[00:45] <Rallias> Never mind... the /29 labeled IPMI ONLY wasn't labeled in my documentation.
[02:59] <SpamapS> anybody on a mac notice that /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/* are no longer writable (for controlling fan speed) on saucy?
[08:35] <controversy> time and date disappeared
[08:35] <controversy> how do I make them appear
[08:38] <controversy> hello
[08:38] <controversy> time and date
[08:48] <alexwhitman> How do I disable certain smart scopes?  I can turn turn the filter on/off when searching but I want to completely disable them.
[11:14] <popolon> hi
[11:14] <popolon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-microcode/+bug/1194370
[11:15] <popolon> it looks like this version of intel-microcode pacakge needs a more recent version of initramfs to work
[11:16] <popolon> the problem is reported on a i386 architecture, but is also present in amd64
[11:21] <gajendra_> network file manager freezes in xubuntu 13.10
[13:32] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:35] <roflin> Heya guys I'm trying to upgrade from ubuntu 13.04 to the 13.10 final beta. But in the upgrade procedure it notifies me that it cannot calculate the upgrade path. But it doesn't tell me which packages are causing this problem. So I'm afraid I won't be able to make the switch even when it is released. Can i somehow get some more info about the cause of this error?
[15:35] <roflin> xpost from #ubuntu :>
[15:36] <BluesKaj> with which method are you upgrading, roflin ?
[15:36] <roflin> update-manager -d
[15:38] <k1l> try do-release-upgrade from terminal and see what errors come up
[15:39] <BluesKaj> roflin:  does sudo do-release-upgrade -d  , give the same notification? If so make sure any ppas are removed from /etc/apt/sources.list.d then sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-getupgrade in the terminal
[15:40] <roflin> will do
[15:41] <BluesKaj> correctio roflin  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade , in the terminal
[15:42] <BluesKaj> hmm time to clean this KB
[15:42] <roflin> owk do-release-upgrade -d gives the same error.
[15:42] <roflin> so i will try removing all third party ppa's now.
[15:42] <BluesKaj> did ou remove any ppas?
[15:42] <BluesKaj> you
[15:42] <roflin> not yet.
[15:43] <roflin> i first ran do-release-upgrade and now in your if so clause :>
[15:43] <roflin> and now i am*
[15:43] <k1l> what was the error?
[15:44] <roflin> "could not calculate upgrade"
[15:44] <k1l> can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> it cannot calculate the upgrade path
[15:45] <roflin> well i can but should i include  the .lists in my sources.list.d?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> ppas should be removed before upgrading to a new release
[15:48] <roflin> yesh but it does disable "third party ppa's" before trying to calculate the upgrade :>
[15:48] <roflin> or is this something else.
[15:48] <k1l> well show the sources.list if there is something wrong
[15:48] <k1l> !paste
[15:49] <roflin> kk
[15:50] <roflin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6176043/
[15:50] <roflin> my sources.list.
[15:51] <k1l> try to comment out the openprinting source.
[15:52] <k1l> (make a # in front of that line)
[15:54] <roflin> k1l: nope same error.
[15:54] <k1l> did you run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" before another try?
[15:55] <roflin> nope but doesn't update-manager -d do that for me?
[15:55] <roflin> reattempting anyway
[15:56] <roflin> with running an update && upgrade still the same error.
[15:56] <TJ-> roflin: what's the error (I just came in) ?
[15:57] <roflin> owk ill put it in a pastie :>
[15:57] <k1l> well lets see if apt still got something not settled right: grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log
[16:01] <roflin> owk grepping my apt.log for "Broken" returns nothing
[16:01] <roflin> ow wait...
[16:01] <roflin> whoops
[16:01] <roflin> ill paste its contents
[16:02] <roflin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6176083/
[16:02] <roflin> TJ-: my error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6176086/
[16:03] <TJ-> roflin: Are you using "do-release-upgrade -d" ?
[16:03] <k1l> well, that is alot of broken. i think you should remove the ppas with ppa-purge
[16:04] <k1l> that will remove the PPAs packages as well.
[16:04] <roflin> TJ-: to paste this error message yes but update-manager -d gives the same error in a gui
[16:05] <TJ-> roflin: OK, I missed the first pastebin ... what version is currently installed? have you checked the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to ensure it has the correct release in all stanzas?
[16:08] <roflin> TJ-: my sources.list has already been looked at and i am running 13.04
[16:08] <roflin> but it's probably the edgers/xorg ppa. that is killing me...
[16:09] <TJ-> roflin: is it pastebinned ?
[16:09] <roflin> the issue is i really need it as i have an optimus gt755 with an intel hd. So If i deinstall those packages it might not even boot :>
[16:09] <TJ-> I doubt that... some of those packages have no relationship to the Edgers PPA
[16:09] <roflin> yes it is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6176043/
[16:09] <roflin> there are some xserver-xorg-video.... etc etc.
[16:09] <TJ-> and have you done an abortive upgrade already? In other words, have some 13.10 packages already been installed?
[16:10] <roflin> no it won't let me.
[16:10] <roflin> and I havent forced the issue (by editing my sources.list in any way)
[16:10] <TJ-> OK.. I'm trying to identify why it's showing the package versions it is. I've dealt with several causes of this issue recently
[16:11] <roflin> owk that worrying and reassuring at the same time :)
[16:15] <TJ-> roflin: Lets do some diagnosing. "apt-cache policy texlive-base"
[16:16] <roflin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6176145/
[16:19] <TJ-> roflin: Archive update in progress. That's your problem. see http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[16:21] <TJ-> roflin: You can either wait for the DE archive to finish mirroring, or edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the "de.archive" and use the main archive ( "sudo sed -i '/s/de\.archive/archive/g' /etc/apt/sources.list"
[16:22] <roflin> yeah i can change that setting in the software sources settings :>
[16:22] <roflin> but tnxs
[16:23] <TJ-> When the updates are in progress the package lists and packages are out of sync
[16:23] <roflin> if putting that file there is a policy couldn't the error reporting be improved to reflect the real problem?
[16:24]  * TJ- nods
[16:25] <BluesKaj> the problem is auto updates in the package manager, I presume , TJ-
[16:25] <TJ-> Usually though, the updates are very short-lived. But the archives have been rebuilt for 13.10 so there's lots of packages being moved and it takes longer
[16:26] <TJ-> BluesKaj: I don't think the package manager is a fault - it simply is getting inconsistent package lists temporarily when it does "apt-get update"
[16:27] <BluesKaj> too many automatic helper daemons interfering with manual commands ..guess package managers shouldn't be allowed to default to auto updates
[16:36] <BluesKaj> Also IMO upgrading to a devel OS shuoldn't be done with a package manager anyway
[16:37] <TJ-> Why not? It uses the exact same plumbing in the background. What are you going to do, wget and "dpkg -i" everything ?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> the guis can be clunky and cause problems , before they call dpkg , I've encountered it myself
[16:42] <TJ-> Ahh, so you just mean GUI programs. Not package managers themselves. Apt is the package manager... the GUIs are just front-end fluff
[16:45] <roflin> TJ-: I still have the same issue. i am now using http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ though. I'll fetch my apt.log
[16:45] <TJ-> roflin: Hmmm!
[16:46] <BluesKaj> TJ-:  exactly
[16:47] <roflin> my apt.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6176259/ (grepped for broken)
[16:47] <roflin> i double checked the timestamp and its from my latest run
[16:47] <BluesKaj> TJ-:  yeah i should have been more specific about the guis
[16:47] <roflin> and the number of errors is the same 94 lines of broken packages.
[16:48] <BluesKaj> roflin:did you update/upgrade before trying the release-upgrade , i'm not clear on that
[16:54] <roflin> BluesKaj: yes I have.
[16:54] <TJ-> roflin: Have you done "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[16:54] <BluesKaj> yeah < I should have suggested that
[16:54] <roflin> not yet. but there are no heldback packages. (i noramally only do it when tere are)
[16:55] <BluesKaj> do it anyway
[16:55] <roflin> it does nothing (it outputs 0 upgraded 0newly installed ... etc etc.
[16:55] <roflin> )
[16:57] <roflin> tnxs guys for the help sofar, but I really need to go, supermarkets close in an hour and I'm hungry. I'll be back in around an hour or so.
[17:03] <trism> I often find it useful, pre-do-release-upgrade to fire up synaptic and look at the Origin tab, it will show you which packages are coming from ppas, and also which packages are locally installed, those are usually your problem areas
[19:26] <wastrel> hay ibus is buggy in 13.10
[19:31] <trism> wastrel: buggy how?
[19:32] <wastrel> it stops working in my terminal sometimes
[19:32] <wastrel> and also the pop-up is off the screen when my window is at the bottom of the screen
[19:32] <wastrel> because it shows up below the window
[19:32] <wastrel> also the key combination doesn't always activate it
[19:33] <wastrel> well, switch between inputs
[20:31] <johnjohn101> software center keeps crashing.  will this be fixed soon? i know it's already been reported
[21:16] <roflin> ow just to let you guys know, I kinda forced the issue, by deinstalling (and writing down) the conflicting packages and starting a upgrade. This resulted in the unfortunate situation that ubuntu-desktop could not be installed during the installation procedure. So i booted into a state with no gui or wifi drivers.
[21:16] <roflin> After plugging in a network cable and installing the xserver (one of the packages that conflicted) and rebooted it got my gui.
[21:16] <roflin> my wifi worked out of the box from that moment on.
[21:17] <roflin> then i ran a dpkg --configure -a and a apt-get install -f to " resume the upgrade". I now seem to have a working system again :)
[21:18] <roflin> even my optirun/primusrun still works.
[21:25] <TJ-> roflin: OUch!