[07:05] GTA5 was £41.79 on Amazon yesterday, now it's £41.59. [07:05] * popey refreshes hoping it drops by 20p each time [07:19] morning all [07:37] wow, whats the RRP? 49.99? [07:38] what's the stats for most of the sales of a game, is it the builk are sold in the first 3months or something? [07:41] google seem to have changed their ranking in preference for news, since a generic search on games data is mostly blogs and news articles about gta5 on the first 3 pages [07:41] I suspect there would be a surge once GTA online is available [07:41] will put GTA5 on my Christmas list I think (aka Amazon wishlist) [07:44] mungbean, console games it's a peak then a decline from there. there's not much "long tail" selling for console games [07:47] mungbean, it's actually the first 3 weeks that determine whether a game is a success or a flop, since so few sales happen after then as to be statistically unimportant [07:47] so high st shops tend to focus on top 20 to maximise sales, hence creating no variety [07:47] then its self fulfilling [07:51] the companies aren't making non-AAA titles though are they? [07:51] it's basically now just AAA, Mobile and Indie as 3 main categories? === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [07:53] well [07:53] remember, AAA is about marketing budget, not game budget [07:54] industry magazines have game adverts, but they're not "this game is good", they're "this game has a £20m multi-media marketing campaign, you are guaranteed easy sales". high street stores have limited shelf space, so buy games they think will sell [07:55] https://twitter.com/mikeBithell/status/383499821304532992 [07:55] so the steamos factor is working on devs [07:55] https://twitter.com/icculus/status/383438796882067456 also [07:55] digital distribution has carved out room for B-tier publishers who had struggled to find shelf space [07:56] true [07:56] i wouldn't call Paradox "indie", but i wouldn't call them "AAA" [07:56] many of the mid-tier have left to mobile though? [07:56] as opposed to pc/x/ps3 [07:57] paradox. sega. kalypso. focus [07:57] http://minecraft.egmont.co.uk/ - xmas present for sam right there [07:58] Geek/space fest :-D http://dirkloechel.deviantart.com/art/Size-Comparison-Science-Fiction-spaceships-398790051 [07:59] TheOpenSourcerer: ^^ your kids might like that too [08:00] Indeed. [08:13] does anyone know how to block activesync from having permissions to remote wipe a device? [08:13] does xprivacy do it? [08:14] i found something years ago that did it [08:14] cant remember the name though [08:15] at this rate i'm gonna set up a gmail account which access the exchange server via imap rather than allow these permission [08:15] openpdroid? [08:50] Good morning all! Happy Friday, and happy Ask A Stupid Question Day! :-D [08:52] I don't have any stupid questions. Do I have to leave if I don't have a stupid question? [08:54] That'll do. [08:55] pig [08:55] * JamesTait rofls [08:59] good morning everyone. [09:00] brobostigon, o/ [09:01] morning JamesTait [09:14] reddit device: http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/1647/?pfm=Search&t=karma%20controller%20diy%20reddit%20interface%20device === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [10:12] Morning all [10:15] morning davmor2 [10:15] * SuperMatt has started the day by raising bug 12311901 [10:15] Error: Launchpad bug 12311901 could not be found [10:16] bug 1231901 [10:16] bug 1231901 in nagios3 (Ubuntu) "Installing Nagios3 and Apache2 in Saucy does not enable the cgi mod, which is required" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1231901 [10:25] SuperMatt: let the server team know about that on the #ubuntu-server channel sounds like something they should look into asap me hopes that is the right channel ;) [10:37] \o/ http://popey.com/webcam/ cat cam! [10:38] popey: wow your cat has no face [10:40] he is black and has eyes shut [10:41] davmor2: will do :D [10:44] * MooDoo makes a mental note to make his ip cam internet viewable [10:44] popey: it has no face.....well that or the definition on the webcam isn't the best in the world and it just looks that way maybe.....But I'm going for no face!!! [10:54] http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gameware/james-pond-pond-is-back?ref=live [11:02] i never liked that game :/ [11:03] savage pond ftw [11:13] hangon , not even any mock up screenshots? === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [11:31] WFH sucks when you cannot get an answer from someone on something urgent [11:33] world federation of haemophilia? [11:33] wonderful frontier homocides? [11:34] working from home [11:34] aah, I'm usually the one that people can't get the answer from when I work from home :-p [11:36] I spend much more time on irc when I work from home because I don't worry about appearances - I procrastinate just as much at the office but it looks like I'm still working [11:38] i apear to have just wee'd on myself [11:38] thats wfh for you [11:38] I do that, too. far too often [11:38] i tend to work harder without breaks when wfh [11:39] started work 1 hr early and got striaght into it [11:39] I don't do breaks either way [11:39] meanwhile my colleagues will probably think i'm dossing [11:44] that cory doctorow churns out books pretty fast [11:45] i think calling it young adult fiction means you can write it in one sitting [11:50] mungbean: WFH sucks when you have to pick from the bazillion communication methods what to use to ask someone something urgent [11:59] mungbean: young adult sounds like it's right up my street - I can't do hardcore reading :-p [12:00] thankyou camelot - tonights eurosquillions is 55 bajillion£ [12:00] grab my ticket now? don't have time for that! [12:01] mungbean: he uses ubuntu doncha know [12:05] popey: yep i think i read some stuff he wrote in the guardian or BB about it [12:06] a lot of his books are so samey i feel like i'm reading the same one again [12:06] mungbean: that's tweenfic for ya I guess [12:06] it's all twiglet [12:09] how do i change a user's primary group in openldap? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:11] heh @ my email to my colleagues: "yes, you too can taste the really hott! screaming salami release of Ubuntu before it goes live. Final Customer Experience Preview Developer Release Candidate 1.2 has been released by Canoncrosoft." *attach email: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) Final Beta Released; from adconrad@ubuntu.com; to ubuntu-announce list* [12:12] O_O [12:12] :-p [12:12] screaming salami is nice [12:12] slobbering would have been better [12:12] it makes your eyes do that [12:12] aaha, yeah slobbering woulda been good [12:13] I'm guessing T will be twerking tween? [12:13] should I know what twerking actually is before I use it in a sentence?! [12:15] thankyou wikipedia [12:16] and bonus points for including the picture of miley cyrus doing a twerk on robin thicke [12:16] * popey looks for unicode twerk and fails [12:20] speaking of Miley Cyrus - she used to be such a nice girl.. I don't get why she's gone so completely mental [12:21] (and as a person afflicted with psychiatric illness, I use the word "mental" advisedly :-p) [12:23] * Laney pulls diddledan from asda's shelves [12:27] diddledan: She's been listening to her dad's Achy, Breaky Heart song too much, that'd probably do it === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [12:51] huh. is it a scoop to get confirmation from audiokinetic that Wwise is being ported to linux (steamos)? [12:51] popey? or anyone who is part of one of the endless parade of ubuntu/gaming blogs? [12:52] I'd not heard of it before you mentioned it [12:53] saw your RT though, nice! [12:53] do you know how many games use it? [12:55] popey, a few hundred [12:56] popey, mostly big-name games like bioshock or assassin's creed [12:56] popey, perhaps of most relevance... limbo. wwise is the "sorry, wine only because middleware is nonportable" middleware [12:58] ooh assassin's creed [13:01] golly [13:11] ok...screaming baby not good for stress levels when trying to hack ldap [13:14] * AlanBell stays away from LDAP [13:14] and babies ;) [13:15] ouch, ldap is evil [13:15] screaming babies notwithstanding [13:15] you get used to screaming babeis [13:16] finally took the dressing off my tattoo [13:16] healed up pretty nice [13:17] http://i.imgur.com/MXoCnOf.jpg [13:18] I'm assuming it's supposed to be spelled incorrectly [13:18] i think the geek version should say no regexp [13:18] its spelt incorrectly? where? OH NO!! [13:18] ;) [13:18] i would never get a tattoo :D [13:18] https://s3.amazonaws.com/pfuploads/tumblr_mlm7q5xxfU1qdnibfo1_500.jpg [13:19] the best ones are when they get a football manager's face [13:19] https://twitter.com/shittats is quite fun [13:20] tattoos are no joke. it stresses me out even to see such hideous blemishes on other people [13:21] pfft [13:22] isn't that the forkbomb? http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2422/4033340711_543ef81df0_b.jpg [13:22] mungbean: yes [13:23] you don't need the ampersand for it to be effective though [13:23] :(){:|:};: works just as nicely [13:24] !danger [13:24] DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you! [13:24] is it fair to get the bot to moan about yourself? [13:25] yes. [13:25] /abk diddledan [13:25] :P [13:25] Seeker`: /abk? [13:26] something bankick? [13:27] thankfully that forkbomb is obscure enough that n00bs don't realise it is bash syntax [13:28] (that's a good thing becuase they then don't try running it out of curiosity) [13:28] diddledan: autobankick [13:33] is there anywhere on freenode that I can get help with SIP? >.> [13:34] Monotoko: depends on the software, I am doing stuff with #opensips at the moment [13:34] Monotoko: what is the question? [13:35] Monotoko, "firewalling issue". next! [13:38] I agree with directhex [13:39] with SIP absolutely every question no matter how esoteric and seemingly separate boils down to the firewall [13:39] or some facet of it [13:39] e.g. "MTU is wrong size!" "NAT is the wrong colour", etc [13:40] I never did get the colourising of NAT [13:40] "slight kernel jitter" [13:40] "too much IO load" [13:40] sip is basically awful [13:41] unfortunately it's about the only "open" telephony protocol that also has hooks into POTS [13:51] AlanBell: I'm trying to get a server to use pjsua to call my SIP number which should in turn go to my mobile [13:51] it has no firewall [13:51] but it just seems to... hang [13:52] and so much stuff comes through that I have no idea what's making it hang [13:53] http://pastebin.com/sz7ce15v [13:55] 1892551@sipgate.co.uk has a forwarding to my mobile which it should be following, but nothing is appearing on that ones call log anyway... [13:58] davmor2: thanks for pointing me at ubuntu-server for that bug, it's been marked as high and being triaged now [13:58] SuperMatt: you are welcome, I figured they would be the ones that would need to deal with it :) [14:00] SuperMatt: if you know who to ping when you have written a bug that is important in general, rather than specific to you, it's worth pinging the team because it means they see it, on the whole if 100 bugs hit you a day it just becomes a blur [14:04] yarr [14:05] I would really love to start looking in to fixing bugs [14:06] I just don't think I have the time === iahmad is now known as iahmad|afk [14:39] religious quote of the day: "God said unto Moses: 'come forth'; but he came fifth and won a toaster" [14:41] * Monotoko murders nagios in cold blood [14:41] Hello peeps from Shropgeek Revolution :) [14:42] \o/ [14:42] and \o/ [14:43] nagios *stab stab* [14:43] and shropgeek ftw [14:43] all active fail2ban rules should show in iptables -vnL right? [14:44] mungbean: yes I believe so [14:44] users are reportign that if they get password wrong once they are blocked out [14:44] wonder if its a client problem..using mobaxterm [14:45] * bigcalm senses popey is not a happy bunny [14:45] sounds like their client is prompting for a password and then blindly resending it without prompting at every request even though it's been denied [14:45] gonna have to reboot to windows to try @( [14:45] bah [14:46] reboot? to windows?! EVIL!!!!!!!1! [14:46] !danger > mungbean [14:46] mungbean, please see my private message [14:46] bah [14:46] !danger | mungbean [14:46] mungbean: DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you! [14:47] annoying that there's no standard among bot makers [14:47] the #wordpress bot responds on .commands instead of !commands and uses > as the redirector instead of | [14:48] I think there should be one bot to rule them all [14:48] same bot in here as is in every other channel everywhere === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [14:48] mmm, yea [14:48] tea** [14:48] alan_g|tea: email me some :-p [14:48] i run supybot, i think lubotu3 is descended from him [14:49] aah python [14:49] why is python so popular?! [14:49] it seems to have become the new Perl [14:50] although nodejs is trying to become the new python aka the new new perl === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:11] yes it was fail2bna === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [16:58] why does the euromeelions have to have a rollmeover on payday?! [16:59] oooh [16:59] http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/ [17:00] http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamController/ [17:00] woah [17:01] popey: okay take a chill pill it's only an advert ;) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:04] hello [17:04] hello [17:09] will they keep making ubuntu for the ppc [17:10] !ppc | arc__ [17:10] arc__: PowerPC. Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ [17:11] cool ok [17:20] I don't get why manufacturers moved away from ppc - I guess it's part of ongoing unification of hardware architecture onto x86 which I'm assuming will eventually make way to unification onto ARM [17:22] The only ppc i have is a Mac G5 === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [17:42] diddledan, ppc was dropped by apple because it couldn't compete on price/heat/power/performance with intel - specifically, no way to put a G5 in a laptop without it having thermal issues [17:42] I see [17:42] and in the general case, ppc is expensive. ibm still put them in top end servers tho [17:43] nintendo still use ppc for wiiu [17:43] ok, WAT @ steam pad [17:47] ....... that gamepad looks lame [17:50] then again i said the same thing about the n64 pad [18:17] Has anyone noticed that SFTP uploading is /ridiculously slow/ when using thunar or something? [18:18] he says, just as his upload speed jumps from 900bytes/sec to 180KB/sec. [18:19] Azelphur: It's quite quick for me in nautilus [18:20] weird, I stopped using nautilus since they changed the typing search method in 13.10 [18:20] the new thing sucks. [18:30] why do I drool over apple products?! [18:30] diddledan: do you have a wooly coat and bleat a lot? [18:31] bigcalm: as in am I a wolf? [18:31] More of a sheep :P [18:31] lol [18:31] Apple do good design, which could be why you want it [18:32] I'm reminded of lee mack's humorous bit about advertising for a pie [18:32] "it's hot and crusty, and I want it" [18:32] Hehe [18:33] in the style of a fragrance advert :-p [18:33] speaking of which, how terrible are fragrance adverts?! [18:33] They are silly and meaningless [18:34] "but I want it" [18:35] the rumourmill is going overdrive on nexus5-related stories [18:38] I want a Nexus 6 ;) [18:38] is that the galaxy note lookalite? [18:38] lookalike [18:38] i.e. a phone that's the size of your foot [18:38] No, it's a Bladerunner reference [18:39] aaah [18:39] I missed it [18:40] apparently, iirc, the copyright owner of the blade runner franchise (I don't remember who anymore) tried to sue google over use of the word nexus in relation to android [18:40] Yes [18:41] aah, phew, I was worried I was making it up as I went along :-p [18:41] That's a rather specific thing to make up [18:41] it's been known [18:42] diddledan: surely a shoe is better for your foot than a phone [18:42] davmor2: tell that to samsung [18:42] they might have used gorillaglass which will help with cracking [19:05] agents of s.h.i.e.l.d. on ch4 right now [19:07] Azelphur: thunar uses gvfs now, so it should be exactly the same speed [19:07] fun [19:07] that might be new in saucy, i don't know [19:07] thunar-vfs was killed with pitchforks [19:10] "Fri, Sep 27, 09:00 PM to 10:00 PM (70 mins)" - oh, mythtv [19:11] maybe mythtv was written on an alien planet where they have 70 minute hours. [19:11] :P [19:12] btw, xfce is getting gtk3 indicator support [19:12] i'm using it right now :) [19:12] finally working volume controls [19:13] nice [19:13] wtf [19:13] how does mythtv bend the space time continuum?! [19:14] i dunno but it better not cut the end off [19:14] lol [19:14] it inevitably will [19:15] ooo cheap servos on rapid... [19:27] Might be a little late for this, but which is a good hotel to book for oggcamp? :) [19:28] Still haven't decided if I can really go or not [19:28] does anybody want steam keys for awesomenauts? [19:28] soundtrack too [19:29] I haven't got around to playing the copy I already have on steam ;) [19:32] dutchie: How do you have so many? [19:33] daubers: i only have one! nobody wants it :( [19:33] and that came from the kickstarter [19:33] heh :) [19:58] can anyone help me get this .sh file to run? [19:59] maybe. [20:01] ok cool i've tried to make it executable in properties and the check wont stay [20:03] special episode of IT crowd on now [20:18] ok i need someone with teamviewer to take a look please [20:20] sketch_: i have teamviewer [20:21] happy to take a look [20:25] ok cool [20:42] lmao @ the IT crowd [20:44] no spoilers! :D [20:48] I just saw an advert for wuaki.tv [20:48] I only discovered they existed this week === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [22:41] coldsoda