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hatchI really have no idea what's wrong atm but I can look into it00:00
MakyoNext week.00:01
hatchmaybe :)00:02
hatchsometimes I get stuck on an idea and need to solve it haha00:02
MakyoWe should nail down why render isn't idempotent (or why it is in a few cases if it shouldn't be), why you can't unbind/rebind events, ditto data-binding, etc. etc.  None of these are clear, and so effort is being spent in blind alleys.00:03
MakyoThat's fair. I'll be around this weekend on personal projects, ping me if you come up with things and I can set those aside.00:03
hatchMakyo: yeah I agree - seems to be the m.o. with viewlets - these use cases keep poping up which it was never intended to be used for00:05
hatchso we never set out guidelines for these things00:05
MakyoYeah, that's fair.  Maybe if I get some free time one of these weekends, I'll do a thorough documentation of viewlets so we at least know what's there, even if there isn't a pattern.00:07
hatchWe are skirting the line of Views now00:07
hatchthe line is getting thinner and thinner :)00:07
hatchbcsaller: review and qa done - just one q00:14
bcsallerhatch: while I agree, that is the actual system state, if we want to list pending actions in a better way that what notifications should do00:17
bcsalleralmost all of our actions have real world delays, drawing something else in the meantime isn't really the answer00:18
bcsallerits the same principal as with the Dying state we talked about today00:18
hatchright - but any indicator of the dying state isn't coming for a while, so right now (if the delay is long) the user may click on it and attempt to destroy it, wondering why it's not working00:19
hatchso while I think what you did is what we want to move towards - it might be a little premature00:19
hatchI can be convinced otherwise I suppose00:19
bcsallerhatch: maybe some improvement to the notification story should happen first00:31
hatchagreed00:31
hatchI envision a coloured dot which flys from the users interaction point to the notification bar when there is a notification :)00:32

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