| popey | GTA5 was £41.79 on Amazon yesterday, now it's £41.59. | 07:05 |
|---|---|---|
| * popey refreshes hoping it drops by 20p each time | 07:05 | |
| MooDoo | morning all | 07:19 |
| mungbean | wow, whats the RRP? 49.99? | 07:37 |
| mungbean | what's the stats for most of the sales of a game, is it the builk are sold in the first 3months or something? | 07:38 |
| mungbean | google seem to have changed their ranking in preference for news, since a generic search on games data is mostly blogs and news articles about gta5 on the first 3 pages | 07:41 |
| popey | I suspect there would be a surge once GTA online is available | 07:41 |
| popey | will put GTA5 on my Christmas list I think (aka Amazon wishlist) | 07:41 |
| directhex | mungbean, console games it's a peak then a decline from there. there's not much "long tail" selling for console games | 07:44 |
| directhex | mungbean, it's actually the first 3 weeks that determine whether a game is a success or a flop, since so few sales happen after then as to be statistically unimportant | 07:47 |
| mungbean | so high st shops tend to focus on top 20 to maximise sales, hence creating no variety | 07:47 |
| mungbean | then its self fulfilling | 07:47 |
| popey | the companies aren't making non-AAA titles though are they? | 07:51 |
| popey | it's basically now just AAA, Mobile and Indie as 3 main categories? | 07:51 |
| === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk | ||
| directhex | well | 07:53 |
| directhex | remember, AAA is about marketing budget, not game budget | 07:53 |
| directhex | industry magazines have game adverts, but they're not "this game is good", they're "this game has a £20m multi-media marketing campaign, you are guaranteed easy sales". high street stores have limited shelf space, so buy games they think will sell | 07:54 |
| popey | https://twitter.com/mikeBithell/status/383499821304532992 | 07:55 |
| popey | so the steamos factor is working on devs | 07:55 |
| popey | https://twitter.com/icculus/status/383438796882067456 also | 07:55 |
| directhex | digital distribution has carved out room for B-tier publishers who had struggled to find shelf space | 07:55 |
| popey | true | 07:56 |
| directhex | i wouldn't call Paradox "indie", but i wouldn't call them "AAA" | 07:56 |
| popey | many of the mid-tier have left to mobile though? | 07:56 |
| popey | as opposed to pc/x/ps3 | 07:56 |
| directhex | paradox. sega. kalypso. focus | 07:57 |
| popey | http://minecraft.egmont.co.uk/ - xmas present for sam right there | 07:57 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Geek/space fest :-D http://dirkloechel.deviantart.com/art/Size-Comparison-Science-Fiction-spaceships-398790051 | 07:58 |
| popey | TheOpenSourcerer: ^^ your kids might like that too | 07:59 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Indeed. | 08:00 |
| mungbean | does anyone know how to block activesync from having permissions to remote wipe a device? | 08:13 |
| mungbean | does xprivacy do it? | 08:13 |
| popey | i found something years ago that did it | 08:14 |
| popey | cant remember the name though | 08:14 |
| mungbean | at this rate i'm gonna set up a gmail account which access the exchange server via imap rather than allow these permission | 08:15 |
| mungbean | openpdroid? | 08:15 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! Happy Friday, and happy Ask A Stupid Question Day! :-D | 08:50 |
| SuperMatt | I don't have any stupid questions. Do I have to leave if I don't have a stupid question? | 08:52 |
| popey | That'll do. | 08:54 |
| Laney | pig | 08:55 |
| * JamesTait rofls | 08:55 | |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 08:59 |
| JamesTait | brobostigon, o/ | 09:00 |
| brobostigon | morning JamesTait | 09:01 |
| mungbean | reddit device: http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/1647/?pfm=Search&t=karma%20controller%20diy%20reddit%20interface%20device | 09:14 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| davmor2 | Morning all | 10:12 |
| SuperMatt | morning davmor2 | 10:15 |
| * SuperMatt has started the day by raising bug 12311901 | 10:15 | |
| lubotu3 | Error: Launchpad bug 12311901 could not be found | 10:15 |
| SuperMatt | bug 1231901 | 10:16 |
| lubotu3 | bug 1231901 in nagios3 (Ubuntu) "Installing Nagios3 and Apache2 in Saucy does not enable the cgi mod, which is required" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1231901 | 10:16 |
| davmor2 | SuperMatt: let the server team know about that on the #ubuntu-server channel sounds like something they should look into asap me hopes that is the right channel ;) | 10:25 |
| popey | \o/ http://popey.com/webcam/ cat cam! | 10:37 |
| davmor2 | popey: wow your cat has no face | 10:38 |
| popey | he is black and has eyes shut | 10:40 |
| SuperMatt | davmor2: will do :D | 10:41 |
| * MooDoo makes a mental note to make his ip cam internet viewable | 10:44 | |
| davmor2 | popey: it has no face.....well that or the definition on the webcam isn't the best in the world and it just looks that way maybe.....But I'm going for no face!!! | 10:44 |
| directhex | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gameware/james-pond-pond-is-back?ref=live | 10:54 |
| ali1234 | i never liked that game :/ | 11:02 |
| mungbean | savage pond ftw | 11:03 |
| mungbean | hangon , not even any mock up screenshots? | 11:13 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| mungbean | WFH sucks when you cannot get an answer from someone on something urgent | 11:31 |
| ali1234 | world federation of haemophilia? | 11:33 |
| diddledan | wonderful frontier homocides? | 11:33 |
| mungbean | working from home | 11:34 |
| diddledan | aah, I'm usually the one that people can't get the answer from when I work from home :-p | 11:34 |
| diddledan | I spend much more time on irc when I work from home because I don't worry about appearances - I procrastinate just as much at the office but it looks like I'm still working | 11:36 |
| mungbean | i apear to have just wee'd on myself | 11:38 |
| mungbean | thats wfh for you | 11:38 |
| diddledan | I do that, too. far too often | 11:38 |
| mungbean | i tend to work harder without breaks when wfh | 11:38 |
| mungbean | started work 1 hr early and got striaght into it | 11:39 |
| diddledan | I don't do breaks either way | 11:39 |
| mungbean | meanwhile my colleagues will probably think i'm dossing | 11:39 |
| mungbean | that cory doctorow churns out books pretty fast | 11:44 |
| mungbean | i think calling it young adult fiction means you can write it in one sitting | 11:45 |
| Myrtti | mungbean: WFH sucks when you have to pick from the bazillion communication methods what to use to ask someone something urgent | 11:50 |
| diddledan | mungbean: young adult sounds like it's right up my street - I can't do hardcore reading :-p | 11:59 |
| diddledan | thankyou camelot - tonights eurosquillions is 55 bajillion£ | 12:00 |
| diddledan | grab my ticket now? don't have time for that! | 12:00 |
| popey | mungbean: he uses ubuntu doncha know | 12:01 |
| mungbean | popey: yep i think i read some stuff he wrote in the guardian or BB about it | 12:05 |
| mungbean | a lot of his books are so samey i feel like i'm reading the same one again | 12:06 |
| diddledan | mungbean: that's tweenfic for ya I guess | 12:06 |
| diddledan | it's all twiglet | 12:06 |
| mungbean | how do i change a user's primary group in openldap? | 12:09 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| diddledan | heh @ my email to my colleagues: "yes, you too can taste the really hott! screaming salami release of Ubuntu before it goes live. Final Customer Experience Preview Developer Release Candidate 1.2 has been released by Canoncrosoft." *attach email: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) Final Beta Released; from adconrad@ubuntu.com; to ubuntu-announce list* | 12:11 |
| Laney | O_O | 12:12 |
| diddledan | :-p | 12:12 |
| Laney | screaming salami is nice | 12:12 |
| Laney | slobbering would have been better | 12:12 |
| diddledan | it makes your eyes do that | 12:12 |
| diddledan | aaha, yeah slobbering woulda been good | 12:12 |
| diddledan | I'm guessing T will be twerking tween? | 12:13 |
| diddledan | should I know what twerking actually is before I use it in a sentence?! | 12:13 |
| diddledan | thankyou wikipedia | 12:15 |
| diddledan | and bonus points for including the picture of miley cyrus doing a twerk on robin thicke | 12:16 |
| * popey looks for unicode twerk and fails | 12:16 | |
| diddledan | speaking of Miley Cyrus - she used to be such a nice girl.. I don't get why she's gone so completely mental | 12:20 |
| diddledan | (and as a person afflicted with psychiatric illness, I use the word "mental" advisedly :-p) | 12:21 |
| * Laney pulls diddledan from asda's shelves | 12:23 | |
| DJones | diddledan: She's been listening to her dad's Achy, Breaky Heart song too much, that'd probably do it | 12:27 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| directhex | huh. is it a scoop to get confirmation from audiokinetic that Wwise is being ported to linux (steamos)? | 12:51 |
| directhex | popey? or anyone who is part of one of the endless parade of ubuntu/gaming blogs? | 12:51 |
| popey | I'd not heard of it before you mentioned it | 12:52 |
| popey | saw your RT though, nice! | 12:53 |
| popey | do you know how many games use it? | 12:53 |
| directhex | popey, a few hundred | 12:55 |
| directhex | popey, mostly big-name games like bioshock or assassin's creed | 12:56 |
| directhex | popey, perhaps of most relevance... limbo. wwise is the "sorry, wine only because middleware is nonportable" middleware | 12:56 |
| Myrtti | ooh assassin's creed | 12:58 |
| popey | golly | 13:01 |
| mungbean | ok...screaming baby not good for stress levels when trying to hack ldap | 13:11 |
| * AlanBell stays away from LDAP | 13:14 | |
| AlanBell | and babies ;) | 13:14 |
| diddledan | ouch, ldap is evil | 13:15 |
| diddledan | screaming babies notwithstanding | 13:15 |
| MooDoo | you get used to screaming babeis | 13:15 |
| mungbean | finally took the dressing off my tattoo | 13:16 |
| mungbean | healed up pretty nice | 13:16 |
| mungbean | http://i.imgur.com/MXoCnOf.jpg | 13:17 |
| diddledan | I'm assuming it's supposed to be spelled incorrectly | 13:18 |
| mungbean | i think the geek version should say no regexp | 13:18 |
| mungbean | its spelt incorrectly? where? OH NO!! | 13:18 |
| AlanBell | ;) | 13:18 |
| mungbean | i would never get a tattoo :D | 13:18 |
| popey | https://s3.amazonaws.com/pfuploads/tumblr_mlm7q5xxfU1qdnibfo1_500.jpg | 13:18 |
| mungbean | the best ones are when they get a football manager's face | 13:19 |
| popey | https://twitter.com/shittats is quite fun | 13:19 |
| mungbean | tattoos are no joke. it stresses me out even to see such hideous blemishes on other people | 13:20 |
| popey | pfft | 13:21 |
| mungbean | isn't that the forkbomb? http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2422/4033340711_543ef81df0_b.jpg | 13:22 |
| diddledan | mungbean: yes | 13:22 |
| diddledan | you don't need the ampersand for it to be effective though | 13:23 |
| diddledan | :(){:|:};: works just as nicely | 13:23 |
| diddledan | !danger | 13:24 |
| lubotu3 | DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you! | 13:24 |
| diddledan | is it fair to get the bot to moan about yourself? | 13:24 |
| Myrtti | yes. | 13:25 |
| Seeker` | /abk diddledan | 13:25 |
| Seeker` | :P | 13:25 |
| diddledan | Seeker`: /abk? | 13:25 |
| diddledan | something bankick? | 13:26 |
| diddledan | thankfully that forkbomb is obscure enough that n00bs don't realise it is bash syntax | 13:27 |
| diddledan | (that's a good thing becuase they then don't try running it out of curiosity) | 13:28 |
| Seeker` | diddledan: autobankick | 13:28 |
| Monotoko | is there anywhere on freenode that I can get help with SIP? >.> | 13:33 |
| AlanBell | Monotoko: depends on the software, I am doing stuff with #opensips at the moment | 13:34 |
| AlanBell | Monotoko: what is the question? | 13:34 |
| directhex | Monotoko, "firewalling issue". next! | 13:35 |
| diddledan | I agree with directhex | 13:38 |
| diddledan | with SIP absolutely every question no matter how esoteric and seemingly separate boils down to the firewall | 13:39 |
| directhex | or some facet of it | 13:39 |
| directhex | e.g. "MTU is wrong size!" "NAT is the wrong colour", etc | 13:39 |
| diddledan | I never did get the colourising of NAT | 13:40 |
| directhex | "slight kernel jitter" | 13:40 |
| directhex | "too much IO load" | 13:40 |
| directhex | sip is basically awful | 13:40 |
| diddledan | unfortunately it's about the only "open" telephony protocol that also has hooks into POTS | 13:41 |
| Monotoko | AlanBell: I'm trying to get a server to use pjsua to call my SIP number which should in turn go to my mobile | 13:51 |
| Monotoko | it has no firewall | 13:51 |
| Monotoko | but it just seems to... hang | 13:51 |
| Monotoko | and so much stuff comes through that I have no idea what's making it hang | 13:52 |
| Monotoko | http://pastebin.com/sz7ce15v | 13:53 |
| Monotoko | 1892551@sipgate.co.uk has a forwarding to my mobile which it should be following, but nothing is appearing on that ones call log anyway... | 13:55 |
| SuperMatt | davmor2: thanks for pointing me at ubuntu-server for that bug, it's been marked as high and being triaged now | 13:58 |
| davmor2 | SuperMatt: you are welcome, I figured they would be the ones that would need to deal with it :) | 13:58 |
| davmor2 | SuperMatt: if you know who to ping when you have written a bug that is important in general, rather than specific to you, it's worth pinging the team because it means they see it, on the whole if 100 bugs hit you a day it just becomes a blur | 14:00 |
| SuperMatt | yarr | 14:04 |
| SuperMatt | I would really love to start looking in to fixing bugs | 14:05 |
| SuperMatt | I just don't think I have the time | 14:06 |
| === iahmad is now known as iahmad|afk | ||
| diddledan | religious quote of the day: "God said unto Moses: 'come forth'; but he came fifth and won a toaster" | 14:39 |
| * Monotoko murders nagios in cold blood | 14:41 | |
| bigcalm | Hello peeps from Shropgeek Revolution :) | 14:41 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 14:42 |
| diddledan | and \o/ | 14:42 |
| diddledan | nagios *stab stab* | 14:43 |
| diddledan | and shropgeek ftw | 14:43 |
| mungbean | all active fail2ban rules should show in iptables -vnL right? | 14:43 |
| diddledan | mungbean: yes I believe so | 14:44 |
| mungbean | users are reportign that if they get password wrong once they are blocked out | 14:44 |
| mungbean | wonder if its a client problem..using mobaxterm | 14:44 |
| * bigcalm senses popey is not a happy bunny | 14:45 | |
| diddledan | sounds like their client is prompting for a password and then blindly resending it without prompting at every request even though it's been denied | 14:45 |
| mungbean | gonna have to reboot to windows to try @( | 14:45 |
| popey | bah | 14:45 |
| diddledan | reboot? to windows?! EVIL!!!!!!!1! | 14:46 |
| diddledan | !danger > mungbean | 14:46 |
| lubotu3 | mungbean, please see my private message | 14:46 |
| diddledan | bah | 14:46 |
| diddledan | !danger | mungbean | 14:46 |
| lubotu3 | mungbean: DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you! | 14:46 |
| diddledan | annoying that there's no standard among bot makers | 14:47 |
| diddledan | the #wordpress bot responds on .commands instead of !commands and uses > as the redirector instead of | | 14:47 |
| diddledan | I think there should be one bot to rule them all | 14:48 |
| diddledan | same bot in here as is in every other channel everywhere | 14:48 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea | ||
| diddledan | mmm, yea | 14:48 |
| diddledan | tea** | 14:48 |
| diddledan | alan_g|tea: email me some :-p | 14:48 |
| mungbean | i run supybot, i think lubotu3 is descended from him | 14:48 |
| diddledan | aah python | 14:49 |
| diddledan | why is python so popular?! | 14:49 |
| diddledan | it seems to have become the new Perl | 14:49 |
| diddledan | although nodejs is trying to become the new python aka the new new perl | 14:50 |
| === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g | ||
| mungbean | yes it was fail2bna | 15:11 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| diddledan | why does the euromeelions have to have a rollmeover on payday?! | 16:58 |
| popey | oooh | 16:59 |
| popey | http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/ | 16:59 |
| popey | http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamController/ | 17:00 |
| popey | woah | 17:00 |
| davmor2 | popey: okay take a chill pill it's only an advert ;) | 17:01 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| arc__ | hello | 17:04 |
| popey | hello | 17:04 |
| arc__ | will they keep making ubuntu for the ppc | 17:09 |
| DJones | !ppc | arc__ | 17:10 |
| lubotu3 | arc__: PowerPC. Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ | 17:10 |
| arc__ | cool ok | 17:11 |
| diddledan | I don't get why manufacturers moved away from ppc - I guess it's part of ongoing unification of hardware architecture onto x86 which I'm assuming will eventually make way to unification onto ARM | 17:20 |
| arc__ | The only ppc i have is a Mac G5 | 17:22 |
| === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away | ||
| directhex | diddledan, ppc was dropped by apple because it couldn't compete on price/heat/power/performance with intel - specifically, no way to put a G5 in a laptop without it having thermal issues | 17:42 |
| diddledan | I see | 17:42 |
| directhex | and in the general case, ppc is expensive. ibm still put them in top end servers tho | 17:42 |
| directhex | nintendo still use ppc for wiiu | 17:43 |
| directhex | <directhex> ok, WAT @ steam pad | 17:43 |
| ali1234 | ....... that gamepad looks lame | 17:47 |
| ali1234 | then again i said the same thing about the n64 pad | 17:50 |
| Azelphur | Has anyone noticed that SFTP uploading is /ridiculously slow/ when using thunar or something? | 18:17 |
| Azelphur | he says, just as his upload speed jumps from 900bytes/sec to 180KB/sec. | 18:18 |
| davmor2 | Azelphur: It's quite quick for me in nautilus | 18:19 |
| Azelphur | weird, I stopped using nautilus since they changed the typing search method in 13.10 | 18:20 |
| Azelphur | the new thing sucks. | 18:20 |
| diddledan | why do I drool over apple products?! | 18:30 |
| bigcalm | diddledan: do you have a wooly coat and bleat a lot? | 18:30 |
| diddledan | bigcalm: as in am I a wolf? | 18:31 |
| bigcalm | More of a sheep :P | 18:31 |
| diddledan | lol | 18:31 |
| bigcalm | Apple do good design, which could be why you want it | 18:31 |
| diddledan | I'm reminded of lee mack's humorous bit about advertising for a pie | 18:32 |
| diddledan | "it's hot and crusty, and I want it" | 18:32 |
| bigcalm | Hehe | 18:32 |
| diddledan | in the style of a fragrance advert :-p | 18:33 |
| diddledan | speaking of which, how terrible are fragrance adverts?! | 18:33 |
| bigcalm | They are silly and meaningless | 18:33 |
| diddledan | "but I want it" | 18:34 |
| diddledan | the rumourmill is going overdrive on nexus5-related stories | 18:35 |
| bigcalm | I want a Nexus 6 ;) | 18:38 |
| diddledan | is that the galaxy note lookalite? | 18:38 |
| diddledan | lookalike | 18:38 |
| diddledan | i.e. a phone that's the size of your foot | 18:38 |
| bigcalm | No, it's a Bladerunner reference | 18:38 |
| diddledan | aaah | 18:39 |
| diddledan | I missed it | 18:39 |
| diddledan | apparently, iirc, the copyright owner of the blade runner franchise (I don't remember who anymore) tried to sue google over use of the word nexus in relation to android | 18:40 |
| bigcalm | Yes | 18:40 |
| diddledan | aah, phew, I was worried I was making it up as I went along :-p | 18:41 |
| bigcalm | That's a rather specific thing to make up | 18:41 |
| diddledan | it's been known | 18:41 |
| davmor2 | diddledan: surely a shoe is better for your foot than a phone | 18:42 |
| diddledan | davmor2: tell that to samsung | 18:42 |
| diddledan | they might have used gorillaglass which will help with cracking | 18:42 |
| diddledan | agents of s.h.i.e.l.d. on ch4 right now | 19:05 |
| ali1234 | Azelphur: thunar uses gvfs now, so it should be exactly the same speed | 19:07 |
| Azelphur | fun | 19:07 |
| ali1234 | that might be new in saucy, i don't know | 19:07 |
| ali1234 | thunar-vfs was killed with pitchforks | 19:07 |
| ali1234 | "Fri, Sep 27, 09:00 PM to 10:00 PM (70 mins)" - oh, mythtv | 19:10 |
| Azelphur | maybe mythtv was written on an alien planet where they have 70 minute hours. | 19:11 |
| Azelphur | :P | 19:11 |
| ali1234 | btw, xfce is getting gtk3 indicator support | 19:12 |
| ali1234 | i'm using it right now :) | 19:12 |
| ali1234 | finally working volume controls | 19:12 |
| Azelphur | nice | 19:13 |
| diddledan | wtf | 19:13 |
| diddledan | how does mythtv bend the space time continuum?! | 19:13 |
| ali1234 | i dunno but it better not cut the end off | 19:14 |
| diddledan | lol | 19:14 |
| diddledan | it inevitably will | 19:14 |
| ali1234 | ooo cheap servos on rapid... | 19:15 |
| bigcalm | Might be a little late for this, but which is a good hotel to book for oggcamp? :) | 19:27 |
| bigcalm | Still haven't decided if I can really go or not | 19:28 |
| dutchie | does anybody want steam keys for awesomenauts? | 19:28 |
| dutchie | soundtrack too | 19:28 |
| bigcalm | I haven't got around to playing the copy I already have on steam ;) | 19:29 |
| daubers | dutchie: How do you have so many? | 19:32 |
| dutchie | daubers: i only have one! nobody wants it :( | 19:33 |
| dutchie | and that came from the kickstarter | 19:33 |
| daubers | heh :) | 19:33 |
| sketch_ | can anyone help me get this .sh file to run? | 19:58 |
| ali1234 | maybe. | 19:59 |
| sketch_ | ok cool i've tried to make it executable in properties and the check wont stay | 20:01 |
| mungbean | special episode of IT crowd on now | 20:03 |
| sketch_ | ok i need someone with teamviewer to take a look please | 20:18 |
| popey | sketch_: i have teamviewer | 20:20 |
| popey | happy to take a look | 20:21 |
| sketch_ | ok cool | 20:25 |
| diddledan | lmao @ the IT crowd | 20:42 |
| popey | no spoilers! :D | 20:44 |
| diddledan | I just saw an advert for wuaki.tv | 20:48 |
| diddledan | I only discovered they existed this week | 20:48 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| geoffrey | coldsoda | 22:41 |
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