[00:00] <Hathadar> I am wanting to install a c++ syntax highlighter for vim.  Both google and the plugin documentation states to place it in my ~/.vim folder.  No such folder exists on my new install of Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS.  How may I find where vim plugins should go?
[00:01] <bekks> Hathadar: Create the folder.
[00:01] <Hathadar> bekks: will do.  thx
[00:01] <macbuntuargh> Hathadar: what bekks said, also look into using https://github.com/tpope/vim-pathogen instead of manually installing packages
[00:01] <Hathadar> I guess I could do that too.
[00:01] <macbuntuargh> it will save you some headaches down the line
[00:03] <Hathadar> On another note, does apt-get have a search option for programs to install?  I just now did a apt-get install github but there is no such package.  Is there a way to find it via CLI instead of  asking google?
[00:03] <bekks> Hathadar: apt-cache search ...
[00:03] <Hathadar> thx
[00:04] <jrib> Hathadar: github is a website though
[00:04] <bwayne> wget github.com
[00:05] <macbuntuargh> bwayne: wget is not cloud scale
[00:05] <macbuntuargh> use curl instead
[00:05] <macbuntuargh> it does bigdata
[00:05] <ixio> !ot
[00:05] <bwayne> ;)
[00:05] <Hathadar> macbuntuargh, could you elaborate on wget not being cloud safe?
[00:06] <macbuntuargh> Hathadar: I was being silly, nevermind
[00:06] <iq> Hi
[00:07] <daftykins> hi
[00:07] <Xerofyte> Can anyone please tell me How Can I Install this "nVidia-Linux-x86_64-304.88.run" on my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64bit
[00:07] <linuxuz3r> !plymouth
[00:08] <jrib> !nvidia | Xerofyte
[00:08] <k1l_> Xerofyte: are you sure you dont want to use the nvidia driver that comes from ubuntu?
[00:08] <Hathadar> Would general linux newbie questions such as apt-get be appropriate here or only topics exclusive to ubuntu?
[00:09] <jrib> Hathadar: apt-get is related to ubuntu, so yeah
[00:09] <Xerofyte> jrib, ubottu  and k1l_  I just downloaded it from the nVidia Website
[00:09] <k1l_> Xerofyte: yes, but is there a reason you dont want to use the nvidia driver that ubuntu ships and made be supported by your ubuntu?
[00:09] <jrib> Xerofyte: it's suggested you use the version packaged in ubuntu's repositories; follow ubottu's link
[00:10] <minas> how can I test if compiz is running?
[00:11] <wylde> Xerofyte: if you choose to install manually you will likely have to repair your drivers after every kernel update.
[00:11] <Xerofyte> k1l_, The ubuntu ship version does not a high res. :( I want to use 1920x1280
[00:11] <Xerofyte> jrib,  I am going through the link now.
[00:11] <macbuntuargh> minas: "pgrep -lf compiz" is probably a good start
[00:11] <Xerofyte> wylde, I see
[00:12] <wylde> Xerofyte: you're sure the resoloution limitation is driver related and not hardware?
[00:12] <minas> macbuntuargh, says "2215 compiz". so it is running, right?
[00:12] <macbuntuargh> minas: yup
[00:12] <minas> thanks
[00:13] <Xerofyte> wylde: Yes. The same hardware on Windows gives me a very high res. But on ubuntu its limited.
[00:13] <wylde> Xerofyte: alrighty. Just checking.
[00:14] <Xerofyte> wylde: Alright. as you said after every update i have to repair the drivers. As far as I have the driver software saved I think It wont be problem. I will reinstall it. I guess
[00:15] <minas> the launcher is not visible. i have ubuntu 13.04. i tried the dconf reset ... command and it doesn't work. what can I do?
[00:18] <Xerofyte> wylde: are you with me?
[00:19] <LinuxGuy2020> On an Ubuntu server, I have a dual LAN and a wifi PCI adapter installed. The LAN ports work out of the box and I am in the process of reading and watching tutorials for command line network configuring. My one last question is if/when I unplug a LAN cable, will the wifi adapter get automatically kicked on and take over and vice versa?
[00:22] <wylde> Xerofyte: easy answer is: ctrl+alt+f2 to get to tty. Login and sudo service lightdm stop, then navigate to the directory you have the file sudo chmod +x filname then run it with sudo ./filename and follow the prompts. If you're lucky the installer will be able to remove the previously installed driver. If not then I'd have to consult google.
[00:23] <wylde> Xerofyte: I'm just about to head out. Sorry.
[00:23] <Xerofyte> wylde: Its okay Brother.. :) I will follow the procedure now :)
[00:24] <kurokin> What would cause my wifi to not let me connect the offical xbmc remote to the xbmc running, yet be able to with a wired connection ?
[00:27] <Sander^Lap> Do anyone know if llvm 3.4 is included in ubuntu 13.10?
[00:28] <Sander^Lap> in the beta
[00:28] <trism> Sander^Lap: yes, it is in the repos
[00:30] <steve__> sup
[00:32] <steve__> creepypasta
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | Sander^Lap
[00:38] <spacecase> hey, quick question.  Is swap space reclaimed at all or does it just fill up as time goes on?
[00:40] <Xerofyte> How to Get back from the tty
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[00:41] <daftykins> + <Ctrl>
[00:42] <daftykins> spacecase: it's managed just like system RAM
[00:42] <tsimpson> no need for ctrl from the tty, only from X
[00:42] <daftykins> oh, this i did not know
[00:42] <daftykins> ty sirs
[00:42] <spacecase> daftykins: so when it fills up it will dump un used pages to avoid oom?
[00:44] <daftykins> i'd expect so
[00:45] <Xerofyte> How to navigate to a directory through Terminal or in teletypewriter
[00:46] <Q78949> @Xerofyte is that a question?
[00:47] <Xerofyte> Q78949: Yes .. Sorry Did put a Question mark in the end
[00:47] <Xerofyte> didn't*
[00:47] <Q78949> use the "cd" command
[00:48] <hylian> hello all
[00:48] <Q78949> so if you want to change directory from "/etc" to "/home" type "cd /home"
[00:49] <Q78949> @xerofyte you can also issue the command "pwd" to see where you currently are
[00:49] <Xerofyte> :) Thanks Q78949
[00:49] <Q78949> np
[00:51] <aguirre_> hi
[00:51] <Q78949> hi
[00:51] <hylian> Q78949: have you ever messed around with fsv? it lets you see your file structure in a 3d environment... it's rather interesting. not very useful, but interesting
[00:52] <Q78949> @hylian no, never heard of it
[00:52] <yoshi435> hello
[00:52] <spacecase> My swap space is normally pretty full (currently at 3 days uptime and 87% used swap), however I don't see how adding more swap would help, wouldn't it just fill up too? meminfo: http://pastebin.com/Wq773PYA
[00:52] <Q78949> works with ubuntu?
[00:52] <yoshi435> My name is yoshi435. nice meet you
[00:52] <Xerofyte> Q78949: How to get Back to the Default Position. ?
[00:52] <hylian> Q78949: yep. used it myself once just to take a look... http://fsv.sourceforge.net/
[00:52] <yoshi435> I can't speak english. very little.
[00:52] <Q78949> xerofyte default should be "/home/username"
[00:53] <Xerofyte> Q78949: Got it :D
[00:53] <yoshi435> Hi Stanley00
[00:53] <hylian> yeah, mine is /home/denny
[00:53] <Stanley00> hi yoshi435
[00:53] <R0b0t1> Hi, my laptop's touchpad doesn't seem to have a hardware right click button. The whole surface is a sensor, though. How can I configure it to treat a left click in the right area of the sensor as a right click?
[00:53] <hylian> yoshi435: what labguage do you speak? espanol?
[00:53] <yoshi435> japanese
[00:53] <yoshi435> こんにちは
[00:53] <Q78949> hylian, looks cool, kinda like firefox 3d view
[00:54] <yoshi435> i live japan
[00:54] <spacecase> R0b0t1: you wouldn't happen to be running KDE would you?
[00:54] <hylian> Q78949: never heard of that, i'll have to look into it.
[00:54] <yoshi435> Google Translation use me
[00:54] <spacecase> also R0b0t1 check your mouse / trackpad settings, you may have 2 finger click options
[00:54] <hylian> is there a japanese ubuntu room on freenode?
[00:55] <yoshi435> Oh sorry.
[00:55] <hylian> yoshi435: no problem :)
[00:55] <Q78949> hylian just right click on a webpage and inspect element
[00:55] <yoshi435> thank's
[00:55] <hylian> yoshi435: can we help you yoshi435?
[00:55] <yoshi435> It terrifically information is less Japan's ...
[00:55] <Q78949> hylian, click the cube shape near the bottom right
[00:55] <yoshi435> yes.
[00:55] <R0b0t1> spacecase: Nah, gnome3, but I will look in trackpad settings
[00:56] <R0b0t1> I think I have before though
[00:56] <hylian> Q78949: i'll have to do that. not running firefox, i'm a chromium user, but i'll look into it
[00:56] <hylian> yoshi435: how can we help you?
[00:56] <R0b0t1> spacecase: Yeah, nothing in there as far as I can tell
[00:56] <yoshi435> It is not possible to bridge connection of a KVM
[00:56] <yoshi435> It can not be set to br0 wlan0
[00:57] <Xerofyte> in the GUI there a directory "XYZ" in my "Home" How do I navigate to that Specific "XYZ" directory in terminal?
[00:57] <yoshi435> /etc/network/interfaces detail
[00:57] <EvilBlob> type 'CD XYZ'
[00:57] <spacecase> R0b0t1: ah, damn.  sorry IDK then, I'd make sure you have the proper drivers installed (try installing synaptiks)
[00:57] <yoshi435> auto lo
[00:57] <yoshi435> iface lo inet loopback
[00:57] <yoshi435> auto wlan0
[00:57] <yoshi435> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[00:57] <FloodBot1> yoshi435: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:57] <yoshi435>         wireless-mode managed
[00:58] <yoshi435>         wireless-essid *******
[00:58] <spacecase> yoshi435: pastebin.org
[00:58] <yoshi435> What would you say?
[00:58] <hylian> yoshi435: yoshi435 use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ to send us a lot of data, ok? :)
[00:58] <yoshi435> OK
[00:59] <R0b0t1> spacecase: alright
[00:59] <yoshi435> Thank you everyone
[00:59] <fitnerd> My boot is getting stuck because of some nfs auto mounts not working. It loops forever trying to mount them. ( 12.04 ).  Recovery mode does the same thing and I can't get a shell.  Does anyone have a suggestion how to make grub give me a shell so I can edit the fstab and take these mounts out?
[00:59] <hylian> poor yoshi..
[00:59] <EvilBlob> Could you edit it in a LiveCD?
[01:00] <fitnerd> EvilBlob: this is booting inside a virtual machine, don't think I can do that
[01:01] <hylian> fitnerd: are you using kvm, or ??
[01:01] <fitnerd> vmware ESX
[01:02] <hylian> fitnerd: you can still mount a live iso/usb stick/cd in a virtual machine just like a regular machine. i've done it alot to fix my tinycore machine
[01:02] <spacecase> fitnerd: if recovery mode doesn't work (not sure why since it shouldn't try to mount anything other than /) a live CD would be your best option
[01:02] <chaosbringer> Question guys and girls, i have ubuntu 12.10, trying to instlall ruby-rvm and i keep getting this error: Package ruby-rvm is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[01:03] <kurokin> What would cause my wifi to not let me connect the offical xbmc remote to the xbmc running, yet be able to with a wired connection ?
[01:03] <chaosbringer> i have already tried apt-get install -f
[01:03] <chaosbringer> and no dice....any recommendations?
[01:03] <yoshi435> 返答が来なかったです
[01:03] <yoshi435> Response is I did not come
[01:04] <yoshi435> auto lo
[01:04] <yoshi435> iface lo inet loopback
[01:04] <yoshi435> auto wlan0
[01:04] <yoshi435> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[01:04] <yoshi435>         wireless-mode managed
[01:04] <FloodBot1> yoshi435: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:04] <yoshi435>         wireless-essid *****
[01:04] <hylian> yoshi435: did you try going to channel #ubuntu-jp? they speak japanese...
[01:05] <yoshi435> Oh Sorry.
[01:05] <yoshi435> Response is I did not come Ubuntu-jp
[01:05] <hylian> yoshi435: nor problem. :) try #ubuntu-jp and see if anyone can help you first, if not come back and I will try
[01:05] <chaosbringer> anyone?
[01:05] <yoshi435> can you speak japanese?
[01:06] <sam113101> chaosbringer: use the rvm website
[01:06] <hylian> yoshi435: no, sorry. I speak english only.
[01:06] <yoshi435> yes.
[01:06] <sam113101> we all love you yoshi-san ;3
[01:06] <hylian> chaosbringer: you could try apt-cache search ruby rvm  and see what it spits back at you, could be you mis named the package
[01:08] <alfonsojon> Hi
[01:08] <yoshi435> Hi
[01:08] <hylian> yoshi435: ヨッシーは、irc.freenode.org IRCチャンネル"＃のubuntu-JP"にアクセスしてください。あなたのIRCクライアントを使用する方法を知っていますか？
[01:08] <yoshi435> しましたが
[01:08] <alfonsojon> I'm on Xubuntu 13.10, and the volume indicator isn't indicating that I have any sound devices.
[01:08] <yoshi435> I try again
[01:09] <fitnerd> well it sounds like a good idea to boot CD.. I have set the CD to be mapped to a 12.04 server.iso but I can't find any way to make it boot off of it.  It always boots off the virtual hd.  Is there no way to tell grub to bypass this mount?  I have tried adding 'single' to the end of the 'kernel' line and that doesn't seem to work.
[01:10] <hylian> fitnerd: i will take a look, gotta dig some, brb
[01:10] <fitnerd> hylian: thx
[01:12] <vimes> damn 120 gb HDD
[01:12] <vimes> recovery says it takes 85 hours
[01:12] <vimes> oh great
[01:12] <vimes> I need ,,5 pictures
[01:12] <vimes> any one know a way to get photorec to only recover ..photoes_
[01:15] <awwyissssss> @fitnerd http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2011654
[01:16] <fitnerd> awwyissssss: Thank you!
[01:16] <compex> hello
[01:16] <compex> my sd card won't mount
[01:16] <compex> can someone help?
[01:17] <hylian> fitnerd: "All versions of VMware (Workstation, Server and ESX) offer the ability to mount ISO files and use them in virtual machines." http://www.petri.co.il/use-iso-image-files-vmware.htm This link should hopefully get you started
[01:17] <compex> It seems to be an ongoing issue. I have avoided it until now but I would like to get it fixed now
[01:17] <hylian> awwyissssss: thanks for helping fitnerd. ;)
[01:17] <fitnerd> hylian: Thanks.  I can use the ISO, the key was changing the boot order
[01:18] <hylian> fitnerd: awesome. now.. do you know how to change grub?
[01:19] <fitnerd> hylian: yes, but not sure I need to.  I can edit the fstab and take out those mounts now
[01:20] <hylian> fitnerd: that'e even better.
[01:21] <hylian> i see why yoshi came here, there's no one responding at #ubuntu-jp
[01:21] <compex> hello?
[01:21] <compex> does anyone else not have sd card mounting issues?
[01:22] <hylian> compex: not here. I am running Xubuntu 12.04 lts.
[01:22] <jboii> hi
[01:22] <hylian> jboii: hello
[01:23] <jboii> i managed to fix packages in ubuntu
[01:23] <compex> hylian - I have always had sd card issues..
[01:23] <jboii> issue is , the red sign is still on the panel
[01:23] <chaosbringer> hylian, the search came back with nothing
[01:23] <bwayne> compex: does anything at all happen when you plug in the sd card?
[01:24] <hylian> compex: i dont know what to tell you. I own a cheapy compaq presario cq57, and run very simple xubuntu. never had a problem using the cheapy built in reader for my 2 cards..
[01:24] <jboii> i cannot download sources like i could before i had issues
[01:24] <hylian> compex: i see it on thunar, so yes
[01:24] <jboii> how can i fix this , so the system is recognizing that there are correct packages installed?
[01:25] <hylian> jboii: what exactly is it saying? use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ if it's more than one line
[01:25] <compex> bwayne - no, nothing happens. The issue is known: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/995743
[01:25] <compex> As I understand, it is not limited to Dell XPS, though
[01:25] <hylian> compex: my card reader is probably so very generic that it's why i have no issues.
[01:26] <jboii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6169369/
[01:26] <jboii> can you help me fix this?
[01:26] <hylian> jboii: ok ill take a look, brb
[01:26] <compex> I doubt it'll help, but I'll install thunar
[01:28] <bwayne> compex: did you read the comments ?
[01:28] <hylian> jboii: follow these steps, and if you have any questions, come back here and we will work on it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/96967/how-do-i-fix-this-etype-is-not-known-on-line-in-source-list-update
[01:29] <hylian> jboii: wait, sudo is the issue...
[01:29] <compex> bwayne - yes. Unfortunately the rescan command they specify as a workaround does not work
[01:29] <hylian> jboii: i would try and fix it first if you can...
[01:30] <jboii> tell me what to do
[01:31] <hylian> jboii: folloe the instructions here for removing sudo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/96967/how-do-i-fix-this-etype-is-not-known-on-line-in-source-list-update and then use synaptic or ubuntu software center to re-install it
[01:31] <ers> f'
[01:31] <bwayne> compex: ah. maybe it'll get fixed in a kernel release sometime.
[01:32] <compex> bwayne - well that sucks. So I have to boot in windows everytime I want to use the SD card...
[01:32] <jboii> how do i locate the file i have issues with?
[01:33] <hylian> jboii: it should be /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:33] <compex> bwayne - #linux and #linuxmint have nothing for me either it seems
[01:33] <bwayne> compex: yeah. they won't if it's a kernel issue.
[01:33] <hylian> jboii: it's a text file
[01:33] <jboii> its empty
[01:33] <jboii> is that correct?
[01:34] <hylian> jboii: no, there should be info in there...
[01:34] <jboii> mines empty
[01:35] <bwayne> compex: you tried comment #23?
[01:35] <spacecase> I'm running Kubuntu, but may be interested in trying out gnome 3.10, however I need to be able to uninstall gnome and all the apps that come with it when I'm done
[01:35] <Retroballa> hey guys, I hope this is a question you guys can answer. If not, I understand. My issue is I use winconn which uses freerdp to launch windows apps like microsoft outlook. But when I load it, I see it for a second or two, then it minimizes. I read there is a way to stop this, but I havn't figured out a way. I am using cinnamon desktop.
[01:36] <Hathadar> The screen on my ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS desktop suddenly went black.  It didn't crash as I was able to use hotkeys to open a terminal and issue a reboot.  The screen was normal up until I logged in and then it went black again.  I was doing regular web surfing at the time.
[01:36] <hylian> jboii: that error shows there is atleast 57 lines of text in that file, so something is wrong... it listed the damage on lone 57. you most likely entered the wrong data , and your editor opened a blank file
[01:36] <compex> bwayne - we'll find out as soon as I reboot. wish me luck
[01:36] <Hathadar> Can someone help me recover my screen?
[01:37] <hylian> jboii: try gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in the terminal...
[01:38] <bwayne> Hathadar: has your screen frozen and you're on a TTY?
[01:38] <Hathadar> tty?
[01:38] <hylian> jboii: this is what my sources.list looks like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6169401/
[01:39] <Hathadar> Screen is not frozen, it has just gone black.
[01:39] <jboii> that worked
[01:40] <hylian> jboii: alrighty! that's great
[01:40] <compex> well that didn't work
[01:40] <bwayne> Hathadar: press <ctrl><alt>F1 to get to a TTY. login. sudo service lightdm restart
[01:40] <hylian> compex: sorry man...
[01:40] <compex> yep.. ah well.
[01:41] <bwayne> compex: well, it was worth a shot. some things are hit or miss with hardware.
[01:41] <compex> I think I'll get an SD card to USB adapter or something
[01:41] <bwayne> compex: that's what I'd do
[01:41] <jboii> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys CD30EE56
[01:41] <bwayne> compex: the easy way :)
[01:41] <jboii> should i delete this than?
[01:41] <hylian> compex: there has to be an answer. this piece of crap doesn't have that issue. your dell is by far better quality. i'd be curoius to see if a generic sd card reader in a usb slot would have some luck, it could be a hardware vs driver issue..
[01:42] <bruno00> if i install kde after installing ubuntu will i be able to access the programs i have already installed
[01:42] <hylian> jboii: that's line 57?
[01:42] <bruno00> i might not even doing that now i'm becoming fond of gnome
[01:42] <daftykins> bruno00: of course
[01:43] <compex> It's a hit and miss. I have had laptops where the card reader works perfectly, and I have had several, like this one, where it mounts if it feels like it
[01:43] <bruno00> daftykins: sweet. thank you
[01:44] <jboii> yes
[01:44] <jboii> and i deleted it
[01:44] <jboii> and saved
[01:44] <hylian> compex: right, i simply meant that if a simple generic worked, it would give you a heads up for diagnosing the issue. if you knew someone that had one, borrowing it could give you some useful insight. if it worked, you would know it's issue is specifically your hardware, and the lack of support/driver for that card reader. it would be useful diagnostically.
[01:44] <hylian> jboii: um... i hope you backed up your old sources.list
[01:45] <compex> hylian - Hang on, I might have one lying around :P
[01:45] <jboii> no
[01:45] <jboii> i deleted 57 only
[01:46] <hylian> jboii: might be a good idea, just in case.
[01:46] <jboii> how ?
[01:46] <hylian> jboii: i am just always very cautious.. history has taught me to be this way
[01:47] <jboii> now it works
[01:47] <jboii> thank you
[01:47] <hylian> jboii: never mind, this is redundant. ubuntu backs it up in case we goof it up. we are safe
[01:48] <hylian> jboii: i'm glad to hear it
[01:48] <daftykins> and with that, he left
[01:48] <daftykins> 0o
[01:49] <hylian> well issue was solved, that's cool
[01:49] <daftykins> yeah :)
[01:51] <hylian> daftykins: this is my video game. i love diggin and finding the answer.
[01:52] <Retroballa> I'm trying to find the setting to prevent a freeRDP from minimizing a program when I launch it. I have outlook loaded on my Windows 7 Virtualbox setup. I use winconn to access that program which loads it via freeRDP. It appears to load, then I see outlook come up then it minimizes with no way to bring it up. I heard there is a way in cinnamon to uncheck an option not to minimize but I can't
[01:52] <Retroballa> find out where.
[01:53] <hylian> Retroballa: wow, i don't even know where to begin... let me do some digging...
[01:54] <daftykins> hylian: yeah i help here too
[01:54] <hylian> Retroballa: so if you use alt-tab, it still doesn't cycle to it?
[01:55] <hylian> daftykins: glad to hear it, we can use all the help we can get. :)
[01:56] <chaosbringer> hylian : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9056008/installed-ruby-1-9-3-with-rvm-but-command-line-doesnt-show-ruby-v/9056395#9056395 <-- that's what was wrong
[01:56] <chaosbringer> Thanks!
[01:56] <hylian> chaosbringer: glad to hear it, you where more on the ball than I was.
[01:57] <hylian> sorry Retroballa i gotta go
[01:57] <deckard_> does anyone experience slow shutdowns?
[01:58] <Drakeson> HELLO.  HOW DO I TURN OFF CAPS LOCK IN UBUNTU 13.10? (SORRY FOR ALL CAPS).
[01:58] <Retroballa> no. I run phpvirtualbox so the virtualmachine runs in the background. It allows me to run a windows program in virtualbox without actually having virutalbox opened
[01:58] <Random832> Drakeson: does pressing the caps lock button not work?
[01:58] <J_Private> Usually caps lock button
[01:59] <Drakeson> no, it does not. (holding shift now, very awkward typing this way).
[02:00] <Drakeson> the setting seems gone
[02:00] <tgm4883> I'm not aware of any setting for caps lock
[02:00] <J_Private> Try a different keyboard
[02:01] <Drakeson> did the layout setting change in 13.10? it does not offer the regular xkb settings
[02:01] <Drakeson> (keyboard layout setting, i mean)
[02:01] <tgm4883> !ubuntu+1
[02:02] <Retroballa> I don't now if it's because i Run two screens that my freerdp program are minimizing or what
[02:03] <yoshi435> Hi
[02:05] <Drakeson> what is the command for choosing the xkb option? (there was one beside xmodmap, which i dont remember)
[02:06] <tgm4883> !ubuntu+1 | Drakeson
[02:06] <tgm4883> Drakeson, you need to go there for 13.10 support
[02:06] <yoshi435> You can not be made to bridge br0 to the wlan0
[02:06] <Retroballa> alt-tab does not bring up word in my freeRDP sesstion. Pretty much for for any program I try to launch.
[02:06] <Retroballa> here is my issue https://github.com/FreeRDP/Remmina/issues/155 but I can't find where to uncheck that option they mentioned
[02:07] <Drakeson> tgm4883: thanks, i heard the first time, and asked there, too :)  the xkb command is obviously universal (applies to ancient distros, too).
[02:09] <Titanium> when I isntall ubuntu with an ATI graphics card, is there some extra steps I need to do, it comes up with this error screen abotu my GPU not working and it has to run in low graphics mode or use cli
[02:13] <Drakeson> For the record, found it (setxkbmap -option ctrl:swapcaps, for instance)...
[02:15] <Drakeson> Titanium: Depends on the card.  Support for older card (say older than 6-12 months) are usually there "out of the box".
[02:15] <Drakeson> and for that you don't even need fglrx.  The open source mainstream drivers (radeon, radeonhd) usually include that.
[02:16] <Drakeson> You might need to install linux non free firmware, though.
[02:16] <Titanium> Drakeson http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814105007
[02:16] <Drakeson> Sorry, I am not sure what is the new and current chipset. You can get yours using "lspci | grep -i vga"
[02:17] <Titanium> does ubuntu not enable ssh by default?
[02:18] <Drakeson> that, and also by looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log (see if you see any obvious errors)
[02:18] <tsimpson> Titanium: outgoing yes, incoming no
[02:18] <Titanium> that is stupid
[02:19] <Drakeson> Titanium: yes, you can install openssh-server
[02:19] <tsimpson> no, the opposite would be stupid
[02:19] <Titanium> i thought ubuntu was supposed to be easy
[02:19] <Titanium> 'just works' kinda thing
[02:19] <tsimpson> Titanium: it also don't enable httpd by default, is this a problem?
[02:20] <demonspork> I am mounting a share with CIFS on my Ubuntu box, but only one user seems to get permissions to read/write it at a time. How do I get all users to have full read/write access to the share at the same time?
[02:20] <Drakeson> Titanium: "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" is easy.  Also not needing to worry about people ssh'ing into your laptop if you have a simple password is intentional (for a large number of users).
[02:21] <Drakeson> Titanium: for ati drivers, you might need the following package: "linux-firmware-nonfree"
[02:24] <jrib> tsimpson: well it's a matter of enabling ssh (by installing a package) if it's a service you want
[02:24] <tsimpson> jrib: I know, I wasn't the one complaining about it ;)
[02:24] <Drakeson> Titanium: actually, scrap the previous suggestion, linux-firmware-nonfree does not seem to have any radeon binaries anymore (at least not in 13.10).  Let me know if you want to know how to check and see the binary...
[02:26] <jrib> tsimpson: sadly, you've broken my rule of only having one active person per letter of the alphabet
[02:27] <Drakeson> jrib: And you have broken the general (or maybe canadian?) rule of saying sorry when you make a mistake!
[02:28] <jrib> Drakeson: it was a joke :)
[02:28] <Drakeson> Yup, me too :)
[02:34] <yoshi435> Hi
[02:35] <Drakeson> Hi
[02:35] <Drakeson> that was fast
[02:39] <yoshi435> hi
[02:43] <Wug> I have a question.
[02:43] <eppa> 'lo all, I have to boot a NAS from a DOM device that’s 128MB…that’s not going to be big enough for /boot is it?
[02:43] <Wug> Say I want to process a file, and extract from it a list of strings
[02:43] <Wug> grep seems to be less than ideal
[02:43] <Wug> first of all, grep -P doesn't support lookbehinds
[02:43] <Wug> or at least, mine doesn't.
[02:44] <mrrcp> whats a good firewall for ubuntu
[02:44] <Q78949> @Wug: what do you meaan?
[02:44] <Wug> Say I have a line in irc out of my logs.
[02:44] <jrib> Wug: what's your actual question (in one line)?
[02:44] <Q78949> @mrrcp: try UFW
[02:44] <Wug> like this one: [22:06:12] <mJXjCS> This is some text.
[02:44] <Wug> I need to extract just the nickname
[02:44] <Wug> no leading or trailing stuff
[02:44] <jrib> Wug: stop pressing enter and just ask your actual question
[02:45] <Q78949> Wug: not sure what you mean
[02:45] <mrrcp> !ufw
[02:45] <Wug> Q78949: "mJXjCS" is the nickname. I need just the nickname, none of the rest of the line
[02:45] <Q78949> mrrcp: yeah just man ufw
[02:46] <Wug> This regex looks like it should work: '[^>]*(?=>)(?<=<)'
[02:46] <Wug> Except that grep -P doesn't like the lookbehind. if I remove it, I get '[22:06:12] <mJXjCS' like I expect
[02:46] <Q78949> Wug: you are grepping a file to pull a specific name out?
[02:47] <Wug> no, I'm grepping for other things, and I need to get the name.
[02:47] <jrib> Wug: use grep and parse out the <> afterwards or use sed or use awk
[02:47] <Q78949> Wug: yeah, what jrib said, get the info the sparse it out
[02:48] <Wug> is there really no linux tool that supports regex groups?  if there was one I could just use that and it would require half the processes
[02:48] <jrib> Wug: sed...
[02:48] <varunendra> Wug, "sed 's:.*\(mJXjCS\).*:\1:' > output file.
[02:49] <chexxor_netbook> I used apt-get to install "zsh-doc" package. How do I learn how to use it?
[02:49] <Wug> varunendra: it might not be mJXjCS. I don't know what it is. I found the line with an indirect search
[02:49] <jrib> chexxor_netbook: dpkg -L zsh-doc will show you what got installed
[02:49] <chexxor_netbook> jrib: I'll take a look, brb.
[02:49] <Q78949> @chexxor_netbook: man zsh-doc
[02:49] <varunendra> Wug, probably #bash would be best place to ask for help on this.
[02:49] <jrib> Wug: what he said should still give you the idea.  You can use groups and references like in his example
[02:50] <jrib> Wug: something like 's/<\(.*\)>/\1/
[02:50] <chexxor_netbook> jrib: ah, looks like they went to /usr/share/doc
[02:50] <Wug> jrib: I think I can work with that. thanks
[02:50] <chexxor_netbook> man zsh-doc has no entry
[02:51] <mrrcp> what about virus protection etc?  is it needed on ubuntu?>
[02:51] <Q78949> chexxor_netbook: thats weird
[02:51] <chexxor_netbook> jrib: thanks! Are dpkg and apt utils different projects? Where are they related?
[02:51] <jrib> Wug: if you need something more complete/powerful then use perl, python, or any other language with a decent regex library :)
[02:51] <mrrcp> !virus
[02:51] <jrib> chexxor_netbook: apt uses dpkg to install packages, but apt takes care to handle dependencies
[02:52] <Q78949> mrrcp: I wouldn't worry abotu ti
[02:52] <Q78949> it*
[02:52] <chexxor_netbook> jrib: ah, I see.
[02:54] <chexxor_netbook> jrib: slick! I didn't know this /usr/share/doc/ convention existed. Most packages have an entry here?
[02:54] <Wug> jrib: I don't suppose you know why sed does not accept \d for a digit?
[02:54] <jrib> chexxor_netbook: yes, and you'll find some notes from the maintainer usually in PACKAGE/README.Debian
[02:55] <jrib> Wug: you might need to pass some option to it
[02:55] <Wug> yeah, im searching but not seeing anything
[02:56] <jrib> Wug: if you just want it to work, use [0-9].  I don't remember if it supports \d somehow
[02:56] <Wug> yeah I know, I was just hoping I could do it without adding a bunch of [0-9]s
[02:57] <jrib> Wug: not sure where you are checking but http://www.gnu.org/software/sed/manual/sed.html might be more helpful than the man page
[02:57] <chexxor_netbook> jrib thanks again. I'm going to play around with this a bit.
[02:57] <Wug> I was reading the man page
[02:59] <mrrcp> so does anyone know of a site that points out all the methods to secure your ubuntu setup?
[02:59] <mrrcp> for like a everyday laptop
[03:01] <Q78949> mrrcp: I would just turn on the firewall and block all inbound
[03:01] <Q78949> mrrcp: You can always do a network scan if you really want to test it.
[03:02] <mrrcp> so sshd isnt installed by default?
[03:02] <mrrcp> or sftp
[03:03] <Q78949> mrrcp: doesn't really matter
[03:03] <mrrcp> why not
[03:03] <Q78949> mrrcp: the firewall will block incoming connections for everything
[03:03] <mrrcp> true
[03:04] <mrrcp> but wouldnt be safer to disable unused services
[03:05] <mrrcp> ahh
[03:05] <mrrcp> nevermind it isnt installed
[03:05] <Q78949> mrrcp: sure I guess
[03:05] <Q78949> mrrcp: sudo ufw status verbose
[03:05] <Q78949> mrrcp run that for the full  info
[03:06] <mrrcp> ok thanks
[03:06] <Q78949> should tell you the status if incoming and outgoing connections
[03:06] <mrrcp> inbound deny - out allow
[03:06] <mrrcp> all good
[03:07] <Q78949> cool
[03:07] <jrib> Wug: by the way, if you want grep: echo foo '<bar>' cat | grep -Po '(?<=<).+(?=>)'
[03:07] <mrrcp> gotta love linux
[03:08] <Q78949> yep definitely do
[03:08] <Wug> jrib: I'd rather not grep twice
[03:08] <jrib> Wug: hmm, why would you have to grep twice?
[03:09] <Wug> I know I can make it work by birthing an unholy chain of greps and seds
[03:09] <Wug> I asked because I wanted to be better than that.
[03:17] <Criten> Does anyone here use the Solorized theme for terminal?
[03:33] <david__> I would like to learn php but someone told me that I should install LAMP over XAMPP
[03:33] <david__> would someone be able to help me with this?
[03:34] <zhee_sharp> david__ : just download it from LAMPP official site and extract it
[03:34] <zhee_sharp> run apache and mysql from extracted LAMPP archive
[03:34] <ubuntutis> i need help how can i install jdownloader from a sh file
[03:35] <zhee_sharp> ubuntutis : just try this command "sudo sh filename.sh"
[03:35] <zhee_sharp> ubuntutis: (without quotes)
[03:37] <daftykins> zhee_sharp: i don't like the advice you're giving, it's unsafe
[03:38] <daftykins> you shouldn't sudo all_the_things
[03:39] <zhee_sharp> daftykins: yeah, i'm sorry ... you're right ... :D
[03:40] <zhee_sharp> daftykins:  just a bit bad habbit of me, i should've corrected it .... :D
[03:41] <zhee_sharp> daftykins: Thanks, for your advice
[03:42]  * daftykins pats zhee_sharp 
[03:42] <King09x> Hello, I need a little help installing VirtualBox. I've been fighting with it for a couple hours now.
[03:44] <daftykins> King09x: can you describe what happens?
[03:44] <King09x> It keeps telling me that it can't find my kernel headers, but when I run "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" it tells me that the package doesnt exist.
[03:44] <Anonymous> hello
[03:44] <Anonymous> what's up people?
[03:48] <King09x> daftykins: I don't know if another repository would have the headers that I need?
[03:49] <daftykins> King09x: do you have the standard repos selected or an obscure local mirror?
[03:49] <King09x> Uhm, I believe it's just the standard repos
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> King09x, You install dkms?
[03:50] <King09x> wilee-nilee: Yeah, before installing virtualbox
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> King09x, You have stock kernels?
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> King09x, this might help. http://askubuntu.com/questions/75709/how-do-i-install-kernel-header-files
[03:54] <King09x> I've also tried installing from the repo and from the website.
[03:54] <King09x> my header version is: linux-headers-3.5.0-39-generic if that changes anything
[03:55] <PigDude> is there an ubuntu installer that fits on a single CD?
[03:55] <PigDude> i see lubuntu, that's it
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> King09x, this is which release?
[03:55] <PigDude> the minimal installer fits on a cd but doesn't configure my wireless and doesn't have `iwconfig` etc
[03:56] <wilee-nilee> no usb?
[03:56] <King09x> wilee-nilee, 12.10
[03:57] <King09x> wilee-nilee: I also have tried doing what that link says. But it cannot find the package for my headers in the repo.
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> King09x, I figured quantal, so you have the stocl kernels right?
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> stock*
[03:58] <King09x> wilee-nilee: yeah, I do.
[03:59] <ubuntutis> i need help i just installed jdownloader and now all the sudden it wont open
[03:59] <King09x> wilee-nilee: I installed just the linux-headers-generic but all that gave me was 3.8.0-31-generic
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> King09x, FRom waht you have shown I can't really tell, can you describe how you are installing and show the errors more specificities/details.
[04:01] <King09x> wilee-nilee: Well I tried just apt-get install virtualbox which gives me this error "Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 3.5.0-39-generic cannot be found.
[04:01] <King09x> Please install the linux-headers-3.5.0-39-generic package,
[04:01] <King09x> or use the --kernelsourcedir option to tell DKMS where it's located
[04:01] <King09x> "
[04:01] <Ahmuck> last update borked my laptop.
[04:01] <treehau55> same here
[04:01] <Ahmuck> no wireless, no mouse, no monitor auto, etc.
[04:01] <treehau55> i started to get a recursive error like this udevd[105]: timeout: killing '/sbin/modprobe
[04:01] <Ahmuck> no hardware support
[04:02] <treehau55> it really seems like now everytime a kernel update is released, I have to go through some long extraneous process of recovering my system, really getting tired of it
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> King09x, I always use the vbox website not sure if that would help, or why you get that error, there is a #vbox channel however. https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[04:03] <Ahmuck> it's the ubuntusoft way?
[04:03] <ubuntutis> anybody here know how i could make jdownloader run?
[04:04] <King09x> wilee-nilee, Sadly, Ive uninstalled that a few times too. I'll check out the #vbox channel though. Thanks for the help!
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> King09x, YOu have rebooted since the last kernel update right?
[04:05] <Guest6697> can anyone help me install a new irc client...hexchat?
[04:05] <Guest6697> please
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> Guest6697, Its in a ppa.
[04:06] <King09x> wilee-nilee: I have. I guess I could try uninstalling everything, rebooting, and starting from scratch.
[04:06] <Guest6697> I opened the ppa step #1 step 2 copy and paste something and then fail that is where I am...
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> Guest6697, the ppa's explain how to install in Read about installing
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> Guest6697, you add the ppa run a update then apt-get install hexchat
[04:10] <Guest6697> yeah the add part is where I messed up not sure what I did wrong
[04:11] <chilli-salad> what is a good simple skype alternative that can do simple direct connects to others with the same client?
[04:11] <qin_> Guest6697: history | tail -n 10
[04:11] <treehau55_> chilli-salad: google+ hangouts
[04:11] <qin_> chilli-salad: ekiga
[04:11] <Nosophorus> hello
[04:11] <SchrodingersScat> chilli-salad: you mean file transfers?
[04:12] <Nosophorus> i'm having a problem with thumbnails
[04:12] <david__> okay i have lamp install, now what do I do?
[04:12] <chilli-salad> treehau55_, I want to be independent of corporations. That's why I want direct connections from client-to-client. I just want audio and video chats.
[04:12] <qin_> chilli-salad: What do you mean by direct? How direct?
[04:13] <chilli-salad> qin_, type in a person's IP address then connect to them for video chats
[04:13] <SchrodingersScat> chilli-salad: then I believe there are resources online on how to set up your own jabber server
[04:13] <chilli-salad> this should be simple, and Ekiga claims to do it, but it's buggy so it's not working for me over VPN.
[04:13] <SchrodingersScat> chilli-salad: oh, that.
[04:13] <chilli-salad> Ekiga does it fine on LAN but once a VPN is on Ekiga chokes
[04:14] <chilli-salad> Ekiga keeps sending signals out to ALL interfaces, and the client on other end sees things like the LAN address of the other client.
[04:14] <chilli-salad> when client2 should only see the VPN address of client1
[04:15] <chilli-salad> so client1 can send video/audio/text to client2, but client2 tries to send traffic to client1's LAN address. It's funny to watch, but frustrating because independent VOIP isn't working.
[04:15] <\DSAFEW\> I'm looking for a macro program similar to AutoHotkey, there needs to be some kind of simple scripting logic though, not just recording and regurgitating keystrokes.
[04:16] <ubuntutis> s anybody know how i can delete the other jdownloader file that the sh file created?
[04:16] <SchrodingersScat> \DSAFEW\: like bash?
[04:16] <chilli-salad> SchrodingersScat, and I don't want to fuss around with any server or DNS stuff. I just want video/audio chat using direct connections, and to do it over VPN so it's secure. I'd like to try Jitsi next but it uses Java, which has been getting bad reports about security lately.
[04:16] <\DSAFEW\> hah, well I'm looking at avoiding doing a bash script with xte
[04:17] <SchrodingersScat> chilli-salad: so which other software does this?
[04:18] <chilli-salad> SchrodingersScat, as far as I know, only Ekiga does. I'm guessing Jitsi should be able to do it since it can do SIP. But I think there's hardly any program that is capable of actually doing this.
[04:18] <chilli-salad> but I'm still early in my skype alternative, direct connection research project
[04:19] <chilli-salad> tox is up and coming, but it's in beta and who know how long it will be until tox is usable.
[04:19] <SchrodingersScat> chilli-salad: tox is usable
[04:19] <chilli-salad> plus, not everyone wants to use P2P and let the whole world know every IP address that's using tox. I'd rather keep my comms secure on a LAN or VPN sometimes.
[04:20] <david__> i get an error Permission denied when trying to make a php file in var www
[04:20] <david__> what can I do to fix this, im new to linux
[04:20] <\DSAFEW\> add your user to the correct group?
[04:20] <crass> I'm using raring, does anyone know how dnsmasq is getting its nameservers?
[04:21] <\DSAFEW\> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-add-user-to-group-www-data/
[04:21] <david__> dont know much about that, can you explain?
[04:21] <\DSAFEW\> that's probably it david__
[04:21] <SchrodingersScat> I'm a terrible person, and I just change the permissions
[04:21] <chilli-salad> SchrodingersScat, how usable is tox now? Have you tried it?
[04:22] <\DSAFEW\> $sudo usermod -a -G www-data david__
[04:22]  * JohnVonNeumann is away: I'm busy
[04:23] <david__> what does that mean/
[04:23] <david__> ?
[04:23] <\DSAFEW\> david__, if you are wondering what sudo does, or what usermod does, you can google it or enter "man usermod" for instance for the manual
[04:24] <qin_> \DSAFEW\: I do not think his system username is david__
[04:24] <MangaKaDenza> gah
[04:24] <\DSAFEW\> well, I figured he would know that
[04:24] <MangaKaDenza> I'm trying to theme my ubuntu to look like win7
[04:24] <MangaKaDenza> dont ask
[04:24] <MangaKaDenza> and I keep getting this error
[04:24] <SchrodingersScat> !enter MangaKaDenza
[04:24] <MangaKaDenza> E: Unable to locate package win2-7
[04:25] <SchrodingersScat> !return | MangaKaDenza
[04:25] <MangaKaDenza> ubottu, shhh
[04:25] <\DSAFEW\> MangaKaDenza, did you add the repo and update it?
[04:26] <MangaKaDenza> yep
[04:27] <MangaKaDenza> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2028896/how-to-make-ubuntu-linux-look-like-windows-7.html
[04:27] <MangaKaDenza> I followed everything there
[04:27] <MangaKaDenza>  for the first half
[04:27] <MangaKaDenza> I copied word for word
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> MangaKaDenza, 3rd party stuff like this is not supported here, just a heads up. really you are not going to get a true windows look anyway.
[04:28] <\DSAFEW\> so, is the installation giving the error, or is the gsettings set command giving it?
[04:29] <MangaKaDenza> I'm not going for true win7
[04:29] <\DSAFEW\> yeah it's going to look like fake windows...
[04:29] <MangaKaDenza> just something similar enough
[04:29] <MangaKaDenza> \DSAFEW\, the install
[04:29] <MangaKaDenza> and the last time I did it w/o installing the win7-2 theme
[04:29] <MangaKaDenza> I ended up fucking my ubuntu up
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> !language | MangaKaDenza
[04:30] <MangaKaDenza> I ended up having to reinstall...
[04:30] <qin_> MangaKaDenza: what: lsb_release -r #says?
[04:31] <MangaKaDenza> I know this is 13.04
[04:31] <MangaKaDenza> but it worked the first time
[04:31] <MangaKaDenza> I had to reinstall once cuz I messed up some drivers
[04:31] <MangaKaDenza> then reinstall due to the thing not working
[04:31] <crass> is there a more advanced channel for the desktop?
[04:31] <\DSAFEW\> MangaKaDenza, does downloading these give you an error? https://launchpad.net/~upubuntu-com/+archive/gtk3/+sourcepub/2619207/+listing-archive-extra
[04:32] <qin_> MangaKaDenza: So you noticed that linky was tested on 12.10, and you scrolled down to UNDOING THAT MESS part?
[04:33] <MangaKaDenza> I would have wanted to undo the stuff, but I had messed up a lot of other stuff
[04:34] <MangaKaDenza> er, \DSAFEW\ I'm kinda noobish w/ ubuntu/linux, so do I do the ppa thing with the link, or what?
[04:34] <qin_> MangaKaDenza: You are like stabbing victim complaining about a headache on ER...
[04:35] <MangaKaDenza> qin_, not helpful
[04:35] <\DSAFEW\> I was just wondering why the install doesn't work with the correct command, and wanted to point at the manual downloads in case you wanted to manually place them in the correct place
[04:36] <\DSAFEW\> but yeah, if it worked before, I couldn't tell you why it doesn't now
[04:38] <{-r-}> hi everybody
[04:38] <daftykins> hi
[04:38] <{-r-}> how are you
[04:38] <ubuntutis> s anybody know how i can delete the other jdownloader file that the sh file created?
[04:39] <daftykins> good ty, yourself? do you have a question?
[04:39] <qin_> ubuntutis: Do you know where the files are?
[04:39] <MangaKaDenza> YAY
[04:39] <MangaKaDenza> IT WORKS!
[04:40] <{-r-}> I'm doing good and no I just got Ubuntu working yesterday
[04:40] <daftykins> {-r-}: ah ok. this channel is more for support questions, but you're welcome to chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[04:41] <ubuntutis> yeah i used gksudo and moved it to the trash any help
[04:41] <{-r-}> and I have used it in virtual machines before but now it is running on my computer
[04:42] <metaphysician> sorry, got disconnected, say again.
[04:42] <Wug> You can use 'date -d "3 days ago"' to get that date, and 'date -d @123456789' to get the date for a specific timestamp.  How can I combine the two
[04:43] <Wug> I know I could just add 86400 * 3 seconds to my timestamp, but the whole reason the date utility exists is to deal with stupid crap like leap seconds
[04:43] <{-r-}> well i do have one question though I was trying to install torproject and it kept coming up with an error
[04:43] <vinceableworld> Greetings.
[04:45] <noagor> go to torproject.org and download the browser bundle for gnu/Linux. unzip and run
[04:46] <{-r-}> okay thank you
[04:46] <qin_> ubuntutis: in terminal: cd ~/.local/share/Trash/ && ls -l #paste output in paste.ubuntu.com
[04:48] <qin_> Wug: date `date`?
[04:49] <Wug> qin_: what I'm aiming for is something that behaves the way you'd expect 'date -d "@1234567890 plus 2 weeks"' to
[04:49] <ubuntutis> qin all it says is files info
[04:50] <qin_> ubuntutis: all files you want to remove?
[04:50] <ubuntutis> no just files and info
[04:52] <qin_> Wug: date -d "`date`+10 days"
[04:53] <qin_> ubuntutis: Are in the location file you want to remove, or better are in Trash any files you want to keep?
[04:53] <KaLev-> v
[04:54] <Wug> ok. weird that I can't pass a UTC seconds value to that
[04:54] <qin_> Wug: I bet #bash knows
[04:54] <Wug> I guess there's always date -d "$(date -d @1234567890) +1 day"
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> i installed 13.04 64bit on a Targa laptop with a geforce go and nouveau driver, system works flawlessly, just when i open dash to search applications desktop freezes sometimes
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> 2 other drivers show up in additional drivers: opendrivers free and non-free
[05:05] <ubuntutis> qin nevermind that can you help me find the jdownloader folder
[05:07] <qin_> ubuntutis: What are you planning to do? locate jdownloader #is one way
[05:07] <ubuntutis> changing the panel icon i found a more suitable icon
[05:10] <tjj> Is it correct that ubuntu has no-reinstall upgrades, no matter what version I'm upgrading from or to?
[05:12] <tozen> tjj: imho tbh better is to install new one then upgrade from to...
[05:13] <subhendu> hi i have a problem with wifi usb and usb camera
[05:14] <subhendu> can anyone pls help me
[05:15] <roland> hi I just deleted postgress then installed postgress 9.2.4 but i cant seem to run it
[05:15] <roland> I think I may have messed up deleting it
[05:15] <tozen> subhendu: what the matter?
[05:16] <AndChat465716> roland: okay
[05:16] <tozen> roland: u need to give more info,please
[05:17] <roland> how do i check if it is installed
[05:18] <tozen> roland: which program_nabe
[05:18] <tozen> roland: which program_name
[05:18] <roland> tozen: when I type  The program 'psql' I get this  can be found in the following packages:  * postgresql-client-common  * postgres-xc-client
[05:18] <AndChat465716> tozen: hey
[05:19] <tozen> AndChat465716: hi
[05:20] <roland> tozen: which postgresql returns nothing
[05:20] <tozen> roland:  how you've tried to install it?
[05:21] <tozen> roland: if nothing means isn't installed, pal
[05:21] <roland> tozen:  tar -zxf postgresql-9.2.4.tar.gz    ./configure      make world     make check    sudo make install-world
[05:22] <roland> tozen: It's seemed to be installing
[05:23] <tozen> roland: we have it in ppa ;)
[05:23] <tozen> roland: sudo apt-get install postgresql postgresql-contrib
[05:24] <roland> tozen: when ever i do that i git postgresql 9.1
[05:24] <roland> tozen: my Heroku app is in 9.2 so i need it to match
[05:25] <tozen> roland: ok understud
[05:26] <roland> tozen: i think I may have done something bad while trying to delete 9.1
[05:26] <tozen> roland: let's start from begginning so u've installed new one from tar does any errors appeared in process?
[05:27] <tozen> roland: how u've delete it?
[05:27] <subhendu> I have a problem. My wifi USB card stops working as soon as I start VLC
[05:28] <roland> tozen: apt-get purge postgresql*
[05:29] <tozen> roland:  then try this :sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pitti/postgresql
[05:29] <tozen> sudo apt-get update
[05:29] <tozen> sudo apt-get install postgresql-9.2
[05:30] <crass> has anyone used unbound?
[05:31] <Whitehathacker> Any 1 Cite about Ubuntu 13.10 coming out and Most likely faster Kernels?
[05:31] <roland> tozen: Package postgresql-9.2 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[05:31] <tozen> roland: meyhap u'll libpq-dev installed on the system aswell so:     sudo apt-get install libpq-dev
[05:31] <roland> tozen:E: Package 'postgresql-9.2' has no installation candidate
[05:31] <subhendu> I have a problem. My wifi USB card stops working as soon as I start VLC
[05:32] <gersonjlima> hi!
[05:32] <tozen> roland: hmm...
[05:32] <tozen> roland:  which server do u use?
[05:32] <roland> apache2
[05:33] <tozen> roland: i mean update server
[05:33] <Whitehathacker> Main Server is the best
[05:33] <roland> tozen: sorry I don't understand
[05:33] <tozen> Whitehathacker: aree
[05:33] <Whitehathacker> aree?
[05:33] <roland> tozen: should i update apache2
[05:34] <Whitehathacker> lol
[05:34] <tozen> Whitehathacker: agree LOL
[05:34] <Whitehathacker> awww
[05:35] <tozen> roland: pastebin cat /etc/apt/sources.list please
[05:36] <tozen> roland: well smtms u can get installation errors in case of local server usage
[05:36] <subhendu> I have a problem. My wifi USB card stops working as soon as I start VLC
[05:36] <subhendu> please help
[05:36] <roland> tozen: http://pastebin.com/pzFnqqqw
[05:37] <Whitehathacker> whats VLC Minion
[05:37] <subhendu> video lan player
[05:38] <Whitehathacker> oh... ill check it out
[05:38] <Whitehathacker> brb
[05:39] <tozen> roland:  any errors tipind sudo apt-get update or sudo apt-get -f install ?
[05:39] <subhendu> I have a problem. My wifi USB card stops working as soon as I start VLC
[05:39] <Whitehathacker> make sure u get all ur Updates to plz they surely help alot with error problems or such
[05:39] <subhendu> pls help
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> subhendu, Rather strange problem, they are not related accept in your claim.
[05:40] <roland> tozen: no they run fine
[05:40] <Whitehathacker> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade..... which will upgrade it all
[05:40] <subhendu> I cannot run cheese also
[05:41] <subhendu> cheese is giving an error
[05:41] <subhendu> (cheese:6633): Gdk-WARNING **: The program 'cheese' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'GLXBadContext'.   (Details: serial 153 error_code 169 request_code 153 minor_code 6)   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.    To debug your program, run it with the GDK_SYNCHRONIZE environ
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> i imagine thats going to be hard to troubleshoot.
[05:44] <tozen> roland: well i would suggest to install 9.1 then sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:45] <zhee_sharp> Hi all, I have a problem to make automatic script for connecting my modem using modprobe. I can type manually using shell to make my modem recognized by linux. but when I make bash script, that command not run well. finally my modem not recognized using that script. What i have to do ... ? Thanks ...
[05:45] <Whitehathacker> yup i agree with the DR.
[05:46] <roland> tozen: okay just with sudo apt-get install postgresql ?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> i installed 13.04 64bit on a Targa laptop with a geforce go and nouveau driver, system works flawlessly, just when i open dash to search applications desktop freezes sometimes
[05:46] <Whitehathacker> Internet Modem?
[05:46] <zhee_sharp> yes cdma modem
[05:46] <tozen> roland: yes
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> zhee_sharp:  make sure your script is using bash and not sh perhaps? make sure its runnign with sudo rights?
[05:48] <Whitehathacker> yup with some computers i get the same problem Lotuspsychje. if u ask me i thank its better to go with 12.04 LTS its more subported
[05:48] <zhee_sharp> Dr_Willis: thank you, i'll try now ....
[05:48] <roland> tozen: 9.1 is now installed. what is the command to upgrade to 9.2?
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> Whitehathacker: 2 other drivers show in additional drivers: open drivers free and non-free, maybe they run better ?
[05:49] <tozen> roland: sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:49] <Whitehathacker> Resent 1 is the best
[05:49] <roland> tozen: done
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> Whitehathacker: you mean nouveau?
[05:50] <Whitehathacker> BUT Make sure u dont get those 1's that have WARNINGS on them they cause problems to some computers
[05:50] <tozen> roland: so/
[05:50] <tozen> roland: so?
[05:50] <Whitehathacker> like Black screen at start up and no picture
[05:50] <roland> tozen: i still get nothing with "which postgresql"
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> Whitehathacker: no i just have dash problem, freezing desktop sometimes
[05:51] <roland> psql
[05:51] <Whitehathacker> and havin it reset the desktop and goin blank and reseting goin back to its orginal b4 the freeze?
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> Whitehathacker: after desktop freeze i have to shutdown and reboot, after that it all works normally and fast
[05:52] <tozen> roland: its not a problem try to use
[05:52] <roland> tozen: when i type "psql" i get  "psql: FATAL:  role "roland" does not exist"
[05:52] <Whitehathacker> aww i c
[05:52] <Whitehathacker> whats ur computer Spec's?
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> Whitehathacker: targa laptop, geforce go, nouveau driver 1gig ram 120 hd
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> Whitehathacker: works flawlessly on firefox and other programs
[05:54] <Whitehathacker> not bad just dont run 100 things at once and u should be fine.
[05:54] <Whitehathacker> lol that was my problem
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> Whitehathacker: ive post many icons in sidebar, so this users wont have to open dash alot :p
[05:55] <Whitehathacker> aww good idea
[05:55] <roland> tozen: Ive never used a database before. "psql" is the command the Heroku tutorial tells me to run. And it should return: "psql (9.2.4) Type "help" for help. maciek# \q" aparantly
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> Whitehathacker: tnx for thinking along..
[05:56] <Whitehathacker> But when it Freeses like that just wait it out it out it will fix it self
[05:56] <roland> tozen: well 9.1 in our case
[05:56] <tozen> roland: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15301826/psql-fatal-role-postgres-does-not-exist
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Whitehathacker: hmm not sure this freeze will go away, pretty persistent
[05:57] <roland> tozen: thanks
[05:57] <tozen> roland: https://www.google.co.uk/#q=psql%3A+FATAL%3A++role+does+not+exist ;)
[05:57] <Whitehathacker> i Have Zorin 6.4 which is Based on Ubuntu 12.04.3 and it never has that problem
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> Whitehathacker: well maybe 13.10 upgrade will fix this problem on this system, i just love fastness of 13.04
[05:58] <roland> tozen: so I can't just delete everything and start again with 9.2?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[05:59] <Whitehathacker> oh ya it is fast maybe 13.10 is gonna be even faster XD
[05:59] <tozen> roland: better for now is to start your expirience with psql from documentation reading, mate ;)
[06:01] <tozen> LinuxGuy91: fastness is depence of hardware ;)
[06:02] <tozen> sorry
[06:02] <Whitehathacker> Is Ubuntu 13.10 gonna continue with Kernel's 3.8 or go with a new version?
[06:02] <roland> tozen: I've been on this problem for 2 days. I'm almost ready to reinstall ubuntu. anyway thanks will try to figure it out
[06:03] <tozen> Whitehathacker: like to sort out new kernel bugs?
[06:03] <tozen> roland: u r welcom but i didn't helped u generally
[06:04] <joshlegs> Whitehathacker: im usign 13.10 right now and i'm on kernel 3.11
[06:06] <roland> tozen: are you sure i can't just delete everything. I can't follow that stack overflow thing.
[06:07] <roland> tozen: i can't even login to postgress
[06:09] <roland> tozen:  sudo -u user psql user sudo: "unknown user: user sudo: unable to initialise policy plugin"
[06:10] <tozen> roland:  well what i would do sudo apt-get purge postgresql; sudo apt-get autoclean then you need to remove sources using make uninstall in directory you've installed
[06:11] <tozen> roland: then try to install again from ppa
[06:12] <tozen> roland: have no other ideas, pal
[06:12] <tozen> roland: sorry
[06:13] <roland> tozen: remove sources using make uninstall in directory you've installed <- how do i do that
[06:13] <roland> tozen: it's in eic/postgresql
[06:14] <tozen> roland: in a begginning of discution you said you've tar archive installed in youre system do you?
[06:15] <roland> tozen: sorry, i don't know what that means. tar archive. i don't remember saying that
[06:17] <tozen> roland: that what you said: 06:21 < roland> tozen:  tar -zxf postgresql-9.2.4.tar.gz    ./configure      make world     make check    sudo make  install-world
[06:17] <GrubDoesntInstl> Hi, I am in the process of installation and the installer is telling me it can't install grub to sda or sdb either. What should I do?
[06:17] <tozen> roland:  06:21 < roland> tozen:  tar -zxf postgresql-9.2.4.tar.gz    ./configure      make world     make check    sudo make  install-world
[06:17] <tozen> 06:21 < roland> tozen:  tar -zxf postgresql-9.2.4.tar.gz    ./configure      make world     make check    sudo make  install-world
[06:17] <tozen> 06:21 < roland> tozen:  tar -zxf postgresql-9.2.4.tar.gz    ./configure      make world     make check    sudo make  install-world
[06:17] <FloodBot1> tozen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:17] <vinceableworld> I just noticed a very interesting anomaly with my wireless connection: When my wi-fi would trail off - looking like it still connected (but never loading a browser page) I then tried to do something with IRC and IRC "found a way thru the pipe" so to speak - then my spotify came back on (letting me know the wi-fi was fully back up).
[06:18] <tozen> roland: 06:21 < roland> tozen:  tar -zxf postgresql-9.2.4.tar.gz    ./configure      make world     make check    sudo make
[06:18] <roland> tozen: yeah I did those commands on the tar.gz file.
[06:18] <tozen> roland: today at 6:21
[06:18] <vinceableworld> Hopefully this tells someone something :)
[06:19] <tozen> roland:  sorry for flood guys
[06:19] <GrubDoesntInstl> I also tried the previous measures mentioned here (I am not french either) except for using gparted.
[06:19] <tozen> roland:  and that means you get it installed
[06:19] <GrubDoesntInstl> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=11795451#p11795451
[06:19] <roland> tozen: yeah
[06:20] <tozen> roland: so we need to find it in system, ok?
[06:21] <roland> tozen: yeah, there are a bunch of postgres files i can see in /etc
[06:21] <tozen> roland: try to use <locate package_name> or <sudo find / -name packet_name* -print>
[06:22] <tozen> roland: it has to be in your home directory dont delete nothing from /etc for now!
[06:23] <roland> tozen: that returned a really long list i cant even highlight it all for pastebin
[06:24] <roland> tozen: http://pastebin.com/Tj2EG3mE
[06:26] <tozen> roland: use make uninstall in /home/roland/postgresql-9.2.4
[06:26] <tozen> roland:  do you understand how?
[06:27] <roland> tozen: I've installed a second instance of postgres in my home folder?
[06:27] <techgaun> well I can't login to my ubuntu. Keeps on taking me back to login screen after successful login. The ~/.xsession-errors sas BASH_VERSION : parameter not set
[06:28] <tozen> roland: thats what your system says ;)
[06:28] <techgaun> What could be possible solution to this?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis>  techgaun  common iussues causing that.  #1 ive seen  the .Xauthority file is owned by root. or messed up.  try renameing it 0 would be the first thing i would try
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> techgaun:  second most common issue - other config files in .config or the users home  messed up.
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> techgaun:  you can also test by making a new test user. and see if they work properlyu
[06:29] <techgaun> Already did something similar to that. But, didn't work. I remember configuring winff
[06:29] <roland> tozen: cool, i did the make uninstall
[06:29] <techgaun> last time and nothing that would mess the config
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> techgaun:  test if a new user works. IF they do. that points to it being a config issue in the problem users home
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> remove/renameing .Xauthority is a quick thing to try
[06:30] <techgaun> the permission with .Xauthority is also fine.
[06:30] <techgaun> well thanks gonna try with new user
[06:30] <roland> tozen: i still get psql: FATAL:  role "roland" does not exist
[06:30] <tozen> roland:  try to install from ppa
[06:30] <us^0gb> Are PPAs only available on the Launchpad platform, or are there other PPA platforms?
[06:30] <roland> tozen: which version?
[06:31] <techgaun> Last time, I had changed terminal option in winff from -e to -x.
[06:31] <techgaun> New user does not work either. Means my system-wide config is messed
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> techgaun:  yep. Does the guest user work?
[06:31] <tozen> roland: it's not a psql problem it's a roles problem i sent you link to read 10 minutes ago ;)
[06:32] <techgaun> that does not work either.
[06:32] <roland> tozen: but i need postgresql 9.2
[06:33] <roland> tozen: am i not now on 9.1?
[06:35] <techgaun> well thanks Dr_Willis. Found the cause. Yesterday I created a file in /etc/profile.d/ which had set -o nounset at the top. It was causing the issue with login. Finally relieved :)
[06:36] <tozen> roland: so just tried sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pitti/postgresql
[06:36] <tozen> sudo apt-get update
[06:36] <tozen> sudo apt-get install postgresql-9.2
[06:36] <tozen> its work fine in my system
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> techgaun:  :) Trouble shoooting flowchart works again. ;) I really need to write one up.
[06:37] <tozen> roland: http://pastebin.com/B0NHChqu
[06:38] <roland> tozen: Package postgresql-9.2 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package 'postgresql-9.2' has no installation candidate
[06:38] <BlitzHere> I think I'm what's called dependency hell
[06:38] <BlitzHere> I need to install this package
[06:38] <BlitzHere> http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/glib-networking-common
[06:39] <BlitzHere> same version
[06:39] <BlitzHere> But I can't
[06:39] <BlitzHere> I'm running raring
[06:39] <BlitzHere> "Reinstallation of glib-networking-common is not possible, it cannot be downloaded."
[06:39] <tozen> roland: try to use sudo apt-get build-dep <package_name>
[06:40] <techgaun> Yup its always fun to troubleshoot issues and input from good peoples in IRCs always help you to head in right direction :)
[06:40] <BlitzHere> "Version '2.36.1-0ubuntu1' for 'glib-networking-common:i386' was not found"
[06:40] <BlitzHere> Can anyone help? Thanks
[06:40] <roland> tozen: so: sudo apt-get build-dep postgresql-2.9.4 ?
[06:41] <roland> tozen: that doesn't work either. E: Unable to find a source package for postgresql-2.9
[06:44] <tozen> roland: sorry out of ideas
[06:44] <roland> tozen: this may help. the ubuntu software center broke at the same time as all this
[06:45] <roland> tozen: damn. Should i just reinstall ubuntu?
[06:47] <tozen> roland: not sure if u wont we can try to fix it but my opinion is you'll spend much more time then reinstall fresh one (this way will nog give you experience but i cannot spend days with you ;) )
[06:48] <okada> ola
[06:48] <okada> ola
[06:48] <xmetal> i have found that with other OS's (guess which company's :P ) ... spend 2 weeks troubleshooting -vs- one week (assuming i didn't have a drive image to restore) reinstalling the OS
[06:49] <roland> tozen: okay thanks for your help. I'll reinstall ubuntu
[06:49] <xmetal> (ok the time tables i just used may be off, but you get the idea :P )
[06:49] <tozen> roland: what <grep postgresql /var/lib/dpkg/status> sais?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> it definatly can take me several days to get a windows sytem totally reinstalled back to the state i need. ;)
[06:49] <okada> algum fala portugues
[06:50] <IdleOne> !pt | okada
[06:50] <roland> tozen: http://pastebin.com/MELGGxik
[06:51] <okada> eu tenho pouco tempo ke instalei o ubuntu
[06:51] <xmetal> thats why drive images are handy
[06:52] <xmetal> :)
[06:52] <okada> ainda nao manjo nada
[06:52] <tozen> roland: sudo apt-get install libpq-dev ??
[06:52] <IdleOne> okada: faça /join #ubuntu-br
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> i found it easiuer to just make a script that sets up my linux box how i want. :) enable ppa's instgall stuff. wget whatever i need.  tweak the configs..\
[06:52] <helmut_> hi
[06:53] <roland> tozen: still no installation candidate
[06:53] <xmetal> :) @ my dvd recorder still huming along
[06:55] <okada> ola
[06:56] <okada> ola
[06:56] <tozen> roland: this what i found on launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+archive/postgresql
[06:56] <okada> vc tcl de onde
[06:57] <tozen> roland: there is no rarring support o_O
[06:57] <aeon-ltd> okada: espanol?
[06:57] <tozen> roland: i'm on 12.04
[06:58] <okada> japao  mas portugues
[06:58] <tozen> roland: thats why i get and you dont
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> ah ok
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> !portuguese
[06:58] <Firefishe> Is there a way to enable -- user_xattr --while using a live dvd?
[06:58] <roland> tozen: oh so it won't work for my version of ubuntu?
[06:58] <tozen> roland: seems like (imho)
[06:59] <okada> digito aonde isto
[06:59] <dry[1]> hi. Gedit is needlessly printing a directory of files. How to get rid of this useless line? More details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2177416
[06:59] <okada> por favor digito a onde isto
[07:00] <okada> primeira ves ke uso linux
[07:01] <aeon-ltd> okada: o que e 'ves ke uso linux'?
[07:01] <roland> tozen: okay, ill try to fix my 9.1 and change heroku to run 9.1 ... thank you.
[07:01] <okada> 1 vez
[07:02] <aeon-ltd> okada: ok
[07:03] <tozen> roland: u r welcome
[07:03] <okada> vc tecla de onde
[07:03] <okada> eu do japao
[07:03] <Firefishe> Is there some way of using netflix-desktop on a live dvd?
[07:04] <tozen> !es
[07:04] <aeon-ltd> okada: tecla para?
[07:04] <aeon-ltd> tozen: already tried that with the portuguese chan
[07:05] <aeon-ltd> tozen: he/she is asking for a key to something
[07:05] <okada> voce de ke pais
[07:05] <c0p3rn1c> does anyone know a command to list files of your network drive with 1 command?
[07:05] <c0p3rn1c> (bash)
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> c0p3rn1c:  by network drive? you mean a samba share?
[07:06] <aeon-ltd> okada: inglaterra
[07:06] <ikonia> c0p3rn1c: "ls"
[07:06] <c0p3rn1c> Dr_Willis, yes
[07:06] <Firefishe> c0p3rn1c:  ls /directory/where/network/drive/mounted ???
[07:06] <okada> nossa longe
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> check the samba docs (samba-doc package) i recall there being a lot of cli commands that people rarely hear about
[07:07] <c0p3rn1c> not 1 command
[07:07] <ikonia> c0p3rn1c: ls is 1 command
[07:07] <c0p3rn1c> when you need to mount it first
[07:07] <okada> mas e portugues  ou brasileiro
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> !info samba-doc
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> im not sure if smbclient can do that or not
[07:07] <ikonia> c0p3rn1c: oh, you've not mounted it then
[07:07] <c0p3rn1c> ikonia, nope :)
[07:08] <Firefishe> c0p3rn1c:  Oh, I see.  Might possibly have to use fdisk or gparted to find it.  I'm not sure.
[07:08] <ikonia> smbclicent -c
[07:08] <Firefishe> c0p3rn1c:  Sorry.
[07:08] <c0p3rn1c> Dr_Willis, thx i'll be sure to check that out
[07:08] <okada> eu sou filho de japones nascido no brazil
[07:08] <ikonia> Firefishe: no you wouldn't use fdisk to list files, or gparted
[07:08] <okada> mas moro no japao
[07:08] <Firefishe> ikonia:  No, but you could find the partition, and go from there.
[07:08] <c0p3rn1c> Firefishe, thx anyways
[07:08] <Firefishe> np
[07:08] <ikonia> Firefishe: it's a network share
[07:08] <ikonia> Firefishe: not a local disk,
[07:09] <Firefishe> ikonia: ... oh... *doh* <eats poisoned pork rinds>
[07:09] <Firefishe> ;)
[07:09] <tozen> aeon-ltd: doesen't matter what she/he asks here is no answer on this lang, pal ;)
[07:09] <aeon-ltd> okada: voce precisar de ajuda com ubuntu?
[07:10] <okada> sim
[07:10] <aeon-ltd> okada: para que?
[07:10] <okada> se puder me ajudar  agradeco
[07:10] <akaWolf> hello
[07:11] <akaWolf> sudo alsa force-reload
[07:11] <akaWolf> Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: (none loaded).
[07:11] <akaWolf> Loading ALSA sound driver modules: (none to reload).
[07:11] <akaWolf> please, help me.. I'm not hear sound...
[07:11] <aeon-ltd> okada: ok o que voce precisa de ajuda com?
[07:11] <aeon-ltd> akaWolf: have you checked alsamixer?
[07:12] <okada> um aplicativo para criar calendarios e depois imprimir
[07:12] <akaWolf> aeon-ltd: yes. file with this name not exist...
[07:12] <akaWolf> aeon-ltd: error...
[07:13] <aeon-ltd> akaWolf: you can't launch alsamixer?
[07:13] <akaWolf> aeon-ltd: yup
[07:13] <okada> e um aplicativo para copiar dvd  que cossiga passar pela trava
[07:14] <akaWolf> aeon-ltd: "dmesg|grep -i snd" -- empty...
[07:15] <aeon-ltd> okada: para dvd - handbrak + libcss
[07:15] <okada> ok
[07:15] <aeon-ltd> okada: *handbrake
[07:16] <okada> isso acha  na central do ubuntu
[07:16] <aeon-ltd> akaWolf: have you got alsa-utils installed?
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> been using acidrip to rip dvd's lately
[07:16] <Ben64> akaWolf: pastebin "lspci | grep -i audio"
[07:16] <akaWolf> aeon-ltd: yes
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> but  i Definatly do have some DVD's with new-fangled protection that i cant find any linux apps that can rip them. (i cant egven play them on windows, or linux)
[07:17] <Ben64> Dr_Willis: Brave?
[07:17] <akaWolf> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/0htCpaCx
[07:17] <Calinou> it's definitely, not definatly :)
[07:17] <Calinou> same for compatible, proprietary...
[07:18] <aeon-ltd> akaWolf: well my plan was to get into alsamixer and see what soundcards you could select from, sorry but i don't have any more ideas than that other than reinstalling stuff
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> Ben64:  Brave? never heard of it.. wife got some DVDs last few months with new fangled protection.. and they are not 'new' by any mean. (old tv shows, like Love Boat Season 1) but they have the new protection that make them only play in her Blueray Player. Her DVD player cant play them
[07:18] <akaWolf> aeon-ltd: thanks for try to help :)
[07:19] <Ben64> Dr_Willis: just curious, i have a standalone disc checker unit that i use, and it fails all the time on the movie Brave, its not scratched or anything, might be new copy protection
[07:19] <akaWolf> aeon-ltd: looks like my kernel not support sound...
[07:19] <Ben64> akaWolf: it should be.... http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/sound/sound:HaswellHDAudioController/
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> Ben64:  yep. Only thing ive seen work for them (to rip or play) is to use 'dvdfab' in wine, or windows.
[07:20] <akaWolf> Ben64: yeah, befor it works...
[07:20] <akaWolf> e
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> Ben64:  and even then. dvdfab couldwent handle some of them. But that was a few months back
[07:20] <Ben64> akaWolf: before what
[07:20] <akaWolf> Ben64: yestarday I installed the oss-base
[07:21] <Ben64> akaWolf: what exactly did you do
[07:21]  * NeverHere is not that familiar with cron jobs, and was wondering if someone could help set up some basic ones on startup...
[07:22] <aeon-ltd> !cron
[07:22] <akaWolf> Ben64: just apt-get install oss4-base
[07:22] <akaWolf> Ben64: and nothing else..
[07:22] <Braden`> Hello
[07:22] <Braden`> What is the package name for Gnome 2?
[07:22] <Ben64> gnome 2 is dead
[07:22] <Braden`> Ah
[07:23] <Braden`> How do I use the 2d ver of Gnome 3?
[07:23] <Ben64> akaWolf: you sure you didn't do something like purge pulseaudio
[07:23] <aeon-ltd> Braden`: if you really want something gnome2 like cinnamon has a ppa
[07:23] <Ben64> Braden`: you should be able to select it at the login screen
[07:23] <Calinou> there is none, Braden`
[07:23] <akaWolf> Ben64: shure, ofc.
[07:23] <Ben64> cinnamon is not a good solution
[07:23] <Calinou> mate is also dead
[07:24] <Calinou> I suggest xfce if you want something close to gnome :P
[07:24] <Ben64> wait... cinnamon is the good one, mate is the bad one
[07:24] <Ben64> i always mix them up
[07:24] <Calinou> cinnamon is still based on gnome 3
[07:24] <Braden`> Which one has the "Applications" list that is a drop-down menu from the top where the icons are on the left of each dropdown and the menu system cascades?
[07:24] <Ben64> ok, then cinnamon is in the repos
[07:24] <Ben64> !info cinnamon
[07:24] <Calinou> Ben64: both xfce and cinnamon :P
[07:26] <akaWolf> but why "dmesg|grep -i snd" is empty?
[07:27] <akaWolf> something changes in the my kernel?
[07:27] <Braden`> The one where the top bar looks like this:  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Sabayon_Linux_5.0_Gnome_Screenshot.png
[07:27] <Calinou> this is gnome 2
[07:27] <Calinou> xfce can be set to be quite close to gnome 2
[07:27] <Calinou> but by default it doesn't look the same
[07:28] <Braden`> Where is the gnome 2 package?
[07:28] <aeon-ltd> !gnome2
[07:28] <Braden`> !otunity
[07:28] <Braden`> !notunity
[07:28] <Braden`> gnome-panel
[07:28] <Braden`> That is what I want
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> gnome shells latet version has a nice gnome-2-ish  mode - thats  nice
[07:29] <Braden`> Dr_Willis:  How do I activate that?
[07:29] <Braden`> I have the gnome-shell package installed already
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> Braden`:  im on 13.10 its some packagte in the repos. i forget the name.
[07:29] <Ben64> !info gnome-fallback
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> it not in the earlier gnome-shjell versions
[07:29] <mizumaru> hi guys
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> 3.8+ i belive has it
[07:30] <Ben64> on 12.04 you can just install gnome-panel and it will pull in what it needs for it
[07:30] <Ben64> !info gnome-panel
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> theres to many differnt gnome-2 lookalike modes ;) none are identical to gnome-2 heh
[07:31] <Ben64> mine is pretty much identical to gnome 2
[07:31] <eer> Is there an Ubuntu for tablet PCs? I don't trust google Android.
[07:31] <Braden`> I just want a low footprint GUI
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> i imagine gnome-shells mode will be come the 'standard' way   once the disrtos start comming with 3.8+ of gnome shell
[07:31] <InFlames> anyone having trouble with the netflix-desktop app and/or pipelight? both are giving me trouble, but the netflix-desktop app used to work
[07:31] <Ben64> !touch | eer
[07:31] <Braden`> That doesn't take over my screen when I click something
[07:31] <aeon-ltd> eer: are you serious? the kernel is near identical
[07:31] <Braden`> Unity is fine if I am wanting flashy thingamabobs, but I want something simple for my dev machine
[07:32] <Braden`> Installing gnome-panel
[07:32] <eer> aeon-ltd, Android is not open source and Android transmits all kinds of passwords secretly to US server, WLAN, etc.
[07:32] <InFlames> eer, that's my beef with it as well
[07:32] <eer> not fully open source
[07:32] <InFlames> it flies in the face of true open source
[07:33] <eer> thx for the link to Touch
[07:33] <aeon-ltd> eer: you talking about the recent wifi password thing?
[07:33] <rypervenche> eer: SailfishOS :)
[07:33] <eer> about anything. google is a CIA front. period
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> !fud
[07:33] <InFlames> that is a bit extreme...
[07:34] <Ben64> also offtopic
[07:34] <aeon-ltd> eer: don't you mean nsa?
[07:34] <eer> Sorry, didn't want to start a discussion about Android. I won't use it. period. Thx for the link to the Ubuntu Touch page. CU
[07:34] <akaWolf> can everyone help me, pls?
[07:34] <InFlames> ben64, you use netflix on ubuntu? i need some help :[
[07:34] <Ben64> nope, sorry
[07:34] <InFlames> akaWolf, what's the problem
[07:35] <InFlames> Ben64, was worth a shot, anyone you think who could?
[07:35] <akaWolf> InFlames: "dmesg|grep -i snd" is empty
[07:35] <InFlames> akaWolf, by the fact that it isn't empty on my system, i'm going to assume that's a problem...
[07:35] <InFlames> this is for sound i take it?
[07:35] <akaWolf> InFlames: yep
[07:36] <InFlames> so basically you have no sound
[07:36] <akaWolf> yes! :)
[07:36] <InFlames> so you thinking a driver issue i guess?
[07:36] <sc99nicolaus> @irc.openjoke.org
[07:36] <InFlames> what sound card?
[07:36] <akaWolf> InFlames: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/sound/sound:HaswellHDAudioController/
[07:36] <InFlames> ah, laptop
[07:36] <sc99nicolaus> irc.openjoke.org
[07:36] <InFlames> or no, desktops too
[07:37] <xmetal> hmm
[07:37] <acr> hi
[07:37] <acr> status of Mir in curent ubuntu?
[07:37] <akaWolf> InFlames: desk
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> its not in the current ubuntu as far as i know acr
[07:37] <InFlames> akaWolf, snd_hda_intell, i believe i have the same card
[07:38] <InFlames> latest ubuntu?
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> its sort of a testing stage in 13.10
[07:38] <acr> wow
[07:38] <InFlames> 13.04?
[07:38] <acr> bad news
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> 13.10 to be released next month
[07:38] <akaWolf> InFlames: Ubuntu 13.04
[07:38] <acr> what status of Mir in 13.10 ?
[07:38] <InFlames> same card, same os, i hope i can help
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> its sort of a testing stage in 13.10
[07:39] <InFlames> akaWolf, you tried reinstalling the driver?
[07:39] <sc99nicolaus> !server
[07:39] <eer> Is Ubuntu Touch completely open source?
[07:40] <eer> Just reading through the pages ...
[07:40] <sc99nicolaus> servers
[07:40] <xmetal> i am on a different distro and i think it's new release is out at the end of November ... next "upgrade" i do i want to try to get (i never used one before) a LTS release
[07:40] <daftykins> eer: #ubuntu-touch is the channel for that one i believe
[07:40] <eer> daftykins, thx
[07:42] <akaWolf> InFlames: no, how to reinstall the driver?
[07:42] <InFlames> anyone here using netflix?
[07:42] <aeon-ltd> InFlames: assume someone is, what's your question?
[07:43] <gulag2013> whoami
[07:43] <InFlames> aeon-ltd, i am having all kinds of trouble getting it to let me watch videos on ubuntu 13.04
[07:44] <acr> what troubles?
[07:45] <junktext> InFlames: Netflix doesn't work in native Linux, due to their use of Microsoft Silverlight.  There is a workaround though that uses a PPA (an independent developer) created.  I tested it in the past, but it was a bit choppy at times.  So, I just use Hulu and Amazon videos.
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> acr, 13.10 is #ubuntu+1 in general, mir is not to be fully implemented till at least 14.04
[07:46] <InFlames> junktext, i was referring to netflix-desktop and pipelight, both are giving me headaches, probably due to me
[07:46] <junktext> Google Play videos work in Linux natively too.
[07:47] <junktext> Yeah, that's the PPA I was referring to.  Made by a coder by the name of cornholio I believe.
[07:47] <InFlames> yea
[07:47] <InFlames> compholio
[07:48] <junktext> Is it your first time using the Netflix-desktop workaround?
[07:48] <InFlames> erich e hoover
[07:48] <InFlames> junktext, sadly, no, it used to work swimmingly
[07:48] <InFlames> and i recently heard about pipelight, so i was trying to get that running
[07:48] <InFlames> netflix gives me an error
[07:48] <InFlames> N8156-6003
[07:49] <InFlames> and all i can determine is it's related to DRM
[07:49] <InFlames> oh, the joys of DRM...
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> have you asked abotu thos befor earlier this week InFlames ?
[07:49] <InFlames> Dr_Willis, with no results, i believe so
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> someone else was having a similer issue i recall. (but it might have been you)
[07:50] <junktext> Oh. Nevermind then. I tested the netflix-deskop app a few times, which worked, but it wasn't the best video quality (as my laptop is somewhat older).  I won't be able to help you.  Sorry!
[07:50] <InFlames> I make it sort of a nightly thing to pop in and ask :/
[07:50] <InFlames> to watch netflix right now i have a laptop connected to my second monitor and controlled via synergy :[
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> I dont have netflix any more. :) i am all amazon-prime these days or Crunchyroll.  so havent tested it in ages
[07:50] <InFlames> all so i can watch terrible old films like Street Fighter..
[07:50] <InFlames> :/
[07:51] <InFlames> with Jean Claude Van Damme...
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> I got a Roku Pluigged into a USB video capture dongle. so i can watch it on the pc ;P
[07:51] <l9> I am using a sickbear install too keep track of my series and what is aired, but is there away too get the sickbear too delete files from harddrive if i remove my serie???
[07:51] <junktext> Crunchyroll, huh? Never heard of it.
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> Crunchyroll = anime. new weekly.
[07:51] <InFlames> Dr_Willis, not a bad idea, but this computer case is so crappy i don't even have but 4 working usb ports, rofl, my problems outweigh my need for netflix
[07:52] <bl4ck> hy all
[07:52] <InFlames> i hear crunchyroll is good, it was on my WDTV but i never watched it
[07:52] <xmetal> i have to say (thanks to "Unity Tweak") Unitiy is not as bad as I first thought
[07:52] <junktext> Ah, okay.  Yeah, I just found it online.  Seems cool.
[07:52] <xmetal> noit my favorite DE but not bad
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> Night all
[07:52] <InFlames> xmetal, what did unity tweak do for you?
[07:52] <gordonjcp> xmetal: unity is actually very good, it's just different to whatever you're used to ;-)
[07:52] <InFlames> i like the familiarity of unity's de, but i wish some things were more the way i like them :/
[07:52] <InFlames> gordonjcp, i actually think unity is pretty decent after using it for so long
[07:53] <xmetal> dater dr
[07:53] <InFlames> everything else feels weird
[07:53] <xmetal> er Later Dr
[07:53] <gulag2013> I would like to see the dash display the most recent installed programs when open. Is that being worked on?
[07:53] <gordonjcp> InFlames: having the bar down the side makes sense
[07:53] <xmetal> "unity Tweak" is the package name
[07:53] <xmetal> or close enough anyway
[07:53] <xmetal> took me some getting use to
[07:53] <InFlames> i like the bar on the side, and i like that it shows on both monitors (are you listening apple?_
[07:54] <InFlames> i just sometimes wish that my menu was inside the application window like windows has it
[07:54] <InFlames> i don't always want to go to the top of the screen to access it, i notice when some applications are run as root (nemo) it works that way
[07:55] <aeon-ltd> InFlames: well some people don't like moving to the window to use the menu
[07:55] <c0p3rn1c> I found the awnser, smbclient  //pc/dir/ -c "ls"
[07:55] <gordonjcp> InFlames: it annoys me sometimes, when I forget the keyboard shortcuts
[07:55] <InFlames> aeon-ltd, the logical problem with that for me is that i never know which window has focus :x
[07:56] <InFlames> i've been known to clutter even the largest monitors, lol
[07:56] <InFlames> i had a 30" and 2 24"s and i'd clutter all of it with windows
[07:56] <aeon-ltd> InFlames: buy 2560x1440 monitors :)
[07:56] <xmetal>  i have liked in various ways almost all the DE's i have tried ... although Cinn 1.64 was just fine and on the same PC, Cinn 1.88 lags so bad i almost cant use it at all
[07:57] <InFlames> xmetal, i did like some elements of cinnamon, but it felt incomplete and kinda wonky at times
[07:57] <InFlames> i think the smoothest most complete feeling de is unity to me
[07:58] <aeon-ltd> that's what they're going for, a better general and easier to use UI
[07:58] <Moseco_> The website for wineh1 is out of date, does anyone know the command to install the latest stable version? (ubuntu 13.04)
[07:58] <InFlames> aeon-ltd, yea definitely
[07:59] <xmetal> true .. it seems buggy at times ... great think about Linux is i can choice which ever DE i feel like at a certain time
[08:00] <xmetal> i do use cinn 1.64 on one of my systems and it seems ok
[08:00] <xmetal> not sure what happened with 1.88
[08:06] <DarkMatter42> Hello people, I was wondering if anyone could help me with a problem I have - I can't boot ubuntu. I have both windows7 and ubuntu installed on my laptop [linux through virtual box] and while I can enter windows, when I select the unix option on start, I see a black screen.
[08:07] <aeon-ltd> DarkMatter42: expand on linux for virtualbox? because you shouldn't have a dual boot option unless you converted the vm to a workable partition
[08:08] <gulag2013> You can do that? Take the VM image and install it?
[08:08] <MonkeyDust> sounds odd to me too
[08:08] <gulag2013> Bare metal I mean?
[08:08] <xmetal> lol i was about to say the same exact thing as gul just said
[08:09] <aeon-ltd> gulag2013: it's possible http://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/ws_disk_raw_install_os.html
[08:09] <xmetal> i am nout sure i'd want to
[08:09] <wilee-nilee> DarkMatter42, The ubuntu virtual is a black screen but windows is normal correct?
[08:09] <xmetal> even if it was possible
[08:09] <gulag2013> I just learned how to save vm's that's great for saving onto different nodes, but this is new to me
[08:09] <xmetal> i'd rather test in VM and then if it "looks good", install on a parition
[08:09] <DarkMatter42> Yes, if I chose the windows option everything is normal [that's how I'm here now], but on linux it goes to black screen.
[08:09] <xmetal> but thats my view
[08:10] <DarkMatter42> a microsecond before the black screen I have 3 error lines that pop and disappear, but I managed to load linux with these errors all the time before.
[08:10] <gulag2013> Oh vmware? I was using virtualbox. Thanks I will read your link
[08:10] <wilee-nilee> DarkMatter42, Has it always done this?
[08:10] <xmetal> i have used various VM "programs" before though I do not have "tons of " experience with vm machines
[08:10] <DarkMatter42> No, only a few days ago. Everything usually works.
[08:11] <xmetal>  uh
[08:11] <wilee-nilee> DarkMatter42, have you tried a nomodeset boot, could be some graphic driver problem, however vbox has its own drivers for some things.
[08:11] <DarkMatter42> I don't have the installation disk.
[08:11] <xmetal> wait .. let me re-read this
[08:12] <DarkMatter42> I think it is some graphic driver problem, something similar had happened before.
[08:12] <xmetal> !nomodeset
[08:12] <xmetal> hmm the bot doesn't like me?
[08:12] <xmetal> ah .. bot was grabbing a power nap ;)
[08:13] <marainein> i recently upgraded my kernel (to 3.8.0-30-generic #44-Ubuntu SMP) usb storage has stopped working for me, although my usb keyboard and mouse are fine
[08:15] <gulag2013> Crap I had that error today to. Something about adding Vboxuser
[08:15] <DarkMatter42> I'm not sure how to set nomodeset if I can't see anything.. I also tried pressing ctrl+alt+fn+f1 and nothing happened.
[08:16] <DarkMatter42> I also tried to assume it's only grephics and enter my pass and open a terminal and try a few commands and nothing seemed to work.
[08:16] <wilee-nilee> DarkMatter42, You would use the shift key at boot to see the grub menu and insert nomodeset, may take a few trys with vbox.
[08:16] <DarkMatter42> Well I've been using linux for a long time with the virtual box and it was never a problem. I can only think of a graphic error or memory stuff.
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> DarkMatter42, shift key at clicking start
[08:17] <DarkMatter42> So after choosing unix I should  press shift + start key a few times and reach to that menu?
[08:18] <wilee-nilee> DarkMatter42, are you starting this in the vbox gui, ubuntu is not unix, the nomodeset link tells you how.
[08:19] <xmetal> grub? ... i thought this was windows with a vm of Ubuntu
[08:19] <wilee-nilee> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[08:20] <DarkMatter42> I'll try to follow the instructions there and will get back here. Thanks!
[08:21] <wilee-nilee> DarkMatter42, Cool, good luck.
[08:22] <InFlames> anyone have experience with netflix on ubuntu with either the desktop app or pipelight?
[08:23] <Franklin> Is there a grsec+pax patch for 3.2.0-54-generic-pae kernel? please help.
[08:23] <gulag2013> It never played that smooth, I hate to say wait cause who knows how long, but silverlight is on the way out. HTML5 Netflix eventually
[08:24] <InFlames> gulag2013, they use silverlight for drm
[08:24] <InFlames> html5 won't be happening anytime soon
[08:24] <ikonia> Franklin: certainly not an ubuntu patch
[08:24] <ikonia> Franklin: a public patch for the 3.2 kernel, maybe.
[08:24] <Franklin> ubuntu cannot be patched ?
[08:24] <InFlames> gulag2013, it also used to run almost perfectly for me, now i can't set it up for the life of me
[08:24] <ikonia> Franklin: of course ubuntu can be patched
[08:25] <Franklin> i installed grsecurity-2.9.1-3.11.2-201309281103.patch
[08:25] <Franklin> and put it in /usr/src/linux-3.2.0-54-generic-pae
[08:25] <Franklin> I did patch p0 > grsecurity-2.9.1-3.11.2-201309281103.patch
[08:25] <Franklin> then it give me an error
[08:25] <ikonia> Franklin: thats because it's for a different kernel
[08:25] <ikonia> Franklin: you're using a 2.9 patch on a 3.2 kernel
[08:25] <InFlames> gulag2013, i keep reading that to fix my problem i need to delete mspr.hds, which i can't locate for the life of me
[08:26] <Franklin> 2.9.1-3.11.
[08:26] <Franklin> it says 2.9.1-3.11.
[08:26] <Franklin> from 2.9.1 to 3.1.1
[08:26] <FloodBot1> Franklin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:26] <ikonia> Franklin: I doubt that's an acceptable range
[08:26] <gulag2013> Inflames, sorry to hear that.  Have you considered just dual booting? I 'm not familiar with that error.
[08:26] <Franklin> can you give me 3.2.0 patch please
[08:26] <ikonia> Franklin: however, other patches maybe causing the conflict, or you're patching with the wrong offset
[08:27] <ikonia> Franklin: I don't have a 3.2 patch,
[08:27] <InFlames> gulag2013, i have been trying to grep the file, maybe i'm just dumb, how wouldm that command look?
[08:27] <mx8manger> hi all
[08:27] <mx8manger> am having issue since i installed the tor daemon
[08:28] <mx8manger> no wait its launchpad ppa
[08:28] <gulag2013> I'm not qualified to answer, I'm just learning linux myself.
[08:28] <mx8manger> its give me NO DATA ERROR
[08:28] <mx8manger> and i cant removed it
[08:30] <ikonia> mx8manger: the people who made that PPA should be able to support you
[08:31] <mx8manger> its in the launchpad.net/ raring relase thing
[08:31] <ikonia> the what ?
[08:32] <DarkMatter42> Hello again, I followed the instructions on the forum about the nomodeset kernel switch and it's still stuck.
[08:32] <hellyeah> i dunno this channel is convenient to ask that. I installed phpbb to my computer. I am using ubuntu 13.04 and i floow the seps for installing it. But it reported mysql is not available. But i already installed mysql what the heck
[08:32] <DarkMatter42> I'm currently stuck on the debian wallpaper though, rather than a blank screen.
[08:32] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: why would ubuntu hve debian wall paper
[08:32] <InFlames> holy hell, i found it :D
[08:32] <ikonia> hellyeah: is mysql running, can phpbb connect to it ?
[08:32] <InFlames> man, looking in the right place always works, rofl
[08:33] <DarkMatter42> I have no idea ^^'
[08:33] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: then you are not using ubuntu
[08:33] <milo64> Ubuntu
[08:33] <milo64> :p
[08:33] <mx8manger> hey ikonia what channel?
[08:33] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: as ubuntu does not display debian wallpaper
[08:33] <ikonia> mx8manger: no idea,
[08:34] <DarkMatter42> I chose the ubuntu option, pressed shift+windows key, reached to a page with the debian wallpaper that had 3 options [linux blabla, linix blabla recovery mode and a third option, and I pressed the 'e' key while being on the first. then changed the linux /boot line's end to nomodeset, and presed cotrl+x. now it's still stuck.
[08:35] <DarkMatter42> The wallpaper is quite nifty though.
[08:35] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: not an official/valid ubuntu install edia then
[08:35] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: ubuntu doesn't display debian wall paper
[08:36] <mx8manger> well then UBUNTU IS FU*cked
[08:36] <hellyeah> ikonia: mysql is running phpbb didnt connect mysql.  Look http://i.imgur.com/d2bVWCu.png
[08:36] <DarkMatter42> My faculty's computer staff installed it for me....
[08:36] <gordonjcp> !attitude | mx8manger
[08:36] <ikonia> mx8manger: your language is not acceptable
[08:37] <ikonia> hellyeah: that means you are missing the php (and gd) php modules
[08:37] <ikonia> sorry the mysql and gd php modules
[08:37] <MonkeyDust> mx8manger  we cannot support any tool that some average Joe created
[08:38] <hellyeah> gd php modules i never heard of it what is that
[08:38] <gordonjcp> mx8manger: looks like you installed tor from a PPA - you would need to contact the PPA maintainer for help
[08:38] <ikonia> hellyeah: graphics library
[08:38] <DarkMatter42> Anyone has another idea?
[08:38] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: use a proper ubuntu install media
[08:38] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: what are you trying to do?
[08:38] <mx8manger> MonkeyDust, you mean jew or JOE
[08:38] <hellyeah> awhat is the package for that can you tell me if you dont mind
[08:38] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: if your ubuntu install is showing you debian wall paper, it's not ubuntu
[08:39] <hellyeah> hmm php5-gd
[08:40] <DarkMatter42> gordonjcp, I can't manage to boot my linux, I get a black screen.
[08:40] <hellyeah> ikonia:  i installed php5-gd i hope it works
[08:40] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: okay, and what exactly are you doing?
[08:40] <ikonia> hellyeah: that will only fix the missing gd, not mysql
[08:40] <DarkMatter42> People here suggested I switch kernerl to nomodeset
[08:40] <hellyeah> yea i am aware what about mysql it is up and running
[08:40] <DarkMatter42> which didn't seem to work.
[08:41] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: start at the start
[08:41] <DarkMatter42> Some graphics malfunciton maybe
[08:41] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: what *exactly* are you trying to do?
[08:41] <DarkMatter42> Enter linux.
[08:42] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: okay, I can't help you any further because you won't answer any questions
[08:42] <DarkMatter42> Or rather, not see a blank screen when entering linux
[08:42] <DarkMatter42> That's as accurate as I can say.. more specific questions might help.
[08:43] <gordonjcp> it's a beautiful sunny warm sunday morning and I am not in the mood to play twenty questions
[08:43] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: I already told you, start at the start.  Tell me exactly what you are doing.
[08:43] <cfhowlett> !details|DarkMatter42,
[08:43] <hellyeah> damns docs
[08:44] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: Which graphics card do you have? (That way we can tell you if it's supported or not)
[08:44] <hellyeah> some docs sucks ass
[08:44] <gordonjcp> PatrickDickey: never mind the graphics card
[08:44] <DarkMatter42> I don't know, how do I check which graphics card I have?
[08:44] <Calinou> lspci | grep VGA
[08:44] <gordonjcp> it doesn't matter what graphics card you have
[08:44] <Calinou> in a terminal
[08:44] <gordonjcp> they all work, somewhat
[08:44] <DarkMatter42> My problem is that I'm seeing a blank screen after chosing the ubuntu option when booting my laptop. [it's either windows or ubuntu]
[08:45] <disarm> hello
[08:45] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: so, you've installed Ubuntu successfully?
[08:45] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: has it ever worked?
[08:45] <DarkMatter42> I'm not sure which version I have, but it might be 12.04.
[08:45] <disarm> Is anyone here good with bash scripting?
[08:45] <gordonjcp> !anyone | disarm
[08:45] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: okay, how did you install it?
[08:46] <DarkMatter42> Yes, it worked great until a few days ago, and for months [since the last problem which was that I didn't have enough free space on ubuntu].
[08:46] <DarkMatter42> and years before that problem.
[08:46] <disarm> !details
[08:46] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: okay, so what might have changed since then?
[08:47] <disarm> I am trying to use sed to grab a string from a sentence, but cannot figure out how to work the wild-cards/regex, any professionals want to chime in?
[08:47] <DarkMatter42> I didn't install it, it was installed at my university by tech people.
[08:47] <disarm> !anyone |disarm
[08:47] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: any chance you can get them to take a look at it?
[08:47] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: the fact that it *was* working is helpful
[08:48] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: so, to recap, you get to the grub screen and you can choose either Windows or Linux?
[08:48] <DarkMatter42> I'm not sure, all I remember is that a few days ago I gate it to a friend for a few hours, they weren't doing anything, then I closed the lid, and after a few hours coming back I noticed the computer didn't go into hibernate [that's a known problem, it sometimes doesn't go to hibernate and I need to re-enter and try to close the lid again before it senses it...], so it was rather warm, and so I closed to properly and when I tried
[08:48] <DarkMatter42> went*
[08:49] <gordonjcp> okay
[08:49] <gordonjcp> so when you get this black screen, is there any disk activity?
[08:49] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: I'd suggsst taking this to your uni team who installed it, as the debian art work makes it sound like it's not an ubuntu install
[08:49] <DarkMatter42> I'd prefer to get help from you/friends before I do that.
[08:49] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: this doesn't sound like it's either a.) ubuntu b.) a proper ubuntu install
[08:49] <madsy> Hm, I'm trying to install Ubuntu, but my laptop screen is never turned on during the installation. What could be wrong? I've gone as far as disabling secure boot and UEFI, but nothing seems to work. This is a Lenovo
[08:50] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: silly question have you tried a) unplugging any USB devices like media players, USB sticks etc and b) have you tried turning the screen brightness up?
[08:50] <DarkMatter42> It can't be a virtual box sort of thing?
[08:50] <gordonjcp> brb, door
[08:50] <DarkMatter42> When I boot the laptop I get to the windows or ubuntu menu. if I chose windows, it all works properly. if I chose the ubuntu, I get to a blank screen.
[08:51]  * cfhowlett ... *wubi* ???
[08:51] <DarkMatter42> Never happened before. last time I had a problem I did manage to get to the text version and remove a few files to have more free space, which was the problem, and then when I rebooted it worked. now I can't even get there.
[08:52] <DarkMatter42> I don't have any usb attached.
[08:52] <DarkMatter42> Screen brightness is at max.
[08:52] <pompa> Hello, i want to install Ubuntu, what version i should install?. Ubuntu12.04.3 or Ubuntu 13.04?
[08:52] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: If you go into Windows, and check the Installed Programs (Control Panel -> Add/Remove Programs or Installed Programs), do you see Ubuntu listed in there by chance?
[08:52] <DarkMatter42> Yes
[08:52] <ikonia> DarkMatter42 where do you see the debian logo ?
[08:52] <DarkMatter42> I'm 80% sure about that, I'll go look again.
[08:52] <DarkMatter42> I'll search for the wallpaper..
[08:53] <ikonia> this all sounds very wrong
[08:53] <hellyeah> what is wallpaper?
[08:53] <ikonia> hellyeah: image on your desktop background
[08:54] <hellyeah> humm
[08:54] <hellyeah> he has debian wallpaper in the background?
[08:54] <PatrickDickey> I'm guessing he found the debian wallpaper, and installed it.
[08:55] <Myrtti> I thought it was grub background
[08:55]  * PatrickDickey missed the part about the debian wallpaper.. I must have been sleeping then.
[08:56] <PatrickDickey> Well they could have done that for him also. I had my laptop set up to show a background on Grub for a bit.
[08:56] <tozen> madsy: read this link: http://askubuntu.com/questions/272570/unable-to-install-ubuntu-on-lenovo-y500
[08:56] <DarkMatter42> I can't seem to find the picture... it says "debian / The Universal Operating System" at the bottom right.
[08:57] <DarkMatter42> You see stars and a bit of earth in space, and the debian logo [the spiral with a spaceship] is on the top right.
[08:58] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: okay, that's not Ubuntu
[08:58] <DarkMatter42> lol
[08:58] <milo64> ikonia: ...
[08:58] <Myrtti> that's the plymouth boot animation background
[08:58] <ikonia> milo64: what ?
[08:58] <milo64> ikonia: Hello! :D
[08:59] <DarkMatter42> hurray. so.. do you know who can help me?
[08:59] <milo64> ikonia: i was just saying hi :p
[08:59] <ikonia> ok
[08:59] <Myrtti> DarkMatter42: but what makes you think it is Ubuntu still?
[08:59] <DarkMatter42> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1908850
[09:00] <DarkMatter42> Because I have the windows or Ubuntu option, and because all of the names of the files are ubuntu everywhere
[09:02] <DarkMatter42> <I use gnome and it seems to be a "common" thing there>
[09:02] <DarkMatter42> Anyway, I still can't boot linux properly, if you aren't able to help, maybe you can tell me where I can try and find help?
[09:03] <MonkeyDust> DarkMatter42  try reinstalling ubuntu
[09:04] <DarkMatter42> won't it erase my files there?
[09:04] <DarkMatter42> How can I get the installation cd if I won't go back to the tech people at the univesity?
[09:05] <ikonia> why won't you go back ?
[09:05] <ikonia> they installed it, they seem the logical choice to help you fix it
[09:05] <MonkeyDust> DarkMatter42  go into windows, create a ubuntu live cd or usb from there
[09:05] <MonkeyDust> oh, seems I missed some part
[09:05] <DarkMatter42> They installed it for a summer project I had, last summer. I won't feel good about coming with my problems now.
[09:06] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: then grow up and talk to them about it
[09:06] <RudyValencia> Hi, is there a way I can figure out how a particular package is built (as in, what commands are being used to build it)?
[09:06] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: they are there to help and support you, swallow your pride and explain your problems
[09:06] <DarkMatter42> I did have linux before though that someone installed for me, but they wanted to install it again themselves. the files weren't lost then by the way..
[09:06] <RudyValencia> (I'm trying to adapt a package to another Linux distro for a friend who isn't using Ubuntu)
[09:06] <ikonia> RudyValencia: grab the package source (deb source) and look in the dist file for the options used
[09:07] <DarkMatter42> pride? i have none of that. I'm just not sure I can turn to them with my ubuntu problems anymore because I'm not doing any research for the university at the moment.
[09:07] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: then re-install it with a known good copy of ubuntu
[09:07] <ikonia> !install | DarkMatter42
[09:08] <DarkMatter42> will it erase the files i have there now though?
[09:08] <DarkMatter42> I can't even go to the text-version to back them up..
[09:08] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: take a backup of any files you need
[09:08] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: the install media is also live media, it will allow you to backup what you need
[09:08] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: Are you still a student/faculty member at the university?
[09:08] <Myrtti> so it's a Ubuntu converted from a virtualbox installation to a one running straight on the hardware?
[09:09] <DarkMatter42> I'm still a student, yes, but I won't start my research before June..
[09:09] <RudyValencia> ikonia: which file would that be?
[09:09] <DarkMatter42> It might me, I'm not sure.
[09:09] <PatrickDickey> If you're still a student, then they *should* help you.
[09:09] <ikonia> RudyValencia: not got a debian source package to hand.....
[09:09] <RudyValencia> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/raring/resiprocate
[09:09] <DarkMatter42> All I know is that from Ubuntu I can reach my windows files, but not the other way around.
[09:10] <RudyValencia> I'm trying to figure out how the resiprocate-turn-server subpackage is compiled
[09:10] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: That's because Windows doesn't read the type of file system that Linux uses. You'd have to boot a Live CD to copy your files over to the windows side.
[09:11] <DarkMatter42> Ok, I'll do that, I guess..
[09:11] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: On a slightly related note, is this the picture you see in grub http://lazybrowndog.net/debian/squeeze/bugfixes/grub/spacefun-grub-widescreen.png?
[09:11] <DarkMatter42> yes ^^
[09:12] <PatrickDickey> It's one of the themes that you can install for a background. Ubuntu doesn't have their own, so they offer you the stock debian ones.
[09:12] <DarkMatter42> any ideals which installation path I should take? I'd prefer to have the same thing i have now, which is probably a virtual box with a windows/ubuntu option at start.
[09:12] <excognac> hi all. I've created a boot repair usb but laptop wouldn't  boot from it even boot order is properly set and the stik was created with sudo dd if=... of=.. from live cd, the usb stick looks fine
[09:12]  * PatrickDickey that was more for everyone else's benefit
[09:12] <DarkMatter42> that sounds reasonable.
[09:12] <ikonia> PatrickDickey: always useful to know
[09:13] <JustSighDudes> I just rented a VPS. I can SSH to it using its IP but not using a domain name I have pointed to the IP using an A directive. Any idea why?
[09:13] <ikonia> JustSighDudes: has dns propogated ?
[09:13] <madsy> tozen: Haha.. I'm a moron. Ubuntu just happened to boot with the screen brightness turned all the way down
[09:13] <JustSighDudes> ikonia: Yeah. I can access HTTP fine.
[09:14] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: I don't remember if you checked the Add/Remove Programs to see if Ubuntu was listed in there or not.
[09:14] <ikonia> JustSighDudes: if you do an "nslookup" on the hostname you are using to ssh what happens ?
[09:15] <ikonia> JustSighDudes: sorry, the hostname/fqdn you are trying to ssh "to"
[09:15] <ikonia> just to be clear.
[09:15] <excognac> any ideas why my stick doesn't work?
[09:15] <duper> ls
[09:15] <DarkMatter42> doing it now
[09:15] <JustSighDudes> ikonia: I get a different IP. That's strange.
[09:16] <ikonia> JustSighDudes: sounds like dns is either not propogated fully, or you've got a local entry somewhere on your machine that conflicts
[09:16] <JustSighDudes> ikonia: No local entry. Must be propogation. But why would HTTP work?
[09:17] <DarkMatter42> PatrickDickey, yes, I have Ubuntu on that list, apparently version 11.04-rev211 if it helps.
[09:18] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: Yep. that means that they installed Ubuntu via wubi. Which might explain half of the problem you're having. So, your best option for reinstallation is just a dual-boot (because Wubi isn't supported anymore).
[09:18] <cfhowlett> PatrickDickey, bad news.  wubi done a dracula and risen from the grave.
[09:18] <DarkMatter42> Can you explain in a few words what's Wubi?
[09:19] <PatrickDickey> Just lovely. There really is such a thing as a zombie then.
[09:19] <DarkMatter42> <yes, I can google, but I prefer a nice summation from someone here>
[09:19] <PatrickDickey> !wubi | DarkMatter42
[09:19] <DarkMatter42> You mean I have a zombie linux version?
[09:19] <DarkMatter42> So why shouldn't it work now?
[09:19] <PatrickDickey> No, just a buggy installation (at least in the past).
[09:19] <DarkMatter42> <It's installed from windows 7>
[09:20] <cfhowlett> DarkMatter42, wubi is a virtualization for TESTING ubuntu ... not for long-term installation.  it installs in windows and is subject to all the weaknesses thereof
[09:20] <gordonjcp> I'm sure wubi seemed like a good idea at the time
[09:21] <gordonjcp> like lots of other things, such as sarin
[09:21] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, and people used to take medicinal cocaine
[09:21] <DarkMatter42> So I found this option: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How_to_dual-boot_Ubuntu_and_XP_after_installing_them_separately_on_two_HDs but no case seem to be right for me..
[09:21] <madsy> In the Ubuntu 13 installer, if I choose "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 8", will the installation create the necessary UEFI boot partition?
[09:21] <DarkMatter42> So how should I go about and re-installing it?
[09:22] <DarkMatter42> <I prefer through a USB since I don't have a CD. I can burn one, but not sure what's better>
[09:22] <cfhowlett> DarkMatter42, USB is better IMO
[09:22] <InFlames> wubi is really slow, is it not?
[09:22] <InFlames> since it's not native
[09:22] <InFlames> i've used it before once
[09:22] <DarkMatter42> hmmok, it's weird before I did manage to operate matlab through it, so it's probably a good testing installation, heh.
[09:22] <gordonjcp> yeah
[09:23] <DarkMatter42> It wasn't slow at all for me.
[09:23] <DarkMatter42> I even managed to operate Mathematica.
[09:23] <cfhowlett> InFlames, not noticeably slow
[09:23] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: have you compared it to a native install?
[09:23] <ikonia> JustSighDudes: cached entry on a server that has popogated perhaps ?
[09:23] <cfhowlett> DarkMatter42, now virtualbox/vmware can be noticeably slower
[09:23] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: before you go the reinstallation route, you might look in the troubleshooting section of the wubi guide that ubottu linked to. They have a couple of things you can try if Ubuntu doesn't boot.
[09:23] <DarkMatter42> No, but I did compare it to my super-slow stationary computer and my regular speed windows and it was like the latter.
[09:24] <Pythonisto> hello
[09:25] <RudyValencia> I'm still trying to figure this out
[09:25] <cfhowlett> Pythonisto, geetings
[09:25] <Pythonisto> I was reading about Ubuntu Touch
[09:26] <JustSighDudes> ikonia: It's been around 30 hours though. This seems to be more complicated than that.
[09:26] <JustSighDudes> ikonia: anything in ssh.conf that might cause this?
[09:26] <cfhowlett> !touch|Pythonisto,
[09:26] <Pythonisto> is Ubuntu Touch going to work on Sony Xperia U ? is there any website that I check this?
[09:27] <Pythonisto> ah, you're fast
[09:27] <Pythonisto> thanks ;)
[09:27] <cfhowlett> Pythonisto, have fun
[09:27] <Pythonisto> thanks
[09:27] <ice9> I installed cinnamon  but it's not showing any panels, only the desktop icon!
[09:27] <ice9> icons*
[09:27] <Pythonisto> do you happen to know the process of flashing my phoen ROM with this Ubuntu Touch?
[09:27] <Pythonisto> phoen=phone
[09:28] <cfhowlett> Pythonisto, ask in !touch that's what's it's for.
[09:28] <guest43827> exit
[09:28] <Pythonisto> okay
[09:29] <hansg01> hi just a simple question, which is the right place to ask about ubuntu mobile os?
[09:29] <excognac> any ideas why my laptop wouln't boot from a boot-repair-disk-64bit.iso (latest version) when it has 12.04 kubuntu installed on with messed up grub2? boot order properly set.
[09:29] <cfhowlett> !touch|hansg01,
[09:30] <excognac> the boot-repair is on a usb-stick
[09:30] <DarkMatter42> I got to here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html but no solution seems right either, PatrickDickey
[09:31] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: it sounds like it's installed in wubi
[09:31] <gordonjcp> DarkMatter42: the best thing is to wipe it and start again
[09:31] <ikonia> JustSighDudes: unlikely
[09:31] <MonkeyDust> DarkMatter42  is it a wubi installation?
[09:31] <ikonia> JustSighDudes: what distro is the client/server
[09:31] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide There's a section called "Cannot Boot Into Ubuntu" and one about accessing your files.
[09:32] <JustSighDudes> ikonia: ubuntu 12.04 and same+putty for client
[09:32] <ikonia> JustSighDudes: your using putty on ubuntu ?
[09:32] <JustSighDudes> ikonia: I'll just give it time. Don't worry about it.
[09:33] <JustSighDudes> ikonia: Yes. no jk jk. I meant I tried on both putty and regular terminal.
[09:33] <ikonia> JustSighDudes the ssh and sshd configs should cause no problems like this by default,
[09:33] <JustSighDudes> putty on windows, that is.
[09:33] <DarkMatter42> It seems that I need to have a cd/usb ubuntu installation anyway... so where can I find the best thing to have if I still want to have a double-boot option and a way of saving my files before re-installing?
[09:34] <JustSighDudes> It's definitely a DNS issue thought. I'm too sleepy to realize that nslookup gave the wrong IP and that's the cause of the problem and not ssh_config.
[09:34] <JustSighDudes> ikonia: It's cool though. Thanks for your help.
[09:35] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: have you actually READ the install information ubottu gave you earlier
[09:35] <ikonia> !install | DarkMatter42
[09:35] <kblin> hi folks
[09:35] <RudyValencia> hm
[09:36] <kblin> I've got some fun with network manager currently
[09:36] <DarkMatter42>  I went there and saw a few options but wasn't sure what's the best.
[09:36] <kblin> it seems to be injecting two bogus nameservers and a bogus search domain into my /etc/resolv.conf
[09:37] <bekks> kblin: Which ones?
[09:37] <kblin> they're my name servers and domain from at work
[09:37] <ikonia> kblin: used a vpn recenently by any chance....
[09:38] <kblin> I have used a VPN, but I'm seeing that even without having used the VPN on a fresh boot
[09:38] <DarkMatter42> 12.04 or 13.04?
[09:38] <kblin> 13.04
[09:38] <ikonia> kblin: yes, someone else reported this yesterday
[09:38] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: whatever suits your needs best
[09:38] <ikonia> DarkMatter42: only you can really decide that
[09:38] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: Down near the bottom are "Other installation Guides". You're only going to care about either Multi-oS boot, WIndows-dual-boot, and wubi. Mainly the last two. They both have their advantages/disadvantages.
[09:39] <PatrickDickey> DarkMatter42: That's on the installation guide page that ubottu gave you.
[09:39] <fgsfdsfgs> good day, kind sirs
[09:39] <fgsfdsfgs> i have a couple of questions on UEFI booting.
[09:40] <kblin> ikonia: so currently I'm fixing my resolv.conf file manually, but I need to do that on every DHCP lease renewal, which is a tad annoying
[09:40] <ikonia> kblin: yes, exactly the same situation as someone else yesterday
[09:40] <DarkMatter42> So I'll go with Wubi then?
[09:40] <bekks> DarkMatter42: No.
[09:41] <bekks> DarkMatter42: Dont go with wubi, never.
[09:41] <DarkMatter42> :(
[09:41] <fgsfdsfgs> so i have one of these godblasted samsung SmartPC XE500 tablets, which run on Atom CloverTrail
[09:41] <DarkMatter42> MultiOsBOot then?
[09:41] <bekks> DarkMatter42: Yes. Or setup a vm.
[09:41] <subz3r0> signed. stay away from wubi :D
[09:42] <DarkMatter42> Which way wll enable me to see files on ubuntu from windows and vice versa?
[09:42] <fgsfdsfgs> and i managed to install the IA32 version of refind on it, which sort of works and boots up win8
[09:42] <bekks> DarkMatter42: Not necessarily.
[09:43] <subz3r0> DarkMatter42: use a partition with ntfs to share things
[09:43] <BlitzHere> Hi all. So, I managed to break my system and am doing a clean install of 13.04. I have a ~465GB hard drive. I'm going to be dealing with a huge amount of data and I'm not sure what my requirements will be in the future. What I want to do is to put /usr and /home on one massive partition on the main hard drive to maximize flexibility between apps and personal data and stick the rest on to my USB 3.0 flash drive. What would be the right way to do this? I'm
[09:43] <fgsfdsfgs> so the question is: is there any way at all to boot an ubuntu usb stick with 32-bit refind?
[09:43] <fgsfdsfgs> i heard the live images don't quite work on EFIx86
[09:44] <BlitzHere> I've got 8GB of RAM. I figure I can put the swap partition on the USB drive as it's hardly used anyway...
[09:44] <ikonia> BlitzHere: bad idea
[09:44] <bekks> BlitzHere: Use 256M for /boot and the rest for LVM. Using LVM, you are flexible on distributing space between / and /home and /usr and whatever you want to have as mountpoints.
[09:44] <kblin> BlitzHere: I get this for /home, but /usr?
[09:45] <ikonia> BlitzHere: no idea why you want to use /usr either
[09:45] <Calinou> LVM is slower, just saying
[09:45] <ikonia> BlitzHere: why not keep it simple and just make 1 partition /
[09:45] <ikonia> that way it's all directory based
[09:46] <bekks> Calinou: Thats FUD, again. You cant even notice the difference without a millisecond-stopwatch.
[09:46] <BlitzHere> kblin, ikonia: Steam games and stuff take up gigs and gigs of data. I figured I can delete some games if I need space for personal files later, which I probably will...
[09:46] <BlitzHere> Hmmm, okay
[09:46] <ikonia> BlitzHere still no need to have a sepearate partition for /usr
[09:46] <Calinou> also uses more CPU :P
[09:46] <PatrickDickey> And with 8GB of RAM, do you really need a swap partition anyhow? I've read somewhere that above 4, you don't need it (of course that's not future-proof).
[09:46] <bekks> Calinou: See above.
[09:46] <ikonia> BlitzHere: if you want it simple - just use 1 partition for / and 1 partition for swap
[09:46] <BlitzHere> Aren't all apps on /usr?
[09:47] <ikonia> BlitzHere: yes ?
[09:47] <kblin> PatrickDickey: so clearly the old "swap is ram * 2" thing is silly with large ram sizes
[09:47] <Calinou> if you're not going to resize your partitions, no need for LVM
[09:47] <PatrickDickey> BlitzHere: Some can be installed in /opt also.
[09:47] <ikonia> BlitzHere: why does that mean you need a seperate partition then ?
[09:47] <Calinou> LVM is also harder to manage software wise
[09:47] <ikonia> Calinou: this is just nonsense
[09:47] <ikonia> Calinou: please stop making things up - you've been warned about this before
[09:47]  * PatrickDickey uses LVM on all of his Fedora installs.
[09:48] <bekks> Calinou: See above again.
[09:48] <kblin> PatrickDickey: I've run out of 8 GB of RAM before, though, so I'd still add some swap :)
[09:48] <kblin> PatrickDickey: then again, I've got 256 GB ram systems at work, and those don't have swap
[09:49] <kblin> PatrickDickey: so I guess this really depends on what you're planning to do with the system
[09:49] <aylerni> Yo. why my mouse only works 1 of 2 restarts? why the display is too small for monitor, Thanx.
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> !details | aylerni
[09:50] <kblin> I mean I ran out of ram on the 256 GB system as well, but falling back to spinning rust instead of ram would be too slow as well, so I prefer the whole thing to just die
[09:50] <fgsfdsfgs> and uh, can i just dd the liveiso onto a usb drive for it to work properly?
[09:50] <aylerni> im on 13.04, trying to run system, getting too small display for monitor and no mouse input from touchkeyboard, THNX
[09:50] <PatrickDickey> kblin: Very true. Personally, I still add swap. Even with 8GB, I'd add it, since the 16GB of drive space is negligible if you've got a multi-TB drive.
[09:51] <kblin> PatrickDickey: on the other end of the spectrum, I've got a 128 MB ram system without swap
[09:51] <PatrickDickey> aylerni: When you say too small of a display, does it show up as a small display in the center surrounded by black bars, or is the text just too small to read?
[09:51] <kblin> because the "hdd" there is an SD card, and using those as flash is a great method to kill them fast
[09:52] <Calinou> no, it isn't, flash lasts very long
[09:52] <Calinou> (inb4 "oh made up")
[09:52] <aylerni> well, its a stretched screen (in height), and there is black bars around the screen
[09:52] <Calinou> I have swap on my SSD, which is rarely used, but it certainly doesn't kill it
[09:52] <Calinou> it's FUD (oh, irony) to say you can kill a SSD or such by writing to it
[09:52] <kblin> Calinou: well, SSDs have wear leveling and all
[09:53] <aylerni> installed nvidia-current, but not sure it finishd, accidently pressed reboot
[09:53] <ikonia> Calinou: it is not "fud" - use software mirroring on an SSD and watch it die VERY quickly
[09:53] <kblin> Calinou: but talking from practical experience on cheap SD cards, I can produce defect sectors within weeks if I put swap onto it
[09:53] <BlitzHere> ikonia, Well, I figured I'd use my main hard purely for apps and data (and maybe the EFI and boot partitions) and the USB flash drive for everything else. I will probably have games on /usr meaning that the amount of space used by that would vary wildly. I suppose the simplest thing to do would be to put everything on the main hard drive, turn the USB flash drive into swap and buy an external hard drive when I need more space but I figured I could try so
[09:53] <Calinou> ikonia: of course you shouldn't defrag a SSD
[09:53] <ikonia> BlitzHere: do not use usb for swap
[09:54] <PatrickDickey> Calinou: in the past, an SSD (or "flash") drive was only good for a few hundred thousand reads and writes. That's why it was recommended not to put a swap file on a SSD drive. Admitedly, I don't know if it still holds true.
[09:54] <ikonia> Calinou: no-one said anyting about defrag
[09:54] <kblin> Calinou: and identical hardware without swap had the SD card holding out much longer
[09:54] <ikonia> Calinou: I said software mirror an SSD and it will die quickly - this nothing to do with defrag
[09:54] <rymate1234> I have ubuntu server 12.04, and I'm sending emails from a drupal site via postfix on my server. However the emails are ending up in the spam folders of both gmail accounts I'm testing with. Is there anyway this can be fixed?
[09:54] <Calinou> depends what it is mirrored to
[09:54] <bekks> Calinou: Thats FUD again, regarding fragmentation and SSD.
[09:54] <kblin> but, as I said, that was for ten bucks a pop SD cards
[09:54] <ikonia> Calinou: so your final warning - STOP with the random facts of false
[09:55] <starbuck> hi, how can i configure a static ip for a pcmcia NIC?
[09:55] <bekks> starbuck: sure.
[09:55] <ikonia> starbuck: same as a non pcmia nick
[09:55] <PatrickDickey> rymate1234: Go into your gmail accounts and add the root@localdomain or whatever their address is, to your contacts. And tell Google (in the spam folder) that they're not junk. That *should* work.
[09:55] <solitaire> you're a false
[09:55] <ikonia> nic even
[09:56] <solitaire> ikonia: this statement is false
[09:56] <rymate1234> PatrickDickey, this is for user registrations.....
[09:56] <rymate1234> I can't tell every person who registers to do that
[09:56] <solitaire> Calinou: you're also a false
[09:57] <kingplusplus> please i need some assistance... I have created a shared folder with samba  the folder path is "/SharedFolder" but i can copy and paste from my ubuntu but on the other system I can access the folder and paste files... also files pasted show a padlock files from other pc
[09:57] <aylerni> i go install windows, bye, ByuahuAUhuahuahu
[09:57] <kblin> ikonia: thanks
[09:57] <PatrickDickey> rymate1234: Why not? Most sites have a disclaimer that says "To avoid our emails going into your SPAM folder, please add us to your addressbook." Your other option is to register a domain, and point it to your drupal site. Then configure postfix to use that domain for it's email addresses.
[09:57] <fgsfdsfgs> jebus, i totally forgot how to even use irc
[09:58] <BlitzHere> ikonia - Hmmm, why? My main hard drive is definitely faster. It's a 7200rpm 500GB unit and I get sequential speeds of about 130MB/s. The USB 3.0 drive does about 75-80MB/s on sequential reads and about 12-15ish MB/s on sequential writes, but I figured that with 8GB of RAM, I'll hardly be using swap at all. Are my assumptions wrong? Can I use that USB stick for anything other than storage?
[09:58] <ikonia> BlitzHere it doesn't matter if you use swap or not - don't put it on an external dricveve
[09:59] <bekks> BlitzHere: Your harddrive is much more faster than your USB, and RAM is even much more faster. So dont put swap on USB.
[09:59] <Zigara> any suggestions for authoritative DNS server software?
[09:59] <Zigara> besides bind
[09:59] <kblin> Zigara: in an AD setting, I'm partial to using the one shipped with Samba
[10:00] <PatrickDickey> Zigara: not so much for Linux. If you're using Windows, you could see if Treewalk is still being developed.
[10:00] <kblin> Zigara: but a) that only makes sense if you run an AD domain, and b) I'm biased because I wrote it
[10:00] <bekks> BlitzHere: And an external drive can be disconnected online - which will cause severe problems when being used as swap.
[10:00] <Zigara> PatrickDickey: that is funny
[10:00] <BlitzHere> ikonia, bekks, okay. I suppose I'll do it the boring way and put everything on the hard drive...
[10:01] <BlitzHere> Thanks
[10:01]  * PatrickDickey was serious, but yeah it is kind of funny
[10:01] <kblin> Zigara: BIND unfortunately is pretty much the state of the art
[10:01] <rymate1234> PatrickDickey, I have a domain name, and I've pointed it to the drupal site
[10:01] <rymate1234> lmao
[10:01] <Zigara> I'm using powerdns at the moment and it's held up great, but looking to see the other options for my new deployment
[10:02] <kblin> Zigara: in fact many of the DNS protocol specs happen to be written in a way that makes them easy to implement in BIND
[10:02] <PatrickDickey> rymate1234: when you send emails out, do they come from your domain name, or root@localhost.localdomain?
[10:02] <Zigara> well, I am considering bind of course, was just curious what other names people throw out there
[10:02] <kblin> feature-wise, I think nothing gets close to bind 9
[10:02] <rymate1234> they come from @mydomain.co.uk
[10:02] <kblin> stay away from bind 10 for the next couple of years
[10:02] <Zigara> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_DNS_server_software#Feature_matrix
[10:03] <rymate1234> with my domain replaced with mydomain.co.uk lmao
[10:03] <Zigara> I'm looking at this here
[10:03] <PatrickDickey> rymate1234: Then I think your only option is to tell them to add that email address to their whitelist.
[10:03] <rymate1234> k
[10:03] <Zigara> I was expecting at least someone to suggest another one, but it seems everyone loves bind
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> Zigara  if you don't get an answer here, try #ubuntu-server
[10:04] <Zigara> oh
[10:04] <Zigara> didn't know that existed, nice
[10:04] <Zigara> MonkeyDust: thanks
[10:05] <kblin> Zigara: I really dislike bind, but it's a bit hard to argue against their feature-set
[10:05] <PatrickDickey> Zigara: Not that this is perfect, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_DNS_server_software shows some of the comparisons. It looks like Bind and PowerDNS are both equal in terms of features. Everything else listed is lacking something.
[10:05] <kblin> also reminds me that I need to get Samba DNS onto that list
[10:05] <Zigara> I did get a suggestion to use NSD, which seems to have quite a few features on there
[10:06] <Zigara> "It was developed by NLnet Labs of Amsterdam in cooperation with the RIPE NCC"
[10:06] <Zigara> that is appealing
[10:07] <gordonjcp> just use BIND
[10:07] <Zigara> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSD
[10:07] <Zigara> some of the root dns servers moved to NSD, interesting
[10:08] <Night-hacks> i get this error:  E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the
[10:08] <Night-hacks> and i want to ignore this becuase it maks my computer to freeze
[10:09] <Night-hacks> any idea to make dpkg to ignore it ?
[10:09] <bioevolgenec> Hello. I have an issue with my current installation of 13.10. While in every previous version, the laptop would suspend when the battery was low, it now shuts down. Furthermore, there is no "suspend" option in power settings, when battery is critically low.
[10:09] <columb> Is it safe to delete /tmp? I don't want to reboot. http://i.imgur.com/q8TSEVi.png
[10:09] <cfhowlett> !saucy|bioevolgenec, q
[10:10] <kblin> Zigara: the main advantage of bind is that once you know how to use it, you can pretty much use it everywhere. but of course if you only need the non-caching non-recursive authoritative part, NSD looks nice indeed
[10:10] <PatrickDickey> Night-hacks: did you try running sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[10:10] <Night-hacks> yes
[10:10] <Night-hacks> PatrickDickey: yes
[10:10] <Night-hacks> PatrickDickey:  it wants to install some module from source, but system freezes
[10:11] <Night-hacks> PatrickDickey: anyway to ignore it ?
[10:11] <Zigara> kblin: yeah I agree with that, I'm kind of torn between the two at the moment, my needs do suit NSD quite well
[10:11] <kblin> Zigara: also, NSD has a public source repository, that makes it much nicer than BIND from the developer perspective
[10:12] <Zigara> I'll give NSD a shot, I'll have bind to fall back on worst case
[10:12] <kblin> I totally need to look at their TSIG implementation. this seems so much cleaner than the mess that is BIND
[10:13] <kblin> too bad it's not useable for AD local use :/
[10:13] <PatrickDickey> Night-hacks: You can also try running sudo dpkg --remove --pending to remove any pending updates. Then, re-run apt-get. I'd say check the man page for dpkg first though, and read about it.
[10:13] <kblin> Zigara: it seems to be pretty straightforward to switch between them, seeing how NSD can use the same zone file format
[10:14] <Zigara> yeah I saw that, will be very nice
[10:14] <Zigara> I'm going from a custom built web interface for powderdns to config files, I've always been a config file guy but for some reason I went web for dns
[10:15] <Zigara> I'll be much more happy just sshing in and popping open vim
[10:15] <kblin> Zigara: I'm dealing with the config being in LDAP in a binary form. yay active directory... not
[10:15] <Zigara> AD makes me sad lol
[10:15] <Zigara> I've got to deal with a pure windows based AD setup, and it's my fault for poorly managing it, but it's caused me some real headaches
[10:16] <kblin> I mean the basic idea is really nice
[10:16] <Zigara> oh yes, the idea is awesome
[10:16] <kblin> but why MS had to slightly break every protocol for their use is beyond me
[10:17] <PatrickDickey> If I were a betting man, I'd say they broke the protocols, so that you were forced (at the time) to use their software.
[10:18] <kblin> PatrickDickey: I'd guess it just made their features easier to implement
[10:19] <kblin> PatrickDickey: the lock-in certainly was an added bonus :)
[10:19] <PatrickDickey> Very true. :)
[10:19] <kblin> but I doubt it drove design decisions
[10:21] <kingplusplus> samba help file sharing problem. setting up samba edited /etc/samba/smb.conf as follows http://paste.ubuntu.com/6170599/ but folders and files created from my Mac computer has a padlock on my ubuntu and can not be edited. Please any advise or help?
[10:22] <sathish> Hi guys, I have a live usb ubuntu with persistant storage, how can I read its filesystem when I'm inside real ubuntu system?
[10:22] <BlitzHere> How do I reach grub recovery menu when booting in EFI mode? Holding shift as usual doesn't work
[10:23]  * PatrickDickey wonders how badly he can break an Amahi Home server by replacing BIND with PowerDNS...
[10:23] <kblin> kingplusplus: the ubuntu system being the system samba runs on?
[10:24] <kingplusplus> kblin, yes the samba is running on ubuntu
[10:24] <hellyeah> ubuntu is good
[10:24] <hellyeah> but
[10:24] <hellyeah> unity somewhat sucks
[10:24] <kblin> kingplusplus: the default guest account is "nobody", so the files created from the mac will be owned by "nobody"
[10:24] <hellyeah> i suppose compiz is unmaintained
[10:24] <hellyeah> in debian there is no package about compiz
[10:24] <cfhowlett> hellyeah, logout.  click the gear.  choose a different windows manager.  login.  done.
[10:24] <bekks> hellyeah: Your assumption is wrong.
[10:25] <bekks> hellyeah: And this is ubuntu, not debian.
[10:25] <hellyeah> but in ubuntu there are lots of packages
[10:25] <hellyeah> wait for sentence to finish :D
[10:25] <cfhowlett> !compiz
[10:25] <kingplusplus> kblin, how do i make nobody have access to do all?
[10:25] <kblin> kingplusplus: I think the issue is that your user doesn't have access to those files
[10:26] <kblin> kingplusplus: do you have multiple users you care about, or is that a system only you use?
[10:26] <kingplusplus> its the system only i use... that is, 1 Mac and 1 Ubuntu
[10:27] <kingplusplus> kblin its the system only i use... that is, 1 Mac and 1 Ubuntu
[10:28] <kblin> kingplusplus: then I guess the best fix is to add a "force user = yourusername" to that share
[10:28] <kingplusplus> kblin, which username? the mac username or the ubuntu?
[10:28] <kblin> the username on ubuntu
[10:29] <kblin> kingplusplus: and to fix the existing files, sudo chown -R yourusername /MyShare
[10:30] <kblin> kingplusplus: you'll want to reload the samba service after changing smb.conf
[10:31] <kingplusplus> kblin, thanks, but how do i undo this? i have done "sudo chown -R nobody:nogroup /shares/myshare"
[10:31] <kingplusplus> kblin, i did that while searching google for solution
[10:32] <kblin> then you'll want to sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername /shares/myshare
[10:32] <kblin> and is the path /MyShare or /shares/myshare ?
[10:32] <kingplusplus> kblin, it is MyShare
[10:32] <kingplusplus> i copied and pasted it it
[10:33] <kblin> kingplusplus: ok, as long as you get the correct one :)
[10:34] <kblin> so basically what you want to do is to make the local directory owned by your user so you can access it locally, and then force network access to happen as your user as well
[10:34] <kblin> that's what "force user" does
[10:34] <kblin> it's not nice to use this for larger setups with multiple users, but for the simple case it'll get they job done easy
[10:36] <kingplusplus> kblin, thats gr8
[10:36] <kingplusplus> kblin, it worked well for large systems do you have a link? where i can read about the setup? Anyways thanks the solution given helped and worked!
[10:38] <baotop> fgcx
[10:38] <kblin> kingplusplus: for systems with multiple users, you'll want to disable guest access and set up a user on the file server for every user accessing it
[10:38] <kblin> kingplusplus: the samba wiki is a good reference for this stuff, as is the smb.conf manpae
[10:38] <kblin> manpage
[10:39] <theadmin> Does Ubuntu still come with the "Screen sharing" tool built-in? What's the package name for that? I seem to have removed it.
[10:40] <Ubuntivity> Hello
[10:41] <kblin> anyway, time to organize some lunch for the family :)
[10:41] <starbuck> anybody got a pcmcia NIC with a static IP running? need some help setting static IP, within /etc/network/interfaces doesn't work
[10:42] <Ubuntivity> Guys, I need to rename a large number of files into their UNIX timestamp, how can that be done using bash?
[10:42] <theadmin> Never mind, is "vino" and is "Desktop Sharing" in the menus.
[10:44] <NewWorld> Ubuntivity:  go ask in #bash
[10:44] <Ubuntivity> Thanks NewWorld
[10:45] <theadmin> Ubuntivity: for i in * ; do mv $i $(ls -l --time-style="+%s" $i | awk '{print $6;}') ; done
[10:45] <theadmin> Ubuntivity: There you go.
[10:46] <Ubuntivity> Thanks a lot theadmin :)
[10:46] <farbod> help
[10:46] <farbod> me
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> Details needed.
[10:46] <bekks> !ask | farbod
[10:46] <theadmin> Ubuntivity: You may want to put quotes around $i if names contain spaces or other weird characters.
[10:46] <theadmin> Ubuntivity: Double-quotes, not single-quotes, by the way
[10:47] <Ubuntivity> theadmin: They do, so I will.
[10:47] <farbod> how can i control my camputer from my android?
[10:47] <theadmin> farbod: TeamViewer is the simpliest way.
[10:47] <theadmin> farbod: You can download the Android version from the Play Store and the Ubuntu version from teamviewer.com.
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> farbod:  i ssh to my machine with muy android devices mainly farbod .. about the easiest way  ;)
[10:48] <theadmin> farbod: OR, you can set up VNC/SSH access, read up on that
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> farbod:  it depends on what you need to do on the remote machine
[10:48] <farbod> i want to go web with my android machine!!!! lolllllllllllllllllllll
[10:49] <theadmin> wut
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> 'go web' - meaning what exactly
[10:50] <Ubuntivity> farbod: This is Ubuntu support channel. If you have Android issues you may check #android
[10:50] <theadmin> Ubuntivity: They want to access their Ubuntu box from Android. It's questionable whether this is an Android issue.
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> its questionable as what he really wants. ;)
[10:51] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: That too. "access" is too much of a wide word, lol. Can mean anything, from UPnP to full desktop control.
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> 'answer hazy - ask again later' - M. 8-ball
[10:52] <Ubuntivity> theadmin: he wants to go 'web'! whatever that means..
[10:52] <kblin> Dr_Willis: mine said "yes, definetely"
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> definatly ask again later. ;)
[10:53] <kblin> :)
[10:53] <theadmin> Ubuntivity: Well, first he said he wants to control his "camputer" from android
[10:55] <theadmin> eeh. Well, now he's silent. Looks like we aren't getting any details after all.
[10:55]  * Dr_Willis closes the ticket
[10:55] <discobiscuit> Hey, when viewing the output of some commands in bash, sometimes I have to scroll all the way up to view the start of the contents/output, but sometimes there is so much content/output, that when I scroll all the way up, the terminal wont let me "see" the rest of it, how do I go about viewing the rest of the output?
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> discobiscuit:  command | less
[10:55] <discobiscuit> I can only view like, the bottom half of all the output
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> discobiscuit:  or   command | more
[10:56] <discobiscuit> Syntax example?
[10:56] <discobiscuit> Please?
[10:56] <discobiscuit> :]
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> that is an example
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> pipe the output to 'more' or 'less'
[10:56] <discobiscuit> Oh okay. I will try it out.
[10:56] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: cat /dev/urandom | less
[10:56] <theadmin> Err
[10:56] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Sorry, mistab
[10:56] <theadmin> discobiscuit: ^
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> heh
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> discobiscuit  or command > somefile      example: sudo apt-get update > somefile
[10:57] <subz3r0> omg @theadmin
[10:57] <subz3r0> i prefer zeros...
[10:57] <theadmin> subz3r0: lol
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> man more, and man less  ;)  to leearn about them.. AND the man command uses more, or is it less? i forget..
[10:57] <discobiscuit> I tried outputting the file to a text file, but the textfile fails to open.
[10:57] <subz3r0> you can put the output to a text file too if you want
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> yes 'hello world' | less
[10:57] <subz3r0> echo bla > bla.txt
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> some commands print output to stderr not stdout - that can confuse things
[10:58] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: man uses less by default
[10:58] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: You can set $PAGER to change that
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> im so old - i rember when   the big debate was what was better.. 'more' or 'less' ;)
[10:59] <subz3r0> Dr_Willis: so echo bla 2> bla.txt? :D
[10:59] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Well uh, "less" obviously is better. How is this even an argument? more doesn't even let you scroll back up
[10:59] <poee> can I  add two Ip's to my /hosts file on the same line? like 127.0.0.1   1.2.3.4 1.2.3.3
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> I cant even rember the differances
[10:59] <Dr_Willis>  ;)
[10:59] <theadmin> poee: Nope
[11:00] <theadmin> poee: The syntax is "ip-address name alias alias alias alias ..."
[11:01] <poee> theadmin, I have a long list of ips i want to block, which are all in one single line. how can i do that
[11:01] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: The "more" manpage says "less" is better :D
[11:01] <theadmin> poee: Eh. What's the separator?
[11:02] <poee> theadmin, the seperator is ',' but i can change it to space
[11:02] <theadmin> poee: No need, let me write a script here.
[11:03] <discobiscuit> Does it matter if it's a .py script, vs a .sh script?
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> i seem to recall some ad/site blocker ages ago that used the hosts file. and could update from a master list..
[11:04] <discobiscuit> The more or less isn't working out
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> discobiscuit:  give us the eact command you are using.
[11:04] <farbod> how can i install teamwier 8
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> farbod:  get it from the teamviewer web site  perhaps? they should have linux directions.
[11:04] <poee> farbod, download the .deb file and open with gdebi package installer
[11:05] <poee> farbod, the .deb file should be directly on their website
[11:05] <discobiscuit> root@bt:/pentest/python/impacket-examples# ./samrdump.py 192.168.17.224
[11:05] <discobiscuit> That was the original line.
[11:06] <farbod> how can install it from terminal?
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> farbod:  download the .deb    gdebi whatever.deb
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> with a sudo of course. ;)
[11:07] <theadmin> poee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6170719/ - here you go, simply feed your list as the first argument to the script and it'll block all of them (using hosts)
[11:07] <farbod> i download it from teamwier web
[11:07] <farbod> but i cant install it
[11:08] <poee> theadmin, nice :D
[11:08] <poee> very simple
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> farbod:  and how are you trying to install it exactly?"
[11:08] <farbod> from gdebi installer
[11:08] <poee> farbod, are you sure you got the right architecture?
[11:08] <farbod> and ubuntu software
[11:08] <farbod> sure
[11:08] <poee> i think there is a 32 bit/64 bit version
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> farbod:  whats the exact command you are using? and are you on 64bit or 32bit?
[11:09] <farbod> im in 64 and i download the 64 bit
[11:09] <farbod> please help me to install it
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> farbod:  whats the exact command you are using?
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> and whats the error messages it gives
[11:10] <theadmin> farbod: wget http://download.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_linux_x64.deb -O tvl.deb && sudo dpkg -i tvl.deb && sudo apt-get -f install
[11:10] <theadmin> farbod: There.
[11:11] <tozen> `/quit
[11:11] <farbod> i download it
[11:11] <farbod> how can i install it?
[11:12] <theadmin> farbod: I just gave you a full command. Paste the entire string into a Terminal application.
[11:12] <farbod> wget http://download.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_linux_x64.deb -O tvl.deb && sudo dpkg -i tvl.deb && sudo apt-get -f install     ?
[11:12] <farbod> write this in terminal?
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> 0_o
[11:12] <farbod> :D
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> yes.....
[11:13] <theadmin> farbod: Yes
[11:13] <poee> farbod, you might have to enter your password too..
[11:13] <farbod> ok
[11:13] <farbod> thank you
[11:13] <farbod> its install it
[11:14] <farbod> 18 %
[11:14] <farbod> 23%
[11:14] <theadmin> farbod: You can usually just open .deb files with the Software Center, though
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> we dont really need a play by play..
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[11:15]  * Ubuntivity is very interesting to know how much exactly did the installation reach O_o
[11:15] <poee> theadmin, I ve had several issues in the past opening .deb files with the ubuntu software center, gdebi or qapt works best
[11:15] <theadmin> poee: Usually the opposite for me :D
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> i tend to use gdebi
[11:15] <farbod> i open it whit software center but it download 120 mg
[11:15] <theadmin> farbod: Yes, it has lots of dependencies :/
[11:15] <farbod> i use but its dont work
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> if it needs addational dependencies.. that makes perfect sence farbod ....
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> thats sort of the point of the software4 center
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> if it dosent have all the dependencies  installed = it wont work
[11:16] <farbod> 70 %
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> gdebi will pull in dependencies also. thats what the 'apt-get -f install' command does also. forces the dependencies to install
[11:16] <poee> Dr_Willis, teamviewer uses wine. it might be installing that
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> i think teamviewer came with its own special wine.
[11:17] <theadmin> poee: TeamViewer doesn't depend on WINE, it comes with a version built-in. BUT, it's a 32-bit application, and Wine depends on a ton of 32-bit libs.
[11:17] <farbod> are you sure DR?
[11:17] <farbod> it cant install
[11:17] <poee> so thats ia32libs?
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> farbod:  sure of what? If an app depends on a library to be install3ed.. and that lib is not installed.. the app wpnt work.
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> farbod:  again. whats the exact error me3ssages you got what commands did you use?
[11:18] <poee> theadmin, do I need to reboot everytime I change the /hosts file?
[11:18] <theadmin> poee: Eh no, the changes should be instant
[11:19] <farbod> in terminal write:dpkg statuse setabase locked
[11:19] <poee> theadmin, I am having to reboot. is there an update command
[11:19] <farbod> dpkg status database is locked by another process
[11:19] <farbod> help
[11:19] <poee> farbod, u are running another package manage
[11:19] <poee> manager*
[11:19] <poee> like ubuntu software center or gdebi, u need to close it
[11:20] <farbod> gdebi
[11:20] <farbod> it cant close
[11:20] <poee> yes , close gdebi
[11:20] <farbod> :D
[11:20] <poee> use xkill?
[11:20] <poee> although xkill manpages say its dangerous :/
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> gdebi is a cli command..   what where you doing with it? or you mean the gdebi-gtk gui front end?
[11:21] <farbod> i said it cancell
[11:21] <poee> ok i m off. thx all :)
[11:21] <farbod> but......
[11:22] <kassy> こんにちは
[11:23] <cfhowlett> !english|kassy,
[11:23] <theadmin> !jp | kassy
[11:23] <arturo> Hello people!  Is there a guide of how to install ubuntu *BY HAND*
[11:23] <arturo> I need to upgrade a 32bit installation to 64bit installation
[11:24] <theadmin> arturo: You can't really do that.
[11:24] <arturo> and I don't have spare disk space to make a backup
[11:24] <k1l> arturo: there is no upgrade. just a reinstall
[11:24] <arturo> theadmin: can't I just copy across and do what the installer does?
[11:24] <Myrtti> arturo: nope.
[11:24] <theadmin> arturo: Need a full reinstall. But, most of your user data is in /home anyway. Simply tell the installer to use the same / WITHOUT fomatting, it will remove everything except /home.
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> copy across what? You can copy the home stuff across ;) but thats about it..
[11:24] <arturo> Myrtti: theadmin: OMG! How come?  My Gentoo install I just book on a 10year old livecd, do my changes, copy across, and off I go!
[11:25] <cfhowlett> arturo, this ain't gentoo ..
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> clean out your system as much as you can, shrink its partions.. install to  the freed up space.
[11:25] <theadmin> arturo: Gentoo's nice that way, yeah...
[11:25] <arturo> theadmin: OK.... cfhowlett .... OK, .... the "don't delete anything" feels dangerous.
[11:25] <theadmin> arturo: Also, keep your /home on a separate partition.
[11:26] <theadmin> arturo: That way reinstalls are painless
[11:26] <arturo> I thought I prepare my GRUB, my /boot, copy base files, and listo
[11:26] <cfhowlett> arturo, /home in it's own partition is the place to be
[11:26] <arturo> theadmin: /home on a different partition is not an option... it's my sweetheart's lappy
[11:26] <Dr_Willis>  /boot/ on its own partion - is a bit.. well. unneeded by most people these days
[11:26] <arturo> and it's on the same partition right now
[11:26] <Myrtti> arturo: Ubuntu has precompiled binaries, which are often compiled to the OS version you've got, 32 or 64-bit. The amount files you'd need to replace is impossible with a live system, and near incomprehensible on non-live
[11:27] <Myrtti> arturo: why do you need to move to 64-bit?
[11:27] <arturo> Myrtti: no no no,... My plan was: create old_install directory on root
[11:27] <arturo> move EVERYTHING into irt
[11:27] <arturo> it
[11:27] <kassy>  /join #ubuntu-jp
[11:27] <arturo> prepare the filesystem by copying the new install
[11:27] <arturo> boot
[11:27] <arturo> and then move things across with patience
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> move what things?
[11:27] <theadmin> arturo: You can't "copy" the new install, this isn't how the Ubuntu installer works, it uses APT and chroot magic
[11:28] <arturo> Myrtti: cos the lappy has more memory now
[11:28] <Myrtti> arturo: and?
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> arturo:  with the pae kernel - it can use more then 4gb of ram
[11:28] <Myrtti> arturo: Ubuntu uses PAE kernels
[11:28] <theadmin> arturo: Use a PAE kernel?
[11:28] <theadmin> arturo: That's a better solution in your situation
[11:28] <arturo> theadmin: PAE kernel?
[11:28] <Myrtti> !pae
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> !pae
[11:28] <arturo> theadmin: Myrtti: ok, sounds good...
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> heh
[11:29] <hanner> hi, how do i disable stereo upmix on ubuntu?
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> pae is the default on.. what 12.10+ i cant recall
[11:29] <clergyman> Hi, I'm having problem getting X to work on my machine. I've got an nvidia card and I installed the driver fine, and it's worked for ages. But now when I booted up, I get "The system is running in low-level graphics mode"
[11:29] <theadmin> arturo: Yeah, in short it lets 32-bit operating systems access over 4GB of RAM, BUT no single app can use more than 4.
[11:29] <arturo> theadmin: Myrtti: reading ... ... ...
[11:29] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: 12.04 too afaik
[11:29] <clergyman> The strange thing is, if I reboot into rescue mode, and just run: startx, I get a lovely looking X.. but not when I try to boot into X straight away
[11:30] <arturo> theadmin: Myrtti: let me see if the lappy supports PAE
[11:30] <clergyman> And trying to do anything within the low-level graphics mode guide juts hangs. So "Exit out into console mode" or "start session in fail-safe mode"
[11:30] <theadmin> clergyman: Then the driver ain't working -- the rescue mode doesn't load extra drivers from what I know
[11:30] <theadmin> arturo: All 64-bit sytems do, I think
[11:30] <clergyman> theadmin: According to Xorg.0.log, it seems to all be dandy
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> clergyman:  try text mode. and 'sudo service lightdm start' or 'startx' from text mode - its  a more normal boot.
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> !text
[11:31] <clergyman> Dr_Willis: I'll give that a go, thanks!
[11:31] <clergyman> Dr_Willis: oh hang on, I have tried startx.. and that's fine
[11:32] <theadmin> clergyman: You tried it from recovery, not text mode, right? Different things a bit
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> startx works from text mode?
[11:32] <clergyman> Ah ok
[11:32] <clergyman> Dr_Willis: it works from rescue, I'll try text now
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> could be whatever 'triggers' the low gfx mode warning - is just confused.
[11:34] <clergyman> If I boot into text and run startx as a user, it says it's not allowed. If I run it as root, I get just an xterm in the upper left corner
[11:34] <clergyman> Though with the native good resolution
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> clergyman:  now try 'sudo service lightdm start'
[11:35] <arturo> Dr_Willis: theadmin: OK, I'll give it a go
[11:35] <clergyman> "Job failed to start"
[11:35] <arturo> Dr_Willis: theadmin: with PAE
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> arturo:  if you have a recently mondern version of ubuntu - it should allreayd be using PAE ;)
[11:35] <arturo> Dr_Willis: theadmin: though it should already be enabled ... ... ... odd.  Thanks for your help!
[11:36] <arturo> Dr_Willis: yup.  But the machine swaps a LOT, with a lot of memory already.  It's on 12.10
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> you  basically dont install 12.04+ 32bit without pae. ;) unless you follow some unofficial guides
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> uname -a    i think will mention pae.
[11:36]  * Dr_Willis is on his Pi - so cant verify.
[11:36] <MyWay> hello, I'm using a dual monitor configuration with my nvidia card, when I boot, sometimes it's working, but sometimes I get a wrong resolution, then I have to stop and restart mdm many times (i'm using gnome shell)
[11:36] <MyWay> any idea?
[11:36] <clergyman> Ok, I exited root's x session and ran service lightdm start from text mode, and I get low-graphics mode again
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> night all.. bbl
[11:37] <clergyman> But actually, even that looks fine graphics wise, my monitor says that it's in 1900 resolution
[11:37] <clergyman> nn Dr_Willis
[11:38] <clergyman> But switching back into text mode, it says in the backgroun "Start: Job failed to start"
[11:38] <clergyman> So this probably isn't a problem with my config, or even X.. just lightdm ?
[11:40] <clergyman> apt-get --reinstall install lightdm doesn't fix it
[11:41] <PatrickDickey> Dr_Willis: and arturo, I just did a uname -a on my computer, and it just says generic.
[11:41] <faugusztin> clergyman: how did you install your nvidia driver ? manually or via restricted drivers thing ?
[11:42] <clergyman> I did it ages ago, I don't recall. It's worked fine for ages
[11:42] <PatrickDickey> arturo: try this line in a terminal grep --color=always -i PAE /proc/cpuinfo it should highlight pae, if your processor supports it.
[11:42] <clergyman> But now I set GDM to be the default, and it works fine (but Unity doesn't actually load.. but that's another thing I guess)
[11:42] <clergyman> So it seems like it's lightdm that's not willing to play ball rather than a driver
[11:43] <PatrickDickey> !pae | arturo
[11:43] <clergyman> GDM doesn't let me choose which session I want for whatever reason
[11:44] <MyWay> when the browser starts a java applet, my second screen flashes black, then come back, any idea?
[11:44] <PatrickDickey> clergyman: Did you click on the little gears icon next to your name?
[11:45] <clergyman> PatrickDickey: I can't see any gears. There's a drop-down which lets me choose between "Ubuntu" and "System default"
[11:45] <clergyman> Both juts gets me into a background-only session
[11:45] <clergyman> So no menus or side-bars or anything. My desktop icons are there though
[11:47] <PatrickDickey> clergyman: If you were using an ATI card, I'd say that it wasn't supported. And that there are ways to make it work. But, I'm not sure with nVidia cards how that all works out. Sorry.
[11:48] <lantizia> Hey I've got Internet problems on Ubuntu... and it *is* Ubuntu at fault - somehow.  Accessing network resources is fine, other PC's accessing Internet is fine.  If I run a VPN I can access the Internet over that fine... no firewalls... routing table looks fine... just some things online are going incredibly slowly when they shouldn't be - any ideaS?
[11:48] <clergyman> PatrickDickey: I'm not sure it's related to the graphics
[11:49] <clergyman> Since GDM works (just not picking up Unity as an option.. But that's another deal altogether)
[11:51] <PatrickDickey> lantizia: What things are going slowly? And when you say that, is it a case of if you try it on computer A, it goes faster than if you try it on the Ubuntu computer?
[11:51] <clergyman> Ok, so if I run lightdm with logging, it says "Greeter closed communication channel" and then exits
[11:51] <clergyman> Getting closer I think :)
[11:52] <lantizia> PatrickDickey, some sites take much longer to load... some hosts take longer to ping... spotify won't login because of the slowness too :S
[11:52] <lantizia> but all that goes away if I vpn to somewhere else first
[11:52] <lantizia> routing table looks fine too - although it takes a while to come up
[11:57] <PatrickDickey>  lantizia You could try pinging one of the sites that is causing you problems. Then try traceroute to the same site, and see where it gets bogged down at (it could be somewhere between your modem and their modem). I'd say try it on both a computer that works *fine* and on your ubuntu one. That way you can compare them.
[11:57] <kassy> I want to have a frend around japan, do you know how to speak with them?
[11:58] <PatrickDickey> kassy: You're probably more interested in a site that deals with foreign languages--not ubuntu. A suggestion would be Rosetta Stone (software), if you want to learn their language.
[11:59] <kassy> merci beacoup
[12:00] <lantizia> PatrickDickey, well I ran run mtr on both my ubuntu desktop ... _and
[12:00] <lantizia> _and_ on my router as it's debian based
[12:00] <lantizia> oddly... if I use it... i see they take different routes!
[12:01] <lantizia> and mtr takes a few seconds to even display when i run it on my ubuntu box
[12:01] <PatrickDickey> lantizia: Do you have another computer on your network that you can try? That way you can make sure it's not something between your computer and the router.
[12:02] <lantizia> PatrickDickey, yes and the other pc gives the same results as the router
[12:02] <lantizia> so it's something specific to my own pc
[12:04] <lantizia> it's like my own pc is sending something additional in outbound connections that my router itself and the other pc isn't - that's causing a different route out
[12:04] <lantizia> perhaps ipv6 stuff?
[12:04] <lantizia> don't have that configured though
[12:07] <g105b> Hi I'm trying to diagnose a major problem that has started on my <1 year old laptop. Worked fine until a week or two ago, now doing anything regarding file transfers or downloads freezes the application (goes dark) and sometimes the whole computer for up to 1 minute. Where do I start looking?
[12:10] <lantizia> PatrickDickey, i don't know if this helps - but it's more like a pause
[12:11] <lantizia> like every new connection results in a long pause before anything happens... a new web site (rather than re-use a google search tab for example) or a new mtr trace, etc...
[12:11] <lantizia> once established speeds are fine
[12:11] <varunendra> lantizia, if you download something, does the speed remain okay?
[12:11] <lantizia> bollocks I know why
[12:11] <lantizia> that damned vpn client wrote entries in to resolv.conf
[12:12] <lantizia> fixed now :) thanks for the thoughts though
[12:16] <PatrickDickey> lantizia: Glad you got it fixed.
[12:16] <clergyman> Ok, so no Unity for me I guess.. lightdm refuses to work. But GDM works, and I've installed Cinnamon and can get into that via GDM
[12:16] <clergyman> But not unity
[12:16] <gordonjcp> clergyman: why doesn't lightdm work?
[12:16] <gordonjcp> clergyman: have you got some very odd or very old hardware?
[12:17] <clergyman> gordonjcp: No idea, it just shows me the fall-back stuff
[12:17] <clergyman> It's a fairly standard one, nvidia geforce gtx 660 (iirc)
[12:17] <clergyman> Everything works flawlessly in cinnamon, so I don't think there's much of a hardware problem
[12:17] <num7> How can i set lxde as default desktop on ubuntu?, if i boot i got black screen cause it automaticllay log in with a openbox session. (sorry for my bad english)
[12:18] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> *other timezone*
[12:18] <reisio> num7: do you get a login window?
[12:20] <bwayne> clergyman: are you wanting to use lightdm?
[12:21] <clergyman> bwayne: I'm indifferent as to what DM I use, I'm fine with GDM. But unity does not appear to be an option in the drop-down
[12:21] <afsal> how to embed gnome js code in https://developer.gnome.org/gnome-devel-demos/3.6/helloWorld.js.html.en into a html file for display inside browser
[12:21] <faugusztin> num7: /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf, comment out autologin-user, restart lightdm, choose your desktop enviroment before logging in
[12:22] <bwayne> clergyman: try re-enabling. sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[12:22] <clergyman> bwayne: the options I get are "Cinnamon, cinnamon, System Default and Ubuntu"
[12:22] <deepblue> i can't connect 2 spotchat
[12:22] <clergyman> If I use Ubuntu (which I assume is code for Unity), I see my desktop, but not the icons on the left, or menu bar at the top
[12:22] <clergyman> bwayne: I did that, and --reinstall it, no dice
[12:23] <clergyman> And if I ctrl+alt+del out of the empty desktop, X appears to crash
[12:23] <bekks> Why do you press that?
[12:24] <clergyman> Because it brings up the "Do you want to log out" dialog
[12:24] <clergyman> Since I don't have a menu bar at the top, I can't log out any other way
[12:25] <bwayne> clergyman: hmm ... did you try dropping to a tty, stopping gdm, and then starting lightdm?
[12:27] <clergyman> bwayne: yeah, it just says Start: Job failed or something like that when I do service lightdm start
[12:27] <mao121> hi everyone , i  want ask a question ,  i use the ubuntu 13.04,but  it can change the  brightness  by its  self  ,  did  anyone know  how  to  solve   it ???
[12:27] <num7> Thank you faugusztin worked very well.
[12:29] <Zigara> Janeks991: why are you connected 5 times?
[12:29] <Zigara> lol
[12:30] <TuxFalk699> hi guys
[12:30] <PatrickDickey> mao121: You can try the solutions provided here http://askubuntu.com/questions/312603/how-to-stop-automatic-brightness-change-while-on-battery
[12:31] <bwayne> clergyman: i guess I'm at a loss. i'm searching around the interweb. looks like your not alone in this sort of trouble. do you happen to have an nvidia card?
[12:31] <afsal> how to embed gnome js code in https://developer.gnome.org/gnome-devel-demos/3.6/helloWorld.js.html.en into a html file for display inside browser
[12:31] <PatrickDickey> bwayne: yes he does.
[12:33]  * PatrickDickey is in the middle of the world's longest installation, it seems..... Reinstalling Fedora 19 for my Amahi Home Server..
[12:33] <bwayne> clergyman: hmm ... have you looked at your X log file for errors? It may help point us in the right direction. 'grep EE Xorg.0.log'
[12:34] <Rexter> Hi, Please tell me how I can disable the mouse wheel controlled desktop switching.
[12:34] <Rexter> I'm having problems with the desktop switching unexpectly when using the touch pad
[12:35] <TuxFalk699> hello to everybody
[12:35] <clergyman> egrep "EE|WW" /var/log/Xorg*  only shows stuff related to font paths and mode probe method for VESA. But they were present when things were working fine too
[12:35] <Rexter> Hi TuxFalk669
[12:35] <kevin95> Earn $ 15 per affiliate and $ 2 for each person entering your link http://Fun4Days.Com/?share=138802
[12:35] <clergyman> That's the weird thing, this system has been working flawlessly since May or so
[12:35] <kevin95> Earn $ 15 per affiliate and $ 2 for each person entering your link http://Fun4Days.Com/?share=138802
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[12:35] <FloodBot1> kevin95: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:36] <mao121> PatrickDickey, ok i see thank you
[12:37] <fxxk_my_l1f3> Kevin95 hahaha
[12:39] <abdel> hello please I want to install a child theme on my ubuntu can somebody give me the step by step on how do it,
[12:39] <abdel> to access my localhost
[12:39] <Rexter> Fxxk-my_l1f3; do you know what those modes mean?
[12:40] <abdel> helloooooooooooooooooooo
[12:41] <Rexter> hello abdel
[12:41] <abdel> hello please I want to install a child theme on my ubuntu can somebody give me the step by step on how do it,
[12:41] <bekks> !patience | abdel
[12:41] <abdel> how do i access my local host
[12:41] <Rexter> you mean, you want want to add a user?
[12:41] <abdel> okay thanks
[12:41] <abdel> yes
[12:42] <Rexter> I'm not sure I understand, theme?
[12:42] <abdel> ok am a website developer
[12:42] <blowsoso1t> engrish
[12:42] <abdel> so i use wordpress but i need to create a website theme
[12:42] <Rexter> I still don't know what you are trying to do.
[12:42] <abdel> child theme on my localhost
[12:43] <bekks> abdel: a website them is totally unrelated to ubuntu.
[12:43] <abdel> ok thanks for your time rexter
[12:43] <blowsoso1t>  /facepalm
[12:43] <bekks> abdel: If you want to access localhost in your browser, enter: http://localhost/ in your browser
[12:44] <bwayne> clergyman: what's the exact error that you get, after you've dropped to a tty, stopped gdm, and then tried to start lightdm?
[12:45] <Rexter> I'm having trouble with the desktop switching unexpectedly while using the touch pad. It's because of the scroll to switch function. I'm looking for a way to disable it.
[12:46] <deepblue> i can't connect spotchat in Xchat
[12:46] <clergyman> bwayne: ok, so what happens is I get into X, with the right resolution, and there's a dialog saying "The system is running in low-graphics mode"
[12:47] <clergyman> If I go back out into the terminal where I started lightdm from, it says:   start: Job failed to start
[12:47] <Rexter> I don't want to disable multiple desktops, and I don't want to disable scroll on the touch pad. I just want to disable scroll to switch.
[12:47] <faugusztin> Rexter: what desktop enviroment ?
[12:47] <Rexter> faugusztin; I didn
[12:48] <Rexter> oops
[12:48] <faugusztin> Rexter: Unity  ? Gnome ? KDE ?
[12:48] <Rexter> lxde
[12:48] <clergyman> bwayne: in /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log, it says after quite a few lines indicating some kind of success that the greeter failed
[12:48] <faugusztin> Rexter: http://askubuntu.com/questions/49139/disable-desktop-switching-with-the-scroll-wheel-in-lubuntu
[12:48] <bekks> clergyman: Pastebin that file please.
[12:49] <bwayne> clergyman: have you tried purging and reinstalling lightdm?
[12:49] <ice9> how to remove manually installed kernel?
[12:49] <clergyman> And in /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log it says: Error writing X authority: Failed to write X authority /var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority
[12:49] <clergyman> bwayne: yeah
[12:49] <bekks> ice9: how did you install them?
[12:49] <clergyman> That file exists, owned by ligthdm.lightdm permissions 600
[12:49] <ice9> bekks, compiled from source, make modules_install install
[12:49] <clergyman> Directory is also owned by lightdm, permission 750
[12:50] <reisio> rm, or you could potentially use checkinstall
[12:50] <skorasaurus> !x
[12:50] <bekks> ice9: Then you have manually remove it. Using rm, and being very carefully.
[12:50] <Rexter> faugustin; thank you. I found that but the lubuntu-rc.xml format has changed in 12.04. I don't know how to apply the info, besides the config files says not to edit.
[12:51] <reisio> Rexter: I wouldn't be surprised if it's backward compatible
[12:51] <bl4ckdu5t> When I'm in a directory and I use nautilus, it opens my /home/account folder. How can I make it open the folder which I am currently on the terminal
[12:51] <ice9> bekks, how can i differentiate between the newly installed modules and the old ones?
[12:51] <reisio> bl4ckdu5t: nautilus .
[12:52] <bekks> ice9: You cant. Besides checking the date/time on some hundred files.
[12:52] <bekks> ice9: And thats not reliable.
[12:52] <Rexter> reisio; the info that it says to remove doesn't exist.
[12:52] <bl4ckdu5t> reisio: I know nautilus will open a folder but that's always the home folder
[12:52] <bl4ckdu5t> Can't it be something else?
[12:52] <clergyman> bwayne: I tried moving /var/lib/lightdm out of the way, hoping it'd recreate it nicely.. But I stlil get low-graphics mode
[12:53] <bekks> ice9: So you basically modified an existing kernel, and you didnt manually install a new one?
[12:53] <ice9> bekks, no I installed another kernel version
[12:53] <bekks> ice9: Then delete the manually installed kernel version, after rebooting into your old kernel.
[12:53] <bekks> ice9: And use checkinstall next time.
[12:54] <ice9> bekks, this will delete the kernel image in /boot only but not the modules
[12:54] <bekks> ice9: Then manually delete the modules...
[12:55] <faugusztin> Rexter: http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=112134.0 same thing, different file
[12:55] <Rexter> faugusztin, reisio; it also includes this at the top: "<!-- Do not edit this file, it will be overwritten on install. Copy the file to $HOME/.config/openbox/ instead. -->"
[12:55] <reisio> bl4ckdu5t: if you're in a terminal, merely specifying the path 'nautilus foo' should work
[12:56] <faugusztin> Rexter: but you are opening it in your home, no ?
[12:56] <bwayne> clergyman: well, I'm at a loss regarding lightdm. perhaps this guy's article will help with getting unity working well with gdm. --> http://www.tuxgarage.com/2011/04/missing-top-and-side-panels-in-unity.html
[12:56] <faugusztin> Rexter: that file you are looking at is in /home/rexter/.config/openbox, no ?
[12:56] <bl4ckdu5t> reisio: ok thanks!
[12:57] <michagogo> How would I go about causing the commands "sudo brctl addbr br0" and "sudo ifconfig br0 10.0.2.2/24 up" to either execute on boot, or simply not need to be reexecuted?
[12:58] <bekks> michagogo: What are you trying, actually?
[12:59] <faugusztin> michagogo: that should be inside networking configuration when setting up bridge, but if you need it that way just put it in /etc/rc.local
[12:59] <michagogo> Hmm?
[12:59] <faugusztin> michagogo: but that is not how you should do it :)
[12:59] <michagogo> So what should I do?
[12:59] <faugusztin> michagogo: this is how you should do it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[12:59] <bekks> michagogo: What are you actually trying?
[12:59] <michagogo> Basically, I'm using https://github.com/devrandom/gitian-builder
[12:59] <michagogo> (using LXC)
[13:00] <michagogo> It requires that that bridge exist.
[13:00] <michagogo> Those 2 commands in sequence make it work, it's just annoying to have to rerun them each time I want to use it after rebooting.
[13:00] <manjaro_> hi
[13:01] <faugusztin> michagogo: as i said, you can put that in /etc/rc.local, it will run on boot, but that is not the recommended way to set up bridges, that is all
[13:01] <michagogo> I don't need it as a general purpose bridge
[13:01] <michagogo> Anyway, what about sudo asking for my password?
[13:01] <bekks> michagogo: Enter it.
[13:02] <Entrance> hi ..
[13:02] <michagogo> How will it ask if it's non-interactive, though?
[13:02] <michagogo> or will it open a terminal on boot?
[13:02] <faugusztin> michagogo: /etc/rc.local runs as root
[13:02] <michagogo> Ah, okay
[13:02] <michagogo> that works too :-)
[13:02] <clergyman> bwayne: I need to shoot off now, thanks for the pointers and the help!
[13:02] <clergyman> thanks everyone else who has pitched in as wlel
[13:02] <michagogo> I assume I need to sudo the editor, then?
[13:03] <Rexter> faugusztin; yes ~/.config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml
[13:03] <faugusztin> michagogo: like for nearly anything in /etc, yes, you need to sudo to edit :)
[13:03] <kerloi> Hi again. I'm still trying to fix my problems ... I still have a problem with grub: at boot time I don't have any menu. If I indicate the configfile which is correctly located at (hd0,4)/boot/grub/grub.cfg the system boot. So my question is how could grub not be able to find this file while it is located at the default location and grub can run it if I indicate it ...
[13:03] <michagogo> "# This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel."
[13:03] <michagogo> hmm?
[13:03] <karthik> Hey all
[13:03] <bekks> !patience | kerloi
[13:04] <faugusztin> michagogo: which is what you want, no ? it is executed at 3 (console start) and 5 (x start)
[13:04] <michagogo> I don't know what "at the end of each multiuser runlevel" means
[13:04] <faugusztin> michagogo: multiuser = not singleuser
[13:04] <michagogo> I know that much
[13:04] <michagogo> but what's a multiuser runlevel?
[13:04] <kerloi> bekks, yup but it is not the same channel ?
[13:05] <michagogo> And, don't I only want that to run once?
[13:05] <faugusztin> in short, when system boots it executed init 3 (console) or init 5 (graphics startup)
[13:05] <faugusztin> michagogo: it will run only once in a normal startup scenario
[13:05] <Rexter> faugusztin; maybe it's ok to still edit this file, but the information that is instructed to remove doesn't exist in this file.
[13:05] <bekks> kerloi: Then dont crosspost. Thats unfriendly.
[13:05] <michagogo> faugusztin: Ah, okay
[13:05] <michagogo> Thanks for the help!
[13:05] <kerloi> bekks, ok sry
[13:05] <faugusztin> Rexter: that instruction is for the original of that file, somewhere in /usr/share. the file in your home folder is the copy, which copied the notice in file too
[13:06] <faugusztin> Rexter: then search other files in that ~/.config/openbox folder for that content
[13:06] <bwayne> kerloi: what have you tried so far to solve your problem with grub?
[13:07] <antithesis> Upon installation I chose to automatically log in, but now I made a new user and I want to automatically log in to that user instead. How do I change it?
[13:07] <Rexter> faugustzin; no other files in that folder other than the backup i made.
[13:08] <faugusztin> michagogo: one more thing, if it won't execute rc.local then maybe you will need to do update-rc.d rc.local defaults, but i don't think you will have to do that
[13:08] <michagogo> faugusztin: Will running that hurt if it's not needed?
[13:08] <hanner> hi, is anyone available for help regarding sound issues?
[13:09] <faugusztin> michagogo: don't think it hurts :)
[13:09] <michagogo> In other words: any reason not to do that?
[13:09] <michagogo> Okay
[13:09] <michagogo> May as well, then.
[13:09] <anon12> How do I burn an audio cd for playing in a car radio? Brasero and the standard disk burner software burns it as a cdfs. Some forum posts recommended using Serpentine but, it is no longer in the software center.
[13:09] <faugusztin> michagogo: it just sets up the runlevels for that "service"
[13:09] <antithesis> How do I change which user gets logged in automatically?
[13:09] <michagogo> update-rc.d: warning: rc.local stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (none)
[13:09] <michagogo>  System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/rc.local already exist.
[13:09] <michagogo> unable to write to /var/lib/update-rc.d/rc.local.new at /usr/sbin/update-rc.d line 59.
[13:09] <hanner> anon12: try k3b
[13:09] <reisio> antithesis: it used to be called 'gdm-setup'
[13:09] <reisio> antithesis: it might be 'gdmsetup3' now
[13:09] <michagogo> faugusztin: ^
[13:10] <faugusztin> michagogo: then leave it it as is :)
[13:10] <michagogo> okay.
[13:10] <faugusztin> michagogo: says start stop links exists
[13:10] <michagogo> Oh, that's just saying that what needed to be there for it to run is already there?
[13:10] <michagogo> Cool.
[13:10] <bwayne> antithesis: sudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults --autologin username
[13:10] <reisio> oh right, lightdm
[13:11] <antithesis> kthx
[13:11] <anon12> hanner, What options should k3b have when burning?
[13:11] <bwayne> oh reisio was helping. sry, reisio, didn't mean to step on anyone's toes.
[13:11] <reisio> anon12: it should know what to use, but if you have a speed option, set it to something low like 4x
[13:12] <reisio> bwayne: no no, I wasn't paying attention anyways :p
[13:12] <Rexter> faugusztin; would it be: http://pastebin.com/MSPgJyfb
[13:13] <bwayne> reisio: ah ok. :)  just didn't want to give the wrong impression. usually if someone else is helping I lay low.
[13:13] <reisio> anon12: alternatively from a terminal, you can use thisi (on .wav's): cdrecord speed=4 dev=/dev/sr0 -audio -paid *.wav
[13:13] <reisio> bwayne: close call :p
[13:14] <reisio> -paid?
[13:14] <reisio> I have no idea how that happened...
[13:14] <faugusztin> Rexter: indeed that looks like it
[13:14] <reisio> cdrecord speed=4 dev=/dev/sr0 -audio -pad *.wav
[13:14] <Guest78729> where is this?
[13:14] <anon12> thaks reisio
[13:15] <Rexter> Faugusztin; Here's the entire file:
[13:15] <Rexter> http://pastebin.com/usBhzFaY
[13:16] <B_bimo> sorry , i'm a learner
[13:16] <anon12> reisio, when I type in cdrecord it acts like wodim is the program it is running
[13:16] <reisio> anon12: 'cause it is
[13:16] <anon12> ok
[13:16] <reisio> :)
[13:16] <jozefk> fdisk -l shows 3 partitions on /dev/sda and it says it's GPT. gParted see nothing at all. how can I install linux on that partition? /dev/sda1 is ntfs (windows 8); /dev/sda2 is swap; /dev/sda3 is ext4. this is how the installer looks like: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=141s6jn&s=5#.Ukgl_6Az8fA
[13:16] <rogan_> hi all
[13:16] <reisio> cdrecord was replaced, but the executable remains
[13:16] <anon12> Is it a link to wodim now?
[13:16] <reisio> rogan_: hi
[13:16] <jozefk> installer can't see the ext4 and swap
[13:17] <reisio> anon12: most likely
[13:17] <reisio> anon12: file `which cdrecord`
[13:17] <rogan_> where do I have to go for audio card conflicts
[13:17] <rogan_> ?
[13:17] <reisio> rogan_: what makes you think you have an 'audio card conflict'?
[13:18] <rogan_> I have three times the same card plugged on a usb hub
[13:19] <rogan_> and all sounds seems to come one card
[13:19] <fzerorugibd> hi
[13:19] <rogan_> from
[13:19] <rogan_> I come bach soon
[13:21] <faugusztin> Rexter:  in <context name="Desktop"> the <mousebind button="Up" action="Click"> and  <mousebind button="Down" action="Click"> are the parts you want to get rid of
[13:22] <Rexter> faugusztin; I'm confused by all this, because I don't understand the syntax of this file. http://pastebin.com/ihDQ66Ev
[13:24] <anon12> reisio, What is the -paid flag meant to do in wodim?
[13:24] <anon12> cdrecord speed=4 dev=/dev/sr0 -audio -paid *.wav
[13:25] <reisio> it's supposed to be -pad
[13:25] <reisio> I don't know how that happened
[13:25] <anon12> ok
[13:25] <reisio> must've been a stray keystroke :p
[13:26] <bwayne> jozefk: which installer is that you're using?
[13:26] <Danny67892> ?
[13:26] <anon12> reisio, I started burning the cd and will post again after testing it
[13:26] <andreiiar> Hello. How do I hack?
[13:26] <jozefk> bwayne, peppermint four 64bit
[13:26] <Danny67892> my sister is so annoying
[13:26] <Danny67892> peppermint
[13:26] <bwayne> andreiiar: learn to program the hard way
[13:26] <andrewvos> This is bad right? https://gist.github.com/AndrewVos/6752514
[13:26] <Danny67892> I have ubunty 13.04
[13:27] <andrewvos> Surely those should be owned by my user?
[13:27] <Danny67892> ubuntu*
[13:27] <andrewvos> Ergh I forgot the command there
[13:27] <reisio> Danny67892: agreed
[13:27] <bwayne> jozefk: don't trust that installer.
[13:27] <andrewvos> sudo find ~ -uid 0 | vim - #=> https://gist.github.com/AndrewVos/6752514
[13:27] <andrewvos> That's bad right?
[13:27] <Danny67892> wuuu1?
[13:27] <Danny67892> get it from the website
[13:27] <jozefk> bwayne, what do you suggest?
[13:27] <bwayne> jozefk: one moment.
[13:27] <Danny67892> usb or blanks idsk
[13:28] <Danny67892> disk
[13:28] <skorasaurus> andrewvos: who are they owned by
[13:28] <andrewvos> skorasaurus: root
[13:28] <andreiiar> What is the hard way?
[13:29] <Danny67892> usb or blank disk!!!!
[13:29] <skorasaurus> andrewvos: does your user have read/write permissions ?
[13:29] <skorasaurus> you should at least for that.
[13:29] <skorasaurus> mine does, if it's any help ;)
[13:29] <andrewvos> skorasaurus: Nope, which is why I needed sudo to find inside that directory :/
[13:30] <skorasaurus> ah, yeah, you probably should change that.
[13:30] <Myrtti> andrewvos: have you ran gui apps with sudo or gksudo?
[13:30] <skorasaurus> although it's not difficult.
[13:30] <saiarcot895> Danny67892: could you post your complete question in one line instead of multiple lines?
[13:30] <reisio> andreiiar: trial & error
[13:30] <andreiiar> I see. Thx! And how do I flood?
[13:30] <andrewvos> Myrtti: I might have at one point. I was trying to install a gnome-termial theme with some setup-theme script and it failed (cause I'm using zsh) and I thought the failuer was a permissions thing.
[13:31] <skorasaurus> andrewvos: you could do
[13:31] <skorasaurus> chown -R yourusername:yourusername .gconf
[13:31] <skorasaurus> with sudo at the beginning of that.
[13:31] <saiarcot895> !flood | andreiiar
[13:32] <andrewvos> skorasaurus: So that whole directory should definitely be under my ownership?
[13:32] <skorasaurus> I'm not 100% sure, but andrewvos, I believe yes.
[13:32] <Myrtti> andrewvos: well, it might full well be that you've used sudo and the files have gotten the wrong permissions from that, so in the future to prevent it from happening use gksu/gksudo if you must
[13:32] <andrewvos> Ok thanks Myrtti. Didn't know about gk*
[13:33] <bwayne> jozefk: i'm not sure. the peppermint linux website isn't very verbose. in any case, do not trust that installer if you know there are partitions on sda yet it isn't showing any.
[13:34] <jozefk> yeah I don't need to trust the installer but I need to install linux there
[13:35] <delinquentme> locate postgis.sql | head -n 1  && psql -f /usr/local/share/postgis/postgis.sql template_postgis
[13:35] <bwayne> jozefk: just use ubuntu.
[13:35] <delinquentme> SO the output of the first portion gets me the FILEPATH for the file i want
[13:35] <jozefk> bwayne, you think ubuntu would work? I tried fedora and it didn't work either
[13:36] <andrewvos> skorasaurus, Myrtti thanks that's better I think. I would guess everything under ~ would be owned by me, normally.
[13:36] <bwayne> jozefk: same issue? partitions don't show up?
[13:36] <reisio> jozefk: you're already using ubuntu
[13:36] <jozefk> well anaconda saw the partitions but it gave me the message that they are full
[13:37] <bekks> jozefk: So they are full.
[13:37] <jozefk> even though I marked them for formatting
[13:37] <jozefk> they are empty
[13:38] <jozefk> I created them with gparted in fedora 19 live
[13:39] <jozefk> and peppermint can't see them at all. so now my problem is not if the partitions are full or not but they are non existent
[13:39] <bekks> jozefk: Whats "peppermint"?
[13:39] <jozefk> ubuntu based distro
[13:39] <bekks> jozefk: So no Ubuntu then?
[13:40] <jozefk> it's ubuntu based
[13:40] <bekks> jozefk: Its no Ubuntu.
[13:40] <jozefk> ok
[13:41] <andrewvos> SWEET BURN
[13:41] <bwayne> bekks: it's "web centric"
[13:41] <bekks> bwayne: sounds lke a buzz word.
[13:42] <bwayne> bekks: yeah. go read their site. you'll roll your eyes right out of your head.
[13:42] <reisio> andrewas: now go get a usb adapter
[13:42] <bekks> bwayne: Sounds like its totally offtopic in here.
[13:43] <bwayne> bekks: it's totally offtopic. who knows what tools they're using to install. and i don't care to look into it.
[13:43] <bekks> bwayne: Me neither. Tell it to jozefk, who uses peppermint.
[13:44] <jozefk> I am trying to use it :)
[13:44] <bwayne> jozefk: this is for ubuntu support. unsupported derivatives are .... unsupported.
[13:44] <bekks> jozefk: Then please stick to their support.
[13:46] <jozefk> their support on irc is zero. will rather ask in fedora channel. thanks anyway
[13:46]  * bwayne shakes his head.
[13:47] <Myrtti> jozefk: you're going to get the same answer from them as well, "use their own channel" or even better, use a distro that has a channel that actually has people helping you.
[13:48] <jozefk> yeah before peppermint I tried with fedora first. it didn't work but I didn't ask for support on their irc, by that time.
[13:49] <B_bimo> [user_] Ping timeout: 240 seconds    what does it mean
[13:50] <jozefk> B_bimo, most probably mean the person hit the X button :)
[13:50] <Myrtti> B_bimo: that their client didn't answer when the server asked it if it was still there
[13:50] <iAdam1n> Why do I get "autogen.sh aclocal not found"? I just booted from a DVD as I use a MBP
[13:51] <B_bimo>  thank you
[13:51] <linuxearth> please let me know if there is any controversy with unity..? because i am going to download the lts 12.04 and afraid if won't work or work...?
[13:52] <B_bimo> can it  use ipv6 to chat?
[13:52] <reisio> linuxearth: no particular controversy
[13:52] <linuxearth> oh
[13:52] <linuxearth> non-particular?
[13:52] <reisio> linuxearth: Unity runs on top of GNOME 3, and GNOME 3 featured a lot of drastic changes from GNOME 2, which many long time GNOME 2 users did not enjoy
[13:52] <reisio> linuxearth: as a new user, you will suffer no such bias
[13:53] <linuxearth> reisio: okay thanks for this info. and i can learn from ubuntu. yesterday also i was confused in kubuntu and ubuntu but finally decided to go with lts
[13:53] <Myrtti> B_bimo: huh?
[13:54] <iAdam1n> I'm trying to compile opensn0w btw
[13:54] <reisio> linuxearth: kubuntu is just ubunutu that comes with KDE presintalled (you could also install it afterwards)
[13:54] <irfanlho> hello
[13:54] <linuxearth> okay reisio thanks
[13:54] <reisio> linuxearth: lts is only really useful if your put off updating for much much longer than you should :)
[13:54] <sinclairos> а
[13:54] <reisio> but if you're really really "learning", that might be a possibility :p
[13:54] <linuxearth> really usefull?
[13:54] <linuxearth> then?
[13:54] <linuxearth> !
[13:55] <linuxearth> but i would update it
[13:55] <anon12> reisio, the cdrecord command worked
[13:55] <reisio> anon12: :)
[13:55] <linuxearth> reisio: i should update the distro, right?
[13:55] <reisio> linuxearth: yes
[13:55] <linuxearth> ok
[13:56] <reisio> linuxearth: if you can at all :)
[13:56] <linuxearth> yeah, ;)-
[13:56] <reisio> and since updates are still gratis, there's little reason not to
[13:56] <joe_b> Anyone know of a way to set up fitbit syncing on an ubuntu box?
[13:56] <Myrtti> joe_b: hold on, I've seen something on it...
[13:56] <linuxearth> reisio: please don't mind but i want to know your opinion about opensuse when compared with ubuntu
[13:57] <joe_b> I tried libfitbit, which is both in a ppa and on github, and there seems to be a blocking bug.
[13:57] <root> boot
[13:57] <joe_b> namely: 'module' object has no attribute 'core'
[13:57] <Guest34126> whats up
[13:58] <Myrtti> joe_b: oh, ok, then you know more than I do
[13:58] <linuxearth> reisio: please don't mind but i want to know your opinion about ubuntu when compared with opensuse or vice versa, just for information
[13:58] <Myrtti> Guest34126: "the sky"
[13:59] <reisio> linuxearth: I would advise avoiding openSUSE, for two reasons
[13:59] <joe_b> Myrtti, no worries thanks for looking.  I'm trying to avoid diving into the python code, but it looks like people lost interest a year ago or so.  There's some talk of getting fitbit to help support a client with canonical which would be nice.
[13:59] <reisio> linuxearth: 1) it is the unpaid beta tester version of SUSE, which is a very costly server distro
[13:59] <reisio> linuxearth: 2) it uses RPMs instead of .deb's for packages
[14:00] <linuxearth> the 2). i don;t understand but okay if you say, i won't go for it
[14:00] <linuxearth> reisio: because i don't know about what you meant in the 2) point
[14:00] <reisio> linuxearth: modern software has somewhat alleviated it, but, if you're curious: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22rpm%20hell%22
[14:00] <linuxearth> okay thanks reisio
[14:01] <linuxearth> i have to go for some work, i just start the lts torrent download, thanks
[14:01] <reisio> linuxearth: mostly it's just that rpm is the package format of choice for distributions that target people who are addicted to paying for things :p
[14:01] <linuxearth> oh i see
[14:01] <reisio> linuxearth: where are you based, geographically?
[14:01] <reisio> nowhere :p
[14:02] <Raven> reisio - Ahhh an Oklahoma resident?!
[14:02] <reisio> not I :)
[14:02] <reisio> is that a nowhere joke? :)
[14:03] <Raven> Yes :), There is a place called Nowhere in Oaklahoma
[14:03]  * PatrickDickey always thought .exe was designed for people who are addicted to paying for things...
[14:03]  * reisio rolls eyes :p
[14:04] <Raven> Heh sorry, couldnt help it. How are my awesome Ubuntu user's today?!
[14:04] <Raven> Wait, i cannot say you are MY users, as that would make me more like Microsoft
[14:05] <reisio> you could if we paid you
[14:08] <andreiiar> is ubuntu apt-get or yum?
[14:08] <Raven> Apt-get
[14:08] <andreiiar> ok maybe i can ask here what i need
[14:09] <andreiiar> So. I have installed kali on my raspberry pi. Couple of things. I don't remember if it starts with gui or not. I marly use it to connect from my lan. How can I check if it has gui running or not? And how do I uninstall the files for X server? I noticed that my drive is filling up as I do updates. I cleand them up with apt-get <some-argument-i-dont-remember> but it is still 90% full. And I
[14:09] <andreiiar> remeber that the distribution was only around 2 gigs. What happend? How can I fix it?
[14:09] <Myrtti> andreiiar: so, this isn't kali channel
[14:09] <DJones>  !kali | andreiiar
[14:12] <ARW0> heyo
[14:12] <michagogo> !Mint
[14:15] <GreatBacon> Mornin
[14:16] <beefman> is it possible to have two window managers running at once?  my situation: a game i like runs fullscreen but doesn't work w/ alt+tab, and i need that.  but alt+ctl+fn keys works, so if i could get a lightweight one running alongside the standard one when i want to play games, i start the game there with alt+ctl+f9, then switch back to my main one when i needed to
[14:17] <GreatBacon> Any unresolved ubuntu server issues I can help with?
[14:19] <Dragooon> Anybody has any idea about iptables port forwarding/masquerading?
[14:20] <deepblue> i can't connect to spotchat in Xchat,what should i do?
[14:22] <zykotick9> beefman: try "startx -- :1" to start a 2nd Xorg session, BUT you should probably avoid running 2 gnome/unity sessions at the same time.  you should probably installs something else, and configure it in .xinitrc
[14:23] <tanjay> Hi
[14:23] <beefman> zybotick9: ty much, i will.  if i use just 'startx' will it come up with the ugly blank screen w/ term & click menus or with my current default wm?
[14:23] <tanjay> this is the 1st time that I am here
[14:23] <zykotick9> beefman: to be honest, i'm not sure what will come up?
[14:23] <zykotick9> !tab > beefman
[14:24] <beefman> zykotick9: whoops, sorry.  i knew command line but never used it in irc
[14:26] <Danny67892> how many users are there?
[14:27] <Danny67892> on the channel
[14:27] <beefman> 1730
[14:27] <Vivekananda> Hello everyone, My ubuntu 3D was working fine on 12.04. I installed ccsm and compiz fusion icon and then shut down the computer. On a reboot I lost the hud the launcher the top panel and also alt+f2 is not working. I was hoping to restart compiz/unity on the same desktop. How do I do that. Also what could be the problem ?
[14:28] <Vivekananda> I am using ubuntu 2D now but I like the 'ubuntu' only login more.
[14:28] <BluesKaj> Danny67892:  doesn't xchat list the number of users in the chat ?
[14:30] <Danny67892> How many users are there on this channel?
[14:30] <bekks> Danny67892: Why does it matter?
[14:31] <Vivekananda> hello
[14:31] <dante_> hi everybody
[14:33] <dante_> but in this ch the people speak about ubuntu or it is a kid room
[14:33] <dante_> ???
[14:33] <deepblue> i can't connect to spotchat in Xchat,what should i do?
[14:34] <Myrtti> dante_: support channel
[14:34] <SchrodingersScat> dante_: it's a family friendly channel mostly, anyone can ask their question
[14:34] <BluesKaj> deepblue:  spotchat has it's own server
[14:34] <Myrtti> dante_: if you want just to chat about it and don't actually have a support issue or don't want to help others, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:35] <deepblue> BluesKaj,  so?
[14:35] <dante_> I understand, really amazing!
[14:35] <aylerni> Yo. My ubuntu hdd installd boot is just blinking.. What am i doinwrong
[14:36] <aylerni> No instsll error. Ive set primary table
[14:37] <beefman> zykotick9, thanks, that worked
[14:37] <lantizia> Hey my nfs server is creating files that are 664 and dirs that are 2775  -  can i change this to normal 644 and 755 ?
[14:37] <zykotick9> beefman: glad to help
[14:37] <BluesKaj> deepblue: so it's not an ubuntu question
[14:39] <aylerni> Plox
[14:40] <aylerni> I installd ubuntu 100000 times b4 but on this computer its just blinking. Why
[14:41] <compdoc> aylerni, you have more then one drive inthe system?
[14:41] <aylerni> Yes one 100gb
[14:41] <yeahnoob> Totally Fresh install? No other system except Ubuntu?
[14:42] <aylerni> Nop
[14:42] <compdoc> so you have two drives?
[14:42] <aylerni> Yes. I removed it. Now it says dchp loading
[14:42] <PeterParada> hello
[14:42] <jundoe> hello everyone, i would like your opinion. I am presently using ubuntu, the latest one, i presume, but my computer is still so slow for it,. someone advised me to use lubuntu because it is lightweight. i tried it now. So i am now in the live cd lubuntu which i downloaded about an hour ago. I found ubuntu better than lubuntu in terms of bugs because i found lubuntu a bit buggy,... would anyone advice lubntu? thank you.
[14:43] <PeterParada> #ubuntu
[14:43] <aylerni> "no boot disk detected" .... -___-
[14:44] <jundoe> yea i my flash drive wasnot detected
[14:44] <jundoe> anyone around?
[14:44] <PeterParada> hello
[14:45] <jundoe> hi
[14:45] <PeterParada> where are you from jundoe?
[14:45] <aylerni> Nvm, i will make anothr usb. Bye
[14:45] <PeterParada> I am here for the first time
[14:45] <jundoe> Asia
[14:45] <jundoe> u?
[14:45] <PeterParada> Slovakia
[14:45] <jundoe> good, first time ubuntu user too?
[14:46] <PeterParada> yeah, I just installed ubuntu one week ago
[14:46] <jundoe> ok
[14:46] <jundoe> how do you find your new OS?
[14:47] <PeterParada> my friend have mac, and It s easy to programming with UNIX systems
[14:47] <jundoe> what programming language?
[14:47] <Condenado> hello, does anyone here knows a GUI application to create/config keybinds?
[14:47] <PeterParada> I learn Python right now, my friend JS
[14:47] <PeterParada> u?
[14:48] <jundoe> VB hheheh
[14:48] <jundoe> Condenado, what are you trying to do?
[14:48] <PeterParada> yeah OOP :)
[14:49] <jundoe> yes, i know VB Java, C++, PHP
[14:49] <Condenado> dedicate a print screen key for that
[14:49] <Condenado> on LXDE
[14:49] <jundoe> why you specifically learning Python?
[14:49] <somsip> !ot | jundoe, PeterParada
[14:50] <PeterParada> I joining on Udacity course cs101 and here was python, do you know this? www.udacity.com
[14:51] <jundoe> PeterParada: #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:51] <PeterParada> where can I learn about using IRC?
[14:52] <gordonjcp> PeterParada: on IRC, generally ;-)
[14:52] <PeterParada> :) great
[14:52] <gordonjcp> PeterParada: but that is more suitable for #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:52] <Alahin> Good day
[14:52] <PeterParada> how do I know, if for example /join #fgsgsd already exist?
[14:53] <Alahin> can someone help me set-up gadmin-proftpd? for some reason the software keeps crashing
[14:58] <Alahin> I'm trying to setup gadmin-proftpd, but for some reason the software keeps crashing. I have tried to search for answers on the internet, but most questions only give me config files for only proftpd itself
[14:58] <bekks> Alahin: Thats the way to go, configure your ftp using config files.
[15:00] <Alahin> bekks: I'm a bit of a config noob and its a LAN server only where i prefer to have some FTP over SAMBA. And since i'm only going to do this once or twice max a year I will need to search every time to know the answer. Would it be possible to have a step-by-step for having to get a user in a specific directory?
[15:01] <bekks> Alahin: Either use FTP or Samba.
[15:01] <Alahin> bekks: so you would recommend using Samba over FTP?
[15:01] <bekks> Alahin: Either use FTP or Samba. No need to use FTP over Samba.
[15:03] <Alahin> bekks: sorry, what I meant is that I prefer to use FTP instaid of Samba for some connections
[15:03] <bekks> Alahin: Then use FTP instead of Samba.
[15:04] <eer> After using the find command , is there a trick or quick way to navigate to a location where a file was found?
[15:04] <bekks> eer: copy & paste :)
[15:04] <eer> That is what I thought.
[15:05] <eer> But what if I am in a shell and not terminal?
[15:05] <eer> I mean what if I don't have a mouse?
[15:05] <bekks> eer: Whats the difference? c&p works.
[15:06] <DarthEaron> so i want to install ubuntu server on an esxi host...here is the thing...i am going to want some packages installed to the server, problem is i will not have internet for the server...is there a way i can make a custom install cd or something of that natrure?
[15:06] <eer> bekks, how do you do copy and paste without mouse?
[15:06] <blurkis> is there some way to play music on computer 1# with ubuntu, and have the music go trough computer 2# that also has ubuntu? I remember some years ago that it was possible with esound and linux..?
[15:06] <bekks> eer: Ido have a mouse in console.
[15:07] <SchrodingersScat> eer: in screen there is a copy mode, m^a-Esc iirc
[15:07] <eer> bekks, I don't. Please press ctrol+alt+f1
[15:07] <zykotick9> eer: option A) install gpm and you will have mouse (with copy/paste) in console  OR option B) use tmuxORscreen which have a built in copy/paste funtion
[15:08] <wylde> !offline | DarthEaron
[15:08] <Gentoo64> eer: or use tab completion and type quickly by hand
[15:09] <SchrodingersScat> eer: there is also options like xargs, so you could pipe the location into a cd command
[15:09] <eer>  m^a-Esc doesn't work
[15:10] <eer> SchrodingersScat, but only if the result is one line, right?
[15:10] <eer> How do you press  m^a-Esc ?
[15:10] <SchrodingersScat> eer: weird, works on my machine, my master key is ctrl, so i do a ctrl-a-esc and screen tells me it's in copy mode, some terminals/WM might reserve esc for other shortcuts.
[15:11] <SchrodingersScat> eer: I hold control, press a, press esc. release.
[15:12] <eer> ctrl-a-esc doesn't work
[15:12] <linuxearth>  I have downloaded and burned the ubuntu lts cd. But in my pc, i have cmos battery not working properly. For the time being (until I get the new cmos battery), I change the date (from the bios) when I login to the pc. So in this scenario, can I install the Ubuntu LTS 12.04, it won't have any issue(s)...?
[15:12] <zykotick9> eer: press ctrl+a (then release all fingers), THEN press ESC
[15:13] <wylde> !ntp | linuxearth: should be fine
[15:13] <TheGreatBacon> @linuxearth If you are going to do the install without CMOS battery backup, then complete the install and all updates on the same boot.
[15:14] <jerry__> yes
[15:15] <Ceninant> Hmm, can I ask hardware questions in here?
[15:15] <linuxearth> ok
[15:15] <linuxearth> in the same boot it should be done right?
[15:15] <linuxearth> because then i won't have to change the date
[15:15] <linuxearth> correct
[15:15] <Hodapp> Ceninant: If you ask if you can ask, you're going to deal with people criticizing you; if you ask anyway, you'll get the same. So go ahead and ask.
[15:15] <linuxearth> oh i saw those two links thanks
[15:15] <zykotick9> Ceninant: is it ubuntu related?  if not, try ##hardware
[15:16] <linuxearth> thanks to all the guys bye
[15:17] <jerry__> bye
[15:17] <delinquentme> how should I go about uninstalling this; https://github.com/iceplayer112/H4Y/blob/master/docs/setup-guide-vagrant.md
[15:17] <Ceninant> "CMOS checksum fail resetting to defaults, f1 to continue del for setup"
[15:17] <Ceninant> Switched the jumper back and forth. Known good ram, no POST codes, no drives, using onboard video, but now I can't get keyboard input recognized to get into BIOS.
[15:17] <delinquentme> I've run the ./scripts/setup-devel-env  but I think this was supposed to be on the VB
[15:17] <Hodapp> Ceninant: PS/2 keyboard? USB?
[15:17] <delinquentme> not my localmachine
[15:17] <Ceninant> Hodapp: PS2
[15:22] <DarthEaron> if i install ubuntu server to a flash drive (8gb) can i move the install to a hard drive later?
[15:22] <gordonjcp> DarthEaron: yes, kind of
[15:23] <DarthEaron> gordonjcp: well i want to install ubuntu server on an offline box...but i would like some custom packages to come with that. so my idea was install on flash drive ware i have internet...then go to the server and just move the install...
[15:24] <gordonjcp> !offline
[15:25] <DarthEaron> ubottu: but running that script on the server would not work because its offline
[15:26] <BluesKaj> DarthEaron:  looks like aptoncd might work for your situation
[15:27] <wylde> DarthEaron: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/APTonCD
[15:27] <Hieberrr> Hey guys, how do you I remove icons from context menus and stuff?
[15:28] <DarthEaron> taking a loog at this now... thanks BluesKaj and wylde
[15:32] <Hieberrr> Anyone?
[15:32] <loki__> Hieberrr, what icons?
[15:33] <Hieberrr> When I right click on the desktop "New Folder" and "New Document" have icons beside them
[15:33] <Hieberrr> this also happens to other menus (e.g., Chrome or any other application)
[15:33] <DarthEaron> if use use aptoncd and create using my Desktop ubuntu...i can use this on ubuntu server?
[15:34] <loki__> Hieberrr, why you want do this?
[15:34] <Hieberrr> loko__: I don't like having those icons there LOL. Could it be because I have gnome-shell installed?
[15:37] <loki__> Hieberrr, i think it is just nautilus
[15:37] <loki__> i checked using dconf--editor, i don't see properties for this.
[15:37] <Hieberrr> hmm
[15:43] <onir> ciao
[15:44] <onir> mi servirebbe scaricare il cd/dvd di xubuntu, chi mi  sa  dire come  fare.
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> !it
[15:45] <onir> ok
[15:48] <baphomet1> hey guys!  do any of you know of any good CRM solutions for linux?
[15:48] <baphomet1> er...ubuntu
[15:48] <deepblue> https://mega.co.nz/#!IBchAI4B!ZMev5xp4D0KbE6hPKuoLTUNKFT48elvd3moIolAxiM8
[15:48] <Bilz> hi guys. quick questoin. i want to install bcmwl-kernel-source on my laptop which has no internet (ubuntu 12.04, trying to fix a wifi problem and i need to back date). its a fresh install so i feel there will be many dependencies missing. how do I go about downloading all the necessary files on a usb drive to migrate the files ove rto my laptop
[15:48] <ender-adam> Hi. I'm on here for the first time. I am a would-be Linux geek. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04.2.
[15:49] <baphomet1> ender-adam: welcome!
[15:49] <mapps> Bilz,  if you search for bcmwl-kernel-source you should be able to dl the .deb files off an ubuntu site i think
[15:49] <mapps> hi ender-adam
[15:49] <ender-adam> hi baphomet1. show me around
[15:49] <ender-adam> mapps too
[15:50] <baphomet1> ender-adam: ubuntuforums.com and omgubuntu.co.uk are some good places to start
[15:50] <baphomet1> heh
[15:50] <ender-adam> I'm a ten-year-old. I'm typing my homework.
[15:50] <mapps> really?
[15:50] <baphomet1> ender-adam: atta boy.  stop chatting and do your HW
[15:50] <noz> Just upgraded from raring to saucy. Had user home directories mounting via sshfs working before lightdm restart. Now it seems environment ($USER and $HOME) are not getting passed to the mount script. Anyone help?
[15:50] <mapps> thats cool having kids using ubuntu
[15:50] <ender-adam> Don't talk to me much for now.
[15:51] <mapps> dont think id used linux at that young of an age
[15:51] <ender-adam> Hey, I've Told the tech lab at school about edubuntu
[15:51] <ender-adam> Hey, I've told the tech lab at school about edubuntu
[15:51] <mapps> whats it run atm..xp?:P
[15:52] <ender-adam> It's a Latitude D610 from a UF guy, ran XP, runs Ubuntu
[15:52] <mapps> uf?
[15:52] <mapps> i meant the tech lab
[15:52] <ender-adam> yeah
[15:52] <mapps> whats a uf
[15:52] <ender-adam> hold on whats the question?
[15:53] <mapps> i just said..jokingly i bet atm the tech lab at your school runs xp
[15:53] <mapps> heh
[15:53] <ender-adam> Oh, University of Florida.
[15:53] <mapps> ahh ok
[15:53] <mapps> thanks
[15:53] <baphomet1> mapps: I agree.  I wish I had gotten started that young
[15:53] <Bilz> mapps, dependency problems :( even with the .deb
[15:53] <baphomet1> on linux that is
[15:53] <Frank81> can some one help me i reach on one vps always shmpages and kmemsize limits and i don't know why
[15:54] <ender-adam> Sometimes I'll stay with grammar, but sometimes I'll just type.
[15:54] <Bilz> debhelper, quilt apparently not instaled
[15:54] <ender-adam> mapps?
[15:54] <Frank81> i watch the number of processes started and the totall used memory and nothing gives me infos on whats going on
[15:54] <mapps> ya what up ender-adam
[15:54] <ender-adam> are you american? i'm not
[15:54] <mapps> yea wouldve been cool baphomet1  think i only used linux when i was at uni or maybe a year before
[15:54] <baphomet1> mapps: let the boy do his HW :P
[15:54] <mapps> so 17/18
[15:54] <mapps> no
[15:55] <ender-adam> yeah. BRB
[15:55] <zexcriz> how can i check debmirror script is running in background or not ?
[15:56] <eer> zykotick9, nope, doesn't work
[15:56] <deepblue> what sites like the wayback machine  r there?
[15:57] <zykotick9> eer: to clarify, you are using screen right?  why not install gpm if you have a mouse attached?
[15:58] <baphomet1> Is anybody in here aware of any decent CRM software for ubuntu/linux?
[15:58] <eer> zykotick9, not using screen; what is gpm?
[15:59] <zykotick9> eer: if you aren't in screen, i'm not sure what your ctrl+a-ESC was then?  gpm gives mouse copy/paste in console.
[16:00] <somsip> baphomet1: helpful thread? http://is.gd/sJYmTE
[16:00] <eer> zykotick9, never mind, i will figure it out. thx for the help
[16:00] <Bilz> hi guys. quick questoin. i want to install bcmwl-kernel-source on my laptop which has no internet (ubuntu 12.04, trying to fix a wifi problem and i need to back date). its a fresh install so i feel there will be many dependencies missing. how do I go about downloading all the necessary files on a usb drive to migrate the files ove rto my laptop
[16:00] <baphomet1> somsip: thanks.  checking it now.
[16:00] <Bilz> i downloaded the .deb which then gives me errors regarding package debhelper and quilt missing
[16:00] <eer> When searching a man page with / how can i jump to the next occurance of the search term?
[16:00] <Bilz> i then downloaded the .deb for debhelper and quilt and again, i get errors installing thos ebecause theyre missing packages
[16:00] <baphomet1> Bilz: I may not be able to help you, but providing the errors could help
[16:01] <Bilz> okay give me a minute, ill take pictures on my phone and upload
[16:01] <baphomet1> somsip: TBH I don't even know if CRM is the right approach for this
[16:02] <baphomet1> Bilz: why not C/P to a text file, put that file on a USB and bring it over to a computer that has internet.  then paste to ubuntu.paste.com
[16:02] <Bilz> good thinkin, it lates :p
[16:04] <Bilz> baphomet1, here is my problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6171759/
[16:04] <Bilz> (and to anyone else of course)
[16:05] <baphomet1> Bilz: it looks like you may have to start downloading additional packages.  is there no way you can hook this thing up to a wired connection to get it configured first?
[16:06] <Bilz> baphomet1, bit of a struggle because of lack of a router at my apartment complex and university
[16:06] <Bilz> but like, there is no way around that then?
[16:06] <baphomet1> Bilz: hmm.  around downloading the additional dependancies and installing them manually?
[16:06] <Ceninant> !offline
[16:07] <Bilz> ooo
[16:07] <ender-adam> mapps i'm back
[16:07] <free_> hi
[16:07] <baphomet1> Ceninant: nice one.
[16:07] <ender-adam> mapps!
[16:08] <ender-adam> baphomet1, is mapps on here anymore?
[16:08] <baphomet1> ender-adam: yes.  could be AFK
[16:08] <ender-adam> call him over here
[16:09] <ender-adam> who are these 'Perni' people
[16:10] <ender-adam> baphomet1 where's mapps for pete's sake
[16:10] <baphomet1> ender-adam: I don't know mate.  calm down.
[16:11] <ender-adam> try this link http://books.google.com/books?id=Ll-t_T7HSGAC&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+hypnotists&hl=en&sa=X&ei=PeZFUoXNJIOA8gT1t4CYDg&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
[16:11] <baphomet1> ender-adam: no thanks.
[16:12] <ender-adam> are you american baphomet1
[16:12] <baphomet1> ender-adam: irrelevant.
[16:13] <Meris> I'm trying to get my HP printer driver to force every print job to print on A4 format and not that blasted Letter.
[16:13] <Viproz> hi
[16:13] <Meris> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 64 bits
[16:13] <ender-adam> baphomet1 are you american
[16:13] <baphomet1> ender-adam: irrelevant.
[16:13] <Danny67892> kl im using 13.04
[16:13] <compdoc> Meris, maybe you need a european version of the driver
[16:13] <ender-adam> Meris i use ubuntu 1204
[16:14] <ender-adam> 32 bit
[16:14] <papna> I have a 12.04 machine where the screen resoluton was right then I rebooted and it's stuck at 800x600. Is the state of the art still adding a modeline to my xorg.conf/
[16:14] <papna> ?
[16:14] <ender-adam> papna do you use a laptop
[16:14] <baphomet1> papna: do you have a video card?
[16:15] <Meris> compdoc, Is there such a thing? I thought the driver was universal. If I could, I would purge the letter format as an option and recompile the driver.
[16:15] <subz3r0> ender-adam: yes hes from the us
[16:15] <papna> It's a desktop with an nvidia card using the 'nvidia' driver.
[16:15] <baphomet1> papna: try changing the driver
[16:16] <compdoc> Meris, dont know - but isnt A4 what they use in europe?
[16:16] <papna> baphomet1: To?
[16:16] <ender-adam> i have a laptop w/ resolution: 1024x768 (4:3)
[16:16] <ender-adam> it works
[16:16] <ender-adam> compdoc youre right 8.5x11 is letter
[16:16] <xsi> How to enable php5 . Apache is working but <?php echo "hello"; ?> - Does not!
[16:17] <ender-adam> compdoc you're right 8.5x11 is letter
[16:17] <Meris> compdoc, it is, but I want all my print jobs to be printed on that format. Even if the document itself is formatted in letter.
[16:17] <xsi> sudo a2enmod php5
[16:17] <xsi> Module php5 already enabled
[16:17] <compdoc> rmm
[16:17] <compdoc> *hrmm
[16:17] <ender-adam> go straight to printer settings
[16:17] <ender-adam> not ctrl-p
[16:18] <ender-adam> i.e. print file in libreoffice
[16:18] <baphomet1> papna: how many options do you have?
[16:18] <papna> baphomet1: I don't know where I should be looking. That's just what it said in the xorg.conf. I can try 'Additional Drivers', though it's taking a while
[16:19] <baphomet1> papna: additional drivers
[16:19] <ender-adam> papna: nah its useless
[16:19] <Meris> ender-adam, not an option I'm afraid. I want it to be the default and I want to force each and every job to use A4 and never again present me with a blinking light on the printer asking me to insert Letter format  paper into the paper tray.
[16:19] <ender-adam> oh i'm not that advanced
[16:20] <ender-adam> baphomet1: tell Meris about me
[16:20] <baphomet1> ender-adam: do it yourself
[16:20] <papna> baphomet1: There's like 5 there. Should't the OSS driver work better?
[16:21] <papna> baphomet1: I'll try the recommended one I guess?
[16:21] <Meris> compdoc, ender-adam, thank you for the suggestions. I'm being called away now. I have to make a meal.
[16:21] <baphomet1> papna: try the recommended one :P
[16:21] <ender-adam> Meris it's my first time on x-chat, i'm 10, i'm a pre-geek
[16:21] <Meris> If anyone else has helpful suggestions, feel free to PM me.
[16:21] <ender-adam> I meris left, tell him what i said
[16:22] <ender-adam> If meris left, tell him what i said
[16:22] <ender-adam> pm you?
[16:22] <baphomet1> Meris: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1506438
[16:22] <Meris> ender-adam, I'm using linux since 1997, so I'm not exactly a beginner... ;-) But I'll have to leave for now. I will be back after cooking and eating our meal.
[16:22] <baphomet1> Meris: check /etc/papersize ?
[16:22] <ender-adam> bye meris
[16:23] <prasadpkamath> hi everyone...my ubuntu 12.04 installer is running for more than 2hrs now (without updates)..is this normal?
[16:23] <prasadpkamath> i am using a 32bit installer on a linux livekey flash drive
[16:23] <prasadpkamath> dual boot with win7ultimate 32bit
[16:24] <baphomet1> prasadpkamath: that does not sound normal
[16:24] <ender-adam> prasadpkamath it's normal on a cd
[16:24] <ender-adam> overtop
[16:24] <ender-adam> of a current os
[16:24] <ender-adam> on a Latitude D610
[16:25] <prasadpkamath> the last time i stopped it after 30 mins and it almost wiped out my windows installation!
[16:25] <prasadpkamath> should i force-stop it now?
[16:25] <ender-adam> hallo treibgold ich heiße ender-adam
[16:26] <treibgold> I've got a problem with thunderbird/enigmail on ubuntu 12.04. When trying to send out an encrypted mail, I get the following error: OpenPGP Alert "Send operation aborted. Error - encryption command failed". Can anybody please help a beginner? Thanks!
[16:26] <baphomet1> prasadpkamath: I would say so, yes.  is your internet connection reliable?
[16:26] <ender-adam> dad uses pgp on thunderbird
[16:27] <prasadpkamath> baphomet1: its running without updates
[16:27] <baphomet1> prasadpkamath: hmm.  try using something like YUMI to create the USB key? try a different USB key?
[16:28] <prasadpkamath> baphomet1: ill make a different key and retry.  thanks...
[16:28] <ender-adam> dad wont want me on irc and im gonna show him my homework so i might be off for a sec
[16:29] <ender-adam> anyone interested in making friends with me?
[16:29] <subz3r0> no
[16:29] <subz3r0> niet
[16:29] <subz3r0> nein
[16:29] <compdoc> me! me!
[16:30] <baphomet1> prasadpkamath: let us know how it goes
[16:30] <M1cha> does anyone know how to compile armhf kernel packages?
[16:30] <M1cha> http://ports.ubuntu.com/pool/universe/l/linux-mako/
[16:30] <ender-adam> 'me me' about what
[16:30] <prasadpkamath> baphomet1: sure
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> M1cha  there's also #ubuntu-kernel and #ubuntu-arm
[16:30] <ender-adam> M1cha: make on terminal should work
[16:31] <ender-adam> compdoc did you say you want to be my friend
[16:31] <subz3r0> ender-adam: make Dich von dannen... works too
[16:31] <compdoc> ender-adam, only if you have money
[16:32] <ender-adam> subz3r0 ich bin Schweizer
[16:32] <baphomet1> compdoc: he is 10.
[16:32] <ender-adam> compdoc i have no credit card
[16:32] <llutz> !ot | ender-adam
[16:32] <papna> baphomet1: Worked like a charm. Thanks
[16:32] <Frank81> can some one plz help me i can't find out what process uses how much real memory in a vps
[16:32] <subz3r0> ender-adam: stop talking bullshit. Lass den Scheiss!
[16:32] <baphomet1> papna: sweet
[16:33] <Frank81> the whole vps uses 1.8gb but when i exam whats used i get 230mb
[16:33] <Frank81> there is a big bap
[16:33] <ender-adam> sorry i had no idea this is support only but i have ideas for basic problems
[16:33] <subz3r0> no1 cares. so stop it!
[16:33] <Frank81> ender then help me and tell me how i can look whats taking memory on a vps
[16:33] <ender-adam> y'all are a bit mean.
[16:34] <subz3r0> ender-adam: type /quit
[16:34] <subz3r0> its magic
[16:35] <Frank81> subzero
[16:35] <Frank81> do something usefull
[16:35] <ender-adam> how can i get to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:35] <Frank81> how can i find out what uses what amount of memory
[16:35] <Frank81> ender-adam: you can't
[16:36] <subz3r0> !top | Frank81
[16:36] <subz3r0> Frank81: top
[16:36] <Frank81> subz3r0: top shows wrong values
[16:36] <k1l> ender-adam: type: /join #channelname
[16:36] <Frank81> since it is a vps
[16:36] <llutz> ender-adam: type "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"
[16:36] <Frank81> so does free
[16:36] <ender-adam> subz3r0 told me to leave
[16:36] <k1l> Frank81: free -m
[16:36] <ender-adam> k1l thanks
[16:36] <k1l> ender-adam: you can stay in here, but keep this channel clear for ubuntu support.
[16:36] <Calinou> free shows cached RAM too
[16:36] <subz3r0> man free
[16:36] <subz3r0> @frank
[16:36] <Calinou> but it shows non-cached too
[16:36] <subz3r0> ahh k1l was faster :>
[16:37] <Frank81> ya but i need to know
[16:37] <Frank81> what does take the ram
[16:37] <Frank81> thats the main goal
[16:37] <Frank81> not to see how much is free
[16:37] <k1l> Frank81: for explanings on what the data means see linuxatemyram.com
[16:37] <Frank81> since every process can have many therads and so on
[16:37] <k1l> Frank81: than startup "htop" and sort for mem usage
[16:39] <Frank81> htop shows interristing infos
[16:39] <Frank81> thx
[16:39] <Calinou> htop yes
[16:39] <ender-adam> no1's on #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:40] <cainlandempire> hi everyone, I'm trying compile my program through the terminal. My issue is it will not compile. What do I need to install?
[16:40] <blurkis> cainlandempire, do you have the needed compilers etc? that is, all those -devel packages?
[16:41] <zykotick9> cainlandempire: you might want to start with build-essential
[16:41] <cainlandempire> not sure. i don't think so!
[16:41] <GreatBacon> Anyone have an unresolved issue I can help with?
[16:42] <compdoc> me! me!
[16:42] <blurkis> GreatBacon, haha, my lawnmover..  ;)
[16:42] <GreatBacon> @blurkis i feel your pain
[16:47] <zykotick9> GreatBacon: two things, 1) you don't need to offer your help, just wait until someone asks something you can help with and 2) using @ in IRC makes you look new, @ is NOT required, this isn't twitter
[16:48] <cainlandempire> I downloaded build-essential. My code still doesn't compile!! What software do I need?
[16:48] <phunyguy> ender-adam: they were right in sending you to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:48] <ikonia> cainlandempire: depends why it's failing
[16:48] <phunyguy> whoops, chat hadn't scrolled
[16:48] <regenkind> hi, is there a possibility to tag files in nemo / nautilus or other file explorer like they'll do it for OS X 10.9 Finder?
[16:48] <cainlandempire> I have no error message
[16:49] <cainlandempire> It takes me to the next line on the terminal
[16:49] <mapps> ender-adam, whats up
[16:49] <gajendra> hi.!!
[16:49] <llutz> !details | cainlandempire
[16:49] <regenkind> not just media files or books like shotwell or calibre do it but any files and use a tag cloud for navigation...
[16:49] <ikonia> cainlandempire: what command are you using ?
[16:50] <PigDude> hi, how do i upgrade 13.04 to 13.10 beta? I followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades but don't see 13.10 updates
[16:50] <cainlandempire> g++ -o lab2 lab2.cpp
[16:50] <Calinou> PigDude: what do you need the beta for?
[16:50] <Calinou> also, try #ubuntu+1
[16:50] <gajendra> i tried installing nvidia prime on ubuntu 13.10 and my xserver won't start
[16:50] <PigDude> Calinou, fun  & profit
[16:51] <gajendra> can anyone tell me how do i fix my xserver on ubuntu 13.10
[16:51] <ikonia> cainlandempire: so what makes you think it's not worked ?
[16:51] <cainlandempire> I don't see the program run!
[16:52] <ikonia> cainlandempire: -o outputfile
[16:52] <cainlandempire> It should ask me for input
[16:52] <ikonia> cainlandempire: or the a.out
[16:52] <ikonia> it should not ask you for input
[16:52] <regenkind> ?
[16:52] <cainlandempire> i'll try it
[16:52] <deepblue> what sites like the wayback machine  r there? i need 2 restore some lost pages,i can't reach this blog anymore: booke4electricians.blogspot.com
[16:53] <gajendra> can anyone tell me how do i fix my xserver on ubuntu 13.10
[16:53] <k1l> !saucy | gajendra
[16:53] <gajendra> i'm using beta release
[16:54] <macwolf74> beta support is in #ubuntu+! it said
[16:54] <macwolf74> +1*
[16:54] <gajendra> okay
[16:55] <regenkind> deepblue: look here: http://www.searchengineshowdown.com/others/archive.shtml
[16:56] <ender-adam> scheiße subz3r0
[16:56] <phunyguy> ender-adam: please stop that
[16:57] <regenkind> hi, is there a possibility to tag files in nemo / nautilus or other file explorer like they'll do it for OS X 10.9 Finder?
[16:58] <regenkind> sorry for the repetition, but this would really make my life easier....
[16:58] <GreatBacon> regenkind, have you seen this? http://iloveubuntu.net/nautilus-receives-tags-ubuntu-1204-lts
[16:59] <wilee-nilee> deepblue, Can you translate that to what earthlings can understand?
[16:59] <wilee-nilee> the blog is closed
[17:00] <k1l> deepblue: that is more a question for #ubuntu-offtopic than ubuntu support in #ubuntu
[17:00] <regenkind> GreatBacon (nice nickname :D ) hm, yes, but this does not appear in my context menu... in 13.04 at least... using Files and Nemo on my machine. Do you have this option
[17:00] <deepblue> wilee-nilee, i could restore some pages
[17:01] <regenkind> ?
[17:01] <wilee-nilee> deepblue, Ah a cache finder I had never heard of wayback, hehe. ;)
[17:01] <phunyguy> wilee-nilee: he is trying to find an old blog that no longer exists, and he asked in OT, just nobody could help.   deepblue, sorry we cannot help you.
[17:02] <deepblue> wilee-nilee, here, http://web.archive.org/web/20130720205910/http://books4electricians.blogspot.com
[17:04] <GreatBacon> regenkind, I don't believe nemo does tags.  Did you see somewhere in the user manual that it does?
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> deepblue, Cool stuff, I can see how that would be useful.
[17:06] <gulag2013> Just installed Nemo. Could be my favorite file manager. Nice tip
[17:07] <deepblue> wilee-nilee,  i lost more than 1500 books on installing ubuntu
[17:07] <regenkind> no, but when opining nautilus, I don't see the Tags menu either... strange... my fs is ext4, what am i missing...
[17:08] <regenkind> thanks for the link, will google some more
[17:09] <GreatBacon> regenkind, look into extended attributes
[17:09] <Danny67892> how do I change colours
[17:09] <regenkind> will do
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> deepblue, Now you know how important backups are, and the definition of user error I suspect, not trying to be smug but the same thing happened to me early on, now I backup everything.
[17:10] <Guest40335> hello,  i used to get my mails from clustermail  with popcon and exchange ... there is one main account and many aliases  .... how to do that on a linux server ?    :)
[17:10] <deepblue> wilee-nilee, now i no
[17:11] <GreatBacon> guest40335 see if postfix does what you need
[17:11] <genoobie> would it be better to install older versions on older machines?
[17:11] <genoobie> like using 12.10 versus 13.04?
[17:12] <daftykins> you'd pick 12.04 since it's LTS
[17:12] <genoobie> P4 3GHz, 3GB ram, nvidia 6800
[17:12] <daftykins> but you'd want to go with lubuntu on that
[17:12] <GreatBacon> or xubuntu
[17:12] <genoobie> yeah, I just installed lubuntu and I'm running into a few problems
[17:12] <compdoc> Guest40335, you have a linux mail server now?
[17:12] <daftykins> 12.10 though or 12.04?
[17:12] <genoobie> daftykins: 13.04
[17:13] <genoobie> should I do 12.04?
[17:13] <daftykins> heh, ah-ha. yeah go LTS, 13.04 loses support in January
[17:13] <Calinou> 12.04 may support your card better I think, not 100% sure
[17:13] <genoobie> well this makes all the diff
[17:13] <genoobie> the newer versions will have a slightly updated kernel but that's all for newer hardware, right?
[17:14] <Guest40335> compdoc ... no .. im just playing around with linux samba4 AD and it works just great to i thought about how to get an alternative mail delivery system running
[17:14] <genoobie> okay, 12.04 it is (from what I understand)
[17:14] <genoobie> what kind of support is LTS?
[17:14] <genoobie> like 3 years?
[17:14] <compdoc> 5
[17:14] <genoobie> should I bother with 13.04?
[17:14] <genoobie> so compdoc until 2018?
[17:14] <compdoc> guess so - its on the website
[17:15] <genoobie> yeah, this 13.04 is not so stable / working on this machine
[17:15] <genoobie> will try 12.04
[17:15] <compdoc> genoobie, the newer versions have more drivers, the older versions are supported longer. its a trade off
[17:15] <genoobie> compdoc: but those drivers would ultimately be for newer hardware
[17:15] <genoobie> my older machine would use older drivers, right?
[17:16] <genoobie> nobody is developing drivers for my machine any longer.
[17:16] <genoobie> as far as I understand
[17:17] <gbh> Hullo, recently installed ubuntu 12.02.2.2 on a laptop, but have encountered some display problems. Originally there was just a black screen, but then after chaning "quite splash" to "nomodeset" everything shows up clearly. The problem, however is that the display is stretched. For example, the square icons on the left side are now rectangles... Any suggestions ?
[17:17] <Guest40335> compdoc ... can i achieve the same results with postfix that exchange+popcon do ?
[17:18] <rogan_> i've posted a question here
[17:18] <rogan_> http://mixxx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5593
[17:18] <regenkind> GreatBacon: OK, I added user_xattr to mount options in fs, will reboot and then let's see what happens :)
[17:19] <regenkind> thx for the help, c u
[17:20] <skinux> ANyone use PortableLinuxApps?
[17:21] <skinux> I downloaded BlueGriffon, but it's giving this error: error while loading shared libraries: libfuse.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[17:21] <abrosen> Hey there!
[17:22] <abrosen> been away from Ubuntu for about a year, and I'm thinking about switching back fro 13.10.  Any exciting changes I should know about?
[17:22] <Calinou> 13.10 is not released yet
[17:22] <Calinou> abrosen: probably not much
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> abrosen  exciting new wallpapers
[17:23] <abrosen> I know it's not released yet.  I mean to say switching back when it is released, sorry.
[17:23] <abrosen> Yay wallpapers!
[17:23] <juzzlin> I'll stick with 12.04 until 14.04.
[17:23] <Vivekananda> hello everyone . Can someone suggest good repo hosting sites. I thought of using ubuntu one somehow but I know there ar ebetter options
[17:23] <gbh> Any suggestions for graphics drivers that are not working ?
[17:26] <juzzlin> Vive: what kind of a repo are you talking about? Git?
[17:26] <Vivekananda> yes git or mercurial or  something. I wanted to have a look at top 10 or something.
[17:27] <abrosen> I use github for basically everything
[17:27] <Vivekananda> also can someone tell me why in unity alt tab does not bring up the other windows ?
[17:27] <Vivekananda> pressing alt tab just shows the hud
[17:27] <Vivekananda> and so does just pressing alt
[17:27] <juzzlin> I've always used sourceforge.net
[17:28] <Vivekananda> abrosen: but it does not allow private repos
[17:28] <Vivekananda> also I liked the way you can link lines of files in bitbucket.
[17:28] <Vivekananda> but I guess all this would be off topic so I should not aks it here
[17:29] <abrosen> vive: ah, I've got an academic account.  Bitbucket does do private repos I believe.
[17:29] <masterjakeway> hello all! looking for some help getting grub installed and set up right
[17:30] <abrosen> master: god have mercy on your soul
[17:30] <masterjakeway> lmao
[17:31] <abrosen> sorry, I dunno about much of the grub setup.  I'm not even sure how I managed to convince mine to work >_>
[17:33] <Vivekananda> lol grub is grubby
[17:33] <Vivekananda> but there are instructions for it around masterjakeway
[17:34] <masterjakeway> I'm trying to get it running from my usb hdd. must have clicked wrong on install and it went on internal mbr. worked good from there. but, didn't want to have to have usb plugged in
[17:34] <genoobie> okay
[17:35] <genoobie> I am trying to install lubuntu 12.03
[17:35] <genoobie> I mean 12.04 after I installed 13.04 (since it wasn't really working well)
[17:35] <genoobie> now the lubuntu 12.04 install seems to be stuck on the splash screen
[17:35] <TJ-> masterjakeway: You can fix it if you mount the USB device and chroot to it, and then run "grub-install /dev/sdX" where sdX is the correct device for the USB
[17:35] <masterjakeway> already fixed internal hd men. tried boot-repair. I just get a black screen with blinking curser. holding shift gets "GRUB" Ruth blinking curse
[17:38] <masterjakeway> TH  can you expand on chroot?
[17:39] <Impossible> how do i see all connected drives
[17:39] <compdoc> maybe: sudo fdisk -l
[17:40] <genoobie> how do I suppress all those quit and join messages
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> genoobie  depends on your irc client
[17:40] <genoobie> MonkeyDust: using a web interface
[17:40] <Calinou> on xchat: irc_conf_mode = 1 in xchat.conf
[17:40] <Calinou> oh
[17:40] <Calinou> it's probably not possible then
[17:40] <genoobie> isn't there a nickesrv cmd?
[17:42] <masterjakeway> so, no one has time?...
[17:43] <daftykins> !chroot | masterjakeway
[17:43] <rogan_> my question is here, ma question est la : http://mixxx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5593
[17:44] <desnaike> fedora
[17:46] <masterjakeway> ok, my table is gpt?
[17:47] <superlou> I have done something very dumb.  I just did 'sudo chown my_user_name / -R', when I meant to do "./"  Am I in deep trouble?
[17:47] <skorasaurus> superlou, did anything output ?
[17:47] <sadi> :|
[17:47] <skorasaurus> depends on the definition of deep trouble.
[17:48] <skorasaurus> on the plus side, none of your data is erased :)
[17:48] <superlou> skorasaurus, yep.  And I closed the terminal before I read it thinking it was something minor.  Then the realization hit me like bricks
[17:48] <Calinou> back up your data, then reinstall
[17:48] <superlou> Oy.  That's what i feared.  Haven't rebooted yet since not sure what the system will be like.
[17:49] <sadi> well I think he do not need to reinstall... though backup data is a good idea
[17:49] <Calinou> try booting from live USB if you can't boot normally :)
[17:50] <superlou> Calinou, haven't restarted yet, so am doing backups like i normally would.
[17:51] <superlou> dang it.  had this been a month from now, could have been an excuse to upgrade
[17:53] <makillo> Oh shit 1745 persons
[17:53] <skorasaurus> how would I reset my x configuration ? I believe it may have been borked. My resolution is stuck at 1024x768 but on a livecd, it's larger, everything works perfect.
[17:53] <skorasaurus> (here's the relevant thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2177572)
[17:53] <MraMaria> Hi. is there any way of purging old kernels (not in use) after upgrading and without rebooting?
[17:53] <prasadpkamath> baphomet1: u thr? i remade the Linux LiveUSB flash drive but it again freezes after "Where are you?" - Continue
[17:55] <prasadpkamath> hi everyone...im trying to install install ubuntu 12.04 on a dual boot win7 but it freezes after "Where are you? - Continue"  any ideas what the prob might be?
[17:59] <skorasaurus> MraMaria: you can install synaptic.
[17:59] <skorasaurus> the package manager, and then search for linux-image
[17:59] <skorasaurus> and look for the old ones to uninstall.
[17:59] <skorasaurus> I'd recommend to keep a couple old ones on your system in case you find out that something isn't working on your current kernel.
[18:00] <rogan_> my question is here, ma question est la : http://mixxx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5593
[18:01] <LolwatMan> I can't install Ubuntu; it sometimes just says
[18:01] <makillo> hi everybody ! I'm not a troll but did someone know a chan for gentoo ?
[18:02] <LolwatMan> When I try to install Ubuntu 13.04 x64 it says "No DEFAULT or UI configuration"
[18:02] <gareim> makillo: try googling "gentoo irc channel"
[18:03] <LolwatMan> And sometimes goes into a red screen but then it says "LZMA data is corrupt" and something with "Kernel Panic"
[18:03] <makillo> Good idea gareim , thx
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> makillo  type /msg alis list *gentoo*, here in the channel, and with the slash
[18:05] <prasadpkamath> hi everyone...im trying to install install ubuntu 12.04 on a dual boot win7 but it freezes after "Where are you? - Continue" any ideas what the prob might be?
[18:06] <onkzzz_> hi guys
[18:07] <Q78949> hey onkzzz
[18:08] <onkzzz_> Hi. Im creating the next best gaming console and i need some advice. How would i create my own ubuntu gui (replacing gnome?)
[18:08] <gareim> you want to create one? or replace gnome with something else?
[18:09] <superlou> onkzzz_, um, that's a pretty big deal.  You could make a launcher that runs on top of unity/gnome etc. which might be more realistic.
[18:09] <onkzzz_> Both really. Relpace GNOME with a new one made by me!
[18:09] <onkzzz_> okay superlou
[18:09] <superlou> onkzzz_, or, step one: fork gnome.  step two: make some changes
[18:09] <onkzzz_> HOW?
[18:09] <superlou> onkzzz_, what are the goals?  Is it a mouse and keyboard console? or primarily some kind of controller?
[18:10] <onkzzz_> Controller.
[18:10] <gareim> I feel like if you have to ask, you won't be able to do it..
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> onkzzz_, This is ubuntu support not how hand fed training to fulfill your fantasy.
[18:10] <BluesKaj> big ideas , wrong place to ask'
[18:10] <onkzzz_> AMD A8, sphere like casing, 4GB RAM, we hve it sorted.
[18:10] <superlou> agreed.
[18:10] <onkzzz_> Sorry, but where do i ask?
[18:11] <blazeme8> Hi, I'm trying to install a perl module. But cpan keeps saying: "New CPAN.pm version (v2.00) available. \n You might want to try\
[18:11] <prasadpkamath> im trying to install install ubuntu 12.04 on a dual boot win7 but it freezes after "Where are you?" any ideas what the prob might be?
[18:11] <superlou> onkzzz_, i think i'd set up a wiki somewhere and start brainstorming there.  and have a dedicated IRC room.
[18:11] <blazeme8> install CPAN\n reload cpan". Even when I run sudo cpan install cpan. So I can't install any modules. ANy ideas?
[18:11] <superlou> onkzzz_, once you know what technologies you'll be using, then specific questions related to what you've chosen can be asked in their forums
[18:11] <onkzzz_> But how could i get help? The random section of the forum?
[18:11] <MraMaria> skorasaurus: thanks. i'm afraid of breaking the system. i'm doing it in a closed environment (ubuntu-builder). i upgrade the kernel and i would like to remove the old ones, before making the image
[18:11] <gareim> prasadpkamath: you might have more like asking in the forum cause no one here seems able/willing to tackle your problem
[18:12] <compdoc> I dont know much about it, but there are lots of replacement GUI's for ubuntu (lubuntu, xubuntu, etc). So its not impossible. Sounds like you want a gui that doesnt do much other than deal with running a game, or games. I'd think thats a lot less work than creating your own desktop replacement.
[18:13] <compdoc> onkzzz_ ^
[18:13] <onkzzz_> True. And even so, maybe i could just use a plugin or two instead.
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> !ot
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> take this to the proper channel
[18:13] <_arachnid> ubuntu 12.04 freezes on asking location during installation. any ideas what the prob might be?
[18:14] <onkzzz_> Thanks! Might go to offtopic section now
[18:14] <_arachnid> just cannot move ahead....been there since 2 hrs now
[18:15] <_arachnid> no activity on HDD or flash drive (my flash drive has an indicator which flashes when being read/written to)
[18:15] <_arachnid> any help would be appreciated
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> _arachnid, Is the hardware up to a ubuntu install, and have you summed the iso?
[18:15] <Q78949> _arachnid: whats up?
[18:16] <_arachnid> its a VIA proc, 2GB, 1TB
[18:16] <_arachnid> iso is also fine...worked the first time 'round
[18:16] <superlou> Welp, rebooting after the great chowning of September 29th.  See you guys on the flip side.  Thanks!
[18:17] <BluesKaj> _arachnid: could be the ubiuty bug , some hW isn't recognized and the installer stalls  especially if you have a wireless KB and mouse
[18:17] <_arachnid> i uninstalled ubuntu and had to reset grub
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> _arachnid, What do you mean worked first time around, in these instances?
[18:17] <BluesKaj> ubiquity
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> _arachnid, I had 13.10 only able to install yesterday by the straight install before the live gui, have you tried this?
[18:18] <_arachnid> BluesKaj: how come it worked the first time 'round?
[18:19] <_arachnid> wilee-nilee: couldnt get you...could u pls explain?
[18:19] <BluesKaj> _arachnid: ok then why are you reinstalling ?
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> _arachnid, On the live cd are two o[tions a install from the desktop or a install with a gui, that is offered before the live desktop, from a disc it shows in the first choice.
[18:21] <_arachnid> BluesKaj: I wanted to use the full HDD of 1TB. prior to this, part of the 1TB was being used by win7. I uninstalled ubuntu, reset the grub since win7 stopped booting and then used "Some thing Else" and created 3 partitions
[18:21] <_arachnid> 20GB for /
[18:21] <_arachnid> 2GB for swap
[18:21] <_arachnid> and the remaining mounted to /home
[18:22] <_arachnid> wilee-nilee: there is no such option. I am using a Linux LiveKey flash drive
[18:23] <_arachnid> wilee-nilee: i boot into the flash disk and use "Something Else"
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> _arachnid, You have to use the right loader, all will show it, you will just have to investigate how.
[18:23] <genoobie> hey all
[18:24] <genoobie> I installed linux mint MATE desktop
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> _arachnid, The same options are in this other straight install gui's
[18:24] <genoobie> and it's pretty sluggish
[18:24] <genoobie> I liked lubuntu but can't get it to install 12.04
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> genoobie, Mate is not supported here however cinnamon is.
[18:24] <genoobie> wilee-nilee: hey
[18:24] <_arachnid> wilee-nilee: but it had installed it the first time 'round without any hassle. only then I had used the first option
[18:25] <genoobie> wilee-nilee: I liked lubuntu but 13.04 has some issues with my hardware
[18:25] <genoobie> wilee-nilee: I thought I would go back to 12.04
[18:25] <genoobie> wilee-nilee: but 12.04 lubuntu won't get past the splash screen
[18:25] <genoobie> wilee-nilee: do you have any suggestions?
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> _arachnid, Nice argument but without any details not really a fair one.
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> _arachnid, To many variables that arguement becomes the 100 questions to maybe find the answer.
[18:26] <_arachnid> wilee-nilee, tell me what details are reqd. I can give u my config if thats reqd
[18:26] <logic_prog_> is there a way to (1) resize my osx partition to make room for ubuntu (2) install ubuntu on another partition, and (3) run them at the same time using parallels?
[18:26] <Platypus_> Hello all :)
[18:27] <Platypus_> I was wondering how I would go about completely removing unity and replacing it with MATE
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> _arachnid, reload the usb at the least, and check the ISO's sum this is fast easy answers.
[18:27] <Platypus_> on a clean 12.04.3 install
[18:27] <_arachnid> wilee-nilee: ok will get back in some time
[18:28] <_arachnid> wilee-nilee: will chk that first
[18:28] <wilee-nilee> Platypus_, unity is tiny and a plugin in compiz running on top of gnome 3 not worth the hassle of removing, mate is not supported here as well.
[18:29] <BluesKaj> logic_prog_:  gparted live media partitoner
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> Platypus_, cinnamon is in the 13.04 repos.
[18:29] <Platypus_> I'd like to use the LTS release
[18:29] <Platypus_> How about openbox
[18:32] <badwifi> wifi is extremely slow on my 13.04 laptop. speed maxes out at 100kB/s at most, connections time out, pings are spiky (even my router jumps up to 100ms every couple of packets). The card is a BCM43224 (integrated, macbook air). The problem occurs on many different routers, and only on ubuntu. MacOS is fine, as are all my other wifi devices.
[18:32] <badwifi> I've tried both the wl and the brcmsmac drivers, disabled ipv6 and disabled mdns, tried to reload the module but to no avail. Any ideas?
[18:33] <badwifi> I also wanted to try wicd instead of gnome-network-manager, but wicd causes kernel panics so that'll have to wait
[18:34] <u3> hello is it good
[18:35] <u3> are the 24/7 sleeping or what
[18:36] <neena_> hello everyone.. any java developer in house ?
[18:36] <mars_> hi
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> neena_, This is ubuntu support.
[18:37] <neena_> wilee-nilee i know .. i tried #Java and ##Java channel .. but there is no channel by this name .. and i need a small help on my java code :(
[18:37] <badwifi> neena_: huh? #java exists
[18:38] <Q78949> yeah invite only
[18:38] <neena_> but i connect to it :(
[18:38] <badwifi> weird
[18:38] <neena_> i cant
[18:38] <badwifi> good time to pick up scala then
[18:38] <tking0036> Can somebody help me setup my pptp vpn server? Clients are unable to connect.. One second I'll pastebin my logs
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> neena_, This channel works on you stating the actual problem, if someone knows the answer they may answer
[18:38] <neena_> badwifi but i cant connect to it
[18:39] <neena_> wilee-nilee do u know any other site like this where i can get help in ral time
[18:39] <neena_> real*
[18:40] <_arachnid> wilee-nilee	: the hash check worked fine...what can i do next?
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> neena_, maybe ##linux you have to be registered with freenode is all.
[18:41] <tking0036> This is my log http://pastebin.com/awP5h1EV
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> _arachnid, I would investigate the straight install the gui's are the same, can't say this is the answer, but you have to knock out variables in this sort of situation. Look on the web with this computer model and problems maybe. The problem is a bit unusual is all.
[18:43] <_arachnid> ok
[18:43] <tking0036> This is my iptables config http://pastebin.com/EU4angUJ
[18:43] <badwifi> lovely; iwconfig causes a kernel panic
[18:44] <Hathadar> Why is it that when I am searching for software to download for ubuntu I often have several choices for the particular release of ubuntu (pricese, quantal, etc).  Is software simply not developed for the linux platform in general?
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> Hathadar, each release may have versions that were upgraded during this release time, ubuntu has a 6 month release schedule.
[18:47] <Hathadar> If I were to download a g++ for a previous version of ubuntu, would it still run without a problem?
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> tons of apps and tons of developers working together disparately.
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> Hathadar, here you will be supported for what's part of a release, that you will have to investigate. The question is to broad, and frankly not part of the channels support definition.
[18:49] <PatrickDickey> Hathadar: In general, you'll probably want the version that's supplied for the particular release. Unless there's something that was removed, and you absolutely need it.
[18:49] <Hathadar> Also, when I do a apt-cache search g++ I get many pages of text.  How would I go about finding the appropriate apt-get command for g++ without asking google?
[18:51] <grumbly> hello.  I am in need of a little help with orca.  I can't stand the voice but I can't seem to get a less abrasive sound
[18:51] <krnl> i try to update ubuntu 8.04 because source.list items give 404 error, but cant do get the package to install a newer version since repo list is unavailable. do you know some workaround for this?
[18:52] <gordonjcp> krnl: there is none.  8.04 is well dead and you should upgrade
[18:53] <krnl> gordonjcp: i try to upgrade but cant upgrade because i cant download update-manager-core package.
[18:53] <grumbly> anyone with orca experience?  I feel like my computer is being shouted at
[18:53] <grumbly> krnl: you are not going to be able to upgrade that way
[18:53] <gordonjcp> krnl: you're going to need to install something newer
[18:53] <kostkon> !eolupgrade
[18:53] <Q78949> grumbly: no never tried it
[18:53] <grumbly> I mean is shouting at me
[18:54] <krnl> grumbly: but how else can i upgrade, if i cant download a package that upgrades the system?
[18:54] <grumbly> it is very stressful
[18:54] <grumbly> krnl: one moment
[18:54] <krnl> gordonjcp: i cant install anything with apt yet.
[18:54] <krnl> grumbly: thnx
[18:54] <Q78949> grumbly: there should be settings to adjust it
[18:55] <Hathadar> I am trying to find the appropriate apt-get command to download g++.  I have found http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/g++ however it does not show a command there and under 'package:' it just states g++ which apt-get says is an invalid operation.
[18:55] <gordonjcp> krnl: forget apt
[18:55] <grumbly> Q78949: there are... but... I... hearing every line of IRC is SUPER terrible...
[18:55] <grumbly> one moment
[18:55] <gordonjcp> krnl: you need to install a newer version of u
[18:55] <gordonjcp> krnl: you need to install a newer version of Ubuntu
[18:55] <gordonjcp> krnl: you cannot get apt working because 8.04 is no longer supported
[18:55] <krnl> gordonjcp: its a vps, i have only terminal access :/ can i doit somehow without apt?
[18:56] <Q78949> grumbly: I guess it would be
[18:56] <grumbly> krnl: do you know how to make a bootable USB disk?
[18:56] <gordonjcp> krnl: wipe and reinstall
[18:56] <grumbly> gordonjcp: there are better ways
[18:56] <krnl> grumbly: the server is physically far fro me :/
[18:56] <poee> hi is the new distro upgrade an lts?
[18:57] <grumbly> krnl: that is a problem only you will be able to solve.  If you can download the disk image of a newer release, you should then make a bootable USB disk and install from there
[18:57] <grumbly> krnl: I am looking for a link.  where are you located?
[18:57] <krnl> grumbly: hungary :)
[18:57] <grumbly> krnl: ok.  Wait a moment.
[18:58] <krnl> thnx
[18:58] <kostkon> poee: 13.10 is not a lts release
[18:59] <grumbly> krnl: try this link http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads  You will have to get somewhat creative.
[18:59] <krnl> grumbly: ill try, thanks a lot!
[19:04] <SupaSol> hello here
[19:11] <Hathadar> I am wanting to copy output from a terminal directly into the clipboard for pasting elsewhere.  Google tells me to install xclip.  Is there not a way to do this already built into ubuntu?
[19:11] <gordonjcp> Hathadar: select the text, middle click somewhere else
[19:11] <Q78949> Hathadar: you can send it to a file
[19:12] <xangua> !pastebin | Hathadar
[19:12] <Hathadar> gordonjcp, if I have no middle mouse?
[19:13] <gordonjcp> Hathadar: left+right mouse button ;-0
[19:14] <Hathadar> thx.  While that would work, I would prefer to not have to remove my fingers from my keyboard.  Is there a hotkey or command?
[19:15] <gordonjcp> Hathadar: no midea
[19:15] <gordonjcp> *idea
[19:15] <loki__> how i can enable hibernate in ubuntu?
[19:15] <loki__> pm-hibernate works well
[19:15] <gordonjcp> Hathadar: you're using the mouse to select text anyway
[19:16] <Hathadar> Yes, but I would also like to output to the clipboard similar to how you would output to a file.
[19:16] <Gentoo64> use xclip then
[19:17] <Hathadar> Gentoo64, I'll likely do that.  I was just wondering  if there was a native means.
[19:36] <mipo> hi when I run fusion-icon for compiz fusion , I get segment error , how to solve it?
[19:36] <laz_> close
[19:51] <bwayne> Hathadar: I have an alias in my .bashrc to make it more handy: 'alias clipboard=xclip -sel clip'
[19:52] <bwayne> Hathadar: then I can `cmd | clipboard`
[19:53] <andrewvos> Using i3wm and having this weird issue where I get a policykit error when trying to install something inside policykit
[19:53] <andrewvos> Anyone seen this?
[19:54] <andrewvos> Erm, last policykit == software-center
[19:55] <Malimbar> my laser mouse keeps being choppy, especially in the up/down, and especiallywhen going slow, anyideas?
[19:56] <andrewvos> I have this running 896 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd --no-debug
[19:57] <andrewvos> I can use software-center using sudo, and that works. Should I be doing this?
[19:57] <bwayne> Malimbar: that happens to me when i use it on a dirty surface, the mouse laser lense it dirty, or the batteries are low. just my experience.
[19:57] <superlou> skorasaurus, well, that stunk, but system is nominally back up.
[19:58] <andrewvos> Unity seems to launch software-center without sudo
[19:58] <andrewvos> Or gnome, or whatever uses /usr/share/applications/*
[20:00] <PatrickDickey> andrewvos: Don't quote me on this, but once you start to install something from Software Center, it prompts you for your sudo password.
[20:00] <andrewvos> PatrickDickey: Yeah. Wish I was getting that window other than the error I'm getting now
[20:01] <gbh> Hello. I recently installed ubuntu 12.04. At first screen was black and then I had to change the grub "quiet splash" to "nomdoset". Now there is a display, but it is all stretched and a bit fuzzy... Any ideas ?
[20:01] <andrewvos> The error: "Software can't be installed or removed because the authentication service is not available. (org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name':  ':1.79'}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages"
[20:01] <Malimbar> bwayne, USB (not battery), and surface looks clean. Not sure if I can clea nthe laser lens 'cus it's regressed into the mouse
[20:02] <gbh> apparently there is a graphics driver problem...
[20:02] <boxman> Can anyone please explain to me why it is impossible for me to get vsync/no tearing with videos when using anything but unity?? All the suggestions about changing the refresh rate, enabling sync to vblank in compizconfig manager does not work, because the sync to vblank and refresh rate slider does not exist for me.. they are just missing
[20:03] <bwayne> Malimbar: I usually take a q-tib and put a little alcohol on it to clean the lense. what make/model is your mouse?
[20:03] <bindi> boxman: install ccsm and disable composite
[20:03] <boxman> i have tried to disable it as well.. no help either
[20:03] <boxman> but why are those features missing?
[20:03] <boxman> i have a screenshot if i am allowed to post
[20:04] <boxman> this is btw using official nvidia drivers on a gtx 650ti using ubuntu 13.04
[20:04] <bindi> boxman: i actually had a problem where i was running unity 2d and xbmc on top of that, i disabled composite and it fixed vsync issues.. for a moment, don't know what happend, then i just got rid of unity altogether and running xbmc standalone, no more issues
[20:04] <Malimbar> bwayne, Logitech, not sure what model it is. Got lots of ID codes though for whatever you want
[20:04] <Malimbar> bwayne, M/N, P/N, PID, Rating, Class 1 Laser Produc, bunch of stuff like that
[20:05] <boxman> i know if i could tick the sync to vblank box these issues would be fixed..
[20:05] <bindi> boxman: tried this? sudo nvidia-xconfig --no-composite
[20:05] <boxman> let me try.. already tried editing the xorg.conf file to disable it manually but that did not help either
[20:06] <andrewvos> meh
[20:06] <bindi> boxman: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=98108 so this is what you tried and didnt work?
[20:06] <boxman> yep
[20:07] <bindi> boxman: #xbmc-linux guys are quite good at this stuff, could x-post and ask there
[20:07] <superlou> Is there a stock way to always show the global menu?
[20:08] <boxman> http://s24.postimg.org/u1r32iw9v/fucasdas.png <-- here is my odd issue with compizconfig manager
[20:08] <boxman> some features just seems to be missing
[20:08] <boxman> there should be a refresh rate slider and a sync to vblank tickbox
[20:09] <bwayne> Malimbar: everything on I'm finding on interwebs is in regards to getting all of the extra buttons to work. does this happen at certain times or constantly?
[20:09] <eer> What are OK values for the load averages?
[20:09] <gbh> Would anyone have any suggestions for new install display problems ?
[20:10] <Malimbar> bwayne, seems to be when it's cold, but that might be my imagination
[20:11] <bwayne> Malimbar: in other words, it's not a constant problem. it's only when the mouse feel cold to the touch?
[20:12] <Malimbar> bwayne, when I feel cold to the touch at least. But that's most of th etime I use the computer these days (late at night), so no guarantees
[20:13] <Malimbar> bwayne, but yeah, I superstitious it's a cold problem
[20:13] <bwayne> Malimbar: you'll need someone to come and spiritually cleanse your house.
[20:14] <Malimbar> bwayne, I'll do that. Now would you suggest native american theology, abrahamic theology, or eastern theology for the cleanser?
[20:14] <bwayne> Malimbar: all of them.
[20:14] <Malimbar> Native americans have some good smelling herbs, so I'll try that one first
[20:15] <reisio> I like their cactuses
[20:16] <Xerofyte> Hello Every One: Can anyone help me with the Boot Screen. Yesterday it was working But today when I ran ubuntu 12.04 the Bot screen did not show up. How to fix this?
[20:16] <eer> What are OK values for the load averages?
[20:16] <gbh> I installed ubuntu 12.04 and have some display problems. TRied to chage grub, hasn't helped much. Any suggestions ?
[20:17] <Xerofyte> gbh: what type of problems are you facing actually?
[20:17] <gbh> xerofyte: First a black screen.
[20:18] <gbh> xerofyte: then a stretched screen after changing the grub "quiet splash" to "nomodeset"
[20:18] <gbh> xerofyte: apparently it's a graphics driver problem, but I don't know what to do about that...
[20:19] <Xerofyte> gbh: Did you install the latest drivers for your video Card. ?
[20:19] <Xerofyte> in the Dash Home Search for "Additional Drivers"
[20:19] <gbh> xerofyte: I think I tried.... is there a command for that?
[20:20] <dem0n_> i need help
[20:21] <bekks> dem0n_: Then ask a question please :)
[20:21] <Xerofyte> Hello Every One: Can anyone help me with the Boot Screen. Yesterday it was working But today when I ran ubuntu 12.04 the Bot screen did not show up. How to fix this?
[20:21] <gbh> xerofyte: then a stretched screen after changing the grub "quiet splash" to "nomodeset"
[20:21] <gbh> xerofyte: Tried that. It says that no propiertary drivers are in use in this system...
[20:22] <dem0n_> how to hack games account ?
[20:22] <Xerofyte> gbh: Did you Install the latest Updates?
[20:22] <dem0n_> ?
[20:23] <gbh> xerofyte: yes I did that today.
[20:23] <Xerofyte> gbh: it was happening to me last night. I Installed the updates first. Then I searched for the additional drivers, They appeared later.
[20:24] <gbh> xerofyte: So for the updates, did you just use the updates manager or did you ask for specific updates?
[20:24] <Xerofyte> gbh: I Used the Update Manager, and Installed every update.
[20:25] <dem0n_> hellp
[20:25] <gbh> xerofyte: I mean I can see everything clearly, the problem is just that the display is stretched so square icons look rectangualr et cetera.
[20:25] <dem0n_> how to hack this games http://www.oyuntravian.com/trx2/login.php
[20:25] <gbh> xerofyte: Yes, that's what I did too.
[20:26] <bekks> dem0n_: What do you want to do?
[20:26] <dem0n_> i need hack acccount username password
[20:26] <bekks> dem0n_: SO you dont have an ubuntu related support issue, dont you?
[20:27] <dem0n_> i dont have
[20:27] <dem0n_> i have windows shitt
[20:27] <bekks> !ot | dem0n_
[20:27] <PatrickDickey> Then you might want to ask in ##windows
[20:27] <dem0n_> bekks
[20:27] <dem0n_> do you help me
[20:27] <bekks> dem0n_: No.
[20:27] <dem0n_> ok
[20:28] <dem0n_> my friends
[20:28] <boxman> gave it another try with completely disabling composition... but it just makes the tearing issues worse.. So my only hope is to get those missing features from compizmanager, so that i can actually tick off the sync to vblank and set the refresh rate manually..
[20:28] <dem0n_> wher is RING
[20:28] <dem0n_> ?
[20:28] <dem0n_> !seen RING
[20:28] <boxman> funny thing is that it worked perfectly until i switched to a new tv
[20:28] <boxman> those options just magically vanished from compizmanager as well then
[20:29] <boxman> did anyone take a look at my screenshot??
[20:31] <Xerofyte> There is a Directory in my "Downloads" in "Home" How to I access "Downloads" directory through terminal?
[20:31] <daftykins> cd ~/Downloads/
[20:31] <PatrickDickey> Xerofyte: cd Downloads (if you're in your home) otherwise cd ~/Downloads
[20:31] <z302> Xerofyte, actually, just cd Downloads if you just opened the terminal
[20:32] <z302> hint: type 'ls' after doing the cd thing
[20:32] <Xerofyte> daftykins: PatrickDickey: z302: Thanks let me try this
[20:32] <z302> try to use the TAB key while you type, it will try to autocomplete the full name
[20:34] <boxman> so no one can explain or suggest anything for the missing features in  compizconfig manager? http://s24.postimg.org/u1r32iw9v/fucasdas.png
[20:34] <reisio> boxman: what's missing?
[20:35] <boxman> the refresh rate  slider and sync to vblank tick box
[20:35] <boxman> i need that to fix the tearing issues in video playback
[20:35] <reisio> boxman: what video device?
[20:35] <danes123> hello, how can I mount a samba shared place in a client? I tried mount -t smbfs //ip/share /media/smb but it does not work. I tried with -t cifs but still does throw an error
[20:35] <boxman> let me find a screenshot of how it should be
[20:35] <boxman> gtx 650ti
[20:35] <danes123> any clues on what can I do?
[20:36] <boxman> using official nvidia drivers 310.44
[20:36] <boxman> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5bdO0FMWXa8/TLCs6pNWAUI/AAAAAAAAAU8/YqJr_InnwXA/s1600/C:%5Cfakepath%5CCompizConfig+Settings+Manager_005.png
[20:36] <boxman> this is how it should look
[20:37] <faugusztin> danes123: credentials ?
[20:37] <boxman> and how it looked for me before on 12.04 before i changed to a new tv.. then those features just vanished
[20:37] <boxman> dont know if it is because i am using hdmi now instead of vga
[20:37] <faugusztin> danes123: i mean you are missing the username and password for that mount
[20:37] <danes123> faugusztin: how can I access anonymously?
[20:37] <ubuntu-studio> hols
[20:38] <ubuntu-studio> hola
[20:38] <faugusztin> danes123: what OS is on the other side ?
[20:38] <PatrickDickey> danes123: Do you have to access it anonymously? If you're using cifs, you can specify the username and password in the mount command.
[20:38] <danes123> faugusztin: ubuntu server.
[20:38] <danes123> PatrickDickey: yes
[20:39] <ubuntu-studio> como puedo instalar todo el compiz en ubuntu stuidio
[20:39] <faugusztin> danes123: and does it work when you use GUI ? can you access it anonymously ?
[20:39] <danes123> faugusztin, PatrickDickey it works! I just added -o user=user
[20:39] <PatrickDickey> es | ubuntu-studio
[20:39] <PatrickDickey> !es | ubuntu-studio
[20:39] <GreatBacon> Danes, did u ensure you have permission to the share?
[20:39] <danes123> faugusztin, PatrickDickey thanks
[20:39] <danes123> GreatBacon: yeah. I think it works now
[20:50] <Xerofyte> I have some Issues with Display Drivers. Just checked the "dkms status" there are three drivers listed. how to remove the other two
[20:50] <r2d2__> Hi guys, I'm still a rookie with Linux, so I have a problem with Matlab. in the Ubuntu Software Center says that it does not provides Matlab, only configures it. My question is where can I find Matlab for Ubuntu (Xubuntu)?
[20:50] <superlou> if i'm trying to share a folder (with the guest viewing box checked), but when I try to open the shared folder in the file browser (on the sharing computer via Network -> Comp Name -> Folder), i get permission denied.  What would be the next debugging step?  I've already 'chmod -R 0777 /path/to/parent/of/shared/folder'
[20:50] <boxman> i guess it is back to windows for me then :( too bad that something as simple as vsync for video playback is broken beyond fix when it worked fine since 90s...
[20:51] <PatrickDickey> boxman: Have you tried the proprietary nvidia drivers? They might have something in their control center that deals with tearing. I know the ATI/AMD catalyst has that.
[20:52] <boxman> that is what i have been using, tried every suggestion but nothing is working....
[20:52] <PatrickDickey> !matlab | r2d2__
[20:53] <boxman> and cant do the compizconfig manager one since the refresh rate and sync to vblank option is missing under general options|displays
[20:53] <boxman> something that was there before i switched to a new tv/hdmi
[20:53] <boxman> same version and everything.. but now those features are gone
[20:53] <boxman> been wasting days on this issue already
[20:53] <lnxslck> r2d2__, and matlab is not free, you have to purchase it
[20:53] <boxman> and turning of composition completely makes it even worse...
[20:53] <PatrickDickey> boxman: could it be that your television doesn't support those features? I'll be honest and tell you that I'm guessing at this.
[20:54] <lnxslck> r2d2__, there's a free alternative named octave i think
[20:54] <boxman> it does.. it works fine under windows, and it should not be a tv specific feature..
[20:54] <boxman> the odd part is that i dont get tearing in unity, but any other window manager including gnome shell gives me tearing on video playback
[20:54] <boxman> but unity just isnt for me
[20:55] <boxman> it is really odd how those features just vanished from both 12.04 and 13.04 just after changing a tv set.. makes no sense :\
[20:55] <boxman> and no one else seems to be having this issue
[20:55] <Xerofyte> I have some Issues with Display Drivers. Just checked the "dkms status" there are three drivers listed. how to remove the other two? Anyone Please
[20:55] <r2d2__> @lnxslck thanks, i'll check octave too
[20:55] <boxman> i know that if i could tick that sync to vblank box it would solve those issues as it did in the past
[20:56] <boxman> how it should look: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5bdO0FMWXa8/TLCs6pNWAUI/AAAAAAAAAU8/YqJr_InnwXA/s1600/C:%5Cfakepath%5CCompizConfig+Settings+Manager_005.png
[20:56] <boxman> how mine looks: http://s24.postimg.org/u1r32iw9v/fucasdas.png
[20:56] <Ben64> have you tried the vsync checkbox in nvidia-settings
[20:56] <boxman> yep it is checked
[20:57] <Ben64> then you shouldn't be having any tearing, especially with videos
[20:57] <PatrickDickey> Xerofyte: For what it's worth, I have eight listings when I do dkms status.
[20:57] <boxman> and every other feature of compizconfig manager is there and working... just the refresh and vsync ones that are missing
[20:58] <PatrickDickey> Xerofyte: They are showing one for each kernel that I have installed, along with two for virtualbox.
[20:58] <boxman> i also notice that under displays that my tv shows up as a samsung 7" when it is 37"
[20:58] <boxman> but doubt that has anything to do with it
[20:58] <Xerofyte> PatrickDickey: I had some resolutions Issues yesterday. I installed a package I downloaded from nVidia. and Now the resolutions is even worse.
[20:58] <PatrickDickey> boxman: That could have something to do with it. Because it's not reading your television as the correct one.
[20:58] <Ben64> boxman: tvs usually have very strange edid
[20:59] <boxman> the native resolution and refresh rate is correct at least
[21:00] <boxman> i dont see how it will make those features vanish from compizconfig though
[21:00] <Ben64> how are you getting tearing from a video anyway? they should all be 24/25/30 fps
[21:01] <boxman> that is kind of a common problem.. so that does happen even with videos
[21:01] <Ben64> not really
[21:01] <boxman> internet is full of people having those issues... it is caused because of lack of vsync
[21:01] <Ben64> it happens in things with varying framerate, like games
[21:02] <boxman> and this is why i need those features in compizconfig manager as those usually fixes it
[21:02] <Ben64> unless you watch videos while dragging the video box around your screen, i don't see how its possible
[21:02] <Ben64> what player do you use
[21:02] <boxman> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/01/how-to-fix-video-tearing-in-videos-nvidia-ubuntu
[21:02] <boxman> it happens in any player
[21:03] <awesomesauce1414> hey, does anyone know how to install steam on ubuntu?
[21:03] <boxman> both in window and fullscreen
[21:03] <PatrickDickey> !steam
[21:03] <boxman> http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/9255/compizconfigsettingsman.png <---- this is what has fixed it for me before
[21:03] <boxman> but now  that refresh rate slider and sync to vblank tick box is missing entirely
[21:03] <awesomesauce1414> ok, thanks!
[21:04] <Ben64> boxman: so what player do you use
[21:04] <boxman> tried most of them.. like vlc, totem and mplayer
[21:04] <boxman> they all do the same
[21:05] <boxman> tried different video output drivers in vlc as well
[21:05] <Ben64> use mplayer2 with vdpau
[21:05] <Marlenee> any tools for record what happen on programme running on my screen  and send it this log to my mail ?
[21:06] <bekks> Marlenee: Write a script that runs some action, record stuff to a log and send that log to your mail.
[21:07] <Xerofyte> Can someone please tell me how to remove ".config/monitors.xml"
[21:08] <bekks> Xerofyte: delete that file if you really want to do that.
[21:08] <awesomesauce1414> steam doesnt show up in the software center, any fixes?
[21:08] <k1l> Xerofyte: i would suggest you rename that file to monitors.xml.backup in first place. so you could get that file back if it doesn help to delete/rename it
[21:08] <usc911> hey, anyone know how I can downgrade from apache 2.4 to 2.2?
[21:08] <Xerofyte> bekks: Where would this file be? I am using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64Bit
[21:09] <PatrickDickey> awesomesauce: Off chance, did you check the wiki about installing Steam?
[21:09] <awesomesauce1414> Yes i am there right now
[21:09] <k1l> Xerofyte: .config is a folder in your home folder
[21:10] <Xerofyte> k1l,  Thanks :D and bekks: thanks
[21:10] <loki__> how i can using command line get last user activity time?
[21:10] <k1l> Xerofyte: with full path it would be /home/USER/.config.monitors.xml     /home/USER could be shortened with ~/.config/monitors.xml
[21:11] <bekks> loki__: Basically, you cant.
[21:11] <PatrickDickey> awesomesauce I would say go to the link provided (the one that says "Valve" and install that. You can install it using dpkg -i name.deb (where name.deb is the file that you download from them).
[21:12] <PatrickDickey> awesomesauce1414: I should clarify, it's sudo dpkg -i
[21:12] <awesomesauce1414> ok thanks, i'll try that
[21:13] <awesomesauce1414> tyler@tyler-Presario-CQ62-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo dpkg -i steam.deb [sudo] password for tyler:  Selecting previously unselected package steam-launcher. (Reading database ... 161363 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking steam-launcher (from steam.deb) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of steam-launcher:  steam-launcher depends on curl; however:   Package curl is not installed.  steam-launcher d
[21:13] <Ben64> awesomesauce1414: in the future, use a pastebin
[21:13] <PatrickDickey> awesomesauce1414: sudo apt-get install curl will fix that.
[21:14] <awesomesauce1414> Ok thanks, didn't know about pastebin and i'll try the update
[21:15] <loki__> bekks, want take idle time of desktop, now i just compaer mouse position :D
[21:24] <skinux> I downloaded XChat source from repository, but /usr/local/src only has a single header file. I'm assuming that is only meant for plugin dev, so where is the rest of the source?
[21:24] <moses> how do i make a new user account using commands only
[21:24] <reisio> skinux: where'd you extract the source to?
[21:25] <moses> im on a shell
[21:25] <moses> where do i go to learn how to do this?
[21:25] <reisio> moses: an admin account?
[21:25] <superlou> Ok, so I can share folders that are on my system drive, but shared folders from my mounted RAID array give permission denied?  Does ubuntu store it's sharing configuration outside smb.conf?
[21:25] <moses> no just a user account
[21:25] <reisio> moses: what does 'groups moses' say?
[21:26] <skinux> I didn't provide a location. It placed the header file in /usr/local/src by default probably.
[21:26] <PatrickDickey> !serverguide | moses
[21:26] <PatrickDickey> That will have the command line methods for adding users and groups.
[21:26] <Ponch0> Hello ubuntu, I updated gnome from 3.8, I'm now on 3.9 how do I jump to 310?
[21:29] <moses> how do i view users on the computers
[21:30] <reisio> moses: egrep '^users' /etc/group
[21:30] <cjwelborn> when the latest installer says "Erase Ubuntu 12.10 and reinstall", what it really means is "Erase EVERYTHING on /dev/sda, including the Windows partition, so basically your laptop contains nothing, not even a working ubuntu installation".
[21:31] <reisio> cjwelborn: bummer
[21:31] <reisio> moses: what I usually do is useradd -m newUserName
[21:31] <reisio> moses: then use gpasswd to put the new user into groups
[21:31] <reisio> moses: then passwd newUserName to set a pass
[21:32] <reisio> moses: you can see your own user's groups with 'groups youruser'
[21:32] <reisio> moses: likely you'd want all the same groups, except for the administrator one
[21:32] <moses> yeah shes not on the group
[21:32] <reisio> on what group?
[21:43] <moses> rlh groups
[21:43] <moses> moses groups
[21:43] <reisio> ?
[21:43] <moses> what group should i put her under
[21:43] <Xerofyte> Can anyone please tell me how can I remove this DKMS "nvidia, 304.88, 3.8.0-31-generic, x86_64: installed"
[21:44] <reisio> moses: as I said, probably want all the same groups your user has, except for the administrator group
[21:44] <reisio> moses: what are your groups?
[21:44] <moses> how do i view groups?
[21:44] <reisio> moses: groups moses
[21:46] <moses> how do i add groups?
[21:46] <moses> to a user
[21:47] <reisio> moses: gpasswd
[21:47] <moses> what
[21:47] <reisio> that's how
[21:48] <override> help
[21:49] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | override
[21:50] <override> new to this what is this for
[21:50] <SchrodingersScat> !#ubuntu | override
[21:50] <SchrodingersScat> override: support channel for that
[21:51] <override> hacktheplanet
[21:52] <reisio> :p
[21:52] <override> ?
[21:55] <Sik> Hi, the character map font changed for some reason and apparently the font list refuses to scroll (meaning the font I want is waaaaaaaaaay off screen). Does anybody know of an alternate way to change the font?
[21:57] <override> wtf is this\
[21:57] <override> how did i get here
[21:57] <qin> override: /quit
[21:57] <bprompt> override:    we're wondering the same :S
[21:58] <override> quit ?
[21:59] <Sik> Well, that was definitely random
[21:59] <qin> Always thought that's bots channel, now looks like it's shared with loons, override you are on Ubuntu support channel, do you have any questions you wanted to ask?
[22:00] <override> questions about what
[22:00] <override> dont know what i am suppose to ask
[22:00] <k1l_> override: please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support
[22:00] <k1l_> !guidelines | override
[22:01] <override> how do i use ubuntu what is ubuntu
[22:02]  * Sik turns off the Mega Drive (those who are into demoscene know what I mean)
[22:02] <qin> override: Pretty much same as you using Linux now
[22:03] <l_r> hello
[22:03] <l_r> is flashplayer part of ubuntu repos?
[22:03] <l_r> does it have to be downlaoded from a website?
[22:03] <qin> !flash | l_r
[22:04] <override> im running something called kali linux
[22:05] <k1l_> !kali | override
[22:05] <qin> override: /j #kali-linux
[22:05] <l_r> thanks
[22:05] <l_r> another question is
[22:06] <zykotick9> z302: everything will look "unthemed".  there are other alternatives, that might not be so "minimal".  best of luck.
[22:06] <l_r> is there a way via link to a browser to make a stupid user install a given software? suppose you have a stupid friend who does not understand anything about linux and you suggest him to install a software he needs
[22:06] <l_r> *link to website
[22:07] <gulag2013> c
[22:08] <mikerose357> regarding minimal window managers/light desktop environments i3 is good
[22:08] <l_r> this would be a nice feature
[22:08] <mikerose357> you could get him to give you access to his computer and just install from the command line
[22:09] <l_r> basically you define a protocol   like   as fot the string  "deb://software", then you click on it and the broweser opens the software center asking for the installation of the mentioned software
[22:10] <mikerose357> coudln't you just give him the name and have him open up software center and type the name?
[22:10] <l_r> mikerose357, he is really stupid
[22:10] <mikerose357> thats fairly user friendly
[22:10] <l_r> but what about my idea
[22:10] <l_r> isn't it nicer?
[22:10] <mikerose357> what you are describing would be an excellent way to spread malware
[22:10] <gulag2013> I'm almost sure Firefox gives you that option when you download a .deb. I remember it asking to open with software center.
[22:10] <l_r> you follow a tutorial just by clicking on the links
[22:11] <l_r> mikerose357, why malware? i am talking about getting the software via the center
[22:11] <l_r> the link just opens the software center
[22:11] <bekks> l_r: Thats not nice, since you dont even learn on how to properly install software the ubuntu way :) Its not windows where you just click to install software.
[22:11] <mikerose357> teaching people to click on links and install software would seem to be dumb
[22:12] <l_r> this is a thing that already happens
[22:12] <mikerose357> my suggestion get him some condoms so the next generation of users wont include his dna
[22:12] <l_r> if you download a deb ,then debi opens it for you
[22:13] <l_r> i am talking about extending this via a well defined protocol which opens the center only
[22:13] <mikerose357> but there is a ubuntu package for damn near everything
[22:13] <bekks> l_r: It doesnt, here. right click, save as ...
[22:13] <blazeme8> no
[22:13] <bekks> l_r: Why not learning on how to install software without a webbrowser?
[22:14] <OerHeks> l_r,  "deb://software" does exist > "apt://clementine"
[22:15] <OerHeks> found @ https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/clementine/
[22:15] <l_r> bekks, because people sometimes do not know how to make a good search or what to put in the search bar. think of flashplayer ...   my friend asked me "how do i see videos on youtube"   , now i could tell him the right name of the package. but what if he was alone?   he cannot guess the name of the package, he might not even know what "flash player" is
[22:16] <mikerose357> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptURL
[22:16] <loki__> what is command for gnome image viewer
[22:16] <loki__> i remeber that it is "edo"
[22:16] <loki__> or something like this
[22:16] <l_r> Defaultti, oh,let me see
[22:17] <loki__> it is eog
[22:17] <qin> loki__: eye of gnome ;)
[22:17] <loki__> ye
[22:19] <l_r> OerHeks, i cannot find it
[22:19] <bprompt> l_r:    that's expectable of users
[22:19] <l_r> OerHeks, what are you talking about?
[22:19] <l_r> OerHeks, can you give me a link?
[22:20] <bprompt> hmm clementine is a music organizer and player
[22:20] <OerHeks> l_r, it is the url behind the button "available on softwarecenter"
[22:20] <skinux> Which forums are best for troubleshooting audio/video issues?
[22:20] <Xerofyte> Where is the "etc" directory? is it in "Home/user" directory or somewhere else.?
[22:21] <qin> Xerofyte: /etc what do you want there?
[22:21] <Xerofyte> X11
[22:21] <bprompt> Xerofyte:   root
[22:21] <Xerofyte> qin: I want X11 directory
[22:22] <qin> Xerofyte: cd /etc/X11/; ls
[22:22] <Xerofyte> qin: my PWD is "Home/User" now.. should I "cd /etc/X11/; ls" form there?
[22:23] <gordonjcp> Xerofyte: why do you want /etc/X11 ?
[22:23] <gordonjcp> Xerofyte: what exactly are you trying to do?
[22:23] <Xerofyte> becaue I need to change nvidia settings to xorg.conf
[22:25] <Xerofyte> gordonjcp: I want to "mv xorg.conf.nvidia-xconfig-original xorg.conf"
[22:25]  * Xerofyte is actually facing some Resolution Issues.
[22:26] <bey0tch> howdy
[22:26] <bprompt> howdy padner
[22:27] <qin> Xerofyte: first you will back up xorg.conf right?
[22:27] <Xerofyte> qin: Sure
[22:27]  * Xerofyte got it
[22:28] <bey0tch> i just installed nvidia-313-updates on my machine and now im stick after rebooting. grub menu doesnt show up, the only thing i see is some blinking cursor. i even tried alt+f2ing to uninstall it 'without being able to look at the console'.... didnt work out :P what now padnerz
[22:31] <bey0tch> i mean what the sh** happened here?
[22:31] <ikonia> bey0tch: control the language please.
[22:32] <michaelrose> bey0tch, you should have some sort of rescue mode available do you not?
[22:33] <bey0tch> michaelrose: how do i access that with no grub menu showing up?
[22:33] <zykotick9> bey0tch: try HOLDING shift after bios, and see if grub shows up
[22:33] <qin> bey0tch: Did you press shift on boot?
[22:33] <michaelrose> I mean like boot from the disk?
[22:34] <bey0tch> oh i thought grub shows up by default since it did that before on my machine
[22:34] <bey0tch> so rescue mode gonna heal my system? :X
[22:35] <gulag2013> It should recreate the grub.
[22:35] <bey0tch> like not loading nvidia modules which dont seem to work at all
[22:35] <bey0tch> alright ill give it a try
[22:35] <bey0tch> see ya laterz alligaterz
[22:35] <bey0tch> gotta reboot
[22:35] <bey0tch> :)
[22:36] <MonkeyDust> in a while, crocodile
[22:38] <gulag2013> Opinions on the best to command to locate files across all directories, specifically the commands for programs?
[22:39] <ikonia> find ?
[22:39] <ikonia> nautilus
[22:40] <biggc> hello all, i'm somewhat of a newbie to ubuntu studio 12.10 and just wanted to get pointed in the right direction to making my computer more protected?
[22:40] <zykotick9> gulag2013: if the program is in your path "whereis foo" is fast
[22:40] <ikonia> protected from what ?
[22:41] <el3ktra> hey there, any suggestions on debugging an external taht won't mount?
[22:41] <ikonia> el3ktra: read the error message ?
[22:41] <biggc> cyber attacks?
[22:41] <ikonia> biggc: don't put it online ?
[22:41] <ikonia> biggc: just apply common sense using your machine
[22:42] <el3ktra> should be in /media right?
[22:42] <zykotick9> z302: nice, glad you found something you liked.
[22:42] <el3ktra> is there a logfile that monitorrs mounts?
[22:42] <ikonia> el3ktra: it can be where ever you want
[22:42] <ikonia> el3ktra: mount it manually to get good output
[22:42] <beyaoutch> yeh, uninstalling nvidia-313-updates did the job
[22:42] <biggc> well, make it less "open" if im saying it right?
[22:42] <beyaoutch> now what do you recommend for me?. i want nvidia-drivers fo sho.
[22:42] <ikonia> biggc: you'll be fine as long as you just apply common sense to what you do
[22:43] <el3ktra> ikonia how do I do that?  Just tell me the command I will man the rest...
[22:43] <ikonia> el3ktra: mount
[22:44] <beyaoutch> should i just try installing nvidia-current-updates and reboot or whut?
[22:45] <biggc> thanx, i also wanted to know if there were somewhere i could put ubuntu onto a dvd and load it on a playstation2 if i have the ps2linux dvd to set it up as a standalone unit?
[22:48] <eduardo> join channel
[22:49] <reisio> #channel is the best place to be
[22:49] <eduardo> list
[22:50] <michaelrose> wait did you actaully type out fo sho on irc
[22:50] <michaelrose> die
[22:50] <quantals> what would someone say would be a good image viewer?
[22:51] <michaelrose> eye of gnome for gnome gwenview for kde
[22:51] <quantals> thanks
[22:51] <michaelrose> or do you want a photo manager like shotwell or the like
[22:53] <el3ktra> here is my fstab: http://tny.cz/c0c424de
[22:53] <michaelrose> basically apps like shotwell or digikam allow you to organize your photos, sort them perform operations on a group
[22:53] <michaelrose> upload to social media etc
[22:53] <el3ktra> I also get this line
[22:53] <el3ktra> in lsusb: ok this is interesting: Bus 001 Device 009: ID 0928:8000 Oxford Semiconductor, Ltd
[22:54] <ikonia> el3ktra: try to mount it manually as I said earlier
[22:54] <el3ktra> I feel like a dorko, but I am not sure how to do that :P
[22:55] <ikonia> el3ktra: you use the mount command
[22:55] <quantals> eog will work thanks ..awesome
[22:55] <ikonia> el3ktra: that fstab looks very odd, /usr/local as it's own partition, floppy drive ?
[22:56] <borfast> hi everyone. I'm trying to install libevent-dev to work with gunicorn + gevent but I'm getting an error from apt-get, saying that libevent-dev depends on libevent 2.0.16-stable-1 but 2.0.19-stable-3 is to be installed. I've been searching for a solution for this everywhere but I can't find it. anyone has any idea of what I can do?
[22:56] <el3ktra> I am not sure what to put after "mount"
[22:56] <ikonia> borfast: sounds like you got a ppa installed
[22:57] <ikonia> el3ktra: you said you where going to read the man page, so I didn't provide any more info
[22:57] <el3ktra> yes, ok, now I am asking for more info :)
[22:57] <ikonia> did you read the man page ?
[22:58] <el3ktra> I am right now, but I can't figure out what my device is
[22:58] <ikonia> el3ktra: sudo fdisk -l
[22:58] <ikonia> that should show you the disks
[22:58] <el3ktra> yes, that just shows all the mounts on my internal
[22:58] <ikonia> it doesn't show any mounts
[22:59] <ikonia> it shows disks and partition - nothing to do with mounts
[22:59] <gulag2013> You need that info to mount. Say /dev/sda6 example
[23:00] <el3ktra> OK, that is what I am asking.  Is there a way to figure out the name of the usb that I wnt to mount?
[23:00] <el3ktra> It is not listed in fdisk
[23:00] <ikonia> el3ktra: how big is the disk
[23:00] <el3ktra> 250G
[23:00] <ikonia> then if it's not listed in sudo fdisk -l the OS can't see it
[23:01] <el3ktra> ok!  So is there a log file or somethign that could help me detemrine why the os can't see it?
[23:01] <ikonia>  el3ktra can you please pastebin the output of the command "sudo fdisk -l" please
[23:01] <ikonia> (use a pastebin, not the channel)
[23:02] <borfast> ikonia, I have a few ppa's, yes, namely nginx, which I need but at the same time suspect is the culprit. any ideas to solve it without removing the ppa?
[23:02] <gulag2013> Exactly, look for an NTFS file system to the far right that should narrow the search to only a few options.
[23:02] <el3ktra> here it the fdisk output: http://tny.cz/44a6352f
[23:03] <ikonia> borfast: it sounds negative, but not using such poorly designed PPA's is the real answer, more so as nginx is already in the ubuntu repos, however, you could look at package pinning - but I suspect you won't be able to resolve it with that
[23:03] <ikonia> el3ktra: ok, so that only shows the one disk, check the syslog in /var/log/syslog
[23:03] <el3ktra> I also notived that the DVD drive isn't working weither, if that helps
[23:05] <borfast> ikonia, I agree that not using the ppa would be best. I used it because I needed an up to date nginx, which ubuntu didn't have. I guess I'll have to find a way.
[23:05] <el3ktra> I think that we are getting somethere.  From /var/log/syslog: bus: 1, device: 11 was not an MTP device
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> mtp devices are like android phones and music players
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> el3ktra:  if fdisk, or sudo blkid, dosent show the device. then either theres  some module that needs to be loaded for the device for the kernel to se eit.. or the device is  not being detected at all by the system
[23:09] <genoobie> hey anyone use clonezilla?
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> genoobie:  lots of people do.,
[23:09] <cathode> hey guys i've got an ubuntu 12.04 LTS system that i need to connect to via MS remote desktop protocol (attaching a thin client that only supports RDP), i found xrdp but it doesnt seem to support sound
[23:09] <cathode> and I need sounds
[23:09] <genoobie> first, how do I turn off away and join msgs in xchat
[23:09] <cathode> what else can i run that works as a RDP server ?
[23:09] <bangbro> hi
[23:10] <AcidRain2012> ok. i have a set of files. roughly about 200,000. and in 1 text file i have the current name of the file and the new name on each line. just like this: "oldname.mp4 - newname.mp4" is there a 1 liner i can use to change the names of all of these files?
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> genoobie:  for part/joins (mentioned in the xchat faq/docs) theres a right-click menu item when you click on a channel tab
[23:10] <bangbro> no matter which version of nvidia-drivers i install it says the driver is activated but not in use
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain2012:  'qmv' works in a fashion almost identical to that.
[23:10] <MonkeyDust> AcidRain2012  you'd need a 'for - in' script, but better ask in #bash
[23:10] <bangbro> what can i do to make it use the driver?
[23:10] <genoobie> Dr_Willis, thank you
[23:11] <Jordan_U> el3ktra: Is this a normal external hard drive or is it a phone or some other type of device?
[23:11] <el3ktra> nope just a normal external
[23:11] <AcidRain2012> MonkeyDust, Dr_Willis thx
[23:11] <el3ktra> here is what I get on firewire: firewire_core 0000:06:05.0: giving up on node ffc1: reading config rom failed: bus reset
[23:11] <el3ktra> firewire_core 0000:06:05.0: giving up on node ffc0: reading config rom failed: busy
[23:11] <genoobie> Dr_Willis, I have installed two OSes and trimmed a third
[23:11] <genoobie> I'd like to make an image for each and do a little experimenting
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain2012:  qmv is a powerfull tool I only use a small fraction of its powar. ;) it basically lets you get a list of files in a texdt editor. (or not) you then alter. then save/quit and it does all the renameing
[23:12] <genoobie> so I want a one click re-install
[23:12] <genoobie> would you suggest clonezilla?
[23:12] <el3ktra> still nothign on fdisk or blkid
[23:12] <AcidRain2012> Dr_Willis, oh cool thx man
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> genoobie:  id suggest checking the clonezilla docs/channel.  I dont use the app.
[23:12] <genoobie> use another?
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> i rarely make image backups of my systems.
[23:12] <AcidRain2012> Dr_Willis, not sure i want to rename all these files yet though :)
[23:12] <AcidRain2012> thx for the help
[23:12] <Jordan_U> el3ktra: Firewire support has historically not been great in GNU/Linux. Can you connect the drive via USB?
[23:13] <el3ktra> no, it's the same drive
[23:13] <el3ktra> the external has two ports
[23:13] <el3ktra> I tried the usb, not I am tryign firewire
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> firewire - :) such a neat idea. that never really took off.
[23:14] <Jordan_U> el3ktra: Stick with the USB connection for now. Can you connect via USB and pastebin the output of "lsusb"?
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> I still have some usb+firewire hds - not tried the FW part in linux in ages.  I can concur. firewire support was never that well supported. Not even in windows.
[23:14] <genoobie> okay.
[23:14] <bprompt_> el3ktra:    what are you connecting again?
[23:14] <el3ktra> here are all the syslog outputs that I have found while tryign this relatecd to the drive: Sep 29 16:01:12 arkham kernel: [101373.410377] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, device number 10
[23:14] <el3ktra> Sep 29 16:01:35 arkham kernel: [101395.956043] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 11 using ehci_hcd
[23:14] <el3ktra> Sep 29 16:01:35 arkham kernel: [101396.088416] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0928, idProduct=8000
[23:14] <el3ktra> Sep 29 16:01:35 arkham kernel: [101396.088425] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0
[23:14] <el3ktra> Sep 29 16:01:35 arkham mtp-probe: checking bus 1, device 11: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-1"
[23:14] <FloodBot1> el3ktra: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:14] <el3ktra> Sep 29 16:01:35 arkham mtp-probe: bus: 1, device: 11 was not an MTP device
[23:14] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | el3ktra
[23:16] <el3ktra> lsusb: http://tny.cz/5d74d222
[23:16] <bprompt_> el3ktra:    what are you connecting again?
[23:16] <el3ktra> usb drive, external
[23:16] <bprompt_> el3ktra:     how big is it?
[23:16] <el3ktra> 250G
[23:17] <el3ktra> fyi, in lsusb, the Bus 001 (Exford Semiconductor) goes away when I unplug
[23:17] <bprompt_> el3ktra:    sounds as if your usb port isn't giving enough voltage to the drive
[23:18] <el3ktra> Hm
[23:18] <el3ktra> so it is a pwoer issue?  That woudl make sense
[23:18] <bprompt_> el3ktra:    tried yet using a external-powered usb-hub?
[23:18] <el3ktra> it is externally powered, but there is only one powerplug in my room, maybe I should try to connect directly to the wall?
[23:18] <bprompt_> el3ktra:    external hd's use more voltage than other smaller usb devices
[23:18] <el3ktra> It is on a powerstrip that has a lot plugged in it
[23:20] <bprompt_> el3ktra:      well, what I meant was to provide an external power cable to it, yes, either by a plug in the enclosure if any, or by using a powered-usb hub, a hub that uses an AC cable
[23:21] <gulag2013> I have the usb cables that split into two male usb's on on end. For extra power. Are you using one like that?
[23:25] <bodom> Hi there! I'm unable to start LibreOffice Base, may someone help me?
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> bodom:  run it from terminal. look for error messages
[23:27] <bodom> Dr_Willis: no errors
[23:28] <bodom> Dr_Willis: http://pastebin.com/5VHaue64
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> im on a console only raspberry pi. :) cant look at pastes. of course I dont use Libreoffice either.
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> but others might be able to help better
[23:30] <bodom> Dr_Willis: ty anyway, good luck for obtaining a real PC someday :D
[23:31] <bprompt_> bodom:    what do you get if you try to run "loffice" at the terminal?
[23:31] <bodom> bprompt_: nothing
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> bodom, You change libreoffice in any way, say added a ppa?
[23:33] <AcidRain2012> how do i mount /dev/sdi
[23:33] <bodom> wilee-nilee: no
[23:33] <AcidRain2012> mount: can't find /dev/sdi in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab.  im not asking it to look in any of these locations for anything
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> bodom, what does uname -a produce
[23:34] <AcidRain2012> sudo mount /dev/sdi doesnt work
[23:34] <bodom> bprompt_, wilee-nilee: i think I've found the problem. If i have calc opened, I can't start base or "loffice"
[23:34] <downbeam> hello room
[23:34] <IRQ256> hi
[23:34] <bodom> AcidRain2012: man mount
[23:34] <nisstyre> AcidRain2012: you didn't specify a mount point
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> AcidRain2012, sudo mount /dev/sdi /mnt I think it is
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> bodom:  i replaced a real pc with the pi. ;)_
[23:34] <downbeam> ok so i have a web cam but i dont know how to allow  websites to acess it
[23:34] <downbeam> ???????
[23:35] <AcidRain2012> wilee-nilee, since when do u HAVE to specify a mount point?
[23:35] <nisstyre> AcidRain2012: mount doesn't know where to mount sdi
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain2012:  sdi would be a whole drive.  sdi1 would be a partion on the drive
[23:35] <nisstyre> also yeah it's probably the whole drive
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> true needs a partition
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> downbeam:  you mean in Flash?  you have to allow it in the flash settings I recall.
[23:35] <nisstyre> is the drive unpartitioned?
[23:35] <AcidRain2012> well your right, it mounted fine when i specified a mount point.
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain2012:  youve had to specify a mount point for ever.. UNLESS the mount is defined in /etc/fstab
[23:36] <nisstyre> Dr_Willis: and in that case mount -a works well enough
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> and the mountpoint has to exist befor you do the mount.
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> nisstyre:  unless it has 'noauto' as an option. ;P
[23:36] <nisstyre> Dr_Willis: true
[23:37] <AcidRain2012> i think i corrupted my usb drive. says read only file system
[23:37] <AcidRain2012> i have used it in the past 2 days to transfer over 200GiG of data
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain2012:  or more likely.. its a ntfs/vfat thats mounted  where users cant write to it.
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain2012:  what filesystem is it?
[23:37] <AcidRain2012> W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[23:38] <AcidRain2012> Dr_Willis, but the thing is, in the past 2 days or so, or even in the past. i havent had this issue
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> see what options 'mount' says for the mountpoint
[23:38] <AcidRain2012> wwhy did it start doing this?
[23:38] <nisstyre> AcidRain2012: do you have the drive in your fstab?
[23:38] <nisstyre> I'm guessing you do
[23:38] <AcidRain2012> nisstyre, this drive has never been in my fstab. and i lose them so quickly i just buy more
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> how were you mounting it in the past. how did you mount it now. ;)  differnt options can affect what users can access the drive
[23:38] <nisstyre> and I'm guessing you don't have it using a UUID?
[23:38] <nisstyre> oh ok
[23:38] <gulag2013> You should just create a new folder in /media directory. Name it flashdrive or whatever
[23:39] <AcidRain2012> Dr_Willis, in the past, to mount. i plugged it in. and added/deleted files.
[23:39] <downbeam> Dr_Willis, how do i get to flash settings?
[23:39] <AcidRain2012> today, i did that. JUST NOW i did that, and it says read only file s ystem
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain2012:  so the Desktop was auto-mounting it for you. You just mounted it by hand. with differnt options
[23:39] <nisstyre> AcidRain2012: what filesystem is on the drive? How is it partitioned?
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> downbeam:  right click in a flash player window i recall.
[23:40] <AcidRain2012> Dr_Willis, when the Desktop tried to auto mount it this time. it did that to me
[23:40] <bprompt_> downbeam:    run "flash-player-properties"
[23:40] <nisstyre> AcidRain2012: paste output of "sudo blkid" to ideone.com
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> normally if a vfat/ntfs fs is curripted - the ntfs-3g drivers wont mount it.
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> if a linux ext2/3/4 is found to be getting currupted. it will warn, or kick it into read-only mode as a failsafe
[23:40] <downbeam> bprompt_, where do i type that in?
[23:40] <AcidRain2012> Dr_Willis, full story here: i plug it in. it mounts, i delete/add. NEVER have i mounted this drive. it always auto mounts. today, i plug drive in. it auto mounts as read only. sudo cannot change permissions on this drive
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain2012:  you dont chown/chmod a ntfs/vfat -  you use the proper mount options.
[23:41] <bprompt_> downbeam:     at the Run box, run command
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> bodom, I guess if it were me I would remove the .config libreoffice first then maybe purge it and reinstall, but I'm not much of a trouble shooter in general.
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain2012:  i would be letting windows check that drive for errors soon.
[23:41] <nisstyre> AcidRain2012: you should get something similar to this http://ideone.com/9TvKjO
[23:42] <AcidRain2012> Dr_Willis, its no biggy man. its an 8GiG drive. ive got 10more right here beside me :P
[23:42]  * AcidRain2012 throws this drive in the trash
[23:42] <nisstyre> except with different drives and filesystems
[23:42] <mkrell> sup
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain2012:  be sure to properly 'safely remove/unmount' the things befor you unplug themn also.
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> even under windows, - use their safely remove menu item thing.
[23:42] <AcidRain2012> Dr_Willis, does that actually matteR?
[23:42] <nisstyre> AcidRain2012: it prevents unwritten data from not being written
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain2012:  it exists for a reason.. so YES YES YES
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> and a YES
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> </font blink? YES! </blink>
[23:43] <AcidRain2012> nisstyre, so it ONLY prevents unwritten data from not being saved?
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[23:43] <nisstyre> AcidRain2012: there may be buffered data in memory not yet written to the drive
[23:43] <nisstyre> AcidRain2012: it probably prevents other bugs too
[23:43] <nisstyre> that's the most obvious one though
[23:43] <AcidRain2012> hmmm...
[23:43] <downbeam> we dont have a run box in ubuntu bprompt_
[23:44] <AcidRain2012> nisstyre, perhaps thats what just happened to it. i unplugged it like that. ive only had like 3 fail on me my entire life.
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> Ive noticed gnome/nautilys cache like several MB of data  when copying files to a USB.   then the usb catches up
[23:44] <nisstyre> AcidRain2012: ok then you could run a fsck on it
[23:44] <bprompt_> downbeam: ... no run box?    ahemm... ok... then run it at the terminal
[23:44] <nisstyre> AcidRain2012: it may just be that the filesystem has errors
[23:45] <downbeam> ok what do i type verbatim in the term?
[23:45] <AcidRain2012> nisstyre, i plugged it back into my winxp comp. turns out the there is a "read only" option that got checked somehow. :)
[23:45] <AcidRain2012> nisstyre, kinda disappointed that the mighty sudo couldnt fix this
[23:45] <bprompt_> downbeam:     flash-player-properties
[23:45] <nisstyre> AcidRain2012: ok so it is ntfs and you messed it up
[23:46] <nisstyre> AcidRain2012: mount can't magically fix stupid filesystems :)
[23:46] <AcidRain2012> nisstyre, lol. i already stated it was ntfs :P
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain2012:  if the fs is curriupted it mounts it read only as a Failsafe feature
[23:46] <downbeam> said command not found bprompt_
[23:46] <AcidRain2012> nisstyre, yeah i saw that. told sudo to copy it, and it just laughed at me.
[23:46] <nisstyre> AcidRain2012: you should've been able to copy data
[23:46] <AcidRain2012> Dr_Willis, oh rly now. well lets test it out real quick
[23:46] <nisstyre> you mean to the drive?
[23:47] <nisstyre> obviously if it's mounted read-only you can't copy data to it
[23:47] <bprompt_> [16:44] <AcidRain2012> W95 FAT32 (LBA)     <----
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain2012:  it can do it with ext2/3/4  on the fly.   if your linux partions get currupted. the kernel can kick them over to 'read only mode' and hopefully save the disks from getting more currupted
[23:48] <Dr_Willis> there are some tools in linux to 'forcecheck' the ntfs/vfat and flag them as 'ok' but thats a data loss risk. i cant recall the commands either.
[23:48] <Dr_Willis> i recall all the command does is make the drive 'think' its ok. it dosent actually check anything
[23:48] <nisstyre> AcidRain2012: I assume all you have to do is "uncheck" the box and it works?
[23:49] <AcidRain2012> nisstyre, no Dr_Willis is right. it appears to be corrupt. trashing it now
[23:49] <AcidRain2012> thats what 4$ gets u. lol
[23:49] <bprompt_> downbeam: .... hmmm.. I have ... one... myself
[23:49] <AcidRain2012> it remounted as read only
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain2012:  repation/reformat it. ;)
[23:49] <nisstyre> AcidRain2012: well I wouldn't expect anything good for a 4 dollar drive
[23:49] <bprompt_> downbeam:    is at /usr/bin/X11
[23:49] <nisstyre> reformat it and put a sane filesystem on it
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> use dd to zero it - and put ext2 on it. ;P
[23:50] <downbeam> what is? bprompt_
[23:50] <bprompt_> downbeam:     flash-player-properties
[23:52] <AcidRain2012> Dr_Willis, actually, without it even being plugged into winxp. i just got a message saying the disk was corrupted. its sitting in trash when i got this error. lol
[23:53] <bprompt_> AcidRain2012:   possibly because winxp had the telephatic drivers installed =P
[23:53] <Dr_Willis> AcidRain2012:  so zero it out and repartion.
[23:55] <AcidRain2012> New Hardware Found - Telepathic Drivers were automatically installed.
[23:55] <AcidRain2012> Device is ready for use.
[23:59] <ryanw> Hey hey. Are there plans for Ubuntu to support HiDPI?