[00:47] <qingluo> hi all, is there any way to let lubuntu not send remind window when device mounted?
[01:06] <ianorlin> qingluo open pcmanfm go to prefrences and uncheck the box on volume management that says show options for removeable media when they are insersted
[01:09] <qingluo> ianorlin: thank you , ill go futher to find out which configure file .
[01:09] <ianorlin> its in the pcmanfm prefences in the menu at the top
[01:10] <qingluo> ianorlin: yep, but i need to find which config file, cause i need my script to fix it auto
[01:10] <ianorlin> ah ok
[01:18] <ianorlin> not sure but it might be
[01:18] <ianorlin>  
[01:18] <ianorlin>  
[01:18] <ianorlin> ah crud
[01:19] <ianorlin> ~/.config/pcmanfm/lubuntu
[01:43] <qingluo> ianorlin: thank, i found it too
[01:45] <ianorlin> ok
[02:15] <Hundred> i'm have problems sending mail, please help
[02:17] <ianorlin> using what program?
[02:17] <Hundred> sylpheed
[02:52] <Hundred> anyone here use Lubuntu's email client?
[02:55] <vn151502510> Hundred: I dont, but I wonder you already connect any email account
[03:39] <Rexter> Lubuntu unexpectedly switches desktops when using the touchpad. I don't want to disable the secondary desktop, but I want to disable the touchpad switching.
[03:39] <ianorlin> are you hitting the mousewheel?
[03:40] <Rexter> yes, it's the scroll function on the right side of the touch pad.
[03:41] <kristal_> could just set openbox to not change desktop on scroll wheel
[03:41] <ianorlin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Mouse#Disable_how_using_the_scrollwheel_on_the_switches_to_the_next_Desktop
[03:44] <Rexter> kristal, thank you. I was looking at that, however, this information is out dated. This file has been changed for 12.04
[03:44] <Rexter> There is even a warning in the config file "Do not edit this file, it will be overwritten on install.
[03:44] <Rexter>         Copy the file to $HOME/.config/openbox/ instead."
[03:45] <Rexter> Do not edit this file, it will be overwritten on install.
[03:45] <Rexter> Copy the file to $HOME/.config/openbox/ instead.
[03:50] <Rexter> that is what I'm looking do do though. I just can't figure out how to do it on 12.04
[03:55] <Rexter> well I'm nodding off, I'll have to come back to it tomorrow.
[04:00] <Ahmuck> Someone break lubuntu?  via update?
[04:01] <vrkalak> i'm on lubuntu-lxde 13-04 now
[04:02] <vrkalak> update well works
[04:02] <Ahmuck> last update borked my laptop
[04:02] <Ahmuck> lost wireless mouse (usb), lost wireless networking, lost monitor size adjustments (auto), etc.
[04:03] <Ahmuck> essentially lost hardware support
[04:03] <vrkalak> don't to release-updates did you
[04:03] <Ahmuck> nope
[04:03] <Ahmuck> sudo aptitude update
[04:04] <Ahmuck> sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[04:04] <vrkalak> i using thinkpad x1 ..  14"
[04:05] <vrkalak> i only apt-get in the terminal updates ... never aptitude
[04:05]  * ianorlin does only use apt-get as well
[05:14] <qingluo> hi all, i'm using lxde with lubuntu. i wanna get a quiet way to mount devices in scripts.  i found that set mount_on_startup=0 && mount_removable=0 && autorun=0 then normal user can get quiet. but if i start my script in autostart from /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/ with @lxterminal -e myscript.sh, it can't find normal user's configure file , even if root
[05:18] <qingluo> how can i set configure for those scripts start from autostart? export?
[07:29] <Benkinooby> hi, what's exactly the point of lubuntu (no trolling). as i understood i can "switch" between any *buntu with the desktop-package
[07:29] <Benkinooby> so, what's the difference between downloading and installing lubuntu and downloading ubuntu and go for lxde-desktop
[07:34] <Benkinooby> !lts
[10:09] <Benkinooby> !live
[11:11] <hanner> hi
[13:28] <Rexter> Can someone help me understand the relationship between Lubuntu, and Ubuntu. Ubuntu 12.04 is an LTS, but Lubuntu 12.04 is not. Doesn't is use the same repositories? Is only the LXDE part not supported for the LTS period?
[13:34] <Myrtti> Rexter: yes, the latter part
[13:37] <Rexter> Reading the Wiki, "Lubuntu 10.10 was released on schedule on 10 October 2010, the same day as Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat, but it was not built with same underlying infrastructure as Ubuntu 10.10. Developer Julien Lavergne said about it, "Lubuntu is actually not part of the Ubuntu family, "
[13:38] <Rexter> is it still the case the case that lubuntu is not built on the same infrastructure?
[16:06] <Hundred> on a multi-monitor setup, how do you make the panel just appear on one primary monitor?
[16:08] <genoobie> hey all
[16:08] <genoobie> just installed lubuntu and it's not playing nicely with my video card
[16:08] <genoobie> would a different distro yield different results?
[16:09] <Hundred> what video card?
[16:09] <genoobie> nvidia geforce 6800
[16:09] <genoobie> problem only manifests on certain websites
[16:09] <genoobie> slows down, then crashes
[16:09] <genoobie> no problem with XP OS
[16:10] <genoobie> Hundred, I'm open to suggestions
[16:10] <genoobie> the PC is a P4 3.4GHz with 3mb ram
[16:10] <genoobie> I mean GB ram
[16:10] <Hundred> probably has for help on #Ubuntu don't tell them you are using lubuntu because some of te people are anal about it, even though lubuntu is an officially supported Ubuntu distro
[16:10] <Hundred> ask*
[16:10] <genoobie> Hundred, so any *buntu would likely have the same problem?
[16:11] <Hundred> it is probably just a driver issue
[16:11] <genoobie> hrm, I'm not against trying another *buntu, but I don't want the "same" results.
[16:11] <Hundred> it doesn't matter what distro you use, you just need the right driver for your video card
[16:12] <phillw> genoobie: let me get you the forum link for graphics cards... brb
[16:12] <genoobie> so you are suggesting that any other *buntu would yield the same results
[16:12] <genoobie> just want to be sure
[16:12] <genoobie> kid friendly OS?  *buntu, would linux mint be any "kid friendlier"?
[16:12] <genoobie> 10 year olds
[16:13] <phillw> genoobie: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334 read the sticky and if it is not covered feel free to ask (you can use the lubuntu tag there without fear of them being "anal" :) )
[16:14] <genoobie> hehe, okay
[16:14] <genoobie> I am going to reinstall the OS
[16:14] <genoobie> see if I can remember about how to do the wireless without a network link
[16:15] <Hundred> genoobie you can also try Linux Mint, it is very user friendly, especially if you are coming from Windows
[16:15] <Hundred> i think those coming from Mac prefer Ubuntu
[16:15] <genoobie> Hundred, cinnamon?
[16:15] <phillw> ahh, broadcom WiFi... always fun :P
[16:16] <Hundred> http://linuxmint.com/
[16:16] <genoobie> yeah but which DE?
[16:16] <Hundred> there support channel is on another irc network tho, irc.spotchat.org #linuxmint-help i think
[16:17] <Hundred> their main DEs are Cinnamon and Mate
[16:17] <genoobie> right, any tips?
[16:17] <genoobie> something that's got a decent pkg manager (for kids to install / uninstall)
[16:17] <Hundred> i think you should first ask the #Ubuntu channel to help with your graphics issue, you probably just need drivers
[16:18] <genoobie> Hundred, I kind of went down that road.
[16:18] <genoobie> tried a few solutions, didn't help really
[16:18] <genoobie> problem persists and it's tricky because it takes more than a few minutes to reproduce the problem / crash
[16:19] <Hundred> just trying Linux Mint Mate, you can try Linux Mint XFCE version which is more lightweight
[16:19] <Hundred> but i think for your computer Lubuntu is good
[16:19] <genoobie> yeah, I'll try re-installing lubuntu
[16:19] <genoobie> I like the interface
[16:19] <genoobie> it's kid friendly enough
[16:20] <genoobie> I've already got it downloaded
[16:20] <genoobie> etc. etc
[16:20] <genoobie> thanks again, bbl
[16:20] <Hundred> Linux Mint Mate is kid friendly, Lubuntu is lightweight which is good for a Pentium 4 computer
[16:20] <genoobie> i mean there's XP that's not bad
[16:20] <genoobie> but too easily infected by kids who are learning
[16:20] <genoobie> and maintaining that is a bit of a bear
[16:20] <genoobie> although I am going to try clonezilla
[16:20] <Hundred> are they really young?
[16:21] <genoobie> 10 yo
[16:21] <Hundred> their not that young, i was going to tell you about another distro that helps kids learn math and how to write lol
[16:21] <genoobie> hehe
[16:22] <genoobie> yeah, they're into flash games and minecraft
[16:22] <genoobie> the flashgames are the worst
[16:22] <genoobie> they get the computer infected with all kinds of crap from those sites
[16:22] <genoobie> was hoping the "gaming" library will be big enough
[16:22] <phillw> clubpenguin is good for youngsters
[16:23] <genoobie> I'll take a loog
[16:23] <Hundred> if you still have problems with Lubuntu, try out Linux Mint Mate or XFCE, they have a good software center too
[16:23] <genoobie> yeah, but that's what I was asking
[16:24] <genoobie> if lubuntu is having an issue with the driver won't linux mint mate or XFCE?
[16:24] <phillw> http://www.miniclip.com/games/club-penguin/en/ (I'm a parent penguin) .. Great fun for us, as well :)
[16:24] <Hundred> install Extreme Tux Racer, its a cool game
[16:24] <Hundred> and Super Tux Kart
[16:24] <genoobie> right, will look into those
[16:24] <Hundred> Teeworlds is cool too
[16:24] <genoobie> but my thinking is that if lubuntu has an issue with the driver then so will linux mint mate or xfce
[16:25] <Hundred> and i like the old classic arcade style Chromium BSU
[16:25] <genoobie> is that a fair conclusion?
[16:26] <Hundred> probably, you are likely just have a drive issue, you can try the open source drivers or the ones provided by Nvidia
[16:26] <genoobie> okay
[16:26] <genoobie> will look into it
[16:26] <genoobie> bbiafm
[16:53] <genoobie> ugh
[16:53] <genoobie> okay, so I "reinstalled" lubuntu
[16:54] <genoobie> a quick text message came up on boot re:firmware go to wireless kernel.org or something
[16:54] <genoobie> any way to see that message?
[16:54] <genoobie> is it in dmesg?
[16:56] <genoobie> yep
[16:56] <genoobie> it's in dmesg
[17:28] <Hundred> genoobie do you have the Adobe Flash browser plugin installed or are you using the open source Gnash and lightspark flash plugins
[17:31] <genoobie> I am going to install lubuntu 12.04
[17:32] <genoobie> The windows weren't coming up right for 13.04
[17:33] <genoobie> the machine is older, the drivers are likely to play more nicely with each other
[17:33] <genoobie> I can't imagine that it's any "faster" in 13.04
[17:33] <genoobie> but as I speak, the lubuntu splash screen is in the upper left hand corner of my monitor and it appears to be "stuck"
[17:34] <genoobie> grrr
[17:37] <genoobie> okay
[17:37] <genoobie> so the lubuntu splash screen comes up
[17:37] <genoobie> the blue / white dots alternate for about 3 cycles
[17:37] <genoobie> then stuck
[17:38] <genoobie> Hundred: linux mint maybe?
[17:40] <Hundred> yeah you can try Linux Mint Mate, it is much more user friendly and has more features than Lubuntu, although lubuntu is more lightweight
[17:41] <genoobie> will I see a significant performance diff on this P4?
[17:42] <genoobie> I mean I am willing to give lubuntu a go with diagnostics, etc
[17:42] <genoobie> but running into so many problems so early doesn't bode well
[17:42] <Hundred> does it have hyperthreading?
[17:42] <genoobie> I believe so
[17:43] <Hundred> i think it should be fine
[17:44] <genoobie> okay, bbiafm
[17:54] <genoobie> okay, hopefully linux mint mate will install
[18:23] <genoobie> hrm
[18:23] <genoobie> okay
[18:23] <genoobie> I installed linux mint MATE and it is super sluggish
[18:27] <genoobie> I would like to install lubuntu
[18:27] <genoobie> but 13.04 has problems with my machine and 12.04 doesn't get past the splash screen
[18:27] <genoobie> any suggestions?
[18:28] <genoobie> like when I try to bring up system info
[18:28] <genoobie> I get a blank dialog box
[18:28] <genoobie> three of them that once I close, seems to work okay
[18:28] <genoobie> but then there was a problem with updating
[18:28] <genoobie> ugh
[18:28] <genoobie> would xubuntu run any better?
[18:29] <Hundred> lubuntu is more lightweight
[18:30] <Hundred> you can probably try LXLE its a new distro based on lubuntu basically
[18:31] <Hundred> http://lxle.net/
[18:31] <Hundred> it is still ubuntu based so you can look for ubuntu help
[18:33] <Hundred> it has MiniTube, which is good for watching YouTube videos without using flash
[18:33] <genoobie> interesting
[18:33] <genoobie> Hundred: can they be streamed or do you have to download first
[18:34] <genoobie> Hundred: I have linux mint MATE installed
[18:34] <Hundred> well Google is converting their videos to html 5 since adobe is ending support for flash
[18:34] <Hundred> so all the videos are paying under html 5
[18:34] <genoobie> interesting too
[18:34] <genoobie> so what does that mean re: linuxOX
[18:35] <genoobie> linuxOS
[18:35] <Hundred> it means you can watch Youtube videos with flash or html 5
[18:35] <genoobie> adobe is ending support for flash in linux or flash in general
[18:35] <genoobie> brnb
[18:36] <Hundred> this is basically the app http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube
[18:36] <Hundred> it is free for linux, but you have to pay when using it for windows and max heh
[18:36] <genoobie> okay cool
[18:36] <Hundred> it doesn't pay all youtube videos, but most
[18:37] <Hundred> i think adobe only supports flash for windows now, and wants everyone to use the new adobe air or something
[18:38] <genoobie> ugh\
[18:39] <genoobie> anyhow, as a new user there seems to be more support for lubuntu *buntu than linux mint
[18:39] <genoobie> problem is, those problems that I've stated
[18:40] <Hundred> well Linux Mint is basically Ubuntu with a different interface
[18:40] <genoobie> oh
[18:40] <genoobie> so linux mint with MATE seems decents
[18:41] <genoobie> now I have to get my wireless card working
[18:42] <genoobie> Hundred: why does mint install but lubuntu 12.04 not?
[18:42] <genoobie> it's confusing...
[18:42] <genoobie> same *buntu
[18:42] <Hundred> the difference between Ubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Linux Mint Mate/XFCE/KDE/Cinnamon is just the Desktop Environment and the apps they decide to install with it, they are all based on Ubuntu
[18:42] <genoobie> so why does one install but not the other?
[18:42] <Hundred> i don't know
[18:43] <genoobie> Hundred: do you find it strange?
[18:43] <genoobie> or is that typical in linux
[18:43] <Hundred> i think Lubuntu 13.10 is coming out in a couple of weeks, maybe that will work heh
[18:43] <genoobie> isn't bleeding edge even less stable?
[18:44] <Hundred> probably heh
[18:44] <genoobie> okay, so here are my options
[18:44] <Hundred> but Lubuntu doesn't have a stable long term support version yet, so their releases are only support for 9 months lol
[18:44] <genoobie> 1) try and debug 13.04 lubuntu, 2) try and debug lubuntu 12.04; 3) linux mate seems to work, install the wireless card in MATE and see
[18:45] <genoobie> 4) xubuntu
[18:45] <genoobie> lxle
[18:45] <Hundred> LXLE is actually based on ubuntu 12.04 so it is long term support
[18:47] <Hundred> i don't think you should install Lubuntu 1.04 the support ends when 13.10 is released next month
[18:47] <Hundred> 12.04*
[18:47] <phillw> genoobie: if you fins driver support missing in lubuntu but in ubuntu (or other flavours), please do raise it as a bug. those drivers are part of the core system that we all share and should work in lubuntu.
[18:47] <phillw> s/fins/find
[18:48] <Hundred> 13.04 is supported until this December
[18:49] <genoobie> phillw: okay
[18:49] <genoobie> will do
[18:49] <genoobie> I am going to try lxle
[18:49] <phillw> genoobie: as you're installing a clean system, give the 13.10 a try. It is stable now with no horror stories around the corner (if you discount the 'it keeps crashing' bug :P )
[18:50] <genoobie> phillw: I would but 13.04 was a bit buggy
[18:50] <genoobie> won't 13.10 also be a bit buggy?
[18:50] <genoobie> is lubuntu coming out with a LTS?
[18:50] <Hundred> maybe for the 14.04 release
[18:51] <phillw> genoobie: we have one outstanding gremlin, which has already been fixed. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Beta2/Lubuntu
[18:51] <phillw> Hundred: not maybe. 14.04 will be our 1st LTS
[18:52] <Hundred> if you want long term support try Xubuntu, LXLE, Linux Mint 13 which is long term support
[18:52] <Hundred> actually Linux Mint 13 has LXDE which is what Lubuntu uses, bug it may be buggy since they won't be using LXDE anymore
[19:00] <ianorlin> lxle doesn't fit on a cd though
[19:25] <genoobie> that's fine I'm using a USB stick
[19:39] <chorgox> i had a problem with screensavers.. i find them pointless and i really hate when you deactuivate them but still "putting my screen blac" any idea how i can sort that ?
[19:39] <chorgox> screensaver is after like 10' or so putting a blank screen
[19:41] <Hundred> chorgox maybe try looking for the screensaver app in the menu
[19:41] <chorgox> yes is deactivated
[19:42] <chorgox> or "disabled" as is showing in the screen saver app
[19:42] <chorgox> also no power management of any k=ind
[19:42] <Hundred> maybe just put Black After 99999999 mintues :P
[19:42] <Hundred> Blank*
[19:42] <chorgox> tried already
[19:42] <chorgox> max is 720 minutes
[19:43] <Hundred> are you using Xscreensaver?
[19:43] <chorgox> yep 5.15
[19:43] <Hundred> just remove it i guess, and reinstall it when you want it back
[19:44] <ianorlin> do you have xfce power monitor which comes with it
[19:44] <Hundred> i don't think there are dependencies but you should ask an expert here
[19:44] <chorgox> i know when i wanted back NEVER , so i will llok how to completly remove them thanks
[19:45] <ianorlin> although xfce power monitor has a setting that does that
[19:45] <Hundred> yeah, maybe the setting is found in the xfce power manager
[19:46] <chorgox> ok i just made a clean install of lubuntu 13.04  i will check
[19:46] <ianorlin> it is under monitor tab
[19:46] <chorgox> i found the thinghy nice ...
[19:48] <ianorlin> also xscreensaver is removed in 13.10
[19:48] <chorgox> sweet
[19:48] <mephisto> hello!
[19:49] <chorgox> there is only one thingh i hate more than screen savers, login screens
[19:49] <mephisto> I'm trying to install lubuntu on a 128Mb computer but wanted to test it first in vmware and qemu
[19:50] <mephisto> but it won't work until I push the ram to 256Mb
[19:50] <chorgox> not sure would work 128 is too small
[19:50] <chorgox> maybe puppylinux
[19:50] <mephisto> chorgox, thanks man! I'll look it up :)
[19:51] <ianorlin> espically for vm
[19:52] <Hundred> i like Slitaz
[19:52] <Hundred> but its basically a USB OS
[19:56] <Peon_> Heh.. I've had this OS on here for over a year.. I haven't had any inclination to wipe the machine and use anything else. I like it, and I suggest it to all kinds of people who have old laptops and whatnot.
[20:09] <phillw> Peon_: great that you like it. we have #lubuntu-offtopic for chats and all sorts of social-media areas where you can chat to fellow lubunteers https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs
[20:10] <Peon_> Good times.
[20:22] <genoobie> hey all
[20:23] <kristal> Oh my god abiword is HUGE, 52MB of stuff
[20:29] <kristal> It seems small but there's soo many deps.
[20:39] <genoobie> hey, so why is lxle getting further in the install than lubuntu?
[20:40] <genoobie> I don't understand why one install works and another doesn't
[20:40] <bioterror> we have nothing to do with LXLE
[20:41] <kristal> What the hell, pcmanfm crashed...
[20:42] <genoobie> bioterror: I know, but lubuntu 12.04 doesn't install
[20:42] <kristal> just went to the trash folder
[20:42] <genoobie> bioterror: but 13.04 does
[20:43] <genoobie> 12.04 freezes on splash screen
[20:43] <genoobie> 13.04 comes up with blank dialog boxes and has a video driver issue
[20:43] <genoobie> so I opted to try lxle
[20:46] <genoobie> ug oh
[20:46] <genoobie> looks like lxle is crashing too
[20:47] <Peon_> Oh hey, I got the same splash screen.
[20:47] <bioterror> genoobie, do you have a branded computer or have you put it all together yourself from parts?
[20:47] <genoobie> Peon_: branded
[20:47] <genoobie> I mean bioterror branded
[20:47] <genoobie> dell dimension 8400
[20:47] <bioterror> and you've googled that certain model from forums for example?
[20:48] <Peon_> Out of curiosity, what would happen if I actually decided to upgrade to "Raring Ringtail" with lubuntu?
[20:48] <genoobie> bioterror no
[20:48] <kristal> Peon_:  Updating Lubuntu doesn't break very often because it's pretty simple.
[20:48] <Peon_> hmmm
[20:49] <Peon_> I broke fedora by updating it. THat was a sad day.
[20:49] <kristal> Peon_:  Fedora likes to do that.
[20:49] <kristal> Debian is the safest thing to upgrade...
[20:49] <Peon_> I'll go ahead and not upgrade this machine right now. It presently does exactly what I need it to.
[20:50] <genoobie> okay lxle seems right for me
[21:07] <genoobie> hey Hundred are you still here?
[21:18] <kristal> So trash is broken in 13.10
[21:18] <kristal> Thunar and pcmanfm crash when i open trash
[21:21] <phillw> kristal: can you tell me what steps you took? it opens fine for me
[21:21] <kristal> phillw: There's 3 items in trash, the instant i go to it in pcmanfm or thunar they hand up
[21:22] <kristal> phillw: I get no error messages.
[21:23] <phillw> Hm, I have 298 items in my 'Rubbish Bin' as reported by pcmanfm and can view and open them
[21:23] <kristal> phillw: I had to use trashcli to empty trash
[21:24] <kristal> I've always wondered... if trashcli is the official standard... why is not a standard package other programs use...
[21:24] <genoobie> phillw, any explanation why lxle installs but not lubunut 12.04?
[21:24] <kristal> genoobie: kernel or driver problem?
[21:25] <kristal> Even with ampty trash thunar and pcmanfm crash when i go it it...
[21:25] <genoobie> kristal, freezes on splash screen (lubuntu 12.04) but lxle which is based off of lubuntu / ubuntu
[21:25] <genoobie> does okay.
[21:25] <kristal> I'm fugging and restarting.
[21:26] <phillw> kristal: it is  a long time since I've used gdb to hunt a bug, but if you're getting a crash with no reported error, I suggest using it. http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:PCManFM_build_and_setup_guide#Bug_Reporting_and_How_to_Help_Debug_PCManFM
[21:26] <kristal> phillw: thunar is dieing too, it's gotts be something under the fm
[21:26] <genoobie> phillw, if I am installing lubuntu 12.04 and it freezes on the splash screen is that a lost cause?
[21:26] <genoobie> or is it just something I have to work through
[21:27] <phillw> genoobie: 12.04 lubuntu is long since not been updated. The guy who looks after lxle has spent a lot of time getting things updated. Try using the alternate installer instead of the desktop one. alternate is not as scary as people make it out to be.
[21:28] <genoobie> I've done the alternate installs
[21:28] <phillw> genoobie: IMHO, try 13.10 alternate (you'll avoid the freeze at end of install bug).
[21:29] <genoobie> brb
[21:29] <phillw> kristal: well, gdb should give the devs a hint as to what the issue is.
[21:30] <kristal> phillw: Ya I'll try it in a bit
[21:30] <phillw> kristal: is there nothing in the logs area?
[21:32]  * ianorlin thinks the main advantage of desktop iso is you can run it live
[22:03] <genoobie> hey all
[22:03] <genoobie> Hundred, you still here?
[22:03] <genoobie> I just installed lxle
[22:12] <Hundred> cool, how is it
[22:35] <genoobie> seems good
[22:36] <genoobie> Hundred, minitube froze up
[22:36] <genoobie> doesn't really matter
[22:46] <Hundred> i'm using version 1.9 from the PPA of the MiniTube developers
[23:00] <genoobie> ppa?
[23:03] <Hundred> yeah, basically updated versions of the software that Ubuntu hasn't approved yet
[23:04] <genoobie> oh,
[23:04] <genoobie> hey Hundred now that I've installed lxle and xp, I'd like to "backup" the machines so that I can just do a one click re-intsall
[23:05] <Hundred> yeah there are some back-up apps available, but i'm not familiar with them, probably ask someone on Ubuntu if they know of a backup app, thengo on like YouTube or something for a tutorial
[23:31] <phillw> genoobie: have  a look at http://clonezilla.org/