[13:32] <snap-l> good morning
[13:32] <snap-l> reminder: meeting tonight
[13:54] <derekv> morn
[18:24] <jrwren> i am going to jinx the lions now. thank me later rick_h_.
[18:24] <jrwren> Man, I haven't seen a Lions Bears game like this... ever.
[19:07] <snap-l> reminder: meeting tonight
[19:07] <snap-l> jrwren: You do realize rick_h_ is rooting for the Bears
[19:07] <snap-l> so the only way you could jinx the game would be for both teams to lose
[19:25] <jrwren> i know.
[19:25] <jrwren> that cursed rick_h_ :)
[19:26] <snap-l> Reminder: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-michigan/520/detail/
[19:26] <snap-l> ;)
[19:28] <jrwren> man, 13.10 is creeping up.
[19:28] <jrwren> i usually have tried a beta by now.
[20:27] <brousch> 12.04 is all you need
[20:29] <gamerchick02> i've not done the beta thing in awhile. though i will say that the xorg-edgers PPA is keeping my video card ticking after the most recent kernel update.
[20:30] <jrwren> 12.04 is pretty impressive.
[20:30] <jrwren> could go for newer uwsgi packages in main
[20:30] <jrwren> and newer postgresql too :)
[20:33] <snap-l> There's a postgresql maintained repo of packages for ubuntu
[20:33] <brousch> jrwren: You don't pip install uwsgi?
[21:06] <jrwren> nope.
[21:06] <jrwren> using uwsgi 1.0.x in production!!! zomg!
[21:06] <jrwren> i don't pip install anything if I can help it.
[21:07] <jrwren> i'm starting from cloud-img and so if I were to pip install uwsgi, that means I'd have to apt install build-essentials.
[21:07] <jrwren> not having build tools on my server means it comes up faster.
[21:10] <brousch> servers boot in like 5s now
[21:10] <jrwren> i don't boot servers.
[21:10] <jrwren> i deploy images.
[21:11] <jrwren> i never "shutdown". I only terminate or delete.
[21:11] <jrwren> a boot is always a first boot from a cloud-img
[21:11] <brousch> You're so heartless. give the little servers a second chance!
[21:11] <jrwren> its just a redefinition of what it means to be a server.
[21:12] <jrwren> chaos monkey might come along and stab it in the brains at any time.
[23:45]  * rick_h_ is sad today after that embarassing football game :/
[23:56] <brousch7> Which team?
[23:56] <rick_h_> bears got stomped on by the lions. Cutler was a pita today