[00:01] <deckard_> hello. can someone please tell me where i can read about updates i downloaded for ubuntu?
[00:02] <TJ-> deckard_: You mean see what was installed? look at the logs in /var/log/apt/
[00:02] <deckard_> is that easy to understand for novice?
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> like a changes-log ?
[00:02] <vlt> deckard_: `aptitude changelog`
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[00:03] <deckard_> yes like a change log i guess, i just want to see what is new
[00:03] <deckard_> ty all
[00:11] <foxerr> hello, i'm using GNOME shell and i set the GTK+ theme to Adwaita (which is the default), but i believe the bottom bar colors don't look right in my computer. image here: http://i.imgur.com/2Dc9dN0.png
[00:17] <MangaKaDenza> SUPD DAWGS
[00:17] <MangaKaDenza> I have a tiny problem
[00:17] <MangaKaDenza> I want to play this game
[00:17] <deego> y0 MangaKaDenza
[00:17] <MangaKaDenza> mabinogi
[00:18] <MangaKaDenza> and I have wine installed
[00:18] <MangaKaDenza> but it don't work
[00:20] <MangaKaDenza> ...
[00:20] <MangaKaDenza> hello?
[00:20] <MangaKaDenza> anyone?
[00:21] <daftykins> !wine | MangaKaDenza
[00:23] <MangaKaDenza> ...not what I was looking for
[00:24] <daftykins> MangaKaDenza: it highlights you're in the wrong channel. BYE!
[00:31] <Territoriojoven> What can I do to improve this? http://i.imgur.com/sS2jUi7.png
[00:39] <Territoriojoven> Territoriojoven | What can I do to improve      │ aaas
[00:39] <Territoriojoven>                          | this? http://i.imgur.com/sS2j │ aaearon
[00:39] <Territoriojoven> wot
[00:46] <Marlenee> any CLI search google or bing tools search
[00:53] <daftykins> Marlenee: use lynx
[00:54] <gmachine_24> Greetings. Can I add a line to /etc/fstab so an external USB hard drive will mount to the same place every time I boot the computer? I created the mount point, etc., and have the UUID for the drive but adding a standard line to /etc/fstab doesn't seem to work.
[00:55] <jrib> gmachine_24: just set a label for it and it will get mounted to /media/LABEL
[00:55] <jrib> !label | gmachine_24
[00:56] <gmachine_24> jrib: merci
[00:56] <Marlenee> daftykins : i need advanced tool for google CLI search
[00:56] <GreenyZA> hey guys
[00:56] <daftykins> Marlenee: you come back in here so often with the weirdest requests :(
[00:57] <GreenyZA> hahaha
[00:57] <Marlenee> daftykins : :D its not wierd it just Tool for search
[00:57] <Territoriojoven> what can I do to improve this?                          | Ui7.png
[00:57] <daftykins> Territoriojoven: stop repeating
[00:58] <kxtwo> anyone know what would cause a broken pipe issue when trying to tar my home directory?
[00:58] <Territoriojoven> daftykins: no
[00:58] <daftykins> Territoriojoven: do or get banned :)
[00:58] <Territoriojoven> wow
[00:58] <Territoriojoven> such community
[00:58] <Territoriojoven> wow
[00:58] <Territoriojoven> do it.
[00:58] <FloodBot1> Territoriojoven: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:58] <Territoriojoven> i think i was already banned anyways
[00:59] <daftykins> figures, you seem unpleasant
[00:59] <TJ-> kxtwo: out of space?
[00:59] <kxtwo> doubtful
[01:00] <TJ-> kxtwo: Are you trying to write the output of tar into the directory (or below it)
[01:00] <kxtwo> it is on my old schools system I cd .. back to the home directory then try and tar kxtwo
[01:01] <kxtwo> it made it about a third of the way
[01:01] <kxtwo> its 700 megs worth of stuff I just want to bring to my personal system for future reference
[01:03] <kxtwo> I did just find out what my largest file was though and its .mozilla?  665M.  ANy idea why?
[01:03] <daftykins> cache probably
[01:03] <daftykins> du inside it
[01:04] <kxtwo> well the cache is 606 megs lol
[01:05] <kxtwo> 606M	Cache/
[01:05] <kxtwo> lab46:~/.mozilla/firefox/86z2rgq9.default$
[01:05] <kxtwo> not sure how that happened lol
[01:07] <jboii> hi
[01:08] <jboii> is there a tv app that is free , so i can see sports & other channels ?
[01:10] <redwarriors25> how to fix initramfs of ubuntu 10.04
[01:16] <tkeith_> How can I see why a package was installed (what depended on it)?
[01:18] <Znoosey> tkeith_: I believe you are looking for: apt-rdepends -reverse <packagename>
[01:27] <kxtwo> ok is there anyway to get tar to ignore a file or directory?  for permission purposes I am trying to create the archive inside the directory im archving: tar -zcvf kkrauss1/lab46-kkrauss1.tar.gz kkrauss1/
[01:28] <kxtwo> im assuming it is the cause of this error: kkrauss1/.xsession-errors
[01:28] <kxtwo> tar: kkrauss1: file changed as we read it
[01:28] <TJ-> kxtwo: "man tar"
[01:29] <TJ-> kxtwo: See "--exclude=" although you'd be better off creating it in /tmp/
[01:30] <kxtwo> rah
[01:30] <kxtwo> much better idea thanks
[01:31] <kxtwo> I finally see a good rason for tmp lol
[01:35] <u3> get more help on 512mpx on youtube
[01:36] <Pernicious-Taint> Is there a doctor in the house?
[01:36] <kamil> Народ, есть кто?
[01:42] <kamil> hello, people!
[01:42] <linuxuz3r> hi kamil
[01:43] <kamil> How join  conference in jabber? Somewhere know?
[01:43] <kamil> I trying join, but i see only error =(
[01:53] <hanner> hi, i am trying to eliminate stereo upmix, is anyone available for help? :)
[01:53] <juniour> hi
[01:53] <dr_willis> hmm
[02:12] <foxer> hello, what command-line browser is there for ubuntu?
[02:13] <ghozt> lynx?
[02:13] <foxer> pangolin
[02:13] <Hodapp> elinks, w3m
[02:13] <Guest74303> elinks
[02:13] <foxer> ok, thans
[02:27] <dablya> Hello. I just got a new laptop ASUS x501a and the only way I could get it to dual boot ubuntu was to disable secure boot. I had to run boot-repair from ubuntu in order to get it to boot into windows. I would like to re-enable secure boot now that dual boot works, but when i do, I get security errors.  Is there anything I can do, or is this just not something that is currently supported?
[02:31] <baegle> my resolv.conf is stuck using DNS servers from another network. I've refreshed DHCP but resolv.conf hasn't adopted the DNS settings from the new network. How do I force it?
[02:35] <baegle> I've even removed the file, and network manager recreates it with DNS servers from a network I'm no longer connected to. How the heck do I fix that?
[02:36] <baegle> I've restarted network-manager to no avail
[02:37] <mrrcp> baegle: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-clearflush-dns-cache-in-ubuntu.html
[02:37] <baegle> I can't install nscd because I can't resolve repository hostnames
[02:37] <mrrcp> ah
[02:37]  * baegle wah wah
[02:38] <baegle> besides, that's the DNS cache, not the resolv.conf
[02:38] <mrrcp> sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean restart
[02:39] <mrrcp> then sudo /etc/init.d/nscd restart
[02:39] <mrrcp> and also sudo /etc/init.d/dnsmasq restart
[02:40] <mrrcp> that work for ya?
[02:40] <baegle> the 1st one, no
[02:41] <baegle> I don't have nscd nor dnsmasq
[02:41] <baegle> so neither of those can be run
[02:42] <baegle> and I restarted networking
[02:42] <baegle> and network-manager crashed
[02:42] <mrrcp> so the first option did not work
[02:42] <baegle> and now it can't be started
[02:42] <mrrcp> sounds like you have your settings messed up
[02:42] <baegle> I tell ya, network-manager has been a PITA ever since it was conceived
[02:42] <baegle> My settings are stock
[02:43] <mrrcp> i find it funny that settings are stock and install is stock yet dns is broke
[02:43] <mrrcp> u didnt change anything?
[02:43] <baegle> I haven't done anything
[02:43] <dablya> oh and the reason i disabled secure boot in the first place is because i was getting a blank screen after selecting "install ubuntu"
[02:44] <mrrcp> dablya: you dont need secure boot man
[02:44] <baegle> Yesterday, I went to the office came home, DNS changed no problem between the networks
[02:44] <mrrcp> hmm
[02:44] <baegle> today, I'm suddenly locked on the dns settings of the office
[02:44] <mrrcp> ah
[02:44] <mrrcp> on your lappy?
[02:44] <baegle> only thing that would have changed was some of the updates that came in yesterday
[02:44] <baegle> yes on my lappy
[02:44] <mrrcp> wifi?
[02:45] <mrrcp> or eth0
[02:45] <dablya> mrrcp: so, it's really just a gimmik for microsoft to try and lock out competition?
[02:45] <baegle> wifi at home, cat5 at the office
[02:45] <baegle> but again, now that I've restarted networking, the system is FUBAR
[02:45] <mrrcp> its a pain in the ass is what it is
[02:45] <mrrcp> lol
[02:45] <mrrcp> i hate secure boot
[02:45] <baegle> which has pretty much been the case ever since I installed Ubuntu
[02:45] <mrrcp> and i couldnt help you to fix it
[02:45] <baegle> so I'm thinking I'll just reboot
[02:46] <baegle> and kill ubuntu before the holidays
[02:46] <mrrcp> baegle: have you ifdown?
[02:46] <baegle> and switch back to a stable OS
[02:46] <baegle> it doesn't matter, ifdown won't work
[02:46] <baegle> because networking is fubar
[02:46] <mrrcp> baegle: are you using 12.04?
[02:46] <mrrcp> or 13+
[02:47] <baegle> 13.04
[02:48] <mrrcp> ahhhhh
[02:48] <mrrcp> ok try sudo dhclient -r
[02:48] <baegle> all of my interfaces are down
[02:48] <baegle> because the networking service and network-manager have crashed
[02:49] <baegle> It's quite literally fubar
[02:49] <mrrcp> just a FYI 13.04 is not the most stable
[02:49] <mrrcp> its going to have issues like this
[02:49] <baegle> If I wanted to stay on LTS
[02:49] <baegle> I would just stick to an actually stable OS
[02:49] <baegle> and no, it shouldn't have an unrecoverable network service crash
[02:49] <baegle> for 6 months
[02:50] <mrrcp> well ... im not a ubuntu expert just another user trying to help a user
[02:50] <baegle> but I'm not hear to argue about expectations of stability
[02:50] <baegle> I find it amazing how silent a room with 1600 people is
[02:50] <mrrcp> i was just trying to help.. im out of options
[02:50] <mrrcp> its friday
[02:50] <baegle> I know
[02:50] <Ari-Yang> !patient | baegle
[02:50] <Ari-Yang> :x
[02:50] <mrrcp> Reboot
[02:50] <vine> Fringe is a lot like the xfiles
[02:50] <baegle> Yeah, and reinstall, I know
[03:13] <MangaKaDenza> Help!
[03:13] <MangaKaDenza> again
[03:13] <MangaKaDenza> I'm trying to play TF2
[03:13] <MangaKaDenza> but an error keeps popping up
[03:14] <MangaKaDenza> saying I need some OpenGL stuff
[03:19] <Guest773> hi
[03:27] <JesseH> Hello friends, a buddy of mine says that Ubuntu is for beginners, and all of its users do not know about Linux.
[03:28] <JesseH> What is something I could tell my friend, to save him from future scorn?
[03:28] <luke_> hello all
[03:28] <xangua> !ot | JesseH
[03:28] <luke_> I have a big problem trying to boot ubuntu in a windows 8 environment
[03:28] <JesseH> Oh lord, forgot. Sorry about that
[03:29] <luke_> HP notebook 17, i5-3230 quad, 12GB RAM
[03:29] <luke_> pre-installed windows 8, trying to dual boot Ubuntu 12.04 or 13.04 from GRUB with no luck yet
[03:30] <luke_> It goes to  a black screen, however one time, I heard the trademark ubuntu sound, and connected another computer and I saw the GUI on it, but not on my laptop
[03:32] <XDS2010_> is anyone around that could help proof read 2 paragraphs really quick on a comment for ubuntu edge ?
[03:33] <tylertwo> luke_: what do you mean you "connected another computer"?
[03:33] <XDS2010_> :-/
[03:33] <tylertwo> XDS2010_: proof read grammar or content?
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> XDS2010_:  ther is the offtopic channel and the edge channel
[03:33] <XDS2010_> grammar
[03:34] <XDS2010_> its like 4 sentences long
[03:34] <tylertwo> XDS2010_: i can take a look
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> you should upper case EvErY OtHeR letter. so you look leet. ;)
[03:34] <XDS2010_> tylertwo:  sent. just need to know if i made any spelling mistakes as its been a long day
[03:35] <ghozt>  I kinda of messed up. How can I delete this symbolic link: lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root     9 Sep 27 21:13 tools -> LFS/tools
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> rm tools    i belive ghozt
[03:35] <ghozt> still showing up :X
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> is that a file or a directory>
[03:36] <ghozt> um I'm not quite sure lol
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> ln -s bar foo
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> ln -s bar foo
[03:37] <Dr_Willis>  foo -> bar
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> rm foo
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> worked here
[03:38] <XDS2010_> is there a channel dedicated to ubuntu edge or future mobile devices/applications ?
[03:38] <luke_> tylertwo : another monitor
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> !edge
[03:39] <luke_> but in general It is really proving to be hard to get any distro on my machine in UEFI. This is really killing me
[03:39] <luke_> I need linux, and Ubuntu
[03:39] <luke_> help
[03:42] <CarlFK> ghozt: rm should give you an error if it doesn't work
[03:42] <tylertwo> luke_: So everything worked fine when you had that other monitor connected?
[03:43] <Alice-99> I am trying to change my MAC address of ppp0....but it doesn't  appears in the list of macchanger-gtk(Network is turned off) How can I fix it ?
[03:43] <ghozt> rm: cannot remove `tools': No such file or directory
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> ghozt: so its gone? Check with ls   ;)
[03:44] <ghozt> still exists
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> still exists where/how?
[03:44] <ghozt> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root     9 Sep 27 21:13 tools -> LFS/tools
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> ls -l tools   shows what
[03:44] <ghozt> no idea :/
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> its owned by root you notice?
[03:45] <ghozt> yea
[03:45] <Alice-99> hello
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> so you have to use sudo to remove/change it
[03:45] <ghozt> yeah. I am
[03:45] <ghozt> ls: cannot access tools: No such file or directory
[03:46] <ghozt> it shows up in ls -l /
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> you just said ls showed. it.. then dident. ?     what commands are you using eactly
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> a pastebin of the whole bash session may help also.
[03:47] <ghozt> ls -l /
[03:47] <B3eF> Whassup
[03:47] <ghozt> is where it is showing up
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> ghozt:  and your rm command was what?
[03:48] <ghozt> sudo rm tools
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> ghozt:  use the right path....
[03:48] <CarlFK> ghozt: do the ls and rm, cut/paste that to to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> its notin the current directory aparently
[03:48] <CarlFK> oh.. ls... /  got it.
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> cd /
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> rm tools
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> ls tools
[03:50] <ghozt> sigh I am retarded
[03:50] <ghozt> thanks Dr_Willis
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[03:52] <Guest21089> fgd
[03:55] <ghost-hacker> :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)
[03:58] <crocket> How do I integrate thunderbird/lightning into ubuntu unity?
[04:01] <Vivekananda> hello everyone I am trying to install oursql on ubuntu
[04:01] <Vivekananda> I get this error
[04:01] <Vivekananda> copying build/lib.linux-i686-2.7/oursql.so -> /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages
[04:01] <Vivekananda> error: /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oursql.so: Permission denied
[04:01] <Vivekananda> what should I do ? I dont wish to change permissions of the system files
 : no
[04:03] <luke_> not at all
[04:03] <luke_> I could not see what I needed to see to install the hard drive
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> Vivekananda:  exactly how are you installing it?
[04:04] <Vivekananda> Dr_Willis: here is the output ---
[04:06] <Vivekananda> https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/6738239
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> [ varun: $~ ]$ pip install oursql
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> dont you need sudo if itsd going to write to system directories?
[04:08] <Vivekananda> lol I am dumb
[04:08] <Vivekananda> sorrry I forgot to use that
[04:09] <Vivekananda> :)
[04:09] <Vivekananda> yes it works
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> thats why i asked for the command - not a paste of e erything ;)
[04:23] <Gazza>  /bye
[04:27] <icedtea> I'm making a configure script whats the best way to tell if upstart is running verses old system v scripts?
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> upstart has a way where it emulates the old sysv stuff i belive. so sysv scripts should work also.
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> you mean to has how to tell if the system  is uising Upstart or SysV?
[04:28] <icedtea> Dr_Willis: correct
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> if its ubuntu - its using upstart ;)
[04:29] <icedtea> its a configure script that will run on many systems, fedora, centos, debian, ubuntu, etc. etc.
[04:29] <icedtea> I know I can check for the existence of /etc/init and /sbin/initctl
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> use lsb_release perhaps to check what disrto it is?
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> thats how most config tools work from what ive seen
[04:33] <icedtea> I could take that route
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> there may be some 'posix'  perfered way ;)
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> did i spell that right ;)
[04:37] <Fooguate> Come join us we are doing a HackerSpace Hangout https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/2547fa565b7ebd2d098e4335e11c98bca430cb0e
[04:39] <B3eF> Whats up guys
[04:40] <dharmaturtle> I'm getting a "No such file or directory" for a random file when I type "ls" into the console http://i.imgur.com/BFeMNFc.png
[04:40] <kassy> I am bigginer ubuntu
[04:40] <dharmaturtle> ^C is to stop the ~80k files from filling the screen. Any ideas what's going on?
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> ls *    see if its there perhaps?
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> heh.
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> 80k files.
[04:40] <dharmaturtle> -bash: /bin/ls: Argument list too long
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> yep with * that makes sence
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> tab cmpletion. ;) but thatg may break with 80k files
[04:41] <kassy> bonjour je suis de tokyo
[04:42] <dharmaturtle> Well,  I can't open the file with "less", nor can I "rm" it.
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> ls  Iran*      perhaps
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> are , allowed in file names? could be thats an issue
[04:43] <Impossible> how do i install gtk dependencies
[04:43] <dharmaturtle> all the files have a , in them :(
[04:43] <Impossible> i cant ./configure the new gtk
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> does ls Iran* show it?
[04:44] <kassy> je cherces une guys qui de france
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> !fr
[04:45] <kassy> Excusez-moi
[04:46] <icedtea> Puis-je avoir des frites françaises
[04:47] <dharmaturtle> Yes, I see it with Iran* as seen here: http://imgur.com/BPlVWi8
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> its easier to read text pastes not image pastes of a few lines of text. ;)
[04:47] <omgeek> Hey all
[04:47] <dharmaturtle> x_x yeah I could do that
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> single quotes around the file name should work in most cases dharmaturtle
[04:47] <omgeek> Anything new
[04:48] <omgeek>  Some good news
[04:48] <omgeek> I come back after a long time
[04:48] <dharmaturtle> when I do "Iran, 12*" it gives ls: cannot access Iran, 12*: No such file or directory
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> qoteing * means its looking for theat exact file . ;) with a * in thename
[04:49] <omgeek> What is iran its a country name
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> dharmaturtle: tab completion can escape the fancy characters  i recall.
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> ls Iran<tab>
[04:50] <Guest89200> I just installed 13.10 beta 2...i have nvidia gt540m and intel graphics in my laptop(optimus)...cant seem to get it working
[04:50] <omgeek> Yeah basic of linux is going on
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> Guest89200:  see #ubuntu+1 for 13.10
[04:51] <Guest89200> ok...thanks
[04:51] <omgeek> My Ubuntu 12.04 Lts is not working
[04:51] <omgeek> Its graphical
[04:52] <omgeek> Interface
[04:52] <omgeek> Is not working
[04:52] <omgeek> I try to access right now using recovery mode only
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> tell the channel exactly what it is doing when you boot up and try to log in.
[04:53] <omgeek> So any help how my GUI can be resumed back
[04:53] <crocket> Does anyone know how to integrate thunderbird/lightning into ubuntu calendar?
[04:53] <omgeek> Okay I have dell machine ..when I start grub loader comes
[04:54] <omgeek> When go to the menu it go for Ubuntu
[04:54] <omgeek> Its gui not coming
[04:54] <kassy> Au revoir
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> what  menu? You mean the lightgm login screen?
[04:54] <omgeek> No that doesn't come
[04:55] <omgeek> Only 5 dots
[04:55] <omgeek> That usually comes and blink
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> and has ths sytem ever worked?
[04:55] <omgeek> Before login screen
[04:55] <omgeek> Yes
[04:55] <omgeek> I working it since last 1 year
[04:55] <omgeek> Using recovery mode options in grub
[04:56] <omgeek> I accessed it CLI
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> try the text  mode.
[04:56] <omgeek> Backup my data
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> !text
[04:56] <omgeek> Sure
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> then try to start the lightdm service and look for error mesages
[04:57] <omgeek> Okay I am reaching in a hour to office after I do same and tell you error msg
[04:57] <omgeek> Right now
[04:57] <omgeek>  I am using irc using my phone
[04:58] <juboba> I can't hibernate, how can I check for errors?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> suspend to ram? or to disk? I thought hibernate was disabled by default. and requires swap partition greater then your ram size
[05:07] <tim> Help...fresh install of ubuntu 12.04....can't get flash to work!!!!
[05:08] <AiriA> tim: what browser are you using?
[05:09] <tim> firefox and google chrome...can't get either to work
[05:10] <AiriA> I cant remember right now (sorry its really late) if Ubuntu by default comes with flash, so you will need to install.
[05:11] <AiriA> You can run a command line command to install and then should work: Open command line (ctrl+alt+t)
[05:11] <AiriA> Then type in: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> !flash
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> flash is not included by default
[05:11] <genii> Enable multiverse, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:12] <Dr_Willis>  the ubuntu-restricted-extras package can pull  in flash ;)
[05:12] <AiriA> Yeah, I didnt think it was...its been a while since I had to install it lol
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> clarify whats 'not working' with flash also.
[05:12] <AiriA> Youtube wont play? lol
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> 'not able to install' ?  ' installed but somthing weird happends..' and so on
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> Youtube - you can use html5 for many videos
[05:13] <genii> AiriA: That's the usual complaint...
[05:13] <tim> can't see videos on youtube.com
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> google-chrome also includes its own flash
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> tim:  so you did install flash? if so How?
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> i use flash download-manager tools for firefox so i rarely play flash in thebrowser any more
[05:15] <tim> installed from adobe site
[05:18] <Biomechd> hey guys, i want to switch the "user" i use to access files on the network host computer in my home. can i do that without logging out of/restarting the host computer?
[05:20] <eth0_up> how do i mount a partition with exec?
[05:20] <eth0_up> i tried adding exec in fstab
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> eth0_up:  what sort of filesystem?
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> im not sure 'exec' is a legimate option. ;)  just noexec
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> Biomechd:  one way  use the 'su' or 'login' command to change to the new user
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> and access the stuff via the shell
[05:29] <eth0_up> i'm trying to launch steam it says "Couldn't set up Steam data - please contact technical support"
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> you are using  the native linux steam client? or wine and the steam.exe ?
[05:35] <eth0_up> native linuc steam client
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> id check the steam linux support forums and channels then. may be a known bug
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> !steam
[05:36] <eth0_up> alright thanks
[05:56] <helmut_> hi
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> moo
[06:10] <arvnd> I'm new to Ubuntu, We have setup a production susyem on 12.10 instaed of on 12.04 lts. the system faced issue with dependencies and now stuck on boot screen. I need to do a grub reapir
[06:10] <arvnd> need help on it
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> try the boot-repair tool from a live cd
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[06:16] <arvnd> Thank you
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> !12.10
[06:17] <dreamon> hello. friend of mine broke a "update" maybe he means a "update from 11.10 to 12.04". so now he cant boot anymore. I started with livecd an chroot the system. tried to make some apt-get update/upgrades ... but every time i get "E: Internal Error, No file name for libuuid1" nothing is installed. What can I do? Or is there no hope?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> may be fastest to backup his imporntant data. then do a clean install
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> if you stopped a system upgrade in mid-process.. that can be very very bad.
[06:20] <dreamon> Dr_Willis, I dont know what he installed.. i think he could loss some programms.
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> you can alweays reinstall stuff from the repos
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> cant say that ive ever 'lost'  a program
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> at least not on ubuntu. ;)
[06:21] <dreamon> If he used a ppa?
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> look at the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   then
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> if he cant rember what he insgtalled.. makes me wonder if he really needed what he installed ;)
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> !clone
[06:23] <dreamon> Dr_Willis, I will do so. Thanks
[06:25] <dreamon> Last question. How can I compress the Home to a NTFS that I can unpack it to the new installed system easyly
[06:25] <SupaSol> Hello here
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> !info arc
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> !info ark
[06:26] <xeeder> hi everyone :) i am using this samsung HDD on my laptop; and i often hear this click plus lock sound. i think its the HDD sound; its strange that while this happens system works normally. Can anybody tell me how can i check my HDD? is there any tool which can tell me more about this issue or check my HDD in depth for any errors or any thing bad that can happen in future?
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> theres gui arvhive tools in the repos. or use the command line tar/bzip tools.
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> xeeder:  could be the disk has not been accessed for a while and is locking/sleeping. then spins back up when you access it again
[06:28] <xeeder> Dr_Willis: its a short beep plus lock; not click plus lock. sorry for error..
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> the system is beeping?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive ever sene that
[06:30] <xeeder> beep lasts for 1/10th of a second or so; no system doesnt. it looks to me that it comes from the dvd-rw. i have searched online for that and lots of user with this laptop are facing this error. so i was wondering if there is any tool in ubuntu that might help in figuring this out
[06:30] <dreamon> xeeder, There are different noises. I thought all are bad. Since I had a hdd that made 1 or 2 noises the day. how often do you hear it?
[06:31] <xeeder> dreamon: randomly; mostly while i am watching movies but that may be because i only use my laptop for watching movies
[06:32] <dreamon> xeeder, how often.. the day?
[06:32] <xeeder> dreamon: as i said randomly; it may not happen in a day or may happen twice or thrice.
[06:33] <darkangel> Hey just woundering what are Linux-backports-kernels?
[06:33] <dreamon> xeeder, I have this too..
[06:33] <xeeder> the strangest thing is that: system works completely normal! :O
[06:33] <xeeder> dreamon: are you using dell n5110?
[06:34] <dreamon> xeeder, I check the harddisk for errors.. nothing. I copied the hole thing.. No errors. So I ignored for about a 1year :)
[06:34] <xeeder> or a samsung drive HM641J1
[06:34] <dreamon> xeeder, No its an Acer Notebook. Think it is a Hardware thing..
[06:35] <xeeder> dreamon: one thing i can tell you for sure is that: Its not nothing!
[06:35] <xeeder> dreamon, i did check with my dell bios diagnostics utility and found no errors..
[06:36] <dreamon> here is it a double noise.. a hard click and something like a scratching thing.. an noise is ending
[06:36] <genii> !info linux-image-generic precise-backports
[06:36] <genii> Hm.
[06:37] <dreamon> xeeder, I dont believe all the tools out there I made ddrescue.. so I can see if there is any error.
[06:37] <xeeder> dreamon, no mine is like this: quick sharp beep which is followed by a lock sound (more of a click)
[06:38] <Pingu> hey
[06:38] <xeeder> dreamon, i was in the university where most of my class fellows were using Dell laptop (with samsung drives) and most of them end up with smart failure
[06:40] <xeeder> i dont want that; so thats why i wanted to make sure if its anything related to my HDD failure. I will really appreciate if someone can tell me about a good tool or utility that can scan my HDD for any kinda failures or can predict with some accuracy.
[06:40] <dreamon> I like if the hdd goes slowly with bad sectors to grave. The fast thing I hate ;)
[06:40] <darkangel> linux-headers-lbm-3.2.0-54-generic???
[06:40] <darkangel> whats that?
[06:40] <tux3> hello guys
[06:40] <xeeder> dreamon, yeah; seagate sucks!!!
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> always assume a hard drive is going to fail soon. ;) make backups
[06:40] <rev2d0tohn0> hey room quick question is ubuntu phone still going to happen?
[06:41] <xeeder> samsung drives are often rebranded (these are seagate drives if you search more)
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> rev2d0tohn0:  we cant predict the future ;)
[06:41] <rev2d0tohn0> ...:)thnks
[06:41]  * genii consults the Magic 8 Ball
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> i dont belive anything - untill i see it happen
[06:41] <xeeder> Dr_Willis: can you tell me any utility you know that can check my drives for errors?
[06:41] <JohnVonNeumann> i get this message at restart"continue to wait,press S to skip mounting or press M for manual recovery"
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> xeeder:  i rarely check mine. ;)
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> JohnVonNeumann:  it then boots? or does it wait fore er?
[06:43] <JohnVonNeumann> Dr_Willis:  only if i press s
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> JohnVonNeumann:  check your /etc/fstab file for an incorrect entry then
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> !fstab
[06:44] <xeeder> another thing which i have noticed is that if some HDD is going to have smart failure then windows OS wont install on that; it will show some yellow warning as it happens during Windows 7 installation. but if that same drive is used for Ubuntu installation then it works fine. :O
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> smart 'prediction' is often not the reliable
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> google did a big study about it a few years back
[06:45] <xeeder> Dr_Willis: but it does freak you out :P
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> i assume hds will die at any time. and always have backups
[06:45] <xeeder> what do you use for backups? cloud storage?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> redundant stacks of external USB hds. ;)
[06:46] <llutz> xeeder: HDDs :)
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> cloud for some stuff
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> nothing i have is business-critical
[06:46] <xmetal> i wondered for those that have their main drive images on the "cloud" ... how the heck do they think they will get online to restore those images
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> if i loose a HD - i got a spare in another room with the same copys of the wifes tv shows and so forth
[06:47] <JohnVonNeumann> Dr_Willis: http://dpaste.com/1398749/
[06:48] <xeeder> i just got 1TB WD passport and right now i am backing up my all stuff; is there any tool which can help me clean everything of my HDD; i know when data is deleted its still there; so i want to clean everything (every single byte)
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> JohnVonNeumann:  yep. thats a fstab file. comment out the drive thats failing perhaps?  the error message should say what entry is invalid
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> those entries seem weird. at the end.
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive ver seen one  like
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> /dev/disk/by-uuid/E6E0E017E0DFEC35 /media/My2Files auto nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 0
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> note how the ones above it use the UUID= type nameing
[06:50] <llutz> Dr_Willis: same thing, different naming. it should work both
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> just looks weird. ;)
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> never seen  x-gvfs-show  either
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> im too old skool i guess
[06:53] <xeeder> i know there is something called sanitizer but dont know if there is any available for ubuntu
[06:53] <JohnVonNeumann> Dr_Willis: it's /sdb3 ,but i wanna get it mounted
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> JohnVonNeumann:  i would guess that the entry for it is wrong some how
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> tell it to not  mount at boot time. and try mounting it after the system s booted.
[06:54] <R0b0t1> Hey, I'm using lubuntu, but I figure it should be similar. I want to set up another user as a sandbox, how do I give them an encrypted home?
[06:54] <xeeder> there are some tools in hiren's boot CDs. but i have never tried those. are these safe to use for HDD cleaning?
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> xeeder:  nothing is ever 100% safe ;)
[06:55] <R0b0t1> xeeder, if it can access the disk it's probably safe to "clean" with it.
[06:55] <llutz> xeeder: wipe, shred, sucure-delete, dd, .... shouldn't those do?
[06:55] <R0b0t1> But, beware of solar storms and the like. Those are unsafe :)
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> pay attention to what the tools are doing.
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> xeeder:  if you are worrined about secure deletion.. from what ive seen.. its not really worth worrying about
[06:56] <xeeder> llutz, yeah those should but what should be the recommended utility which can be used to use these commands?
[06:56] <xeeder> Dr_Willis: thanks :)
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> we have this discusion/argumentnt in here every so often.
[06:56] <R0b0t1> Dr_Willis, actually, I remember this good article/paper I read, they tested various delete schemes
[06:57] <llutz> to be continued in #computer-esotherics
[06:57] <R0b0t1> after basically one zero write you couldn't tell either way
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> yep. zero it.. and keep the tinfoil in the kitchen. not on your head.
[06:58] <JohnVonNeumann> Dr_Willis:  yep,2 tell u the truth ,i tried to edit it to mout /sdb3 an  /media/My4Files
[06:58] <R0b0t1> Hey, I'm using lubuntu, but I figure it should be similar. I want to set up another user as a sandbox, how do I give them an encrypted home?
[07:00] <xeeder> i might be looking into some good alternative for bitlocker too; one thats easily accessible in multiple platforms.
[07:01] <llutz> R0b0t1: if you already created the user, "ecryptfs-migrate-home" is the tool iirc
[07:02] <R0b0t1> llutz, will try
[07:02] <R0b0t1> not been created yet but a separate command seems like what it'd be
[07:03] <xeeder> basically i want to encrypt my HDD drives as a whole ; so that when i need to access files, i have to provide password and it should remain unlock for as long as the system is active; but it should be locked when i restart my system. if you are familiar with bitlocker than thats exactly what it does.
[07:03] <llutz> R0b0t1: adduser --encrypt-home username
[07:03] <R0b0t1> snazzy
[07:05] <arvnd> Im not able to mount a encrypted HDD from the live cd
[07:05] <arvnd> Ant tips on how that can be done >
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> askubuntu.com may have a guide arvnd  - ive sene that question asked beofr. but never really seen a quick anser/guide mentioned
[07:11] <R0b0t1> How can I launch a program from a su'd user into my wm?
[07:13] <xeeder> I want to encrypt my HDD drives as a whole so that when i need to access files, i have to provide password and it should remain unlock for as long as the system is active; but it should be locked after i have restarted the system. if you are familiar with bitlocker than thats exactly what it does. is there any software which can be helpful for this^ ?
[07:14] <EricKit> Hello.  I have a question I have not been able to solve on the forums or by looking online.  Whenever I restart my Ubuntu, my touchpad works.  If I start it from a clean boot it doesn't work.  So I have to start up, then restart to get it to work.  I have a Lenovo Twist, and the touch screen always works.
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  try this touchpad-toggle script i got from somewhere...
[07:17] <Dr_Willis>   touchpad-toggle
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6165822/
[07:17] <EricKit> Thanks Dr_Willis
[07:19] <R0b0t1> How can I launch a program from a su'd user into my desktop?
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> befor you sudo, you can use 'gksudo'  - you may need to sudo via 'sux' as an easy way to launch x apps later.
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> otherwise you may get into permissions and security issues.
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> you may ned to run 'xhost + localhost'  as the user running the desktop. and export the DISPLAY variable as the su'ed user
[07:21] <R0b0t1> Dr_Willis, cool thanks
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> befor running the app
[07:21] <R0b0t1> does this maintain sandbox though?
[07:22] <R0b0t1> X as a protocol leaks horrendously
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> no idea what you mean by 'sandbox'
[07:22] <sahil__> greeting everyone
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> that xhost + command basically turns off the X security stuff ;)
[07:22] <max64> is it different to download ubuntu 13.10 beta 2 and downloading the official release on 17 october?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> max64:  you can upgrade to final
[07:22] <sahil__> my system hae qute a many broken packges
[07:23] <R0b0t1> Cool yeah that worked
[07:23] <max64> Dr_Willis:if i download beta 2 is it dangerous in security?  it has many bugs?  if i upgrade on 17 october will i download another 800 mega bytes or just updates?
[07:23] <sahil__> my system has quite a many broken packages.... removing them from synaptic removes some important acakeges as well what should i do?
[07:24] <max64> i'm so happy that beta 2 is available
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> remove the broken. reinstal what you need
[07:24] <llutz> max64: #ubuntu+1 for saucy questions
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> max64:  the term beta - really dosent mean much these days. you could have been using 13.10  for the last few weeks if you wanted to
[07:25] <EricKit> I'm running 13.10
[07:25] <EricKit> It's stable to me
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> been running it here for the last month or so. ;P no issues that ive seen. so hopefully thats a good sign for everyone else. in a few weeks
[07:25] <xmetal> next upgrade I do will be one of the LTS releases though I haven't decided which OS yet
[07:25] <xmetal> (have two ideas really)
[07:26] <max64> Dr_Willis:i need to installubuntu 13.10 .. you advice me to download beta 2 now or to wait till 17 october?  thanks
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> max64:  id really shouldent matter - as i said you will upgrade to the final when it comes out
[07:26] <EricKit> Dr. Willis: I have a new issue.  My keyboard stops working as well after a shutdown, so there isn't much I can do.  These issues do not occur after a reboot.  Strange
[07:26] <sahil__> important pacages includes libgl1-mesa-dev,libx11-dev,libext-dev,libxt-dev,lightDM,messa-common-dev,greeter etc...
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  no idea on that. you may want to set up ssh so you can ssh in from a differfnt place and try to diagnoise stuff.
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> sahil__:  -dev packages should be easy to reinstall.
[07:27] <EricKit> Dr_Willis: I can ssh into it, what would you check?
[07:27] <max64> Dr_Willis:i'm sorry .. my last question is: if i upgrade will it download 860 mega bytes or just updating some packages less than 200 mega bytes?  thanks
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> bigger question is why things got broken
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> max64:  no idea.
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> i tend to upgrade the day befor release.. then wait a week or two ;)
[07:28] <max64> ty
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> on release days - the servers are normally so overloaded.. its a pain to install and get things setup ;)
[07:29] <jmgk> hm
[07:42] <hzyg> gg
[07:42] <hzyg> question
[07:42] <ObrienDave> !ask | hzyg
[07:43] <hzyg> dsad
[07:44] <hzyg> help
[07:44] <hzyg> !help
[07:44] <ObrienDave> hzyg... what is your question, please
[07:45] <pratz> Hello guys
[07:46] <pratz> I am using ubuntu 12.04 and have installed conky. Conky shows ups on desktop, which is cool. Can I bind conky to a key so that it can toggle ?
[07:46] <Calinou> pratz: probably possible, but I don't know how
[07:46] <pratz> hmmm
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> make a script that starts conky, then kills it if its running
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> but why bother. ;)
[07:50] <hoverboard> aloha
[07:50] <wylde> could possibly use wmctrl?
[07:51] <pratz> wylde: but I am using xfce, will it work with dfce ?
[07:51] <pratz> *xfce
[07:51] <wylde> ummm yes
[07:52] <arunpyasi> guys which server is fast for Qatar?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> there used to be a mirrorselect tool  - not sure if it still exists
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> !find mirrorselect
[07:53] <max64> you need downloading ubuntu?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> !find mirror-select
[07:55] <ObrienDave> arunpyasi... using a torrent client would probably be the fastest way to D/L Ubuntu
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> torrents to get the isos = best way ;)
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> faster for you. less server load  for everyone else
[07:57] <arunpyasi> hello
[07:57] <arunpyasi> !find mirror-select
[07:57] <arunpyasi> guys
[07:57] <arunpyasi> help me
[07:58] <arunpyasi> ObrienDave: I mean to download mirror software packages
[07:58] <jmgk> yes ar what is issue
[07:58] <ObrienDave> arunpyasi... we are trying to help you
[07:59] <arunpyasi> ObrienDave: I want to select the fastest mirror for apt-get
[07:59] <ObrienDave> arunpyasi... usually the closest mirror to you is the fastest
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> askubuntu.com may have some tips on picking the best mirrors also
[08:01] <arunpyasi> ObrienDave: yes bro but which is the closest mirror man
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/39922/how-do-you-select-the-fastest-mirror-from-the-command-line
[08:03] <xeeder> I want to encrypt my HDD drives as a whole so that when i need to access files, i have to provide password and it should remain unlock for as long as the system is active; but it should be locked after i have restarted the system. if you are familiar with bitlocker than thats exactly what it does. is there any software which can be helpful for this^ ?
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> !info netselect
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> !find netselect
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> hmm. interesting use of 'mirror' in apt to auto select closest  server
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> http://namhuy.net/1040/how-to-update-and-upgrade-with-fastest-mirror-from-the-command-line.html
[08:08] <Jordana-Watson> Hi guyz, Is there any s/w I can use to tunnel all TCP connections through Socks protocol through port 9150 ???
[08:08] <Jordana-Watson> Hi guyz, Is there any s/w I can use to tunnel all TCP connections through Socks protocol ??
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> xeeder:  search engins say see 'truecrypt'
[08:09] <Jordana-Watson> !truecrypt
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> !info redsocks
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/redsocks/
[08:11] <Jordana-Watson> But how can I set the socks proxy to localhost and port 9150 ???
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> !info tcpsocks
[08:12] <llutz> !info tsocks
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> Redirect traffic to SOCKS5 server with iptables, epoll based, single threaded.  https://github.com/vi/tcpsocks
[08:12] <Jordana-Watson> same problem in tsocks
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> what problem?
[08:13] <Jordana-Watson> I want to tunnel all connections through n/w .. ie, localhost:9150 (socks)
[08:13] <Jordana-Watson> I want to tunnel all connections through tor n/w .. ie, localhost:9150 (socks)
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> you looked at the docs for tsocks or redsocks yet?
[08:14] <Jordana-Watson> I am not that much experienced in these kinds of stuffs..so plz help me
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> iptables rules are mentioned at the redsocks web site i notice
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> I dont use the tools. so googling for you was all i have been doing.
[08:15] <EricKit> Okay Dr_Willis: I am still having this keyboard and mouse issue after a shutdown.  I have SSH'd into it, what do you think I should look at?
[08:15] <Jordana-Watson> let me check..thnx in advance
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  dmesg command outpuit. and see  perhaps  see if lsusb shows the devices
[08:16] <ObrienDave> Jordana-Watson... configuring Tor as an exit relay WILL get you banned from freenode
[08:16] <mvk> i'm using ubuntu, but i really need google-drive
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> ive seen unofficial google-drive clients for ubuntu
[08:17] <mvk> can anyone recommend me a hassle-free solution, that i dont have to look after?
[08:17] <EricKit> Dr_Willis: Would you like me to pastebin the output?
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> no idea how well any work.
[08:17] <mvk> i found grive, https://github.com/Grive/grive
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  i doubt if i can tell much from them . :) and im on my phone. so reading a 100 page dmesg log is a pain
[08:17] <mvk> but it cannot auto sync :D
[08:18] <Jordana-Watson> ObrienDave : oh/.....I don't know that..
[08:18] <ObrienDave> Jordana-Watson... trust me. it happened to me
[08:18] <wylde> !info grive
[08:18] <EricKit> Dr_Willis: Yes that makes sense.  I do'nt see the touchpad or keyboard in it
[08:18] <jay> Can't believe Google hasn't made an official client for Linux yet.
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  if you can get it working. see what modules are loaded. then compare the list with whats loaded when its not working
[08:19] <Jordana-Watson> ObrienDave: ok...I will connect to IRC via direct connection
[08:20] <Jordana-Watson> I have installed redsocks, so how can I configure redsocks with tor ???
[08:20] <wylde> mvk: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/09/mount-google-drive-in-linux-with-google.html
[08:21] <ObrienDave> Jordana-Watson... check with the Tor website or forums
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> !tor
[08:21] <ObrienDave> !tor-sasl
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> i thought tor worked with privoxy or whatever it was called.
[08:21] <Jordana-Watson> not mentioned in tor webpage...(about redsocks)
[08:21] <jay> I wouldn't trust Tor any longer.
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> i never really trusted tor. ;)
[08:22] <Jordana-Watson> yeah but privoxy only works for http
[08:22] <mvk> thanks wylde !
[08:22] <jay> The FBI admitted they actively work to sabatoge and subvert Tor.
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> jay:  thats what keeps everyone on their toes! ;)
[08:23] <Jordana-Watson> what u mean tor is insecure ???
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Jordana-Watson:  tor is about anonimity. not security ;)
[08:23] <chattr> jay: the FBI compromised and seized sites accessible only through tor. if they compromised tor itself, link please?
[08:23] <Jordana-Watson> can Cyber police / or somebody trace us
[08:23] <manik_> hey
[08:23] <ObrienDave> Jordana-Watson... NOTHING is totally secure
[08:23] <llutz> Dr_Willis: _was_ about anonymity
[08:24] <Jordana-Watson> yeah sure
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> there was a bit  thing about tor security issues a few weeks (months?) ago
[08:24] <chattr> there was a problem when people on Windows were using out-of-date tor packages
[08:24] <jay> If you're paranoid enough to use Tor, you should be paranoid enough NOT to use Tor.
[08:24] <manik_> Can anybody suggest me a Adobe Flash Player add-on alternative? Pretty much broken here.
[08:24] <ObrienDave> jay... so true ;)
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  i just use the flash downloader etensions - to download most videos
[08:25] <manik_> Dr_Willis Downloading each isn't the best option for me...
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> manik_:  there used to be an extension tha tplayed the videos in mplayer, or vlc. but i think its no longer udated.
[08:26] <manik_> Dr_Willis there must be some other add-ons for playing flash
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> google-chrome has its own flash also
[08:26] <manik_> yes, but doesn't work too well for me Dr_Willis
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> the 3 ways i mentioned so far about cover it all.
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> askubuntu.com may have other ideas.
[08:27] <manik_> oh, okay
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> i use flash downloaders in firefox. or google-chrome  mainly
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> that vlc-flash thing -  i bhttps://github.com/vi/tcpsockselive stopped being developed over a year+ ago
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> oops.. silly paste
[08:30] <manik_> got it
[08:30] <jay> Anyone ever donated to an open source project?
[08:31] <llutz> !ot | jay sure
[08:31] <jay> Not counting bitcoins...real money :p
[08:31] <jay> yeah, ot. My bad
[08:34] <EricKit> Dr_Willis:  I have compared the two scripts.  There are several scripts that are missing when boot up from a cold boot vs. when I restart the computer.
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  differnt modules. Hmm.. try loading them all :) and se eif the stuff starts working. could be some odd hardware quirk where the stuff is not detected so the modules dont load
[08:35] <EricKit> Dr_Willis: They are Touchpad model, SynPS/2 Synaptics Touchpad, psmouse serio2 and serio1, and IBM TrackPoint
[08:38] <jay> What can extract a .ace archive?
[08:38] <llutz> !info unace
[08:41] <ObrienDave> jay... try unace-nonfree
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> then thers front ends that would use the unace command if you want a gui
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> !info unp
[08:50] <llutz> unp has a gui now?
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> well its a front end
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> and its a must  hav e tool ;)
[08:51] <llutz> but still not a gui, isn't it? :)
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> if its in a xterm yes. ;)
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> i dont even use any of the other tools
[08:52] <llutz> most simple gui ever, xterm
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> Im still trying to figure out how wine's winrar.exe got assoicated with .iso files on my one machine
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> we had someone in here mad that ubuntu wanted $$ to access the iso.. and it was winrar on windows opening the iso ;)
[08:53] <EricKit> So now why would my laptop's moue and keyboard not be detected after a cold start, but it is detected after a reboot?  I checked /proc/bus/input/devices and it only shows the touchpad after a restart
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> that was demanding money
[08:53] <Rory> Dr_Willis: I love it
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  some hardware is not getting initilized properly would be my guess. ive seen the reverse of that with a sound card once.
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> Cold boot -> it worked - reboot from windows -> failed.
[08:54] <jboii> http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2012/176/c/0/arch_linux_xfce4_by_4bidden404-d54u472.png
[08:54] <jboii> how can i get my desktop look like that?
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  try loading the moduels by hand if they fail.. and see if the devices show up
[08:55] <aeon-ltd> jboii: find the theme for xfce?
[08:55] <aeon-ltd> jboii: kinda a big question you're asking
[08:55] <ObrienDave> jboii... umm, use that .png as a background image?
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> take that screenshot - make it your wallpaper ;) and hide all your panels..
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> looks like rather straight forward xfce with 2 panels configured how they wanted
[08:57] <aeon-ltd> jboii: if you found the image usually the user writes the themes and packages they used in the description, or they are active on forums and such so you can ask them
[08:57] <ObrienDave> or you can install arch ;)
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> i dont really see whats so special about the setup in that image
[08:59] <ObrienDave> eye candy LOL
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> i dont even see much of that
[08:59] <llutz> why would one want an archlinux-logo on is *buntu-desktop?
[08:59] <ObrienDave> they must like it for some reason
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> looks like that fraanzea icon theme
[09:00] <aeon-ltd> llutz: well you'd be surprised
[09:00] <ObrienDave> after being on this channel for 2 years, NOTHING surprises me anymore
[09:01] <aeon-ltd> llutz: there are a lot of windows users who used to want xp/vista to look like osx usually including the 'space' themed default BGs of osx
[09:03] <aeon-ltd> it's kinda odd though, with the absolute freedom to customize on linux users could make a desktop tailored for everything they want/need
[09:03] <llutz> aeon-ltd: odd people do odd things
[09:04] <EricKit> Dr_Willis: How do I tell which module it is that I'm supposed to load? I'm comparing lsmod for both examples right now
[09:04]  * Dr_Willis goes back to using Hanna-Montanna-Linux
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  load all of them that are not loaded?
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> if that dosent work. that points to the hardware actually not being detected by the kernel, if it does work - it would point to some bug where the hardware is detected but the modules are not getting autoloaded
[09:06] <seba4> Morning 2 all
[09:06] <seba4> One question hope someone knows what it could be
[09:06] <seba4> i setup mail with postfix dovecot
[09:06] <jboii> werent any info on how to install it
[09:07] <seba4> and i tried to send with:    mail info@seba4.info
[09:07] <seba4> i just skip at cc
[09:07] <seba4> and then is subject and text..
[09:07] <jboii> myunity is not available on the ubuntu version that works only 9 months ?
[09:07] <seba4> i cant end it only with ctrl d
[09:07] <seba4> which stops mail
[09:07] <aeon-ltd> seba4: one line of it's hard to read
[09:07] <aeon-ltd> *or
[09:08] <seba4> :) sory
[09:08] <llutz> seba4: single "period" . on a line doesn't end the mail?
[09:08] <seba4> no
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> !info myunity
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> jboii:  it may have a ppa or hompage/download
[09:09] <bazhang> jboii, its unity-tweak-tool
[09:09] <seba4> i could only interrupt mailutils
[09:10] <seba4> does it have any log what is happening.. if there is any error
[09:11] <luser> hello
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> jello
[09:13] <luser> nevermind i solved the problem on my own
[09:13] <luser> Dr_Willis: thanks anyway
[09:14] <EricKit> Dr-Willis: I noticed that psmouse was not loaded.  So I loaded it but still no access to mouse
[09:16] <brittany> Hi guys. I've recently updated to 13.04. I've found that the mouse settings for my touchpad are really strange. There seems to be a purposeful lag before something happens. Such as click-dragging to copy some text or moving a window by its' title bar. I'd like these things to be instant, but they seem to require a wait, or start doing it after I've begun the motion. Does anyone have any idea about this?
[09:16] <llutz> seba4: seems mailutils "mail" does not use the "." while most other mail commands do
[09:16] <seba4> llutz: oh ... how to exit then heh:)
[09:16] <seba4> i can try it even with other utils
[09:17] <llutz> seba4: ctrl-d seems to be the (strange) way
[09:17] <TheMercurio> Hi guys
[09:17] <seba4> yea but ctrl d is interupt
[09:17] <g38> hello
[09:17] <seba4> which just stops the code and returns to console
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  afer loading the modules - check dmesg, to see if the deivves are shown. and se eif they exist in  the /dev/* stuff you mentioned earlier
[09:18] <TheMercurio> I want to share my internet connection to my other devices... But when I create a hosted network it disconnect from the network which I get Internet
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> seba4:  ctrl \   perhaps?
[09:18] <seba4> let me try
[09:18] <TheMercurio> Is there a way to share my wi-fi connection with wi-fi? like Windows?
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> the man pages may mention how else to end it. ;)
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> !ics
[09:19] <seba4> Dr_Willis:  Quit( core dumped)
[09:19] <llutz> seba4: mailutils "mail" quits and sends mail after pressing ctrl-d here
[09:19] <seba4> oh really  thx
[09:19] <g38> There is an ubuntu machine on which I am not root but which I can shutdown from the login screen (I just click on "shutdown" etc). How can I shut it down remotely (via ssh)? I cannot run "sudo shutdown", but surely there must be a way to tell the login programme that I want to shutdown just as if I was in front of the computer?
[09:19] <TheMercurio> Dr_Willis, I read it already but there is no way to share without disconnect...
[09:19] <seba4> lluty: then there is a prob with setup need to try it thx for help
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> ctrl-d is the same as ctrl-\ isent it? been so long since ive used  mail
[09:19] <seba4> llutz: then there is a prob with setup need to try it thx for help
[09:19] <iXeno> hi, I installed both xmonad and fvwm, but when choosing window manager at the login screen, I only get to choose between fvwm and unity...  how do I get xmonad listed there? or can't I?
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> TheMercurio:  you got 2 internet cards or just the 1?
[09:20] <TheMercurio> I guess only 1
[09:20] <TheMercurio> but allows hostednetwork, I'm sure.
[09:20] <seba4> one question i tried setting up mail with postfix dovecot mysql.
[09:20] <ObrienDave> brittany... did you update to HD or USB stick?
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> iXeno:  make a xmonad.desktop entry  in the xsessions directory for it to run what you want
[09:20] <seba4> what admin app u recommend for mails
[09:20] <llutz> seba4: usually i use mailx (bsd or heirloom), those use the . as expected
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> iXeno:  there may be some guides on askubuntu.com for getting xmonad going right also. (i dont use it)
[09:21] <seba4> llutz: will check it:) Thanks for help.
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> !find xmonad.desktop
[09:21] <g38> for information the machine uses lightdm
[09:22] <Dr_Willis> looks like xmonad should have a .desktop entry allready made.
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> g38:  perhaps the poweroff command? you can set up specific users with rights to run specific commands  in /etc/sudoers
[09:23] <Dr_Willis> with sudoers they dont need full sudo rights (so its a safer way)
[09:24] <johey> If my kernel hangs at boot when using lowlatency, how can I start tracking the problem down? Using Ubuntu 13.04 with official lowlatency kernel package.
[09:24] <llutz> seba4: have a look here, maybe it has what you want http://sourceforge.net/projects/postfixadmin
[09:25] <zomgdocker> hello awesome peolpe. is there a way i can download a minimal ubuntu filesystem so i can run it within LXC?
[09:25] <wilee-nilee> zomgdocker: there is the net install.
[09:26] <zomgdocker> The net install?
[09:26] <EricKit> Dr_Willis: The only module not loaded is psmouse.  I used insmod to load it and the mouse still doesn't work
[09:26] <llutz> !mini | zomgdocker
[09:26] <seba4> llutz: looks fine will check it thx. :)
[09:27] <zomgdocker> Wow. that IS small haha
[09:28] <JohnVonNeumann> i can't get /dev/sdb3 mounted
[09:28] <zomgdocker> But no clue how to install it using lxc. hmm. I sorta just need the filesystem, and not an installer
[09:28] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  use 'sudo modprobe modulename' that way it pulls in other modules (i think)
[09:28] <llutz> zomgdocker: you want something like usermode-linux or what?
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  psmouse is the ps2 mouse thats also used for most touchpads i think
[09:29] <Dr_Willis> JohnVonNeumann:  try mounting it by hand. give us the command you are using, and any error messages
[09:29] <brittany> ObrienDave: Hdd.
[09:29] <zomgdocker> llutz, i want to run ubuntu in LXC-START container. But i don't want to mount the parent FS. I want to mount a LVM/block volume. With minimal linux, so i can move it around after wards.
[09:30] <EricKit> Dr_Willis: the I did the modprobe.  It gave no output and the mouse is still not owrking
[09:30] <TheMercurio> Is there a way to share my wireless Internet connection with create wireless ad-hoc?
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  touchpad works?
[09:30] <EricKit> Dr_Willis: Nope
[09:31] <zomgdocker> But maybe i just need to setup a virtual machine, install the minmal cd, and then convert the volume to a block FS.
[09:31] <zomgdocker> The idea is is that i have an isolated environment voor LXC
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  lsusb and lspci dont show the devicves either?
[09:32] <Fly> Hi Guys, I have a problem with Gameing on Linux, Wine, and my Graphics card. Since I need so space to descibe the problemm, i posted it on ubuntu pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6166171/
[09:32] <JohnVonNeumann> Dr_Willis: i tried mounting it by pressinr the mount option,here is the error message  ,  http://dpaste.com/1398830/
[09:33] <EricKit> Dr_Willis: They do not.
[09:34] <g38> Dr_Willis, I cannot run sudo poweroff
[09:34] <g38> Dr_Willis, I am wondering about a way to tell lightdm that I have clicked on shutdown
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> JohnVonNeumann:  try mounting it by hand. and look for error messaqges
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> EricKit:  sounds like the laptop for somereason is not initilizeing the hardware in a way that the kernel can see it.
[09:35] <EricKit> Dr_willis: Thanks, I'll keep researchign
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> g38:  so this is your pc? or you are just a lowly user?
[09:36] <g38> Dr_Willis, I am a lowly user. But I have access to the console everyday, and from there I can shutdown. It's just that right now I'm not physically in front of it.
[09:36] <JohnVonNeumann> Dr_Willis: how ?
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> !mount | JohnVonNeumann
[09:37] <JohnVonNeumann> Dr_Willis: i tried mounting it by pressinr the mount option,here is the error message  ,  http://dpaste.com/1398830/
[09:37] <Dr_Willis> you could have just pasted the single line of the error message ;)
[09:38] <Dr_Willis> try mounting it by hand giveing it the full set of options. what kind of filesystem is it?
[09:38] <wylde> JohnVonNeumann: mount it in the terminal so you get more useful error messages...
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> g38:  Hmm. wait.. from the text console you can use 'shutdown' but over ssh it wont?
[09:39] <JohnVonNeumann> wylde:  what literallt should i type?
[09:39] <JohnVonNeumann> literally*
[09:40] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: "sudo mount /dev/sdb3 /mnt"
[09:40] <wylde> !mount | JohnVonNeumann -- did you read any of it?
[09:40] <g38> Dr_Willis, no, not from the text console, I mean I can click on "shutdown" from the login screen
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> g38:  thats because the gdm service has rights. So you have no sudo rights at all. :()  there might be some defaut command that lets a user shutdown. but ive never noticed it
[09:41] <Dr_Willis> g38: i doubt if your user will have the rights to do anything directly to gdm either. askubuntu.com may offer some insight. I know of ways to let a user do those commands. but you would need sudo rights to set the ways up.
[09:42] <JohnVonNeumann> deepblue@deepblue-945GCM-S2L ~ $ sudo mount /dev/sdb3/media/My4Files
[09:42] <JohnVonNeumann> [sudo] password for deepblue:
[09:42] <JohnVonNeumann> mount: can't find /dev/sdb3/media/My4Files in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[09:42] <Dr_Willis> JohnVonNeumann:  you missed a space in your command...
[09:43] <wylde> JohnVonNeumann: sudo mount /dev/sdb3 /path/to/mount/point
[09:44] <otak> if JohnVonNeumann has the same problem as yesterday, grep sdb3 /etc/fstab will show the wrong fs type
[09:45] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: pastebin your /etc/fstab and the output of "sudo blkid" and "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb"
[09:46] <JohnVonNeumann> Dr_Willis:  ,wylde,otak,llutz   :it's mounted now
[09:47] <JohnVonNeumann> r there any other nessecary changes ?
[09:48] <wylde> JohnVonNeumann: do what llutz asked you then we can tell you
[09:48] <JohnVonNeumann> wylde :ok
[09:52] <ANMAPAFRA> ciao
[09:52] <ANMAPAFRA> !list
[09:53] <eliesin> Is "sudo restart networking" on its own supposed to return the system to its previous state? When I try, I just end up with the loopback interface and none others recognized.
[09:53] <JohnVonNeumann> llutz: here   ,  http://dpaste.com/1398855/
[09:56] <eliesin> Alternatively: if I (intentionally) put the system in a non-networked state via "sudo stop networking", how do I restore full networking capabilities as it's done during bootup? At least on this machine, running 13.10 with Intel's wifi chipset, "sudo start networking" does not in fact restore the eth0 and wlan0 interfaces.
[09:57] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: change that last line into "UUID=002d3ce8-abd5-436b-89aa-d03d9241604c /media/My4Files ext4      nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 0"  and try again
[09:58] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: after finishing the fstab-change, do "sudo umount /media/My4Files && sudo mount /media/My4Files"
[09:58] <JohnVonNeumann> llutz :change it to what?
[09:58] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: change that last line into "UUID=002d3ce8-abd5-436b-89aa-d03d9241604c /media/My4Files ext4      nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 0"
[09:58] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: last line of your /etc/fstab
[09:59] <llutz> whatever x-gvfs-show might be
[09:59] <AlbertJB> Hello, I would like to get back my account AlbertJB, I've logged in with SSO and now I am AlbertJB2
[09:59] <JohnVonNeumann> lltutz: ok
[10:00] <AlbertJB> I mean in http://ubuntuforums.org
[10:00] <AlbertJB> I am no able to get back my AlbertJB account?
[10:01] <polter> AlbertJB: join #ubuntuforums
[10:01] <ikonia> AlbertJB: talk to the forum admins
[10:01] <AlbertJB> ok thanks
[10:01] <ikonia> AlbertJB: there is a mail address on the forums website
[10:03] <JohnVonNeumann> llutz: here , http://dpaste.com/1398857/
[10:04] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: "sudo blkid -g && sudo blkid /dev/sdb3"    is the shown UUID still the same?
[10:05] <JohnVonNeumann> llutz: deepblue@deepblue-945GCM-S2L ~ $ sudo blkid -g && sudo blkid /dev/sdb3
[10:05] <JohnVonNeumann> /dev/sdb3: UUID="002d3ce8-abd5-436b-89aa-d03d9241604c" TYPE="ext4"
[10:06] <matthias_> hi i need your help with a python prorgamm
[10:06] <llutz> and the TYPE JohnVonNeumann
[10:06] <ikonia> matthias_: try #python
[10:06] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: "grep My4 /etc/fstab"
[10:07] <JohnVonNeumann> llutz: ext4
[10:07] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: yes sry, seen it too late
[10:07] <matthias_> ikonia: the channel is unregistered
[10:08] <ikonia> matthias_: then register an account and join the real registered channel
[10:09] <JohnVonNeumann> llutz: deepblue@deepblue-945GCM-S2L ~ $ grep My4 /etc/fstab
[10:09] <JohnVonNeumann> UUID=002d3ce8-abd5-436b-89aa-d03d9241604c /media/My4Files ext4      nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 0
[10:09] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: reads fine, no idea then why it fails
[10:10] <ikonia> what is it failing with ?
[10:10] <reisio> probably want that to be 0 1 or 0 2 at the end, though it's not likely to do with whatever your issue is
[10:10] <ikonia> (apologies for being late to the conversation)
[10:10] <JohnVonNeumann> llutz: ok,thanx bud.
[10:11] <llutz> ikonia: http://dpaste.com/1398857/ when he mounts manually (umount because we mounted by hand before), his fstab/blkid/fdisk http://dpaste.com/1398855/
[10:12] <ikonia> could it not be as simple as it's damaged ?
[10:12] <ikonia> why is there gfs settings ?
[10:13] <reisio> would it need to be sudo mount UUID=foo, and not mount /mnt/point ?
[10:13] <reisio> wouldn't it*
[10:13] <llutz> reisio: either device/uuid or mountpoint it an fstab-entry exists
[10:13] <llutz> if
[10:13] <reisio> k
[10:14] <reisio> so what happens if you have FSes sharing a mount point in /etc/fstab, I wonder :p
[10:14] <ikonia> it looks as if the superblock is just damaged ?
[10:14] <ikonia> so it can't identify the file system
[10:14] <ikonia> the other partitions mount fine, I assume
[10:14] <llutz> ikonia: damaged? but why could he mount it using "mount /dev/sdb3 /mountpoint"
[10:14] <ikonia> ahh he can actually mount it then
[10:14] <ikonia> I missed the
[10:14] <ikonia> that
[10:14] <ikonia> change fstab to reference /dev/sdb3 and try mount /mountpoint
[10:15] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: to do so,  change that last line of fstab into "/dev/sdb3 /media/My4Files ext4      nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 1"
[10:15] <hanning> hi, still trying to disable stereo upmixing in ubuntu. it looks like pulseaudio is not the cause. is anyone available for help? :)
[10:15] <reisio> hanning: upmixing?
[10:17] <hanning> stereo upmix is some kind of virtual surround
[10:17] <reisio> hanning: it's trying to output 5.1?
[10:17] <JohnVonNeumann> llutz:  ok,done
[10:17] <hanning> well not exactly 5.1, but i hear stereo music on every speaker
[10:17] <hanning> i'd like to disable that behaviour :/
[10:18] <reisio> ah
[10:18] <ikonia> hanning: some headsets do this internally, are you sure your speaker setup is not doing it
[10:18] <reisio> hanning: and you're sure the media you're accessing isn't mono?
[10:18] <eliesin> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/quantal/en/man5/pulse-daemon.conf.5.html says set enable-remixing to "no"
[10:19] <eliesin> (Then send PA the SIGHUP or restart or whatever it needs to pick up changed settings)
[10:19] <hanning> i don't use a headset. i my 5.1-system is plugged in as an analog source.
[10:19] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: to test do "sudo umount /media/My4Files && sudo mount /media/My4Files"
[10:20] <ikonia> whoaaa
[10:20] <hanning> i got multiple OS running on my machine, ubuntu is the only one with that weird stereo upmix ;)
[10:20] <ikonia> actually - that's fine
[10:20] <ikonia> sorry
[10:20] <eliesin> hanning: enable-remixing in pulse-daemon.conf
[10:20] <hanning> already disabled
[10:20] <eliesin> Ah okay
[10:20] <hanning> i think alsa is doing something wrong
[10:20] <hanning> speaker-test on 6 channels is working fine
[10:21] <JohnVonNeumann> llutz: umount: /media/My4Files: not mounted
[10:21] <ikonia> ok, so mount it
[10:21] <hanning> i still have upmixing when i output to ALSA directly
[10:21] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: "sudo mount /media/My4Files"
[10:21] <hanning> so..
[10:22] <JohnVonNeumann> llutz: deepblue@deepblue-945GCM-S2L ~ $ sudo mount /media/My4Files
[10:22] <JohnVonNeumann> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb3,
[10:22] <JohnVonNeumann>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[10:22] <JohnVonNeumann>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[10:22] <JohnVonNeumann>        dmesg | tail  or so
[10:22] <FloodBot1> JohnVonNeumann: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:23] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: "sudo mount /dev/sdb3 /media/My4Files"
[10:23] <eliesin> Yeah, and ALSA does't appear to have any setting nearly so straightforward.
[10:23] <justaguy> does ubuntu have any support for fingerprint scanners on laptops
[10:24] <eliesin> There are variations of manual channel mappings and an "upmix" plugin AFAICT
[10:24] <ikonia> justaguy: depends on the hardware device
[10:24] <Fly> Hi! I got a problem related to Gaming, Wine, My Graphics Card, and PlayOnLinux. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6166171/
[10:24] <JohnVonNeumann> llutz:  no output
[10:24] <reisio> justaguy: they are of course pathetic as security devices, however :)
[10:24] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: mount|grep sdb3            should give an output
[10:24] <ikonia> Fly: try the play on linux support channel or at a push wine
[10:25] <ikonia> llutz: ok, this looks interesting, nice find
[10:25] <JohnVonNeumann> llutz: /dev/sdb3 on /media/My4Files type ext4 (rw)
[10:25] <Fly> ikonia: thank you
[10:25] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: get rid of the x-gvfs-...., change that last line of fstab into "/dev/sdb3 /media/My4Files ext4      nosuid,nodev,nofail 0 1"
[10:25] <ikonia> Fly: (as in the wine channel at a push)
[10:26] <ikonia> JohnVonNeumann: can we have a look at the line in your fstab as it is now please
[10:26] <ikonia> before you make any more changes
[10:26] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: i have no idea why the fstab entry won't work. only thing is about that gvfs (whatever that is)
[10:26] <justaguy> reisio: some laptops have fingerprint scanners on it, would be sad to not use them instead of writing your password
[10:26] <reisio> justaguy: password is far more secure
[10:26] <hanning> writing your password is actually safer ;)
[10:26] <reisio> incredibly more secure
[10:27] <reisio> although if they have physical access to your machine, actually neither will be enough
[10:27] <llutz> fingerprints are safe [signed: nsa]
[10:27] <hanning> :)
[10:27] <reisio> but a password will be slightly harder to circumvent
[10:27] <eliesin> reisio: fingerprints are left everywhere
[10:27] <faugusztin> most of all, using fingerprint scanner is annoying... "please try again" :D
[10:27] <reisio> eliesin: yup
[10:27] <eliesin> Something more akin to the evil maid attack is necessary for passwords
[10:27] <JohnVonNeumann> llutz: ok
[10:28] <reisio> and newer smartphones will be lifting them without your permission :)
[10:28] <justaguy> the only thing why i have protection is so no one opens my facebook while i'm away and writes childish things like "I'm gay!" as status update
[10:28] <reisio> eliesin: which is easily accomplished with physical access, which is what you have if you're dealing with a fingerprint scanner
[10:28] <eliesin> Yeah, the CCC's demonstration regarding that was fun
[10:28] <reisio> CCC? :)
[10:28] <eliesin> German Chaos computer club
[10:28] <reisio> ah
[10:28] <JohnVonNeumann> llutz: /dev/sdb3 /media/My4Files ext4      nosuid,nodev,nofail 0 1
[10:29] <reisio> justaguy: I would totally evil maid your box to do that :p
[10:29] <eliesin> They were the ones who made the news recently showing the iPhone's fingerprint auth could be spoofed with a 2400dpi scanner
[10:29] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: again "sudo umount /media/My4Files && sudo mount /media/My4Files"
[10:29] <reisio> although your password probably isn't even to an encrypted FS, so I wouldn't actually have to evil maid you :p
[10:29] <JohnVonNeumann> llutz:  no output
[10:30] <reisio> eliesin: yeah, naturally, it's a silly way to authenticate
[10:30] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: finally it worked
[10:30] <ikonia> that gfs line isn't happy with ext4
[10:30] <reisio> eliesin: but what is more bothersome than things we already knew is a million potential new ways people will give up their fingerprints without their permission/knowledge
[10:30] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: there is something wrong with the x-gvfs-show option you use.
[10:30] <JohnVonNeumann> llutz:  u think it's done noe?
[10:30] <eliesin> reisio: better in these analysis to assume there's not some random open window elsewhere if one is just talking about securing the front door, for a productive discussion :p
[10:30] <llutz> JohnVonNeumann: i'm pretty sure, yes
[10:30] <JohnVonNeumann> now*
[10:30] <eliesin> *analyses
[10:31] <ikonia> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-disk-utility/+bug/1011257
[10:31] <ikonia> it's a bug
[10:31] <JohnVonNeumann> llutz:  ok thanx bud.  and sorry 4 the disconvenience
[10:31] <reisio> well, laptops are mobile, and open windows aren't nearly as convenient as even (tumbler) locked doors :p
[10:31] <reisio> but we digress :D
[10:31] <llutz> doesn't work != prevents mounting at all
[10:31] <eliesin> But, yeah, the fingerprint setup seems because of what you suggest, particularly problematic. People only have 10 fingerprints to run through too. Unless they want to take advantage of the iPhone's (and presumably laptop) fingerprint scanners) working on their cats' paws too
[10:31] <llutz> so bug confirmed++
[10:31] <eliesin> Then they have four more
[10:31] <ikonia> llutz: it's a badly written bug for sure, but when you read the content, it's a valid bug that we've just seen here
[10:32] <llutz> ikonia: i should have googled it before... anyways finally it works
[10:32] <chattr> llutz: maybe lines 37, 38 and 39 in http://dpaste.com/1398855/ need editing also (the gfs stuff and 'auto' as a filesystem type)
[10:32] <ikonia> llutz: I just had a quick look on launchpad just to see if it was a bug,
[10:32] <llutz> chattr: those fs seem to mount fine(whyever), so no need to
[10:33] <chattr> llutz: 'auto in the third field is ok? if yes, then TIL
[10:33] <llutz> chattr: its valid, yes
[10:33] <chattr> ty
[10:34] <llutz> gtg, nice weekend all
[10:34] <havv> I'm using lubuntu on a virtual machine (VirtualBox), if I switch it to terminal mode, will it go easier on my computer (memory wise and such)?
[10:34] <ikonia> havv: if you don't run a desktop, it is less work for your machine, yes
[10:35] <eliesin> Memorywise, probably not, though. I believe (maybe I'm wrong) that VirtualBox allocates the entirety of the guest's memory allocation regardless
[10:35] <eliesin> Certainly, if the guest uses less, it can remain paged out
[10:35] <ikonia> of course it will save memory
[10:35] <ikonia> running X11 uses ram
[10:35] <havv> ikonia: can I start it up in terminal mode? I switched it using ctrl+alt+F1
[10:35] <ikonia> havv: you'll need to disable X windows from starting
[10:36] <eliesin> ikonia: well, it should reduce resident size, not address space size (which for VirtualBox I believe is constant however much of it is used)
[10:36] <Iamtougs> but if you run less you can allocate less RAM irrespective of reservation or allocation
[10:37] <ikonia> eliesin: I guess he needs to clarify if it's the guest/host he wants to reduce as I agree it's only the guest
[10:37] <havv> yeah, I was talking about the guest
[10:37] <eliesin> So yeah, to be sure, do what Iamtougs says
[10:37] <Fly> ikonia: but since you can set the guests memory you can save that on the host as well ;)
[10:38] <Iamtougs> just increase and decrease as required over time, if resources are so closely contested
[10:38] <Iamtougs> and you'll find the sweet spot
[10:39] <havv> ikonia: will this http://askubuntu.com/questions/16371/how-do-i-disable-x-at-boot-time-so-that-the-system-boots-in-text-mode do the trick for me?
[10:45] <cricri7> (probably stupid) question: is it possible to install lubuntu alongside ubuntu (on the same machine)?
[10:46] <reisio> cricri7: yup, just install lubuntu-desktop
[10:47] <reisio> each DE's menus might be cluttered, by default, with extraneous items from the other DE
[10:47] <reisio> but you can fix that in various ways
[10:47] <reisio> cricri7: you can also of course do a completely separate installation
[10:47] <reisio> as in two OSes
[10:47] <reisio> but I wouldn't really recommended that, unless you are quite bored
[10:48] <cricri7> and i will be able to choose at startup which one to launch?
[10:48] <arunpyasi> guys how to use Remmina , please help me
[10:48] <eliesin> Searched some. Is looks like "sudo services networking restart" / "sudo restart networking" isn't supposed to kill networking entirely?
[10:49] <arunpyasi> guys how to use Remmina , please help me
[10:49] <reisio> cricri7: yup
[10:49] <cricri7> thank you
[10:49] <reisio> arunpyasi: run it?
[10:50] <arunpyasi> reisio: how to ?? can't configure
[10:50] <reisio> eliesin: restart would likely kill it for a trivial, potentially insignificant amount of time
[10:50] <reisio> eliesin: technically, historically, restarting an init/service actually stops it, and starts it again
[10:50] <reisio> arunpyasi: why can't you configure?
[10:50] <eliesin> reisio: yeah, that part's fine. It's simply not coming back.
[10:50] <arunpyasi> I want to control my friends computer but how??
[10:50] <eliesin> Or, well. The interfaces eth0 and wlan0 aren't
[10:51] <arunpyasi> reisio: its hard than teamviewer
[10:51] <reisio> eliesin: you do an upgrade?
[10:51] <reisio> arunpyasi: it requires more configuration, yes
[10:51] <reisio> arunpyasi: what OS is your friend's computer running?
[10:51] <eliesin> Yes. On Saucy. Initially was on Raring on this installation
[10:51] <arunpyasi> reisio: Ubuntu Quantal
[10:51] <reisio> arunpyasi: that is, it requires more configuration up front, and less over time
[10:51] <reisio> arunpyasi: okay, then you'd be using VNC
[10:52] <reisio> arunpyasi: does your friend have his VNC server enabled?
[10:52] <arunpyasi> yes VNC
[10:52] <arunpyasi> oh
[10:52] <arunpyasi> so the server must be runned in his computer?
[10:52] <reisio> by default it tends to be disabled, as a security/efficiency measure
[10:52] <reisio> yes usually
[10:52] <eliesin> Restarting network-manager works fine. It's just /etc/init/networking that's seems to stay dead
[10:52] <arunpyasi> I installed vnc4server in my computer
[10:52] <reisio> arunpyasi: the server is for connecting _to_
[10:53] <reisio> the viewer for connecting _from_
[10:53] <arunpyasi> oh ok
[10:53] <reisio> he needs the server, you need the client
[10:53] <reisio> though they frequently to come together
[10:53] <arunpyasi> oh ok I will ask him to install
[10:53] <arunpyasi> reisio: please help me step wise ok
[10:53] <reisio> arunpyasi: and it might be installed already, but merely not running
[10:54] <reisio> if there's something referring to 'vnc' in /etc/init*, it's probably already installed
[10:54] <arunpyasi> ok reisio so what should I do??
[10:54] <reisio> eliesin: so this is wired?
[10:54] <reisio> arunpyasi: check in that path for something related to 'vn'c
[10:54] <reisio> erm, 'vnc', that is
[10:54] <reisio> or pgrep -l vnc
[10:54] <eliesin> Wifi in this case. Can test wired if it matters. eth0 doesn't come back any more than wlan0. I'm left with only lo
[10:54] <reisio> should tell you if it exists / is already running
[10:55] <eliesin> The interfaces totally disappear from ifconfig, etc.
[10:55] <reisio> eliesin: did you reboot at all?
[10:55] <arunpyasi> reisio: what if I ask him to install vnc4server ?
[10:55] <reisio> arunpyasi: that could be useful
[10:55] <arunpyasi> ok
[10:56] <reisio> arunpyasi: it might even automatically start the server after installation
[10:56] <eliesin> Rebooting fixes it. I should say, this is a proxy for another issue. The point is to use this (which simulates the symptoms well and I think might be effectively what's happening there) to fix/work around the other issue
[10:56] <reisio> arunpyasi: although
[10:56] <arunpyasi> yes
[10:56] <reisio> arunpyasi: if it's an actual server install, without a DE (such as Unity/GNOME), then you wouldn't actually want VNC
[10:56] <reisio> you'd want just ssh
[10:56] <eliesin> So, yeah, the question is, if I "sudo stop networking", how can one recover from that without restarting?
[10:56] <reisio> eliesin: is that the "other" issue?
[10:57] <reisio> networkmanager uses magic to determine what configurations to use
[10:57] <reisio> the networking service by itself uses only the static configuration/s you have
[10:57] <eliesin> No. The other issue is sleep/resume related. Lid-closing then resuming kills networking this way. But sudo pm-suspend doesn't.
[10:57] <reisio> you likely want to use only one or the other
[10:57] <arunpyasi> man reisio its asking password
[10:57] <reisio> arunpyasi: right, you need a password for a user's account
[10:58] <arunpyasi> ok
[10:58] <eliesin> Right, okay, so if I added wlan0 to /etc/networking/interfaces that would work. But, that's clearly not necessarily on an ordinary boot
[10:58] <eliesin> How does one replicate, or at least re-run, network-manager's magic? Because I did try the sequence "stop network-manager; stop networking; start networking; start network-manager"
[10:58] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:58] <eliesin> And that doesn't work either
[10:58] <arunpyasi> ok reisio so what to do next?
[10:58] <reisio> eliesin: just restarting network-manager should do it
[10:59] <eliesin> Yeah, if I /only/ restart networking-manager it's fine.
[10:59] <reisio> arunpyasi: type in the password?
[10:59] <arunpyasi> reisio: done
[10:59] <reisio> eliesin: why wouldn't you only do that? :)
[10:59] <reisio> arunpyasi: that's it
[10:59] <arunpyasi> reisio: now , what should I do here
[10:59] <eliesin> Because I don't know what most effectively represents this other situation, which I can't access right now
[11:00] <reisio> arunpyasi: here?
[11:00] <eliesin> Both are consistent with the symptoms that I've last checked
[11:00] <eliesin> (stop network-manager & networking)
[11:00] <arunpyasi> reisio: I mean in my computer
[11:00] <reisio> eliesin: basically if you're going to primarily or even regularly use wireless, you'd want to deal with networkmanager alone
[11:00] <reisio> eliesin: if you only want wireless, using the static config and service should suffice, but you could also still use networkmanager if you wanted
[11:00] <reisio> still use only, that is
[11:01] <eliesin> Ah, so it's probably "networking" isn't even running? That'd confuse things yeah.
[11:01] <reisio> arunpyasi: hrmm?'
[11:01] <reisio> eliesin: well, networkmanager takes over networking in general, usually
[11:01] <arunpyasi> reisio: what should I do next man ?
[11:01] <reisio> eliesin: it can work in parallel to a certain extent, but generally the purpose of networkMANAGER is to manage it all entirely
[11:01] <reisio> arunpyasi: to accomplish what?
[11:02] <BluesKaj> frankly network manager handles wifi much easier than trying to set it up in the the interfaces file
[11:02] <eliesin> I've usually used netowrkmanager or wicd (before networkmanager was particularly good) on desktops and Debian's networking service on servers
[11:02] <eliesin> *network-manager
[11:02] <arunpyasi> reisio: then how can I connect  to his computer?
[11:02] <reisio> yeah I like wicd, it's lighter and more DE agnostic, but it also is less magical unfortunately, IME :)
[11:02] <eliesin> But I hadn't realized they weren't meant to run simultaneously on Ubuntu, so that explains things.
[11:02] <reisio> for troublesome hardware
[11:02] <reisio> arunpyasi: remmina isn't working?
[11:03] <eliesin> It used to have fewer "magical" issues when it did work at all though
[11:03] <arunpyasi> then how to configure remmina ??
[11:03] <arunpyasi> I don't know man
[11:03] <arunpyasi> it is asking a server
[11:03] <eliesin> Regarding remembering hwo to auto-associate with ssids, etc
[11:03] <reisio> arunpyasi: if the server has a DE, you can use VNC, it takes a user account name and a corresponding password
[11:03] <reisio> arunpyasi: if the server hasn't a DE, you can use SSH, which also takes a user account name and a corresponding password
[11:03] <eliesin> network-manager has been pretty good the last couple of years though.
[11:03] <reisio> arunpyasi: the former requires the VNC server to be running, the latter sshd
[11:03] <arunpyasi> DE mean s?
[11:04] <reisio> arunpyasi: Unity/GNOME/etc.
[11:04] <arunpyasi> yes it has
[11:04] <reisio> okay, then you'd probably want VNC
[11:04] <arunpyasi> reisio: GNOME 3
[11:04] <arunpyasi> then what to do?
[11:04] <reisio> arunpyasi: ...after what?
[11:04] <arunpyasi> after opening VNC
[11:04] <arunpyasi> its asking server , username and password
[11:05] <reisio> server would be the ip address if it isn't fancily configured
[11:05] <reisio> username and password are what you'd expect
[11:06] <arunpyasi> reisio:  u mean , what I can't understand man
[11:06] <reisio> what don't you understand?
[11:06] <arunpyasi> reisio: which Ip adress I should insert in ??
[11:06] <reisio> arunpyasi: that depends :)
[11:07] <arunpyasi> hahhahaha
[11:07] <reisio> arunpyasi: if your friend is around, he can tell you which IP it is
[11:07] <arunpyasi> U mean the public ip address
[11:07] <reisio> either with the 'ip' or 'ifconfig' command, or something like http://www.whatsmyip.org/
[11:07] <reisio> or the server might even have a name you can use instead of an IP
[11:07] <eliesin> reisio: I just tried "stop networking" [on my desktop; this IRC-running machine clearly not the same] and it killed network access regardless of network-manager running.
[11:07] <arunpyasi> reisio: yes ok , will try
[11:07] <eliesin> That suggests they do run simultaneously
[11:08] <reisio> eliesin: run yes
[11:08] <reisio> eliesin: but networkmanager overrides the base configurations
[11:08] <reisio> with its own automagick'd ones
[11:09] <reisio> need to go help people move fish from one aquarium to another :) peace
[11:10] <BluesKaj> eliesin:  the neywork manager settings can be affected by /etc/network/interfaces afaik , dependig on what the settings are of course , and vice versa
[11:11] <arunpyasi> and what is RDP?
[11:11] <eliesin> BluesKaj: alright, so, how does one simulate/recreate whatever happens on boot so that if one has stopped both networking and network-manager one can recover networking sans a restart?
[11:11] <eliesin> remote desktop protocol. Windows-centric, but ubuntu has servers
[11:12] <arunpyasi> man, didn't work
[11:13] <arunpyasi> guys isn't there anything like teamviewer?
[11:13] <eliesin> For some value of "like"
[11:14] <BluesKaj> eliesin:  usually sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:15] <eliesin> "ERROR: Calling a sysvinit script on a system using upstart isn't supported. Please use the 'service' command instead."
[11:15] <eliesin> That's why I've been using "sudo restart networking" and/or "sudo service networking restart" if I want to try that
[11:15] <arunpyasi> guys isn't there anything like teamviewer?
[11:16] <eliesin> But, that's what kill all interfaces but lo
[11:16] <BluesKaj> ok , eliesin,  sudo service networking restart
[11:16] <matthias_arch> hi i have got a python programm problem and i dont get it answered in #python: i have a problem with my bitmessage client programmed in python. i'm using the bitmessageapi to get the inbox messages. The inboxMessages are stored in some lists but i don't know how to display all messages. i can only read defined messages. i need a for loop for this i think but i cant figure out. http://pastebin.com/etbGMpvy i hope the paste can h
[11:16] <eliesin> arunpyasi: yes, for some value of "like". It's a broad question that depends on what precisely you want from a Teamviewer-like system.
[11:16] <matthias_arch> http://paste.pound-python.org/show/fqgEqjbLJZ6drBZQgw27/
[11:18] <eliesin> BluesKaj: as above, that just kills all network interfaces but lo. Which, yeah, fine, that's what' in my /etc/network/interfaces. So, I'd need network-manager back up too. But even "service network-manager stop; service networking stop; service networking start; service network-manager start" doesn't suffice to take down then bring back up eth0 and wlan0 (neither of which are in /etc/network/interfaces(
[11:18] <eliesin> So, that's my question. What happens on boot to actually make this work and how to I replace that without a restart?
[11:19] <eliesin> (I end up with just lo regardless, if I stop "networking" at all)
[11:20] <BluesKaj> eliesin:  sudo dhclient wlan0 for wifi , sudo dhclient eth0 , for ethernet , and that should work with NM as well
[11:21] <eliesin> Can't run dhclient on a nonexistent interface, whether wlan0 or eth0
[11:22] <arunpyasi> eliesin: I want remote access from my home to another country where my friend is
[11:22] <BluesKaj> eliesin:  killing the interefaves obviously needs a reboot then
[11:22] <BluesKaj> interfaces
[11:22] <Equinox3> arunpyasi: try team viewer
[11:24] <arunpyasi> Equinox3: thats not working, it is showing my and my friends id same
[11:25] <eliesin> BluesKaj: http://pastie.org/8362176
[11:25] <Equinox3> then try openvnc
[11:25] <eliesin> BluesKaj: alright, somehow, on bootup, the system (Upstart, I guess, though it uses Sys V init scripts too) manages to bring up networking
[11:26] <jeetpei> Hi All
[11:26] <eliesin> From a state during which neither "networking" nor "network-manager" is running.
[11:26] <eliesin> It's not magic.
[11:27] <jeetpei> can someone help me to understand rn_nml command ?
[11:27] <matthias_arch> hi i have got a python programm problem and i dont get it answered in #python: i have a problem with my bitmessage client programmed in python. i'm using the bitmessageapi to get the inbox messages. The inboxMessages are stored in some lists but i don't know how to display all messages. i can only read defined messages. i need a for loop for this i think but i cant figure out. http://pastebin.com/etbGMpvy i hope the paste can h
[11:27] <matthias_arch> http://paste.pound-python.org/show/fqgEqjbLJZ6drBZQgw27/
[11:28] <BluesKaj> eliesin:  as far as NM is concerned they are one and the same . /etc/networkinterfaces settings are set by network manager when it's active
[11:29] <eliesin> okay, so I should be able to just start network-manager maybe? Trying...
[11:29] <BluesKaj> eliesin:  yes
[11:29] <jeetpei> rn_nml ?
[11:31] <eliesin> BluesKaj: http://pastie.org/8362190
[11:32] <eliesin> A couple of interesting things: (1) I switched the networking & network-manager kill order and apparently killing network kills network-manager. (2) Still only the lo interface
[11:32] <lenzeor> Hey there! I am using an AMD Radeon HD 3450 graphics card and I would like to use the proprietary driver. How do I switch?
[11:32] <eliesin> (I've been restarting in between all these)
[11:33] <eliesin> lenzeor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:33] <bwayne> matthias_arch: try #bitmessage
[11:33] <BluesKaj> eliesin:  so what is your goal here , trying to run with NM for eifi and the interfaces file for ethernet?
[11:33] <faugusztin> lenzeor: HD3450, that is supported only by legacy drivers, no ?
[11:33] <matthias_arch> i want to print out all message and not the predefinded message
[11:34] <lenzeor> faugusztin, I dont know
[11:34] <BluesKaj> eifi=wifi , eliesin
[11:34] <lenzeor> eliesin, there are a few problems I am having with that tutorial
[11:34] <mms> What is the best IDE under Ubuntu to program with Python?
[11:35] <eliesin> BluesKaj: my goal is to understand how to recover from a state (which, in the actual instance is coming from a suspend/resume issue) which under certain circumstances only lists the "lo" interface.
[11:35] <faugusztin> lenzeor: indeed it is only supported by legacy drivers, anything HD2000-HD4000 that is
[11:35] <eliesin> Without restarting. Because if I can figure out that, then it should be possible to work around it. Yeah, there's some other bug. For the moment I don't care
[11:35] <BluesKaj> lenzeor:  do you see any other drivers in "additional drivers"?
[11:35] <faugusztin> lenzeor: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[11:35] <eliesin> So, again, somehow, the boot process manages this fine. How might I figure out what it's doing and/or replicate that?
[11:36] <lenzeor> faugusztin, this means I cannot use accelaration with an up-to-date-kernel?
[11:36] <lenzeor> BluesKaj, no I dont
[11:36] <faugusztin> lenzeor: you will get acceleration, but legacy drivers are not released periodically, only once in a time
[11:36] <BluesKaj> eliesin:  sleep causes more problems than it's worth , sometimers
[11:36] <bwayne> mms: i like pycharm
[11:36] <varunendra> eliesin, are both wifi and ethernet interfaces disappearing after susp/resume ?
[11:36] <eliesin> varunendra: yes
[11:36] <eliesin> Only lo is left.
[11:37] <eliesin> BluesKaj: lid-closing sleep is bad. pm-suspend sleep is good.
[11:37] <eliesin> Consistantly. If you can point out how they differ, that'd be great too.
[11:37] <eliesin> *Consistently
[11:37] <jophish> Yo yo yo
[11:37] <varunendra> eliesin, do you know which cards/drivers you are using?
[11:37] <jophish> What's the recommended way to install haskell-platform on Ubuntu 13.04?
[11:37] <BluesKaj> never bothered with it , eliesin , but I'm a home user
[11:37] <eliesin> Intel's wifi chipset. Can get model number in a moment. But  the iwlwifi driver.
[11:38] <eliesin> eth0 is some other thing and it's also disappearing though.
[11:38] <varunendra> eliesin, have you tried "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" (or "down" then "up") ?
[11:39] <lenzeor> faugusztin, good! How do I install the drivers?
[11:39] <miki> Can anyone say what packages to delete to use normally mate, without the corruption with unity?
[11:39] <eliesin> varunendra: yes. eth0 doesn't exist to be down/up
[11:39] <faugusztin> lenzeor: did you read that launchpad page ? :)
[11:39] <eliesin> (in this state I describe/can trigger)
[11:39] <lenzeor> faugusztin, do I simply apt-get fglrx?
[11:39] <faugusztin> lenzeor: no, read https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[11:39] <lenzeor> okok
[11:40] <faugusztin> you got 4 commands there, from add-apt-repository to apt-get install fglrx-legacy
[11:40] <varunendra> eliesin, if an interface is already down, it won't show up in ifconfig
[11:40] <sinus> hi, i have 2 monitors 1 HDMI and 1 VGA. When I try to use both I get this error message:
[11:40] <matthias_arch> bwayne: nobody is answering
[11:41] <eliesin> BluesKaj: well, so I'm trying, rather than to directly approach the sleep/resume thing, to just stipulate it's screwed up somehow for the moment, and how best to kludge around it. By restarting everything afterwards. But, from a state in which networking has stopped, I haven't yet accomplished that
[11:41] <sinus> "The selected configuration for displays could not be applied"
[11:43] <bwayne> matthias_arch: your problem is unsolvable, apparently. :)  kidding. if i were you, i'd just message around with 'print InboxMessages' for a while.
[11:43] <lenzeor> thanks so much faugusztin I didn't find that page when I first looked
[11:44] <BluesKaj> eliesin:  sorry i couldn't help , but afaik network manager is the culprit here , since it writes to the interfaces and reslv.conf files thereby determining the networking status
[11:44] <eliesin> varunendra: http://pastie.org/8362204
[11:44] <eliesin> yes, it will show up, for a certain definition of "down"
[11:44] <eliesin> if the networking and/or network-manager services are stopped, eth0 and wlan0 simply don't show up at all. so dhclient, ifup/ifdown, etc don't apply
[11:45] <matthias_arch> bwayne: do you understand it? http://paste.pound-python.org/show/fqgEqjbLJZ6drBZQgw27/ here is the console output. i want to display all messages in inbox. in the paste there 2 but how can i get the maximum?
[11:45] <madsy> When installing Ubuntu 13 on a Windows 8 laptop, can UEFI boot mode still be enabled in the BIOS?
[11:45] <eliesin> BluesKaj: ah, well. Will investigate that angle.
[11:46] <bwayne> matthias_arch: how much python do you know?
[11:46] <dakotawulfy> when using xinerama is there a way to make the full screen only go on one monitor ??
[11:46] <matthias_arch> i'm learning for one year, but the list inboxMessages is tricky
[11:46] <varunendra> eliesin, ifup/down and ifconfig up/down are not the same thing. Have you tried ifconfig yet?
[11:47] <lenzeor> faugusztin, do you know if that PPA will work on my 64bit system?
[11:47] <eliesin> ah no. Trying now.
[11:48] <matthias_arch> bwayne: i'm learning for one year, but the list inboxMessages is tricky
[11:48] <varunendra> BluesKaj, eliesin as far as I know, NM doesn't touch the /etc/network/interfaces file. It just reads it to decide which interfaces to manage and which ones not.
[11:49] <bwayne> !uefi | madsy perhaps this will help you
[11:51] <bwayne> matthias_arch: what if 'print inboxMessages.decode('base64')' ?
[11:52] <BluesKaj> varunendra:  I've used both configurations ,and thre NM writes to the interfaces and resolv.conf files at startup if they're empty , and NM won't launch if the settings are incorrect , at least that's my experience.
[11:53] <matthias_arch> bwayne: Traceback (most recent call last):   File "bitmessage.py", line 57, in <module>     print inboxMessages.decode('base64') AttributeError: 'dict' object has no attribute 'decode'
[11:54] <dakotawulfy> can some one help me with xinerama?
[11:54] <varunendra> BluesKaj, with resolvconf package, NM does write the resolv.conf (actually just a symlink now) file, but never the interfaces file. If an interface is mentioned in the interfaces file, NM would simply ignore it by default (if "managed=false" in nm settings, which is default)
[11:54] <eliesin> varunendra: progress. That did work, sort of. I got eth0 & wlan0 back.
[11:54] <varunendra> eliesin, are the networking services stopped?
[11:55] <eliesin> I mean, not right now, since I just rebooted to clear all that state.
[11:55] <varunendra> eliesin, "sudo service networking restart && sudo service network-manager restart"
[11:56] <eliesin> Yeah I did try that, both before and after the ifconfig {eth0,wlan0} up (as two separate commands)
[11:56] <varunendra> eliesin, this script may give us some useful info about your hardware and drivers, (plus many more things but they may not be so useful) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[11:56] <eliesin> Presumably at that point the whole dhclient thing could work again
[11:57] <eliesin> But it would be nice to trigger the GUI widgets to function too
[11:57] <eliesin> Which, somehow the boot process does, so it can't be impossible
[11:58] <bwayne> matthias_arch: well, we know what that means. :-)  what's your goal, again? to show *all* of the messages?
[11:58] <varunendra> eliesin, please give us the pastebin link to the output of the script, it may be useful.
[11:58] <BluesKaj> varunendra:  yeah resolv.conf is now actually /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head or base , but then what's the point of NM if it's set to managed=false, anyway the only reason I use Nm is for vpns etc , otherwise the interfaces file and /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d files suffice without NM in the mix.
[11:58] <Caesar__> Hello, is this channel good to get some personal help? I think i've been hacked
[11:59] <bwayne> Caesar__: we can *try* to help if it's Ubuntu related, and if someone knows and is willing. :)
[11:59] <varunendra> BluesKaj, the point is to avoid conflict. You don't want two different managers managing the same interface. So false means ignore whatever is already in the interfaces file
[12:00] <matthias_arch> bwayne: yes the messages are sorted via this index and if i get the number off the messages i can show all
[12:00] <BluesKaj> varunendra:  I just rtemove NM if I don't need it :)
[12:00] <eliesin> varunendra: coming.
[12:01] <eliesin> BluesKaj: likewise, if I don't need wifi. I've found it more trouble to avoid one of wicd/nm if using wifi.
[12:01] <varunendra> BluesKaj, and the resolv.conf file + interfaces file are more than sufficient if you know how to use them. NM is just to make things easy for those who don't want the old-skool ways ;)
[12:02] <Caesar__> join #ubuntu-ops
[12:03] <lenzeor> faugusztin, Thanks so much, it worked lika a charm!
[12:03] <BluesKaj> yeah , varunendra , eliesin , I use NM for wifi , and if I could figi=ure a method to use openvpn with NM then I probly would
[12:03] <BluesKaj> err without NM Imean,:)
[12:04] <bwayne> matthias_arch: what does 'len(inboxMessages['inboxMessages'])' give you?
[12:04] <eliesin> varunendra: huh, some of that sure has a lot of output I'd usually elide (complete iwlist scan output?)
[12:04] <BluesKaj> eliesin:  , varunendra some internet media streaming services are blocked or not available here in Canada , hence my reliance on vpn
[12:04] <varunendra> eliesin, I forgot to say, the 'alternate' script from the link at the bottom of that post is more verbose :)
[12:05] <varunendra> BluesKaj, I never used VPN so far :D
[12:06] <eliesin> BluesKaj: oh, I've seen other Canadians comment on that oo. Various (completely legal, etc, comedy central, I guess some Netflix stuff, maybe Hulu, probably others etc)  have different Canadian service
[12:06] <matthias_arch> bwayne: it gives 2 as output
[12:06] <matthias_arch> bwayne: and that is the number of the messages currently in the inbox
[12:07] <BluesKaj> eliesin:  yeah netflix is available here now but I'm not particularly impressed with the selection , it's not the same as the US
[12:07] <matthias_arch> bwayne: i will test with 3 messages
[12:07] <mjayk> BluesKaj: proxy
[12:08] <BluesKaj> mjayk:  proxies are too slow for media streams from what i understand
[12:08] <eliesin> That's not an intrinsic property of "proxies" vs "VPNs" though
[12:09] <mjayk> BluesKaj: no some are some are not
[12:09] <eliesin> If you paid $X/month for a "proxy" you could probably find a fast one too
[12:09] <Caesar__> Hi, if i've been hacked, can i someway Report my system log viewer online so that someone can confirm and help me?
[12:09] <Caesar__> and im quite sure of it
[12:09] <mjayk> Caesar__: hacked in what way ?
[12:10] <neomasterofcode> hy
[12:11] <Caesar__> someone has remote acces to my computer
[12:12] <BluesKaj> mjayk:  my vpn service costs $7/mos , and the speed is determined by my ISP not the vpn server, so it works for me
[12:12] <Caesar__> root acces even (?)
[12:12] <rHermes> Testing..
[12:12] <rHermes> Okay, it works.
[12:12] <eliesin> varunendra: http://pastie.org/8362261
[12:12] <mjayk> BluesKaj: it will be determined by whatever the bottleneck is
[12:12] <mjayk> if thats the ISP then its the ISP if its the VPN then its the VPN
[12:12] <eliesin> Took a few minutes to edit out details of my wifi environment :p
[12:12] <BluesKaj> mjayk:  no kidding
[12:13] <mjayk> BluesKaj: indeed i was not
[12:13] <varunendra> eliesin, do you have an account on ubuntuforums.org ? I may not stay much longer here..
[12:13] <eliesin> Not currently, no
[12:14] <Caesar__> like this code.. " Sep 28 13:17:01 wwdaad /USR/SBIN/CRON[15874]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)" This cant be normal right?
[12:14] <Caesar__> from syslog
[12:14] <gordonjcp> Caesar__: what about it?
[12:14] <BluesKaj> mjayk:  tell me something i don't know :)
[12:15] <Myrtti> Caesar__: why wouldn't it be normal?
[12:15] <Caesar__> my codes change and gets deleted and restored
[12:15] <gordonjcp> Caesar__: what codes?
[12:15] <Myrtti> Caesar__: cronjobs are run, that is quite normal
[12:15] <mjayk> BluesKaj: longitudinal phontons can be explined in QED by comuting 11 dimentions over all 4 space time variable then summing over all possible states
[12:16] <mjayk> BluesKaj: thats a copy and paste from the last thesis line I wrote did you know that ?
[12:16] <Caesar__> i see.. so i learn then...
[12:16] <bwayne> mjayk: no normalization needed?
[12:16] <Caesar__> been awake for to long, it looked really "odd"
[12:16] <BluesKaj> :)
[12:16] <Caesar__> damn stimulants
[12:16] <mjayk> bwayne: why would normalisation be needed?
[12:17] <varunendra> eliesin, was that output after triggering the problem? (susp/resume)
[12:17] <mjayk> all your doing is a tensor curl to an elipsoid right you dont need the state value
[12:17] <eliesin> No, that's a control
[12:17] <bwayne> mjayk: ah.
[12:17] <matthias_arch> bwayne: Thank you that was it, everything is working fine now
[12:17] <varunendra> eliesin, ??
[12:18] <eliesin> as in, control group, in a study, etc.
[12:18] <bwayne> matthias_arch: good to know. :) isn't python the best?
[12:18] <eliesin> It's what it looks like fully functioning
[12:18] <eliesin> will get the other in a moment
[12:18] <matthias_arch> bwayne: sure and i like, that you don't need to recompile every time
[12:19] <varunendra> eliesin, is power-management on or off in iwconfig?
[12:19] <bwayne> matthias_arch: ah, recompiling isn't so bad, so long as you have a sane makefile and a shortcut from your editor. :)
[12:19] <neomasterofcode>  hey
[12:20] <neomasterofcode> l
[12:21] <BluesKaj> bwayne:  i've had a lot of trouble compiling due to faulty makefiles , it's no longer an option for me , it;'s just to much trouble
[12:22] <BluesKaj> too
[12:22] <eliesin> varunendra: not sure. But exactly the same thing happens to eth0
[12:22] <eliesin> as to wlan0
[12:22] <bwayne> BluesKaj: a faulty anything will give you too much trouble. :)
[12:23] <BluesKaj> yup
[12:23] <varunendra> eliesin, you are using a development release, so *some* bugs are to be expected. I suggest you try 12.04.3 (recommended) or 13.04 and seek help (preferably on the forums) if they cause same trouble
[12:25] <eliesin> varunendra: the main thing I'm trying to do at this point, and this isn't even really 'troubleshooting' etc, is figure out how the system 'naturally' boots up the networking setup. with, yes, nm, because that's how it works now
[12:25] <VictorCL> hi
[12:25] <VictorCL> ubuntu 12.10 or 13.04 for a webserver , which would be easier to manage ?
[12:26] <eliesin> The conceit of intentionally killing off the networking & network-manager services is mostly a tool to simulate that as reasonably as possible
[12:26] <eliesin> Which itself is a proxy for a suspend/resume issue on another computer, which is my actual target. But troubleshooting that's clearly not happening. So.
[12:26] <varunendra> eliesin, the most common reason for the kind of problem you are facing is improper power management - in driver's code, firmware or the OS itself.
[12:27] <varunendra> eliesin, stopping/starting network services can do nothing about stuck driver/firmware issues.
[12:27] <mjayk> varunendra: 12.04
[12:27] <eliesin> Including eth0 though?
[12:28] <eliesin> Which, well, isn't wifi, etc (per your iwconfig question)
[12:28] <eliesin> Oh, I'm sure there's some issue. And I'm trying to work around it.
[12:28] <eliesin> Because troubleshooting it doesn't look particularly tenable directly.
[12:29] <varunendra> eliesin, the driver/firmware/power-management thing applies to each and every device and driver, not just wifi. But yes, it is somewhat uncommon with ethernet devices.
[12:30] <eliesin> My things here don't involve actual sleep/resume at all, by the way. And I'm on AC. So power management shouldn't be interfering. I think. But, it's always possible.
[12:30] <varunendra> eliesin, you can try manually removing --> reloading the pertaining drivers, while the network services are running
[12:30] <eliesin> it's intentionally a sort of all-else-preserved situation. If the entire rest of the system, but network is running, how can one bring up networking
[12:30] <eliesin> Because if I can't do that it doesn't matter if there are driver, firmware, issues
[12:30] <varunendra> eliesin, you said it kicks in when you suspend/resume? Is it not the case?
[12:31] <eliesin> Well, the actual target, yeah, it's a suspend/resume issue. And sudo pm-suspend works fine but lid closing/opening kills networking.
[12:31] <eliesin> So if you know how those differ...
[12:31] <eliesin> But, I can replicate the symptons without suspend/resume at all
[12:31] <eliesin> *symptoms
[12:32] <varunendra> eliesin, unless someone has exactly same experience and knows the exact reason, there are so many factors involved that you can't expect to study them all in one (whole) day.
[12:33] <eliesin> Yeah, well, that's why I'm avoiding the suspend/resume stuff. Because troubleshooting it is hairy and device-dependent and etc.
[12:33] <eliesin> So, take a perfectly working system, kill networking, don't suspend, don't resume, don't let power management kick in inasmuch as is possible, and at least be able to bring up networking
[12:33] <eliesin> again, the boot process does it. So, I'm just trying to replicate that at this point. That's all.
[12:35] <varunendra> eliesin, I'm a bit lost. You are avoiding suspend/resume. Then when do the interfaces go down?
[12:35] <eliesin> Well, on suspend/resume. But see my comments about troubleshooting that.
[12:36] <varunendra> too scattered, hard to read on IRC (my xchat is too verbose)
[12:36] <eliesin> I should say, also, that suspend/resume works fine /on this machine/
[12:37] <eliesin> Okay, the actual, ultimate, problem I'm trying to solve is on another computer (but very similar actually. Also iwlwifi and same ethernet driver I believe) where it occurs during certain very consistent and deterministic suspend/resumes. sudo pm-suspend works but lid-closing/opening kills networking upon resume.
[12:38] <BluesKaj> eliesin:  i know it's no consolation for your issue , but power management in the latest ubuntus seems to suffer from benign neglect..even my desktop settings don't seem to work :(
[12:38] <eliesin> However, because figuring out what's happening there looks semi-infeasible, I gave up. I'm totally happy to rig in something to /etc/sleep.d/ which just forces networking to wake up. Which is all that is broken.
[12:39] <eliesin> The state it leaves that in is that only the loopback interface is running. So I'm trying to figure out how to recover the variations of that the I can identify.
[12:39] <eliesin> Regardless of how it got into that state. Firmware & driver issues are possible but probably not too severe because sudo pm-suspend does work.
[12:40] <eliesin> BluesKaj: that is unfortunate, yeah.
[12:40] <eliesin> So, varunendra, I'm resorting to 'simulating' the issue. Thus, the semi-artificial setup.
[12:41] <BluesKaj> eliesin:  looks like you're getting close to a solution tho
[12:41] <eliesin> Yeah, varunendra's pointing out ifconfig <interface> was actually really helpful
[12:41] <varunendra> eliesin, with the amount of comments/doubts you have, I suggest you open an account on ubuntuforums.org and post your quention with all the details there. A conversation there would be much more comprehensive and fruitful to all
[12:41] <varunendra> question*
[12:42] <eliesin> varunendra: probably a good idea, yeah.
[12:42] <eliesin> I actually might be all the way there if maybe I restart wpa_supplement & figure out how to restart the GUI widgets and whatever backend they use
[12:43] <eliesin> *wpa_supplicant
[12:43] <BluesKaj> yeah , I hope this is resolved soon , because my daughter is finally sending my laptop back to me and I'd like to put kubuntu on it :)
[12:44] <eliesin> Yeah, it's nice. My preference as well... Actually, this works fine on the computer I'm typing it on, so you might not hit it
[12:44] <eliesin> Including all this suspend/resume networking
[12:45] <varunendra> eliesin, wpa_supplicant is controlled by NM if you are using it. It does not need to be controlled manually, and probably shouldn't be unless you remove NM altogether
[12:45] <eliesin> okay, so it's just the GUI widgets
[12:45] <eliesin> I am using it, yes
[12:46] <varunendra> eliesin, the kernel you are on is good (3.11) but the overall system (saucy) may be too buggy yet. It is not worth putting too much efforts in it.
[12:46] <eliesin> It's supposed to be released in a month
[12:47] <varunendra> eliesin, it may see a huge no. of changes even 1 night before its release
[12:47] <eliesin> Also, 13.04 (which I used before) had severe intel graphics card issues where it'd hang (well-documented, etc, though I don't have LP bug #s handy; hang-check timer in dmesg is search term)
[12:48] <eliesin> Nouveau isn't a real option because as of 3.11 even it doesn't do fan management
[12:48] <eliesin> they talked about that at XDC2013, but not yet
[12:48] <varunendra> eliesin, that's why I said kernel is good. There are many improvements in its drivers. But you can use these (backported) drivers even on 12.04 if needed.
[12:49] <eliesin> Ah, right. That's a reasonable option, yeah.
[12:51] <eliesin> I'll admit that 13.04, even, ran totally fine except for that. kscreen's nicer now though...
[12:52] <varunendra> eliesin, people using a development release are supposed to 'Provide' help by finding and reporting bugs/feedbacks. So there may be too many 'experimental' things in it, until it is officially released for public use.
[12:53] <eliesin> Well, alright. That's partly why I've tried to frame this not as troubleshooting as such but 'start from no networking, how does one add networking to an otherwise running system as the boot process does'
[12:53] <eliesin> Which I can guarantee does work, even on 13.10
[12:55] <icetea> hi
[12:55] <eliesin> ah, "./network/if-pre-up.d/wireless-tools:127:       ifconfig "$IFACE" up" and "./wpa_supplicant/functions.sh:1004:             ifconfig "$WPA_IFACE" up"
[12:56] <eliesin> Okay, so what you described is definitely part of the process
[12:56] <BluesKaj> eliesin:  actually 13.10 beta 2 is very solid here , KDE user here so my experience may be different
[12:57] <eliesin> KDE here also. I agree, it's solid. I jumped onto 13.10 probably a bit too early, but for the last month or so it's been good
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> kde here, too, very nice, swift and fast
[12:58] <varunendra> BluesKaj, eliesin 'experimental' doesn't necessarily mean 'broken' ;P
[12:58] <varunendra> it has to be solid enough before it is 'proven' and included in the upstream
[12:59] <sssssssss> hi!
[12:59] <sssssssss> I have shitty sound on xubuntu !! acer aspire one, noone can solve the problem ! please help me <3
[12:59] <isabelle> hello everyone, I have some little trouble with my keyboard
[13:00] <FiremanEd> !language | sssssssss
[13:00] <isabelle> sometimes, the keys stop working
[13:00] <eliesin> Are you sure it's a software problem?
[13:00] <cfhowlett> isabelle, bluetooth?
[13:00] <isabelle> no, it's my laptop keyboard (very annoying)
[13:00] <cfhowlett> isabelle, and try a different keyboard.  they do get dirty and they do break
[13:00] <sssssssss> should i rename with female nick to be considered ? ^^
[13:01] <cfhowlett> isabelle, cleaned it lately?
[13:01] <cfhowlett> ssssssss   don't know about the nick, but the profanity will earn you a big ignore
[13:01] <isabelle> it's clean but the problem is present since the installation of ubuntu, but now I want to fix it
[13:02] <eliesin> 's'*9: your pitch wasn't very attractive. Vague problem, seemed kind of unsatisfying. High chance of hardware issues.
[13:03] <eliesin> Also I reacted poorly to "!!" and "<3".
[13:03] <cfhowlett> isabelle see your system settings for keyboard sensitivity.  what's the make/model on your lappy?
[13:03] <eliesin> If you want honesty...
[13:04] <isabelle> to be more complete in my description I need to say: most of the time, keyboard works perfectly, and at one moment, all the keyboard is inactive, I reboot and this is fixed, sometimes I need two reboot
[13:05] <isabelle> my laptop is a Packard Bell EasyNote
[13:05] <Leila> u'll react to that to
[13:05] <Leila> misters nerds
[13:05] <Leila> #care
[13:05] <Leila> ^^
[13:05] <eliesin> Yeah, I do.
[13:06] <isabelle> I don't know how find the exact reference I'm sorry
[13:06] <varunendra> isabelle, does the pointer work? Menu options etc. ?
[13:06] <isabelle> absolutly no keys work, touchpad doesn't work too
[13:07] <isabelle> (sorry for my english, I'm french)
[13:07] <cfhowlett> !fr
[13:07] <varunendra> isabelle, so that's something we call "System Freeze", which is not a problem specific to just keyboard
[13:07] <isabelle> ok but I can speak in english and understand answer
[13:08] <Aussie_matt> Hi all. Can anyone help troubleshoot why I can't upload my commits to github?
[13:08] <varunendra> isabelle, which version of Ubuntu are you using? And since when is the current installation working?
[13:08] <isabelle> but I still can use my USB mouse, if I'm plugin an USB keybord, it works and all the system work (except laptop keyboard) so are you sure this is a system freeze?
[13:09] <Wiz_KeeD> can someone tell me why this happened? http://pastie.org/8362355
[13:09] <bwayne> Aussie_matt: what sort of error are you getting?
[13:09] <varunendra> isabelle, nope, it is not then
[13:09] <Znoosey> Aussie_matt: there is also #github which might be a more appropriate channel
[13:09] <isabelle> maybe it's keyboard driver?
[13:10] <varunendra> isabelle, so both the laptop keyboard + touchpad stop working, then you plug-in the external ones, and they work (the external ones)?
[13:10] <isabelle> varunendra, yes exacty
[13:10] <Aussie_matt> bwayne: Hi. Ok, so I forked a project, cloned it to my local drive the other day. Today, I modify the readme. then I run git push origin master, it asks for ssh key (i dont have) enter username, then asks for ssh key (i dont have) enter password...then it responds :up to date, but nothing has changed on git hub
[13:10] <jboii> hi
[13:11] <varunendra> isabelle, can you trigger this problem at your wish? So we can test something?
[13:11] <jboii> how can i have a menu panel on bottom?
[13:11] <Aussie_matt> Znoosey: been there, no response
[13:11] <jboii> i have seen people on deviant art have these nice themes
[13:11] <nickname27> Hi, I have a router related question. But Since I run ubuntu, thing is I'm able to ping the internet from my box, but when I ssh into the router, i cannot ping the internet. It's weird. Any idea why this is happening?
[13:11] <bwayne> Aussie_matt: what does 'ssh -T git@github.com' say?
[13:12] <jboii> http://mmesantos1.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-10-10-Gnome-White-Cutout-270035639
[13:12] <isabelle> varunendra, badly no, it's not reproductible as I want
[13:12] <nickname27> ..and yes, I'm accessing the internet through the router.
[13:12] <Flak> you cannot ping... the internet
[13:12] <jboii> can someone help me in private chat?
[13:12] <Flak> define "the internet"
[13:12] <nickname27> I mean, say ping 8.8.8.8
[13:12] <nickname27> =P
[13:12] <varunendra> isabelle, are you familiar with "xinput" command?
[13:12] <nickname27> or any valid ip on the itnernet.
[13:12] <eliesin> nickname27: that's all up to the bridging, etc setup. It's definitely possible to set up firewall, forwarding, iptables, etc that way.
[13:12] <nickname27> internet*
[13:12] <Flak> are you using a known valid ip, and are you pinging by ip or hostname?
[13:12] <bekks> jboii: How about desicribing your problem publicly?
[13:13] <isabelle> varunendra, I have ear about but never use it
[13:13] <nickname27> eliesin, I was thinking that would be the case, but I flushed all the iptables rules too.
[13:13] <jboii> i am trying to make my desktop look like that picture i posted link to
[13:13] <nickname27> Flak, I'm pinging just the ip.
[13:13] <jboii> panel on top and bottom
[13:14] <eliesin> Well, but also if your forwarding chain only comes from e.g. an external interface and not lo
[13:14] <cfhowlett> jboii, look close.  every piece of additional software is listed for your use
[13:14] <cfhowlett> with links, no less
[13:14] <varunendra> isabelle, what I was expecting to test is - do the internal keypad/touchpad appear in the output if you just type "xinput" (using external kb of course)?
[13:15] <varunendra> isabelle, so which version are you using currently?
[13:16] <jboii> is there an app that adds a panel on bottom ?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> jboii, conky
[13:17] <isabelle> varunendra, http://dpaste.com/1398989/ this is the output of the command, is there the information that you want?
[13:17] <nickname27> eliesin, iptables is wiped clean, from the inside box (ubuntu) i'm also able to ping an internet ip like, an box on the local network outside mine. But not from the router. =/
[13:17] <nickname27> like for example, 10.10.100.1
[13:18] <nickname27> internal*
[13:18] <Flak> ooh an internet internet protocal
[13:18] <Flak> :3
[13:18] <nickname27> I have the gateway set up the same for the router as well as my box.
[13:19] <eliesin> iptables isn't just a firewall. it's not necessarily desireable to have it wiped clean. I'm not sure how you have it set up, but some of these kinds of setups actually use iptables forwarding chains. in which case, clearing iptables doesn't help.
[13:19] <varunendra> isabelle, which version of Ubuntu are you on? (outputs of "lsb_release -d" and "uname -mr")
[13:20] <isabelle> 3.8.0-31-generic x86_64
[13:20] <eliesin> But, again, it's all dependent on details, etc.
[13:20] <naresh_> Any Media Player for Ubuntu 13.04 to play MPEG & blue ray
[13:20] <naresh_> ???
[13:20] <naresh_> Suggestion
[13:20] <varunendra> isabelle, and "lsb_release -d" ?
[13:21] <isabelle> Ubuntu 13.04
[13:21] <wylde> !restricted | naresh
[13:22] <piglit> i need a simple picture editor like i need to place a cross and a text on a picture what do i need to install ?
[13:22] <varunendra> isabelle, note down these commands (copy-paste) and next time it happens, try them -
[13:22] <varunendra> xinput --float "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard"
[13:23] <nickname27> eliesin, oh, darn! Guess I will have to look deeper into the default iptable rules, thanks for your time.
[13:23] <isabelle> varunendra, ok done, and what is supposed to happen?
[13:24] <varunendra> isabelle, that will disable your laptop's keyboard (already disabled, yeah, I know). Then to re-enable it -
[13:24] <varunendra> xinput --reattach "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" "Virtual core keyboard"
[13:25] <bekks> varunendra: How do you enable it after disabling it - without typing a command? ;)
[13:25] <william> guys which is the best server for cloud storage for UK high speed
[13:25] <varunendra> bekks, they have an external keyboard that works in that state
[13:25] <cfhowlett> !best
[13:26] <isabelle> varunendra, ok but this is some kind of workaround no? is there a way to fix the problem?
[13:27] <varunendra> isabelle, consider it a test. If the problem some hardware issue or something more serious at kernel level, it won't work.
[13:28] <isabelle> varunendra, ok I will remember it, I wil come back with the resut
[13:28] <isabelle> varunendra, thanks a lot for your help
[13:28] <varunendra> isabelle, on the other hand, if it works, there may be some minor issue that should be automatically fixed with updates..
[13:28] <varunendra> np :)
[13:29] <karab44> hello
[13:30] <isabelle> varunendra, I have ubuntu since version 12.04 and no updates had never changed this problem, do you think this information exclude the minor issue thesis?
[13:30] <cfhowlett> karab44, greetings
[13:30] <eliesin> Huh, "% sudo grep -rIn if_post_down_up /etc" only returns "/etc/wpa_supplicant/functions.sh:999:if_post_down_up () {". Any idea what calls it?
[13:30] <varunendra> isabelle, maybe.
[13:31] <karab44> How to disable some system shortkeys when particular program is focused and these shortkeys are in conflict?
[13:31] <isabelle> varunendra, ok ok I will try your test
[13:31] <varunendra> isabelle, but that indicates something wrong at hardware level
[13:33] <mydog2> morn
[13:33] <varunendra> isabelle, have you tried a fresh install or upgraded all the way to 13.04?
[13:34] <isabelle> varunendra, no I didn't want to loose all my settings and software
[13:35] <varunendra> isabelle, how frequently the problem occurs? Everyday? Every few hours?
[13:37] <isabelle> varunendra, after 2-3 days powered on
[13:38] <varunendra> isabelle, well... I was thinking of advising you to try live session,... but.... well.... :P
[13:40] <isabelle> varunendra, maybe I can if it is really necessary
[13:41] <eliesin> varunendra: looks like "networking" runns pretty much always: "start on ... runlevel [2345]"
[13:41] <eliesin> *runs
[13:41] <eliesin> nm or no
[13:41] <varunendra> isabelle, not necessary, just to test (if something bad in you x-server carried across upgrades..). But 2-3 days on live session is probably too much.
[13:41] <isabelle> varunendra, ok
[13:42] <varunendra> eliesin, [2345]? Like 2 OR 3 OR 4... ??
[13:42] <eliesin> Yeah, that's the syntax they use, it seems.
[13:43] <varunendra> eliesin, I think I've seen only 0-6, maybe 7, so it is almost all the runlevels ;P
[13:43] <eliesin> Exactly. :p
[13:43] <eliesin> 0 or 1 is single-user mode I think, so it doesn't turn on then
[13:44] <eliesin> (i.e. one of 0 or 1. I don't remember which)
[13:44] <yeehi> I try to use the software center to install proprietary nvidia graphics drivers. The installation seems to go OK, but on reboot, I have a black screen with a cursor in the corner. It is not a command line. What did I do wrong?
[13:48] <eliesin> Also sort of puzzlingly, the only "ifconfig <foo that's not 127.0.0.1> up" instances I can find in /etc are firmly associated with Wifi, not ethernet. I guess NetworkManager does it on its own, maybe...
[13:49] <lenti> no one speak?
[13:49] <eliesin> (but then why not with Wifi.)
[13:49] <mrdeb> what is ubuntu convergance in 14.05
[13:49] <mrdeb> 04
[13:50] <bekks> mrdeb: There is no development on 14.04 yet.
[13:51] <lenti> no one speak?
[13:51] <mrdeb> so it will get rid of fragment of gnome and have one single unity
[13:51] <mrdeb> is that it
[13:53] <varunendra> eliesin, what instances? Where did you find them in /etc ?
[13:53] <eliesin> http://pastie.org/8362431
[13:54] <eliesin> /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wireless-tools and /etc/wpa_supplicant/functions.sh-1000 handle wifi only and /etc/init/network-interface.conf uses it as a lo fallback
[13:55] <lenti> what?
[13:55] <cfhowlett> !topic|lenti,
[13:57] <petersaints> hi guys. How do I install Secure Boot support on an install that was installed with UEFI with Secure Boot turned off?
[13:57] <bibic682> anyone.....will xubuntu run smooth on a single core amd64 752 pin based pc..2g of ram
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> bibic682  use a live cd or usb toi find out, don't have to install
[13:58] <cfhowlett> bibic682, sounds about right ... lubuntu and xubuntu are optimized for low spec machines
[13:58] <bibic682> I'm downloading iso as we type
[13:58] <petersaints> bibic682: I think Xubuntu will work ok
[13:59] <petersaints> depending on the graphics card, even Ubuntu may run relatively well
[14:00] <bibic682> will report back later
[14:01] <bibic682> 10.10 ran great... but no longer supported  :(
[14:01] <winb> why not 12.04
[14:04] <usr13_> bibic682: Are you downloading 12.04?
[14:05] <bibic682> 13.04
[14:05] <lenti> want to go to sleep,bye
[14:05] <Ari-Yang> bibic682, just in case... 13.04 is not LTS
[14:06] <petersaints> bibic682: Next LTS will be 14.04.
[14:06] <bibic682> thats ok if it runs well I will change over to lts
[14:08] <abdel> hello please is there any software i can install to design professional logos
[14:08] <cfhowlett> abdel, blender or inkscape
[14:08] <mrrcp> abdel: GIMP?
[14:10] <excognac> hi all. anybody knows how to stop testdisk copying files from an unallocated internal hdd partition (ext4) to an external hdd? after successfully rescueing a few files it doesn't seem to continue so I wanna try to save files/directories one by one
[14:14] <excognac> in other words, will i risk my external hdd if i close the terminal window while sudo testdisk is writing on it? I'm using a live-cd now.
[14:18] <andrewvos> Anyone know of a theme manager for gnome-terminal?
[14:18] <loki__> how i can recieve focused title of window and minimize it if it windows what i need to minimize.
[14:18] <loki__> window *
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> loki__  that question is hard to understand
[14:20] <loki__> MonkeyDust, yeah i understand that i am bad at that. I want to minimize window in focused on my trigger (it will be triggered by opencv)
[14:20] <loki__> so i need to understand how i can do this?
[14:21] <loki__> in windows there are very simple api function.
[14:23] <wylde> !info wmctrl | loki__
[14:24] <mrdeb> is MIR better than X
[14:25] <mrrcp> ?
[14:25] <Dau`gone> How can I convert a pdf into an editable for mat in libreoffice?
[14:25] <cfhowlett> !ot|mrdeb,   polls and opinions are best held in the off-topic channel
[14:26] <mrdeb> so what is this for
[14:26] <cfhowlett> mrdeb, if you have a specific support request, please present the problem details
[14:26] <cfhowlett> !topic|mrdeb,
[14:29] <ItsMeLenny> where do all the packages download to from synaptic?
[14:30] <ikonia> ItsMeLenny: the apt-cache directory where they are unpacked and deployed to the correct places
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> ItsMeLenny  /usr/bin/
[14:31] <ItsMeLenny> no, it was /var/cache/apt/archives
[14:31] <ItsMeLenny> but tanks anyway
[14:34] <xeeder> whats the best tool for partition? people often say fdisk is best; should i use fdisk?
[14:35] <cowbacon> xeeder: depends. if youre not familiar with partions i'd recommend gparted
[14:36] <bullicon> help
[14:36] <bullicon> i just got a new lenovo ideapad u310
[14:36] <BlitzHere> Hi all
[14:36] <bullicon> it comes with windows 8, cleared it and installed ubuntu 12.04
[14:36] <bullicon> but it won't load
[14:36] <BlitzHere> So, my network applet disappeared
[14:37] <bullicon> it attempts to Diagnose the PC
[14:37] <BlitzHere> sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[14:37] <BlitzHere> That didn't work
[14:37] <Adi_Saputa> hello all
[14:37] <BlitzHere> apt-get can't find nm-applet or network-manager-applet
[14:38] <BlitzHere> Can anyone help?
[14:38] <cfhowlett> bullicon, "it won't load ..." ???
[14:38] <bullicon> it won't load Ubuntu
[14:38] <bullicon> cfhowlett it installs fine
[14:38] <bullicon> but it won't load Ubuntu or grub
[14:38] <cfhowlett> bullicon, error messages?
[14:38] <bullicon> it just shows Lenovo Preparing Automatic Repair
[14:38] <bullicon> no none
[14:39] <fluo75> Hi, where should I post print-screen of my Ubuntu kernel crash?
[14:39] <cfhowlett> bullicon, this is a newer computer?  2011 or later
[14:39] <cfhowlett> !paste|fluo75,
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> bullicon  we need more details
[14:39] <BlitzHere> bullicon: What's your boot setup like?
[14:39] <cfhowlett> !details|bullicon,
[14:40] <bullicon> ok details
[14:40] <bullicon> Boot mode: Legacy Support
[14:40] <bullicon> Boot Priority UEFI First
[14:40] <bullicon> it has to ATA SSD1 and ATA HDD, installed Ubuntu in SSD1
[14:41] <bullicon> and its the first on Boot Priority Order
[14:41] <bekks> bullicon: Please form a full sentence describing your problem.
[14:42] <bullicon> ok I just unboxed a Lenovo Ideapad U310 that comes with Windows 8, I cleared Windows and installed Ubuntu 12.04 form a usb stick.
[14:42] <Vivekananda> I had a utility in ccsm where when I went to a corner of the screen I could see all the open apps. in ubuntu desktop 12.04 I installed ccsm butI dont know how to get the same functionality. Also how do I get the water effects ?
[14:42] <bullicon> but when I restart the latptop, it doesn't boot into Ubuntu but, into Lenovo Automatic Repari
[14:43] <Vivekananda> bullicon: did you partition drives ?
[14:43] <Vivekananda> I just did something similar
[14:43] <Vivekananda> I dual boot
[14:44] <bullicon> ok, I just changed the Boot Order to UEIF and its boot up Ubuntu
[14:44] <varunendra> Vivekananda, for water effect, you'll need to install "compiz-plugins-extra"
[14:44] <BlitzHere> bullicon: You beat me to it. I couldn't boot in legacy mode either. Only UEFI worked
[14:45] <Vivekananda> thanks varunendra
[14:45] <bullicon> BlitzHere strange thing is I couldnt install ubuntu until I switched to legacy mode
[14:45] <Vivekananda> also what about the screen corner apps showup ?
[14:45] <andrewvos> Does everyone here use gnome-terminal? Seems pretty shit that there's no way to change themes :(
[14:45] <andrewvos> Well, easily
[14:45] <ikonia> andrewvos: there is no need for that language
[14:45] <bullicon> I have about 5 partitions here, I need to know which is which :)
[14:45] <andrewvos> ikonia: Oops, sorry
[14:45] <ikonia> !guidelines > andrewvos
[14:45] <BlitzHere> bullicon: Had the same issue. The EFI partition install failed for me
[14:46] <varunendra> Vivekananda, and for the 'Scale' effect, you may not be able to see all apps from 'All' desktops, although the option is there, it doesn't seem to work as expected. ymmv
[14:46] <bullicon> BlitzHere are you on lenovo as well ?
[14:46] <BlitzHere> No, dell vostro 3560
[14:46] <bwayne> Vivekananda: I've found that gnome-tweak is easier to setup hot-corners. ccsm consistently crashes on me, leaving me without my beloved hot corners.
[14:46] <yeehi>  I try to install proprietary nvidia drivers using the software centre. The installation seems to go OK, but on reboot, there is a black screen with a cursor. It is not a command line. What did I do wrong?
[14:46] <Vivekananda> aha so the scale effect
[14:46] <Vivekananda> I have gnome tweak
[14:47] <Vivekananda> bwayne: what is the windows manager when I have ubuntu desktop ? is it unity ?
[14:47] <xeeder> can i triple boot with windows 8+<name of OS>+Ubuntu? is it possible?
[14:47] <zykotick9> andrewvos: what is a "theme" for a terminal exactly?  you can edit the "profile" pretty easily from the menu?
[14:47] <yeehi> How do I get invited to ubuntu-beginners?
[14:47] <varunendra> Vivekananda, ccsm > windows management > Scale > bindings > initiate windows picker for all windows
[14:47] <andrewvos> zykotick9: Well, I would like a way to change terminal colours easily.
[14:48] <zykotick9> andrewvos: edit your profile.
[14:48] <cfhowlett> andrewvos, profile !
[14:48] <bwayne> Vivekananda: unity is actually a compiz plugin, IIRC.
[14:48] <bwayne> Vivekananda: you want ubuntu-tweak
[14:48] <Vivekananda> varunendra: interesting name :). so I dont see the ccsm extras on the repo
[14:48] <andrewvos> zykotick9: Yeah I was hoping for something more. Copying and pasting twenty colours into a window isn't fun.
[14:49] <varunendra> bwayne, Vivekananda not frequently, but sometimes (once every two months maybe) compiz does crash for me too. I've just saved the desired profile and reloading it fixes it
[14:49] <varunendra> Vivekananda, it is compiz-plugins-extra
[14:49] <xeeder> actually i wanted to triple boot with ubuntu, hackintosh and windows 8.
[14:49] <bwayne> varunendra: it crashed on my like a paper airplane.
[14:49] <andrewvos> zykotick9: https://github.com/chriskempson/tomorrow-theme/blob/master/Gnome-Terminal/setup-theme.sh
[14:49] <cfhowlett> xeeder, whoa?  your lenovo can do that?  got a tutorial?
[14:49] <Vivekananda> bwayne where do I get it from ?
[14:49] <andrewvos> zykotick9: Looks like people resort to writing shell scripts.
[14:49] <Vivekananda> varunendra: it is not in the repo
[14:50] <BlitzHere> So, can anyone help with my missing Network applet? Ubuntu 13.04. I can't remembering doing anything to make it disappear
[14:50] <varunendra> bwayne, wow ! Paper plane is an extra effect in it ;)
[14:50] <xeeder> cfhowlett, i am using dell n5110
[14:50] <Vivekananda> varunendra: got it !
[14:50] <andrewvos> BlitzHere: Running unity?
[14:50] <varunendra> Vivekananda, using Software Center?
[14:50] <cfhowlett> xeeder, OK ... 100% functionality with what OSX?
[14:50] <BlitzHere> andrewvos: Yes
[14:50] <andrewvos> BlitzHere: Weird. try launch nm-applet
[14:51] <bwayne> varunendra: yeah, that one doesn't work for me, either. LOL
[14:51] <bullicon> ok, I have multiple ubuntu installations here :(
[14:51] <bullicon> can I delete others without going through installation step again?
[14:51] <xeeder> well i was going through x86 forums and i really liked the eye candy look of macOS; but i am not sure if its possible to boot with 3 OSes
[14:52] <ImQ009_> Soooo
[14:52] <cfhowlett> xeeder, I had win7, ubuntu and OSX on my Dell 1545 ... tis possible
[14:52] <ImQ009_> Apparantely Ubuntu did something to my BIOS
[14:52] <ImQ009_> That the only option shown in boot menu is "ubunut"
[14:52] <bekks> ImQ009_: It cant. Technically.
[14:52] <ImQ009_> "ubuntu"*
[14:53] <ImQ009_> There are no devices listed anymore
[14:53] <bekks> ImQ009_: Thats not the BIOS, but the bootloader boot menu.
[14:53] <ImQ009_> bekks, How is this possibble?
[14:53] <ImQ009_> There are LITERALLY no storage devices in my computer atm
[14:53] <bekks> ImQ009_: You told your bootloader to overwrite al other entries.
[14:53] <ImQ009_> NO HDD
[14:54] <ImQ009_> No pendrives
[14:54] <Vivekananda> varunendra: yep and I installed extras but how do I see the water effect. I can see paint fire but nothing of the water
[14:54] <ImQ009_> No nothing
[14:54] <BlitzHere> andrewvos: So, I installed gnome-network-manager. And ran nm-applet. The Network applet turns up but then it disappears when I close terminal
[14:54] <FloodBot1> ImQ009_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:54] <andrewvos> BlitzHere: Yeah it will do
[14:54] <ImQ009_> How can I fix this?
[14:54] <andrewvos> BlitzHere: Did you have network-manager uninstalled?!?
[14:54] <andrewvos> gnome-network-manager*
[14:55] <varunendra> Vivekananda, did you restart ccsm? It should be under "Effects"
[14:55] <bekks> ImQ009_: If you dont even have a bootable device - you dont have an ubuntu then :)
[14:55] <Freeder> Hi, does anyone have experience connecting to unix sockets with netcat? Is there anything 'wierd' I need to do, besides use the -U flag? I keep gettign disconnected everytime I send a command
[14:55] <BlitzHere> andrewvos: I don't remember doing that. I just came back and opened the lapotp....It must have happened sometime before.
[14:55] <BlitzHere> So, how do I make it stay?
[14:55] <BlitzHere> Do I just reboot?
[14:55] <andrewvos> BlitzHere: That is weird. Anyway nm-applet should run automatically when you reboot
[14:55] <ImQ009_> bekks, I don't think you understand the issue though :P
[14:55] <Vivekananda> varunendra: how do I restart
[14:55] <andrewvos> BlitzHere: If it doesn't then ask someone who has been using ubuntu for more than a few days :)
[14:55] <ImQ009_> The menu in which you select the device to boot from
[14:55] <ImQ009_> Doesn't work
[14:55] <bekks> ImQ009_: Unless you have an ubuntu in question, which could be configured - its not an ubuntu issue.
[14:55] <Vivekananda> login and out ? or reboot ?
[14:56] <BlitzHere> andrewvos: Are there any logs for install and uninstall? I want to see what killed it?
[14:56] <andrewvos> BlitzHere: Or maybe just login again
[14:56] <eliesin> Why might stopping "networking" kill half the running dbus processes? One of the KDE dbus bridges and one of the system aspects
[14:56] <andrewvos> BlitzHere: No idea
[14:56] <ImQ009_> bekks, I don't even....
[14:56] <ImQ009_> I can't even access BIOS
[14:56] <andrewvos> BlitzHere: You could jsut type `history` in a terminal though
[14:56] <eliesin> It's possible to ressurect it, sort of, but the weird mix creates problems
[14:56] <andrewvos> BlitzHere: Will show you the recent commands
[14:56] <varunendra> Vivekananda, I meand just close ccsm and reopen
[14:56] <bekks> ImQ009_: Then you dont have an Ubuntu issue, if you dont even have a device to boot ubuntu from.
[14:56] <Vivekananda> where is the "Effects" ?
[14:57] <andrewvos> BlitzHere: history | grep remove
[14:57] <ImQ009_> bekks, The issue appeared after the installation of Ubuntu
[14:57] <Vivekananda> let me re log in
[14:57] <zykotick9> BlitzHere: apt keeps a log in /var/log/apt/history.log
[14:57] <ImQ009_> I genuinely don't know what to do at this fucking point
[14:57] <eliesin> I noticed this because "start network-manager" silently failes/zombies that process unless I've restarted dbus first
[14:57] <ImQ009_> I literally cannot access BIOS
[14:58] <ImQ009_> And the BIOS boot menu that used to list bootable devices
[14:58] <ImQ009_> Shows "ubuntu"
[14:58] <faugusztin> ImQ009_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/322046/how-can-i-fix-my-uefi-boot-menu-after-installing-ubuntu
[14:58] <ImQ009_> Even though there are no devices at all
[14:58] <andrewvos> BlitzHere: Anyway I just came in here to get some help, laters.
[14:59] <Biomechd> hey, i'm trying to stream music from my desktop to my laptop via wlan, but rhythmbox isn't producing any sound, and each second of the song is like 4 seconds real time. what's wrong?
[14:59] <ImQ009_> faugusztin, Thanks. I actually don't think my lappy has UEFI
[14:59] <ImQ009_> But apparantely it does?
[14:59] <ImQ009_> Kind of odd
[14:59] <eliesin> So that's probably the big difference between the stop network-manager; stop networking; start networking; start network-manager and restart network-manager sequences: restarting "networking" has all sorts of strange scondary effects
[15:00] <faugusztin> ImQ009_: if it is built in last 2 years, then there is a very little chance of it not being UEFI based
[15:00] <Freeder> Hi, does anyone have experience connecting to unix sockets with netcat? Is there anything 'wierd' I need to do, besides use the -U flag? I keep gettign disconnected everytime I send a command
[15:00] <eliesin> If primed with dbus, again, that last start network-manager actually does start wpa_supplicant more or less properly, etc.
[15:00] <BlitzHere> andrewvos, zykotick9: This did it. apt-get purge fingerprint-gui
[15:00] <BlitzHere> I have no idea why...
[15:01] <BlitzHere> Oh well, I'm going to reboot and see if that's fixed
[15:04] <bullicon> quick question, on ubuntu where will I install most programs by default?
[15:04] <bullicon> I'd like to use assign a mount point there?
[15:05] <faugusztin> bullicon: /usr is where stuff goes
[15:05] <bekks> Where most of the stuff goes.
[15:05] <Biomechd> bullicon: most stuff goes to your home folder by default. only the system-significant background files go elsewhere.
[15:06] <bullicon> Biomechd so its ok to mount a lesser capacity on / and the higher one on /home  ?
[15:06] <faugusztin> bullicon: define "lesser capacity"
[15:06] <bekks> bullicon: Sure. Thats the default in Ubuntu.
[15:06] <fluo75> Hi, my kernel has crashed just after having plugged my camera in  my Ubuntu Gnome 13.04.3. Here is the print screen: http://imagebin.org/272194
[15:07] <bullicon> lower disk space
[15:07] <bullicon> Biomechd
[15:07] <Biomechd> bullicon: as bekks said, i think that's what ubuntu does by default.
[15:07] <bekks> bullicon: Define "lower disk space".
[15:08] <bullicon> 24 Gb less than 500 gb
[15:08] <italian-cruncher> bullicon, you mean 24 GB the / and 470 GB the /home?
[15:08] <bullicon> italian-cruncher yeap
[15:08] <italian-cruncher> bullicon, thats cool.
[15:08] <excognac> anyone can help with testdisk?
[15:08] <italian-cruncher> excognac, yeah
[15:09] <Biomechd> might someone be able to tell me why rhythmbox isn't playing sound and making each song-second equate to 4-5 real-time seconds when streaming over wlan?
[15:09] <Vivekananda> varunendra: thanks I got it to work after a re login
[15:09] <Vivekananda> so you were saying something about saving a session for crashes
[15:09] <Vivekananda> can you elaborate on how to do it ?
[15:09] <Biomechd> lol as if that name isn't obvious
[15:10] <Vivekananda> Also is there a way that I can put an app launcher up on the top panel ?
[15:10] <excognac> italian-cruncher: thanks bro. how do i stop it copying files to an external hdd? i don't wanna take any risk of losing data. is that ok if i close the terminal?
[15:10] <italian-cruncher> bullicon, the idea is that if one day you reinstall Ubuntu (or install another debian-based distribution) you will still find all your data in the /home, desktop, config files and even the same wallpaper, just to make it simple
[15:10] <Biomechd> Vivekananda: i know it was certainly possible back in like 10.xx and so on.
[15:10] <bullicon> italian-cruncher cool
[15:10] <bullicon> never thought of that
[15:11] <italian-cruncher> excognac, its always ok to CTRL+C testdisk
[15:11] <Vivekananda> Biomechd: what was ? the app placement ?
[15:11] <italian-cruncher> excognac, but whats the problem exactly? is the external HD the one that you are trying to recoveR?
[15:11] <fztor> are there any distros out there that only provide the ubuntu kernel and base system?
[15:12] <varunendra> Vivekananda, "CCSM > Preferences > Profile & Backend tab > Export button". It will export your current profile (whatever you have enabled) to a file with extension name .profile
[15:12] <fztor> I dont want all the extra junk aka "features"
[15:12] <eliesin> Ah, of course. /etc/init/dbus.conf says "stop on deconfiguring-networking". Great...
[15:12] <Biomechd> Vivekananda: before i think you could just right-click on something and click on "pin to panel" or something of that nature. in gnome, however, i think they just expect you to use the dock launcher on the side.
[15:12] <italian-cruncher> fztor, try ubuntu server editon. or try Xubuntu if you want a lighter GUI. or Lubuntu
[15:12] <varunendra> Vivekananda, when compiz crashes, just 'Import' that profile again.
[15:12] <italian-cruncher> fztor, Ubuntu Server comes without any graphics at all, very minimal. You can still install it ofc
[15:12] <Biomechd> Vivekananda: er, not gnome. unity.
[15:13] <italian-cruncher> fztor, still unsure about your 'ubuntu' kernel thing, ubuntu kernel is Linux.
[15:13] <italian-cruncher> fztor, have a look at Debian as well
[15:13] <sweb> is anybody install ubuntu touch on Peak+ (Geeksphone) [Firefox OS based smartphone] ?
[15:14] <ikonia> sweb: the guys in #ubuntu-touch may have experience with that
[15:14] <sweb> is it supported by ubuntu touch or not
[15:14] <zykotick9> !mini | fztor
[15:14] <sweb> ikonia: ty
[15:14] <fztor> ubottu: thank you, that's what I was looking for :)
[15:14] <fztor> oh, ty zykotick9
[15:15] <bullicon> I get "The creation of swap sapce in partition #1 of SCSI1 failed"
[15:15] <bullicon> when trying to create a swap space
[15:15] <excognac> italian-cruncher: i had dual boot kubuntu 12.04 and win7. I placed win7 dvd in, it ruined my grub. find all details here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+question/236392
[15:15] <Biomechd> i take it nobody knows what's wrong with my music-streaming, then.
[15:15] <bekks> excognac: Then you dont need to use testdisk, but you need to repair grub.
[15:16] <bekks> !grub2 | excognac
[15:16] <italian-cruncher> bullicon, can you post your /etc/fstab?
[15:17] <bullicon> italian-cruncher how do I access that from installation ?
[15:17] <Vivekananda> varunendra: which profile ?
[15:17] <italian-cruncher> excognac, testdisk is for un-deleting files from, lets say, a camera memory card, or an hard disk, but in your case nothing was deleted, it just can't load because of grub. Follow bekks suggestion.
[15:17] <excognac> ubottu: thanks bro. i had grub 1.99 tho
[15:18] <varunendra> Vivekananda, you were asking about compiz profiles?
[15:18] <whoever> hi all, i have a kvm hooked up to a dektop and laptop, the problen is that when i switch to the laptop the external display seems to go into power save mode  can someone assist
[15:18] <excognac> bekks: thanks bro. does it matter i had grub 1.99?
[15:18] <whoever> crap
[15:19] <bekks> excognac: In fact, thats grub2 :)
[15:21] <kalkiawi> how to share files over wifi from two laptops, one running windows8pro other running ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[15:21] <ImQ009_> faugusztin, I don't understand one thing though: why can't I access system settings now? :D
[15:21] <bwayne> !samba | kalkiawi
[15:21] <ImQ009_> That's kind of terrifying actually
[15:22] <kalkiawi> bwayne: i am done installing samba, unable to configure, let me just check the link you have
[15:22] <kalkiawi> gave*
[15:23] <kalkiawi> bwayne: i am not a professional at this, hence need some help
[15:23] <kalkiawi> bwayne: kind of just started using ubuntu. only 2 weeks
[15:23] <kalkiawi> old
[15:23] <bwayne> kalkiawi: ok. just wasn't sure what level of help you needed. :-)
[15:24] <zyzzyva_> hi, I have an external drive that is having issues.  I don't know if the output of my syslog indicates it's beyond help:
[15:24] <zyzzyva_> http://www.fpaste.org/42836/13803815/
[15:24] <loki__> how i can change name of google chrome? For example i see in title "Google chrome", want something "Ninja browser" :D
[15:24] <kalkiawi> bwayne: i will try looking at the page though and if i dont understand then get back to you, alright?
[15:25] <bwayne> kalkiawi: i'll help as much as I can.
[15:25] <bekks> loki__: Ask google to handout the source code, andvedit it.
[15:27] <zyzzyva> Ubuntu Studio 12.04
[15:27] <bwayne> loki__: i think you can make a .desktop file which can do that. let me check something.
[15:28] <loki__> bwayne, i tried looking at command line options.
[15:28] <loki__> but no luck
[15:28] <loki__> but maybe i was not looking carfully
[15:28] <kalkiawi> bwayne: is there an easier guide?
[15:28] <kalkiawi> foor newbiews bwayne
[15:29] <kalkiawi> bwayne: im having trouble with the prerequisites lol
[15:30] <neomasterofcode> clear
[15:30] <bullicon> ive had so much troubles today
[15:31] <bullicon> I stupidly installed 32 bit on a 64 bit arch
[15:32] <pression> hi guys, who is the game with more graphics for linux?
[15:32] <Ari-Yang> pardon?
[15:32] <Territoriojoven> wat
[15:32] <eliesin> he is. that guy is.
[15:32] <bekks> bullicon: Thats not trouble, just wasting another 20 minutes for reinstalling a 64bit Ubuntu.
[15:32] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic
[15:32] <Territoriojoven> How can I improve this? http://i.imgur.com/QdQC5xQ.png
[15:33] <bullicon> bekks yeap, getting impatient
[15:33] <bekks> Territoriojoven: You can improve a picture by editing it.
[15:33] <Vivekananda> also varunendra , Biomechd I lost the folder view which has the directory structure on the left
[15:33] <Vivekananda> did I do something in ccsm :(
[15:34] <eliesin> Territoriojoven: get an SSD? I mean...
[15:34] <Biomechd> Vivekananda: i'm guessing it would be in the "view" options
[15:34] <Territoriojoven> eliesin: another option?
[15:35] <bekks> Territoriojoven: What do you want to "improve", actually?
[15:35] <Territoriojoven> the time
[15:35] <Territoriojoven> idk maybe i can do something
[15:35] <bekks> Territoriojoven: Which time?
[15:35] <Biomechd> Vivekananda: actually, just hit f9
[15:35] <Territoriojoven> to boot into lubuntu
[15:35] <bekks> Territoriojoven: Please describe your problem.
[15:35] <bwayne> kalkiawi: check it --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6167379/
[15:35] <bekks> Territoriojoven: Whats wrong with about a minute?
[15:35] <Territoriojoven> bekks: no, it's not a problem
[15:36] <Territoriojoven> nothing, i just want to know if there's something i can do.
[15:36] <bekks> Territoriojoven: If it isnt a problem, there is no need to fix it.
[15:36] <bwayne> oops, sorry kalkiawi.  that was meant for someone else.
[15:36] <Territoriojoven> okay there is a problem then.
[15:36] <bwayne> loki__: i made one for firefox --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6167379/
[15:36] <bekks> Territoriojoven: Dont use things like NTFS, bluetooth, etc. if you dont really need it.
[15:36] <gordonjcp> bullicon: it'll still work though
[15:36] <bekks> Territoriojoven: Which kind of problem arises of 60s boot time besides impatience?
[15:37] <bullicon> gordonjcp yeah it does
[15:37] <gordonjcp> bullicon: you just won't get the full benefit of >4GB of RAM, maybe
[15:37] <varunendra> Vivekananda, tried "F9" ?
[15:37] <bullicon> gordonjcp i need the benefits :)
[15:37] <gordonjcp> maybe you've got PAE so you still have more RAM but it's a little slower
[15:37] <loki__> bwayne, it will be name of icon) i have such, but i want window title of browser
[15:37] <bullicon> its bad enough that its corei3
[15:38] <italian-cruncher> I am pretty sure I am not the only one here, but I boot my computer more or less monthly... (yes its always on, seldom reboot for update). I know that most people don't do this though
[15:39] <lenti> 23:39
[15:39] <tbrock> hey guys, can you use the ubuntu packaging tools to make debs that work with debian as well?
[15:39] <gordonjcp> tbrock: kind of
[15:39] <italian-cruncher> tbrock, try asking in #debian ;)
[15:39] <tbrock> gordonjcp can you explain further?
[15:39] <italian-cruncher> tbrock, also brace yourself
[15:39] <zykotick9> tbrock: no.  ubuntu and debian are two different systems.
[15:40] <tbrock> yeah, those guys are always grumpy though
[15:40] <gordonjcp> tbrock: the techniques used for packaging are similar
[15:40] <bwayne> loki__: aw man. it looks cool thought right :) http://snag.gy/tcx8w.jpg
[15:40] <gordonjcp> tbrock: there are differences but you can largely automate them out
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> tbrock  if they were the same, a different name would not be required
[15:40] <jrib> tbrock: depends on what tools your are talking about probably
[15:41] <tbrock> yeah but they both use the same packaging system
[15:41] <tbrock> obviously ubuntu != debian
[15:41] <tbrock> but
[15:41] <tbrock> debs are debs are debs
[15:41] <eliesin> Lots of packages have "Origin: Debian"...
[15:41] <tbrock> ubuntu's tool set for building these things seems radically easier
[15:41] <SlutaTramsa> I'm using awesome window manager every now and then, but everytime that i edit the config file (rc.lua) and I accidentaly make some kind of an error the whole wm crashes and i'm being thrown back into the lightdm login screen. Is there any way to log the errors that's making the wm crash? (I'm using awesome v3.4.14 with ubuntu 13.04)
[15:41] <zykotick9> tbrock: "debs are debs are debs" not really.  a package for one, cannot be expected to run on the other.
[15:41] <italian-cruncher> tbrock, if I were you I'd strictly follow the Debian guidelines... as I said, ask on #debian and prepare for any kind of answer :)
[15:41] <tbrock> i get sleep just looking at the debian intro site
[15:42] <tbrock> ok
[15:42] <loki__> bwayne, lol http://i053.radikal.ru/1309/e4/0cf62229a8e9.png
[15:42] <tbrock> thanks guys
[15:42] <eliesin> It's not literally the same package, of course, but they're related.
[15:42] <tbrock> yes
[15:42] <tbrock> but one can install debian debs on ubuntu
[15:42] <tbrock> most of the time
[15:43] <italian-cruncher> tbrock, yeah but doing the inverse is usually unadvised
[15:43] <tbrock> i see
[15:43] <bekks> tbrock: And one can install ubuntu debs on debian - but both approaches are bad ideas.
[15:43] <italian-cruncher> tbrock, thats why I'd follow Debian guidelines ;)
[15:43] <bwayne> loki__: "requests exceeded limit"
[15:43] <tbrock> the reason I ask is I'm trying to redo our packaging system
[15:43] <jp1207> hi, does anyone know any packages for fan cooling and cpu temperature control, besides lm-sensors and fancontrol?
[15:43] <tbrock> and trying to figure out if i need to learn two methods
[15:43] <tbrock> and sets of tools or just one
[15:43] <italian-cruncher> jp1207, you mean getting sensor values or modifying fan speed?
[15:43] <tbrock> it seem alike two
[15:43] <Vivekananda> Biomechd: htat worked thanks
[15:44] <jp1207> italian-cruncher, modifying fan speed
[15:45] <jp1207> it's because when I tried the fancontrol package, the pwmconfig could not test on my laptop fans
[15:45] <Braden`> Hello
[15:46] <jp1207> I currenlty have a package called tlp installed which is suppose to run in the background, but it only slightly lowers the temperature
[15:46] <Braden`> I installed 13.04 via CD, and even though I unchecked the box to download updates, it is still downloading stuff via the net.  Is there a way to prevent that?
[15:46] <Braden`> If I pull the network cable, will it continue to install without the net connection?
[15:46] <pression> somebody know what is the best game with best graphics  for linux?
[15:46] <bekks> Braden`: Are you using the net-installer?
[15:46] <bekks> !best | pression
[15:46] <Braden`> No, the CD
[15:46] <italian-cruncher> Braden`, you should also uncheck 'install mp3, flash player' and the like
[15:46] <bekks> Braden`: The net-installer is a cd also.
[15:46] <Braden`> I unchecked that
[15:47] <Braden`> bekks:  Its 700mb
[15:47] <jp1207> shame that the jupiter package is no longer updated...
[15:47] <jp1207> does anyone else have an overheating problem when ubuntu is installed?
[15:48] <bekks> jp1207: Nope, my fans are clean.
[15:48] <GEEGEEGEE> how do i remove the amazon spyware?
[15:48] <pression> !best | pression
[15:48] <bwayne> kalkiawi: were you asking for me a moment ago? sorry i was in like three chats at once.
[15:48] <jp1207> so is mine, but I thought it was to do with the missing drivers for fan controls
[15:48] <eliesin> GEEGEEGEE: remove the relevant shopping-lens package
[15:49] <eliesin> unity-lens-shopping
[15:49] <jrib> tbrock: !adlens | GEEGEEGEE
[15:49] <jrib>  !adlens | GEEGEEGEE
[15:49] <jp1207> anyone have installed ubuntu on hp (envy m6) laptops?
[15:49] <italian-cruncher> btw, calling it spyware is kind-of FUD
[15:49] <eliesin> eh
[15:50] <pression> somebody is harrashing me, ubottu don't stop speak me, i said to him stop, but he answer me with unlogic answers, sry for my english
[15:50] <italian-cruncher> GEEGEEGEE, you should also redirect google.com to 127.0.0.1
[15:50] <jrib> pression: don't speak to ubottu and he will not speak to you
[15:51] <bwayne> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/command-not-found/+bug/1055766
[15:51] <pression> this guy always say me to this channel send me a private message xD
[15:51] <eliesin> italian-cruncher: it's pretty different for people to search in a way that used to be locally and have that turn into a network search. People using a web browser know that's what they're doing.
[15:51] <italian-cruncher> pression, ubottu is a known stalker, we are working on it
[15:52] <eliesin> Ubuntu's optics on it were atrocious, if nothing else. First plain HTTP, etc
[15:52] <italian-cruncher> eliesin, still kind-of far fetched to call it spyware imho, just my 2 cents ;) not that I like it either
[15:52] <kalkiawi> bwayne: manage to share ubuntu files on windows, can't do the vice verse. i am creating a read only interface
[15:52] <eliesin> Dallying months to implement the disabling option
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> yes, ubottu , you're a pain
[15:52] <eliesin> because who really cared, while all the time Jono bacon or whoever kept donig apologetics about how it didn't matter
[15:52] <pression> ahh, i understand, he is like a robot
[15:52] <Perni339> shamey shamey shamey ubonttu
[15:52] <ImQ009_> Well, I found all the information I need. THANKS, UBUNTU :[
[15:52] <ImQ009_> http://www.linlap.com/fujitsu_lifebook_ah532
[15:53]  * zykotick9 wonders about all this picking on poor ubottu.
[15:53] <italian-cruncher> pression, he is not a robot but he always pretends he is
[15:53] <eliesin> But yes, spyware is debatable.
[15:53] <BluesKaj> !bot
[15:53] <zykotick9> !gender | italian-cruncher
[15:53] <bwayne> kalkiawi: so you want to be able to read and write file on ubuntu from windows?
[15:53] <pression> do you know what is the game with more graphic setting for ubuntu?
[15:53] <italian-cruncher> never late to learn :D
[15:53] <italian-cruncher> !marry ubottu
[15:55] <italian-cruncher> pression, try Nexuiz
[15:55] <ankk> hi
[15:56] <javier___> is there a way to get SDL2 on ubuntu 13.10?
[15:56] <ankk> is there a more famous distribution than ubuntu?
[15:56] <italian-cruncher> ankk, distrowatch.com
[15:56] <javier___> I don't see it in the repos
[15:56] <javier___> any ideas?
[15:57] <freeman_> I am looking for some help with repositories and dependencies if anyone is able
[15:57] <kalkiawi> bwayne: i want ubuntu to share read only files, want windos to do the same
[15:58] <italian-cruncher> ankk, short answer: Linux Mint has a strong popularity these days, but I bet the most 'popular' out there is Ubuntu at the moment. I am not saying its the biggest one or the best one ofc, since its based on Debian which is the 'rock' that exists since 20 years and on which dozens upon dozens of distros are based. Basically the linux world is divided into big four: Debian, RedHat, Arch and Suse. Everything e
[15:58] <italian-cruncher> lse is derivative, but don't bother with those until you become very very comfortable at Ubuntu. Try Xubuntu, Lubuntu or Kubuntu for a change of air
[15:58] <myth> is there any channel for JAVA ?
[15:58] <kalkiawi> bwayne: if i put smbpasswd then i cant access ubuntu files from windows on the other hand when no password is put, i can access, is there something wrong with the domain i am entering. I write UbuntuUsername for uname and ubuntuPassword for passwd
[15:59] <Biomechd> in hopes that someone who's logged on recently might be able to help me, i'll ask my question again: does anyone know why rhythmbox isn't producing any sound and causing song-seconds to be about 4-5 real-time seconds when trying to stream music over wlan?
[16:00] <eliesin> myth: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=java+freenode
[16:01] <zykotick9> !alis | myth
[16:01] <Braden`> what is the name of the gnome package?
[16:01] <Braden`> So that I can use it instead of unity
[16:01] <zykotick9> eliesin: don't use www.lmgtfy.com here
[16:01] <eliesin> Fair enough.
[16:02] <myth> eliesin thanks :)
[16:02] <bwayne> kalkiawi, sounds like you like to modify your /etc/samba/smb.conf .  Under [share] ; browser = yes ; guest ok = yes ; read only = no ; create mask = 0755
[16:02] <trism> javier___: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsdl2 , libsdl2-dev ?
[16:03] <Braden`> apt-get install gnome ?
[16:03] <zykotick9> !notunity | Braden`
[16:04] <Braden`> I'd prefer Gnome 3
[16:04] <Braden`> gnome-shell is gnome 3?
[16:04] <italian-cruncher> ankk, if you want to know a bit more about all the distros out there, check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg
[16:04] <zykotick9> Braden`: yes
[16:04] <Walex2> sorry, my client crashed. what was the story with 3.2 vs. 3.10 and BTRFS and APT?
[16:05] <myth> anyone know code in java to collect the twitter feed ? I have made one code .. but facing problm :(
[16:06] <Walex2> myth: probably better asked in ##Java
[16:08] <myth> Walex2 i cant connect to that channel :(
[16:08] <Walex2> myth: that seems very strange...
[16:09] <italian-cruncher> myth, are you using the double #?
[16:09] <myth> yes
[16:09] <Fanatic89> can i change to scroll speed in ubuntu 12.04?
[16:09] <myth> italian-cruncher yes , i am writing ##java
[16:10] <karab44> copy/move progress works badly. According to it I have already copied files on my pendrive. According to pendrives LED it is still copying, 4 minutes after copy progress bar finished. And I believe my pendrive.
[16:11] <eliesin> myth: "##java: Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services"
[16:11] <karab44> and my question is - how to determine when ubuntu finished copying to pendrive which has no LED ?
[16:11] <eliesin> Look up nickserv
[16:11] <Fanatic89> and i also want to slow down the mouse speed more in settings it is on the lowest point
[16:12] <Walex2> karab44: when you unmount the pendrive, the umounting will only terminate untill everything has been written.
[16:12] <myth> wliesin yes m getting the same
[16:12] <karab44> Walex2: I usually umount it phisically ;>
[16:12] <myth> eliesin yes m getting the same.. wht to do
[16:12] <otak> karab44: can use command iostat from package sysstat for that
[16:12] <Walex2> karab44: that is a very bad idea.
[16:13] <eliesin> Right, so register with nickserv: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#identify
[16:13] <karab44> Ok, thanks guys you are awesome.
[16:13] <karab44> :)
[16:13] <Walex2> karab44: unless it was mounted as '-o sync', which however makes it very slow.
[16:13] <pression> i going to study and i will create my own game better than repopulation
[16:14] <eliesin> or I guess http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup is better
[16:16] <zyzzyva> Hi, I'm on Ubuntu Studio 12.04 and I have a seagate external drive that isn't being recognized in any usb port.  Here's a paste of the syslog when I plug it in.  I really hope it can be fixed; it has some data that isn't located anywhere else.  THANKS in advance!  http://www.fpaste.org/42836/13803815/
[16:17] <loki__> zyzzyva, y think it is problem with cable.
[16:17] <loki__> or maybe with hardware.
[16:17] <OerHeks> or power
[16:18] <loki__> OerHeks, power it is not hardware problem?
[16:18] <zyzzyva> it does have power; it lights up and sounds like it's trying...
[16:19] <loki__> zyzzyva, hdd cosumes different level of power when it work.
[16:19] <zyzzyva> ok
[16:20] <loki__> i have old hdd which have 2x usb father ends.
[16:20] <loki__> today it can recieve power from one, but not on all hardware
[16:20] <zyzzyva> yeah, I have one like that as well -- this one is a single usb
[16:21] <loki__> you try on desktop?
[16:21] <zyzzyva> wish I had another cable to test.  Could try to find one
[16:21] <zyzzyva> hmm, no, I'll try on another computer asap
[16:21] <ImQ009> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1082418
[16:21] <ImQ009> Thanks for not taking care of that
[16:21] <ImQ009> lol
[16:21]  * ImQ009 back to googling
[16:22] <ironfoot495> whats the procedure on getting on #php?
[16:24] <ironfoot495> how do I get an invitation for php
[16:24] <xangua> !register | ironfoot495
[16:25] <omgeek> How hard is coding
[16:25] <zykotick9> !register | ironfoot495
[16:25] <omgeek> When you asked work on front end
[16:25] <omgeek> Or back end
[16:25] <Walex2> omgeek: done badly it is fairly easy, done well it is quite hard.
[16:25] <n33dhelp> Hey guys I just installed Ubuntu with Wubi and now when I reboot it automatically boots to Ubuntu and I can't boot to windows, please help.
[16:25] <omgeek> In middle of project
[16:25] <omgeek>  On technology stack that you don't know
[16:25] <omgeek> Else quit the job
[16:26] <Walex2> omgeek: to learn basics of a language takes 2 weeks. To learn to understand other people's code and modify it at least some months.
[16:26] <omgeek> I am working hard
[16:27] <omgeek> New project deal with python and javascript
[16:27] <omgeek> But I am c and java developer
[16:27] <omgeek>  I have one week to save my job
[16:27] <omgeek> Get done half stuck project that being left someone
[16:28] <omgeek> Who has good opportunity and joined other company
[16:28] <omgeek> Jobs all suck
[16:28] <omgeek> Better to become a freelancer
[16:28] <zl> ola
[16:30] <omgeek> Yes I think if give me 2 weeks I can finish it Walex2 ..I am even working weekend and nights
[16:30] <omgeek> It really sucks
[16:32] <andrewvos> ok this is weird
[16:32] <troma> server -e irc.synirc.org:+7001
[16:32] <andrewvos> My settings for gnome-terminal weren't being saved
[16:32] <andrewvos> I had to do this sudo chown -R andrew .gconf/apps/gnome-terminal/global
[16:32] <andrewvos> How is it possible that root took over that file??
[16:32] <jrib> andrewvos: you probably sudo'd something you shouldn't have
[16:33] <andrewvos> sigh
[16:33] <andrewvos> And after manually entering in twenty colours into that nightmare gnome-termianl settings window I now have to do it again
[16:33] <a3rdcoast> I have an Ubuntu VPS on Linode running 10.04 LTS. I understand that the server edition of 10.04 LTS is supposed to get updates for 5 years.  I don't believe I'm getting any updates though.  How can I confirm?
[16:33] <andrewvos> I give up on computers for today
[16:33] <omgeek> Sys admins freelance
[16:34] <jrib> andrewvos: check your sources.list
[16:34] <omgeek> Any website
[16:34] <bekks> andrewvos: sudo apt-get update annd pastebin the entire output.
[16:34] <Walex2> omgeek: you are being bullied, but this often happens in IT companies... Some however don't do it.
[16:34] <troma> #natokeio 04200
[16:34] <Walex2> a3rdcoast: security updates... and they happen.
[16:35] <a3rdcoast> Walex2: thanks!
[16:35] <Walex2> a3rdcoast: and note that the updates-for-N-years applies anyhow to a small subset of core archigos>
[16:35] <Walex2> a3rdcoast: and note that the updates-for-N-years applies anyhow to a small subset of core archives
[16:35] <a3rdcoast> Walex2: in other words, upgrade to 12.04 LTS?
[16:35] <Walex2> a3rdcoast: I also have a VPS and will be updrading to 14.04 when it comes out.
[16:35] <troma> how i can to join to channel?.. havent use x-gnome long time
[16:36] <a3rdcoast> Walex2: I'd like to wait, but I don't want to "risk" anything.
[16:36] <italian-cruncher> troma, /join #desired-channel
[16:36] <Walex2> a3rdcoast: the small number of 10.04 packages I use on that VM is covered.
[16:36] <OerHeks> a3rdcoast, " cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ install\ "     " to see last installed updates
[16:37] <a3rdcoast> Walex2: doh, i Just checked /var/log/apt/history.log and it looks like there have been some updates.  that eases my worries, thanks.
[16:37] <a3rdcoast> thanks... how can I determine which packages are updated and which aren't?
[16:38] <a3rdcoast> i have quite a few VPN daemons running
[16:38] <OerHeks> easy, by running update
[16:38] <a3rdcoast> by updated, i mean which are being maintained and getting updates pushed to me through apt-get update
[16:38] <a3rdcoast> OerHeks: sorry, to clarify I mean which are being maintained and updated through apt-get?
[16:39] <Walex2> a3rdcoast: 'ubuntu-support-status'
[16:40] <a3rdcoast> Walex2: perfect, ty! (You have 19 packages (4.0%) that are unsupported)
[16:41] <Goopyo> I am running 'rm -rf .profile.d' which is a directory. It ends without error but the directory remains. Any ideas?
[16:41] <bekks> Goopyo: Depends on the error.
[16:42] <Walex2> Goopyo: '-f' suppresses all error messages...
[16:42] <Walex2> Goopyo: 'find .profile.d'
[16:42] <Goopyo> .profile.d
[16:42] <Goopyo> .profile.d/app-env.sh
[16:42] <Goopyo> .profile.d/python.sh
[16:42] <Goopyo> .profile.d/config_vars
[16:42] <Goopyo> sorry for the multiline
[16:42] <FloodBot1> Goopyo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:42] <jrib> Goopyo: pastebin full input and output NOT HERE
[16:42] <Goopyo> yeah my bad
[16:42] <jrib> Goopyo: pastebin the full input and output for what you are doing
[16:44] <Goopyo> http://pastebin.com/kSJ7bxup
[16:45] <Goopyo> basically sums it up
[16:45] <jrib> Goopyo: are you on ubuntu?
[16:45] <Goopyo> yup
[16:45] <Goopyo> docker lxc
[16:47] <jrib> Goopyo: it's probably related to some weird docker setup... that would be my guess anyway.  Can you delete anything else?
[16:47] <Goopyo> yeah
[16:47] <Goopyo> only that file seems to have an issue
[16:47] <Goopyo> oh shit
[16:48]  * jrib waits in suspense
[16:48] <elmosanches> Goopyo: I got same thing with docker container. no idea why
[16:49] <Goopyo> well its also the only directory made through the docker command, but I'm doubtful that has anything to do with it
[16:49] <elmosanches> Goopyo: I've noticed that user cant do anything with files created by root, even though he is set as its owner
[16:51] <Goopyo> hmm any ideas how to solve that elmosanches?
[16:52] <elmosanches> Goopyo: only solution I've found is to make sure that files are created by the user who is suposed to manage it later
[16:53] <elmosanches> Goopyo: when in Dockerfile: RUN su user; mkdir /path/to/file #for example
[16:54] <Goopyo> dont you use root for your user within docker? I assumed it safe to do so
[16:55] <mwallacesd> Hi there
[16:55] <elmosanches> Goopyo: root if only commands dont require non root user to run
[16:55] <mwallacesd> if I run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it will upgrade my ubuntu 12.04 to 13.04?
[16:56] <SunTsu> mwallacesd: no. do-release-upgrade would do that
[16:56] <mwallacesd> or will just upgrade the kernel version 3.5 to 3.8?
[16:56] <Goopyo> elmosanches: just tried su root; rm -rf .profile.d and it still wont go away
[16:57] <SunTsu> mwallacesd: it will do what it will tell you when you actually run that command
[16:57] <elmosanches> Goopyo: you dont need to do su for root, when in Dockerfile you execute everything as root
[16:57] <mwallacesd> SunTsu, so apt-get dist-upgrade just upgrade my kernel?
[16:58] <Goopyo> oh so its impossible to delete the file from within the docker container?
[16:58] <SunTsu> mwallacesd: I don't know what it tells you what it will do
[16:58] <mwallacesd> now it is 3.5.40
[16:59] <mwallacesd> I remember that I run apt-get dist-upgrade in a 64bits and it changes the kernel version
[17:00] <mwallacesd> but I dont know if it is the same to 32 bits
[17:00] <elmosanches> Goopyo: I've just started one docker and I can delete anything I want
[17:00] <python_n00b> How do I use fuser to get the program making use of aptitude?
[17:01] <elmosanches> Goopyo: my issue is limitted only to non-root users
[17:01] <SunTsu> mwallacesd: it installs upgrades, nobody knows what updates are available to you - and you only will find out if you do apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:02] <Goopyo> elmosanches can you run this: echo "HEY" | docker run -i -a stdin <image> /bin/bash -c "mkdir -p /app/.profile.d && cat > /app/.profile.d/app-env.sh"
[17:02] <Fanatic89> a goot twitter client for ubuntu?
[17:03] <Fanatic89> instead of gwibber
[17:03] <bekks> Fanatic89: firefox.
[17:03] <Fanatic89> :D
[17:03] <Fanatic89> i asked for a client not a browser ;)
[17:04] <python_n00b> How do I use the "fuser" command  to get the program making use of aptitude?
[17:04] <mwallacesd> it is saying that will upgrade to linux-image-gereric-its-quantal. Like I sed I'm in a 3.5.40 precise... So, in resume it will ONLY upgrade precise kernel to quantal kernel, is that correct?????
[17:04] <mwallacesd> SunTsu, =)
[17:05] <NeroBurner> hello, i've searched Google and DuckDuckgo, but I can't find a ppa for the latest AMD-Graphics drivers (the propritary ones). Anyone using the propritary drivers für his/her ati card?
[17:05] <SunTsu> mwallacesd: I'm going to say it for the very last time: It will tell you what it says it will do.
[17:06] <SunTsu> er, it will do what it tells you it will do
[17:07] <mwallacesd> Not sure SunTsu, THERE IS A LOT OF DEPENDENCIES... Thats why I am asking if it ONLY update the kernel... But thant a lot for nothing
[17:07] <mwallacesd> =)
[17:08] <SunTsu> mwallacesd: welcome to ignore
[17:09] <elmosanches> Goopyo: I've ran it and app dir and the .profile file was created
[17:10] <elmosanches> Goopyo: have you remmeber to commit the resuts?
[17:10] <NeroBurner> does anyone know if there is an up to date ppa for the AMD-GPU Proprietary Drivers?
[17:10] <NeroBurner> all i've found is the old ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa and that it is obsolete
[17:10] <bekks> NeroBurner: ubuntu-x-swat
[17:12] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, I am using eclipse for programming and it uses a plugin called saros to collaborate. Saros requires one user to be a "host" which is always on to share the code. Me and a few friends want to have the host running constantly so that anyone can go online to edit the code whenever they would like. Eclipse does not have a command line version and I have no idea how that would work. What is the lowest end type of ubuntu I can run on 
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> !ppa | NeroBurner
[17:13] <bekks> Pinkamena_D: You should use a collaboration tool not requiring being "online" graphically. Like svn/git/etc.
[17:13] <excognac> hi all. why i can't make a startup usb? I'm, on a kubuntu 11.10 live cd, whenever i try it with dd or cat from terminal it says permission denied
[17:13] <Pinkamena_D> In the past we have often used the realtime aspect for better productivity
[17:13] <jrib> !11.10 | excognac
[17:14] <excognac> jrib: i need to make a boot-repair, this is the only live cd i have, please help
[17:15] <NeroBurner> thx for the ppa, i'm aware of the risk of using ppas
[17:15] <sinus> How do I lookup MAC adress to an wlan adapter and download proper software?
[17:16] <ikonia> sinus: ifconfig will show you the mac
[17:16] <ikonia> why do you need the mac though ?
[17:16] <sinus> I have a crappy adatper "no-name"
[17:16] <ikonia> so ?
[17:16] <ikonia> why do you need the mac
[17:16] <sinus> Need to install software
[17:16] <ikonia> sinus: again....why do you need the mac ?
[17:17] <sinus> I need to know the company
[17:17] <ikonia> sinus: the mac address doesn't tell you the company
[17:17] <sinus> oh,
[17:17] <sinus> There is no info on the adapter itself
[17:17] <bekks> sinus: No.
[17:17] <rattatoue> I did a update earlier on the system, then restarted. Now I have no clock, if I go to Date & Time, then go to the Clock all the settings are greyed out. I made sure indicator-datetime is installed, but still same issue. Any suggestions?
[17:22] <ixio> !ot
[17:23] <tozen> rattatoue: how did you make sure it's installed?
[17:24] <rattatoue> tozen: I installed it again, but I was able to fix it by running killall unity-panel-service, now it is back.
[17:25] <loki__> is in freenode channel of chrome?
[17:25] <bekks> !alis | loki__
[17:26] <tozen> rattatoue: so you get it back on tray?
[17:26] <rattatoue> tozen: correct, it is back on the tray as normal. I don't know if it will be there on next restart or not, but for now at least it is there.
[17:28] <toshiba> friends how do i check the location of transmisssion torrent???
[17:28] <tozen> rattatoue: if smth same will happen I would suggest to reset unity (if in use)
[17:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> Heyo. Filed a bug report against 13.04, they want me to test against 10.04 for possible regression. Problem is, I now run arch linux, and am unsure how to produce a bootable usb stick from arch. usind dd did not do the trick; or, barring that, is the lucid iso capable of booting directly with grub2?
[17:30] <bekks> ntzrmtthihu777: Create a vm, you dont need an USB Stick.
[17:30] <rattatoue> tozen: thanks for the suggestion will try that next and atm I am on unity
[17:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> bekks: won't work. Its a hardware specific bug; my touchpad is detected as a ps/2 mouse when it is in actuality a synaptics device.
[17:31] <MoPac> Hello; I'm having an environment variable issue. When I append folders to PATH, PYTHONPATH, etc in my ~/.profile , the OS seems to think that they are all one big folder with a colon in the middle. Any ideas?
[17:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> MoPac: the colon separates entries. try "echo $PATH" and see its the same.
[17:31] <toshiba> friends how do i check the location of transmisssion torrent???
[17:31] <bekks> MoPac: So what did you write to your .profile?
[17:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> toshiba: by default it is in ~/Downloads/
[17:32] <toshiba> i need to have a location of the installed application
[17:33] <MoPac> E.g., line in profile: export PYTHONPATH="${PYTHONPATH}":"/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages" (have tried with an without the quotes being involved. When I "ls $PyTHONPATH", I see cannot access :/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages:/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages: No such file or directory
[17:33] <Calinou> it's probably in downloads folder
[17:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> toshiba: use the command "which transmission" or "locate transmission" | grep bin
[17:33] <Calinou> ~/Downloads in english
[17:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> Calinou: I think toshiba want's the binary itself.
[17:33] <toshiba> @ntzrmtthihu777 :i need to have a location of the installed application
[17:33] <tozen> toshiba: all binaries are located in /usr/bin directory
[17:33] <toshiba> so that I can link up the torrents there
[17:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> toshiba: I understand that, which is why I said do that.
[17:33] <MoPac> echo $PATH shows /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/bin  (as if it's one big folder)
[17:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> toshiba: and you don't link torrents to the installed application.
[17:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> MoPac: see, that's normal. PATH entries are separated by colons
[17:34] <MoPac> ntzrmtthihu777: bekks: Is there some other file that might have gotten messed up that contains the parsing instructions?
[17:34] <toshiba> when I download torrent, it asks me to launch that with an application and asks for the path of the application
[17:34] <bekks> MoPac: Thats a valid path.
[17:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> PYTHONPATH="$PYTHONPATH:/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages" would be cleaner.
[17:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> toshiba: and I told you how to get the program.
[17:35] <toshiba> yepp...checking that
[17:35] <toshiba> thanks buddy
[17:36] <MoPac> ntzrmtthihu777: That hasn't helped either unfortunately (my current quote configuration was a desperation move)
[17:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> MoPac: yeah, if your path is normally foo and bar, it would be foo:bar; adding baz to the path by PATH="$PATH:baz" results in foo:bar:baz
[17:36] <MoPac> ntzrmtthihu777: bekks: It's possible that at some point I messed with the file that contains the default $PATH location -- where is that located?
[17:37] <bekks> MoPac: You have a valid path. Why do you think it is messed up?
[17:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> MoPac: /etc/profile, maybe?
[17:37] <tozen> toshiba: IMHO transmission is to buggy use deluge ;)
[17:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> tozen: I agree :P
[17:37] <MoPac> bekks: ntzrmtthihu777: When trying to install packages, the scripts can't locate modules that should be there already. Also, I get those error messages when I try to list contents at a path
[17:38] <bekks> MoPac: Then the modules arent there, while the path is valid itself.
[17:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> MoPac: I'm not particularly knowledgable in python matters, so I'll not be able to help more than generic issues. perhaps asking in ##python would be a good idea.
[17:38] <MoPac> bekks: would ls normally throw an error even for a valid path if there are appended folders?
[17:39] <bekks> MoPac: No.
[17:39] <MoPac> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks, though -- you've been helpful already
[17:39] <bekks> MoPac: ls hat nothing to do with the path variable.
[17:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> MoPac: just looking out for my gnu/linux buddies
[17:40] <toshiba> thanks tozen
[17:40] <MoPac> bekks: Sorry I probably wasn't clear on earlier question. Should I be able to type into the shell "ls $PATH" or "ls $PyTHONPATH" [no quotes] and see a bunch of contents that sit at the end of all of the elements of the path?
[17:40] <toshiba> i am able to start download
[17:40] <toshiba> but gui is not showing me any option to stop now :D
[17:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> MoPac: not that I am aware of, lol. you're basically telling it "ls /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:...."
[17:41] <bekks> MoPac: No. ls $PATH is nonsense.
[17:41] <zomgdocker> Hello hipstooooors. i debootstrap'ed ubuntu raring. I want to copy this to a mounted dd'ed device. How do i copy this EXACTLY? Is copy -R * mydd/beta/raring to /dev/my-dd enough or
[17:41] <zomgdocker> not?
[17:41] <zomgdocker> *cp
[17:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> MoPac: now, you could maybe pipe the contents of "echo $PATH" into a loop and feed that into ls, maybe.
[17:42] <MoPac> bekks: ah, okay. I just got some bad advice earlier then
[17:42] <tozen> toshiba: u r welcome, pal
[17:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> MoPac: parse it by the colons, maybe awk or sed or something like that.
[17:42] <MoPac> ntzrmtthihu777: Someone told me to do that as a way of checking whether the .py files were on the end of my path; I guess the only way to do it is to visit the folders themselves
[17:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> MoPac: suppose so. again, I know next to nothing about python
[17:43] <zykotick9> MoPac: "echo $PATH" to see your current path variable
[17:43] <Die_Nadal> Hello
[17:44] <MoPac> zykotick9: Right; I had just been given a shortcut earlier ("ls $[whatever]PATH") the see all the files on the end, but it was incorrect
[17:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> zykotick9: he's more interested in PYTHONPATH
[17:44] <c4rbonix> hi
[17:44] <toshiba> tozen : i am able to start download
[17:44] <toshiba> but not able to view it in gui
[17:44] <toshiba> is it a bug?
[17:44] <tozen> toshiba: what du you mean?
[17:45] <Die_Nadal> Question, I have a 2 TB drive that I thought was mounted for the /home directory during install but instead it is mounted as /media/user/aba2a0ce8lllll
[17:45] <tozen> toshiba: r u using deluge or steel transmission?
[17:45] <Die_Nadal> when I go to that directory it says I should "From the command line, run:
[17:45] <Die_Nadal>  ecryptfs-mount-private"
[17:45] <MoPac> ntzrmtthihu777: bekks: Is there a general way to make path variables recursive? So many of the modules are several levels down in a folder, and maybe that's why they're being missed. Can I tell a path to look in all subfolders of a given folder?
[17:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> MoPac: not a clue. and i doubt it.
[17:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> so, anyone got a clue on making a bootable ubuntu 10.04 usb from arch linux? or, booting the iso with grub2?
[17:47] <DrManhattan> ntzrmtthihu777, there's a bunch of programs you can use for that, beginning with good ole dd
[17:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> DrManhattan: dd did not do the trick this time; I in fact used that to create my arch boot stick :P
[17:48] <Zal> MoPac, I wasn't here for your original question, but I'll point out that there seems to be some confusion between PATH and PYTHONPATH in the discussion so far. At least, I'm confused at this point :-)
[17:48] <MoPac> Zal: It's an issue I was having with both of them -- my fault for not just sticking with one
[17:48] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: i suggest using a supported rerlease
[17:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> Zal: nah. he's interested in PYPATH, but we're speaking in generalities atm.
[17:48] <DrManhattan> ntzrmtthihu777, that's very, very odd. DD is about as efficient as it gets for that.
[17:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: must be lucid, its for a bug report, checking for regressions.
[17:49] <MoPac> I found this page talking about subdirectory inclusion, but I'm not sure where that code would go http://superuser.com/questions/345294/recursively-add-directory-to-path-variable
[17:49] <Zal> MoPac, it sounds like you're headed down a rabbit hole of questions that may be better addressed by getting back to your original problem.
[17:49] <Zal> ntzrmtthihu777, cool, thanks :-)
[17:49] <dbugger> Hey guys. Im having some trouble. I play some videos and I notice that I can hear the music in the background but not the voices! This is really bizarre! What can I do?
[17:49] <bindi> dbugger: don't have the exact solution but speaker configuration in ubuntu and/or your video player can cause that
[17:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> dbugger: got all the right codecs installed?
[17:50] <Zal> dbugger, maybe you're only getting one stereo channel in your speakers.
[17:50] <MoPac> Zal: Original problem: I'm installing programs and modules that are python-based (GNURadio). But many of the files appear to various installation and program scripts to be missing. I suspect it's a path problem. After help in here so far, my current suspicion is that the problem is they've all been buried in subdirectories
[17:50] <DrManhattan> dbugger, sound like you're only getting a couple of channels out of surround sound - got your speakers plugged in properly?
[17:50] <dbugger> so what should I do to solve it? Changing to alsa gives me the voice, (but that has its own issues)
[17:51] <DrManhattan> dbugger, what program are you using to play the video?
[17:51] <dbugger> Sometime VLC, sometimes the default
[17:51] <Zal> MoPac, it's actually very rare for python modules to install in a way that required modules are not path accessible. I'd suggest to you that perhaps your hypothesis is incorrect, and you might take another look at the original error message, for starters.
[17:51] <DrManhattan> you could change the audio mixdown to 2 channel instead of 5 or 7
[17:51] <dbugger> damm, not its working... -_-
[17:51] <dbugger> THis is really weird...
[17:51] <ntzrmtthihu777> dbugger: try playing it with mplayer, see if it works there.
[17:52] <DrManhattan> dbugger, im very sure you can change audio to 2 channel in either vlc or the dvd options
[17:52] <DrManhattan> assuming now you're playing a dvd or bluray\
[17:52] <DrManhattan> I've never heard of ripped video having 5 or 7 channel encoding
[17:52] <MoPac> Zal: This particular program actually has a message at the end of installation recommending that you append a new path directory
[17:53] <MoPac> Zal: But even in that directory, what I see is a bunch of folders with python modules in them, or in subfolders of them
[17:54] <Zal> MoPac, sure, my only point is that the subdirectory issue is very unlikely to be the problem. Python modules work fine in subdirectories, because you access them from the top level via imports.
[17:54] <ntzrmtthihu777> MoPac: what little I know of python is that in general installation is done by running python setup.py --install
[17:54] <gh0st_> yo
[17:55] <MoPac> ntzrmtthihu777: this program suite is actually installed by a massive script that deals with a whole bunch of components, but it works great for pretty much everybody
[17:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> DrManhattan: can the lucid iso boot from grub2 directly?
[17:55] <Zal> MoPac, so I guess the first question is, are the instructions to append to PATH or PYTHONPATH, and did you do so, and if so, how?
[17:56] <DrManhattan> ntzrmtthihu777, I don't know, I've never tried that. I'm sure there's a way to tell it to via editing the boot menu
[17:56] <MoPac> Zal: PYTHONPATH. I appended in ~./profile, like this (with the quotes fixed, excluded, etc., different configurations) http://pastebin.com/ES4CVGmd
[17:57] <gh0st_> hey, i could use some help.  I am trying to connect my laptop (compaq presario nx6110) to wired internet, then broadcast an ad-hoc wifi network, and set up an ssh server (ssh server is done) so i can use the laptop as storage etc, then connect to the internet by connecting to the ad-hoc wifi, and then connecting to the internet using an ssh tunnel through the server
[17:57] <DrManhattan> if you can make it boot from cd and network from the boot menu edit screen im VERY sure you could make it boot off of USB that way
[17:57] <gh0st_> but the problem is i can't get the wifi and wired network to work at the same time
[17:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> gh0st_: try a manual config, instead of say network-manager or wicd
[17:57] <DrManhattan> gh0st_, that's WACKY - what kind of errors are you running into?
[17:57] <gh0st_> when i connect an ethernet cable to it, it disables the wifi, saying it's been disabled by hardware switch
[17:58] <gh0st_> there's a button, but it does not change it
[17:58] <gordonjcp> gh0st_: check the bios setting
[17:58]  * ntzrmtthihu777 notes to not get that wacky laptop
[17:58] <DrManhattan> gh0st_, what kind of laptop is this?
[17:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> DrManhattan: see op
[17:58] <gh0st_> rfkill says the wifi's blocked whenever i plug in an ethernet cable
[17:58] <Zal> MoPac, cool, that looks good (though I'm a little surprised that directory isn't already on your python2.7 PYTHONPATH, it won't hurt either way). Did you log out and back in after editing ~/.profile, and "echo $PYTHONPATH" to verify that it worked?
[17:58] <DrManhattan> yeah my !*(@(**$ celphone does this
[17:58] <gordonjcp> gh0st_: there will be a BIOS setting for that
[17:58] <gh0st_> hp compaq nx6110
[17:59] <gordonjcp> yup
[17:59] <DrManhattan> ntzrmtthihu777, thanks
[17:59] <gordonjcp> gh0st_: there *is* a BIOS setting for that ;-)
[17:59] <gh0st_> been in the bios, and it said nothing.  What *should* it say?
[17:59] <MoPac> Zal: Yep, I did. Also, I just figured out which other file I messed with the first time I was trying to fix the path -- I added the same export lines to ~./pam_environment. Dunno if that would have made a difference
[17:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> DrManhattan: this is why I don't deal in smartphones, lol. I'm happy with a dumb phone and a smart pc/laptop :P
[18:00] <DrManhattan> ntzrmtthihu777, I need it for tethering
[18:00] <gordonjcp> gh0st_: can't remember, but it's definitely an HP thing and it's definitely in the BIOS
[18:00] <Zal> MoPac, shouldn't matter either way, you can export numerous times with no deleterious effect. So that part sounds reasonable. What error do you see after that, and when doing what?
[18:01] <gh0st_> anyway, i tried to get around it by plugging in a usb wifi dongle and it did that too
[18:01] <DrManhattan> gh0st_, my condolences but at least there's some sort of fix
[18:01] <Zal> MoPac, sorry if you already went through this, I'm just trying to back up a bit, which I think may help solve your issue.
[18:01] <MoPac> Zal: Several errors. When trying to install a new element for this suite, it cannot find the modules that it needs to hook into. And when using one of the programs, it can't find a library that it needs that I'm sure was part of the installation
[18:01] <Zal> MoPac, let's start with one error at a time. Can you pastebin an exact command and an exact error message?
[18:01] <gh0st_> ok, i'll reboot and go into the bios.  If i don't find it, i'll just come back and we'll try again
[18:02] <Zal> MoPac, and if you get a python error, please pastebin the FULL "traceback" stanza
[18:03] <ankk> how will i open console on latest ubuntu version?
[18:04] <linuxearth> which version of ubunt should be downloaded and installed for using linux in a home pc where all the general work can be done with ease (life even who has little knowledge can do) and from where linux can be learned. I want a little stable version.
[18:05] <MoPac> Zal: Here is an example of a module installation error http://pastebin.com/2N5M8dmQ
[18:05] <italian-cruncher> Ubuntu LTS or Xubuntu LTS
[18:05] <kalkiawi> bwayne: what does create mask do?
[18:05] <ksinha> Ubuntu 12.04
[18:05] <linuxearth> 12.04?
[18:05] <linuxearth> what's lts?
[18:06] <ksinha> long term service
[18:06] <linuxearth> he said ubuntu lts?
[18:06] <italian-cruncher> LTS = 12.04, means Long Term Support
[18:06] <linuxearth> ok so lts version?
[18:06] <linuxearth> it should be used
[18:06] <ksinha> ya support
[18:06] <linuxearth> in it we can work everything with gui?
[18:06] <ksinha> yes
[18:06] <italian-cruncher> yeah linux
[18:06] <linuxearth> ok
[18:06] <linuxearth> thanks
[18:06] <compdoc> linuxearth, its all pretty good. newer versions of ubuntu should have more/improved drivers. but non-LTS version require more upgrades
[18:06] <ksinha> what do you want to use for basically?
[18:06] <italian-cruncher> linuxearth, go on google btw and google images for Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu and choose your one
[18:07] <italian-cruncher> if you don't know the look and feel of each one
[18:07] <linuxearth> basically i need for emailing, printing, typing letters, excel worksheets, bank transactions, videos, pictures (editing also), surfing, skype chating
[18:08] <italian-cruncher> linuxearth, after you download the thing and burn it to a cd, you can try it without installing it if you reboot with the CD in it
[18:08] <linuxearth> oh i see
[18:08] <italian-cruncher> I personally like Xubuntu more than Ubuntu but to each their own
[18:08] <Zal> MoPac, that's not a PYTHONPATH error, that's a cmake error -- something is amiss with that cmake configuration. You may have missed a step, or there may have been a previous error that prevented cmake from configuring properly.
[18:08] <linuxearth> tha'ts a good idea
[18:08] <italian-cruncher> linuxearth, is that computer kinda new or kinda old?
[18:09] <linuxearth> Xubuntu has a better performance?
[18:09] <linuxearth> its a bit older
[18:09] <linuxearth> like i bought it in 2008
[18:09] <italian-cruncher> linuxearth, yeah Xubuntu should feel faster, but 2008 isn't _that_ old
[18:09] <linuxearth> ok
[18:09] <italian-cruncher> I'd still google images to know if you like more the Ubuntu look and feel
[18:09] <italian-cruncher> or the Xubuntu one
[18:10] <linuxearth> Xubuntu is also 12.04?
[18:10] <linuxearth> means it also contains ubuntu?
[18:10] <italian-cruncher> yeah it is an officially recognized ubuntu variant
[18:10] <MoPac> Zal: But in that example, what seems to be amiss with the configuration is that it can't find the right file -- would that be a problem in cmake include?
[18:10] <linuxearth> oh i see
[18:10] <italian-cruncher> linuxearth, its 100% Ubuntu with a different graphical interface
[18:10] <linuxearth> oh
[18:10] <italian-cruncher> same goes for Lubuntu
[18:11] <linuxearth> but then what i try?
[18:11] <italian-cruncher> and Kubuntu (which is another variant but its definitely not for weak computers)
[18:11] <linuxearth> should i first go with x or l or simple ubuntu? because i am confused in all, i just want to start with
[18:12] <linuxearth> or pick anyone
[18:12] <MoPac> Bah, i think I'm just going to try clearing the whole thing out again and starting over, maybe with checkinstall. Annoying because it takes like 2 hours to build the whole package suite
[18:12] <linuxearth> or i just see the pictures of all in google
[18:12] <Calinou> xubuntu
[18:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> linuxearth: go with arch linux ;) but in seriousness, I like lubuntu :P
[18:12] <italian-cruncher> linuxearth, check google images, but I'd go with Xubuntu hands down ;)
[18:12] <Zal> MoPac, could be. Might also be an installation step that you missed, which puts the appropriate file inside the compilation directory. That error is not looking for something on your PYTHONPATH, it's looking for a build file in its own directory tree.
[18:12] <linuxearth> okk
[18:13] <linuxearth> arch linux also ubuntu?
[18:13] <italian-cruncher> NO
[18:13] <linuxearth> ok
[18:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> linuxearth: no, its a breed all its own :P
[18:13] <italian-cruncher> arch linux is the exact incarnation of what you should NOT install provided your desires
[18:13] <linuxearth> i heard people saying ubuntu easy
[18:13] <linuxearth> that's why wanted to know
[18:13] <italian-cruncher> arch is for pro. the hardest distro out there except gentoo
[18:13] <gordonjcp> no
[18:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> linuxearth: hella easy :P
[18:13] <linuxearth> ok
[18:14] <gordonjcp> italian-cruncher: Ubuntu is for "professional" users, Arch most definitely is not
[18:14] <linuxearth> i guess i should check either ubuntu or xubuntu
[18:14] <italian-cruncher> linuxearth, if you are used to Windows, Xubuntu is actually easier than Ubuntu, but Ubuntu is like a toy to play with
[18:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> italian-cruncher: actually I think arch would nice for noobies, assuming they got the wit to actually want to learn.
[18:14] <italian-cruncher> gordonjcp, I mis-used the 'pro' term, I meant 'very skilled at linux'
[18:14] <gordonjcp> italian-cruncher: Arch is for people who like to think that staring at a not-quite-working-properly computer for hours means they are learning
[18:14] <gordonjcp> italian-cruncher: no, it's not really for very skilled users
[18:14] <gordonjcp> italian-cruncher: very skilled Linux users use Ubuntu
[18:14] <deathly> whenever you guys/gals aren't busy, I had a few questions about getting maximum performance on ubuntu 13.04?
[18:14] <italian-cruncher> gordonjcp, I have to disagree on the last one, I also think Debian is for 'professional' users, not Ubuntu, but whatever float your boat
[18:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> linuxearth: ubuntu's unity interface is pretty, but its a resource hot.
[18:15] <italian-cruncher> gordonjcp, your last sentence is purely false
[18:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> *hog
[18:15] <linuxearth> i see the images for both ubuntu or xubuntu and a small eye on arch also, all here are commenting on it!
[18:15] <Zal> funny, for me Slackware was the easiest desktop to install and use out of the box. I guess most people are different.
[18:15] <gordonjcp> italian-cruncher: <shrug>
[18:15] <linuxearth> now a newer one 'slackware'
[18:15] <gordonjcp> italian-cruncher: Debian is okay if you can live with very very old packages
[18:15] <linuxearth> lol
[18:15] <italian-cruncher> LOL linuxearth just wait a moment
[18:16] <italian-cruncher> linuxearth, http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg check this
[18:16] <ace_me> hi all
[18:16] <italian-cruncher> linuxearth, thats the list of all distributions for your choosing comfort
[18:16] <Zal> linuxearth, it's not generally considered "easy", but it was moreso for me, for some reason.
[18:16] <linuxearth> thanks for that link, i see that
[18:16] <ace_me> when I try to telnet myserver 143 and after getting connection I input login name pass I get "login NO Error in IMAP command received by server." any ideea why I am not authorised as the user is created
[18:16] <italian-cruncher> gordonjcp, you should read more about Debian, there is Testing and sid as well for newer packages
[18:17] <ace_me> I try to setup https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixCompleteVirtualMailSystemHowto
[18:17] <linuxearth> oh my god, those all are linux?
[18:17] <gordonjcp> italian-cruncher: I've been using Debian since it was first released
[18:17] <italian-cruncher> exactly.
[18:17] <italian-cruncher> gordonjcp, apparently, not debian testing\sid
[18:17] <Zal> linuxearth, yep
[18:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> linuxearth: yep
[18:17] <linuxearth> debian being the father?
[18:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> linuxearth: nope
[18:17] <bazhang> !ot
[18:17] <gordonjcp> italian-cruncher: yeah, testing is merely out-of-date packages, sid is broken packages
[18:17] <italian-cruncher> debian is the father of ubuntu, yeah, but there are 5 fathers out there
[18:17] <Zal> linuxearth, debian is the ancestor of many, not all
[18:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> linuxearth: father is whatever linus cooked up.
[18:17] <italian-cruncher> gordonjcp, your visions are kinda extreme imho
[18:18] <gordonjcp> italian-cruncher: <shrug>
[18:18] <bazhang> lets get back to Ubuntu support Please
[18:18] <gordonjcp> italian-cruncher: I've been doing it a long time
[18:18] <italian-cruncher> gordonjcp, same here
[18:18] <gordonjcp> italian-cruncher: I use Ubuntu for everything now, even servers
[18:18] <italian-cruncher> gordonjcp, more power to you then ;) I just disagree
[18:19] <linuxearth> i am impressed to see the world of linux! great
[18:19] <italian-cruncher> linuxearth, Linux as a whole is a... philosophy, not just a 'windows I don't pay for'
[18:19] <linuxearth> yes it seems
[18:19] <italian-cruncher> but you can forget about this step temporarily whle you learn it with Ubuntu ;)
[18:19] <italian-cruncher> if you like it, a year from now you will be trying most of the distros in that graph ;)
[18:19] <linuxearth> oh yes, thanks to you for this
[18:19] <linuxearth> lol
[18:19] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: the good thing about Ubuntu is it's quite quick and easy to get going
[18:19] <italian-cruncher> (or not)
[18:19] <italian-cruncher> I finally agree with gordonjcp
[18:20] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: so you can concentrate on actually learning how to use it, rather than how to get it working
[18:20] <linuxearth> yea gordonjcp, that's what i heard
[18:20] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: you won't learn much from distros like Arch and Gentoo
[18:20] <linuxearth> i heard that ubuntu is a good start, in fact very good
[18:20] <kalkiawi> gordonjcp: !ot
[18:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> linuxearth: yep. I've been in the linux world about 2 years, and I've tried about 8 distros
[18:20] <Mathisen> you learn LOADS of stuff just installing gentoo
[18:20] <Mathisen> so thats not true
[18:21] <gordonjcp> Mathisen: really?
[18:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> gordonjcp: boolsheet. he'll learn how linux actually works, instead of point and click magic.
[18:21] <kalkiawi> Mathisen | !ot
[18:21] <gordonjcp> ntzrmtthihu777: no, you don't.  You learn how to type in magic incantations from a web page
[18:21] <kalkiawi> !ot | Mathisen
[18:21] <gordonjcp> we should take this to OT
[18:21] <kalkiawi> was just trying the bot
[18:21] <kalkiawi> you guy continue
[18:21] <linuxearth> i thanks to you all, italian-cruncher, gordonjcp, ntzrmtthihu777 and all others who gave this information and their time, thanks
[18:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> kalkiawi: don't play with the bot in channel, pm it.
[18:22] <linuxearth> bye
[18:22] <italian-cruncher> gordonjcp thinks only ubuntu is worth using and every other distro is for slackers, but whattever
[18:22] <kalkiawi> guy*, but chances are you might get kicked from the channel
[18:22] <gordonjcp> and disrupt the chemtrail antivaccination tinfoilhat fluoride love-in
[18:22] <kalkiawi> ntzrmtthihu777: was learning the commands. what to pm the bot?
[18:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> kalkiawi: but, you are right. this is a support channel, not a "discuss why this linux is better than that linux" channel.
[18:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> kalkiawi: /q ubottu
[18:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, dued is too annoying and high on himself. I'ma ignore him.
[18:25] <ankk> hey
[18:25] <ankk> i'm installing TVtime on latest ubuntu desktop 32bit version
[18:25] <ankk> but it says "applying changes" for a few minutes( more than 10 mins (
[18:26] <ankk> what should i do?
[18:32] <xirre> When using "unzip 'path'" what parameters or steps can be done so that the contents are placed in the directory of the path automatically?
[18:33] <Zal> xirre, not sure I understand, but it sounds like you might be looking for the -d option
[18:34] <Mathisen> xirre  unzip file.zip -d /rootDir
[18:36] <xirre> unzip '/home/xirre/Files/zipfile.zip' zipfile.zip contains UnzippedFiles folder. I want the UnzippedFiles folder to go in Files.
[18:36] <ni95794> akm
[18:39] <Mathisen> xirre if i understand you right " unzip /home/xirre/Files/zipfile.zip -d /home/xirre/Files "
[18:40] <xirre> Tested it, it works. Another thing though..
[18:40] <xirre> Would it be possible to exclude certain file types from being extracted?
[18:41] <Zal> xirre, are you familiar with "man pages" ?
[18:41] <xirre> Not familiar but I know of them.
[18:41] <Zal> xirre, for example, you can type "man unzip" to see all the available options, including the two you've just asked about.
[18:42] <loki__> what software i can use for streaming my video cam?
[18:42] <loki__> something like motion but in real time?
[18:43] <GEEGEEGEE> loki__, VLC
[18:43] <bekks> loki__: mplayer, vlc
[18:45] <ankk> pff
[18:47] <loki__> bekks, hmm, it will be like daemon?
[18:47] <bekks> loki__: No.
[18:50] <karlpinc> Hi.  What's the default umask on ubuntu, both latest and ubuntu 10 lts?
[18:52] <bekks> karlpinc: 0022.
[18:53] <karlpinc> bekks: Thanks.  (That's too bad, no user private group based team collaboration.)
[18:54] <manoel> hello everyone
[18:54] <num7> Can somebody tell me a good linux distribution for the N210Plus samsung device ?
[18:54] <italian-cruncher> hi manoel, ask your question
[18:54] <bekks> karlpinc: That possibility does entirely not depend on a umask, which is changeable.
[18:54] <manoel> i'd like to know if someone knows a good wayt
[18:54] <manoel> to make a IRC boot
[18:54] <SunTsu> num7: what kind of answer do you expect on #ubuntu?
[18:54] <manoel> that collects data in multiple  IRC channels
[18:55] <italian-cruncher> manoel, how is this related to #ubuntu?
[18:55] <manoel> it is not
[18:55] <num7> SunTsu, Can you recommend me a better channel, please?
[18:55] <Zal> manoel, you might try #irc or #programming
[18:55] <italian-cruncher> manoel type /join #irc
[18:55] <karlpinc> bekks: Yes.  And at first glance the rest of the elements are in place.  Still, somebody has to frob the umask, globally-ish, which is, as a rule, not going to happen for various people related reasons.
[18:55] <manoel> #programming
[18:55] <manoel> join #programming
[18:56] <italian-cruncher> manoel type / before join
[18:56] <italian-cruncher>  /join
[18:56] <bekks> karlpinc: Use ACL and dont even care about the umask.
[18:56] <karlpinc> bekks: ACLs are annoying.  YMMV.
[18:56] <Zal> karlpinc, or use a specific directory with the correct permissions
[18:56] <bekks> karlpinc: Or just set directory permissions on the folders for the group.
[18:56] <Mathisen> manoel google " eggdrop "
[18:56] <bekks> karlpinc: "annoying" is no valid reason for "impossible" :)
[18:57] <karlpinc> bekks: That fails when people create new sub-directories.
[18:57] <bekks> karlpinc: Use sticky bits...
[18:57] <karlpinc> bekks: It's a computer.  Nothing's impossible.
[18:57] <karlpinc> bekks: Sticky bits would have to be uid, not gid, because of the umask.
[18:57] <jarkinox> I have searched high and low in the manuals for answers, but I need help, and have to ask you guys
[18:58] <loki__> hmm, there no mjpeg_streamer in ubuntu reps?
[18:58] <jarkinox> please bare with me
[18:58] <jarkinox> I installed Ubuntu server 12.04 LTS on a really old PC
[18:58] <Zal> karlpinc, so use setgid
[18:58] <jarkinox> and I hooked up an external NTFS hard drive
[18:58] <bekks> karlpinc: then use sgid ...
[18:58] <jarkinox> and I can mount it fine, but after a while, it disappears
[18:59] <jarkinox> and I can't figure out why
[18:59] <karlpinc> Zal: Then everybody has to su (or sudo) in order to collaborate.  Either acls or upgs are the right way.
[18:59] <jarkinox> please help
[18:59] <bekks> jarkinox: Whats the output of "dmesg" after your drive vanishes?
[18:59] <Zal> karlpinc, if everyone is in the group that owns the setgid directory, no sudo is required.
[18:59] <jarkinox> i'm trying to figure out how to read the output of dmesg
[19:00] <jarkinox> I will check now
[19:00] <bekks> jarkinox: Pastebin the entire output.
[19:00] <jarkinox> ok
[19:00] <jarkinox> gimme a few
[19:00] <karlpinc> Zal: Any new files will be group unwriteable, unless the umask is changed.  Making it hard to collaborate because creating files becomes a pain.
[19:00] <jarkinox> the hard drive is working at the moment ;-)
[19:00] <jarkinox> after a reboot
[19:00] <bekks> karlpinc: Then use setgid on the files too.
[19:01] <Zal> karlpinc, this is perhaps why you should use a VCS for collaboration.
[19:01] <karlpinc> bekks: The point of upg, and acls is to make it easy.  Anybody in the group can do whatever, just like normal, and the rest of the group can read/write/delte/etc just as if they created the files.
[19:01] <loki__> can't understand why i can't see mjpg in repos
[19:01] <Zal> karlpinc, (among numerous other reasons)
[19:01] <bekks> karlpinc: So use ACL then, if you already know the solution. :)
[19:01] <loki__> mjpg-streamer
[19:01] <jarkinox> ok, so i logged out of the server and then back in and the drive vanished
[19:02] <bekks> !info mjpg-streamer
[19:02] <bekks> loki__: Its not in the repos :)
[19:02] <vimes> hello!
[19:02] <Die_Nadal> I have a hdd that is listed in Gpart as (Warning, Linux Unified Key Setup encryption is not yet supported"
[19:02] <Die_Nadal> Why is it like that?
[19:02] <vimes> I think I\ve fucked up big time, any one know a way out
[19:02] <italian-cruncher> Die_Nadal, you can safely ignore that warning
[19:02] <jarkinox> [   53.204849] cgroup: libvirtd (1321) created nested cgroup for controller "memory" which has incomplete hierarchy support. Nested cgroups may change behavior in the future.
[19:02] <bekks> Die_Nadal: Because you are using encryption on your disk.
[19:02] <jarkinox> [   53.204857] cgroup: "memory" requires setting use_hierarchy to 1 on the root.
[19:02] <jarkinox> [   53.204969] cgroup: libvirtd (1321) created nested cgroup for controller "devices" which has incomplete hierarchy support. Nested cgroups may change behavior in the future.
[19:02] <italian-cruncher> Die_Nadal, it only means you have to manage LUKS from command line
[19:02] <jarkinox> [   53.205108] cgroup: libvirtd (1321) created nested cgroup for controller "blkio" which has incomplete hierarchy support. Nested cgroups may change behavior in the future.
[19:02] <jarkinox> [   62.815741] Adding 1044476k swap on /dev/mapper/cryptswap1.  Priority:-1 extents:1 across:1044476k
[19:02] <FloodBot1> jarkinox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:02] <bekks> !pastebin > jarkinox
[19:02] <Die_Nadal> ok... how do I put stuff on that drive?
[19:02] <bekks> jarkinox: And pastebin the entire output.
[19:02] <vimes> I was backing up pictures from a XP machine to install Lubuntu, but the portable hard drive god cut off by my big foot. Now the original folder with pictures is gone
[19:03] <vimes> and there are none on my usb drive either
[19:03] <vimes> have I lost them forever_
[19:03] <bekks> Die_Nadal: Unencrypt the drive.
[19:03] <jarkinox> ok, sorry guys
[19:03] <Die_Nadal> thanks for the replies... but I want to keep it encrypted...
[19:03] <Die_Nadal> ?
[19:03] <Mathisen> vimes no there is software to "undelete" stuff
[19:03] <jarkinox> http://pastebin.com/me3jSjEd
[19:03] <bekks> Die_Nadal: Then you cant use gparted.
[19:03] <loki__> bekks, why?
[19:03] <Die_Nadal> hmmmm ok...
[19:03] <vimes> but i was just moving it
[19:04] <italian-cruncher> Mathisen, actually there is plenty
[19:04] <vimes> and the USB drive got cut off my accident
[19:04] <bekks> loki__: Because nobody incorporated the package yet,.
[19:04] <bekks> vimes: You have a backup, dont you?
[19:04] <italian-cruncher> Die_Nadal, you don't use Gparted, just mount that volume, format it with a known filesystem and mount it normally
[19:04] <vimes> not my computer
[19:04] <vimes> these people dont know what back ups are
[19:04] <jarkinox> bekks: I used paste bin as requested
[19:04] <Mathisen> italian-cruncher yes there is
[19:05] <bekks> vimes: Then their pictures arent that important. You can use photorec for trying to recover the files.
[19:05] <Die_Nadal> italian-cruncher ... ok, thank you.
[19:05] <italian-cruncher> Die_Nadal, if you need further clarification just ask
[19:05] <italian-cruncher> yeah vimes you can try testdisk package
[19:05] <Zal> vimes, just to be clear, you had a problem backing up to USB using Windows XP, is that right?
[19:05] <bekks> jarkinox: thats not the entire output.
[19:05] <italian-cruncher> but its going to be a bit hard judging by your skill level
[19:06] <vimes> Zal, I was moving files to a USB thingy and cut it off with my foot, now the files are gone
[19:06] <vimes> will check it ut italian-cruncher
[19:06] <loki__> bekks, maybe there is just more better equal software?
[19:06] <Zal> vimes, I guess I was just confused as to why you'd ask here about that
[19:06] <bekks> loki__: I dont know what "mjpg-streamer" is designed for.
[19:06] <jarkinox> bekks: i thought you wanted it since the drive disappeared
[19:06] <italian-cruncher> testdisk is for windows as well, very effective I'd say, saved my ass some times in the past
[19:06] <vimes> im wondering if they are gone forever
[19:07] <loki__> bekks, it get video from your web camer and stream it
[19:07] <Mathisen> vimes no they are not gone forever
[19:07] <bekks> jarkinox: I want the entire output, not just five lines.
[19:07] <vimes> then how do I get them back *downloading testdisk*
[19:07] <bekks> loki__: Use mplayer or vlc, as already being told.
[19:07] <Mathisen> just dont write new data to the disk... that way it will be mutch easyer to get it back
[19:07] <vimes> Im not
[19:07] <vimes> and Im in live usb
[19:08] <Die_Nadal> ok... it is already mounted as media/user/aba2a0c80...... ... why is it like that ?
[19:08] <italian-cruncher> Die_Nadal, are you using Ubuntu, right?
[19:08] <bekks> Die_Nadal: BEcause it gets mounted autonatically to /media/<user>/<label>
[19:08] <Die_Nadal> yes sir.
[19:08] <italian-cruncher> Die_Nadal, then its already formatted, you can already put data on it
[19:09] <Die_Nadal> ok.. I don't have permission to put anything on it..
[19:09] <Die_Nadal> I can fix that ... with chmod ... but I'm wondering why it is like that I guees??
[19:09] <italian-cruncher> Die_Nadal, if your data is important I suggest you to read more about Full Disk Encryption before jumping in it with both feet
[19:09] <bekks> Die_Nadal: BEcause it gets mounted autonatically to /media/<user>/<label>
[19:10] <bekks> Die_Nadal: And as user "<user>", you have permissions to do what you want.
[19:10] <italian-cruncher> Die_Nadal, do a chown nadal:users /media/nadal/aba2a0c80
[19:10] <italian-cruncher> assuming 'nadal' is your username
[19:10] <jarkinox> bekks: here it is: http://pastebin.com/GpADmFcS
[19:10] <italian-cruncher> Die_Nadal, actually, prepend 'sudo' to that line
[19:10] <chabal> }
[19:11] <Die_Nadal> yes go it ...
[19:11] <Die_Nadal> thank you.
[19:11] <bekks> jarkinox: It vanished one minute after rebooting your computer?
[19:11] <Die_Nadal> Thank you Italian-cruncher and Bekks... appreciate the assistance.
[19:12] <italian-cruncher> Die_Nadal, no problem. Be ware that Full Disk Encryption isn't 100% secure. Do your readings ;)
[19:12] <Die_Nadal> Understood, thanks again.
[19:12] <jarkinox> bekks:  no, when I rebooted, I manually mounted it and it worked fine.  then I logged out and logged back in, then it was gone.  sometimes when i remain logged in it disappears also.
[19:13] <bekks> jarkinox: Then the pastebin is useless. Please pastebin dmesg after the drive vanishes.
[19:14] <bekks> jarkinox: And not after it "vanishes" because you log off the user mounting it automatically.
[19:17] <jarkinox> bekks: i'm not understanding you.  you said after it vanishes, but not after it vanishes
[19:17] <Die_Nadal> italian-cruncher what is 100% secure ? lol...
[19:17] <g3ky> Hi, I ran iptables command inside my router, how do i save that rule, over reboot. The router does not have a iptables-save command.
[19:17] <italian-cruncher> Die_Nadal, nothing is, but some people apparently don't know this ;)
[19:18] <numb95> hi I want to learn ruby and ruby on rails and I need a good documentation for them to print! any idea?
[19:19] <bekks> numb95: Ask ##ruby, not #ubuntu :)
[19:20] <vimes> this recovery program, I hope to god that it works and that I did things right
[19:20] <vimes> I have had a tendency latly to do things wrong
[19:20] <Calinou> #ruby not ##ruby
[19:20] <NedMan> noob question, i downloaded linux secondlife, extracted it but cant install it.... no executable files in folder
[19:21] <Hodapp> NedMan: does something need a +x mode set?
[19:21] <bruno00> is it the source that you need to build Nedman?
[19:21] <Mathisen> numb95: http://guides.rubyonrails.org/v3.2.13/
[19:22] <NedMan> I am not sure what i need...
[19:22] <fruco> fanda, ya entro a ubuntu?
[19:22] <Mathisen> NedMan do you have a bz2 file ?
[19:22] <bekks> NedMan: Then what didi you download exactly?
[19:22] <[1]Roach> Hi everyone
[19:23] <NedMan> readme file says i can install it from the extracted folder... it was a Tar file... but icons in folder only open as text files
[19:23] <bruno00> Nedman: you probably need to configure and build it if you downloaded the source
[19:23] <bruno00> do you know how to do that?
[19:23] <NedMan> no, sorry
[19:24] <bruno00> use the terminal and enter the folder you extracted the files into
[19:24] <jarkinox> bekks: to be clear, if I ssh into my server from my laptop, mount the external drive, and then log out, when I log back in it's normal for the drive to no longer be there?
[19:24] <bekks> NedMan: What did you download exactly?
[19:24] <bruno00> type ./configure
[19:25] <bruno00> if now errors occur then type install
[19:25] <bekks> bruno00: First, investigate wether he has the source or not ;)
[19:25] <bekks> jarkinox: Do you mount it as user?
[19:25] <bruno00> true but if all his files are opening as texts the its likely that they are
[19:25] <bruno00> or that it is source... i mean
[19:25] <bekks> bruno00: I dont think so, actually.
[19:26] <jarkinox> bekks: i mount it with sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mount/external
[19:26] <gh057> yo
[19:26] <Mathisen> yo
[19:27] <gh057> how do i apt-get over a proxy?
[19:27] <bekks> jarkinox: Then pastebin dmesg after it vanishes...
[19:27] <bekks> gh057: configure the proxy for apt-get
[19:27] <jarkinox> ok, i'll have to wait for that then, unfortunately
[19:27] <clienthax> I need to give a user access to ssh to tunnel through a server, yet i don't want them to be able to have shell access, is this possible?
[19:27] <bekks> clienthax: No.
[19:27] <gh057> i know once i can apt-get install proxychains i won't need to worry about it anymore, but i just need to be able to apt-get for it
[19:28] <Mathisen> gh057 sudo http_proxy='http://user:pass@proxy.example.com:8080/' apt-get install package-name
[19:28] <gh057> ur gonna have to just set up a proxy server (i guess there's encrypted ones)
[19:28] <gh057> but if u pay me i could prolly write one
[19:28] <bekks> gh057: You dont need to setup a proxy server at all.
[19:29] <gh057> ok
[19:30] <Mathisen> NedMan run " sh install.sh "
[19:30] <gh057> oh.  thanks.  Does it work with socks5?
[19:30] <Mathisen> i just downloaded to check the content
[19:31] <gh057> socks5 proxy
[19:31] <Mathisen> gh057 i cant answer that
[19:31] <gh057> well i'll try it
[19:31] <Tweak_> Hello, running 13.04, got an update message, did an update, after reboot the top and side bar are gone.  Desktop shows, and I can open terminal with the shortcut, any recommendations on how to reverse whatever updates just happened?
[19:31] <linuxuz3r> how do i connect my internet connection to socks5
[19:31] <linuxuz3r> proxy
[19:37] <michagogo> Is there a way of knowing if the package "wine" in the lucid repo has changed in the past 4-5 months?
[19:37] <bekks> michagogo: Take a look at packages.ubuntu.com
[19:42] <Tweak_> Hello, running 13.04, got an update message, did an update, after reboot the top and side bar are gone.  Desktop shows, and I can open terminal with the shortcut, any recommendations on how to reverse whatever updates just happened?
[19:44] <DuncanNZ> The forum doesn't stay logged in, I have to "login with SSO" every time I visit, and more annoyingly it redirects to the homepage after logging in..
[19:45] <daftykins> DuncanNZ: firefox? try clearing your browser cache and/or resetting your profile
[19:45] <DuncanNZ> Chrome
[19:46] <DuncanNZ> and I reset my profile just yesterday
[19:46] <DuncanNZ> so that would delete the cache
[19:46] <tim> anyone get flash installed and working in an Ubuntu 12.04 clean install? I can't watch videos at youtube.com or otherwise.
[19:46] <DuncanNZ> tim: if you use chrome it has flash built in
[19:46] <bekks> tim: Works fine here using chrome.
[19:46] <tim> tried that...same thing
[19:47] <DuncanNZ> but try to avoid using flash as it is proprietary, use http://www.youtube.com/html5 to watch youtube with open technologies
[19:47] <tim> blank box...error, "can't load shockwave flash plugin"
[19:47] <oleb> tim: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:47] <daftykins> tim: installed the flash package? or ^
[19:50] <linuxuz3r> http://www.winrumors.com/microsoft-creates-a-happy-birthday-linux-video-to-celebrate-20-years-of-competition/
[19:54] <gh057> exit
[19:54] <gh057> quit
[19:59] <intrader> Anyone, on nautilus I find that I am unable to associate an executable to an extension. I try the property page for the file with the extension, but the list of executables offered does not contain the executable - the executable exists as a link in /usr/bin/Self to /usr/share/self/0/Self
[20:00] <Ben64> intrader: file extensions aren't really used in linux
[20:02] <snayth> Something not right with bottom Panel. Did some moving of applets and now when I minimize FFox it shoots off screen and does not show icon running in the Panel. Any ideas on correct fix? ?
[20:02] <Zal> file extensions are certainly used to create application associations
[20:03] <Zal> intrader, I don't use nautilus, so no clue, but I'd guess there is some way to specify your own executable to add to the list
[20:07] <intrader> Ben64, Zal the distribution of Self (an old friend) has a snapshot of an image with 'extension .snap'. The file is executable but there is no executable specified in the first line of the .snap file, so there must be a way to 'execute' the snapshot within the VM - the VM is executable in /usr/bin/Self
[20:09] <Zal> intrader, that all makes sense (except perhaps the part about an 'executable image file'), the trick is you need to figure out how to make Nautilus aware of /usr/bin/Self as an option for .snap files.
[20:10] <michagogo> Hmm, I'm trying to find the changelog for binfmt-support
[20:10] <michagogo> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/admin/binfmt-support links to http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/b/binfmt-support/binfmt-support_1.2.18/changelog
[20:10] <michagogo> but that gives a 404
[20:10] <michagogo> Where would I go to find out if that package has been changed in the past few months?
[20:11] <Mathisen> michagogo http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/b/binfmt-support/binfmt-support_1.2.18ubuntu1/changelog
[20:12] <intrader> Zal, that is what is the problem. In the properties page there is an option in the 'Open with' tab, but no way to search for the executable (the VM) or specify the executable /usr/bin/Self
[20:14] <Zal> intrader, maybe you can do it outside of that menu. Go to the file in Nautilus, right-click on the file, choose "Open With"
[20:15] <intrader> Zal, the properties page has an "Open With' tab...
[20:15] <intrader> Zal, but not a way to find or specify a file
[20:15] <Catbus_> hi guys, i've got a little script which toggles my touchpad, is there a way to run it by pressing a combination of keys?
[20:15] <michagogo> Hmm, what might be causing http://paste.ubuntu.com/6162357/ ?
[20:16] <Catbus_> currently i am clicking a shortcut which
[20:16] <Catbus_> currently i am clicking a shortcut which
[20:17] <Zal> michagogo, not running as root?
[20:17] <michagogo> Zal: I thought apt-get will refuse to run entirely in that case
[20:17] <Zyroo> Hello all please see my issue :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6168468/
[20:17] <michagogo> Also, plenty of other packages installing
[20:17] <Catbus_> sorry, which runs the command using a launcher
[20:18] <Zal> michagogo, I don't see any "apt-get" command in your paste
[20:18] <Catbus_> the problem of course is that if i click to disable my touchpad when i don' have my mouse, i corner myself
[20:18] <michagogo> Here's the log that's snipped fromhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6162368/
[20:18] <danderson> Hi. Does the 13.04 regular install offer the option for full-disk encryption? Or do I need to use the alternate installer like in previous versions?
[20:19] <michagogo> danderson: pretty sure it does offer that option
[20:19] <Calinou> danderson: I think it does
[20:19] <Calinou> (lol, encryption)
[20:19] <danderson> that's full-disk encryption, not just /home encryption, right?
[20:19] <Calinou> I think so...
[20:19] <Calinou> never bothered using encryption so I don't know
[20:19] <danderson> okay, I'll give the regular installer a try then.
[20:19] <danderson> thanks!
[20:20] <danderson> (encryption's mostly a theft thing - if someone walks off with my machine, I don't feel like giving them my files as well as my hardware :)
[20:22] <intrader> Ben64, Zal thanks you guys - I will have to read documentation for Self. There used to be a way to specify a file to be executed when one double clicked on a file
[20:23] <Zyroo> danderson:We humans created encryption methods. :)
[20:25] <c8h4r1> ma clé usb n'est pas détecté? que faire?
[20:31] <caspianus> quit
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[20:33] <r04ch-> hi everyone
[20:35] <TuxFalk699> hello
[20:37] <benxyzzy1> Where can I find the initramfs /scripts/local-top/cryptroot online?
[20:41] <entragien> I'm getting issues when trying to set up dual-monitors.  When I try to turn of mirror displays, it gives me an error saying "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3200, 1200), minimum = (320,200), maximum=(1920,1920)"
[20:43] <JoshDreamland> Could someone help me get my SD card reader working on Ubuntu?
[20:44] <JoshDreamland> I have a System76 laptop, and my drivers are current, but it can't read any cards.
[20:44] <mrrcp> exit
[20:44] <SonikkuAmerica> mrrcp: Try /quit !
[20:47] <skorasaurus> !resolution
[20:49] <JoshDreamland> lshw shows that "7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller" is unclaimed
[20:50] <cmb> Hi, I'm having some trouble. I'm having some crashes.  When I try to install something via a package manager, I get this message: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> Catbus_  and did you?
[20:51] <juniour> hi ubuntu
[20:51] <tozen> juniour: hi
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> wrong tab
[20:51] <cmb> When I run that, I get a crash, actually when I try to install anything I get a crash.  Here is the Call Trace :http://postimg.org/image/5rmxvxmoj/
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> cmb  and did you.
[20:51] <cmb> any ideas would be cery helpful
[20:52] <tozen> cmb:  sudo dpkg --configure -a ??
[20:52] <cmb> yes, when I run that, it will crash, when I try to install additional proprietary drivers it will crash also
[20:52] <bekks> cmb: PAstebin all those "crashes".
[20:52] <marklar> cmb: i'm no expert, but do you have any 3rd party drivers on there that you compiled yourself?
[20:52] <tozen> cmb:  also mayhap you'll need to configure /var/lib/dpkg/status manually
[20:53] <cmb> I do not.
[20:53] <macs> hello i am wondering if somebody can help me open a file in text editor from the command line. I have checked StackOverflow but still can't figure it out
[20:53] <daftykins> macs: try nano. "nano /path/to/file"
[20:53] <tozen> cmb: pastebin error please
[20:53] <bekks> cmb: what "I do not" exactly?
[20:53] <Catbus_> MonkeyDust, yeah i do it on occasion
[20:53] <cmb> tozen, ok, I can try that
[20:53] <juniour> macs gedit filename
[20:54] <Catbus_> i got sidetracked sorting out my folders, if i succeed in making this work i'll let you all know
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> Catbus_  it was a wrong tab
[20:54] <juniour> macs or you can use vi editor
[20:54] <daftykins> juniour: gedit is graphical. do you see where the question refers to command line?
[20:54] <tozen> cmb: don't try!! pastebin error first please
[20:54] <ankk> hi
[20:54] <macs> junior: thanks that solved it. I thought the program was called TextEdit or something like that. \
[20:55] <macs> juniour:
[20:55] <juniour> daftykins quesion is open text editor via command line  and this my ans is right
[20:55] <ankk> i've gigabyte u8000 usb tv driver and i couldn't watch analog tv on ubuntu
[20:55] <cmb> tozen, well I can't pastebin it, I can only take a picture of the Call Trace
[20:55] <Zal> macs so as you can see, there are several "text editor" applications to choose from. nano is a particularly friendly one.
[20:55] <ankk> do you have any info about this?
[20:55] <macs> daftykins: thanks I managed to open it with gedit
[20:56] <daftykins> i guess both your commands of the english language meant you were both talking along the same lines :(
[20:56] <bekks> cmb: Why cant you pastebin?
[20:56] <juniour> :)
[20:57] <tozen> cmb: tipe a sudo dpkg --configure -a or sudo apt-get -f install in console then go to paste.ubuntu.com and paste error there copy link here...
[20:57] <macs> zal: hmm. I did nano filename and the command line didnt give me another prompt. I think im just gonna use gedit for now.... and come back to nano another time.
[20:57] <macs> thanks everyone this channel is awesome!
[20:57] <bekks> macs: "nano filename" is not suppsed to give you a prompt. It starts a text editor.
[20:58] <juniour> macs you can also use vi editor
[20:58] <macs> bekks: ah. i guess i don't have it installed.
[20:58] <juniour> macs aor advanced of vi that is vim
[20:58] <bekks> macs: nano is installed by default.
[20:59] <Zal> macs if it were not there, you'd see an error reporting as much
[20:59] <macs> bekks: hmm. wondering why nothing happened then. I got no prompt at all, and pressed control c to get back to the regular prompt.
[20:59] <bekks> macs: So what was the exact command you typed?
[20:59] <Zal> macs, what you are seeing is likely the inside of a new file being edited by nano (perhaps you got the path wrong)
[21:02] <macs> zal, bekks: (by the way, is there any way to call out multiple people at once in iRC?) the exact command I typed was nano hello.html.erb
[21:02] <bekks> macs: you just did it. write their names, separated by comma ...
[21:02] <macs> sweet
[21:02] <bekks> macs: and did the file exist before?
[21:03] <macs> bekks ya
[21:03] <jcorgan> anyone familiar with the casper initrd system?  trying to get a bootable livedvd working with an encrypted squashfs, almost there except getting cryptsetup working during boot
[21:04] <macs> bekks: how about geany
[21:04] <bekks> macs: thats a graphical editor, like gedit.
[21:04] <marklar> jcorgan: http://i.imgur.com/sg017lt.gif
[21:04] <macs> bekks: yeah. By the way, do you know of a keyboard shortcut to minimize programs in Ubuntu?
[21:04] <crocket> How do I integrate thunderbird/lightning into ubuntu calendar widget?
[21:05] <bekks> macs: No, never needed that shortcut.
[21:05] <jcorgan> marklar: lol.  I almost have it working, a lot of steps involved, fortunately all scripted.  But digging through the bowels of casper/initrd to make changes is not fun
[21:08] <marklar> jcorgan: wish I could help you. I figured I'd come here and help if I could, but your problem tops any others I've seen. any similarity here to initramfs's modules?
[21:08] <crocket> anyone?
[21:09] <gordonjcp> !anyone | crocket
[21:09] <crocket> gordonjcp, I already asked the same calendar question twice.
[21:10] <gordonjcp> crocket: well, maybe no-one knows then
[21:12] <jcorgan> marklar: well, i'm not sure; it think casper actually uses initramfs.  i can take the stock one, modify it, and recreate a new initrd.lz that gets mounted at boot.  but there is a maze of scripts that run to set everything before switching to the real root fs, and i'm getting a little lost
[21:12] <skorasaurus> hi, my ubuntu12.04 had, without changing any software or upgrading any packages, changed the resolution of my desktop and I'm unable to fix this, the ubuntu wiki directed me to my x log but it's stating that I missing the "fglrx" module, which I believe I've never installed
[21:13] <skorasaurus> my card is amd radeon 6520g
[21:14] <jcorgan> i need to run cryptsetup to get the encrypted filesystem.squashfs to open, then need to arrange for the created /dev/mapper/xxx to be the rootfs
[21:14] <ss_haze> how to change clearlooks theme close/minimise/windows button size
[21:14] <jcorgan> i think i found a hacky way to do it based on a very dated howto, but when cryptsetup runs it doesn't accept the passphrase and the whole system hangs
[21:16] <marklar> jcorgan: is there a guide you're following? maybe we can make some sense out of this, but, I'm really no expert, I just am up for a challenge.  BTW, i'm assuming you've seen this forum post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1163409
[21:17] <veryhappy> hi guys, is there any ncurses program that shows the progress of a copy?
[21:17] <bekks> veryhappy: No.
[21:18] <veryhappy> no? thought i saw the progress of the copy in mc?
[21:18] <ikonia> doesn't midnight commander do it
[21:20] <jcorgan> marklar: i've seen that but that's using a different approach. this is one of the ones i've been trying to recreate: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1428720
[21:21] <jcorgan> but things have changed since then
[21:22] <jcorgan> i've got a scripts to remaster the squashfs, encrypted it with luks, and recreate a custom initrd, and i can get it all working unencrypted via booting from the created ISO file in virtualbox
[21:23] <jcorgan> but the missing steps are to get the encrypted squashfs mounted at boot.  in that last page, he adds commands to setup_loop() but those same commands are failing for me
[21:25] <marklar> jcorgan: i don't have time to play around with this now, but I can maybe take a look at it over the coming week and try and do it myself. I love playing with encryption. I have a feeling it's a missing module, but my quick checks aren't telling me anything obvious. If you want me to give you a followup email, my email is marklar@vmail.me. Send me one there--if you like--and I'll let you know my progress
[21:26] <jcorgan> marklar: that's a generous offer, i'll take you up on it.  however, the initrd is the same (I think) that ubuntu uses when booting with an encrypted LVM, so I'm pretty sure all the need modules or options are present in the kernel/initrd
[21:28] <jcorgan> once i get this working i'll be able to create livedvd's with custom content, that are almost entirely encrypted and require a passphrase on boot
[21:28] <jcorgan> i've already got it all working without the encryption part
[21:28] <veryhappy> bekks: i tried to look up on the problem with the missing progress bar in the midnight commander, no success... could it be possible that this was removed in a later version?
[21:28] <bekks> veryhappy: Havent used mc for ten years now.
[21:28] <ikonia> veryhappy: check the change logs for the application
[21:29] <veryhappy> ikonia: how do i check the logs in text mode?
[21:29] <jcorgan> veryhappy: i still use mc and am very proud of it, though I get made fun of a regular basis for it :)
[21:29] <ikonia> text mode ?
[21:29] <bekks> veryhappy: Open the changelog in a text editor.
[21:29] <veryhappy> ok, what path?
[21:29] <veryhappy> "/usr/share?"
[21:30] <marklar> jcorgan: sounds good. this will be fun to play with. just fyi, sometimes @vmail.me is thrown to spam.
[21:30] <Catbus_> well chaps, in system settings you can make custom key bindings, and you can just name your bash script as the command, so that was easy in the end. thanks
[21:31] <snayth> Running 10.4 LTS Karmic with Gnome2 - Is there a way to separate the Volume & Mail applets ? ? Would like to just have the Volume applet showing. Thanks
[21:33] <TuxFalk699> hi guys
[21:34] <tozen> TuxFalk699: hi! wazzap?
[21:34] <juniour> hi
[21:34] <bezoka> hi
[21:35] <bezoka> how can I install ubuntu, but I havent pendrive, so I want do it from debian?
[21:35] <tozen> bezoka: cd ?
[21:35] <TuxFalk699> tozen how can install the last release of wine?
[21:35] <bezoka> I havent cd
[21:36] <SchrodingersScat> !info debootstrap | bezoka
[21:36] <SchrodingersScat> bezoka: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebootstrapChroot
[21:36]  * Perni933 rolls on the floor laughing at the name "SchrodingersScat".
[21:37] <SchrodingersScat> Perni933: be bop zippity zow
[21:37]  * Perni933 chuckles
[21:37] <aaas> SchrodingersScat there are multiple definitions of scat..not sure which one perni is laughing at ;)
[21:38] <tozen> TuxFalk699: sudo apt-add-repository  ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa; sudo apt-get update
[21:38] <aPpYe> hi there. ..  I am signing a private repository I am hosting myself.  I adapted much of what is seen here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1999221    ...Everything works fine.  I am unsure what the purpose of the InRelease file is though.  Everything seems to work fine without it.  Also, what is the purpose of putting compressing the packages file into a gz?  Things also work fine with it compressed, uncompressed or both...
[21:40] <SchrodingersScat> bezoka: or you could netboot :3
[21:40] <ss_haze> anybody knows how to make openbox title bar icons like close/minimise bigger?
[21:40] <TuxFalk699> tozen ok i try thanx
[21:41] <tozen> TuxFalk699: no probs
[21:43] <crocket> Does ubuntu have an integrated calendar app?
[21:44] <veryhappy> crocket: depends on the amount of software that you install
[21:47] <Zyroo> Anyone help me out with routing   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6168468/
[21:48] <Zyroo> I have 2 Nic cards one for WAN and other for LAN help me out
[21:48] <ikonia> Zyroo: use iptables and either the forward table, or the nat table
[21:48] <TuxFalk699> tozen thanx
[21:49] <TuxFalk699> now i go to sleep godd night see u tomorrow
[21:49] <TuxFalk699> tozen good night
[21:52] <jmgk> I love Ubuntu
[21:52] <jmgk> :D
[21:54] <tozen> du -sh ~/
[21:54] <tozen> upps sorry guys
[21:55] <crocket> veryhappy, evolution is integrated into panel clock.
[21:55] <crocket> Thunderbird/Lightning is not.'
[21:56] <veryhappy> crocket: if you don't specify how much software you install i can't know what you mean.
[21:56] <crocket> veryhappy, I don't understand what you mean.
[21:57] <veryhappy> crocket: would you have been saying you want to install a minimal system or a normal desktop system
[21:57] <veryhappy> then i would have known it.
[21:57] <crocket> veryhappy, just ubuntu 13.04
[21:57] <veryhappy> ok
[21:58] <crocket> When will ubuntu integrate thunderbird/lightning into unity panel clock?
[21:59] <crocket> evolution beats thunderbird/lightning for just that.
[21:59] <crocket> In other aspects, lightning beats evolution.
[22:03] <jboii> how can i fix this issue ? the software update wont open
[22:03] <ss_haze> jboii: use terminal to update sudo apt-get update
[22:08] <tozen> jboii: what do you mean softwate update?
[22:08] <tozen> jboii: update-manager or software-center?
[22:09] <jboii> i get thisi get this message
[22:09] <tozen> jboii: ??
[22:09] <tanstaafl> ls
[22:09] <tanstaafl> oops, wrong window
[22:10] <dr_willis_> file not found.  ;-)
[22:10] <tozen> dr_willis_: hi! nice to see you
[22:11] <jboii> E: Type 'sudo' is not known on line 57 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:11] <jboii> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[22:11] <jboii> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[22:11] <jboii> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[22:11] <jboii> thats the message i get
[22:12] <bekks> jboii: Then pastebin the /etc/apt/sources.list file.
[22:12] <bekks> jboii: There is something wrong in it.
[22:12] <dr_willis_> jboii:  look at line 57 of that file
[22:12] <jboii> how can i easy fix this so it doesn ruin eerything
[22:12] <bekks> jboii: Pastebin that file.
[22:12] <tozen> jboii:  do as bekks said
[22:12] <bekks> jboii: And/or correct the rror in line 57.
[22:13] <jboii> so  sudo  /etc/apt/sources.list file. ?
[22:13] <bekks> jboii: No. Pastebin the file or correct the error in line 57.
[22:13] <tozen> jboii:  cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:14] <tgm4883> I question what you were doing messing with sources.list if you don't know how to look at a file
[22:14] <tozen> jboii: go to paste.ubuntu.com and paste error there copy link here...
[22:20] <AxiomShell> hi everyone
[22:20] <daftykins> o hi
[22:21] <tozen> AxiomShell: hi! so.
[22:21] <tozen> *so?
[22:21] <AxiomShell> I'm trying to mount an AKAI CD ISO, but it's a proprietary filesystem. My Google-Fu is not strong enough to find any info on how to do it
[22:22] <AxiomShell> I know it's a long shot, but anyone has any tip or experience?
[22:22] <bekks> AxiomShell: CDs cant have othe filesystems rather than iso9660.
[22:22] <AxiomShell> fuseiso aborts with errors
[22:22] <bekks> AxiomShell: Whats the output of the mount command you are trying?
[22:22] <AxiomShell> bekks, thanks. Just a sec.
[22:23] <AxiomShell> fuseiso gives the error "init: wrong standard identifier in volume descriptor 0, skipping.." several times, until it quits
[22:24] <bekks> AxiomShell: You dont need fuseiso to mount an ISO.
[22:25] <bekks> AxiomShell: sudo mkdir /mnt/mycd; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/the.iso /mnt/mycd
[22:26] <AxiomShell> bekks, when using mount, I get "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop5,  missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try  dmesg | tail  or so"
[22:26] <bekks> AxiomShell: Then do as the error message tells you.
[22:26] <bekks> AxiomShell: put dmesg into a pastebin.
[22:26] <AxiomShell> I did ;)
[22:26] <chemaher76> hi all :D
[22:26] <bekks> AxiomShell: Then where is the pastebin?
[22:27] <AxiomShell> bekks, here it is: http://pastebin.com/9d31wra3 :)
[22:28] <macbuntuargh> wifi is extremely slow on my macbook air running 13.04. I've already isolated the problem to the laptop itself - my wifi router is just fine. How can I further investigate this?
[22:28] <bekks> AxiomShell: sudo mkdir /mnt/mycd; sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/the.iso /mnt/mycd
[22:28] <macbuntuargh> and by extremely slow I mean like 50ms ping spikes to my router which is standing right next to me, connection time outs, >200ms pings to google, etc
[22:29] <AxiomShell> bekks, ok, thanks. I'll try again
[22:29] <bekks> macbuntuargh: How did you isolate the problem?
[22:29] <wylde> macbuntuargh: you're aware that being too close to the router can cause issues right?
[22:29] <macbuntuargh> wylde: the problem is independent of the distance
[22:30] <AxiomShell> bekks, nope. same error :( ("mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop5,", etc)
[22:30] <bekks> AxiomShell: And btw, that was dmesg|tail - I wanted dmesg in a pastebin.
[22:30] <AxiomShell> bekks, kk. I'll put it
[22:31] <jboii_> hi
[22:31] <jboii_> the system got stuck
[22:31] <bekks> jboii_: When doing what?
[22:31] <jboii_> what am i supposed to paste i that ubuntu page
[22:31] <jboii_> fixing sources
[22:31] <macbuntuargh> bekks: the connection is only flaky when running ubuntu. If I boot back to macos, everything's fine and dandy. This happens on every wifi router I've tried so far. None of my other (non-ubuntu) devices have any problems with wifi at home.
[22:31] <bekks> jboii_: Paste the file mentioned above.
[22:32] <macbuntuargh> bekks: and I've looked at nethogs to ensure nothing unexpected was using up bandwidth
[22:33] <jboii_> name is the name i got in system?
[22:35] <bekks> jboii_: You told us the file name.
[22:35] <tanstaafl> jboii: the sources list I believe
[22:36] <AxiomShell> bekks, here it is: http://pastebin.com/HmKKRfLM
[22:37] <jboii_> syntax is text only?
[22:37] <bekks> AxiomShell: Looks like a broken cd/dvd.
[22:37] <bekks> jboii_: syntax doesnt matter for posting.
[22:37] <AxiomShell> bekks, yeah. I was afraid that might be the problem...
[22:37] <jboii_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6168912/
[22:38] <AxiomShell> bekks, thanks for your help!
[22:40] <jboii_> what i need to do next?
[22:40] <macbuntuargh> bekks: this is a BCM43224 broadcom internal wireless card btw (driver is brcmsmac 3.8.0-3-generic)
[22:41] <bekks> jboii_: Read line 1 of your pastebin, and pastebin the file mentioned there.
[22:41] <Xerophyte> Hello Everyone
[22:42] <jboii_> how can i get source list?
[22:42] <jboii_> what sudo?
[22:42] <bekks> jboii_: "pastebin that file".
[22:42] <bekks> jboii_: you dont need sudo to do so.
[22:42] <jboii_> save it and?
[22:42] <bekks> jboii_: pastebin it.
[22:43] <jboii_> copy in terminal ?
[22:43] <bekks> jboii_: Do not edit that file, but pastebin it.
[22:43] <tanstaafl> jboii: open the file in a text editor, select all the text, paste that into pastebin
[22:44] <bekks> Or just upload it to the pastebin, using your browser.
[22:47] <skorasaurus> !z
[22:47] <skorasaurus> !x
[22:47] <michagogo> or, use pastebinit
[22:47]  * Xerofyte is new to ubuntu. I cannot find drivers for my display card.
[22:48] <wylde> Xerofyte: have you tried the Additional Drivers tool?
[22:48] <Xerofyte> wylde, Yes brother But the List was showing nothing
[22:51] <ggherdov> hello. is there an ubuntu web page for all things apache ?
[22:51] <Xerofyte> wylde: There it is I have got the List Updated Now. There are three Drivers in the List. Which is the Best Now?
[22:51] <wylde> Xerofyte: alrighty. Just asking. It seems to get overlooked fairly often. Might as well share the output of lspci | grep -i vga
[22:51] <daftykins> ggherdov: even better than that, there are apache pages for all things apache
[22:51] <jrib>  ggherdov what is the actual thing you want to know about?
[22:51] <wylde> Xerofyte: no idea. I don't know what crad you have or what it shows on your screen ;)
[22:52] <wylde> card*
[22:52] <Xerofyte> :D I will tell you wylde:
[22:53] <Xerofyte> wylde:  this is the Output: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV41GL [Quadro FX 3450/4000 SDI] (rev a2)
[22:53] <ggherdov> jrib: how to enable mod_proxy , but also why in the guide I am reading it mentions /etc/apache2/modules/ and I don't have that folder. I thought that an overview on "the ubuntu way" could be helpful
[22:54]  * ggherdov uhm... https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/httpd.html
[22:55] <chstburstr> !rules
[22:55] <wylde> Xerofyte: what options does the additional driver tool offer?
[22:55] <chstburstr> is this the right place to ask for installation help?
[22:55] <Xerofyte> Option 1. Nvidia accelerated graphics driver (post-release updates) (version 173-Updates)
[22:56] <Xerofyte> 2. Nvidia accelerated graphics driver (version 304) [Recommended]
[22:56] <Xerofyte> And Option 3: Nvidia accelerated graphics driver (post-release updates) (version 304-Updates)
[22:56] <Random832> I'm having problems with dual boot
[22:56] <wylde> Xerofyte: Option 2 is likely the safest
[22:57] <Random832> When I turn secure boot on, I can't boot to windows at all - when I turn it off, I can't make it default to GRUB, I have to press F9 every boot
[22:57] <philC> same, windows 8 does not like to share
[22:57] <Xerofyte> wylde: Yes Bro Because it says [recommended]  The other two with updates, that means those are gonna update additional stuff or what..?
[22:58] <daftykins> Random832: sounds like you didn't install ubuntu in EFI mode
[22:58] <Random832> anyone here know about GRUB and UEFI?
[22:58] <Random832> daftykins: i didn't get any kind of prompt for that
[22:58] <daftykins> you won't
[22:58] <daftykins> !uefi | Random832
[22:58] <bekks> !anyone | Random832
[22:58] <daftykins> Random832: have a look there to confirm that you booted in UEFI mode
[22:58] <Random832> and when i installed it in the first place, secure boot was enabled, and it boots to ubuntu just fine, just not windows
[22:59] <Random832> am i going to have to reinstall?
[22:59] <wylde> Xerofyte: Option 3 has been updated since the driver was released. Personally first go I stick with the recommended unless there's been some major improvement/fixes included in the updates
[22:59] <Random832> bekks: i already stated my question, if you were paying attention, and all i got was someone else having the same problem
[22:59] <mwallacesd> ARghhhhhhhhh
[22:59] <mwallacesd> (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
[22:59] <Random832> bekks: do you just automatically do that whenever anyone says "anyone"?
[23:00] <wylde> Xerofyte: your option of course. I just think the recommended is safest.
[23:00] <Random832> try scrolling up for context
[23:00] <mwallacesd> How can I run jsp into apache webserver on ubuntu?
[23:00] <Random832> daftykins: what am i looking for
[23:01] <daftykins> Random832: see the black vs. purple boot screens for legacy vs UEFI boot?
[23:01] <Xerofyte> wylde: Thanks for the Feedback brother.. :)
[23:01] <Random832> the boot screen is purple when secure boot is on
[23:01] <Random832> but then i can't select windows 8 from grub
[23:01] <wylde> Xerofyte: np :)
[23:01] <Random832> it says it can't load the ntfs module in secure boot mode
[23:02] <jboii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6168945/
[23:02] <jboii> thats the file
[23:02] <jboii> system is slow
[23:03] <philC> same, windows 8 does not like to share
[23:04] <philC> oops
[23:04] <Xerofyte> How can I check the Current vesion of my Distro through Terminal?
[23:04] <MonkeyDust> Xerofyte  lsb_release -sd
[23:05] <Xerofyte> MonkeyDust: Thanks :)
[23:06] <bekks> jboii: Which file is that?
[23:06] <jboii> second paste filee
[23:06] <bekks> jboii: Which file is it?
[23:07] <Xerofyte> Okay now that I have got the Version Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS. Is Compiz 0.9.9 Stable with this Version with Core2Duo 2.4, 3GB RAM and 250 Graphic Card?
[23:07] <mwallacesd> What does mean lsb from lsb_release -sd MonkeyDust ???
[23:07] <jboii> xanal
[23:07] <Xerofyte> 250* MB Graphics
[23:07] <bekks> jboii: You dont want to answer the questions, dont you?
[23:07] <jboii> 57 the message says
[23:07] <Xerofyte> mwallacesd: lsb_release -sd is used to check the current version of your Distro
[23:08] <jboii> i am new to ubuntu so i dont get what u mean
[23:08] <bindi> Xerofyte: he's asking what does LSB stand for
[23:08] <RoDiMuS-X> Anyone know how to change from Ubuntu-gnome to Ubuntu via package manager?
[23:08] <bindi> linux standard base, i guess
[23:08] <Xerofyte> oh my bad bindi
[23:08] <mwallacesd> I could see it. I am asking about the contraction LSB something as Linux System Base????
[23:08] <wylde> jboii: what is the name of the file that you pasted.
[23:08] <mwallacesd> Xerofyte, ☢◡☢
[23:08] <bekks> jboii: Paste the file mentioned in the error message. /etc/...
[23:08] <Random832> i can't figure this out
[23:09] <jboii> download.html
[23:09] <bekks> jboii: Thats totally wrong.
[23:10] <bekks> jboii: /wii jboii
[23:10] <bekks> Sorry.
[23:10] <macbuntuargh> bekks: welp, switching to broadcom's proprietary driver (wl) didn't help - weird
[23:10] <chstburstr> I'm attempting an install, however the live cd/usb x server cannot start
[23:10] <Xerofyte> Okay now that I have got the Version Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS. Is Compiz 0.9.9 Stable with this Version with Core2Duo 2.4, 3GB RAM and 250 MB Graphic Card?
[23:10] <chstburstr> can anyone help me?
[23:10] <Xerofyte> chstburstr,  Just write your problem here
[23:10] <daftykins> chstburstr: give this a go...
[23:10] <daftykins> !nomodeset | chstburstr
[23:11] <chstburstr> !nomodeset | chstburstr
[23:11] <jboii> i clicked on the download link mentiond , and it took me to launchpad login
[23:11] <jboii> do you want that link ?
[23:12] <bekks> jboii: No.
[23:12] <bekks> jboii: You shall not click on any download links.
[23:12] <wylde> jboii: that want the contents of a file on your hard drive.......
[23:12] <bekks> jboii: You should pastebin the file mentioned in your error message.
[23:12] <wylde> they*
[23:13] <jboii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6168945/
[23:13] <jboii> and it made that one
[23:13] <jboii> thats the second pastbin
[23:13] <bekks> jboii: that is irrelevant.
[23:13] <bekks> jboii: For the last time: pastebin the file mentioned in your error message.
[23:15] <krux> he should just install pastebinit --- sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat /etc/apt/sources.list |pastebinit
[23:15] <bekks> krux: He already pasted an error emssage he got using the pastebin website.
[23:15] <bekks> krux: He fails on doing the same a second time.
[23:17] <Random832> ok now i can't put it back to booting grub by default, can someone help me?
[23:17] <Random832> it was booting to grub by default after i first installed, but then i went in and turned secure boot off so i could run windows, now it defaults windows all the time
[23:17] <loki__> if there way to restrict using sertaint ips for application which tries to bind on all ip addresses?
[23:17] <bekks> loki__: That depends on the application.
[23:18] <jboii> so the file that got created after first paste , i should save to desk right?
[23:18] <BlueProtoman> How can I install a 32-bit Java on Ubuntu 13.04, alongside 64-bit Java?
[23:18] <loki__> bekks, it have not got such option.
[23:18] <jboii> open that one, and copy info to a new pastebin
[23:18] <jboii> ?
[23:18] <wylde> loki__: typically in their configuration files.
[23:18] <loki__> it tries bind on all ports
[23:18] <Random832> and i can't figure out the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[23:18] <EvilBlob> Random832, I think rebooting from a live CD and then running boot-repair should fix that
[23:19] <bekks> loki__: Are we supposed to guess the aplication and what you are doing there? :)
[23:19] <Random832> is boot-repair a command?
[23:19] <bekks> jboii: No.
[23:19] <loki__> bekks, mjpg-streamer
[23:19] <EvilBlob> It's a program. I think it comes preinstalled on the Ubuntu live CD
[23:19] <loki__> bekks, i found how to install it, but get stucked again
[23:19] <bekks> jboii: Pastebin the file mention in line 1 of your error message.
[23:19] <loki__> i can set port but not address
[23:20] <bekks> jboii: Maybe you will find someone else patient enough. It will not be me.
[23:20] <EvilBlob> Or you can follow this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[23:20] <Random832> DAMMIT
[23:20] <Random832> i lost my usb drive
[23:20] <bekks> loki__: I dont know that application at all.
[23:20] <EvilBlob> -.-
[23:20] <Random832> is there a way to fix it without the livecd?
[23:20] <loki__> bekks, so what reson was to metion it :D
[23:21] <EvilBlob> Not that I know of, but I'm not too incredibly knowledgeable
[23:21] <bekks> loki__: I did not mentioned it at all. I told you two times to use mplayer or vlc.
[23:21] <loki__> bekks, i am about name of application)
[23:21] <tgunr> anyone with supermicro server experience? I have a x7dca-l which i powered on 4 times, now it won't power on
[23:21] <BlueProtoman> How can I install a 32-bit Java on Ubuntu 13.04, alongside 64-bit Java?
[23:21] <wylde> !info mjpg-streamer
[23:22] <Xerofyte> How can I check the Notifications
[23:23] <wylde> BlueProtoman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch
[23:23] <jboii> only synaptic will open and show message that says , row 57 is what isnt functional
[23:23] <jboii> thats the message i copied in pastebin
[23:23] <bekks> jboii: And it tells you the filename of the file where line 57 is not working.
[23:23] <bekks> jboii: So pastebin that file.
[23:24] <BlueProtoman> wylde: Thanks, but Java doesn't seem to have any 32-bit packages.
[23:25] <wylde> BlueProtoman: you won't see any until you install the ia32libs
[23:25] <Xerofyte> I mean how can I check the last notification which appeared in the Doc above.
[23:25] <wylde> BlueProtoman: and make your system multiarch
[23:25] <chstburstr> from the text grub, how does one invoke nomodeset?
[23:25] <bekks> !nomodeset | chstburstr
[23:25] <BlueProtoman> wylde: How do I do the latter?
[23:26] <wylde> BlueProtoman: fair warning, you're going to be pulling a ton of extra libs
[23:26] <BlueProtoman> wylde: Mind elaborating?
[23:30] <loki__> how i can simply start my command on boot of ubuntu?
[23:30] <loki__> for example this sudo -u motion mjpg_streamer -b -i "input_uvc.so -r 1280x720 -f 30 -d /dev/video0" -o "output_http.so -p 8090 -w /usr/www"
[23:31] <bekks> !autostart
[23:31] <jrib> loki__: proper way is to create an upstart service
[23:31] <vadi> I've got an arbitrary set of data that is zipped - how can I make it so gzip will unzip it for me? It says "not in gzip format" at the moment (file just says "data")
[23:32] <loki__> found this http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[23:32] <bekks> vadi: gzip will unpack .gz only, not .zip
[23:32] <vadi> Oh
[23:32] <bekks> vadi: those are different formats.
[23:32] <vadi> What is a more proper tool to use?
[23:32] <bekks> vadi: "unzip"
[23:32] <vadi> Thank you
[23:33] <chstburstr> During a live boot, I am dumped to a command prompt without a GUI.  I attempted to use nomodeset, but either it is not the issue, or I have implemented it incorrectly.
[23:33] <jboii> the message i got first  i pastebin and copied to u
[23:33] <wilee-nilee> chstburstr: have you checked the sum?
[23:33] <wylde> BlueProtoman: I've only ever bothered adding i386 once and it wasn't on an ubuntu box. I'm not 100% certain it's the same. On another debian based box  I simpy ran sudo dpkg --add-architecture <arch>
[23:33] <jboii> the document that was created , i downloaded and copied info to pastebin , and this was created
[23:34] <chstburstr> Sum checks out fine
[23:34] <chstburstr> As does the disk
[23:34] <jboii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6169071/
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> chstburstr: this a usb or dvd?
[23:34] <jboii> the filename that software updater said it was named , is xanal
[23:34] <bekks> jboii: Thats wrong. No one here said "download a file".
[23:34] <chstburstr> wilee-nilee, usb
[23:35] <chstburstr> wilee-nilee, there is no dvd drive available right now
[23:35] <bekks> jboii: And finally, you got me to get tired. I am resting your case. Someone else may help you.
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> chstburstr: how are you loading it?
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> chstburstr: how are you loading it?sb
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> Usb*
[23:35] <chstburstr> I used the windows pendrive installer
[23:35] <jboii> software updater wont open offcourse ,, only synaptic opens and it says only row 57
[23:36] <chstburstr> wilee-nilee, pendrive installer, to load from usb
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> chstburstr: I would try another, and check the web with your hardware ie the computer to see 9f there are problems in general. Last is this a dualboot?
[23:38] <jboii> if i start the reebot the system , will i be able to load the system?
[23:38] <chstburstr> wilee-nilee, it will be a dual boot.  I've tried Ubuntu 13, and the LTS, linux mint, and xbuntu
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> chstburstr: Is the computer uefi?
[23:39] <chstburstr> wilee-nilee, yes, I am using the AMD 64 iso
[23:39] <chstburstr> wilee-nilee, and it's an AMD A6 chip... so that happens to work out
[23:40] <EvilBlob> AMD64 just means 64-bit, you don't need an AMD chip
[23:40] <chstburstr> right... it just is nice to work out that way
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | chstburstr
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> !uefi
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> chstburstr: not sure why the bot does not kick the uefi info, here is more. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[23:44] <chstburstr> wilee-nilee, thank you for that information.  MY wife has informed me that dinner is my job tonight.  I will research and possibly come back later
[23:44] <chstburstr> I appriciate your help
[23:45] <arooni-mobile> how do i download the separate+ plugin for gimp ?  ubuntu 13.04
[23:46] <wilee-nilee> chstburstr: ahh dinner cool, enjoy
[23:48] <wylde> !info gimp-plugin-registry
[23:48] <arooni-mobile> how can i fix this: Unsupported color mode: CMYK ... gimp 2.8.x ubuntu 13.04
[23:50] <wylde> arooni-mobile: they may have a good idea over in #gimp
[23:51] <bekks> arooni-mobile: use a supported color mode.
[23:52] <arooni-mobile> id think cmyk shouldnt be impossible to support
[23:52] <arooni-mobile> but im not a gimp dev
[23:53] <macbuntuargh> dpkg -L wicd-daemon claims that the package has a file /etc/wicd/dhclient.conf.template.default, but that file is nowhere to be found. I tried to reinstall the package, but the file still isn't there. Why?
[23:53] <macbuntuargh> (wicd is failing to start because that file is missing)
[23:54] <macbuntuargh> oh god why did I look at the source code my eyes