[01:37] <shao_lo> Can anyone tell me where to find info on phonon-backend-gstreamer1.0?
[02:13] <arthurfiggis> hello :) just as a general question, regarding steam for linux...how have people running kubuntu found it in general with regards to the games functioning well? i'm debating installing it and buying a few games, but if they only work well in ubuntu proper...well, let's just say I don't like unity much...or the dash lens, xmir, and a laundry list of other odd decisions :(
[03:29] <skreech_> I wouldn't think that there was a difference in KDE
[05:59] <Guest37032> Here is the story. I got new laptop with win 8, i tried to install kubuntu next to it but as i remember there is some problems installing kubuntu next to win 8. so i dumped win 8 and installed only kubuntu. Now i tried to install the win 7 but i get the error that says windows failed to start.a recent hardware or software channge might be the cause.
[06:05] <vicTROLLA> Hello. I have 3 monitors running in the same resolution. My middle monitor is not widescreen like the left and right. My desktop is cut off on the top and bottom. I'm not sure how to fix this
[06:05] <vicTROLLA> Also, when I try to adjust layout through display settings it has my right most monitor stuck on position absolute. Won't let me choose any other options
[06:06] <soee> Guest37032, Windows 8 was preinstalled ?
[06:06] <Guest37032> yes
[06:06] <soee> and what the was the problem with it ?
[06:09] <Guest37032> as i sayd i   was not able to install kubuntu next to it so i installed only kubuntu and deleted windows partition
[06:10] <Guest37032> now im trying to install win 7 first and kubuntu after that
[06:10] <Guest37032> i need to use some windows programs sometimes
[06:12] <Guest37032> so the i get the error when i insert win cd and restart the comp.
[06:15] <thelionroars> Guest37032, the manufacturer might have advice on how to install Windows 7 on your laptop
[06:15] <thelionroars> once that's done installing kubuntu beside it will be easier
[06:15] <Guest37032> yeah i know that
[06:17] <soee> i wonder why you couldn't install Kubuntu next to Win8 :)
[06:23] <skreech__> Guest37032: What laptop?
[06:24] <Guest37032> samsung chronos 7
[06:24] <skreech__> When you say the win7. Did the laptop come with a Windows 7 ?
[06:26] <Guest37032> no it come with win 8
[06:26] <Guest37032> i dont want win 8
[06:28] <Guest37032> and there was some issues installing linux beside to win 8
[06:28] <skreech__> http://www.samsung.com/us/support/howtoguide/N0000137/9509/95656/NP700Z3A-S01US
[06:28] <skreech__> >_>
[06:28] <skreech__> That's the page on installing Windows on that laptop
[06:29] <skreech__> http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/NP700Z3A-S01US?
[08:46] <Guest37032> does anybody know why konqueror wont load favicon when i bookmark the page. Favikon is shown on url bar but when i bookmark the page it wont show the favicon in bookmark toolbar
[09:40] <excognac> hi all. if i have a live-usb stick with boot-repair on it and laptop wouln't boot from it even boot order is properly set, is there anyway to use it while having an old kubuntu live-cd functioning properly?
[09:41] <excognac> the usb stick was created with sudo dd if=... of= so i assume it's ok
[10:06] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:18] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[13:48] <exosus> should i be worried if i try to resize ntfs partition with KDE part manager and  it's been on 16% for about 15 min?
[13:52] <Pupnik> resizing can take a long time
[13:56]  * ablyss is upgrading to 13.04
[13:59] <exosus> yeah, it's working. I was asking because it was taking so long only  just to prepare before resizing
[14:12] <BluesKaj> exosus:  if the resize is large then it has to move a lot of data,then it can take hours
[14:39] <ablyss> exosus, don't worry, my upgrade is taking pretty long too
[14:45] <frank67> Hi everybody, I've installed Kubuntu 13.10 beta2 amd64 and I want to edit mp3 files via Kwave so I have also installed libmad0,lame and libid3 in order to have Kwave import of mp3 working but it doesn't, should I file a bug against Kwave?
[14:46] <frank67> TIA
[14:48] <BluesKaj> frank67:  best to ask in #ubuntu+1
[16:18] <ablyss> upgrade complete...time to reboot
[17:54] <simon> hello
[18:44] <rodnice> adsf\
[18:52] <rodnice> hello?
[18:55] <poee> hi. is the update notification that came out today for an LTS?
[18:57] <rodnice> hello
[18:57] <rodnice> is anyone here?
[18:58] <poee> yes
[18:58] <poee> hi rodnice
[19:01] <rodnice> hello poee
[19:02] <rodnice> I'm new to all this
[19:02] <rodnice> :-(
[19:02] <Guest66340> hellow
[19:04] <rodnice> hello
[19:11] <rodnice> is it possible to run iTunes on Linux?
[19:19] <rodnice> hello?
[19:20] <Guest69712> hola como estan
[19:21] <TheLordOfTime> rodnice, hiya
[19:21] <TheLordOfTime> rodnice, the way to check the answer to your question is to check the wine compatibility DB
[19:21] <TheLordOfTime> !wine
[19:21] <TheLordOfTime> !appdb
[19:22] <TheLordOfTime> rodnice, and then look up iTunes under the appdb link there
[19:22] <TheLordOfTime> from my experience, you can get iTunes to sorta work, but it can't be used for syncing iphones and such reliably under Linux
[19:24] <rodnice> hey\sorry
[19:24] <rodnice> (just a second)
[19:24] <rodnice> thanks TL
[19:25] <rodnice> man, no iTunes for Linux? I don't really care but all these Apple addicts I have as friends... I'm trying to sell them on Linux
[19:26] <TheLordOfTime> rodnice, Apple doesn't like Linux :P
[19:26] <TheLordOfTime> it's apple's fault.
[19:26] <rodnice> Ahhh! I thought so!
[19:26] <TheLordOfTime> that's basically the only reason I keep Windows around - iTUnes + games.
[19:26] <rodnice> O/S wars!
[19:26] <TheLordOfTime> rodnice, you'd need to figure out Wine (windows application) compatibility
[19:27] <TheLordOfTime> and i know for a fact iTunes in Wine doesn't behave well with iOS devices
[19:27] <TheLordOfTime> sync doesn't work very well
[19:27] <rodnice> ok, Wine compatibility list at WineHQ
[19:27] <rodnice> gotcha
[19:27] <TheLordOfTime> rodnice, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347  <--
[19:27] <TheLordOfTime> just go there
[19:27] <rodnice> I refuse to ever own an apple device, so I'm ignorant of all that
[19:28] <TheLordOfTime> looks like 11.0.4 has meh results
[19:28] <TheLordOfTime> well, gold results on certain versions of Wine
[19:28] <TheLordOfTime> but, AFAICT, it's got mostly garbage or bronze ratings
[19:28] <TheLordOfTime> which don't make it look all that well supported
[19:29] <TheLordOfTime> i'd have to dig around in the specific test cases posted, and I"m too lazy/busy to do that today
[19:31] <rodnice> lol man thank you so much though for helping me out
[19:31] <rodnice> I'm reading up on it now
[19:32] <rodnice> so where is everyone else?  I'm not sure if I'm even doing this IRC thing properly
[19:36] <Daskreech> TheLordOfTime: Why do you have Itunes?
[19:36] <TheLordOfTime> Daskreech, because my phone is an iPhone
[19:36] <TheLordOfTime> so OS updates requires iTunes
[19:37] <TheLordOfTime> Daskreech, but i also have a requirement for Visio for stuff which necessitates Windows so...
[19:37] <TheLordOfTime> it's more of a side effect of needing things that only work on Windows
[19:37] <TheLordOfTime> (dual boot!)
[19:38] <Daskreech> :-)
[19:38] <Daskreech> They still require ITunes to interfacewith an IOS device?
[19:39] <rodnice> i don't have an iPhone myself, but I want to be able to be a resource to friends and family
[19:41] <Daskreech> I doubt that iTunes would ever be a good fit on Linux
[19:41] <rodnice> awww
[19:41] <rodnice> OK
[19:42] <Daskreech> It's a Unix Program written to be out of sync in  UNIX land ported to Windows and translated to Linux which is also breaking UNIX conventions and going in the opposite direction of Apple
[19:43] <Daskreech> But I honestly find people steeped in Apple without knowledge to be on the far end of the spectrum of people  opposite of those who enjoy Linux
[19:45] <rodnice> Yes, I'm somewhat of an inbetweener... never understood an MP3 player that costs more than $40, yet not smart enough to be good on Linux
[19:45] <rodnice> I plan on committing myself to Linux for the next 12 months
[19:45] <Daskreech> I don't think at this point you need to be smart to be on linux
[19:46] <Daskreech> To (ab)use it well yes :)
[19:46] <Daskreech> but My mom used Linux for a few months and she's not used computers before
[19:47] <rodnice> lol
[19:49] <Daskreech> rodnice: How long have you been using Linux?
[19:51] <rodnice> Um, since 2 weeks ago
[19:51] <rodnice> and I have my fairly computer illiterate friend converted too lol
[19:51] <rodnice> but like I suspected, he's doing as good as me since I need to unlearn Windows
[19:52] <rodnice> I'm on Kubuntu 13 x32 and I gave him Mint 15 x32
[19:52] <rodnice> "Could not connect to the iTunes store" ... yeah, my attempt just bombed
[19:57] <Daskreech> Yeah It does some strange things :)
[19:57] <rodnice> grr... I think lol
[19:57] <Daskreech>  I'd say in another 3 weeks You'll know if you want to stick around
[19:58] <rodnice> Philosophically, I want to stick with Linux
[19:58] <Daskreech> But Kubuntu is pretty neat :)
[19:58] <Daskreech> Drink deep or not at all :)
[19:59] <rodnice> yeah, I'm ready
[19:59] <Daskreech> what's the philosophy? ?
[19:59] <rodnice> Less pirated software I would need to function
[20:00] <rodnice> nice little cool educational programs
[20:00] <rodnice> and I wanna be a computer nerd!
[20:00] <Daskreech> That will work :)
[20:00] <rodnice> I wanna be good like the command-line addicts
[20:01] <lordievader> Whoo command-line addicts, now that's a good addiction :)
[20:01] <Daskreech> rodnice: I'd say keep one open so you can play with it and you can read up on !bash
[20:01] <Daskreech> !bash
[20:02] <rodnice> OK, noob question, what should I use the command line for normally?
[20:02] <rodnice> I'm not a server admin (yet)
[20:04] <rodnice> I need some sort of mental work flow for using the command line
[20:04] <lordievader> rodnice: The fun thing about linux is that the command line can replace the entire desktop. Imagine doing (most) of the things you do on a desktop in the terminal :)
[20:05] <lordievader> Most cases this isn't very practical though...
[20:05] <rodnice> It sounds amazing, I just want to make it a reality
[20:06] <lordievader> rodnice: Read a lot about the terminal (this includes man-pages) and try stuff out (perhaps in a vm).
[20:10] <rodnice> yeah, I'm about to make use of several library books.  I managed to get through a 300 page  Ubuntu book last week
[20:10] <rodnice> I wrote down all the commands in there (only located in the last chapter).
[20:11] <rodnice> but it's like, now what?
[20:12] <rodnice> make directories all day long?
[20:12] <rodnice> mkdir -now--thendelete
[20:14] <lordievader> rodnice: Learn new commands, make bash-scripts with those commands, explore, experiment :)
[20:14] <rodnice> ahhh bash scripts... is that like a file that runs all of my codes all at once?
[20:17] <rodnice> I apologize for my basic questions
[20:19] <lordievader> rodnice: A bash script contains lines of commands, when run the bash interpreter serially goes over each line and runs the command.
[20:20] <rodnice> oh sweet! I've been trying to do something like that with these 9 lines of code I keep using
[20:22] <rodnice> I'll research that
[20:22] <lordievader> rodnice: For example this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6172879/ A script to either load or set the gamma of a monitor.
[20:24] <rodnice> whoa... OK, I'm understanding. how do you run it? Go to console and  just say run foo?
[20:24] <rodnice> konsole*
[20:25] <rodnice> dumb question
[20:25] <rodnice> forget I asked that lol... just type the file name, correct?
[20:26] <lordievader> rodnice: If it has execution rights you can just call it with ./<name-of-script> (assuming here you are in the same folder as the script).
[20:30] <rodnice> of course... thanks man
[20:30] <rodnice> hm... so I can burn a CD with command line?
[20:32] <rodnice> a/s/l? (do we still say that in chat?)
[20:33] <lordievader> rodnice: You can probably burn a cd, yes. a/s/l?? Not something I'm familiar with.
[20:33] <rodnice> oh lol sorry age/gender/location
[20:35] <lordievader> rodnice: Ah you are one of those. You know what I say to people who ask those kind of things? Stick around long enough and you'll find out ;)
[20:36] <rodnice> oh ok, lol I didn't really care but my friend was amazed that I'm talking with someone (he's newish to the computer world).
[20:36] <rodnice> where is everyone else?
[20:36] <lordievader> !idle
[20:37] <lordievader> Hmm... well that doesn't work, most are idling. Anyhow this is starting to become a topic for #kubuntu-offtopic.
[20:43] <rodnice> oh
[20:43] <rodnice> how do I get there?
[20:44] <kristal> Soo... what metapackage should I select for a non-bloated kde install in Ubuntu that's pretty much Kubuntu.
[20:50] <tagezi> HELP LIST
[20:51] <tagezi> HELP LIST
[20:52] <rodnice> Ubuntu Customization Kit... any ideas?
[22:04] <r_rios> Hey. I updated to 13.10 beta 2 and now enabling opengl makes kwin freeze. Known problem? Intel graphics here.
[22:07] <BluesKaj> r_rios: best to ask in #ubuntu+1 , it's the 13.10 support chat
[22:07] <r_rios> BluesKaj: Thanks
[22:08] <BluesKaj> r_rios: np