| bjsnider | pepee, know how to make a debdiff? | 02:55 |
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| bjsnider | if not there's a wiki page for it | 02:55 |
| pepee | bjsnider, reading | 02:55 |
| bjsnider | coolio | 02:56 |
| pepee | bjsnider, what's this for? testing that bug? | 02:58 |
| bjsnider | real good way to get them to accept a patch | 02:59 |
| bjsnider | i've done it before | 02:59 |
| pepee | ah k | 03:00 |
| bjsnider | if you attach the debdiff you're doing almost all the work for them | 03:01 |
| bjsnider | does the patch apply? | 03:01 |
| pepee | isn't easier to just give them the patch? | 03:01 |
| bjsnider | no | 03:01 |
| bjsnider | well, it's easier on you | 03:01 |
| bjsnider | but you're trying to get the patch accepted | 03:01 |
| pepee | but this is for binary files, right? | 03:03 |
| pepee | wow, that was quick, the fix got released... | 03:04 |
| bjsnider | what? | 03:04 |
| pepee | I reported this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/1232557 | 03:05 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1232557 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu Saucy) "X.Org Server terminates when I close video player or run glxgears" [High,Triaged] | 03:05 |
| pepee | 6 hrs ago... | 03:05 |
| bjsnider | well, the importance was critical right? | 03:07 |
| pepee | well, not really, but I wanted to report it for people to have a working distro... | 03:09 |
| pepee | out of the box | 03:09 |
| bjsnider | xorg went down when closing any video player? | 03:12 |
| pepee | when using opengl apps I think | 03:12 |
| pepee | not sure though, I don't really understand it | 03:12 |
| bjsnider | pepee, i misunderstood something you wrote earlier about using a custom build with ppas. thought you were an expert | 03:45 |
| bjsnider | more or less | 03:45 |
| pepee | ah, heh | 03:45 |
| pepee | nah, I barely know how to follow instructions | 03:45 |
| pepee | and a bit of programming... but I hate coding | 03:46 |
| bjsnider | how did you get to the point where you were running a custom build? | 03:51 |
| pepee | looked at the buildlogs, executed the commands shown there | 03:57 |
| bjsnider | pardon me? | 03:58 |
| pepee | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/1232557/comments/15 | 03:58 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1232557 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu Saucy) "X.Org Server terminates when I close video player or run glxgears" [High,Triaged] | 03:58 |
| pepee | ah, "custom build" = old, patched version of the package | 03:59 |
| bjsnider | oh, i misunderstood again | 04:00 |
| bjsnider | i thought by that you grabbed a newer git snapshot and so forth | 04:00 |
| pepee | nah, I've had bad experiences with that :( | 04:00 |
| bjsnider | doing that successfully would be a much bigger meal than patching something | 04:01 |
| pepee | someone told me about checkinstall | 04:01 |
| pepee | worked fine for one package, but I couldn't build some other ones | 04:01 |
| pepee | unknown dependencies is the hardest thing I've hit... | 04:02 |
| pepee | but I have a bunch of programs from repos running just fine, just not packaged | 04:02 |
| pepee | I don't understand the packaging system... I just know how to use it | 04:02 |
| bjsnider | yeah well you can use apt-get build-dep to install dependencies | 04:05 |
| pepee | yeah, but sometimes... there are no packages for that :( | 04:05 |
| bjsnider | you can use dpkg-buildpackage to build a deb based on the code you get from git | 04:06 |
| bjsnider | you've got to have build-essential installed and whatnot | 04:06 |
| pepee | for example, a couple days ago I wanted to test the mesa implementation of opencl | 04:06 |
| pepee | you have to configure dpkg-buildpackage first, right? | 04:06 |
| pepee | make a debian/ folder and so on | 04:07 |
| bjsnider | just use the existing one you get by doing apt-get source | 04:08 |
| pepee | well, I needed some lib for opencl, libclc which is not in the repos | 04:08 |
| bjsnider | you don't have to create your own packaging scripts from scratch | 04:08 |
| pepee | hmm, is there anything I could read about this? | 04:08 |
| bjsnider | somewhere out there | 04:09 |
| bjsnider | apt-get source gets you the package's orig tarball, which is untouched code, and the packaging scripts | 04:09 |
| bjsnider | then ytou could grab newer code and try building that version | 04:10 |
| pepee | yeah, I mean, I dunno what to do when some deps are not in the repos | 04:10 |
| pepee | and I don't like to mess too much with the system | 04:11 |
| pepee | I've hed bad experiences in the past, lol | 04:11 |
| pepee | *had | 04:11 |
| bjsnider | you could look to see if the lib is in debian experimental yet | 04:11 |
| pepee | I've been using this same system since like 8.04 I think | 04:11 |
| pepee | or 10.04, not sure... | 04:12 |
| bjsnider | not sure i understand your point | 04:13 |
| pepee | I've upgraded lots of times, and sometimes, old changes lead to... bad things | 04:13 |
| pepee | :P | 04:13 |
| bjsnider | you're not going to break your system by installing a lib the rest of your system hasn't heard of | 04:14 |
| bjsnider | libs just sit there | 04:14 |
| pepee | ah k | 04:15 |
| bjsnider | if you uninstall upstart and update to the latest systemd, that could cause some issues | 04:15 |
| pepee | I could just use VMs or chroots, but it would be a waste of resources.. | 04:16 |
| pepee | btw, do you know about how mesa is updated in ubuntu? | 04:18 |
| pepee | I wish I could try the new directx implementation, and this opencl thing too.. | 04:19 |
| tjaalton | if xorg-edgers has a newer mesa then just try that | 05:00 |
| tjaalton | it's a lot harder pkg to manage than a simple driver | 05:01 |
| pepee | well, xorg-edgers mesa package is ~1 month old | 05:03 |
| pepee | mesa from oibaf's ppa is the most recent one I think | 05:04 |
| tjaalton | ok | 05:04 |
| tjaalton | he's trying to monetize the effort, and doesn't help us in any way | 05:05 |
| tjaalton | hmm was that right | 05:06 |
| tjaalton | and due to that his packages might conflict with official ones, like with glamor now | 05:13 |
| pepee | well, he doesn't have packages for saucy.. | 05:14 |
| tjaalton | ok | 05:17 |
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