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pepeeinstala icedtea-plugin , yo uso ese y funciona00:00
pepeetienes que reiniciar el navegador luego de instalar...00:00
Ari-Yangpepee, I'm not asking that.... I'm asking when ubuntu 13.10 is officially released, will it have UVD support?00:01
pepeeah... you are asking about the FOSS radeon driver, right?00:03
pepeeI don't think so... but I have no idea00:04
Ari-Yangokies00:04
TJ-tj00:07
TJ-Hmm, helps to change focus before trying to log-in to VMs!00:07
TJ-Anyone else seeing "usb-modeswitch-data : Recommends: usb-modeswitch (>= 1.2.6) but 1.2.3+repack0-1ubuntu3 is to be installed" ?00:51
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pepeeTJ-, remove usb-modeswitch00:55
TJ-pepee: Not possible. It's part of the "ubuntu-usb" tasksel00:56
trismTJ-: do you have -proposed enabled? looks like that version of usb-modeswitch-data is in there00:56
pepeeTJ-, it seems that usb-modeswitch is not needed anymore... but I'm not sure00:57
TJ-I'm building in a chroot - I've tried it with and without -proposed enabled00:57
pepeethe thing is, it works if you remove it00:57
TJ-pepee: remove from where? it isn't installed00:57
pepeeapt-get purge usb-modeswitch00:58
pepeeoh..00:58
TJ-I think the repos might be a little out-of-sync temporarily, now the beta 2 freeze is over00:58
ice9how to get Cinnamon work on Ubuntu 13.10 with xmir01:01
ice9I can login to it but it only shows the desktop icon without any panel01:01
TJ-Ahhh. bug01:02
TJ-bug #119500501:03
ubottubug 1195005 in usb-modeswitch (Ubuntu) "usb-modeswitch (>= 1.2.6) recommended for usb-modeswitch-data in proposed" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119500501:03
Guest89200I just installed 13.10 beta 2...i have nvidia gt540m and intel graphics in my laptop(optimus)...cant seem to get it working04:52
Guest89200i installed nvidia 325.15 and rebooted....not running...its still running nouveau drivers04:53
Guest89200my graphics drivers dont show up under additional drivers either04:54
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thecameleoncan anyone help me get optimus working in 13.10 beta204:57
thecameleonanyone?05:00
max64do you recommend me to download ubuntu beta 2 or i wait till 17 october?07:29
pepeeit's already final beta07:31
max64pepee:so i can download beta 2 now?  no more buge i find?07:32
max64bugs*07:33
pepeewell, you may always find bugs...07:33
max64so you recommend me to wait the official release on 17 oct?07:33
pepeebut if you have newer hardware, I'd recommend installing 13.107:33
pepee*13.1007:33
max64i've core 2 due 2.1 GHz machine with 2 GB rams07:34
pepeewhat gpu?07:34
max64how can i check the gpu on terminal?07:34
pepeegpu's are usually the most problematic hardware..07:35
pepeelspci | grep VGA07:35
max64pepee:ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ lspci | grep VGA07:36
max6400:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)07:36
pepeewell, should be well supported in 13.04... but anyway, yeah, just install 13.10 :P07:37
max6413.4 works well on my machine07:38
max64sorry i have a question ,, if 13.10 downloaded now and i upgraded on 17 october .. will i redownload 980 mega bytes or just the updates?07:39
pepeejust updates07:42
pepeeyou are using 13.04 ATM?07:42
pepeeyou can just upgrade from your package manager07:42
max64i use 13.4 but i dont know what ATM means .. sorry i'm not good in english07:43
pepeeat this moment07:43
max64yes i use 13.4 now07:43
pepeealthough some repos may not work...07:43
pepeeok then... do you really need to upgrade right now?07:44
pepeeif you don't need it, just upgrade when 13.10 is officially released...07:44
max64i will need to upgrade 13.10 on 17 october07:44
max64but i need not to upgrade 13.407:45
pepeeI mean, if you have some problems or need specific, updated software, then upgrade... if not, just wait07:45
max64ok07:46
max64so i will wait two other weeks :)07:46
pepeemax64, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Saucy#Upgrading_from_older_versions07:46
max64i dont upgrade .. i alwayes download each version when appear online07:47
pepee^ that if you want to upgrade right now, otherwise, the system should warn you about a new version being available07:47
pepeeah k07:47
max64i just need to install 13.10 .. i needed to know is it equivallent if i downloaded ubuntu beta2 and then upgrade .. or to download official release on 17 october?07:48
pepeeif you install the beta2, you don't need to upgrade anything07:49
max64so i can consider downloading beta 2 today plus updating on 17 oct leads to no problem in security or crashes?07:50
alankilajust keep on apt-get dist-upgrading07:50
max64ok so i'm downloading 13.10 beta 2 now :)07:51
max64pepee:i'm realy grateful .. thank you ^_^07:51
pepeeyou are welcome07:51
max64ty07:52
alankilaI've even updated from 11.x and maybe earlier to 13.10. I just force the suckers to work and keep on repeating cycles of "apt-get -f install" and "dpkg --configure -a" until the stupid thing seems to finally get all packages installed07:54
alankilathen I use debfoster to clean the system of leftover packages to near-minimal state and then finally try to install the actual software I want07:54
alankilairritating, but seems to work07:54
alankilaI hate this supercomplex package management scheme and the fact everyone, nearly, runs the same set of basic packages and for some reason we must have 500 of them to install rather than just 107:55
pepeewell, not everyone has the same packages...07:57
pepeealso, if you had just 1 package for the base system, you would still have a BIG package, which in the end would be almost the same07:58
alankila...and I argue they should have07:58
pepeeas having 500 packages07:58
pepeenope, I'm probably running a different kernel than you do07:58
pepeeif we were using that gigantic package, there would be no easy way of doing it..07:59
alankilasure there is. You can easily install multiple kernels on debian even currently07:59
alankilait doesn't matter if one kernel image is provided by some base package and updates are layered as separate packages that just dump a bunch of files at /boot07:59
pepeethere is, I'm talking about the gigantic package you want us to have08:01
alankilaI guess I don't like packages very much. I think it stems from my earliest experiences of debian packaging where I installed the OS the first time and the official installer spent a lot of time installing packages which spit out warnings and errors. I asked if this is normal and everyone said "yep".08:05
alankilaand I regard the android-style update scheme as superior as it simply ships the entire system image at once and it's basically just untarred on top of the formatted system partition followed by a reboot.08:06
alankilaso I'd like to simplify updating linux and keeping it updated, and having ubuntu ship a large base system image would seem like easy way to make updates far more foolproof.08:07
pepeeah, I see08:08
alankilaand as I mentioned above, the current story with ubuntu updates is so poor that a lot of people just recommend outright reinstall. We have an updating scheme but it has a shelf life, it only works in well-defined circumstances, and imho for no good reason.08:08
pepeewell, they could just copy the whole ISO image to the disc and modify the partition table, heh08:09
alankilatrueish. If the ISO shipped a filesystem image, it could be dd'd and then extended08:09
alankilabut that's a bit too extreme, even I wouldn't recommend that.08:09
pepeeI used the hd-media method a couple times...08:09
RalliasIs it possible that bcache-tools will be shipped in 13.10 repositories or is that just a dream?08:22
pepeeI cannot see it in the repos... apt-cache shows nothing08:27
pepeeI gotta leave... bye08:27
bazhang!find bcache08:58
ubottuFound: libcache-cache-perl, libcache-fastmmap-perl, libcache-historical-perl, libcache-memcached-fast-perl, libcache-memcached-managed-perl08:58
Rallias:(09:05
yofel_it's not in the archive, but there was a PPA for bcache09:07
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BluesKaj'Morning folks10:58
penguin42Hey BK10:58
BluesKajhey penguin4211:04
axelm7morning, I am tring to install 13.10 server on an AMD x2, nvidia chipset, nvidia 6300 onboard video. I can't get past the first text screen after GRUB11:07
axelm713.04 desktop installed fine. 13.10 desktop installed fine too. for some reason 13.10 server doesn't even start to install11:08
axelm7sounds like a kernel panic, the keyboard locks up. numlock LED doesn't toggle11:09
penguin42have you tried the rescue/fallback etc option in grub?11:10
axelm7can I run the installer in rescue mode?11:11
penguin42oh hmm not sure11:12
axelm7rescue mode doesn't work either. It gets stuck at the first screen "Select a language" with English default. The system does not respond to the keystrokes11:13
penguin42axelm7: ok, that suggests if it got to select a language it got a bit further - tell me what machine are you using? also is it a wireless keyboard by any chance?11:14
axelm7Right before that language selection menu there is a tiny message in the middle of the screen that says "trying to enable the fram buffer"11:14
axelm7and then a small white progress bar appears at the bottom of the screen (text mode progress bar). then the language selection menu appears and the box locks up11:15
axelm7keyboard and mouse are USB and worked fine during 13.10 desktop install11:16
axelm7I used the same pendrive to run both desktop and server installers11:16
axelm7both created with Universal USB Installer11:17
penguin42ok, sorry not got many ideas; I know we've got someone on here whose keyboard hasn't worked for a few kernel versions (a wireless logitech) but I don't think he ever tracked that down to whether it was the machine or keyboard or what11:18
axelm7this is an old machine I had lying around running zoneminder CCTV system on Fedora. A new zm version came out recently and the recommended distro is Ubuntu11:19
axelm7so I figure that installing 13.10 made more sense than 13.0411:19
axelm7it's really strange that 13.10 desktop installs fine but not 13.10 server.11:20
penguin42axelm7: if it's hanging in text mode as well I'd probably start doing some more hairy debugging; things like passing  init=/bin/sh and seeing if you can get a  very early shell and see if there are any errors, maybe try some of the kernel options for weirder machines11:20
axelm7I'll just install 13.0411:21
axelm7when is 13.04 EOL?11:21
penguin42I'd go for 12.04 that's an LTS11:22
penguin42https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases  shows the EOL dates11:22
axelm713.04 eol is in 4 months. damn11:24
axelm7I've installed all kinds of distros on this box. first time I've had trouble running an installer11:25
penguin42it would be best to try and get to the bottom of why11:25
axelm7I really don't know how to do that11:32
axelm7I've tried removing vga=788 and quiet from the boot line11:33
axelm7the boot process seems to work fine and then it gets stuck at the first installer text menu11:34
axelm7I'll try wiping the hard drive11:35
axelm7well, something's wrong with the installation files on my USB drive11:37
axelm7ran the integrity test11:37
axelm7The ./pool/main/m/maas/python-maas-provisioningserver_1.4 bla bla file failed the md5 checksum verification11:38
axelm7the downloaded iso md5sum matches the published info from here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/MD5SUMS11:40
axelm7so Universal USB Installer is screwing up the files? strange...11:41
axelm7what's the recommended Windows tool to write the ISO to a USB drive?11:42
axelm7trying again, this time with Linux Live USB Creator11:47
penguin42axelm7: OK, it'll be interesting if that fixes it - the other possibility is you have some duff RAM, I've seen that show as package checksum errors before12:02
axelm7Similar problem now with Linux Live, expect that the integrity check reaches 99% and fails on a netboot pxe file, which is not relevant.12:10
axelm7tried with two different usb-SD adapter12:11
axelm7I know my microSD card is good.  been using it for all kind of stuff12:11
axelm7I'll try removing 2 of the 3 ram sticks12:12
axelm7removed 2 sticks, integrity check still fails on the same file pxelinux.cfg/default12:15
axelm7removed the two bttv PCI capture cards from the box and I still get integrity test failed on pxelinux.cfg/default12:21
penguin42axelm7: usb-SD adapters are often touchy; however the two other things I'd try are 1) A memtest   2) just dd the iso straight onto the SD card   dd if=my.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1024k (where X depends on the machine - get it right otherwise you might nuke your disk)12:22
axelm7I've installed all kinds of stuff with this same usb-sd adaper and the same sd card. Windows 8, 2008, centos, ubuntu, ESX, ps3 cfw, etc, never had a problem before. strange.12:25
penguin42anyway, I'm out for a while12:27
axelm7ok, now this is strange12:27
axelm7integrity test is failing on a file that's not even present on the iso file12:27
axelm7I've checked the md5sum of the ubuntu ISO on my windows laptop12:27
axelm7mounted the iso with daemon tools12:27
axelm7and /install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/pxelinux.cfg/default is not there12:28
axelm7seems like the file manifest one the installation disk is incorrect12:29
axelm7on*12:29
axelm7how is that even possible12:30
axelm7yup, md5sum.txt on the root of the installation ISO is incorrect12:32
axelm7this file does not exist 573bf62a1f14cdcef0e8299863547a5a  ./install/netboot/pxelinux.cfg/default12:32
LBoI'm using 13.10 for a month now. A couple of days, as part of an update indicator-network got installed. Now I have two network indicators12:34
LBoI think the ubuntu one and the gnome one12:35
LBoIs anyone else experiencing this?12:35
BluesKajLBo:  not here12:39
axelm7my conclusion is that saucy-server-amd64.iso posted http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/  is buggy12:41
axelm7md5sum.txt in the root folder references a file that is not present on the disk12:42
LBoBluesKaj: do you have indicator-network installed?12:44
BluesKajLBo:  the NM icon , yes12:44
BluesKajI haven't used NM in yrs except for wifi , but I need it for my vpn service12:45
LBoOk, thanks12:46
LBoI'm just going to purge it and see what happens12:46
BluesKajperhaps you just have 2 differnt widgets , but only one network manager , LBo12:46
BluesKajlb try to remove one of the widgets first12:47
BluesKajLBo: ^12:47
LBoRemoving indicator-network worked12:48
BluesKajok , good12:48
LBoI now only have the original gnome nm icon thingy12:48
BluesKajwell,  the next reboot will "tell the tale "12:49
BluesKajer by widgets I mean icons in the panel ...on kde here12:49
kerloiHello there.I'm using the last ubuntu 13.10 beta and I'm facing three major problems. The first one and the most important is that my ethernet chip is not working. It is recognized by lspci command (broadcom netxtreme BCM57786) but I don't have any eth0 interface. I saw this bug with BCM57766 "http://askubuntu.com/questions/288454/ubuntu-13-04-on-mac-mini-6-2-ethernet-port-broadcom-netxtreme-bcm57766-not-detec". The solution seems benign if y12:50
kerloiou're able to rebuild the kernel (which I'm not able to do). Moreover I'm not sure it is the exact same problem ...12:50
BluesKajkerloi:  run, sudo dhclient eth0 , for starters12:52
kerloiBluefoxicy, Well it answer "Cannot find device eth0" ...12:56
kerloiBluesKaj, (sry) Well it answer "Cannot find device eth0" ...12:56
LBoAnd lsmod | grep tg3?13:00
kerloiLBo, It return nothing13:00
LBook13:00
LBosudo modprobe tg3?13:01
LBoWithout the ? ofcourse13:01
kerloiLBo, Wel now it's loaded.  "lsmod | grep tg3" return "tg3 162230 0" and "ptp 18580 1 tg3"13:04
LBoand what does ifconfig show now?13:05
kerloiStill no eth0 interface13:05
LBoDoes dmesg show anything useful?13:05
kerloiNo I can't see anything from the lines where my file system is mounted.13:08
kerloinothing about ethernet or tg3 at least13:09
LBoSorry, I'm out of ideas then :(13:09
kerloiTwo lines about wlan0 which I suppose is working though I don't have a wifi access point nearby13:09
BluesKajok , try , sudo dhclient eth0 , now kerloi13:11
kerloiBluesKaj, Same answer13:11
BluesKajbummer13:11
BluesKajLBo:  is tg3 some generic BCM driver ?13:12
LBoBluesKaj: not generic but for the BCM57766 I believe13:14
LBoOnly thing I can think of is that the firmware for the BCM57766 isn't inserted / loaded13:14
LBoBut usually dmesg gives you a heads up if that's the case13:15
BluesKajok , well if you loaded the tg3 module successfully , then maybe a reboot is in order , kerloi13:15
BluesKajsuccesful = no erro output after the modprobe command13:16
kerloiI can tell you about the twe other problems I have :) The shutdown is not working. It fail at "Killing all remaining processes" which doesn't stop the shut down but at the and with the message "reboot: Power down" nothing happen and I have to press the power button manualy ...13:16
kerloiBluesKaj, Yeah no errors. I'm rebooting13:17
BluesKajctrl+alt + delete?13:17
kerloiBluesKaj, Maybe I should have added the modprobe in a init level because now it's not loaded anymore13:20
kerloiWell according to "http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/tg3.c" tg3 seems the correct driver for BCM 57786 (see line 15335) so it should be started13:25
kerloiAnd it's not starting automatically13:25
bekkskerloi: the modprobe it.13:25
kerloibekks, I can do it manually but the interface doesn't shows up even after that ...13:26
bekksHow do you check the existance of the interface after modprobing?13:27
kerloibekks, It doesn't shows up with ifconfig13:27
kerloiand "sudo dhclient eth0" says no interface eth013:27
bekkskerloi: Then use ifconfig -a to look for the interface.13:27
kerloibekks, I have "lo" and "wlan0" that's it13:28
bekksthen take look at dmesg what happened while modprobing the module.13:29
kerloiWell I have three lines which I suppose corrspond to the modprobe action. It's talking about pps_core and ptp clock. No error message13:30
bekksthen pastebin the entire output of dmesg.13:30
bekksalong with lsmod; lsb_release -a; uname -a; lspci -k; please13:31
kerloido you realy need the entire dmesg output or only after the end of boot ?13:39
bekksThe entire output of all the commands.13:39
kerloibekks, http://pastebin.com/h0u2EnKx13:45
bekkstg3 is not in use for your network device. Its not the correct driver for that specific device.13:50
kerloibekks, You mean I need another driver13:56
kerloiHow can I check a module version ?14:20
BluesKajaccording to most of the info on ubuntu related BCM issues the right driver is tg3 , it needs a patch according to most posts on the internet , like this : http://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg225552.html,  kerloi14:22
kerloiBluesKaj, The patch you gave me add the BCM57766 and not 57786 do you think I can do the same with 57786 ?14:26
kerloiI suppose I will have to rebuild my kernel ...14:26
BluesKajno kerloi just the the driver module14:27
BluesKajkerloi:  and the problem doesn't seem to be the drivers ,  the chip lacks an entry in the PCI device table.14:28
kerloiBluesKaj, Yep but the missing entry is in the driver "drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/tg3."14:29
kerloiSo I will have to learn how to build a module in ubuntu :) meaning how to get the sources and a working buil chain and how to get all of that without an internet connection :)14:30
BluesKajthere should be a method to apply the patch14:30
kerloiI just have the computer I'm using right now running wiondows xp14:31
kerloiIs there any way to make the apt-get command list all the needed packets in order to download them ?14:32
BluesKajdunno ,that's beyond my scope , ususlly the patchesd are packaged like an app and autmatically apply to whatever app/driver it needs to apply to.14:34
kerloiBluesKaj, Do you think I should fill a bug report with that ?14:36
BluesKajwhynot there doesn't seem to be much action on the previous related bug in launchpad14:37
bekkskerloi: You need to learn how a pci id device table is related to the driver ;)14:37
kerloibekks, Yep I confirm I have no idea.14:38
bekkskerloi: The most efficient way is to contact the maintainer of that module (kernel developer) and provide him with the necessary information.14:38
kerloibekks, But it will take weeks to be corrceted I suppose and until then I cannot use my computer ... Well, how can I contact these developpers ?14:42
bekkskerloi: Correct. Its nothing to be done in a few minutes unless you do know very well what you are doing there.14:42
bekkskerloi: In the file you mentioned you will find a comment stating the maintainer.14:42
kerloiThe patch seems pretty trivial. It's just a matter of adding an entry in a device list14:43
kerloiok14:43
BluesKaji hope it's that simple , kerloi14:44
kerloiI hope too.14:44
kerloiI confirm I have the latest sources and the patch you mentionned before has been included, I can find several lines about the BCM57786 in the driver but no entry  in the DEFINE_PCI_DEVICE_TABLE15:08
kerloiSo  I suppose the driver should work but the pci entry is missing15:08
kerloiso frustrating15:08
bekksSo the pci entry has to be added, most likely by the dev.15:09
kerloiYou mean that adding it in the tg3.c file is not enought15:09
bekksCorrect.15:09
kerloiThe broadcom corporation is the developper of this file ...15:10
bekkskerloi: Thats why I told you to contact the maintainer :)15:13
bekksNot the developer - most likely the maintainer is a kernel developer, but for 110% it is not the Broadcom Corporation.15:13
bekksMODULE_AUTHOR("David S. Miller (davem@redhat.com) and Jeff Garzik (jgarzik@pobox.com)");15:14
bekksI'd suggest to contact David or Jeff.15:14
kerloiok thx15:15
kerloiWell can I require your help for another problem :) After the installation I only have a grub command line not a grub menu. I have to start linux manually.15:29
bekks!grub2 | kerloi15:29
ubottukerloi: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub215:29
kerloibekks, thx15:33
pepeehi. how could I know if a patch will be merged? I'm waiting for this to be merged:  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60182#c3319:48
ubottuFreedesktop bug 60182 in DRM/Radeon "X.Org Server terminate when I close video player" [Critical,Resolved: fixed]19:48
pepeeit would help anyone using AMD APUs19:48
penguin42pepee: Do you know if there is an Ubuntu launchpad bug for it19:59
pepeepenguin42, no idea, I searched for it a bit, but I couldn't find anything20:00
penguin42pepee: OK, then file an ubuntu bug for it and add that as a related bug20:01
pepeethe thing is, I want to know if this will be merged anyway, even if it's not reported20:01
penguin42pepee: I don't know, you could try asking in #ubuntu-x but the best way to track it is to put the bug in and see if you can get a response20:02
pepeeok, thanks penguin4220:02
penguin42pepee: Mention the bug number in here when you report it20:02
pepeedo I have to use ubuntu-bug? I'm using a custom build right now...20:04
penguin42pepee: Hmm it'll be a bit difficult to convince the maintainers to look unless you do; you can do a mnaul report via launchpad but it won't attach all the debug that ubuntu-bug attaches which the maintainers normally want20:06
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ikoniapepee: a custom build of what ?20:40
pepeethe package20:41
pepeeI applied the patch manually and rebuilt it20:41
ikoniaso why would you report a bug to ubuntu about your own custom build of a package ?20:42
ikoniaor am I missing the actual question/issue20:42
pepeeyes, you are missing the issue :P20:42
pepeeit's a bug that has been fixed a couple days ago20:43
ikoniaok ?20:43
ikonia(apologies if I'm missing the point here)20:43
pepeeso I applied the patch manually because the bug is annoying and because I wanted to help20:44
ikonia.....ok ?20:44
pepeethe thing is, I dunno if this would have been fixed anyway20:44
ikoniawhat do you mean ?20:46
ikoniasorry, you're not making sense20:46
ikoniawhat has your patch / build got to do with the ubuntu bug20:47
Jettis 20:47
pepeeby "custom" I meant "patched"20:47
ikoniaok what has your patched build got to do with the ubuntu bug20:47
pepeealso, a big old20:47
pepeecurrent version is 1:7.2.0-0ubuntu9, previous is 1:7.2.0-0ubuntu620:48
ikoniaso ?20:48
pepeeI'm using 1:7.2.0-0ubuntu6 + patch20:48
ikoniawhat information do you want ?20:48
pepeewhich would be what ubuntu-bug would have reported20:48
pepeewhich I don't know if it would have been dismissed for being 'old'20:49
ikoniawhat information do you actually want ?20:49
pepeenothing, I already got it, thanks...20:50
penguin42ikonia: He's got a bug and found the upstream fix and wants to know if the Ubuntu package will have the fix, he's currently running a hand built package he's applied the fix to20:52
ikoniapenguin42: wow - a simple explination20:53
penguin42ikonia: I got that from what he said20:53
pepeethat's it, thanks penguin42 :P20:53
ikoniaI think I missed the start of the conversation20:53
ikoniathat information should be listed in the bug fix notes20:54
penguin42ikonia: Well he hasn't found an Ubuntu bug for it, I was suggesting he filed one20:54
pepeepenguin42, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/123255721:05
ubottuUbuntu bug 1232557 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "X.Org Server terminates when I close video player or run glxgears" [Undecided,New]21:05
pepeeshould I add/edit something?21:06
bekkspepee: if you have additional information.21:06
trismany thoughts on disabling the mouse battery in indicator-power? (or at least moving it out of the panel so I can see the useful laptop battery info)21:08
pepeethanks people21:15
trismahh just had to unplug the power cord21:23
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Smedleshi all - just updated my ubuntu 13.10 system and can't logon as normal user22:45
Smedlesit used to autologon, now is coming up with a logon screen - when i enter password it returns to the logon screen22:45
Smedlesusing a guest account now so I can logon22:45
Smedlesany ideas?22:45
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pepeeSmedles, can you send Xorg logs to the pastebin?22:51
pepeeSmedles, my guess is that X is crashing22:51
Smedlespepee: Xorg.0.log or Xorg.1.log or both?22:52
pepeetry pasting both22:52
pepeeuse pastebinit...22:52
Smedlesthat package isn't installed and as I'm guuest I can't sudo to install :/22:53
pepeecan you switch to tty?22:54
Smedleshttp://pastebin.com/KW655mrx22:54
Smedleshttp://pastebin.com/27W6wwn622:54
Smedlesgedit copy/paste works22:54
pepeeI remember there was a similar bug...22:56
pepeehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/316778/ubuntu-13-04-cant-login-to-unity-keep-going-back-to-login-screen-with-all-us22:56
pepeeSmedles, http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop22:57
pepeetry this one  http://askubuntu.com/a/26585822:57
Smedlesthanks - few ideas there22:58
pepeejust google: lightdm cannot log in guest22:59
Smedlespepee: renamed .Xauthority to something else and i'm back now :)23:03
pepeecool23:03
pepeealthough IIRC you will have the same problem again...23:03
pepeedunno how to solve it...23:03
Smedlespepee: at least I know how to workaround it now :)23:04
Smedlesok, time to walk the dog23:05
* penguin42 hands Smedles a yoyo23:06
ice9I enabled xmir, how to revert back to xorg only?23:16
penguin42how did you enable it?23:18
ice9penguin42, I don't remember actually, just followed a tutorial23:18
penguin42ah, always good to know how you did something to be able to undo it!23:19
ice9my problem is that Cinnamon is not working correctly23:19
penguin42tbh I've not tried XMir so don't know much about it, but I thought it's supposed to be able to work as a normal X server, so I think that's a bug, but maybe ask some of the ubuntu-x guys23:22
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