[00:06] <foriamroot> is there an existing bug with the time on the "lock" screen not matching the system time?
[00:20] <nhaines> foriamroot: yup.
[00:20] <foriamroot> k
[01:49] <AmEv> Quick question: Is it possible to use a CM10 base instead of a CM10.1? For my Toshbia Thrive, WiFi doesn't work at all with the current CM10.1 build.
[02:38] <DJJeff> OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY TABLET WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unity Started And It F*CKING WORKS!!!!!!!!!!
[02:38] <DJJeff> http://i.imgur.com/kqFzRdI.png
[02:39] <DJJeff> The following extra packages will be installed: libunity-core-6.0-8 unity8 unity8-private
[02:39] <DJJeff> FIXED MY TABLET TY TY TY TY TY
[02:39] <DJJeff> wifi a bit slow :( but oh well im gonna youtube this shit now and show it off
[02:40] <duflu> DJJeff: What hardware?
[02:41] <DJJeff> 1st Gen Samsung Tab 10.1
[02:41] <DJJeff> (p4wifi) (P7510)
[02:42] <DJJeff> I also have a LG Nexus 4 but im not ready to put Ubuntu Touch on it yet
[02:53] <DJJeff> couple glitches here and there but oh well the damn thing turns on and works
[02:54] <DJJeff> just recorded a vid with my Nexus 4 will upload in a min
[03:06] <DJJeff> 5min till my video is uploaded :)
[03:14] <DJJeff> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izBSHlrAMfQ X_X my failed attempt at recording with sugar and coffee in my system
[03:15] <DJJeff> 3min in is where I show off the actual tablet
[05:59] <SuperLag> How long should this stage take, on a Nexus 4? --> INFO:phablet-flash:Waiting for install to finish on device. Please do not unplug device until phablet-flash finishes.
[06:01] <SuperLag> I'm just doing this for my very first time. No experience with Ubuntu Touch before. It's also my first time doing anything non-stock with an Android.
[06:01] <duflu> SuperLag: Several minutes at least
[06:05] <SuperLag> awesome
[06:05] <SuperLag> it just came up
[06:06] <SuperLag> I have no network SIM in this phone, and want to connect to wifi. I'm looking at the wifi settings, and I expect to be asked for a password... but that's not happening.
[06:07] <SuperLag> let me clarify that further... I expect to be presented with a password request, once I select my wifi ap from the list. I select my network, and no password request is coming.
[06:23] <ejat> SuperLag, mine was working fine with the wifi .. its prompt asking password
[07:29] <dholbach> good morning
[07:41] <ejat> morning
[08:31] <DJJeff> SuperLag, are you running ubuntu touch now?
[08:39] <nerochiaro> pete-woods1: good morning, do you know if the problem with the info from some apps not appearing in the infographics that Bill emailed about was sorted already ?
[08:41] <pete-woods1> nerochiaro: I'm not sure
[08:42] <pete-woods> nerochiaro: I helped them with some fixes, but bill didn't ask for any more help, so I kinda assumed they'd got it working
[08:44] <nerochiaro> pete-woods: i see. i'm finishing flashing today's image, let's see if it works ok. i'll poke you if it doesn't and can't figure out if anything is wrong in the apps themselves
[08:57] <didrocks> hey popey ;)
[08:58] <didrocks> popey: do you mind testing latest image (#70) and tell us if it looks good? we want to promote that one regarding AP results
[08:59] <Dentych> Hello. I'm very interested in Ubuntu for Android. What is the current status of it? Is it possible to be used on a Galaxy S4 for example?
[09:03] <DJJeff> 326 root      20   0 87392  51m 3660 R  99.5  7.1 288:13.28 NetworkManager
[09:04] <DJJeff> 02:02:56 up  5:17,  1 user,  load average: 1.08, 0.97, 0.97
[09:05] <DJJeff> I blame this crap: ubuntu-phablet ofonod[12629]: create_ril: can't connect to RILD: No such file or directory (2)
[09:06] <DJJeff> Dentych, there is a page somewhere with list of supported devices
[09:07] <DJJeff> Dentych, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[09:12] <om26er> didrocks, is video recording still expected to work before release ?
[09:13] <didrocks> om26er: I don't really know about that one TBH. I think first step is to get this media switch done, then, we can move along :)
[09:13] <didrocks> om26er: oh btw, do you have time for testing the image?
[09:13] <didrocks> seems popey isn't around
[09:13] <didrocks> that will help to know if we can promote it
[09:13] <om26er> didrocks, I am testing it I think
[09:13] <didrocks> om26er: is it good for publishing based on your dofgooding?
[09:13] <didrocks> dogfooding*
[09:14] <om26er> didrocks, whats in saucy-proposed seems to have problems, unity8 gets really slow when unlocking the screen. The last blessed image was less problematic
[09:15] <didrocks> Saviq: is it known? ^
[09:16] <didrocks> om26er: maguro or mako?
[09:16] <Saviq> didrocks, nope, just flashed devel-proposed and didn't see such?
[09:16] <didrocks> I don't as well for my little tests
[09:17] <om26er> didrocks, mako
[09:18] <om26er> Saviq, lock the screen for 10-15 minutes then pick the phone up
[09:18] <Saviq> om26er, k,
[09:18] <om26er> I have seen that issue during the whole weekend
[09:22] <om26er> there is one issue where unity8 would crash once, it will come back and after a few seconds everything will hang. The screen will become static
[09:23] <om26er> now the only remedy is to restart the phone. restarting unity8 does not change anything in that case..
[09:24] <DJJeff> SuperLag: This May Help http://i.imgur.com/ya2z2LW.png
[09:29] <marone> Hello. I have installed Ubuntu Touch on a Nexus 7, and now it isn't recognized by adb anymore. Is there a hidden developer option which I need to enable to have adb shell access to the device?
[09:33] <DJJeff> are you running Windows? or Linux?
[09:34] <DJJeff> if you are running Linux try $ lsusb and see if your device shows up
[09:39] <DJJeff> marone ?
[09:42] <Saviq> om26er, I just let it run for some time and works fine after unlocking - have started some apps now and will try again
[09:42] <Saviq> didrocks, ↑
[09:43] <didrocks> Saviq: same here
[09:43] <didrocks> (I let it locked as well)
[09:43] <didrocks> ogra_: please publish #70
[09:44] <didrocks> om26er: would be interesting to get more info on your issue so that Saviq can debug
[09:44] <om26er> didrocks, sure I am trying to reproduce
[09:44] <ogra_> didrocks, i need popwey (or someone else on the avengers list) to send the announcement
[09:44] <ogra_> *popey
[09:45] <didrocks> ogra_: well, popey doesn't seem to be around, so let's not block the publication on that? I can send it on ubuntu-phone at worst
[09:45] <didrocks> (or you can send it ;))
[09:53] <popey> ogra_: didrocks am now..
[09:53] <popey> ogra_: need a mail sending?
[09:54] <ogra_> popey, yep, 20130929/70
[09:54] <popey> ogra_: it's all tested okay? (I haven't as I'm doing other tests on my devices)
[09:54] <ogra_> yeah, all fine
[09:54] <popey> great, sending now
[09:55] <didrocks> \o/
[09:55] <ejat> \0/
[09:55] <MacSlow> nic-doffay, ping
[09:56] <ogra_> dpm, poke
[09:56] <dpm> hey
[09:57] <ogra_> dpm, so looking at the spreadsheet, in line 114 in the "landing asks" there is a line from you that refers to "landing plan 48" ... but i cant find it there
[09:58] <ogra_> do you know if that landed already of if that referral to landing plan is just wrong
[09:58] <ogra_> (landing no. 48 is surely something different)
[09:58] <dpm> ogra_, hm, I can't see it either. I didn't write that column (D), it might be best to ask didrocks
[09:59] <ogra_> well, he asked me to ask you :)
[09:59] <ogra_> so i assume it didnt land yet
[09:59] <dpm> ogra_, I don't think it's landed, as the merge proposal for the seeds change wasn't approved yet
[09:59] <didrocks> let's assume that it didn't land then
[09:59] <ogra_> yeah
[10:02] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:03] <pitti> didrocks, ogra_: what is the current blocker for the timezone stuff uploads?
[10:04] <didrocks> ogra_ is working on something I guess today for it
[10:04] <ogra_> pitti, working on landing it atm :)
[10:04] <pitti> ogra_: ah, prima!
[10:05] <nic-doffay> MacSlow, what's up
[10:05] <MacSlow> nic-doffay, some trouble with OptionSelectorDelegate...
[10:06] <MacSlow> nic-doffay, you may have seen the screencast on Friday with the mostly working wifi-selection...
[10:06] <nic-doffay> MacSlow, yeah
[10:06] <MacSlow> nic-doffay, but the checkmark for the selected delegate just doesn't show...
[10:07] <nic-doffay> MacSlow, could you refresh my memory and show me that screenshot again?
[10:07] <seb128> shrug
[10:07] <seb128> seems like my nexus went flat during the w.e again
[10:07] <seb128> do we still have a known issues where devices don't suspend as they should?
[10:08] <MacSlow> nic-doffay, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL3eqd-R4Ak ... as far as I can tell, it's because listView of the delegate is null for some reason... get lost of runtime-warnings
[10:10] <MacSlow> nic-doffay, but when I hard-code a list-model instead of loading at runtime the checkmark shows up as expected and listView isn't null
[10:12] <MacSlow> nic-doffay, the question now is... how to make the OptionSelectorDelegate also work correctly with the model being loaded/filled at runtime
[10:12] <nic-doffay> MacSlow, have you tried manually setting the ListView?
[10:12] <MacSlow> nic-doffay, it's marked as readonly so I didn't try
[10:13] <ogra_> seb128, Laney, selecting a new wallpaper gets be a balck background in the latest image
[10:13] <nic-doffay> MacSlow, could you try make it not readonly?
[10:13] <ogra_> *black
[10:14] <nic-doffay> I didn't really expect this use case
[10:14] <nic-doffay> which is why I market it readonly :/
[10:14] <nic-doffay> *marked
[10:14] <nic-doffay> monday
[10:14] <MacSlow> nic-doffay, I'll give it a try...
[10:16] <seb128> ogra_, I can't test, my device went flat again during the w.e, need to recharge
[10:16] <seb128> ogra_, but if there is an issue it's in content-hub, check with gusch
[10:17] <ogra_> seb128, well, not sure if it is content hub, the preview in the app is also black .... it works fine on mako, but not on maguro
[10:17] <ogra_> happens on both, surfaceflinger and Mir
[10:18] <seb128> ogra_, well, what you describe is either a toolkit issue to display image, or a content-hub issue (not returning the right image)
[10:19] <ogra_> right i dont think it is the latter (i cant imagine device specific bugs there)
[10:19] <MacSlow> nic-doffay, hm... not working...
[10:19] <ogra_> davmor2, could you check that on maguro ^^^ ?
[10:20] <MacSlow> nic-doffay, although I don't really know if I'm setting/binding the listView correctly
[10:21] <davmor2> ogra_: yeap I just need to grab some logs from the weekend before I do anything exciting :)
[10:21] <ogra_> okie
[10:22] <ogra_> (no hurry at all ...)
[10:24] <davmor2> ogra_: right current image or what I've been playing with over the weekend?
[10:24] <MacSlow> nic-doffay, making it not readonly doesn't seem to help...
[10:24] <ogra_> davmor2, current
[10:26] <nic-doffay> MacSlow, I'd query Saviq about it, not sure what QML is doing there. It's obviously not before the rest of the bindings. That's my first thought, thing is I'm not sure how to work around it.
[10:27] <MacSlow> nic-doffay, yeah... I guess I've seek out Saviq and/or mzanetti for this one
[10:29] <gusch> ogra_ seb128 so with latest image selecting a backgroudn works again, and the needed SDK change hopefully lands soon, sothe settings an unit8 can be adapted to fix the black wallpaper issue
[10:31] <ogra_> gusch, well, it works on one device but not the other, is that expected ?
[10:35] <gema> ogra_: what is the component that handles the updates?
[10:35] <pitti> ogra_: ah, thanks! want me to upload livecd-rootfs, lxc-android-config and systemd?
[10:35] <ogra_> which updates ?
[10:35] <gema> ogra_: I cannot make a full image upgrade from 20130919 to 20130929
[10:35] <gema> ogra_: the image won't download
[10:35] <davmor2> ogra_: right mid flash and then I'll test
[10:35] <ogra_> pitti, after android is done
[10:35] <pitti> ogra_: (in particular, the patched systemd will get along just fine if the new files aren't there yet, and cjwatson is waiting for that for an udev fix)
[10:35] <gema> ogra_: maybe I should just raise the bug against system settings
[10:35] <pitti> ogra_: ack, so after lunch
[10:36] <MacSlow> mzanetti, ping
[10:36] <ogra_> gema, probably because you missed the renaming of the channels, talk to stgraber, there was a transition (you should update more often ;) )
[10:36] <mzanetti> MacSlow: hi
[10:36] <gema> ogra_: I am testing full updates
[10:36] <ogra_> gema, yes, tha the old channel names were dropped
[10:36] <gema> ogra_: I update every day, everybody does, maybe that's the problem :)
[10:37] <gema> ogra_: ack, when was that?
[10:37] <ogra_> root@ubuntu-phablet:/# system-image-cli -i|grep channel
[10:37] <ogra_> channel: saucy-proposed
[10:37] <ogra_> gema, check that ^^^
[10:37] <gusch> ogra_: which device, what works?
[10:38] <ogra_> gema, i think around the 21rd it was fully dropped after a one week transition reriod or so
[10:38] <gema> ogra_: channel: stable
[10:38] <ogra_> gusch, on mako i can select a bg just fine, everything works as expected, on magur i get all black ... in the preview of the settings app as well as on the actual bg
[10:38] <gema> ogra_: I need to be in saucy-proposed for it to work, right?
[10:39] <ogra_> gema, no, if you had stable before you want "saucy" now
[10:39] <gusch> ogra_: expected, as on mako the max. texture size is big enough, in maguro it isn't
[10:39] <gema> ogra_: what image is the first one that is in the new channel?
[10:39] <ogra_> gusch, great,m thanks, i'll just wait for a fix then
[10:39] <ogra_> gema, no idea, i would have to dig up the announcement mail from ubuntu-phone
[10:40] <gema> ogra_: I can do that
[10:40] <popey> ogra_: stable and devel have gone now?
[10:40] <popey> no longer symlinks
[10:42]  * ogra_ digs for stgrabers mail to not spread nonsense
[10:42] <popey> hah
[10:42] <gema> ogra_: this one: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg04111.html?
[10:42] <popey> "System image channels rework landing on Monday"
[10:43] <popey> yes
[10:43] <ogra_> yeah
[10:43] <ogra_> ah so the ones dropped are daily and daily-proposed
[10:43] <popey> \o/
[10:43] <ogra_> then i supposed gema's issue isnt related to the channel renaming
[10:45] <gema> ogra_: I will raise it and let you and stgraber decide
[10:50] <gema> ogra_: bug 1233094
[10:50] <ogra_> yeah. assign to barry or stgraber
[10:51] <gema> ogra_: ok
[10:52] <dpm> hi tsdgeos, I think you worked on this - do you happen to know which branch tedg is referring to? -> https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calendar-app/1231136/+merge/188002
[10:52] <dpm> WebbyIT, ^
[10:53] <gema> stgraber: I gave you bug 1233094 as per ogra's instructions
[10:54] <tsdgeos> dpm: i don't know anything about that
[10:54] <tsdgeos> besides what ted says makes sense
[10:55] <dpm> ok, thanks tsdgeos
[10:55] <tsdgeos> i mean
[10:55] <tsdgeos> why would you launch the app all the time with qmlscene /usr/share/calendar-app/calendar.qml --new-event --starttime=%i --endtime=%i ?
[10:55] <tsdgeos> do i need to create a new event every time the app is launched?
[10:55] <WebbyIT> tsdgeos: arguments are not required
[10:55] <tsdgeos> well
[10:55] <tsdgeos> you are passing them
[10:55] <tsdgeos> all the time
[10:55] <dpm> that's clear, we're now just trying to find out the branch to reuse the functions
[10:55] <tsdgeos> if they are not required
[10:55] <tsdgeos> why are they there?
[10:57] <WebbyIT> tsdgeos: maybe I didn't understand how to implement them: can they invoke if they aren't write in calendar-app.desktop?
[10:57] <WebbyIT> *can they be invoked
[10:57] <tsdgeos> WebbyIT: i don't understand your question
[10:58] <tsdgeos> what is "they"?
[10:58] <WebbyIT> tsdgeos: I have to implement not required Arguments; Do I have to specify arguments in calendar-app.desktop?
[10:58] <tsdgeos> no
[10:58] <tsdgeos> you may want to read the desktop spec
[10:59] <tsdgeos> about what the Exec key means
[10:59] <tsdgeos> because adding stuff there
[10:59] <tsdgeos> without having any idea of what it does
[10:59] <tsdgeos> is not good
[10:59] <WebbyIT> tsdgeos: let's me search it
[10:59] <tsdgeos> http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html#recognized-keys
[11:00] <WebbyIT> tsdgeos: ok, thanks
[11:01] <xnox> lool: I envy your skills! thanks to you android emulator is now booting our kernel, mounting rootfs and running init. I've "rediscovered" patch in bug #524893 . Thanks a lot =)
[11:02] <xnox> ogra_: ^
[11:03] <ogra_> xnox, versatile ? didnt we drop that after lucid ?
[11:03] <xnox> ogra_: sure, but the bug is "stock ubuntu kernel + initramfs are too large, and qemu doesn't give it enough RAM space bump the constant to higher place" which is exactly the same bug I have been hitting with our kernel vs android kernel.
[11:04] <xnox> *thus bump the constant.
[11:04] <ogra_> oh. ok
[11:04] <ogra_> our initrd is below 8M though
[11:05] <xnox> to be honest above details are beyond me, but above one liner changes makes android's qemu boot our kernel and touch-initrd. I'm in a happy place.
[11:06] <ogra_> :)
[11:06] <ogra_> well, lool seems to have understood it at least :)
[11:11] <om26er> who develops powerd these days ?
[11:11] <om26er> my phone is in a state where pressing the power button does not turn off the screen. I would like to help debug
[11:11] <popey> there's a bug about that
[11:12] <ogra_> om26er, on Mir ?
[11:12] <popey> hmm, maybe not
[11:12] <om26er> ogra_, without
[11:12] <om26er> SF
[11:12] <ogra_> there were Mir issues ... but they were fixed
[11:13] <ogra_> om26er, sforshee owns it i think
[11:13] <om26er> I should switch to Mir, it seems cool kids are using it these days
[11:13] <ogra_> well, within the next two days we'll all be cool kids ;)
[11:13] <om26er> ogra_, I think I was told that powerd is now being developed by asac' team. Matt said that
[11:13] <ogra_> asa has no team ...
[11:13] <ogra_> *asac
[11:14] <ogra_> or "has all teams" as you want to put it :)
[11:14] <popey> We are all in asac's team. Hallelujah brother!
[11:14] <om26er> the statement was vague then
[11:14] <ogra_> well, all developers are at least :)
[11:14] <ogra_> a bit i'd say
[11:15] <didrocks> om26er: I think they mentionned phonefundation rather? so chicken's team
[11:16] <didrocks> (ChickenCutlass)
[11:16] <om26er> hmm.. I guess
[11:17]  * om26er had a million crashes in the weekends, now he can't reproduce any :/
[11:19] <WebbyIT> tsdgeos: so, I have to modify Exec entry in Exec=qmlscene /usr/share/calendar-app/calendar.qml %u
[11:19] <WebbyIT> tsdgeos: after that, how can I parse Arguments?
[11:20] <WebbyIT> tsdgeos: thanks in advance for your patience ;)
[11:20] <tsdgeos> how did you do it before?
[11:20] <tsdgeos> how changing the Exec lines changes how you have to parse Arguments?
[11:20] <WebbyIT> tsdgeos: I think doesn't chanke, but now it doesn't work
[11:21] <WebbyIT> tsdgeos: I added Arguments {...} in the app, and then check the value with args.values.name
[11:22] <tsdgeos> WebbyIT: what do you mean it doesn't work?
[11:22] <WebbyIT> tsdgeos: from a terminal, now with qmlscene /usr/share/calendar-app/calendar.qml --new-event args.values.newevent is false
[11:23] <WebbyIT> tsdgeos: with previously Exec entry, was true
[11:24] <tsdgeos> WebbyIT: to be honest i don't think you need %u there
[11:24] <tsdgeos> at most you'd need %U
[11:24] <tsdgeos> but since it's not urls you are passing
[11:24] <xnox> ogra_: well, now I have a bucket things to patch, propose merges and/or upload =))))
[11:24] <tsdgeos> i don't think you need anything at all
[11:24] <ogra_> yay
[11:24] <tsdgeos> and if you need there's something wrong somewhere
[11:24] <WebbyIT> tsdgeos: Tried also %U, but doesn't works, I'm going to try with nothing
[11:26] <WebbyIT> tsdgeos: also withi nothing args.values.newevent is false... :/ thanks for your support, I'll wait tedg
[11:28] <tsdgeos> ah, didn't see it was one of those apps that it's launched by qmlscene
[11:28] <tsdgeos> i wonder what's the rationale in us keeping suggesting that
[11:28] <tsdgeos> but oh well, don't listen to me :D
[11:30] <ogra_> pitti, android is building, upload at will :)
[11:30] <pitti> ogra_: yay, doing
[11:30] <tsdgeos> zsombi: is http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/mobile/qml-ubuntu-components0-arguments.html supposed to work on apps that are launched via qmlscene?
[11:31] <zsombi> tsdgeos: yes
[11:31] <tsdgeos> zsombi: ok
[11:32] <tsdgeos> zsombi: WebbyIT is having problems with it if you have some time may want to give him some pointers on what's needed
[11:36] <pitti> ogra_, Laney: lxc-android-config got auto-accepted, livecd-rootfs and systemd need u-release review
[11:38] <Laney> pitti: ok, will look
[11:39] <ogra_> pitti, uh, set -x will be quite noisy in livecd-rootfs
[11:40] <ogra_> (set -e should be sufficient next time ;) )
[11:41] <Laney> ogra_: does it look ok to you?
[11:41] <ogra_> yeah
[11:41] <cjwatson> pitti: Also could that perhaps be "ln -s writable/$f /etc/$f" to make it less confusing when mounting a filesystem from outside?
[11:41] <cjwatson> I see no reason that needs to be an absolute link
[11:42] <ogra_> wont break either atm though
[11:42] <davmor2> ogra_: ha camera app to gallery button doesn't work
[11:43] <ogra_> davmor2, confirmed
[11:43] <ogra_> file a bug if we dont have one yet
[11:45] <davmor2> ogra_: how are you activating the content picker?
[11:45] <ogra_> ?
[11:45] <ogra_> --verbose
[11:46] <davmor2> ogra_: isn't that the original issue you wanted me to look at
[11:46] <jibel> davmor2, gallery button is bug 1229291
[11:46] <davmor2> jibel: thanks
[11:46] <ogra_> davmor2, selecting a wallpaper was the original issue, but gusch confirmed there is a bgu open for this
[11:46] <ogra_> (not enough ram on maguro)
[11:46] <ogra_> *bug
[11:47] <davmor2> ogra_: oh nice yeap I can confirm it anyway :)
[11:47] <ogra_> :)
[11:47] <ogra_> works on mako
[11:49] <tsdgeos> ogra_: any clue why removing /etc/init/ssh.override doesn't work?
[11:49] <tsdgeos> i get a Device or resource busy even i have write access
[11:49] <ogra_> tsdgeos, yes, see the related discussion ion the phgone ML
[11:49] <ogra_> :P
[11:49] <cjwatson> tsdgeos: >/etc/init/ssh.override
[11:50] <cjwatson> (i.e. empty it rather than removing it)
[11:50] <tsdgeos> cjwatson: did that
[11:50] <ogra_> (in suppary you cant remove files on the ro imags. make it an empty file)
[11:50] <tsdgeos> didn't help
[11:50] <tsdgeos> i can reboot for the fifth time
[11:50] <tsdgeos> maybe it helps
[11:50] <ogra_> *summary
[11:50] <cjwatson> check /var/log/upstart/ssh.log then
[11:50] <ogra_> it helps if your nework is configured :)
[11:51] <tsdgeos> my network is configure
[11:52] <tsdgeos> and there's nothing in that log file
[11:52] <tsdgeos> there's not even a log file
[11:52] <tsdgeos> i'll keep trying after lunch
[11:53] <lool> xnox: oh cool, so that fixed the initramfs issue for you with emulator?
[11:55] <xnox> lool: yes =)
[11:55] <lool> awesome, I look forward to playing with the emulator images  :-)
[11:56] <xnox> lool: i also had to apply patch from bug #610742 to get to the initramfs bug first. ;-)
[11:56] <xnox> android at times feels obsolete.
[11:57] <pitti> ogra_, Laney: ah, can drop the set -x
[11:58] <pitti> cjwatson: ah, someone already accepted it, but I'll upload a followup
[11:58] <ogra_> neither was a blocker
[11:58] <cjwatson> indeed
[11:59] <pitti> ogra_: I was going to keep the set -x for the first image build, and drop it if/once it succeeds, sounds ok?
[11:59] <pitti> (just in case)
[12:00] <ogra_> cjwatson, hmm, seems tsdgeos is right, emptying the .override doesnt start ssh
[12:00] <SuperLag> wow. The look is impressive, but this install is horribly unresponsive.
[12:00]  * ogra_ wonders why it did when he tested it
[12:01] <cjwatson> does it work if you "start ssh" manually?
[12:01] <ogra_> yes
[12:01] <pitti> cjwatson: livecd-rootfs 2.191 uploaded with relative symlink
[12:01] <SuperLag> If I simply reissue the same command that I did to flash the Nexus 4 with its initial install, will that do a reinstall?
[12:01]  * cjwatson blames upstart
[12:01] <ogra_> it deosnt start either if i copy the ssh.conf over the .override
[12:01] <ogra_> which is weird
[12:01] <cjwatson> Not with any evidence or anything, but I can't see how it's openssh's fault ...
[12:02] <SuperLag> I want to try this again, before I arrive at any conclusions.
[12:02] <SuperLag> One issue, for example, I try to change the timezone, because the time is consistently stuck at UTC... and that screen doesn't respond to my touch
[12:04] <ogra_> thats not implemented yet
[12:04] <ogra_> should be ready tomorrow
[12:04] <SuperLag> ogra_: is that directed at me?
[12:04] <ogra_> yes
[12:05] <ogra_> jodh, around ?
[12:05] <SuperLag> Okay. Good to know. Is there a list of what has/has not been implemented?
[12:06] <zsombi> WebbyIt: so, what's up?
[12:09] <lool> xnox: interestingly, there seems to be a path forward to provide pselect in the bug
[12:13] <Laney> pitti: wasn't accepted, but will do now
[12:14] <pitti> Laney: it's a bit strange; it wasn't in unapproved any more, but I didn't get an accept or reject mail
[12:14] <pitti> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/+changelog
[12:14] <pitti> that now has 189 and 191, but not 190 !?
[12:14] <Laney> 30/09 13:14:38 -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected livecd-rootfs [source] (saucy-proposed) [2.190]
[12:15] <Laney> 30/09 13:14:39 -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (saucy-proposed) [2.191]
[12:15] <pitti> ah, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+queue?queue_state=4&queue_text=livecd-rootfs
[12:15] <pitti> it was rejected
[12:15] <ogra_> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/151916508/livecd-rootfs_2.189_2.191.diff.gz
[12:15] <ogra_> looks all fine
[12:15] <pitti> so perhaps cjwatson rejected it due to the absolute links, should be good now
[12:15] <Laney> yep
[12:15] <Laney> no, that was me
[12:15] <cjwatson> pitti: I didn't.
[12:17] <SuperLag> When the device is being flashed... should there be activity on the screen, or is it normal for the screen to stay dark until the process is complete?
[12:18] <ogra_> it should jump bacl and forth between fastboot and recovery mode and then finally boot into a session (note the boot takes quite long ~3min with black screen)
[12:21] <SuperLag> yeah, it's been at least twice that long... maybe three times that long... and the screen is black
[12:21] <ogra_> on what device is that ?
[12:21] <SuperLag> Nexus 4
[12:22] <SuperLag> and I just hit the lock button, and it rebooted
[12:22] <ogra_> well, i just installed todays image here
[12:22] <SuperLag> Google logo, and now back to black screen
[12:22] <ogra_> and it worked fine
[12:22] <SuperLag> I'm not disputing that it works, at all... it may very likely something I've done wrong
[12:23] <ogra_> well, there isnt much you can do wrong
[12:24] <ogra_> as long as you leave the usb plugged it should eventually finish
[12:24] <ogra_> whats the install command you used ?
[12:25] <SuperLag> phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel devel --no-backup
[12:25] <ogra_> yeah, that should just work
[12:27] <SuperLag> Yes. It's up
[12:28] <SuperLag> So, currently, under "Date and Time" you cannot make any changes? and that's forthcoming?
[12:28] <ogra_> yep, the fixes were just uploaded and will make it into the next image
[12:28] <ogra_> the next QTA update should bring them to you
[12:28] <ogra_> *OTA
[12:29] <SuperLag> I just got today's image, as well, I think... because when I reissued that command, it did some downloads
[12:30] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: regarding https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/more-robust-test-server/+merge/188019 all the tests pass on my device but jenkins doesn't seem to be very happy
[12:31] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: so i only comment-approved it
[12:31] <nerochiaro> om26er: did you sync up with esac to figure out why the autopilot tests for notes are too unreliable ?
[12:31] <nerochiaro> om26er: as we discussed last week
[12:31] <dholbach> ralsina, alecu: hey hey - which fixes need to land for the update manager app to work?
[12:32] <popey> are there tests on the update manager app? It just crashes on start for me
[12:32] <om26er> nerochiaro, oSoMoN proposed a fixed that made the situation much better, I spent a lot of hours trying to figure where I gave up that its a bug in the app
[12:33] <om26er> nerochiaro, is the problem still happening ?
[12:34] <SuperLag> ogra_: what kind of device(s) do you test with?
[12:34] <SuperLag> is the Nexus 4 a common one to use?
[12:35] <ogra_> SuperLag, Nexus4 and galaxy nerxus are the current devices we focus on
[12:35] <SuperLag> excellent
[12:36] <ralsina> popey: the tests are in the queue to land as well. Also the fix to the crash.
[12:36] <popey> sweet
[12:36] <ralsina> popey, dholbach: we found a new bug while testing it on friday, so we can land a partial fix now and a better one later
[12:37] <ralsina> partial as in "it will not crash but it will not find all your updates"
[12:37] <dholbach> ralsina, is that 1231389?
[12:38] <ralsina> dholbach: yes, that's the crash
[12:38] <jibel> om26er, I cannot reproduce bug 1227746 with 20130929 on mako, is it still an issue for you?
[12:39] <om26er> jibel, yeah, its probably fixed. ted knew about the issue so I think he must have fixed it.
[12:39] <om26er> jibel, you can close that one.
[12:39] <dholbach> thanks ralsina
[12:40] <jibel> om26er, good, in exchange I found bug 1233132
[12:41] <daker> oSoMoN: do you have any ColorPicker design ?
[12:42] <om26er> jibel, I think there must be a bug report for that already. It was like a common bug in Lexington
[12:42] <om26er> jibel, I can't reproduce it because it requires to have quite a few wireless networks available, I only have 2 right now
[12:43] <jibel> om26er, it is possible, but didn't find one, feel free to mark it as duplicate if you know the bug #
[12:44] <nerochiaro> om26er: you need to check with asac, he is the one that reported the problem in the first place
[12:44] <nerochiaro> om26er: so you think it's a bug in the app ? what was the fix that was suggested ?
[12:44] <om26er> nerochiaro, well he reported because he was told by someone of the issue, which is probably the CI team. since the failures are not happening anymore its fixed 90%
[12:45] <om26er> nerochiaro, asac is on vacation btw
[12:45] <nerochiaro> om26er: what do you mean fixed 90% ? what's the remaining 10% ?
[12:45] <om26er> nerochiaro, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1231745
[12:46] <om26er> nerochiaro, sometimes while I run the test like 2-3 times in a loop the app window would appear, it will have the note with an image in it but the UI is blocked (hanged) so autopilot tries to click a note and expand but fails
[12:47] <om26er> summary: since the UI is blocked, clicking on a note does nothing but autopilot expected it to be expanded. -- hence the test fails
[12:47] <nerochiaro> om26er: but why is it blocked ?
[12:48] <nerochiaro> om26er: and it is reproducible ?
[12:48] <ogra_> sergiusens, i know you worked on that before, did you get anywhere wrt running adbd as phablet  ?
[12:49] <om26er> nerochiaro, that's the bug :) hints are that when the image server in the autopilot tests is not ready and the app starts that causes the problem.
[12:49] <om26er> nerochiaro, its reproducible for me atleast on mako. though it does takes a few attempts
[12:49] <nerochiaro> om26er: but not on maguro ?
[12:49] <om26er> nerochiaro, no, no one say that issue on maguro, it was only failing on mako in the CI insfrastructure as well
[12:49] <sergiusens> ogra_, only research, I need to get back on that
[12:50] <ogra_> sergiusens, only if you find time, else hand what you have over to me, ChickenCutlass asked me to look into it
[12:50] <nerochiaro> om26er: ok, but it's a different one from https://bugs.launchpad.net/notes-app/+bug/1231745 - another bug should be filed for that problem
[12:50] <ogra_> (though i'm currently wrangling with ssh ... seems the planned way of enabling it doesnt actually work)
[12:51] <sergiusens> ogra_, through android properties you mean?
[12:51] <ogra_> sergiusens, by starting it from the user session
[12:51] <ogra_> sergiusens, (adbd now
[12:51] <ogra_> )
[12:52] <sergiusens> ogra_, ah
[12:52] <om26er> nerochiaro, its probably the same. Olivier's fix imroved the situation and now we see a "note" previously there was nothing in the UI as attached screenshot show *but* the app was frozen in that case as well
[12:52] <sergiusens> ogra_, it's a bit more complicated than that, the adb code is a bit picky
[12:52] <om26er> it now freezes a bit later and less often
[12:52] <ogra_> sergiusens, yeah, i know
[12:52] <sergiusens> ogra_, if you launch adb in 'user mode' you need to run with one of those hardcoded AIDs
[12:53] <ogra_> right so we need to swithc the hardcoding to one we have :)
[12:53] <ogra_> i.e. the phablet user one
[12:54] <sergiusens> ogra_, yeah, that's my first easy solution although I haven't tried it yet
[12:54] <ogra_> yep
[12:54] <ogra_> i'll look into that
[12:55] <ogra_> after i found out whats wrong with ssh
[12:55] <sergiusens> not sure what else would rise after that
[12:55] <sergiusens> ogra_, ack
[12:55]  * ogra_ doesnt really have an idea hwo to debug that ssh issue though 
[12:56] <ogra_> having jodh around to give a hand would really help :/
[12:56] <nerochiaro> om26er: i don't know if that's the case, but the bug is marked as fixed. and you're saying it's not fixed, it just made the situation better. so we either need to reopen the bug with a new explanation and steps to reproduce or open a new bug.
[12:56] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, fyi, couldn't help noticing that over the weekend my phone was switching to 3g when I was running around town :)
[12:56] <om26er> nerochiaro, a new bug is needed, yes
[12:57] <nerochiaro> om26er: can you please take care of it ? (stating that it happens only on mako, and giving steps to repro ?)
[12:57] <om26er> nerochiaro, ok, sure
[12:57] <nerochiaro> om26er: thank you
[12:57] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ^
[13:03] <jodh> ogra_, tsdgeos: I get the same behaviour. It's seemingly because that file is a mount point (look at /etc/fstab). One for stgraber maybe?
[13:03] <cjwatson> jodh: It's meant to be a mount point
[13:04] <cjwatson> jodh: That's in order to make it writable on an otherwise RO image
[13:05] <jodh> cjwatson: ok, well tsdgeos needs to unmount, delete and 'start ssh' then
[13:05] <cjwatson> Uh
[13:05] <tsdgeos> i can start ssh manually
[13:05] <tsdgeos> that works
[13:05] <cjwatson> That's not an acceptable path for this :)
[13:05] <tsdgeos> but i was expecting it was so easy
[13:05] <cjwatson> Why does Upstart break when it's a mount point?
[13:05] <tsdgeos> since there was a ubuntu-phone thread for it
[13:05] <tsdgeos> i was pointed to
[13:05] <tsdgeos> seems it may be not
[13:06] <cjwatson> jodh: The reason your solution isn't good enough is that it will only work when / is writable, and the entire point of this approach is to work when it's RO to support the SDK on read-only images
[13:06] <cjwatson> So we have to fix this, but not that way
[13:07] <ogra_> jodh, the rootfs is readonly, making it a bind mount to a rw space is the only way we have to make it writable
[13:08] <ogra_> jodh, we also cant just delete it
[13:08] <ogra_> (by design)
[13:08] <cjwatson> Oh, would "sudo initctl reload-configuration" work?
[13:08] <cjwatson> That would make sense ...
[13:08] <cjwatson> So ">/etc/init/ssh.override; sudo initctl reload-configuration"
[13:08] <ogra_> jodh, so the idea was to have "manual" in it by default and empty it (or copy over ssh.conf) to make it start automatically
[13:08] <Lunito> hi, i would like to try a recent build of ubuntu touch for maguro, is there one that is more recent then the one on the wiki?
[13:09] <cjwatson> Except that doesn't quite make sense, apparently it wasn't taking hold on reboot
[13:09] <cjwatson> So I guess Upstart isn't honouring override files on different mount points?
[13:09] <ogra_> and that worked with a real file when i tested it .. seems upstart ignores it due to the mount ?
[13:09] <ogra_> *snap*
[13:09] <ogra_> :)
[13:09] <cjwatson> (So sorry, ignore my "sudo initctl reload-configuration" comment, that's mostly a false path)
[13:10] <Lunito> and I'm curious, will I be able to output 1080p via MHL on maguro for things like browser and shell?
[13:11] <Lunito> perhaps I can have two displays, the builtin and the HDMI? does the hardware even support that?
[13:12] <ogra_> cjwatson, well with pitti's last changes we could perhaps handle upstart jobs similar to the TZ bits ... that should make the file removable (despite being a dangling symlink then)
[13:12] <cjwatson> ogra_: That depends on the exact reason this doesn't work right now
[13:12] <cjwatson> If it just stops traversing /etc/init/ at mount points, that would make no difference
[13:12] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: in the browser, when i tap and hold on an image i don't get a "copy" menu item anymore, just a "copy image URL" item. is that by design ?
[13:12] <pitti> ogra_: note that the new "synced" mode specifically doesn't work for removing files -- the initramfs will then copy back the original image version into /etc/writable/
[13:13] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: yes
[13:13] <ogra_> pitti, oh, right :(
[13:13] <cjwatson> ogra_: And in the case of the TZ bits there really is no alternative within POSIX file handling interfaces, whereas this sounds more like a bug in Upstart
[13:13] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok, for the record i think it's confusing for the user to have to use that to copy images to the notes, but if design wants it that way it's ok.
[13:14] <ogra_> cjwatson, agreed
[13:14] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: and i tested it with notes, and i can paste images contrary to what bug 1228375 says. can you confirm it please ?
[13:14] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: with today's image
[13:16] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: testing
[13:17] <lool> ricmm: around?
[13:17] <seb128> fginther, hey, do you know why https://code.launchpad.net/~charlesk/ubuntu-system-settings/bluetooth-pin/+merge/188104 is not being merged?
[13:18] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: how do you manage to paste anything in a note, I’m getting this bug where the copy/paste menu is all collapsed
[13:18] <lool> ricmm: there's a range of issues in Mir mode which I think all boil down to a feature which we're completing: 1) upstart-app-launch can't start apps without --desktop_file_hint on Mir,  2) music-app stops when put on the background on Mir,  3) can't change the volume in music-app on Mir (this might actually be something else)
[13:19] <lool> ricmm: it smells like this is all down to identifying which app is currently running, and I think this is in progress by someone in your team or you?  I guess it relates to bringing apps to the front too
[13:20] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i got a normal menu
[13:21] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: you’re not seeing https://bugs.launchpad.net/notes-app/+bug/1226990 ?
[13:23] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: haven't seen it yet
[13:24] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: let me play around with it some more with more or less notes on screen and see what happens
[13:24] <AskUbuntu> What kind of dock hardware will Ubuntu Touch use? | http://askubuntu.com/q/351856
[13:24] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: regarding pasting an image, I marked the bug invalid, I’m able to paste too
[13:24] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: ok great
[13:25] <Mirv> jhodapp|afk: FYI still getting https://bugs.launchpad.net/mediaplayer-app/+bug/1231418 test fail, although contact sil2100 if you suspect it's because of updated autopilot in the PPA and not a change in mediaplayer-app that could cause it. he's collecting a list of AP failures that may be related to the proposed newer autopilot version.
[13:25] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i managed to get the collapsed menu. looks horrible
[13:25] <sil2100> Mirv: removing AP from the PPA now
[13:25] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i mean it's not collapsed, the items are all overlapping each otehr
[13:25] <sil2100> Mirv: hopefully this time the stack got redeployed properly ;)
[13:26] <Mirv> sil2100: ok then...
[13:26] <fginther> seb128, one moment
[13:27] <seb128> fginther, thanks
[13:29] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: yeah, exactly, the items are overlapping
[13:30] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: can you please investigate this issue? I have a feeling the problem is with the UITK itself, but maybe it’s the notes-app that doesn’t use the popover correctly?
[13:32] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: is this good or bad? :)
[13:33] <daker> oSoMoN: do you have any ColorPicker design ?
[13:33] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, not sure how it could be bad :) it was meant as a compliment, network switching to 3g seems to be automatically fixed ;)
[13:34] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: I'm asking because I know there are still some things I need to fix :)
[13:34] <rickspencer3> cyphermox, ok
[13:34] <oSoMoN> daker: nope, I haven’t seen any
[13:34] <rickspencer3> but thanks for the fixes so far
[13:36] <cyphermox> rickspencer3: thanks for the feedback
[13:38] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i'll have a look
[13:40] <foriamroot> Having some issues if anyone wants to chime in: Nexus 4 current daily. After apt-get -y upgrade phone keeps dropping cellular connection and becoming non responsive. Tried to restart via terminal app (sudo reboot) and it halts at the Google logo (i.e. splash screen) and does not boot. Had to wipe data and reflash touch-armel and touch-armel. Any ideas?
[13:41] <foriamroot> Unable to pull a log file as I had to wipe to get it to boot.
[13:41] <foriamroot> EDIT: Had to reflash touch-armel and touch-armhf*
[13:42] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i have the same feeling, i'll check with the sdk guys
[13:45] <cwayne> kenvandine: ping
[13:47] <foriamroot> Did have an issue when upgrading about the touch module having an invalid version number and the module being excluded which resulted in an error in initramfs yesterday. Sent the pastebin link to Alan for analysis, however, I can not find the link right now.
[13:48] <kenvandine> cwayne, pong
[13:48] <cwayne> kenvandine: when are account-plugins-as-click-packages coming?  i assume after 13.10?
[13:48] <fginther> seb128, it's in the build quee
[13:49] <seb128> fginther, since friday? how come others got merged today before it?
[13:49] <fginther> seb128, since friday? hang on
[13:49] <seb128> fginther, well, ted approved it on friday
[13:50] <kenvandine> cwayne, i'm not sure, mardy ^^
[13:50] <fginther> seb128, hmmm, I see. I just scanned the queues and saw it there.
[13:50] <fginther> seb128, taking a second look
[13:50] <seb128> fginther, thanks
[13:50] <cwayne> kenvandine: even though one already exists, i've got a fitbit app that actually uses the online account, so it's kinda worhtless to try and release it until account-plugins can be added :)
[13:51] <mardy> cwayne: yes, after 13.10 (see also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/+bug/1219644 )
[13:52] <kenvandine> cwayne, indeed
[13:53] <daker> zsombi: do you plan making a ColorPicker too ?
[13:54] <nerochiaro> zsombi: do you know in which repo the component showcase for the sdk lives now ?
[13:54] <zsombi> daker: so far not
[13:54] <fginther> seb128, sorry about that, it's not merging because there is an open pre-requisite: https://code.launchpad.net/~charlesk/ubuntu-system-settings/show-when-bluetooth-is-scanning/+merge/187960
[13:54] <foriamroot> ls
[13:54] <seb128> fginther, oh, ok, thanks
[13:54] <zsombi> nerochiaro: afaik same as before...
[13:54] <seb128> tedg, ^ do you plan to review that one as well?
[13:55] <cwayne> pete-woods: heya, any idea on when libusermetrics is going to be landing?
[13:55] <nerochiaro> zsombi: oh, nevermind that. was being blind
[13:55] <zsombi> ;)
[13:55] <pete-woods> cwayne: I'll try and land it in the next day or two
[13:55] <zsombi> np
[13:55]  * tedg is confused
[13:55] <tedg> seb128, I'm pretty sure I did review that one...
[13:55] <tedg> Is there two?
[13:56] <seb128> tedg, yes
[13:56] <seb128> depending on each others
[13:56] <tedg> seb128, Oh, I did approve it.
[13:56] <tedg> Jenkins is unhappy
[13:57] <tedg> Eh, looks like a Jenkins hickup
[13:57] <ogra_> nah, cant be, we wouldnt build our infrastructure around something unreliable
[13:58] <tedg> seb128, Reapproved
[13:58] <tedg> ogra_, It's not unreliable, it just hasn't reached a consistent state yet.  Think of it as "big data".
[13:59] <foriamroot> Pulled this from the IRC logs from yesterday. Was the error I got after running apt-get -y upgrade: http://pastebin.com/jHEaQ61G
[14:00] <foriamroot> The entire conversation is located here: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/09/29/%23ubuntu-touch.html
[14:00] <foriamroot> @ around 1900 hours.
[14:01] <xnox> foriamroot: use dist-upgrade, upgrade doesn't know how to remove packages to upgrade to new abis.
[14:01] <foriamroot> Ahhhhhhh.
[14:01] <ogra_> tedg, once it reaches this state, does it rewrite itself in something sane automatically ... like non-java ?
[14:01] <seb128> tedg, thanks
[14:01] <tedg> ogra_, You'll enjoy the Erlang version.
[14:02] <ogra_> haha
[14:03] <foriamroot> For future reference is there a way to pull log files without a computer (I was out when it "crashed") for diagnostics purposes?
[14:08] <powermaniac> Hey
[14:09] <powermaniac> I was wondering if you guys know how to convert a debian .iso into a .bootimg and .img?
[14:11] <powermaniac> So that this guide then becomes compatible for debian also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation
[14:11] <ogra_> that wont work
[14:12] <powermaniac> ogra_: Okay I assume you can't make a .bootimg and .img out of a .iso then?
[14:12] <ogra_> .img is a totally undefined format
[14:13] <powermaniac> ogra_: All I know is they are using it in this wiki, have no idea what the actual file format is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation
[14:13] <ogra_> we have .img's that have partitions on them which resize themselves magically after being dd'ed to the target device, we have .img' images with self extracting tarballs etc etc
[14:13] <ogra_> (teh nexus7 uses the latter)
[14:14] <ogra_> these images are produced in a special way and not compatible to what you would find on an ubuntu iso (or debian one)
[14:14] <powermaniac> ogra_: Oh okay, atleast I've now found someone that knows about this
[14:15] <ogra_> to build the same thing for debian you would actually have to produce a debian img image like the above from scratch
[14:16] <SuperLag> Is configuring email accounts implemented yet?
[14:17] <nerochiaro> zsombi: when i use Action items inside an ActionsList inside an ActionsSelectionPopover i get a warning about setting Action.visible, and it tells me i should use ActionItems instead. But the showcase for popover still tells me to use Action. shouldn't that be fixed ?
[14:18] <zsombi> nerochiaro: yep, it should
[14:19] <davmor2> popey: should the alarm now work?
[14:21] <popey> davmor2: no
[14:24] <nerochiaro> zsombi: can using Action instead of ActionItem cause problems in the UI ? like the menu items overlapping with each other or the menu not being the right height ?
[14:25] <zsombi> nerochiaro: not sure, I haven't followed that path recently, timp was on it but he's away now
[14:26] <doanac> sergiusens: all the click pieces seem to be in place. however, i'm having trouble getting the application to launch. I'm just doing something simple with upstart now: initctl start application APP_ID=com.ubuntu.dropping-letters_dropping-letters_0.1.2.2
[14:26] <doanac> and that won't launch
[14:26] <nerochiaro> zsombi: i'm asking because i see this problem in the notes app and it wasn't doing that before. i will try to use ActionItem to see if it fix the problem. but If it doesn't that's something that needs to be investigated further
[14:26] <sergiusens> doanac, latest image?
[14:26] <doanac> sergiusens: yep
[14:26] <sergiusens> doanac, just flashed, let me test
[14:27] <zsombi> nerochiaro: agree
[14:27] <sergiusens> doanac, works on latest stable though
[14:27] <doanac> i'll grab that and try from there.
[14:28] <gema> barry: the problem was on N4
[14:28] <gema> barry: the upgrade bug
[14:28] <sergiusens> doanac, it just worked for me
[14:28] <doanac> hmm.
[14:28] <sergiusens> doanac, start application APP_ID=com.ubuntu.dropping-letters_dropping-letters_0.1.2.2 after sudo -i -u phablet
[14:28] <gema> barry: why are you testing N7?
[14:28] <sergiusens> doanac, I'm typing on irc and loosing the game :-P
[14:29] <sergiusens> doanac, check ~/.cache/upstart/application-click-com.ubuntu.dropping-letters_dropping-letters_0.1.2.2.log
[14:29] <doanac> sergiusens: let me reboot. that does nothing on my mako and I don't get anything interesting in the logs
[14:29] <barry> gema: because that's what i have? ;)
[14:29] <gema> barry: then you are not the person verifying this problem, right?
[14:29] <gema> barry: trying to recover my N4 from a disaster now
[14:30] <barry> gema: i suppose it could be a device related issue, but the recommendation still stands: we need to gather the log file to do any further debugging
[14:30] <gema> barry: ok, I will have to generate it again, because I am pretty sure anything that was in there is gone
[14:30] <gema> barry: by now it is probably -6 , not -5 :)
[14:31] <doanac> sergiusens: still fails. all i get in the upstart log is: ** (process:2286): ERROR **: Unable to submit Zeitgeist Event: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.zeitgeist.Engine was not provided by any .service files
[14:31] <doanac> i think that's unrelated
[14:31] <barry> gema: ah.  well, i can certainly reflash with -6 and see if it's reproducible on the n7.  i'd be a bit surprised if it's a device-specific issue
[14:31] <gema> barry: did you do an update that required to download the full image or did yours just require some upgrade files?
[14:31] <gema> barry: I had an update worth 216 MB
[14:31] <barry> gema: it did some deltas
[14:31] <sergiusens> doanac, can you do a bootstrap?
[14:31] <gema> barry: I was trying to trigger the "download a full new image"
[14:32] <gema> barry: but I am not sure if I did
[14:32] <gema> barry: the problem may well be in the UI
[14:32] <barry> gema: that can't be done through the ui, but it can be done through the -cli
[14:32] <doanac> sergiusens: i think that's the default way we provision a device. i'll double check everything though.
[14:32] <sergiusens> ogra_, can you remind me where the android images live?
[14:32] <gema> barry: if I go back enough and I tell the UI "download" and then install, what happens?
[14:33] <gema> barry: shouldn't that be handled automagically?
[14:33] <barry> gema: i'm not sure what the "that" is there.  what should be handled automatically?
[14:33] <gema> barry: the fact that you are trying to upgrade so much content that it is better to download a full image
[14:34] <gema> barry: I discussed this with slangasek back in the day and that is the expected behaviour
[14:34]  * cjwatson briefly tries dropping-letters on grouper.  Good grief it isn't half slow :-(
[14:34] <cjwatson> I really hope that isn't typical of UT games
[14:34] <gema> cjwatson: it gives you more time to think!
[14:34] <gema> be positive :D
[14:34] <sergiusens> beuno, btw, if xnox agrees, you can wipe his webapps; we are no picking up the 'com.ubuntu.developer.webapps' ones
[14:35] <cjwatson> gema: Well, except when it spends ages rendering the animation after you select a word, and then it catches up with dropping several letters at once
[14:35] <xnox> sergiusens: if the new ones work, go ahead.
[14:35] <gema> cjwatson: that's bad
[14:36] <barry> gema: there's a heuristic about how to decide what upgrade path to take.  the calculation is: +100 for every extra reboot, +1 for every 1MiB over the smallest path, distance the upgrade leaves you from the highest destination.  so, with the first and last being equal, it will favor the smallest download
[14:36] <barry> (tbh, i suppose we should question the "distance" score now because of the change in version numbering)
[14:36] <ogra_> sergiusens, ?? in the archive inside the android package
[14:36] <gema> barry: I am making a note of that and trying again whenever I get my phone working
[14:37] <cjwatson> Is the CI review in https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/friends-app/dh-python2/+merge/188338 a transient failure?
[14:37] <sergiusens> ogra_, I mean on the fs layout, looking for the android root ramdisk
[14:37] <gema> barry: let me know if you change the algorithm, plz
[14:37] <cjwatson> Can't see anything regarding my change there
[14:37] <barry> gema: ok.  i think i should add some additional logging to show the candidates and their scores
[14:37] <sergiusens> ogra_, I guess I can just check mount :-)
[14:37] <barry> gema: i doubt i will change it before 13.10, unless we identify an actual problem
[14:37] <ogra_> sergiusens, same place as before for unpacking (/var/lib/lxc/amdroid/) and /android for the running container i think
[14:37] <gema> barry: ack
[14:38] <gema> barry: is there a way to identify, automatically, how many images I need to go back to be able to trigger the full image upgrade?
[14:39] <sergiusens> ogra_, there we go, /android/system/boot/android-ramdisk.img ... thanks
[14:39] <ogra_> :)
[14:39] <gema> barry: how do you test it?
[14:39] <barry> gema: unfortunately no, you have to manually inspect the index.jsons.  it's possible that stgraber has a tool to help with that analysis
[14:40] <gema> stgraber: ^ do you?
[14:40] <sergiusens> ogra_, ah, forgot I it was easier just to replace system.img :-)
[14:41] <tedg> asac, lool, Hey guys, pete-woods is looking at the HUD issues and we're trying to get more data.  Is there a chance we could release HUD with this small change?  https://code.launchpad.net/~pete-woods/hud/environment-investigation/+merge/188349
[14:41] <stgraber> gema: there isn't, you indeed need something to parse the index.json, look at the size of the latest full image (total size by adding all the files), then try and go back as far as possible until you get a total required download size bigger than the full image
[14:41] <lool> tedg: asac is on leave
[14:42] <stgraber> gema: if all you're looking at doing is forcing the device to do a full image, you can also pass "-b 0" to system-image-cli which will force a full image
[14:42] <tedg> lool, No releases then?  :-)
[14:42] <lool> tedg: ping didrocks, I'm +1 on it
[14:42] <Saviq> om26er_, so... maybe the phone just does not wake up completely after going to low-power?
[14:42] <gema> stgraber: I want to do it like a user would, via the UI
[14:42] <tedg> didrocks, can haz release please?
[14:42] <Saviq> om26er_, and that's why it's slow?
[14:43] <om26er_> Saviq, yes I think that's the reason. The slowness till the time when you have screen touched, if you leave it for a few seconds it will become normal
[14:43] <om26er_> something bad in powerd is happening probably
[14:43] <Saviq> om26er_, yup, sounds like it
[14:44] <om26er_> It could be mako specific else others would have reported that. atleast Rick reported a similar issue from what I remember, don't know if anyone else faces the same problem as well.
[14:44] <didrocks> tedg: can you add it to the landing ask once merged?
[14:44] <didrocks> tedg: I'll get it asap then
[14:45] <tedg> didrocks, No, I can't.  I'm not important enough.
[14:45] <popey> tedg: you're important to me!
[14:46] <didrocks> tedg: ask your boss then! :p
[14:46] <tedg> popey, I was, now there's a CAH UK edition, I feel I've lost all my power.
[14:47] <popey> \o/
[14:47] <stgraber> gema: then it sounds like you guys will have to write some python ;)
[14:49] <cwayne> Saviq: anything from the Qt guys about that bug  by any chance? :)
[14:49] <Saviq> cwayne, which one?
[14:49] <Saviq> cwayne, the "empty scopes"?
[14:50] <cwayne> Saviq: yeah
[14:50] <Saviq> cwayne, they asked for a testcase which tsdgeos provided, should get some feedback soon, and we'll start getting this in tomorrow, unless they come up with a reason not to
[14:51] <cwayne> Saviq: awesome! thank you
[14:51] <tsdgeos> Saviq: also, the guy isn't really happy with the patch
[14:51] <tsdgeos> since it means loading some types twice
[14:51] <beuno> xnox, I can remove them, but I'd rather you unpublish them yourself   :)
[14:52] <tsdgeos> but i hope he doesn't suggest another of those "let's do it right" things
[14:52] <tsdgeos> which means "let's rewrite half of the stuff"
[14:52] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yeah, but did not come up with anything better?
[14:52] <tsdgeos> Saviq: nope
[14:52] <Saviq> tsdgeos, right
[14:52] <xnox> beuno: i'll unpublish them myself.
[14:53] <beuno> xnox, thanks  :)
[15:05] <Guest66755> hi
[15:05] <cwayne> hi
[15:05] <Guest66755> just did a phablet flash to a galaxy nexus...
[15:06] <Guest66755> Waiting for install to finish on device... how long should i wait?
[15:06] <cwayne> Guest66755: i've seen it take quite awhile
[15:07] <Guest66755> ok, i will wait for 10 minutes
[15:10] <popey> Guest66755: yeah, it takes ages on gnex
[15:10] <ogra_> a msall century
[15:10] <ogra_> *small
[15:10] <ogra_> (or two)
[15:11] <Guest66755> ok, it worked :) thx
[15:11] <Guest66755> so now testing ^^
[15:11] <popey> yay
[15:22] <Tassadar> hi, do I need to somehow enable adb on current daily images, is it not supported anymore or do I have broken USB cable?
[15:23] <ogra_> likely the latter
[15:23] <ogra_> adbd didnt change
[15:23] <Tassadar> yeah, the cable wasn't even connected to my ntb ^
[15:23]  * Tassadar has ntb hidden behind the monitor
[15:24] <mfisch> mhr3: do you have a work-around for the scopes not loading bug?
[15:24] <cwayne> mfisch: sounds like we expect to hear from Qt guys very soon about it
[15:25] <mfisch> cwayne: we need something by wednesday at the latest though, so I'd like a backup plan
[15:25] <mfisch> cwayne: who are "the qt guys"?
[15:25] <mhr3> tsdgeos, ^ see mfisch's q
[15:26] <cwayne> mfisch: see scrollback above with me/saviq/tsdgeos
[15:26] <mfisch> cwayne: ok
[15:27] <cwayne> mfisch: just wanna be 100% sure so doing it fresh
[15:27] <tsdgeos> mfisch: there is no backup plan other than "patch it in our Qt even if upstream disagrees"
[15:27] <tsdgeos> you can't fix it any other way than where the bug is
[15:27] <MacSlow> Saviq, all issues addressed... -> https://code.launchpad.net/~macslow/unity8/extended-snap-decisions-part1/+merge/187312/comments/430595
[15:29] <bfiller> tedg: how do I determine the id of a specific settings panel per: settings:///system/$(plugin)
[15:29] <bfiller> ubuntu-system-settings
[15:29] <bfiller> Open a specific settings panel in the settings app.
[15:29] <bfiller> tedg: like I want to open the accounts panel
[15:29] <sil2100> mardy: ping!
[15:30] <Saviq> MacSlow, k thanks
[15:30] <mfisch> tsdgeos: can you send me the patch you sent to the Qt guys?
[15:30] <mfisch> cwayne: ^
[15:30] <bfiller> seb128: ^^^ do you know how I get id of a specific settings panel?
[15:31] <tsdgeos> mfisch: it is written in the bug
[15:31] <tedg> bfiller, It's the plugin name.
[15:31] <mfisch> tsdgeos: yes, it is, sorry about that
[15:31] <bfiller> tedg: where is list of plugin names?
[15:31] <Guest66755> no data & no sim
[15:32] <tedg> bfiller, ls /usr/share/ubuntu/settings/system/*.settings
[15:34] <bfiller> tedg: thanks
[15:34] <boiko> larsu: hi :)
[15:35] <larsu> boiko: hey, how are you?
[15:35] <boiko> larsu: good thanks, and you?
[15:36] <larsu> very good as well, thanks
[15:36] <boiko> larsu: so, on Friday I was debugging one problem that some messages from the telephony service would not go into messaging-menu
[15:36] <larsu> uh oh
[15:36]  * larsu senses trouble
[15:37] <boiko> larsu: and after some investigation I noticed there are some errors appearing on the indicator-messages-service side
[15:37] <boiko> larsu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-messages/+bug/1229387
[15:38] <boiko> larsu: it is reporting a memory corruption somewhere, not sure what is causing that, but I managed to write a simple program that triggers this behavior very easily
[15:38] <larsu> boiko: ah, I've been hearing such reports, but couldn't reproduce yet. I found two possible memory corruptions already (fixes are in MRs right now). I'll try you test program in a bit
[15:39] <larsu> boiko: can you send it to me via email please? U1 seems to be down
[15:41] <boiko> larsu: great! thanks a lot!
[15:44] <larsu> boiko: did you miss my last message? (u1 is still down...)
[15:44] <cwayne> ogra_: heya, any idea when we can expect image 71?
[15:45] <boiko> larsu: oups, I missed that one, DSL hickup :)
[15:45] <ogra_> cwayne, after the landing meeting (which starts at the full hour) i guess
[15:45] <cwayne> ogra_: awesome, thanks
[15:45] <boiko> larsu: let me attach the program directly to the bug report
[15:45] <ogra_> depends what went through today
[15:45] <larsu> boiko: thanks!
[15:45] <ogra_> and whats still in flight to wait for
[15:46] <bfiller> kenvandine: ping
[15:46] <kenvandine> bfiller, pong
[15:46] <bfiller> kenvandine: regarding sharing with friends, we currently don't support sharing photos with twitter do we?
[15:47] <kenvandine> nope
[15:48] <bfiller> kenvandine: ack, we are going to remove it from gallery app per design and go directly to account settings or sharing and not display the menu
[15:48] <kenvandine> ok
[15:58] <jodh`> ogra: bind mounted Upstart jobs work if you use 'initctl reload-configuration'. However, haven't yet identified what is stopping this working in the touch env yet...
[15:58] <davmor2> tedg: is anyone on your team having issues with indicator date/time sometimes not being there on a reboot?
[15:59] <ogra_> jodh`, there might indeed be more involved
[16:00] <seb128> bfiller, what ted said
[16:00] <tedg> davmor2, Not sure if charles has gotten to it yet, he had it on a TODO at one point.
[16:02] <davmor2> tedg: ah no worries then, more a check it was known. As I get hit by it intermittently so thought I'd ask :)  THanks :)
[16:06] <Saviq> lool, confirmed, no volume under mir
[16:07] <mfisch> sergiusens: is there a manual test plan for images or just automated stuff?
[16:07] <Saviq> sergiusens, I'm getting the "protocol-error" quite often when phablet-flash tries to push backup to the phone (on different devices) - any idea how to fix?
[16:07] <Saviq> sergiusens, it probably shouldn't remove the backup file at least, then
[16:07] <om26er_> mfisch, hey! will you take a powerd issue today ? :)
[16:08] <om26er_> bug 1233257
[16:08] <lool> Saviq: thanks
[16:09] <Saviq> lool, got a bug#
[16:09] <Saviq> ?
[16:09] <lool> Saviq: it was in the chat, looking in my emails
[16:09] <Saviq> lool, ah bug #1233245
[16:09] <lool> yup
[16:10] <lool> barry: around?
[16:10] <barry> lool: yep
[16:10] <lool> barry: would you have an ETA for the system-image upload?
[16:10] <lool> barry: we're about to kick an image build, but we're thinking of you for the next one perhaps late tonight?
[16:11] <barry> lool: yes, i think that's a good idea.  it'll give me time to try to squeeze LP: #1221844 and LP: #1231628 into s-i 1.6
[16:11] <barry> lool: give me a cutoff time for uploading s-i
[16:12] <lool> barry: actually we'd rather include you now rather than include you with these two bugs
[16:12] <lool> barry: so 2 uploads preferred over one  :-)
[16:12] <lool> barry: don't think these two block us from switching right now, they are 13.10 goals though
[16:13] <barry> lool: gotcha.  i'd like to do a quick test on my device and then i'll tag and upload.  say 15-20m?
[16:13] <lool> awesome
[16:14] <NewUTouchUser> Hi. Is there a way to take TCP connection from Nexus 7 with Ubuntu Touch to a workstation through USB?
[16:16] <lool> barry: could you coordinate just before you upload?
[16:16] <lool> barry: in a hangout with landing team
[16:16] <barry> lool: sure, give me the url
[16:16] <lool> barry: we just need to decide whether we build one just before s-i inclusion, or whether we wait for it  :-)
[16:17] <barry> lool: either way is fine with me, but remember it's lunch time here :)
[16:17]  * barry hears weird grumblings
[16:19] <lool> barry: channel aliases tracking is just when the alias change what it points at, regular support for aliases will work?
[16:19] <lool> barry: I mean, aliases work today and will keep working?
[16:21] <barry> lool: well, there's no special support for aliases in the client at all right now, but to the extent it looks like a "regular channel" everything should Just Work
[16:21] <NewUTouchUser> Let's say that I can take TCP connections (e.g., SSH connections) from my workstation to my Nexus 7 through USB. Is this possible the other way around?
[16:21] <barry> lool: so i guess the answer to your question is "yes" :)
[16:25] <mfisch> mhr3: is there a way to make unity8 go back to the old way of doing launcher faves (gsettings)? I'm trying to debug a non-functional launcher fave
[16:26] <mhr3> mfisch, we no longer do gsettings for launcher? good to know :)
[16:26] <mhr3> Saviq, ^?
[16:26] <lool> barry: Cool
[16:26] <lool> barry: so we actually need to roll a bunch of images to allow your landing
[16:26] <popey> sergiusens: do we have a way to launch apps reliably from the command line ? running the aa-exec line isn't sufficient, nothing shows on the device
[16:27] <lool> barry: we'll roll an image in a few to include all latest bits we have including download-manager
[16:27] <mfisch> mhr3: it gets migrated to accounts-services
[16:27] <lool> barry: then we'll roll another image immediately after that one which will be the target image to upgrade to in our tests
[16:27] <lool> barry: the idea is to install our next image, 71, install system-image in it, then upgrade to 72 with it
[16:27] <mfisch> om26er_: that bug looks like sforshee may have some ideas on it. I am 100% not working on powerd anymore :(
[16:28] <lool> barry: if that passes, we can upload system-image and put it in 73
[16:28] <om26er_> mfisch, ok, I'll ping him :)
[16:28] <om26er_> sforshee, hello, incase you are wondering which bug bug 1233257
[16:29] <barry> lool: ok.  building a test package here now.  once that completes i'll put it on my device and do a test upgrade.  that works i can upload at any time
[16:29] <sforshee> om26er_: I don't think that has anything to do with powerd
[16:30] <NewUTouchUser> Hmm... If you don't know how I can take a connection from a Nexus 7 with Ubuntu Touch to my workstation through USB (at least the opposite is possible), then do you know where I could find this information?
[16:30] <lool> barry: perfect
[16:30] <sergiusens> popey, upstart, ... start application APP_ID=[app_id] ...
[16:30] <om26er_> sforshee, well that only happens after deep sleep. I am almost sure its not a problem in unity8
[16:30] <sergiusens> popey, you can get the app id from ls ~/.local/share/applications
[16:30] <popey> ah!
[16:30] <sergiusens> Saviq, noted, need to fix that
[16:30] <popey> desktop file name = app_id?
[16:30] <mhr3> mfisch, actually mzanetti would know better about launcher
[16:30] <popey> without .desktop
[16:31] <sergiusens> popey, sans the .desktop
[16:31] <popey> Suh-weet!
[16:31] <popey> thanks
[16:31] <sergiusens> popey, yup
[16:31] <sforshee> om26er_: all powerd does is switch suspend on or off. Once it's switched suspend off it doesn't do anything else later to make it even less suspended.
[16:31] <sergiusens> popey, logs when opened show up on ~/.cache/upstart/application-click-[app_id].log
[16:31] <om26er_> sforshee, is there a way i could turn off auto brightness and check if the problem happens again ?
[16:32] <sergiusens> mfisch, jfunk is your goto for manual test plan
[16:32] <lool> barry: would you upload a ~ppa1 snapshot of it to ~ubuntu-unity/daily-build PPA?
[16:32] <sforshee> om26er_: well I have a MR for powerd that would let you turn it on or off via powerd-cli, but it hasn't been merged yet
[16:32] <barry> lool sure, if it the local build completes
[16:32] <sforshee> om26er_: ChickenCutlass's team owns powerd now, I'm just helping with bug fixing
[16:33] <om26er_> sforshee, right, I'll wait for that
[16:33] <barry> or maybe *when* the local build completes
[16:34] <sforshee> om26er_: I don't know how soon they plan to merge it, the code has been sitting around for 2+ weeks now
[16:35] <om26er_> sforshee, ok. I switched to Mir a couple of minutes ago and the issue is not happening under Mir so maybe this bug may as well be suppressed with the switch
[16:35] <sforshee> om26er_: well that seems like confirmation that it isn't related to powerd
[16:42] <nerochiaro> gusch: here is the related MR for gallery app: https://code.launchpad.net/~amanzi-team/gallery-app/gallery-app-url-dispatcher/+merge/188390
[16:43] <gusch> nerochiaro: looking
[16:43] <nerochiaro> gusch: in my case i noticed a problem where more than a single instance of the camera app gets launched when switching, even if it's already running. it's a bug in the dispatcher though, so I think the MR should not be blocker because of that
[16:44] <nerochiaro> bfiller: do you know who is responsible for the dispatcher ? I think i have found a bug in it
[16:44] <bfiller> nerochiaro: tedg and loicm
[16:45] <bfiller> nerochiaro: I thought the single instance stuff has landed, so may in fact be a bug, tedg should know
[16:46] <tedg> bfiller, nerochiaro, still has Jenkins issues: https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/gallery-app/single-instance/+merge/186611
[16:46] <bfiller> arrrhhhhggggg!!!!!!!!
[16:46] <bfiller> fginther|lunch: ^^^^
[16:47] <tedg> https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/camera-app/single-instance/+merge/186608
[16:47] <tedg> https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/mediaplayer-app/single-instance/+merge/186615
[16:47] <tedg> Those are the three that seem left
[16:47] <bfiller> dis-continuous-integration
[16:48] <mfisch> jfunk: is there a manual phone test plan you can point me to?
[16:48] <om26er_> Saviq, btw facebook icon on the dash home does not open anything.
[16:49] <bfiller> tedg: just re-approved all three of these
[16:49] <tedg> bfiller, Cool, got my lucky rabbit's foot!  Let's go!
[16:50] <bfiller> so freakishly fed up with this
[16:50] <jfunk> mfisch, is there a specific area which you are interested in?
[16:50] <popey> sergiusens: (also dpm/mhall119) http://pad.ubuntu.com/click-move now has results of running all those click packages which downloaded/installed. (at the bottom)
[16:51] <jfunk> and elopio ^^
[16:52] <sergiusens> popey, hmm, funny that the three that failed are already preinstalled and that may be the reason they failed :-)
[16:52] <popey> i did remove the debs
[16:52] <popey> ah, no i didn
[16:52] <sergiusens> popey, sudoku, dropping letters and stock ticker aren't supposed to have debs
[16:52] <popey> oh okay
[16:53] <popey> ah, they're already clickified
[16:53] <sergiusens> popey, they are already click and already in the image by default
[16:53] <gusch> nerochiaro: I commented on your gallery MR
[16:53] <sergiusens> popey, grilo is supposed to be on the dev channel
[16:53] <popey> this is a clean install of todays image
[16:53] <popey> 70
[16:53] <sergiusens> popey, but still fail due to apparmor/grilo
[16:54] <popey> brb
[16:54] <jdstrand_> sergiusens: what are those failures?
[16:54] <mfisch> jfunk: pmed you
[16:55] <sergiusens> jdstrand_, for the music app? Access to the grilo db
[16:55] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i noticed that when i long tap on an image that is also a link in a web page i don't get any option to copy the image URL, just to copy the target URL. so there is practically speaking no way to copy these images
[16:56] <sergiusens> jdstrand_, but I though music was going to be shipped as a deb anyways due to all the other issues with it
[16:56] <barry> lool: local build and test on device looks good.  i just dput a ~ppa0 version to the ppa above.  i'd like to get some lunch, but let me know if/when i can upload s-i 1.6 to the archive.  i'm tagging and am ready to upload at any time
[16:56] <jdstrand_> sergiusens: I thought we decided the the music-app would not be confined?
[16:56] <jdstrand_> right
[16:56] <sergiusens> jdstrand_, I'm still building it for completeness
[16:56] <jdstrand_> it could be click-- it would just be "unconfined"
[16:56] <jdstrand_> (for now)
[16:56] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: good point, links are given priority, I guess this case is not handled, can you please file a bug?
[16:56] <nerochiaro> gusch: good suggestion. less code is always good
[16:56] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: yes
[16:57] <sergiusens> jdstrand_, let me switch it then to unconfined
[17:00] <lool> barry: thanks
[17:02] <nerochiaro> gusch: done. note that AlbumOverview didn't use onCameraStarted
[17:03] <barry> lool: 1.6-0ubuntu1 ready to upload.  should i do that now or get lunch?
[17:07] <barry> lool: i will get lunch now and watch the scrollback for upload approval
[17:07] <cjwatson> What does s-jenkins resolve to, for those for whom it resolves?
[17:08] <cjwatson> Never mind, just found https://wiki.canonical.com/ProductStrategyTeam/Quality/VPNInstructions?highlight=%28s-jenkins%29
[17:08] <cwayne> cjwatson: 10.97.2.10 i think
[17:08] <cwayne> ah, nm
[17:10] <cjwatson> Can somebody cause http://s-jenkins:8080/job/friends-app-ci/27/ to rebuild, or else give the 'cjwatson' account access to do so?
[17:12] <gusch> nerochiaro: approved
[17:12] <dpm> popey, oh, cool, thanks. Did you have the chance to see if any .mo files were installed as part of the core apps click packages?
[17:13] <popey> dpm: no, am re-installing anyway, and will check this time
[17:13] <popey> (promise) :D
[17:13] <dpm> popey, no worries, thanks!
[17:14] <popey> sergiusens: "devel images (not stable)" does that mean channel devel-proposed?
[17:15] <sergiusens> popey, yeah
[17:15] <sergiusens> popey, devel-proposed I thought was dead
[17:15] <popey> sergiusens: which do you suggest I install then? ☻
[17:15] <sergiusens> popey, ah, still there
[17:16] <lool> barry: please don't upload
[17:16] <popey> i thought devel would get it, but that just installed same as saucy
[17:16] <lool> barry: we need to do a bunch of image builds and we're delayed by testing of other bits
[17:17] <sergiusens> popey, I wouldn't worry too much about music app if it's just for that one
[17:18] <popey> ok
[17:19] <sergiusens> popey, I'll make it unconfined and get back to you
[17:20] <cjwatson> devel == saucy
[17:20] <cjwatson> Or should be
[17:21] <sergiusens> cjwatson, yes
[17:21] <sergiusens> as is stable, from the 'alias'es in https://system-image.ubuntu.com/channels.json
[17:21] <nerochiaro> bfiller: both MRs for camera and gallery to use the URL dispatcher have been approved by gunther. they are waiting for jenkins to run.
[17:21] <nerochiaro> bfiller: just FYI
[17:21] <bfiller> nerochiaro: thanks
[17:23] <popey> sergiusens: thanks
[17:23] <nerochiaro> bfiller: i also commented on the browser/notes copy paste for images issue with an example that works for me. and if you have a sec to confirm this it would also be good: https://bugs.launchpad.net/webbrowser-app/+bug/1233282
[17:27] <bfiller> nerochiaro: not getting any popup menu at all when loading that page you refer to
[17:33] <popey> dpm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6176441/ i see no .mo files
[17:34] <dpm> popey, ok, thanks! sergiusens, could we add the .mo files that the debian packages for core apps/system apps build to the click packages? One example where you can see lots of translations is clock, or weather
[17:42]  * ogra_ hugs xnox  ... awesome how you pay for patch inclusion with a bugfix :D
[17:43] <xnox> ogra_: tit for tat
[17:43] <ogra_> :)
[17:58] <lool> barry: getting closer  ;-)
[17:58] <lool> barry: waiting for a) click to move to archive and publish, b) building an image with it (it's tested and all), then you may upload  :-)
[18:01] <popey> ogra_: lool we releasing again today?
[18:01] <ogra_> popey, nope, just building
[18:01] <ogra_> i supposed until all tests have run it will be late night
[18:01] <popey> ok
[18:01] <popey> thanks
[18:02] <ogra_> we'll release something tomorrow morning i think ...
[18:02] <ogra_> also lool wants some test images inbetween to test image upgrade fixes
[18:02] <lool> correct
[18:02] <Saviq> om26er_, right, there's no facebook webapp anymore
[18:02] <lool> ogra_: so sad thing is that I'll have to leave in a few
[18:03] <Saviq> om26er_, can you please file a bug against unity8?
[18:03] <ogra_> so just ignore any random builds you see tonight :)
[18:03] <lool> ogra_: I'm watching last things go in archive
[18:03] <om26er_> Saviq, will do
[18:03] <lool> but click isn't in proposed yet, so will take quite a while
[18:03] <Saviq> om26er_, we need to replace it with something or scrap it altogether
[18:03] <ogra_> lool, oh, isnt ?
[18:03] <ogra_> i thought it was
[18:03] <ogra_> k
[18:03] <om26er_> Saviq, there is a webappfor facebook by default
[18:03] <Saviq> om26er_, there isn't, anymore it seems
[18:04] <om26er_> it opens from app lens
[18:04] <NewUTouchUser> ogra_: Do you know can I take a connection from a Nexus 7 to a workstation through USB? The opposite is possible
[18:04] <Saviq> om26er_, so maybe that's the problem
[18:04] <Saviq> om26er_, that there are no webapps installed on the image for some reason
[18:05] <Saviq> om26er_, I think they're supposed to be converted to click or some such
[18:05] <Saviq> bfiller_lunch, can you shed some light as to why there's no more facebook or twitter webapp in the image?
[18:05] <lool> ogra_: Ok, almost there
[18:05] <lool> ogra_: everything in archive, except click 0.4.10 itself; it's valid candidate, so next publisher run http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html
[18:06] <lool> ogra_: I guess in ~20mn or so
[18:06] <lool> ogra_: then image build, then system-image upload, then wait for it to go saucy release pocket, then image, and then another image  :-)
[18:06] <bfiller> Saviq: no, they should be there, dbarth_ what's going on with that?
[18:06] <ogra_> lool, ok, i'll trigger a build and notify barry
[18:06] <lool> barry: ^
[18:06] <om26er_> Saviq, there is a desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications/ named com.ubuntu.developer.webapps.webapp-facebook_webapp-facebook_1.0.3.desktop
[18:06] <bfiller> pmcgowan: ^^^
[18:06] <lool> ogra_: waiting for click to publish still
[18:06] <ogra_> lool, not sure i'll survive that long
[18:06] <NewUTouchUser> ogra_: I would run a program on my Nexus 7, and this program would take a connection to my local workstation. Currently, I'm unable to take this kind of a connection through WiFi (because of the local network configuration)
[18:06] <om26er_> so dash needs to link there probably.
[18:06] <lool> ogra_: It's ok, I'll come back later
[18:07] <Saviq> om26er_, yeah, but if you search for facebook in the app scope, do you find it?
[18:07] <lool> ogra_: just dump status here if you go  :-)
[18:07] <ogra_> lool, ok
[18:07] <ogra_> will do
[18:07] <Saviq> om26er_, ah, yeah
[18:07] <Saviq> bfiller, dbarth_, false alarm, click scope just taking long to catch up
[18:07] <om26er_> Saviq, I think that's because the apps in the home scope are hard-coded
[18:08] <Saviq> om26er_, yeah, we need to fix the model
[18:08] <Saviq> om26er_, please file a bug against unity8, we'll take care of it
[18:10] <achiang> hm, i can't seem to turn on wifi radio on nexus4, just did a phablet-flash ubuntu-system about an hour ago
[18:12] <barry> ogra_, lool sounds good
[18:12] <popey> achiang: does "nmcli d" show it?
[18:12] <popey> wlan0      802-11-wireless   connected
[18:13] <om26er_> bug 1229551
[18:13] <achiang> popey: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6176597/
[18:14] <achiang> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6176603/
[18:15] <mfisch> achiang: I can turn it on, but not connect
[18:15] <achiang> mfisch: yeah, i'm not getting prompted for a password
[18:15] <mfisch> I mean I cannot auth
[18:15] <achiang> mfisch: it must be on since i see APs near me
[18:15] <mfisch> achiang: it took about 15 seconds for the password box to show for me
[18:16] <mfisch> achiang: your results are worse than mine:
[18:16] <mfisch> achiang: I'm on -proposed and this is what I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6176614/
[18:20] <achiang> mfisch: a reboot fixed it, i was prompted for a signal
[18:20] <achiang> s/signal/password
[18:20] <lool> barry: gtg, but ogra_ will soon build an image, when 71 comes up on system-image, you're welcome to upload  :-)
[18:21] <mfisch> achiang: and did you get signed in?
[18:21] <mfisch> cwayne: meet?
[18:21] <achiang> mfisch: seems to work now
[18:22] <achiang> mfisch: web pages load
[18:22] <barry> lool: sounds good
[18:22] <cwayne> mfisch: sure, iwant me to start one up?
[18:23] <mfisch> cwayne: sure
[18:23] <mfisch> achiang: trying it now
[18:33] <stgraber> ogra: any idea when we can land https://code.launchpad.net/~stgraber/ubuntu/saucy/lxc-android-config/boot-hooks/+merge/188172 ?
[18:34] <ogra_> stgraber, hmm, did anyone put it on the landing plan yet ?
[18:34] <stgraber> that one is self-contained, though there are various bits (apparmor, customizations, ...) which would like to use it, so would be nice to have enough time for that one to land, get people familiar with it so they have enough time to make use of it before release
[18:34] <stgraber> ogra_: not sure, slangasek reviewed it but I don't know whether he added it to the landing doc
[18:35] <ogra_> stgraber, the code looks fine, but it needs to land on the spreadsheet to be considered at all :)
[18:35] <ogra_> i'll add it so it will come up in tomorrows morning meeting
[18:35] <stgraber> ok
[18:35] <jdstrand> fyi, click-apparmor is doing its own thing atm, so may just stick with that for 13.10 and then once it releases, we'll shuffle things around to use it (we want to revamp policy load anyway)
[18:37] <ogra_> added to landing plan
[18:44] <cwayne> Mirv: ping
[18:55] <seepa> I'm trying to debug initrd issues whiles booting and added "break=top" for that purpose to the CMDLINE, but adb is not starting up. Any ideas why that is?
[18:58] <slangasek> barry: so with all the latest and greatest bodged onto my N4, I'm getting install failures.  And system-image-cli seems to be broken under u-d-m, and system-image-dbus -v doesn't give me any meaningful output.  Want to help me debug?
[19:01] <seepa> I've also tried to add "debug" to the cmdline, but after I reboot the /run/ dir doesn't have any logs
[19:01] <boiko> larsu: just tried here, and indeed your branch fixes the problems I was seeing
[19:02] <larsu> boiko: awesome! It's approved, so it should trickle downstream soon
[19:03] <boiko> larsu: would you mind changing the bug status once the change lands? then I can give it another go just to make sure
[19:03] <seepa> and /proc/last_kmsg also doesn't have anything meaningful. I'm a little lost on how to squeeze some information about the boot process/failures out of my device
[19:03] <larsu> boiko: yep.
[19:04] <mfisch> mhr3: still awake? I'm having issues with home scope ordering
[19:04] <boiko> larsu: thanks a lot!
[19:05] <mhr3> mfisch, why, the ordering is well defined?!
[19:05] <mfisch> mhr3: changing the dconf key does not seem to have any affecr
[19:05] <mhr3> mfisch, you get the same order as inodes on your flash :P
[19:05] <mfisch> affect i mean
[19:06] <mfisch> mhr3: I tried this: com.canonical.Unity.Lenses home-lens-priority ['applications.scope', 'music.scope', 'video.scope']
[19:06] <mhr3> mfisch, shell doesn't support reordering
[19:06] <mhr3> no matter how many times we request it
[19:06] <mfisch> mhr3: but we found it in your code! category-manager.vala ;)
[19:08] <mfisch> mhr3: were you serious about inodes?
[19:08]  * mfisch assumes no but you never know
[19:08] <mhr3> mfisch, since shell doesn't do reordering, yes, that's the order you get
[19:08] <mhr3> we have a branch that will sort it by scope ids
[19:08] <mhr3> but hasn't landed yet
[19:09] <mhr3> and ultimately shell needs fixing
[19:11] <mfisch> cwayne: ^^ FYI
[19:12] <cwayne> mfisch: thanks.. mhr3 is this going to be an after-13.10 fix?
[19:12] <mhr3> cwayne, we're pushing the shell devs to fix this particular thing... but you know they also have other priority lists
[19:13] <mhr3> but it's on top of our list
[19:13] <ogra_> barry, upload away !
[19:13] <cwayne> mhr3: ack, thanks
[19:25] <sergiusens> popey, how do you build those mo files? And do you know how the path to consume is?
[19:25] <Tassadar> ogra_: are prebuilt images at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/ deprecated and replaced by system-image... images with the system in loop-mounted system.img?
[19:26] <dobey> this should work to open accounts from within the dash, right? Unity.ActivationResponse (Unity.HandledType.NOT_HANDLED, "settings://accounts");
[19:26] <dobey> err, from within a scope
[19:30] <popey> sergiusens: no clue, that's a dpm question
[19:33] <barry> ogra_: done!
[19:34] <barry> slangasek: sure.  note that gema was seeing a problem earlier on her n4 that i could not reproduce with my n7.  i did a few tests updates earlier today with s-i 1.6 and it all seemed to go okay.  i wonder if there's something broken with the n4 images?
[19:34] <mfisch> mhr3: okay, despite making new .scope files (with different inode #s) I cannot reorder these
[19:34] <mfisch> mhr3: did you mean the /usr/share/unity/scopes/foo.scope files?
[19:35] <slangasek> barry: well, that's possible, but the n4 is the top priority device so we should make sure it's working there ;)
[19:35] <slangasek> barry: so what can we do to debug?
[19:35] <barry> slangasek: sure
[19:35] <mhr3> mfisch, you didn't?!
[19:35] <barry> slangasek: first thing is to crank up the logging.  edit /etc/system-image/client.ini and set loglevel to debug
[19:36] <barry> slangasek: then tail /var/log/system-image/client.log while you attempt to do updates
[19:36] <slangasek> barry: but I thought only system-image-cli logged to that?
[19:36] <dobey> anyone know to open the account settings from within a scope with the settings:// uri?
[19:36] <slangasek> system-image-cli is broken with an unrelated issue
[19:37] <mfisch> mhr3: I copied applications.scope to a new file and removed the old one, and it's still at the bottom of the home scope
[19:37] <barry> slangasek: both -cli and -dbus log to it
[19:37] <slangasek> barry: oh, I see, system-image-dbus is also logging there, great.  So I already have those logs at the 'info' level
[19:38] <mhr3> mfisch, wouldn't that only ensure that apps is last?
[19:38] <slangasek> barry: do I need to go to a higher verbosity than that?
[19:38] <mfisch> mhr3: I thought before it had the lowest inode#, let me double-check
[19:38] <barry> slangasek: depending on when you copied s-i to the device, there was a missing dbus mainloop call that broke -cli.  that's fixed in trunk and in 1.6
[19:38] <mhr3> mfisch, and i *really* didn't expect you to try to do that
[19:38] <mhr3> mfisch, yet now i wonder whether you'll succeed
[19:38] <barry> slangasek: but -dbus wasn't affected
[19:39] <mhr3> crap battery dead
[19:39] <mfisch> mhr3: you're right it was last already, let me redo that order
[19:39] <barry> slangasek: 1.6 also adds a bit more logging at debug level to show you a reverse sorted list of all upgrade candidates and their scores
[19:39] <cwayne> this is gonna be fun to stage mfisch
[19:39] <barry> slangasek: but give it a try at info level and see what the logs say
[19:41] <slangasek> barry: here's the tail of the log for my previous attempt (at logging==info): http://paste.ubuntu.com/6176951/
[19:42] <barry> slangasek: and what do you see in the u/i right now?
[19:42] <slangasek> barry: that's from a previous run, so the current UI display is unrelated
[19:43] <barry> slangasek: ah.  so that tells me you got the channels.json file, but the download stopped there.  does -cli tell you you are up-to-date?
[19:44] <slangasek> barry: this isn't 1.6.  Is 1.6 in the archive?
[19:44] <slangasek> but no, it's definitely not up to date
[19:44] <barry> slangasek: i just uploaded 1.6
[19:45] <barry> slangasek: waiting for approval
[19:45] <slangasek> ok, so -cli doesn't currently tell me anything useful at all
[19:45] <barry> slangasek: try `-cli -vv` but otoh, i'm not sure how useful this will be until you get 1.6 as *lots* has changed
[19:45] <slangasek> when the failure happened, the UI told me there was a failure downloading some tar.xz with an indecipherable filename
[19:45] <barry> slangasek: hmm, that's interest
[19:45] <slangasek> barry: -cli is not useful at all here, it still has the dbus problem
[19:46] <barry> slangasek: right
[19:46] <slangasek> so the exact error in the UI is: Dowload failed: /tmp/system-image/ubuntu-9134b50afbec3d4d0a37b51fa958107bd9eed640f3a9636bcd4a788188e456ff.tarxz
[19:46] <slangasek> oops, s/tarxz/tar.xz/
[19:47] <slangasek> also, 'Download'
[19:47] <barry> wow
[19:47] <slangasek> but I'm sure I spelled the rest right ;P
[19:47] <barry> slangasek: would you like some .debs of what 1.6 will probably be?
[19:47] <slangasek> and at the same time that the message shows up, I get the error message: [systemimage] Sep 30 19:45:54 2013 (8113) Group download reactor done (err/cancel):
[19:47] <slangasek> barry: if 1.6 is uploaded, I can just snag it and build it here
[19:47] <barry> slangasek: it is
[19:48] <barry> that log message may be a little misleading, but its saying there were no errors in the group download
[19:48] <barry> so the problem is elsewhere
[19:48]  * barry goes to clean up the log message
[19:53] <mfisch> anyone know why there's a blank icon for an updatemanager app?
[19:56] <dobey> mfisch: a bug
[19:56] <mfisch> dobey: a bug in click?
[19:56] <dobey> mfisch: in click-update-manager
[19:57] <dobey> gatox: ^^ click-update-manager isn't actually installing the icon anywhere, and so it's not in the package
[19:58] <gatox> dobey, mmmmm it should..... maybe something is wrong in the packaging... i'll check
[19:59] <dobey> gatox: no, it's the CMakeLists.txt doesn't do anything with it. it needs to be added to the install rule, to be installed in the right place
[20:00] <mfisch> can we help fix it?
[20:00] <dobey> it's a trivial fix to the upstream branch
[20:01] <gatox> doanac, can you point me to another app that does something similar?? i don't have much experience with that
[20:02] <gatox> oh
[20:02] <gatox> dobey, can you point me to another app that does something similar?? i don't have much experience with that
[20:03] <dobey> gatox: i'm not sure where it's expecting the icon, or if the icon naming is supposed to follow any standards; but you can probably just put the file in /usr/share/pixmaps
[20:04] <gatox> mmmmm the deb package is wrong, if it's distributed as a click the icon works
[20:05] <gatox> i'll check how to change the rules files
[20:05] <gatox> dobey, rules or install?
[20:06] <dobey> the deb package isn't wrong
[20:06] <dobey> you don't need to change the rules file
[20:06] <dobey> the click package only works by virtue of magic
[20:06] <dobey> click packages simply tar up everything in the source directory
[20:07] <gatox> dobey, if i don't need to change the rules files.... how should i add the icon?
[20:07] <gatox> i think i need to add an install file and make it copy the icon to usr/share/pixmaps
[20:07] <gatox> is that right?
[20:07] <dobey> gatox: as i said, the CMakeLists.txt needs to be changed, so that it also installs the icon, probably into /usr/share/pixmaps
[20:07] <dobey> no, you don't need to do anything under debian/ for this
[20:08] <gatox> dobey, ok.... i'll ping sil2100 tomorrow about the cmake file
[20:09] <dobey> i can do it
[20:09] <dobey> or not
[20:15] <jamonbread> smelly
[20:16] <mfisch> if it's a click change I can help
[20:19] <dobey> mfisch: what do you mean by "click change"?
[20:20] <bfiller> attente: hey you around?
[20:20] <mfisch> dobey: if your package is a click package, looks like it's a deb though per discussion
[20:21] <dobey> mfisch: it is a deb, yes
[20:22] <cwayne> where's the source? im sure mfisch or i could fix it
[20:22] <mfisch> cwayne: lp:click-update-manager
[20:23] <cwayne> mfisch: thanks
[20:23] <cwayne> mfisch: any idea what codecs of video we support?
[20:23] <attente> bfiller, hi
[20:24] <attente> i saw the ubuntu-keyboard got reverted, thanks for that
[20:24] <bfiller> attente: how do I change the dconf settings from the command line for the keyboard? I'm trying to test something
[20:25] <attente> bfiller, you can use gsettings
[20:25] <attente> gsettings set com.canonical.keyboard.maliit key value
[20:25] <bfiller> attente: what is the command to run on the phone? specifically to change the predicitive-text key
[20:25] <bfiller> attente: cool thanks
[20:25] <bfiller> attente: if I want to change the default value then make that change in the schema right?
[20:26] <attente> bfiller, yes
[20:26] <attente> oh, btw, did you get a chance to look at the spell-checking mp?
[20:26] <mfisch> cwayne: no, I could not get it to recognize your mp4 file though
[20:26] <bfiller> attente: I commented on that last week, havne't check back on it yet. will approve if you've already made the update
[20:27] <attente> bfiller, it's merged with trunk so it should be good
[20:27] <attente> er
[20:27] <attente> i mean
[20:27] <attente> trunk is merged in it
[20:27] <bfiller> great
[20:28] <attente> https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/ubuntu-keyboard/spell-checking-settings/+merge/187832
[20:28] <dobey> cwayne: i already have a branch to fix it
[20:29] <mfisch> dobey: dang, same here
[20:29] <mfisch> dobey: I'd be happy to test it if needed
[20:29] <dobey> https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/click-update-manager/install-icon/+merge/188447
[20:31] <ogra_> barry, looks like it FTBFS
[20:32] <mfisch> dobey: looks like trunk also has a proper name in the desktop file
[20:32] <dobey> eh?
[20:33] <beuno> ralsina, can you confirm we can drop on the server side the noauth=1 trick?
[20:33] <mfisch> dobey: on my phone the app says "updatemanager" in trunk the name is better
[20:34] <ralsina> beuno: no I can't, click-update-manager is not 100% doing it right yet (will be tomorrow)
[20:34] <bfiller> attente: approved your MR. Can you look at mine? Disabling predictive-text by default as it's not working properly and code now reading from the settings :) https://code.launchpad.net/~bfiller/ubuntu-keyboard/disable-predictive-text/+merge/188448
[20:34] <ralsina> beuno: it is ok on click scope though
[20:34] <dobey> mfisch: i guess you don't have the daily builds PPA on your phone then?
[20:35] <ralsina> beuno: on second thought, I think click update manager is doing it correctly, it's just not doing it right for retries
[20:35] <mfisch> dobey: no, just the -proposed image (from this morning0
[20:35] <beuno> ralsina, ack, let me know when it's safe to remove
[20:35] <dobey> mfisch: what version of click-update-manager is it?
[20:36] <mfisch> dobey: 0.1 blah 0924
[20:36] <cwayne> sergiusens: for phablet-flash community, can the --ubuntu-path be on a server somewhere, or does it have to be local?
[20:36] <dobey> ralsina: there's also a ?noauth=1 bit in the click scope; is it safe to remove it?
[20:36] <ralsina> dobey: yes, it should be
[20:36] <ralsina> dobey: but it doesn't matter, it is using a signed request, so that can even stay, it will just work anyway
[20:37] <dobey> ugly code is ugly :)
[20:37] <dobey> and system-settings is massively annoying at the moment
[20:37] <sergiusens> cwayne, you can use http://
[20:38] <sergiusens> cwayne, or local paths /myimage.zip
[20:38] <dobey> because the documented way to open the accounts pane is not working
[20:38] <slangasek> barry: ok, here's what I get with system-image-cli -vv from 1.6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177190/
[20:38] <barry> ogra_: dang
[20:38] <cwayne> sergiusens: awesome, but you have to pass both --device-path and --ubuntu-path?
[20:39] <bfiller> attente: nm, done already
[20:39] <barry> slangasek: impossible :)
[20:39] <sergiusens> cwayne, no, just the ones you want to override, that said, I never tested with the 'community' target
[20:39] <barry> slangasek: that's not coming from 1.6
[20:39] <attente> bfiller, should we disable that in the settings front end too then?
[20:40] <cwayne> sergiusens: from my understanding, it can essentially be used instead of ubuntu-system with a --url option, is that right?
[20:40] <slangasek> barry: it's the one I built by downloading the source from the unapproved queue...
[20:40] <bfiller> attente: it's ok to leave in the ui, just don't want it on by default until it's working better. people can experiment with it though by changing the setting
[20:41] <attente> bfiller, ok, thanks
[20:41] <sergiusens> cwayne, for mako, grouper, manta and maguro you want the cdimage-touch stuff and use the --path stuff to override it
[20:41] <sergiusens> cwayne, what's this for?
[20:42] <cwayne> sergiusens: we may want to host images that we know work for demos on a separate server to be 100% sure they're available
[20:42] <barry> slangasek: oh yeah, heh.  that tells me that it took more than 10m to download the files for the upgrade.  does that make any sense?
[20:42] <cwayne> and would want to use phablet-flash to insall them
[20:43] <sergiusens> cwayne, ok, so device and ubuntu path don't work with ubuntu system type images, which is what you probably want for demos
[20:43] <slangasek> barry: sure; I'm currently stuck downloading over 3G because of an unrelated network issue on my home wifi, so it could genuinely take 10 minutes...
[20:43] <cwayne> sergiusens: ah, ok, thanks
[20:43] <cwayne> that's what i wanted to know :)
[20:43] <barry> slangasek: darn.  what would be a reasonable timeout then?
[20:43] <sergiusens> cwayne, if you can live with cdimage style images, then yes, copy the zips you are interested in to wherever you want
[20:44] <cwayne> sergiusens: i think what we'll do is patch phablet-flash to allow -u, eventually :)
[20:44] <barry> slangasek: we can't let that loop forever.  1h? 1d? :)
[20:44] <sergiusens> cwayne, for system server stuff it's going to be easier
[20:45] <sergiusens> cwayne, are you building a system image server somewhere?
[20:45] <cwayne> sergiusens: somewhere in the future, yes
[20:45] <slangasek> barry: I don't think there's any reasonable timeout at the system-image level so long as the download service still says it's in progress...?
[20:45] <cwayne> not quite yet of course
[20:45] <JHOSMAN> mhall119: You can share with me this pressentation? http://xda-devcon.com/presentation/ubuntu-touch-development-workshop/
[20:46] <slangasek> barry: why do you think we need a timeout?
[20:47] <mhall119> JHOSMAN: the slides or the video?
[20:48] <JHOSMAN> mhall119: Slides =)
[20:48] <barry> slangasek: well, that's the thing i guess.  i'm not sure the progress signals are totally reliable yet (there are bugs on that iirc).  so let's say we don't get a progress signal in a long time, and we don't get any "finishing" signals (e.g. finished, error, canceled).  does s-i just sit there forever?  there's no positive way to know that the download is stalled if we don't get a signal
[20:49] <slangasek> barry: so is the current timeout "10 minutes with no progress signal"?
[20:49] <mhall119> JHOSMAN: PDF or ODP?
[20:49] <JHOSMAN> mhall119: for this presentation https://plus.google.com/u/0/101138711298535125312/posts/CTyxZUwA9dS
[20:49] <JHOSMAN> ODP =)
[20:49] <slangasek> barry: if the problem is that u-d-m isn't letting is know the status, then sure, we should fix that bug
[20:50] <barry> slangasek: not currently, but i suppose we could try to reset the timeout back to 10m countdown whenever we get a non-finishing signal
[20:50] <mhall119> JHOSMAN: http://ubuntuone.com/7fuKqDEWnNJZyxgKh3ke1v
[20:50] <slangasek> barry: right, that sounds like the better tradeoff to me
[20:50] <barry> slangasek: iiuc, the qt network stack doesn't give us very good granularity, so that doesn't get plumbed through very well
[20:51] <JHOSMAN> mhall119: ^_^ Thanks!
[20:51] <slangasek> barry: although, I just reproduced the error again and it has definitely *not* been 10 minutes
[20:51] <mhall119> JHOSMAN: no problem, link to your presentation on G+ afterwards please :)
[20:51] <slangasek> I'm timing it now to be absolutely sure :)
[20:52] <JHOSMAN> mhall119:  My presentation will be recorded on Saturday October 12 and broadcast on Channel Campus from Colombia (the tutorial on how to create the first app for Ubuntu Touch - Unit Converter)
[20:53] <JHOSMAN> In Spanish
[20:53] <barry> slangasek: LP: #1233379
[20:54] <barry> ogra_: dang. i know what that is.  i'll upload a 1.6.1 asap
[20:54] <mhall119> JHOSMAN: I'll watch it and understand very little then :)
[20:54] <JHOSMAN> :P in @ubuntuco Account of twitter We will be advising
[20:55] <JHOSMAN> Ubuntu Colombia, have another paper too, but is about Wine
[20:56] <mhall119> you guys keep rocking, our South American locos are awesome
[20:56] <JHOSMAN> ^_^
[20:57] <JHOSMAN> mhall119:  Not if you knew, I'm one of the Council of Colombia and Ubuntu Ubuntu Member: P not talked personally, I think only you did with sergio meneses.
[21:01] <JHOSMAN>  mhall119  Will study the presentation, I reviewed and I will be very useful =)
[21:05] <mhall119> JHOSMAN: I hope so, glad it could be re-used
[21:08] <slangasek> barry: ok, this time it died after exactly 10 minutes, so I guess that is the issue :)
[21:08] <barry> slangasek: i have to upload a new version to fix a test.  maybe i should sneak this in too and call it 1.7?
[21:09] <slangasek> barry: also, what explains the behavior that u-d-m drops the files once s-i cancels, rather than finishing the download in case s-i comes back, or at least leaving the partial download in place?
[21:09] <slangasek> barry: sounds good to me
[21:10] <barry> slangasek: we really don't yet have reliable resumes, or should i say well tested resumes.  so for now, the safest bet is to restart, thus keeping the downloads atomic.  with all the other constraints, this is just going to have to wait
[21:11] <slangasek> barry: ok
[21:12] <mhall119> ogra_: sergiusens: how will be support apps like rad.io so they keep playing while in the background?
[21:13] <mhall119> I know we don't right now, but going forward, do we have a plan for that?
[21:13] <sergiusens> mhall119, I thought the sound/music hub was supposed to solve that
[21:13] <mhall119> sergiusens: for streaming audio?
[21:14] <sergiusens> mhall119, good point, well, if it can't be delegated I guess it's going to be complicated....
[21:14] <JHOSMAN> Is there any way to load Ubuntu Touch, without being installed? (live mode)
[21:14] <mhall119> I suppose if we could give it a streaming URL to keep playing, that would work
[21:14] <JHOSMAN> NExus 4
[21:14] <sergiusens> mhall119, more of a tvoss question
[21:14] <mhall119> JHOSMAN: you can run it in a window on your desktop
[21:14] <mhall119> but nothing like a live session for phone, no
[21:15] <mhall119> jhodapp: did your work on a media player service take into account streaming audio?
[21:15] <JHOSMAN> mhall119:  How I can do? It is good that I have a bug that requires screenshot in Nexys 4 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1232635
[21:16] <mhall119> JHOSMAN: unfortunately you can't run apps on the windowed-on-you-desktop version
[21:17] <slangasek> barry: hmmm.  so in fact, u-d-m doesn't seem to actually be downloading anything right now.  /tmp/system-image is stalled at 131MB (of 247 to download).
[21:18] <barry> slangasek: ah, network problems :)
[21:18] <slangasek> barry: no, the network is fine
[21:18] <JHOSMAN> mhall119:  Then I guess I'll have to reinstall the system to track the bug: P (and Android put back)
[21:18] <barry> slangasek: u-d-m bug?
[21:18] <barry> slangasek: u-d-m logs to syslog
[21:20] <slangasek> barry: rather special-looking logs. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177322/
[21:20] <barry> yeesh
[21:21] <barry> slangasek: i have to punt to mandel on that one
[21:21]  * slangasek nods
[21:21] <slangasek> mandel: why is u-d-m speaking Klingon in my syslog? :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177322/
[21:22] <mhall119> slangasek: Romulan treachery no doubt
[21:22] <slangasek> barry: so, if I kill u-d-m and run system-image-cli again, the download seems to have magically continued where it left off
[21:22] <barry> slangasek: i think that's u-d-m magic
[21:23] <barry> slangasek: if the group download object_path hasn't changed, then i *think* s-i will just recover
[21:23] <slangasek> yes, and welcome magic it is :)
[21:23] <barry> indeed! :)
[21:23] <slangasek> however, it took u-d-m being killed to get it to recover
[21:24] <lool> heya
[21:24] <lool> so looks like system-image failed to build in -proposed?
[21:25] <slangasek> lool: yes; barry's working on a reupload to fix that, along with bug #1233379
[21:25] <lool> barry: seeing previous chat on signals etc.: is the old downloader still available from e.g. cmdline to run?
[21:25] <lool> slangasek: looking, thanks
[21:25] <barry> lool: no
[21:25] <slangasek> lool: no, and there's really no reason it should be, that one was just broken differently
[21:25] <mhall119> alecu: are we going to get working ratings and reviews in the 1.0 release, or will that come later?
[21:26] <slangasek> let's focus on fixing one set of bugs, not two :)
[21:26] <jhodapp> mhall119, streaming audio just works, doesn't need anything from me
[21:26] <lool> ah I think this bug might have hit others in the past too, like launching the update, not pressing download, but then the downloader is actually dead
[21:27] <barry> slangasek: testing fixes now
[21:27] <sergiusens> jhodapp, he ( mhall119 ) is probably referring to background streaming when an app is not in focus
[21:28] <jhodapp> sergiusens, oh you're right... mhall119, you'll want to talk to tvoss about that, he designed the service
[21:28] <barry> lool: this was specifically in the dbus reactor loop talking to u-d-m, so it's unlikely this exact bug was hitting anybody before now.  with 1.7 it will reset the timeout after every signal.
[21:29] <barry> slangasek: would you be able to test this on your device?
[21:29] <lool> ok
[21:29] <slangasek> barry: sure
[21:30] <barry> slangasek: okay.  i'll ping you when trunk is ready to be tested
[21:31] <mhall119> jhodapp: how about streaming audio when the app doing it goes into the background or the phone screen is off?
[21:31] <mhall119> jhodapp: tvoss it is, thanks
[21:32] <jhodapp> mhall119, np
[21:38] <cwayne> salem_: hey, seeing a weird issue in dialer-app, sometimes when you type in a number, the call button doesnt activate
[21:38] <salem_> cwayne, that usually happens when you have no network
[21:41] <ejat> can someone verify this bug 1233084
[21:47] <mfisch> infographics is broken in image71 :(
[21:48] <mhall119> but setting background images is working again in image 70 \o/
[21:54] <ejat> mfisch, sorry.. which infographic ?
[21:54] <alecu> hi mhall119, ratings and reviews will come later
[21:56] <cwayne> ejat: the welcome screen 'x texts sent today'
[21:56] <alecu> mhall119: I see that the branch that removed fake reviews is already on the dev image, but we still need to hide the stars for the review, the "Rate this" control and the number of reviews from the preview
[21:56] <ejat> owh .. thanks cwayne
[21:58] <ejat> cwayne, only for text ? photos taken today working
[22:00] <ejat> tried send msg ... not displayed in the infographic :(
[22:02] <cwayne> ejat: we also have some code that adds in fake data, thats segfaulting in today's image
[22:03] <boiko> Saviq: ping
[22:03] <ejat> owh..
[22:03] <Saviq> boiko, pong
[22:03] <ejat> cellluar ui also changes in image 71 ?
[22:04] <boiko> Saviq: do you happen to have some code to place notifications that is known to be working? (examples, etc)
[22:04] <boiko> Saviq: I have a piece of code that works on the desktop, but not on the phone
[22:04] <Saviq> boiko, lp:unity-notifications has quite some python examples
[22:04] <Saviq> boiko, and then lp:unity8-autopilot has ap tests for them
[22:05] <cwayne> camera doesn't work in 71 on mako
[22:05] <boiko> Saviq: nice! the bug I'm checking is this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dialer-app/+bug/1224095
[22:05] <boiko> Saviq: avatars are displayed on the desktop, but not on the phone
[22:06] <Saviq> boiko, on the desktop == notify-osd ?
[22:06] <boiko> Saviq: I think so
[22:06] <Saviq> boiko, I think there's a difference in how we expect them to come with the new interface
[22:06] <Saviq> boiko, i.e. the old one was broken
[22:07] <Saviq> I thought we cleared that up, though...
[22:07] <Saviq> boiko, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-api-team/unity-notifications/trunk/view/head:/examples/sd-example-incoming-call.py should be what you need
[22:10] <boiko> Saviq: I'm basically using notify_notification_new(title, body, absoluteImagePath)
[22:10] <ejat> cwayne, mine working ..
[22:10] <ejat> for the camera
[22:11] <cwayne> ejat: on a nexus4 with the latest -proposed image?
[22:11] <Saviq> boiko, right, that should work :/
[22:11] <ejat> cwayne, i just did OTA ... yeah nexus4
[22:12] <ejat> the video still freeze (not working)
[22:13] <ejat> as before
[22:18] <boiko> Saviq: btw, when running the example, the image is displayed, but I noticed something: the click on snap decision buttons is passing through and reaching the app underneath
[22:19] <boiko> Saviq: is it a known bug or should I report it?
[22:19] <ejat> is it ok updating using apt-get and OTA ? or recommend only using OTA
[22:19] <Saviq> boiko, please report, I think I know the issue and indeed it might be the case
[22:24] <Saviq> boiko, yeah, confirmed
[22:26] <boiko> Saviq: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-notifications/+bug/1233411
[22:26] <Saviq> boiko, thank you
[22:27] <boiko> Saviq: np, I will debug the avatar problem now :)
[22:27] <Saviq> boiko, I'm looking on the unity8 side now, too
[22:31] <boiko> Saviq: so, the file is being passed like this:
[22:31] <boiko> Saviq: "/home/phablet/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/1373038215.2746.0@ubuntu-phablet/photos/pas_id_522F75E200000000_photo-file0.image%2Fpng"
[22:31] <boiko> Saviq: (took that from dbus-monitor)
[22:31] <Saviq> boiko, so url-encoded?
[22:32] <boiko> Saviq: nope, that's the file name :)
[22:32] <Saviq> boiko, right
[22:32] <boiko> Saviq: do you want me to urlencode that?
[22:32] <Saviq> boiko, so, default avatar is working
[22:33] <Saviq> boiko, and it's you guys passing it as well
[22:33] <Saviq> boiko, so must be something's wrong with the url we're getting
[22:33] <boiko> Saviq: yep, default avatar is working
[22:35] <Saviq> boiko, can I set the avatar in the contacts app?
[22:35] <boiko> Saviq: it is not merged yet, but you can get debs that do that from these two MRs:
[22:36] <boiko> https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/address-book-app/fix-1207774/+merge/187131
[22:36] <boiko> https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/address-book-service/fix-1207774/+merge/187421
[22:36] <Saviq> boiko, will log into twitter, then ;D
[22:36] <boiko> Saviq: hehe, I think that works too :)
[22:40] <boiko> Saviq: and what is better? just the file path, or a file:///some/path URL?
[22:40] <Saviq> boiko, full URL
[22:40] <boiko> Saviq: ok
[22:42] <Saviq> boiko, but I imagine it actually un-escapes the url
[22:42] <Saviq> boiko, and looks for a .png file
[22:42] <Saviq> boiko, you'd have to escape it again
[22:42] <boiko> Saviq: yeah, let me try to encode it before sending, let's see if it works better
[22:43] <Saviq> boiko, TBH it shouldn't be storing it like that either...
[22:43] <Saviq> boiko, those are not safe characters to name a file with...
[22:43] <boiko> Saviq: I guess that's being like that in evolution for quite some time now :)
[22:43] <Saviq> boiko, yeah, probably
[22:44] <Saviq> boiko, hmm, have added twitter, no new contacts, should I do something special/
[22:45] <boiko> Saviq: good question, I never tried to configure a twitter account on the phone
[22:47] <Saviq> boiko, anyway, I suspect that to be your issue, let me know if that's not it and you need us to look into it
[22:48] <boiko> Saviq: thanks!
[22:49] <mfisch> cwayne: pete says photos works
[22:51] <ejat> mfisch, is it ok updating using apt-get and OTA ? or recommend only using OTA
[22:51] <mfisch> ejat: you should use OTA, once you use apt, you've broken OTAs ability to do a diff
[22:51]  * ejat noted
[22:52] <mfisch> ejat: additionally it should get more exercise ;)
[22:53] <mfisch> cwayne: does the camera work for you on build 71/mako?
[22:53] <mfisch> cwayne: all I get is a white screen
[22:53] <ejat> mfisch, your camera also not working ?
[22:53] <sergiusens> slangasek, hey, ist there an easy way to figure out what's going on with upstart-local-bridge?
[22:53] <mfisch> ejat: no, mine is not
[22:54] <mfisch> ejat: just a white screen
[22:54] <ejat> mfisch, :(  .. mine workign ..
[22:54] <ejat> working*
[22:55] <sergiusens> slangasek, this is my attached strace http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177584/ but I see no event on upstart (at least my testjob isn't triggered)
[22:55] <mfisch> ejat: build 71 broke wifi and cam for me
[22:56] <ejat> mfisch, should i remove repo ppa:ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/collection n daily to avoid doing apt-get
[22:56] <mfisch> ejat: you can avoid doing apt-get by not typing "apt-get"
[22:56] <ejat> mfisch, im still lucky my wifi working
[22:56] <ejat> since my cellular data not working :(
[22:57] <mfisch> ejat: phablet-network is a good tool if the UI is broken for wifi
[22:57] <ejat> mfisch, noted ..
[22:57] <ejat> bug 1233084 , i wish someone will look at it ..
[22:58] <mfisch> ejat: someone on my team will be looking tomorrow unless someone else does first
[22:58] <ejat> thanks
[22:58] <mfisch> I dont have data plan on my sim
[22:59] <ejat> i just bought new sim purposely to test
[22:59] <ejat> but prepaid :)
[23:06] <slangasek> stgraber: ^^ do you have any idea how sergiusens can debug upstart-local-bridge?
[23:07] <stgraber> slangasek, sergiusens: I know next to nothing about the local bridge unfortunately, though if you want to figure out whether upstart got the event, you can use dbus-monitor on the system bus
[23:07] <sergiusens> stgraber, thanks, that's a good start
[23:08] <slangasek> yeah, line 6 from that pastebin does look like it's sending an event
[23:08] <sergiusens> slangasek, stgraber http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177629/
[23:08] <sergiusens> seems it is
[23:09] <stgraber> sergiusens: yep, what's your start on condition and is it a system job or a user job?
[23:10] <sergiusens> slangasek, stgraber doesn't seem to be seen by my simple job though http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177588/
[23:10] <sergiusens> stgraber, system
[23:10] <stgraber> that's because your job is wrong
[23:10] <stgraber> drop the :sys:
[23:10] <sergiusens> stgraber, ack, although I tried both, let me give it a go
[23:11] <stgraber> that prefix is only added for events forwarded to the user session, on the system side, you don't need the prefix (and IIRC we don't strip those so it'll be considered a different event which won't match)
[23:11] <sergiusens> stgraber, ok, progress http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177631/
[23:12] <sergiusens> stgraber, but still failing for some reason
[23:12] <stgraber> sergiusens: look in /var/log/upstart/
[23:13] <sergiusens> stgraber, for testme.log?
[23:13] <stgraber> yep
[23:13] <sergiusens> stgraber, I only see that log if I initctl start testme
[23:13] <sergiusens> stgraber, but nothing happens with these events
[23:14] <boiko> Saviq: so, the percent got encoded into %25, but now I used a complete file:// URL, and it didn't work
[23:15] <Saviq> boiko, can you add:
[23:15] <Saviq> Component.onCompleted: console.log("[23:15] <Saviq> boiko, to Notification.qml
[23:15] <boiko> Saviq: well, it's C++
[23:15] <Saviq> boiko, to the shell
[23:15] <boiko> Saviq: ah yes, ok
[23:15] <Saviq> boiko, I want to see what happens on that side
[23:15] <boiko> Saviq: yep, let me do that
[23:16] <Saviq> boiko, restart unity8 and look into .cache/upstart/unity8.log when you make the call
[23:16] <cwayne> ogra_: just fyi 71 seems pretty broken on mako
[23:16] <sergiusens> stgraber, not sure it helps at all, but here's the full log for doing 'setprop s s' http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177640/
[23:18] <sergiusens> stgraber, and this is from doing 'start testme' http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177646/
[23:18] <sergiusens> where the log file is created /var/log/upstart/testme.log
[23:20] <sergiusens> stgraber, I have to leave for a bit now, I'll be back in a couple of hours in case you are looking at this; if not I'll just email james
[23:21] <stgraber> sergiusens: not sure what's going on, I'd suggest changing the exec to "touch /tmp/debug" and calling initctl reload-configuration before retrying
[23:21] <stgraber> just to make sure upstart's view of the job is accurate and to avoid any potential problem with env
[23:22] <sergiusens> stgraber, hmmm, that worked!
[23:22] <sergiusens> stgraber, thanks
[23:22] <stgraber> np
[23:23] <sergiusens> stgraber, the env things was james's example, so I sticked with that :-P
[23:23] <sergiusens> thanks again!
[23:29] <boiko> Saviq: so, I used onIconSourceChanged, cause the snap decision is first created with no contact matching (to make sure we get the snap decision as soon as possible), and then when the contact service returns results, we modify the entry
[23:29] <boiko> Saviq: here is the interesting output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177673/
[23:32] <boiko> Saviq: the image seems to arrive there with the correct file path, but somehow it gets the image://gicon/ prefix
[23:35] <Saviq> boiko, ah!
[23:36] <boiko> Saviq: so any ideas?
[23:36] <Saviq> boiko, looking
[23:38] <Saviq> boiko, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-api-team/unity-notifications/trunk/view/head:/src/Notification.cpp#L130
[23:38] <boiko> Saviq: I guess it would have worked if I had used the file path without the file:// (from the quick look I took at Notification.cpp
[23:38] <Saviq> boiko, yeah, but the code there needs to be smarter, if anything
[23:39] <Saviq> boiko, or dumber, just passing the URL through
[23:39] <boiko> Saviq: yep
[23:39] <Saviq> boiko, thanks for digging
[23:42] <Saviq> boiko, updating the bug
[23:43] <boiko> Saviq: it was not all unity's fault afterall, the encoding thing was needed too
[23:43] <boiko> Saviq: just confirmed that if I remove the file:// prefix it works (with the encoding)
[23:44] <Saviq> boiko, k, I'll have a branch fixing lp:unity-notifications in 5
[23:44] <boiko> Saviq: no hurry, I will propose a branch to the telephony-service soon too
[23:48] <Saviq> boiko, https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity-notifications/fix-themed-icons/+merge/188483
[23:50] <boiko> Saviq: thanks! I'll give it a try
[23:50] <Saviq> boiko, probably an even more correct fix would be to QUrl it and analyze whether there's a scheme provided, and set it to file otherwise, and see if it's a relative path and ignore it then
[23:51] <boiko> Saviq: yep, but better do that after 13.10 IMO, I think checking for / is enough for now
[23:52] <boiko> Saviq: https://code.launchpad.net/~boiko/telephony-service/fix_1224095/+merge/188484
[23:53] <Saviq> boiko, cheers
[23:53] <boiko> Saviq: thanks for your help!
[23:54] <Saviq> boiko, o/, gonna go now, 2am here
[23:54] <boiko> Saviq: good night! :)
[23:55] <Saviq> boiko, you too