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| marcoceppi | kurt_: pong | 00:59 |
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| marcoceppi | ZonkedZebra: still having issues with sharing code between hooks? | 01:00 |
| ZonkedZebra | took a break. settled on sourcing a file with common functions. Yay/Nay? | 01:01 |
| kurt_ | marcoceppi: are you familiar with the ceph deployment stuff on charms? | 01:02 |
| kurt_ | that is my next project | 01:02 |
| kurt_ | add ceph to openstack | 01:02 |
| marcoceppi | ZonkedZebra: that works fine, are you writing those in bash or another language? | 01:02 |
| ZonkedZebra | bash | 01:03 |
| marcoceppi | kurt_: I have pretty much very little experience. I've deployed ceph and ceph-osd as part of a demo openstack setup, but didn't dig very far | 01:03 |
| marcoceppi | kurt_: I'm happy to field any questions I can though | 01:03 |
| kurt_ | marcoceppi: ok. I'm just in the research stage. if you have any cliff notes or anything you wish to share short of jamespage's cephaloid thing, I'd be appreciative. | 01:04 |
| kurt_ | the RTFM stage if you will | 01:04 |
| marcoceppi | ZonkedZebra: cool, so you can't explicitly call relation-* commands out-of-band (IE, during hooks that aren't relation hooks). This is because Juju sets extra environment variables to make those tools work. Mainly JUJU_RELATION_ID. So if you wanted to call relation-get say during a config-changed hook, you can, but you need to record the JUJU_RELATION_ID somewhere and call `relation-get -r $JUJU_RELATION_ID <unit> <key,>` | 01:05 |
| ZonkedZebra | marcoceppi: Alright, thanks | 01:05 |
| ZonkedZebra | Is writing charms in other languages discouraged at all? | 01:06 |
| marcoceppi | ZonkedZebra: what I recommend instead, as that can get complicated, is during the relation-(joined,changed) hooks, when you get values you need write them to dot files in the $CHARM_DIR, for instance, the wordpress charm does with when it gets NFS data it puts it in a file in $CHARM_DIR then runs hooks/config-changed which checks for that file then sources it for the values http://bazaar.launchpad. | 01:07 |
| marcoceppi | net/~charmers/charms/precise/wordpress/trunk/view/head:/hooks/nfs-relation-changed | 01:07 |
| marcoceppi | ZonkedZebra: not at all, the beauty of charms is they can be written in any language. To my knowledge we have bash/dash, python, ruby, and chef charms. Someone tried writting a charm in php but I think they gave up | 01:07 |
| marcoceppi | Use whatever language you/people deploying the service are comfortable with | 01:08 |
| ZonkedZebra | Am I responsible for installing the required interpreter during the install hook? | 01:08 |
| marcoceppi | ZonkedZebra: at this time, yes | 01:08 |
| marcoceppi | ZonkedZebra: there's discussions of having pre-required packages described in the metadata.yaml file, but for the time being you'll need to use a language available on all ubuntu machines (pretty much python or bash) to set up your dependencies | 01:09 |
| ZonkedZebra | So what envs are possible with the install hook? (What is install on the base image) | 01:09 |
| ZonkedZebra | Alright. For the record I vote reps in metadata.yaml | 01:09 |
| ZonkedZebra | deps* | 01:09 |
| ZonkedZebra | I hope NSA monitoring can handle typos | 01:10 |
| marcoceppi | ZonkedZebra: I'm a little against that, personally, I'd rather see hooks/setup or something similar. A hook that is only run once, but the decision isn't up to me :) | 01:10 |
| ZonkedZebra | What is the best way to install something on all machines? I had to do a bit of hacking to get mosh running properly. | 01:11 |
| marcoceppi | ZonkedZebra: a subordinate would be one way | 01:11 |
| marcoceppi | ZonkedZebra: you mean within juju or just in general? | 01:12 |
| ZonkedZebra | In general. Built in would be cool. juju mosh unit/0. I like how that felt | 01:13 |
| ZonkedZebra | Where can I find the list of things that are set during the hooks, like CHARM_DIR and HOME? | 01:15 |
| ZonkedZebra | I guess I can just debug-hooks and dump it | 01:19 |
| marcoceppi | ZonkedZebra: debug-hooks is the way to go, it might be in the docs though | 01:19 |
| marcoceppi | ZonkedZebra: juju has plugins, so you could totally do a mosh plugin | 01:19 |
| ZonkedZebra | Where is the docs on the plugin system? | 01:20 |
| marcoceppi | ZonkedZebra: drafted on my computer, but they're pretty straight forward, you just put a file called juju-<plugin> in path | 01:20 |
| marcoceppi | ZonkedZebra: there's a juju-plugins project on LP that I started which will eventually pacakged a lot of common plugins together you could add it to | 01:21 |
| marcoceppi | ZonkedZebra: I really thought we had the environment variables documented :\ | 01:22 |
| ZonkedZebra | Nope :( | 01:22 |
| ZonkedZebra | a couple of them are, randomly :) | 01:22 |
| * marcoceppi makes notes to fix this | 01:22 | |
| ZonkedZebra | marcoceppi: is there a functioning example somewhere in the juju-plugins repo? | 01:27 |
| marcoceppi | ZonkedZebra: yeah, I wrote it in Python, so it's structured a little differently since I wanted to be able to test it like a python app | 01:28 |
| marcoceppi | ZonkedZebra: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~charmers/juju-plugins/trunk/view/head:/plugins/juju_test.py | 01:28 |
| marcoceppi | it's actually the worst example ever, because it's a really involved plugin | 01:29 |
| marcoceppi | but it's the only one I've written so far | 01:29 |
| ZonkedZebra | interesting, looked like part of the testing harness at first glance | 01:30 |
| marcoceppi | ZonkedZebra: it's seperate, it basically just runs all the files in tests/ | 01:30 |
| marcoceppi | the testing harness, amulet, was designed to be independent of the test plugin, so people arent' forced to use it for writing tests | 01:31 |
| ZonkedZebra | Yep, figured it out when I hit __name__ == '__main__' | 01:31 |
| * marcoceppi disappears for a while | 01:34 | |
| alexrockz | Hey guys! | 04:24 |
| alexrockz | Hi | 04:49 |
| alexrockz | How is everybody | 04:49 |
| alexrockz | I'm bored | 04:57 |
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| alexrockz | Hi guys | 06:10 |
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| marcoceppi | alexrockz: hello | 06:53 |
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| alexrockz | Hi everybody | 08:52 |
| alexrockz | Anyone like Ubuntu here? | 08:54 |
| alexrockz | 'cause i do | 08:55 |
| alexrockz | I used to have it on my Windows 7 laptop | 08:55 |
| alexrockz | Then i un-installed it 'cause it was taking up my memory | 08:55 |
| alexrockz | Didn't use it anymore | 08:55 |
| alexrockz | So i got a new laptop | 08:56 |
| alexrockz | It runs Windows 8 | 08:56 |
| alexrockz | I was hope for a big computer with 500 GB | 08:57 |
| alexrockz | (Giga-Bytes) | 08:57 |
| alexrockz | No comment huh? | 09:08 |
| alexrockz | ok | 09:08 |
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| Diegonat | hi?.. | 18:04 |
| Diegonat | i have this error while trying to use openstack caused by: the configured region "RegionOne" does not allow access to all required services, namely: compute, object-store | 18:04 |
| marcoceppi | Diegonat: does your user have access to compute and object-store? Can you launch instances from the dashboard? | 18:11 |
| Diegonat | yes i can | 18:29 |
| Diegonat | marcoceppi, sto usando | 18:29 |
| Diegonat | admin | 18:29 |
| Diegonat | fixed | 18:39 |
| Diegonat | no not really | 18:39 |
| paulczar_ | how do delete the environments cache of a charm that I'm developing? getting tired of doing an environment-destroy every time I change something | 18:40 |
| alexrockz | Hi everybody! | 18:48 |
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| _mup_ | Bug #1232547 was filed: When Trying to Deploy on ec2 I get "no instances found" <juju:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1232547> | 20:41 |
| AskUbuntu | Juju errors when trying to deploy to ec2 | http://askubuntu.com/q/351269 | 20:46 |
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