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rogerthebirdhello00:02
rogerthebirdhi wzin00:02
dman777hi, i am trying to reinstall nginx along with getting the stock configuration nginx.conf file. i tried apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install nginx but i still do not have a nginx.conf file00:03
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dman777i do a apt-get purge nginx and it saids it removes nginx but when i do which nginx it shows it's still installed00:08
jiuj9i support vivisection00:10
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Andres_Ramahello?00:11
hylianAndres_Rama: hello00:11
Andres_Ramawindows n00b here. Why in the hell uis the ubuntu install an iso file00:11
jiuj9so you are new to windows?00:12
Andres_Ramalol00:12
Andres_Ramano00:12
jiuj9don't worry, it's quite user friendly00:12
Andres_Ramajust not very familiar with Linux00:12
hylianAndres_Rama: it allows you to put it on the media of your choice, i.e. burning it to cd/dvd, or putting it on a usb thumb drive...00:12
jiuj9then why to use it? go back to windows00:12
Andres_Ramabecause it has a lot of advantadges00:13
Andres_Ramaone of which is the apt-get install command00:13
Andres_Ramai have used ubuntu tocode before00:13
Andres_Ramai still do00:13
Andres_Ramai have it on my laptop00:13
Andres_Ramabut when i tried to install on my desktop00:13
Andres_Ramait wouldnt work00:13
FloodBot1Andres_Rama: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:13
hylianAndres_Rama: well, the first question would be how did you mount it, did you put it on a dvd? usb thumb drive? did you get the 32 bit or the 64 bit version?00:14
jiuj9Andres_Rama, your questions are annoiyng, switch to windows and don't bother us anymore00:15
hylianjiuj9: he left00:15
jiuj9good00:15
hyliananyone use irssi like me?00:18
LaogeodrittI'm trying to build ntopng from source (want to take the new release for a test run, apt has an older ntop) and I'm having problems building the deb package from the ntopng-provided ubuntu configure/make. The script is running "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc -d".  "dpkg-deb" is outputting to ../ntopng_1.0_i386.deb but then dpkg-genchanges is called and complains: "error: cannot fstat file00:21
Laogeodritt../ntopng_1.0-_i386.deb". Any ideas how I might fix this or where to look? I'm not too familiar with dpkg... [This is on ubuntu server; however, the issue seems general enough to ask here.]00:21
hylianLaogeodritt: never messed with it, but let me see if i can dig up that error and get an idea what direction to look...00:23
Laogeodritthylian: thanks. It seems like a misconfig of ntopng's build somewhere (outputting to one filename and searching for another), but I have no idea where it would be configured and my attempts at Googling haven't brought much up.00:25
hylianLaogeodritt: it looks like we are missing something here. the file name gives it away.. ntopng_1.0-_i386.deb should be something like ntopng_1.0-1_i386.deb. not certain why ths is happening though00:27
Laogeodritthylian: hm, okay. Up to that error it generates an ntopng_1.0_i386.deb file (plus ntopng_1.0-_i386.changes and ntopng_1.0-.tar.gz) ... no other deb00:28
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hylianLaogeodritt: yeah, the file name it should want to generate would be something like this: ntopng_1.0.1-6686_i386.deb00:29
hylianLaogeodritt: it looks like what goes after the - is perhaps a version number... i know it's not archetecture, that's the i386 part... not much help, sorry.00:30
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slugbughow does one move the dir of /var/www to another harddrive in the linux box00:32
jboiihi00:32
hylianjboii: hello again00:32
slugbugif my OS drive is only 60gb and I have a additional drive of 500gb I want to move the dir to the 500gb drive00:32
jboiiis it possible to theme rhythmbox?00:32
hylianslugbug: hmm, never had anyone ask that before... i could try and dig up some info00:33
qinslugbug: change document root in web server?00:34
Dr_Willisslugbug:  mount the partion on the other drive to /var/www would be one way00:34
slugbugyes00:34
hylianjboii: a quick check says no. Rhythmbox was not made to be theme-able.00:34
Dr_Willisor put all of /var/ on the other drive00:34
slugbugI've read stuff that says to go in and change the ini file but I ended up ruining the boot00:35
lazerssbcl never00:35
jboiiis there a music player that has a nice theme ?00:35
foriamrootdepends on your definition of nice00:36
Laogeodritthylian: anyway, thanks for looking. I'll keep trying to figure this out.00:36
ShapeShifter499hi00:36
qinjboii: amarok looks posh00:36
lazers(Sorry. Wrong command).00:36
hylianLaogeodritt: Dr_Willis is much more afluent in all this, you should re-ask him00:36
ShapeShifter499although my system, a netbook server, should auto login at boot it has a log in prompt on the connected screen, a tv, why?00:37
ShapeShifter499I'm running ubuntu 13.04 32bit on this machine00:37
skinuxWow. That was weird. Ubuntu started complaining hard disk was full, deleting some stuff and restarted and a lot of settings seem to have been reset to default00:39
foriamrootanything in ~00:39
foriamrootdid you delete anything in ~00:39
nisstyreskinux: laptop?00:39
skinuxYeah.00:39
nisstyreskinux: it could be this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119615500:39
skinuxto laptop00:39
ubottuUbuntu bug 1196155 in linux (Ubuntu) "mei_me resets spamming dmesg" [Medium,Fix released]00:39
foriamrootserver install or desktop install00:40
skinuxdesktop00:40
nisstyreit most likely is that bug tbh00:40
foriamroot^00:40
nisstyreif it's not a laptop then it probably is not that bug though00:40
nisstyrewell, it could be00:41
nisstyreskinux: what files did you delete?00:41
skinuxDamn. It deleted a lot of stuff.00:45
Dr_Willisruining the boot by changeing a single file? make backups of the origial file - so you can change it back. ;)00:45
ShapeShifter499anyone know why I'm logged in on the main screen but not on a connected screen (a tv)?00:45
Dr_WillisShapeShifter499:  a server normally dosent need a login display manager/gui. or the need to auto login.00:46
nisstyreskinux: can you see if you have a lot of huge log files under /var/log?00:46
Dr_WillisShapeShifter499:  what login manager are you using? Lightdm?00:46
foriamroothe did say server which confused me until he said its a desktop install00:46
ShapeShifter499Dr_Willis, this is a regular  desktop install with added server stuff00:46
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nisstyrethat stupid intel bug bit me on my laptop and I ended up with a missing grub.cfg somehow00:46
Dr_Willislightdm has settings (you can set in the users config tool) to select what user to auto login.00:46
nisstyreand a 3 gb messages.log00:46
ShapeShifter499Dr_Willis, I'm set to auto login, I see my desktop and unity on the main netbook screen00:47
ShapeShifter499my connected screen shows a log in00:47
Abbey21Hey00:47
XerofyteIs there any channel or FreeNode which tells about latest softwares for Ubuntu/linux00:47
Dr_WillisShapeShifter499:  you mean a CONSOLE   'login;'  >00:48
Dr_WillisShapeShifter499:  set the monitors to clone the X display if you want to see X on both perhaps?00:48
ShapeShifter499Dr_Willis, just the regular GUI login00:48
foriamrootif its a console login think its just the standard login he is seeing00:48
Dr_WillisShapeShifter499:  then you really need to clarify what youi are seeing exactly.. you said it auto logins on one monitor.. but it shows the login screen (lightdm?) on one monitor? that would sound like the 2~ seperate X displays setting  you can use for some multi-mnonitor setups00:49
foriamrootagreed00:49
foriamrootset to mirror not seperate x00:50
Dr_Willisturn off the TV ;000:50
SquishyHi everyone.00:51
foriamrootHello00:51
ShapeShifter499Dr_Willis, foriamroot wait so how do I fix that00:52
SquishyNew to Ubuntu/Linux in general so bear with me if i say/do something stupid.00:52
ShapeShifter499?00:52
foriamrootwhat are you using to manage your graphics? nvidia? compiz?00:52
foriamrootfor me its in nvidia-settings00:53
foriamrootyour mileage may vary00:53
ShapeShifter499foriamroot, this is a cruddy intel atom based acer aspire one netbook00:53
ShapeShifter499foriamroot, I was planning on running XBMC on this00:54
ShapeShifter499up until recently I never even used the VGA port00:54
foriamrootwhy xbmc?00:54
foriamrootyou can try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145793100:55
foriamroota quick google pulled that one up00:55
pack^wonder how steam will run on mer?00:55
foriamrooti thought it was staying with X for now?00:55
foriamrootSteam OS anyway00:55
pack^will change in March 1400:56
foriamrootgotcha00:56
foriamrootThat I hadnt heard yet00:56
finchdpack^: wonder *if* steam will run on *mir*?00:56
pack^good question00:56
pack^or wayland00:56
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foriamrootxmir?00:57
strider_I need to do a project for a server class I'm taking but I can't think of any ideas for the project. The project must require two servers to function correctly, but I can't think of anything. Could anyone give me any ideas?00:58
foriamrootrequires 2 servers to function?00:58
foriamrootconnecting two LAN's via a VPN tunnel00:58
foriamrooti.e. 2 remote offices00:58
foriamrootfairly easy00:58
jboii_is there an app that can search mp3 files and movies to download?00:58
jribstrider_: put db on one server, web server on other, done00:59
foriamrootas in?00:59
foriamrootjboii_: piracy is a no no00:59
Dr_WillisShapeShifter499:  so what do you want on the vga port? you have described whats going on.. but not what you want.00:59
foriamroothe wants dual display *i think* to play movies on his TV00:59
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Dr_Willisthen the answer is - use the monitors tool to set the dual displays how you want. ;) that will be the answer for most cases01:00
strider_foriamroot: jrib: it has to last 12 weeks (for the full implimentation), so I don't want it to be too easy. Also, it would be preferable if both systems were on the same network already (I'm probably going to just virtualize them on a box I have). I was thinking of something like a condor cluster, but that might be too complex for some of my teammates, and it would be almost poitless to do it with only two systems01:00
foriamrootit would be01:01
ShapeShifter499Dr_Willis, I opened the display tool in system settings and I've now lost all output01:01
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jribstrider_: this is a question more appropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic01:01
strider_jrib: ah, sorry I'll go there instead01:01
ShapeShifter499Dr_Willis, I wanted to run a media center like XBMC01:01
strider_completely forgot about that channel01:01
LjLjrib, my credit card number is 2394-2384-9658-2394 365, can you look in your logs if there's any trick to use it to buy things from Ubuntu One?01:02
Dr_WillisShapeShifter499:  you  mean 'run xbmc on the 2nd monitor (tv), while having a normal desktop on the built in lcd'  ? If so. please be more detailed like that. ;)01:02
jribLjL: sure one second, but first there's a book i've been meaning to pick up01:02
foriamrootlol01:02
ShapeShifter499Dr_Willis, the main screen can be off or blank, that isn't needed, the other screen (tv) should have the XMBC on it01:02
Dr_WillisShapeShifter499:  tried the monitor-selection/toggle keys on the netbook?  fn-Fsomthing here on mine.01:03
ShapeShifter499Dr_Willis, wait a second01:04
jmgkhiya Dr_Willis01:05
Dr_Willismoo. ;01:05
Dr_Willis;01:05
foriamroothmmm01:06
SquishySorry I don't mean to rudely butt in here but could someone recommend an easier to use irc client? I'm on weechat and totally lost. thanks.01:06
foriamrootirssi01:06
foriamroot:D01:06
Dr_Willisi like weechat. :) Im using it now.01:06
Dr_Willisyou do want to read its docs however. ;)01:06
jmgkbleh :P01:07
foriamrootim a simple person so i prefer irssi01:07
SquishyI read them. looked like gibberish to me.01:07
foriamrootto each his own01:07
Dr_Willisman up! :)01:07
kaltagxchat01:07
omar_Hi!!!01:07
Dr_Willisfor a gui client - xchat is popular.. and plkease read its docs/faq also. ;)01:07
Dr_Willisweechat does have a gui i recall. but its not in the repos  (yet) i saw it mentioned at the weechat hojmepage/downloads01:08
finchdSquishy: quassel for IRC only or pidgin is IM of all kinds, there's the IRC plugins for Firefox & thunderbird also.01:10
SquishyI'm going to try irssi. I used icechat on windows a lot. That's all i'm used to. used Chatzilla as well. Not a big fan but seems easier that weechat just now.01:10
foriamrootor just use a web client01:11
jmgkwhat do you prefer for coding?01:11
jmgkdesktop or laptop guys?01:11
ShapeShifter499Dr_Willis, that didn't work01:11
Dr_Willisi perfer to let others do the coding.01:11
jmgk:P01:11
foriamrootlmao01:11
SquishyThanks finchd. i'll give that a look at.01:11
orated_Hi! How can I extract/cut an image from a video file?01:14
orated_any GUI based software for that?01:14
foriamrootprint screen01:14
foriamrootor ffmpeg to extract the entire video / or clip to still01:14
orated_without using printscreen :) Anything like ImageGrab?01:15
baphomet1is anyone here familiar with connecting an ubuntu client using vpnc to an ipsec vpn setup with openswan?01:15
foriamrootbaphomet1: whats the issue01:15
foriamrootone sec orated_01:15
baphomet1foriamroot: can't get it to connect.  windows, osx and iOS clients connect fine.  the ubuntu client is the only one that will not connect01:16
Squishyorated you can use virtualdub under wine for that or avidemux01:16
foriamrootavidemux is what i was thinking of01:16
Tex_Nickorated_:  VLC allows frame screen captures01:16
foriamrootwhats the error baphomet1? in the log of the vpn server01:16
Squishyoh i forgot about that. I never use that feature of VLC01:16
foriamrootshould tell you why01:16
baphomet1foriamroot: hmm.  I have only been looking at the client.  let me see if I can find the logs on the server01:17
foriamrootme either. i have used ffmpeg to get stills from video01:17
foriamrootcheck /var/log/ think its auth.log maybe01:18
baphomet1foriamroot: let me have a look.01:18
foriamroothave fun01:18
Squishyi'd be lost trying to do that. Is staxrip compatible with Ubuntu?01:18
Tex_Nickffmpeg is also what i use ... it's not GUI though01:18
foriamrootmeh gui is overrated lol01:18
Tex_Nicklol ;-)01:18
baphomet1foriamroot: let me try to connect the client to the server and see what happens.  I haven't tried in a bit.01:19
Tex_Nickit's what orated_ requested though01:19
foriamrootgood point Tex01:19
foriamrootgo for it baphomet101:19
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Squishyorated you could also try pitivi. I'm not 100% on that though.01:22
baphomet1foriamroot: noting in auth.log01:22
foriamrootreally?01:23
baphomet1foriamroot: yep01:23
Braden`Hello01:23
reisio'lo Braden`01:23
baphomet1foriamroot: I am thinking this is a client side issue01:23
Braden`I am not sure where to ask this, so I will try here.  How does Facebook/etc set up their DNS so that if one server goes down the domain gets redirected to their other servers?  Should I have a server set up with BIND to handle nameserver requests rather than relying on ISP provided name services?01:24
foriamrootor a cert issue01:24
baphomet1foriamroot: I don't understand how it could be a cert issue if I can connect windows, osx and iOS clients just fine.01:25
foriamrootdifferent cert for each client?01:25
foriamrootor psk?01:25
baphomet1foriamroot: psk01:25
foriamrootmy misunderstanding01:25
linuxRhello, I discover total system freezes when working with eclipse (ubuntu 12.04 with all updates installed). can someone help me to analyze this? thanks01:25
foriamrootthen def. client if other clients can connect01:25
SquishyAhh nice. Quassel seems much easier to be using.01:26
baphomet1foriamroot: any suggestions? :D01:26
orated_Squishy: Is avidemux gui based or cli based?01:26
foriamrootorated_: both01:26
foriamrootbaphomet1: one sec01:26
baphomet1foriamroot: thanks! :D01:27
Squishyit's gui based. Everything i recommended is.01:27
reisioorated_: ffmpeg has a pretty fast way if you just need a solid block from the middle of someplace01:27
Squishysudo apt-get install avidemux.01:27
SquishyThat's all you need to do.01:27
orated_So it can help easily fetch image sequence out of a video file?01:27
reisioyup01:27
orated_Okay01:27
orated_Thanks01:27
Squishyit's been a few years since i used it. I use virtualdub.01:28
foriamroothttp://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/doku.php?id=using:command_line_usage01:28
foriamrootavidemux is both01:28
reisioffmpeg -i input -ss 00:01:30 -t 00:01:00 %d.jpg (would, for example, start 1m30s in, and dump each frame for 1m01:28
SquishyI would honestly recommend virtualdub and wine over anything else mate.01:28
SquishyYou can trust me. I'm from Scotland.01:28
reisio) :p01:28
reisioI wouldn't even use virtualdub inside an actual Windows install :p01:28
SquishyWhy not?01:29
foriamrootbaphomet1: and no error was returned on the client side?01:29
pfifohello world01:29
baphomet1foriamroot: let me gather the info01:29
xmetalVdub looks ok and i think it has some good ways of editing videos but on windows when i got to save the file product it crashes a bit01:29
xmetallol01:29
reisiopfifo: 'lo01:29
reisioSquishy: not remotely as useful/reliable as ffmpeg01:30
orated_Squishy: foriamroot reisio Also, there is an option of converting a video file to image sequence using OpenShot video editor but it probably seems to create image sequence of entire video with less than 1s gap01:30
foriamrootto do the entire video to still with < 1 sec gap use fmpeg01:31
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foriamrootffmpeg*01:31
foriamroototherwise use one of the aforementioned softwares01:32
foriamrooti cant type01:32
Tex_Nickhmmm ... i loved virtualdub ... didn't realize it worked okunder wine ... thanks for the thought on that Squishy :)01:32
ax562hi01:32
* reisio headdesks01:32
reisioax562: hibari01:32
reisiohi, eben :p01:32
baphomet1foriamroot: all it says is "vpnc: no response from target"01:33
baphomet1foriamroot: I have searched that exact error and most of the threads all go unanswered.  I have seen some suggestions about how to resolve it, but none of them work for me01:34
foriamrootis the ip right?01:34
foriamrootmeans the server didnt respond or timed out01:34
foriamrootttl exceeded, etc01:34
Squishyno worries nick.01:34
baphomet1foriamroot: it is using dynamic dns01:34
foriamrootcheck that your dyndns is updated01:35
foriamrootmine doesnt update right sometimes01:35
_DMcouldn't you connect directly to the IP rather than going through dns01:35
XerofyteCan anyone please tell me How can I install Ubuntu Tweak on 12.04 LTS01:35
foriamrootit changes01:35
_DMor do I have no clue what I'm talking about01:35
baphomet1foriamroot: I just tried connecting to the VPN from a different client (not linux) and it connected fine.01:35
foriamroothe would have to redo the config all the time01:35
Squishythe only time vdub ever crashed on me was if i tried to encode a video with incompatible parameters.01:35
foriamrootfirewall / iptables?01:36
foriamrootsomething is stopping it from communicating01:36
baphomet1foriamroot: I agree that something is stopping it and it has to be on the client side.01:36
foriamrootit is01:36
foriamrootas in it is client side01:36
foriamrootcheck the iptables on the client01:36
foriamrootand check ufw(?)01:37
Tex_NickSquishy:  i'll give it a try on wine ... i used it a lot on win xp01:37
baphomet1foriamroot: ufw should be disabled.  I just had it spit out a verbose log.  hang on01:37
foriamrootnice01:37
SquishyXP? i remember that...ahh nostalgia01:38
Tex_Nicklol ;-)01:38
foriamrootmeh xp was garbage01:38
foriamrootone of my first exploits i found though01:38
foriamrootat XX:XX /interactive "cmd.exe"01:39
foriamrootloved the broken task scheduling in windows01:39
Squishyi used it for a while after win7 came out before i made the move01:39
Tex_Nickhmmm i kinda thought it was one of microsoft's better OS's ?01:39
foriamrootnah more backdoors than a whore house01:39
foriamrootjus sayin01:39
Squishylol i'm using that expression from now on01:39
foriamrootlol01:40
qinis not like off-topic or something?01:40
Tex_Nickok ... i have to agree there01:40
TheLordOfTimehow do I terminate a zombie process?01:40
Tex_Nickbut hey windows aint linux !!!01:40
foriamrootfind then kill01:40
foriamrootkill `pgrep name_of_zombie`01:40
qinTheLordOfTime: you cannot kill zombie, can yaa?01:40
xmetalshoot it in the head01:40
foriamroot^01:41
cryptacklol01:41
xmetal... oh zombie PROCESS01:41
xmetaln/m01:41
foriamrootlol01:41
baphomet1hahah that was the best response ever01:41
TheLordOfTimeqin, that's not helpful.01:41
TheLordOfTimexmetal, same thing, not helpful01:41
TheLordOfTimelet's focus on SUPPORt and not offtopic, 'kay?01:41
foriamrootTheLordOfTime: kill `pgrep name_of_zombie`01:42
* xmetal laughs01:42
foriamrootrun in terminal01:42
reisiotechnically they're already dead01:42
qinTheLordOfTime: Well, that is why such process is called zombie ;)01:42
cryptackforiamroot: I thought you had to use a -901:42
foriamroot?01:42
foriamroota 901:42
foriamrootgotcha01:42
foriamrootlol01:42
FloodBot1foriamroot: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:42
xmetalif a process was "alive" your computer could get up and run right off your desk01:42
jj1234hi, trying to work out some SGX drivers and I'm a little confused, anyone know how glxinfo could report "direct rendering: yes" but still say it's using a software rasterizer?01:42
foriamrootAnything you say (ir)COPer!01:43
xmetalbrb ... looking for "the best" url shortener (FIrefox addon)01:43
SchrodingersScatxmetal: I keep a net around my desk for processes trying to kill themselves in that way.01:44
baphomet1foriamroot: shoot.  having to redo this and have it output to a file.  the verbose log is REALLY verbose haha01:44
foriamrootnice01:44
xmetallol01:45
Braden`foriamroot:  An ircop is a person with global mode +O or +o (locop) with network wide discretion to re-route servers and disconnect clients.  Floodbot is a channop, not ircop.01:47
foriamrooti know what an op is01:48
foriamrootand founder . owner01:48
foriamrootmode +qaohv meh01:49
foriamrooti was pointing out the bot was +o01:49
foriamrootthats why (ir) was in () and not ir.01:50
Braden`:)01:51
foriamroot;D01:51
foriamroot6693 FTW!01:51
qinforiamroot: floodbot wanted to point out existence of ",.;" etc, in aproximation of "Enter" key.01:51
foriamrootUse to more "lax" channels. Sorry.01:52
baphomet1foriamroot: yeah…I can't make heads or tails of this log01:52
foriamrootpastebin if you don;t mide. After scrubbing of course.01:53
foriamrootdon't mind* And scrub as in remove ip / hostname, etc.01:53
LogicalDashMy computer docks with an Android tablet that is its display. As a display it works fine, but it's also supposed to be a touchscreen, and while Ubuntu can see the touch panel, it keeps disconnecting with status -71 right after connecting. What's this about?01:56
baphomet1foriamroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6173826/01:56
pfifonothing like an informative log file01:58
foriamrootare the subnets the same at both locations? i.e. 192.168.1.1/2401:58
baphomet1foriamroot: no.01:58
baphomet1foriamroot: it's not a problem with other clients though.01:58
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foriamrootthe same subnet at both locations isn't a problem?01:59
baphomet1foriamroot: Sorry to not be clear.  different subnets is no issue with other clients.02:01
foriamrootyou need different subnets at the different locations. Same subnet causes issues with NAT traversal.02:01
foriamrootAnd you reserved enough addresses on the server?02:02
baphomet1foriamroot: yep.  I ran in to that.  changed my network scheme to compensate.02:02
foriamrootI had to as well when i set mine up.02:02
baphomet1foriamroot: only one client connecting.  that was the one I just tried to connect with.02:02
foriamrootHow many addresses reserved? You just said the ohter client(s) were connecting no issue.02:03
baphomet1TBH I am not sure.  The iOS client I used to test the connection connected fine, then I disconnected it.02:03
baphomet1foriamroot: any way for me to check the amount of addresses reserved?02:04
foriamrootThis looks like it is communicating just fine. i.e. It is receiving packets.02:04
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foriamrootcheck your configuration file for openswan and look at the range of ip's02:04
baphomet1foriamroot: that is good.  now getting it connected is the issue02:05
foriamroottry restarting openswan service and then connecting with ubuntu without connecting the ios device02:06
baphomet1foriamroot: ok.  hang on02:06
baphomet1foriamroot: same results02:08
foriamrootreally?02:08
foriamrootthen i am at a loss02:08
foriamrootIt looks like it is communicating just not receiving an address. Packets are being sent / received.02:09
baphomet1foriamroot: yeah.  this is typically how it has ended for most people :(.02:09
foriamrootNo part of the exchange fails. Everything looks kosher.02:09
baphomet1foriamroot: good to know.  I wasn't sure it was actually getting that far02:10
foriamrootLooks like it is. It exchanges just fine and receives without error.02:11
foriamrootso IPsec is good.02:11
foriamrootYou checked the config for authmode?02:12
foriamrootOn the server and client>02:12
baphomet1foriamroot: I also tried to connect using my public IP, to take the ddns out of the equation and it still wouldn't connect.02:12
baphomet1foriamroot: on the client I modified the config file and set it to PSK.  how would I check it on the server? (I am sure it is PSK, but being sure doesn't hurt)02:12
foriamrootNot auth type but authmode. I.e. IKE Authmode hybrid.02:13
baphomet1yeah.  I just changed it from hybrid to psk02:14
baphomet1I left the IKE Authmode there02:14
baphomet1only changed the part that said "hybrid"02:14
foriamrootin the vpnc conf?02:14
baphomet1would the conf file for it on the server be in /etc/?02:14
foriamrootFirst how is the VPN setup? Assuming you are using L2TP/IPSec?02:16
baphomet1foriamroot: this I am not sure of.  I know it is IPSec.  Not sure if it is over L2TP or not.  This is running on ubuntu with Amahi.  I used the amahi ipsec one click install app to set it up.  that is why I don't have a lot of info.02:17
foriamrootL2TP is the "VPN" IPSec is the encryption.02:17
genoobiehey all02:18
genoobietrying to install clonezilla on a usb (i.e. make bootable)02:18
genoobiebbl02:18
baphomet1foriamroot: thanks!  I didn't know that.  in that case it is l2tp/ipsec for sure02:18
foriamrootThats what I thought.02:18
foriamrootYou need to change the vpnc.conf back to hybrid.02:19
baphomet1foriamroot: on the client?02:19
foriamrootYes02:19
foriamrootvpnc is the client. openswan is the server02:19
foriamrootI hope anyway. Otherwise you have different issues,02:19
baphomet1foriamroot: that is how I usually run it.  I had to edit the conf file so I could push the output to a log file.  I typically set all this up using vpnc in network manager02:20
foriamrootSo the same configuration has worked on other machines?02:22
baphomet1foriamroot: well that is subjective.  I have not been able to get any linux client to connect.  I am able to get everything but linux clients to connect.  so if by config you mean settings as close as possible as to what I see in network manager, in that case, yes.02:23
foriamrootIn the vpnc.conf file you should have the gateway, the ipsec secret, the authmode, then the username / password (if used)02:23
baphomet1foriamroot: yep02:23
foriamrootAnd you still can't connect?02:24
baphomet1foriamroot: nope.  that has been the issue all along.02:24
foriamrootThen I'm not sure what's going on. IPSec is working. vpnc isn't connecting.02:26
foriamrootI'll see what I can figure out.02:26
foriamrootbbl02:26
baphomet1foriamroot: thanks!02:26
LogicalDashAight I posted to forums http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=14636002:26
LogicalDashoh, wrong window02:27
LogicalDashsorry02:27
joe18Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GF119 [GeForce GT 520] bus-ID 01:00.002:28
joe18           X.Org 1.13.3 drivers nvidia (unloaded: fbdev,nouveau) FAILED: vesa Resolution 1920x1080@60.0hz02:28
joe18           GLX Renderer GeForce GT 520/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version 4.3.0 NVIDIA 310.44 Direct Rendering Yes02:28
Guest55469Is this a general linux/programming irc or is it specific to Ubuntu?02:35
marloshouseGuest55469, you mean like a c++ programming irc?02:36
Guest55469ya02:36
marloshousecuz linux can be programmed in just about anthing02:36
Guest55469I meant linux OR programming, not linux programming02:36
* xmetal scratches head02:37
marloshousei guess to answer your question, then, I think this channel is mostly specific to ubuntu, though, you might ask the question and see what happens02:38
Guest55469I'm new to irc in general, so excuse me if I seem like a novice haha02:38
Guest55469for some reason ##c++ is not working02:38
xmetal!ask02:38
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience02:38
xmetal hmm bot must be on break02:38
xmetalhmm @ a Csharp and cplusplus room  ##C++## ??02:39
xmetallol02:39
marloshouseGuest55469, anyway, the key is to just ask and see what happens... since you're new02:40
Guest55469cool02:40
Guest55469Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is this channel specifically for asking questions, or is it just a casual discussion channel?02:41
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marloshouseGuest55469, is that your question?02:41
Jayhawker07ya02:41
FlannelGuest55469: It's for technical support.  For discussion, you're looking for #ubuntu-offtopic02:41
Jayhawker07I was guest55469, changed my nickname02:41
marloshousethis is a channel for asking questions02:41
Jayhawker07ok thanks!02:42
* xmetal "headdesks"02:42
marloshousei dd a drive that I lost a text file on, I think it was stomped on by dropbox.  I'm trying to scan the image now to see if i can find any of the missing text... what's the best tool to search for some text on a dd image file?02:43
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Guest38841is ubuntu 100% virus safe02:46
bluedogslimThats a good question02:46
lotuspsychje!security | Guest3884102:46
ubottuGuest38841: Security Updates are dealt with here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server02:46
lotuspsychje!info clamav | Guest3884102:46
ubottuGuest38841: clamav (source: clamav): anti-virus utility for Unix - command-line interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97.8+dfsg-1ubuntu1.13.04.1 (raring), package size 124 kB, installed size 564 kB02:46
Guest38841thanks for the response everyone.02:47
xmetal!virus02:48
ubottuAntivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus02:48
lotuspsychjeGuest38841: ubuntu is built very secure, but a healthy paranoia cant harm :p02:48
* xmetal agrees with lotus02:48
lotuspsychjeGuest38841: read also about snort and rkhunter02:48
xmetalhealthy is the keyword ... no need to walk around going "WHAT!? ... whats that!?"02:48
xmetallol02:48
marloshousejust because i'm paranoid doesn't someone's not trying to hack in to my computer02:50
Guest38841thanks again. bye02:50
marloshouse doesn't mean... i meant02:51
marloshousesomething's up with my keyword, it skips entire words!02:51
lotuspsychjemarloshouse: alot of automatic exploiting out there..so a healthy paranoia Is needed02:52
bluedogslimYou need to be paranoid?02:52
bluedogslimWhy?02:52
bluedogslimJust turn off your computer.02:52
bluedogslimand they can't get anything.02:52
lotuspsychjebluedogslim: well in reality we need to work with ubuntu online so..02:53
lotuspsychjebluedogslim: all the time online you can use it a safe way no?02:53
bluedogslimIs it hard to host your own cloud on ubuntu?02:53
marloshousebluedogslim, opencloud02:53
Dr_Willisbluedogslim:  i recall there being an  opencloud service. :) not tried it02:53
Dr_Willis!info opencloud02:54
marloshousei've tried it02:54
ubottuPackage opencloud does not exist in raring02:54
marloshouseit works02:54
marloshousei'm happy with it02:54
Dr_Willisisen there like 2 or 3 alternative 'personal cloud' serivvces out there?  i rarely need the things.02:54
* lotuspsychje doesnt trust clouds online :p02:55
xmetali am not a fan of clouds02:55
xmetalsame here02:55
bluedogslimopen cloud is good?02:55
Dr_Willisi just store my comic books and e-books on them . so i can get to them from my tablets :) or phone02:55
bluedogslimClouds are great.  You can have everything - everywhere.02:55
bluedogslimBut - you gotta be careful what you keep on them :)02:55
bluedogslimI wondering how secure they are.02:56
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lotuspsychjeDr_Willis: i found a solarized/dark theme for my terminal the other day was pretty neat :p02:56
xmetali have seen people with the bright idea of uploading backups they need if thier PC goes down TO clouds only ... my question is "if your PC is down (assuming its your only one) .. how the heck are you going to get the recovery data?"02:56
marloshousexmetal, exactly the lecture i give my clients02:56
bluedogslimIf you house your own cloud then you have no limit to the space.02:57
bluedogslimhost.02:57
xmetali mean if the cloud for non-critical stuff is one option and you ALSO have  backup "flash drives too"02:57
xmetalok ok i can see that02:57
Dr_Willisif you can afford the HDs' ;)02:57
marloshousehd are dirt cheap02:57
xmetalbut not "cloud only" is my point02:57
lotuspsychjelets move this to offtopic guys02:57
jmgkhey Dr_Willis  do you have a custom built PC or?02:57
Dr_WillisI got stuff on the cloud to make getting the stuff from my tablets or pcs easier02:58
Dr_Willisjmgk:  im on my raspberry-pi right now. ;)02:58
bluedogslimDr_Willis - which cloud are you using?02:58
jmgknice02:58
bluedogslimThats sweet.  Rasberry pii02:58
lotuspsychje!cloud02:58
ubottuThe Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud (UEC), powered by Eucalyptus, is highly configurable and customizable to a variety of environments. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC02:58
jmgkDr_Willis, care if I pm ya?02:58
Dr_Willisbluedogslim:  i got junnk on most all the common clouds. :)  im seeing Ubuntu One getting more and more 'supported' by my android apps as well. WHich is nice02:59
marloshousei read a not so flattering article on the decline of ubuntu the other day03:00
bluedogslimDr_willis - Sweet. Can you host the UEC cloud on standard install of 13.04 or do you need a server verision?03:00
marloshousemade it sound like there's a lot of infighting going on03:00
marloshousewithin the organization03:00
Dr_Willisbluedogslim:   desktop setup should be able to run any services the service edition can.03:00
xmetalhmm i need to get on SpotChat and ask if version 16 of "that other distro" will be LTS03:00
lotuspsychjemarloshouse: lets discuss such in #ubuntu-offtopic please03:00
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marloshousefair enough03:03
bluedogslimIS openstack also a cloud admin03:07
bluedogslim?03:07
cfhowlett!openstack|bluedogslim,03:08
cfhowlettbluedogslim, http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/openstack03:09
lotuspsychjeanyone seen one of those warnings? [WARNING:flash/platform/pepper/pep_module.cpp(63)] SANDBOXED03:10
lotuspsychjeim browsing on chrome03:11
xmetali have never liked any of the chrome "based" browsers here, so I dont know03:11
cfhowlettlotuspsychje, never seen it03:11
lotuspsychjemaybe chrome got sandbox method for dangerous flash items?03:12
qubitsHey guys03:12
qubitsI have a raid 1 set and on boot it says one disk is  a non raid memeber03:13
cfhowlett!raid|qubits,03:13
ubottuqubits,: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto03:13
qubitsSo the array is in failed status03:13
qubitsThanks03:13
cfhowlettqubits, might also want to check in at #ubuntu-server03:13
dinosaurvskittenHow can I disable 802.11n with the brcmsmac driver? It's incredibly flaky.03:19
reisioyou need the driver for something else?03:19
dinosaurvskittenwell yeah, for my wifi connection03:19
dinosaurvskittenI just want it to stick to 802.11g03:19
dinosaurvskittenI know some of the other wifi drivers have options to disable n specifically, but those don't seem to work with brcmsmac03:20
reisiodinosaurvskitten: is i open source?03:22
reisioit*03:22
dinosaurvskittenreisio: yes03:24
mojtabahi03:24
reisiodinosaurvskitten: that should make it pretty simple, then03:25
reisiomojtaba: heyo03:25
mojtabahappy freedom software day03:25
reisiois that today?03:25
reisioor every day? :)03:25
mojtabareisio: That was yesterday. :)03:25
mojtabayou are right03:26
cfhowlettmojtaba, I'm in China.  Slipped my mind as it's not on the calendar.  :)03:26
reisioyesterday the 29th?03:26
mojtaba28th03:26
reisioawe03:26
Iordanisfhow to install opencl on ubuntu03:30
Iordanisfhow to install c compiler as well03:30
cfhowlett!info opencl03:30
ubottuPackage opencl does not exist in raring03:30
cfhowlettIordanisf, usually sudo apt-get install03:30
Skaperenmy sources.list file got deleted ... is there a place I can get a replacement for natty/11.04 ?03:30
jayhawker07Iordanisf, apt-get install gcc?03:30
cfhowlett!natty|Skaperen,03:31
ubottuSkaperen,: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) was the fourteenth release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on 2012-10-28, see http://ubottu.com/y/natty for details.03:31
somsipIordanisf: you'll be doing this manulaly by the look of this http://is.gd/0J7JuH03:31
Skaperencfhowlett: they don't explain how to do the upgrade w/o sources.list03:32
cfhowlettSkaperen, you are aware that natty is End of Life and unsupported?03:32
XerofyteI am getting this Error 'Error: BrokeCount>0' your installed packages have unmet dependencies. the last thing I remember I wanted to Install chromium-browser.03:32
cfhowlettSkaperen, but here's a tool that might do it    http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php03:32
Skaperencfhowlett: which is why I want to upgrade03:33
SkaperenI believe that recovering the sources.list file will be a next step03:33
qinSkaperen: http://askubuntu.com/questions/40512/i-need-the-default-set-of-software-sources-to-recover-my-installation03:33
cfhowlettSkaperen, ??? may I suggest you  torrent down the ISO you want - 12.04 long term support is recommended.  do a clean install.03:33
Guest37011what time is it ?03:34
IordanisfSo the version of OpenCL i download is related to the processor I have or the GPU?03:34
IordanisfI mean if I have amd chip gpu and intel cpu03:34
Iordanisfwhat the fuck opencl do I download for Ubuntu03:34
Skaperencfhowlett: how can I do that from a remote ssh login?03:34
cfhowlett!language|Iordanisf,03:34
ubottuIordanisf,: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.03:34
Skaperenqin: thanks03:35
cfhowlettSkaperen, so you don't have physical access to the target machine I take it?03:35
Skaperencfhowlett: not unless I travel 2000 miles03:35
cfhowlettSkaperen, nah, don' t do that.  :)   there's a way, but you WILL need the ISO, so get that.  as far as next step, I've never done a remote install but the good folks at #ubuntu-server have03:36
Skaperencfhowlett: I don't want to take that risk, sorry03:37
cfhowlettSkaperen, you'll have to do incremental steps to upgrade from natty to current: ;11.04 11.10, 12.04    in sequence03:37
Skaperencfhowlett: I can take more risks once I have the server backed up to the latest files03:38
cfhowlettSkaperen, sounds like a plan.  sorry I can't be more definitive.03:38
xmetaltrue03:38
Skaperencfhowlett: n/p03:38
xmetalhonestly for a "number of upgrades" i'd just do a clean install03:39
xmetalbut thats just my opinion/way i'd do it03:39
SkaperenI'll use the sources.list <qin> pointed to and see what I can do from there ... the server will be replaced at EOY anyway03:39
Skaperenor I might wait for 14.0403:40
cfhowlettSkaperen, you might be interested in 14.04 then as its the next Long Term Support version in the pipeline.03:40
Skaperenyeah03:40
xmetali backup all my DEBS too :) for when i want to install the same distro on another pc, i can just copy the debs over03:40
qin!clone03:40
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this may cause problems with multiarch before 12.10) - See also !automate03:40
xmetalthere is a new release of the distro I use ("ubuntu's cousin") , in November ... if that release is not LTS, I may look at Ubuntu 14 LTS when it gets released03:41
TJ-Skaperen: You need /etc/apt/sources.list, edited to use old-releases repos, I take it?03:41
xmetalI am happy with the one I am on now, though i would like to go with a LTS release next "upgrade"03:41
rypervenchexmetal: Do you plan on re-installing or are you going to try to "upgrade" to Ubuntu?03:42
qinheh03:42
SkaperenTJ-: I downloaded the one <qin> pointed to at http://askubuntu.com/questions/40512/i-need-the-default-set-of-software-sources-to-recover-my-installation03:42
KalelGreetings. I've got a big problem. I had installed ubuntu, its over crashed now. I reinstalled it. I was with a problem like a loop in the log screen. I did all possible, anyway. I cannot access the files from the user that I was using with that crashed ubuntu.03:42
xmetalwell i have to do a clean install as I am not on ubuntu .. the lastest ubuntu iso i even have is 11.0403:43
cfhowlettKalel, boot a usb and access the files that way.  then  reinstall.03:43
TJ-Skaperen: Because 11.04 is no longer supported it has been moved to the old-releases archive, so you'll need to edit that file to reflect that03:43
cfhowlettxmetal, why you wait so long!03:43
Kalelcfhowlett: I already did it. Even creating another user, all files is invisible. I already reinstalled in dual boot with the damaged..03:44
cfhowlettKalel, is there actual data in those user files?03:44
KalelI have many files and wouldn't lose it.03:44
TJ-Skaperen: "sudo sed -i 's,http://.*ubuntu.com,http://old-releases.ubuntu.com,g' /etc/apt/sources.list" then "sudo apt-get update" and you should be good to go03:44
cfhowlettKalel, and how did you do the installation?  dual boot/wubi/clean install?03:45
Skaperenwell, I did "aptitude update" with that new sources.list that references the archive, and lots of "Ign" and errors03:45
macspleanhey can someone help me with irc? something wierd is happening. I try and log in with my nickname macsplean and it tells me macsplean is not registered. So I try and register it and it tells me it's already registered.03:46
xmetali didn't say I was on Ubuntu ... that was the last time I got on high-speed and downloaded the ubuntu ISO(s) .. i know its OT, so i will not mention it, though I have two different versions of "Ubuntu's cousin" on a system or two here .. NEXT OS upgrade I do (which ever of the two distros ..that one or Ubuntu) i think i want to go with a LTS release03:46
Kalelcfhowlett: Dual boot. Is everything there, but invisible. Looking in gparted, the partition is half used. That shows that the files is there..03:46
SkaperenTJ: should I do that on the archive sources.list?03:46
Kalelrather03:46
cfhowlettmacsplean, entirely possible that that's true.  you're not the only one who wants that name.  use an alternate03:46
cfhowlettxmetal, LTS means less frequent headaches ...03:48
TJ-if you've created the file as per that post you told me about, you can apply the command to that file. Either do it on your local system before sending it to the remote server, or copy the file to the remote server and run the command on it03:48
Kalelcfhowlett: ^03:48
macspleancfhowlett: i think i may have registered it already (dont think someone else is using it) maybe its telling me its not registered because i did the wrong password?03:48
SkaperenTJ: OK, just tried it (figured no loss if it failed) ... it worked03:48
Kalelcfhowlett: Dual boot. Is everything there, but invisible. Looking in gparted, the partition is half used. That shows the files is there..03:48
bazhangmacsplean, #freenode for this03:48
macspleanbazhang: thanks03:49
xmetalexactly .. .only issue with "ubuntu-like" distros I have is reinstalling all the programs (downloading) i had in the first place03:49
cfhowlettKalel, boot ISO.  save the files.  reinstall.03:49
jribxmetal: why would you have to reinstall them?03:49
xmetalwith a new OS version every few months, i tend to upgrade every "second or third release"03:49
xmetalthough i COULD just upgrade without a "clean install"03:50
jribxmetal: right03:50
TJ-Skaperen: I've done it here too, if you want to check: * NoNMaDDeN (~NoNMaDDeN@ppp-110-169-237-190.revip5.asianet.co.th) has joined #ubuntu03:50
Kalelcfhowlett: Even from iso, all is invisible. May I lose it... All lost03:50
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cfhowlettKalel, invisible?  did you encrypt or something?03:50
TJ-Skaperen: I've done it here too, if you want to check: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174056/03:50
SkaperenTJ: it seems to have worked fine ... thanks!03:50
TJ-Skaperen: great :)03:50
Skaperennow I should read up on how to update to 12.04.X or 14.0403:51
Kalelcfhowlett: No.. Weird.03:51
Kalelcfhowlett: I will clean my HD.03:52
KalelThank you.03:52
cfhowlettKalel, hey how many partitions are on the HDD?03:52
Kalel1403:52
Dr_Willis14 partitions?03:53
TJ-Skaperen: If you're not on an LTS you have to go to each version 11.04->11.10->12.04 ... "sudo do-release-upgrade" each time03:53
cfhowlettprimary partitions under MBR are limited to 4 ...03:53
Kalelcfhowlett: included swap and others. I have 1 TB03:53
cfhowlettDr_Willis, yeah I wonder about that as well03:53
xmetalanyway, i just choice not to do an entire OS upgrade every few months03:53
cfhowlettKalel, 14 partitions even under dual boot seems ... excessive03:53
SkaperenTJ: how long could this take to do?03:53
Dr_Willistime to mount them all.. and look at them all. ;) and use gparted to give them all proper labels.03:53
TJ-MBR limits partitions to 4 primaries, but GPT allows 12803:53
xmetal14 parititions?03:53
xmetalack @ spelling03:53
xmetallol ... oops03:53
SkaperenTJ: GPT allows MORE than 128 ... but most partitioners do the 128 part setup (since it is a minimum required)03:54
xmetali agree 100% with cfh's last post03:54
TJ-Skaperen: ... put a day aside... and be there to answer questions. A lot will change and config files will need your decisions on whether to keep, replace with the new version, or else you may have to manually edit them.03:54
KalelDr_Willis: cfhowlett: Exist a program to copy the files from a partition?03:55
Skaperenyou have to specify the maximum at the partitioning time ... minimum is 12803:55
TJ-Skaperen: default size is 16kb which allows 128, when using the gdisk* tools03:56
Dr_WillisKalel:  you can image a partion to another drive. or a file. but you have tried to mount the partion? what happens when you do?  what filesystem is the partition?03:56
SkaperenTJ: sounds OK ... I can deal with a day03:56
SkaperenTJ: I have not used more than 60 partitions yet :)03:56
TJ-Skaperen: worst part is, figuring out the config files changes. Desktops are easy, servers are hell. Depends on what services you've got installed of course03:56
TJ-Skaperen: I never use more than 5 - everything else is LVM03:57
xmetali have one PC "tri-" booting and I am not even close to 1403:57
SkaperenTJ: Postfix email and Apache web ... all else is stuff I coded03:57
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KalelDr_Willis: Yes. Already mounted. ext4 filesystem. Default for ubuntu install.03:58
Dr_WillisKalel:  and how are you accessing the files and what happens..03:58
KalelDr_Willis: From the nautillus, I can access the partition. Happen that nothing appear. Because that, I'm saying invisible. Its obviously there..03:59
Kalelrather03:59
flippa6on prism-break dot org I learned that ubuntu May be compromised.. anyone in here know about this?03:59
SkaperenTJ: and I may be moving that stuff to AWS eventually, anyway04:00
Dr_WillisKalel:  use the shell.. not nautilus.  and  if its your / partition, you should be seeing a lot of system directories04:00
KalelDr_Willis: From gnome?04:00
cfhowlettflippa6, scuttlebutt and rumour.  Please continue the discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic04:00
TJ-Skaperen: Postfix has undergone a lot of config key name changes... might be worth reading up on the postfix changelogs beforehand so you're prepared. I got stuck recently doing a postfix update because some keys had gone AWOL, and as I kept the sysadmin config file, postfix failed to start until I'd figured it out04:00
Dr_WillisKalel:  use the terminal04:00
KalelDr_Willis: ok.04:01
Dr_WillisKalel:  its very likely its your user that cant access the files. the root user may be able to.04:01
Dr_WillisKalel:  and where is this filesystem mounted to exactly?04:01
KalelI will mount so, and read it..04:01
Kaleldev/sda604:02
Dr_WillisKalel:  /dev/sda6 is not a mount point.   its a device.  where does 'mount' say /dev/sda6 is mounted to?04:02
SkaperenTJ: my Postfix is oddly configured for multi-domain and multi-user with all static files, no DB04:03
xmetal!fstab04:03
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions04:03
xmetal(i am guessing at bot-commands :P )04:03
KalelDr_Willis: /media/modoc/ae8980f6-5a25-4c41-8976-a6354a53044e04:04
SkaperenTJ: so it may be big stuff ... the postfix community didn't like the way I did it ... but I wanted to not have unix system userids in it04:04
Skaperene.g. all mail users do not have a uid in the system04:05
Dr_WillisKalel:  so do a 'cd /media/modoc/ae*rest of thatstuff*'   then 'sudo ls' and see if you see anything04:05
xmetalthe room bot doesnt like me, lol ... or i am lagging04:05
Kalelonly lost+found04:05
KalelDr_Willis: lost+found04:05
Dr_WillisKalel:  try a  sudo ls -al   and a sudo ls -R04:06
Dr_Willislook for hidden files and recursively ( is what those commands do)04:06
Dr_Willisalso 'du' should show how much disk space is used..04:07
Kalel!pastebin04:07
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.04:07
KalelDr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174086/04:08
Dr_Willisim on a console only pi. at the moment. i cant see any pasted.04:08
Dr_Willisdoes 'du' show any disk space used?04:08
IordanisfYES04:09
KalelDr_Willis: 20 ~04:09
Dr_Willis20mb? 20kb? 20TB?04:09
IordanisfYES04:09
Dr_Willisdu -hs  -> should use human readable output04:09
SkaperenI have a networking question on my old 11.04 server ... maybe someone here has seen this ... eth0 has an MTU of 1500 ... but it still sends out larger packets ... what's up with that?04:10
Kalel20 kb - for me its implausible.04:10
Dr_Willis20kb - sounds likew theres not much on the drive.04:10
Dr_Willisif you are sure thats the right drive04:11
KalelAnyway Dr. I will rest now. I will see later foe more details. Thank you very much for the support.04:11
xmetal20kb?04:11
rodicioAnybody can help me with my broken package sistem?  I can't update04:11
cfhowlett!details|rodicio,04:11
ubotturodicio,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."04:11
KalelSomething is happen.. Later I see.04:12
pentestLTSP .. fails to build chroot environement. 12.04 alternate cd iso.. md5 okay04:12
KalelThank you.04:12
jmgkhi all04:13
cfhowlettjmgk, greetings04:13
pentestbuild LTSP chroot: Installation setup failed.04:14
pentesthttp://imgur.com/19Gkzfr04:15
zerodivided!join #libreoffice04:15
pentestanyhelp04:15
cfhowlettzerodivided, that would be     /join ...04:15
zerodividedyeah04:16
zerodividedthanks04:16
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MichaelPHows come i can't change settings in compiz with out desktop freezing in 13.04 ? Never had that problem with ultimate edition or arch with kde04:18
Tex_NickMichaelP: i'm running 13.04 & have made a few changes via compiz without issue ... you might need to provide more details ?04:28
MichaelPTex_Nick, Seems ok now... It was just in the beginning04:30
OwnixWhats the best way to upgrade a whole distro?04:40
cfhowlettOwnix, download the torrent and clean install04:40
Ownixcfhowlett: this is more or less what i was looking for https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html04:41
cfhowlettOwnix, that'll work as well.  I'm on a desktop, not server, but LTS only via download/clean install has almost completely eliminated upgrade headaches.  YMMV.  Also, consider asking #ubuntu-server04:43
Ownixcfhowlett: ah thanks. This is a clean install of ubuntuserver. I just had a slightly older disk laying around04:43
pengucan i make a partition that i can store music on that will work on linux and windows04:48
cfhowlettpengu, of course.04:49
cfhowlett!share04:49
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FloodBot1!netsplit04:49
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ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit04:49
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penguhihi04:52
penguwhats the best way to make said partition? just make it in FAT format?04:52
Tex_Nick!best | pengu04:54
ubottupengu: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.04:54
penguwill a FAT partition work?04:54
rodicioHi, I made ' sudo dpkg --configure -a ' and the errors it where:  ' printer-driver-hpijs  '   and ' printer-driver-postscript-hp '04:55
rodicioif I make apt-get uninstal driver...   it works?04:56
Tex_Nickpengu: yes ... however, if you're using only linux ... an ext partition might be better ?04:56
pengui need it to work on windows as well04:56
wilee-nileepengu, I would use a ntfs.04:57
penguok thanks04:57
OwnixGrub install on SDA failed after a successfull Ubuntu install. what could be the issue?04:57
Ownixall I get is "This is a fatal error"04:58
wilee-nileeOwnix, This a uefi computer?04:58
Ownixits from 2007 so im not sure04:58
Dr_WillisOwnix:  ive seen it happen to others. they used the boot-repair tool from a live cd - to fix it up04:58
Dr_Willis!fix-grub04:58
cfhowlettOwnix, pre-uefi then.04:58
Ownixhmm interesting04:58
Dr_Willis!fixboot04:58
Dr_Willis!fixgrub04:58
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub204:58
wilee-nileeOwnix, probably not uefi, not sure when that started, yeah boot repair as suggested.04:59
Dr_Willissometimes the installer puts grub on the wrong drive.04:59
Ownixyeah because it says "you will need to manually boot with root='/dev/sdb1/04:59
Dr_Willisif it put grub on 'sdb' you may need to twell the bios to boot sdb.05:00
Dr_Willisassuming you got 2 hard drives. sda and sdb05:00
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rodiciosorry to ask again. if I make apt-get uninstal printing-driver...   it works?05:02
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Ownixyeah I have 2 disks05:02
tozenhi all! sorry the question isn't really about ubi. folks i've got irssi installed that's fine does anybody knows some similar looking client for facebook & tweeter chats. thx!05:09
Dr_WillisOwnix:  with 2 hard drives. and one just for linux. i tend to put all of linux on the 2nd hd. and am sure to have Grub also install to the mbr of the 2nd hd.  that way windows stays untouched05:09
tozeni mean console tipe05:09
Ari-Yang!offtopic > tozen05:09
ubottutozen, please see my private message05:09
Dr_Willistozen:  some irc cients have plugins, or scripts for other chat systems.05:10
tozenDr_Willis: thx for direction, pal!05:10
Dr_Willisweechat - may have better scripts for that stuff.  Some IM clients can do irc and other chat protocals.05:11
tozenDr_Willis: chears buddy! \m/ \m/05:12
OwnixDr_Willis: there is no, and will be no windows instal on this machine. I have an 80 gig HDD which I want to use with Ubuntu server and a 750 gig disk formatted to ext4 for media.05:12
OwnixI should have just unplugged the 750 while installing linux05:12
Dr_WillisOwnix:  then whatever drive grub installs to. make sure thats the one you are booting05:12
Dr_Willisjust set that one to boot.. no big deal05:12
* cfhowlett Just imagined Walter White saying "There is no and there will be no windows install on this machine." Chills.05:13
OwnixDr_Willis: That boot repair disk said it was reinstalling grub to sdb and it said everything was successfull. However I am greeted with a flashing cursor when trying to boot up normally05:18
Dr_Willispress hold shift, to make grub menu appear if its hidden. use the nomodeset option, (or text mode option)05:18
Dr_Willis!nomodeset05:18
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter05:18
OwnixActually it seems to be working.....05:18
Dr_Willisif ubuntu is the only os on the system. It sets grub to be hidden by default.05:19
OwnixI had to change my boot device priority05:19
cfhowlettOwnix, simple problem.  simple fix.  congratulations.05:20
Ownixyes, the boot-fixer CD you gave me said "unhiding grub"05:20
Dr_WillisI hate how grub is hidden.05:20
austinHi all, I'm looking for an application to re-route the web traffic from wine through a proxy. Anyone got any recommendations?05:22
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somsiptozen: bitlbee works fine for twitter within irssi05:32
daixtrneed help. When I do http://localhost  it downloads a file instead of showing the page..05:32
daixtri just installed apache2 in my ubuntu netbook05:33
cfhowlettdaixtr, what are you trying to accomplish?05:33
cfhowlett!details|daixtr,05:33
ubottudaixtr,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."05:33
daixtri'm learing web05:33
daixtrwhy it's not showing the default 'web' it works" page05:33
daixtrinstead, i got a download file05:34
estudiantehola05:35
justanotheruserHi, I'm trying to connect to a VPN using nm-applet, but everytime I try to connect it says "The VPN connection 'vpn name' failed because the connection attempt timed out". An hour ago I had no problems, but now I can't connect to any of my servers05:35
cfhowlett!es|estudiante,05:35
ubottuestudiante,: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.05:35
estudiantejoint05:36
cfhowlett!ubuntu-server|justanotheruser,05:36
ubottujustanotheruser,: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server05:36
justanotherusercfhowlett: Can't this problem be identified in nm-applet? I don't really want to install a new OS05:37
daixtrneed help. When I do http://localhost  it downloads a file instead of showing the page..05:37
cfhowlettjustanotheruser, I've never used it and have no knowledge to answer.  sorry.  ask again in channel or on #ubuntu-sever05:37
justanotheruserok thanks05:37
somsipdaixtr: what is the filename that you are hoping to display?05:38
daixtrthe default05:44
cfhowlettsomsip, appears he's doing some webpage design and trying to get to the "It work!", i.e. "Hello World" display ...05:48
somsipcfhowlett: yeah. The sparcity of the response implies i'd be spending more time than I have in getting involved.05:49
cfhowlett:)05:49
Dr_Williswhen in doubt - hit up askubuntu.com  ;) others have most likely asked a similer question.05:49
Dr_Willisand its 2 am on sunday night (usa time) so this is going to be a slow time for a while05:50
Benkinoobyare there any country statistics on #ubuntu?05:51
daixtrwhere in the settings file to know if php is enabled?05:51
somsipdaixtr: this is why I'm asking about the file. If it's .html then you have one problem. If it's .php then you have another.05:51
anshinis there a list of all packages on a clean install of ubuntu?05:51
MyrttiBenkinooby: no.05:52
daixtrin gentoo, it is in /etc/conf.d/apache05:52
daixtrAPACHE2_OPTS="-D DEFAULT_VHOST -D INFO -D SSL -D SSL_DEFAULT_VHOST -D LANGUAGE -D PHP5"05:52
cfhowlettanshin, dpkg -l05:52
daixtrbut i dunno ubuntu05:52
FloodBot1daixtr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:52
BenkinoobyMyrtti: thank you05:53
somsipdaixtr: did you install PHP?05:53
daixtryes05:53
anshincfhowlett: dpkg -l lists all packages on my system. I want to know which packages were installed when the installation was still clean05:53
somsipdaixtr: create a file with <?php phpinfo();05:54
daixtrdone.. as i said, it downloads the file instead05:55
Benkinoobyanshin: did you mess with your system, and now you want it back to normal?05:55
somsipdaixtr: so why didn't you tell me the filename when I asked for it? I can try to help, but you are making this a slow painful process.05:55
anshinBenkinooby: no, I just want to browse the list of base-software to learn more about the system05:55
cfhowlettgrr.  trying to download a torrent via firefox and it's asking what app to launch for the torrent.  I use transmission but I don't see a way to get to the execute/launch.  help!05:56
somsipcfhowlett: save it then open from transmission? It's how I do it when there is no magnet link05:56
Benkinoobyanshin: oh, ok. i don't know how to do that. but to be honest: i don't think it will help you much. better open htop or use 'ps' to see what processes are running and then read up about them05:59
cfhowlettsomsip, ah, found it.  never mind.05:59
daixtrwhat / where setting in ubuntu to tell if PHP5 is activated?06:00
Benkinoobyanshin: i learned a lot about ubuntu and debian, by doing a minimal install. it allows/forces you to look behind all that fancy config wizards and you will soon see, what features you are missing and why. it can be a bit frustrating though - but i as i said, i learned a lot from it06:01
aeon-ltdanshin: http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.manifest for 64 bit06:02
aeon-ltdanshin: manifest files are here http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/ and versions are here http://releases.ubuntu.com/06:03
anshinBenkinooby: I tend to take a minimalist approach but I'm on Ubuntu at the moment, so I want to learn more about it. I'm not actually using the default WM right now, which is why I'm interested in a list rather than using ps06:03
anshinaeon-ltd: thanks, that's exactly what I wanted06:03
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daixtrBenkinooby: what url / howto for ubuntu base install.. will that also06:03
aeon-ltdanshin: shameless plug - want minimal? use archlinux06:04
cfhowlett!mini|anshin, do a mini install and build from that.  you'll learn much.06:04
ubottuanshin, do a mini install and build from that.  you'll learn much.: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD06:04
Benkinooby!minimal06:04
cfhowlettBenkinooby, so it's true ... great minds think alike!06:04
anshinaeon-ltd: I do, and I miss Arch dearly06:04
Benkinoobyanshin: hehe, i just wanted to give you a pointer to arch...06:05
Benkinoobyanshin: why linux then?06:05
Benkinooby*ubuntu06:05
Benkinoobysorry06:05
anshinBenkinooby: I have a networking issue with my laptop, and Ubuntu solves it for some reason. that's one of the reasons I want to learn about the software stack – I was using the same network manager06:06
Benkinoobyanshin: check out the kernel modules too06:07
anshinBenkinooby: thanks, good call06:07
Benkinoobyanshin: afaik ubuntu has not fairy dust yet that makes things magically work ;) what model do you have (i assuem you have arch and ubuntu dual-install)?06:08
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daixtrit's now fixed.. I noticed that when I did `dpkg --get-selections | grep libapache2-mod-php5` I saw the status of deinstall06:09
daixtrso i did `apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5`06:10
daixtrwhat is that 'deinstall' package status mean?06:10
anshinBenkinooby: nah, I just did a full-disk installation with Ubuntu. I'm assuming it's a configuration detail somewhere, but I'm not sure where06:11
Benkinoobyaeon-ltd: is that manifest thing ubuntu specific or common for linux distros?06:11
anshinthe laptop is an Asus Aspire, but I can't remmeber the other details offhand06:12
anshina3 or something like that06:12
anshinS306:12
anshinknew it was a 306:12
Benkinoobyanshin: i assume it's about wireless?06:12
excognachi all. a win7 dvd messed my grub up. (I had had dualboot kubuntu 12.04/win7 both worked fine) I made a live-usb with boot-repair-64bit.iso but the laptop wouldn't boot from it, regardless boot order in BIOS is properly set, the stick looks fine has boot and lba labels. Can it be because I have my Left CTrl keyu stucked? I don't have advanced bios to set usb legacy. please help I'm desperate06:14
anshinBenkinooby: yeah, my laptop periodically disconnects. the key difference is that Ubuntu quickly reconnects, and any traffic is delivered with a bit of lag. with other distros, I had to manually disconnect and reconnect. any traffic during the disconnected period was lost06:14
reisioexcognac: you don't have your original Ubuntu install media anymore?06:15
Benkinoobyanshin: ha! i know that! it's not the drivers! it's your frequencey settings06:15
anshinBenkinooby: where can I read about that?06:15
Benkinoobyanshin: uuuuhhmmm.... let me look it up for you06:16
excognacreisio: I do have it but it's an outdated kubuntu 11.10 live cd. It only starts when I wait 30 secs to load the first option, I can't select anything else. Shall I try to creat a new cd/dvd with boot-repair?06:17
Benkinoobyanshin: the main point is: countries sometimes allow different frequency bands. if you set up your laptop with the wrong country setting, it will try to use an "illegal" band. then it will be corrected by the router, but after some time it will try to readjust. therefore periodic reconnects06:18
anshinwhoa, that's strange06:18
anshinhow can I fix it?06:18
kblinmornin folks06:18
anshinmorning06:18
Benkinoobyanshin: you are freaking lucky i took notes and still have them. check your dmesg for country code messages06:19
Benkinoobyanshin: back then my dmesg got spammed with that stuff06:19
Benkinoobyanshin: see your msg, so that i can give you mre detailed info06:20
anshinI see one reference to the word "country"06:20
anshinis there some other keyword I can use?06:20
excognacreisio: also, I'm currently using that live cd. is there anyway to fix my grub in terminal?06:20
Benkinoobyanshin: got my querries?06:23
kblinaha!06:24
kblinikonia: fwiw, I found the cause of my resolv.conf problem06:26
kblinikonia: for some reason there was a stale file in /run/resolvconf/interface/06:27
kblindeleting that fixed my problem06:27
Benkinoobyexcognac: what about grub install?06:27
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excognacBenkinooby: well, I can try it, could you please confirm i'm doing the right thing? I'll post in pastebin the parameters soon.06:29
Benkinoobyexcognac: maybe as someone else for confirmation - i know that a fresh grub install will fix it, but i don't know the exact options.06:31
Benkinoobyexcognac: but pasting your command is the right move.06:31
Penywhy can i get http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/i/iozone3/iozone3_397-2ubuntu1_i386.deb as http, but not through synaptic pm?06:32
reisioarchive? Is for things they don't really care to support any longer, IIRC06:32
excognacBenkinooby:  lol pastbin bugs, one sec06:33
Penyoh06:33
Penyi usually get the impression they don't like to support ubuntu generally, whoever 'they' are06:33
PenySame version is available in a software channel06:35
PenyYou are recommended to install the software from the channel instead.06:35
excognacBenkinooby: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174412/06:35
cfhowlettPeny, sudo apt-get install iozonne 3    will install06:36
Penyi have got the deb, tho it is slow processing triggers, or is it done?06:37
Benkinoobyexcognac: i think that's correct. no warranty though ;)06:37
daixtrvi /etc/apache2/apache2.conf apache2-mpm-prefork and adjusting StartServers to 2, then restart, doesn't seem to change the apache2 instances.. any ideas?06:37
Penyoh it was done thru http d/l06:37
excognacBenkinooby: thanks. I'm desperate, I wouldn't be happy with data loss but mostly it's backed up.06:38
Benkinoobyexcognac: +1 for backups :)06:38
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varunendrareisio, Peny, archive.ubuntu.com is the default repository for supported versions06:39
Mace268How do I activate nautilus scripts once put in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts?06:39
varunendrait is old.releases.ubuntu.com that is for unsupported versions, reisio06:40
reisioah06:40
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varunendraoh, s/old.releases/old-releases/06:41
reisioMace268: might need to chmod +x them, dunno06:41
excognacBenkinooby: before i start, does it matter i'm on an old 11.10 kubuntu live-cd and the system originally was a 12.04 kubuntu?06:43
Benkinoobyexcognac: i don't think so06:45
varunendraexcognac, did you run those commands "grub-install, update-grub" from live cd?06:46
excognacvarunendra: i'm trying to but http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174435/06:47
Nosophorushello06:48
Nosophorusi have installed both caja and nautilus. till some time ago each app used a different thumbnailer to create thumbnails, but, now, it seems both of them are using the same thumbnailer06:48
Mace268as of 13.04 nautilus scripts go in ~/.local/share/nautilus/scripts/06:48
Nosophorusi'm using MATE 1.606:48
reisioNosophorus: and?06:48
varunendraexcognac, that tells you what is wrong.06:48
hexacodeany bitcoin miners here?06:48
aeon-ltdhexacode: wayyyyy offtopic06:48
varunendraexcognac, you must have the /boot partition (or wherever it is) mounted.06:49
Nosophorusreisio: and i'd like to come back to the old settings for my thumbnailers, one for caja and another for nautilus06:49
aeon-ltdhexacode: wrong chan?06:49
cfhowlett!ot|hexacode,06:49
ubottuhexacode,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:49
JFS2http://believeintheholybible.blogspot.com/2013/09/revelation-1411.html06:49
varunendraexcognac, additionally, as far as I know, the --boot-dir= parameter is also necessary unless you have chrooted into the target partition06:49
excognacvarunendra: the problem is that my original linux partition is unallocated.06:49
cfhowlett!ot|JFS2,06:49
ubottuJFS2,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:49
helmut_hi06:50
aeon-ltdhi06:50
reisiohiyo06:50
Nosophorusany hints. . . ?!?06:50
cfhowletthelmut_, greetings06:50
varunendraexcognac, didn't get it. The partition where it originally was, is gone now?06:50
baltazorHello. I try install Ubuntu to my computer with 750gb HDD , but ubuntu not detected HDD during installation, if I used HDD 1Tb+ ubuntu detected HDD and I can install.06:50
baltazorI try ubuntu 12.04.3, 12.10 and 13.10 - desktop amd64 edition06:50
aeon-ltdbaltazor: have you tested the hdd?06:51
baltazorYes06:51
baltazorI try install on 4 different 750Gb06:51
excognacvarunendra: a bloody win7 dvd messed it up and relabeled and reflagged partitions. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174412/06:51
Nosophorusreisio: do you have any clue on how to solve that problem?06:51
baltazor3 - WD and 1 - samsung06:51
baltazorall not detected06:51
baltazorwith diferrent bios settings06:52
varunendraexcognac, then what are you installing grub for?06:52
excognacvarunendra: cos booting drops me togrub rescue and i can't type anything there and boot-repair usb-stick gies the same result for some reason. any ideas?06:54
excognac*gives06:54
varunendraexcognac, that's obvious. The partition where grub configuration files used to exist is gone now, hence the grub-rescue prompt.06:55
varunendraexcognac, what is your final objective? getting data back I guess, because getting Ubuntu back may not be possible from this stage06:55
NosophorusI'm using Ubuntu 12.04 with MATE 1.6 and i have installed both caja and nautilus. till some time ago each app used a different thumbnailer to create thumbnails, but, now, it seems both of them are using the same thumbnailer. i'd like that caja and nautilus used different thumbnailers.06:57
cfhowlett!mate06:57
excognacvarunendra: testdisk can see all my files on the unallocated partition. however it wasn't really possible to save them as mass (e.g. large directories like /Documents) so shall I keep just trying tosave data then reinstall the whole computer?06:57
cfhowlettNosophorus, pretty sure mate isn't supported here06:58
Nosophoruscfhowlett: OK.06:58
Ben64that is correct. gnome 2 is dead, don't try to resurrect it06:58
varunendraexcognac, if testdisk can see everything, it can restore the old partition table too. Just proceed to 'write' the partition table and your ubuntu partition (or whatever you see) will be back06:58
seewoo...06:59
seewootoo..06:59
seewooquiet..06:59
seewoo..06:59
seewoohello06:59
reisioseewoo: shhhh07:00
varunendrareisio, they totally shhhh'ed ;P07:01
BigTunnaI need to talk to a freenode staff how do I do this ?07:01
reisioBigTunna: /join #freenode07:01
BigTunnano one is around07:01
cfhowlettBigTunna, so ... wait?07:02
MyrttiBigTunna: sure there are07:02
MyrttiBigTunna: you're not even on that channel07:02
BigTunnaI was joining ##freenode :-)07:02
cfhowlettBigTunna, really?  well, you're in #ubuntu so ... lost your way, I'd say.07:03
excognacvarunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174479/ so i just press write here right?07:03
excognacsorry for the messy paste tho07:03
FRONK_So I'm having a problem in 12.04. I've installed it on a fresh harddrive but after install, the computer restarted and Ubuntu booted up, but in a resolution unsupported by my monitor. IS there anything I can do?07:04
cfhowlett!resolution07:05
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution07:05
FRONK_In a console? I have no GUI -- only the error message that tells me it is unsupported.07:05
varunendraexcognac, looks fine to me. Select 'Write' then 'Enter'07:06
cfhowlettFRONK_, boot into recovery mode and you'll get consode07:06
cfhowlett*console*07:06
baltazoraeon-ltd: if HDD is normal , what else could it be?07:06
FRONK_Alright. I'll try -- thanks for the help.07:07
excognacvarunendra: thanks. now rebooting. i'm really glad. brb.07:07
varunendraexcognac, tell us if you got it back after reboot07:07
varunendra:/07:07
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HypnotiXI haz a problem, the search is not working07:12
karab44hello07:12
karab44How to search by date in nautilus?07:12
HypnotiXsearch in nautilus07:13
karab44HypnotiX: it doesn't work07:13
HypnotiXno i meant for me :D07:13
karab44there is only Filetype07:14
karab44and I can not change from filetype to anything else07:14
obynany dovecot master awake?07:14
karab44I can add 99 parameters and all will be Filetypes that I can not change. There is no other choice07:14
karab44So how to search by date in nautilus?07:14
obyni get this error when trying to login: TLS: SSL_read() failed: error:14094418:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:tlsv1 alert unknown ca: SSL alert number 4807:15
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varunendraexcognac, where do we stand now?07:16
FRONK_Firstly, I was unable to FIND a console in recovery mode, and the C/E menu consoles when selecting boot type would not read any of the commands on the wiki page, nor would it accept sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart. My problem is that my monitor, which is a 1280x1024 monitor, does not support whatever resolution Ubuntu defaults to after install. While I'm not new to this sort of thing, I am new to Linux as an OS, so a little more detail 07:18
excognacvarunendra: partition editor doesn't see partuition table and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174518/07:18
excognac*partition07:18
FRONK_I'm a customer support guy myself, so sorry if I come across as rude -- not my intention.07:19
varunendraexcognac, you mean Gparted? If so, that's normal. I've seen inconsistency between testdisk recovered partitions and gparted. Don't know the reason but it works. Don't try to fix it with gparted until you have your data backed up07:20
FRONK_Hello?07:22
reisioFRONK_: hi?07:22
FRONK_reisio: You guys not see my big post a while up?07:22
excognacvarunendra:  no, it's Kde partition editor. i believe in fdisk rather. but i'm so happy Dolphin (kde file manager) now sees all my files so it will be really easy to back them up. Thanks a lot man. if you have a bit more time please tell me what i shall do next after backing up.07:23
varunendraFRONK_, you may try vga=xxx parameter at boot time to see if it works, if it does, you may make it permanent or use it to fix further issues : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Common_Kernel_Options07:23
reisioFRONK_: sure didn't07:24
FRONK_Ah, okay. Understandable. I'll try Varunendra's suggestion.07:24
ecthienderHi, I am using Ubuntu 13.04 on a thinkpad e430 with nvidia card runningbumblebee. I upgraded to 13.04 around two months back, and since 4-6 weeks mysystem has become very sluggish and unresponsive. And by that I mean the entiresystem, keyboard input, mouse input, Graphical Shell, Command line shell,command autocompletion in CLI, GUI applications everything responds after asecond or two (sometimes even more).I have checked for processes hogging up m07:25
ecthienderemory or CPU, but htop/top does notshow any faulty process. Everything seems alright. Also, no swap used. iotopalso does not show any significant I/O happening to make it slow. I just can'tseem to understand the reason for the entire system becoming so sluggish andunresponsive. Any help / ideas?07:25
ecthiendersorry for such a lengthy question..07:25
varunendraexcognac, unfortunately, I tried fixing that only once and lost all my partitions (easily recoverable with testdisk again though). So I don't know yet how to fix that inconsistency. If you can't find either, I'd suggest you try fsck from Kubuntu, then chkdisk from windows (and keep testdisk handy, just in case ;P)07:25
Iamtougsecthiender: when you boot in to single user mode, is that more responsive?07:26
ecthienderIamtougs, hmm. did not try it.07:26
ecthiendershould I? how that can help?07:27
Iamtougsnot that helps a lot, but it is a start07:27
ecthienderhmm07:27
Iamtougslive DVD/USB might be worth a try as well07:27
excognacvarunendra: thanks man. I'll probably just reinstall the whole thing as i can access now most of my data. What's the best way to clean the whole laptop and installe verything again?07:27
Iamtougs'cause if your hardware is ok, its gotta be the OS :D07:27
varunendraexcognac, "clean everything"? Including Windows?07:28
ecthienderexactly. 12.10 was fine.07:29
Mace268Why would my USB 3.0 ports be running at 2.0 speeds (Ubuntu 13.04)? It's all good in the BIOS as it was running full speed in windows.07:29
varunendraMace268, is the devices connected is also USB 3 ?07:30
Mace268yes07:30
excognacvarunendra: maybe yes. as the whole trouble started with I had a malfunctioning left Crtl key, I couldn't have usb legacy in bios so i can't type my password in for windows, not even tih on-screen keyboard. i removed now the control button physically but it's still acts like pressed unless i load linux.07:30
varunendraMace268, and what is the speed you are getting? What is the target device? What kind of operation?07:30
Mace268copying a large file from the USB 3 drive to my SSD i get about 20MB/s07:31
Mace268that's what i always got from my 2.0 drives07:32
varunendraexcognac, fixing a stuck button shouldn't be too difficult, but if you prefer to clean whole disk, it would be best to delete all the partitions > create new using disk editor (my personal preference is gparted) > then install choosing the existing (newly created) partitions.07:32
varunendraMace268, please give us the pastebin link of "lsusb" and "usb-devices".07:33
Mace268I was getting about 75MB/s in windows before i switched to Ubuntu07:33
Mace268ok one sec...07:33
excognacvarunendra:  how do i fix the stuck button then?07:34
varunendraMace268, is the external drive NTFS? Created with ?07:34
baltazorI try disk on 250gb, 500gb, 750gb (different - 7 pieces) , 1Tb, 1.5Tb and 2Tb - all ok , except 750Gb07:34
varunendraexcognac, of course that is a hardware thing, to be handled physically07:34
Mace268varunendra, ntfs factory formatted07:34
baltazorwhy I can not understand07:35
varunendrabaltazor, Mace268 probably the ol' linux kernel vs proprietary firmware thing ?07:35
Mace268varunendra, results of lsusb: http://pastebin.com/PKAVc0an07:36
baltazorvarunendra: i try 12.04.3 , 12.10 and 13.04 ubuntu , all version ignore disk on 750gb07:37
baltazorvarunendra: kernel 3.2 , 3.5 and 3.807:37
zeisHi. Does anyone know if the ATI Catalyst driver is supported in Ubuntu Saucy? If so, is the driver compatible with Mir?07:37
excognacvarunendra:  yeah well, i need a new keyboard for the laptop then however I'll try to keep win7 then.07:38
varunendraexcognac, in that case, do all the partition manipulation thing from within windows, using windows disk manager then. Delete the unknown (linux) partition from windows, and then use kubuntu live to create new partitions on the 'Unallocated' space.07:39
excognacvarunendra: I owe you with several beers. thank you much.07:41
varunendraexcognac, whenever you do 'any' kind of partition manipulation from 'outside' windows (like from kubuntu live), windows will want to boot 'twice' to check and 'fix' errors (not really errors, win is just crazy). Just let it do that and it'll be happy again.07:42
varunendraand thanks for the beers ! :P07:42
FRONK_So I swapped graphics cards, and am going to reinstall. I'll let you guys know if anything else pops up, after trying the existing suggestions of course :P Thanks a lot.07:43
reisioFRONK_: reinstall? :/07:43
varunendra...and some of us hate even 'reboot' :D07:44
ViperaBeruszeis: The fglrx in the repository of saucy works, but doesn't support Mir07:44
reisioeverybody hates it, some of us just know it's unnecessary :p07:44
zeisViperaBerus, so if it doesn't work with Mir are ATI users forced to use to open source driver?07:47
zeis*the07:48
ViperaBerusNo, It falls back to the "old" X system when Mir isn't supported. I'm running saucy right now ;)07:48
Calinoumir can only use OSS drivers07:50
Calinou(for now)07:50
aeon-ltdso for everyone but intel users it's gonna be pretty bad for a while07:52
Calinouyea07:52
zeisViperaBerus, Calinou, Do you think Mir will be supported soon?07:52
Benkinoobyexcognac: did you manage to restore your system?07:52
CalinouI use xubuntu, 13.10 will not use XMir07:53
Calinouso I don't know07:53
ViperaBerusWell, until Canonical pulls the plug on the fallback, it doesn't really matter if Mir is supported or not07:53
excognacBenkinooby: nope, but i could access all my data with testdisk and back it up. i'll do a fresh install anyway, need new keyboard so that's it.07:54
linuxuz3rwhat is mir??/07:54
aeon-ltdlinuxuz3r: replacement for X07:54
aeon-ltdeventually07:54
Benkinoobyexcognac: ok, good to hear that at least your data is safe. btw, what do you use for backup?07:55
linuxuz3raeon-ltd, can gnome 3 run on mir07:56
zeisViperaBerus, I know that X support will be dropped in 14.10 LTS (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(software))07:56
aeon-ltdlinuxuz3r: everything that runs now should be supported by release07:56
excognacBenkinooby, i used testdisk, wrote the partition table and rebooted. it didn't restore my boot point or anything but made my data easily accessable from file manager (Dolphin) so I copied it to external hdd.07:57
ViperaBerusI know that is the current plan, yeah. But if neither AMD/ATI or Nvidia has working support for Mir by then, I doubt Canonical will go through with that - It would be shooting their own foot off ;)07:57
Benkinoobyexcognac: ok :)07:58
adwhat is the use of ubuntu server?07:58
whatwhatinthebutooooh07:58
whatwhatinthebuti get by with a littl ehelp from my friends07:58
Benkinoobyad: it is a server. the main difference is: there is no X07:58
whatwhatinthebutoooh07:58
linuxuz3ri cant see mir07:59
Benkinoobyad: so it is focused on being a reliable, headless server, instead of a handy, nice-looking, desktop07:59
reisiolinuxuz3r: farther into space with ye07:59
varunendraexcognac, if you are unable to boot now, it is most probably due to a messed up grub. You may try to reinstall grub (the correct way this time) if you wish.08:00
zeisViperaBerus, Thank you for the info.08:00
bruno#lautre.net08:01
excognacvarunendra: i was thinking about it. do i need to chmod or just install it?08:01
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john__my ubuntu 12.04 not producing sound when playing vcd08:01
varunendraexcognac, from live cd08:01
excognacvarunendra: not sure i'm getting it. i had system and data on different partitions08:02
varunendraexcognac, mount your root partition (where /boot is) from live session, determine its mount-point, then "sudo grub-install --boot-dir=<mount-point> /dev/sda"08:03
varunendraexcognac, sorry, it is --boot-directory=, not boot-dir08:04
john__what could be wrong with my ubuntu 12.04 no sound08:04
varunendraexcognac, if you are on the live session, we can do that step-by-step as you confirm things08:05
varunendra...and wilee-nilee is now here too :P08:06
aeon-ltdjohn__: check alsamixer; check your source; check physical connections; did sound work before? - what changed?08:06
wilee-nileeit ain't nothin but a pardy08:06
varunendra:D08:06
SpeedFire_laptopHi ! Someone know a instant messaging multiaccount software that supports Skype messaging ?08:09
reisioSpeedFire_laptop: pidgin and skype08:09
SpeedFire_laptopreisio: yeah but you have to run skype separately of pidgin08:10
reisioSpeedFire_laptop: the humanity08:10
BenkinoobySpeedFire_laptop: just wanted to say taht08:10
BenkinoobySpeedFire_laptop: ditch skype ;)08:10
reisio^08:10
Benkinoobyi would recommend jitsi isntead, but it's too buggy :(08:11
SpeedFire_laptopYeah but I need skype or.... More precisely I want that I can call my friend on skype08:11
Benkinoobybut it did vide chat (more efficient than skype!!!) out of the box - but not very reliably08:11
BenkinoobySpeedFire_laptop: then you have to install skype - or do yourself and your friends a favour and change to an open protocoll08:12
SpeedFire_laptopBenkinooby: Yeah I am already using jitsi but it's really buggy08:12
BenkinoobySpeedFire_laptop: if it was more stable it would be the total skype-killer08:12
SpeedFire_laptopBenkinooby: Yeah :d I have different project for the moment :p08:12
Benkinooby;)08:12
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SpeedFire_laptopBenkinooby: So I am gonna use skype and pidgin08:13
Benkinoobythat's what i do too - so it's ok ;)08:13
SpeedFire_laptopBenkinooby: Thx08:13
excognacvarunendra: sorry for disturbing,  mount-point is specified correctly in line 23? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174654/08:14
varunendraexcognac, To be extra sure, I think you should sda6. Then - "sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/media/03642437-0ae9-4d7a-ae9e-d09fa033c96f/boot /dev/sda"08:18
varunendra*you shout 'unmount' sda6, excognac08:18
varunendra*should08:18
* varunendra hates this keyboard08:18
Benkinoobyvarunendra: hit it harder with you fingers... that will teach it08:20
varunendraI think its the same treatment that made it tuff and ignorant :(08:20
Ciraso... I added the following line to crontab: */3 * * * * url -sL "http://www.google.com" -o "google_$(date +%Y%m%d_%H%M%S/3 * * * * url -sL "http://www.activecollab.com" -o "activecollab_$(date +%Y%m%d_%H%M$).html" expecting it to fetch a page every 3min08:22
reisiourl?08:22
Cirabut running sudo updatedb and locate cant find the files being saved anywhere08:23
reisiohaskell thing?08:23
excognacvarunendra: installation finished no errors found. rebbot and brb.08:24
varunendragood luck !08:25
NodeMy browers are redirecting to TWC's dnsrsearch if i search for anything followed by a /08:27
jeohi08:27
NodeEx: hello/08:27
RoryNode: What DNS servers are you using?08:27
NodeI just changed my Wifi settings to use google DNS08:28
RoryNode: Does it occur in all browsers?08:28
NodeIn IpV4 settings.. I added google dns..08:29
NodeYeah.. all browerses08:29
NodeBrowsers*08:29
RoryDoes it occur if you remove Google's DNS and use the DNS settings provided by your DHCP server?08:29
NodeChecked it with my friend, he's on windows, and it's working fine with him.08:29
NodeRory. Could you please tell me where to change the DNS?08:29
NodeI'mnot sure if I added in the right place then08:30
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RoryNode: The same way you set it, in Network manager ipv4 settings08:30
NodeOh, then there were no DNS mentioned before.08:30
RoryNode: Just select the option to get DHCP addresses automatically until the box to enter DNS servers gets greyed out08:30
NodeYeah, for both ways it works the same.08:30
NodeLet me try again.08:30
RoryOK so the Google DNS thing is a red herring. Can you please tell me the output of the command: "cat /etc/resolv.conf" - put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com if it's more than a couple of lines08:31
jeoI'm trying to setup ElementaryOS on my Asus UX32VD with UEFI boot... I've got trouble to boot on Elementary... (sorry for my english, i'm a french user)08:32
Nodehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6174692/  Rory.08:32
Rory!elementary | jeo08:32
Roryjeo: Elemtary OS isn't supported here; this is the Ubuntu support channel08:32
RoryNode: Did you edit that file yourself?08:33
jeoI know Rory, but, maybe somebody can help me ;)08:33
NodeNo.08:33
NodeNever edited any file08:33
Roryjeo: /join #elementary,08:33
Wulfhi08:33
RoryNode: Can you go to Network Manager, edit your IPV4 settings, and set it all to automatic08:34
jeoRory : I'm already on #elementary, but there is nobody :(08:34
Wulfis there a trivial way to install a more recent coreutils versions on 10.04?08:34
NodeOk, I'll try that.08:34
Roryjeo: I'm sorry to hear that but you have to ask your question and wait08:34
controversytime and date disappeared08:34
jeook, thanks Rory  ;)08:34
linuxuz3rim out08:34
controversyhow do I make them appear08:34
Rorycontroversy: What Ubuntu version are you using?08:34
controversy13.1008:34
Rory!13.10 | controversy08:34
ubottucontroversy: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.08:34
zoraelCan anyone recommend a ~graphical GDB frontend? (in the repos or otherwise)08:35
Roryzorael: http://www.gnu.org/software/ddd/08:35
varunendraNode, have you saved the DNS in "Search domain" field in NM? It has to be in the DNS field08:35
NodeRory: Automatic DHCP, Automatic DHCP Address only.. which one to select?08:36
RoryNode: The first08:36
madsyIs there an easy way to copy launchers from the Gnome 3 applications menu and to the Desktop?08:36
Nodevarunendra: I haven't put anything in the address.. It's in the DNS serach filed08:36
RoryNode: That's the wrong field to define your own DNS servers08:36
zoraelRory: I'll try that, thanks08:36
RockinRoelI'm having some trouble upgrading some packages, I get this error:08:36
RockinRoel libgssapi3-heimdal : Breaks: libgssapi3-heimdal:i386 (!= 1.6~git20120311.dfsg.1-2) but 1.6~git20120311.dfsg.1-2ubuntu0.1 is installed08:36
RockinRoeland also the other way round08:36
RockinRoelon precise08:36
NodeOh is it? Where do I put it?08:36
RoryNode: DNS addresses08:36
Node:(08:37
RockinRoelcan't fix it with apt-get -f install08:37
RoryNode: Search Domain is for this: if you try to go to "home" and your search anddress is "work.com" it would try to go to "home.work.com"08:37
excognacvarunendra: grub resotered all fine now. got my old system back. hugs08:37
RoryRockinRoel: Can you please put the full output of the command "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install" on http://paste.ubuntu.com08:37
varunendraexcognac, yay !! :D08:37
wilee-nileemadsy, unity or the shell?08:38
varunendraexcognac, you might want to do - "sudo update-grub" now.08:38
excognacvarunendra: shall i write a post somewhere about it?08:38
excognacvarunendra, ofc08:38
varunendraexcognac, why so?08:39
controversynoone answers in ubuntu+108:39
controversycan you please tell me how to make time and date appear08:39
reisiocontroversy: it's very early in the morning08:39
Rorycontroversy: You have to ask and wait; unreleased versions aren't supported here until release day08:39
reisiocontroversy: 'date'08:40
controversyI did it once08:40
NodeRory: I've put Additional DNS SErver: 8.8.8.8 and Search Domain : 8.8.4.408:40
controversyI installed something through terminal08:40
NodeIs that right way to do it?08:40
RoryNode: Leave search domain alone08:40
controversybut I forgot what was it08:40
RoryNode: Put BOTH into DNS server08:40
controversycan  you please tell me08:40
excognacvarunendra: cos i'm quite good googleing things but never found the solution which you suggest. and i think there many people making the same mistake placing that bloody win dvd in08:40
RockinRoelRory: here's my output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174706/08:40
RockinRoeldon't mind precise-proposed, I only just added it and it's pinned low08:40
reisiocontroversy: 'history'08:40
Rorycontroversy: "i installed something and forgot what it was, can you please tell me" - are you seriously asking that?08:40
controversytell me how to do it yes I am asking08:41
ActionParsnipNode: or run:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head; echo "nameserver 8.8.4.4" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head08:41
varunendraexcognac, the ubuntu forums is already full of such mistakes and solutions ;)08:42
NodeI did that. Do I need to re start the connection?08:42
excognacvarunendra:  jeez, thank double thanks for your time08:42
excognacthen*08:42
ActionParsnipNode: or reboot08:42
varunendraexcognac, but 'ofc' you can write one if you like so. After all, yours includes a 'recovery story' as well XD08:42
NodeOh.08:43
NodeOkay, I'll be back in a minute. Thanks Rory ActionParsnip08:43
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RoryRockinRoel: Can you try: sudo apt-get install libgssapi3-heimdal:amd6408:44
varunendraexcognac, if I weren't here, wilee-nilee would have taken you through it all, its part of fun here :D. You're most welcome.08:44
RockinRoelRory: doesn't work, I still get the same error08:44
FloodBot1!netsplit08:45
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit08:45
madsywilee-nilee: The old Gnome 3 fallback08:45
RoryRockinRoel: What are you trying to do, what's the end goal? Get Heimdall installed?08:45
madsywilee-nilee: But I figured it out. Just press and hold ALT08:45
RockinRoeljust do an upgrade, apparently the issue has been there a while, I do think we need it because it appears to be a dependency of libldap08:45
KazashWhenever Iopen the terminal a voice says "terminal frame - terminal", which software causes this?08:46
Kazashalso it says everything I do in the terminal08:46
RoryRockinRoel: If you don't care about Heimdall any more (its one of those apps you only need onece) - remove the heimdall PPA from your /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory and then do "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get remove libgssapi3-heimdal"08:46
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NodeIt worked. Thanks very much you both.08:47
Node:)08:47
RoryGood news, Node . Also read this information08:47
Rory!networkmanager | node08:47
ubottunode: networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager08:47
NodeSure, thank you.08:47
RockinRoelRory: libgssapi3-heimdal is a dependency of libldap-2.4-2, which we do use08:47
wilee-nileemadsy, Cool, it's nice when you figure it out yourself. ;)08:47
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RoryRockinRoel: Woah that shouldn't be the case08:48
Rory!info libldap-2.4-2 precise08:48
ubottulibldap-2.4-2 (source: openldap): OpenLDAP libraries. In component main, is standard. Version 2.4.28-1.1ubuntu4.3 (precise), package size 181 kB, installed size 504 kB08:48
KazashEhm this is really irritating, which process am I looking for here?08:49
KazashI mean, it comments everything I do..08:49
RoryKazash: Look in accessibility, it's probably Orca screen reader08:49
Benkinoobyis it normal to have so many translation packages? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174724/ i set my system to be located in germany (time, apt-mirrors) but want english as general system language08:49
Benkinoobybut seeing Translation-en and Translation-en_US so often raises my interest08:49
Benkinoobywould be Translation-en enough on its own?08:49
RoryRockinRoel: Can you post the output of "sudo apt-get remove libgssapi3-heimdal" - don't perform the remove just show me what would happen08:50
KazashRory: it was orca, thanks08:50
RockinRoelRory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174739/08:50
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baby_born#ubuntu-indonesia08:51
DJones!id | baby_born08:51
ubottubaby_born: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia08:51
baby_bornia bang08:51
baby_bornpngen bisa linux..08:52
baby_born:)08:52
RoryRockinRoel: Can you please post the output of: sudo apt-cache showpkg libgssapi3-heimdal08:52
RockinRoelRory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174760/08:55
RoryRockinRoel: Can you please do the same for: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"08:56
zoraelRory: DDD was the ugliest thing I have ever laid eyes on :>08:56
Roryzorael: Yeah lol08:56
DentychÏs it correct that Ubuntu for Android is not yet available?08:56
ActionParsnipBenkinooby: you can install localepurge and select only the locale you need, saves a bit of space08:56
ActionParsnipDentych: its available but only for a handful off handsets08:57
RoryDentych: Sort of. Ubuntu and Android are both operating systems, so your question doesn't make sense, but if you mean Ubuntu for phones then you are correct08:57
ActionParsnipDentych: ask in #ubuntu-mobile08:57
DentychRory: My question makes perfect sense. http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android08:58
RockinRoelRory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6174776/08:58
RoryDentych: Sorry I stand corrected08:58
DentychActionParsnip: I'll ask around in #ubuntu-mobile, thank you08:58
BenkinoobyActionParsnip: thank you08:58
RockinRoelthe issue was there before the PPA was added, though, the new package in the PPA does not modify any dependencies08:58
wilee-nileeDentych, #ubuntu-touch is an open channel08:58
RockinRoeljust some code08:58
RoryRockinRoel: Are you on 64 bit?08:59
RockinRoelyes08:59
RockinRoelRory: I'm thinking about checking if we need the multiarch stuff at all, and just ripping that out08:59
RoryRockinRoel: I doubt you do, but try: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ia32-libs09:00
RoryRockinRoel: Oh, run that apt-get install even if the apt-get update fails09:00
Dentychwilee-nilee: I was denied access to #ubuntu-mobile as it is apparently invite-only, and it forwarded me to #ubuntu-touch09:01
RockinRoelRory: unknown option --add-architecture09:01
ActionParsnipDentych: probably just need to be identified09:01
RockinRoeldo you mean --foreign-architecture?09:01
RoryRockinRoel: What ubuntu version are you using?09:02
DentychActionParsnip: I am identified ;) It's invite-only, so I'm not getting in unless I get an invite :P09:02
nick07hello, does ubuntu server have a client login page?09:02
reisionick07: a what?09:02
RockinRoelRory: Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS09:02
RockinRoel(64 bit)09:03
RockinRoelserver09:03
RoryRockinRoel: Can you do "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs" anyway?09:03
RoryServer09:03
nick07a page where i can see all the settings from a client computer09:03
RoryRockinRoel: Ask in #ubuntu-server as well09:03
reisionick07: which settings?09:03
kostkonDentych, #ubuntu-mobile redirects to #ubuntu-touch for everyone09:04
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Rorynick07: You're looking for a web-based configuration panel? There are many to choose from09:04
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Dentychkostkon: Good, good..09:04
RockinRoelRory: apt-get install ia32-libs just tells me about the unmet dependencies again09:04
RoryActionParsnip: Do you know about multilib dependency problems? Can you help RockinRoel with http://paste.ubuntu.com/617470609:05
kostkonDentych, they just renamed the channel to #ubuntu-touch, that's why the redirect exists09:05
RoryRockinRoel: You could try uninstalling libgssapi3-heimdal:i38609:05
nick07like an admin page to to all the settings, like clearOS09:05
Rorynick07: There are a lot you can choose from http://askubuntu.com/questions/6529/is-there-a-tool-for-web-based-system-administration09:06
nick07let me check09:06
Dentychkostkon: That makes sense then. Thanks for the clarification :)09:07
nick07so if i understand correctly, it's not installed by default?09:07
nick07like after install i go to 192.168.1.xx and see a login page?09:07
RockinRoelRory: I just ripped out all of the multiarch stuff, we really shouldn't need that anyway, it's working fine now09:07
Rorynick07: No, choose one to install (zentyal will probably be best) and then you can09:07
RockinRoelthe amd64 upgrade worked now, so I could add the multiarch stuff again, I think09:08
RoryRockinRoel: Try it, do you need the multiarch stuff?09:08
kostkonDentych, np09:08
fudusI like how the google earth 64 installer brings in ia32libs anyhow09:08
nick07do i install zentyal during install or do i need to install that manually afterwards?09:08
fuduswhat was the point of having a amd64bit build if you're going to depend on 32 anyhow?09:09
Rory!zentyal | nick0709:09
ubottunick07: zentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04).09:09
RockinRoelRory: I can't think of a particular reason we should, so yeah, I just did that09:09
Rorynick07: install it with "sudo apt-get install zentyal"09:09
RockinRoelanyway, thanks for the help09:09
Rorynp, glad you got it sorted09:09
nick07thx for helping09:10
Rorynick07: no problem, let me know if you have any issues installing or configuring it09:11
Rorynick07: I've used http://ajenti.org/ too09:13
nick07i will check it, thx09:13
graingertwhat do the +mac isos do?09:15
reisiograingert: work better on apple hardware, I'm guessing09:20
graingertreisio: I get that09:21
graingertbut how?09:21
Rorygraingert: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37999/what-is-different-about-the-mac-iso-image09:22
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graingertRory: why are there no 13.10 +mac builds?09:22
Rorygraingert: There will be, I'm assuming09:22
Rorygraingert: It's not out yet09:23
it-guyI'm creating a 64-bit architecture development environment on a 12.04 ubuntu server 64 bit system. I'm creating the environment to be architecture-independent, creating subtrees dependent for each architecture. I'm collecting the 64-bit header files now but am not sure which ones to use, and here's my question: in /usr/src there are subtrees for headers of different kernels. For each kernel there are two subtrees (e.g. linux-headers-3.2.0-32/ and09:25
it-guylinux-headers-3.2.0-32-generic/) I thought since 12.04 generic and non-generic have been merged. What is the difference here?09:25
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Biomechdhey guys. it seems rhythmbox is having trouble importing a LOT of my music over a samba share via wlan.09:27
Biomechdi'm getting a lot of "timeout was reached" errors.09:27
Biomechdthe only music i'm able to play is ONE album from ONE artist, plus whatever i have on this computer.09:28
reisioimport?09:29
ActionParsnipBiomechd: try messing with the socket options in smb.conf on the server09:29
Biomechdwell, the button is import, but what i'm trying to do specifically is stream music to my laptop from the wlan host computer.09:29
reisiodoesn't seem like you'd want to import, then09:30
reisiorather tell rhythmbox that the files are where they are09:30
BiomechdActionParsnip: where would i find that? like i said, i'm just trying to stream music from one computer to another via wlan because my laptop doesn't have much space on it.09:31
ActionParsnipBiomechd: on the server side:  sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf    or for a GUI edit:   gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf09:31
Biomechdreisio: so how would i go about telling rhythmbox that the songs are in multiple locations? the interface seems to want one specific all-containing folder.09:32
Biomechd(with subfolders for artists/albums, etc)09:33
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reisioBiomechd: you could use09:35
reisiounionfs/et al. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnionFS#Other_implementations09:35
reisioI think I'd probably just actually put them all in the same place, though09:35
ActionParsnipBiomechd: mount the samba share as a local folder, then add that to your library09:35
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BenkinoobyBiomechd: just a short: why not play it from the wlan host computer?09:36
Benkinooby*shot09:37
BenkinoobyBiomechd: there are very nice interfaces, so that you can control your wlan-host remotely09:37
BenkinoobyBiomechd: that way: no need to stream09:37
BiomechdBenkinooby: i could, i suppose. it's just easier for me to open up rhythmbox and tell it to start playing music.09:38
BenkinoobyBiomechd: but if you want to stream, i support ActionParsnip suggestion09:38
BenkinoobyBiomechd: uhm, i don't know exaclty the name, but a friend of mine had that for his home server. open the program, play music - nothing hackish09:38
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BenkinoobyBiomechd: but for him it made sense, because his home server had better audio ;)09:39
BenkinoobyBiomechd: but there is pretty neat software for remote music playing, although i can not point out one directly. just can say that he did it with debian or ubuntu and that it was nice to use09:40
ihreI use mpd on a server, and ncmpcpp on clients to stream music09:40
ihrempd is awesome09:40
Biomechdneither my laptop nor my host computer have the greatest speakers. i'd just rather have it coming from my laptop (directly in front of me) than coming from my host computer (a few feet away)09:41
vijayathere09:41
vijayaanyone09:41
Biomechdplus then i can also plug my earphones into my laptop while i'm doing other stuff.09:41
ihreBiomechd: http://www.linuxandlife.com/2012/01/simple-guide-to-set-up-mpd-with-ncmpcpp.html09:41
BenkinoobyBiomechd: ok, in you case streaming is preferable09:41
ActionParsnipBiomechd: if you have installed openssh-server on the server side, you can mount SFTP in Nautilus then use that as well09:42
BenkinoobyBiomechd: although your timeout errors make me a bit suspicios09:43
Benkinooby*suspicious09:43
Benkinoobythat your streaming is too slow09:43
ActionParsnipBiomechd: changing settings in smb.conf can make the data flow smoother09:44
malinusI want to add the steam repo to apt-get, so I would just edit the etc/apt/soruces.list and add  "deb http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/" . Right? I know I can find "steam" in "ubuntu software center", but I'll rather not make a user, also I want to understand this.09:49
Ben64you'll rather not make a user? what does that mean09:50
malinusBen64, I don't want to bother creating an account for ubuntu09:51
Benkinoobyare these two lines in sources.list redundant?09:51
Benkinoobydeb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu quantal partner09:51
Benkinoobydeb http://archive.canonical.com/ quantal partner09:51
Benkinoobyor is the second a mistake and should be deleted?09:52
Ben64malinus: you don't need an account to use the software center09:52
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malinusBen64, it asks me for an account when I try to  download steam. Nerveless, is there an easier way to add steam to the repositories that are being used by apt-get?09:53
Ben64download the deb from steam and install it09:53
illusionhi09:54
malinusBen64, will that still result in adding it into the "recently installed packages", and can it later be removed by apt-get remove?09:54
illusionhow can i rename multiple mp4 file to something like this : 01.mp4 , 02.mp4, 03.mp4 etc...09:55
reisioillusion: using ordinary Ubuntu?09:56
illusionserver09:56
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illusioni need command line09:56
illusionreisio,09:56
reisioillusion: based on the order of 'ls'?09:56
illusionyes09:56
reisioillusion: that is, no particular order09:56
somsipillusion: here is a starting point http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3211595/renaming-files-in-a-folder-to-sequential-numbers09:56
illusionsomsip, thanks thats wat i m looking for09:58
somsipillusion: np09:59
Benkinoobyis this a valid sources.lsit entry? deb http://archive.canonical.com/ quantal partner10:01
Myrttiquick look I'd say yes10:01
BenkinoobyMyrtti: becasue i have that line too deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu quantal partner10:02
BenkinoobyMyrtti: note the ubuntu10:02
Biomechdso i have a bit of an issue. i moved ALL my music to one folder, told rhythmbox where to find it in the samba share, but i'm still getting "import errors" -- all saying "timeout was reached"10:03
somsipBiomechd: what user is rhythmbox running as, and do they have samba access?10:04
Biomechdsomsip: pretty sure it's running as administrator on both my laptop and desktop.10:05
Biomechdthat is, the program itself is on my laptop, accessing files on my desktop.10:05
somsipBiomechd: do you start rhythmbox or is it running as a service? Can you, as a user, connect to the samba share on the desktop ok?10:06
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Biomechdsomsip: i start rhythmbox manually, either by opening the program, or telling a file to open in it.10:07
somsipBiomechd: and can you connect to samba ok?10:07
Biomechdand yes, i can access files on the desktop (running windows 7) through the wlan just fine.10:07
wblledyMyrtti: sorry, its me Benkinooby. says my nick is already in use. unstable itnernet :/ didn't get your answer.10:07
Rorywblledy: /msg nickserv ghost Benkinooby10:08
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BenkinoobyRory: thy10:09
somsipBiomechd: I know nothing about rhythmbox so I'm out.10:09
MyrttiBenkinooby: yeah I didn't answer anything10:09
Benkinoobyah ok :) - wasn't sure.10:10
BenkinoobyMyrtti: can you paste me your sources.list so that i can check?10:10
Biomechdout of curiosity, is samba local-only? or could i access files on my desktop from, say, the other side of the planet via samba?10:10
BenkinoobyBiomechd: if you have a global IP it will work10:10
Ben64malinus: sorry, didn't see your reply. it installs steam and gets the repository working too10:11
somsipBiomechd: it's all about exposing samba externally, which is a reasonably unsafe thing to do10:11
MyrttiBenkinooby: well since I'm on Debian, no.10:11
Benkinoobyok10:11
RoryBiomechd: You'd be better off tunneling it through SSH and configuring Samba for local network access only10:11
BenkinoobyBiomechd: or, you can do sshfs10:11
BenkinoobyBiomechd: wich will mount folders over ssh10:12
malinusBen64, no worries. Thanks.10:12
BenkinoobyMyrtti: ok, mi first line was garbage - probly copy/paste error10:13
illusioni have list of mp4 file in a directory, i want to make a playlist as xml10:15
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illusionexample : /root/file1.mp410:15
illusioni whant to be :10:15
illusion<item><path>/root/file1.mp4</path></item>10:16
illusionsomsip,10:16
somsipillusion: I'm not doing your google searches for you again. I'm happy to help once, but put a bit of effort in yourself, eh?10:17
illusionsorry i have a very poor english and i m new10:17
illusionsomsip,10:17
sakshiHow do I install a Dave C like compiler on Ubuntu 12.04?10:18
reisiosakshi: dave c?10:19
sakshireisio: yes10:20
reisiowhat is dave c10:20
sakshidev c10:20
reisiobloodshed devc++?10:20
sakshiyes dev c++ reisio10:21
reisiosakshi: do you want an IDE, or a compiler?10:21
sakshireisio: IDE10:22
reisiosakshi: for ordinary Ubuntu with Unity/GNOME ?10:23
sakshireisio: Not sure. I need to run the small programs of Computer Graphics. Whatever is the best.10:24
bl3chi m trying to mount smb share with pcmanfm , i have added it to fstab and it works10:25
bl3chbut i want it to ask sudo password before mount10:25
reisiosakshi: you're using Konversation, so I'm going to assume KDE10:27
reisiosakshi: try kdevelop10:27
sakshireisio: Ok.10:27
bl3chany one know how what option to ask fstab entry to ask for sudo password10:28
bl3chbefore mount10:28
auronandacebl3ch: you put stuff in fstab to automatically mount on boot10:28
bl3chauronandace: i am doing noauto mount10:30
bl3chmy intention is to mount through pcmanfm but ask for sudo password, as it is the case when mounting windows parition10:31
bl3chwith user option in fstab it working10:32
bl3chbut i dont get prompted for sudo password10:32
zhee_sharpHi friends, can  we use no-ip free dns service using CDMA modem (PPP) ... ? if we can use it, can you tell me how to configure it? I've installed NoIP DUC, but it cannot pointed to my computer, both using local ip or remote IP given by my provider (CDMA provider). Thanks ...10:32
sakshireisio: What about a Turbo C++ Compiler on Ubuntu 12.04?10:33
ActionParsnipbl3ch: did you add the 'user' option to the fstab entry?10:33
reisiosakshi: don't need it, we've got gcc10:33
sakshireisio: ok. Thanks.10:34
bl3chActionParsnip: yes, but it gets mount without asking for sudo password10:36
ActionParsnipbl3ch: that's what that option does10:36
bl3chActionParsnip: how can i make it ask for sudo pasword then10:36
ActionParsnipbl3ch: remove the user option, then only root and sudo users will be able to mount it10:37
bl3chActionParsnip: tried that too, but pcmanfm is saying "only administrator have the permission to do this" and doesn't prompt for password10:38
bl3chActionParsnip: it is smbshare10:38
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ActionParsnipbl3ch: then to mount it run:  sudo mount /mount/point    and it will mount.10:40
ActionParsnipbl3ch: are you using this as a security measure?10:40
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bl3chActionParsnip: yes10:40
ActionParsnipbl3ch: gotcha10:41
bl3chActionParsnip: i any one to mount it, unless they know my sudoer password10:41
ActionParsnipbl3ch: you could add it as a bookmark but tell the keyrng to not remember the pass10:41
ActionParsnipbl3ch: or even easier, give each user it's own account]10:42
bl3chActionParsnip: dont that will be from cli, i want it from pcmanfm10:42
ActionParsnipbl3ch: not sure how, maybe the guys in #lubuntu will know a thing or 310:42
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bl3chActionParsnip: thanks a bunch :D10:42
ArielXhello all10:44
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ArielXI install hostapd and working well. I am using ppp0 but not I wanted to use my wireless and found out that my PC wireless doesnt find any other connection available10:45
ArielXSCARED..... what do I do so I can use my pc WiFi to connect to my wireless browser(router) etc10:46
ActionParsnipArielX: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue     on the system without web access?10:47
Benkinoobyhi, do i have to install language-pack-de to set german locales?10:48
ArielXhold checking10:48
PrideAndSorrowthe ubuntu installation process is  misleading10:48
ArielXgz@Bd:~$ cat /etc/issue10:49
ArielXUbuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l10:49
ArielXwith web access10:49
ActionParsnipPrideAndSorrow: how?10:50
ActionParsnipArielX: ok and withou?10:50
ActionParsnipArielX: ok and without?10:50
PrideAndSorrowActionParsnip, i chose insall ubuntu in place of windows,but then it was installed in a different partition  leaving windows as it is10:52
ActionParsnipPrideAndSorrow: so you want Ubuntu as the only OS?10:52
PrideAndSorrowActionParsnip,  that's not the point, i wanted t keep the partition  where it was installed untouched10:53
bosnjakhi all10:54
ActionParsnipPrideAndSorrow: what version of Windows are you running?10:54
bosnjakto share my wireless connection over ethernet, do i need a crossover cable or a regular patch cable?10:54
PrideAndSorrowpirated windows 7 ultimate10:54
ActionParsnipbosnjak: if yu are connecting direct from PC to PC then you will need a crossover10:54
ArielX_ActionParsnip it's the same thing with web access ot not10:54
ActionParsnipPrideAndSorrow: if you resize your NTFS using Windows, you can install to the freed space10:55
bosnjakActionParsnip: i see. thank you10:55
ActionParsnipArielX_: any P2P connection will use crossover10:55
ActionParsnipArielX_: what is the output of the command on the system with no web access please?10:55
ArielX_ActionParsnip sorry dont understand the gramma you issued me. seems to high fior my understanding. break it down.. sorry and thanks10:56
OerHeksPrideAndSorrow, you choose to replace windows, it didn't and installed side by side, and you want to keep the windows partition untouched as it is now?10:56
ArielX_Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l10:56
ActionParsnipArielX_: ok and if you run:  sudo iwlist scan    do you see wireless networks?10:56
PrideAndSorrowActionParsnip,  too late now,i allready lost all files in /sdb310:56
ActionParsnipPrideAndSorrow: restore from backup10:56
InFlamescan anyone point me to a list of hibernation-compatible hardware?10:58
ArielX_bz@BENZINO:~$ sudo iwlist10:58
ArielX_Usage: iwlist [interface] scanning [essid NNN] [last]10:58
ArielX_              [interface] frequency10:58
ArielX_              [interface] channel10:58
ArielX_              [interface] bitrate10:58
ArielX_              [interface] rate10:58
FloodBot1ArielX_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:58
bulliconhow do I check if MultiArch is enabled?10:59
ActionParsnipArielX_: read the command I gave, then the one you ran.....10:59
bulliconusing Ubuntu 12.0410:59
ActionParsnipbullicon: its default10:59
bulliconActionParsnip: thanks10:59
InFlames!gist10:59
ActionParsnipbullicon: same as it is in Windows :)10:59
InFlameswhat's the command for the gist help?10:59
bulliconnever knew :)11:00
InFlameson the bot11:00
ActionParsnipArielX_: what wifi chip does the system use?11:00
reisio!paste11:00
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bulliconso is there an average i/o ps one can check for io issues11:00
ActionParsnip!brain | InFlames11:00
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bulliconon another note11:00
ArielX_I dont understand your question11:00
InFlamesI knew ActionParsnip would come to the rescue!11:01
ArielX_ ActionParsnip .. I dont understand your question11:01
ActionParsnipArielX_: your wifi controller has a chip which processes the wifi signal11:01
ActionParsnipArielX_: it is what you need drivers for to make the wifi work.11:02
ActionParsnipArielX_: what is the wireless chip your system uses?11:02
ActionParsnipArielX_: if you are unsure then:   sudo lshw -C network     will tell you11:02
malinusSo I've installed wine by running apt-get install wine. Then I checked the --version, and it said 1.4.1, next I checked their website, and it told me that the newest stable version is 1.611:02
malinusI've both update and upgraded apt-get, didn't really help11:03
reisiomalinus: what's the problem?11:03
ActionParsnipmalinus: what version of wine does the application you are intending to run work under?11:03
malinusreisio, that the apt-get installs an outdated version?11:03
OerHeks!info wine saucy11:03
ubottuwine (source: wine1.4): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (meta-package). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.4.1-0ubuntu7 (saucy), package size 0 kB, installed size 21 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)11:03
reisiomalinus: it's not outdated11:03
malinusI figured 1.4 is older then 1.6?11:04
reisioyup11:04
malinusso it's outdated - there is a newer version11:04
reisiomaking sure upstream didn't go insane, making binaries, this all takes time11:04
reisioit's trickle down11:04
bulliconalways paranoid of packages installing libs when I run apt-get11:04
reisioand since you have no particular need for 1.6 over 1.4, it isn't a problem11:04
popolonhi11:05
bulliconhow does Ubuntu take care of dependency clashes11:05
popolonhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-microcode/+bug/119437011:05
malinusNo idea what that means, I just assume I want the newest version of all software, obviously. Because that's the idea behind updating software?11:05
ubottuUbuntu bug 1194370 in intel-microcode (Ubuntu) "intel_microcode: prepend_earlyinitramfs: not found" [Undecided,Confirmed]11:05
ActionParsnipArielX_: use a pastebin, not only does it not scroll chats like crazy, but other users can see the output too and not just me11:05
popolonnobody has looked at this bug ?11:05
reisiomalinus: yup11:05
reisiomalinus: and 1.4 is the newest version easily available11:05
ArielX_how do I use the pastebin11:05
bulliconwhat if package x requires lib1.0 and package y requires lib0.9 -> does lib gets upgraded when I install pakcage x thus breaking packae y ?11:05
k1lbullicon: the maintainer does. but that does only count for origninal ubuntu packages, not PPAs or other 3rd party packages11:06
malinusreisio, with your logic, I might as well have installed ubuntu 10.00, because there isn't anything specific I want from 13.0411:06
InFlamesActionParsnip, wasn't there a bot response about http://gist.github.com?11:06
reisiomalinus: nah11:06
popolonit make this package useless, as it doesn't work at all :/11:06
reisiomalinus: my logic is don't find problems where there aren't any11:06
reisionot "use old things"11:06
bulliconk1l: so 3rd party packages could break my packages?11:06
bulliconor my ubuntu packages?11:06
OerHekspopolon, intel-microcode and amd-micocode do exist, intel_microcode does not.11:06
ActionParsnipInFlames: not sure, you can add one if you want11:06
k1lbullicon: yes11:06
OerHekspopolon, check softwarecenter for the exact programname11:07
k1lbullicon: that is one of the risks of using 3rd party packages11:07
malinusreisio, I guess it just triggers my autism, but I just can't understand why in the world I would use older version of a software, when never *stable* version is available.11:07
malinus*newer11:07
popolonOerHeks, yes11:07
popolonthat's the package intel-microcode11:07
reisiomalinus: well upstream has its own definition of stable11:07
reisiowhich is usually not particularly stable11:07
popolonbut the command line (in console : usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/intel_microcode: 136: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/intel_microcode: prepend_earlyinitramfs: not found)11:08
reisiomalinus: they only compare the stability of Wine by itself11:08
reisiomalinus: a distro has to make sure it works with every, other, package11:08
OerHekspopolon, so what package asks intel_microcode, as it is a typo-bug11:08
reisiomalinus: different goals, different definitions of stable11:08
malinusreisio, sorry I still don't know what upstream is. But I think I get the idea. I use older version of wine, because the newer one, hasn't been checked with all the other packages yet?11:09
reisiomalinus: upstream in this case is Wine, the Wine developers11:09
popolonthat's at the time of a kernel update11:09
reisioWine is stable to them when it does what they want on their particular boxes11:09
ActionParsnipmalinus: what version of wine is the application you want to run, known to run well in?11:09
popolonPackage: intel-microcode 1.20130222.3 (in the bug report)11:09
reisioWine is stable to Ubuntu when it does what all Ubuntu users in all situations using Wine for all types of things can reasonably expect it to do things correctly11:09
ActionParsnippopolon: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue11:10
malinusreisio, so are ubuntu devs or wine devs responsible of deciding that?11:10
reisiomalinus: but even outside of that there'd be a lag, between Wine developers (upstream) saying "okay, 1.6!" and Ubuntu people auditing all the changes, re-applying all their custom packages to make things correct on their end, and building binaries, and making them available11:11
ActionParsnipmalinus: you do realise that wine doesn't work like that?11:11
reisiomalinus: Ubuntu guys decide what goes into the repos, and when11:11
popolonActionParsnip, Ubuntu Saucy Salamander (development branch) \n \l11:11
malinusActionParsnip, I haven't checked yet, sorry, I'll be back in a minute. I just expected I wanted the newest version of all software.11:11
malinusActionParsnip, and no, I haven't used wine yet.11:11
ActionParsnippopolon: your support is not in here then. It is in #ubuntu+1 til release day11:11
OerHekspopolon, i read the bugreport, they talk about initramfs-tools but i see a typo bug.11:11
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reisiomalinus: but it's like that for a great many packages11:11
ActionParsnipmalinus: later is not better in wine11:11
popolonActionParsnip, thanks11:11
reisiosome are simpler than others, some are more reliably coded, but plenty aren't11:11
ActionParsnipmalinus: you need to check which version of wine the application you want to run works in11:12
popolonOerHeks, ok, thanks11:12
malinusActionParsnip, got it, thanks11:12
ActionParsnipmalinus: some will work better in 1.4 than 1.6, then pushing for the latest is bogue11:12
reisioit's "better", but not necessarily so for any particular situation :p11:12
ActionParsnipmalinus: some will work better in 1.4 than 1.6, then pushing for the latest is bogus11:12
reisioWine is a real fast moving target, yeah11:12
ActionParsnipmalinus: hence me asking, did you even check the wine appdb?11:12
popolonOerHeks, yes, need an initramfs update, but this could break lot of things...11:12
reisioI think he just wanted to use the latest in general, and didn't encounter an actual problem :D11:12
bulliconk1l: is there anyway I can dry run apt-get?11:13
malinusActionParsnip, it works better with 1.6 then with my current installed 1.4 apparently.11:13
bulliconand then see what packages rely on what libs will be overridden?11:13
ActionParsnipmalinus: there is a wine ppa which you can add11:14
k1lbullicon: yes, there is a option for that. i dont know its out of my mind but the manpage will tell (man apt-get)11:14
ActionParsnipmalinus: may want to ask in #winehq too11:14
luox%s11:17
bulliconk1l: cool thanks11:23
varunendrabullicon, to see dependencies and recommendations you can also use "apt-cache show <package>" which I think is quicker11:25
c0lumbHow do I remove bash prefix? username@computername?11:26
Fruityhey11:26
bulliconvarunendra: thanks, also found apt-cache check, from man11:28
bulliconvarunendra: Ideally, I would like to see dep clashes as well11:28
ArielX_ActionParsnip, what do you want me to do now? Show I remove all this in the file interfaces now11:29
ArielX_auto wlan011:29
ArielX_iface wlan0 inet static11:29
ArielX_address 10.10.0.111:29
ArielX_netmask 255.255.255.011:29
FloodBot1ArielX_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:29
Fruityi want to dual boot my windows pc with ubuntu and so i downloaded ubuntu and am supposed to burn it to a CD. i'm just wondering if i should extract files with WinZip before burning it to the cd or not?11:29
ArielX_and input only auto lo       iface lo inet loopback11:29
k1lArielX_: you got already muted last time. please use a pastbin service for showng alot of text in here11:29
k1l!paste | ArielX_11:29
ubottuArielX_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:29
ikonia!install |Fruity11:30
ubottuFruity: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate11:30
ArielX_!paste11:30
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:30
UrielVigilanteGood afternoon, I am installing the onlive gaming with wine but I get a response saying that lacks the GUI. what to do?11:30
UrielVigilante!gui11:30
ubottuThe graphical user interface (GUI) in Ubuntu is composed of many elements, including the !X server, a window manager, and a desktop environment such as !GNOME or !KDE (which themselves use the !GTK and !Qt toolkits respectively)11:30
ArielX_!paste | ArielX_11:31
ubottuArielX_, please see my private message11:31
ikoniaUrielVigilante try #winehq for wine help11:31
UrielVigilantethanks11:31
bulliconare there tools out there to measure my IO over time?11:35
ikoniaiostat, sar, ?11:36
herbert__I have an ubuntu system running with kernel 3.2.0, is there eSATA port multiplying or do I have to load a special module for that?11:36
bullicongot iostat, what are the metric to watchout for?11:36
bulliconikonia: ?11:36
ikoniabullicon: what do you mean ?11:36
UrielVigilanteikonia: none answear me there.11:38
bulliconikonia: http://pastebin.com/Pg3q4eyk11:38
bulliconikonia: I get there, but not sure if its high or low for my capacity ?11:38
bulliconthat*11:40
ikoniaUrielVigilante: UrielVigilantewait for a response there then11:40
ikoniabullicon are you actually having a problem ?11:40
bulliconikonia: well yeah, got some notification for high io backlog11:42
bulliconand tbh don't know what that mean11:42
bulliconim a dev slowly getting into sysadmin things.11:42
bulliconis 5.2% iowait high?11:44
ikoniabullicon: what is the problem you are actually seeing ?11:45
wzin_bullicon: 5.2% if constant, may be a sign of non healthy system11:46
wzin_but is generally not considered "high"11:46
bulliconikonia: I really don't see any problem, but I get high traffic at weekends11:47
bulliconikonia: trying to be proactive as marketing dept is planning more campaigns11:47
ikoniabullicon right - so if you have no problms why are you using tools you don't understand to look for problems11:47
ViperaBerusbullicon: Where do you see that message? Some log? What program gives it to you?11:47
bulliconikonia: cos I don't I want to understand them just in case11:49
ikoniabullicon yes, but you are looking for a problem that doesn't exist at this time11:50
bulliconViperaBerus: some api to monitor aws instances my boss installed, and just forwarded the notification to me11:50
ikoniabullicon: how do you expect to find something that doesn't exist,11:50
bulliconikonia: true11:50
bulliconikonia: actually, I want to plan for it11:50
bulliconso want to understand the metric for a start11:50
ikoniabullicon: yes, but you do'nt know anything about what you currently have, where thats generated, what is coming, how that will impact it11:50
bulliconikonia: true, but I hope to find out11:51
ViperaBerusAll you've told is, that you get some "high io backlog" message from "some API". How do you expect us to help in any way with that vague a description?11:51
ikoniabullicon are you are shooting blind11:51
bulliconikonia: I agree11:51
bulliconikonia: ok whats the first step to measure these things11:52
bulliconViperaBerus: like store io or cpu usage over time11:52
ikoniabullicon first step ? this is not how you approach it11:52
bulliconikonia: how do I approach it please?11:53
ViperaBerusFirst step would be figuring out what you actually want. IO covers way too much to simply monitor it all11:53
ikoniabullicon you have an idea of how your system works - or a problem to follow11:53
ikoniabullicat the moment you appear to have neither11:54
bulliconhmm11:54
bulliconunfortunatly, I am under pressure to solve a problem that doesnt exist11:54
bulliconthe API has sent a notification of high io backlog11:54
bulliconI sshed on server and things looks quite fine.11:55
ViperaBerusThen start by telling what API that is, and what the exact message is. That would at least give us a hint about what is happening11:55
ViperaBerusBe specific ;)11:55
ikoniabullicon what API ?11:55
ikoniabullicon: from what application ?11:55
bulliconViperaBerus: finally.io ?11:55
* bullicon digs email11:55
bulliconHigh I/O backlog (5.16578666667 queued I/O requests)11:56
ikoniabullicon: where are you seeing that11:56
bulliconikonia: from an email finally.io sent11:58
ikoniabullicon right - so that could be simpley configured wonr11:58
ikoniawrong11:58
ikoniabullicon: you need to look at what even would trigger that11:59
bulliconikonia: how do I get that?11:59
ikoniabullicon: see, this is the "blind bit"11:59
ikoniayou are following blind information that you have no idea what it means11:59
ikoniabullicon who setup finally.io11:59
ikonia(whatever finally.io is)11:59
bulliconikonia: I know :)12:00
bulliconbut sometimes, you do what your boss wants ?12:00
ikoniabullicon: not if it's stupid12:00
bulliconhe sets it up, and has mandated I solve the problem12:00
ikoniabullicon: who set it up ?12:00
bulliconmy boss12:00
bulliconi think you just enter your aws cred and thats it12:00
bulliconand it monitors your infrastructure12:01
ikoniabullicon right, so you talk to him and ask him for the rules/policy/triggers for finally.io12:01
ikoniabullicon: once you know what triggers it, you can then move forward12:01
bulliconikonia: he doesnt understand all that12:01
bulliconi will look into finally.io and find out12:01
ikoniabullicon: then he has probably not done a good job setting up the applicaiton12:01
ikoniabullicon: someone who doesn't understand enough to tell you the rules - will have done a very poor job in setting it up12:02
ikoniabullicon: therefore you cannot treat that as a problem to be solved12:02
bulliconikonia: absolutely, he is my boss :)12:02
bulliconikonia: I get you12:02
ikoniabullicon it doesn't matter that he's your boss12:02
bulliconfinally.io has no settings whatso ever12:03
bulliconon that fine-grained level12:03
ikoniabullicon: so a.) why ar eyou using it b.) why are you chasing a problem it generates when you can't set what it monitors12:03
ikoniabullicon: this just sounds like a shambles12:04
Ubuntu-user2060Does anyone know how you can change your desktop background with a nice transition. I want it to be changed from a bash script with an effect (slow fade, ...) because the standard transition is not what i want.12:04
dman777 /window close12:04
bulliconikonia: right12:04
ikoniabullicon: I would stop using an applicaiton you can't configure, stop trying to chase a problem that probably doesn't exist12:04
bulliconikonia: what monitoring software will you recommend ?12:05
ikoniabullicon: focus on setting up a monitoring application that does work and people know how to configure, then take a benchmark then move forward12:05
ikoniabullicon the UCL probably has a set of approved tools with people who know how to configure/manage them, talk to your IT dep12:05
bulliconikonia: :) ok12:07
bulliconi am just visiting, I don't study at UCL :)12:07
LongCatTHHey, anti-centoslian12:10
LongCatTHI wonder if I didn't login to my ubuntu server, it's tty with "hostname login: " prompt, how I can shutdown properly?12:11
LongCatTHwithout login and sudo halt12:12
LongCatTHI lazy to login, just want to halt up12:12
HypnotiXI am having huge problems with my ubuntu, i just rebooted the pc and it seems that my display drivers are missing12:16
z302HypnotiX, are you using proprietary drivers?12:18
z302do you have Nvidia\AMD?12:18
HypnotiXi have nvidia and no i didnt use proprietary drivers12:19
HypnotiXim on a laptop btw12:19
z302HypnotiX, so you want to stay with nouveau or want to install nvidia binaries?12:19
ArielX_A big thanks to ActionParsni12:19
ArielX_A big thanks to ActionParsnip12:19
HypnotiXi want to use the graphic card to its fullest capabilities :)12:19
HypnotiXbut not have graphical errors12:19
yenalhi can someone help me how to determ if a window of an application exists with xdotool ?12:20
HypnotiXright now i cant select a resolution higher then 102412:20
z302HypnotiX, try opening a terminal and typing sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-settings nvidia-xconfig and then reboot12:20
ActionParsnipHypnotiX: if you run:   sudo lshw -C display     do you see an Intel GPU too?12:20
HypnotiXyes ActionParsnip12:21
ActionParsnipz302: might be an Optimus setup12:21
ActionParsnipHypnotiX: look into bumblebee12:21
ActionParsnipz302: see12:21
z302ActionParsnip, you are right, tnx for pointing it out12:21
HypnotiXso i should install bumble bee ?12:22
ActionParsnipHypnotiX: yes you need it to support the mess that is Optimus12:22
HypnotiXah but i need to run VM also12:23
ActionParsnipHypnotiX: i suggest you resolve one issue at a time12:23
ActionParsnipHypnotiX: get the host sorted then worry about VMing12:23
HypnotiXwell i really need it for my work12:24
HypnotiXhave to run photoshop also so yeah12:24
ActionParsnipHypnotiX: then install the VM software but you may find the display cramped12:24
ActionParsnipHypnotiX: photoshop may run in Wine, or use Gimp12:24
HypnotiXgimp doesnt display the psd files i receive correctly12:24
ActionParsnipHypnotiX: i see12:25
machinariusHey people, anyone with knowledge about mono here? Why won't mono load an assembly unless it's run as root (Running the xsp4 script as root works but not as a normal user)12:25
HypnotiXthis display drivers was fine until today12:25
HypnotiXand i have been using this setup for two weeks now12:25
ActionParsnipHypnotiX: tried an older kernel?12:25
HypnotiXno12:25
HypnotiXim on 13.0412:25
yenalis there any output of xdotool if the window I want to activate with "xdotool search --desktop 0 --sync --any --class "firefox" windowactivate" doesnt exist?12:28
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HypnotiXwell i installed bumblebee ill reboot and see what happens :)12:29
Aquawordhi, any idea how to access laptop localhost (ubuntu) with a tablet, trough wifi?12:31
ActionParsnipAquaword: how do you mean 'access'?12:32
Aquawordview it in a browser12:32
HypnotiXright so still my max resolution is 102412:32
ActionParsnipAquaword: if you can ping it, you are 'accessing' it12:32
ActionParsnipAquaword: to do what? what is the pupose of the access?12:32
Aquawordi need to test responsive site design12:32
Aquawordon a real tablet device12:32
ActionParsnipAquaword: then type it's IP in the browser and it will connect to the apache service12:33
Aquawordit's ?12:33
ActionParsnipAquaword: that's not a question12:33
HypnotiXso ActionParsnip any other ideas?12:33
ActionParsnipHypnotiX: that's all I know. I am avoiding Optimus as much as I can, I think its a cheap hack and should be scrapped12:34
HypnotiXso how can i get my old driver to work again12:34
ActionParsnipHypnotiX: hold SHIFT at boot, select an older kernel12:35
HypnotiX!nvidia12:36
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto12:36
ActionParsnipHypnotiX: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee12:37
HypnotiXi just installed that and nothing12:37
HypnotiXi still cant select my normal resolution12:37
ActionParsnipdoes the system have a make and model?12:37
AquawordActionParsnip, apache ip is 127.0.1.1 for me, but mobile chrome gives "could not connect to... "12:37
ActionParsnipHypnotiX: did you search for that with respect to installing Ubuntu on it?12:37
HypnotiXyes Lenovo b59012:37
ActionParsnipAquaword: well yeah, because that is on the server. THINNK about what 127.0.1.1 actually is.12:38
ActionParsnipAquaword: how will that possibly work on a remote system?12:38
ActionParsnipHypnotiX: are there any ubuntu guides for a Lenovo B59012:38
HypnotiXno12:38
Ben64Aquaword: do you plan to host that website yourself?12:38
Aquawordright..12:38
AquawordBen64, its only a test at home12:39
ActionParsnipAquaword: 127.0.0.0/8 is how a computer talks to ITSELF, so will not work on an external system12:39
HypnotiXactually there is ActionParsnip12:39
HypnotiXThe Lenovo B590 laptop has been awarded the status of Certified for Ubuntu12:39
Ben64Aquaword: i know, but i mean in the future12:39
Aquawordof course it will published12:39
Aquaword+be12:39
HypnotiXbut there isnt a guide for it12:39
ActionParsnipHypnotiX: then why are you asking when ou have clearly just asked and not done any searching online regarding this?12:40
Ben64Aquaword: well you should learn a lot more about apache and networking in general before that happens12:40
HypnotiXi had no problems with it until today, the driver just stopped working for no reason12:40
ActionParsnipAquaword: so you need the IP address of the PC that it uses on the network, probably 192.168.0.0/24    127.0.0.0/8 will ONLY work on the PC the web service is running on12:40
Aquawordyes12:40
ActionParsnipAquaword: so why did you use 127.0.1.1 on the tablet?12:41
Aquawordit was a bad idea12:41
ActionParsnipAquaword: when 127.0.1.1 ill only access the local system?12:41
ActionParsnipAquaword: think....a little12:42
ViperaBerusAquaword: Try "ifconfig -a" - Somewhere in that output, you should have the IP address (inet addr)12:42
xwalkI'm running into a problem with Ubuntu 12.04.3 where the Unity interface will not load properly after authenticating at the login screen. The default Ubuntu desktop background is all the shows, which is not the background that is showing at the lightdm login screen. Using the "unity --reset" command yielded no results. plz halp12:42
AquawordViperaBerus, tried already, browser continue loading..12:42
ViperaBerusAquaword: You did? And found 127.0.1.1 under eth0?12:43
ihreAquaword: obviously you're not running a webserver on your tablet.. Your webserver is located on your PC, which has an IP like 192.168.1.2 or something like that. Enter the IP of your PC in the browser of your tablet and you're done ..12:43
Aquawordok12:43
Aquawordgot it12:43
Aquawordit was the firewall, sorry12:44
Aquawordthx all12:45
krizoeksomeone here know of any tool that would benchmark and suggest improvements for to make the computer go faster?12:51
Guest539I am new to this...and i am wondering 1] how to use ubunto with a memory stick and 2]How to install it as a dual OS...am i in the right place?\12:52
ArielX_yes12:52
ActionParsnipGuest539: the OS is called Ubuntu, not ubunto12:53
Guest539i stand co0rrected12:53
ActionParsnipGuest539: you can use Unetbootin to put the Ubuntu ISO on the memory stick with persistance and it will load and run from that12:53
xwalkFollowing up on my problem: I just tried all th solutions at askubuntu.com/questions/205376/ubuntu-12-10-unity-wont-start-on-startup and didn't have any of those possible solutions work.12:53
ArielX_http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows12:54
ActionParsnipGuest539: if you use Windows7 or higher, you can resize your NTFS to make free space and install to the freed space to make a dual boot, you will want about 10Gb to be comfortable12:54
Guest539Thanks for that...I have an SSD in my laptop...128 GB,so space is at a premium12:55
z302are questions relating ubuntu-server pertinent here?12:56
ActionParsnipz302: sure12:56
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z302ActionParsnip, unsure about installing ubuntu server with linux-generic or linux-server kernels. I have read on the internet that they were merged long ago but I am still asked for it in the install. Iso is 13.0412:57
ActionParsnipz302: i'd go for 12.04 for a server, it is LTS12:57
ActionParsnipz302: 13.04 is only supported til January 201412:57
janisozaurhi, my hp probook 4710s with c2d t6570 supports and has VT-x enabled in bios, however virtualbox doesn't allow me to set up any 64-bit guests. is there anything else i'm missing from my config?12:58
ActionParsnipjanisozaur: I'd ask in #vbox12:58
madsyI have a dual screen setup now on a laptop with a optimus chipset, and the graphics freezes for a short while every 30 seconds. What could be wrong, and how do I begin troubleshooting it?12:59
z302ActionParsnip, tnx for the tip. its a home server and I am just 'toying' with it at the moment btw. still, which kernel?12:59
madsyMusic and video runs fine while the screen is frozen, and CPU usage does not go up12:59
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madsyAnd the two monitors are almost the same model. Benq G2450 and G246013:00
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laamahi13:06
laamahow can i define service?13:08
laamai have similar configuration to this guide: http://fcorti.com/category/enterprise-content-management/alfresco/page/3/13:09
laamathere is command13:09
laamaservice alfresco start13:09
laamai dont know where is this service defined13:09
laamacould you help me?13:09
HypnotiXhow can i install the nvidia-graphics-drivers-31013:12
UrielVigilanteInstalling Kingoffice with wine its ok, but onlive app give me this message error :  unable to initialize installer GUI.13:14
ikoniaUrielVigilante: #winehq13:15
UrielVigilanteAnd appear a bar saying loading indefenitelly ....13:15
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ferrby13:16
ArielX_does anyone know how to install postfix13:18
ikoniaArielX_: open the package manager, find the pstfix package, install it. It's installed by default on ubuntu I believe depending on your version13:18
llutzArielX_: sudo apt-get install postfix   and then browse postfix.org/documentation13:18
ArielX_lol13:19
indrajeethey anyone help me13:19
indrajeeti have an issue regarding Xubuntu13:19
ArielX_I mean how to install smtp mail server13:20
HypnotiXsudo lshw -C video shows two drivers in use how can i make ubuntu use the nvidia one and not the vga one /?13:20
ikoniaArielX_: postfix is an smtp mail server13:20
z302!ask13:20
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:20
indrajeethow can i change my screen resolution in Xubuntu 13.0413:20
z302System settings -> display13:21
indrajeetmy graphics card's from Sis mirage13:21
llutzArielX_: running  a mailserver isn't something to be explained in 2 minutes. so go and read the documentation, there is an article in the *buntu-wiki too iirc13:21
ikoniaindrajeet: you'll have problems, sadl13:21
ikoniasadly13:21
ArielX_thats the problem13:22
indrajeetactually my laptop's default resolution is 1280 X 72013:22
llutzArielX_: and btw, in most cases people better use something like ssmtp/msmtp than a full-featured (blown) mta13:22
indrajeetbut Xubuntu recognize only 800x 60013:22
indrajeetplz help me how can i get my original resolution13:22
faugusztinindrajeet: does X actually recognize your resolution ? check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and search for your resolution13:25
ArielX_mind giving me a full tutorial or rather step by step before I kill my PC... have tried severally but end up with errors with smtp/mail server13:25
ikoniaArielX_: it's not something you should be talked through13:26
ikoniaArielX_: you need to understand it13:26
llutzArielX_: 1st: why do you need an mta, just for sending out some mails from webfrontend?13:27
ArielX_for a webmail interface13:27
llutzArielX_: so go with ssmtp/msmtp13:27
ikoniaArielX_: webmail does not mean you need your own smtp server, you could point it at a remote one/your ISP's one13:28
ArielX_mind giving me a full tutorial or rather step by step before I kill my PC... said it before... lets go with ssmtp/msmtp13:28
ikoniaArielX_: as I said, it's not something you get talked through, you need to understand it13:29
ArielX_trying all ikonia13:29
user__i try to update xubuntu but i getting this13:29
user__http://paste.ubuntu.com/6175583/13:29
ArielX_got it.. thanks13:30
ArielX_ill keep reading13:30
zykotick9user__: "13:31
zykotick9gzip: stdout: No space left on device" you're out of space i'd guess13:31
BluesKajHiyas all13:32
xenszxyo13:32
marcoothe Makefile at linux-headers-3.8.0-31-generic is not working. when i was working with linux-headers-3.8.0-30-generic it *did* work. Any ideas?13:32
ikoniathe make file ?13:32
marcooyes13:33
ikoniait's a headers package, there is no makefile for headers13:33
marcooit says it doesnt have a rule13:33
marcoowhat? linux-headers-3.8.0-30-generic had a makefile for sure!13:33
schwamihow do I change the standard search engine on the address bar in firefox?13:33
user__strange. i  have free space on my harddrive13:34
LottieYou mean Your front page?13:34
zykotick9user__: do you have a separate /boot partition?13:34
user__yes13:35
ActionParsnipschwami: what is the output of: lsb_release -a13:35
zykotick9user__: and how much space does it have?  do you have a reason for a separate /boot?13:35
GothPawSo I'm using 13.04 and came to my PC this morning to find all my "appearance" settings reset back to original state. How is it that this could happen? Any suggestions13:35
Lottieschwami, Do you mean your front page (the website that pops up when you load firefox?)13:36
ActionParsnipschwami: well, -sc     is sleeker13:36
marcoolinux-headers-3.8.0-31-generic/build13:36
marcoocan anyone help?13:36
ikoniamarcoo: sorry, what is the actual problem ? what are you trying to do13:37
marcooif i hadnt made an update, this wouldnt be happening13:37
schwamiLottie, no, I meant when you type something in the url bar13:37
ihremarcoo: define "this"13:37
ActionParsnipschwami: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc13:38
marcooikonia: i'm a computer science student. for a project, i have to code a kernel module. Last night, i updated the kernel headers and now it wont compile my module. Apparently, the Makefile at linux-headers-3.8.0-31-generic/build doesnt have a rule.13:38
ikoniamarcoo: what command are you running ?13:39
marcooit's not a problem with my module. it compiled fine with linux-headers-3.8.0-30-generic/build13:39
marcoomake -C $(DIR) M=$(PWD) modules13:40
marcoowhere13:40
marcooDIR := /lib/modules/linux-headers-3.8.0-31-generic/build13:40
ikoniamarcoo: what target does it think is missing ?13:40
Tecanwhats dpkg-source for ?13:41
ikoniamarcoo: I'm assuming "modules" is the target it's complaining about13:41
schwamiActionParsnip, precise (I am currently on Ubuntu. Not on Linux Mint)13:41
LottieDpackage manager Tecan13:41
pureHello!13:41
LottieHi13:41
pureIs there any way to disable the Alt-Left/Alt-Right shortcuts for switching ttys?13:41
llutzTecan: type "whatis dpkg-source"13:42
TecanLottie , i'm trying to figure out how to use dsc and diff files13:42
Tecani need to compile festival13:42
marcooikonia: no, last night it worked perfectly with 30 headers13:42
ikoniamarcoo: what target is it complaining about ?13:42
marcooikonia: let me paste you the output13:42
ikoniamarcoo: use a pastebin please.13:43
ActionParsnipschwami: why do ou mention min?13:43
HypnotiXCan someone help me get my graphics drivers up and running again? i have tried everything i read on google13:43
ActionParsnipschwami: why do you mention mint?13:43
schwamiActionParsnip, the problem's on mint13:43
ActionParsnipschwami: mint is not supported here13:43
ActionParsnip!mint | schwami13:43
ubottuschwami: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org13:43
schwamiok, thx13:44
jony_easyriderhttps://ssh.serverdo.in/ - this site can be trusted?13:44
GothPawSo I'm using 13.04 and came to my PC this morning to find all my "appearance" settings reset back to original state. How is it that this could happen? Any suggestions13:44
ikoniajony_easyrider: nothing to do with this channel13:45
ZteamHi guys13:45
marcooikonia: http://pastebin.com/Tm4v15fX13:46
ikoniamarcoo: looks like you've made a call to something that's been removed as an include13:47
ZteamMy X-server has stopped working since I updated my freshly installed Ubuntu 13.04 system13:48
RoryZteam: Does it still work if you boot from an older kernel by selecting it in Grub?13:49
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ZteamRory: nope not even from X failsafe mode :-/13:50
marcooikonia: are you *completely* sure about that?13:50
ZteamRory: And I have no xorg. conf to edit either13:52
RoryZteam: Can you get to a TTY with Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?13:52
ikoniamarcoo: not at all, that's what it looks like13:53
ZteamRory: yes that works13:54
zykotick9Rory: sidenote, those are called consoles, short for "linux console".  ANY terminal, including Xorg-terminals are TTYs...  #ubottu incorrectly uses TTY as well i believe, so you're not alone ;)13:54
ikonianot "sure" as I don't know your code or the background, but when you look at the error syscall_32.tbl is not being built (check if there is a target for it in the old makefile) and unistd_32.h seems to depend on it13:54
Roryzykotick9: Nothing in what I said was incorrect, and I'm aware of the terminology13:55
zykotick9Rory: then i'd suggest using the correct terminology then, using incorrect terms for things leads to confusion down the road13:55
RoryZteam: If you use the command: "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log" do you see errors?13:56
marcooikonia: cant be that13:57
ikoniamarcoo: why do you think that ?13:58
zykotick9Zteam: while looking through Xorg.0.log pay particular attention to lines with EE in them13:58
yenalhi how can i print mouse location on mouse click in terminal "xdotool search --any . behave %1 mouse-click getmouselocation" donst work for me :/14:00
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yenalwhile "xdotool search --any . behave %@ mouse-enter getmouselocation" is working14:01
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ZteamRory: warning EE error (NI not implemented)14:04
ZteamRory It's also tries to load alot of display drivers14:06
marcooikonia: the file it can't compile has something to do with syscalls. What i'm doing isn't related to syscalls.14:06
marcooikonia: this must be an update error14:07
ikoniamarcoo: that file has a depend14:07
ikoniamarcoo: check the makefile to see if there is a target for that file to be made, check the old and new one14:07
marcoothe old has been removed from my system14:08
ikoniamarcoo: you can still check it14:08
marcoohow?14:08
ikoniamarcoo: grab the package from the repo, you can browse the repo on http14:08
ZteamRory: worth to mention: I was trying to install the Nvidia driver but Jockey never let me choose it14:11
RoryZteam: Yes that was worth mentioning14:12
RoryZteam: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current14:12
bananarana!list14:13
ubottubananarana: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:13
marcooikonia: sorry, these Makefiles are too complex for me14:13
ZteamYes I'm trying this now14:15
pureIs using the default terminal in tty1-6 a bad idea?14:15
ZteamRory: I was thinking about installing that package myself14:17
Rorypure: No it's what they're there for14:17
ZteamRory: But should not the default driver still be working?14:18
pureA lot of characters aren't displaying correctly. :/14:18
InterWebCan I ask any question of xubuntu on here ?14:20
compdocInterWeb, you can try14:20
ZteamRory: anyway it works now14:20
yenalanybody who has similar problems with xdotool ? I want the mouselocation upon mouse-click on the whole screen... "xdotool search --any . behave %@ mouse-enter getmouselocation" works but "xdotool search --any . behave %@ mouse-click getmouselocation" does not.. only sometime if I click right and then again left14:21
KillaYabuh3y im some noob here trying to figure out what Im doing wrong14:21
KillaYabucan someone help?14:21
pureIs there any way to know if I've set up my terminal correctly in terms of charset and locale?14:21
Rory!details | KillaYabu14:21
ubottuKillaYabu: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."14:21
KillaYabuSo I was able to install ubuntu just fine but when it rebooted it gave me the windows error system page saying I needed to do something with a CD or something14:23
ZteamRory: anyway thanks for all your help14:25
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RoryKillaYabu: It said that :o that's an oddly vague error message14:26
pureLANG=en_GB.UTF-8 is correct?14:26
Rorypure: If that's the one you want, yes14:26
pureLots of characters aren't displaying (namely line drawing and quote marks)14:26
Rory"quote marks" like this are us-ascii, can you see them?14:27
pureYup.14:27
madsyI figured the cause of my problem. Apparently, enabling real-time threads in /etc/security/limits.conf causes mini-freezes whenever an application that uses them runs.14:27
pureSome are showing up as U`14:28
madsyHow can I fix that? I really need RT threading for Renoise and music sequencing14:28
maurizio2ciao14:28
Rorymadsy: I believe you need to install the realtime kernel, what Ubuntu version are you using?14:28
pureCan I take a PrtScr of a terminal?14:29
Rorypure: Sure14:29
RoryOut of interest is there a preferred image host for this channel?14:29
madsyRory: 13.04 raring14:29
madsyRory: But wouldn't a vanilla kernel ignore the config settings if it isn't supported?14:30
Tecanhow would i build this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/festival/1:2.1~release-1ubuntu2 ?14:30
Rorymadsy: Honestly I don't know enough about it14:30
Tecani have all 3 in a folder14:30
RoryTecan: debuild14:30
Tecani seen that earlier, looks like a useful command lol14:31
purels14:31
pure>_>14:31
madsyRory: Thanks anyway. I guess I'll settle without RT for now14:33
zykotick9Rory: re:image host, !paste suggests using http://imagebin.org/?page=add14:35
Tecanpure, there has to be something i'm missing, debuild cant find the changelog14:36
RoryTecan: How did you get the sources? apt-get source festival ?14:36
Tecanno just wget into a folder14:36
Tecanthen untard14:36
RoryTecan: OK you need to extract them14:36
RoryTecan: Then cd into the folder and there should be a file called INSTALL14:37
RoryTecan: Why are you building it, as a matter of interest? It's in the repositories already built14:38
Tecanyes but i need to patch it for hts support14:38
Tecanmaybe i duno, its really confusing haha14:38
Ari-Yanghello, I added apt source lines to /etc/apt/sources.list and got this when I ran apt-get update right after: W: GPG error: http://www.bunkus.org ./ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY BCCF7AF0B6571FCA14:40
Ari-Yangwould that be a problem when I try to install the program (mkvtoolnix)?14:40
goldstardoes anyone know where I can find the default php extensions dir in ubuntu ? I did sudo apt-get install lamp...14:42
schnitzl-mobileHi. How to join a wifi network on ubuntu server. I added the network in /etc/14:44
schnitzl-mobileIn /etc/network/interfaces i mean14:44
NeoKarnagoldstar,  lamp-server^ ?14:44
pureimagebin.org/27236514:44
bananaranaciao14:44
goldstarNeoKarna: yes14:44
bananarana!list14:45
ubottubananarana: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:45
schnitzl-mobileBut it wont connect on reboot14:45
BluesKajschnitzl-mobile:  sudo dhclient eth014:45
vusieohhhh jesusu finaly14:45
pureI take it I've set something up wrong?14:45
schnitzl-mobileSudo dhclient wlan0 for wifi?14:46
NeoKarnagoldstar,  you mean php.ini file ?14:46
svipHow do I resize the main partition while sitting on it?  I can't use the root recovery shell?14:47
BluesKajsch14:47
svip(Because apparently, it won't umount.)14:47
BluesKajschnitzl-mobile: yes14:47
goldstarNeoKarna: I mean the php modules/extensions folder. I want to add a new extension to php14:47
vusie@svip best to use live disk14:47
BluesKajschnitzl-mobile: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/14:47
svipvusie: :S I wished I could avoid that, it's just a server on a virtual machine after all.14:48
schnitzl-mobileBlueskaj i did that. Its the 2nd nrtwork in taht file14:48
svipvusie: Can a server installation disc also behave as a live disc (albiet only with a shell)?14:49
vusie@svip..ohhh m not sure about that14:49
BluesKajschnitzl-mobile:  sudo ifconfig wlan0 up14:49
vusie@svip but i guess so14:49
faugusztinNeoKarna: php -i | grep extension_dir14:49
ridhansomebody help me14:49
ridhanwhy i can't enable my wifi14:50
Rory!details | ridhan14:50
ubotturidhan: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."14:50
NeoKarnafaugusztin,  but that contains no modules14:50
BluesKajschnitzl-mobile:  then to, Find WiFi Networks : sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid14:50
Rory!wifi | ridhan14:50
ubotturidhan: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs14:50
ridhani have problem with my wifi. i'm runing ubuntu version 12.04.  my probem i can't enable my wifi14:51
faugusztingoldstar, NeoKarna: not sure if i follow - that is the directory where modules installed via pecl/phpize go :)14:51
Roryridhan: How do you know?14:51
schnitzl-mobileYea- foind my network' is the interface config case sensitive?14:51
goldstarfaugusztin: correct14:52
faugusztingoldstar: and that is why "php -i | grep extension_dir" is pointless to figure that out - you should use pecl or phpize14:52
goldstarfaugusztin: what would the command be ?14:52
BluesKajschnitzl-mobile:  just use , sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid14:52
Roryridhan: What I'm getting at is, what's going on? What happens when you try to connect normally?14:52
schnitzl-mobileDid that. I found my network14:52
faugusztingoldstar: for what ? phpize ?14:53
faugusztingoldstar: http://php.net/manual/en/install.pecl.phpize.php14:53
goldstarfaugusztin: well I need to ext path so with php you do php -i | grep whatever, what would i do with pecl to get that data14:53
BluesKaj!who | schnitzl-mobile14:54
ubottuschnitzl-mobile: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)14:54
faugusztingoldstar: nothing, you don't do anything with it - that is the task for phpize to figure out all the settings14:54
goldstarfaugusztin: ok14:54
schnitzl-mobileSry. As you see i am here with an android device using some shitty irc client. I dont have auto complete Nick Name with tab14:54
faugusztingoldstar: and before you ask where phpize is - it is in php5-dev package14:55
NeoKarnagoldstar,  see /usr/lib/apache2/modules , if that's what youa re searching14:56
goldstarNeoKarna: its not there14:56
fishcookeri've remastered ubuntu distro itu spesific need, how to mass install it through LAN14:56
NeoKarnawhich one are you searchig for ?14:57
goldstarits not for me btw, i dont use ubuntu, its for colleage :\14:57
fishcookeritu = *into14:57
BluesKajschnitzl-mobile:  mobile could nean a laptop, so I couldn'r see what kind of device you are using14:57
NeoKarnagoldstar,  which one are you searching for ?14:57
goldstarNeoKarna: i dont understand14:57
NeoKarnagoldstar,  which module are you searching for ?14:58
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NeoKarnagoldstar,  you installed modules for php right ?14:58
faugusztingoldstar: the point is - your .so php modules will be in directory returned by php -i | grep extension_dir14:58
goldstarNeoKarna: not searching for any one in particular, just need add a new extension that was compiled14:58
faugusztingoldstar: but to get that module there, you need to compile it against the PHP version you are using14:58
NeoKarnagoldstar,  I think that is done through php.ini14:59
faugusztingoldstar: and you do that via the phpize command i linked you earlier14:59
goldstaralright guys14:59
goldstarthanks14:59
paulus68which ubuntu version is better for a 64bit machine de 64 or 32 bit version of desktop and would it be better to use the current version or the upcomming at the end of october14:59
faugusztingoldstar: unless it is a precompiled module from apt repository, in that case you don't have to do anything, as the package will add the required ini stuff to /etc/php.d (if i remember correctly)14:59
BluesKajschnitzl-mobile:  don't pm me pls , we can do suport in here , so others can also help if they wish15:00
schnitzl-mobileOk- no prob but im that case i cant tag auto complete your nick15:00
schnitzl-mobileBack to topic. ;-)  i did grep essid15:01
BluesKajschnitzl-mobile:  you could type it15:01
schnitzl-mobileOk. I can. Which makes me even slower on that android keyboard but since you really like that blueskaj15:02
BluesKajschnitzl-mobile:  and using wifi without network manager gets complicated15:02
schnitzl-mobileBluesKaj,  Which network manager for console do you suggest15:03
jmgkhi NeoKarna15:04
BluesKajschnitzl-mobile:  it's easier to see your replies , network manager for the desktop panel is best for wifi in my experience ,mush easier to set up15:04
BluesKajmush=much15:05
schnitzl-mobileI have ubuntu server. So not even x 11 server ia installed ;-)  BluesKaj15:05
NeoKarnajmgk, hi!15:05
jmgkits me :)15:06
schnitzl-mobileBluesKaj, I got it. Apperantly interfaces file does support only one interface. I commented the old one out. This works for now.15:07
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NeoKarnagoldstar,  if I am right you have made a php extension like curl and don't know where to place it so that it works .15:09
goldstarNeoKarna: not to worry I have fixed it15:09
NeoKarnagoldstar,  how did you do that ?15:10
goldstarNeoKarna: php -i | grep extension_dir15:11
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NeoKarnagoldstar,  so you placed your extension in that folder?15:12
BluesKajschnitzl-mobile: ok, becaquse I'm not familiar with wifi over /etc/network/interfaces15:13
schnitzl-mobileBluesKaj thank you anyways :-)15:13
faugusztinjapan :D http://www.engadget.com/gallery/google-play-vending-machines-in-japan/1251736/#!slide=125173815:13
faugusztin(srry, wrong channel)15:14
goldstarNeoKarna: well I didnt, I just needed to know where to modules folder was to check if the files I needed where in there.15:14
nick07i installed ubuntu server 12.04 and ajenti, ip is 192.168.2.120, but i cannot connect to the server15:16
PeanutSince running updates on two identical machines that run 'Raring', I now get 'rename3' as ethernet interface name instead of 'p2p2', which it used to be. Does anyone know how to fix this on raring? Does the system still look at /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persitent-net.rules, and if so, how do I populate that nowadays?15:17
nick07ping in windows is ok15:17
StarFlowerDoes Ubuntu support 3tb hard drives15:17
NeoKarnagoldstar,  you mean modules like php-curl?15:17
goldstarskypeyeh15:18
goldstaryeh*15:18
CatKillerStarFlower: sure15:18
StarFlowerCatKiller, thanks15:18
NeoKarnagoldstar,  curl is placed in /usr/bin15:19
bill_shi, I did an update of my 12.04 LTS desktop and found I could only boot to terminal due to NVIDIA conflicts. I found an item about it at askubuntu.com, followed the solution, and now I can't boot to terminal either, only to a graphical login screen that fails and redisplays itself. I can't access recovery mode or a GRUB menu. looking stuck15:21
roflinHeya guys I'm trying to upgrade from ubuntu 13.04 to the 13.10 final beta. But in the upgrade procedure it notifies me that it cannot calculate the upgrade path. But it doesn't tell me which packages are causing this problem. So I'm afraid I won't be able to make the switch even when it is released. Can i somehow get some more info about the cause of this error?15:24
ActionParsnipbill_s: do you have a switchable GPU (aka Optimus)15:24
bill_sActionParsnip: sorry I don't understand the question15:28
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FiremanEdroflin: Your question would be better answered on the #ubuntu+1 channel since it is still in development and not a supported release covered in the main #ubuntu channel.15:34
roflinowk then I'll ask my question in there thanks.15:34
FiremanEdroflin: good deal15:35
K1rkHey everyone.15:35
mjaykHaya15:35
K1rkI'm troubleshooting this Dell WiFi \ Broadcom issue still.  Anybody have time to look at my thread and give me some input on whether my drivers are in good shape?15:35
K1rkhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217778015:36
aylernihi, i have ubuntu 13.04 (on a server) on home, the problem is, VNC cannot start any folders or any program. i went home today. now mouse on VNC is frozen (on 100mbit LAN). is this a virus, or what is problem?15:43
paulus68ActionParsnip: little question if I my I have a 64bit desktop what is better to install the 32/64 bit desktop version with the 13.04 or wait till the 13.10?15:45
paulus68server is slow :(15:48
jokoonI have a macbook with lubuntu installed15:50
jokoon13,0415:50
jokoonhow can I know the temperature ?15:50
jokooncpu etc ?15:50
k1ljokoon: see lm_sensors15:52
k1l!sensors  > jokoon15:52
ubottujokoon, please see my private message15:52
paulus68little question I have a 64bit desktop what is better to install the 32/64 bit desktop version with the 13.04 or wait till the 13.10?15:53
K1rkpaulus68: "better"?15:54
jpdspaulus68: Doesn't matter.15:54
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TJ-paulus68: If the PC has more than 4GB of RAM, the 64-bit version will give processes better access to all RAM, at the expense of slightly larger storage and in-memory requirements15:55
ViperaBerusIf it is slow, figure out why it is slow instead of reinstalling?15:55
mjaykpaulus68: 13.10 is out ?15:55
paulus68mjayk: no this will come out at the end of next month15:56
mjaykpaulus68: you can already download / install it15:56
paulus68TJ-: thanks15:57
scottyinzeohi all - I have been unable to get the nvidia proprietary drivers working correctly on Ubuntu 13.04 on my Macbook Pro 6,2 - everything appears to install correctly, but as soon as I login after a restart, the screen all of a sudden goes black - i haven't been able to find any errors in the logs either...any ideas?15:57
TJ-paulus68: Also, 64-bit CPUs have many more on-chip registers which means processes will often execute faster because they don't have to keep shuffling variable values between slow RAM and fast CPU registers15:58
RoryWhat's the syntax in /etc/sudoers to allow user "foo" to run the script "/path/to/script" without a password?15:59
jokoonk1l, thanks !15:59
paulus68TJ-: got you and then for the final question better to wait for the 13.10 or take the 13.0416:00
K1rkRory: http://askubuntu.com/questions/159007/how-do-i-run-specific-sudo-commands-without-a-password16:00
TJ-paulus68: If you're doing a fresh install now I'd recommend starting with the 13.10 beta 2 release... we're in the final freeze now, only bug-fixes to add (in theory!), so once installed the regular update routine will ensure it is up-to-date. If you install 13.04 now, you'll then have to do a potentially disruptive "do-release-upgrade" later. For my money, one release version install per month is enough!16:02
TJ-paulus68: I've been running 13.10 server for a couple of months and the core is stable... I'm also installing new PCs with the desktop beta2 without any glaring problems up to now16:03
paulus68TJ-: ok thanks for your help16:04
gtc_hi world16:05
tim`is there a resolution to the gnome-3 alt-tab getting stuck on the screen issue?16:07
tim`can't find a good one searching tickets :/16:07
gtc_hi16:08
bill_strying my question again, after waiting a while: hi, I did an update of my 12.04 LTS desktop and found I could only boot to terminal due to NVIDIA conflicts. I found an item about it at askubuntu.com, followed the solution, and now I can't boot to terminal either, only to a graphical login screen that fails and redisplays itself. I can't access recovery mode or a GRUB menu. looking stuck16:08
20WAC8ZJ7not yet, working on it16:08
bill_sI would be happy with just being able to retrieve my latest files and reinstall. I don't have a lot of important stuff on the main drive16:09
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ajpHaving trouble with a Rosewill/Marvell PCI ethernet card being detected. I can see it when I run lspci but it doesn't show up in my ifconfig, nor do the connectivity lights light up. Anyone have suggestions?16:15
K1rkajp:  Pastebin the output of lspci please?16:15
TJ-bill_s: Does that mean that you can't get to the GRUB boot menu by holding down the Shift key as the machine starts?16:15
bill_scorrect16:16
[twisti]does this display an image with lots of numbers for you ? id appreciate if a few people could check that16:16
[twisti]http://www.boringville.com/tdtest02/16:16
[twisti]a friend told me thats just a black screen on ubuntu16:16
[twisti]but im hoping its his pc, not ubuntu16:16
ajpK1rk: here's the important part: http://pastebin.com/WxaazgmP16:16
corndog69totheriHey, is this thing working?16:21
ViperaBerusCorndog: Not at all16:22
devilmaycryone problem16:22
TJ-bill_s: If the machine goes on to boot, but GRUB ignores Shift, I'd have to suspect a bad keyboard issue for starters (USB issue possibly?)16:22
devilmaycryI use my pc to create the wifi16:22
bill_sTJ-: no idea16:22
devilmaycrybut my phone can't use it16:23
bill_snever had keyboard issues before16:23
[twisti]could anyone please click my link and let me know if it works on ubuntu ?16:23
bill_sI can boot from a DVD and the keyboard works fine16:23
devilmaycrywhy?16:23
[twisti]so i can know if my friends problem is with his pc or with ubuntu in general16:24
TJ-bill_s: Well, GRUB won't just start ignoring the Shift key. The only issue sometimes can be - depending on Motherboard/BIOS - that it needs tapping rapidly rather than being held down in order for GRUB to see the key-press16:24
bill_sTJ-: OK I'll try that16:24
TJ-bill_s: If you can get that working, you can then get to recovery mode, and make some progress on fixing the original issue !16:24
Chat4431hello16:25
bill_sTJ-: nope, no effect, I still get my graphical UI login screen, which accepts my password, flickers a few times, and then I'm back at my login screen16:26
TJ-bill_s: USB keyboard, or PS/2 style?16:26
TJ-bill_s: Try switching to a VT and logging in there Ctrl+Alt+F1 then log-in16:27
bill_sTJ-: USB, through a multi-switcher16:27
vusieirc/LAS16:27
bill_sTJ-: what's a VT16:27
vusiecd /LAS16:27
vusiel16:27
TJ-bill_s: I've had that issue when the BIOS 'forgot' it was supposed to have USB "legacy mode" enabled... its a setting that has the BIOS provide USB services to early boot before an OS starts. Might be worth checking in the PC's BIOS/firmware settings to see if there's such an option and that it is enabled.16:28
TJ-bill_s: VT = Virtual Terminal. Linux starts 7 VTs in multi-user mode, tty's tty1 through tty7. tty7 runs the GUI, the others are text-mode and you can switch amongst them. When in the GUI you have to press Ctrl+Alt+F1 through F6, but once in a text VT you only need to press Alt+F1 through F7 to switch16:29
bill_sTJ-: there is a BIOS options screen I can get to during the boot process but I couldn't figure out what would be relevant16:29
bill_sTJ-: OK but I am lost, sorry16:30
bill_sTJ-: OK, I did ctrl-alt-f1 and got a terminal login16:30
bill_sTJ-: so I can log in at the command line level16:31
TJ-bill_s: It's a long shot but in my experience, 90% of the causes of GRUB not answering to the Shift key, is a USB keyboard and most often, its the BIOS setting that is the culprit. It is possible the USB switcher is causing a problem. Try connecting the USB keyboard directly to the PC if you can.16:31
TJ-bill_s: Yes, you can, just like a recovery mode terminal (its the same thing).16:31
bill_sTJ-: since I can get to a command line using ctrl-alt-f1, do I still need to pursue the GRUB option?16:32
staniq:16:34
TJ-bill_s: Pursing GRUB... not immediately but I'd put it on your todo list since if there are other more serious errors you can't do recovery. And as you already have issues, I'd want that proven to be available to avoid locking you out.16:37
bill_sOK16:37
bill_sTJ-: thanks, have to go now16:38
dtigueanyone know why fail2ban would work on one ubuntu 12.04 server and not the other, both servers have the same fail2ban config files16:38
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CatKillerdtigue: The problem description is a bit vague :p16:42
mjaykdtigue: it would figure to reason that the servers are different16:42
Biomechddammit, rhythmbox outright refuses to play a bunch of my songs via streaming through samba. it's as i they're all corrupt.16:43
dtigueCatKiller, well, the problem is a bit vague too, it's not banning through wordpress one one server and it does ban through wordpress on the other,  i figure something is different, but it's not the config files for fail2ban that are different16:43
CatKillerdtigue: Maybe the log files "look" different because of differing wordpress versions16:44
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dtiguei have checked all of fail2bans files, and i've checked all the wordpress config files16:44
CatKillermaybe fail2ban isn't running16:44
dtigueit's running, it bans ssh attempts, just not wordpress attempts16:45
wabbit_?16:45
CatKiller<CatKiller> dtigue: Maybe the log files "look" different because of differing wordpress version16:45
trewq_Hi Folks - Just installed 13.04 and upgraded the kernel to 3.11. Now I need to install turbostat, and it says I need to install  linux-tools-3.11.0-031100 - How can I know which repository this exists in?16:46
JonoL* Hi,  how to delete BASH history  and delete the remove  history command? :)16:47
OerHeks!find linux-tools-3.1116:47
ubottuPackage/file linux-tools-3.11 does not exist in raring16:47
MonkeyDusttrewq_  that version of linuxtools is not in the raring repos16:47
CalinouJonoL: delete .bash_history16:47
Calinouwhich is in your ~16:47
JonoLCalinou:   That didnt answer  Q16:47
JonoLCalinou:  and delete the remove  history command? :)16:47
dubhdarahow do i set screen size in my xorg.conf file16:47
JonoLDelete history AND delete the delete history command !16:48
vusiec16:48
trewq_MonkeyDust: yeah - looks like it does not exist in the Saucy repo either16:48
Calinouso you don't want history to be saved at all?16:48
dubhdarai know to do the modes thing but it ain't taking it16:48
Calinouedit .bashrc then16:48
CatKillerJonoL: I think *why* you need to do that is the question16:48
Calinouchange HISTSIZE=1000 with HISTSIZE=016:48
JonoLCatKiller:  Because I want to16:48
MonkeyDusttrewq_  find a PPA, but that's not supported here16:48
CalinouCatKiller: being paranoid :)16:48
CatKillerYou want to clear the current history and make sure people can't clear it anymore or something?16:48
trewq_MonkeyDust: how can I confirm? I searched under http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and I do not see anything related to this pacakage16:48
MonkeyDusttrewq_  confirm what exactly?16:49
dtigue_JonoL: rm ~/.bash_history && !!16:49
CatKillerJonoL: That's not an answer to the question. Why I ask is that depending on why you want to do it you may be making a mistake. The idea here is to help you achieve your goal, not simply blindly answering questions16:49
wabbit_JonoL is waching t_Co 256 bit P**n16:49
trewq_MonkeyDust: Confirm that any version of linux-tools exists in some PPA offered by Ubuntu16:49
trewq_MonkeyDust: what is the normal process for searching for a PPA? (besides google)16:50
JonoLHow can I make it so on logout of any user the history is deleteD? Is there a global part for this ?16:50
MonkeyDusttrewq_  you'll have to search the internet, you're on your own when it comes to PPA's16:50
[twisti]could anyone please click my link and let me know if it works on ubuntu ? http://www.boringville.com/tdtest02/16:50
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trewq_MonkeyDust: Is http://packages.ubuntu.com/ broken? Can't seem to find anything related to linux-tools (which I know exists in some form in raring)16:51
OerHekstrewq_, how did you install that kernel ? and look here, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-tools no linux tools version you want.16:51
MonkeyDusttrewq_  the link works, but ubottu already showed that what you want is not yet in the repos16:52
JonoLHow do I set histsize for all users?16:52
lanteauI'm running ubuntu server on a laptop with a 3TB USB hard drive attached for storage. lately my load averages have been through the roof, so much so the server is unusable. In dmesg I see a lot of "timing out command, waited 360s". I'm not sure how to figure out what's wrong here?16:52
trewq_OerHeks: I installed from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11-saucy/16:53
lanteauIn top all the load is coming from "wa" which is I/O if I know what I'm talking about16:53
[twisti]oh come on, is it really too much to ask that someone clicks my link and says 'that works for me' or 'thats broken for me too' ?16:53
[twisti]im trying to support ubuntu here16:53
trewq_OerHeks: Thanks - I see that it does exist in the PPA http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/linux-tools16:53
CatKiller[twisti]: "Ubuntu" is not a web browser. Test it with firefox. It should work in the same way16:53
OerHekstrewq_, oh, if you have saucy issues, join #ubuntu+1 until release16:54
[twisti]sorry, right, my bad, ubuntu + chrome16:54
[twisti]it works fine on my windows16:54
lanteauChrome is Chrome is Chrome16:54
CatKiller^16:54
[twisti]well, it works on chrome on my windows16:54
[twisti]and it doesnt work on chrome on my friends ubuntu16:54
CatKillerSo then it works on Chrome ;)16:54
trewq_OerHeks: Yeah, I am still in raring, installing a newer kernal16:54
[twisti]thats why im asking here to see if thats a general ubuntu issue likes he claims16:54
CatKillerI personally don't click on random links16:55
CatKillersorry16:55
CatKillerit's not safe16:55
dtigueJonoL: change the option in /etc/bash.bashrc16:55
k1l[twisti]: for offtopic like "is it down" or "does it run on $machine" please consider ask in #ubuntu-offtopic16:55
MonkeyDusttrewq_  sounds like a Frankenstein system, we cannot support that16:55
frankensteinpfft16:55
[twisti]it seems to me that its on topic, considering that the claim is that it doesnt run on ubuntu16:55
lanteauany ideas anyone for figuring out why usb-storage is bringing my system to a crawl?16:55
cyberlalahey there am a newb16:55
CatKillerUbuntu != browser16:55
ViperaBerus[twisti]: How can it be a general Ubuntu issue when Ubuntu isn't a browser? Unless you use some Windows only fonts without a fallback or something insane like that ;)16:55
MonkeyDustfrankenstein  nothing personal ;-)16:55
frankensteinMonkeyDust, :)16:56
cyberlalacan someone help me out am lost16:56
[twisti]right, again, sorry, the claim is it doesnt run on chrome on ubuntu16:56
trewq_MonkeyDust: ok thanks.. appreciate your help and 4 messages about how you can't support this. Is it OK if I wait around for other helpful people to offer any pointers?16:56
dtiguecyberlala: just ask your question16:56
[twisti]it uses 3d rendering, so it seems to me like that might perfectly well be os related16:56
k1l[twisti]: stop it now16:56
dtiguecyberlala: if someone knows the answer they will help you16:56
cyberlalakk16:56
MonkeyDusttrewq_  it's not me, it's the channel16:56
trewq_MonkeyDust: ??16:57
StarFlowercyberlala, what is your question?16:57
CatKillertrewq_: RedHat only supports their products (and that costs > 300$ a year) *only* if *no* other programs but the default are installed. They do this because it's near impossible to support non standard products16:57
CatKillertrewq_: Your issue could be caused by many, many different possibilities16:58
cyberlaladtigue am trying to set up a wireless file sharing network in which i can transfer file from one laptop to the other16:58
CatKillertrewq_: While you can definitely ask, don't expect that you will definitely get an answer16:58
alecjwHi there, I'm trying to run an ubuntu livecd on a friend's laptop. It will boot up, then after a couple of minutes just suddenly restarts. Anyone have an idea what might be going on?16:58
CatKillertrewq_: Seems reasonable to me16:58
StarFlowercyberlala, how far have you gotten?16:58
dtiguecyberlala: you have many options, samba will be the best if you have any windows machines needing to access the files16:59
CatKilleralecjw: You could look up the log in /var/log/messages see if anyting pops up16:59
lillo!list16:59
ubottulillo: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».16:59
cyberlalai what to share these files on kubuntu platform16:59
trewq_CatKiller: yeah I get it.. Really, I am trying to find out the deal with PPAs (without my head being chewed out) in this place16:59
cyberlalaone machine can access the other but not vice versal17:00
alecjwCatKiller: How? once the system dies, the FS is lost from RAM...17:00
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StarFlowerwhich machine can access which?17:00
CatKilleralecjw: Ah yes sorry, make sense. You could try a Ubuntu live image on a USB stick with persistence17:00
Guest90289Hi, i just changed my nvidia driver on ubuntu 12.04, now when i try to start i get a blank screen, i could boot atall, im on live cd at moment..... is there away to fix this?17:01
wilee-nileetrewq_, Don't take it personally you did not understand the limitations here and kept pursuing a dead horse, its not the channels fault or the users.17:01
CatKillertrewq_: I guess they are unsupported software repos.17:01
alecjwCatKiller: hmm, i suppose. I might give that a try then, thanks.17:01
Yahuntuwhich gps navigation system would an ubuntu-fan use in his car?17:03
Yahuntuwhich works best with ubuntu?17:03
cyberlalais there any newbe channel for me to join17:04
Guest90289can anyone help me with blank screen at startup.....happened when i changed nvidia driver, now i cant boot.... im on live cd now17:04
wilee-nilee!nomodeset | Guest9028917:05
StarFlowercyberlala, I was trying to help, which machine can connect to which?17:05
ubottuGuest90289: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:05
yingoin ubuntu you have sound recorder which records what comes from the mic, I need something that will record what comes from mic together with the youtube video that is being played, so in short something that will record every sound outputed17:06
StarFlowercyberlala, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168571817:07
Guest90289cant i fix it with live cd?17:07
mjaykGuest90289: when you say you cant boot how far do you get ?17:08
wilee-nileeGuest90289, Not without a chroot, that is a much harder way.17:08
Guest90289can i uninstall ALL nvidia drivers from my live cd to my installed ubuntu17:08
Yahuntuwhich gps navigation system would an ubuntu-fan use in his car? (which works best with ubuntu?)17:08
StarFlowerwhen you install ubuntu from live-cd it shouldnt keep the drivers17:08
Guest90289it starts to boot then i get a blank screen with flicker cursor at top right17:08
Guest90289it happened when i chaged nvidia driver17:09
wilee-nileeGuest90289, boot in with nomodeset and fix it.17:09
StarFlowerare you talking about proprietary drivers17:09
Guest90289now i cant boot hence im on live cd now17:09
mjaykif you press crtl+alt+1 can you get into a cmd session17:09
mjaykGuest90289:17:09
Guest90289sorry im a noob can anyone give me percise instructions?17:09
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g3kyHi, for someone familiar with routers. I have a dlink, and I am able to ssh into it and run iptables, but I can't seem to make it persistant across reboots. Any idea how?17:10
mjaykGuest90289: do you get past grub ? if so remove the live cd boot and press ctrl+alt+117:10
Guest90289i get to sellect ubuntu then straight away blank screen17:10
CatKillerg3ky: Not sure it's an Ubuntu question, but basically iptables doens't save its config byu defaylt17:11
CatKiller*default17:11
mjaykGuest90289: get to the black screen then try pressing them buttons17:11
CatKilleryou save the config and on boot you restore it from file17:11
StarFlowerNavigate to the directory you downloaded the .run from, then do:17:11
StarFlowersudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-304.60.run --uninstall17:11
StarFlowerIf you have a different version, obviously, change the name. Now do:17:11
StarFlowersudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau17:11
StarFlowersudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf17:11
FloodBot1StarFlower: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:11
StarFlowerThat last rm might fail; if it does, don't worry about it. It's just to ensure that if Nvidia installed a custom xorg.conf, you got it out of there.17:11
wilee-nileemjayk, if you really know the problem and the answer help them, but I doubt you do, don't make it harder acting like you do.17:11
g3kyCatKiller, Yes, but any idea how I can automate that on a router?17:11
Guest90289i installed from drivers17:11
Guest90289additional drivers17:12
mjaykwilee-nilee: im not dont be an arse17:12
StarFlowerFrom nvidia website?17:12
CatKillerg3k: By calling "iptables-save" or whatever it's called and editing the startup scripts. Have you tried #dlink if that exists?17:12
wilee-nilee!attitude | mjayk17:12
ubottumjayk: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines17:12
mjaykwilee-nilee: if you think you know it better feel free to use your words being helpful not arse like17:12
CalinouStarFlower: don't use the .run; use the repos17:12
g3kyCatKiller, Wish it did have iptables-save. There is no #dlink.17:13
CatKillerhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo17:13
CatKilleriptables-save iptables-restore maybe?17:13
trewq_I was able to install turbostat. Downloaded the kernel source and run make (after installing msr module)17:13
CatKilleror iptables save17:13
g3kyCatKiller, tx =)17:13
CatKillerg3ky: What distro is this router on?17:14
Yahuntui have ubuntu on my computers. i need to get gps navigation working in my car... which system would best work with ubuntu? (to then transfer data and all of that...)17:14
wilee-nileemjayk, You were giving answers without knowing the problem, that was my only concern.17:14
mjaykwilee-nilee: well next time try to structure you words such that they help the situation and not the opposite17:14
StarFlowerCalinou, if he installed from downloaded drivers shouldnt he use the script that came with them17:15
g3kyCatKiller, It's a firmware. Just a basic linux install I guess. But not open source.17:15
CatKillerg3ky: Came with the router? In any case you're probably in murky waters if you go and modify iptables and startup scripts on an embeddedplatform17:16
CalinouStarFlower: don't use drivers from nvidia.com, they are terrible17:16
CatKillersome weird stuff could happen17:16
CatKilleryou could brick it :p17:16
Calinouuse the repos, if you absolutely need an updated driver use xorg-edgers PPA17:16
Guest90289ok i have no clue what todo i cant log into my ubuntu after changing additional drivers17:16
Guest90289im on live cd now17:17
Guest90289but dont know how to fix17:17
StarFlowerGuest92076, did you download drivers from nvidia website17:17
g3kyCatKiller, True, even if I can ssh, files under etc are not editable.17:17
mjaykGuest90289: Doing it on livecd isnt the way17:17
tonytGuest90289 you said you got a blank screen on bootup ?17:17
CatKillerg3ky: You need to be root17:17
Guest90289yes i get blank screen17:17
Guest90289so i cant do anything17:18
tonytpress ctrl + alt + f217:18
tonytthat should get you to a log in17:18
Guest90289ok ill restat17:18
Guest90289but i dont think it will work17:18
Guest90289be back soon i guess17:18
g3kyCatKiller, I'm root. But it seem to be writable by a predefined user --> "594".17:19
CatKillerDoesn't matter root ignores filepermission in general17:19
CatKilleror you can reset the permissions on any files17:19
CatKillerg3ky: Sounds like you shouldn't do it @:p17:20
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g3ky=P17:21
paulus68root without knowing what to do can be very dangerous17:22
fellayaboyi see a description for multiuser mode that says ...does not configure network interfaces and does not export networks services...does that mean i wont be able to change the mac address on my network card if i run a script in that level?17:22
module000fellayaboy: no, it just means it won't start networking or network services(like NFS, SMB)17:23
g3kyCatKiller, The problem is .. "sh: cannot create textfile: Read-only file system".17:23
fellayaboyso then that would be the best time to change the mac address....before it uses network interfaces17:23
fellayaboythanks module00017:24
ezra-sg3ky, mount it rw17:24
module000fellayaboy: no prob17:24
CatKillerg3ky: Ok so it's not a permission issue but the root filesystem is read only, probably has static files, and the config is rolled by another higher level program17:24
CatKillerg3ky: Don't mess with it you're not going to achieve much, apart from breaking the router OS.17:25
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* g3ky is scared now. 17:28
g3kyCatKiller, I guess, I will have to live with manually running iptables everytime. =/17:28
bill_sI just finished reinstalling my video drivers after an update screw-up, and now when I boot my (12.04 LTS) desktop I get to the UI login screen, with my usual full resolution and desktop background, but when I enter my password the screen goes dark and then reloads the login screen. I can run a Guest session OK, and I can log in at a VT using my password, but ... ?17:30
bill_sThe only related thing I could find on askubuntu was related to file system encryption but I don't think I changed anything related to encryption17:31
elyezerIf I add, remove or update interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces using a script how can I reload all configuration? Simply using service networking restart is not working17:32
CatKillerelyezer: On Ubuntu desktop "network manager" handles connections, so whatever you set in /etc gets overriden17:33
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CatKillerelyezer: Is that desktop or server?17:33
module000bill_s: check your logs, both your local .xession and the syslog17:35
elyezerCatKiller: ubuntu server, now I'm running a virtual machine, after I will run this script on beaglebone black (arm based board)17:35
bill_smodule000: how do I do that? where are they?17:36
CatKillerOk strange then. Did you try "/etc/init.d/networking restart" otherwise?17:36
module000bill_s: .xsession is in your home folder (/home/yourusername), and your syslog is /var/log/syslog17:36
elyezerno17:36
CatKillerotherwise "ifup -a" should bring all the interfaces up17:36
bill_smodule000: OK, thanks, I'll have a look right now17:36
module000bill_s: i'm walking away from the desk, so if you hve questions just ask the channel about what you find in there17:37
bill_smodule000: will do17:37
elyezerCatKiller: do I need to down all, then edit the /etc/network/interfaces and finally up them?17:37
Forzaciao17:37
CatKillerelyezer: Nope, just up them17:37
CatKillerelyezer: And then run the "networking restart" script17:38
lauratikaevery time te monitor goes off a black line comes at the bottom and have to change settings of monitor to work again, any idea what can be the issue?17:38
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elyezerCatKiller: just to give you some context, I have a server that sends the configuration to the client, then client need to updates its configuration17:38
CatKillerelyezer: yep, the hypervisor needs to send the config to the VM or something like that?17:38
bill_sI have no .xsession file in my /home/username directory17:38
bill_sand trying to cd to /var/log/syslog gives me "not a directory"17:39
smollyIm on a live cd with ubuntu 12.04 and im looking for the disc utility manager but cant find it?17:40
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TJ-bill_s: "/var/log/syslog" is a file ... do "ls -latr /var/log/" to list all the logs files and directories, most recently changed last.17:42
elyezerCatKiller: the vm is only for testing purpose. There is a web application running at a public IP with clients configurations. Clients are booted (physical machine) using dhcp configuration and asks server to send its configuration. After receiving the configuration, client need to update its network config and apply those changes. PS. may be virtual interfaces to configure too17:43
bill_sTJ-: OK, /var/log/syslog does exist, and it's huge, and I'm not sure what I should be looking for in it17:44
jaequeryanyone here familiar w/ setting a 90 day password expiration via PAM? i've updated the login.defs and it works for new users, but all the past users don't seem to take effect. any ideas?17:44
CatKillerelyezer: Well so is the problem that the interfaces are not up (not showing up in "ifconfig"), or that they are up but with the wrong IP address?17:45
TJ-bill_s: "syslog" records all the major system-level activities. To view it from a command-line the best way is to view it with a 'pager' such as "less" .. that way you can move around in the file and search for strings, easily. Eg. "less /var/log/syslog" then press "End" to go to the last entry in the file, then move up to viw recent actions. Pay attention to timestamps and try to match those with the exact time the errors you are researching occurred.17:46
elyezerCatKiller: eth0 is up with dhcp and needs to get a static ip but continues with dhcp address, this is the common scenario17:47
piggahhello17:47
CatKillerso /etc/network/interfaces are now ok but running /etc/init.d/networking restart doesn't update eth0?17:47
elyezerCatKiller: that is the point17:47
TJ-jaequery: Read "man shadow" regarding the "/etc/shadow" password file's fields. You'll notice that existing users have different values. You may want to alter those using "usermod -e" or similar17:48
bill_sTJ-: OK, I've tried, but I don't see anything that means anything to me17:48
CatKillerelyezer: Is that what is happening so?17:49
TJ-bill_s: Remind me of the core issue? Was it an nvidia graphics driver issue?17:49
CatKillerYou ran this script17:49
CatKillerand eth0 didn't get updated?17:49
piggahive broken my xserver on a 12.04 upgrade by activating a newer nvidia driver, (one was already installed). when i run startx I get "no screens found". Is there a way to revert to the previous nvidia driver i was using from the CLI?17:49
jjjuui98http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=307317:49
jaequeryTJ: i've used chage, is that not what i want?17:50
bill_sTJ-: core issue was nvidia drivers being incompatible after a 12.04 update. I found an item on askubuntu that showed me how to clear and reinstall the drivers. After following the instructions, I can boot to a login screen that has full resolution, but logging in just sends me back to the login screen (with no message about failure). I can log in at a VT using the same name and password17:50
elyezerCatKiller: yesm this is what happens17:51
TJ-jaequery: of course, that is the better way. You used "chage -E" ?17:51
elyezerCatKiller: here is an example https://dpaste.de/FCte. The ip is not changing and the virtual interface is getting up17:52
jaequeryi used: chage -M 90 -m 0 -W 7 username17:53
elyezeris not getting up*17:53
TJ-bill_s: OK, best thing to do first is to identify which driver is in use. When the GUI X-server starts it write the driver info to "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" ... reading that should reveal which driver is in use and if any errors have occurred. Errors are marked with "(EE)", warnings with "(WW)" and general info with "(II)"17:53
elyezerif I reboot all work well, but I don't like to reboot because the configuration could change17:54
CatKillerelyezer: Did you try "ifdown -a" and "ifup -a"?17:55
TJ-jaequery: Is the 3rd column of "/etc/shadow" empty for those users? That is the "date of last password change". An empty field means aging is disabled.17:57
bill_sTJ-: no errors, only a few warnings at the start like not being able to find a cyrillic font folder. version seems to be 304.88 of the nvidia driver17:57
jaequeryya looks like this username:$1$D1fogXky$4x5/xqSPwSN21ifjcQFFe.:15972:0:99999:7:::17:58
bill_sTJ-: but note that I can log in as Guest and everything looks fine, so the graphics seem to be OK at least superficially17:58
TJ-bill_s: OK ... I'm just covering the bases to ensure we don't get caught out.17:59
bill_sTJ-: right17:59
neyderhi there, i'm trying to launch kiwix from a desktop launcher as a daemon but it doesn't load, only if I get a terminal opened with verbose mode17:59
neydersome suggestions?17:59
TJ-bill_s: You checked for a stale "~/.Xauthority" ?17:59
bill_sTJ-: no, never heard of it18:00
TJ-bill_s: I got hit by the same issue earlier (after installing 13.10 with encrypted home) and it turned out (from reading "/var/log/lightdm/*" logs) that it was caused by some kind of password mismatch causing a failure to unwrap the encrpyted home's passphrase. I deleted the user account and recreated it, which fixed it. I'm not suggesting you do that!! but wonder if you might be seeing the same cause?18:01
bill_sTJ-: no idea18:02
epsilonorionHaving issues with my wifi.  I can ping the internet, however, I can not ping any of my local machines.  Any ideas where to start looking to solve the problem?18:03
TJ-bill_s: What do you see for this: "ls -l /home/$USER/.Xauthority" - replace "$USER" with the user's name ... you should see permissions "-rw-------"18:04
ezra-sepsilonorion, DSL router with AP isolation on?18:05
j0llyr0ttenjust a niggly question: when i resume from suspend i get this black screen of white informational/debugging text or buffer that flashes me before i get X and the password box. any ideas what it is?18:05
epsilonorionno, just a netgear router with no modification18:05
jdolesSo... I start my computer and Ubuntu shows a cursor, and that's it.18:05
bill_sTJ-: yes, that's what I get18:05
CatKillerepsilonorion: Not really a Ubuntu question though :p18:05
ezra-sepsilonorion, let me rephrase it, have you checked the wifi configuration for ap isolation?18:06
jdolesInstead of a cursor I was expecting to see something like lightdm.18:06
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jdolesI am running 12.04 LTS exactly to *not* have these kind of basic issues.18:06
epsilonorionCatKiller: sorry, I figured it would be since all computers in my house can ping each other besides this one ubuntu machine18:06
TJ-bill_s: You're at a terminal right now, yes? If so, and you don't have a GUI session for that user logged-in, do "rm .Xauthority" to remove that file, then try logging-in again from the GUI18:06
quantumpantshi guys, Im having problems getting VLC to play dvd's? any ideas?18:06
CatKillerepsilonorion: You did not mention this important info before :p18:07
CatKillerepsilonorion: And they all join the same network name (not a "guest" one or anything?)18:07
TJ-bill_s: If that works it might not be a permanent fix since I'm reading there's some underlying cause that causes it to come back, but at least it'd give you a way to work around it until its solved.18:07
epsilonorionezra-s: it is disabled by default and I haven't changed it18:07
epsilonorionall the same18:07
CatKillerepsilonorion: And the Ubuntu machine can't ping the other nodes in the network that can ping each other fine?18:08
ezra-sepsilonorion, yeah, latest statement about all other machines being able to ping each other add some revealing info...18:08
epsilonorionCatKiller: yes.  It can't, but the others can18:08
CatKillercan you do "route -n" and paste it somewhere18:08
CatKilleras well as "iptables -L"?18:08
epsilonorionthey attempt to ping the machine, however, they just sit there18:09
TJ-epsilonorion: pastebin the output of "ip route ls && cat /etc/resolv.conf"18:09
CatKillerNo but what happens when you ping *from* Ubuntu on the other machines (that can ping each other fine)?18:09
mhdHow do i change mouse sensitivity in the x direction, separate of the y direction?18:09
bill_sTJ-: that got me to my desktop!  Thank you so much18:09
TJ-epsilonorion: Are you trying to ping the other PCs by their name, or by their IP. Try with their IPs. If that works, then your issue is DNS name resolution.18:09
epsilonorionsimply ip18:10
epsilonorionI am ignoring my custom host file at the moment18:10
TJ-bill_s: Great. Remember that fix... because I haven't identified a complete resolution in any bug report so far.18:10
bill_sTJ-: right18:10
TJ-epsilonorion: Can the other PCs ping the Ubuntu PC?18:10
bill_sTJ-: I'm thinking of replacing this particular box anyway, maybe a good time to move ahead on that18:11
epsilonorionand now it is randomly back again18:11
epsilonorionyes18:11
epsilonorionTJ-: actually, originally no18:11
orogorkernel 3.11 is only for ubuntu saucy  right ?18:11
TJ-bill_s: OK, but the issue is more general than the specific PC so you may still hit it :(18:11
epsilonorionbut now it can all of hte sudden18:11
bill_sTJ-: right18:11
epsilonorion*the18:11
jdoleslightdm is running, but it looks like kdm?18:11
TJ-epsilonorion: What WiFi network is it? 802.11n?18:11
epsilonorionTJ-: yes, 802.11n18:12
jdolesepsilonorion: most likely you have just misconfigured your network.18:12
TJ-epsilonorion: What wifi hardware in the PC? Intel by any chance?18:12
jdolesHardware is almost never broken.18:12
epsilonorionTJ-: Intel18:12
jdolesProbality(human failure) >> Probablity(electronics without moving parts failing)18:12
epsilonorionjdoles: possibly, but same settings I have in both my desktop ubuntu system and laptop vm ubuntu setup18:12
TJ-epsilonorion: There's a well-known problem with Intel iwlwifi device driver where 802.11n stalls. pastebin us the output of "iwconfig wlan0" and look at the  last line about retries and invalids18:13
Fanatic89kdm is disabled by bios always apears on start up, what can i do?18:13
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DoctorWedgeworthhow do I boot into a shell instead of GUI? Normally I'd boot into runlevel 3, but Ubuntu looks to have renumbered 5 to 2 and made 3 4 5 the same?18:13
Fanatic89*kvm18:13
jdolesepsilonorion: if two machines share the same ip there is a big problem.18:13
jdolesepsilonorion: I don't know whether that's the case here.18:13
epsilonorionall settings but the same ip.18:13
epsilonorionnetwork ssid, etc.18:13
epsilonorionrouter shows it connected and alive with its own ip18:14
TJ-epsilonorion: show us the pastebins I requested18:14
TJ-epsilonorion: The workaround on the iwlwifi drivers is to disable 'n' mode in the driver so it doesn't do MIMO... limits throughput to 54Mbps but at least it works.18:14
epsilonorionTJ-: first, the iwconfig, shows 0 retries and invalids18:15
epsilonorionsetting up route now18:15
Fanatic89when i start my ubuntu there is always a message "kvm is disabled by bios" what can i do?18:15
TJ-epsilonorion: And "wlan0" is the correct interface? What Bit Rate is it showing for the connection?18:15
CatKillerFanatic89: Are you using KVM?18:15
TJ-Fanatic89: Enter BIOS at power-on and enable Virtualisation18:15
jdolesFanatic89: you tell whoever wrote that code to write better error messages.18:16
jdolesFanatic89: the error message is completely wrong.18:16
i00nsu_Fanatic89: be sere your processor have that feature18:16
i00nsu_sure*18:16
CatKillerprobably no need to enable it really18:16
Fanatic89what means kvm?18:16
i00nsu_Fanatic89: using qemu ?18:16
jdolesFanatic89: they should have said "you have disabled the virtualization extentions in your BIOS. Restart your computer and configure the BIOS such that it is enabled."18:17
TJ-Fanatic89: Kernel Virtual Machine ... CPU hardware acceleration support for virtual machines18:17
jdolesNo.18:17
jdolesKVM is a Linux implementation (so, _software_) which is supported by hardware extensions.18:17
Fanatic89okay i will try that! thank you!18:17
jdolesThere are multiple virtual machine implementations on Linux.18:18
epsilonorionTJ-: The interface is "wlan5" - http://pastebin.com/jw6d5HdT18:18
jdolesXen is another.18:18
jdolesFanatic89: but all of this stuff can be found on wikipedia.18:18
TJ-epsilonorion: haha! so the iwconfig you mentioned was for that interface, not the wlan0 I suggested?18:18
epsilonorionno, it was for "wlan5"18:18
epsilonorionbit rate is 72 Mb/s18:19
TJ-epsilonorion: First thing I notice is there's no default route configured. If the other PCs are in the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet then that shouldn't be an issue, but it would prevent Internet access.18:19
DoctorWedgeworthjdoles: that's in the kernle18:20
DoctorWedgeworth*kernel18:20
DoctorWedgeworththat code18:20
epsilonorionThey are all in the same subnet18:20
TJ-epsilonorion: OK, well if the TX retires/Invalids go up the issue would be the one I described. As it doesn't seem to be, then you need to monitor the interface from another terminal to see what is happening whilst you try pinging, etc. "sudo tcpdump -vvvni wlan5"18:21
epsilonorionTJ-: I can do that.  I will also try to disable N as you were suggestion.  Thanks for the help and sorry for the trouble18:23
TJ-epsilonorion: We're here to solve the issues, don't apologise.18:23
rothamhey.. i accidentally loaded my rsa keys into a public git repo (stupid i know).. anything I should do for security besides reseting all ssh keys on services/servers i use?18:24
rothamand changing my own key18:24
alexander007ich habe keine probleme :)18:25
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DJones!de | alexander00718:25
ubottualexander007: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!18:26
TJ-epsilonorion: The disabling of N is done as a parameter to the IWL driver. "11n_disable:disable"18:26
orogorrotham, i am unsure you can revoke it , like for pgp18:26
scavmartinI need some rpm build help on ubuntu. I am trying to build a rpm and it keeps on messing up the --buildroot directory and looks for it "/usr/local/TeamCity/rpm/BUILDROOT/silveragent_sa-1.59.0-rc0.29399.x86_64/opt/srt/packages/silveragent_sa-1.59.0-rc0.29399" when it is just in the ending "/opt/srt/packages/silveragent_sa-1.59.0-rc0.29399" directory. When I add a --buildroot /tmp to see how it draws the paths I get it going18:26
scavmartin"/tmp/opt/srt/packages/silveragent_sa-1.59.0-rc0.29399" so I want a --buildroot / but it does not allow / to be buildroot. How do I get around this?18:26
rotham:|18:27
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grex25Someone has an answer? http://askubuntu.com/questions/351970/laptop-lid-closed-with-external-monitor18:30
Dr_Willisgrex25:  you did search askubunbtu.com first befor posting a new question? seems most everything ive ever seen asked lately has been asked befor on the site.18:31
Dr_Willisand i do seem to recall i had a laptop i could close the lid and the system would still run (with the lcd off) but that was 2+ years ago.18:32
grex25Dr_Willis: As you can see, I already search Bug requests and so on.18:32
TJ-grex25: Yes, it's a well known and annoying issue with Gnome and Unity. I gave up trying to create patches for it a year or more ago18:32
Dr_WillisI cant see anything. Im on a console only system.18:32
Dr_Willis;)18:32
grex25Dr_Willis: Gnome, shame on you18:33
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* Dr_Willis goes on haxoring his raspberry-pi.18:34
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Roryrotham: That sounds reasonable, make sure that key is not authorised to log in ANYWHERE18:41
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Roryrotham: And don't feel too bad about it being a stupid mistake; I typed my Freenode password in #ubuntu once18:41
DoctorWedgeworthtrying to connect a USB hard drive and I keep getting connect-debounce failed, port 1 disabled  - how can I fix this?18:41
rothamRory: lol thanks18:41
RoryDoctorWedgeworth: What Ubuntu version are you using?18:42
DoctorWedgeworthRory: raring with mint olivia, kernel 3.8.0-25-generic18:42
ArielX_#linux-mint18:43
DoctorWedgeworthisn't this likely to be a kernel issue rather than a front-end issue?18:43
TJ-DoctorWedgeworth: See bug #117728918:44
ubottubug 1177289 in Linux "hub 2-0:1.0: connect-debounce failed, port 1 disabled" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117728918:44
QuintaessentiaHello there.18:44
RoryDoctorWedgeworth: Raring with Mint Olivia what does that mean?18:45
Rory!mint | DoctorWedgeworth18:45
ubottuDoctorWedgeworth: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org18:45
DoctorWedgeworthdidn't Ubuntu package this kernel? I expected I'd find more help here than there. Are there any workarounds to that bug that you're aware of?18:46
scavmartinanyone?18:46
QuintaessentiaHaving lot of troubles tryng to auto mount --bind an external usb HDD on every startup. The goal is to have some FTP directories fusionated inside one users chroot jail. I've tryed almost every howto on inet, from fstab to custom scripts and rc.local entrys too... no luck at all, anyone have some light, please?18:47
TJ-DoctorWedgeworth: Try http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=4720518:47
DoctorWedgeworthyeah I saw that, thanks TJ-. I'm waiting for mdraid to rebuild before I try a reboot but I'll give it a go. It's a desktop so I shouldn't have any problems with batteries :)18:47
QuintaessentiaSeems like the usb HDD is not ready on startup, and so it fails mounting and binding.18:48
TJ-DoctorWedgeworth: I've found that has been a quick and easy solution when my kit has been affected by that issue, some months ago now18:48
TJ-Quintaessentia: Maybe it needs some kernel-module loading early, from initrd? usbusb-storage or similar?18:49
QuintaessentiaI used some script on /init.d with no luck. Not used usuusb-storage18:52
TJ-Quintaessentia: usually you need to add the module name to "/etc/initramfs-tools/modules" and update the initrd and reboot18:55
TJ-Quintaessentia: *if* that is the reason. I'd suggest you read "/var/log/dmesg" to see when the USB drive is being recognised18:55
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QuintaessentiaThanks TJ, will look further on that.18:58
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KalelGreetings. I would like to know wich version of Netwwork Manager or Modem Manager for 3G is ubuntu 13.04 using. I have a problem. Later Updated my system, my 3g device isnt recognized.19:01
KalelI want to download the package and install it offline.19:02
rkrishnaHi, I am getting a error "unable to handle kernel paging request" trying to install a video capture card, any ideas>19:03
KalelDr_Willis: Can you help me today, Dr.?19:04
jhutchinsrkrishna: Are you low on RAM?  Is there a problem with your swap partition?19:07
jhutchinsrkrishna: Are you trying to install a package from the manufacturer that supports the card?19:08
jhutchinsKalel: dpkg -l network-manager should show you what version it is.19:08
farbodاه19:09
farbodhi19:09
jhutchinsKalel: I may have the exact package name wrong.19:09
farbodmy laptop get hot!!!!19:09
farbodwhat can i do?19:09
farbodim new in ubuntu19:09
farbodi use before windows 819:09
jhutchinsfarbod: Do you have the power manager applet?19:09
farbodwhat is it?19:10
jhutchinsfarbod: Probably a battery-like icon near the clock.19:10
MosecoI am running Ubuntu 13.04, i installed the latest update and i rebooted, when i entered my password and logged in i only see a black screen and my cursor. Any fixes?19:11
Kaleljhutchins: Are you using ubuntu 13.04?19:11
jhutchinsfarbod: This might help: http://itsfoss.com/solve-overheating-issue-battery-life-ubuntu-1304/19:11
RoryMoseco: Reboot, and hold Shift while your system starts, until you see the boot menu. Select an older version of the kernel from the list and see if that boots. Let me know if it does19:12
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MosecoRory: Ok19:12
jhutchinsKalel: Looks like I'm still on 12.04.19:12
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Kaleljhutchins: Can you give the package name? I want to download but I am in a 12.04 lts Live CD. i think isnt the relative version.19:13
Kalelnetwork-manage 0.9.4.0-0ubunt network managemen19:13
onefix_workso, if I put iwconfig ... sleep 3 ... wpa_supplicant ... sleep 3 ... dhclient in /etc/rc.local, wireless works, but if I try putting it in /etc/network/interfaces, it doesn't.  Is this normal?19:14
nikolaiHello19:14
ikoniaonefix_work: interfaces file is not a script so won't respond to "sleep"19:14
jhutchinsKalel: You're missing a letter there, but yes, that's it. I hvae 0.9.4.0-ubuntu4.319:14
zykotick9onefix_work: adding to ikonia's above statement, dhclient doesn't belong in /etc/network/interfaces either...  care to share what you tried in /e/n/interfaces?19:16
onefix_workikonia: I know that. I'm putting it in the proper /etc/network/interfaces format including wpa_supplicant in the pre script19:16
ikoniaonefix_work: putting it in the interfaces file, does put the required pauses in the services,19:16
jhutchins!interfaces19:16
onefix_workauto wlan019:17
onefix_workiface wlan0 inet dhcp19:17
onefix_work    wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf19:17
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onefix_workI know the difference in the interfaces file, but like I said, it's not working...19:17
jhutchinsonefix_work: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo19:18
ikoniaonefix_work: yes, and I've explained why19:19
zykotick9onefix_work: i've only used wpa-ssid and wpa-psk in my interfaces... I didn't know about wpa-conf19:19
ikoniaonefix_work: the interfaces file will not put a pause in the service if it needs one, it will just configure them as the init script runs them, if one of them needs a pause because it's slow confiugring, you'll need to put that into the init script19:19
* vlt loves inotify19:19
onefix_workToo bad Ubuntu doesn't have a command line (curses) configuration tool like RHEL/Centos...19:20
ikoniawhy ? what would that do to help ?19:20
zykotick9onefix_work: i agree, about the curses config tool missing19:21
jhutchinsI think he wants something that will warn about bad syntax or something.19:21
ikoniawhy do you think it's the interfaces file ?19:21
onefix_workikonia: Well, I see that linked article is talking about 6.10 ... I'm guessing since it's not been updated that it's still good, but the command line tools provided by RHEL / Centos makes hardware config real easy/19:21
jhutchinsWTF is wrong with vi?19:22
ikoniayou've shown the config is right, it's probably just one of the services starting to quick so the card is not ready to be configured19:22
ikonia!wtf> jhutchins19:22
ubottujhutchins, please see my private message19:22
Kaleljhutchins: Thank you.19:22
onefix_workikonia: Is there any way to tell the config to wait at all?19:22
blazeme8Hi, I'm following this guide as part of installing alsa (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules) but when I run the install command I get: "E: Unable to locate package linux-alsa-driver-modules-3.8.0-19-generic". How can I fix this?19:23
jhutchinsikonia: Sorry, didn't know the standards.19:23
ikoniaonefix_work: no, as I said earlier, you'll need to put sleeps in the init script to see if that fixes it, then remove them one at a time to find out which script needs the sleep19:23
* jhutchins is in a decidedly uncivil mood today and should probably go read a book.19:23
ikoniaonefix_work: if that doesn't fix it, you move into the next stage of debugging19:23
onefix_workikonia: Oh, ok.  Thanks19:23
narcosHi all. I'd like to export a single GUI program from my Ubuntu via a web browser. e.g. the solitaire binary via a browser from another machine. Is this possible?19:23
Kalelikonia: Sre you a regular ubuntu user?19:24
onefix_workikonia: Like I said, my manual rc.local script works.  I just had problems with /etc/network/interfaces...that's kind of where my debugging went to begin with :)19:24
bpromptnarcos:    send a binary to someone else through the browser?19:24
ikoniaonefix_work: yes, and you've approached it well,19:25
narcosbprompt: Rather, some kind of RDP/VNC setup19:25
narcosBut just for a single program, not the whole desktop19:25
narcosand via the browser, not a thick client19:25
narcosBRB19:26
springwaterWould it be possible with a program or alteration batch type to be able to make non primary monitors "2 of them" to go blank? IE if im watching a video on primary monitor and not using the other 2. Some times I am away from the pc a distance and not at the desk to manually turn them off.19:26
springwaterI have tried googling this query with no results19:27
blazeme8Does anyone know of a guide for installing alsa on ubuntu server19:28
ikoniablazeme8: open the package manager, search for alsa, install package19:28
blazeme8i have the alsa package installed. but it doesn't work19:28
ikoniaspringwater: look at setting dpms on / off,19:29
ikoniablazeme8: define "doesn't work"19:29
springwaterwill that turn off all monitors or give me the ability to blank or disable specific ones19:29
blazeme8ikonia: no sound, cannot adjust levels in alsamixer19:29
ikoniaspringwater: dpms is per monitor, so you should be able to do it per monitor19:30
ikoniablazeme8: is there a device file for the sound card ?19:30
blazeme8ikonia: /dev/snd/seq and /dev/snd/timer? and the sound device shows up in lspci.19:30
ikoniablazeme8: is alsa-mixer looking at those devices ?19:30
bpromptblazeme8:   what' s the original issue you'd be seeking to install alsa for?19:31
zykotick9blazeme8: seeing anything in "cat /proc/asound/cards"?19:31
zolliexcuseme for bad english...  help...  can someone help me?19:31
zolliThe problem is a green screen showed when playing video...19:31
blazeme8 /proc/asound doesn't exist, and I can't even open alsamixer19:31
blazeme8The error for alsamixer is: cannot open mixer: No such file or directory19:31
ikoniablazeme8: what happens when you try to open alsa-mixer ?19:31
springwaterwould it per say sleep the other monitors if a mouse does not breach their space?19:31
ikoniablazeme8: do you have it installed ?19:31
blazeme8ikonia: alsamixer? yes19:32
blazeme8which alsamixer reports where it is19:32
ikoniablazeme8: so you need to look at what device file it's trying to access19:32
bpromptzolli:     more info like, what you were doing before this happened would help19:32
ikoniaspringwater: you'd have to check the dpms spec, I don't know without looking myself19:32
blazeme8ikonia: how do I do that?19:32
ikoniablazeme8: look at the config file ?19:33
zolliok, bprompt, i have detail... ...19:33
blazeme8Where is it?19:33
ikoniablazeme8: etc somewhere19:33
HathadarI am looking at a script on vim.org where it lists a url for a repository.  Can I use this with apt-get?19:33
zolli-totem work fine19:33
zolli-VLC work fine, but in vlc is necessary set video option like this  http://zolli.altervista.org/tmp/3.png  or default but whith no acceleration19:33
zolli-kdenlive work fine, but is necessary set video option like this: http://zolli.altervista.org/tmp/4.png  (work also X11 ) i have installed UBUNTU 13.04 64 bit from 24h, no manual setting on library or other.19:33
ikoniaHathadar: depends on what's in the repository19:34
ikoniaHathadar: I have no idea why you need a repository from vim.org though19:34
ikoniaHathadar: vim is available in the standard ubuntu repos19:34
blazeme8ikonia: the only alsa config I have is /etc/default/alsa19:34
zolliopenshot--->green box on video19:34
Hathadarikonia, I am looking for scripts to install for vim.19:34
blazeme8Which only has stuff about loading modules, not which device alsa is looking for.19:34
bpromptspringwater:    https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_Power_Management_Signaling#Turn_off_screen_immediately19:34
ikoniaHathadar: open the package manager, and install vim19:34
ikoniaHathadar: vim is available in the ubuntu repos, you don't need external sources19:34
blazeme8alsa19:34
blazeme8oops19:35
zykotick9blazeme8: if you don't have /proc/asound i'm guessing ALSA is either A) not installed or B) you have rebooted your system...19:35
Hathadarikonia, I have vim.  I am looking at scripts for it.19:35
ikoniascripts for vim ? it's a text editor19:35
zykotick9blazeme8: s/you have/you haven't/19:35
blazeme8zykotick9: i ran 'apt-get install alsa alsa-tools alsa-mixer' and rebooted.19:35
Jordan_Uikonia: There are various vim scripts for performing certain tasks.19:36
ikoniayou mean macros19:36
zykotick9blazeme8: is alsa-base currently installed?  "apt-cache policy alsa-base"19:36
springwaterthe thing im trying to get is a way by me doing a hotkey or auto sleep on other monitors and leave the primary monitor on ie whjen im watching a tv show19:36
blazeme8zykotick9: yep, i have: 1.0.25+dfsg-0ubuntu419:36
zykotick9blazeme8: have you rebooted since all these installs?19:37
blazeme8yes, several times zykotick919:37
zykotick9blazeme8: ok, just checkin'19:37
blazeme8I think I need the kernel module(s) for sound. The guide I linked initially is about installing those.19:37
blazeme8But that guide is broken.19:37
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sqrt_greetings .. uhm can anyone tell me what kind of pipe this is? "sudo tee /sys/block/sdX/queue/scheduler <<< noop"19:38
zykotick9blazeme8: does "lsmod | grep snd" return a list of stuff?19:38
springwaterfor a better explenation of what im trying to get is. in windows what im on now there is a multi monitor software that has ability to make 1 or more monitor turn to screen saver / blank by a hot hey in my situation i picked control s19:38
blazeme8zykotick9: no, nothing. i dont have the module19:38
zykotick9blazeme8: are you on ubuntu-server?  if so, you might want to ask how to get sound working in #ubuntu-server ???  best of luck regardless.19:39
blazeme8Yeah, I said that initially. I didn't know there was a channel for each version.19:40
springwatermaybe putting a bash file on each of the 2 monitors when i click the they turn off monitor19:41
springwaterbut how would i reenable them19:41
ikoniaspringwater: run the script from the "on" monitor to turn off the others19:42
ikoniaspringwater: and then run the turn on script from the "on" monitor to turn them back on19:42
AndChat465716ikonia: liar19:42
ikoniaAndChat465716: what ?19:42
springwaterwhich script exactly19:43
springwaterthe arch page someone posted19:43
ikoniaspringwater: the one I suggested you write to enable/disable dpms19:43
springwateroh that was a code19:43
springwateri thought you meant to search it in google19:43
springwatermy mistake19:43
zykotick9springwater: have you seen if xrandr has some option for that?  if you use nvidia/ati you may need to use there provided tool(s)?  good luck.19:44
springwateri tried that19:44
bpromptzolli:     anything you've done lately, do you only get the "green screen" in VLC or any player you use when doing playback?19:44
springwaterbut was able to only sleep all monitors19:44
ikoniaspringwater: dpms is a monitor option, that I suggested you set enable/disable on individual monitors to try to blank/unblank them19:44
springwateroh you mean in the actual monitor19:45
gregor3005hi, i use virtualbox 4.2.10 in ubuntu 13 and installed the usb extension but in an windows 7 vm there is no usb device available :-(19:45
zykotick9ikonia: i'm usually fighting to disable ALL dpms stuff.  funny to see it being used for good ;)19:45
ikoniazykotick9: agreed,19:45
HathadarHow do I merge folders from a .zip onto my harddrive?  the default archive manager has checkboxes for re-create folders and overwrite existing files which give the impression my folders will be replaced and not merged.19:46
wilee-nileegregor3005: you set up the usb in  box preferences as well?19:47
zollibprompt: only geen box if i don't set option for video output...  please see my ifnormation on https://answers.launchpad.net/openshot/+question/236604  (all detail....)19:47
gregor3005wilee-nilee: yes i enabled it19:47
wilee-nileegregor3005: you in the vbox group?19:48
gregor3005wilee-nilee: ah i check it19:48
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springwateronly one of the 2 have a sleep but its lowest is 30 minutes19:49
jluchello19:49
wilee-nileegregor3005: here is a link if needed. https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4952919:49
lalala2354 /join #cdelu19:49
gregor3005wilee-nilee: thanks19:50
wilee-nileeNo problem19:50
bpromptzolli:    right... my "video output" uses "default" .... and videos play fine for me .... can't say I've bothered with other video output drivers unless I really have to19:54
zykotick9zolli: so, is the default video output (with the green screen) called xv?  bprompt19:54
bpromptzykotick9:    http://zolli.altervista.org/tmp/3.png   <-- that's zolli 's settings19:55
zykotick9bprompt: i've already looked at that, issue one it's not english and issue two it doesn't answer my question (you have non-default config there)19:56
econdudeawesomeHowdy. Looking to figure out how to replicate some Nautilus behavior in the command line. Using Nautilus I can connect to a remote server via SSH then launch a text file into any text editor I want. Say my file is called text.py. What CLI command could I use to launch sublime-text to open the file on a remote server?19:57
* zykotick9 likes mplayer's -vo options, list all with "mplayer -vo help"19:57
econdudeawesomeNote: sublime-text is not installed remotely, and Im not using ssh -x19:57
zollibprompt: on VLC "default output with "accelerated" flag make green video, if i set other option (like X11) is OK; OK if i deselect accelerated...  but TOTEM is always OK, opneshot is always green...19:58
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zykotick9econdudeawesome: i'd personally A) use a console text editor or B) scp the file back to the local system19:59
econdudeawesomezykotick9: sure, I can do that. But what I'd really like to know _how_ to do is replicate the nautilus behavior, if its not too complex on the backend19:59
econdudeawesomeeven if I'm using vim or nano on the host machine rather than the remote machine, it'd be nice to know *how* to launch it as such20:00
zykotick9econdudeawesome: i'd guess nautilus is using ssh as an sshfs of some sort, kinda difficult to replicate...20:00
no_gravityecondudeawesome: i would use sshfs20:00
econdudeawesomeno_gravity: oooh. This is the first I've heard of the utility. Thanks20:01
no_gravityzykotick9: not difficult. its just sshfs host:/ mount/point/20:01
bpromptzolli:   then... one can say is just the player, if totem works with such options, and you want them, so use Totem :)    why do you want the "OpenGL" drivers loaded anyway?20:01
econdudeawesomeno_gravity: I seem to have no man entry for sshfs. Is it: $ <text editor launch> sshfs host:/mount/point/stuff ?20:01
zykotick9no_gravity: well, that's PART of the puzzel.  now open it will a local application ;)  for bonus points - all in one step as econdudeawesome wants ;)20:02
econdudeawesomeno_gravity: huh, no sshfs installed yet, so I guess that's not what nautilus is doing20:02
no_gravityecondudeawesome: $ sshfs host:/ /mount/point/file.txt; texteditor /mount/point/file.txt20:02
Jordan_Uecondudeawesome: You need to install it. You can also access GNOME VFS Mounts made from nautilus in ~/.gvfs.20:02
no_gravityecondudeawesome: apt-get install sshfs20:02
no_gravityzykotick9: in one go: sshfs host:/ /mount/point/file.txt; texteditor /mount/point/file.txt20:02
wyldeecondudeawesome: I'm pretty sure nautilus uses gvfs to make an sshfs like mount in ~/.gvfs then opens the file locally20:03
econdudeawesomeJordan_U: good to know. no_gravity: installing as we speak. How does gvfs work then?20:03
econdudeawesomewylde: neat!20:03
Jordan_Uentangled|home: So after connecting to the server with Nautilus, "sublime-text ~/.gvfs/share_name/path/to/file.txt".20:03
zykotick9no_gravity: ;) ya i saw the origional.  i haven't used sshfs in forever, but i wasn't a big fan...  i use nfs locally so not really an issue for me...20:04
ravenHey guys. on 12.04 I see Ubuntu is using compiz to make the unity interface. In the window previews when you have more than one window open and it shows you tiles, is there a way to get labels on those? I've got no idea what they are until I click on them. Anything I can do in CCSM?20:04
zollibprompt: i want video editing....  openshot is simple. i think, for VLC, is not normal condition setting for work this options....20:04
econdudeawesomewylde: twist: no gvfs?20:05
no_gravityzykotick9: im using sshfs for years now every day on many servers. its fucking stable.20:05
IdleOneno need for the swearing20:05
wyldeecondudeawesome: it's hidden. Notice the .gvfs in /home/$USER20:05
econdudeawesomewylde: i should be able to see it at ls -a ~/ ?20:06
wyldeecondudeawesome: yes20:06
econdudeawesomewylde: fair enough. Nothing there, so not sure what protocol Nautilus is using20:06
econdudeawesome(I'm in ubuntu 12.10 built up from minimal, Nautilus is installed but usually run with --no-desktop, DE is xmonad)20:07
zykotick9econdudeawesome: do you have automounting of any sort?  usb drives and such?20:08
bpromptzolli:    yeap, I'd say that's pretty much it, the drivers or handling of those drivesr is a bit buggy20:08
zollibprompt:I must therefore give up openshot? there is a workaround for that?  :'(20:10
zykotick9zolli: fyi, many years ago - i had a similar problem.  and at the time there was some way to change the default gstreamer output so something that worked (so totem,openshot,etc) could work.  but i've LONG forgotten the details (and i'd doubt they'd still work)20:12
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econdudeawesomezykotick9: yes20:12
bpromptzolli:    well.... a workaround would be to .... say use Mplayer or some other player in this specific instance, then again, there are other video editors like Avidemux20:13
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econdudeawesomeno_gravity: how do I desclare a host?20:14
springwateri am quite fond of avidemux myself20:14
zykotick9econdudeawesome: ok, wasn't sure with the build up from mini you described ;)  i don't...20:14
zollizykotick9: i have tested gstreamer-properties...  but oneshot STILL green...20:14
zykotick9zolli: and you don't find any way to change oneshot's "video output"?  i don't use it myself.20:15
zollizykotick9: and test video is ok (how i have reported in post openshot)20:15
no_gravityecondudeawesome: desclare a host?20:15
springwaterout of curiosity, does anyone else in here have more than one monitor?20:15
zollibpromt: ok, but avidemux  is not for me, i like cinelerra but a GUI is TERRIBLE20:16
no_gravityspringwater: i own a couple20:16
springwaterall on your ubuntu?20:16
no_gravityspringwater: but only use one at a time20:16
springwaterah20:16
ArielX_did anyone read my question20:16
blackthorhello.  i'm having some trouble with a failed  mdraid.   2 disks (sda and sdb)  3 md raid partitions (md0, md1 and md2)   sda failed (failing disk).  after reboot, the machine does not boot up.   however, in network-recovery-OS,  i can still mount  sdb (and see that it is acting as a degrading raid) and all data is still on it.   any help on getting me to boot the machine back would be VERY20:17
blackthorVERY welcome !!  thx20:17
OerHeksArielX_, for what PPA ? that key comes up many times in google20:17
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no_gravityArielX_: it looke tile the output of some program20:17
zykotick9ArielX_: you're missing a key for a PPA you have...20:17
ArielX_where do i get the key20:18
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OerHeksArielX_, maybe there is no candidate for your ubuntu version, check the ppa page20:18
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zollibprompt: thanks anyway ... if you find something, please refer to my post openshot please. hello20:19
deluxe247can anyone help me with an mysql import. Basically I have all the databases dumpled to an sql.gz file and need to import them. however the databases have not been created and I get an error regarding it. I have 409 databases and do not want to create them by hand. How can I have mysql create the database if it is not there20:19
no_gravitydeluxe247: #mysql20:19
dtcrshrhello everyone, for some reason the graphic screen stopped loading, and turning the pc it locks on some IRQ messages. I can go to other terminals though, and trying to restart lightdm does nothing, besides pointing me to the f7 tty when issuing the command20:20
dtcrshrIv tryed dpkg-reconfigure lightdm, but didnt work20:20
blackthori'm afraid my grub was only installed to /dev/sda  and not to /dev/sdb20:20
dtcrshrI just made a regular update / upgrade20:20
dtcrshrtryed also on grub sellecting older kernels with no juice20:20
Hundredis jitsi in the Ubuntu repos?20:21
bekks!info jitsi20:22
ubottuPackage jitsi does not exist in raring20:22
MonkeyDust!!find jitsi20:22
MonkeyDust!find jitsi20:22
ubottuPackage/file jitsi does not exist in raring20:22
Hundred!PPA jitsi20:23
MonkeyDustit's a VOIP thingy20:23
ejvdeluxe247: try this, http://dpaste.com/1401375/ *use at your own risk*, *this is unsupported by me or #ubuntu*; good luck.20:24
ejvdeluxe247: you'll see the guts of this thing are dumping new line dilineated list of databases, that you first import, then you can perform the second operation to iterate over the list and perform the mysqldump "import"20:25
ejvdeluxe247: works like a charm, edit to you heart's desire20:26
deluxe247ejv, thanks a lot. points in my the right direction. I'm guessing I could get the list of databases from a directory as well with some modification20:27
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ejvdeluxe247: i have to run right now, but if you still need help when i return, i can work on it with you, it's pretty straightforward tho20:28
Hundred!info linphone20:30
ubottulinphone (source: linphone): SIP softphone - graphical client. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.5.2-10 (raring), package size 75 kB, installed size 244 kB20:30
deluxe247ejv, will keep that in mind. I'll be in the office for another hour then I'll head home and take a smoke break to relax. Will reconvene at that point if no progress20:30
blackthormm help. non-booting mdraid. grub assistance... anyone ?20:30
MosecoI was running windows 7 and ubuntu 13.04. I switched to ubuntu 12.04 (deleted 13.04). I installed grub and when i try to select windows efi it says file not found.20:30
MosecoI tried using boot repair but it did not fix it (deafult settings anyway20:30
jokoonanybody knows how to make a macbook pro cooller ? it's at 65 celsius and I can't find any way to cool it20:31
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jokoon66 now :(20:32
wouzerjokoon,  maybe a cooling stand?20:32
jokoonthe fans are not RPM'ing enough20:32
designsokay so I just installed lamp for the first time(Newbie here). I would like to be able to create my php files and html files in the directory /var/www. I have noticed that the owner of the file is root. What should I do.20:32
designs?20:32
jokoonI meant as a software question20:32
wylde!info fancontrol20:33
ubottufancontrol (source: lm-sensors): utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:3.3.2-2ubuntu1 (raring), package size 20 kB, installed size 113 kB20:33
tgm4883jokoon, I don't know the answer to that, but I have the same problem. I didn't find anything searching20:33
designsi get permisson denied every time.20:33
jokoon sudo echo 2500 > /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/fan1_min20:34
jokoonI tried that, I got permission denied20:34
tgm4883jokoon, true, you would need to use tee, not echo20:34
tgm4883or switch to a root terminal first20:34
tgm4883jokoon, I'm guessing wylde's statement of fancontrol was directed at you. I've not tried that20:35
zykotick9designs: "i believe" you can add your user to the www-data group ( sudo adduser YOURUSER www-data ) [log out and back in] will give you write permission to /var/www  BUT!!! i could be wrong...20:35
jokoontgm4883, yes I already have it isntalled, that's how I can know the temps20:36
jokoontgm4883, do I need to reboot after setting the min temp ?20:36
tgm4883jokoon, not sure. That might be reset on boot20:37
tgm4883jokoon, where did you get that command from?20:37
p1l0tdesigns: zykotick9: Yes www-data is generally the PHP user by default but you can also just allow guest to read and execute 755.. just set the <directory> permissions in httpd.conf for apache220:38
jokoonhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1645913&p=10246215#post1024621520:38
OerHeksjokoon, see the mactel pages, there is a PPA with fancontrol for mac20:38
zykotick9p1l0t: 755 is a bad idea for /var/www IMO20:38
OerHeksjokoon, https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa20:39
p1l0tzykotick9: maybe20:39
tgm4883jokoon, not sure. I wouldn't do that unless it was for the same model of macbook i have20:39
zykotick9!wfm > p1l0t20:39
ubottup1l0t, please see my private message20:39
jokoontgm4883, it was at 2000, I set at 250020:39
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tgm4883OerHeks, is there any documentation to go with that PPA? I'd like to try it if I knew what was in there20:40
jokoonOerHeks, alraedy added, which should i install ?20:40
jokoonOerHeks, I tried fancontrol, says can't read config file20:41
wyldejokoon: did you configure it with pwmcontrol?20:41
jokoonwylde, no I don't think so20:42
jokoonwylde, should I try it ?20:42
wyldejokoon: then there's the problem ;)20:42
tgm4883wylde, does that work for more than just macbooks? I have a macbook that overheats when I play minecraft, but so does my dell laptop20:42
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jokoonwylde, so yes I should then ?20:43
wyldetgm4883: It works on this old Acer laptop, another old desktop and few other systems I've used it on. I can't say for sure if it will work on all20:43
jokoonwylde, I got /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed20:44
tgm4883wylde, I know it might not work, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't specific to like 2 brands of laptops.20:44
OerHeksdepends on your model https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages#Mactel_Community_Documentation20:44
MosecoI have windows 7 on a drive and ubuntu 12.04 on another drive. When grub starts on boot up selecting windows results in an error saing: file not found20:44
tgm4883wylde, my first laptop had i8kutils that was specific to certain dell inspiron models20:45
MosecoAny help would be appreciated20:45
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ArielX_W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40C18E9EC07EE05F20:45
ArielX_E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)20:45
ArielX_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?20:45
wylde!paste | ArielX_20:45
ubottuArielX_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:45
tomattohi20:45
ahalversonArielX_, are you using a different package management utility at the same time?20:46
k1lArielX_: how often do we need to tell you to use a pasteservice?20:46
k1l!paste > ArielX_20:46
ubottuArielX_, please see my private message20:46
tomattohow can i download vmware-view-client amd64?20:46
tgm4883ArielX_, you probably didn't add the PPA correctly, and also you need to run that with sudo (or have something else open)20:46
ArielX_nope i closed synapic and tried again and got same error20:46
tgm4883tomatto, isn't it in the repos?20:46
jokoonOerHeks, ok so what should I try then ?20:46
tomattotgm4883: it downloads only 32bit version20:46
ahalversonArielX_, are you using sudo?20:47
tgm4883tomatto, is there a special 64-bit client?20:47
tgm4883tomatto, I've used it on my 64-bit desktop20:47
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tomattotgm4883: i hope so, because 32bit version can't be executed20:47
tgm4883tomatto, are you talking about vmware-view-open-client  or something else?20:47
tgm4883!info vmware-view-open-client20:47
ubottuvmware-view-open-client (source: vmware-view-open-client): VMware View Open Client. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.5.0-297975+dfsg-4build1 (raring), package size 502 kB, installed size 1433 kB (Only available for amd64; i386)20:47
tgm4883tomatto, looks like it's got a 64-bit client20:48
tomattotgm4883: i don't want open client20:48
ArielX_yes20:48
tgm4883tomatto, oh, then IDK20:48
tomattoidk?20:48
tgm4883tomatto, what is different in the closed source client?20:48
tomattotgm4883: new version20:48
ahalversonArielX_, is that the only user on the computer?20:48
tgm4883tomatto, ah20:48
ArielX_yes i removed root and rebooted then granted my user root priviledges20:49
tgm4883tomatto, there is a 64-bit client available from vmware20:49
tgm4883tomatto, https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/info/slug/desktop_end_user_computing/vmware_horizon_view_clients/2_020:49
ahalversonArielX_, removed root?20:49
ahalversonArielX_, you had root enabled by default?20:50
ArielX_lol20:50
ArielX_disabled20:50
ArielX_sudo passwd -dl root20:50
martianI accidentally deleted my /etc/apache directory. Is there a way to reinstall the package in a manner which would rebuild the config dir? I've tried purging and installing again but it doesn't rebuild that directory.20:50
jokoon65 degrees celsius :(20:50
tomattotgm4883: and pcoip support. it is not available in open client20:51
ArielX_im on precise 12.04 lts20:51
tgm4883tomatto, well the closed source version should have that20:51
jokoontgm4883, did you manage to make your macbook cooler ? btw do you know how to disable the touchpad while typing ?20:51
ahalversonArielX_, alright, try "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock &&  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock"20:52
ArielX_so root isnt default. i enabled and now I disabled then rebootedbefore doing the update/upgrade thing but insead having errors so I freenabled the root account20:52
tomattotgm4883: yes, it has20:52
tgm4883jokoon, IDK, my macbook is at home so I can't test this now20:52
p1l0tzykotick9: Yes I guess the permissions don't have to be that permissive I just tested it out. Your right just cause I don't care if others can read/execute what is in there doesn't mean it's the best practice.20:52
tgm4883tomatto, so grab the closed source client from vmware then20:52
ahalversonArielX_, you probably left it in a locked state20:52
tgm4883tomatto, they have 32 and 64 bit versions available for download20:52
ArielX_o really?20:52
* p1l0t you're YOU ARE.. hehe20:53
ahalversonArielX_, i'm pretty sure that there is a file that apt- reads every time it starts that says if its on or not20:54
tomattotgm4883: it wants to open apt://vmware-view-client:i38620:54
ArielX_didnty check20:54
mn3na3aguys, need help with i8kmon config file20:55
jokooncan't I filter and view package by repo ?20:55
jokoononly view package from a custom repo ?20:55
ArielX_bz@BENZINO:~$ sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock &&  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock20:55
ArielX_rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/lock': No such file or directory20:55
ArielX_bz@BENZINO:~$20:55
cavertI installed Lubuntu-desktop after my Ubuntu-desktop install. ~ Can I keep both desktops ? ~ If so will the Lubuntu show any performance lag with regular Ubuntu installed as well ?20:55
tgm4883tomatto, well, without reading the documentation, it would seem that they put it in the repo. And if you've installed it from the repo, and it still doesn't run, that maybe it's missing a dependency20:56
ahalversoncavert, yes, you can keep both. there will be no extra lag20:56
k1lcavert: you can keep both desktops and switch on login screen if you like. there will be no slowing down because of the other desktop installed.20:56
ahalversonArielX_, just try to use apt- again to make sure20:57
ahalversonsorry i keep typing "apt-", used to typing apt-get20:58
ahalversonArielX_, if that doesn't work, try "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock && dpkg --configure -a"20:59
somanIs there any way to find out tickrate in ubuntu?20:59
ahalversonsoman, you mean framerate?21:00
ArielX_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177257/21:01
Jables94Howdy do, everyone!21:01
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cavertahalverson: Thanks Still mucking around in the unity stuff in regular ubuntu, not up to speed on it yet. I assume I wound use only the "Lubuntu Software Center" for new software ? Correct ?21:01
somanahalverson: OS' global timer's tickrate21:02
Jables94I've just installed an ubuntu variant, "Pinguy". It's the first time I've ever used linux, and the first time I've ever used IRC!21:02
ahalversoncavert, you can actually use either one, but the lubuntu one is faster on older computers21:02
cavertahalverson: That is when I'm in the Lubuntu desktop.21:02
MosecoI have windows 7 and ubuntu 12.04 installed (on seperate drives) when i select windows 7 from grub it says file not found. Any help would be nice! Thanks!21:02
ArielX_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177257/21:02
cavertahalverson: ok Good to hear thx21:03
ahalversonsoman, oh, just sec21:03
zykotick9Jables94: too bad you're in the wrong spot :(  pinguy isn't supported in #ubuntu....21:03
Jables94I know I'm in the wrong channel for this sorta thing, but anyway it's nice to be here. Ta ta!21:03
ArielX_ahalverson21:03
cavertk1l: Thanks21:03
jokooncan't find macfanctld in the mactel ppa21:03
k1ljab416171: for ubuntu variant support please see the ubuntu variants channels /homepages21:03
Jables94Kool21:03
Jables94Bye!21:03
vusieJables94: welcome to the world of pain21:03
tomattotgm4883: in which app can i open apt://vmware-view-client:i386 ?21:04
testpil0t_Anyone in here recently set up nic-bonding on 12.04.3 and would care to help me with my setup? I just cant get it to work at all (not matter what i try...)21:04
ahalversonArielX_, yes21:04
ArielX_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177257/21:04
tgm4883tomatto, apt links open in the software center I thought21:04
tony_hi21:04
ahalversonArielX_, i saw21:04
ahalversonArielX_, do you know how to edit /etc/apt/sources.list21:04
vusiehi tony_21:04
tony_chat server?21:04
ArielX_yes21:04
k1lArielX_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127326/how-to-fix-missing-gpg-keys21:04
tony_wooow21:04
tony_i m italian21:05
zykotick9ahalverson: ".. do you know how to edit /etc/apt/sources.list" why?21:05
k1l!it | tony_21:05
ubottutony_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)21:05
ahalversonArielX_, take out the repo and see if it works then21:05
k1lArielX_: either try this or remove the dozents of PPAs you got. maybe some one is broken21:05
ArielX_how do i know the repo to remove21:06
zykotick9ahalverson: assuming you use ubuntu "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" just add a # before the repo(s) in question.21:06
ahalversonArielX_, could you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin for us?21:06
ArielX_sure21:07
ahalversonzykotick9, thanks21:07
k1lahalverson: PPAs are in /etc/apt/spurces.list.d/ from no on21:07
zykotick9ahalverson: lol ;)  sorry21:07
k1l*sources21:07
ArielX_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177275/21:07
ahalversonk1l, what do you mean21:08
k1lahalverson: PPAs are no more put into the sources.list but no are files in that folder. just make a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/" to see what i mean21:08
ahalversonk1l, so is the old way depreceated now?21:09
zykotick9k1l: in THIS case there actually are some...21:09
ahalversonArielX_, comment out the Kali-Linux tools lines21:10
k1lwell. there are kali linux PPA sources in it. that shouldnt be in there tbh21:10
ahalversonArielX_, put a "#" in front of them21:10
ArielX_okies21:10
ahalversonk1l, i 've always used the sources.list21:10
k1lahalverson: yes. its deprecated to put PPAs in there. PPAs get put in that new folder with add-apt-repository.21:10
ahalversonk1l, ill check it out21:11
k1lahalverson: sometimes things change :)21:11
k1l!ppa21:11
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge21:11
zykotick9!addppa21:11
ubottuSince Ubuntu 9.10, a !ppa can be added using a single command «  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details21:11
zykotick9k1l: see above ;)21:11
tgm4883k1l, a slight correction. That isn't just for PPAs, but for any extra repos21:11
k1lah, zykotick9 got the direct factoid :)21:11
emptyhello guyz, can anyone tell me hot to install flags on keyboard layout? Linux Ubuntu 13.0421:12
ahalversonk1l, neat, been using ubuntu since 11.10, never heard about that21:12
ahalverson:D21:12
blackthorneed some help with broken mdraid and grub, please.21:12
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ahalversonempty, flags?21:13
justanotheruserI am using nm-applet to connect to a VPN. Everytime I try to connect I get the error "The VPN connection 'connection name' failed because the attempt timed out"21:14
ArielX_same erroe21:14
ArielX_Fetched 2,131 kB in 1min 51s (19.2 kB/s)21:14
ArielX_Reading package lists... Done21:14
ArielX_W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40C18E9EC07EE05F21:14
Quantumpantshi guys, any idea why vls is not working on my puter?21:14
k1lArielX_: did you see my link to askubuntu?21:14
zykotick9ArielX_: there is some manual way to add the 40C18E9EC07EE05F public key... but i don't have it offhand21:15
blackthorperhaps this might help: ArielX_ ? (don't know) : https://launchpad.net/+help-soyuz/ppa-sources-list.html21:16
ahalversonk1l, so how exactly do you put ppas in sources.list.d?21:16
zykotick9!addppa | ahalverson use this21:17
ubottuahalverson use this: Since Ubuntu 9.10, a !ppa can be added using a single command «  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details21:17
ahalverson_lol crash21:18
zykotick9ahalverson_: but realize that adding/using PPA voids your #ubuntu warranty ;)21:18
ahalverson_zykotick9, there is no warranty21:19
zykotick9!ppa | ahalverson_21:19
ubottuahalverson_: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge21:19
ahalverson_unless you have a support contract21:19
zykotick9ahalverson_: read WARNING above21:19
k1lahalverson: "waranty"21:19
k1lahalverson: we dont support the PPAs in here. in case it breaks stuff please see the maintainer from that PPA21:20
ahalverson_zykotick9, there is no warranty to void21:20
k1lahalverson: see my last 2 posts21:21
zykotick9ahalverson_: when you have problems, just don't bring them here - it'll be unsupported.  you tell me...21:21
ahalversonzykotick9, i have no problems21:21
bpromptahalverson_:      is just a way from say canonical to let you know that, you're taking it upon yourself, and that's ok, but don't hold them responsible for what they informed you about21:21
k1lahalverson: a broken hardware waranty is fine, too. as long as the hardware doesnt break :)21:22
ahalversonbprompt, i understand, but i didnt come asking about a crashed program from a ppa21:22
bpromptahalverson:  then you21:23
bpromptahalverson:  then you're fine :)21:23
k1lahalverson: it was just a hint. just a added explaining to the PPA topic. no need to make a drama out of it21:23
ahalversonk1l, ok21:23
tomattowhere is located deb files?21:23
k1ltomatto: can you rephrase?21:24
ahalversontomatto, i think /var/cache/dpkg/something21:24
bpromptahalverson:    noone is prosecuting you or anything, is just a friendly remainder, and to let the proper PPA author know21:24
zykotick9tomatto: check /var/cache/apt/archives/21:24
zykotick9ahalverson: close ;)21:24
ahalverson_shoot21:24
ahalverson_when is the release date of 13.1021:25
k1l!saucy21:25
ubottuUbuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. Release date will be 17th October 2013.21:25
TaLa-anyone know how to increse the limit 1024 connection to unlimit !?21:26
tomattozykotick9: that's it ;)21:26
ahalversonyay21:26
ahalversondont know about anyone else, but im excited about mir21:27
k1lahalverson: for general chatting we have #ubuntu-offtopic to keep this channel strict for support :)21:27
zykotick9ahalverson: please make offtopic comments to #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss - #ubuntu is support only21:27
ahalversonk1l, allright thanks21:27
bpromptsaucy salamander?    that sounds like some main dish, though I'm not a lizards consumer21:28
ahalversonlol21:28
zykotick9bprompt: please see above21:28
wilee-nileebetter the salamander sauce21:28
wilee-nileethan*21:28
BluesKajsounds yukky21:28
wilee-nileepure protein, hehe21:29
updTaLa-, check ulimit21:30
TaLa-# ulimit21:30
TaLa-unlimited21:30
zykotick9TaLa-: why are you root?21:31
TaLa-well its not unlimited...21:31
bpromptyes sir, we have your saucy salamander, it comes with garlic bread and sliced avocados, and may I offer you a bottle of 1920's wine?   /me ducks21:31
k1lbprompt: do we need to mute you? please put the offtopic into the offtopic channel.21:31
updTaLa-, ulimit -n 6553621:31
TaLa-# ulimit -n 6553621:32
TaLa-shold work now ?21:32
updtest it21:32
TaLa-sholdt*21:32
TaLa-hmm without give a restart ?21:32
updi think yes, but the question is why you want unlimit21:32
TaLa-to test something21:33
TaLa-anyway.. not woriking21:33
TaLa-working*21:33
updyes probablly you need to restart and also there is more things to do http://posidev.com/blog/2009/06/04/set-ulimit-parameters-on-ubuntu/21:34
zykotick9!doesntwork | TaLa-21:34
ubottuTaLa-: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.21:34
ZyrooHi21:40
updHi.21:42
ZyrooI am having issues with intel 82579V + realtek dual nic setup only one working anyone having same problems lately21:42
Zyroo???21:42
Zyrooubuntu 13.04 64bit server21:43
jab416171k1l: ...what?21:44
k1ljab416171: sorry, wrong tabcomplete21:46
coesyshi21:46
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bpromptallo21:46
ubuntuwitam21:48
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rekhi,so...how can i display more stuff when i press tab in the terminal.... words that i can put in a text files for example...and when i need them i press tab to have them ....21:48
Guest4030Pozdr21:50
zykotick9rek: tab-completion is a bit complicated.  but i'm not sure what you're asking is possible.  can you clarify a bit?21:51
zykotick9rek: ok, on re-read, you want to have tab-completion read from a file you specify?  i've got no clue if that's possible, best of luck - it might be?21:52
Guest4030Halo...21:53
workmaster2ndoes /etc/environment not get read if you have UsePAM set to no for sshd?21:53
rekzykotick9: sure we should modify the behaviour of that feature i think.... i have a list of my personal emails...i want to press tab to display the emails when i begin to type the email21:53
rekyeah21:53
zykotick9rek: all i can say is, "good luck".  i have NO clue.21:53
rekbut...let's discover how linux knows he has.. mutt firefox irssi installed21:54
ahmed583egypt21:55
k1lrek: see documentation for the bash tabcompletion21:55
Zyroothernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C  and intel82579v Not working any clue????21:59
blueeyezAny1 know if theres a website to scan and see how well a computer is supported by Ubuntu?22:00
oz0neblueeyez: try it from a usbpen?22:01
blueeyezoz0ne that kinda dosent tell how well Ubuntu supports hardware, you often need to install Ubuntu to know how well it supports the hardware22:03
bpromptblueeyez:    yeah, just write the .iso to an usb stick and boot from it, log in the livesession and do a few checks on what loaded, what didn't22:03
blackthorhaving a failed mdraid 1.  replaced broken drive. i recreated 3 partitions on the empty drive, and managed to rebuild 2 out of 3 (one being swap and one being /boot partition)   i afterwards toggled the boot partition as "bootable" (so it's both bootable on sda2 and sdb2) but it appears the machine isn't still booting yet.  any ideas?22:03
zykotick9k1l: do you mind if i PM you a single message (no reply required)?22:03
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k1lzykotick9: sure, go ahead22:04
zykotick9oll in #ubuntu-discuss once (which pissed me off, idleone also made comments i didn't like).  but i just wanted to say "no hard feelings" (from my side).  I hope you can see, that "overall" i am a benefit to #ubuntu22:04
zykotick9still - even if I'm not 100% on the ubuntu/canonical train-of-thinking.22:04
zykotick9k1l: lol, sorry :(22:04
blueeyezbprompt looking for a newbie solution (Not for me, i run Ubuntu 13.04) but im wondering why this dosent exist since Ubuntu is developed for people with low linux knowledge (Compared to other linux distros)22:05
jab416171what's the harm in pushing the latest version of a package (for example, git) to all the still supported repos?22:05
bekksjab416171: The harm of breaking them all.22:06
jab416171bekks: care to elaborate?22:06
marcushi22:07
bekksjab416171: you would have to elaborate all dependencies in all repos, taking care of not breaking things, rebuilding deps, pushing them to the repos again, etc. - thats far too much work.22:07
jab416171bekks: all packages that depend on git?22:08
bekksjab416171: If you update git, yes. You would have to check all dependencies of all packages depending on git in all repos, etc.22:08
bpromptblueeyez:    well, to know exactly what works on what hardware, is an elusive enterprise without any testing the software on the actual system, I mean, hardware makers are diverse and they may diverge on this or that something of a peripheral, so, they stick to standards, but the accurate way to find out on support, is to actually test on the system in question22:08
jab416171bekks: could there be a case where a package has 0 dependencies?22:09
jab416171in which case, there wouldn't be any side effects to updating that package?22:09
bpromptallo marcus22:09
bekksjab416171: that would be the exception of the rule.22:09
jab416171so, really, the risk comes from packages that depend on the package in question22:10
bekksjab416171: No. The risk comes from the package itself breaking its dependencies.22:10
jab416171right22:10
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zykotick9!stable > jab41617122:14
ubottujab416171, please see my private message22:14
jab416171zykotick9: I understand the point of stability, but I guess I don't understand, for instance, why certain applications are updated and others aren't (like chrome and git, for instance)22:15
zykotick9jab416171: I CAN'T explain ubuntu's move to non-stable.  previously they followed debian's policies, now - not so much.22:16
k1ljab416171: chrome installs an own repo which updates the brwoser22:17
zykotick9k1l: BUT firefox in ubuntu repo, updates on a "new" policy22:17
k1ljab416171: and updates only come for bugfixes and security purposes. new versions most times only come with a new ubuntu release.22:17
jab416171k1l: I'm on 12.04 but I'm on the latest version of chrome22:18
zykotick9k1l: that's no longer true... see firefox.22:18
k1lthe browser is a security issue. so it gets updated since its too much effort to patch the old version instead of just going for the new version22:18
jab416171and yeah, firefox is another example that's up to date (or at most, a few weeks behind)22:18
Darkstar1hello all someone just installed php-fpm + fastcgi for me on my server few days back. Just tried testing it now witha simple phpinfo file and browsers just offer to download the php. been googling but so far nothing that helps22:18
Tal__Hey, I just rented my Ubuntu server from OVH and I am accessing it using X2GO. It wont let me download anything on it it keeps asking for a authentication password and none of my passwords are working22:19
zykotick9jab416171: i'd think chrome vs chromium might be a different story... fail to non-free software, like chrome.  good luck.22:20
Darkstar1could someone perhaps point me in the right direction?? assuming tthis is not off topic for this channel22:20
k1lzykotick9: jab416171 firefox used to stay longer on the releases and was patchable. but they changed the release schedule. so ubuntu had to change the old rule in there22:20
jab416171zykotick9: what do you mean?22:20
zykotick9k1l: debian still hasn't... which causes issue for ubuntu...  chrome vs firefox version number war is stupid...22:21
Tal__So can anyone help me?22:21
k1lTal__: some servers do have restrictions. did you ask the provider?22:22
Tal__Yes, i did they said that Ubuntu software is their software. Not theirs. I am just wondering how to download steam so i can host a few game server on it22:22
Tal__Once i try downloading it says to install purchased software i need authentication22:23
pentestLTSP Question22:23
k1lTal__: usually servers get managed through ssh access.22:23
pentestXubuntu 13.04 Host OS and LTSP server, 1 wifi card connected to Internet. Virtual Box installed with Thin Client Guest OS. Is it possible to have Thin Client boot-up with this LTSP server plz?22:23
jose__Hi, i got this error when try to install ubuntu-12.04.3-server-amd64 in virtualbox: "This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropiate for your PC". I am using xubuntu 12.04 and i have already activated intel VT in my BIOS.  suggestions? Thanks in advance22:24
Tal__Ermmm, what do you mean. I am completely a noob22:24
zykotick9jose__: you might want to try #vbox22:24
jose__zykotick9, thanks22:25
TJ-Tal__: "purchased software" ... that's the key phrase. If you're buying from the Ubuntu store, the packages also come with a digital certificate which is installed with the package manager (apt) so it can access the repositories to download the purchased software22:25
Tal__Yes, but it asks for a password. My password is working22:25
Tal__It rejects it22:25
k1lTal__: i dont know about x2go22:25
Tal__i am using x2go to manage my server. This is something within Ubuntu i believe22:26
TJ-Tal__: It sounds to me as if its not a server, its a desktop machine, since as I understand it, the X2go application is a terminal server22:27
TJ-Tal__: Or to be more specific, it has been configured as a desktop machine with a GUI. Servers rarely have X and a GUI installed since almost all server admin tools are command-line.22:28
Zyrooplease see this guyz http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177530/22:28
Tal__It is with GUI...all i am wanting to do is setup a ARMA server...I am utterly confused22:28
OerHeksZyroo, what is your issue? your paste shows both adapters get an IP22:31
Tal__:/22:32
TJ-Tal__:  You'll need to be more specific about the program you're using and the exact error messages it produces. Using a GUI makes that more difficult, which is why many prefer using the command-line programs from a text terminal22:33
ZyrooOerHeks:Its static setup not dhcp22:33
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TJ-Zyroo: Your description of the problem is unclear. Please be specific. What is not working?22:34
Zyroo OerHeks:ifdown em1 is not working also service networking restart em1 device always stays there22:34
Tal__Okay, so i got a Virtualisation server from OVH. I put Ubuntu on it. They told me to use x2go to access the server and manage it. I got on. I am trying to download steam from the ubuntu store. it says it needs a password. none of my passwords work....22:35
zykotick9Tal__: i'm REALLY not sure what steam will do for you on a VPS...22:37
TJ-Tal__: OK, for installation of packages the user account must be an admin account. If it is, when prompted for a password, enter that user's password. If the user isn't an admin, it won't work22:37
Tal__I am on the only account on the server.... and steam is needed for hosting a ARMA server22:37
Tal__.......22:37
TJ-Tal__: Try installing it from the command-line and see what messages you get22:38
zykotick9TJ-: keep in mind, a lot os VPS provides give a "root" password for there ubuntu installs :(22:38
ZyrooTJ: During the installation If i select em1 interface thats intel as primary ethernet it will work perfect but the other card hangs and wont restart,with service command or by ifdown . I tried many ways but still problem22:38
Tal__What would i need to type?22:38
zykotick9TJ-: s/a lot os/a lot of/22:39
TJ-zykotick9: Tal__ The issue is probably because to install steam the user must have an Ubuntu One account, and it is installed from a proprietary repository which needs an authentication key for apt to access it22:39
zykotick9TJ-: are you serious?  that's crazyness...22:39
TJ-Zyroo: Define "hangs"? Show us entries from the logs detailing the failure. We need specific information we're not telepathic22:40
k1lare you sure you need steam for managing a server?22:40
Tal__Well how do i fix this?22:40
TJ-zykotick9: That's the standard procedure for the proprietary packages22:40
zykotick9TJ-: i personally consider the fact that "ubuntu software center" can install software (purchased) that apt-get can't to be...  i don't have a word.22:41
TJ-Tal__: What are you using to install steam? The software-center GUI ?22:41
Tal__Yes22:41
ZyrooTJ:What should i provide you with22:41
TJ-zykotick9: It can get to it, but it has to provide a digital key. When you purchase software (or install £0 software) apt installs the key, and uses it to authorise itself with the archive HTTP server.22:42
TJ-Zyroo: If something is hanging presumably there are entries in "/var/log/dmesg" or "/var/log/kern.log" showing the problem.22:43
Tal__Alright, lets veer away from what I am downloading, Can you give me some steps to getting rid of this stupid authorization password. it appears on every download i attempt.22:43
TJ-Tal__: And you're giving Software Centre your Ubuntu One credentials?22:43
Tal__Yes22:43
Territoriojoveni wrote sudo restart lightdm and now i can't boot into lubuntu22:45
TJ-Tal__: So it says "processing" then a dialog pops up entitled "Authenticate" and it has list box showing the user(s) you can authenticate as, and an edit box for typing the password?22:46
Territoriojovenit stays in a black screen with some stuff saying OK and Stopped22:46
Tal__No, it just provides a password box and thats it. no options22:46
TJ-What version of Ubuntu have you installed into that virtual machine?22:47
sterkHi. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a laptop with a broken screen. I have a monitor connected via HDMI. Can i switch the installer to show on the second monitor? Right now the second monitor is all black, and the laptop screen has 0 visibility22:47
zykotick9TJ-: thanks.  but someone was in #ubuntu the other day with the opposite problem.  they purcahsed in in "ubuntu software center" and didn't see it in apt-cache search foo ?22:48
TJ-sterk: If the HDMI is detected, output should be cloned onto it22:48
Tal__TJ me?22:48
zykotick9s/in in/it in/22:49
TJ-zykotick9: They should, *after* the apt authentication keys are installed.22:49
CyberGabbersterk: Sometimes with pressing together kets [fn] and f4 , cycling trough internal/external22:49
sterkTJ-: Any idea what might br wrong if it isn't cloned? The monitor works fine with that laptop, so no problems with that22:49
wyldesterk: did you try the hardware keys? eg. Fn+F522:49
ArielX_thanks for the help22:49
sterkCyberGabber: I've tried that without any success22:49
zykotick9TJ-: ;) and that's something YOU could help with, but i certainly couldn't....22:49
sterkThe UNetbootin menu showed just fine (i'm using a usb stick), but as soon as it loaded Ubuntu, the screen went black22:50
Tal__Okay,so would it be easier to rent a Windows 2012 Server lisencse and host servers on that?22:51
Tal__This is confusing22:51
zykotick9sterk: 1) unetbootin (from windows) MAY have issues booting ubuntu AND 2) look into "nomodeset" boot option, "/msg ubottu nomodeset" for details22:52
Territoriojoven<Territoriojoven> i wrote sudo restart lightdm and now i can't boot into lubuntu22:52
sterkzykotick9: I head the ubuntu boot sound (drum thing), so i think it booted fine?22:53
sterkI have Windows running on it now (works fine with the monitor) so i suppose i could use Wubi22:53
sterkCan Wubi do a full wipe of the disk and install Ubuntu as the only OS, or only side by side with windows?22:54
zykotick9sterk: wubi = LOL22:54
k1lTal__: you mean arma2?22:54
Territoriojoveni could install ubuntu, xubuntu and lubuntu fine with wubi22:54
Tal__yes22:54
Tal__k1l: yes22:54
k1lTal__: i read that there are standalone servers22:54
wilee-nileesterk, neither it installs as a file in windows22:54
sterkIf i connected the monitor with VGA, instead of HDMI, could that help anything?22:55
TJ-zykotick9: when these packages are installed, a file such as "private-ppa.launchpad.net_commercial-ppa-uploaders_steam_ubuntu.list" is added to "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/" and the credentials are added to "/etc/apt/auth.conf" such as "machine private-ppa.launchpad.net/commercial-ppa-uploaders/steam/ubuntu login tj password somepasswordhere"22:55
wilee-nilee!nomodeset | sterk black screen solution22:56
ubottusterk black screen solution: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter22:56
k1lTal__: like on this howto: http://www.apollon-domain.co.uk/?p=221   steam is not even mentioned once on that howto.22:56
Tal__steam doesnt matter22:56
Tal__though22:56
Tal__What matter is i CANT download anything22:56
Tal__steam is irrelevant22:57
k1lTal__: connect through ssh and use wget to download the stuff. if there is an error show the error in here22:57
nanang_what's karnel ?22:57
Tal__how do i connect through ssh?22:57
Tal__:P noob22:57
Tal__me22:58
TJ-sterk: Sorry, missed your earlier reply. If you have access to an SSH session, try running "DISPLAY=:0.0 xrandr -q"22:58
wilee-nileesterk, Have you checked on a screen for the computer, might not be that expensive and worth the investment.22:58
k1lTal__: ssh user@ip22:59
TJ-Tal__: As I said earlier, if the user has admin rights, then the password of that user is being requested when you see the prompt for the password, when wanting to download/install a package22:59
wilee-nilee!ssh | Tal__22:59
ubottuTal__: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)22:59
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Tal__okay22:59
Tal__is SSH already on my server?22:59
Tal__since i cant download things23:00
zykotick9TJ-: if you use method outlined in <!addppa> i agree.  BUT PPA's are a bad idea IMO.23:00
k1lTal__: ssh is to connnect to your server23:00
TJ-Tal__: How are we supposed to know? It *isn't* a server if you've got ubuntu-desktop installed. It's just a remote desktop on a headless instance, which would suggest it would not have "openssh-server" installed.23:01
* TJ- thinks Tal_ is more than a little lost right now. We need to know which release and which flavour is installed. 23:02
ZyrooTJ:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177614/23:03
sterkConnecting it with VGA fixed my problems. Thanks for the help everyone23:03
TJ-Zyroo: Thanks. kern.log shows both interfaces are fine. ifconfig looks OK... pastebin "/etc/network/interfaces" please23:05
romarioOlá23:06
ZyrooTJ:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6177625/ here it is23:07
TJ-Zyroo: pastebin "ip route ls" ... it looks to me that because both interfaces are on the same sub-net, that the default root is using em123:09
crispyhexHey question. I need to install ubuntu on an old computer that has a CD drive NOT a DVD drive.  I downloaded the img.gz file for the netboot version of 12.10 so that I can actually fit the os on a CD.  How do I burn the img.gz file onto a CD? or do I just write the file onto the CD and try to boot from it??23:09
TJ`oh hai guize23:10
Taiiwocrispyhex: Try Unetbootin23:10
bekkscrispyhex: the netinstall iso fits on a cd.23:10
zykotick9TJ-: sorry, took me - WAY to long to "get on the trolley" on this one (simpsons reference).  ok, so when you install something from USC, it adds a PPA/with-key to people's sources.list (and/or sources.list.d)?  i think i gotcha.23:11
TaiiwoOh, yea. I didn't think about space...23:11
crispyhexis the netinstall an iso though??23:11
bekkscrispyhex: Thats what I just said.23:11
TJ-crispyhex: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD23:11
sterkwilee-nilee: It's an "old" worn out laptop that i occasionaly use as a media center, so if i get it to work on my TV, i'm happy :)23:11
ZyrooTJ: Actually i tried many ips finally i came up with same subnet before i was using different ranges coz i want to try this machine as a gateway. Every time i tried to restart one card   showing problems23:11
wilee-nileecrispyhex, Yes the net install is an iso23:11
wilee-nileesterk, Cool, may be tough it seems, good luck.23:12
TaiiwoZyroo: You might want to look at XMBC23:12
inahd_hey all23:12
crispyhexalright thank you, I didn't know about the minimalCD.  Thanks!23:12
ZyrooTaiiwo:Please could you tell me how?23:13
inahd_anyone know how to get bluetooth/wiimote working!?23:13
TJ-zykotick9: Yes, precisely. But I think Tal_'s problem is simply that the user's password is required (via gksudo etc) to install the package and for some reason the wrong one is being given23:13
zykotick9crispyhex: fyi, you can "cat, cp, dd" the mini.iso onto the root of a USB drive to make a working install USB.23:13
TaiiwoZyroo: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=XBMCbuntu23:13
TaiiwoThat's Ubuntu with XMBC preconfigured as a media center. There are install instructions and download links on that page.23:14
TJ-Zyroo: Have you tried using "ping -I p5p1 $IP_OF_ANOTHER_MACHINE" (the option is upper-case i, not a lower-case L!) ?23:14
ZyrooTaiwoo, TJ   let me check23:16
Territoriojovenwhat?23:16
ZyrooTJ: No ping23:17
TJ-Zyroo: It is possible the replies end up coming back through the em1 interface. You might want to use "tcpdump" to inspect traffic on the networks23:18
TJ-Zyroo: lets see the "ip route ls" output, without it, we're flying blind23:19
xmetalhmm i just noticed the distro I use + unity DE says "Ubuntu 13.04" in the System Info part ... i wonder (i am websearching now) what the "difference is" between that distro + Unity and Ubuntu23:19
ZyrooTJ i can understand sorry for the trouble could be the issue with router or some le me check packets23:20
TJ-Zyroo: Let's see the routes! they are the key23:20
k1lxmetal: what does "lsb_release -a" tell? (show in a pastebin)23:20
skinuxIs it a good idea to use Linux partitioning software for shrinking Windows partition to give Ubuntu more space?23:22
k1lskinux: you should consider to have a backup no matter which software you use to fiddle with partitions.23:22
k1lskinux: but i prefer to use the windows tool to shrink windows partitions. (some where in the hdd system settings in windows)23:23
xmetaldont see why not ... although i'd backup anything "critical first"23:23
xmetali have seen people knock Gparted (Linux based) but I have used it for years and never had an issue with it23:24
xmetaleven when editing windows NTFS partitions23:24
xmetallol when i partition even MS paritions, whatever I use always tends to be Linux based anyway23:24
skinuxMy problem with backing up is I have probably 120G used by software and files and I don't have enough discs for that.23:25
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k1lxmetal: i didnt say its not possible to use gparted for that task.23:25
ZyrooTJ: I cant give you complete info no problems man other ips are WAN ips inside a zone23:26
xmetaland i never said you did say that23:26
ZyrooTJ: sorry for the trouble23:27
xmetal either way can be an optiopn23:27
xmetaler option too23:27
xmetalfor the given more space to Ubuntu part I'd use gparted23:28
xmetalnot sure if (or if ... how well it works) MS partition "manager" handles Linux partitions23:28
acidulous--23:29
k1lxmetal: i am sure it doesnt handle linux paritions. i am just prefering to let windows handle their partitions23:30
xmetalah ... not that bad of an idea23:31
xmetalas i said I know people who have issues with gparted, though i have not had issues23:31
Territoriojovenhelp pls23:31
xmetalso letting MS handle that side of it, may be a good idea23:31
Territoriojovenso i tried to fix what happened and got into my ubuntu session or something23:31
Territoriojovenstartx gave me a black screen23:32
xmetal!ask23:32
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:32
Territoriojovenokay23:32
k1lTerritoriojoven: dont use startx.23:32
Territoriojovena friend told me to use it to fix it23:32
xmetalhmm lol the bot always lags whne i try to use it23:32
xmetalthere we go :)23:32
k1lstart the lightdm with (sudo service lightdm start)23:32
acidulousanyone know how i could boot ubuntu from a usb drive on windows 8?23:32
acidulousthis secure boot thing is stopping me :/23:32
Territoriojovenwell i ran weechat-curses23:33
k1lif it doesnt show the loginscreen see the logs why that is happening: ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/syslog23:33
Territoriojovenand now im in a full screen weechat with no command line23:33
zykotick9Territoriojoven: what graphics card?  "lspci | grep -i vga"23:33
Territoriojovennone23:33
Territoriojovenjust some integrated thing23:33
acidulous<acidulous> anyone know how i could boot ubuntu from a usb drive on windows 8?23:33
acidulous<acidulous> this secure boot thing is stopping me :/23:33
Territoriojovenhmhmm23:34
Territoriojovensudo service lightdm start sends me back to the black screen23:34
Territoriojovenwait a minute ill tell you what it says23:34
StarFloweracidulous, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI may help23:34
OerHeksacidulous, there is a manual for UEFI, works only with a 64 bit CPU23:34
Territoriojovenstarting the windbind daemon windbind, starting ntpd server ntpd and stopping server V runlevel compatibility23:35
skinuxTried BleachBit, recovered 600MB.23:35
skinuxI still don't think the disk should be anywhere near full, though.23:36
Territoriojoveni can use the command line, lightdm doesn't seems to work, what now?23:36
TimPlazHas anyome got flash player to work in Chrome or firefox in Ubuntu 12.04? Did a fresh install on a Compaq Presario S6300NX. Have yet to be able to view flash content as well as www.youtube.com videos.23:37
OerHeksTerritoriojoven, after starting, ctrl + alt + F7 to switch on desktop23:37
StarFlowerskinux, you may want to install and use filelight to see where the space is being used23:38
Territoriojoventhat sends me to the black screen with the above stuff23:38
zykotick9OerHeks: (i'd expect you to know this) but alt+f7 if they aren't currently in Xorg.23:38
StarFlowerTimPlaz, you should try installing hal23:40
TerritoriojovenIDK what happened23:40
Territoriojoveni was trying to disable the guest account23:40
Territoriojovenit worked on xubuntu23:41
k1lTerritoriojoven: its hard to help you without the logs and errormessages and what you did before23:44
acidulousdebian > ubuntu23:44
cavertIs there a GUI interface package that I can use to see whats running in the background? Or a terminal command? But not totally up to speed with Terminal. Thanks23:44
Territoriojoveni did sudo restart lightdm23:44
Territoriojovenand i dont know how to get the logs23:44
cavertRunning Lubuntu23:44
StarFlowercavert, system monitor23:44
zykotick9cavert: htop is handing in terminal/console23:45
k1lacidulous: stop that trolling in here. thanks23:45
zykotick9s/handing/handy/23:45
Territoriojovencurrently im switching from command line to weechat with alt + arrow keys23:45
aciduloushow is that trolling?23:45
cavertStarFlower: Thanks23:45
StarFlowercavert, your welcome23:45
cavertzykotick9: Thanks much.23:46
skinuxAccording to filelight 93% of my disk is used.23:46
Territoriojovenk1l: what do i do to get the logs?23:47
skinuxMaybe I will have to give Ubuntu more space from Windows.23:47
Territoriojovenskinux: how do you do that? mine has also ran out of space, I thought the 5gb installation was just for the os23:47
cavert1st time using a fresh install of Lubuntu. Must say very smooth, solid, an I'm loving it.........23:48
john__Hello23:48
john__I was wondering23:48
john__How do I install Gentoo?23:48
Territoriojovenlol23:48
skinuxShrink Windows partition and expand Ubuntu's, pretty much.23:48
LegendaryQjohn__: that'll be more effective at the arch linux channel23:48
john__will they help me install Gentoo?23:49
skinuxI think I'll have to shrink Windows, create a new partition, then merge Ubuntu's partition with the new one.23:49
LegendaryQProbably not, tbh23:49
Territoriojovenhmm23:49
Territoriojoven"lightdm start/running, process..."23:49
Territoriojoveni have that like 3 times23:50
Territoriojovenmaybe im running the lightdm but its not working somehow23:50
Territoriojovenkillall did nothing23:50
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Territoriojovensooo what can i do?23:53
cavertIs there a way to UN-encrpt my hard drive? ~ ~ I chose the option during install of Ubuntu 12.10 to "encrypt" my drive. - Have installed Lubuntu desktop and using that instead of Ubuntu.23:54
Bryce_debian > ubuntu?23:54
Territoriojoven...23:54
Bryce_debian > ubuntu?23:55
Territoriojovensooo what can i do?23:55
Territoriojovenis there anything fun i can do from command line?23:58
kampiyomm23:59
kampiyorun  cmatrix23:59
kampiyo;)23:59

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