to software centre.
[08:52] <jokoon> ActionParsnip, eclipse cdt is not in software centre
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> caraconan: if you are on LTS, it wil search for the next LTS, assuming you haven't edittedc configs
[08:53] <kristal> caraconan: Do you have PPAs?
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> kristal: they both install and remove packages, how is on more powerful?
[08:53] <caraconan> PPA? I don't know sorry
[08:53] <jokoon> kristal, it worked before, why doesn't it now ?
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: synaptic uses the same package system as software centre
[08:53] <caraconan> At the moment the only thing I did is to manually upgrade packages, nothing else
[08:54] <levo> kristal: datarecovery - usb disk - fat32
[08:54] <caraconan> My current version is Ubuntu server 12.04 (Quantal)
[08:54] <RogueCoder> hello
[08:54] <reisio> 'lo
[08:54] <Timtimo> but i cant reinstall it another time .8
[08:54] <kristal> caraconan: If you have any custom repos you'd have to update them before dist upgrading... you know the next LTS is 14.04, really nice, 6 months away though...
[08:54] <jokoon> ActionParsnip, I cant find eclipse cdt with the lubuntu software centre
[08:54] <cfhowlett> caraconan: false. 12.04 is NOT quantal.  verify your data
[08:54] <Timtimo> :(
[08:54] <cfhowlett> !quantal
[08:55] <caraconan> Wel,, 12.10 then
[08:55] <caraconan> lsb_release is not working
[08:56] <kristal> levo: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery for some info
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> caraconan: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[08:56] <kristal> levo: Also, before you mess with recovery, you may want to rip the raw data from the drive.
[08:57] <Timtimo> So I'm back guys
[08:57] <Timtimo> Is there another way to set the menus transparent
[08:57] <Timtimo> ?
[08:57] <caraconan> Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[08:57] <kristal> jokoon: Are there any processes running that use the package manager? sometimes that prevents syn from running, try starting it from terminal, report result
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> caraconan: then it's quantal. quantal is not LTS
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> caraconan: if you run:  sudo do-release-upgrade   you will upgrade to Raring which is EOL in January 2014, Quantal is EOL in July 2014.
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> caraconan: strange you are not using 12.04 for a server
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> caraconan: 12.04 is LTS and EOL in April 2017
[09:00] <cfhowlett> caraconan: LTS is highly preferred for server use ...
[09:00] <caraconan> ActionParsnip: thanks, I need to learn a little bit more about Ubuntu release policies
[09:00] <kristal> LTS is great for server, but sometimes you need the newer software...
[09:01] <caraconan> So if I don't move my release, in Feb 2014 if I try a package upgrade nothing will happen, right?
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> caraconan: every 2 years in APril there is an LTS
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> caraconan: you can upgrade from 13.04 t 13.10 next month, then to 14.04 LTS in April next year
[09:02] <caraconan> Thanks a lot everybody for the information
[09:03] <Wiz_KeeD> Easiest way to add a new user to sudoers?
[09:03] <Wiz_KeeD> and make a new user
[09:03] <RogueCoder> i'm having some issues here .. trying to install ssmtp but it's not really working out :P
[09:03] <RogueCoder> http://pastebin.com/C3zWgQpF here's my attempt
[09:03] <Wiz_KeeD> adduser user then adduser user sudo?
[09:03] <cfhowlett> !adduser|Wiz_KeeD:
[09:04] <RogueCoder> sais that libgnutls-openssl27 requires libgnutls26.. but libgnutls26 sais it's already up to date
[09:04] <RogueCoder> i've tried apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[09:04] <cfhowlett> RogueCoder: apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:05] <Wiz_KeeD> now a better question, how do you rename a user?
[09:05] <RogueCoder> cfhowlett: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:10] <SDr> hi, I've got nginx recompiled from source, however after system reboot, it's not coming up automagically, even though there's an nginx file in /etc/init.d any ideas what I should be poking at?
[09:10] <SDr> last line on boot screen is /etc/rc2.d/S21sendmail: 1287: /usr/sbin/sendmail-msp: not found
[09:10] <SDr> [ OK ]
[09:10] <SDr> /etc/init.d/nginx start    works, though, so, wth?
[09:11] <omg_scout> SDr: stupid answer, but sometimes helps: did you enable the script?
[09:11] <SDr> omg_scout, what specifically do you mean by enable?
[09:11] <omg_scout> Did you add it to runlevel
[09:11] <Lunar_Lamp> SDr: just having a script in /etc/init.d will not autmatically start it at boot, you need to add that script to the relevant runlevel.
[09:12] <Wiz_KeeD> How do I permanently remove a user and it's home directory?
[09:12] <SDr> no. how can I do that?
[09:12] <omg_scout> SDr: update-rc.d nginx defaults
[09:12] <Lunar_Lamp> e.g. update-rc.d nginx defaults
[09:12] <Lunar_Lamp> (to add it to the default runlevels, which is most likely what you want)
[09:12] <SDr>  System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/nginx already exist.
[09:12] <Wiz_KeeD> sudo deluser –remove-home username ?
[09:14] <frostrop> my firefox keeps crashing on some pages (like this: http://goo.gl/CJVfzn ). is this a flash-plugin issue?
[09:14] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys how can i get wifi direct to work with ubuntu 12.04?
[09:14] <Psil0Cybin> i have a laptop and im connected to the wireless network
[09:15] <Psil0Cybin> i want to do this to transfer a file off my android to my laptop
[09:19] <jokoon> so ubuntu doesnt have a archive manager by default which supports 7z files
[09:19] <Wiz_KeeD> don't think so
[09:19] <reisio> jokoon: file-roller should just fine
[09:20] <DJones> !7zip | jokoon
[09:20] <reisio> and also probably ark and xarchiver
[09:20] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin: take the easy way.  install airdroid on your phone and transfer away
[09:20] <RogueCoder> can it be that it doesn't want to install libgnutls26 2.12.20-7 because I have something depending on 2.12.14-5?
[09:20] <reisio> you would have to make sure p7zip were installed, of course
[09:21] <jokoon> I had many bugs with lubuntu, is lubuntu community supported ? what is a lxde distrib which has the best support ?
[09:22] <jokoon> for a macbook pro ?
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu wull be an official LTS i think in the next lts  cycle.
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: install unp and you can extract archives with a single command
[09:22] <reisio> jokoon: bugs?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: you will need unace to extact ace files
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive really noticed many bugs in lubuntu. ;)
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> cant think of any actually
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> <3 lubuntu
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: probably due to no Compiz stinking the place up
[09:23] <auscompgeek> yeah, that's pretty much why
[09:23] <jokoon> for example I wanted to install an additionnal driver, I had it stuck several times for no reasons
[09:23] <cfhowlett> !mac|jokoon: macs and ubuntu aren't always 100% .... not a bug, but the reality
[09:23] <reisio> haven't seen an ace file in ages
[09:23] <RogueCoder> when running apt-get check i doesn't give me any info about broken packages
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> reisio: yeah, used to be a thing in the early 2000s
[09:24] <jokoon> isn't a distrib which is recommended for macs ?
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> jokoon:   use the jocky-cli app perhaps
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> RogueCoder: try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[09:24] <reisio> jokoon: using any other DE with the same version of Ubuntu would've had the same driver issue, if indeed that's what it was
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> jokoon:  or just determine the package name and use the package manager tool to install it
[09:24] <reisio> 7z supports so much that folk don't use anymore :)
[09:24] <jokoon> reisio, DE ?
[09:24] <reisio> desktop environment (LXDE, GNOME, KDE, etc.)
[09:25] <RogueCoder> keeps telling me I held broken packages, but apt-check returns nothing
[09:25] <jokoon> reisio, oh ok
[09:26] <jokoon> other question I had "france" in the repo download location, I can't put france back up, only download locartions under france
[09:26] <MACscr> Shouldnt these networkign settings work? http://hastebin.com/yanuriseyu.cpp. I just dont get why i cant access it through ssh anymore externally, but it can get to the internet fine through eth0. i didnt change any settings on eth0, just added settings for the secondary nic.
[09:28] <Psil0Cybin> thats it cfhowlett
[09:28] <Psil0Cybin> airdroid?
[09:31] <jokoon> other question: I use the touchpad, and often I touch it while typing and it messes up what I type, isn't there something to detect those mistakes ? under mac it doesn't happen...
[09:31] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin: yep.  it's in google play sotre
[09:32] <cfhowlett> jokoon: you might be able to alter the keypad/mouse settings sensitivity
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: thats because the MAc OS is designed specifically for your hardware
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: its why you pay more for a mac
[09:33] <jokoon> ActionParsnip, I use the same macbook, isn't there a better driver for the touchpad ?
[09:33] <jokoon> or some settings in ubuntu
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: have you tried enabling the disable touchpad while I type
[09:33] <jokoon> where is this setting
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: under mouse settings maybe....
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> ive seen 'disable touchpad on typing'  but it dosent work on every laptop ive had ubuntu on
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> like this netbook.
[09:34] <jokoon> ActionParsnip, no it's not there
[09:35] <hello231> hello i was just wondering why i downland sooo slowly now row Ubuntu servers,PS i have fiber Internet,just a stupid comment bu hello,:)
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: used google, took me 3 seconds to find
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-help/mouse-disabletouchpad.html
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> i definatly have a 'disable touchpad on typeing' here on xubuntu
[09:36] <cfhowlett> hello231: torrent is better usually faster ...
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/ubuntu-automatically-disable-touchpad.html
[09:36] <Ascavasaion> Latest LTS release is 13.04?  How do I upgrade to it please?  Thank you.
[09:37] <cfhowlett> !lts|Ascavasaion:
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: 13.04 is not LTS
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: 13.04 is EOL in January 2014
[09:37] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: Thank you.
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[09:37] <hello231> cfhowlett thanks
[09:38] <jokoon> seems hacky... :/
[09:38] <cfhowlett> hello231: no problem ..
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: how so?
[09:38] <jokoon> the shell script thing
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: its a great feature so you dont accidently knock the touchpad while you are typing
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: how is that hacky?
[09:39] <jokoon> the link you gave me on webupd8
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: its just a script that reads the state then turns the setting to the other option. How is that hacky?
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: there is this which is prettier
[09:41] <jokoon> ask any non programmer. that's not a problem I'll try to do eithout
[09:41] <jokoon> without
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> johttp://lifehacker.com/5843207/touchpad+indicator-for-ubuntu-lets-you-quickly-enable-or-disable-a-laptop-touchpad
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: but its essentially the sam thing, just pretty
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: is the indicator way 'hacky' as well?
[09:42] <jokoon> I want the touchpad to be disabled when I type
[09:42] <hello231> i was just thinking instaling it bekuse i have a lot of crazy friends that is on the computer and doing crazy things
[09:42] <jokoon> automatically
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: then use the setting. Its a feature of your OS
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: search the web and you'll find guides
[09:43] <jokoon> ActionParsnit in itp, I use lubuntu, it's no
[09:43] <jokoon> ActionParsnip, I use lubuntu, its not in it
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=lubuntu+disable+touchpad+as+I+type&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&gws_rd=cr&ei=1wFEUsGqDZH07Ab7qIHABA
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: LOTS of guides
[09:44] <jokoon> yes I found
[09:44] <jokoon> one
[09:44] <jokoon> earlier, I also earched
[09:44] <jokoon> s
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Mouse#Disable_touchpad_while_typing
[09:45] <jokoon> I already followed that one
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> !inf gpointing-device-settings
[09:45] <jokoon> don't know if I have to reboot or log out
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1695470  you can do it in xorg.conf
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?t=31591&f=8
[09:48] <jokoon> he has sensitivity problems
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: you can see what I am doing right...just search the web and you will get links. That is literally all I am doing
[09:50] <jokoon> ... I already found stuff before you told me to search, I just asked my question first
[09:50] <fudus> (try lubuntu's channel instead)
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: did you check the mac documentation for ubuntu as well?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> !mac
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: they may have tweaks to make the OS run better on the hardware
[09:51] <fudus> it is an option in main ubuntu's mouse settings if you are wondering, so it is lubuntu's problem
[09:51] <jokoon> why lucid ? does it mean 10.04 is better for my mac than 13.04 ?
[09:52] <jokoon> I have a 5,5 macbook
[09:52] <fudus> go to lubuntu's channel and ask
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: let me see
[09:53] <quietone> hi, I can't ssh from ubuntu server to ubuntu desktop, all 12.04
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> jokoon: seen this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-5/Precise
[09:54] <quietone> asking for passphrase
[09:54] <rish007> i like i like
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> quietone: is openssh-server installed on the deskop system?
[09:54] <babilen> quietone: Do you, by chance, have the debug output of the SSH connection attempt? ;)
[09:54] <themill> quietone: don't make people wade through the same game again -- please offer information without people having to beg for it
[09:55] <babilen> quietone: And yes, we've been through all of this in #debian, just offer all information and links to the relevant pastebins upfront. ActionParsnip will appreciate it.
[09:57] <quietone> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6158100/    http://paste.debian.net/46359/
[09:57] <jokoon> well thanks for the help !
[09:57] <babilen> quietone: You obviously (and rightfully!) set a passphrase for your key. The key you offer (cf. "Offering RSA public key: /home/quietone/.ssh/id_rsa") if accepted (cf. "Server accepts key: pkalg ssh-rsa blen 279"), but you have to enter the passphrase for you key.
[09:57] <babilen> s/if/is/
[10:00] <gregor3005> hi, does anybody ever used a wiimote with ubuntu 13? i installed wmgui and tried to connect but it always crashed :-(
[10:01] <gregor3005> ah the module uinput is not loaded
[10:01] <babilen> quietone: Does that answer your question?
[10:02] <quietone> babilen, no
[10:02] <babilen> quietone: How so?
[10:02] <babilen> quietone: (and why didn't you say so immediately?)
[10:02] <quietone> babilen, your answer has changed the question and I'm trying to find the words
[10:03] <babilen> quietone: Okay, let me know once you finished mulling it over in your brain
[10:04] <rhobot> I had a boyfriend named ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[10:04] <rhobot> I had a boyfriend named ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[10:04] <rhobot> I had a boyfriend named ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[10:05] <FloodBot1> rhobot: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:05] <gregor3005> "modprobe uinput" does not help, i give no error but uinput is still not loaded
[10:05] <quietone> babilen, I think I have answered it my self. And besides it is late, a good night sleep will do the rest
[10:06] <quietone> babilen, thank you very much
[10:06] <babilen> quietone: okay: something for free: If you don't want to enter your passphrase over and over again don't decide against using one, but use tools such as ssh-agent and add the key once using ssh-add
[10:07] <fudus> remove it and let everyone connect to it whoo
[10:09] <quietone> babilen, I've made a note of that, thx
[10:09] <quietone> good night
[10:09] <babilen> good night
[10:29] <daya> daya@ubuntu:~$ c=30 daya@ubuntu:~$ readonly c daya@ubuntu:~$ c=50 > /dev/null 2>&1 -bash: c: readonly variable
[10:29] <daya> any idea to remove the readonly warning
[10:31] <auronandace> daya: perhaps ask in #bash
[10:32] <daya> auronandace: ok
[10:41] <BlitzHere> Hi all
[10:41] <BlitzHere> I have this bug
[10:41] <BlitzHere> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1065400
[10:41] <BlitzHere> It says fix committed
[10:42] <BlitzHere> Do I enable the fix by just loading raring proposed repos?
[10:42] <BlitzHere> ANd doing an sudo apt-get upgrade?
[10:42] <kristal> BlitzHere: Maybe there's a PPA with it already compiled, proosed is a good place to look.
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> the fix should eventually make its way into the updated packages BlitzHere  - it may not be in the current updates. it may take some time.
[10:45] <BlitzHere> kristal, Dr_Willis: Ok, I'm going to enable proposed repos and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:45] <BlitzHere> Hope I don't kill my system
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> why would updateing things kill a system  ;)
[10:47] <BlitzHere> Dr_Willis: I've had weird issue with Nvidia drivers and proposed repos last year...
[10:48] <Henric> Vill att enbart 1 grupp skall få tillgång till en mapp (+undermappar). Alltså rwx och resten ska inte ha någon åtkomst. Hur gör jag det lättast?
[10:49] <Henric> Är i terminal så fixar från där :)
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> i cant even really recall ever enabling proposed.. but i tend to stick to the latest releases anyway ;)
[10:49] <Henric> Wrong thread, my bad
[10:50] <BlitzHere> On another note, it says that fix released on ubuntu saucy. Is there anything I can do to get it committed?
[10:52] <lesshaste> when is the next lts version?
[10:52] <DJones> lesshaste: 14.04
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> every 2 years lesshaste  i belive. ;)
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> but i imagine they could alwyas change that.
[10:53] <lesshaste> DJones, do you know that is due?
[10:53] <lesshaste> when that is
[10:53] <lesshaste> Dr_Willis, January?
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> lesshaste:  err.. the version # is the year/month of release
[10:54] <DJones> lesshaste: As the name says , 2014 Month 04
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> No one ever notices that.. ;)
[10:54] <lesshaste> Dr_Willis, oh..thanks!
[10:54] <lesshaste> Dr_Willis, including me :)
[10:54] <lesshaste> DJones, thanks
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> now a dozen people will chime in.. 'Oh! so thats how they get those Numbers!' ;)
[10:55] <lesshaste> I want to upgrade to 64 bit which means I need to reinstall
[10:55] <lesshaste> how can I make sure not to wipe my /home ?
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> Back it up. ;)
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> and put it on a spare partion would be the best way
[10:55] <lesshaste> Dr_Willis, maybe it is on a spare partition already? How do I check?
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> see wht mount says
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> it dosent do that by default. unles syou specifcally told it to
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: did you make a separate partition for /home?
[10:56] <lesshaste> Dr_Willis, /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)  I can't interpret this modern stuff :)
[10:56] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, I can't remember.. it was a looooong time ago
[10:56] <ronin> ls -dv dir, gives 2:owner@:execute:allow, doesn anyone know what this number 2 is there
[10:56] <Dr_Willis>  /dev/mapper? isent that some lvm/raid stuff?
[10:56] <lesshaste> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6158242/
[10:56] <lesshaste> that's my mount
[10:57] <lesshaste> Dr_Willis, not raid for sure
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> thats you rmount for /   not /home
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: mount     will tell you, if not then mount the partition in liveCD and delete every folder except /home and install to the same partition but not set to format
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> if you are using LVM - i thought one feature of LVM was ease to resize the partions. but i dont use lvm. ;)
[10:57] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, that is my mount http://paste.ubuntu.com/6158242/
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> brb
[10:58] <lesshaste> Dr_Willis, right.. I though it was a clever idea at one point
[10:58] <biopyte> hi there ... i'm looking for a screenshot tool (or a trick) that allows be to define a fixed screenshot area size (e.g. 200x200). i have to make fixed sized screenshots everyday and want to avoid the scaling procedure over and over over again, if possible. any idea?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: then you have one partition for / so you will need to arrange this as I said. Probably easiuer to just wipe clean, reinstall then restore user data from your backups
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> biopyte: imagemagick will probably be able to do it
[10:59] <biopyte> the standard gnome screenshot tool is a bit lightweighted.
[10:59] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, I was hoping lvm could do something helpful
[10:59] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, maybe not?
[10:59] <biopyte> ActionParsnip, thx i check it
[11:00] <Guest1361> I want to have the folder /shared/invoices only available to the group finance. I want them to have rwx permissions and none else. How do I do that easiest way?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: not used it
[11:00] <biopyte> ActionParsnip, besides, do we have any other power screenshot tools in the repositories?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest1361: chown root:finance /shared/invoices; chmod 660 /shared/invoices
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> biopyte: yes but they will need mouse input, if this is ok then use them. Shutter is decent
[11:01] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, no problem
[11:01] <biopyte> ok, shutter, thx
[11:01] <Guest1361> Thanks. Can I add -R for recursively?
[11:01] <biopyte> mouse is ok, the area changes but not the size
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest1361: sure
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest1361: its a simple enough set of commands :)
[11:03] <cheesecakes> hello ActionParsnip
[11:03] <cheesecakes> dont have a queston just meant to say hello
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> hi cheesecakes
[11:04] <cheesecakes> since this isnt offtopic will stay away from further conversation
[11:04] <Bo_DK> Hi
[11:05] <cfhowlett> Bo_DK: greetings
[11:05] <Bo_DK> sitting here and trying to get a python script running....
[11:05] <metaphysician> I have an http server serving the contents of xubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso. I am trying to install on a different machine on the same network. I entered manual mirror configuration, but the netboot installer says "failed to download a file from the mirror". /var/log/syslog says "WARNING  bad d-i Packages file".
[11:05] <Bo_DK> been working at it for days
[11:05] <cfhowlett> Bo_DK: ask in #python
[11:05] <fire__> why is that we install postfix and dovecat together and not just postfix ?
[11:05] <Bo_DK> cfhowlett: may i put up the Q first?
[11:05] <Bo_DK> its permission related
[11:06] <Bo_DK> not python in genral
[11:06] <cfhowlett> Bo_DK:   go for it
[11:06] <metaphysician> Why can't the netboot installer fetch the live cd contents and install from there? Or do I need a proper ubuntu mirror?
[11:06] <Bo_DK> switching from angstrom distro it now throws a lot of persission errors
[11:06] <Bo_DK> just a simple script to control a servo on BBB
[11:07] <metaphysician> According to this howto, it should work. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[11:07] <metaphysician> ...you can also install from a local server. One can loop-back mount the installation sources from the .ISO file. ...
[11:08] <Bo_DK> is the default image of ubuntu for BBB more restrictive than angstrom?
[11:08] <Bo_DK> BBB=Beagle Bone Black
[11:08] <cfhowlett> Bo_DK: pretty esoteric query ... NO idea what BBB or angstrom are ...
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> whats the permission errors? we can understand those. ;)
[11:09] <Bo_DK> yeah... let me get those
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> ive never heard of BBB or anstrom either. ;)
[11:09] <Bo_DK> BBB=beagle bone black
[11:09]  * cfhowlett ... thinks "So, it's not must me!"
[11:09] <Bo_DK> angstrom = default distro preloaded on it when they ship
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> my dog was a beagle..  ;)  he liked bones...  but he was brown.
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> No idea what an angstrom is. Other then somthing i slept through in science class.
[11:10] <CatKiller> Usually these embedded Ubuntu distros are heavilly trimmed down, yes
[11:10] <Bo_DK> ubuntu@arm:~$ python servotest.py
[11:10] <Bo_DK> Traceback (most recent call last):
[11:10] <Bo_DK>   File "servotest.py", line 4, in <module>
[11:10] <Bo_DK>     PWM.set_duty_cycle("P9_14", 25.5)
[11:10] <Bo_DK> IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots'
[11:10] <FloodBot1> Bo_DK: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:10] <Bo_DK> ubuntu@arm:~$
[11:10] <CatKiller> What is missing from it?
[11:11] <CatKiller> Sounds like you're simply having a perm issue no?
[11:11] <Bo_DK> yeah... also the reason why i'm here
[11:11] <Bo_DK> cant figure it on my own
[11:11] <CatKiller> What are the perms on that file?
[11:11] <Dr_Willis> so you are running some command/scripot from BBB on a Ubuntu box?
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> is there even a '/sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/' at all
[11:12] <Bo_DK> BBB is a pc if you like the term better
[11:12] <Bo_DK> yes there is
[11:12] <Bo_DK> BBB kind of micro pc... arm cortex based
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> and theres a slots file as well. ;)    thats the name for some special hardware device?
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> bone_capemgr.9 is what?   some special io/device on the bbb?
[11:13] <biopyte> ActionParsnip, shutter is great ... you made my day, thank you.
[11:13] <Bo_DK> yep... you can stack extension boards on it....
[11:13] <BlitzHere> So, I set Ubuntu to autologin because I have a BIOS password set in but a window pops up on reaching the desktop saying the login keyring did not get unloked and asking me to enter my password anyway
[11:13] <Bo_DK> much like an arduini
[11:14] <Bo_DK> arduino
[11:14] <Bo_DK> they are called  capes
[11:14] <Bo_DK> hence capemgr
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> Bo_DK:  sounds like the device is either owned by root, so needs to be accessed as root. or your user Might need to be in some special group to access.
[11:14] <BlitzHere> Can I make to so that I don't have to do that
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> what does   ls -l /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/     show?
[11:15] <BlitzHere> I'd like to enter my password only when I need to make changes to system files
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> BlitzHere:  you can set a blank keyring password
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> when it asked for the keyring password the first time. if you had entered just blank it would not ask again
[11:15] <Bo_DK> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6158287/
[11:15] <fire__> why is that we install postfix and dovecat together and not just postfix ?
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> the seahorse gui tool - lets you manage passwords for it
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> seahorse ->  view --> by keyring ---> set a new login password. (i think) its a KEYRING login password. not the users login password
[11:17] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: What are the perms on that file?
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> Bo_DK:  looks like its all  owned by root and drwxr-xr-x   which means the users can read. but not write.
[11:18] <amcsi_work> hi
[11:19] <amcsi_work> if I wanted to make cli programs that use the entire visible cli area and manipulate that (cli-gui), what do I have to look into?
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> so if the script was ran by root/with sudo rights. it should be able to access them all.
[11:19] <gordonjcp> amcsi_work: curses
[11:19] <Bo_DK> Dr Willis tried sudo in front...
[11:19] <Bo_DK> let me see if i did
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> ncurses :) isent that the term?
[11:19] <gordonjcp> amcsi_work: you mean like the way that dpkg-reconfigure does its UI?
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> good old text-based gui's for the console and terminals
[11:19] <linu> hi i have been using ubuntu 12.04,and i have installed wine on my pc,i would like to install proteus-8,but not only proteus 6,7  ratherthan  8 versions,it did not work properly, can you tell me how to install proteus using wine and is it need any other softwares which are by microsoft ? thanks in advance
[11:20] <amcsi_work> like dpkg-reconfigure, like less, like vim etc
[11:20] <Bo_DK> nah
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | linu
[11:20] <Bo_DK> sudu first same deal
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> !wine | linu
[11:20] <amcsi_work> like those do their ui
[11:20] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: Your script could drop permissions
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> amcsi_work:  ncurses is the normal tool to do fancy text type guis.
[11:20] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: What is your script?
[11:21] <amcsi_work> ah okay, thanks!
[11:21] <amcsi_work> does vim also use curses?
[11:21] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: Try to change the perm to 777 for all
[11:21] <RogueCoder> there must be some way to fix this package problem.. there's tons of stuff I'm unable to install
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> amcsi_work:  its a rather common library that many cli apps use
[11:21] <RogueCoder> all returning the same dependency issue (only with different packages)
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> amcsi_work:  https://www.google.com/search?q=ncurses+examples&client=ubuntu&hs=dBB&channel=fs&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=vhhEUqDlDcfZqQGrzoDACg&ved=0CFAQsAQ&biw=933&bih=874&dpr=1    Ncurses Examples
[11:21] <linu> Dr_Willis, sorry i could'n get you?
[11:22] <Bo_DK> script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6158315/
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> linu:  wine help in #winehq  look at the wine app database to see what apps work in wine
[11:22] <RogueCoder> now I just tried to install ruby-rvm and it complains about "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"
[11:23] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: don't know what PWM does though. I'd say change the perms first, try, and if not working it means that whatever driver s populating this /sys entry is failing
[11:23] <amcsi_work> thanks!
[11:23] <Bo_DK> PWM=Pulse Width Modulation
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> RogueCoder:  done a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' recently?  if not try them and try installing it again.
[11:23] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: In which case, if dmesg is blank
[11:24] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: I know what it means but not what the library does (drop priviledges etc).
[11:24] <CatKiller> So if dmesg is blank
[11:24] <CatKiller> you need to debug the driver I'm afraid (or find somebody who did before)
[11:24] <Bo_DK> should have said that i'm new to linux
[11:24] <Bo_DK> and new to programming
[11:24] <RogueCoder> Dr_Willis: I've done clean, update, upgrade and dist-upgrade several times today
[11:24] <RogueCoder> while trying to solving this issue
[11:24] <CatKiller> The bottom line here is that the "permission denied" might not be an *actual* file permission iossue
[11:24] <CatKiller> but an error the driver returns
[11:25] <CatKiller> when trying to write to this sysfs file
[11:25] <CatKiller> files in /sys are not real "files"
[11:25] <CatKiller> they are functions in kernel drivers that you can access over a "file like" interface
[11:25] <Bo_DK> black speach
[11:25] <Bo_DK> :-D
[11:25] <CatKiller> So you can "configure" kernel drivers or "talk" to them by writing files and reading them
[11:25] <CatKiller> it's a kernel configuration interface
[11:25] <Bo_DK> for me the key issue is to know what to do where to mae it work
[11:26] <lordzett> lo
[11:26] <CatKiller> So try to change the permissions with chmod 777 file
[11:26] <CatKiller> and try again
[11:26] <metaphysician> I think I found a mistake in this wiki article: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet In section "From a local server" the ISO to download and loop-mount should be an alternate image and not a desktop image. Someone please update/correct it.
[11:26] <Bo_DK> on my script?
[11:26] <CatKiller> if this doesn't work, then I'd say intensive google first
[11:26] <Bo_DK> or?
[11:26] <CatKiller> no in the Ubuntu shell
[11:26] <CatKiller> sudo chmod 777 <path_to_file>
[11:26] <Bo_DK> and what file should i do it on?
[11:26] <RogueCoder> Dr_Willis: any ideas? :)
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> metaphysician:  im not sure the alternative image exists any more.
[11:27] <CatKiller> the file that your script reports it has no access to
[11:27] <Bo_DK> ah
[11:27] <CatKiller> "/sys/something/something"
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> RogueCoder:  not really. theres been like 5 people tonight with apt issues.. all fixed by doing the update/upgrade. ;)
[11:28] <Bo_DK> yeah... need to figure which one
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> RogueCoder:  theres some way you can determine why  that package is held. but i cant recall the command
[11:28] <RogueCoder> i've also tried apt-get check
[11:28] <RogueCoder> and it reports no errors
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> Bo_DK:  hard core way would be to do it for everything in   /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/    :) but thats a Little extrme
[11:28] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: It's in the error emssage
[11:29] <Bo_DK> got it
[11:29] <Bo_DK> lets see
[11:29] <metaphysician> !alternate
[11:30] <ObrienDave> !42
[11:30] <Miladiir> :D
[11:30] <metaphysician> so how do I install from the desktop ISO image from a network?
[11:31] <JuJuBee> I just ran apt-get update and get the following errors...  http://pastebin.com/iTTPwbET  I tried adding the key for the fist error and still get them.
[11:31] <Bo_DK> chmod 777 on '/sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots' did not help
[11:31] <Bo_DK> still no access
[11:32] <Bo_DK> why not just remove access control all together
[11:32] <Bo_DK> free access to everything for everyone that can access it
[11:32] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: Same error message?
[11:33] <Bo_DK> yes
[11:33] <CatKiller> try to write to it from the shell using "echo"
[11:33] <CatKiller> first go to root
[11:33] <CatKiller> "sudo passwd root"
[11:33] <CatKiller> set a password for root
[11:33] <CatKiller> and then "su"
[11:33] <CatKiller> enter the password
[11:33] <FloodBot1> CatKiller: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:33] <Bo_DK> ok...
[11:33] <CatKiller> then 'echo 1 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots'
[11:33] <Bo_DK> back in a few
[11:33] <CatKiller> see if you get the same problem
[11:34] <CatKiller> I'd say the driver simply doesn't accept your command
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> you dont need to set a password for root.
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> 'sudo -s' will give you a root shell
[11:34] <ObrienDave> JuJuBee... it looks like you will have to go through all of those and reinstall the gpg keys
[11:34] <CatKiller> Dr_Willis: True true, even better
[11:34] <JuJuBee> ObrienDave: I tried to install a few and re ran update and still get all of them
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> sudo -i    is a little better, uses your user's profile?
[11:35] <Bo_DK> hmm
[11:35] <Bo_DK> root@arm:/home/ubuntu# echo 1 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
[11:35] <Bo_DK> bash: echo: write error: No such file or directory
[11:35] <Bo_DK> root@arm:/home/ubuntu#
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  i never can rember. ;)
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Bo_DK: does the file exist?
[11:36] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: Also this is a known issue
[11:36] <CatKiller> https://github.com/adafruit/adafruit-beaglebone-io-python/issues/17
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> I just see way way to many guides, other disrtos docs, and sites use 'sudo su'  i kepe thinking -s because  sudo su has s's in it
[11:36] <Bo_DK> this is just over my head an understanding
[11:36] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: Use "tab" to make sure you have the right file, maybe I didn't paste it right
[11:36] <Bo_DK> will read that link
[11:36] <CatKiller> What is the version of the adafruit you use? (the library)?
[11:36] <CatKiller> fixed in 0.0.14
[11:37] <CatKiller> 2 month ago which is not that long
[11:37] <Bo_DK> CatKiller: just installed the lib today
[11:37] <Bo_DK> so assume its newest
[11:38] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: From where?
[11:38] <Bo_DK> adafruit
[11:38] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: What version?
[11:38] <Bo_DK> followed their install guide
[11:38] <Bo_DK> dont know
[11:38] <Bo_DK> assume newest since i did install today
[11:38] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: "newest" is really vague
[11:38] <Bo_DK> did this: http://learn.adafruit.com/setting-up-io-python-library-on-beaglebone-black/installation-on-ubuntu
[11:38] <CatKiller> maybe it's the "newest" of the stable
[11:38] <CatKiller> which is 1 year odl :p
[11:39] <RogueCoder> here's a copy/paste of the output when trying to get ruby-rvm installed http://pastebin.com/LDV19ZL6
[11:39] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: By the way, what are the permissions on that file
[11:39] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: Now that you ran "chmod"
[11:39] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: Did they change at all?
[11:39]  * RogueCoder hopes someone would have a look
[11:41] <Bo_DK> CatKiller: how do i make chmod display current premission? tried --help but not clear on it
[11:42] <Miladiir> run info over your file maybe?
[11:42] <Miladiir> or ls-l
[11:42] <Bo_DK> and how do i do a simple update of the lib to 0.0.14 ?
[11:43] <Bo_DK> info command not found
[11:43] <Miladiir> yeah sorry, use ls -l
[11:43] <Bo_DK> ls -L just made it appear green
[11:43] <Miladiir> lowercase l
[11:43] <Bo_DK> yeah
[11:43] <JuJuBee> I tried reinstalling the keys from my gpg errors post and still get errors for all of the same keys.
[11:43] <Bo_DK> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root
[11:44] <JuJuBee> http://pastebin.com/iTTPwbET
[11:44] <Miladiir> thats 777
[11:44] <Miladiir> owned by root of user group root
[11:44] <Bo_DK> funny there is no access still
[11:44] <Miladiir> there we go
[11:44] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: And from a shell if you echo anything do you get "Permission denied"?
[11:44] <Bo_DK> hate security
[11:44] <Miladiir> did you issue whatever you try to do with root privileges? try to do it with sudo again
[11:44] <Bo_DK> root@arm:/home/ubuntu# echo 1 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
[11:44] <Bo_DK> bash: echo: write error: No such file or directory
[11:44] <Bo_DK> root@arm:/home/ubuntu#
[11:45] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: Ok, are you sure you're writing to the correct file?
[11:45] <Miladiir> try sudo echo ........
[11:45] <Bo_DK> same deal
[11:45] <CatKiller> Can you use "tab" to auto complete the file opath
[11:45] <CatKiller> echo 1 > /sys/<press tab> etc
[11:45] <Bo_DK> yes
[11:45] <CatKiller> until you let tab autocomplete "slots" (type "slo"
[11:45] <CatKiller> )
[11:45] <CatKiller> same thing?
[11:45] <Bo_DK> yes
[11:45] <Miladiir> hmmm
[11:46] <CatKiller> That's what the driver replies
[11:46] <Bo_DK> root@arm:/home/ubuntu# sudo echo 1 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
[11:46] <Bo_DK> echo: write error: No such file or directory
[11:46] <Bo_DK> root@arm:/home/ubuntu#
[11:47] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: So maybe you need to echo something valid
[11:47] <Bo_DK> what about disable sercurity?
[11:47] <Bo_DK> ie no check on anything
[11:47] <Bo_DK> no need for it anyway
[11:47] <Miladiir> you eventually have to learn to deal with it
[11:47] <CatKiller> it's not a security issue
[11:47] <CatKiller> try that: echo am33xx_pwm > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
[11:48] <CatKiller> as root yes
[11:48] <Bo_DK> that did go ok
[11:48] <Bo_DK> no errors
[11:48] <CatKiller> or this
[11:48] <CatKiller> echo bone_pwm_P8_13 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
[11:48] <CatKiller> see
[11:48] <CatKiller> not a security issue
[11:48] <FloodBot1> CatKiller: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:49] <Bo_DK> so the issue is?
[11:49] <CatKiller> So the library here is either writing the wrong data (but I don't think so otherwise it would return "No such file or directory"
[11:49] <CatKiller> or it is genuinely missing permissions
[11:49] <CatKiller> in which case you need to find out its version
[11:50] <Bo_DK> considering hiring someone....
[11:50] <Bo_DK> my linux skills stinks
[11:50] <Bo_DK> more than  a skunk
[11:50] <gordonjcp> Bo_DK: what are you trying to do?
[11:50] <Miladiir> i was wondering the same thing
[11:50] <Bo_DK> what i'm trying is to run a python script.... its just not working
[11:50] <Bo_DK> and i cant figure shit out
[11:51] <metaphysician> Is difference between systems using PAE and non-PAE kernel, noticeable?
[11:51] <Bo_DK> dont know what is wrong
[11:51] <Miladiir> have a link?
[11:51] <Bo_DK> yep
[11:51] <Bo_DK> hold on
[11:51] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: By the way, did you checkout the #beaglebone
[11:52] <CatKiller> channel?
[11:52] <Bo_DK> hold on
[11:52] <CatKiller> Pointing them to this link: https://github.com/adafruit/adafruit-beaglebone-io-python/issues/17
[11:52] <elango> i have wrongly mounted the pendrive on home directory,now i cant open the directories under home,somebody help me ya
[11:52] <Bo_DK> http://pastebin.com/seXc2Qdh
[11:53] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: Also in your script can you add (below import): "print Adafruit_BBIO.__version__"?
[11:53] <Bo_DK> CatKiller: yes have been there.. simple answer from them: read teh f.... manual and learn it
[11:53] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: Try that
[11:53] <Miladiir> I cannot help much here as I dont even have a clue what Adafruit is, I guess a devboard?
[11:53] <Bo_DK> Miladiir: a company
[11:54] <Miladiir> Yeah, just look through the manual. Its a pain in the ass, but everyone has to go through that phase of Linux eventually
[11:54] <CatKiller> Bo_DK: What's the version?
[11:54] <Bo_DK> slow down
[11:54] <Bo_DK> i'm not that fast
[11:54] <Miladiir> take your time
[11:55] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:55] <Miladiir> hi
[11:55] <Bo_DK> so add to script: "print Adafruit_BBIO.__version__"?
[11:55] <Bo_DK> without the quotes?
[11:55] <Bo_DK> and without the ?
[11:56] <Miladiir> try it ^^
[11:56] <Bo_DK> inserted raw it gives a syntax error
[11:57] <DJ_U|Laptop> Managed to install 13.04 overnight, but it hangs immediately after login.  Mouse and keyboard inop, no HDD activity/
[11:59] <Bo_DK> anyone up for having a poke in my system?
[12:00] <compdoc> Adafruit? that arudino?
[12:00] <gordonjcp> Bo_DK: which version of Python are you using?  Which distro of Linux?
[12:01] <Bo_DK> Distro: ubuntu
[12:01] <Bo_DK> hardware: BBB
[12:01] <Bo_DK> so no not arduino
[12:02] <Bo_DK> BBB=Beagle Bone Black
[12:03] <gordonjcp> Bo_DK: which version of Ubuntu?
[12:03] <Bo_DK> have no clue
[12:04] <Bo_DK> again i stink regarding linux
[12:04] <gordonjcp> well that's possibly part of the problem
[12:04] <Bo_DK> just wanted to build a tracker platform
[12:05] <gordonjcp> Bo_DK: so, find out exactly what you're running maybe?
[12:06] <gordonjcp> Bo_DK: effectively so far you've given us "I don't know what it is but it doesn't work"
[12:07] <Bo_DK> gordonjcp: yep... cause i dont know anymore and just so damm frustrated
[12:07] <Bo_DK> could give ip and port for ssh....
[12:07] <Bo_DK> that i know too
[12:07] <demon-k2008> Люди здрассте!
[12:07] <omg_scout> Bo_DK: still no luck?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Bo_DK: then how can we know anything, if you don't know...
[12:07] <DJ_U|Laptop> I don't ever remember struggling with linux anywhere close to this.  :(
[12:08] <demon-k2008> Есть кто из России?
[12:08] <gordonjcp> !ru | demon-k2008
[12:08] <demon-k2008>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[12:09] <demon-k2008> join #ubuntu-ru
[12:10] <DJ_U|Laptop> Anyone have an idea as to why 13.04 would freeze upon login?
[12:10] <exnntech> Looking for help and info on Landscape service
[12:10] <omg_scout> DJ_U|Laptop: total freeze?
[12:11] <compdoc> exnntech, never used it, but theres info on the website
[12:11] <omg_scout> DJ_U|Laptop: I mean can you log to text terminals?
[12:11] <exnntech> DJ_U|Laptop: It could be caused by not being able to use Unity!
[12:11] <DJ_U|Laptop> It's a toal freeze, both keyboard and mouse are unresponsive, I have to hit the reset button on the machine
[12:12] <DJ_U|Laptop> total*
[12:12] <omg_scout> DJ_U|Laptop: Laptop?
[12:12] <DJ_U|Laptop> Negative, desktop
[12:14] <omg_scout> DJ_U|Laptop: This is propably hardware. Something unsupported, wrong drivers or broken part
[12:15] <DJ_U|Laptop> I wouldn't doubt it.  I wonder if using a set of commands at the grub loader might be able to somehow get around this.
[12:16] <DIoX|DaZ> 205
[12:16] <omg_scout> DJ_U|Laptop: I would start with taking my gfx card away and then manipulating ram chips
[12:17] <DJ_U|Laptop> gfx card isn't an option, no onboard and I don't have another PCIe GPU I could use.
[12:18] <mn3na3a> guys, anyone can help me with i8kmon configuration file?
[12:18] <tyler_d> !ask
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> DJ_U|Laptop: what GPU do you use?
[12:23] <DJ_U|Laptop> eVga 8800 GTS 640 MB
[12:23] <mn3na3a> what is the best config for i8kmon file
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> DJ_U|Laptop: is the CPU an ivy/sandybridge?
[12:24] <gemma22> Hello everybody. Im going to open a small store to sell shoes and i need a computer for the ticketing, stock system, give invoices to the clients and all that, My question is, may i use free ubuntu to achive that so i dont have to pay microsoft? Is there software in the ubuntu repositories to run a very small bussiness as described and control my stock with barcode scanner and those things? English is my second language, what keywords
[12:24] <JohnVonNeumann>  books4electricians.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> gemma22: yes its totally free
[12:24] <DJ_U|Laptop> no, it is an Intel P35 chipset CPU, Q6600
[12:24] <JohnVonNeumann> does anyone no how 2 reach this blog : books4electricians.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> DJ_U|Laptop: did you install the proprietary video driver or are you yet to do that?
[12:25] <tyler_d> gemma22, that would be a POS system, it stands for Point of Sale, there is a free one, but certainly this is off-topic as it's more related to software, not the Operating System
[12:25] <DJ_U|Laptop> That was one thing I couldn't do during the install, network was down for a bit overnight, but since it's a total hang, I can't do any installs.
[12:25] <mn3na3a> D
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> DJ_U|Laptop: at the login screen, press CTRL+ALT+F1 and login there, run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> DJ_U|Laptop: full upgrades and installs the proprietary nvidia driver
[12:27] <gemma22> oh thank you very much both ActionParsnip, tyler_d. Im happy to hear is possible, i understand the offtopic question to, i thank for the POS nomenclature that will help me search for what i need. Im just updating my old ubuntu and will search and try right away. ty again
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> gemma22: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/incopos/
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> one example
[12:28] <crunchbang> pessoal
[12:29] <tyler_d> gemma22, found through google --> http://sourceforge.net/projects/opensourcepos/
[12:29] <DJ_U|Laptop> do I enter all the commands at once?
[12:29] <gemma22> ty actionparsnip, very nice link, im waiting for the last long term distribution to update and i will download right away
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> DJ_U|Laptop: if you wnat
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> DJ_U|Laptop: each command runs after the other
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> DJ_U|Laptop: using a wired connection will make things easier
[12:30] <gemma22> tyler_d: nice too, and i have some sql experience, i will try both
[12:30] <tyler_d> gemma22, gl
[12:30] <DJ_U|Laptop> It's a desktop, so the only connection is wired.  :)
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> DJ_U|Laptop: cool, easy days
[12:32] <tirengarfio> I want to buy a laptop and install ubuntu, should I have any problem if the computer has windows 8 installed by default? or can I install ubuntu in any laptop?
[12:33] <tyler_d> tirengarfio, efi-boot
[12:33] <gemma22> one other question, i ordered allready the box where the change goes, it seems to be opened automaticly by the computer but it has a cable like a telephone cable, do i have to install an old phone modem in my computer to open the money storage? i though i would be usb or something, im socked with the tipe of conexion the money drawr has
[12:34] <MoleMan> Could someone help me work out why my system doesn't resume from hibernate? I have set the resume= tag in Grub,might it be related to the swap being encrypted? the ouput from blikd for the swap is "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1: (blahblah"
[12:34] <tyler_d> gemma22, it's a telephone cable indeed. :)
[12:35] <gemma22> tyler_d: lol, so i have to call the drawer to be opened? hahaha, i completely dont understand
[12:36] <tyler_d> gemma22, it works on a simple signal from the terminal(computer)
[12:37] <gemma22> tyler_d: i understand, i will learn weather the software im studing can send that signal and install and modem on my computer
[12:43] <gavin__> ...
[12:43] <zotta> hi, i am trying to run apt-get upgrade on "Ubuntu precise (12.04.3 LTS)"
[12:43] <zotta> and it hangs:
[12:44] <cfhowlett> zotta, error messages?
[12:44] <zotta> none
[12:44] <zotta> just hangs
[12:44] <zotta> Setting up udev (175-0ubuntu9.4) ...
[12:44] <cfhowlett> zotta, running upgrade via terminal?
[12:44] <zotta> ssh
[12:45] <cfhowlett> zotta, weird that no error msg came back.  I'd guess a mirror issue ...
[12:46] <tirengarfio> tyler_d, thanks, I will say it in another way: is there any way to test if is possible to install linux in that laptop before removing windows 8?
[12:46] <zotta> the process udev.postinst never terminates
[12:46] <zotta> and uses 0% cpu
[12:47] <tyler_d> tirengarfio, you can boot to a live cd
[12:47] <cfhowlett> zotta, do a kill -9 on that process and run upgrade again ...
[12:47] <zotta> i did a kill (without the -9)
[12:47] <zotta> and it still does not work
[12:48] <tyler_d> tirengarfio, or alternately you could attempt to install it on a usb key or removable hard-disk... from my experience with my little sony vaio it was a pain in the backside to fight through. Mind you that was a few months back now
[12:48] <zotta> will appending -9 change anything?
[12:48] <cfhowlett> zotta, kill -9 will kill it NOW
[12:48] <theadmin> zotta: -9 will send signal 9 (SIGKILL), which will force the termination
[12:48] <gemma22> Im updating my full working 12.04 LTS, P.IV 2.4Ghz, 2GBRAM and a NVIDIA to the 12.10 LTS but i had the advice that my graphic card may not be full supported. This system will be only POS terminal (no games, photoshop...). I do not need full graphics support, do i?
[12:48] <theadmin> zotta: If still fails, try with -SEGV, although that's cheating
[12:49] <zotta> dpkg: error processing udev (--configure):
[12:49] <zotta>  subprocess installed post-installation script was killed by signal (Killed)
[12:49] <theadmin> gemma22: Eh. The desktop might fail to load. Suggest to stay on 12.04 until 2D is properly supported by Unity (next LTS, 14.04, should have support)
[12:50] <zotta> if i run the upgrade again, it halts again
[12:50] <zotta> do i even need tu upgrade udev?
[12:50] <zotta> what the hack is udev for?
[12:51] <zotta> can i somehow tell the package manager to leave out the udev upgrade?
[12:51] <cfhowlett> !udev
[12:51] <gemma22> Theadmin: do u recomend then to abort my update? i still on the phase of downloading packages
[12:51] <theadmin> gemma22: Yeah, I generally suggest to stay on LTS releases unless you really can't wait to see the new features
[12:51] <spacecamp> if you want everything to work the best, is it best to run LTS rather then the latest release?
[12:51] <theadmin> gemma22: You can upgrade directly to 14.04 when it's out
[12:52] <theadmin> spacecamp: See my message to gemma22
[12:52] <spacecamp> cuss my friend said lts is for servers
[12:52] <cfhowlett> !lts|spacecamp, not exactly.
[12:52] <zotta> cfhowlett: could you be more explicit?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> spacecamp, LTS is long term support so is not so cutting/bleeding edge.  packages are designed for stability
[12:52] <theadmin> spacecamp: Generally, LTS releases are very very stable and are suitable for server or enterprise use, as well as usual users who just want a stable system. Regular releases are less stable, but have new features.
[12:53] <theadmin> spacecamp: Honestly, there's no features in 13.04 that aren't in 12.04 that are worth mentioning
[12:53] <gemma22> theadmin: perfect them, i will follow your suggestions, im very happy with my actual features, im not a computer geek. thank you.
[12:53] <cfhowlett> gemma22, is the way to go then.
[12:53] <spacecamp> right, okay.. thanks theadmin
[12:54] <zotta> Can someone tell me how to make apt-get leave out the udev upgrade?
[12:54] <gemma22> wow then im ready to download and test some POS software, thank you! see you around!
[12:54] <cfhowlett> gemma22, I run LTS only so I update only every 2 years instead of every 6 months.  few headaches and my system works great.
[12:54] <spacecamp> zotta, you could use synaptic
[12:54] <spacecamp> and just uncheck what you don't want?
[12:54] <zotta> spacecamp: I have no gui
[12:54] <spacecamp> update then jjust purge what you don't want?
[12:54] <theadmin> zotta: You can hold the package: echo "udev hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[12:54] <DJ_U|Laptop> upgrade portion is running for the most part, smooth, though there was one message regarding x11, but as I'm in text mode, that's a given.  :p
[12:55] <spacecamp> idk, i will let the pros help you : 3
[12:55] <CatKiller> spacecamp: purging udev *might* not be the best idea ;)
[12:55] <spacecamp> lol
[12:55] <CatKiller> also because many packages probably have dependencies on it it would probably purge your entire instal l ;
[12:55] <zotta> theadmin: and how do i undo it, if i ever need to?
[12:55] <spacecamp> right
[12:56] <spacecamp> yeah prolly have a good point lol
[12:56] <theadmin> zotta: echo "udev install" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[12:59] <spacecamp> CatKiller, theadmin :do you guys run ubuntu?
[12:59] <theadmin> spacecamp: I do.
[12:59] <CatKiller> sure
[12:59] <spacecamp> 12/04?
[12:59] <CatKiller> yep
[12:59] <spacecamp> cool
[12:59] <theadmin> spacecamp: Nah, I'm running 13.04, I'm  more of the "latest features" kind of person
[13:00] <spacecamp> oh, okay. idk i was messing around the other day with 13.04 and when i updated the kernal it was a laggy POS
[13:00] <spacecamp> so i think i will run 12.04
[13:01] <spacecamp> downloading it right now to mess around with in a vm
[13:01] <spacecamp> when i ran ubunut 24/7 like 5 months or so ago, i ran 12.04 and it worked great.. so...
[13:01] <spacecamp> ubuntu*
[13:02] <BluesKaj> running any OS in a vm makes it kaggy :)
[13:02] <spacecamp> well, this was not in one
[13:03] <spacecamp> it was barebone
[13:03] <BluesKaj> or laggy as the case may be
[13:03] <spacecamp> idk, could of been alot of things tho
[13:03] <theadmin> spacecamp: 13.04 currently has no 2D support, thus your GPU needs to have 3D acceleration. Being worked on
[13:03] <theadmin> spacecamp: So yeah
[13:03] <spacecamp> i think i will run stable debian,+ubuntu from now on...
[13:03] <wreiner> hi - i want to boot from a logical volume which resides on an encrypted physical volume. but upon booting i don't get to enter my password, instead I'm being dropped to initram shell complaining no root found. when i check my initrd there is no cryptsetup binary in it. does anyone have some hints on that?
[13:04] <spacecamp> ubuntu LTS that is...
[13:04] <bl4ckdu5t> How can I set permissions recursively for all the files and folders in a folder
[13:04] <ronin> what would you recommend OpenJDK or Sun Java
[13:05] <wreiner> i can post all needed information to pastebin without problems
[13:05] <theadmin> bl4ckdu5t: chmod -R blah
[13:05] <BluesKaj> heh, I'm running kubuntu 13.10 beta2 and it's real fast , even on this old clunker
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> ronin: is openjdk gives what you need then use it. There is a PPA for Oracle Java (Sun don't own java now)
[13:05] <theadmin> ronin: OpenJDK works nicely for the most part
[13:05] <spacecamp> nice BluesKaj
[13:05] <spacecamp> all hardware is diff i guesss,
[13:05] <spacecamp> using newist kernal?
[13:06] <spacecamp> stable not beta kernal i mean?
[13:06] <CatKiller> wreiner: Did Ubuntu create and encrypt this LVM LV?
[13:06] <CatKiller> wreiner: Or is that a "home made" install?
[13:06] <wreiner> home made
[13:06] <wreiner> using FAI
[13:06] <CatKiller> wreiner: Because initramfs only contains what is needed to boot Ubuntu
[13:06] <CatKiller> and Ubuntu generates initramfs according to what it *think* it'll need
[13:06] <CatKiller> If this is homemade
[13:07] <BluesKaj> spacecamp:  3.11.0-8-generic #15-Ubuntu
[13:07] <bl4ckdu5t> theadmin: I thought it should be done with "chown"
[13:07] <CatKiller> Ubuntu has no idea you're booting an encrypted partition
[13:07] <CatKiller> and won't include your required stuff
[13:07] <theadmin> bl4ckdu5t: chown changes ownerships. chmod changes permissions.
[13:07] <spacecamp> BluesKaj, thats the kernal thats it comes with out of the box right?
[13:07] <ws2k33> hello i want that my ubuntu machine is able to send out email via an external smtp server how should this be done ?
[13:07] <bl4ckdu5t> theadmin: ok thanks!
[13:07] <CatKiller> you're going to have to generate a new initramfs with http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/update-initramfs.8.html
[13:07] <BluesKaj> yup, thius is a clean install , spacecamp
[13:08] <CatKiller> or this http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/mkinitramfs.8.html
[13:08] <spacecamp> not latest kernal then BluesKaj correct me if i'm wrong tho
[13:08] <CatKiller> And some more info: http://askubuntu.com/questions/103844/how-to-customize-the-initrd-embedded-in-or-coming-with-the-kernel-image
[13:08] <wreiner> CatKiller: hmm ok, but where would i tell ubuntu to include this stuff? I genereated my crypttab, added /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/cryptroot, added the modules to initramfs and built a new one
[13:08] <spacecamp> idk, my friend just always told me to make sure you are running the latest kernal
[13:09] <wreiner> CatKiller: http://pastebin.com/DYEmBf3p
[13:09] <spacecamp> so i try to keep up with all that lol
[13:09] <CatKiller> wreiner: Maybe that wasn't the procedure, like maybe this didn't copy the right binaries
[13:09] <wreiner> CatKiller: this is what i've done so far
[13:09] <BluesKaj> spacecamp:  I don't pay much attn to newest kernel on a dev OS , that's up to the development ppl , I'm a kubuntu-tester
[13:09] <spacecamp> right
[13:09] <wreiner> CatKiller: most certainly there is something missing but all tutorials around google tell me only to do this
[13:10] <CatKiller> wreiner: Sounds like you'd need to add the binaries to the initramdisk as well
[13:10] <spacecamp> i just want my systems to run the best i can make them, and i was told if you want that then you need to keep up with the latest stable kernal
[13:10] <spacecamp> again, correct me if i'm wrong lol
[13:10] <CatKiller> wreiner: Does your ramdisk have cryptpv?
[13:10] <CatKiller> because it will need that according to the cryptroot config
[13:10] <ws2k33> hello i want that my ubuntu machine is able to send out email via an external smtp server how should this be done ?
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> spacecamp: as long as the hardware is all running ok then the kernelis doing its job
[13:11] <BluesKaj> spacecamp:  newest isn't necessarily best , but I'm sure you're aware of that :)
[13:11] <spacecamp> ActionParsnip, agreed.
[13:11] <wreiner> CatKiller: hmm not sure what you mean by that. as far as i understand, that's a name i give the container. could you tell me how to check?
[13:11] <cfhowlett> spacecamp, agt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade   should solve 99% of your upgrade issues plus, perhaps, enabling backports in the repos
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> spacecamp: so you dont need to keep grabbing new kernels
[13:12] <CatKiller> wreiner: Not sure, I have never made custom initramdisks using Debian or Ubuntu
[13:12] <wreiner> CatKiller: also the cryptosetup binaries are missing in the initrd, but i don't know how to tell update-initramfs to include them
[13:12] <CatKiller> 100% homemade ones yes
[13:12] <CatKiller> but that's not the same
[13:12] <spacecamp> right, so if eveything is working like it should.. then i shouldent worry about making sure i have the latest kernal?
[13:12] <cfhowlett> spacecamp, chillax.
[13:12] <CatKiller> wreiner: That's why I was suggesting to make a new initramfs entirely not with udpate
[13:12] <CatKiller> but with create
[13:13] <CatKiller> it's an ext2 image usually
[13:13] <CatKiller> that contains a "skeleton" fs with binaries and such
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> spacecamp: exactly
[13:13] <spacecamp> sweet
[13:13] <CatKiller> usually you make it from a directory that contains the right structure
[13:13] <CatKiller> or you could "edit" your existing one by mounting the image and adding stuff to it
[13:13] <wreiner> CatKiller: sure, but it would break everything on the next kernel update
[13:14] <CatKiller> wreiner: Ye[p
[13:14] <CatKiller> wreiner: Or actually, "maybe"
[13:14] <CatKiller> wreiner: as I said, I have no experience with customizing ubuntu ramdisks
[13:14] <CatKiller> just making full ones
[13:14] <wreiner> CatKiller: ok, thank you anyway
[13:15] <ronin> isn't it a bit weird that my package doesn't include javadoc for example jdk-7u11-linux-x64.tar.gz
[13:15] <ronin> i have oracle's java now
[13:15] <MoleMan> Could someone help me work out why my system doesn't resume from hibernate? I have set the resume= tag in Grub,might it be related to the swap being encrypted? the ouput from blikd for the swap is "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1: (blahblah", using 13.04, with partitions automatically setup by Ubuntu during install
[13:15] <Ceninant> What's the best form of Wine to install for a newbie?
[13:16] <user258467> Hi, I think I have lost Xorg or gdm or the other display manager I am in chroot, could you tell me how do I install Xorg?
[13:16] <MoleMan> Probabl Pinot?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> Ceninant, form?  use the one in the software center.
[13:17] <Ceninant> Play on Linux?
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> user258467: sudo apt-get install xorg
[13:17] <UrielVigilante> Good morning, yesterday i came here to ask help to install bcm4311 on ubuntu 12.04.usb persistent mode. and problem solved, today i came here  again because i cant install bcm4311 on another usb persistent mode ubuntu 13.10, here what i tryed until here :   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6158668/
[13:17] <cfhowlett> Ceninant, you do know that you can install both for free?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !saucy|UrielVigilante,
[13:17] <Ceninant> Both together?
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Ceninant: play on linux is a GUI for Wine. Wine is still doing the work. Play on linux is not a 'form of wine'
[13:18] <cfhowlett> UrielVigilante, 13.10 is beta ...
[13:18] <UrielVigilante> cfhhowlett: please give me a tip
[13:18] <Pici> UrielVigilante: ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:18] <UrielVigilante> should i regret to 13.04 to make it work ?
[13:18] <UrielVigilante> thanks any way
[13:19] <user258467> ActionParsnip, it seems I have already xorg but I can't log in in gui to my computer and as it is encrypted I can't login at all, how is named the new GDM, I think I have to reinstall it
[13:19] <PervMonk> Good day all. Ever since the last update, my one USB drive which normally got mounted on /media/FreeAgent GoFlex Drive is now mounted as /media/FreeAgent GoFlex Dri - without the "ve"
 this is a mission as my sickbeard has episodes indexed with the original name
 how can I change this back via command line?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> PervMonk: unmount it then you can label the partition
[13:21] <ronin> how should I install javadoc, I see it's already in /usr/lib/jvm/jdk.../bin directory. should I copy it to /usr/bin/java or make a link to /usr/bin or hmm
[13:21] <ronin> why isn't it even created as default
[13:21] <DJ_U|Laptop> The nvidia driver download appears complete, going to reboot, since there were some kernel updates and will see if it works.  :)
[13:23] <JoBArTe_Skuld> hey guys
[13:24] <JoBArTe_Skuld> its possible to have a mail notification if is logged succesfully on ssh?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> JoBArTe_Skuld: you can have a watch on /var/log/auth.log and email successes etc
[13:27] <DJ_U|Laptop> Something's still not right, got an internal error, it's in usr/bin/Xorg
[13:28] <JoBArTe_Skuld> [ActionParsnip]: thanks
[13:34] <i_eat_my_nikname> hello
[13:35] <Letalis> so on a 64 bit system how possible is it for opengl to run fine on 32 bit applications but not on 64 bit ones, because thats what it looks like to me right now :)
[13:36] <Letalis> glxgears and kdes desktop compositiong are pretty much a slideshow and cease to work respecitvely. my x3 game on steam? runs flawless.
[13:36] <i_eat_my_nikname> hello friends i cant do any one exe with bundle options (py2exe) , always returned  more modules are missing error :(
[13:37] <ronin> what could be wrong >javadoc Error occurred during initialization of VM Could not reserve enough space for code cache
[13:38] <ronin> I created to symlink to javadoc to /usr/bin/
[13:38] <i_eat_my_nikname> @FloodBot how are you today ?
[13:41] <i_eat_my_nikname> dmesg | grep brainless
[13:42] <spacecamp> When will skype ever be good on Gnu/Linux?
[13:43] <spacecamp> Prolly never, Since bill gates bought it lol
[13:43] <the_thought_forg> spacecamp: Ask Microsoft
[13:43] <spacecamp> one super sucky thing, cuss most people i talk to use skype lol
[13:43] <spacecamp> back in the day i used pidgin and it worked great really, But now everyone has went to skype
[13:43] <apn> spacecamp, never.  Skype is owned and developped by Microsoft.  They do not support competing systems.
[13:44] <cfhowlett> spacecamp, you could always use blackberrymessenger ...
[13:44] <the_thought_forg> I'm having some issues getting some nVidia Legacy drivers installed on my system running Lubuntu. Can anybody give me a hand?
[13:44] <spacecamp> I should be like some or my other friends and Only use irc to talk to people rofl
[13:44] <spacecamp> but those friends of mine have autism
[13:45] <spacecamp> rofl
[13:46] <spacecamp> Skype has gotten a lil better tho for nix. Compared to the way it was when it 1st came out i guess :\
[13:46] <UrielVigilante> Ok i decided already , i will back to ubuntu 13.04, some one can tell me the best waranteed way to do it ?
[13:46] <spacecamp> lol warranty on Gnu/Linux?
[13:46] <loa> Urbanmyt1, time travel machine i guess.
[13:46] <spacecamp> wut
[13:47] <Pici> !offtopic | spacecamp
[13:47] <ronin> paxctl is the solution.
[13:47] <ronin> devil's invetion
[13:47] <spacecamp> lol
[13:49] <UrielVigilante> spacecamp: rephrasing , wich  i decided already , i will back to ubuntu 13.04, some one can tell me the best  way to do it ?
[13:49] <Pici> UrielVigilante: It would require a reinstall.
[13:49] <the_thought_forg> UrielVigilante: A clean install would work best
[13:49] <spacecamp> UrielVigilante, Grab a thumb drive and install it?
[13:50] <UrielVigilante> yes , i will do a clean install with usb persistent windows software ...
[13:50] <spacecamp> apt-get install unetbootin
[13:50] <the_thought_forg> UrielVigilante: The best way to keep it clean for upgrading in the future would be to make a separate partition on your hard drive for your /home/, you can always configure a newer installation to use that partition and mount it at /home rather than overwriting it
[13:50] <UrielVigilante> uts possible to make it in persistent mode with unebootin ?
[13:52] <UrielVigilante> The_thought_forg, iam using it on a persistent mode, the usb way that always remember all cahges in system beetween terminatesś and startś
[13:53] <the_thought_forg> UrielVigilante: Alrighty. That's always fun. I have a Salix USB stick somewhere around here that I used to use in places where I didn't have access to a computer with Linux on it
[13:55] <UrielVigilante> Unebootin max persitent space possible is 512  Mb ?
[13:56] <the_thought_forg> Rollin' again... Can anyone help me with installing Nvidia legacy drivers on Lubuntu, or point me to a channel where they might be able to?
[13:56] <UrielVigilante> with windows usb .." something software its 4 GB ....
[13:56] <the_thought_forg> UrielVigilante: It shouldn't be. Check that you aren't using an old version
[13:56] <UrielVigilante> ok thank you
[13:59] <spacecamp> How come unity has such bad support for more then one display?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> spacecamp: depends on config really
[14:00] <the_thought_forg> spacecamp: Because it's proprietary and most desktop users only have one monitor, so they can get away with it for now
[14:00] <spacecamp> Like, can you get rid of the unity bar on the top with some configing?
[14:00] <spacecamp> >unity propietary
[14:00] <spacecamp> lol
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> the_thought_forg: Unity isnt proprietary at all
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> the_thought_forg: where did you hear that?
[14:01] <spacecamp> Yeah, he was just joking
[14:02] <the_thought_forg> spacecamp: No, I was pretty serious... ActionParsnip: Isn't the SDK about 1500 USD or something?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> the_thought_forg: no idea, not something I use. I just use OpenBox as WM
[14:04] <spacecamp> i like dwm
[14:04] <the_thought_forg> ActionParsnip: I'm not entirely sure, myself. Just from what I've passively heard, it seems like one of those "Mostly for Windows and Mac" type things
[14:04] <axtheb> There are more "unity" named software products imho
[14:04] <axtheb> The ubuntu unity desktop (foss) and unity3d game engine
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> axtheb: unity isnt a DE
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> axtheb: its a shell for gnome
[14:05] <the_thought_forg> Oh
[14:05] <the_thought_forg> That Unity
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> axtheb: a plugin for Compiz
[14:06] <the_thought_forg> Whoops... I usually use LXDE, XFCE and Fluxbox. Totally forgot about that one
[14:06] <axtheb> ActionParsnip: I know.
[14:06] <axtheb> ActionParsnip: there was no "DE" in my post
[14:07] <designbybeck> Is there a way to recover deleted or removed files from the harddrive or CF card? Here is what this guys prob is: "manually deleted from the camera, and had them on my computer, but I let somebody borrow it to burn a disk and now they are gone"
[14:08] <the_thought_forg> designbybeck: I don't know which DE you use so this may not apply, but check your trash first
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> designbybeck: try foremost or scalpel on the unmounted file system
[14:08] <axtheb> designbybeck: Its not that hard to undelete files from FAT filesystem iirc, so you probably can get them from the card.
[14:10] <axtheb> designbybeck: fatback, photorec
[14:10] <MoleMan> designbybeck: I'd personally recommend TestDisk or PhotoRec, which is basically just the part you want from TestDisk http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/
[14:12] <designbybeck> Thank you all. I'll get this info to him. I might even try it on an old harddrive I have !
[14:13] <ihre> are there mirrors available for kernel.org ?
[14:13] <ihre> im downloading @ 32KB/s ...
[14:14] <ImQ009> Hey
[14:15] <ImQ009> I'm running Ubuntu Live (with prersistence file set up) off a pendrive. Now, is there away to set it up so it installs all the applications and libraries on my external HDD? It's NOT the same as my pendrive, just to make it clear
[14:16] <ImQ009> I tried setting the external HDD's mountpoint to /usr/bin
[14:16] <ImQ009> But - as I expected - it didn't work
[14:17] <whoever> hi all , anyone here using razerconfig ?, i doon't see an option to keeep the logo led solid
[14:20] <whoever> is there an optien and i just missed it
[14:22] <OerHeks> whoever, depends on your type if led actions are supported > http://bues.ch/cms/hacking/razercfg.html
[14:24] <sajal> tly
[14:24] <ImQ009> Anyone? :/
[14:25] <apn> ImQ009: sure.  If you want all applications, then leave /boot on your HD, and mount / in your external HDD
[14:26] <apn> ImQ009: if you are talking abut non-essential applications on external HDD, then mount / on your internal, and /usr to your external.
[14:30] <whoever> OerHeks:  it is the DeathAdder and according to supported features it suppors L(LEDs switching)
[14:31] <ImQ009> apn, Thanks
[14:32] <burner> so if I have unity, kde, xfce, lxde, and razor installed and my vertical space is only 768px on my netbook, how do I select the "ubuntu" as my wm in lightdm when it's off the screen?
[14:32] <ImQ009> I made a new admin account
[14:32] <ImQ009> ...in live mode
[14:32] <ImQ009> I switched to it
[14:32] <ImQ009> I ended up in fullscreen'd terminal, without anything, not being able to do anything at all
[14:32] <ImQ009> rebooted, now it won't even boot
[14:32] <ImQ009> ...... way to go
[14:33] <the_thought_forg> burner: You need to right click on the panel and reconfigure it so that it displays on the screen properly
[14:33] <ImQ009> Anyone know what's going on?
[14:33] <burner> the_thought_forg: on the panel at the top when i'm at the lightdm login screen?
[14:33] <the_thought_forg> ImQ009: What did you try to do?
[14:33] <the_thought_forg> burner: I thought you meant on the desktop... I have no idea about that, then
[14:33] <helmut_> hi
[14:34] <ImQ009> the_thought_forg, Make a new account
[14:34] <the_thought_forg> Maybe there's something you can change in the lightdm config files?
[14:34] <the_thought_forg> ImQ009: Something went horribly wrong. Whatever you did, it sounds like X was unable to start
[14:34] <burner> the_thought_forg: nah... i'm fine once logged in, but i can't try unity on my netbook since i can't select it at the login screen.  thanks anyway
[14:35] <ImQ009> the_thought_forg, All I did is to go system settings, user accounts, click the plus thingy, created new account
[14:35] <the_thought_forg> You should try to login and type the command 'startx'
[14:35] <ImQ009> Then I clicked the power button and then the name of the new account
[14:35] <ImQ009> the_thought_forg, It doesn't let me type anything at all
[14:36] <the_thought_forg> ImQ009: Press Ctrl+Alt+F7 or Ctrl+Alt+F8 to see if it will take you back to the desktop
[14:36] <ImQ009> the_thought_forg, It doesn't boot anymore :P
[14:37] <ImQ009> it goes through the flash screen
[14:37] <zykotick9> the_thought_forg: fyi, really if you are in console, it's just ALT+F7 (Ctrl is only required when you are in Xorg)
[14:37] <ImQ009> ok it booted THIS time
[14:37] <ImQ009> Hmm
[14:37] <the_thought_forg> zykotick9: Didn't know that, thanks
[14:38] <the_thought_forg> ImQ009: If you have a recovery option in your GRUB menu, you should select it
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> ive installed 13.04 64bit on a targa laptop, everything works flawless, just somtimes desktop freezes after opening dash, searching applications...grafix card= geforce go and nouveau driver
[14:38] <ImQ009> Well, nvm, nvm everything I said
[14:38] <ImQ009> I booted and I realized it didn't keep any of my settings
[14:39] <ImQ009> so this whole persistence file thing doesn't work at all :/
[14:40] <loki_> hello, what i can check if ubuntu don't save changes of my inderace? for example such changes: applications which i add on unity panel? i add them from desktop, or time after which screensaver activated, or wallpaper settings?
[14:46] <whoever> is there a more efficent way to clean the razer death adder othere then rubbing alchol, since the matt plastic seems to pick up fingure prints just by looking at it
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> whoever: how is that an ubuntu question?
[14:47] <whoever> ActionParsnip: not really but since I am here just decided to ask
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> whoever: try in ##hardware
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> think ive found my issue here for that box: http://askubuntu.com/questions/287354/clicking-the-dash-home-causes-computer-to-freeze-up
[14:48] <pmd> Hi. I've got LUKS-encrypted installation of ubuntu and I've installed elementary on second partition. Now I'm looking for a way to copy entire elementary installation to encrypted partition. Will dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/mapper/sda5_crypt command work for me?
[14:49] <MoleMan> is there a way to stop ubuntu being drunk and make it realise websites aren'r programs?
[14:49] <MoleMan> ie FaceBook, Amazon showing up in the launcher / task bar
[14:49] <loki_> whoever, just dissasble it, then wash it, and brush it with toothpaste.
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> Moleman: those are normal online accounts you can add
[14:50] <loki_> hello, what i can check if ubuntu don't save changes of my inderace? for example such changes: applications which i add on unity panel? i add them from desktop, or time after which screensaver activated, or wallpaper settings?
[14:51] <MoleMan> lotuspsychje: do you know where the setting to disable them is?
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> MoleMan: check your system settings and disable online accounts
[14:53] <MoleMan> lotuspsychje: found them in the settings, can't see an option to disable them though?
[14:53] <whoever> loki_: thx
[14:53] <loki_> whoever, but don't use tooth brush))
[14:54] <loki_> it will be too agrssive
[14:54] <loki_> agressive
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> MoleMan: check privacy settings aswell for amazon searches disable
[14:55] <loki_> cotton fabric, little tooth paste, many water at will be ok.
[14:55] <tempspace> Anybody else seeing this today? initramfs-tools : Depends: initramfs-tools-bin (< 0.99ubuntu13.1.1~) but 0.99ubuntu13.2 is to be installed
[14:55] <Pici> whoever, loki_: Can you please move this conversation to ##hardware, as it has nothing whatsoever to do with Ubuntu?
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> loki_: your question is making no sense...does your desktop not remember changes?
[14:56] <loki_> lotuspsychje, only interface changes.
[14:56] <loki_> for example i click on desktop and select wallpaper i want
[14:56] <loki_> all is ok, it is on my desktop
[14:56] <loki_> after relogin, i see default one again
[14:57] <MoleMan> lotuspsychje: still showing up in the taskbar when I open them in firefox
[14:57] <timhansen> morning, all
[14:58] <tyler_d> morning timbermaniac_
[14:58] <OldTexas> Mornin'
[14:58] <tyler_d> timhansen, I meant
[14:59] <havv> Hello
[15:00] <timhansen> I'm running ubuntu 13.04 server, and i'm having an issue with my ruby on rails app not being able to connect to mysql. i can access mysql via mysql -u root -p ; and i've discovered the mysql socket exists at /run/mysqld/mysql.sock via sudo find / -type s ; but alas.. when i try to create my rails database, i get the error, "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/run/mysqld/mysql.sock'"
[15:01] <timhansen> is there something i'm missing? anyone have anything else to try?
[15:02] <havv> I'm running lubuntu on Virtual Box and I'm trying to give it a static ip address. I added "iface eth0 inet static" and added the addresses for address, netmask and gateway. When I restart the VM there is no network connectivity. What am I missing?
[15:03] <MoleMan> timhansen: have you checked the config to ensure it is allowed? and you /might/ get better help in #Ubuntu-Server
[15:03] <MoleMan> only might though :)
[15:05] <timhansen> MoleMan: which config, to ensure what is allowed?
[15:05] <MichaelP> on 12.04 lts is it possible to upgrade to gtk 3.6.4 ?
[15:06] <MoleMan> eeerm, 1 second,
[15:06] <kanupatar> hi , I am having a linux machine installed with ubuntu 12.04, in that machine there is no internet connection.I need to install emacs full package in that machine.So i need to download the emacs deb package from net and then I need to take it there into the ubuntu machine and then only I can install the same.Can anyone tell me the emacs package location without any extra dependency?
[15:06] <kanupatar> ]/j emacs
[15:06] <MoleMan> I presume you have whatever ruby extensions or whatever are needed for MySQL integration? (I know nothing about Ruby / Rails)
[15:07] <timhansen> MoleMan: yes
[15:11] <kanupatar> Any emacs users here?
[15:11] <MoleMan> timhansen: check the socket settings in /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[15:11] <mihaela_> hi, I'm geting dhcp (ipv4) timeout with my centrino wireless card (driver iwlwifi)
[15:12] <mihaela_> this problem seems to be known for quite a while
[15:12] <mihaela_> any fixes already?
[15:13] <MoleMan> and logs in /var/log/mysql.log /var/log/mysql.err and /var/log/mysql/error.log
[15:13] <timhansen> MoleMan: that specifies the socket is at /var/run/mysqld/mysql….d…dot sock. son of a bitch. i tried that before, except with mysql.sock instead of mysqld.sock. son of a bitch
[15:13] <MoleMan> at least those are the logs I have on my system, you may find a more detailed reason as to why the login failed in them
[15:17] <SkiOne_> anyone can tell me I would get a permission denied when trying to create a folder as root? I can create folders above and below just not at this one level
[15:18] <MoleMan> SkiOne_: what are the perms on the folder? can you chmod them and does that help at all
[15:18] <MoleMan> as for why you can't to start with, no idea.
[15:18] <SkiOne__> sorry connectionropped
[15:19] <MoleMan> [16:18:42] 26-09-2013 <MoleMan> SkiOne_: what are the perms on the folder? can you chmod them and does that help at all
[15:19] <MoleMan> [16:18:50] 26-09-2013 <MoleMan> as for why you can't to start with, no idea.
[15:20] <SkiOne> the file permissions are 755 and I can't chmod them either
[15:21] <zykotick9> SkiOne: is this on a FAT or NTFS formatted partition?
[15:21] <SkiOne> ext3
[15:21] <SkiOne> http://pastebin.com/NiV7pvS5 is my file permissions
[15:28] <tempspace> Is there something other than apt-get update I can do to get apt to re-read package dependencies?
[15:28] <tempspace> I am stuck in a spot where apt is checking for dependencies of the previous package, rather than the package I am trying to install
[15:29] <Sander^work> When I try to log into ubuntu 13.04 via grafical interface.. I get trown out again.. but guest login works.
[15:30] <Sander^work> syslog says my homedir is already mounted.
[15:30] <Sander^work> when I log into the console.
[15:31] <zykotick9> Sander^work: log into console and do a "ls -la" in your home dir.  do you see anything owned by root?
[15:31] <Sander^work> zykotick9, yes. Should I chown it to myself?
[15:31] <Sander^work> I guess..
[15:32] <zykotick9> Sander^work: NEVER use sudo with GUI applications!  see "/msg ubottu gksudo" for explanation.
[15:33] <Sander^work> zykotick9, ok.
[15:34] <Rakholl> Hello, is anyone able to play League of Legends using PlayOnLinux?
[15:36] <Rakholl> Mine stopped working about two patches ago, and if someone actually has it working, I'll try and reinstall, but as things are...
[15:36] <zykotick9> Rakholl: you might want to try asking in #winehq (but i don't know how they feel about PoL)
[15:36] <boneslash> Rakholl - stop playing LOL I heard about WOW :)
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Rakholl: did you check the Wine AppDb?
[15:39] <Rakholl> ActionParsnip: Not yet
[15:41] <zquad> hey i am looking for and old ubuntu background that looked like a grid
[15:41] <zquad> I think it was the default wallpaper
[15:42] <Rakholl> ActionParsnip: Oh, a new wine version? I'll try it out, see what happens
[15:44] <u3> you know any good file crypt programs good to use
[15:44] <nibbler> gpg, dm-crypt
[15:45] <tfdl> Good morning everyone!
[15:45] <tfdl> We have used your Ubuntu package http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/gtkterm.1.html
[15:46] <tfdl> sorry I should say the Ubuntu package not your :)
[15:46] <tfdl> and successfully sent a hexadecimal commands of strings "FE" and "00" or "FE" and "01" to a serial port to switch a status light device.
[15:46] <Een> malam
[15:46] <Een> mas
[15:46] <tfdl> However, we will need to do this programmatically, we don't want to manually enter hexadecimal values, we would need to automate this process.
[15:47] <tfdl> Could you please tell us how to accomplish this? Do we have a command line version of GtkTerm, instead of the gui?
[15:47] <tfdl> We are very thankful to you and your work, we appreciate any help.
[15:47] <baswazz> what does the -R in: sudo -R chown user:grp * mean?
[15:47] <MoleMan> baswazz: recursive
[15:48] <tfdl> -R is recursively
[15:48] <MoleMan> oh, but it should be after chown, not before?
[15:48] <baswazz> ok thanks guys
[15:48] <MoleMan> baswazz: was your command the right way around?
[15:48] <rickferd> Is there an build your kernel for dumies
[15:48] <baswazz> this is the howto: http://www.latentexistence.me.uk/zfs-and-ubuntu-home-server-howto/
[15:49] <zykotick9> !kernel | rickferd
[15:50] <rickferd> I can not get any hting newer that 10.04 to run on my system
[15:50] <wheatthin> rickferd, what do you mean?
[15:51] <jonascj> Hi all. Anyone using Guayadeque player? I cannot figure out why I cannot see any songs in my library (My Music) after I've added a path in Guayadeque
[15:51] <MoleMan> baswazz: yeah, I think he has made a typo and means 'sudo chown -R steve:steve *'
[15:51] <baswazz> MoleMan: ok thanks i already missed it in the manpage :D
[15:52] <zykotick9> rickferd: using 10.04 isn't really an option at this point... what is failing with newer versons exactly?
[15:52] <rickferd> I can install 10.04  and it runs great If i try and install any of the newer version it will just have a black screen and even bring up a terminal it just sits there nothing. I tried upgrading and the same thing
[15:53] <zykotick9> rickferd: if you have nvidia/ati have you tried nomodeset?  "/msg ubottu nomodeset" for details.
[15:53] <wheatthin> sounds like your graphics card drivers need to be installed
[15:53] <wheatthin> ^
[15:53] <rickferd> I have an intel series 4 graphics card
[15:54] <wheatthin> resolution too high
[15:54] <wheatthin> or out of sync
[15:54] <zykotick9> rickferd: ok, still same question, have you tried nomodeset?
[15:54] <rickferd> no i have not
[15:55] <Rakholl> ActionParsnip: All league gives is bug splats with all the wine versions presented in the AppDb
[15:55] <kruug> I am currenlty unable to ping any resources.  I did not configure any additional firewalls.  This is Ubuntu Server 12.04.
[15:55] <kruug> Any starting places?
[15:56] <wheatthin> kruug, are you using ip and dns both?
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Rakholl: then if the appdb says it wont work, safe bet is that it wont work
[15:56] <kruug> wheatthin: so far, I've only tried dns
[15:56] <wheatthin> try ip and narrow it down
[15:56] <zquad> hey guys, there was a ubuntu wallpaper that looked like a grid. I think it was the default wallpaper of 12, 11 or 13.  Any suggestions?
[15:57] <kruug> wheatthin: aha.  thanks, IP pinging is working
[15:57] <wheatthin> kruug, perhaps it's just your resolv.conf
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> zquad: tried image search online?
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> kruug: try:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[15:58] <zquad> yea... no luck, I am thinking maybe its not default smh, really wanted it
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> kruug: then try web access
[15:59] <kruug> ActionParsnip: I tried pinging google and it gave back unknown host
[16:03] <kruug> ActionParsnip, wheatthin looks like my coworker misconfigured network interfaces
[16:04] <wheatthin> ahh lol
[16:04] <wheatthin> blame it on the coworker :P
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> kruug: d'oh
[16:12] <gambino> hi there!
[16:20] <xobb> morning. anyone has an system76 14" laptop? what's the average time on the battery?
[16:21] <wheatthin> google search it
[16:21] <philinux> xobb: I'm guessing you're not getting what you think it shoudl do?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> xobb: or email system76 direct
[16:24] <daniel__> hello
[16:24] <daniel__> i need help with something guys please
[16:24] <daniel__> new user
[16:24] <daniel__> need help modifying grub config
[16:24] <pmd> Hi. I've got LUKS-encrypted installation of ubuntu and I've installed elementary on second partition. Now I'm looking for a way to copy entire elementary installation to encrypted partition. Will dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/mapper/sda5_crypt command work for me?
[16:25] <zykotick9> daniel__: can you give more details?
[16:25] <daniel__> so
[16:25] <daniel__> im trying to gksudo gedit it
[16:26] <jhutchins> pmd: No, you need to do a file-level copy, not a block copy.
[16:26] <daniel__> but apparently asks for password and text editor does not start
[16:26] <xobb> I'm about to buy it. but I've read the whole their website didn't getting the information about that
[16:26] <xobb> yeah, emailing them is the next thing I'm gonna do after asking here)
[16:26] <jhutchins> pmd: I'd probably use rsync.
[16:26] <kalakj> hello everyone, i am having a strange problem in my laptop, it never happens in Windows, i am using UBuntu 12.04 LTS and it is updated and it ejects DVD tray at random interval , firstly i thought that it i accidentally hit  eject button, but now it is confirmed that it  ejects it at random intervals, i tried a lot on the net, but no solution find, any body please help.
[16:26] <u3_> hello
[16:26] <philinux> daniel__: just put your log in password in.
[16:26] <daniel__> i did
[16:26] <daniel__> but nothing happened
[16:26] <philinux> daniel__: and be careful what you change. What u trying to do
[16:27] <pmd> jhutchins: thanks, I'll try this way
[16:27] <zykotick9> daniel__: what is the full command you are trying?  "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub"?
[16:27] <u3_> i was just going to tell you all that my computer is sooooo fast now i cant believe it
[16:27] <philinux> daniel__: the password wont show just enter it and press enter
[16:27] <kalakj> any other channel that you would like to  recommend if help is not available here
[16:28] <skulltip> if using my desktop as a gaming (mostly steam) and light dev box including graphics, should i install 32 or 64bit OS?
[16:28] <zykotick9> skulltip: if you're into gaming, i'd suggest 32bit.  YMMV.
[16:28] <daniel__> you don't understand me guys
[16:28] <daniel__> alright
[16:28] <daniel__> terminal
[16:29] <daniel__> gksudo gedit /boot/grub
[16:29] <daniel__> asks for pass
[16:29] <daniel__> enter it
[16:29] <daniel__> accepts pass
[16:29] <FloodBot1> daniel__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:29] <zykotick9> daniel__: /boot/grub is WRONG
[16:29] <Rory> daniel__: The file you want is /etc/default/grub
[16:29] <daniel__> /etc/boot/grub
[16:29] <daniel__> oh damn let me try
[16:30] <philinux> daniel__: it would really help if you told us what the heck you're trying to do
[16:30] <Rory> philinux: He's quit
[16:30] <daniel__> Yeah i tried the patch /etc/default/grub
[16:30] <Rory> !grub | daniel__ please read this information before doing anything
[16:31] <daniel__> It just won't open the text editor
[16:31] <zykotick9> daniel__: does "gksudo gedit" work?
[16:31] <daniel__> yes
[16:31] <daniel__> Asks me for my password, i just enter it, and nothing happens
[16:31] <zykotick9> daniel__: so "no" then...
[16:32] <zykotick9> daniel__: does gedit work?
[16:32] <philinux> daniel__: copy and paste this into the terminal gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[16:32] <Peanut> Hi folks. I have a machine that runs 'Raring', and just did apt-get dist-upgrade (last time was 30 days ago). Now after booting the machine doesn't even load grub (I have disabled the grub hiding in the past), let alone the kernel. I've booted in rescue mode (from the network) and re-installed grub, which didn't help but proves that the SSD that the OS is on is still there and accessible. Any hints on how to get my machine back to life please?
[16:33] <daniel__> It asks for password
[16:33] <daniel__> I give the pass but still nothing
[16:33] <zykotick9> daniel__: does gedit work? by itself?
[16:33] <daniel__> Erm I guess i need to sudo apt get it?
[16:33] <daniel__> I thought it was included with the system packages
[16:33] <daniel__> The program gedit is currently not installed
[16:33] <minas> i was sure :P
[16:34] <philinux> daniel__: which version ubuntu you on and again , what are u trying to do
[16:34] <minas> try nano instead
[16:34] <daniel__> Well im on xubuntu 12.4
[16:34] <daniel__> Trying to add nomodeset to the grub config
[16:34] <daniel__> Yeah im going to try nano now
[16:34] <philinux> daniel__: well thats leafpad not gedit but you can install it
[16:34] <zykotick9> daniel__: xubuntu will have a different GUI text editor... but i don't know what it's called.
[16:34] <daniel__> i think it's nano
[16:35] <zykotick9> daniel__: nano is a terminal program, not GUI
[16:35] <zykotick9> daniel__: try "gksudo leafpad /etc/default/grub"
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> daniel__: sudo nand /etc/default/grub
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> daniel__: sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> etc
[16:36] <daniel__> yes im trying to figure out how to save it in nano right now
[16:36] <daniel__> i made the modifications
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> daniel__: CTRL+O, CTRL+X
[16:36] <minas> control -X
[16:36] <MoleMan> Ctrl + X
[16:36] <MoleMan> Y
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> daniel__: then run: sudo update-grub
[16:36] <daniel__> ok i think im done
[16:36] <zykotick9> daniel__: don't forget "sudo update-grub" after making changes.
[16:36] <daniel__> Alright updated it
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> daniel__: you can check with:  grep nomodeset /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[16:36] <daniel__> Thanks guys
[16:37] <daniel__> Opened it with nano again and configuration has been saved
[16:37] <daniel__> Is it okay to run with nomodeset on the long run?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> daniel__: sure
[16:37] <daniel__> Because I think it loaded some bad drivers from my graphics card
[16:37] <daniel__> everything goes black and flickering
[16:38] <philinux> daniel__: which graphics card?
[16:39] <daniel__> radeon hd 7450
[16:39] <aeroot> Hey  together. I want to switch back from the old Linux Mint 12 to Ubuntu. In the installer Ubuntu says, he can replace the installation and applications and files of linux mint will be deleted. what does that mean? will the old file system be available after that and files that do not belong to mint won't be deleted?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> aeroot: you should format the mint partition and install a clean Ubuntu install
[16:40] <jhutchins> aeroot: Probably not.  You'll probably loose anything you don't back up.
[16:42] <aeroot> ActionParsnip, jhutchins: I actually planned to do a backup anyhow, but when the files would stay I would do a backup as 'backup' and not as transfer-method to the new system...
[16:43] <jhutchins> aeroot: There are sometimes problems with the hidden configuration files in a user's profile, especially if you revert to an earlier version of a program that uses those files.
[16:44] <schnitzl> hi. i have problems with fancontrol. sudo pwmconfig says i have no sensors installed.../usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no fan-capable sensor modules installed
[16:44] <jhutchins> aeroot: What ActionParsnip said is true, the disk should ideally be re-formatted, so all files will be lost.
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> !sensors | schnitzl
[16:44] <OerHeks> schnitzl, do you have lm-sensors installed?
[16:44] <schnitzl> sure. i did the check
[16:45] <schnitzl> confirmed all with yes
[16:45] <philinux> daniel__: maybe a search in ubuntuforums.org may help. I'm not a radeon user so can't help
[16:45] <schnitzl> i think lm-sensors isnt wiriting the modules.
[16:45] <aeroot> jhutchins: okay, that was my first approach. i thought it could be more compfortable the other way, but i will do a clean install. thanks
[16:47] <babinlonston> Using Ubuntu 13.04 and installed KVM for virtual Machine , i have installed RHEL, centos and Winxp as my Guest OS in KVM , Except Win xp In all Operating system Drivers are get installed but in XP its not getting installed , How to get install the guest operating systems Drivers , Help me to get fixed .
[16:47] <zykotick9> babinlonston: are you using kvm directly, or through virt-manager?
[16:48] <babinlonston> zykotick9: Throught Virt-manager
[16:48] <aeroot> btw, can i configure "Files" that it doesn't do a search/filter when beginning to type but just "jump" to a file with that beginning letter?
[16:48] <zykotick9> babinlonston: try asking in #virt on irc.oftc.net
[16:49] <babinlonston> there is not chatroom as #virt
[16:50] <zykotick9> babinlonston: notice the irc.oftc.net - it's NOT on freenode
[16:51] <babinlonston> ok
[16:52] <xtriz> what does headless ubuntu server means ?
[16:52] <zykotick9> xtriz: no attached monitor
[16:52] <xtriz> zykotick9, :)
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> xtriz: no screen on it, most servers are headless
[16:52]  * LinuxGold is running 2 headless servers
[16:53] <Peanut> Hi folks. I have a machine that runs 'Raring', and just did apt-get dist-upgrade (last time was 30 days ago). Now after booting the machine doesn't even load grub (I have disabled the grub hiding in the past), let alone the kernel. I've booted in rescue mode (from the network) and re-installed grub, which didn't help but proves that the SSD that the OS is on is still there and accessible, I can even mount it. Any hints on how to get my machine back to life plea
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Peanut: hold SHIFT at boot, do you see grub?
[16:54] <bindi> so, 10.04 no longer supported? what's the best way to upgrade to 12.04, use the upgrade method presented by ubuntu or just reinstall..?
[16:54] <schnitzl> is there another tools to scan for sensors like lm-sensors ? i think it just does not redognize my hardware. but i am sure my fans can be regulated.
[16:54] <zykotick9> LinuxGold: <OT> i don't know if it's coincidence or if irssi actually takes colour names of Nicks into account, but the last three times i've seen you most something - your Nick has been yellow (gold)
[16:54] <xtriz> ActionParsnip, nice to know that i was knowing this before
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> bindi: only not supported on the desktop. It still has a year and a bit on server
[16:54] <zykotick9> s/most something/post something/
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> bindi: you can upgrade to Precise in one jump as it is LTS to LTS
[16:55] <LinuxGold> zykotick9: uh?  I'm using LimeChat without escape codes
[16:55] <zykotick9> LinuxGold: the colours are determined by client, so it's with MY irssi ;)
[16:55] <LinuxGold> =)
[16:55] <skinux> How does this work: sudo apt-get install nodejs=0.10.18-1chl1~precise1  ?
[16:56] <babinlonston> What is the ubuntu server IRC ? #server
[16:56] <zykotick9> babinlonston: #ubuntu-server
[16:56] <babinlonston> zykotick9: thanks
[16:57] <Peanut> ActionParsnip: No, I'm on IPMI. But the grub menu isn't hidden, I turn that off on all my machines (removed GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT)
[16:59] <skinux> Nevermind. The installation instructions are invalid.
[16:59] <rimal> can i ask questions about backtrack here
[17:00] <wheatthin> no
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> rimal: #backtrack-linux
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> rimal: or #kali-linux
[17:02] <zykotick9> !backtrack | rimal
[17:03] <rimal> okay
[17:03] <rimal> thanks
[17:05] <Peanut> Ugh.. it seems like the newer kernel detects ttyS0 and ttyS1 in a different order, hence my GRUB would never display!
[17:12] <dubhdara> can someone help me get my gnome configured on ubuntu
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> dubhdara: with details, maybe
[17:12] <dubhdara> I did a minimal install then install the gnome set
[17:13] <dubhdara> but it stilll messes up when i start gdm
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> dubhdara: how do you mean "messes up"
[17:13] <dubhdara> columns and bars and is fuzzy
[17:13] <dubhdara> its a older pc it has the old S3 savage graphic card
[17:15] <loa> where i can find in dconf-editor where ubuntu save what icons i have on my unity panel?
[17:15] <dubhdara> ubuntu is so strange
[17:16] <NLD0uw3NL> hello
[17:16] <trism> loa: com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites
[17:16] <jhutchins> dubhdara: You might want to check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see what the system thinks it's doing.
[17:18] <loa> trism, you are very helpful thx. maybe you now what can be wrong in my situation i set for example new wallpaper, but after relogin i see that there default again, or for example i set different timeout for screensaver, and he again default
[17:19] <loa> looks like settings not saved
[17:19] <loa> and system settings is working very strange.
[17:20] <loa> there are different settings for wallpaper, every time i open it
[17:20] <loa> looks like system settings mess my configuration
[17:20] <loa> i setuped now all good, checked all things in dconf and will try to restart
[17:21] <xobb_> >> anyone has an system76 14" laptop? what's the average time on the battery? 4hrs, that's what the support said. They are expecting dramatic increase when 13.10 is released. Anyone has an idea why should that be increased so dramatically?
[17:22] <igor__> hi vsem
[17:22] <igor__> est russkie?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> !ru
[17:23] <loa> !po
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> dubhdara: you may need an xorg.conf file to get a better display
[17:23] <loa> s[ecial command for russians?
[17:23] <igor__> Эй выблядки англопиздючные, пишите на русском
[17:23] <wxl> i have what i think is a very simple question relating to sudo -u. i'd like to have HOME set to the target user, so i'm using the -H switch, yet sudo -H -u user echo $HOME yields the HOME of the invoking user. the only thing set in /etc/sudoers is env_reset and secure_path and as i read the man page that shouldn't conflict. what am i doing wrong and/or missing?
[17:24] <dubhdara> where is my xorg.conf suppose to be on a ubuntu system
[17:24] <loa> that russian man said very bad words...
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> dubhdara: /etc/X11 same as every other Linux box
[17:24] <loa> he used top10 bad words in russian.
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> dubhdara: one doesnt exist by default but if you make one it will be obeyed
[17:24] <dubhdara> well it shows a xorg.conf.d
[17:24] <zykotick9> dubhdara: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (but it's not there by default)
[17:24] <dubhdara> but that says its a dang directory
[17:24] <wxl> dubhdara: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config might be useful
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> dubhdara: /etc/X11/xorg.conf   will be the file
[17:25] <tech11> ./sh configure No such file or directory
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> tech11: is there a Configuration file in the pwd?
[17:25] <ikonia> tech11: what are you trying to do exactly
[17:27] <dubhdara> okay i also need one last thing
[17:27] <dubhdara> how do i download this
[17:27] <tech11> i am setting up gammamoo server
[17:27] <dubhdara> xserver-xorg-driver-savage_2.0.2.3-0ubuntu1_i386 
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> dubhdara: isnt it in a default install
[17:28] <dubhdara> apt-get says it can't get it
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> dubhdara: dpkg -l | grep savage
[17:28] <dubhdara> not on mine
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> !info xserver-xorg-video-all
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> dubhdara: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all
[17:29] <EricKit> Does anyone understand file systems very well?  What are the benefits of EXT4 and why when Ubuntu writes to an NTFS system can Windows not see the file?  I understand MS doesn't give much specifications to NTFS and the changes to it.
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> EricKit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> EricKit: couldnt find that?
[17:32] <jhutchins> EricKit: If you have ntfs-3g and can write to the NTFS filesystem, windows can see the file.  Perhaps you have not set the permiissions correctly?
[17:32] <tech11> how do u runing sh configure
[17:33] <Bookwormser> Hello quick question. I am currently on release 10.04.2 and I need to get to 10.04.3. Will an apt-get update take me to 10.04.4 or only 10.04.3?
[17:33] <ikonia> tech11: you run it in a directory where there is a confiugre script
[17:33] <ikonia> tech11: eg: sh ./configure
[17:33] <dtcrshr> is there a way to save the apps iv installed and install the same apps into another ubuntu?
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Bookwormser: you will upgrade to the latest packages in the repos so will go to 10.04..4 direct
[17:33] <dtcrshr> Iv added no foreign repos, its a lts install
[17:34] <Bookwormser> Ah ok thank you ActionParsnip. Is there a way to simply update to 10.04.3? Would I need to do it package by package?
[17:34] <zykotick9> dtcrshr: downloaded packages are in /var/cache/apt/archives/ you can copy that folder's contents to different machines.
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Bookwormser: no, the minor releases just means later installs need to upgrade fewer packages
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Bookwormser: its the same release
[17:35] <jhutchins> dtcrshr: Yes.
[17:35] <Bookwormser> OK, great. Thank you for your help, ActionParsnip.
[17:35] <EricKit> jhutchins: I'll have to check which version I'm running on my Ubuntu machine.  On the Windows side it's 3.1.  The default Ubuntu load recognized, read and wrote to the NTFS drive.  But Windows 8 did not see the files, detected "errors" and wanted to repair it.
[17:35] <dtcrshr> zykotick9: well, I just want them to be installed from the web again, do I have to save thisfolder with binaries?
[17:36] <zykotick9> !clone | dtcrshr
[17:36] <dtcrshr> thanks zykotick9
[17:40] <jhutchins> EricKit: Looks like there are some new W8 behaviors that can cause problems with shared disks.
[17:40] <EricKit> jhutchins: W8 is one of the main reasons I loaded up Ubuntu.. I wouldn't doubt it.  Must be the best thing that's happened to Ubuntu
[17:43] <xtriz> EricKit, what is W8 ?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> xtriz: windows 8
[17:44] <xtriz> ohh
[17:45] <jhutchins> EricKit: Apparently you need to disable the Fast Startup Option.  Windows 8 is doing a "hybrd shutdown" which is more of a suspend in order to conceal how ungodly long it takes to actually boot.  It saves the state of the mounted partition, and changes made by another OS while Windows is down are not recognized.
[17:45] <jhutchins> EricKit: I'd do a little more research on this and not just take my word for it, but that seems to be the issue.
[17:45] <tech11> can't open ./configure
[17:45] <ikonia> tech11: you don't open it - you execute it
[17:46] <ikonia> tech11: you either need to run it with "sh" - or you need to set it to have execute privileges
[17:46] <jhutchins> You should be able to open it though, it should just be a text file.
[17:46] <EricKit> jhutchins:  That's a great idea.  I knew shutdown was actually a hibernate type shutdown.  Actually, now that I think about it... when I "shutdown" and start, Ubuntu won't mount it (it's not allowed).  But when I restart (which is actually a real shutdown and the only way to apply patches), it will mount it and the problem still persists.  Thanks for the idea though.
[17:47] <jhutchins> tech11: Note that the file configure must be in the current directory for that to work, and you must have read permissions on it.
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> tech11: did you read the readme file in the source you have?
[17:47] <jhutchins> tech11: You might want to reconsider doing this as you have the potential to wreck your system if you don't understand the process.
[17:48] <jhutchins> tech11: It is much better to stick with packages from Ubuntu until you've learned more about how Linux and Ubuntu work.
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> tech11: is there no PPA for what you are installing? Is it not in the repos?
[17:57] <PrideAndSorrow> i wanna change the mount point of /dev/sdb3
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> PrideAndSorrow  try      sudo umount /dev/sdb3; mkdir [some easy name]; sudo mount /dev/sdb3 [that name]
[18:01] <vl4kn0> Hi, I'm developing a product using ffmpeg, (not avconv) but since ubuntu does not have original ffmpeg in its repositories I found ppa repository that contains original ffmpeg. Problem is that there is ffmpeg from the PPA and ffmpeg from ubuntu repositories. How do I make sure the ffmpeg being installed with apt-get install is the one from ppa not from ubuntu repositories? Also, how do I prevent reinstalling that package when updating?
[18:01] <ImQ009> So
[18:01] <ImQ009> I got a new pendrive, 16GB
[18:01] <ImQ009> And it's 3rd time since I try to install Ubuntu
[18:02] <ImQ009> It keeps freezing at random stages
[18:02] <ImQ009> It froze at "Please wait" stage
[18:02] <ImQ009> And now it froze at "Installing system" stage
[18:02] <VsMaX> ImQ009, old laptop?
[18:02] <ImQ009> VsMaX, Sandybridge
[18:02] <dubhdara> okay now i got gnome working
[18:02] <ImQ009> A year old laptop
[18:03] <ImQ009> Now something happend that the main window vanished
[18:03] <ImQ009> Just like the first time
[18:03] <ImQ009> Is that supposed to happen?
[18:03] <chaotic_good> who here is runignthe show on ubuntu?? I mean varnish to LAMMP with 2 ms the second being memached, software raid 10 or iscsi under psotgrewsql?
[18:03] <dubhdara> wat is the strip to the side of gnome in the graphic cd called
[18:04] <VsMaX> ImQ009, probably you have some unspupported hardware, check if your hardware is supported, dont remember the website but you should be able to find it on google
[18:04] <dubhdara> dang it my minds frozen
[18:04] <VsMaX> ImQ009, also try mint
[18:04] <VsMaX> ImQ009, linux mint I mean
[18:05] <dubhdara> wat is the strip to the side called
[18:05] <chaotic_good> postgresql aolserver tcl linux oh my!!! with varnish out front, ha proxy in middle and softraid 10 down low!!!
[18:05] <chaotic_good> www.aolserver.com
[18:06] <ImQ009> VsMaX, Live mode worked though
[18:06] <arshavin> my dvd drive reads dvds randomly,but it reads cd's with so many errors,effectively making it impossible to copy or read any data  [ 9143.142301] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 4096
[18:06] <arshavin> [ 9143.142310] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 1024[ 9143.198286] sr 3:0:0:0: [sr0]
[18:07] <arshavin> what should I do?
[18:07] <dubhdara> shoot it
[18:07] <ImQ009> I wanted to use Ubuntu though
[18:07] <ImQ009> Not mint
[18:07] <lemonsandpears> I need an email password recovery specialist for hire, pm me if interested
[18:07] <ImQ009> That's because I'm a complente Linux n00b
[18:08] <ImQ009> And installing stuff on Ubuntu is easy :P
[18:08] <dubhdara> ubuntu is suppose to be for the noobs
[18:08] <ImQ009> dubhdara, That's why I want to use it
[18:08] <johnjohnjohn> hey guys I have several directories that I am parsing and some of the files have annoying prefix like '1234_' or '4544_' added to the front of the file name, is there an easy way to rename losing the number_ at the front?
[18:08] <ImQ009> But that fucking shit won't even install :P Sorry for the harsh words but I've been trying to fix my lappy for 2 months
[18:08] <dubhdara> whats the prob again imq009
[18:08] <ImQ009> It just won't simply install
[18:08] <dubhdara> from the graphical cd
[18:09] <ImQ009> It stops at random points
[18:09] <dubhdara> yeah it does that
[18:09] <ImQ009> And the main window just vanishes
[18:09] <Ludovik> This is not necessary a Ubuntu specific question but I was just wondering what the best partition setup would be to have " Operating System / Swap / Program Settings / Storage " in seperate partitions so that if I have to re-install I just have to re-install the "Operating System"?
[18:09] <dubhdara> well you can always install it through the alt/min cd
[18:10] <sdn3rd> does anyone else have an issue where after they issue syndaemon -d -k -i 0.2s their psmouse module has to be reloaded?
[18:10] <dubhdara> then i can walk you through the rest of it but i don't have that neat strip to the left
[18:10] <dubhdara> I can't even remember wat the crap its called
[18:10] <sdn3rd> my trackpad stops tracking the mouse when I issue that until I rmmod psmouse and modprobe it again
[18:10] <xangua> Ludovik: lots of guides to make a separate home partition when installing if that is what you ask
[18:11] <arshavin> sdn3rd: I have very similar problem on my vaio lapto
[18:11] <Ludovik> Well, I find that home partition generally is for storage and what not. But let me take a look/
[18:11] <dubhdara> you may have to work on your xorg
[18:11] <dubhdara> or make one
[18:12] <dubhdara> oh you using the pad on the laptop
[18:12] <dubhdara> synaptics i think wat you need
[18:12] <arshavin> sdn3rd: I fixed it by modifying my xorg.conf file created by nvidia-xconfig
[18:14] <arshavin> sdn3rd: I found archwiki very helpfull though I am using elemnetary os
[18:16] <tech11> can or can't i ./options.h
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> !details | tech11
[18:18] <ImQ009> 4th attempt
[18:18] <ImQ009> Same thing, just stopped at "installing system"
[18:19] <ImQ009> doing nothing at all
[18:20] <Neozonz> is x11-common required for server type functionality?
[18:21] <skinux> Is /usr/local/src intended to be used as /usr/local/src/<user>/some-src?
[18:23] <ImQ009> I don
[18:23] <ImQ009> I don't even know what do do anymore :/
[18:23] <f00bar80> is there a tool/software for ubuntu like MTPutty for multiple SSH sessions managing?
[18:24] <gordonjcp> f00bar80: what does MTPutty do?
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> f00bar80  try gigolo
[18:25] <f00bar80> gordonjcp, http://ttyplus.com/multi-tabbed-putty/
[18:26] <gordonjcp> f00bar80: oh neat
[18:26] <leitao> hi. Which glibc will be shipped with 13.10?
[18:26] <gordonjcp> f00bar80: well putty is open-source and available for Linux, maybe you could try compiling MTPutty?
[18:26] <tech11> i am using ubuntu 13.04
[18:29] <f00bar80> gordonjcp, there's no a MTputty like precompiled package?
[18:29] <OerHeks> leitao, ask in #ubuntu+1
[18:29] <leitao> OerHeks: thankas
[18:29] <gordonjcp> f00bar80: oh, it appears that mtputty is closed-source, which is legally questionable if it derives from putty
[18:30] <bekks> gordonjcp: It isnt derived, it actually just uses putty.
[18:30] <team_edward> how do i get this to work for lowercase files too?  $ for file in {A..Z}*; do echo $file; done
[18:30] <bekks> for file in {a..Z}*; do echo $file; done
[18:30] <gordonjcp> bekks: oh, putty is MIT licence, I thought it was GPL
[18:30] <kruug> I'm looking to modify the motd of server 12.04 to include the stardate.  Anyone know of a good way to do so?
[18:30] <team_edward> thanks bekks
[18:30] <gordonjcp> bekks: so mtputty is legal, just morally objectionable
[18:30] <bekks> gordonjcp: Yeah :)
[18:31] <gordonjcp> kruug: have you got a script to generate the stardate?
[18:31] <team_edward> bad substitution bekks
[18:31] <f00bar80> gordonjcp, so there no way to have something like it in ubuntu?
[18:31] <gordonjcp> f00bar80: maybe, I don't know
[18:31] <team_edward> ah nvm i see it
[18:31] <gordonjcp> f00bar80: I just open up a terminal and ssh to the machine I want to connect to
[18:31] <gordonjcp> f00bar80: actually these days I mostly use mosh instead
[18:31] <kruug> gordonjcp: no, I don't.  I wasn't sure if that would have been reinventing the wheel or not
[18:31] <bekks> team_edward: Then use two substitutions, one in lowercase, one in uppercase.
[18:32] <kruug> If that's the case, I'll probably just skip it as it's more of a joke between a coworker and I
[18:32] <Griff|> Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as
[18:32] <Griff|> bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD). When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5]
[18:32] <Griff|> along with / and boot.
[18:32] <FloodBot1> Griff|: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:32] <gordonjcp> kruug: take a look in /etc/update-motd.d
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> bbl
[18:33] <kruug> gordonjcp: will that remove what's already in there?
[18:33] <gordonjcp> kruug: that contains a bunch of scripts updated periodically
[18:34] <hassan> vbxv<
[18:34] <UrielVigilante> how to install bcm 4311 on ubuntu 13.04 . I alread try this before :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6159854/
[18:35] <Griff|> Anyone able to assist with my issue?
[18:35] <ImQ009> And now it' stuck at "please wait" after scanning local repositories
[18:35] <ImQ009> wtf is going on
[18:36] <Griff|> Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as
[18:36] <Griff|> bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).
[18:36] <bekks> ImQ009: Then "please wait".
[18:36] <Griff|> When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.
[18:36] <bekks> Griff|: Too long, didnt read.
[18:36] <ImQ009> bekks, The whole point being I don't know how long I'm supposed to wait. :P
[18:37] <bekks> ImQ009: Until it finishes :)
[18:37] <ImQ009> Because I don't know whether the window is gonna stay like that for-nvm, this time it did something
[18:37] <ImQ009> The window used to randomly vanish after that :P
[18:37] <bekks> ImQ009: So waiting means: "wait longer than 10s" :)
[18:37] <ImQ009> bekks, That was actually 10 minutes :P
[18:38] <ImQ009> Anyway, let's hope it finishes the installation :D
[18:39] <fellayaboy> from text mode how can i run (startx) in hardware rendering mode instead of software rendering mode
[18:39] <bekks> fellayaboy: Dont use startx anymore, thats heavily deprecated.
[18:39] <fellayaboy> bekks what do i use then
[18:40] <azizz> install gentoo
[18:40] <bekks> fellayaboy: Use lightdm to start your X.
[18:40] <fellayaboy> thanks
[18:40] <killer> hey
[18:40] <fellayaboy> im using mate though does that matter? im not using unity
[18:40] <killer> where are the fonts location in ubuntu
[18:41] <bekks> fellayaboy: Do you use Ubuntu or Mint?
[18:41] <fellayaboy> mint i believe
[18:41] <bekks> fellayaboy: Then please consult the mint support.
[18:41] <bekks> !mint | fellayaboy
[18:41] <fellayaboy> ok sorry thanks
[18:41] <UrielVigilante> Iam installing bcm 4311 on ubuntu 13.04 , after i write : sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree  , on terminal it says is not able to find the package. ! I also tryed  trought out the software source, and then add the additional drivers, it dont work too. why ?
[18:41] <sidds> ubuntu software center and steam closes within seconds after opening. Help..
[18:43] <Griff|> Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as
[18:44] <Griff|> bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).
[18:44] <Griff|> When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.
[18:44] <UrielVigilante> !bcm
[18:44] <team_edward> I need to get this to work for lowercase because the folders I want to send the files to are lower case initial characters as well: $ for file in {A..Z}; do mv $file* $file ; done
[18:44] <zykotick9> sidds: try starting one of them from a terminal, do you get any error output?
[18:45] <zykotick9> team_edward: did you try {a..z} perhaps?
[18:45] <sidds> hii everyone. i'm facing a problem. ubuntu software center and steam closes within seconds after opening. Help..
[18:45] <team_edward> i have mixed upper and lowercase on the initial filenames
[18:45] <team_edward> so it needs to include both for those, but ignore case for the folders
[18:45] <sdn3rd> arshavin elementary os?
[18:46] <UrielVigilante> I cant find how to make bcm 4311 work on ubuntu 13.04
[18:46] <Griff|> {a..z,A..Z} ?
[18:46] <Griff|> Shot in the dark.
[18:46] <UrielVigilante> !bcm 13.04
[18:46] <ImQ009> How long is creating user stage supposed to take?
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | UrielVigilante
[18:46] <ImQ009> It's already taking 10 minutes
[18:47] <ImQ009> I didn't pick any sort of encryption
[18:47] <team_edward> sorry no luck griff
[18:47] <Griff|> :( Thanks anyways dude
[18:48] <sidds> zykotick9: yes i am getting an error. where can i paste the info. it's a little big.
[18:48] <zykotick9> sidds: paste.ubuntu.com
[18:49] <sidds> zykotick9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6159913/
[18:50] <sidds> zykotick9: this error is for software-center
[18:50] <Griff|> Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as
[18:50] <Griff|> bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).
[18:50] <zykotick9> sidds: sorry, i don't have a clue.  good luck!
[18:50] <Griff|> When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.
[18:50] <FloodBot1> Griff|: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:51] <Beryllium> Hi there. It sounds like the apple magic trackpad works on Ubuntu 12.04 and 13.04 (with some minor annoyances in BT pairing, but that's fine) - just wondering, though. Has anyone here used a magic trackpad or other multitouch device in Ubuntu? Are there easy ways to set up gestures, like tab-left/tab-right in a web browser by using finger swipes?
[18:53] <azizz> are you guys going to switch to SteamOS or what?
[18:54] <killer> what is the location of system fonts
[18:54] <sidds> ubuntu software center and steam closes within seconds after opening. help needed..
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> azizz, not everyone is a gamer and this is support
[18:57] <azizz> why the fuck would you not play video games on your PC?
[18:57] <azizz> are you a coding nerd or something?
[18:57] <IdleOne> !language
[18:57] <azizz> !cryaboutit
[18:58] <sdn3rd> arshavin anyhow im using saucy gnomeubuntu
[18:58] <azizz> besides, we're all grown men here. don't act like you've never said the word "fuck" in your life
[18:58] <OerHeks> sdn3rd, saucy is not supported here (yet) join #ubuntu+1
[18:59] <IdleOne> azizz: I'm going to ask you not to use that language in here again
[18:59] <sdn3rd> OerHeks: darn and its like what, a day or two away form release
[18:59] <sdn3rd> haha
[18:59] <azizz> what language? what word should I not use?
[18:59] <azizz> I am confused
[18:59] <IdleOne> azizz: swear one more time and there will be no confusion
[18:59] <azizz> I just want to know the exact word that I should not use
[19:00] <ImQ009> Nice troll
[19:00] <tozen> sidds: cd ~/.config; rm -rf software-center && sudo apt-get install -- reinstall software-center ??
[19:01] <tozen> sidds: cd ~/.config; rm -rf software-center && sudo apt-get install --reinstall software-center ??
[19:01] <tozen> sorry
[19:01] <sidds> tozen: did that already. did not solve the issue.
[19:01] <azizz> am I allowed to say "ballsack"?
[19:01] <azizz> thats not a swear word
[19:02] <tozen> sidds: did you tried to launch software-center through console?
[19:02] <dieguezz> hello, can somebody help me? i need to find fstab file
[19:03] <zykotick9> dieguezz: /etc/fstab you mean?
[19:03] <dieguezz> oh yes!!  tyvm zykotick9
[19:04] <sidds> tozen: yes. the error is in the pastbin. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6159913/
[19:04] <Griff|> Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as
[19:04] <Griff|> bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).
[19:04] <Griff|> When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.
[19:04] <FloodBot1> Griff|: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:05] <sidds> tozen: can u help on this??
[19:06] <mrrcp> whats the best method to get netflix to work on 12.04
[19:06] <tozen> sidds: have you tried to launch with sudo?
[19:06] <mrrcp> ?
[19:06] <DJones> !netflix | mrrcp
[19:07] <sidds> tozen: yes. this error was with sudo.
[19:07] <tozen> sidds: let me think for a while
[19:07] <sidds> tozen: when i open it from dash..it just closes after 1-2 seconds.
[19:07] <zykotick9> sidds: you should NEVER use sudo with GUI applications!  see "/msg ubottu gksudo" for details.  but i don't think that's related to your error (but it might cause others)
[19:10] <sidds> zykotick9: yes u r right. i use gksudo for gui applications.
[19:12] <zykotick9> sidds: did this ever work?  if so, do you know what changed?  and, is your system up-to-date?
[19:13] <sam113101> does any of you want to be my girlfriend?
[19:14] <sidds> zykotick9: yes my system is up-to-date. what i'm suspecting is the a few days back "sudo apt-get autoremove" uninstalled 3 libs which i suspect might be causing this prob. not sure though.
[19:15] <zykotick9> sidds: well, you could check /var/log/apt/history.log to see what was removed?
[19:15] <tozen> sidds r u here?
[19:16] <sidds> zykotick9: checked that. installed some of the uninstalled ones with no effect.
[19:16] <sidds> tozen: yes i'm still here.
[19:16] <tozen> sidds: what sais sudo ap-get update?
[19:16] <zykotick9> sidds: i gots nothin'.  again, best of luck.
[19:17] <tozen> sidds: what sais sudo apt-get update?
[19:17] <ubuntusucks> hi
[19:17] <sidds> zykotick9: thanks..
[19:17] <sidds> tozen: did that. no change from that.
[19:17] <tozen> ubuntusucks: hi! what the matter, pal?
[19:18] <tozen> sidds: so clear yes?
[19:18] <ImQ009> Hmm
[19:18] <ImQ009> Odd
[19:18] <mib_kitkat> hi, i'm looking for a decent irc client for a gtk-based environment
[19:18] <ImQ009> Chromium won't install on 13:04
[19:18] <ubuntusucks> tozen: i have problems installing ubuntu on a gtp ssd
[19:18] <mib_kitkat> maybe alternatives to xchat?
[19:18] <ImQ009> 13.04* It complains about missing libs
[19:18] <mrrcp> mib_kitkat: irssi
[19:18] <ubuntusucks> gpt sorry
[19:18] <mrrcp> its the best
[19:19] <sidds> tozen: what could this mean. /usr/share/app-install/desktop/workrave:workrave.desktop' could not be read correctly.
[19:19] <mib_kitkat> mrrcp, well ok thanks
[19:19] <ubuntusucks> is it possible to use ubuntu with a gpt ssd on a non uefi bios mobo ???
[19:19] <oaulakh> how to add desklets to ubuntu
[19:19] <oaulakh> ?
[19:20] <OldTexas> ubuntusucks, I got a SSD on mine, not sure 'bout the UEFI.  I only use AMD.
[19:21] <tozen> sidds: how you get it?
[19:21] <ubuntusucks> OldTexas: does your bios look like a normal bios or is it colourful, with mouse support ???
[19:21] <bekks> ubuntusucks: Thats pretty pointless to use GPT if your mobo doesnt support UEFI.
[19:22] <ImQ009> it just gives me "package dependencies cannot be resolved" when I try to install chromium
[19:22] <sidds> tozen: this is while reinstalling software-center
[19:22] <OldTexas> Colorful with mou8se support.  Dangdest thang I ever saw.
[19:22] <Mouser25> ubuntusucks, My ssd is gpt and I am using grub without UEFI'
[19:22] <zykotick9> bekks: ? GPT supports large disks, MSDOS partition tables don't.
[19:22] <bekks> ubuntusucks: The colors of a BIOS do net tell you anythiong about UEFI-support. HP Itanium BIOS's are evening black and white and support UEFI since decades.
[19:22] <sidds> tozen: if u want i'll paste the complete error in pasebin..
[19:22] <Griff|> Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as
[19:22] <Griff|> bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).
[19:22] <bekks> zykotick9: I strongly doubt he has a > 2TB SSD.
[19:22] <Griff|> When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.
[19:22] <tozen> sidds: yes please
[19:23] <ubuntusucks> ok, gpt with non uefi isnt suggested  here - so i ahev to format and re install :((
[19:23] <OldTexas> I got a M5A99X Evo R2.0 Asus board.
[19:23] <zykotick9> bekks: i wasn't aware it was an SSD, i'm not seeing the other side of this conversation.
[19:23] <ImQ009> Ok, I changed the download source to United States
[19:23] <ImQ009> Now it says "package chromium-browser isn't available"
[19:24] <sidds> tozen: here it is.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6160025/
[19:24] <bekks> ImQ009: USe chrome, not chromium, if you want PepperFlash support.
[19:25] <Calinou> it's chromium then
[19:25] <Calinou> bekks: you can backport pepperflash
[19:25] <Calinou> chrome is bad
[19:25] <ubuntusucks> don't use chrome , use platinum
[19:25] <OldTexas> Intel is in cahoots with Microsoft.  They probably sabatoged their Intels for Linux.
[19:25] <bekks> Calinou: Thats FUD, honestly. And how do you backport PeppperFlash then - any links?
[19:25] <Calinou> no, it isn't
[19:26] <Calinou> bekks: search engines are your friend there
[19:26] <Calinou> but I'm sure you can backport pepperflash to chromium...
[19:26] <ubuntusucks> Intel has developped the new 3.12 kernel, i guess they are pro linux+
[19:26] <Calinou> they did not ubuntusucks
[19:26] <bekks> Calinou: So you dont even have a link then. Its FUD, you just prove it.
[19:26] <Calinou> they aren't the only kernel contributor
[19:26] <OldTexas> Ah, cool.
[19:26] <Calinou> https://startpage.com/do/search?q=backporting+pepperflash+to+chromium
[19:26] <Calinou> have a good read 8)
[19:27] <bekks> ubuntusucks: Intel hasnt developed a single kernel until know. They just employ several kernel devs, as other companies do, too.
[19:27] <OldTexas> They'll prolly try to pass it off as OS/3
[19:27] <bekks> -k
[19:27] <loa> hello, i am trying to add unity://desktop-icon to com.canonical.Unity.Launcher using dconf-editor, all added correctrly but after relog it dissapears from unity launcher.
[19:27] <loa> what ca i check?
[19:27] <DJones> ubuntusucks: Do you have an actual Ubuntu upport question?
[19:27] <ubuntusucks> many questions DJones
[19:28] <DJones> ubuntusucks: Well we wait wait with bated breath, remembering !guidleines and !coc
[19:29] <tozen> sidds: seems it's rarings bug... :(
[19:29] <ubuntusucks> just joking, ubuntu is so brilliant that everything is running perfectly ;)+
[19:29] <ImQ009> bekks, I downloaded the package from Google.com. It says "Depedency is not satisfable: libxss1" :P
[19:29] <tozen> was reading couple topicks on askubuntu.com
[19:29] <bekks> ImQ009: Then ask google what they did there :)
[19:30] <ImQ009> bekks, Then why recommend using it in the first place? :/
[19:31] <bekks> ImQ009: Because google even has a PPA.
[19:31] <ubuntusucks> troll whq just called i have to go
[19:31] <surfdue> Vermoot, hola.
[19:31] <f00bar80> how to save ssh credentials for multiple servers from terminal to get access automaticall without the need everytime to fill in the server's credentials ?
[19:31] <surfdue> ;)
[19:32] <Vermoot> Hi there ! I have an OSX drive on which I'd like to copy a file from my ubuntu setup. So I guess I'm looking for a way to have writing permissions on an HFS+ volume.
[19:33] <Vermoot> I tried this (http://askubuntu.com/questions/332315/how-to-read-and-write-hfs-journaled-external-hdd-in-ubuntu-without-access-to-os) with no luck, as a result i get what I think to be the man mount page.
[19:33] <ImQ009> bekks, Wtf. It won't let me ender super user. it keeps saying auth failiture
[19:33] <Griff|> Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as
[19:33] <Griff|> bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).
[19:33] <Griff|> When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.
[19:33] <Vermoot> surfdue, ;)
[19:33] <bekks> ImQ009: I am sorry. I didnt gget what you were saying.
[19:34] <surfdue> Vermoot, hopefully someone can help you here.
[19:35] <ImQ009> bekks, What I'm trying to say is even Ubuntu is too confusing for me :/ I fail to install one single piece of software
[19:35] <Calinou> ImQ009: you didn't see what Griff| said
[19:35] <Calinou> that's 300% more confusing
[19:35] <ImQ009> Just installing the operating system took me literally whole, WHOLE day
[19:35] <bekks> ImQ009: Because you do it like you did on Windows. Download something, doubleclick it, hope the best. Thats not how to install software in Ubuntu.
[19:36] <ImQ009> bekks, That's why I never used it :P I'm not a patient person
[19:36]  * Calinou can vouch for it
[19:36] <ImQ009> Fiddling around with just installing something has always been annoying for me
[19:37] <bekks> ImQ009: [#ubuntu]
[19:37] <bekks> ImQ009: Sorry.
[19:37] <bekks> ImQ009: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/google_chrome
[19:37]  * ImQ009 googles "How to install Chrome on ubuntu"
[19:37] <Vermoot> ImQ009, installing software on ubuntu is way easier than it is on Windows. You just have to learn how for a bit and then it'll all be good ;)
[19:37] <Calinou> "Thats not how to install software in Ubuntu."
[19:37] <Calinou> meanwhile: advocates PPAs
[19:37] <ImQ009> Vermoot, I don't think it is :P
[19:37] <ImQ009> Not for me at least
[19:38] <Calinou> now you know why I say chrome is bad
[19:38] <ImQ009> ESPECIALLY if I have to download and configure libs for every thing I want to install
[19:38] <Vermoot> ImQ009, in a lot of cases installing software is just typing one line in a terminal, or similar to installing an app on a smartphone.
[19:38] <ImQ009> Right now I'm trying to figure out how to enter super user
[19:38] <OerHeks> the package on the chrome page is just a ppa AFAIK, you might want chromium-browser, without the pdf reader flash and serial number
[19:39] <f00bar80> ppl any comment
[19:39] <ImQ009> But at the moment all it says auth failiture
[19:39] <ImQ009> And I have no damn idea why
[19:39] <ImQ009> I'm using the same password I used when I prompted me during some installations under Soft Center
[19:41] <Calinou> are you really sure? check keyboard layout and caps lock and num lock
[19:41] <Calinou> ImQ009: don't use sudo su
[19:43] <ImQ009> Calinou, How am I supposed to install it without sudo/su
[19:44] <Calinou> sudo <your command here>
[19:44] <Calinou> you just don't use sudo su
[19:44] <Pici> Calinou means "sudo su" as one command
[19:46] <f00bar80> even how to manually connect to multiple servers using ssh as th way it's done in MTPUTTY?
[19:47] <gordonjcp> f00bar80: open a tab, run ssh
[19:48] <ImQ009> Calinou, I didn't use sudo su
[19:48] <ImQ009> Why would I?
[19:48] <Calinou> we never know
[19:48] <ImQ009> I tried this http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/10/heres-how-to-install-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal/
[19:48] <ImQ009> Doesn't work :P
[19:48] <ImQ009> How the hell do you install Chrome on Ubuntu?
[19:48] <f00bar80> gordonjcp, i want credentials/ports to be save for every server, with no need to fill them every timne
[19:49] <apes>  /leave
[19:49] <bindi> ImQ009: download 32 bit or 64 bit .deb from http://google.com/chrome - doubleclick on the file downloaded, shouldn't be hard
[19:49] <mrrcp> f00bar80: ssh keys?
[19:50] <ImQ009> bindi, That's what I did
[19:50] <mrrcp> !sshkey
[19:50] <mrrcp> hmm
[19:50] <ImQ009> It complains about missing libs
[19:51] <zippo^> has firefox-launchpad-plugin no .xpi ?
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> ImQ009  try chromium-browser from teh repos https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[19:52] <fudus> download the .deb, double click, hit install?
[19:52] <OerHeks> or perform " sudo apt-get install -f  " to correct missing libs
[19:52] <irreverant> based on that link; chrome is better hands down
[19:52] <fudus> it is the same as a msi in windows
[19:53] <fudus> but with less "next"
[19:53] <ImQ009> I tried sudo apt-get install libxss1:i386
[19:54] <ImQ009> It says "the package is not available, but is referred to by another package. this may mean that the packager is missing ..........." I'm sure you know the rest of that error
[19:54] <ImQ009> E: Package 'name' has no installation candidate
[19:54] <ImQ009> HOW DO YOU INSTALL THIS THING!
[19:54] <fudus> do another update, one of the servers is down
[19:54] <ImQ009> Update? What kind of update?
[19:55] <fudus> or click the software update and let it do it in a gui-way
[19:55] <fudus> updater*
[19:55] <f00bar80> mrrcp, how ? any guide?
[19:56] <ImQ009> fudus, Ok, I got to the updater
[19:56] <ImQ009> It asked me about updated version of soft center
[19:56] <ImQ009> And it says "Package does not exist"
[19:56] <fudus> check for updates, let it finish, then let it update
[19:57] <awaad> Is there any application that helps me to manage my access into different servers with different IPs and different credentials?
[19:58] <irreverant> is peppermint os based on ubuntu?
[19:58] <awaad> irreverant: I am using ubuntu.
[19:59] <irreverant> yes; i'm thinking of installing a linux distro on my dell mini not sure if it's going to stay as ubuntu
[19:59] <Pici> awaad: Like a password safe?
[20:00] <awaad> Pici: Like "Putty" and saves access credentials.
[20:00] <Pici> awaad: Theres Putty.
[20:00] <Pici> !info putty
[20:01] <ImQ009> I'm already scared how much time setting up Wine is gonna take :(
[20:01] <irreverant> putty is awesome!
[20:01] <ImQ009> I'm not sure whether I'll be able to make it in time
[20:01] <irreverant> does anyone recommend peppermint os?
[20:01] <Pici> irreverant: We only support Ubuntu here, so not really, no.
[20:03] <JohnMichaelFFS> Hey, I'm having some issues with a mdadm array on a fresh install of 12.04.3 server
[20:03] <JohnMichaelFFS> One of my RAID1 arrays was reported as degraded on the second boot, so I tried removing and re-adding the degraded device to the array, but now when i boot the system it gets stuck in a loop
[20:04] <JohnMichaelFFS> it prints out the log messages about the array still being degraded and rebuilding, but the boot freezes and then the same message output again every 30 or so seconds
[20:04] <JohnMichaelFFS> any ideas on what is going on?
[20:07] <irreverant> does ubuntu support conky?
[20:08] <Calinou> irreverant: yes
[20:10] <Griff|> Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as
[20:10] <Griff|> bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).
[20:10] <Griff|> When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.
[20:10] <FloodBot1> Griff|: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:10] <bekks> Griff|: Too long; didnt read.
[20:11] <alex1989> hello, could somebody help me, please? :(
[20:11] <zykotick9> alex1989: ask a question and see ;)
[20:12] <alex1989> okay well, i just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu on a new laptop and all i get is a black screen prompting me to login
[20:12] <alex1989> so i do, and its just..still black screen and text
[20:12] <alex1989> the installation went fine, had the full gui so i assumed nothing went wrong
[20:12] <bekks> alex1989: Which text?
[20:12] <alex1989> just asking me to login
[20:12] <bekks> alex1989: And after login in, what happens?
[20:13] <alex1989> just the command line, nothing else
[20:13] <alex1989> very strange
[20:13] <bekks> alex1989: So your X doesnt start up. Take a look at the logs to see what happens.
[20:13] <alex1989> how do i do that, bekks?
[20:13] <zykotick9> alex1989: did you use the regular desktop ubuntu install?  or server or mini?
[20:13] <alex1989> i am fairly certain i used the regular desktop installation, else surely the install would not have used the gui?
[20:14] <Griff|> Sigh, I take it nobody knows / has had experience with my issue then. Is there a better place I can ask my question?
[20:14] <zykotick9> alex1989: "lspci | grep -i vga"
[20:14] <alex1989> sorry for stealing your thunder, griff.
[20:14] <bekks> Griff|: I just refused to read, because your text was too long :)
[20:15] <alex1989> keeps saying command not found, is that an I at the start?
[20:15] <alex1989> or an L?
[20:15] <alex1989> ahh it was an l. forgive me
[20:16] <user154> pw bots in here?
[20:16] <bekks> user154: No.
[20:16] <greenut> hey how i can execute adb comand on terminal
[20:16] <alex1989> not much comes up, just "VGA compatible controller: advanced micro devices [AMD]
[20:16] <user154> k
[20:16] <greenut>  ubuntu@ubuntu:~/HTC$ adb push flash_image /data/local/
[20:16] <greenut>  cannot stat 'flash_image': No such file or directory
[20:16] <greenut>  it says on terminal. whats wrong
[20:16] <alex1989> model is Radeon HD 8210
[20:16] <bekks> greenut: The file "flash_image" does not exist.
[20:16] <greenut> anyone help me... im runing live cd
[20:17] <greenut>  ubuntu@ubuntu:~/HTC$ adb push flash_image /data/local/
[20:17] <greenut>  cannot stat 'flash_image': No such file or directory
[20:17] <greenut>  it says on terminal. whats wrong
[20:17] <bekks> greenut: The file "flash_image" does not exist.
[20:18] <greenut> yeah im running  ubuntu live cd
[20:18] <greenut> how to solve it?
[20:18] <bekks> greenut: By replacing "flash_image" with the correct filename.
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> greenut  and what is it supposed to do?
[20:18] <alex1989> so i entered the command and it hasnt really given me any logs regarding errors, it just tells me the model of the GPU
[20:18] <greenut> i need access my phone to root
[20:19] <alex1989> what would be the next step?
[20:19] <bekks> alex1989: Thats what the command should do. TEl you which graphics card you have.
[20:19] <alex1989> ah, well its an Radeon HD 8210
[20:19] <bekks> greenut: Then replace "flash_image" with the correct filename.
[20:19] <alex1989> im aware AMD support on linux is a little flaky, but im not exactly gaming on a gpu that low-end
[20:20] <greenut> http://pastebin.com/embed_iframe.php?i=4pY738C5
[20:20] <greenut> im struggling on that part: 4. Enter the following commands (in bold):
[20:20] <greenut> it doesnt let me access
[20:20] <bekks> greenut: Then replace "flash_image" with the correct filename.
[20:21] <greenut> sorry. which flash_image ure talking abt?
[20:21] <bekks> greenut: The one you are typing in that command.
[20:21] <greenut> my directory where files is in the home/HTC
[20:21] <bekks> greenut: If you dont know what you are doing there, you should not root your phone.
[20:22] <greenut> let me investigate. hd on.
[20:22] <alex1989> bekks, any suggestions on what to do next? :)
[20:22] <alex1989> appreciate your help
[20:22] <bekks> alex1989: Sorry, no. I am refusing to deliberately using ATI/AMD grpahics cards since my first own computer.
[20:23] <Calinou> read: nvidia fanboy
[20:23] <MonkeyDust> intel here, never any issues
[20:23] <bekks> Calinou: realist, not fanboy.
[20:23] <alex1989> i guess i'll go try the forums then, thanks for your help anyway
[20:23] <Calinou> yes, fanboy
[20:23] <Calinou> but I gtg :P
[20:23] <Calinou> bekks: you clearly haven't used AMD stuff recently
[20:24] <bekks> Calinou: I wont do it, though.
[20:24] <p1l0t> In fstab should be /Expansion Drive/ or /Expansion\ Drive/
[20:24] <bazhang> !behelpful | Calinou
[20:24] <mn3na3a> question: should i upgrade my ram to 6 GB instead of 4GB ?
[20:24] <bekks> p1l0t: The latter.
[20:24] <Calinou> depends on what you do
[20:24] <bekks> mn3na3a: If you need 6GB of RAM, then yes.
[20:24] <p1l0t> bekks: thanks
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> mn3na3a  if you feel more comfortable with 6GB, then yes
[20:25] <mn3na3a> for my usage my rams takes up to like 60 - 70% but i wonder if i upgraded my ram would my system be faster?
[20:25] <Calinou> no
[20:25] <bekks> mn3na3a: Unused RAM is wasted RAM.
[20:25] <Calinou> RAM doesn't mean performance
[20:26] <bekks> mn3na3a: Please read http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[20:26] <mn3na3a> then i should stick with the 4GB?
[20:26] <mn3na3a> thx bekks :)
[20:28] <f00bar80> anybody can point me on how to automate servers' ssh remote access in ubuntu without using keys?
[20:29] <bekks> !ssh | f00bar80
[20:29] <krambiorix> hi, i want to set my apache locale to dutch ... How can i do that without modifying the ubuntu locale?
[20:30] <cn28h> strange issue I'm having -- I upgraded from 12.04 -> 12.10 and no issues.  I then upgraded to 13.04 and had some display issues. Unity wasn't coming up, but I fixed that by enabling unity and window decorations and opengl etc in the compiz settings manager
[20:30] <cn28h> after doing that I have unity again and window decorations, but I can't move windows by their title bars
[20:30] <cn28h> I upgraded to 13.10 just to see if it would help, but same problem
[20:30] <cn28h> any ideas what might cause that ?
[20:32] <Kinglet> hello all. my brightness get low and high after seconds when i'm watching via VLC
[20:32] <zykotick9> cn28h: if you are on 13.10 now, try #ubuntu+1 as it's not supported here (yet)
[20:32] <cn28h> aight
[20:32] <Kinglet> when it's idle get low and again get hight and ...
[20:32] <Kinglet> high*
[20:33] <Kinglet> anyone knows a solution?
[20:37] <loa> hello, i am trying to add unity://desktop-icon to com.canonical.Unity.Launcher using dconf-editor, all added correctrly but after relog it dissapears from unity launcher.
[20:38] <prp-e> when Ubuntu 13.10 Beta 1 will be released?!
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> prp-e  not, beta's only for kubuntu, xubuntu and lubuntu
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> prp-e  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule
[20:44] <jared_> hi
[20:44] <Guest66166> anyone here?
[20:44] <prp-e> MonkeyDust, According to that link, It should be released yesterday !
[20:45] <Guest66166> anyone here?? i need help
[20:45] <Guest66166> ANYone HERE
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> prp-e  1) it's still 26the here   2) not sure if it's for ubuntu or for the 'opt in flavors'
[20:46] <prp-e> MonkeyDust, If you live in GB , time should be about 9:30 PM.
[20:46] <prp-e> I have to wait for it :)
[20:47] <glycan> Hello. I booted in text mode, now I can't start x.
[20:47] <linuxuz3r> try startx
[20:47] <glycan> Yeah, I know. It doesn't work.
[20:48] <linuxuz3r> what error do you get
[20:48] <glycan> xinit: connection to X server lost
[20:48] <glycan> then it seems to be normal X termination
[20:49] <Guest66166> u need to connect to wifi and do sudo apt-get xinit
[20:49] <glycan> "waiting for X server to shut down  ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log\nServer terminated successfully (0). Closing log file."
[20:49] <linuxuz3r> glycan try ps aux | grep xserver
[20:49] <glycan> nothing
[20:50] <glycan> Guest66166: xinit is installed and at the latest version
[20:51] <linuxuz3r> what happens if you try to boot normally
[20:51] <glycan> I can boot normally
[20:51] <glycan> but I'd rather not
[20:51] <linuxuz3r> ?
[20:51] <linuxuz3r> are you root when you try startx?
[20:52] <zykotick9> glycan: how are you trying to start xorg exactly?
[20:56] <greenut> bekks: hey found my problem... i had to extract everything. now i have another problem. look at http://pastebin.com/1BMv4sFX
[20:56] <greenut> it says permission is denied at end
[20:56] <greenut> how to get around it. im running ubuntu live cd.
[20:58] <glycan> linuxuz3r: yes, I am
[20:58] <glycan> zykotick9: startx
[20:58] <greenut> bekks: hi, i solved my problem. can you please check it.. can u help me? check at http://pastebin.com/1BMv4sFX
[20:58] <glycan> I want to use text-only by default
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> !text
[20:59] <greenut> how to get around with permission denied running ubuntu live cd?
[20:59] <greenut> using adb shell command
[20:59] <glycan> So how do I start X properly?
[21:00] <linuxuz3r> when you boot in safe mode i dont think you can startx
[21:00] <gordonjcp> !x | glycan
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> greenut  if you don't get an answer here, try asking in #ubuntu-touch
[21:00] <linuxuz3r> let me boot my laptop
[21:00] <zykotick9> glycan: perhaps "sudo service lightdm start" (but there is some, other way ubuntu is using these days...)
[21:00] <greenut> hey anyone can help me how to get around with command adb shell - permission denied? please check at http://pastebin.com/1BMv4sFX
[21:00] <glycan> zykotick9: thanks, that works!
[21:01] <greenut> ok thank you, MonkeyDust.
[21:04] <linuxuz3r> glycan how exactly did you boot in text mode
[21:07] <greenut> hey anyone can help me how to get around with command adb shell - permission denied? please check at http://pastebin.com/1BMv4sFX
[21:08] <gregor30051> hi, i try to connect my wiimote to ubuntu 13 but i have the problem that i can't load the module uinput "sudo modprobe uinput", lsmod do not display it after i run the command and i get no error message. can anybody help?
[21:09] <linuxuz3r> greenut, you are not in ubuntu anymore when you execute line 14
[21:12] <Griff|> Hi guys. I'm having some issues installing ubuntu on a RAID via a HighPoint 2640x4 with encrypted FS. I am building and installing the drivers (RR264x_Linux_Src_v1.6.1_13_08_23.tar.gz) in the live OS, going through the installation process selecting: Erase entire disk, encrypt the disk, LVM, and let ubuntu sort the partitioning out for me. My raid is configured with a 2.5tb RAID[5] marked as
[21:12] <Griff|> bootable for nix, an 8GB RAID[0] for swap, and a 660gb RAID[0] for windows games (The winOS boots from an SSD).
[21:13] <Griff|> When the install completes and restarts, the computer acts as if there is nothing to boot and sits there flashing the emtpty character cursor. Does anyone know where I might be going wrong? Also I did not specify the swap location during install, I assume this went to the 2.5tb RAID[5] along with / and boot.
[21:13] <soman> Why xubuntu 12.04 doesn't recognize canon photocamera? It recognized it yesterday but dosn't do that today. Windows always recognizes it well. lsusb _ dmesg outputs => http://paste.kde.org/pf1c2d548/23000313/
[21:17] <Griff|> this channel is useless :(
[21:17] <gordonjcp> !patience | Griff|
[21:18] <SunTsu> Griff|: You're going wrong where you use the hardware RAID
[21:18] <irssi-mike> Griff|: What's your question
[21:18] <gordonjcp> Griff|: and also, you're doing it wrong where you use encrypted partitions
[21:18] <lord2800> hi, I'm having an issue with audio on ubuntu 13.04 server--it works via speaker-test, but not via XBMC
[21:19] <Griff|> Can I not encrypt the lvm on the raid?
[21:19] <gordonjcp> Griff|: have you done it before?
[21:19] <SunTsu> Griff|: Hardware RAID will get you in trouble, use Linux' RAID facilities and better encrypt the whole disk
[21:19] <gregor30051> can anybody help when the kernel module uinput can't be loaded? (http://www.circuitdb.com/?p=598)
[21:19] <Griff|> No, never, I figured why would it not be possible? RAID is virtulized into a logical drive anyway so whats the difference?
[21:19] <gordonjcp> Griff|: well it sounds massively overcomplicated
[21:20] <lord2800> I've configured /etc/asound.conf to use device hw:0,3 as the pcm default, and when I do speaker-test it either doesn't pick that up or doesn't use it; if I do speaker-test -D hw:0,3 it works
[21:20] <SunTsu> Griff|: The difference is: If your controller breaks your data probably is gone too
[21:20] <Griff|> But with RAID[5] I suffer a massive performance hit with soft raid
[21:20] <Griff|> Thats fine
[21:20] <irssi-mike> lord2800: is xmbc in the audio group
[21:20] <gordonjcp> Griff|: if your machine can't deal with soft RAID it will be even worse with encryption
[21:20] <Griff|> I have a 4tb I'm planning to automate backups to
[21:20] <lord2800> yes
[21:20] <lord2800> (that threw me at first too)
[21:21] <Griff|> believe me, my machine can deal with soft raid, but thats not the issue.
[21:21] <lord2800> speaker-test works without any options when run as root, but not as the xbmc user
[21:21] <gordonjcp> Griff|: how experienced are you with setting up Linux on complex arrangements of drives?
[21:22] <oz0ne> gordonjcp: can't be that exp. as of then he would have read up on the container and lvm on theyr pages. and maybe taken the point of using the software raid.
[21:23] <gordonjcp> Griff|: keep it simple
[21:23] <Griff|> Indeed, I'm not. I have a vague idea of where I want to be though
[21:23] <seynb> Griff: sounds like your bootloader if it's just blinking cursor
[21:23] <gordonjcp> seynb: yees
[21:23] <lord2800> hmm, it seems it's making a liar out of me now, without an X server running (but with pulseaudio -vv running), it doesn't work at all
[21:23] <seynb> Griff: where did you install grub ?
[21:23] <Griff|> Thats what I thought, but boot is there.
[21:23] <gordonjcp> could be just as simple as installing grub to the wrong place ;-)
[21:23] <Griff|> It was handled by ubuntu install. I assume it went to the bootable raid partition i selected for the install.
[21:24] <Griff|> Hmm
[21:24] <delinquentme> I'm in a dir w a ton of directory ... I want to get the total HD space taken up by all files starting with " ex1202"
[21:24] <gregor30051> can anybody help when the kernel module uinput can't be loaded? (http://www.circuitdb.com/?p=598)
[21:24] <seynb> Griff : see ubuntu is not good for advanced setups i have luks/lvm/fakeraid but i had to set it up manually
[21:24] <Griff|> Yes I have seen a few articles speaking of such
[21:24] <delinquentme> something like du -sh ./ex1202  ... except the sum total ... not the individual values for each
[21:25] <Griff|> What sort of read/write do you get and out of what disks?
[21:25] <Griff|> and config
[21:25] <irssi-mike> lord2800: what happens if you login as xmbx then do alsamixer, is that possible?
[21:25] <irssi-mike> xmbc*
[21:26] <Griff|> Hmm, for refrence, where should grub be installed?
[21:26] <Griff|> ./boot/grub if i remember?
[21:27] <seynb> Griff : yeah but then grub-install has to put the core image on the mbr/partition
[21:27] <Ben64> the files for it yeah... but it gets installed in the mbr
[21:27] <lord2800> irssi-mike: I see the standard alsamixer screen, with the correct card selected by default, and no muted outputs
[21:27] <Griff|> Hm
[21:27] <Griff|> This could possibly be the issue.
[21:28] <seynb> Griff: your best bet is to read this and https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/System_Encryption_with_LUKS
[21:28] <irssi-mike> lord2800: gnome-alsamixer too?
[21:28] <lord2800> not running gnome
[21:28] <irssi-mike> well even still
[21:28] <gordonjcp> Griff|: simplify it for now, and concentrate on adding the RAID arrays later
[21:28] <Griff|> will this not be incompatible with ubuntu to some extent?
[21:28] <irssi-mike> might hace something muted
[21:28] <gordonjcp> Griff|: leave the encryption stuff off too
[21:29] <Griff|> Hmm
[21:29] <lord2800> I suspect it's something to do with the card it's trying to use in XBMC, now that I'm fiddling with options here--speaker-test -D hdmi works as the xbmc user
[21:29] <Griff|> What would be the mininum space i would want for booting the OS on an SSD?
[21:29] <AdityaRaj> hi
[21:29] <Griff|> I don't have much to play with.
[21:29] <gordonjcp> Griff|: 8GB ought to be plenty
[21:29] <oz0ne> if i am not to rusty, put /boot on a accessable none encypted. anyway i recommand reading the whole FAQ for LUKS at http://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#2._Setup
[21:29] <AdityaRaj> i need some help with my ubuntu installation
[21:29] <SonikkuAmerica> !raid
[21:29] <gordonjcp> Griff|: especially if you stick /home on another drive
[21:30] <Griff|> Thanks
[21:30] <seynb> Griff: if you have encryption then you have to check your /etc/crypttab probably do an update-initramfs and make sure your grub config passes root=/dev/mapper/root_decrypted
[21:30] <Griff|> Yes
[21:30] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: What kind of help, sir?
[21:30] <Griff|> Oooh
[21:30] <AdityaRaj> i need to setup bootable stick but i am unable to format it with fat32
[21:30] <linuxuz3r> later
[21:30] <AdityaRaj> i have used the inbuilt device manager
[21:30] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Device manager? Are you on Windows?
[21:30] <AdityaRaj> but ubootnetin does not seem to be able to detect my pen drive still
[21:30] <AdityaRaj> no
[21:30] <AdityaRaj> i am on ubuntu
[21:30] <AdityaRaj> i read somewhere that i need to use gparted maybe
[21:31] <gregor30051> does anybody use a wiimote under ubuntu?
[21:31] <AdityaRaj> but when i try to install gparted with aptget i get errors
[21:31] <Griff|> Thanks so much guys. Saving this chat.
[21:31] <seynb> AdityaRaj : can you do a sudo fdisk -l
[21:31] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Can you !pastebin them for us?
[21:31] <AdityaRaj> sure
[21:31] <f00bar80> anybody can point me on how to automate servers' ssh remote access without using keys?
[21:31] <AdityaRaj> with the pen drive mounted ?
[21:31] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Yes.
[21:32] <Shining_KoW210> Hey everyone
[21:32] <Shining_KoW210> I need help with TightVNC
[21:32] <irssi-mike> AdityaRaj: be careful with that, no long filenames
[21:33] <AdityaRaj> Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
[21:33] <AdityaRaj> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders
[21:33] <AdityaRaj> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[21:33] <AdityaRaj> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
[21:33] <AdityaRaj> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
[21:33] <FloodBot1> AdityaRaj: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:33] <AdityaRaj> Disk identifier: 0x0000ada3
[21:33] <SonikkuAmerica> !pastebin
[21:33] <Shining_KoW210> !pastebin
[21:33] <Shining_KoW210> Hmm
[21:33] <Shining_KoW210> !pastebin
[21:34] <Shining_KoW210> Hey everyone
[21:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Shining_KoW210: Once I !flag the bot, it doesn't do anything for ~15-20 seconds (to prevent spam).
[21:34] <SonikkuAmerica> (or anyone else)
[21:34] <Shining_KoW210> I just wasn't sure what it did.
[21:35] <AdityaRaj> Not sure if my message got through earlier.. guess i was blocked.. here is the paste url: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6160498/
[21:36] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, u still there?
[21:36] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Yep. Trying to read your pastebin.
[21:36] <AdityaRaj> thanks
[21:37] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Is /dev/sdc your USB drive?
[21:38] <glycan> service lightdm start works, but doesn't let me log in
[21:38] <glycan> I soon as I log in successfully, it switches back to text then back to an non-logged-in graphical login screen
[21:40] <LeftCheekSneak> Is there a doctor in the house? :-)
[21:40] <Phantombrain> hello
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> Nope.
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[21:41] <Phantombrain> ;)
[21:41] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Hello?
[21:44] <glycan> chown glycan:glycan .Xauthority fixed it
[21:44] <LeftCheekSneak> Anyone know if you can you run Ubuntu 13.04 on a Commadore 64?
[21:45] <jhutchins> glycan: Good catch!
[21:45] <glycan> can you explain why?
[21:45] <LeftCheekSneak> I want to make it my pentest box.
[21:47] <SonikkuAmerica> LeftCheekSneak: I wish you much luck... Lubuntu 13.10 maybe, but don't count on it.
[21:47] <glycan> that was to jhutchins
[21:47] <SonikkuAmerica> LeftCheekSneak: Unless you want Ubuntu Server for a CLI
[21:47] <glycan> I'm running Lubuntu on a box with <1GB RAM
[21:49] <LeftCheekSneak> What you use that box for glycan?
[21:49] <glycan> coding, web
[21:49] <LeftCheekSneak> Cool
[21:50] <gordonjcp> I tried Lubuntu but it was quite buggy
[21:50] <gordonjcp> I'm using normal Ubuntu on a box with 1GB of RAM
[21:50] <glycan> really? I haven't seen anything at all so far
[21:50] <glycan> screen, links, irssi, finch, asciiview, vi and I'm mostly OK.
[21:50] <glycan> what do you use?
[21:51] <glycan> the graphical interface seems meh, though
[21:51] <gordonjcp> glycan: lxde crashes all the time when I run firefox
[21:51] <glycan> ...firefox?
[21:51] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive ever seen lxde crash on me
[21:51] <SonikkuAmerica> glycan: That's what Lubuntu is _for_ , really.
[21:51] <SonikkuAmerica> gordonjcp: Is that so? Innnnteresting.
[21:51] <glycan> SonikkuAmerica: what?
[21:51] <gordonjcp> glycan: yeah, I've never been able to reliably *cause* the crashes but they seem to be related to indications when a download finishes
[21:52] <SonikkuAmerica> glycan: Lubuntu is geared toward low-RAM systems.
[21:52] <gordonjcp> glycan: the firefox thing in the bar at the bottom flashes and won't stop flashing, and if you close firefox when it's doing that LXDE crashes
[21:52] <glycan> SonikkuAmerica: oh. well, yes, that's why I'm using it
[21:52] <gordonjcp> sometimes hard enough to take out X
[21:52] <SonikkuAmerica> glycan: :)
[21:52] <gordonjcp> it's also a bit greedy on memory
[21:52] <glycan> gordonjcp: why are you using firefox?
[21:52] <SonikkuAmerica> gordonjcp, glycan: With 13.10 comes zRAM support.
[21:53] <gordonjcp> glycan: because it's what I use
[21:53] <gordonjcp> glycan: and it's what you kind of need to check web pages in
[21:53] <glycan> oh, okay, web dev makes sense
[21:53] <gordonjcp> glycan: why, what do you use?
[21:53] <glycan> I wouldn't be using firefox at all for 1GB RAM
[21:54] <glycan> links
[21:54] <glycan> it's a console browser
[21:54] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, sorry i guess i got disconnected
[21:54] <gordonjcp> glycan: okay, so not really usable then
[21:54] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Don't worry, I'll pull up the case.
[21:54] <glycan> it does nearly everything I need it to do
[21:54] <gordonjcp> glycan: I know what links is, I just don't know why anyone would bother
[21:54] <lord2800> how can I find out what device speaker-test means when it says "default"?
[21:54] <glycan> gordonjcp: it does everything I want
[21:54] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: All right. From your output from [ lsusb ], is /dev/sdc your USB drive?
[21:54] <gordonjcp> glycan: firefox works just fine in less that 1GB
[21:55] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, yes it is
[21:55] <glycan> really? huh
[21:55] <glycan> what can't you do in links?
[21:55] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Open up a terminal
[21:55] <gordonjcp> glycan: I'm running a normal 12.04 on a machine with 512MB of RAM
[21:55] <AdityaRaj> ok
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive had any real issues with lubuntu and firefox on my 1gb netbook.
[21:55] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: and [ sudo parted /dev/sdc ]
[21:55] <glycan> for me it's not so much as firefox or anything but the insurmountable lag of graphics in general
[21:56] <gordonjcp> glycan: you can't use github, you can't use youtube, you can't use facebook, twitter, it looks crap
[21:56] <glycan> yes, i can
[21:56] <glycan> dedicated stuff
[21:56] <glycan> fbcmd, finc for youtube
[21:56] <gordonjcp> glycan: I left all that textmode shit behind 30 years ago
[21:56] <glycan> finch*
[21:56] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica,  i am there
[21:56] <glycan> I mean for facebook. various console scripts for github
[21:56] <BlueProtoman> I'm nuking my Ubuntu installation and starting from scratch.  I'm repartitioning the space I originally gave to Ubuntu; I assume that my /home partition's mount point is /home, and my system's mount point is / (root)?
[21:56] <glycan> I assume that there's stuff for twitter and yotube sound
[21:57] <gordonjcp> BlueProtoman: yes
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> BlueProtoman:  yes. '/' is called the root of the filesystem
[21:57] <gordonjcp> glycan: yes, just use a normal browser
[21:57] <glycan> normal browser = graphics
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> BlueProtoman:  dont forget your swap partition also. ;)
[21:57] <BlueProtoman> Dr_Willis: How much space would you give to the system, if I originally had 450GB allocated to 13.04?
[21:57] <glycan> graphics = can't mutlitask
[21:57] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: How big do you want your partition to be?
[21:57] <gordonjcp> correct
[21:57] <BlueProtoman> Dr_Willis: Yep, 6 gigs, equal to my RAM.
[21:57] <gordonjcp> glycan: why can't graphics "multitask"?
[21:58] <glycan> because everything slows down to a crawl
[21:58] <gordonjcp> BlueProtoman: you can fit an install into about 8GB, but you really want more
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> BlueProtoman:  depends on your needs.  perhaps 50 for / if you want to be  sure you never run out. rest for home and swap.  for 6gb of ram. You really only need 6+gb of swap if you plan on using that suspend-to-ram stuff.
[21:58] <gordonjcp> glycan: then your system is too old, or broken
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> ive filled up 30gb / befor. ;)
[21:58] <AdityaRaj> i dont really care about that
[21:59] <gordonjcp> glycan: come and have some 512MB P4 machines, free for the taking.  They run normal Unity desktop just fine
[21:59] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, it is a 32gb drive i can use it whole
[21:59] <AdityaRaj> i want to make it a bootable pendrive to install ubuntu on my laptop
[21:59] <glycan> free?
[21:59] <glycan> o.0
[21:59] <gordonjcp> glycan: oh okay
[21:59] <gordonjcp> glycan: haul away four and I'll pay your petrol
[21:59] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: To span the whole USB stick, type in >>> mkpartfs primary fat32 0 32768
[21:59] <glycan> is this like a free-as-in-liberty kind of thing?
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> but he lives on the south pole. ;)
[22:00] <gordonjcp> glycan: this is free-as-in-get-the-damn-things-out-of-my-workshop thing
[22:00] <glycan> oh
[22:00] <gordonjcp> glycan: they are not, however inexpensive-as-in-won't-guzzle-electricity
[22:00] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, i get Error: The location 32768 is outside of the device /dev/sdc.
[22:00] <glycan> heh. In all honesty, I've grown to prefer this to what lubuntu looks like
[22:01] <AdityaRaj> there is already a partition there
[22:01] <AdityaRaj> maybe we need to delete that first?
[22:01] <glycan> and I can always just turn on graphics to watch moveis or whatever
[22:01] <glycan> movies*
[22:01] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Oh! No need to delete it...
[22:01] <gordonjcp> glycan: here's a funny one
[22:01] <glycan> gordonjcp: pardon?
[22:01] <gordonjcp> glycan: open two terminals, and then open the settings panel in LXDE
[22:01] <gordonjcp> glycan: change the window manager theme in LXDE
[22:02] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Simply change the filesystem type with >>> mkfs 1 fat32
[22:02] <gordonjcp> glycan: change it a few times, in fact
[22:02] <gordonjcp> glycan: what has happened to the terminals?
[22:02] <glycan> is this supposed to be a lubuntu-is-buggy thing?
[22:02] <BlueProtoman> Dr_Willis: Is it a problem if the swap size is *just under* 6GB (my RAM)?
[22:02] <gordonjcp> glycan: it's a bug that's been there for three years
[22:03] <LeftCheekSneak> I never heard of lunbuntu, going to have to look into it.
[22:03] <SonikkuAmerica> LeftCheekSneak: www.lubuntu.net
[22:03] <AdityaRaj> i got invalid token 1
[22:03] <irssi-mike> gordonjcp: just gonna say about firefox, i'm on 1gb ram, give midori a try
[22:03] <LeftCheekSneak> Thank you SonikkuAmerica
[22:04] <gordonjcp> irssi-mike: midori doesn't really work well
[22:04] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: type >>> quit <<< then reinvoke it with [ sudo parted /dev/sdc1 ] and see what happens.
[22:05] <LeftCheekSneak> Soni, from what I just read, it sounds like it would be a perfert port for a raspberrypi.
[22:05] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, i got invalid token 1
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> BlueProtoman:  only if you want to use that suspend to ram stuff. *i never use that feature*  so i can get by with veyr lkittle swap on my mahcines
[22:05] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Did you exit parted?
[22:06] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: And reinvoke it for /dev/sdc1
[22:06] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[22:06] <BlueProtoman> Dr_Willis: I do plan on using it, but I want to be sure that being a few megabytes shy doesn't botch it all up, as getting the exact amounts right is a pain.
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> BlueProtoman:  if you plan on using it - you want to  use ram+a little bit more  i imagine
[22:06] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica,  no i did not i am still on that console only
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> since if may totally fail if its less then ram size
[22:06] <jmgk> hmm
[22:07] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Go ahead and quit parted (type "quit") and reinvoke parted for /dev/sdc1 : [ sudo parted /dev/sdc1 ]
[22:07] <BlueProtoman> Dr_Willis: What's "a little bit more", half a gig?  A quarter?
[22:07] <Dr_Willis> 256 mb to 512 id say
[22:08] <BlueProtoman> 512 it is.
[22:08] <Dr_Willis> I dont even think i have swap on this 8gb machine.
[22:08] <Guest53284> So when i want to scroll on a page i just push my cursor to the right side of the screen and click and drag, only problem is if you're really on the edge you can't select the scroll bar, is there any way to fix?
[22:08] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, Error: Could not stat device /dev/sdc1 - No such file or directory.
[22:09] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: OK, then we're doing it right... [ sudo parted -l ] please.
[22:09] <BlueProtoman> Dr_Willis: Does Linux run faster if I order the /home, system, and swap partitions in a certain way?
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> BlueProtoman:  i doubt if it will matter in any measureable way.  Having them on differnt hard drives can help ;)  but i doubt if it will be very noticeable for most desktop-ussage-cases
[22:10] <BlueProtoman> Dr_Willis: What would you say is not in "most", out of curiosity?
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> BlueProtoman:  years ago having swap across differnt hard drives was a common trick. but these days - people use swap less and less
[22:11] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6160601/
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> BlueProtoman:  you doing anything weird with the system? or just daily common tasks.. if you want the best speed boost.  get a SSD drive. ;)
[22:11] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: There isn't even a partition on /dev/sdc .
[22:12] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: We need to make one. Type >>> mkpartfs primary fat32 0 32767
[22:12] <BlueProtoman> Dr_Willis: Coding games doesn't count as "weird", so I supposed not.  Just trying to be sure, as I want to get this right now rather than later.
[22:12] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: NOTE THE DIFFERENCE!
[22:13] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, still got the same error: Error: The location 32767 is outside of the device /dev/sdc.
[22:13] <BlueProtoman> Dr_Willis: One more thing.  When I removed the old Ubuntu partition in the partitioner, an NTFS partition on my drive (which I gave to Windows, but not for system files) took on the Ubuntu label in the "System" column.  Is that something I should be concerned about?
[22:14] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: You said before you had repo issues trying to install GParted.
[22:15] <AdityaRaj> yes
[22:15] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Mind a pastebin of [ sudo apt-get update ]
[22:15] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[22:15] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, su
[22:15] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, sure
[22:16] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: While you do that, I am going to head to a cafe. I'll be back in a moment.
[22:20] <kemmis> hey
[22:21] <jmgk> hello
[22:24] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6160623/
[22:24] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Thank you for waiting.
[22:24] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, where else could i go..
[22:24] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Good point. Well, I have some good news and some bad news.
[22:26] <Heeeeelp> hello
[22:26] <AdityaRaj> ok
[22:26] <Heeeeelp> can someone assist me in something
[22:26] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Do you want to bat first or bowl first? (Good news or bad news?)
[22:27] <Heeeeelp> yes
[22:27] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, bad news first please
[22:27] <gordonjcp> !help | Heeeeelp
[22:27] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: The bad news is, since Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty) is dead, its repos are no longer active.
[22:28] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Therefore, you have an impossible situation in terms of fetching stuff from the server.
[22:28] <AdityaRaj> ok
[22:28] <AdityaRaj> and what is the good news?
[22:28] <daftykins> i think you can get to old repos
[22:28] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Are you using Ubuntu proper (with Unity)?
[22:28] <daftykins> AdityaRaj: you get to upgrade? 8D
[22:28] <BlueProtoman> Dr_Willis?
[22:29] <peyam> hi
[22:29] <Heeeeelp> trying to install ubuntu and coming into a serious issue. I get past the partition screen and it tells me that I cant do anything until I remove the cddrive
[22:29] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, i am not sure i know how to answer that
[22:29] <peyam> I need a lightweight video recorder. Does anybody know?
[22:29] <ikonia> Heeeeelp: i'm sure it doesn't say that
[22:29] <ikonia> Heeeeelp: why don't you take a screen shot
[22:29] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: The thing with the top bar and the icons on the left side of the screen.
[22:29] <AdityaRaj> daftykins, i do not update.. i installed it once and then i ignore the updates
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> BlueProtoman:  sorry. i got to head to work. be back in about an hr or so.
[22:30] <Heeeeelp> i cant take a screenshot
[22:30] <AdityaRaj> i guess it used to be there but i closed that
[22:30] <daftykins> AdityaRaj: to a newer version i mean... also i said upgrade not update
[22:30] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: I'll tell ya right now, what you said to daftykins - bad idea.
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> peyam:  to record from what :) I use cheese to record from my webcam/video capture device.. good luck.
[22:30] <ikonia> Heeeeelp: why not ?
[22:30] <peyam> for my camera
[22:30] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, well i live in the fear of breaking things after update
[22:31] <Heeeeelp> trying to install ubuntu and coming into a serious issue. I get past the partition screen and it tells me that I cant do anything until I remove the cddrive
[22:31] <daftykins> AdityaRaj: i take it you don't do anything online that would make you unsafe with that outdated system?
[22:31] <Heeeeelp> sorry about repost
[22:31] <ikonia> Heeeeelp: yes, I told you, it's doubtful it's saying that, please take a screen shot or explain why you can't
[22:31] <Heeeeelp> i copied and pasted the same thing hold on
[22:31] <peyam> Heeeeelp: do you follow the installation steps as explained on the website?
[22:32] <peyam> Heeeeelp: how do you install ubuntu? CD?Usb?
[22:32] <Heeeeelp> CD
[22:32] <Heeeeelp> i followed exactly
[22:32] <AdityaRaj> daftykins, i do a lot of things online.. infact i am 24x7 online
[22:32] <Heeeeelp> but they leave out the problem parts :P
[22:33] <AdityaRaj> daftykins,  no you are scaring me
[22:33] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: I asked if you used Ubuntu mainly because I want to point you to the right image.
[22:33] <daftykins> AdityaRaj: this is really not a wise move, if you don't mind me saying so
[22:33] <Heeeeelp> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1237721 this is my issue
[22:33] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, mainly ?
[22:33] <Heeeeelp> his problem is simular to mine
[22:34] <BlueProtoman> Which partition should I install the device bootloader on when installing Ubuntu?
[22:34] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Or did you want GNOME, KDE, XFCE, LXDE...?
[22:34] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: /dev/sda if there's one disk and only ubuntu, no other OS
[22:34] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, i am so sorry but i dont even know the difference
[22:34] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: My point being, you need to release upgrade.
[22:34] <AdityaRaj> ok
[22:34] <peyam> Heeeeelp: choose ext3 as explained in the link you just posted
[22:35] <ikonia> Heeeeelp: and you're booting from a cdrom - not a usb ?
[22:35] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: I dual-boot Ubuntu and Windows 7.  I have Ubuntu now, but I'm reinstalling it.
[22:35] <Heeeeelp> for all of them
[22:35] <Heeeeelp> ext 4 isnt better?
[22:35] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Head for www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop and pick either Ubuntu 12.04 LTS or Ubuntu 13.04 (I'd recommend the former for you).
[22:35] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: so what's on the disk right now?
[22:35] <ikonia> ext4 is better, yes
[22:35] <peyam> Heeeeelp: never used ext3 but it might help
[22:35] <ikonia> (for your needs)
[22:36] <Heeeeelp> they why can i not use ext4 then i would rather
[22:36] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, but i wont be able to use it !!
[22:36] <ikonia> the file system on your machine is not really important, it seems to suggest you're trying to partition the cdrom
[22:36] <AdityaRaj> as i would again need to make a bootable drive and i cant
[22:36] <ikonia> Heeeeelp: can you please take a screen shot of the partition screen
[22:36] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: I don't understand... what do you mean you won't be able to use it?
[22:36] <AdityaRaj> i already have image for 12.04
[22:36] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: A Windows 7 partition (ntfs), an NTFS partition I made for Windows 7 (that contains no system files), and at present an Ubuntu partition with  swap, plus some miscellaneous partitions for system restore, bootup, etc.
[22:36] <Heeeeelp> I have now way of doing that
[22:36] <Heeeeelp> it freezes at that point
[22:36] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: Press the Windows logo key and type in "startup disk creator"
[22:37] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, i cant burn a disc , dont have a dvd writter.. so i need to make a bootable pen drive
[22:37] <ikonia> Heeeeelp: don't actually press the click that makes the message appear, just get a screen shot of the partitioner layout pleaes
[22:37] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: That's what Startup Disk Creator does.
[22:37] <Heeeeelp> i can take a picture with my phone
[22:37] <Heeeeelp> thats about it
[22:38] <ikonia> Heeeeelp: if you press print screen it should take a screen shot
[22:38] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, i dont have a cd drive on my system
[22:38] <Heeeeelp> and then what...the computer doesnt have any folders or anything to do that
[22:38] <Heeeeelp> I do not have any operating system
[22:39] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: The Startup Disk Creator is for creating bootable USB pendrives with Linux OSes.
[22:39] <ikonia> Heeeeelp: the livecd your installing from is the operating system
[22:39] <AdityaRaj> can you give me a link to the startup disk creator
[22:39] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: does it have the ~100MB boot partition in front of C: for win7?
[22:39] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, i have been using ubootnetin to no resolve
[22:39] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Yes.
[22:39] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: In a terminal, [ usb-creator-gtk & ]
[22:40] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: i'd have thought on that would work
[22:40] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: I don't have any issues at present with Ubuntu and Windows 7.  I'm just trying to keep it that way by making sure.
[22:40] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: So installing to /dev/sda; yes or no?
[22:40] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica,  would 11.04 lts iso work
[22:41] <ikonia> !away > AndresSM_away
[22:41] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: it's not like it can't be undone either way :)
[22:41] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: 11.04 (a) is no longer supported and (b) wasn't an LTS.
[22:41] <AdityaRaj> sorry, you must think i am fool
[22:41] <SonikkuAmerica> !11.04
[22:41] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: But my question.  Which partition should I install the bootloader on?
[22:41] <AdityaRaj> so which version do you recommend me to download?
[22:41] <daftykins> i thought i'd answered that
[22:42] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: 12.04 LTS.
[22:42] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: You did?
[22:42] <AdityaRaj> ok going to download that now and install it fresh on my machine.. see you after that
[22:42] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: All right...
[22:42] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, for how long are you around?
[22:43] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: All night, hopefully...
[22:43] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, do you work with ubuntu support?
[22:44] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: So, /dev/sda then?
[22:44] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: That's what this channel is for. Type !volunteer in your chat window.
[22:44] <AdityaRaj> !volunteer
[22:45] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: ja
[22:45] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Got it.  Thank you so much.
[22:45] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about volunteer
[22:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Err... hmm...
[22:45] <SonikkuAmerica> !volunteers
[22:46] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: And we come from all walks of life... from high-school to retirement.
[22:46] <AdityaRaj> well i cant appreciate all the help u r doing here.. good work SonikkuAmerica keep it up
[22:46] <SonikkuAmerica> ?!
[22:46] <daftykins> lol
[22:47] <daftykins> that's like the time my German housemates visited one of my friends and said "thank you for the hostility"
[22:47] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[22:47] <daftykins> SonikkuAmerica: it's ok, *I* appreciate you :(
[22:47] <daftykins> mattwj2002: hi what's up?
[22:47] <SonikkuAmerica> daftykins: :>
[22:47] <mattwj2002> my system was off when I got home
[22:48] <daftykins> sorry i tripped over the mains
[22:48] <mattwj2002> is there a way to tell why it was off?
[22:48] <mattwj2002> haha daftykins
[22:48] <mattwj2002> is there a way to tell if it was a graceful shutdown or not?
[22:48] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, i am usually always confused which iso to pick 32 or 64, is there a way to fnd out which one will work for me?
[22:49] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: pastebin [ uname -a ]
[22:50] <jrib> mattwj2002: is your alarm clock blinking?
[22:50] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6160703/
[22:50] <mattwj2002> yes jrib but it has been blinking for over a month
[22:50] <mattwj2002> :P
[22:50] <SonikkuAmerica> AdityaRaj: You'll need a 32-bit image (the 64-bit one won't work on your machine.)
[22:51] <SonikkuAmerica> jrib: Is your refrigerator running?
[22:51]  * mattwj2002 runs and catches it
[22:51] <jrib> SonikkuAmerica: why yes it is, why do you ask!?
[22:51] <mattwj2002> I don't think it was a power outage
[22:51]  * daftykins watches the channel donning their Sherlock Holmes deerstalker hats
[22:51] <mattwj2002> my tv didn't give me a time error
[22:51] <SonikkuAmerica> You're lucky mattwj2002 caught it for you jrib
[22:51] <mattwj2002> :P
[22:52] <jrib> my grilled cheese sandwich thanks you, mattwj2002
[22:52] <AdityaRaj> SonikkuAmerica,  thanks
[22:52] <jrib> mattwj2002: try checking /var/log/syslog and dmesg
[22:52] <Heeeeelp> It says /dev/sda1     ext4    /   format yes    5119mb     unknown
[22:53] <lonewulf85> !offtopic
[22:53] <Heeeeelp> It says /dev/sda1     ext4    /   format yes    5119mb     unknown
[22:53] <Heeeeelp> i hate this copy paste thing
[22:53] <Heeeeelp> im not on the coputer to take a screenshot
[22:54] <lonewulf85> If I wanted to display a list in human readable long format of all the files that started with the character H in the computers root directory what would be the command I need to issue to complete this action?
[22:54] <ikonia> lonewulf85: it's for ubuntu related support as you said
[22:54] <mattwj2002> thanks jrib
[22:54] <mattwj2002> jrib I have a grill cheese if you want one
[22:54] <mattwj2002> :)
[22:54] <ikonia> lonewulf85: that is shell scripting
[22:54] <ikonia> lonewulf85: or bash
[22:54] <lonewulf85> !bash
[22:55] <wylde> lonewulf85: I bet they'd have a good idea over in #bash
[23:00] <peyam> Hi
[23:01] <peyam> Chese freez when I want to capture a cideo from my webcam
[23:01] <Vivekananda> hello everyone back but with a problems
[23:04] <agliodbs> there appears to be no way to delete wireless networks from my list without connecting to that network first
[23:05] <Vivekananda> I initially installed lubuntu and then the ubuntu-desktop. I have a primary ntfs , an extended with ubuntu in it and a third ntfs partition. When trying to change a .sh script to executable or double clicking on it  it does not run. also chmod does not work. I have tried to do this -- http://askubuntu.com/questions/11840/how-to-chmod-on-an-ntfs-or-fat32-partition   ( I tried the 8 hits options) but as a result I got two mount p
[23:05] <Vivekananda> oints of the same name but still no chmod options
[23:05] <Vivekananda> what should I do now ?
[23:05] <agliodbs> as in there's no way to edit the list of networks
[23:05] <miaqinas> good morning
[23:07] <Vivekananda> hello
[23:08] <CoderGirl42> HI is there anyone that can help me determine a good backup solution?
[23:09] <CoderGirl42> I'd like to be able to make an image of my system with all of the installed programms and burn that to a disk, anyone have any suggestions?
[23:10] <daftykins> !backup | CoderGirl42
[23:14] <Vivekananda> hello anyone can gimme ny clue to my problem
[23:14] <Vivekananda> I initially installed lubuntu and then the ubuntu-desktop. I have a primary ntfs , an extended with ubuntu in it and a third ntfs partition. When trying to change a .sh script to executable or double clicking on it  it does not run. also chmod does not work. I have tried to do this -- http://askubuntu.com/questions/11840/how-to-chmod-on-an-ntfs-or-fat32-partition   ( I tried the 8 hits options) but as a result I got two mount p
[23:14] <Vivekananda> oints of the same name but still no chmod options
[23:15] <dr_willis> you trying to chmid a file on a ntfs partition?
[23:17] <nicu_> yo
[23:17] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: hello :)
[23:17] <Vivekananda> and yes I am trying to make a script executable which is at present on a ntfs partitions
[23:17] <Vivekananda> partition*
[23:18] <dr_willis> so you will basically  mount the ntfs  - with the options that make EVErY file on the ntfs executable.
[23:18] <dr_willis> thats the fmask=0000 option i   think.
[23:19] <dr_willis> i seem to recall the ntfs-3g homepage/faq/guides having some dettails on this. normally i dont ever want the files on my ntfs to be edecutable
[23:19] <dr_willis> of course even if they are not  executable you could still do a   'bash ./whatver.sh'
[23:19] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: if you look above I tried to do that according to the askubuntu link I posted. but after trying that and rebooting what I have is just one folder under /media called yojimbo and it has been mounted but
[23:20] <Vivekananda> I see another folder named 'Yojimbo' also. on a double click it says --- Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.he volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which
[23:20] <Vivekananda> could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.
[23:21] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  i would unmount it . then give us the mount command or fstab line you are using.
[23:21] <dr_willis> sounds like the fstab entry and the nautilus auto mounting stuff are fighting. id stick to the shell for now to verify it is mounting how you want
[23:22] <Vivekananda> okay let me do it. But just so you know there is just one of the 'yojimbos' mounted and the other is not
[23:22] <dr_willis> id use a differnt name for the mountpoint also.  like /mnt/MyDrive
[23:22] <dr_willis> the automounting system gets the mountpoint name from the disks label.
[23:23] <Vivekananda> https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/6722004
[23:23] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: in that case I will delete the label as one is enough isnt it ?
[23:24] <dr_willis> you could have just pasted the single line for the ntfs-3g device. ;)
[23:24] <dr_willis> ive never seen the 'permissions' option used in fstab like that.. may be a new ntfs-3g option ive never heard of.
[23:24] <dr_willis> OR it could be  incorrect option.
[23:25] <Vivekananda> here is what you see on my desktop now ( after unmounting) http://imagebin.org/272030
[23:25] <dr_willis> id change the  fstab to be like     mounting to /media/TestDrive    and  try the fmask=0000 option
[23:26] <Vivekananda> dr_willis: could you gimme the full command ?
[23:26] <Vivekananda> also should I delete the label for now ?
[23:26] <dr_willis> what 'label' are you refering to?
[23:26] <dr_willis> the Label is  the name on the filesystem. You dont just delete it.
[23:26] <miaqinas> hi dr willis..hw about u now?
[23:27] <dr_willis> paste that ntfs-3g fstab entry here for others to see.. they may notice any other issues with it. Im on my phone so its hard ro me to jump back and forth btween browsers and the irc
[23:28] <Vivekananda> I mean that while using the gparted I had put a 'label' on the ntfs drive and it was 'Yojimbo'. After that I included that fstab line I showed you with the exact same string as mountpoint ie 'Yojimbo'. But now I get two 'Yojimbo' as you see in the screenshot
[23:28] <Vivekananda> okay hold on
[23:28] <Vivekananda> UUID=41B9013F54905221 /media/Yojimbo ntfs-3g auto,users,permissions 0 0
[23:29] <Vivekananda> but why am I having this issue now
[23:29] <Vivekananda> did not have it before
[23:29] <Vivekananda> should I format the partiiton to ext3 or 4 ?
[23:29] <Vivekananda> this is killing valuable time for me
[23:30] <dr_willis> ive never seen the 'permissions' option EVER mentioned in the ntfs-3g docs.
[23:30] <dr_willis> where did you read about that option?
[23:30] <dr_willis> typical ntfs-3g entry for me would be ...
[23:31] <dr_willis> sudo mount -t ntfs -o fmask=0022,dmask=0000,uid=1000,gid=1000 DRIVE /media/vista
[23:31] <dr_willis> in fstab terms
[23:31] <dr_willis>   /dev/sda1  /media/thedrive  ntfs-3g   uid=1000,fmask=0022,dmask=0000  0 0
[23:31] <dr_willis> i tink.
[23:32] <Vivekananda> dr_willis I followed this ---http://askubuntu.com/questions/11840/how-to-chmod-on-an-ntfs-or-fat32-partition
[23:32] <Vivekananda> I went to the choice with 8 hits
[23:32] <Vivekananda> okay
[23:32] <Vivekananda> let me try that
[23:33] <dr_willis> i think the CORE of the issue is  that example is using  the word 'permissions' to mean 'You set the permission options how you want'   not the literal word 'permissions
[23:33] <dr_willis> because EVERY other example shows using the umask,fmask, and dmask options
[23:34] <dr_willis> unless anyone else has ever seen ntfs-3g use a 'permissions' option?
[23:34] <dr_willis> i gott a meeting to go to.. bck in about 20 min
[23:35] <Vivekananda> okay but
[23:35] <Vivekananda> what do I do about the second Yojimbo?
[23:35] <Vivekananda> how do I remove that ?
[23:38] <ukd1> How good is ubuntu on a macbook pro retina? Do external thunderbolt displays work?
[23:38] <ikonia> ukd1: thunderbolt = nope, retina = not great
[23:38] <ukd1> *by good I mean, supported; wifi, drivers, sleep etc.
[23:38] <ukd1> ok
[23:39] <ukd1> ikonia, any idea what works and doesn't?
[23:39] <daftykins> last i read, any thunderbolt usage causes mass CPU load that renders the OS unusable
[23:39] <ikonia> ukd1: there is a page on the wiki, but in general thunderbolt displays, no, I'm currently trying to get something out of a thinkpad with thunderbolt display,
[23:40] <ikonia> daftykins: I'm not seeing that at all, I'm seeing a real lack of actual supported device identification
[23:40] <ukd1> ikonia, ok! It's a shame as I'd rather be running ubuntu, but I have 2x thunderbolt so would be a waste.
[23:40] <ukd1> you having any luck with the thinkpad?
[23:40] <MoleMan> Could someone help me work out why my system doesn't resume from hibernate? I have set the resume= tag in Grub,might it be related to the swap being encrypted? the ouput from blikd for the swap is "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1: (blahblah)", using 13.04, with partitions automatically setup by Ubuntu during install
[23:40] <loa> how i can downgrade chrome?
[23:40] <ikonia> ukd1: funny, thats why I've been playing with it too.
[23:40] <MoleMan> ikonia: will recreating just the partition work? or would it be easier to just reinstall completely considering I only installed the other day and don't have much set up
[23:40] <ikonia> ukd1: no, thunderbolt in general, not mac/other platform seems to be th eproblem
[23:41] <ukd1> what's needed for it to work?
[23:41] <ukd1> ok
[23:41] <ikonia> MoleMan: I'd do a clean unencypted setup, then move forward
[23:41] <ikonia> ukd1: at the moment, I don't think it's possible/supported from my research,
[23:41] <ikonia> ukd1: I've only been playing with it for a few days though, so I've not done/tried everything yet
[23:42] <MoleMan> so if I choose to encrypt my home dir, does that trigger the swap to be encrypted as well? I chose to encrypt my home dir but never saw an option for the SWAP
[23:42] <ikonia> ukd1: research suggests it's a total none working situation
[23:42] <ikonia> MoleMan: I would do totally unencypted to validate
[23:42] <ikonia> MoleMan: then move forward from there
[23:42] <MoleMan> okay
[23:43] <daftykins> ikonia: oh well if you're not seeing it... ;)
[23:44] <ikonia> daftykins: I'm not seeing much else though to be honest
[23:46] <daftykins> ikonia: i think this was with a thunderbolt display come to think of it, may've been old too
[23:46] <Heeeeelp> the installer needs to commit changes to partition tables,
[23:47] <ttyS1> how can I speed up copying a file from one internal SATA disc to another internal SATA disc. Is currently copying at 23MB/s using Nautilus. This seems painfully slow.
[23:47] <pozori> are ther any better diagram editors than Dia ?
[23:49] <Heeeeelp> the installer needs to commit changes to partition tables, but cannot do so because partitions on the following could not be unmounted      /cdrom
[23:49] <Heeeeelp> what does this mean
[23:50] <ikonia> Heeeeelp: it means it's trying to unmount /cdrom - which can't happen as your live OS is running from the cdrom
[23:51] <Heeeeelp> i still run into issues without the live
[23:54] <_____> all terminal gives me is '?'
[23:54] <ikonia> _____: please ask a proper question if you want help
[23:54] <bwayne> pozori: I like LucidChat (web) and yEd.
[23:54] <_____> when I type something in terminal all I get back from it is '?'
[23:55] <_____> what do I do so it actually gives me something useful
[23:55] <ikonia> _____: that suggests your not in a shell
[23:55] <bwayne> sounds like ed
[23:55] <_____> how do I go into a shell
[23:55] <ikonia> _____: how are you opening a terminal ?
[23:55] <_____> im clicking it from the start menu
[23:55] <ikonia> what does the prompt look like
[23:56] <Vivekananda> my gnome ubuntu 12.04 on high resolution is very small
[23:56] <_____> owner@owner
[23:56] <Vivekananda> I want to make things bigger
[23:56] <_____> thats all
[23:56] <Vivekananda> how do I do that ?
[23:56] <ikonia> what happens if you type "id" and hit enter
[23:57] <_____> then I get GUI UID etc
[23:57] <bwayne> Vivekananda: decreasing the resolution might work.
[23:57] <ikonia> _____: ok, so then you're in a valid shell
[23:57] <ikonia> _____: what are you typing that gives you "?"
[23:57] <Heeeeelp> inonia-- same issue when im regular installing as the live installing
[23:57] <Vivekananda> bwayne: but isnt that kind of the wrong way to goo
[23:57] <Vivekananda> higher resolution is good
[23:57] <linuxuz3r> hi so they going to replace xorg with wayland
[23:57] <_____> clearm cls, clr, sudo apt-get purge
[23:58] <Vivekananda> can I not increase just the font of everything somehow
[23:58] <ikonia> _____: they are not valid commands
[23:58] <_____> im trying to remove samba3
[23:58] <_____> and its doing my HEAD in
[23:58] <ikonia> _____: what happens if you type "uname -a"
[23:58] <_____> linux owner 3.8.0 generic blah blah
[23:58] <ikonia> _____: ok, so the enviornment is also valid
[23:59] <_____> ok
[23:59] <bwayne> Vivekananda: perhaps "Universal access" > Change font size.
[23:59] <Heeeeelp> iknoia how would i solve the issue above
[23:59] <ikonia> _____: can you pastebin the output of "uname -a" and "id" so I can see the state of your system/shell
[23:59] <_____> not easily no
[23:59] <ikonia> why not?
[23:59] <_____> sorry