jrwren | when was the last time bears were stomped by lions. I don't mean a win. I mean a stomp. gotta be 30+yrs | 00:43 |
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rick_h_ | yea, it was really bad | 00:45 |
rick_h_ | cutler threw a few passes right at the lion players | 00:46 |
rick_h_ | painful | 00:46 |
snap-l | We're going to start the meeting in 5 minutes | 00:56 |
snap-l | um, 4 minutes. :) | 00:56 |
snap-l | Also, Skinny Puppy Weapon is an awesome album | 00:56 |
snap-l | That is all | 00:56 |
snap-l | JoDee and I played two games of Pandemic. It's an excellent board game | 00:57 |
snap-l | Highly recommended | 00:57 |
snap-l | OK, let's get started | 01:00 |
snap-l | http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-michigan/520/detail/ | 01:01 |
snap-l | Who all is here? | 01:01 |
jrwren | present | 01:03 |
snap-l | Anyone else here? | 01:04 |
snap-l | Will give one more minute, and then we'll hit the agenda | 01:04 |
snap-l | OK, before we hit the agenda, I wanted to highlight that we have a section on Ubuntu Discourse: | 01:05 |
snap-l | http://ubuntu-discourse.org/t/category-definition-for-ubuntu-michigan/1026/2 | 01:05 |
snap-l | If someone would like to write up a definition for this category, please feel free | 01:06 |
snap-l | otherwise I'll draft up something sooner or later. | 01:06 |
snap-l | :) | 01:06 |
snap-l | Discourse is pretty cool. I can see myself using it more than the forums. | 01:06 |
snap-l | Anyone else using discourse yet? | 01:07 |
snap-l | OK, one more thing before we hit the agenda. | 01:09 |
snap-l | Regarding verification: It looks like our group wouldn't make even basic verification. :) | 01:09 |
snap-l | If the participation in the latest Global Jam is to be believed | 01:10 |
snap-l | I know it was a pretty bad weekend all around (especially since it had Ohio Linuxfest opposite it) | 01:10 |
snap-l | but I think we're more active as a social group rather than as a group that actually does things in the community | 01:11 |
snap-l | I would love to be proven wrong | 01:11 |
jrwren | i agree ;] | 01:12 |
snap-l | OK. If someone would like to take us through verification, please feel free to speak up. Otherwise we'll let it lapse until we get a bug in our collective bottoms to go after it again. | 01:14 |
snap-l | Speaking of collective bottoms and terrible non-sequiters | 01:14 |
snap-l | RELEASE PARTY! | 01:14 |
snap-l | 13.10 is coming out pretty soon. | 01:14 |
snap-l | waldo323 sent out a questionaire about which night / location might work best for folks | 01:15 |
snap-l | or at least I think he did. Wil double check with him. | 01:15 |
snap-l | more information forthcoming on when and where it'll be held | 01:15 |
snap-l | Last I talked with him it seemed like th Black Lotus in Clawson. | 01:15 |
snap-l | (would be the location) | 01:16 |
snap-l | It's a decent place if you haven't been there, with decent parking and a golf simulator place next door | 01:16 |
snap-l | So, until we hear more, more to come. :) | 01:17 |
snap-l | Any questions, comments, concerns? | 01:17 |
snap-l | (If you haven't been to a release party yet, it's a lot of fun.) | 01:17 |
snap-l | (Sometimes we even load up some machines with the latest Ubuntu) | 01:17 |
snap-l | That's all I have at the moment. Any further business to discuss? | 01:21 |
waf | nope | 01:21 |
snap-l | http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-michigan/521/detail/ | 01:22 |
snap-l | ^ Next meeting should be normal time | 01:22 |
waldo323 | about to lookat the logs to see what i missed :-\ | 01:22 |
snap-l | I'd like to thank everyone for indulging me for moving the meeting | 01:22 |
snap-l | waldo323: You're on the hook for the release party. :) | 01:22 |
snap-l | waldo323: And things that aren't in the logs (muhahahaha) | 01:23 |
snap-l | waldo323: (note: not really) | 01:23 |
waldo323 | not really about the logs or release party ;) | 01:23 |
snap-l | logs | 01:23 |
snap-l | you're still on the hook for the release party. :) | 01:24 |
snap-l | any updates? | 01:24 |
snap-l | (note: saying "more to come" is perfectly OK. :) ) | 01:24 |
waldo323 | i am going to look at the google doc in a couple minutes and see which date is best | 01:24 |
snap-l | kk | 01:25 |
waldo323 | for us i think the 12th is best at this point or the 18th but sarah can't make it that day | 01:25 |
snap-l | 12th would be better for me | 01:25 |
waldo323 | anyone else here who wants to put in their best availability would be helpful :) | 01:26 |
snap-l | Or just post it to the list. :) | 01:28 |
snap-l | That usually gets some folks attention | 01:28 |
waldo323 | i did a while back, would it be spamming to send it again? | 01:29 |
snap-l | I don't believe so | 01:29 |
snap-l | It's closer to the event | 01:29 |
waldo323 | ok, i think i'll modify the form so the results are easier to read first | 01:30 |
waldo323 | we could just shoot for the 12th | 01:31 |
snap-l | It's a saturday, and those usually (usually) get more attention | 01:32 |
waldo323 | how bout black lotus this time? | 01:34 |
snap-l | I don't have a problem with it. | 01:35 |
snap-l | (I think we're watching decision making history here, folks. :) ) | 01:35 |
waldo323 | 6 to 9 and people can stay how ever long though we need to leave a bit earlier | 01:37 |
waldo323 | 6 pm to 9 pm EST or EDT what ever it is right now | 01:38 |
snap-l | Cool. Please post to the list, and we'll get the word out. :) | 01:38 |
snap-l | Thank you! | 01:38 |
snap-l | OK, unless there's something else to discuss, I think we've covered it all and can call this meeting adjourned | 01:43 |
snap-l | Thank you everyone for coming on out! | 01:47 |
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snap-l | morning | 11:47 |
DrDaemonEye | morning snap-l | 11:47 |
rick_h_ | morning | 11:50 |
rick_h_ | the morning email deluge is sweeping me away! back to the woods! | 11:50 |
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snap-l | rick_h_: No no, you must surf the wave. :) | 12:23 |
snap-l | (Now would be a great time to try the two-minute rule. :) ) | 12:24 |
rick_h_ | phew, email kind of caught up | 13:22 |
snap-l | Heh | 13:26 |
snap-l | Stupid Traffic on I-696 really sucked this morning | 13:26 |
waf | ah, i wonder if that's where my coworker is. | 13:39 |
snap-l | Well, it was closer to Woodward. They mentioned that two left lanes were closed, so people were doing all sorts of heroics to get off the freeway | 13:40 |
snap-l | and turns out there wasn't anything. | 13:40 |
snap-l | And they wonder why people don't pay any attention to signs in Michigan | 13:41 |
waf | rick_h_: you see http://pse.contraterrene.com/engine/ ? | 13:44 |
waf | hitting hn as 'solving the bookmark problem' | 13:44 |
rick_h_ | waf: no, hadn't seen that. I like that it fits with the idea of notes I want to do. The selection via the bookmarklet is smart and useful in that situation | 13:47 |
rick_h_ | waf: so I'm confused. The presentation says 'the data stays on your computer' but the bookmarklet looks to be seding it to http://pse.contraterrene.com/engine/index.html | 13:51 |
snap-l | I have already solved my bookmark problems. :) | 13:55 |
rick_h_ | that's the only problem with the vacation I didn't get the bookie hacking time i had hoped for. | 13:56 |
snap-l | rick_h_: That's why they call it a "Vacation". :) | 13:56 |
rick_h_ | bah! :P | 13:56 |
widox | rick_h_: doesn't seem to be making any network requests for me | 13:57 |
widox | using local storage | 13:57 |
widox | this thing sure is ugly though | 13:58 |
snap-l | So that's pretty useless unless you're on the same machine | 13:58 |
widox | yeah | 13:58 |
rick_h_ | ok I was just trying to read the bookmarklet. It shows a network call. Wonder how he's doing fulltext in the browser then. Did web storage implement the fulltext bit of sqlite? | 13:59 |
brousch | jrwren: http://www.raspyfi.com/ | 14:27 |
jrwren | cool | 15:01 |
snap-l | Yeah, the Pi has problems with Squeezelite | 15:01 |
snap-l | Honestly, just getting an off-board DAC is probably "good enough" | 15:01 |
snap-l | http://schiit.com/products/modi | 15:05 |
rick_h_ | snap-l: back to snap-l eh? | 15:58 |
rick_h_ | snap-l: are we good for CHC this week? /me isn't recalling | 15:58 |
snap-l | We have one last weel | 16:06 |
snap-l | week, even | 16:06 |
snap-l | And I didn't change the nick on purpose. :( | 16:06 |
snap-l | one sec | 16:06 |
cmaloney | Strange | 16:08 |
ColonelPanic001 | snap-l is no more? | 16:20 |
rick_h_ | cmaloney: *confused* you did or didn't want to change the name? | 16:25 |
cmaloney | I didn't change it on purpose | 16:27 |
cmaloney | snap-l is my back-up name if it can't get cmaloney | 16:27 |
ColonelPanic001 | I don't remember seeing you not use snap-l | 16:33 |
ColonelPanic001 | it's like I don't even know you anymore. | 16:33 |
cmaloney | ColonelPanic001: Speaking of which... your move. :) | 16:40 |
ColonelPanic001 | I think I'm doomed on that 9x9 | 16:42 |
ColonelPanic001 | maybe only mostly doomed | 16:42 |
ColonelPanic001 | we'll see | 16:42 |
cmaloney | Funny, I think I'm doomed on that 9x9 game | 16:43 |
cmaloney | Since you have a few captures. | 16:43 |
ColonelPanic001 | it'll be the first game in history in which both players lose | 16:43 |
ColonelPanic001 | how exciting | 16:43 |
* greg-g swoops in for the inw | 16:44 | |
greg-g | gah! | 16:44 |
ColonelPanic001 | less swoop | 16:44 |
ColonelPanic001 | more crash. | 16:44 |
greg-g | why do people chew with their mouths open in public? | 17:32 |
greg-g | and slurp their cereal | 17:32 |
waf | because they heard that it pissed off greg grossmeier, and they want to stick it to you. | 17:36 |
greg-g | likely | 17:38 |
jrwren | manners aren't the same everywhere. | 17:38 |
jrwren | outside of the western world, those things aren't considered rude. | 17:38 |
cmaloney | Pretty sure California is the epicenter of the western world | 17:38 |
cmaloney | and as such is bound by the customs of our people | 17:39 |
cmaloney | No chewing with mouth open, no slurping, and certainly do not wear a white codpiece after labour day. | 17:40 |
greg-g | jrwren: what craig said. She's not from another country, not even Canada. | 17:45 |
rick_h_ | lol | 17:45 |
rick_h_ | greg-g: it annoys the $#@$@# out of me and my wife does it sometimes. | 17:45 |
rick_h_ | I confronted her once and she denied it 100% and I've given up | 17:45 |
brousch | squirt gun it | 17:45 |
rick_h_ | lol! | 17:45 |
brousch | "If you don't have your moth open how'd the water get in there?!" | 17:46 |
rick_h_ | s/kitty trainer 3000/wife trainer 3000 | 17:46 |
cmaloney | Yeah, that wouldn't show up in the divorce proceedings | 17:46 |
rick_h_ | yea, we just lived together in a 23' box for a week. I'll have to wait to test that one out | 17:47 |
cmaloney | i think you could make it a research project | 17:48 |
cmaloney | Remember to take copious amounts of data. | 17:49 |
cmaloney | Also film it | 17:49 |
rick_h_ | http://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/9917140306/ :) | 17:51 |
cmaloney | Nice panorama | 17:51 |
* cmaloney checks to see if it would make a good widescreen wallpaper | 17:52 | |
cmaloney | notsomuch | 17:53 |
rick_h_ | heh | 17:53 |
cmaloney | Needs some cropping | 17:53 |
rick_h_ | yea, I need to crop the end off there | 17:53 |
rick_h_ | the camers doesn't do well with telling you how much tmie time youve' got left before it quits | 17:54 |
greg-g | brousch: ++ to squirt gun | 17:54 |
rick_h_ | so you kind of go and try to guess the right speed | 17:54 |
greg-g | rick_h_: yeah, so does Carrie sometimes :) | 17:54 |
jrwren | i talk with food in my mouth, knowing the whole time its bad manners. | 18:00 |
jrwren | :) | 18:00 |
rick_h_ | yea, we've stopped and trying to teach the boy not to | 18:00 |
rick_h_ | and grandpa kept doing it and getting corrected | 18:00 |
rick_h_ | love it when a 3yr fusses at grandpa "don't talk with food your mouth grandpa!" | 18:00 |
greg-g | yeah, I constantly did that to my dad growing up. | 18:00 |
ColonelPanic001 | food | 18:09 |
ColonelPanic001 | er, good | 18:09 |
ColonelPanic001 | people chewing with their mouth open is up there with people that don't flush the toilet or kill puppies | 18:10 |
rick_h_ | heh, I've started the training for 'put the seat down now that you've gone potty' | 18:10 |
rick_h_ | it's the little things you have to teach these little monsters lol | 18:10 |
jrwren | Amazon Linux AMI 2013.09 with kernel 3.4.62, lolz | 18:13 |
jcastro | PARTY LIKE IT IS 2005 | 18:20 |
greg-g | ColonelPanic001: are you against water conservation? | 18:21 |
ColonelPanic001 | Yes, we have plenty of water | 18:22 |
ColonelPanic001 | fish pee in water all the time, how can it be bad? It's natural. | 18:22 |
greg-g | ColonelPanic001: :-( | 18:23 |
ColonelPanic001 | what? I flush it, and it just goes back out to the lakes | 18:24 |
ColonelPanic001 | it doesn't get used up, it's okay | 18:24 |
greg-g | :-( :-( | 18:24 |
ColonelPanic001 | it's the circle of life. er, water. | 18:24 |
brousch | It's not like it dissipates into space. It goes to the treatment plant, gets cleaned up a bit, then flows back to the lake | 18:25 |
brousch | I'm sure people in the desert states have a different view | 18:26 |
brousch | But it's their own fault for living in a frigging desert | 18:26 |
greg-g | well, cuz that treatment facility is net-zero waste, right? (hint: it isn't) | 18:28 |
brousch | They make fertilizer pellets out of the poopy parts | 18:29 |
cmaloney | I figure my little piddlings are helping push along the nuclear shits closer to the treatment plant | 18:29 |
cmaloney | so all in all a net win | 18:29 |
cmaloney | I don't want to be in the same county as my most nuclear of shits, let alone have them fester in the sewer system. | 18:30 |
ColonelPanic001 | I'm just being sarcastic to watch greg-g :( a lot. | 18:30 |
greg-g | :-( | 18:33 |
ColonelPanic001 | yeah, like that | 18:33 |
ColonelPanic001 | I also like to print every email just for easier reading | 18:33 |
greg-g | oh, that one makes sense | 18:34 |
rick_h_ | cmaloney: so erica was asking when the wine tasting is. | 18:34 |
rick_h_ | we ended up joining a wine club for one of the VA wineries we went to | 18:34 |
cmaloney | Oh, nice | 18:36 |
brousch | Traitor! You should be drinking Michigan wines! | 18:36 |
cmaloney | rick_h_: We're still working on it. :) | 18:36 |
rick_h_ | brousch: :P | 18:36 |
rick_h_ | brousch: I've only been to one MI winery and...meh | 18:36 |
rick_h_ | it wasn't http://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/9917148276/ | 18:37 |
brousch | We have dozens of good ones on the best side of the state | 18:37 |
cmaloney | Yeah, there's several good ones | 18:38 |
cmaloney | St. Julian is the most notable | 18:38 |
brousch | I've not been to that one. We usually go North | 18:38 |
brousch | Might be going Tuesday, actually | 18:38 |
rick_h_ | http://www.veritaswines.com/about.htm is where we were and joined the club | 18:39 |
rick_h_ | ah cool | 18:39 |
greg-g | non-CA wine? blasphemy! | 18:39 |
rick_h_ | yea, we should try some other places. All far from here | 18:39 |
rick_h_ | greg-g: heh I know, but getting out there isn't easy | 18:39 |
cmaloney | I've been to Fenn Valley, but as a toungster | 18:39 |
greg-g | :) | 18:39 |
rick_h_ | greg-g: though OR has some good wines out of it | 18:40 |
cmaloney | youngster, even | 18:40 |
greg-g | I'm like 20-30 minutes from Sonoma valley now | 18:40 |
cmaloney | rick_h_: bah, we'll get you on the Michigan bandwagon | 18:40 |
greg-g | rick_h_: yeah, def some good pinot noirs up there | 18:40 |
rick_h_ | greg-g: ok, crash at your place | 18:40 |
greg-g | rick_h_: deal | 18:40 |
rick_h_ | greg-g: pinots are my fav | 18:40 |
greg-g | ditto | 18:40 |
cmaloney | http://www.foodandwine.com/articles/michigan-in-defense-of-b-list-wine-country | 18:41 |
rick_h_ | http://www.closdubois.com/index.cfm? is one of my favs | 18:41 |
cmaloney | http://www.botabox.com/wines/merlot/merlot/2011.aspx | 18:42 |
cmaloney | http://www.botabox.com/wines/riesling/riesling/2012.aspx | 18:42 |
cmaloney | ;) | 18:42 |
rick_h_ | lol | 18:42 |
cmaloney | They're actually quite good | 18:42 |
cmaloney | and not in a "good for a $4 bottle of wine" good. I mean comparable to a $12 of wine. | 18:43 |
cmaloney | Not had their Pinot, so not sure if it's comparable. | 18:44 |
brousch | Fenn Valley is one of our favorites http://lh3.ggpht.com/-Gd2KL-6P9S0/Ue0sujSDw-I/AAAAAAAAFsg/YBrlZn7AiQw/s800/IMG_0039.jpg | 18:44 |
cmaloney | Yeah, they've been around a long time | 18:44 |
cmaloney | http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-y-wine-line-kickoff-29jun29,0,3411633.story | 18:45 |
cmaloney | So don't be dissin' the mitten. ;) | 18:46 |
cmaloney | we're in the same latitude as France, biyatches. | 18:47 |
rick_h_ | lol | 18:47 |
rick_h_ | that food and wine article is good | 18:47 |
rick_h_ | though I do like the mountains backdrop of the VA places we've been to :) | 18:47 |
cmaloney | Well, if you're about mountain backgrops, Michigan isn't going to cut it, certainly. | 18:48 |
cmaloney | But we do have Sleeping Bear Dunes. | 18:48 |
brousch | We have dunes! | 18:48 |
rick_h_ | lol | 18:48 |
brousch | Sand mountains! | 18:48 |
cmaloney | We also don't have mountain drivers | 18:49 |
rick_h_ | http://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/ DC zoo pics up | 18:49 |
cmaloney | who will pass on the left of a two lane precipice | 18:49 |
cmaloney | sorry, left, right, above, below | 18:49 |
cmaloney | And at 80mph | 18:50 |
greg-g | the dunes are indeed awesome | 18:50 |
rick_h_ | yea, we've been looking at campgrounds around there. Might take a trip once the boy is bigger and do the whole 'rent a quad' thing | 18:50 |
greg-g | oooo | 18:51 |
greg-g | real michigan | 18:51 |
greg-g | we just went hiking | 18:51 |
rick_h_ | heh, well I guess the idea is that you can just go nuts on them all over. If you want hiking we hear to stay a bit away from some areas | 18:51 |
greg-g | course, it was 10 degrees out ;) | 18:51 |
rick_h_ | lol, awesome | 18:51 |
jrwren | ugh, i hate it when i wrote some crazy stuff and I don't recall why its crazy. | 19:00 |
jrwren | getattr(something, '')() <-- wtf? | 19:00 |
cmaloney | jrwren: Um... | 19:02 |
cmaloney | What is 'something' supposed to be, and why would it have a blank attribute? :) | 19:02 |
jrwren | its something which has a __getattr__ impl | 19:03 |
jrwren | so name gets passed empty | 19:03 |
jrwren | haha, zomg, this is hacks. | 19:03 |
jrwren | i probably wrote this. | 19:03 |
cmaloney | si si | 19:03 |
* jrwren hangs head in shame | 19:03 | |
brousch | Only you could have crated such a monster? | 19:03 |
jrwren | and it returns a Future(). lolz. | 19:03 |
jrwren | anyone could have. | 19:04 |
cmaloney | No, I think this is all you. | 19:04 |
jrwren | what can I say? when you have a hammer that looks like multi_curl, then everything looks like a nailed url | 19:04 |
cmaloney | I think it's more if you have a jackhammer then everything loos flat. | 19:05 |
cmaloney | s/loos/looks/ | 19:05 |
rick_h_ | jrwren: w...t...f | 19:05 |
cmaloney | and we have the coveted rick_h_ WTF award | 19:05 |
* cmaloney checks to see what the Russian judge has to say | 19:06 | |
jrwren | hehehe. | 19:07 |
cmaloney | какого хрена | 19:07 |
jrwren | yeah, i even left a note of documentation, so my wtf moment didn't last tooo long :) | 19:07 |
jrwren | hey man, a few hundred web requests in a few seconds is pretty good :p | 19:17 |
greg-g | cmaloney: just tell me it wasn't Californication, plz | 21:20 |
cmaloney | Oh hell no | 21:20 |
cmaloney | Mother's Milk of course | 21:21 |
cmaloney | It's the only album of theirs I own | 21:21 |
cmaloney | Used to own Blood Sugar Sex Magick, but then college ended. :) | 21:21 |
greg-g | :) | 21:21 |
cmaloney | I think I listened to that album maybe once or twice in the past 3 months | 21:22 |
cmaloney | not like the Obituary kick I was in | 21:22 |
cmaloney | http://www.last.fm/user/squeekyhoho/library | 21:23 |
cmaloney | Also have a hard time that Vektor only has 57 plays | 21:24 |
cmaloney | I've been playing the fuck out of that album | 21:24 |
greg-g | who owns Last.FM now? | 21:25 |
greg-g | clear channel? | 21:25 |
cmaloney | CBS | 21:25 |
greg-g | same thing, right? | 21:25 |
cmaloney | Don't believe so | 21:25 |
cmaloney | I think they're competitors | 21:26 |
cmaloney | If it was clear channel I'd yank my scrobbles | 21:26 |
cmaloney | Which sounds weird when you say it out loud | 21:27 |
cmaloney | but I did delete my old snapl account on last.fm when they were sold to CBS | 21:27 |
greg-g | heh | 21:28 |
greg-g | gnufm, maaaaan | 21:28 |
cmaloney | If there was a squeezebox plugin that would be easy. :) | 21:28 |
greg-g | you can just set up a /etc/hosts mangler | 21:32 |
greg-g | api compat | 21:32 |
* greg-g doesn't use it | 21:32 | |
cmaloney | Yeah, that means I'd have to start caring. :) | 21:33 |
cmaloney | maybe some day. :) | 21:33 |
greg-g | But the maaan, maaan | 21:33 |
cmaloney | Hey, if I can give CBS marketing data that I'd rather listen to Broken Clown than their radio offerings, then so be it | 21:33 |
cmaloney | 35 listens of Open Metalcast tracks on Last.fm | 21:34 |
cmaloney | I'm sure that is a datapoint. ;) | 21:34 |
greg-g | you should keep your data, maaan | 21:35 |
cmaloney | but how am I going to stick it to the man if the man isn't getting the data maaaaan? | 21:37 |
cmaloney | so they can know that I like cajun underground funkadelic thrash black metal? | 21:37 |
greg-g | I could say "the maaan, maan" all day | 21:38 |
cmaloney | Only if you don't want me to make a trip out to your laptop to throw it into the ocean. :) | 21:39 |
greg-g | just don't do it today, kinda crappy/foggy out here, make the trip to the beach worth it | 21:40 |
cmaloney | Oh, good to know | 21:40 |
cmaloney | thanks maaaaaaaan | 21:40 |
greg-g | you're welcome, maaaan | 21:41 |
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