| ochosi | brainwash: woot | 07:34 |
|---|---|---|
| ochosi | holy smokes, but why? | 07:36 |
| ochosi | btw, it's sufficient to add a background-color, you can leave the background-image set as it is | 07:39 |
| ochosi | anyway, pushed the fix to bluebird, greybird and orion | 08:10 |
| ochosi | the weird thing is that the background-color should be inherited by that widget anyway, but it seems the weird way abiword creates a testwidget to get the themecolors involves an entry | 08:32 |
| knome | hoi | 08:32 |
| ochosi | and it only gets the background-color attribute, not the -image | 08:32 |
| ochosi | it's a bit silly but tbh i don't care about abiword enough to investigate this to the bottom | 08:32 |
| ochosi | hoi knome | 08:33 |
| ochosi | knome: so the first three known issues of b2 have fixes in the pipe | 08:33 |
| knome | nice | 08:33 |
| ochosi | i mean 1,2 and 4 | 08:34 |
| ochosi | indicator-plugin is still in limbo, i assume | 08:34 |
| knome | heh | 08:34 |
| Noskcaj | ochosi, Someone needs to find a way to get micah to finish packaging that. | 08:36 |
| ochosi | well he doesn't seem to be around much atm | 08:37 |
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| brainwash | ochosi: o/ | 09:01 |
| ochosi | hey | 09:01 |
| brainwash | we need to push that fix | 09:02 |
| brainwash | :P | 09:02 |
| ochosi | i wanna try and get it in in one upload with the greeter fix | 09:04 |
| brainwash | ok | 09:05 |
| brainwash | ochosi: any idea regarding bug 1221809 ? we both were affected after upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10 | 09:09 |
| ubottu | bug 1221809 in xfce4-session (Ubuntu) "systemd-shim removal causes restart to logout" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1221809 | 09:09 |
| ochosi | well it needs to be set as a depend | 09:09 |
| ochosi | but we'd need to talk to either mr_pouit or micahg about this issue | 09:10 |
| knome | depend to what? | 09:10 |
| brainwash | consolekit was set as recommended, and recommended packages don't get pulled in when upgrading, or? | 09:10 |
| knome | they normally do | 09:10 |
| knome | but if you have uninstalled before upgrading, they don't | 09:11 |
| knome | or if you use --no-install-recommends (or something else to make that setting permanent) | 09:11 |
| brainwash | yes, this is the case, people might have removed "systemd-shim" | 09:11 |
| brainwash | but adding to the list of recommended packages might be still a good idea | 09:12 |
| knome | should be added to depends, so people can't remove that. | 09:13 |
| brainwash | (just checking all my bookmarked launchpad report, and this one is still open without confirmation from a maintainer) | 09:13 |
| brainwash | reports | 09:14 |
| knome | b2 is out, published announcement and tweeted | 09:33 |
| knome | pleia2, | 09:33 |
| brainwash | added the upstream bug report to bug 1229486 | 10:21 |
| ubottu | bug 1229486 in xfce4-session (Ubuntu) "Lock screen before sleep doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1229486 | 10:21 |
| brainwash | I think this issue has been around since forever | 10:28 |
| ochosi | we might be able to get rid of that with light-locker in 14.04 | 10:30 |
| ochosi | because it locks before suspend by default | 10:30 |
| brainwash | ochosi: remember when I asked you about this when talking about light-locker weeks ago? it did bother me that light-locker wasn't able to lock the session immediately after suspend :) | 10:32 |
| ochosi | yeah, true | 10:33 |
| ochosi | but it listens to the signals | 10:33 |
| ochosi | so not that much more we can do about it | 10:33 |
| ochosi | unless it gets better integration into powermanager or session | 10:33 |
| brainwash | so question might be, why does the execution of xflock4 get delayed in some cases? hardware-specific? | 10:34 |
| brainwash | the suspend process can differ alot, also the needed time to fully suspend | 10:35 |
| ochosi | i think that the session would have to handle it | 10:36 |
| brainwash | the session calls xflock4 | 10:36 |
| ochosi | but the question is, can the session still execute things like suspend after it is locked | 10:36 |
| ochosi | i really don't know enough about sessions | 10:37 |
| ochosi | but as ubuntu plans to integrate light-locker by default we can see how they handle it ;) | 10:37 |
| brainwash | damn vt switching =S | 10:37 |
| ochosi | yeah, we'll also see about that | 10:38 |
| ochosi | that used to be the blocker for light-locker | 10:38 |
| ochosi | or for something like light-locker | 10:38 |
| ochosi | ofc no-one likes the flickering | 10:38 |
| brainwash | I can't use slock or i3lock in saucy, because it tends to corrupt the screen (xorg) after unlocking | 10:39 |
| brainwash | so I'm using gnome-screensaver now | 10:39 |
| brainwash | I'll check the xfce4-session source code, maybe there is something which could be improved | 10:41 |
| baizon | hi, just wanted to mention http://xubuntu.org/news/saucy-salamander-b2/ , link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Beta2/Xubuntu got a wrong url | 10:44 |
| baizon | it has: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Beta2/Xubuntu?action=edit&editor=text | 10:44 |
| baizon | but i think it should be : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Beta2/Xubuntu | 10:44 |
| baizon | when i click on the link i get: "You are not allowed to edit this page. " | 10:44 |
| ochosi | baizon: thanks, fixed! | 10:51 |
| ochosi | brainwash: fix for bug #1227735 pushed to git | 10:59 |
| ubottu | bug 1227735 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "lightdm-gtk-greeter: disable/fix password input field context menu" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1227735 | 10:59 |
| brainwash | ochosi: context menu [ok], abiword ruler [ok] | 11:25 |
| brainwash | the xfce4 settings daemon is causing some trouble on my test system | 11:26 |
| brainwash | can anyone confirm, that xfce4-terminal crashes when you navigate to Menu bar > Terminal > Set Encoding ? | 11:27 |
| brainwash | it does on both installations here | 11:28 |
| ali1234 | yes, it crashed | 11:29 |
| brainwash | can you upload the apport report? don't feel like enabling apport anytime soon | 11:35 |
| ali1234 | i have non-standard packages installed so it won't let me | 11:37 |
| ali1234 | launchpad will just mark it invalid | 11:38 |
| ali1234 | it is already reported | 11:39 |
| ali1234 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-terminal/+bug/1206739 | 11:39 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1206739 in xfce4-terminal (Ubuntu) "xfce4-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV in magazine_chain_pop_head()" [Medium,Confirmed] | 11:39 |
| brainwash | yes | 11:42 |
| brainwash | unable to connect to ibus | 11:43 |
| brainwash | I enabled apport, but the terminal did not trigger it | 11:44 |
| brainwash | ibus-ui-gtk3 did trigger apport (gtk3 indicator I guess) | 11:47 |
| ali1234 | this may be related to the keyboard indicator not working | 11:47 |
| brainwash | right | 11:48 |
| brainwash | this gtk2/gtk3 transition did break much stuff | 11:48 |
| brainwash | bug 1224496 | 11:52 |
| ubottu | bug 1224496 in ibus (Ubuntu) "ibus crashes on login" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1224496 | 11:52 |
| ochosi | brainwash: yeah, i can confirm that too | 12:04 |
| ochosi | bbl | 12:04 |
| ToZ | anyone know why pm-utils is not installed by default on 13.10? | 13:06 |
| brainwash | ToZ: nice find, strange indeed | 13:25 |
| brainwash | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/saucy/beta-2/xubuntu-13.10-beta2-desktop-amd64.manifest | 13:25 |
| GridCube | its there any test needed? | 13:26 |
| ToZ | brainwash, installing it fixes bugs 1229486 & 1229478 that I noticed during testing. | 13:27 |
| ubottu | bug 1229486 in xfce4-session (Ubuntu) "Lock screen before sleep doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1229486 | 13:27 |
| brainwash | ToZ: no clue, why xubuntu is the only spin not shipping pm-utils anymore | 13:30 |
| brainwash | maybe a dependency for it needs to be added (xubuntu-desktop) | 13:31 |
| brainwash | ToZ: "System does successfully suspend when lid closed or "sudo pm-suspend"." | 13:38 |
| brainwash | so pm-suspend was not missing? | 13:39 |
| ToZ | pm-suspend was missing, yes | 13:43 |
| ToZ | oops, I'll correct that in the report. | 13:44 |
| brainwash | I suggest filing a bug report against xubuntu-meta and requesting pm-utils to be included by default | 13:45 |
| ToZ | Interesting. "sudo pm-suspend" doesn't lock the screen. Suspend from the menu or lid close does. | 13:47 |
| brainwash | kinda expected I guess | 13:48 |
| ToZ | why? | 13:48 |
| brainwash | xfce4-screensaver does not detect suspend/resume and will not lock the screen automatically | 13:49 |
| ToZ | "xubuntu-meta" does not exist? Can't file bug report. | 13:49 |
| brainwash | gnome-screensaver on the other hand is able to | 13:49 |
| knome | that'd be xscreensaver | 13:49 |
| brainwash | yea | 13:50 |
| knome | we're about to make changes to the locking on 14.04, i don't think we will dig too deep in this with 13.10 | 13:50 |
| brainwash | xscreensaver | 13:50 |
| brainwash | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta | 13:50 |
| brainwash | knome: getting a bit confused by the terminology :D | 13:51 |
| knome | that happens | 13:51 |
| ToZ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/1232027 | 13:53 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1232027 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "pm-utils not installed by default in 13.10" [Undecided,New] | 13:53 |
| brainwash | knome: can you triage the bug report and assign a priority please? | 13:55 |
| knome | done. | 14:01 |
| brainwash | thanks | 14:02 |
| brainwash | knome: could also add bug 1206739 to the list of known beta bugs please? | 14:04 |
| ubottu | bug 1206739 in xfce4-terminal (Ubuntu) "xfce4-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV in magazine_chain_pop_head()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1206739 | 14:04 |
| knome | brainwash, i don't think that's critical enough | 14:04 |
| knome | that happens, but there are many more crashes | 14:04 |
| brainwash | but the terminal geeks will be sad :/ | 14:05 |
| GridCube | its there any test i could to today? | 14:05 |
| knome | brainwash, we can't list everybody xubuntu has, can we? | 14:05 |
| knome | *every bug | 14:05 |
| knome | GridCube, well, b2 is released but you can always test the daily | 14:05 |
| brainwash | knome: yea, we better don't do that :) | 14:05 |
| knome | besides, b2 is released, that's already missing :P | 14:07 |
| knome | can't keep on adding new bugs | 14:08 |
| pleia2 | knome: thanks g+ed too (and it x-posted to fb as expected, yay) | 15:58 |
| knome | :) | 16:30 |
| pleia2 | happy beta2 day for real | 16:38 |
| knome | you too | 16:41 |
| knome | off | 16:52 |
| knome | see you later | 16:53 |
| pleia2 | enjoy | 17:00 |
| brainwash | ochosi: remember that we talked about the appfinder showing up with a noticeable delay? I told you that it shows up instantly on my test system, now few days later I can confirm this issue | 18:00 |
| elfy | I can confirm that it's still immediate here :) | 18:01 |
| brainwash | yes, on my main system it's still instant | 18:02 |
| brainwash | bug 1048805 | 18:10 |
| ubottu | bug 1048805 in xfce4-appfinder (Ubuntu) "xfrun4 launches very slowly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048805 | 18:10 |
| brainwash | the last 2 comments are amazing | 18:10 |
| olbi | hello all :D | 18:12 |
| brainwash | elfy: just curious, do you run xubuntu saucy on a laptop/notebook? | 18:21 |
| elfy | brainwash: not in general | 18:22 |
| elfy | I use a laptop to test iso's mostly | 18:23 |
| elfy | hi olbi | 18:23 |
| pleia2 | hmm, i think it's time to formally upgrade my laptop | 18:28 |
| olbi | pleia2: which Xubuntu do you have on laptop? | 18:31 |
| pleia2 | olbi: I have 13.04 on 2 laptops and 2 desktops, 12.04 on my netbook | 18:31 |
| pleia2 | going to upgrade non-work laptop to 13.10 today | 18:32 |
| olbi | I think that 13.10 isn't stable yet :) | 18:32 |
| olbi | I have sometimes crash with USC :P | 18:33 |
| elfy | use it to install synaptic ... :p | 18:33 |
| pleia2 | olbi: if you're not already, can you submit bug reports for issues you find so we can tackle them before release? | 18:35 |
| pleia2 | we depend on folks like you using it to catch things :) | 18:35 |
| baizon | elfy: then a question. I have a strange behavior... while my laptop shuts down, if i close him the system gets into suspend instead of finishing the shutdown process. You have the same behavior maybe? | 18:35 |
| olbi | hmm, I gave it :) | 18:36 |
| baizon | not sure if only me is affected | 18:36 |
| elfy | baizon: I can check that | 18:36 |
| baizon | thank you | 18:37 |
| olbi | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1230123 | 18:39 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1230123 in software-center (Ubuntu) "software-center crashed after installing software" [Undecided,New] | 18:39 |
| olbi | and the most annoying is that sound menu :P | 18:40 |
| elfy | olbi: the sound notification issue? | 18:40 |
| olbi | yes | 18:41 |
| baizon | olbi: there is a simple workaround | 18:41 |
| olbi | I have found temporary fix at launchpad and it's working | 18:41 |
| elfy | baizon: ok - what I am seeing is this - Shutdown, close lid, open lid, press power button - shutdown not finished but interrrupted, finishes shutdown | 18:42 |
| baizon | elfy: yes so its a bug | 18:43 |
| elfy | seems so | 18:43 |
| elfy | baizon: you going to report it ? | 18:44 |
| baizon | no, will do in a sec | 18:44 |
| elfy | ok - let me know and I'll me too it | 18:44 |
| brainwash | shutdown takes 1 sec on my main system, not much time to actually close the lid that fast | 18:44 |
| elfy | :) | 18:44 |
| baizon | brainwash: some for me | 18:45 |
| olbi | hmm, which files are responsible for translation items from Settings Manager? | 18:45 |
| baizon | but when i "click" log out, i close the lid and it can happen then | 18:45 |
| brainwash | logout? | 18:46 |
| brainwash | weren't we talking about shutdoen? :) | 18:46 |
| elfy | we were | 18:46 |
| brainwash | I noticed some strange behavior when suspending for a longer time frame, after resuming the session won't let me perform actions like reboot/shutdown/.. and the network manager remains in an idle state (deactivated) | 18:50 |
| brainwash | hard to tell if it is a reproducible issue, or some race condition occurring after resume | 18:52 |
| baizon | brainwash: i ment the log out dialog | 18:52 |
| brainwash | you open the dialog, hit the shutdown button and close the lid? | 18:53 |
| baizon | brainwash: yes | 18:54 |
| elfy | I'm not sure it suspends so much as interrupts the shutdown | 18:55 |
| elfy | because opening the lid and hitting the power button just lets the shutdown continue | 18:55 |
| elfy | like this one | 18:58 |
| elfy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/138194 | 18:58 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 138194 in indicator-session (Ubuntu) "Closing lid during initial shutdown causes notebook to suspend" [Low,Confirmed] | 18:58 |
| baizon | elfy: well it is the same bug | 18:59 |
| elfy | baizon: yea - seems to be an old hanging one then | 19:00 |
| baizon | but this bug didn't occur on my 13.04 system | 19:00 |
| baizon | wait a sec | 19:01 |
| elfy | well I can't comment on that as I never reaqlly use the laptop for long enough to notice | 19:01 |
| baizon | ok, so the problem is, i set my laptop to do nothing when i close the lid but it gets into suspend | 19:03 |
| elfy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1232103 | 19:05 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1232103 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Computer suspends when lid is closed, but it shouldn't." [Undecided,New] | 19:05 |
| elfy | that's on AC | 19:05 |
| baizon | ok got a fix/workaround | 19:16 |
| baizon | elfy: posted it | 19:19 |
| elfy | number? | 19:20 |
| knome | elfy, see same bug | 19:20 |
| elfy | oh right | 19:21 |
| baizon | ok, the only bug i have is that my sessions are getting saved | 19:25 |
| brainwash | once again some systemd shenanigans | 19:32 |
| brainwash | however, I start to like systemd :) | 19:36 |
| brainwash | elfy: can you share the link to the xubuntu developer pad please? | 19:39 |
| elfy | brainwash: which one - I've got a bunch of them | 19:41 |
| brainwash | the interactive pad | 19:42 |
| elfy | you mean an empty one? | 19:42 |
| brainwash | no, the xubuntu beta one | 19:42 |
| elfy | http://pad.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu1310Beta2Release | 19:43 |
| elfy | brainwash: I've got loads of different xubuntu ones kicking about :) | 19:43 |
| brainwash | elfy: thanks :) | 19:43 |
| knome | we're not following the beta one too much any more, maybe you should start another one with the bugs if you want to have some kind of list | 19:52 |
| brainwash | so no plans to continue this sort of bug tracking? | 19:56 |
| knome | that depends | 19:56 |
| knome | the critical bugs should be listed in the blueprints | 19:57 |
| knome | the rest... people who work on them should keep a track of them (and that's easily done when you're the assignee on LP= | 19:57 |
| knome | ) | 19:57 |
| knome | there are ways to find all the bugs reported via the iso tracker to xubuntu from LP | 19:57 |
| knome | the launchpad advanced search is really powerful | 19:58 |
| knome | if people explain and argument why tracking bugs elsewhere is better and it makes sense, then let's do it | 19:58 |
| knome | elfy, any arguments for doing something else than LP tracking since we last talked? ^ | 19:59 |
| elfy | none - once I could see how to do it | 19:59 |
| elfy | and that it worked | 20:00 |
| knome | i suppose ultimately, even if you wanted to do some manual tracking, the easiest way is keep tagging stuff | 20:01 |
| elfy | yep | 20:01 |
| knome | xubuntu-1310 or so | 20:01 |
| knome | then just filter out the bugs with those tags | 20:01 |
| elfy | worth thinking about perhaps - but it'll need to be a proper system for tags | 20:01 |
| brainwash | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-s-development | 20:01 |
| elfy | no good each of us using different tags | 20:02 |
| brainwash | this one here? | 20:02 |
| knome | i don't know about the thinking; the purpose should make it obvious what the tag should be | 20:02 |
| knome | brainwash, that's the blueprint. | 20:02 |
| knome | elfy, you have the iso-tracker filtered bugs around handy or should i recreate that? | 20:02 |
| elfy | knome: I agree - but if we've a bunch of people all thinking this makes sense | 20:02 |
| knome | heh, sure | 20:03 |
| elfy | 2 secs | 20:03 |
| elfy | http://tinyurl.com/qzxv9t7 | 20:03 |
| elfy | knome: that list? | 20:05 |
| knome | yep | 20:05 |
| knome | brainwash, ^ that's the bugs from iso testing | 20:05 |
| Noskcaj | knome, Did you ever get time to look at the new debian release of xfwm4? It's a (rather important) doc fix | 20:06 |
| brainwash | knome: ok, thanks :) | 20:06 |
| knome | Noskcaj, as i said back then, i'm fine with getting them both in, but somebody needs to take care of that, and thought you would be up for it | 20:07 |
| Noskcaj | knome, I was waiting for micahg and mr_pouit to reply. I've already made the sync bug, i'll make a branch today | 20:07 |
| elfy | brainwash: pads are great for collaborative stuff - but without the link they're no good to anyone else :) | 20:08 |
| knome | Noskcaj, as i also said back then, you shouldn't count on them doing the work | 20:08 |
| knome | Noskcaj, thanks for taking care | 20:08 |
| Noskcaj | ok | 20:08 |
| Noskcaj | no problem | 20:08 |
| Noskcaj | looks like i've got a kernal upgrade to do first | 20:10 |
| olbi | Xubuntu will have Linux 3.10 or we go for 3.11 in plans? | 20:24 |
| Noskcaj | olbi, I've just had 3.11 installed, but that might be from proposed | 20:38 |
| olbi | me too have 3.11 :D | 20:39 |
| olbi | after upgrading :) | 20:39 |
| olbi | no proposal repo | 20:39 |
| elfy | I've had 3.11 for ages | 20:39 |
| brainwash | ^ since forever | 20:39 |
| elfy | well - I've told you a million times ;) | 20:40 |
| brainwash | 3.2, 3.5, 3.8, 3.11 | 20:40 |
| olbi | https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/2013q3-intel-graphics-stack-release - yuppi :D | 20:47 |
| olbi | I will check it soon :) | 20:47 |
| ochosi | brainwash: hm, meh, not good... | 21:23 |
| brainwash | ochosi: after fixing some bugs new ones appear out of nowhere :/ | 21:24 |
| brainwash | never ending cycle | 21:24 |
| ochosi | yeah | 21:25 |
| ochosi | this cycle is quite unstable (again) | 21:25 |
| brainwash | yea, mainly due to the systemd/logind and gtk3 transition | 21:26 |
| brainwash | gtk3 indicators | 21:26 |
| ochosi | well the gtk3 indicators have been coming ournway a few releases now | 21:29 |
| ochosi | it's just getting gradually worse | 21:30 |
| brainwash | the Xfce team isn't making any noticeable progress with gtk3 | 21:31 |
| brainwash | and glib 2.37 is causing some trouble too | 21:33 |
| ochosi | aha. | 21:34 |
| ochosi | ? | 21:34 |
| brainwash | bug 1206739 | 21:34 |
| ubottu | bug 1206739 in xfce4-terminal (Ubuntu) "xfce4-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV in magazine_chain_pop_head()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1206739 | 21:34 |
| ochosi | (thatdot should've been a question mark) | 21:34 |
| ochosi | ah, that's a glib bug? didnt get a chance to read the report after confirming it | 21:35 |
| brainwash | I'm trying to debug this one, but gdb crashes | 21:35 |
| ochosi | is it reported upstream too? | 21:35 |
| brainwash | did not check yet | 21:35 |
| brainwash | maybe ubuntu specific | 21:36 |
| ochosi | :/ | 21:36 |
| brainwash | I'm trying to fix another pending bug.. sadly I might lack some knowledge about debugging properly | 21:38 |
| ochosi | what other vug. | 21:45 |
| brainwash | what? | 21:45 |
| ochosi | (ipad keyboard fail..) | 21:45 |
| ochosi | what other bug? | 21:46 |
| brainwash | oh, my mistake | 21:47 |
| brainwash | s/fix/find | 21:47 |
| ochosi | haha | 21:47 |
| brainwash | most of my bookmarked bug reports are closed now | 21:47 |
| ochosi | poor you! :) | 21:48 |
| brainwash | got any bug reports you could need help with? | 21:49 |
| ochosi | well there are a few things we wanna fix in the greeter | 21:57 |
| ochosi | e.g. when the userlist is disabled, make 'enter' go to the password field | 21:58 |
| ochosi | also, possibly add alt+f4 for the shutdown dialog | 21:58 |
| ochosi | and improve kb support in that dialog too | 21:58 |
| ochosi | and always set a default button | 21:59 |
| brainwash | sounds interesting | 21:59 |
| ochosi | (btw, really awesome work so far, thanks for all your contributions,) | 21:59 |
| ochosi | s/,/!/ | 22:00 |
| brainwash | (glad I could help a bit) | 22:00 |
| brainwash | :D | 22:00 |
| ochosi | :) | 22:00 |
| brainwash | I guess I'll put the greeter on my todo list, to test and try things, basically to learn how everything works | 22:01 |
| ochosi | sweet | 22:02 |
| brainwash | and the greeter isn't that complex either | 22:02 |
| ochosi | yup | 22:02 |
| brainwash | but first I'll try to debug the terminal encoding menu thingy :) | 22:03 |
| ochosi | cool :) | 22:03 |
| brainwash | there is a nice discussion about pm-utils over at #ubuntu-devel | 23:00 |
| brainwash | don't miss it :) | 23:01 |
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