[04:01] Saviq: ok.. [07:50] sil2100, didrocks, are we ready to do the unity bump now? [07:51] mhr3: it seems like unity AP tests don't pass [07:51] mhr3: so I think that should be fixed first? [07:51] otherwise, we won't be able to release it :p [07:51] kmn [07:51] ;) [07:52] mhr3: oh sil2100! [07:52] bregma: ^ [07:52] sil2100: I wanted to ask you having a look at that ;) [07:52] at least to see the current state [07:52] Aye aye sir ;) [07:52] Too bad Brandon is around later [07:52] mhr3: btw, thorst still didn't file an entry for this [07:52] mhr3: would be nice if he can do that [07:52] didrocks, i made him add it to 93 [07:53] mhr3: oh, he added in the middle :/ [07:53] harder to track [07:53] ok, thanks mhr3 [07:53] didrocks, it's part of that feature [07:53] feel free to split if it makes it easier for you to track [07:56] mhr3: no no, that's fine, let's keep it once [08:00] * sil2100 wonders why he has 2 network indicators on his desktop [08:01] sil2100, for cases when one gets lost [08:01] you know... backup thing [08:01] Saviq: yesterday night unity8 crashed for me. so I looked up the crash dump and unpacked it, but it didn't contain a CoreDump. [08:02] Aaah, make sense ;) [08:02] sil2100: apport-bug said "your device doesn't have enough memory for this" [08:02] sorry... Saviq ^ [08:02] any ideas how to get some info out of it nevertheless? [08:07] sil2100, is it just me who can't find which unity tests are actually failing? [08:14] mzanetti, did you try unpacking on your laptop? [08:15] Saviq: no. but the .crash package is only 300kb while usually they are more like 10MB [08:15] mzanetti, yeah, looks like we won't get anything out of it [08:15] mzanetti, it probably failed to compress the core dump when crashed (out of mem?) [08:16] mhm... yeah. might be. [08:16] how... why does mtp come up when the phone is off and it's just charging? [08:16] didn't even know that's possible [08:17] mhr3: I don't think its really off while charging [08:17] still, i wouldn't expect anything running in that mode [08:17] still, not sure if mtp should really be running [08:17] yeah [08:18] mhr3: we need to re-run the tests sadly [08:18] didrocks: is there a big daily tick planned now, or can I run the unity stack manually? [08:19] sil2100: if nothing is running, please feel free [08:36] mzanetti, why no top-approve lazy image? [08:37] Saviq: did I forget? [08:37] mzanetti, dunno :D [08:37] Saviq: done [08:37] mzanetti, tx [08:56] Saviq: regarding that mail from veebers. we still do have the upa module with mir, no? [08:57] mzanetti, upa != qpa [08:57] mzanetti, upa is the autopilot plugin [08:57] mzanetti, and well, sure, we could have it still, but update to mir [08:57] or have a new one [08:57] sorry if the != was not something you got mixed up, but that was the only way I made sense of your question ;P [08:57] Saviq: I'm not sure if a unity dbus interface is way to go [08:58] Saviq: yeah... youre right. I mixed it up [08:58] mzanetti, well, there isn't going to be one in mir ;) [08:58] Saviq: where does unity get the screen information from? [08:58] mzanetti, from mir [08:58] and mir? [09:00] Saviq: what I mean is, it seems it would tie autopilot too closely to unity. for example running the unity8 tests we'd have a chicken egg problem, unless doing some if (unity8) hacks in autopilot etc [09:00] mzanetti, it would just be one module in autopilot [09:00] mzanetti, there's an X11 one, there's UPA (Unity...? Ubuntu...?), so there can be another Unity8 one [09:01] mzanetti, it just loads all of them in sequence (I think) and uses one that works [09:01] Saviq: mhm... ok... yeah. makes sense. [09:03] Saviq: but it still might be read from the same place where Mir actually gets this information from. I don't think Mir is going to make those values up. (except for configured resolution maybe? if that's still a thing nowadays) [09:04] mzanetti, not gonna work, autopilot shouldn't get direct access to that [09:04] mhr3: I think sil2100 will need to revert a commit in unity8 [09:04] mzanetti, and also there's more to that than just the screen geometry [09:04] mhr3: an universe dep added [09:04] so will take more time to get the results first [09:04] mzanetti, like it should take struts (panels) into account, and that's something only Mir/Unity8 will know about [09:06] don't see why it would take panels into account as autopilot is not the one placing the window geometry. but anyways. I guess there are things only unity knows about [09:06] ok... sure, fine with me. just wanted to make sure its really what we want [09:07] didrocks: already did [09:11] didrocks: we have test results for intel from the previous run and there's 17 test failures, so hm... it's not bad, I think that's below the threshold - most of the failures are IBus failures [09:11] didrocks: (just out of IBus curiosity I'll check what's wrong with those) [09:12] didrocks: heh, ibus doesn't start [09:14] sil2100: ok, so now, let's add mhr3's changes on top of that? [09:14] the libunitycore ABI break [09:14] then rebuilding unity7 [09:14] and then unity8 [09:14] and land that [09:14] live in a free and happy world… [09:14] * sil2100 doesn't like the sound of that [09:20] sil2100: don't fear! [09:20] sil2100: or do you want to publish unity7 now? before mhr3's merge [09:20] mhr3: how long for you to do them? [09:21] didrocks, sorry, how long to do what? [09:21] mhr3: the ABI breakage merge [09:21] you have one branch for unity7 [09:21] + bumping the build-dep on unity8, right? [09:21] Saviq: how is unity8 looking btw? good to release? [09:21] didrocks, always [09:21] gorgiousness! [09:21] didrocks, I completed an ask for it this morning [09:22] didrocks, not yet in landing plan, though [09:22] didrocks, it's no api change, so unity8 will be really just version bump change [09:22] Saviq: maybe your hope will get realized thanks to mhr3's ABI breakage :p [09:22] ;) [09:22] mhr3: yeah, just bump the build-dep so that it's easier for us please [09:22] didrocks, k [09:22] mhr3: so, ack to propose them/merge them now [09:23] didrocks, yey! :) [09:23] didrocks, eh [09:23] didrocks, there's this weird thing in unity8 [09:23] libunity-core-6.0-dev (<< 7.80), [09:23] is there some kind of "&& > 7.1.1"? [09:23] >= [09:24] Saviq, or can we get rid of that ^ [09:24] I think this comes from the old time [09:25] (when they had their own copy of unity7) [09:25] so +1 to remove it? [09:25] well, let's wait for Saviq maybe ;) [09:25] mhr3: get the unity7 branch merged meanwhile [09:25] I hope that the upstream merger is using unity7 repository as well [09:25] mhr3, I told pstolowski yesterday that we can get rid of the << [09:26] mhr3, https://code.launchpad.net/~stolowski/unity8/cancel-previews/+merge/187249 [09:26] and it's happening there [09:26] Saviq, mind approving that one then? will be bump + needed change :) [09:27] didrocks: well, I don't want to publish without rebuilding... [09:27] mhr3, you mean reviewing? ;) [09:27] sil2100: ok, let's get mhr3's breakages in then [09:27] Saviq, didn't you do that already? :) [09:27] mhr3, I'd rather you, too, I've no idea about the cancellables [09:27] Saviq, k, i take it as full power to top-approve :) [09:27] mhr3, dude, you have it [09:30] mhr3, especially for the Unity plugin, which, after all, you guys are maintaining ;) [09:31] mhr3, you even have an INPROGRESS work item for that :D [09:31] Saviq, ah, thought it's doing a bit of qml as well [09:31] but yea... i don't need you then :P [09:32] mhr3, nah, that happens in mzanetti's branch [09:32] or should ;) [09:32] what? [09:33] mzanetti, who cancels the previews? does it happen automagically in the Unity plugin? [09:34] Saviq: yeah. when I request a preview, all previous requests are cancelled automatically [09:34] mzanetti, k [09:34] Saviq: there still will be a manual cancel method tho [09:34] Saviq: which I should call when closing the preview [09:34] mzanetti, yup [09:35] sil2100, I think mhr3 trolled you a bit for the duplicate indicator [09:35] sil2100, you have nm-applet (which we use on desktop) and likely indicator-network though ubuntu-system-settings depends [09:36] through* [09:36] Ah ;) [09:41] mhr3: could you ping me once all is prepared for the big-unity-breakage? [09:41] Merged in and etc. [09:42] sil2100, the unity7 branch got approved [09:43] sil2100, finishing review of the unity8 one [09:43] Excellent news, can't wait to see everything broken ;) [09:43] sil2100, then again that won't pass until 7 is merged [09:47] Mirv, https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/fix-qt51-ftbfs-and-unused/+merge/188003 [09:48] mzanetti, you can review ↑, should be 30s [09:48] Saviq: done [09:49] mzanetti, o/ === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [10:10] Saviq, sooo... 5.1 because of the rendering lock ups? [10:10] or just an experiment to see whether is will fix it? [10:11] mhr3, we've supported 5.1 for some time now [10:11] mhr3, just it got broken yesterday [10:11] mhr3, so got it fixed [10:11] ah [10:11] mhr3, but well, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bugs?field.tag=qt5.1 [10:11] Saviq, then the question is - will it be re-integrated in the next week? :) [10:12] meh... tiny things :) [10:14] mhr3, btw... we won't be able to merge the cancel-previews branch until unity goes through [10:14] since we're not in the same stack [10:15] sil2100, ^ problem? [10:15] Saviq, first branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~nicolas-doffay/unity8/search-indicator/+merge/188008 [10:18] nic-doffay, thanks [10:20] sil2100, Saviq, then we can just merge lp:~mhr3/unity8/bump-unity-core-dep manually which only does the bump? [10:20] mhr3, what does it matter? [10:20] Saviq, to ensure that unity8 gets rebuild [10:20] and in the correct order [10:21] mhr3, it will get rebuilt when we merge the preview-cancel branch [10:21] mhr3, before that we don't care [10:21] mhr3, since you're bumping SONAME [10:21] mhr3, so unity8 depends on the previous SONAME [10:21] Saviq, yea, but it conflicts with the old soname, so upgrade would remove unity8 [10:22] mhr3, so it won't upgrade [10:22] mhr3, or if someone does dist-upgrade, they'll know what they're doing [10:22] or at least should [10:22] Saviq, ultimately this is distro thing, didrocks wanted it [10:22] mhr3, why does it conflict, btw? [10:23] pkg magics [10:23] isn't the whole idea behind SONAMEs that you can have multiple versions installed simultaneously? [10:23] both would provide unity-common which they can't or something [10:23] ah [10:23] yea.. i know it's weird [10:23] something's broken there, then... [10:24] didrocks, sil2100 how do we proceed with libunity-core / unity8? we can't merge the >> 7.1.1 until it's released [10:25] * >= [10:25] Ok [10:25] hmmm [10:25] or that [10:26] mhr3, Saviq: let me run the unity stack to rebuild unity-core [10:26] sil2100, works for me, we'll have to wait for it to get into distro, though, right? seeing as they're not part of the same stack? [10:28] Saviq: it will at least help in getting the change merged into unity8, as the merger is using daily-build PPA (or at least should) [10:28] Saviq: for building the unity8 stack, we can force using the whole PPA [10:28] sil2100, ok if it does then we're good [10:28] sil2100, yup [10:28] so... false alarm [10:29] Saviq: fginther told me that all projects are using daily-build by default, if not disabled [10:29] sil2100, k cool [10:30] mhr3, btw, the -isactive branch is waiting for that, too? [10:31] mhr3, seeing as it fails to build completely? should it depend on >= 7.1.1, too? [10:31] Saviq, yep [10:31] nic-doffay, is the search-progress branch MP'd separately? [10:33] Saviq, nic's branch is built on top of my search-in-progress (prop for the unity plugin), and search-isactive is extending search-in-progress, so when reviewing that pls ignore the plugin changes, the entire thing is in search-isactive [10:34] mhr3, yeah, but it should prereq it, then, no? [10:34] Saviq, well, it's an older version of the branch that doesn't need the bump [10:34] so that one isn't mp-ed by itself [10:35] mhr3, won't it conflict then if we merge the plugin changes for search progress and then -isactive? [10:35] cause you know... why do things the simple way :P [10:35] Saviq, nah, should be fine [10:35] mhr3, k [10:35] if it will i'll resolve it myself [10:35] but i trust bzr :P [10:50] mzanetti, jenkins still hates me [10:55] Cimi: hmm... but its only 3 of the tests now [10:55] After 10.0 seconds test on HudButton.opacity failed: 1.0 != dbus.Double(0.5, variant_level=1) [10:56] this seems strange... do all the tests pass now on your device? [10:56] Cimi: ^ [10:57] mzanetti, where do you see this? [10:57] Cimi: in the jenkins logs [10:57] mzanetti, ah, last link [10:57] mzanetti, was checking out the first === mzanetti is now known as mzanetti|lunch [11:00] mzanetti|lunch: ping. is dbus allowed in unity8 unit tests? [11:01] Saviq: ^ ? [11:01] dednick, ideally no [11:01] dednick, everything should be mocked out [11:02] Saviq: hm. it's to do with unitymenumodel. [11:03] dednick, I thought so [11:04] dednick, and well, I imagine it'd be quite big to mock out? [11:04] Saviq: er yeah, i wouldnt even know how to go about it. Would def need changes in qmenumodel-qml [11:05] dednick, well, we already replace qmenumodel-qml [11:05] dednick, i.e. we have a QML-only mock [11:05] Saviq: i mean the unitymenumodel inseide qmenumodel-qml [11:05] Saviq: ah. hm.. maybe possible [11:06] dednick, MacSlow added a minimal UnityMenuModel.qml to his snap decisions branch [11:06] dednick, to make the qml tests pass [11:07] Saviq: ok. i'm not sure about mocking in qml though. the object i'm testing is cpp. [11:07] dednick, just in case... http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~macslow/unity8/extended-snap-decisions-part1/revision/311 [11:07] dednick, well, yeah, we might need to move down to cpp [11:07] MacSlow: ta [11:08] Saviq: ok, i'll look into it [11:08] thanks [11:10] Saviq, could we change the renderer video uses? it's using the dvd-cover portrait thing even though pretty much all the results we'll have in 13.10 will be landscape [11:11] (talking about the online category there)... not sure about my videos, those will be both i suppose [11:11] mhr3, yeah, but more landscape anyway [11:11] mhr3, probably, yeah, pick it up with Oren? [11:12] Saviq, will do [11:25] how is it going? [11:25] mhr3: merged both? [11:25] sil2100: ^ [11:26] didrocks: untiy is still building! So I guess soon unity8 pieces should be merged in [11:27] ok ;) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:28] didrocks, unity8 can't be merged before unity7 is [11:28] mhr3: you mean, in the daily-build ppa? [11:28] right [11:28] or is it there now? [11:29] mhr3: it's building still [11:29] paulliu, ping [11:29] yea, so waiting... [11:29] Cimi, one for you, bug #1231937 [11:29] bug 1231937 in Unity 8 "Video renderer is not to spec" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1231937 [11:36] mhr3, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+sourcepub/3532745/+listing-archive-extra [11:37] Saviq, thx, approved cancel-previews [11:37] mhr3, probably too soon [11:37] mhr3, amd64 and armhf aren't there yet [11:38] oh well.. we'll see [11:38] Saviq, btw seems like we need special weather grid as well [11:38] +will [11:39] Saviq, ? [11:40] mhr3, "we will need"? [11:40] we already have weather results if you search for cities [11:40] mhr3, ah, that hting [11:40] and the text is already overflowing a bit :) [11:42] Saviq, and one last renderer q - seems we can forget about dynamic renderer for 13.10, i'll replace all "dynamic" with something static if you're ok with that? [11:42] mhr3, +1 [11:43] mhr3, one more for dash plugins, btw [11:44] oh.. crap, we don't have enough renderer types for that in apps :/ [11:44] mhr3, yeah, it's really a different content type, isn't it... [11:44] well.. yea [11:45] but it's the same problem, Iknow [11:45] * Saviq hates gdocs' slides... I WANT TO ZOOM IN! [11:46] also, do i see a weather preview there? :) [11:46] wooo [11:47] yeah [11:47] adding to "not-to-spec list" [11:47] paulliu, you had a branch that rendered the info hints? === hikiko is now known as hikiko|lunch [11:48] was that only for movies or for any preview? [11:50] bug #1231951 bug #1231948 [11:50] bug 1231951 in Unity 8 "Need a renderer for dash plugins" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1231951 [11:50] bug 1231948 in Unity 8 "Need a renderer for weather" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1231948 [11:51] Cimi, those are for you atm, but we might take them away from you at some point ;) [11:51] mhr3, so what do we do with the dash plugins? [11:51] Saviq, i'll think of something [11:51] mhr3, can we ride the wave on unity's ABI bump again today? [11:51] new content type or whatever [11:52] * Saviq remembers saying that we should use strings for that :D [11:52] Saviq, i knew you'd mention that :P [11:52] Saviq, anyway, it'll be just new api, no need to rebuild anything [11:52] besides libunity itself [11:53] mhr3, k [11:55] mhr3, affected libunity on bug #1231951 [11:55] bug 1231951 in Unity 8 "Need a renderer for dash plugins" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1231951 [11:55] thx [11:55] * Saviq food [12:00] mhr3: not yet. I'm about to implement it. [12:00] mhr3: Currently fixing the design-branch currently [12:06] sil2100, didrocks http://10.97.2.10:8080/job/unity8-saucy-i386-autolanding/509/console [12:06] too soon, or daily ppa not enabled there? ^ === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:10] fginther: ping [12:11] mzanetti|lunch: https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/unity8/unity8-fixgenericpreview/+merge/187762 [12:15] mhr3: hi [12:15] mhr3: so is there any design docs for the hints to be displayed? [12:20] guys I have issues with network [12:20] no more network card [12:20] what happened with indicator-network? [12:20] on my laptop [12:20] I'm considering reinstalling [12:27] fginther: ping [12:28] mhr3: we need fginther around to access the merger bits ;/ === mzanetti|lunch is now known as mzanetti [12:36] paulliu: cheers [12:37] greyback: hey [12:37] greyback: it's still not possible to run unity with mir and some command line args. [12:38] as mir aborts for some reason [12:38] mzanetti: yep https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1226227 [12:38] Ubuntu bug 1226227 in Mir "libmirserver parses arguments and fails if it's not something it understands" [Medium,Triaged] [12:39] mzanetti: it's pretty high up on my fix list, can you wait a day? [12:39] greyback: sure... I just need to start debugging stuff with mir enabled. and this makes it quite uncomfortable [12:40] mzanetti: thanks. I'll now work on infoHints and the movie-preview. [12:41] paulliu: ok. cool. FYI: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/switching-previews/+merge/187327 [12:41] mzanetti: yep, understood. [12:42] paulliu, Saviq, i'd say let's make the info hints look like what's designed for weather, objections? [12:42] of course specific preview renderers might know better [12:42] paulliu, that's last slide on https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentation/d/1X3_G6reCpcFJxzxn1Xtv9wK5n3-wOW-6z2l0qSZ8-sg/edit#slide=id.g1026aae2e_225 [12:43] cyphermox: what is the correct component to report bugs related to Networking on the phone? [12:44] cyphermox: to be precise: cellular networking doesn't really work at all. Except you completely disable wifi and reboot. [12:44] and even then it only comes up every second time [12:44] mhr3: ok.. I'll puit that after the descriptions in GenericPreview. === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === hikiko|lunch is now known as hikiko === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:51] paulliu, mhr3 yeah, sounds about right, although that takes quite a bit of space [12:51] Saviq, that's good, some previews often have only that and no other data [12:51] mhr3, right, good for me then [12:52] mzanetti: make sure you are running the very latest image, and you can file bugs against network-manager with a full copy of syslog [12:52] mhr3: not sure TBH… [12:52] mhr3: can something try to build it locally, like Saviq? [12:52] and we push to trunk directly [12:52] (as dailies is just around the corner, we'll know if it's broken quickly and can back out) [12:52] didrocks, sil suggested waiting for fginther [12:52] mhr3: I'm afraid about the timing [12:52] time to get that in [12:52] time to test [12:52] cyphermox: ok. will do so... thanks [12:52] time to push that to distro [12:53] time to have someone in the release team to review it… [12:53] let's see what Saviq thinks about it [12:53] * didrocks takes a shower meanwhile [12:54] didrocks, mhr3, I'm here, but not sure what's happening? [12:54] Saviq, just a check that it builds afaiu [12:54] * Saviq reads backlog [12:54] and push to trunk if it builds [12:54] then, we kick dailies [12:54] and we know/test if it's good or not [12:55] will be easy to revert if not [12:56] didrocks, mhr3 do we really need this in? can't it just wait its turn? what're we gaining? [12:56] Saviq: maybe 2 hours [12:56] didrocks, mhr3 is it only about rebuilding unity8 after libunity merged? [12:56] Saviq: and avoiding having sil2100 going to bed at 10PM [12:57] Saviq, i'm fine if we push just the bump [12:57] lp:~mhr3/unity8/bump-unity-core-dep [12:57] Saviq, yep [12:57] Saviq: right [12:57] ok, /me tries with daily-build enabled [12:57] sil2100, right, so upstream merger doesn't have daily-build in the end, does it [12:57] right [12:59] though so, and thought it was on purpose - as we only wanted per-stack archives... just that unity8 should be in the same stack unity is... [13:02] Saviq: I think the merger doesn't use the notation of stacks, but probably they removed the dependency indeed [13:03] sil2100, it does [13:03] sil2100, we have a per-stack local repo [13:04] sil2100, so anything that gets merged into trunk [13:04] sil2100, goes into that per-stack local repo [13:04] sil2100, so say, if unity-api merges something in trunk, we can build against it even though it's not there yet in distro - but it's not using daily-build PPA [13:04] That's something ;) [13:05] we should have PPAs for that - /me loves that daily release uses PPAs for building and not local pbuilders [13:15] Saviq I'm feeling a lil sick I need to rest for a bit… bad food maybe :\ I am working on autopilot tests (again, they fail on jenkins) and plugin for sim card for welcome wizard [13:15] using ofono the latter [13:15] Cimi, k, feel better [13:16] you need to stop eating but food, people! [13:16] we're in berserker mode! ;) [13:16] Saviq, heh, london [13:16] s/but/bad/ [13:16] heh [13:16] that was bad spelling [13:16] I'll be fine in essn than an hour, just time to digest [13:16] *les [13:16] *less [13:17] Saviq: does it build correctly with the bump of mhr3's? [13:17] sil2100, pong [13:17] sil2100, checking now [13:19] mterry: ping [13:19] kgunn, hello [13:19] mterry: hey...sorry to distract you from wizard work :) [13:20] mterry: but i gotta hot bug [13:20] kgunn, :) [13:20] kgunn, ok, good, throw it over === pete-woods is now known as pete-woods-foodl [13:20]